Sept. 28, 2025

Crying Alone—Then Bigfoot Appeared | West Virginia

Crying Alone—Then Bigfoot Appeared | West Virginia
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Season 1

What happens when a woman walking through heartbreak finds herself eye-locked with a towering figure in the Appalachian mountains — one she thought was only a legend? In this haunting and emotional episode, we sit down with Beth Duncan, a Bigfoot researcher and lifelong resident of Southern West Virginia, who shares not only her unforgettable close encounter with a cinnamon-colored Sasquatch — but a lifetime of chilling activity in her holler. From ghost horses and tree knocks to a Bigfoot that slammed down on a car and crushed her best footprint cast, Beth’s story is filled with mystery, trauma, resilience, and awe. You’ll hear accounts of creatures peeking from trees, empathic eye contact from something not human, and unexplained buzzing in the woods. This is one of the most raw and powerful firsthand encounters we’ve ever recorded — and it might change the way you look at Sasquatch forever.

Resources: 

Beth's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@bethduncan5809

Referenced Youtube videos:

Did We Find Evidence of Bigfoot in West Virginia? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRtPygAd5Kg

There's Something in the Woods - https://youtu.be/lUSQ58RM2M0

Mystery Lights in Sasquatch Holler - https://youtu.be/npgJGQMbwAo?feature=shared

Sasquatch Mountains of Madness - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a48t6_8gowo

Sasquatch Unleashed! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnjueWTrSDE

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails in remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, big for Society get

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the privilege of talking to Beth Duncan today from West Virginia.

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Beth is a Bigfoot researcher, investigator in witness and happy

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to have Beth on the show today. It's been a

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long time coming, but it'd be great to hear what

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she has to share from this area of West Virginia.

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But welcome to the show, Beth.

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How are you doing today, I'm doing amazing. Thank you

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so much for having me. I want to start out.

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I'm from the southern West Virginia and I have quite

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a few stories, but I would like to start out

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with a few people in my family stories.

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First, I lived well.

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We lived in southern West Virginia and deep in the

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Appalachian Mountains. When my grandfather used to go fox hunting,

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and he would go back up into the mountains, and

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there was a place up in there that he always

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warned us about going, but he always liked going up

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there himself to hunt. And one time he went up

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and they called it the Meadow Hill Holler. And when

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he went up in that holler, something pushed him on

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both of his shoulders down a hill, and he dropped

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his weapon and had to grab and pick it up

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and start back down the hill. And he said that

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he was his feet was moving so fast that he

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couldn't keep up, and he kept tripping.

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Down the mountain.

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My mama, now Papa, always called him the old men

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of the Mountain, and I always thought that they were

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some sort of hobo were I really didn't know what

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the old Men of the Mountain really was, but I

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knew that it was something that I was supposed to

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be afraid of, that makes sense. And I knew that

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there were certain places up in there that I wasn't

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supposed to go. Now, Mama, her family on her side.

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They always called them burgers, mountain burgers, or just burgers,

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and there was place up in the holler she would say,

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don't go up there.

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The burgers will get you.

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So we always had this healthy fear of certain places

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up in the holler. Now Oirland, we have one hundred

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acres of land, which it's a pretty big place up

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in there. And the way that this land is constructed

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is there is a road that goes up the haller

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and on both sides is mountains and in between this

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is the road and like the little garden plots, and

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when you get to the head of the holler is

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a big field and then it backs up. You go

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up back up the mountain and you get to the

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power lines and like the telephone poles and stuff. I'm

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trying to give you an idea, so when I tell

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my stories, you guys would kind of understand, you know, how.

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Everything looks Now.

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When Mama used to tell us not to go up

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in there, they had stories that they always told about

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things happening to the m.

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And also when we were little and we.

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Was up at the head of the holler, up the spring,

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we were gathering water and they kept hearing something rustling

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in the tree line and we couldn't see anything. But

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eventually it got to the point where it nerved them

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enough that they told us that we needed to gather

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our things.

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And we needed to start walking out of holler.

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And I can see on Popaul's face, but it was

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something serious, and they wouldn't really tell us what it was.

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But I knew that I needed to listen to you

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and to do what they told us to do. And

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they kept telling us, and it was about a mile

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walk out of there, and they kept telling us, do

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not run.

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Whatever you do, don't run.

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What you do is you just keep your head in

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front of you and just keep it steady pace and

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don't look up on the side of the hill, and

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just don't run. So we knew that there was something

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to worry about, but we didn't know what it was.

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And later on they kept saying it probably was a bear,

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probably was a bear. But when we got older, you know,

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it was kind of said to us that it was

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one of the woodburggers or the old men of the mountain.

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Let's see.

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Now, they always had this thing that they would tell

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us it was the ghosts in the creek, the ghost

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horses in the creek, and they always tell us about

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the ghost horses that at night time, that you would

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hear these ghost horses in the creek and they would

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go up and down the holler, all the way up

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and down the haller up and down the creek, and

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you can hear clint flint clunt, just like how horses

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would do. And when you would stop walking, they would

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stop walking. Well, later on, you know, like this is

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after I started investigating. I put my recorder out there

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and lo and behold, guess what it was. It was

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the Sasquatch. Let's see what else. Oh, my aunt, my

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aunt has had accounts of something throwing rocks at her house,

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and she's also seen it was like almost getting dark

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and she could see something that ran down the creek

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and up the hill. And my other aunt actually watched

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this big black shadow jump in her five foot dog

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lot and jump back out and run up the mountain screaming.

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Right down the road from my holler is a state

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park that we have, and I'm not going to mention

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the names or anything, but it's a really beautiful place

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and you know, we played there since we were little

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and had no idea that anything could have like sasquaduch

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could inhabit that place.

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You know, we had no clue about that stuff forward

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a little.

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But anyway, so my friend Rachel actually had an account

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at the park.

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Her and her husband were parked right there.

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It's only two miles for my house, but they were

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parked at the park and they were in one of

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the parking lots and they were eating and it was nighttime,

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and she said that you couldn't see a hand in

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front of your face, you know. They turned out the

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lights and the vehicle and they were just sitting there

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and after they got finished eating, she flicked a cigarette

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out the window. And as soon as she flicked that

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cigarette out the window, something had jumped on the back.

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Of their vehicle.

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And they had one of these little compact like SUVs,

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but it was compact. It was these like little tiny broncos,

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and whatever it was was jumping on the back of

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her vehicle, and it noticed that if it would jump

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a little faster and harder, that it could hold them

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the front of the vehicle up. So it was doing

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that and eventually it jumped off and the vehicle actually

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slammed back to the ground and her husband finally got

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it put in gear and took off because they couldn't

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go anywhere when it.

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Was up like that.

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But when it fell back down to the ground, they

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took off and this little road out of there was

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really really curry, and they got almost halfway out with

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something grabbed the vehicle again and almost pushed them off

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the road. And she actually said for years, whatever it was,

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they had the handprint of it on the tire where

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it grabbed the tire and tried to push the tire.

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My brother was actually riding up the haller and he

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was on his four wheeler and he had his weapon

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and his gun ice hip, and he had my niece

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on the back of his daughter. And while they were

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riding up the haller, my knee cellar rock fly out

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of the woodline and it hit right on his gun,

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and that he said that they flew out of there.

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He felt it hit and he asked her what it

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was and she was like, I have no idea that

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it came flying out of the holler. One day last year,

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I was standing on the porch and this is so

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weird because my porch is like thirty feet from the

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woodline and I had just a rabbit foot, like a

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just the bone and all rabbit foot fly right in

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on my porch and land right at my feet. I'm

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not saying that it was sasquatch, but I'm just saying

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that that was.

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Very weird, which I believe it was.

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There's this legend about the Poke Mountain monster that everybody

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talks about around this area, and it's a sasquatch.

