Bigfoot Encounters in North Georgia: Tamra & Gabe’s Chilling Stories from Chattahoochee National Forest and Etowah River

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It didn't sound human, it didn't
sound like a beard. It almost sounded

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like almost like a primate. It's
just it's so hard to describe because it's

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not like anything I'd ever heard before, and it didn't sound like it sounded

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like it was definitely a language.
Welcome back to Bigfoot Society. In this

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episode, we welcome back Gabe and
his girlfriend Tamara, who share about bigfoot

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encounters they've had in northern Georgia.
What was the language that Tamarra heard that

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one day? And what was watching? Gabe and Tamera in their kayaks from

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the side of the Ottowah River find
out this and more on Bigfoot Society.

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Well, all right, let's let's
get her on then. All right,

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here she is. Hi there,
my name is Tamara, and right there.

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Um, So i've been I actually
gave in that group together in Indiana,

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but I moved to Georgia in two
thousand and one. He didn't move

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down to Georgia until twenty one,
so I've been here for quite a long

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time. I started hiking in twenty
nineteen, so I'm just hitting that five

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year anniversary of being a hiker.
Um I always hike alone. UM I

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hike by myself. I really enjoy
just being in nature, being out by

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myself, being alone. UM.
A lot of people just I really don't

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care what people think. There's different
opinions on it. But I do practice

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grounding. Other people call it earthing
um, where you physically just take your

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shoes in, your socks off and
you actually connect with the earth. I

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do that on every hike. UM. I'm I do this in water.

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If there's water, I'm getting in
the water. But I've been doing this

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alone. Up until Gabe came down
here. I've been hiking alone. So

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I've I've taken him back to trails
that I've been on before. And it's

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funny because I've never really I mean, I've i've heard just being in the

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North Georgia area. I mean there's
a big Foot museum up here, and

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I've I've heard, like other sightings, there's this there's that I just kind

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of thought, well, you know, I haven't actually seen it with my

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own eyes, so I don't I
don't believe, and I don't not believe,

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but I just I didn't really have
an opinion of it. UM.

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There was one particular trail that that
I was on UM and this is like

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he said, Um, I'll use
the all trails. App I'd like to

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go where there's no other people.
Um. I had made it all the

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way into this trail, it was
about a maybe four and a half five

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miles in. It was during the
summer, made it to the waterfall.

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I was I was coming on my
way back and I needed to just pretty

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much get off the trail and I
had to pee. So I looked and

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I'm like, Okay, there's a
boulder right there. I'm gonna get off

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this trail where to summertime, the
grass is almost knee high. Got off

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the trail maybe ten feet behind this
boulder, and we went to get back

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up, and all of a sudden, I was just afraid. I consider

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myself pretty fearless and brave. Nothing
nothing scares me. I'm not afraid to

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be in the woods at night.
I'm not afraid to be alone. You

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know, I grew up in the
country in Indiana. I used to sleep

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outside. I'm really not a paranoid
or I feel fearful person. So this

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particular day and it was funny.
It wasn't until a few years later talking

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to him about it. Um,
but I was just all of a sudden,

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just very disoriented. I couldn't think
straight. I was I was terrified,

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I was paranoid. I felt like
I didn't feel like I was lost,

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but I felt like something was trying
to get me, which is it's

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not my character. I'm very clear
headed, I'm a I'm a rational thinker.

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I could not find the trail and
I knew that there was this boulder

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and it was ten feet this way, and it probably took me twenty minutes

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to get back on this trail,
and my ears were ringing, and I

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was just very confused and my thoughts
were foggy, and I couldn't think straight,

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and I and I almost felt like
I was drugged. It was it's

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really a hard feeling to describe U
and just between being confused and being panicked

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at the same time. UM,
it just took me a very long time

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to get back on the trail,
and I just what got me there was

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like, go go back to where
you hear water because I had followed UM.

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I had followed a river going in
and I finally, um got back

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on it and just started running and
running and running, and I ran um

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for a good mile and I finally
started getting a more of a clear head

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on my way out, and I
was like, ah, you just got

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lost. You yet paranoid? You
went into kind of fight or flight mode.

