Dec. 12, 2025

Driver Spots Massive Sasquatch Standing Beside I-90 Near Snoqualmie River In Broad Daylight

Driver Spots Massive Sasquatch Standing Beside I-90 Near Snoqualmie River In Broad Daylight
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Season 1

In this compelling eyewitness interview, Offroad X Files podcast host and overlanding researcher Jimmy Toungateshares the encounters that changed him from an interested skeptic into a firsthand Sasquatch witness. Jimmy recounts a terrifying nighttime campsite encounter near Mount Baker and a shocking broad-daylight Bigfoot sighting standing beside I-90 near the Snoqualmie River outside North Bend, Washington—a location linked to multiple independent sightings. Drawing on his work with the Offroad X Files podcast, Jimmy explains how overlanding, remote travel, and modern mapping tools are reshaping Bigfoot research and why Sasquatch activity may be occurring alarmingly close to highways and populated areas. If you’re searching for Bigfoot sightings, Sasquatch encounters, Pacific Northwest reports, or credible eyewitness cryptid experiences, this episode delivers firsthand details you won’t soon forget.

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You're listening to BIGFLA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. We've

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got the privilege of talking to Jimmy ton Gate today

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from off Road x Files YouTube channel and podcasts. Jimmy,

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it's great to talk to you, finally, I've wanted to

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talk to you for a while.

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How's it going, man, It's awesome to be here.

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Jeremiah, I can't believe how excited I am about this.

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That's awesome.

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Our plaid shirts kind of matten in a weird way,

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they do.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, Listeners will have to check out the YouTube channel

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of version to see that for themselves. But Jimmy, you

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have been popping up and a few things lately that

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I like to watch, like Salish Sasquatch channel. You were

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in one of those at least one. And but before

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we get to stuff like that, you know, Jimmy, let's

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start with you know when I talk to people that

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are into the subject and it feels like you're you're

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kind of a researcher slash content creator yourself. But what

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brought you into the bigfoot field to begin with?

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Was? What was it that drew in? Well?

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I was really involved in hiking for a while until

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my had some health issues and had to stop hiking.

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And I'm a photographer, and so I was trying to

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figure out, like how can I still do landscape photography

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and get out to those same area And I was

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like maybe off roading or overlanding. And I'd getten a

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really big promotion at work and was able to afford

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my dream vehicle, which was a Toyota four Runner, and

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I got it all outfitted out and started going off

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roading and overlanding, which put me, yeah, there we go,

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put me out into areas where bigfoot are. But I

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wasn't thinking about bigfoot. I was thinking more about like

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the fun of off roading, the adventure, doing photography, creating content. Primarily,

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I was creating content for one of my Instagram pages

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for my forerunner's name is Buckeroo, so it's a Buckeroo Adventures,

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creating content for that. Hanging out with friends, camping and

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I went to off roading with a group of friends

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out near Mount Baker and specifically, well, we'd been out

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there all day and we'd planned on camping, so we went.

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There's a snow overflow park that's a big kind of

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circle oval gravel kind of thing where when the parking

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lot is full up ahead, people can park there. But

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there was nobody around. It was in kind of early June,

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and we got there in the afternoon. I had just

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gotten that rooftop tent. It was a Smitty belt Overland

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or XL so I believe it or not, that thing

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folded out to a king size plus bed. It's really big,

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you know, pretty epic. Had never really used it before,

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and I'd just gotten a annex that zipped into the

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bottom that covered the lyre that you climb up in.

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It was like a big tent underneath my tent, and

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so I was really excited to use everything on the

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driver's side. There's an eight by eight awning that you

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could pull out and it's eight feet by eight feet.

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It's about eight feet in the air. So everything was

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like really cool. We were having a good time. We

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sat around, drank a few beers, had the you know

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fire campfire eight supper, and we're all pretty much older

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and go to bed on the earlier side. So we

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went to bed like around ten o'clock, I think maybe

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ten thirty, and there was nobody else camped, you know,

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immediately by me. We were all spread out. So what

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you see there on the screen is like exactly how

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it was set up.

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This was on that trip.

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So I'm up in the tent and I'm asleep, and

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at about twelve thirty I think it was twelve thirty,

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I hear something that wakes me up. And I'm not

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necessarily a light sleeper. I sleep pretty good, but it

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was a lot enough that it woke me up, and

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so I'm laying there listening to try to figure out

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what it is that I'm hearing. And it's also pitch black.

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The inside of those rooftop tents are coated with aligning

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to act like a blackout from the sun, so even

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like in the morning, you can't tell it's morning yet

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it's really dark. So when it is, you're out in

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the middle of nowhere and it's dark, it is really dark.

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You can't even see your hand in front of your face.

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So I'm listening very intently trying to figure out, Okay,

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what is this sound? Is there danger? What's going on?

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And I realize that it sounds like if you're parked

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on gravel and you turn your tire, that kind of

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crunch sound. That's what I was hearing. And I'm like, oh, well,

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that's interesting.

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What is that?

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And then I hear another one, and then it turns

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into footsteps and it's walking around, so I believe it started.

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There's kind of a pile of dirt behind my rig,

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behind the driver's side, and that's where I started hearing

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the sound, and I hear it walk around the front

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of my Forerunner and it's walking very slowly, methodically. I

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can hear this every step and crunch I'm hearing, you know, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch,

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until it gets around to the passenger side of my

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vehicle where the tent door is. And then at this

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point I've already been. I'm like setting up in the tent, listening,

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trying to figure out, you know, it's this, you know

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what is happening. And so then I kind of transition

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to where the tent opens, where the ladder comes up.

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If you're looking on the YouTube channel, you can see

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the ladder inside the tent through the tent door. So

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I'm up at the top of that looking down because

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some of the windows are open, and I'm trying to

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see what is out there. Is it a person? What

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is it? But it's so dark, I can't see anything.

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But I hear something get to where that door is

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and kind of take the fabric in their hands and

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stretch it. And I was terrified at that point. I

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was like, I didn't know if it was fixing to

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come in. I knew whatever it was, it sounded very big,

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and I think I gasped at that point, and then

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it moves away. So eventually I was able to get

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back to sleep. I was too afraid to go outside

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to see what it was. I wasn't armed or anything.

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I just had a knife and so but the next morning,

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as soon as I heard somebody up, man, I'm down

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out of that tent and I'm outside asking everybody, you know,

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did you see anything last night?

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Did you hear anything?

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And everybody says, no, you know, I didn't see anything,

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didn't hear anything. So I walk around my vehicle and

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I'm looking to see, you know, is there anything missing,

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is there any footprints, anything, any evidence? Don't see anything.

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But then I realize where the awniness. I had a

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camp organizer hanging there, and I didn't see the camp

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the organizer there, and it had like tent steaks in

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the bottom, and I didn't really have anything else in

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there yet.

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I was just mainly hanging it to.

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See like it was one of the first times I

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was using it as well, to see like what could I.

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Use this for?

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But it had tent stakes to keep it from blowing

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in the wind anything like that, but it wasn't there,

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and so I start rationalizing and thinking, you know, it

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was somebody was a camp robber. Somebody just came in

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and they stole that. It wasn't anything weird, That's what

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it was. It was just somebody coming in to steal stuff.

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So I'm hanging out over at the campfire, We're having breakfast,

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and it's kind of a little bit more elevated than

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where my rig is, and I happened to look over

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and I see the organizer isn't missing. It's laying on

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top of the awning and it stretched completely out. And

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I sent you a pictures you can see what it

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looks like and how big it is. So this organizer

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is stretched out completely on top of the awning and

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it's is like eight feet up in the air. I

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had to get I'm five six. Back then I think

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it was closer to five seven, but now I'm like

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five six.

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Yeah.

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So I go there and I get the step stool

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that I used to put the tent up and take

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it down, and I pulled the aunting down and then

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I'm standing there trying to throw it back up there

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like if the wind blew, but I could only get

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it to go like a foot maybe two feet in.

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I couldn't get it to lay flat. So while I

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didn't see anything, I was like really afraid by what happened.

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But I really kind of think maybe it was a

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bigfoot just messing with me.

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Came in.

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Maybe I had never seen a rooftop tent before, especially

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one in that configuration with an annex or something like that.

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It didn't bother anybody else, and I asked around a

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couple different times. The people that were camped the closest

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to me I called earlier this year, and I was like,

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and so, like, this happened in June of twenty twenty three,

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it's not that long ago. So I called them up

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and like, you know, hey, do you remember we went

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camping up by Mount Baker. They're like, oh, yeah, yeah,

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I said, And You're like, did you see anything or

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hear anything that night? And the person I was talking

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to was like no, He's like, does something happen to you?

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Like did somebody do something to you or take something

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from you? And I said no, I think there was

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a big foot in camp and it was just kind

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of messing with me and some of the stuff in

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camp there. And they were like, oh okay, So they

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didn't want me to tell who they were. But so

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that was kind of my first experience, real world experience

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with what I think was with a bigfoot at that time.

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So that started. They started bringing back like memories and

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stuff from when I was a kid and growing up

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in the late sixties seventies. There was quite the bigfoot

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craze back then with the legend of Boggy Creek stuff

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like that, and I'd remembered my parents would tell me, like,

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you know, I could play everywhere. We lived on a

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cotton farm way out in the country, didn't have a

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lot of neighbors. I was a free range kid, and

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I just ran all over and played in the woods.