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They talk about this sasquatch that lives in this area.

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And back in the fifties and sixties and seventies and eighties,

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like all, everybody seen this monster and it frequented so

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much that that back to the end, most of the

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residents around here had seen it. And since we're speaking

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about that here recently, in the last year, actually there

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were nine sides at the local park that I lived by.

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Not only that, but my neighbors four of them have

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solid in the last ten years. So now I want

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to go ahead and start out by telling my story

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because I wanted to let everybody know, like the history

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of this place and what we've had to endure all

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our lives before I tell my story. And I thought

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it would be good to tell about the Holler two,

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So you guys kind of get an idea of where

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I came from and about my grandparents. But my story

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what happened to me was back in two thousand and

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I think it was seventeen eighteen somewhere, and there I

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was going through a lot. I had ex boyfriend that

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was really horrible to me, and he had ended up

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in prison. I had split up with him. I told him,

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you know, I don't want nothing to.

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Do with you anymore. You need to leave me alone.

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And when that happened, he got angry and he ended

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up in prison, and he would call me from prison

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and he would really really bother me, wouldn't leave me alone,

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and it was to the point where I would want

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to cry, couldn't cry in front of my kids, and

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I'd have to go for walks and you know, relieve

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myself and cry and just feel better. On this certain day,

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the day that all this happened, he had called me

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and you know, made me feel horrible and made me

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feel like I needed to cry, and I wouldn't cry

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in front of my kids. So I had my daughter,

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which was eighteen I was seventeen at the time. I

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had her to watch the two boys which was my

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little boy. The littlest one was one and TJ he

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was I think fifteen fourteen fifteen, and so I had

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her to watch them while I walked up the holler.

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And I noticed as I was looking up the holler

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that it just things weren't feeling right, even in my

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emotional state, like things just in the holler weren't right.

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There were the birds I didn't see, and this this

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holler has so much deer, and there were no deer.

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It was so quiet. And you know, I thought about

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after I got so far up there, turning around and

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coming home. But I thought, you know, if I don't

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go up there and just you know, relax and and

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calm down, then it's not going to help it yet.

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So I continued up the mountain.

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I got up the holler and then turned back around

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to go up the mountain to the power lines in

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the graveyard, which is at the very top of their

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property on the one hundred acres. And I get up

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to the graveyard and I sit there for a little while,

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and then I get up and I walk up to

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the power lines, which at the power lines, it's absolutely

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gorgeous because it's on the top of the mountain, and

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you can see everything from the top of that mountain,

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and it's just beautiful up there. I was sitting there

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and I started to cry, and I was a mess,

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like emotionally a mess, and I was crying my eyes out,

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and you know, finally I was kind of getting a

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hold of myself and I took my glasses off and

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I was cleaning my glasses and over the hill to

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the left, I hear like this.

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It was like a grunt, like a really deep grunt.

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And because I'd never heard anything like that, the way

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that my mind kind of thought of it was like

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a deer, a really deep deer grunt, but deeper, way

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deeper like, and I had a rest be kind of

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a sound to it, if that makes sense. And what

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I did was I wiped my glasses off and I

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put my glasses back on my face and I turned

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to the left and looked over the hill.

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And when I did that, I actually.

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It was such a shock to see what I saw

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because I had never in my life seen anything like that.

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And what I saw was a sasquatch and he was

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standing over the hill and he was looking at me,

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and it was weird because he had one of his

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hands against a tree, and he was kind of leaning

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back and forth, like just going back and forth behind

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that tree, just leaning and looking at me, you know,

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peeking back at me.

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I mean, he stood just.

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A little bit further out from the tree and was

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just staring at me. And at that point, like I

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kind of got this. It was like an eye lock

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with him, and I couldn't break this. This whatever it was,

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it was like almost like everything around him was blurry

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that he was almost HD like tunnel vision kind of.

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It is the only way that I can describe it,

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because I was in such a like I was freaking out,

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like I didn't know what this was and he was.

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It scared me to death. I'm gonna tell you, it

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was the most traumatic thing that had ever happened to me.

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And to this day it makes me kind of shake

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talking about it.

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It's scary. He was a cinnamon color.

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His hair was like had red in it and a

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brown brownish red, but.

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When the sun hit it, you could see like the

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red tint in his hair.

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He had full lips and the only way that I

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could describe the nose was like those eighty treasure troll

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noses on the treasure trolls, very distinct brow ridge, and

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he didn't have a lot of hair on the face.

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And then on the top he had the knot on

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the head, which they piled a crest.

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But at the time I didn't know what it was.

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I just I just noticed that he had like a

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hump on his head, and he measured after we went

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back and measured it at seven and a half foot tall.

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But as I was standing there and I was eye

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locked with him, I almost it was like I couldn't

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break this whatever I locked that I was in with

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this being I was. It was almost like I was

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so afraid to look any other way. I was scared

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that I don't I don't even know it was. I

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couldn't take my eyes off of him. And I knew

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that if I went in the woods behind me, that

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there would could possibly be more of whatever these things were. See,

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the only choice that I would have was to walk

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in front of me, which was back down the hill

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I came. But the way what he was, he was

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diagonal in front of me down over the hills, so

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I would have to walk past, and which meant got

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a little closer to him to pass. So that's what

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I had to do. And I finally got an enough

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courage to do this, and.

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I could.

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I could remember, like my legs when I would try

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to walk, it felt like my legs didn't work, and

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they were so shaky and tingly, and.

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That they wouldn't hardly walk.

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And I remember, you know, every step felt like it

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was taking an eternity to get past this being. And

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I remember turning around to see where he was and

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I watched him as he didn't turn his head, but

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turned his whole body to watch me, and he just

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watched me leave. He didn't try to do anything or

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follow me, but he watched me leave. And I remember

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I kept turning around, thinking I just just please walk

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the other way, just please walk the other way. And

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finally that's what he did, Like he just started walking

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the other way up the mountain. And I never felt

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so relieved in my life. And at that point, I

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started running, running down the mountain. I knew, you know,

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like I talked about before, they taught me not to

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do that.

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But when you're.

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Faced with a situation like that, it's sometimes it's just

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it's hard not to you know, it's it's fight or flight,

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and I was flying I.

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Was gonna fly down that mountain. I was getting out

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of there, and I remember getting almost home and I peed.

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I peed everywhere, I peed all over myself.

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And I was standing when I finally got home, standing

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at the bottom of that mountain, and my legs just

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felt like jello, like they wouldn't move.

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I was shaking.

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My body just felt just it was horrible, like I

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couldn't understand what I saw. I couldn't go home because

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I couldn't tell the kids at that point what I saw.

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So I sat at the.

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Bottom of that hill and tried to ponder on what

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all this was. And I remember thinking, I was this,

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you know, all the things that we've heard from were

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little Is this what they've talked about all these times?

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Like what it was? This?

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And finally when I did go home, you know, I

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had my daughter, of course, to watch the little ones

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that I got gain control of my motions and everything.

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And I started looking into it, and I got on

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the internet and I tried to figure out what was

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going on. And I looked and the only thing that

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came close to what I saw, and it was the

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Patty film, you know, and she.

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Didn't look exactly like the one that I saw.

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The one that I saw, he was it looked like

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a man, just a big, hairy man, and you know,

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he had the brown eyes and like I couldn't see

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the teeth or anything, but he just looked like a big, muscular,

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giant man. And I always say, you know, he was

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it almost looked like he was like three and a

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half four wide, And I know that sounds huge, but

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he was. He was huge, like this guy was. I'd

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never seen anything like it. And but anyways, I started

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to try to figure out what this was. And I've

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gotten me an audio recorder and I set up some audio.

