Nov. 13, 2025

Bigfoot Sighting in Indiana: Terry’s True Encounter near Morgan Monroe & Putnam County

Bigfoot Sighting in Indiana: Terry’s True Encounter near Morgan Monroe & Putnam County
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Season 1

Indiana outdoorsman Terry shares his true Bigfoot encounter—from a childhood sighting in Danville to modern investigations across Putnam County, Morgan Monroe State Forest, and Turkey Run State Park. Hosted by Jeremiah Byron of the Bigfoot Society Podcast, this episode uncovers eerie evidence, strange lights, rock throwing, and sightings near Indianapolis. Discover why Indiana may be one of the Midwest’s biggest Bigfoot hotspots.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, pick for the Society.

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You've got the privilege of talking to Terry today. Terry's

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an individual. I got connected to send a message after

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I think probably Terry, I saw you in the Small

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Town Monsters documentary. I'm guessing yeah, and I was like, man,

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I would love to have a chat with Terry. So

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reached out and he was willing to come on the show.

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So a few things about Terry here. Terry's an outdoorsman,

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a photographer and also a bigfoot investigator, and he's had

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some really interesting things happen along the years, so that's

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why he is on the show today to share a

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bit about that. So welcome to the show, Terry. How

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are you doing.

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I'm doing fine. Thank you for having me.

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On, absolutely Terry, if you wouldn't mind taking us back

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to when you first started having interactions with Bigfoot and

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what that was like at that point in your life.

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For me, it's here in Indiana, Okay.

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So I'm gonna guess I was in fifth grade and

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me and a friend who lived on a farm across

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from us, were on his property in his wintertime, and

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we were out in his woods playing and we had

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just came back across the creek and we're going to

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head back up to his house. When we got just

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maybe I don't know, hundred yards or so from the

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woods into the pasture, we heard a loud noise which

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drew our attention to turn around look, and we saw

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something tall, dark and hairy. It looked like it probably

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stepped on a fence back there, and it was walking

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behind a woodpile, and we could tell it was tall

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because I knew about how tall the woodpile was or

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the fallen tree. And then it came around the corner

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I could do that s and then kind of it

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looked like it was. We come back down the hill

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towards where we are, but then it turned and went

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back up and we saw it walk off into the

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next set of woods on the other person's property, and

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I don't know, want me to say bigfoot, but we

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said bigfoot.

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And.

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I guess that's the only thing we knew what we

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thought it could be. And so, like dumb young kids did,

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we said, we're going to go look. So we go

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back into the woods and we go up to where

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the tracks are and they are barefoot tracks and they're

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pretty big. Of course, we know we didn't measure them

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at that time. We had nothing with us, and we

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wouldn't have known what to do back then, being such

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a young age. So we're like, wow, why would anybody

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be walking in the woods barefoot? And we thought maybe

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it was just a guy in a coat. But with

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that now, this guy would freeze that being barefoot. So

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we decided we're going to follow the tracks. So we

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started following the tracks. We go into the next section

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of woods and then this is where it got airing,

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and we we found maybe four the six piles of rocks,

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maybe two foot tall, stacked in pyramid shapes and we

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were like, what is this And so look, we started

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uncovering one of the piles of rocks and there was

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a dead cat onan so we didn't cover another set

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of rocks a dead cat. So this whatever, this was

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storing food and it was so weird because we know

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animals do not store food, especially like that. And that's

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when we decided we're leaving. So we left. And that

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was to the extend of all that happened that day.

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Every once in a while at our house we would

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hear We heard one night a man screaming and it

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was so loud that the next day our neighbors Bosso

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heard it and we didn't know if that was cougar

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or we.

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Didn't think about bigfoot.

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And so let's fast forward to the summer. I go

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back over to that farmhouse. It's owned by another new family,

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and I stopped and I talked to the sun that

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was outside, and I told them about our childhood experiences

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on the farm. I said, the way I could go

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back there, and look, I'm just I've been dying to

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know if there's still any signs of what I see.

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And he goes, let me get dad out here.

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His dad knows more about what's going on, and he

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really should be the one that says yeah, r nay.

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And so his dad comes out and I tell him

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and I said, have you noticed anything odd or had

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any experiences? And he goes no, but and he's talking

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to his son. He goes, but your sister has, And

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the son kind of perks up, like what, and he goes, yeah,

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she used to have parties back there in the woods,

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and she won't do it anymore because she kept seeing

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the shadow people.

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And the son was like, why if I never heard

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about this?

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So I was fascinated to think that there still could

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be activity after all these years back in those woods

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with maybe the same thing or offspring of whatever it was.

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It could be generational. And I still would love to

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go back there, but he wouldn't allow me to go

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back there. So I don't know if it's because the

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insurance reasons are why, but he.

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Wouldn't want to go back on his property.

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So that was my experience as a child, and I

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wanted to follow up with it since I knew more

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about what to do today. So that's pretty interesting.

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Okay, So yeah, that is extremely interesting. So to maybe

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ask a few questions about what you've shared so far.

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So you said it was tall, dark and hairy. How

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far away from it would you approximate that it was?

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So from the creek to where we were, maybe one

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hundred yards from the creek to the hill, maybe another

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fifty we could clearly see it. We could clearly see

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it once it came around the woodpile or the tree

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to keep calling woodpile is a fallen tree. But we

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could clearly see it when it came in. Did that

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little s turn back up the hill because that was

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coming down at us and then it turned and went

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back up.

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How tall would you think it was.