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Um. Well, fast forward a
couple of years later, I take

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him back to the same trail and
I'm like, this is the trail that

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messed me up? And it is
you remember that one? Yeah, I

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will say this is um. I
can say this is pretty much a lot

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of this takes place up in the
Chattahoochiecone National Forest, which I don't know

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if you know this area, but
it spans a big part of the North

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Georgia. The Appalachian Trail is part
of it. So there's there's so many

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areas a hike. It's just a
vast forest system. I take him on

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this trail and as soon as we
get in there, he's like, Okay,

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look at this. And I remember
seeing these things but not thinking anything

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of it. Um. When we
say tree breaks and tree bends, we're

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talking you know, trees that are
broken. You've got one side of them

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mountain going up, and you think, Okay, if a storm came through

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and the wind blows, you would
think that a tree is going to fall,

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you know, towards down like towards
gravity, but they're broken in the

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other way, and some of them
are twisted. They're they're they're young trees,

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but they're they're bigger around than than
my arm or my calf, and

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they're really really high up, and
they're bent and twisted almost strategically, and

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some of them are bent down where
they're they're kind of twisted together and form

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a structure. And you're thinking,
Okay, my mind automatically goes to how

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could this have naturally happened? Like
could this tree have fallen and knock on

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this tree over? And so I
always try to just kind of ration it

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out and think, how could this
have naturally happened? And honestly, we've

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got so many pictures and video stuff
if it weren't for him coming down and

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explaining all this to me and showing
me this now, this is what I'm

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looking for them seeing a lot of
stuff that makes me question, you know,

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just question everything. And I've I've
found one of the footprints, I've

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found one of the handprints, I've
I've heard the noise is the story he

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was telling you about when we were
we had stopped in a creak and he

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was smoking his cigar. I actually
was in the water practicing grounding. It's

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kind of um, you just I
submerged myself in water. It's almost a

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form of meditation. And I could
hear those voices too, and I heard

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I heard, though I do remember
him hearing. He said, I heard

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the one and it just sounded kind
of this low rumbling growl. It didn't

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sound like words. It didn't sound
like I know what bears sound like.

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I've I've seen bears. I know
what Farrell hogs sound like. I haven't

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seen them. I didn't want to
see them. I've seen their tracks.

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And then I'll turn around and go
the other way. But I know what

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all the animals of these forests look
like. It sound like. Um,

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it didn't sound like any any animal
I've ever heard. And do you feel

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that there were two individuals talking to
each other or did it sound just like

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just one individual? You know there
were two? I yeah, there were

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multiple ones. Um. And it
was crazy because I'm sitting in the water

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and looking back. You think that
that would make me just really freak out.

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Um, I'm I'm hearing this and
and I was. I remember because

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I was kind of on a small
bart phone and I was kind of I

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think I was kind of laying on
my stomach because I was laying on my

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stomach, I was just letting the
water flow over me. And I stopped

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and I just looked at him,
and he's looking at me, and I

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could I could hear them, And
at first I thought, I can only

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hear this in my head, and
I wonder if you can hear this too,

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and he could. UM, And
I could hear from kind of from

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one side, kind of um chatter, and I would hear a voice from

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way on the other side. UM. It was a different voice. UM.

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It sounded like the same form of
communication. It same like like the

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same I don't want to use the
word animal, but the same thing.

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But it wasn't words that we're making
out. It's just it was just kind

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of an indistinct kind of chatter.
But the feeling that I got UM when

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I say, I could kind of
feel them in my head, which sounds

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really really weird. I know,
I know it sounds strange, but I'm

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just gonna just come out and say
it. I just I felt like they

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were just um, I didn't feel
like we were in danger. And I

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told him that, I told Gabe
that I said, I said, they're

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curious, um about me and what
I'm doing because I was, I was

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meditating, I was doing browning,
and I said, they were just they're

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just curious and they seemed kind of
surprised to me. That's I just I

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felt that feeling like I could almost
like pick up an emotion. Um.

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I don't know. It was just
a really weird experience. It's nothing I'd

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ever experienced before. But it wasn't
negative like where I was afraid and disoriented

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and confused, and it wasn't like
that at all. I felt like,

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Um, I wasn't in any harm, that I wasn't going to be harmed.

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Um, I felt like it was
okay. I just felt like they

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were like I kind of caught whoever
whoever it was, off guard and they

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were just very curious. So um, but still I'm like, you know

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what, I'm gonna get out of
this water and get dried off and just

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keep on keep on hiking up going, go on ahead and get on out

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of here. Um. So that
was that was one experienced and it was

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really interesting. It wasn't a negative
one. But that was last fall.