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I set my audio recorder up and I got some Yeah,

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I got some audio after a while of some sounds

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that I got, like screaming and howling, and I got

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on the internet and I posted it on like a

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couple of bigfoot pages and I was asking people, you know,

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do you guys know have you ever heard this sound before?

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And a team from Wild and Weird West Virginia had

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contacted me, which there who I'm associated with now, but

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at the time I wasn't. And they contacted me and

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they wanted to do come down and do an interview

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and take a look at the holler.

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Well, I agreed.

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To that, and they came down and you know, did

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a very thorough investigation and actually came up with a

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footprint and cassid that it's one of the clearest prints

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that I've ever seen. You can see all five toes

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and it was right down from right down in the haller.

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It wasn't at the top. It was down in one

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of the hallers that lead up to the power line.

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Because if you know anything about apple Achian Mountains, it's

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going up and down mountains constants. There is no flat

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land in the up lad especially down here in the

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southern southern West Virginia. It's just very it's crazy down here.

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But the terrain is unbelievable. But so they actually got

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a footprint down in one of the haulers and one

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of the researchers he had asked me, he said, you know,

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because that was so scared. And I toldally when I said,

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you know, I don't want to go up there with you.

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I'm too freaked out. I just want to stay here.

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I'll tell you where to go. And he was like, no,

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you know, it will really help you to come with us.

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You need to come with us, and so like he

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helped me along the way him and both of them did.

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And his name was Joe and Ron from Wild Miard,

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West Virginia. And they had actually talked to me about,

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you know, not being scared and said, you know, maybe

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he was just curious.

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Have you ever thought about you know, maybe he.

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Heard your voice and maybe he was curious. Maybe that's

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all it was. And he said, well, did he try

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to hurt you? And I said, well no, and he goes, well,

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then maybe he just was curious. And you have to

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think about that. You know, if he's staying hidden here,

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then you know he's got to know you. So you know,

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that really made me start thinking that, wow, you know

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these guys have been here, well, the Sasquatch have been

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here all this time, and we really just you know,

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we knew kind of all the old folks knew that

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they stayed so good and hidden from us that we

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really didn't have much of an idea that's what it

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was making all these noises, which I mean.

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We thought about it.

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It was the thought every once in a while, but

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not really you know, like we didn't really believe in them.

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Now when they left, I started on my own journey,

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and I started to investigate all this on my own,

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and I kept sending them things and you know, casts

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that I took and some of the audio that I did,

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and they were really impressed by some of the things

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that I got, and they asked me if I would

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like to be a part of the team, and I

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told them, yes, I would love to. So, you know,

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after that, I started going back out, you know, and

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for a while I was scared to get back into

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the woods. But after that, you know, I started to

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go little by little back into the woods. I mean

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I wouldn't go far at first. It was like maybe

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like a few yards in a first, and then back out.

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And eventually I got myself to you know, walking trails

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and stuff again. But it took a long time, like

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it really did, to get me back to where.

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I was able to go into the woods.

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Because, like so, once that you have a traumatic experience,

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some people can't, like some people just can't after they

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see something like that. But I was able to because

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you know, I always have to remember that, you know,

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they didn't try to hurt me. It didn't try to

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hurt me. You know, I was walking into their house

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and he was just like, Hey, what are you doing?

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You know, what's going on with you? But anyway, so.

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I started to really hardcore research and finding things out

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about these beings, and what I found out was they're

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not an animal. I don't think that they're an animal

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at all. They've got a language. The audio that I've got,

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they actually have a language of their own. They sound

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like they're taking a breath in sometimes and they're like

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speaking while they're breathing in.

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If that makes sense.

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They make the cooing noises I've got cooing on audio recording,

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the rock planks, the tree knocks, the water sounds that

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they do in their mouths, the whistles, the chest beats,

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they chattered that they chattered their teeth, what else'll see.

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It's just so many things that they do. I've actually

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caught like it sounded like them laughing on audio. I

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know that some people think that they're form of gig

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how do you say it, giganopithecus, that I absolutely do not. Yeah,

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I do not think that they are giganopithecus at all.

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The structures that I've found that they do, they do

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some very cool teepee structures. And one of the ways

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that I'm going they do it. They find like a

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really scar tall tree with a y and really high

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up in the top of it, and they will take

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these other long trees and in that why they'll stick

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the white part, the crotch of the tree up there.

465
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:53.599
They'll stick these other sticks in between these trees and

466
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:56.799
they'll make like these teepee little structures like that or

467
00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:00.079
not little big. The biggest one I found was like

468
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:05.279
twelve thirteen feet tall. They like to twist tree branches

469
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:07.759
around here like when they break, and they just don't break,

470
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:10.759
and they'll twist them and it'll splinter off, like all

471
00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:12.319
these little shards of splintery.

472
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:14.319
Well you know how you do when you twist trees.

473
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:17.119
But and they liked it, Like I found a weave,

474
00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:20.359
an intricate little weave here that they did. And the

475
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:22.279
way they did it, it was like forty feet up

476
00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:24.960
in the tree, and it was this limb that they

477
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:30.559
had pulled down against it the tree itself. And when

478
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:35.279
they did that, the limb had like two branches that

479
00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:38.640
they pulled around the tree and they twisted it toward

480
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:41.839
it almost looked tide. And then they started it was

481
00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:46.039
like with the ends of the little branches that they

482
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:50.000
taught right. Therefore they tied was actually like little intricate

483
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:53.599
weaves and designs, and it was absolutely beautiful. And then

484
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.200
they'll do these other little small structures that they'll lean

485
00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:00.000
up against these trees, and these small structures they'll take

486
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.680
like ten or fifteen of these little little not little

487
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:06.160
like six and sticks and they'll stick stick them up

488
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:10.039
against this tree like and only doing it like halfway

489
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:15.480
around the tree. And sometimes they'll put like these ladies

490
00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.920
rocks on these sticks that they're placing on the trees,

491
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:21.119
and it looks really really neat. Sometimes still do that.

492
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:24.759
They also stack rocks here too. I've found a bunch

493
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.359
of stacked rocks in the woods. Now I'm not gonna

494
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.519
say that some of them aren't human, because humans do

495
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:33.119
that also, but the ones that I found and the

496
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:35.960
places that I've found them, sometimes it's just really hard

497
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.599
to believe that a person would get back.

498
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:39.279
In there and do it.

499
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:44.400
The footprints that I've collected, the casts, I've got about

500
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.400
I think ten or fifteen of them, maybe a little more.

501
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.519
I've gave some to the team to put with the collection.

502
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:55.119
But actually doctor Jeff and Meldrum has authenticated a few

503
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.839
of those and Cliff Barritt and also he's got to

504
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:03.519
check out my stuff, and so he thought he bragged

505
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:05.960
on one and thought it was really neat. Now the way,

506
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:08.519
it's hard to get a good cast from West Virginia

507
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:11.480
because the terrain is so like the leaf litter New terrain.

508
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.960
It's just really hard to get a good cast. But

509
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:20.160
when you do, you treasure it. They love to stick

510
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:22.039
sticks in the ground, like a lot of the things

511
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.119
they do here, and I think it's to mark trails

512
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:28.880
and stuff, but they will stick these sticks in the

513
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:33.039
ground like everywhere. You'll see them everywhere. And then they

514
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:35.839
will like sometimes they'll lean another stick in one of

515
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:38.759
the whe sticks, like the sticks with the V shape,

516
00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:41.119
they'll stick another stick in it and just leave it

517
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.400
there like that. Or they'll lay the stick, the white

518
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:47.759
stick up against a tree on both sides. And then

519
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.400
sometimes they'll do that and they'll take a big stick

520
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.240
and they'll lean it up against both sides of a

521
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:58.000
tree and then take little sticks and put it all down.

522
00:27:57.839 --> 00:27:59.480
The big stick on both sides.