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Man as a kid in the distance. It's really hard

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to say. It could have been six or seven foot.

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Maybe it was big, had long arms, darkened fur, and

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at first we thought it was just a guy who

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wearing a coat until we saw the footprint.

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Absolutely, that is so one hundred yards fifty yards that

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would be you'd see stuff, but it would be hard

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to see some details. Probably did you, oh, yeah, we

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could make out facial.

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Or I know, I know, maybe this is why it

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turned up.

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I do know it looked at us because you could

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see what looked like I guess from that distance a face,

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a face looking at us, but you couldn't make out

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because we thought it was maybe wearing a fur hat,

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and you just couldn't make out the details. So that's

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why we thought it was a person at first.

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You said it so dark dark kind of coat or hair,

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whatever you would want to call it. Were you able

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to see a color at all, or just that it

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was dark.

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It looked like black, and it was all black, not

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just from because if a person one had just been

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wearing a coat, it had been from the waist up.

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But it's all dark. But we didn't put that two

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and two together at the time.

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Oh, sure, you're in fifth grade, so you're.

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We were really scared because we both yelled like bigfoot.

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And then then we it was like, let's got the

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kids and I took over. Let's go look.

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Absolutely what year was this.

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Let's see.

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Sixty one, and I'm not sure how old I wasn't

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fifth grade.

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You could have been around ten or eleven potentially.

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Probably, yeah, probably not that age bracket. Yeah, I wouldn't

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have been older.

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I know that.

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Let's see, that would have been so twenty five years ago.

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Two and then what's the seventies.

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Maybe, yeah, I would say definitely the seventies.

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Okay, gotcha. So had you heard anything about bigfoot activity

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in the area prior to the or seen any movies.

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No, I didn't even know anything about really bigfoot, so

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I never would have I thought anything about it. And

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I'm like I said, I'm not even for sure why

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we said bigfood. I really can't remember watching anything or

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I don't even know how I knew about bigfoot.

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I really don't.

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Yeah, that that is probably one of the weirdest things

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right there is It's very strange. But you knew to

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yell it and that's what you did. So there you go. Also,

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so you went back to the property then as an

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adult or was it the summer next?

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No, I went back as an adult this summer, okay, gotcha,

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Because it's always been in back my mind that I

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want to go back, and I really wanted to go

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back into the next section of the woods where the

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piles of rocks were to see if they were still there,

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and just to see if there was because now I

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know what to look for as far as activity goes,

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and that's what.

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I really just wanted to see.

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I found it interesting that the dad had told me

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about his daughter being scared to go back there because

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I've seen shadow people.

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Absolutely, I'm guessing you never got access to talk to

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the daughter. Probably correct, No, And.

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I gave him my number and told him if she

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would ever want contact me, to do gotcha.

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So let's go back to your in fifth grade. You

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have this really interesting encounter that happens. Your friend is there,

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and it's just one of those classic Americana stories young kids,

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the monster stranger things. How did that start affecting you

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in the years after it? Did you jump right into

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I got to figure out what this is? Or did

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you forget about it and come back at a later time.

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I just forgot all about it.

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Remember telling another body at school, and he used to

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joke with me about it, and that was just a

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thing even through high school that we joked about always

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you do a big foot around. That was his joke

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with me, and that was really it. There was never

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no thinking about, oh, I should go back and look.

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I also find this very interesting that the guy that

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I was with, his cousin went to my high school,

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and she recently contacted me about her daughter who lives

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out by Stylesville, and said her daughter thinks that they

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have a big foot on their property.

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So I thought this was very interesting.

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There was a family connection to my friend back then

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that went to current today, and so I went and looked,

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and I got some interesting things in my trail camera

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that I'm not really.

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For sure what they are.

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But after about three or four days the activities stopped,

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so either I scared it off or it's staying away

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from my cameras. Whatever this thing was on my camera,

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I thought that was very interesting to tie in between

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my friend back then and my investigation that I went

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to just recently.

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Absolutely in Indiana has come up on the show actually

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quite a bit recently, but it's been more southern Indiana

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because you're down there by the Ohio River in the

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border of Kentucky. So there's a lot going on down there.

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As you mentioned Stylesville, and I'm looking it up, that's

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actually up closer to Indianapolis right now.

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Stylesville is if you go out forty west. I live

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in Plainfield, so it's about twenty something minutes west on

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US forty.

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Now, an interesting thing about this one I just did.

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My encounter as a child was in Danville, and one

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of my Hotspots is in Bainbridge, and there's a lot

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activity in near Amo. So there's a lot of activity

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in this one little area of the west side of Indianapolis.

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I don't know if they are the same. I also

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have a friend who lives just west of forty two

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in Morrisville who had a siding on his property, So

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I don't know if these are the same plans or

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different ones.

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But it's just interesting.

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There's a lot of activity not just down southern Indiana,

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but also in this area.

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Also.

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That's good to know because a lot of the stuff

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I get is from like who's your National Forest? And

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then I just talked to a guy from that was

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Brown County State Park. He had something happening there. Yeah,

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that was really interesting. But is so is there a

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good amount of forest to the west of Indianapolis.

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Then yeah, you.

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Got Turkey Run, you got shades. Those are huge tracks

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of forests. And then you have a lot of nature preserves.

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And this seems to be where I find the most

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activity or nature preserves. Maybe it's because it's less travel

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with people, because some of the nature breserves I go

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to are.

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Not well known. So maybe they.

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Like those areas because there's water, there's deer. I mean,

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it's all the food source.