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But they would tell me, you know, be hung before dark,

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or the wooly Booger will get you here the Boogerman

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and then my grandparents would say the same thing. They

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lived way out in the country. So but at that time,

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I didn't associate wooly Boogers or Boogerman or Harryman with Bigfoot.

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But now I understand that that's what it was. But

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even like you know, that was kind of my introduction

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to Bigfoot back then.

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So did you grow up in the southeast part of

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the US then Central Texas? Central Texas? Okay, so yeah,

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that makes sense, definitely. Okay, Wow, that's that is is

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wild stuff. I mean, yeah, it can get very very

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intense when you're in a tent like that and there's

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something super close. Uh yeah, I mean you've heard the

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stories I've lived through. Also, it was a solo camp out.

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I was on in Iowa and something was walking around

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my tent. It just feels like you're, yeah, blood pressure

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is gonna just take you out. Man, It's wild. It

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sounds like you were in a similar situation. But was

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that was that a time? Was that what pushed you

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over the edge into like, Okay, let's let's focus on

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Bigfoot now, or was there something that that came later

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you were just kind of just getting into it.

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So it I've always been intensely interested and curious about

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the unknown. One of my favorite shows growing up was

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Unsolved Mystery. Still love it, Like I've watched all the reruns,

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reruns and everything. Love Unsolved Mysteries, love any kind of mystery, monsters,

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anything like that. But it wasn't and so it kind

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of rekindled my interest, and I started listening to some

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podcasts that I found and watching YouTube videos and stuff

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and kind of trying to figure out was that what

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it was, see if anybody else had similar experiences. And

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I know I was listening to your show recently, well,

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I've listened to all of your episodes except for the

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most recent ones, but I was listening to the guy

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that is an Overlander also an off roader in the

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jeep in Oregon that has had some pretty crazy experiences

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in his rooftop tent also, so I know that it

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does happen. It was the hook that got me kind

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of re reinterested in the subject and looking into it,

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but it wasn't the catalyst that finally pushed me over

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the edge. So that happened in November of last year.

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So it's been a year and ten days since this happened.

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So it was November tenth of twenty twenty four. I'd

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been camping. It was a week after my birthday, so

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I went over to Crescent Bar on the east side

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of the Cascade just to kind of solo camp, decompress,

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and actually just stayed like at a campground. I was

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also testing out some new overlanding gear and wanted to

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make sure, you know, everything was working perfectly before I

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go out somewhere very remote and had a really nice weekend.

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Was coming back home on Sunday. Traffic was really heavy

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on I ninety headed west coming back into Seattle, but

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before you get into North Bend you cross the Snowkwami

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River a couple different times, and recently I was back

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out there and realized that maybe the exit or the

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crossing that I thought where this happened wasn't quite the

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one I thought it was the one after. So it's

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the exit after the fire training Center on I ninety West,

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where Homestead Road is. I'm coming down I ninety. It's

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like one o'clock in the afternoon on a Sunday. There's

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traffic four lanes wide. I'm in the right hand lane.

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It's light rain, and I'm just kind of hanging out

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because I was tired of all the aggressive drivers. And

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I contend to be aggressive myself, and whenever somebody else

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is aggressive, it makes me more aggressive. So I didn't

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feel like any of that nonsense. I just wanted to

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continue the relaxation, and so I was hanging out in

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the right hand lane. But I'm always you can ask

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my wife. I can't cross a creek or a river

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without looking at it to see, like what's the water

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at you know, what can you see? And so I

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always I always look. And so I'm coming down High

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ninety West headed into North Bend, and I get to

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the bridge going over the snow Kwamie River and I

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look to my right and like seventy five yards off

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the Highway. There's a freaking sasquatch standing there, and my

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mind just kind of locks up and I was like, no,

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that can't be there. I believe they exist, but it

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can't be standing right there right now. It's the middle

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of the afternoon and there's cars and I'm thinking all

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of this. There's cars whizzing by, and it's just standing there.

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It's looking so it would be facing northeast. Its back

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was to me. I could see it from head all

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the way down to the to its feet where they

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were on the ground. It was standing on river rocks,

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so the big rocks in the river. It was kind

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of a cinnamon color, so reddish brown, dark reddish brown.

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It had.

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Very long hair hanging off of its arms. Its arms

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went down to right around its knees. But what really

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caught me off guard, Jeremiah, was the size. And it's

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unless you've seen one and you've seen the size it.

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Even saying how big it is, it really doesn't. It

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really doesn't come across. This thing was massive. It was

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like four and a half feet wide at the shoulders

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and it's just standing there kind of looking across the river,

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and so I'm wondering, like what's it looking at? Why

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is it standing there? And what is it looking at?

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But I only had, like, you know, maybe three seconds

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to take all of this, and as I'm driving by,

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and so as I drive by and I'm out of sight,

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my mind is still just reeling like and I start

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trying to explain it away. I start trying to rationalize

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that that couldn't have been that couldn't have been.

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A big foot.

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It had to be a tree or dead wood or

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something else that just happens to have like hair hanging

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off of it six inches longer. So you know, this

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thing was massive. So I debated on whether I should

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turn around and go back, but there really isn't a

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place to pull off there, and it's really a pain

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in the butt to get back to. You have to

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go a couple of miles down, then take an exit

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and go back a couple of miles and then circle around.

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And so.

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I just ultimately decided not to do it that day,

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but I knew right away I wanted to come back

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and take a look at it. So two weeks later,

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I drove back out there and went to Homestead Road

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exit where the fire training center is, and I came

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back around. I drove down the road kind of on

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the other side of the river, looking to see is

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there a place that you know, you could see through

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to see, you know, exactly where it was standing, or

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there any trails anything. It's pretty heavily brushed right there.

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It'd be pretty difficult to get down to the river

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from there from what I saw. So then I came

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back up and went really slowly back on. It's a

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very short exit to get back on I five or ninety.

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And I'm looking and I don't see any dead trees.

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I don't see any anything that could explain what I saw.

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So I was able to roll out the possible and

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what I'm left with is kind of the impossible. And

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that said, you know, there had to be a bigfoot

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standing there. So I went on another podcast earlier this year,

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and two weeks later I get an email from a

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guy who said, hey, Jimmy, I was hunting on the

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east side and coming back over and in kind of

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that same area, I saw bigfoot standing off the highway too,

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And he sends me a Google map and Jeremiah, it's

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the same place. And then I did an episode with

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a Flash of Beauty where they interviewed me about all

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of this, and somebody contacted me and they're like, Jimmy,

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I saw one in the same place. So there's been

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myself and two others have seen a bigfoot standing in

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that same river bed. So I really think that they

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use that as a point of ingress and egress in

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and out of the North Bend area coming down the

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snow Kwamie River from out of the mountains. But like

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it's private land on the west side of where the

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river is, and then it's like really difficult to get

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to from there. So but like why why why be

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standing there in the middle of the day just kind

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of looking around kind of it doesn't make sense, but

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I know what I saw, and that was the catalyst

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that gave me this intense burning desire to like I

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need to figure.

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This out now.

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Oh man, that is that is incredible. I've I don't

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know if I've even heard that on my own show

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where there's two other people that have had a similar

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sighting in the same exact area where the witness had

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to say, that's awesome. Yeah, it's like, yeah, there's no question.

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Three seconds super quick during that time, were you able

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to see did you notice anything about the shape of

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the head or what the face looked like, anything like that.

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Well, I didn't see the face because it was facing

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away from it. It was facing to the northeast and I'm

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headed west, so but what I could see is the

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top of the head, the back of the head, the

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back the shoulders. It had long hair, and one of

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the things that really kind of struck me, Like I

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spent an intense amount of time thinking about this and

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trying to recall every detail because it happened so quickly.

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But it's really quite amazing, Jeremiah, which your mind can

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capture in a split second. It can capture an incredible

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amount of detail that you can then refer back to

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and recall. So the head wasn't conical, it was more round.

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It didn't have a.

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Neck, So I think I might be related because I

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don't have much of a neck either. And some of

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the folks in the Flash of Beauty video didn't quite

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get that joke. They said it must be a tongue gate,

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and they're like, what's a tongue gate?

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Like, it's me.

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I don't have a neck either, But so I noticed it,

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like it didn't have a neck, it was just a

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head on the shoulders and it came down. The trapezoids

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were just like immense coming down into these huge shoulders

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and then the arms hanging straight down. The hair on

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its back was long, but it wasn't matted. And that's

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something that really stood out to me, is it actually

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looked kind of well kept. And I would have thought

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it would have been all matted and have you know,

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stuff caught in it and would look kind of like

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maybe dreadlocks or something. But it didn't look like that.

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And I don't know if it's maybe they because they

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spent time I'm in the river that maybe it helped

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wash that out, or if maybe the groom, who knows,

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But that was one of the things that really stood out.

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I didn't.

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The legs were like really big. It was standing flat footed,

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so really other than like the head, the shoulders, how

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big the shoulders were, the arms, the size of the legs,

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I don't really have any other details.

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Okay, okay. The whole thing covered with hair, you would say,

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oh yeah, okay, yeah, it was it was thick hair.

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It wasn't thin. You really couldn't see the color of

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the skin at that distance. You just saw the color

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of the hair, which was a kind of a sentiment,

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so a dark red.

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Brown, right.

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The size of the head. When you think of, let's say,

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objects in your house, is there anything that comes close

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to the size of it?

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Was no, No, not even my own melon.

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It was thinking about it. Remember, I'm seeing it from

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like seventy five to maybe one hundred yards away, and

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at that distance it looked like it was two or

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three feet wide, so it's probably quite a bit wider

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than that. And part, you know, right up close.