523
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:05.839
So they do that also, and I found that most

524
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:09.960
of the tree breaks, like if they're really large tree breaks,

525
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:14.160
they'll lead to like large water sources. And then I

526
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:18.000
found like, if you find these smaller tree breaks, they

527
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:21.720
usually lead to like smaller streams or like smaller water

528
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.839
sources like springs or natural springs or small ponds and

529
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.680
stuff like that. So I thought that was really interesting.

530
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:32.279
Let's see, But now I found like one of my

531
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.559
favorite structures that they'll do is when a big giant

532
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:39.839
tree will fall and it makes like this divot in

533
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.000
the ground where the roots used to be, and they'll

534
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:47.000
take these big long sticks and they'll lay them from

535
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.279
the bottom of the on the ground right before the whole,

536
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:54.640
and they lay them up against the root. And it

537
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.039
makes when they do that and they all these sticks

538
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:01.000
up against it, and then they'll start throwing east on it.

539
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.680
It makes like this perfect little blind or this little

540
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.079
little hole for them to crawl back up the in.

541
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.200
And I've seen that numerous amounts of times that they do.

542
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.319
And I also found that they use creeks and streams

543
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.359
as like highways to get to point A and B.

544
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:22.839
And especially in the Appalachian Mountains, they absolutely love to

545
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:26.200
run up and down these streams because usually one of

546
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.480
these streams will lead to the next holler. So from

547
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.480
these creeks and these streams. They can get anywhere they

548
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.480
want in southern West Virginia and not be seen. And

549
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.200
I've noticed also that the lakes. They absolutely love staying

550
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:43.759
around the lakes around here. I find a lot of

551
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:48.960
evidence around lakes. I think that's honestly all I've got.

552
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:54.920
Yeah, I think that's about it.

553
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.720
You definitely live in an area that sounds like it's

554
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:02.279
extremely active, and I believe the way that you you

555
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.960
you explained it to me in one of your emails,

556
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:09.240
is that it's not just bigfoot in the area. There's

557
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.960
a lot of weird stuff that happens, yeah, in this

558
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:16.839
area and almost kind of like a skinwalker ranch type setup.

559
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:20.359
And I can definitely get that from from things that

560
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:23.759
you've told me so far. When you had your visual

561
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:28.000
sighting and you were actually able to you know, you

562
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:32.680
weren't breaking eye contact, which that's that's incredible. Was there

563
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.519
any emotion to the bigfoot at all when you were

564
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:37.720
looking at its face?

565
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.799
It was almost, you know, it was almost like empathy,

566
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.119
like like it was almost like that it felt like

567
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.160
I was it knew I was hurting. And it was

568
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.039
weird because at the time, like I almost noticed I

569
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:57.400
noticed that, but I was so scared that I didn't care,

570
00:30:57.519 --> 00:30:59.640
you know, I just I'd never seen anything like that,

571
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:02.839
and it scared me. It was it was the most

572
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:08.039
traumatic experience I'd ever had. And yeah, the you know,

573
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:12.200
and it was weird because it had human emotion, like

574
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.440
and that's when I started to do my research.

575
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:15.480
That's another thing.

576
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:21.519
That I kept hearing people talk about how they're just animals,

577
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:23.440
they're just this or just that. But you know, as

578
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:27.000
I'm getting like the sandwich chatter and then language and

579
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:32.359
mouth clicks and pops and mouth swishes, and I'm getting

580
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:36.359
like tree language even like the little glitch on the

581
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.759
ground and all this other weird stuff like that's intelligent.

582
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:42.720
And not only that, but like I when I.

583
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:46.359
Was listening to my audio, I heard, like this, a juvenile,

584
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.799
like one of the little juveniles, like say something.

585
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:50.920
Then one of the big ones like it almost it

586
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:55.599
was a laugh. Like that. That's intelligence.

587
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.039
You know, It's not just they're not just these things

588
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.720
that I'm just a dumb animal.

589
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:03.640
There's very smart.

590
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:09.240
Very very smart from things I've heard over the years.

591
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:14.519
And actually I can say now things i've experienced. I've

592
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.160
not had a visual but i've experienced some weird stuff.

593
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.440
There's definitely an intelligence there, something that can respond if

594
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.960
you verbally say hey, are you there, can you do something?

595
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:30.279
And then it does it right, does something that's there's

596
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.440
some intelligence there and definitely in the way that you're

597
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.920
experiencing as well. I do wannestay. You mentioned friends Joe

598
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.440
and Ron. They're great guys. Talk to them. They are

599
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.599
super super guys. And I know we'll have lots of

600
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.960
really good link links in this show because you've been

601
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:51.440
on I believe you've been in some of the Small

602
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.759
Town Monsters shows that Joe and Ron have.

603
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.119
Out right, Yes, paranormal horizons, Yeah, there were, Yeah, there's

604
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:01.920
three of them, and I'll write them down.

605
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:03.880
I always forget because the.

606
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:07.319
Names of them are so similar, and the names of

607
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:12.359
them are the Sasquatch Mountain of Madness, Sasquatch Unleashed, and

608
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.880
Mystery Lights and Sasquatch Holler. And I was actually on

609
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.279
Small Town Monsters also just Thirst, which is the Mountain

610
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.839
State edition and it's called What's in Those There Woods.

611
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.880
I also did a podcast on the Crypted Quest Bigfoot

612
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.799
Hollers in West Virginia, and it's you know, and the

613
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.480
reason I guess the reason why I want to do

614
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:37.599
these podcasts that I and I want to talk to

615
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.119
people about this is because, you know, I get I

616
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:46.440
get so tired of hearing the giganopithecus theory and hearing

617
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.559
them treat the Sasquatch as if they're just these monkeys

618
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:52.880
running around not knowing what they're doing in the mountains,

619
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.039
when there's a reason why you don't see them.

620
00:33:56.720 --> 00:34:03.240
You know, absolutely, I mean, they have got to be

621
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:06.759
the best, I mean, the the best I had and

622
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:10.039
go seek for sure. It's and it's wild too. It's

623
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.199
not just way out in the woods. It's it's on

624
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:16.280
the outskirts of civilization. As it the towns start to

625
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.280
go into the woods, we're starting to find that out as.

626
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.199
Well, that you was talking about, on the outskirts of civilization.

627
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:28.440
And I've noticed that a lot of national and state parks,

628
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:32.239
like that's where most of these things are at, like

629
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:37.039
these national parks, state parks, these these recreation national recreation centers,

630
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:41.320
like the lakes, the county recreation places the Lakes, isn't

631
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:44.360
that And sometimes I wonder if they go there because

632
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.719
they know there's no hunting there, or because you know,

633
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:49.639
like there's there's got to be a reason why that

634
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:54.119
they're always always right there in the areas more than

635
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:54.880
anywhere else.

636
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:02.800
It is some it is some weird weird things for sure.

637
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:07.920
After you, after you started getting more and more into

638
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:10.199
this and you know, you had your visual sighting and

639
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:14.840
then other things happen as well, did you notice that

640
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.960
this affected you when you would go back to your

641
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:20.840
home or did it seem like, you know, the bigfoot

642
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:25.800
stuff would stay out in the woods.

643
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:30.239
They following me, like they threw rocks on top of

644
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:34.440
the house. They'll slap the walls, which you know what

645
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.159
I think of it as now you've heard of ding

646
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.239
dong ditch, right, how the kids will run up and

647
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:41.000
they'll ring the doorbell and they'll run off.

648
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:41.679
Yeah, we have that.

649
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:45.639
Think of it as yeah, think of it as their juveniles,

650
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.360
these small guys, right, they have nothing else to do.

651
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:51.679
They're bored in the woods and one of mess with humans.

652
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.400
What they're doing is they're running up, slapping the house

653
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:55.239
and running off.