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Absolutely. I'm glad you brought up Turkey Run because I

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was not aware this is the same area and that

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places come up on the show before. Some really weird

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encounters and sightings happened in that park, at least at

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least one of them that I can remember, and I

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visited there as a younger person, and it's you've got

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the that that canyon area, you go into the high walls,

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and really easy to see how something could hide out

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in there. But have you heard of anything happening in

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that area?

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Then I personally haven't, but I don't really know a

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lot of people from that area. Okay, another kind of

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weird thing that happened just recently while we were out

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near that area.

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We were fishing on a boat.

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Now I'm not going to say this is one hundred

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percent Bigfoot, but I really don't know how to explain this.

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We run a boat on the north end of a

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lake in Waveland, It's called Waveland Lake, and that's near

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probably Shades and Turkey Run, and this area of COVID

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just came out of on the boat.

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We the best way I can describe it.

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On the hill of this cove was woods and then

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also cornfields, so there's nothing really, no houses or nothing

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right there. And we heard it sounded almost like an

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ELK call, but different, and we both looked at each other,

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what and the heck was that? So I played an

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ELK call on YouTube just to see if I could

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get a response, and we heard something run off heavy,

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but we never saw one thing move at all, And

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I'm thinking, how should we should have seen corn moving

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or woods moving and we didn't see nothing at all.

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And I didn't tell my buddy this because he's not

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really much of a believer in big food, but it

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really reminded me. And I know the show is kind

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of a spoof, but it reminded me on a show

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that had the midnight Whistler on it, and it sounded

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kind of like that, because that sounds like an ELK

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caol and I thought, now, I know that's reaching that

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would be the midnight whistler, But it didn't make me

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think maybe it was a bigfoot screaming ass for being

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too close to the woods, but did.

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Sound like an ELK, And I'm thinking, we don't.

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Have to at least roman free in Indiana that I

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know of. No, I don't know it's true or not.

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It just could be assuming. But that was very odd.

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No, that is odd. So you had mentioned earlier that

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you went away from the subject, you forgot about the

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childhood encounter. Was there a certain thing that brought you

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back then in your adult years to looking into this subject.

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Yeah.

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I had met a guy while we were out in

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my hotspot out in Petnham County. This was a strange

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way of meeting him. We me and my buddy were

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hiking at this hot spot and we come across this

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guy and his wife, and we'd talked to him about

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just normal stuff and then we didn't really mention anything

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about bigfoot at the time. And then I think he

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asked us why we were there, and we told him

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that we were checking out some odd stuff that's been

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going on in this area. Well, he messaged me later

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on Facebook. I don't know how he found me, but

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were you by chance to one of hiking that day

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as to yel And we got the talking and found

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out that he lives in this area I told you

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about near Amo.

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They had a lot of activity.

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And they were there for the same reason looking because

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they've had encounters at the same place.

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And that's how I.

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Got hooked up with the IBRO is through him, because

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he attended a lot of stuff going on with our

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local chapter.

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And that's how I got plugged in.

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Gotcha and I would I would guess, So IBr O

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is that like a local Bigfoot research group for Indiana?

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Then yes, okay, yes, that's ran By Leroy Nail.

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Sure, yep, I've heard that name before.

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And so I started going to the get togethers, and

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I've been going for oh Man a long time, and

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I get to know a lot of the core people,

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and then eventually I became one of the core people

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and I went from curiosity to being a researcher.

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Was there a certain event that took you from that

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curiosity to being a researcher? Usually when you talk to people,

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there's something that kind of pushes you over the edge.

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Or was that something where you were already there because

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of your childhood experience.

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No, it was because of the different things that we

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were experiencing at this one particular location out in Petenham

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County that just made you want to know more about

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what's going on. And like when you hear what sounds

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like a Louisville sluggerhead tree and you're out of the middle

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of nowhere and you know it's not a person. You

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start to think what a nature can do that. You

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start finding track lines of barefoot tracks, which.

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Brought me back to my childhood. You're like, what could

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do that?

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I guess it could be a person walking the creek,

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But when you get into the size of the tracks,

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they are saying.

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This person's got really huge feet.

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And then why would a kid be walking barefoot and

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towards cold weather time? And then those things make you

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want no more. And then the more you get into it,

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the more weird things happened and you experience, and you

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just keep wanting to know more and more.

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Absolutely, And I apologize, my mute button has decided to stick,

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so that's why I'm taking a few seconds to kick

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back in. But so, this Putnam County definitely has some

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interesting things going on. Has it gotten to the point

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where you or people in your group have also had

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sightings in the area as well?

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Yes, I want the guy I told you I met

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at this particular place had not only sightings on his property,

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family as kids, everyone of them seeing this particular group

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of bigfoots on their property for a long time. It

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used to be they choked. It was like a little

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stopping point for him. They had a little patch of

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woods in the back of their property butted the cornfields,

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and this particular group of bigfoots would come by every

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year and they would see them. They got so used

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to see them that they kind of left them alone

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because they just got to accept that that's what they were,

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and that's I know that they've had multiple sightings.

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And is it so it sounds like it's a thing

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where it only happens certain times of the year, Is

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that right?

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No, this is all year round in this particular area.

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Same thing with Morgan Moreau another huge hot spot. They

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have sightings all year round. So I don't believe they migrate.