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Yeah, that was last fall.
A tamera. When you've been out hiking,

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have you experienced or heard any other
type of vocalizations or is that the

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main time that you actually heard something
when you were out there. This was

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the first vocalization that I had heard, and I try to be very quiet

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when I'm out and about. I
don't h with groups or many of the

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torsty crowded areas. But I had
never heard of vocalization before, so it

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was it was actually really cool to
hear it, and it almost it didn't

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sound human. It didn't sound like
a bear, It didn't sound it almost

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sounded like um, almost like a
primate. It's just it's so hard to

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describe because it's not like anything I
had ever heard before, and it didn't

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sound like it sounded like it was
definitely a language and not just a noise,

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you know. It sounded like a
like a foreign language. But it's

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just so hard to describe. It
sounded almost kind of um, if a

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primate like um, like a great
apri, a gorilla. We're talking almost

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similar. That's a that's the most
similar I could get. Um. It

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sounded a little more advanced, like
like like their voice was sound like if

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they were talking, but they were. They were lower in tone, and

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they projected farther away. But it
was hard because you've got the water rushing

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and then you've got the mountain up
and everything kind of bounces off. There's

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a lot of raw up in the
mountains, so it's it's hard to tell

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what direction it's coming from and how
far away it is. But it was

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it was very distinct. Um,
that's the only time i'd actually heard anything.

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Um. They they they tend to
several times if they we call,

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they get in my head. And
so now that when we hike, I'm

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like, I'm like the big foot
barometer, like a So everyone's looking at

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you. Is are you hearing anything? Yeah? I actually don't like it

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because it's not cool knowing it.
I don't know. It's when you have

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a good experience like that, when
you're getting a calming feeling like it's okay.

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They're just curious. And then then
when we got Chase, and that

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was, um weird because I had
actually kind of got off the trail and

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I was just chattering on about some
kind of flower that was blooming. I

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think I was like, look at
it, and then all of a sudden,

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I just felt like I was just
drugged again, and I felt disoriented

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and I felt sick, and all
of a sudden, I'm I'm like like

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low blood sugar or something. I
was like, I don't feel good.

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I almost I was starting to kind
of sway a little bit and lose my

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balance and I couldn't talk right,
and I'm like, I don't know,

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I don't feel so good. And
and then he, you know, kind

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of got a bad feeling and he's
like, we gotta get out of here

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now. And we got out of
there and he had to kind of drag

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me. And it's it's crazy because
it's something kind of takes over and you

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just kind of lose your sense of
direction and you lose your sense of control

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of of logically you're afraid, and
but you're a disorient and you're kind of

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stunned. Um, it's not it's
not a good feeling. I don't like

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being the I don't like being the
Canary's Um. I don't know if it's

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because of all the browning that I
practice. UM, stay tuned for more.

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Bigfoot Society will be right back after
these messages and trying to be as

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connected to the earth as possible.
UM, I'm kind of the environmental hippie

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girl. So I'm I tried to
stay very connected to mother Earth. Um,

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so nothing wrong with that for sure. Yeah, well that's who I

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am. But um there was another. There was a third time, wasn't

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there. I don't know. We've
been on so many hikes. It's kayaking

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on the kayak trip. Oh well, yeah, I forgot about that one.

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Um do you want to hear about
the yak I would love to hear

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whatever you guys have to share,
So go right ahead. Yeah, this

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one, this one was last summer, okay, were we were kayaking and

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uh, we come up to this
beach and she decided she wanted to get

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out and she wanted to swim a
little bit in the river. I was

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in the creek. It's the river. So she's on the other side of

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the river. Yeah, they had
and she's swimming just just chilling, just

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you know, just swimming, thinking
around whatever. And I'm sitting on the

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other side of the bank on the
beach, just killing and watch her.

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And she starts getting this weird feeling
and I look up and I see one

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pull its head back. Not I
not in the It was just like you

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see a tree and you steal a
lump move that was it like like a

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pe kaboo type thing. And then
that's when she started feeling her feeling that

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she gets and needless to say after
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river and we kept on going.
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kayak a lot too. I do
a lot of the river cleanups where I'm

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pulling tires out of the rivers.
I'm jumping in and out. I am

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not afraid to be in these rivers. Up in the mountains, I'm not.