654
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:56.639
It's nothing malicious.

655
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.840
And you'll hear people get on there and very freaked

656
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.559
out about this, and I'm like, oh my, this it's

657
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.159
the end of the world that I know, it's just

658
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:09.159
a game they're playing. And they'll like when they throw

659
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:12.360
rocks at the top of the house. I mean last year,

660
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:14.760
I got in my gutter and I got like probably

661
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.480
two hundred bu of stones out of my gutter. I mean,

662
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:20.639
it's just little things that they do. Or they'll they'll

663
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.840
just go in the right on the edge of my property,

664
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.840
right where the trees are, and they'll shake the trees.

665
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.320
You can see the tops of the tree shaken. Or

666
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:31.000
they'll make some try to imitate some and they're good

667
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:34.519
at that. They like to imitate owls a lot. And

668
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.800
you know, because I've been out here so long listening

669
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.199
and I've taught myself to.

670
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:42.480
Here are things other people don't hear.

671
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:46.960
I guess because I'm always listening for things, and I

672
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:49.760
can tell kind of the difference when they're trying to

673
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.000
imitate something, or when it's a real owl, or when

674
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.199
they're trying to imitate even there's so many different things

675
00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:58.800
that they imitate, you know, I've learned, and a lot

676
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:02.320
of researchers don't know this, but I have actually learned

677
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:04.639
from listening to my audio and finding the evidence from

678
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:08.840
it that they'll take a stick and they will take

679
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:13.079
one of those the hye shaped trees with the crotch

680
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.400
trees where they'll take the stick and they'll beat it

681
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.039
in between it real hard and they'll make it sound

682
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.119
like a woodpecker. And I found this out because when

683
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:24.280
I was when I had my audio placed out in

684
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:28.519
the woods, they actually did this near my audio recorder

685
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.880
and I found the tree that they were hitting in

686
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.840
between it. Both sides were scratched up and the tree

687
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.480
stuck in the ground right the side of it. So

688
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:39.679
and it didn't sound like you can tell kind of

689
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.760
the difference when you listen to the audio. It's you

690
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.440
can hear it sounds like a woodpecker, but it doesn't

691
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:47.400
sound like a woodpeir like you can hear.

692
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:48.320
That's a little bit off.

693
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:50.599
But for a normal person that's out in the woods

694
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.360
and they hear them like, okay, woodpepper. So it's just

695
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:59.360
little things they people don't realize there's more things that

696
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:00.840
they will mimic.

697
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:04.559
Then you know they're really good at that.

698
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:08.159
It sounds like you're using probably normal types of audio

699
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:12.679
recorders in your research. Are you using any any devices

700
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:16.719
that might not be conventional maybe on on the fringes,

701
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:18.679
I know if you're hanging out with Joe and Ron,

702
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:22.119
you're probably you might have access to some some cool

703
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.320
toys out in the field.

704
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.000
Yeah, we've we've about used about everything.

705
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.960
Now they have found out that there are there is

706
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.280
a small amount of radiation comes from footprints.

707
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:36.000
So I thought that was really cool.

708
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:39.079
Like when they had found some of the plants in

709
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:42.400
the ground, they actually put the Geiger counter next to

710
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:45.920
it and it had the rings, So I thought that

711
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:46.599
was really neat.

712
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:49.239
But speaking of which, you know, even down here.

713
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.119
Like like it's very there's a lot of I didn't

714
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.519
I didn't talk about this because I wanted to kind

715
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:58.119
of focus on sasquatch. But you know, down in this area,

716
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:02.599
it's very paranormal. It's you know, there's been UFOs. I

717
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:05.119
actually on my YouTube channel, I recorded quite a bit

718
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:09.320
of them forbes. UFOs just all kind of an angel

719
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:10.960
in my graveyard on my game camera.

720
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.199
I actually captured it looks just like an angel.

721
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:17.079
Before I stopped recording the sasquatch, like because I won't

722
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:20.400
try to record them anymore. It's pointless, like it just

723
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:22.760
makes them any You know, when you get to a

724
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.760
certain point in your research, you start realizing things and

725
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:28.039
I noticed that every time that I would try to

726
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.960
record them, put game cameras up or try to mess.

727
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:31.880
With them like that, they'd leave.

728
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.840
If I want to learn about them, the best thing

729
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.760
to do is or if anybody does, stay away from

730
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:41.960
the like the visual recorders, anything with visual trying to

731
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.800
record them like that. Now audio they don't mind so much,

732
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.840
but if you try to get them on video, they're

733
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:50.679
just gonna leave and they're not gonna give you anything.

734
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.079
And the best thing that I could tell anybody trying

735
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.519
to figure out what's going on on your property is

736
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.199
to go buy some audio recorders because they'll tell you

737
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:00.000
a lot.

738
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:02.440
More than what the visual will.

739
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:05.199
And there's a lot of paranormal Sorry I got off tracks.

740
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:07.719
There's a lot of paranormal in the holler, like all

741
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:11.679
kinds of orbs, Like if you watch the Small Town Monsters,

742
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:14.360
we were Me and Eli were seeing orbs all over

743
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:19.400
the holler, like it's just very very supernatural. And they

744
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.480
do call it the little Skinwalker Ranch of West Virginia.

745
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:24.800
Southern West Virginia because there's so much going on here,

746
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:26.840
like it's just it's unbelievable.

747
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:31.800
I remember talking to them a few years ago and

748
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:37.039
the radiation thing came up. Then have you found that

749
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:41.159
that's just associated with the track itself in the in

750
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:44.679
the ground or is that also associated with casts as well.

751
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:48.440
Now I've not got to buy me Giger.

752
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:49.719
Counter yet, Okay, gotcha.

753
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.760
So anytime that they're down here and we do research,

754
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.840
you know, we find things out like that together. But

755
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.920
like I mainly stick to you know, the best thing

756
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:06.360
that have for me is the less equipment that I use,

757
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:09.639
the better evidence I can collect, to be quite honest,

758
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:12.199
and I know that that sounds crazy, but like the

759
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.760
audio is about as much as I use anymore. I

760
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:17.639
mean I used to use the game camera, and I

761
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.559
used to use Now I do have like a parabolic mic,

762
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:23.280
which I use that a lot, and I do have

763
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:25.360
like night vision and stuff like that.

764
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:30.079
But honestly, like you use this, if I go out, I.

765
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.079
I get using my night vision, they know something's going on.

766
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:35.840
They can see me that they know before I walk

767
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:37.239
in them woods. They know I'm already there.

768
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.519
I've got this weird thing on my eyes glow and

769
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.400
they're not gonna like stick around to see that if

770
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.320
I go in there and just me being me and

771
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.840
doing what I do they're more apt to want to

772
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.119
kind of stay close and they're not going to try

773
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:56.559
to flee. And so the best evidence that I've ever

774
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.039
got was with my audio or just being out in

775
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.079
woods with them without anything.

776
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.360
So you just mentioned being out out in the woods.

777
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.440
Are you one that takes the approach more of go

778
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:14.320
to an area and just kind of sit down and

779
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.800
see what happens, or are you actually, you know, going

780
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:20.119
out finding an area and maybe hitting sticks on trees

781
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:20.679
and et cetera.

782
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:24.039
Nope, No, no hitting sticks on trees.

783
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:24.480
Now.

784
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.119
I used to do all that when I first started.

785
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:31.239
They know what's you know, they know they know what's you.

786
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.000
When you go out there and you start beating on

787
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.400
trees and start whooping and all this stuff.

788
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:41.440
They're probably you know, I don't know that they're doing this.

789
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:43.480
They're probably just sitting there when what in the world

790
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:44.400
is wrong with that person?

791
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.880
You know. But I don't do any of that. I'll

792
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.360
go out out in the woods.