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And Morgan Monroe is a state forest that's south of Indianapolis. Correct, Yes,

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towards Martinsville, gotcha. And really looking at the map, that

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forest could connect to Yellowwood, which could connect really to

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Brown County State Park. So yeah, it all goes together,

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doesn't it. Yes, Yeah, wild from I'll say this at

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different parts of the country seem to have different types

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of sightings or people report them looking certain ways. Have

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you found any patterns to the sightings that you're seeing

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around this area? Do they look a certain way usually

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or certain colors.

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Normally?

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The people that I've talked to have seen them all

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say dark. The other thing is a friend of mine

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a very close encounter and.

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Within ten feet of them, and pitched.

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Black night and snapped a picture at the last second

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because he felt like something was wrong. He could fill

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the heat off of something. So they snapped a picture

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and it took off running once it realized that my

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friend had a phone in his hand and it the

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picture looks just more it looks more humanoid than it

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does ape, but it still has like an apeish looking features. Also,

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it's kind of like a cross between ape and man

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from the look of the face. So that's probably the

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best picture I've ever seen of one that close as

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far as the facial features.

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Wow, that's really a big deal.

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Oh yeah, it's a huge deal.

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And he also was in the interview for Small Town Monsters,

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which it hasn't aired yet. I don't know if they're

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going to show the picture or not. But he didn't

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never wanted to go on the internet because you know,

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critics are people tear things apart and would say photoshop

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or AI.

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And but it's legit. It's a legit.

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Picture, which is wild. The way it's subscribed, it sounds

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like first it sounds like it was taken before AI. Yes, yeah,

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so that's my.

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Friend's not techy savvy, so he wouldn't know how to

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do that.

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It's impossible. And we took this picture.

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To the Ohio Bigfoot conference and we showed at that time,

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when he was alive, doctor Jeff Miltrim. We showed him,

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and we showed Cliff Brockman. And later I found out

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that doctor Jeff Mildrim had approached Cliff and said, what

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do you think that picture?

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That's pretty pretty wild.

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They were intrigued by it, and so later I had

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a chance to talk to Melbourn and he's, Okay, I

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need to know more about this picture to back up

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your story because I don't know you, I don't know him.

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I'm the circumstances because but I want to see his

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camera roll on his film so I could see the

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series of pictures he's taken. And I said, okay, I'll

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get that for you, And so I did what he

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had asked me to do, and there's only just a

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few pictures on that particular day.

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He goes, it's aunt that he didn't.

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Take a bunch of pictures that day, and I'm like,

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he didn't take a bunch of pictures and he's not

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the type he just goes randomly just take an odd picture.

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So he had his camera writing case something happened. He

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didn't know he was going to take a picture, so

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why would he have multiple pictures of things that he's

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not normally taking pictures all the time. So I said,

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I gave you what you wanted, here's the camera role.

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What more can we do? And he's it's just going

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to I'll have to say it's an unknown because I

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don't know all the circumstances and it could be legit.

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And like my friend says, it's pretty legit, so he's

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want to sell it.

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Yeah, in all respect to doctor Meltrim, we did lose

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a great guy in the community, But no, personally, I

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don't think that would be enough to discredit anything. Just

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the fact that take other photos that to me doesn't

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make sense, each to their own. I would want to

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look more into the metadata of the photo to see, Okay,

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if it's taken on a phone, then it probably has

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date and also coordinate information, so I can say, okay,

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look up the coordinates. Is it the same area where

478
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.240
this guy is saying he took the photo?

479
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:48.599
Man?

480
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.119
That that sounds very compelling. It's going to be a

481
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.359
photo like that where it could really kick things off.

482
00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.920
And it's been what let's see sixty seven to now

483
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.359
is to what fifty sixty years? It's time to have

484
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:10.680
some other type of incredible evidence is needed. And in

485
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:15.720
today's day, where there's AI, it's hard, really hard to

486
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:17.559
get that legitimate evidence.

487
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.680
And I think, yeah, in.

488
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:25.720
This particular area where this picture was taken, we've cast tracks,

489
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.880
We've got hair samples that right now we're sending. We've

490
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:30.920
sent off to I believe his name is Darby.

491
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:33.240
Yeah, Diarby are quite or tay huh.

492
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.880
So we sent this off just recently to his new

493
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:42.359
lab that he's at to be analyzed. And something else

494
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.720
that we have that most people don't have is we

495
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.960
have somebody who works as a dispatcher for that area

496
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:53.680
and they're calling my friend all the time telling them

497
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:58.599
about another sighting that they have to go investigate. And

498
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:03.240
there's lots of sighting that are going undocumented in that area.

499
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:08.440
Oh my goodness, we're casting tracks, hair samples. My friend

500
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:12.240
had the siding there. We've had rockstrown at us, We've

501
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:16.680
had you name it. We get things that happened to

502
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:20.640
us in this area. So not just Fyrie and Petnam County,

503
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:22.279
but also in Morgham and Road.

504
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.319
And it's wild that this If you look at a map,

505
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:31.000
as you said, it's within twenty miles of Indianapolis, right, Oh,

506
00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:35.359
that's incredible. But I've been to that area and you

507
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:40.640
don't have to get far outside the city to realize that, Yeah,

508
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.359
there's some woods out here. I think we went some

509
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:48.160
some dairy farm on the northwest side of Indianapolis, and

510
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.799
long story short, the woods out there were incredible and

511
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:53.960
it was right outside the city. So I can totally

512
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:57.319
see now that I know this, Yeah, there could definitely

513
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:00.480
be a ton of bigfoot activity out there in these areas.