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Oh yeah, because that's uh, I mean that length is

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about what like three tennis courts.

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Yeah, yeah, that's that's pretty Everything was.

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Really big, and it's it's shocking how big it is.

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I was really kind of taken back. I went down

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to Margie's Outdoor store in Bench in Washington to interview

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James Shubski and in the store they have a big

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foot there with kind of like a measuring tape that

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goes up to like twelve feet and when you get

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to I mean this thing, from the distance I saw it,

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I estimated it was probably eight and a half feet.

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That is so huge.

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Man, it's like shocking when you're standing close up, how

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big something eight and a half feet is and to

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think that, you know, we get reports of bigfoot that

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go up to like twelve feet out there.

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That's must Yeah, at twelve feet or I mean depending

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on who you talk to and where they are. I mean, yeah,

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it could get higher, but yeah, twelve for sure. Those

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man in Oakridge, the people I talked to there, they've

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seen some big boys.

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Out in the woods.

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So when you're looking at you're looking at it for

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a few seconds, are you able to see any muscle definition?

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Could Was it very muscular or lean or could you

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tell anything like that?

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So yeah, it was kind of in between.

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It wasn't like Louf Frigno muscular, but it looked like

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it could toss a big tree, like very very easily

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with the size and the girth, you know, like the legs,

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the arms. Everything was just huge about this guy. But

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it wasn't like Lou for Igno, but you could tell,

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you know, it could definitely has a lot of power.

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It wasn't lean like a basketball player. It was more

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like on the well built, on the well built side

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of things, And that's wild.

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I just I can't imagine that.

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You must have just gotten nuts when you were getting

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those messages about like, yeah, I saw one in the

463
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:50.880
same the same area.

464
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.440
I can see the email from the hunter, so you

465
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:54.920
can see what.

466
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.240
Yeah, the picture, and then the other comment is in

467
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:03.000
the flash of beauty, you know comments, so it's available publicly.

468
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:09.440
I called my wife because you like, we talk about everything.

469
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.880
We don't have any secrets, and so I got a

470
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:13.960
little ways down the road and once I kind of

471
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.119
my mind settled a little bit, I called her and

472
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:20.359
I'm like, honey, you're not gonna believe what I saw.

473
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:23.799
And she's like what, And I said, I think I

474
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.000
just saw a bigfoot standing off I and hunting, and

475
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.039
she's like, no, you didn't see a bigfoot and I'm like, no,

476
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:31.319
I really think I did.

477
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:34.279
So I went.

478
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.599
From like being an intense believer to a very intense

479
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:40.960
knower in the space of like three seconds.

480
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:42.039
Yeah.

481
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:46.599
Absolutely, that's true. That's a that's a big difference. And

482
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:53.079
once you once you get over that.

483
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.759
That line, it really does change things.

484
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:58.359
So then after that it's just you're you're one hundred

485
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.880
and ten percent into it. And I mean I've seen

486
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.319
you're you're doing all sorts of cool stuff. You're doing

487
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:06.640
stuff where it's like, oh man, that.

488
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:07.799
Is really cool.

489
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:12.279
I would love to talk to you about you were

490
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:16.319
able to go on kind of an adventure trip with

491
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:24.680
a mutual friend. His name is Randy from the Bend area. Yes, right, yeah,

492
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:29.640
so yeah, definitely happy to talk about that.

493
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:35.720
So it kind of can I start with something that happened.

494
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:38.160
Earlier, because it's kind of all leaves the same thing.

495
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:42.519
Absolutely, So I had this intense desire to figure out, Okay,

496
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:46.920
what is this, but then also listening to thousands of

497
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:52.559
interviews on podcasts, also understood that it's a cathartic process

498
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.240
and people need help, and so I decided, you know,

499
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:57.519
one of the ways that I could help and contribute

500
00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:01.039
besides creating content, would be also to create a safe

501
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.160
space for people to talk about their experiences that happen

502
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:08.319
when they're overlanding, off road, disperse camping, things of that nature.

503
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.599
And so I decided to form off road x Files.

504
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.920
I was also a huge fan of the X Files,

505
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.400
watched all the reruns and everything, so I wanted to

506
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.640
kind of tie the two together and generate curiosity from people.

507
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:27.640
So that's how off Road x Files was formed. So

508
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.480
then I had to like figure out, Okay, how do

509
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:34.319
I get out and research. So I start going to

510
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:39.079
conferences and talking to people and making connections online, and

511
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.759
I got into a couple of different groups, and then

512
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:46.000
I started posting like little ads that I would use

513
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:50.519
chat GPT to create with a picture of me that

514
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.880
then it would take and turn into a cartoon with

515
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.359
my drone and my camera and my gear. I'm also

516
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.319
a professional fraud investigator, so I've been doing investigation on

517
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.680
a professional level for a decade with Amazon, and then

518
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.839
prior to that, I also did sales compliance investigations. So

519
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:11.160
I have about a good solid fifteen years of being

520
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:14.400
a professional investigator. And I have like skills that I

521
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:18.119
can offer through that how to build modus operandi and

522
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:22.920
patterns and how to figure out what criminals are doing.

523
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:28.119
All of that translates into research and tracking something. And

524
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:32.200
so I wanted to like make myself available and see

525
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.279
if anybody would bite. So I create a couple of

526
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:36.160
these ads, and I made them funny, like you know,

527
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.119
I bring my own snacks and I'll tell you jokes

528
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:44.039
around the campfire. And somebody bent and ask somebody else

529
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.480
that knew me, like, you know, what's Jimmy like? And

530
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.119
he said, it's a pretty solid guy. It's very you know,

531
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:53.480
intently interested in the subject. And so I got invited

532
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:57.680
to the Blue Mountains and that's kind of where it

533
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:02.119
started with my first big research. I'd been out researching

534
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.039
in the North Cascades, you know, kind of by myself

535
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:08.240
and with a guy I was researching with at the time.

536
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.039
But I go down to the Blue Mountains and I

537
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.480
met a lot of people there, and we went down

538
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:18.480
to the Paul Freeman site, and so I got to

539
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:22.640
know some folks, and through getting to know those folks,

540
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:26.519
I got invited to other things. And so that's how

541
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.039
I ended up at Mount Adams. Is I got to

542
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:33.240
know the Browns pretty well, and we've become really good friends.

543
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.839
We hang out a lot, we researched together, and so

544
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.640
I started going on these trips with the Browns, and

545
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.160
the Mount Adams thing was one of their annual trips,

546
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:53.400
and I happened to I was there for Thursday to Sunday.

547
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.400
Shane Corson had been there earlier in the week and

548
00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:58.240
I had just missed him. But he got one of

549
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:03.960
the best screams that he's gotten to date from anywhere.

550
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.160
So I know you've heard that. Yeah, Yeah, they showed

551
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:08.239
me that campground.

552
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:12.320
They showed me the audio pretty quick, and I was like, whoa, guys,

553
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:14.039
that's something wild.

554
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:19.800
So being out in the Blue Mountains with you, this

555
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:23.800
big research group, I made some good friends and that

556
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.840
helped me kind of get my direction set to where

557
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:31.079
it is now with researching with Sarah and Jonathan and

558
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:35.199
some other folks, and we've become a pretty tight group.

559
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:43.199
But we get out there and on Friday night, I'm

560
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.360
sleeping up in my rooftop tent. We've been watching movies

561
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:51.760
and I go to bed kind of on the earlier side,

562
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.880
but it's like, I think it was eleven, right around

563
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:59.400
eleven thirty, I'm laying there and I'm listening to a

564
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:02.840
podcast and I think it was yours in the tent

565
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:07.519
and I'm not kissing, but but I'm pretty sure it

566
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.480
was your podcast, thank you, because I had some downloaded

567
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:12.199
that I wanted to listen to. So I'm laying there

568
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:17.960
and I'm listening to your podcast and I hear ah,

569
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:25.360
except it's a lot louder and a lot longer, and

570
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.760
also sounded feminine, and so I like, I look at

571
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:34.199
my phone and I'm like, it's eleven thirty two. And

572
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.079
I'm laying there and I'm like, somebody has to be

573
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:40.639
call blasting. That's just too perfect. But the sound came

574
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.920
from back in the forest behind where I was, and

575
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.280
there's nobody camp back there. Everybody was kind of in

576
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:52.440
a circle around. So the next morning I get up

577
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:54.840
and I go around and I start asking everybody noticed

578
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:57.400
anybody call blasting last night. Nope, we don't do call

579
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:02.599
blasting in this group. So I started asking around and

580
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:06.159
two other people heard it as well, and so we

581
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:10.000
start pulling recorders trying to figure out did anybody capture it.

582
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:13.840
One person captured part of it that had a recorder

583
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.199
back in that area, but they didn't get the whole thing,

584
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:23.119
and then they hadn't cleaned up their files in years

585
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:26.400
on the recorder, so we didn't know which file it

586
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:31.519
was to get back to it. So like the next

587
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.079
day we're sitting there, me and Steve and some other

588
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.039
people are sitting there analyzing audio, all the audio that

589
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:44.079
we'd pulled from the night before, and Steve says, hey,

590
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:48.599
one of my buddies, Randy, his crew's coming through here

591
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:52.920
and there Overlanders doing a sasquatch expedition. I was like,

592
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:56.840
I got to meet them. So they come into camp,

593
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:58.880
and since they had a dog, they were down in

594
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:02.760
banishment camp because we don't allow dogs in the main camp.