793
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.599
I'll sit in nature, you know, I'll speak softly, sometimes

794
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:56.480
I'll sing. Sometimes I'll bring like a little tiny set

795
00:42:56.480 --> 00:43:00.039
of hand drums or or something small like that, and

796
00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.039
just you know, just sit out there with them and

797
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:09.000
talk and seeing, and I found that there's there are

798
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.039
ones that are not so good, and there's ones that

799
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.360
are are pretty cool.

800
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:18.400
You know what I mean. But my advice is to

801
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:19.000
be safe.

802
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.880
Like I don't want to tell anybody to go somewhere

803
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.079
and just wander out there and start doing all this.

804
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:27.559
You know, there are bad ones out there, and I

805
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.679
don't want to get anybody hurt. I went out and

806
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:33.079
I was casting a print one time I found in

807
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:35.000
the bottom of a ravine, and it's the best I

808
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:36.760
have a picture of. It's the best print that I

809
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.400
had ever seen in my life. Like like, if I

810
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:41.559
would have been able to cast this, it would have

811
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:46.159
been absolutely amazing. But when I got down there, it

812
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:48.440
was getting dark and I didn't have my plaster with me,

813
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.440
so I had to walk back up the mountain get

814
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:55.360
my plaster and then try to walk down before it

815
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:55.920
got dark.

816
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:57.559
But I didn't quite make it.

817
00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.079
And it was I was down in the bottom of

818
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.199
the ravine and it was really dark, and it wasn't

819
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.400
really dark. It was getting dark and I had just

820
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:09.599
poured the plaster in that track and I have stepped about.

821
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:12.320
I don't even know how far.

822
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.159
I'm not good measuring measuring things in my mind, but

823
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.320
I think it was like maybe maybe fifty feet away

824
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:20.880
from it. And as soon as I stepped away, a

825
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:25.239
giant tree fell on that cast. And then I heard

826
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.440
whooping up on the right side of me, and then

827
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:29.880
on the very top of the other side of the

828
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:33.599
band band of tree knocks, and I was I was

829
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.039
flanked and followed out with little stones and stuff.

830
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.239
I tossed me the whole time, all the way out.

831
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:43.840
And so like sometimes you know, you take to anything

832
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.360
you do, you take a chance on it. I don't

833
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.559
want to deter people from nature, because nature is amazing.

834
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:53.880
Going out and just barefoot grounding is amazing. Being out

835
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.880
in the woods is amazing. And as long as you're

836
00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:00.280
not messing with them or try to train to get

837
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:05.480
their footprints, trying to aggravate them, they usually stay pretty

838
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:09.920
good and far away from you, unless they're curious sometimes

839
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:12.280
so they'll just take a peek of gander at you

840
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:14.159
and watch you.

841
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:14.679
A little bit.

842
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:18.599
But for the most part, they're usually not malicious.

843
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:25.159
Absolutely, I would I would think that most most accounts

844
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:29.400
I hear from witnesses, if they start, if you start

845
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.280
getting in trouble, it's because you may have been trying

846
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.559
to trick them in some way, and not to say

847
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.239
that's what you are doing, but I'm saying I was,

848
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:45.559
Oh you were okay, all right, fair enough, Okay, Well

849
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.920
there you go. Yeah, it's I wouldn't recommend. I've heard

850
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:52.440
a lot of really really not good scenarios that can

851
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:56.920
come come up when when you're trying to trick. So

852
00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:00.239
it's better just to I think, you know, and this

853
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.480
is just my way of thinking things, you know, just

854
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:05.679
kind of just kind of be out there, be open

855
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:09.079
with what you're doing. Have good intentions, although you can't

856
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:12.119
really force that. If you're a good person, you're gonna

857
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:17.679
have good intentions, right and vice versa. Oh oh, have

858
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:23.360
you heard anything out there like strange humming or buzzing noises? Okay,

859
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:24.599
can we talk about that for a bit.

860
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:26.119
Yeah.

861
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:28.599
Actually, if you go and watch hold on this truck

862
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:30.679
saying goodbye, hold on just a second.

863
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:39.280
He has activity on his property too. He lives right

864
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:39.679
above me.

865
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:45.880
When if you watch the Paranormal Horizons, we were out

866
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:52.440
there investigating and this strange buzzing sound. It sounded like

867
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:56.320
a swarm of bees everywhere, but it was like it

868
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.079
wasn't a swampye. It was like it almost sounded like

869
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:01.880
it but didn't, And it was everywhere, and no matter

870
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:04.920
which way you turned, it was everywhere. You couldn't distinguish

871
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:08.599
which direction it came from. And it was really strange and.

872
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:12.920
We couldn't come to any conclusion on what that was. Like.

873
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.639
It was just the weirdest and you know, that's not

874
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:18.960
the first time I heard it. And the crazy part

875
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:22.559
is it must have been happening my whole life up there,

876
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:26.920
because it took them going, hey, what is that noise

877
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.840
for me to kind of like, wait, what And then

878
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:33.599
as they was explained, I'm like, yeah, wait a minute,

879
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:34.960
I do hear that, and.

880
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:35.880
I've got accustomed to it.

881
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:40.719
That's been happening my whole life, So you know, whatever

882
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:44.360
this is up here, it's weird. And they tried every

883
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:47.199
which way to figure out what it was and they

884
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.320
couldn't figure it out. And that's not the only strange

885
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:54.519
thing up there, Like, it's just that this place. You know,

886
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.800
when I was young, they tried to shelter us a

887
00:47:56.840 --> 00:48:02.119
lot from all this paranormal and craziness up there.

888
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:05.280
They knew that this place wasn't right. When I was young.

889
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:07.119
They knew that when.

890
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:08.840
We got a little bit older, they would like kind

891
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:12.719
of throw things out, you know, out out to us

892
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:14.840
to try to beware of this or beware of that.

893
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:18.159
Because I ride dirt bikes and four wheelers and all

894
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.480
this other stuff all my life. So I was riding

895
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:25.320
up in the mountains my whole life, and you know,

896
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:29.480
they would always try to, you know, not directly tell

897
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:31.960
us things were up there, but tell us things were

898
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:33.039
up there, you know what I mean?

899
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:40.280
Absolutely, And I wonder if it was a thing where

900
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:44.800
they almost felt locked into the area where they're at,

901
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:50.400
you know, not most people. If you live in an area,

902
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:52.559
you got to live there. You don't have the luxury

903
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.280
of just moving because you feel like it, right, which

904
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.400
should make it even more exactly more crazy, you know

905
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:02.960
that have an issue or have a really paranormally charged

906
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.360
area and you're just locked into it and you can't

907
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.800
do anything, man right.

908
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.559
And not only that, but this was their property, you.

909
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:16.840
Know, like for generations, our families, for generations upon generations.

910
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:21.079
They're not just gonna and we're apple Appalachian people, we're

911
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.920
real tough people. Stuff like that is not going to

912
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:25.679
run us off. It's it's going to aggravate us for

913
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:27.039
a little while until we get used to it, and

914
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:28.559
then we just deal with it, to.

915
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.480
Be honest, And that's how you know, we were raised

916
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:34.400
to just deal with stuff and it'll pass.

917
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:36.199
You know, say the Lord's prayer if it gets too

918
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:40.039
bad or you know, like we were taught that stuff,

919
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:41.280
say the Lord's prayer.

920
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:44.400
If you say say Lord's prayer, things will get easier.

921
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:48.199
It'll go away. And like there were there were time.

922
00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:49.639
If you want me to tell you a couple of

923
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:51.639
the paranormal things that there, I can.

924
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:56.760
Real quick, just so it doesn't go away. So was

925
00:49:56.840 --> 00:49:58.440
the humming noise ever recorded?

926
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:01.760
They tried to record it?