514
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:05.480
I think that's a really interesting lesson potentially for other

515
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:08.279
people in other parts of the country to learn, is

516
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:12.720
you get the right connection like that, and you're going

517
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:17.400
to get the stuff that just gets tossed away by

518
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.519
the police department because they don't really care or they don't.

519
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:24.279
Well, nine times out of ten, when the officer gets there,

520
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:28.759
there's nothing to see, so true, true, just reporting of something.

521
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:36.400
That's been told to them. Though now I do know somebody.

522
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:39.720
Have met over the years who's a retired Louisiana State

523
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:40.880
Police officer.

524
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.880
And he's had a siding and that's why he's.

525
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:50.119
In it, and that tennans always get my attention when

526
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.440
you're dealing with somebody who's in law enforcement that has

527
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.559
had a siding, because that adds credibility because they're detailed people.

528
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:00.200
They're not gonna mistake a human or a bear for

529
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.440
a bigfoot. They know what they're seeing when they see it,

530
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.440
and that just adds more credibility to me when you

531
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:12.440
have somebody that's higher up in the credibility department that

532
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:13.400
has a sighting.

533
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.720
So you already mentioned that there's been a at least

534
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:23.839
one ten foot away encounter where the photo was taken. Yeah,

535
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.519
was that an outlier where you guys are getting that

536
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.319
close or are have there been other times when you've

537
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.559
gotten relatively close.

538
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:32.359
Let's have one.

539
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:39.119
We've had one in the same area we were sitting in.

540
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:43.240
This is how crazy we are and this is what

541
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.400
he did when he has an encounter. Let me back

542
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:48.319
up to history first, and I'll go to our current

543
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:52.039
encounter bit. Sir, he was sitting deep in the woods

544
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:55.640
in this area in a chair in front of his vehicle.

545
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.640
He had thrown some chicken gizer deel around the area,

546
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:02.160
which I thought man just wanting to be a bigfoot dinner,

547
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:06.279
and he said, you could hear the gids of being

548
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:10.799
eaten and something coming around. He said, at first I

549
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:15.240
thought this raccoons or an animal, and then he said,

550
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:16.839
I just had this uneasy feeling.

551
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:19.279
And he said, I always keep my.

552
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.559
Phone on without the light on, the camera in my

553
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.680
front pocket and my sweatshirt, so in case.

554
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:27.640
I need to take a picture, I can real quick.

555
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.559
And that's when I felt like I could almost feel

556
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.559
the breath with something real close to me, and I

557
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:36.640
got scared, so I wanted to see what it was,

558
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:41.480
so I take a picture, and he said, the camera

559
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:44.599
took the picture and then immediately it just tore off

560
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:45.440
through the woods.

561
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.799
He said, you could just tell as mad.

562
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.200
So fast forward to us sitting in chairs in front

563
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.720
of the vehicle on a parking lot not too far

564
00:33:56.759 --> 00:34:01.160
from where he has encounter. We're doing our just doing

565
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.920
some whoops and goofing off really and maybe I want

566
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:12.159
to say twenty yards or less in that area off

567
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:14.679
to my right. I had just got out of the

568
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.440
jeep to get something, and I was checking the.

569
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.639
Back of the vehicle because he thought he heard something

570
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:20.159
back there, so.

571
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:23.199
I went to look, and my guy, there's nothing back there,

572
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:25.920
and I just get ready to come around the corner

573
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:29.559
and I hear almost a softer version of my whoop

574
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.159
about twenty yards to my right in the woods, and

575
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:38.679
I was so scared. I ran jumped inside the vehicle,

576
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:44.320
and I knew that there wasn't normal. I was like,

577
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:48.559
there's no animals that can mimic my whoop, and.

578
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:51.480
That really terrified me.

579
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.559
I don't get scared too often, but I've had enough

580
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.039
time said this stuff happens that does scare you.

581
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:01.320
And then.

582
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.519
It calmed down after a while, and then nothing else happened.

583
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.559
So I think it was just letting us know it

584
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:17.960
was there and knew that it was watching us, and.

585
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:17.679
Let us know it was in the area.

586
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.280
And that's the same area we've also been hitting with rocks,

587
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:25.639
and okay, that's a really hot area.

588
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:32.440
So it sounds like most of the interactions that are

589
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:36.599
happening in this area are pretty non aggressive, though, I

590
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:37.639
guess besides the rocks.

591
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:45.280
I was gonna say the way the rocks hit us, Okay,

592
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.519
the first rock that hit my buddy sitting left to

593
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:51.880
me and a chair, and it hit just the top

594
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:55.559
of his left knee and then ricocheted and hit me

595
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.960
in my right thigh. And we're sitting not even within

596
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.840
two foot of each other and me and I heard

597
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:09.320
him say ouch, and then I said ouch, and.

598
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.719
It stung my right leg. So the fact that.

599
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:14.480
I wonder how hard it must have skipped off of

600
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.280
him to hit me, because it hurt when it hit

601
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:20.360
my right thigh. And so we're like discussing this, and

602
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.760
within it maybe five minutes, I hear a thud and

603
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:25.960
I hear him go out again, and he got hit

604
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.000
in the chest and it hit him.

605
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:32.960
Hard enough to have left the bruise. And I'm thinking, what.

606
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:39.079
Kind of person, unless they're using night vision, can throw

607
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:45.079
rocks from the woods with accuracy like that. And I

608
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:50.880
don't know if I would call that aggressive, but maybe

609
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:52.360
wanting us to.

610
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.559
Leave, maybe, I don't know. I don't know how you

611
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:56.760
would categorize that.