595
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.440
And so I walked down there later on.

596
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.960
With Steve and he introduces me to Randy, and Randy's like,

597
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:12.159
I'm so excited to meet you. I'm like, how do

598
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:14.840
you know who I am? It's like I've been following

599
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:19.159
you on Facebook. Like, oh, that's awesome. So I got

600
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:22.760
to meet Randy and we sat there and talked hung

601
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.239
out for a good while. Then they came back up

602
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.800
to camp and we sat there and analyzed audio and stuff,

603
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:30.880
and then I ended up doing a whole episode with

604
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:37.199
him called Sasquatch Overlanding Expedition on my podcast, where I

605
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.360
interviewed him about that whole trip, how he prepared for it,

606
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:45.239
anything special they had to do, you know, what methodologies

607
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.239
did they use to go out and look for Bigfoot.

608
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:50.360
So it was like a really great episode for me

609
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.639
because I got to tie it back into off roading

610
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.679
and overlanding, which I try to do as often as

611
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:58.159
I can so that I stayed consistent.

612
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.360
Randy is one of the nicest dudes you'll ever meet,

613
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:05.840
and I was able to talk to him for a

614
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:10.840
few hours in person at Oakridge last year, which is

615
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.239
really cool because I've I've interviewed him a few times,

616
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:17.800
but it's it's definitely way better when you're able to

617
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:19.800
talk to someone in person.

618
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.039
You know what I mean. I'm going to see him

619
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.159
this weekend. Oh cool, you are. He's going to be

620
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.880
a fast Squatch summit. Oh right, yeah, that's yeah. My

621
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.800
friend Sleigh is going to be at that too.

622
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:38.960
So listeners, you'll want to check out that episode of

623
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:42.079
off Road X Files to get the whole story. Were

624
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:46.960
there any highlights from that adventure that you you got

625
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.679
into with Randy though, Yeah.

626
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:55.880
They had some interesting vocalizations, They had some interesting experiences

627
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:59.360
while they were camping. You know, there were very remote

628
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:05.039
and I believe they followed part of They did go

629
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:11.039
through part of the WA BDR Section one. So in Oregon,

630
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:15.599
Washington and other states we have back road Discovery routes.

631
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:21.400
So I've literally driven from Carson, Washington all the way

632
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:27.119
to Packwood on dirt roads and twenty five miles in

633
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.480
about eight hours because we had to make some stops.

634
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.239
But it's very remote and very rugged.

635
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:36.559
There's areas where you're like you definitely have to have

636
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:40.039
four wheel drive and lockers to get through it. So

637
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:42.800
it can be pretty intense. And they did part of

638
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:47.840
section one, I believe, but it's like, you know, there's

639
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:48.599
nothing out there.

640
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:50.639
You may not even see people.

641
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.719
During the summer, you will, but that time of year

642
00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:56.039
things are starting to wrap up.

643
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:04.360
Very very cool stuff. So is when I'm thinking of overlanding.

644
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.599
How crazy do these roads get out there? When when

645
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:11.920
you're doing a track like that, that eight hour track,

646
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:14.880
are you having to like go over boulders and stuff

647
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.519
or it's just really rutted out trails or.

648
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:21.880
It depends on when you go, like if you're talking

649
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:27.280
early July, the snow is just melting. It kind of

650
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.559
goes in between Mount Adams and Mount Saint Helen's a

651
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.840
Section one does all the way up to Packwood and

652
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:36.719
then you can go from Packwood to Ellensburg and then

653
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:41.480
from Ellensburg to Levenworth and then Levenworth to Canada. So

654
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:45.719
it goes start roads all the way to Canada. Pretty crazy.

655
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.480
It does get very rugged. You definitely want to make

656
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:53.519
sure that you're prepared. Can it be done in a

657
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:58.440
stock vehicles like a stock for runner? Yeah, their bypasses

658
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:03.239
for some of the harder stuff, unless it's rained and

659
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:08.039
getting really rutted out and then like you know, sometimes

660
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.199
you get through it, you have one person pushed through,

661
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:12.119
and then you start wenching people across.

662
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.159
Oh my goodness, I can I can't even imagine that. So, guys,

663
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.760
if this is like serious stuff, this is not like

664
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.519
you're taking your rental from the airport and you're going

665
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.519
out in this way. You're not doing that. If you

666
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:29.559
do it, you're not coming back alive. Seriously, Probably you're

667
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.760
not running a rubicon and going out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

668
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:33.840
you're definitely not.

669
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:35.679
Man you are.

670
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:40.800
You are pretty much almost I would say, like you've

671
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:43.400
you've probably gone through some crazy adventures to get to

672
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.480
the point where you are now where you can handle

673
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:46.199
stuff like that.

674
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:50.599
I'm guessing I've almost died. Yeah, a couple of different

675
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:51.400
times I was.

676
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:51.960
So.

677
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.760
One of the things I do is I'm a trail

678
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:00.639
guide and an ambassador for on X off Road. So

679
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.519
I go out and map trails and right guides for

680
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:06.719
them that are then published for.

681
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:07.559
People to go out and do.

682
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.760
So I go out to like some crazy areas that

683
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:16.119
haven't been driven in years. Old logging cuts and drive

684
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.239
down them to see like where they go. And I

685
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:21.679
was following one of my buddies who was in a

686
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:26.119
super cross track that's lifted, and we overlain together a

687
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:31.880
lot and we're going we're over in the Olympics trying

688
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.239
to get to Spider Lake, but we're not going Spider

689
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.519
Lake by the normal for service roads. We're trying to

690
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:37.960
go over a pass to get to it.

691
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:39.639
And so we're like.

692
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:41.760
Driving up the side of this mount where we go

693
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:46.760
through like this crazy brush area where I've got this Forerunner.

694
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:47.559
I just hear.

695
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.800
As the limbs are coming down pinstriping it. Yeah, yep,

696
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.599
it's really hard to hear, you know, like that paint

697
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:58.519
being scratched right off, but it's what it's for. But

698
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.480
we finally get through all that. We get up on

699
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.760
the side of this mountain and there's been a landslide

700
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:07.559
and Jeremiah, it's a vertical drop outside the driver's door.

701
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.559
I look over and like, you don't see any ground there,

702
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:14.519
it's just air. And so we get around the side

703
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:17.199
of this mountain where there's been this landslide and I

704
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:20.079
see there's this big mound of dirt and my buddy

705
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.599
and his super is driving up over this mount of

706
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:25.719
dirt and I'm looking at his wheelbase and I'm like,

707
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:30.639
he's barely fitting over that. I'm not sure I can fit.

708
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:36.320
And he's like, oh, you'll be fine. He's like, i'll

709
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:39.880
spot you. So I get up to it and I

710
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:42.599
start going up this mound of dirt and I start

711
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.679
to slide a little bit, so I just stop, kind

712
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:47.519
of take a breath. I put it in four low,

713
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:53.159
put it in a gravel mode, and then step on

714
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:55.599
the gas And as I start going up, my rear

715
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:58.440
and start sliding to the left, and I'm like, I'm

716
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.239
fixing the go off. So I just stomped on it

717
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:03.280
and I sent it and went flying over the mound

718
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.599
of dirt, got across, I almost hit his super rue.

719
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:09.679
We get up to the top where the pass is

720
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.039
and there's there's so much snow. It's like two or

721
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:15.880
three feet of snow at that point. We can't get

722
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.599
past it. So then at that point I know I

723
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:20.880
have to go back across that. That's the only way

724
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:21.360
back down.

725
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:22.119
Huh.

726
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:26.599
And I was I was shaking standing there and I'm

727
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:29.400
like on the radio, I'm like, I'm not sure I

728
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.000
can do this, And he's like, oh, you'll be fine,

729
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:34.679
I'll spot you. I'm like, okay, I made it across

730
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:38.320
it once, I'll just I'll do it again. And so

731
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:42.079
I made it back across. But like I called my

732
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:43.639
wife later that day and I'm like, you know, I

733
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:45.400
almost went off the side of the mountain. And so

734
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.639
now she tells me when I walk out the door,

735
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:49.159
she's like, don't do anything stupid.

736
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:56.199
Yeah, I still do, but that is horrifying goodness. I

737
00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:59.239
can't I can't imagine going through that, Jimmy. I mean,

738
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:05.320
I was a out. I barely got over what's what's

739
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:14.239
the pass from let's see, like come on Rainbow or again,

740
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.039
and then you go up north and then you sandym

741
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:19.519
passed that one. I had to go over that to

742
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.679
Subtle Lake and like that's nothing, probably compared to what

743
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:24.840
you're talking about. But even so, do you think all

744
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:26.800
of a sudden you're on these huge mountains. I'm like, oh,

745
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:28.679
my goodness, this is a lot crazier than Iowa.

746
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:33.360
But you should look at some of the pictures on

747
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:37.639
my Facebook page or the instagram of going snow wheeling.

748
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.800
We'll go out and drive on top of two or

749
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.679
three feet of snow and air our tires down man

750
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:45.960
and go camping. But I was up like it was

751
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:49.280
with another buddy and a Forerunner, and we're, you know,

752
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:54.199
maybe forty miles from Canada, out snow wheeling up this mountain,

753
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:59.360
going out to Twin Lakes area, and we're about sixty

754
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.920
five hundred up and the snow is getting really nasty

755
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:06.480
because they'd been raining a lot. And we start breaking

756
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.719
through the snow and hitting ice. And so it's another

757
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:14.000
situation where the passenger side is a vertical drop off

758
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.239
and I'm going around a bend on a mountain and

759
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:21.320
so I'm starting to hug the shoulder more and more

760
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.360
and it's kind of this way, and ended up sliding

761
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:26.960
into the little ditch there and getting stuck. So I've

762
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.079
only really gotten stuck a couple times in it, but

763
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.159
I was like really stuck this time. But I just

764
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:35.440
had a wench installed on the front end of my Forerunner.