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I'm always in them. And in
this particular river, I was like

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walking up the edge of the banks
as far as I could, and then

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I kind of jump in and just
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the current kind of take me.
And I go swim in past him and

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I'd be like, hey, come
on coming and swim and he just wasn't

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in the swim and I'm not afraid
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So I got I was getting close
to the banks, and all of a

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sudden, I was just afraid to
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I gotta get the hell out of
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looking at me like we gotta go, come on, and he's waving,

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I mean, he's like, get
out of there, come on, we

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gotta go. And I'm like,
yeah, I'm on it. And I

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started swimming, you know, against
the current as fast as I can,

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and I just all of a sudden
felt like something was wrong. That that

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same feeling that I got um when
I was on that hike by myself,

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that that just something was wrong and
I was just oriented again and I shouldn't

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have been there, and I just
I was afraid, and that's that's not

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like me. And I think in
that case, we you just got too

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close, and that I did because
it didn't happen until I got too close

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to that part of the part of
the banks. I don't know. And

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you know, it's the Edewall River
goes through a lot of parts of UM.

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There's some pretty dense forests that No, there's not hiking trails in there.

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UM, No one hikes in UM. We were we were on on

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that part as Dawson Forest, right. UM, there's not a lot of

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hiking in Dawston forests. And like
we were on that portion of the Ottawa

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um where you can be on the
Ottawa. But you really can't be on

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the Dawson Forest side. There's no
hiking. They don't allow you to make

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your kayak there. They don't want
you to be on to explore there on

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that side. So um, yeah, it was. It was. It

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was interesting that I just I was
fine, just having a good old time

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floating around, messing around, swimming, and then all of a sudden,

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I'm just terrified for no reason whatsoever. Have there been reported sightings in that

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area as well? Absolutely, Um, okay, what's great. And I

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can say this just by if you
go to um, have you been to

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the I don't know, You're you're
out, You're in a different state.

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There's there's a Bigfoot museum. And
you know, when he moved down here,

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I took him here. And I
and I had been to Blue Ridge,

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Georgia a million times, and I've
always passed the Bigfoot Museum and I

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thought it was just some touristy little
gift shop with knick knacks and T shirts

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and hats. But I took him
there because he really wanted to go when

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he first moved down here. And
I was blown away with all of the

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scientific evidence and the documentation. But
they they have a map of the state

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of Georgia and they have a little
pen marked of all of the sightings and

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all of they've They've got this really
great library of where everyone has actually had

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actual sightings or experiences. And I'm
looking at this and I'm like, holy

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cow, this is where I hike. This is where I'm at all the

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time, like all of the heavy
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and the Chatta Huciocone area, and
this this whole part of North Georgia that

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I end it is my turf,
you know. And there's all these sightings

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there and I'm like, oh my
gosh, this whole time, I've been

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going here all the time by myself
alone. Um, right right here all

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the time. Yes, it's a
very um, heavily active area for sightings.

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Um. We went on this one
trail and the way I took it,

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they were when we say when we
stay, like the tree brass are

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almost like warnings, like don't come
past this. You know you'll see them.

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It's odd you'll see them on one
side of the trail prominently and not

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the other. And I'm not sure
you're if you're a hiker, are you

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a hiker. I used to be
a lot more than I've hiked the Appalachian

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Trail, all of Massachusetts, in
Connecticut. I grew up in New England.

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But so I have a history back
in the day. Yeah, okay,

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so you know how there's one side, there's the other. Sure,

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so when we get on, when
we get on these trails, some of

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them just right off the bat As
soon as you get on these trails,

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one side, which tends to be
the side of the side of where the

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elevation is going up, there's going
to be all of the structures and the

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tree breaks and the tree bends,
and that's where we see that. And

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some of them as soon as you
get on that trails. And it's funny

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because these trails aren't all. I
love all trails, because people will complain.

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They'll say it, I never got
to the waterfall. I couldn't find

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it. The trails not marked,
parking lots not marked. The forest system

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is not keeping up with this trail. Those are the ones we go to.

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And um I used to before I
met him, I used to blaze

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the trails. I used to bring
blazing equipment. I would I would make

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sure I got it marked, and
now I would go back and I would

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blaze that so other hikers wouldn't get
lost. And now, seeing what I'm

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seeing, I'm like, no,
I'm going to leave this trail alone,

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and I'm not going to blaze it
and make it easy for other people to

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find. There's a reason the forest, the forestry doesn't keep up with it.

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There's a reason. Yeah, oh
absolutely, yeah. Wow. So

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now I'm respecting that, and I'm
I've stopped blazing the trails and I'll find

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it and just do the best I
can to find these trails and enjoy them.

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Yeah. Like like, for instance, the one that she was talking

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about where she had her first sound. When I went on this trail,

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we got to this one section and
it looked like it had just been ravaged.