612
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:03.920
And then just recently, maybe two nights ago, we had

613
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:07.320
something throw something very aggressively at the vehicle. We were

614
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:12.760
in a different location in that same area, and it

615
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.280
hit the vehicle on the top. It's got like a

616
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.880
rack up top. It hit it hard enough that it

617
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.920
sounded like a gunshot and the you know how tuning

618
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.800
fork sounds when you hit it. Yes, that's what the

619
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.519
one of the bars on his the rack did after

620
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:30.199
it hit it. Now, that was thrown with some force

621
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.960
and aggressive. So we left. But we've never I don't know,

622
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:39.079
I never felt like a danger, but I know when

623
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:42.239
to leave when things don't seem right.

624
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.559
Absolutely, And I think it's good that you feel like that.

625
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:48.760
I'm trying to think of what I would feel like

626
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:53.360
in that same situation. And man, when most of the

627
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:56.880
rock throwing stories I take, it's like they're not getting hit.

628
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.320
They're getting it's going by their head or or it's

629
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:03.880
whizzing by that. But you're actually getting hit and it's

630
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.360
hurting you, guys, And that kind of feels okay. It's

631
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.039
things are changing a little bit, kind of playing for key.

632
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.800
How big are the rocks that you're getting thrown at you?

633
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:14.920
That's just you know, when it's pitch dark and you

634
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:18.199
can't see, and like in the parking lot, it's all gravel,

635
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:20.920
So how are you supposed to find water through? And

636
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.440
then we tried to find whatever threw in the woods

637
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:27.159
that made that really loud hit. We couldn't find nothing

638
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:29.760
because you don't know what direction it's coming. And then

639
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:33.199
with the impact that would had to ricocheted off somewhere else.

640
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:37.000
So they ought to find what it was would be

641
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:37.639
very hard.

642
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.639
Yeah, are there any bluff charges that happen in the same.

643
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:51.880
Area another section of this area?

644
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:53.920
I wouldn't.

645
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:56.800
I don't know if i'd categorize this as a bluff charge.

646
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.440
But I was doing a ten mile high in this

647
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.679
area on a trail system, and I was on mile

648
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:11.119
ten maybe and maybe trail or maybe about nine miles,

649
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:14.920
and I had just came around this lake in the

650
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:19.880
woods and I come across a really weird tree structure

651
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.840
that caught my attention. A tree had been pulled out

652
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:26.039
of the ground, moved over three feet, and then wedged

653
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:29.400
into another tree. I knew a storm couldn't pick up

654
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:31.519
a tree and move it like this, And then I

655
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:34.960
had another cross piece and it was just really weird.

656
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:39.800
So I'm filming it and I hear what sounds like

657
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:42.400
the best way I could describe it as a man's

658
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:47.400
deep below and it was almost like it was like

659
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:51.320
a grunt, and I know it wasn't a deer. It

660
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:55.519
was too manly to sound and that really scared me.

661
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:58.440
And I was like, I guess it didn't like me

662
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.960
filming structure, So I'm getting out here. So that's what

663
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:02.320
I did.

664
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:02.960
I left.

665
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:04.960
But that's the only thing I could think of when

666
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.360
you said a bluff charge or a bluff charge.

667
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:14.079
Absolutely, taking everything you've said into consideration, I would agree

668
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:16.239
with you that this is a very active area. And

669
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:21.079
especially this isn't a state like Oregon or Washington. It's Indiana.

670
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:25.360
But you've got some wild stuff going on, which just

671
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.320
this by itself, I'd say people maybe need to take

672
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:32.079
a closer look at Indiana, and not just the southern

673
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:34.559
part of the state where most people go. But would

674
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.440
you be able to share anything that has happened down

675
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:39.719
in Morgan Monroe.

676
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:44.239
Most of the certain things that I was just talking to

677
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:48.360
you about, okay, cool, cool, And the only time I've

678
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:52.039
ever seen eyeshine is down in southern Indiana, Like the

679
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.199
southern like what you're talking about, the southern part of

680
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:58.519
the state. And this area is another hot spot that

681
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:02.679
another friend has been researching for a really long time.

682
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:06.639
And every time we go there normally we see eye shine.

683
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:10.079
And we just went there a couple of weeks ago

684
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:14.920
and it was out in the woods and I've never

685
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:16.960
seen this before ever. I've seen eye shine, but I've

686
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:22.400
never seen this happen before. I was watching this whitish yellow.

687
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:25.239
I guess it'd be an orb or it could be

688
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:28.480
an eye I don't know if faded like it was

689
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.559
going to disappear. It started to fade and it turned

690
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:34.639
to red, and then it was red for ten seconds

691
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.519
and then it disappeared. I've never seen that happen before

692
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.639
in my life, and I don't explain it.

693
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:41.639
I don't know what it was.

694
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:44.400
I don't know if it's an orb or eye shine,

695
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:46.559
but I've never seen nothing change colors like that.

696
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:54.599
As at first, it is really interesting when you get

697
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:57.920
things like that into the equation, not to say that

698
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.280
we can explain Bigfoot, but then you also start to

699
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:05.360
put things like maybe orbs lights that you can't explain,

700
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:08.239
and just it really gets interesting, and are you seeing

701
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:13.639
lights like that up in the Putnam County area as well.

702
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:18.159
All my investigation there has been during the day. Most

703
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:25.440
of my activity at Mortonroe is late into evening or Monroe. Yes,

704
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.199
there's lots of Like my buddy who took that picture

705
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:31.840
right before he seen that thing, or took the picture

706
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:37.639
of it, he was seeing orbs and he somehow thinks

707
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.360
that they're usually is orbs right before signing.