765
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:37.679
So I called my buddy on the radio and he

766
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.960
gets turned around and he comes back and we hooked

767
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:43.079
my wench up to the front end of his Forerunner.

768
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:45.719
I sat there and winched myself out of that ditch,

769
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:48.039
and then we turned around and.

770
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:51.880
Went back down. Oh my goodness, you are wild.

771
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:56.360
I can't imagine that, dude, they get blood flowing Jeremiah.

772
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:56.639
Yeah.

773
00:46:56.639 --> 00:47:00.679
Absolutely, But like that's how you get to the big

774
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:02.400
foot spots, like exactly.

775
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.079
Yeah, you get out to places where nobody else is

776
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.320
out there and that's where they are.

777
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:12.920
Oh my goodness. So the on X thing, that's awesome.

778
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:19.800
That's really cool, man. I have so I love on X.

779
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.000
Not a sponsor, but I also love on X and

780
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:25.519
such a great, great app.

781
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:26.480
Everyone should use it.

782
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.320
I've tried for years to get a connection within on

783
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:36.440
X because for this reason, because I'm like, there's got

784
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:41.159
to be someone in this app business sphere universe that

785
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:45.039
has amazing bigfoot stories. Because they have a bigfoot icon

786
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:49.159
in on X that you can choose when you're putting

787
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:49.760
a marker in.

788
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.599
It's like someone's got to have a story. I just

789
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:53.599
haven't gotten through yet.

790
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:00.239
Being an ambassador, I also get to work with the

791
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:01.400
program managers for.

792
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:03.639
The application, and.

793
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:07.639
It was earlier this year. I sent them a really

794
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.559
long email and I'm like, I have a whole list

795
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:14.559
of ideas, like we should be at bigfoot conferences because

796
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:19.400
people that are bigfooters go out into these remote areas

797
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.239
and they need to know how to get there safely

798
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:25.320
and get back safely. And then I also think that

799
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:29.000
we should work with Matt from the Bigfoot Mapping Project

800
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:32.639
and we should add a bigfoot siding layer into on X,

801
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:35.119
so not only can you navigate out there, but you

802
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.440
can find where the bigfoot siding was reported and then

803
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:42.480
navigate to it safely. Because and this isn't a commercial

804
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.920
for on X, but they've also added like turn by

805
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.760
turn navigation, so you can be off road on a

806
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:52.159
dirt road and as long as you have selected your endpoint,

807
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:57.079
it will give you turn by turn directions. Even on muddy, dirty,

808
00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:02.000
rutted roads. It will say like turn in twenty feet. Wow,

809
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:03.960
And it may be a road you're even having trouble

810
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:08.159
seeing and then you're like, oh, there it is. Yeah,

811
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:09.519
so it's a great tool.

812
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:13.119
Yeah, that's solid. It is.

813
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:21.960
It is really man, great ideas. Yeah, really man. They

814
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.760
need to they need to get on one of the

815
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:30.199
Bigfoot podcasts. And I don't care who it is, maybe me,

816
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.000
wink wink, but they need to get on one of

817
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:38.360
those podcasts because, as you said, like the Bigfoot community

818
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:41.239
loves that app and like it's just it would be

819
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:43.920
so cool to talk to someone who really knows that app.

820
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:47.079
But also you'd be a great person to talk to

821
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:50.280
them for sure, because you like know the whole overlanding thing.

822
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:55.559
But I've been thinking about doing a video on how

823
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:59.840
to use all the different features that are built into

824
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:03.480
to be able to go out and bigfoot find locations,

825
00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:06.199
because once you have the GPS coordinates from a report,

826
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:07.320
you can get there.

827
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:09.320
Put those GPS.

828
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:12.320
Coordinates right into on X and then hit and navigate

829
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:15.960
and it'll take you from your house to where that

830
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:22.480
siding was. And there's also really important features in there

831
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:27.960
for wildfires to show you where current wildfires are, avalanche.

832
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.159
Slopes, snow levels.

833
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:35.360
They've now added the big three cellular service select AT

834
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:39.119
and T Verizon, T Mobile. You can go into layers

835
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:42.639
and select T Mobile and it'll show you where there's

836
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:47.199
voice or text. Oh wow, get into a situation where

837
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:49.719
you need to make a phone call urgently, you can

838
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:51.519
pull that up in the layer and see, okay, I

839
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.679
need to go right here to get a voice service

840
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:56.400
and make a phone call.

841
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:59.400
Holy macrol, I didn't know that that is? Is that

842
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.639
in the Was it the off road one?

843
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:03.239
Yeah? On ex off road.

844
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:06.599
I believe they've also probably added them to Hunt and

845
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:10.159
the high calso, but definitely an off road.

846
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:16.719
The other cool thing and I know listeners who are like, oh,

847
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:17.760
this is a great ad for.

848
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:19.159
On X, Well, it's awesome, guys.

849
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:23.920
So the other cool thing is, let's say hypothetically you

850
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:30.679
are going out with some people and and it's an

851
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:33.639
area where you don't know where you are. Yeah, but

852
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:35.760
it would be great if you knew how to get

853
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:38.599
back if something happens like to the you like, you

854
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.159
should probably know how to get back, right. So there's

855
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:44.599
actually a place where you can track. You can track

856
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:47.480
your route, which is really helpful. I use it all

857
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:47.880
the time.

858
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:50.639
So I leave with bread crumbs. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah,

859
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:51.679
it's cool.

860
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:55.400
If you look at my on X map, there's bread

861
00:51:55.400 --> 00:52:00.840
combs everywhere in Washington, like everywhere I go that it's

862
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:04.760
a dirt road I have track on and then if

863
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:08.800
it isn't already mapped, I'm mapping it also taking pictures

864
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:15.800
and then writing guides for it. So they are having

865
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.360
a sell right now for Black Friday, so it's a

866
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:24.320
good time to subscribe. It is interested if anybody's interested.

867
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:27.840
Also being an ambassador, I have a discount code. You

868
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:29.880
can just send me an email or reach out and

869
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:35.519
I'll get you the code. Also, they've recently added grouping,

870
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:38.480
so if you're going out with a group of friends

871
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:40.880
and y'all have on X and you get in that

872
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:43.679
group together and I haven't played with this yet, but

873
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:44.360
it will show you.

874
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:45.239
Where everybody is.

875
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:51.360
Oh, no way, yeah, Oh that's pretty cool. Yeah, I

876
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.519
need to look into that. Do you do they just

877
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:57.639
like release updates on Do they have like a YouTube

878
00:52:57.719 --> 00:52:59.480
channel or how do they release updates?

879
00:52:59.599 --> 00:52:59.719
Like?

880
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:04.360
How do you know all this Facebook, YouTube, Instagram? You're

881
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.360
like talk actively going out there.

882
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:07.519
That's pretty constant.

883
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.400
And then like we find out about stuff way ahead

884
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:14.320
of time and sometimes test it before it comes out live.

885
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:18.000
That's fantastic. But yeah, it's a it's a great product,

886
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:22.599
it really is. And if on X is listening, thank

887
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:23.039
you guys.

888
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:26.840
Another thing I wanted to talk to you about is

889
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:30.800
you were at the conference in Packwood, right?

890
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:34.840
Yes? How was that? So?

891
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:39.400
There's the conference in Packwood, the Legends of the Mountains

892
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:44.199
town Hall. Oh I think that Melp puts on if

893
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:45.320
you're talking about Randall?

894
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.880
I sorry, yes, okay, I was meaning to say Randall,

895
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:54.119
And so tell me about the conference at Randall, the

896
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:55.440
camp out conference thing.

897
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:59.880
Yes, So the conference at Randall is Sasquatch Beyond the

898
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:03.480
foot Print and I'm actually the host in MC for that.

899
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:07.280
I was incredibly honored to be asked to do that,

900
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:09.159
especially with how.

901
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:10.360
New I am to the community.

902
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:14.840
But it was so much fun, and I think that

903
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:20.280
this conference has so much potential with like especially the

904
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:27.360
camping part. And we actually have a planning meeting coming

905
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:29.800
up in a couple of weeks that I'm going to

906
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:33.119
with the East Lewis County Chamber of Commerce, so we're

907
00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:37.039
already actively planning next year. But it was great for

908
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:41.639
being a first year conference. We had a pretty decent turnout.

909
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.159
There's tons of improvements that need to be made, and

910
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.159
we're going to make those to make sure that, you know,

911
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:51.079
like it's successful going forward before. We're planning on doing

912
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:54.239
this for perpetuity and I've been invited to be the

913
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:57.079
host for as long as I want to be, so

914
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:00.360
I'm pretty excited about that. But we we had a

915
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:06.239
great lineup of speakers. We're already talking to folks for

916
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:08.960
twenty twenty six. It's going to be in September again.

917
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:12.719
But like one of the great things about the conference

918
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:17.079
is the ability to camp out there and hang out

919
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:22.320
with people. So there's campfires, you know, there's parties, get

920
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:25.159
to hang out with the speakers and get to know people.