927
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:04.719
Okay, it didn't.

928
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:08.400
You can almost like it's like you think you can

929
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:09.880
hear We think we can hear it, but I don't

930
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.800
think it was really loud enough for the.

931
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:17.280
Audio. It was it was like how you with hear

932
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:19.000
bees in the distance, but a lot of it you

933
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.440
can't really record that. It's hard to record that.

934
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:26.400
Yeah, I just just bring it up. There's a Doug

935
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:29.639
Hijack's group has been really looking into that recently. They

936
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:33.119
noticed that has a Yeah, it's a it's a pretty

937
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:36.400
big deal. Over the last few months and different researchers

938
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.920
from around the US are recording this. They're doing experiments

939
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:43.360
with certain a certain type of tuning fork. The sound

940
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:46.760
from the tuning fork has been replicated back to them

941
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:50.440
from the woods in certain areas that have high bigfoot activity,

942
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:55.480
which is really really interesting. That's everywhere from I think

943
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:57.920
the main place is Connecticut that's been going on, but

944
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.800
I'm pretty sure it's been other places as well throughout

945
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:04.519
the US, but that might be something to look into

946
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:06.599
as well. Chris ryan Hart has been doing a lot

947
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.920
of stuff with that. So you mentioned that there's been

948
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:12.119
paranormal things that have been going on as well.

949
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:16.599
Yeah, we've had the paranormal going on since we were little.

950
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.599
My mom has seen her doppelganger in that holler. My

951
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:24.480
aunt has seen her doppelganger in that holler. There have

952
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:30.880
been black shadow figures seen there numerous times. There's one

953
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:33.719
of the black shadow figures that likes to jump off

954
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:37.280
of the top of the buildings and run around the holler.

955
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:37.840
It's weird.

956
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:42.000
We've had let's see, when my mom was a little now,

957
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:44.199
when the railroad, when they worked on the railroad, they

958
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:46.440
had people from all over come over and work on

959
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:49.159
the railroad in the Appalache and mountains, and they were

960
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:55.119
Chinese people that were to work on the railroad tracks. Well,

961
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:57.599
when my mom was sleeping one night, she woke up

962
00:51:57.639 --> 00:51:59.960
to a chinaman standing above her looking down.

963
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:05.000
Now the house that that that wood that.

964
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:10.079
Was used to build that house was also pulled off

965
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:12.960
of a honted house to build that little house, so

966
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:15.159
that probably could have had something to do with it.

967
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:18.000
Also because in the big house they used to hear

968
00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:20.840
footsteps walking up and down the steps, and you could

969
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:24.000
all feel a person sitting down on the bed with you,

970
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:26.920
but there wasn't nothing there. And then they tore apart

971
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:28.679
the big house and built that part of the little house.

972
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:30.960
So I'm not sure if that had something to do

973
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:35.880
with it. There, my grandfather witnessed a wagon wheel that

974
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:40.239
was on fire that ran across the top of the

975
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:44.280
mountain and went down. The holler goes numerous amounts of

976
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.559
ghost like there is so I could probably speak on

977
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:50.800
this for hours and still not get done telling all

978
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:54.400
the true ghost stories in this holler. And they're not

979
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:55.880
just stories, their lives.

980
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:56.880
We've lived.

981
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:01.679
What people don't understand is we've lived and we we've

982
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:05.320
had to endure it our whole lives. And the things here,

983
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:10.719
they're not normal. This is not a normal area. And

984
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:12.719
there's got to be something.

985
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:14.639
Hold on.

986
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:20.679
There's got to be something drawing out this end. I mean,

987
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.599
this has got this area has got to be a

988
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:28.039
high frequency area. It's got to have something going on

989
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:31.519
with it. You know, we've got creaks and streams and

990
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:35.880
and there's six natural springs up in that hollar, a

991
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:37.599
lot of things.

992
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:42.320
To to to produce energy. It's just it's so paranormal.

993
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:45.480
I have tried and tried to figure out, you know,

994
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:50.119
why why is this area so active? And still I'm

995
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:51.360
I'm I can't.

996
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:52.239
I don't know.

997
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:54.519
It's just and you know, like the orbs in the

998
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:58.239
sky at night time, Like the other night I recorded

999
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:02.119
one that was just it was an orb in the

1000
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:06.280
in the sky, just blinking and I got a picture

1001
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:08.960
of it, and if you zoom me in, it looks

1002
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:14.159
like it has little lights all around it. It's round

1003
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.760
and it's got little lights all around it in a

1004
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:17.679
circle in the middle.

1005
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:22.159
Like these things are weird here. It just it just

1006
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.880
it gets weird here. And then in my house, like

1007
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:26.239
I'll be laying.

1008
00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.119
Here there watching TV or in bed trying to sleep

1009
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:32.440
and an orb just float right by, like the things

1010
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:35.719
that we experience. And you know, it's funny because we

1011
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:39.440
get used to this stuff. So any other person would

1012
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:42.360
probably jump up and freak out, but where we've had

1013
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:44.280
to deal with this all our lives, it's like, oh,

1014
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:47.480
they're in an orb, you know, like, oh there's an

1015
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:50.719
orb out there, or I just heard something weird about

1016
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:53.039
in the woods like and then we'll go about our

1017
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:55.360
day like so, so this is how we have to

1018
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:58.239
live our lives because if we wasn't dwell or or

1019
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:01.320
you know, get freaked out about everything that we have

1020
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:03.119
to encounter, we wouldn't have a life to live.

1021
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:05.159
It would be just living if fear constantly.

1022
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:11.800
Absolutely, so it almost sounds like, man, you're really investigating

1023
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:13.880
this just because you'll live there and you have to

1024
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:16.840
deal with it. I mean there's no way you could.

1025
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:21.559
You could, You couldn't notice it. It's happening all around you, right.

1026
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:26.239
Yes, yeah, Now the paranormal I do. I do investigate

1027
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:30.719
that also, but like that is why I investigate Penrmal.

1028
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.400
Now the sasquatch is a little bit different. The reason

1029
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:38.119
I investigate them is because I'm intrigued, Like you know,

1030
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:41.039
I want to find out the truth. And it doesn't

1031
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:44.280
matter what anybody thinks about me or says about me,

1032
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:45.920
or I don't even care if anybody goes to my

1033
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.000
channel to bequa once. I like that, But it doesn't

1034
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.639
matter to me because the truth is what matters to me.

1035
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:54.199
The data is what matters to me, and getting down

1036
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:55.920
to the bottom of all this is what matters to me.

1037
00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:59.159
And without disrespecting the Sassquatch people, of course, like I.

1038
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:06.800
Did, absolutely so just to talk a few minutes about this.

1039
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:09.360
So you have your own channel now, and so are

1040
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:12.440
you actively putting going to put up videos that have

1041
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:14.360
to do with things that are happening in the hall?

1042
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:14.760
Are then?

1043
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:16.400
Yeah?

1044
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:21.039
I have been like I try what void recording Sasquatch Like,

1045
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:24.480
I don't I when I go into the woods, I'll.

1046
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:26.800
Always say, you know, I'm I've got a video because

1047
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:28.840
like that, that taught me a lesson.

1048
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:32.679
When that tree came down and it crushed that cast

1049
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:34.400
like it was the cast was still wet and it

1050
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:35.119
just destroyed it.

1051
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:37.559
That could have been me standing over there.

1052
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:40.840
So when I'm recording, when I have my video recorder

1053
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:43.360
and I'm walking, I'll say, you know, don't get in

1054
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:43.800
the frame.

1055
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:47.480
I'm just recording your structures. I'm just looking around. Da

1056
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:49.480
da dah dah da dad that. You know.

1057
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.840
It taught me a valuable lesson about you know, if

1058
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.119
I was to walk straight and somebody's home and shove

1059
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:56.639
a recorder in their face, They're not going to be

1060
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:57.400
too happy about it.