708
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:43.760
I don't know if that's true or not.

709
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.559
I don't know enough about the subject to say that's yeah,

710
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.639
your name, But I've never seen orbs at Putnam County

711
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:51.719
because it's during the day.

712
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.320
Is there a reason that you've been sticking to the

713
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:04.800
daytime hours for investigation in Putnam County.

714
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:07.960
Only because that's when they're active. It seems like they're

715
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:08.760
It's funny.

716
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:12.440
I had a friend come down from New Jersey and

717
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.400
he didn't leave in Bigfoot, and I wanted to take

718
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.760
him to this place, not only to hike, but to

719
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:21.400
let him see for himself what happens during the day.

720
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:28.079
And so we're down at the creek and.

721
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:32.880
Per sitting there talking and I said, watch, I'll do

722
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.519
a couple of rock collaps, and I took some rocks.

723
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:39.519
I clapped him. No, sooner I did that. And we

724
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.039
don't know where this came from. A branch comes flying

725
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:50.320
and like scares us. He didn't see it happened. I

726
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:52.159
didn't see it happened. So I assumed he did it.

727
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:57.079
He assumed I did it, And he said, wow, where

728
00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.239
did that come from? So we go over and look

729
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:02.599
at it and it's not even from the same type

730
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:05.519
of tree that's near there, So what even that type

731
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:08.239
of branch? And he's like, that's the same from the

732
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:10.599
same type of tree. And so if I told you,

733
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:12.800
I said, you must not really like me doing the

734
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:16.039
rock collapse. And he said, man, I never would believe

735
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:19.159
this unless I experienced it for myself. And I said,

736
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:21.159
this area has a lo activity during the day.

737
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.000
And so we're hiking up and we're getting ready to leave, and.

738
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:28.679
There's a really steep ridge that you go across and

739
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:31.800
you look down to the creek and across and he

740
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:34.400
stops me and he goes, what and the he uses

741
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.800
the f bomber? Is that over there? We see these

742
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:42.280
two yellow eyes in the brush looking at us, and.

743
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:44.760
You see it? You see it?

744
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.559
Said, yeah, I see it, And so We sat there

745
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:49.880
staring at it for a while and you can see

746
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:55.119
it blinking, and then they just quit, so it left

747
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.800
whatever it was quit blinking ass so we wouldn't see it.

748
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:02.400
And my buddy was just blown away because Wow, Because

749
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.159
when I get back to New Jersey, I'm gonta start

750
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.559
looking for all these type of things you told me

751
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:10.719
look for with the tree bends and breaks, and because

752
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:13.679
I'm gonna be more aware of my surroundings now because

753
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:14.920
I just never would believe this.

754
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.239
I experienced it myself. Well, that's pretty cool.

755
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.519
That is really cool. Do you guys have trees get

756
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:24.360
pushed over as well when you're in there?

757
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:26.480
Oh yeah, we get.

758
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:33.800
It's mainly bows and stuff and pre structures that we find.

759
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:39.880
We've only been one place where we heard a tree

760
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:42.719
get crushed. I don't know if it's stepped on it

761
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.559
and broke it or if it pushed it over, but

762
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:53.000
it was definitely very loud and you could tell it

763
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:56.039
definitely was a tree that kind of We got that

764
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.920
on our audio, so it's pretty cool. We also got

765
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:04.119
the audio of the rocks being thrown at our vehicle,

766
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:08.360
so we got a lot of audio. But I don't

767
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:12.400
know if I've ever heard a bunch of trees getting

768
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:17.079
pushed down. We had one tree that heard come down.

769
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:19.880
We don't know if that was from a storm or

770
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:24.239
rain or just a tree falling. We can't really say

771
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:27.719
any of these things are actually bigfoot exactly.

772
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:32.760
Does that ever happen after you guys do some sort

773
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:36.079
of vocalization or tree knock or anything like that, or

774
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.440
is it just happening randomly.

775
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:45.119
Awestly From what I've discovered or found. And I don't

776
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.440
know if other researchers would agree with this, I don't

777
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:52.000
think they like you doing the whoops in the knox

778
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:56.159
and any of that stuff. I know my friend's with

779
00:46:56.199 --> 00:47:00.159
me used to always do this wounded rabbit call, and

780
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:04.320
every time he'd get covered with rocks. And one time

781
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.119
in the group he was playing that and a big

782
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:10.559
limb came and smashed out the windshield of was jeep,

783
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:14.119
and they don't like it, so he quit using it.

784
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:18.519
So I know they don't like that. But we think

785
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:22.760
maybe when you're out there, you just need to be

786
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:26.440
quiet and not do any of that stuff, because we

787
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:28.119
really feel like they know you're already there.

788
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:32.719
Why do you need to do all that stuff anyway?

789
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.320
Was that also in Putnam County where the guy's window

790
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:37.119
got broken?

791
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:41.360
Now that was I want to say in Yellowood.

792
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:44.360
Which is right next to Morgan Monroe.

793
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:46.559
Which, yeah, Morgan Rogue is all the way to Yellowood.

794
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.320
Wow, they're not really messing around over there. That's wild.

795
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:53.239
That is wild, has anyone so I guess it sounds

796
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:58.719
like no one has gotten hurt past having a rocket

797
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:03.239
thrown at them and it's stinging. Uh huh, Okay, that's good.