921
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:29.159
But like, even if you're coming in from the East

922
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.840
Coast or somewhere else and flying in, you can rent

923
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:36.199
camping gear from RII and go pick it up in

924
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:39.280
your rental car and go camp for the weekend and

925
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:41.280
then take it back and drop it off to ARII

926
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:43.559
on your way back out of town. I know, you

927
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:47.360
don't have to get a motel. You can rent camping

928
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:53.280
garret ARII. Okay, that's I'm also actually huge gonna look

929
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:54.760
at you know, is there a way we can work

930
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:58.199
something out with ARII where people can order the gear

931
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:01.000
ahead of time, pay for it, and an ARII deliver

932
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:02.119
it to the campground.

933
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.480
Like that would be huge and you're making it.

934
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:12.599
Yeah, Like at and it's a huge property. So it's

935
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:16.480
a working a working farm, and where the campground is

936
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.440
I think is a couple hundred acres and so it's

937
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:23.239
really spread out. They had nice clean porta potties everywhere,

938
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:31.239
beautiful campground right on the River, the College River. They

939
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:34.760
had a five k race there, but I think it

940
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:39.519
was around eleven o'clock in the morning. I had introduced

941
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:44.159
Barb Choot and she was on stage talking and it

942
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:46.559
was transitioning that part of the day where it's starting

943
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:48.159
to get a little bit warmer. So I went back

944
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:53.000
over to my rig to change shirts, and I'm standing

945
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:56.280
there and I'm with my friend Janie, and.

946
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:00.239
I hear this. Ah.

947
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:04.400
It was like really loud, and it was back over

948
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:08.480
kind of where Mark Marcell was camped. But this one

949
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:10.440
was not Mark. If you've seen that video.

950
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:13.920
I watched that story where Mark marks.

951
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:17.400
Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, so but this wasn't him.

952
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.920
He was over at his table when this occurred. But

953
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.519
during the day I heard this really loud scream and

954
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:26.760
then you know, there were definitely codies in the area

955
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:29.760
at night that we got on recorder and stuff, but

956
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:32.599
we did hear, you know, some other kinds of vocalizations

957
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:35.880
that we can explain. It's definitely it's in a super

958
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:39.960
squatchy area. It's in the triangle. So there's a triangle

959
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:45.400
from Mount Saint Helens, Mount Rainier, Mount Adams and Randall's

960
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:51.039
right in that triangle. So there have been reports. I

961
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:55.920
think there have been forty reports right around Randall since

962
00:57:56.280 --> 00:58:02.400
the late eighteen hundreds, and those are credible reports. So

963
00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:09.519
it's an active area. But the conference itself, it has

964
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:12.679
a huge amount of potential. I'm really excited about it,

965
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:16.840
and I'm really excited to get to planning twenty twenty

966
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:19.320
six here in a couple of weeks.

967
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:22.559
Yeah, that I heard nothing but good things about that.

968
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:23.679
Oh good.

969
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:26.920
That podcast is art about that conference because I was

970
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:32.239
my buddy Jonathan Easley was I believe he was there. Yes,

971
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:36.400
he was one of the speakers. Yes, and he told

972
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:38.440
me all about it and it sounded like a really

973
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:42.159
really good time. So did you also go then to

974
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:43.639
the Packwood Town Hall?

975
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:44.639
Yes?

976
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:47.480
Oh man, that must have been incredible the stuff you

977
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:47.960
heard there.

978
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:52.519
Yeah, that was that was pretty neat. That's where I

979
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:55.719
sat down with with Breton Joe and he interviewed the

980
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:59.360
Flashy Beauty that I did. There was a great little

981
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:01.519
venue at the I believe it's.

982
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:02.480
The Long Maar Brewery.

983
00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:10.119
Tasty Tasty said, had a couple of beers, nice little venue,

984
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:14.079
good time of year, a lot of great presentations.

985
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:15.360
It was good.

986
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.760
It's more of a on the smaller side, which is

987
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:22.599
nice rather than you know, like a big conference.

988
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:31.039
That area is on the list eventually to get up to.

989
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:33.360
I mean, I've talked to so many people from Packwood.

990
00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:39.280
But also have you ever been to I think it's Ashland, Washington,

991
00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:45.159
over by Rnier, Yes, yeah, Okay, have you had any

992
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:50.480
experiences over there, because I've had some interesting interviews from

993
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:54.000
that area. Some researchers have really gotten in some wild

994
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:54.800
stuff over there.

995
00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:59.960
No, I haven't. I haven't done a lot around renew

996
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:05.719
Like you said, I'm I'm pretty wide ranging when it

997
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:09.599
comes to research. I spent a lot of time down

998
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:18.199
in south central Washington. Schimania County was just down. I've

999
01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:22.400
become really good friends with one of your former guests, Henry,

1000
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:28.360
and you know we talked about Henry and I hang

1001
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:30.519
out a lot. Yeah, we were together a couple of

1002
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:34.679
weeks ago down north of Golden down the Simcoe Mountains.

1003
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:39.280
I went down to interview him and shoot film for

1004
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.280
a little documentary that I'm making called Bigfoot in the

1005
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:46.559
Ponderosis about his sidings. So we went out to where

1006
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:48.800
he had his first two sidings, and he's had some

1007
01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:55.320
other experiences there and it was a great location. It's

1008
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:58.800
a cattle ranch in the mountains about five thousand feet

1009
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:01.880
up and we're we stayed is where the cowboys have

1010
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:05.039
been camping out together the cattle at for the winter.

1011
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:09.519
So they had a you know, campus tent there. We

1012
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:11.519
didn't stay in that. I stayed in my rooftop tent.

1013
01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:14.880
But it was a nice area to camp in. And

1014
01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:17.679
then you know, we're out there, you know, bigfooting, driving

1015
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:24.199
around talking about Bigfoot. But I had like this really

1016
01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:27.920
crazy I don't know if you want to talk about this,

1017
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.599
but I had like this really crazy experience that night.

1018
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:32.519
Absolutely, So.

1019
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:36.440
I had my fur runner all set up, and I

1020
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:39.360
decided i'd brought my ground tent. But I decided because

1021
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:41.360
it was going to be a lot colder, I was

1022
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:45.079
going to sleep in my rooftop tent and it was

1023
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:48.360
supposed to be like thirty two degrees, so I had

1024
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:50.800
I was sleeping on top of two blankets, and I

1025
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.320
didn't bring my diesel heater with me because it wasn't

1026
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:54.079
ready yet.

1027
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:56.119
I hadn't had it prepped.

1028
01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:59.400
But I get up there and so I have a big,

1029
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:03.119
thick fleece, dark green blanket over me, and then a

1030
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:07.199
dark gray electric blanket and it's like covering my head.

1031
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:09.199
So I'm covered head to toe with blankets and I'm

1032
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:15.159
sleeping on my right side and sleeping really well. And

1033
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:18.599
then around four o'clock in the morning, this bright light

1034
01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:23.039
wakes me up and it's shining Jeremiah. It is shining

1035
01:02:23.079 --> 01:02:27.079
through the blankets, that's how bright it is, and so

1036
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:30.400
I kind of pull the blankets down and I'm looking.

1037
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.440
And so remember I'm on my right side. The bottom

1038
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:38.000
of the tent is probably eight feet up. Top of

1039
01:02:38.039 --> 01:02:41.119
the tent like fourteen feet up, and there's this light

1040
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:44.480
shining through the tent, going through the fabric of the tent.

1041
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:47.480
Through that it also has that black app material in it,

1042
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:53.440
and it's orbiting above my tent. It goes so I'm

1043
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:56.679
laying on my right side as it's going up about

1044
01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:01.119
it took about three maybe four seconds to go completely

1045
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.440
over my tent. As it's going over, I'm rolling over

1046
01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:06.360
and when it gets to the left side of my tent,

1047
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:13.559
the light goes out and I was like, holy smokes.

1048
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:13.239
What was that.

1049
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.920
I'm like, was that Virgil coming out of Because his

1050
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:20.159
trailer was right next to me. I'm like, was he

1051
01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:23.719
coming out and was that a flashlight? So the next

1052
01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:25.599
morning we get up and I'm like, hey, Virgil, did

1053
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:27.199
you get up about four o'clock.

1054
01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:28.039
In the morning go to the bathroom.

1055
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:31.400
He's like, no, I have a bathroom inside, so I

1056
01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:33.239
don't need to come outside, and it's too cold.

1057
01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:35.559
So I'm like, huh, that's interesting.

1058
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:39.800
So we kind of start talking about what happened, and

1059
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:43.599
then we're out driving around the property doing our thing,

1060
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:46.840
and as we're talking, we both realized like, hey, we

1061
01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:49.760
had recorders out and wonder if we got anything. Man.

1062
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:51.440
So we get back to camp.

1063
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:55.480
I get my laptop and I had a recorder, a

1064
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:59.480
task Cam DR seven X on my driver's side front tire,

1065
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:03.079
which is to the left of where the tent is.

1066
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:06.199
So I remember it was coming from north to south

1067
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:08.920
over me, so it would have been right to left,

1068
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:13.239
right over where that recorder was. So I get the

1069
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:17.199
recorder and I'm sitting there and I start the recorder

1070
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:21.760
at ten thirty PM. At ten thirty eight. In like

1071
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:29.719
five seconds, you hear four tones kind of a and

1072
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:32.079
there's quite for a few seconds, and then you hear static,

1073
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:37.039
and then it does it again, and it goes on

1074
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:42.000
for a while. And then you hear a sound and

1075
01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:44.519
Virgil and you know, we're standing there playing this in

1076
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:46.840
real time on the recorder.