1061
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:00.280
And I'm not doing that to them. And I could

1062
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.320
care less if I get a video of them. That's

1063
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:03.840
not the point of this right now.

1064
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:06.519
You know, the point of this is to learn, and

1065
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:09.280
I'm not gonna learn nothing if I shove a video

1066
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:10.039
camera in the face.

1067
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:12.920
But yeah, I am.

1068
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.440
I put a lot of stuff on my channel, like

1069
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:17.719
the I even caught a triangle UFO.

1070
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:20.639
It had three white lights and one red light in

1071
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:22.440
the middle blinking. It was really strange.

1072
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:27.719
And I've caught numerous of them orb things, numerous amounts.

1073
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:28.840
Of those I have.

1074
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:32.119
When I first started this, I did get pictures of Sasquatch.

1075
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:35.440
I think about three or four pictures of Sasquatch. They're

1076
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:39.880
not clear, of course, but I went there, and you know,

1077
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:42.840
I do research. I researched my stuff, and I'll go

1078
00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:45.119
back to the area and take pictures and make sure

1079
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:46.719
that that's not It wasn't there before.

1080
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:48.760
But I got on game camera.

1081
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:50.519
When I used to put my game camera up, I

1082
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:53.559
got a sasquatch stepping over a log and it's really

1083
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:57.440
really distorted, but you can see that he's there, you know.

1084
00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:00.679
And I checked the next frame and nothing there.

1085
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:03.679
Also, when I was driving down the haller, I got

1086
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:07.320
one that was hiding sitting down over a bank and

1087
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:10.679
his shoulders and head was up and it's blurry, of course,

1088
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:11.280
because that's.

1089
00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:14.239
All you get with him. And I caught him there.

1090
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.519
And then at the park where I was at, I

1091
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:20.679
was walking around telling how I set my audio recorders out,

1092
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:23.639
and when I panned the camera around, there was looked

1093
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:26.760
like a female sasquatch. You can see her body and

1094
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:29.920
it looks like she even has breasts and you know,

1095
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:33.559
a female body. And there was one more. When we

1096
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:37.320
were camping, I actually took a picture of something looking

1097
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:39.840
in the window at me and the kids, and you

1098
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:44.440
can see clear forehead and eyes, and I mean you

1099
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:47.039
can see the eye and everything, but it's blurry, of course,

1100
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:48.239
like all their pictures.

1101
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:48.760
You can't.

1102
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:51.639
It's hard to get a good picture now, the one

1103
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:55.079
good picture that I did get. You can see at

1104
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:57.039
the head, you can see the face, you can see

1105
00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:01.480
the eyes, ears and mouth, the hump ahead everything Now

1106
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:03.519
it is zoomed in a little pixlade, but you can

1107
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:04.000
see it all.

1108
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:07.280
So and I did used to do all that. I

1109
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:08.000
don't know more.

1110
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:11.320
I don't try to get them on video, but yeah,

1111
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.119
when I used to do that, when I used to

1112
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:18.880
try to disrespect them like that, I did get some videos.

1113
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.400
I even got one with with eye glowing their their eyeshine.

1114
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:25.719
And I've noticed with the eye shine it's not always

1115
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.079
a red eye shine. They can have red ordering eyeshine.

1116
00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:33.960
I noticed that the mother will have the babies to

1117
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:36.880
walk in their footprints, and a lot of other things

1118
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:40.719
do this too to avoid the smell, and a lot

1119
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:43.559
I've casted like quite a few prints with a baby

1120
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:47.719
print inside of it. And they had stopped gifting, I

1121
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:50.440
mean they stopped accepting my gifts for like eight and

1122
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:54.639
a half nine months, and when they started accepting my

1123
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:59.960
gifts again, I find these little prints inside mother's print,

1124
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:03.920
So that tells me that they carry also about the

1125
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.719
same time that we do, which I thought that.

1126
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:07.360
Was really cool.

1127
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:09.159
Yeah, like the same duration.

1128
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:12.599
Yeah, that's cool, and they stop gifting. I don't know

1129
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:15.920
why that they stop accepting gifts. Maybe for protection, like

1130
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:18.360
in case that it's tainted or whatever.

1131
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:22.480
Right, right, the pictures you were talking about, are those

1132
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:23.880
on your YouTube channel?

1133
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:26.079
Then? Okay, cool?

1134
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:28.199
Yeah, they're on the posts. I think they're on the

1135
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.880
posts on my YouTube on my posts. Some of my

1136
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:36.800
casts are on like the thumbnail and I put them

1137
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.039
on my page too. You just you have to look

1138
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:41.360
around for some of my stuff because, like I said,

1139
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:45.360
my main intention is not like anything other than getting

1140
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:45.800
the truth.

1141
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:50.239
And that's what's important to me. Like I'm telling the truth.

1142
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:51.559
Like I I.

1143
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:56.199
Can't stand here in people when they refer to them

1144
01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:59.159
as animals. It bothers me because I guess where, I've

1145
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:02.400
learned so much from them and being out there with them,

1146
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:05.320
knowing that, you know, how intelligent that they really are

1147
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:08.199
and seeing all the things that they do. When I

1148
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:14.320
hear people talk about, you know, just being a animally

1149
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:14.880
bothers me.

1150
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:22.400
I can get that definitely, especially after you've had things

1151
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:26.159
shown to you as you have with you know, Beth.

1152
01:01:26.239 --> 01:01:28.039
I just want to say thank you so much for

1153
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:31.800
coming on the show. And for sharing what you've experienced

1154
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.320
over the years and what's going on down there in

1155
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:39.079
that holler. It sounds like it's a really intense time

1156
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:42.159
and it's probably not going to let up. Stuff will

1157
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:45.519
still continue to happen, for.

1158
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:48.519
Sure, It most definitely will, and I'll keep you guys

1159
01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:49.440
updated on it.

1160
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:53.400
Before we go. Do you mind taking a few minutes

1161
01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:56.239
to remind people how they can keep up to date

1162
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:59.280
with what you've got going on in that area.

1163
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:05.400
Yes, you'll find my YouTube channel. It is Sasquatch and

1164
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:10.920
Paranormal in Wineberry. My name is Beth Dungeon. If you

1165
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:14.599
go on Wild and Weird West Virginia and you look

1166
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:18.039
under Wineberry, you'll find the very first video that we

1167
01:02:18.119 --> 01:02:20.400
did where Joe and Ron found the very first footprint

1168
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:23.840
in the holler, and it's called did we Find Evidence

1169
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:27.679
of Bigfoot in West Virginia. Also Joe and Ron's work

1170
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:32.000
the Paranormal Horizons with small Town Monsters. I did three

1171
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:35.599
with them, which is Mystery Lights in Sasquatch Holler, the

1172
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:41.440
Sasquatch Mountain of Madness, and Sasquatch Unleashed. I did a

1173
01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:46.039
little hour thing on the Cryptid podcast. It's called Bigfoot

1174
01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:51.599
Hollers in West Virginia. I also did with Just small

1175
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:56.159
Town Monsters the Mountain State edition What's in in There Woods?

1176
01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.239
And I appreciate you guys giving me the time to

1177
01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:00.760
do this.

1178
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:04.039
Thank you so much for coming on the show today, Beth,

1179
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:07.880
Thank you so much. Thank you for listening to this

1180
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:11.119
episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast. Every encounter we share

1181
01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:13.679
reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger than

1182
01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:16.639
we think, and that the truth is often hiding just

1183
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:19.800
beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please

1184
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:22.719
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1185
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:24.800
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1186
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:27.960
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1187
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:30.960
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someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd

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love to hear from you, so email me at Bigfoot

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Keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop

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