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There were trees probably sixty eight inches
around, pulled up on the ground,

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laid across the trail all the way
fifty yards for fifty yards, and

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you couldn't find where these trees just
fell over. There were there were no

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stumps, there was no root balls, there was no holes where they came

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from. They were picked up and
put here. There's there was Yeah,

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it didn't matter, and there there
was there was tree bends, there was

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twisted brakes. I mean, it
didn't looked like it looked like a tornado

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or a hurricane went through there.
And here's the thing. It was in

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a valley. So and these trees
were no order. There was no order

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to it. Like I said,
you couldn't see where they fell over,

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because that's the first thing I started
doing it is I started looking to see

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if these trees just fell over,
if they were broken from up top and

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they you know, they just fell
down from a dead tree or whatever.

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These weren't. These were These were
placed here in this area. And it

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went like I said, it went
on for fifty yards. And it took

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us thirty minutes to walk through this
fifty yards because we had to walk over

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all these trees to get through this
area. It was insane. Several years

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ago when I had went on that
trailer, I took pictures and I had

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posted it on Facebook and I said, oh, I've got an obstacle course

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for a trail today. I remember
and they were still there and and he's

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like, that's that's U. Yeah, it was. It was pretty intense.

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We didn't I think it it had
been there, done there, it

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had been done a long time ago. It wasn't anything fresh, but nonetheless

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it was there. I mean it
was. It was pretty obvious to me.

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But wow, that you guys have
some fascinating stories. You're definitely in

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an area where things are going on, and Tamara, I want to just

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verify with you. You haven't had
a sighting yourself yet. Correct? I

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have not. Okay, I have
a feeling one day you will, though.

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Yeah, I think it's inevitable.
Yeah, wow, for as much

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as as much as is we've that
I've noticed down here, just just evidence

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and signs it, Yeah, it's
inevitable. You know all. We were

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one of the one when I found
my first track down here. It was

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it was it was odd. It's
almost like it almost looked like if you

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there's deer tracks mixed in with tracks
on the trail, and to me,

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it looked like they were hurting deer
to us a valley because the trail kind

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of went around and there was a
like a bowl down to the left or

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to the if you're if you're anyways, it looked like they were running down

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the trail hurting deer to one massive
area. Because then all of a sudden,

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the tracks the footprints stopped, and
then the deer tracks went right down

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into this bowl and then that was
it. And you could see where the

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leaves were tore up, you could
see dirt torn up. It just it

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looked pretty pretty up, I mean. And you can see them on the

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side of the trail where it looked
like a foot was sliding down the side

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of the trail about every ten feet. Well, not to be too descriptive,

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but in that area, did you
find any bones or you know,

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um or who is anything like that? Here's the thing, when when we

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see signs and tree brakes and bins
and stuff like that, we will venture

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off the trail. I got you. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not

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going to push my luck. Yeah, you know, we're because the trails

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that were on you know, we're
five five miles away from the road,

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the paved road at some point.
Okay, so here in fairy remote areas

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too. I don't want to get
stuck out to her. Yeah, you

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know, you put your phone up
and it's there's nothing. Wow. So

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you know, when we see stuff
like that, we just stick to the

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trail and we'll observe and look.
And but as far as getting off the

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trail. No, I ain't happening. I was born and nine, but

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it wasn't last nime. I like
that, Gabe and Tamara, this has

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been a super fun chat. And
I know it's getting late where you guys

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are at because you're ahead of me. Um, but man, I feel

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like I might be talking to you. I feel like you guys are gonna

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have some more situations come up in
the future, so I think we need

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to definitely keep in touch with me. Um. If anything else happens,

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let me know. Gabe. Absolutely, yeah, um plenty more from from

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Indiana. Oh you do Oh my
goodness. Oh absolutely, you're killing me,

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Gabe. Oh yeah, Uh,
we're gonna have to do We're gonna

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have to do a part too someday. Man. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah,

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this has been a good time.
Um. I have a feeling people

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are gonna be saying when you're gonna
get when you're gonna get Gabe and Tamar

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back on. But uh, this
has been super fun. Thank you for

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for chatting. And I appreciate you
guys chatting with me tonight. Yeah.

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Absolutely, I appreciate that. The
opportunity the way I see it, like

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like I texted you earlier, the
way I see it is if if I

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can hear and I can get on
here, we can tell our stories.

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Maybe there's somebody else out there listening
it's too afraid to tell their story.

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Maybe this will give them the courage
to come out. And now I feel

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super bad about it. You know, who cares what anybody thinks. I

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know what I saw, I know
what's out there. That's all I care

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