1077
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.199
Or on my laptop using Adobe Audition, and.

1078
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:53.239
I have a spectrum analyzer up so I can see

1079
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:57.000
the signals and we're looking at it. And then you

1080
01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:02.760
hear something that sounds like a mechanical thunk and then

1081
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:07.199
like pressurize and he's like, dude, was that a door

1082
01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:08.440
for a UFO coming down?

1083
01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:10.800
I'm like, I don't know if I want to stay here,

1084
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:14.599
maybe we should leave. Wow.

1085
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:18.519
And so we had like a very serious conversation. Are

1086
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:21.159
we going to spend another night because this happened on

1087
01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:23.920
Friday night? Or we stay on Saturday night? But I'm

1088
01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:26.000
so curious. I'm like, I've got to find out what's

1089
01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:32.000
going on. So I eventually figure out that sound with

1090
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:36.159
the thunk and the pressurization is Virgil's heater coming on

1091
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:36.840
as trailer.

1092
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:38.159
So I was able to debunk that.

1093
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:40.880
And this is like a really critical part of any

1094
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:45.119
kind of investigation that you're doing, not just to assume

1095
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:48.840
things and accept things, but you have to think about

1096
01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:52.880
it rationally and figure out what does it really mean,

1097
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:55.280
and if you can explain it it needs to be

1098
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:58.760
explained that way. Once you explain everything, if you're left

1099
01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:02.719
with anything else, then it's like the impossible, the things

1100
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:08.639
that you haven't considered or that aren't known, or the fantastic,

1101
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:14.480
like you maybe it was a UFO. So this goes

1102
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:19.079
on randomly. Sometimes it overlaps with the sound of the

1103
01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:21.559
heater and stuff coming on, and sometimes it doesn't.

1104
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:25.960
So I get back.

1105
01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:29.719
Home, I set the recorder on my mantle and I

1106
01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:34.119
let it run for eight hours. Play it back that night,

1107
01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:37.679
look through all the audio. There's no defects, there's no static,

1108
01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:40.400
there's nothing. So at that point I know it's not

1109
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:44.679
the recorder. That evening after work, I go out and

1110
01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:47.679
I put my recorder back on my front tire in

1111
01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:50.679
my parking space, and I let it set there for

1112
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:56.599
two or three hours running. Bring it back in nothing.

1113
01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:58.639
You can hear it traffic, you can hear all the

1114
01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:01.679
normal stuff. There's no status, there's no tones, there's nothing.

1115
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:06.840
So reached out to me and he's like, I want

1116
01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:11.239
to let you know. I took my trailer and I

1117
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:14.800
set up everything exactly the same is when we're in

1118
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:17.239
the simcos and I put a recorder next to it.

1119
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:21.480
And it's just beautiful audio, no static, nothing. So we've

1120
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:23.920
been able to roll out my rig, we've been able

1121
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:27.559
to roll out his trailer, his truck, we've been able

1122
01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:30.719
to roll out that. It's the recorder because it functions

1123
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:34.000
just fine here. So it has to be something about

1124
01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:39.159
that location. So going back Thanksgiving weekend and we're going

1125
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:42.920
to camp there and set everything up again and see, like,

1126
01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:44.920
you know, does anything happen.

1127
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:48.519
But I also followed a move on report. Oh okay,

1128
01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:49.119
that's cool.

1129
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:52.840
It's a case one four five zero zero five or

1130
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:55.079
something like, I can get it. I posted it on

1131
01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:57.360
my YouTube channel on the video that I did about this.

1132
01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:01.199
I did a twenty two minute video with like that morning.

1133
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:04.000
As soon as I got up, I recorded what happened

1134
01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:05.079
so I would remember.

1135
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:06.840
It and I would have it on video and audio.

1136
01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:09.760
And then as I'm kind of investigating in the whole

1137
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:14.119
thing's unfolding, I'm like interviewing myself and recording everything and

1138
01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:16.520
analyzing the audio where people can see it. So it's

1139
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:20.520
pretty interesting. I love that move on. It's reached out

1140
01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:22.560
and they want to talk to me and investigate it.

1141
01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:26.399
Also, Oh really, oh that's really cool.

1142
01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:29.600
So yeah, that'll be very interesting to see what happens

1143
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:31.920
in your follow up. And I'm sure you may even

1144
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:36.800
do something about the follow up expedition on your channel too.

1145
01:08:37.319 --> 01:08:40.079
Yeah. Perhaps, Yeah, that's cool. I'm hoping there will be

1146
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:42.720
a part two. Well, there'll be a part two. It'll

1147
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:43.399
be a part two.

1148
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:47.640
Nothing happened or something happened, and this is what happened,

1149
01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:50.119
and this is what we're able to explain, and this

1150
01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:53.439
is what we're left with. But everything is all about

1151
01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:54.039
the evidence.

1152
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:59.840
Have you ever done anything out by the Lake Cushman area?

1153
01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:06.119
So I have off roaded out there. I haven't done

1154
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:11.119
any investigations, but I've spent a lot of time off

1155
01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:16.840
roading around Hamahama and that whole area. I've driven on

1156
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:21.079
dirt roads all the way from kind of the Belfare

1157
01:09:21.239 --> 01:09:25.800
Washington area Skycomish all the way to Quanault Lake Quanault

1158
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:26.640
on dirt roads.

1159
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:32.600
Oh wow, that's that's pretty awesome. Yeah, that is it.

1160
01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:34.880
It's one of those areas where there's a lot that

1161
01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:37.960
happens around Cushman.

1162
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:41.680
Over the years, I've had some interesting stuff happen.

1163
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:45.760
Up in the North Cascades, like well, you know, I

1164
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:48.600
had the whole experience around Mount Baker and then not

1165
01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:53.319
too far from there east of Darrington. I was researching

1166
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.600
in that area for the first half of this year

1167
01:09:57.119 --> 01:10:00.319
and did some camping in solo camping out there, and

1168
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:03.119
I was camped with one of my overlanding.

1169
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:08.079
Buddies in the research area. And it's actually.

1170
01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:14.079
Probably about two miles from According to Fish and Wildlife

1171
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:20.960
Washington State, they get the most reports from Buck Creek Campground,

1172
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:24.079
and that's two miles from where this little story happened.

1173
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:30.600
Pretty remote, rugged area. I'm camped in a like a

1174
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.960
cutout to look a little clearing. I picked that spot

1175
01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.439
because it has open sky for set up my starlink,

1176
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:41.880
but it's right on the river, and so I'm parked

1177
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.920
facing towards the river and my buddy Austin is parked

1178
01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:48.880
facing away from the river, and our ladders are both

1179
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:52.920
coming down kind of maybe eight feet apart from each other.

1180
01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:55.560
And we camped this way a lot. We camp all

1181
01:10:55.560 --> 01:11:02.199
over Washington and Oregon. So like the closest campground is

1182
01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:08.000
two miles to the west, and then the next closest

1183
01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:13.720
campground is like maybe four miles to the east Sulfur Springs,

1184
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:18.239
and there's a few pullouts, but they're like over a

1185
01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:24.199
mile away. So we're sitting there. It's starting to get dark,

1186
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:29.640
and we're kind of sitting in behind my forerunner, and

1187
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:31.880
so I have if you've seen pictures of it, I

1188
01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:34.960
have a swing out hitch that has a table on

1189
01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:38.000
it for cooking and stuff like that, and so we're

1190
01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:41.359
sitting behind it, and I also have a refrigerator freezer

1191
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:46.159
cold beer. So we're sitting back behind that, and I'm

1192
01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:49.920
about five feet from the tree line and the river's

1193
01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:54.680
over here, and I keep hearing something to my right

1194
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:58.680
and the trees, but it sounds like somebody's having a conversation,

1195
01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:02.079
but it's just outside the edge of my hearing, and

1196
01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:05.840
so I'm like looking over and Austin's like, dude, what's

1197
01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:08.079
going on? I'm like, what do you mean? He's like,

1198
01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:09.800
you keep looking over there. I'm like, well, I keep

1199
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:10.359
hearing something.

1200
01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:11.920
I said, do you not hear that?

1201
01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:14.760
And he's like no, I said, keep hearing like somebody

1202
01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:18.720
talking over here to the right, back in the tree lines.

1203
01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:21.640
But I can't quite understand what they're saying. But I'm like,

1204
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:25.720
you know, maybe because I try to rationalize everything, maybe

1205
01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:30.840
it's the whole like water Paradoila type thing, So like

1206
01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:35.079
babbling brooks, there's a whole effect that goes with moving

1207
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:38.439
water running over rocks and things where it can sound

1208
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:40.520
like somebody talking. I think that's why they call them

1209
01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:45.319
babbling brooks. It sounds like somebody babbling. So I just

1210
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:48.359
kind of attributed it to that. We go to bed

1211
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:55.399
at ten thirty and at eleven o five, i'd already

1212
01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:58.159
gone to sleep, but I had a recorder running. You

1213
01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:02.840
hear the first tree knock and it's quite a ways away,

1214
01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:06.760
it's pretty distant, and then over the next minute and

1215
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:10.279
a half you hear a succession of tree docks that

1216
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:14.600
get closer, until eventually the last one woke me up

1217
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:19.439
and it sounded metallic, almost like a gunshot. But it

1218
01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:21.199
was like right there, and I'll send you the audio

1219
01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:36.119
so you can hear it. It's pretty eye opening. So

1220
01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:40.039
that happened right there in the Swaddle Valley. So I

1221
01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:43.359
get home and I don't know if this explains it

1222
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:45.199
or not, but I was telling my wife about it,

1223
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:47.000
and I'm planning the audio for her, and she's like,

1224
01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:51.000
it's crazy. She said, if you looked at your rig.