798
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:07.280
We really don't. We really don't feel like they're out

799
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.599
to do anything wrong to you. It's like they're probably

800
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:11.679
just as curious.

801
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:15.119
About us as we are them, and they tend to

802
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:20.760
hang around campgrounds. They seem to like music and kids

803
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:25.159
and just like seeing what we're doing.

804
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:31.960
Have there been any events that could be considered in

805
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:35.039
for sound related that you've experienced or heard about?

806
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:40.119
Yes, Actually, of all places my spot in Putnam County,

807
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:46.679
this has happened to multiple people there that you feel

808
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:49.199
like you're disorientated and you don't know where you're at

809
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:54.880
all of a sudden, You've walked a certain trail maybe

810
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:57.599
one hundred times, and now all of a sudden, you

811
00:48:57.599 --> 00:48:58.719
don't know where you're at.

812
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:01.800
And it's a very weird feeling.

813
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:11.559
And that's happening to more than one person, Yes, okay, wow,

814
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:15.639
sometimes in a group as well.

815
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:20.320
There's been two of us together, or my other friend

816
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:25.719
with some other people and it's my one friend one

817
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:30.239
time was there with his family and his family's what's

818
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:33.840
wrong with you? And he didn't remember being there. And

819
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:42.719
that's how we call it being zapped, And that's the

820
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:44.840
term we use for it when all of a sudden,

821
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:48.119
you're disorientated or I feel like you don't know what's

822
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:48.599
going on.

823
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:50.079
I feel like they sapped you.

824
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:56.039
Yeah, that that definitely makes sense. Are there other things

825
00:49:56.280 --> 00:50:00.599
reported in this same county that are not big related

826
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.800
but would be like similar types of weird creatures out there?

827
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:11.079
Oh, there's a rumor of the dog man. How do

828
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:16.360
you really know that's out there? You know that's also

829
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.400
been rumored to be out there, but I don't know

830
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.360
of any other type cryptid activity.

831
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:29.719
What is your goal with the research that you've been

832
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:34.239
doing in the different areas that you have lots of activity?

833
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.440
Are you trying to work towards a certain thing like

834
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.840
discovery of the species or what would you say to.

835
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:48.119
That, I really do it because I want to know

836
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:53.800
what they are, what we kind of learned about their habits.

837
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:59.280
We learn about maybe the areas they frequent, and we

838
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:04.400
know something about them, but I want to know. It'd

839
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:07.719
be so nice if it was something that science said

840
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:11.239
existed and they could prove it, and they say the

841
00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:12.840
only way they're ever going to do that is they

842
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.559
have a body on the table. I guess for me,

843
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:20.199
it's just about keep learning about who they are what

844
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:24.800
they are, and that's what keeps me going. We all

845
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:29.519
share our research with people that we trust, and it

846
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:33.159
all helps to learn more, even from other people, and

847
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:39.800
I guess that's my goal, is to learn more about them.

848
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:44.039
That sounds like a great goal for sure, Terry. I

849
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.880
want to make sure as we get towards the end

850
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.039
of the interview, and thank you so much for spending

851
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:51.639
some time this afternoon talking to me about what you're

852
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:56.159
experiencing their west of Indianapolis. I want to make sure, though,

853
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:59.920
if do you have anything where ways people can keep

854
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:03.119
up to what you guys are up to, or is

855
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.679
it a thing where your research group and sometimes you

856
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:09.400
get on different shows to share about it.

857
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:17.880
You can normally find out through the local chapter there's

858
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:20.880
a lot of times that's where things are posting on Facebook.

859
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:21.599
Is that the.

860
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:26.519
Website or the Facebook group? And every year we have

861
00:52:26.599 --> 00:52:29.519
an Indian Bigfoot Conference. We just had our second one.

862
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.960
That's always at the last weekend of September. We have

863
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:35.159
a town hall on that Friday night where people can

864
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:35.840
come and share.

865
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:38.239
That's always really good because that's a.

866
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:40.960
Great way for people to connect and learn about what's

867
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:45.360
going on in their area. So that's another way of

868
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:48.440
really getting involved as going to one of the conferences.

869
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.199
Going to there's usually two get togethers a year that

870
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.880
the group does when the spring and one in the fall.

871
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:59.679
Attend one of those, learn what's going on from the

872
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:04.519
research and just get involved.

873
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.480
Absolutely. What's the name of the Facebook group? Is it

874
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:11.360
just look up for look up IBRO.

875
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:15.000
Or yeah, Indiana Bigfoot Research Organization.

876
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:18.880
Okay, And if people are interested that are maybe they're

877
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:21.800
listening from this area. Where does the town hall take place?

878
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:27.079
That is at the Indiana Bigfoot Conference? Oh okay, gotcha,

879
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:31.760
that's once a year now. Leroy also does library talks

880
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:36.519
and normally he posts that information also on Facebook on

881
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:42.840
that page, so they're always doing library talk so somebody

882
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:44.920
can notify him and say, hey, whyon't you come down

883
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:47.039
here and speak and he'll go speak so.

884
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.440
Fantastic. I'll make sure that I have links to that

885
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:56.559
in the show notes for this episode so people can

886
00:53:56.639 --> 00:53:59.639
easily find that. Terry, thank you so much for coming

887
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:03.199
on the show. Show really opened my eyes to I

888
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:06.119
didn't know so much stuff was going on closer to

889
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:10.239
Indianapolis than the South. But thank you for chatting today.

890
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:11.960
You're welcome in time.

891
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.599
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

892
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:20.840
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

893
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