1225
01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:53.479
It's like, well, yeah, I did. I'll walk around the

1226
01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:55.680
next morning to see if anything was out of place,

1227
01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:00.760
having had that experience at Mount Baker. So we go

1228
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:04.640
down to my parking spot and start walking around, and

1229
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:08.560
I realize that on the passenger door there's.

1230
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:13.520
A new dent about the size of a rock that

1231
01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:14.359
was not there.

1232
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:17.840
I mean, I regularly clean that rig, so I know

1233
01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:21.399
like where every dent, every scratch is. So I don't

1234
01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:26.479
know if it's possible to. I'll send you the audio

1235
01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:29.119
file of that so you can hear it and maybe

1236
01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:31.000
you can tell me if you think it's a rock.

1237
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:34.239
But it definitely has a metallic quality to it, so

1238
01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:37.319
that may be an explanation. But you hear it, get

1239
01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:38.760
closer and closer and closer.

1240
01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:41.760
Yeah, I'd love to take a listen to that. That'd

1241
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:42.439
be pretty cool.

1242
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:43.359
Man.

1243
01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:48.479
Jimmy, you are getting involved already. I mean it's only

1244
01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:52.560
been a few years. You've already been in some crazy adventures.

1245
01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:55.279
I love it, man, It's like, what are you going

1246
01:14:55.359 --> 01:14:56.439
to get into next?

1247
01:14:56.720 --> 01:14:56.880
Man?

1248
01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:00.239
We're signing twenty twenty six and like the rest this

1249
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:05.680
year too. So this weekend I'm going to the Sasquatch

1250
01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:10.439
Summit and Ocean Shores at the quinnat Casino. Then Thanksgiving weekend,

1251
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:13.600
I'm going back to the Simco Mountains to go down

1252
01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:17.760
and see if we can recreate what happened or get

1253
01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:20.840
something new to happen. We also have some interviews to

1254
01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:23.479
finish up with some events that happened out there. It's

1255
01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:30.840
a really interesting area. And then after that, there's one

1256
01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:34.960
more research event that I know of before the end

1257
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:37.760
of the year, and then I'm already filling my calendar

1258
01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:39.239
with stuff for next year.

1259
01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:42.000
Yeah. Same. My wife's like, when are we going on

1260
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:42.880
family vacation.

1261
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:45.880
I'm like, well, you better plan it soon while I

1262
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:49.359
still have weekends and stuff open, because twenty twenty six

1263
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:50.479
is going to be a banger.

1264
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:54.359
Yeah. I get it, I get it. I have a

1265
01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:56.880
I have a certain amount I can.

1266
01:15:57.600 --> 01:15:57.800
Yeah.

1267
01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:02.039
You guys like, there's three or four areas that were

1268
01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:06.720
actively researching that have a lot of activity going on,

1269
01:16:07.479 --> 01:16:12.399
and we're kind of spreading ourselves around hitting those areas

1270
01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:17.399
as often as possible. One of them in the on

1271
01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:21.399
the Olympic side, kind of where the grays Harbor footcast was.

1272
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:25.800
We're doing some research out there and with Jonathan and

1273
01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:30.399
Sarah and their crew, and we've gotten some pretty pretty

1274
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:33.720
interesting vocals and you know, heard things while we're sitting

1275
01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:40.279
in camp, moving through the brush nearby, and one of

1276
01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:45.039
one of our research partners, I won't tell his story

1277
01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:48.079
because it's his, but he had a really really interesting

1278
01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:53.880
siding in the middle of the night across into a

1279
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:58.159
little clearing where something may have there may have been

1280
01:16:58.239 --> 01:16:59.239
two that split.

1281
01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:03.119
Apart and ran. Oh wow, really yeah, it was pretty crazy.

1282
01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:05.800
So we're planning on going back, you know, to that

1283
01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:11.600
area again, just trying to get as much as much

1284
01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:16.000
research as we can, to keep documenting and collecting evidence.

1285
01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:22.000
To contribute to the community. I think that's that's great. You.

1286
01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:25.119
I can tell you definitely got a good heart for this, Jimmy,

1287
01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:29.159
and you're really getting out there and doing some solid,

1288
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:32.039
solid research but also helping out with different events.

1289
01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:33.279
It's it's a cool combination.

1290
01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:35.600
But I just want to say thank you for coming

1291
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:40.119
on the show and for you know, sharing everything that

1292
01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:41.199
you have.

1293
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:42.319
Been involved so far.

1294
01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:47.359
You know, we'll definitely be keeping in touch, but could

1295
01:17:47.359 --> 01:17:50.520
you take a few minutes and share with people again,

1296
01:17:50.600 --> 01:17:52.760
you know, just remind them how they can keep up

1297
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:55.439
to what you're doing out there. The YouTube channel and

1298
01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:57.720
the podcast and just everything you got going on.

1299
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:02.239
Sure, so kind of your one stop shop is my

1300
01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:07.680
website www dot off road xfiles dot com. There's no hyphens,

1301
01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:11.520
no periods other than the www dot in the dot com.

1302
01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:14.720
It's all one word off road x files. You can

1303
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:16.760
get to my podcast through there, you can get to

1304
01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:22.760
my videos. I have my favorites links if you want

1305
01:18:22.760 --> 01:18:25.239
to see what my build is for my Forerunner.

1306
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:26.960
So I've put like.

1307
01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:33.920
Probably an excess of thirty thousand dollars in modifications into

1308
01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:38.800
my Forerunner. It's fairly unique, but I have the complete

1309
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:41.479
build listed on the website with all the different things

1310
01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:45.800
that are installed. Eventually I'll do a complete video series

1311
01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:49.119
on how everything works and why I picked it, because

1312
01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:54.880
I think that's important. Also, it's like videos my podcast.

1313
01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:59.720
My podcast is on Spotify, but I found that you

1314
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:03.640
tube is way more successful with getting people to listen,

1315
01:19:04.279 --> 01:19:07.720
and I'm trying to move towards having video along with

1316
01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:09.920
the podcast as well, so there's something for them to

1317
01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:13.720
see as well. That's the biggest complaint I've had. It's

1318
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:17.399
just audio with a static picture, so I'm going to

1319
01:19:17.439 --> 01:19:21.720
try to raise the bar on that. But my podcast,

1320
01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:28.000
off Road x Files is on Spotify, iHeartRadio, good Pods, Audible,

1321
01:19:28.239 --> 01:19:34.119
Amazon podcast, and YouTube of course, and then also have

1322
01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:38.720
a Facebook page off road x files. There's two pages.

1323
01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:41.720
One is like an actual page, please go to that one.

1324
01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:44.680
That's where I'm primarily active. The other one is like

1325
01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:46.359
you have to accept friends and all that.

1326
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:48.359
Awesome.

1327
01:19:48.479 --> 01:19:51.680
Well, definitely that's how you're going to keep up to

1328
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:54.399
date with everything Jimmy's got going on.

1329
01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:56.279
But thank you so much for coming on. Man.

1330
01:19:56.319 --> 01:19:58.960
We'll definitely keep in touch and hopefully I'm able to

1331
01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:01.640
meet you some event out there someday.

1332
01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:04.560
For sure, you ought to come out to the conference

1333
01:20:04.600 --> 01:20:07.399
and hang out. It's going to be a really great one.

1334
01:20:07.479 --> 01:20:10.680
And then people can also keep up with the conference

1335
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:14.800
at Beyond the Footprint dot com. We'll have all the latest.

1336
01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:18.960
We'll be posting pictures very soon from Sorry, there was

1337
01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:21.439
a delay in getting the pictures from the photographer of

1338
01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:23.840
the event, but we'll have a lot of pictures coming out.

1339
01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:26.520
But I really appreciate the opportunity. Jeremiah.

1340
01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:31.600
You're absolutely one of my favorites. And I'll continued listening

1341
01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:34.000
and I'll keep you posted on what's going on.

1342
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:37.600
Awesome. Thank you, Jimmy.

1343
01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:40.279
Before we wrap this episode, I want to see something

1344
01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:43.560
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1345
01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:47.319
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1346
01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:50.199
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1347
01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:53.520
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1348
01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:56.960
to stay quiet. If you're a pilot who's seen something

1349
01:20:57.039 --> 01:20:59.920
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

1350
01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:03.960
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled

1351
01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:06.880
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

1352
01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:10.439
you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

1353
01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:14.079
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If

1354
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:17.800
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1355
01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:20.960
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1356
01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:24.439
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1357
01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:28.359
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1358
01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:31.760
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1359
01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:34.760
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1360
01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:38.279
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1361
01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:42.079
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

1362
01:21:42.119 --> 01:21:45.760
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1363
01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:50.279
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1364
01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:55.600
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1365
01:21:56.039 --> 01:21:58.479
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1366
01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:04.279
carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

1367
01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:08.680
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1368
01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:11.560
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

1369
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:14.039
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1370
01:22:14.079 --> 01:22:17.239
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1371
01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:20.119
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

1372
01:22:20.239 --> 01:22:22.920
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1379
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1381
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1382
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1388
01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:14.479
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1389
01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:17.319
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1390
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1391
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