Sept. 4, 2025

Elk Hunters Terrorized by Aggressive Bigfoot Clan | Oregon

Elk Hunters Terrorized by Aggressive Bigfoot Clan | Oregon
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Season 1

What happens when an Oregon hunter realizes the monster outside his childhood bedroom window wasn’t a nightmare — but something far more real? In this chilling episode, we sit down with TW, a lifelong outdoorsman who has spent decades in the forests of Southern Oregon. TW recounts the night in 1972 when a red-eyed, long-haired figure stared through his window — and the decades of encounters that followed in the Prospect wilderness.


From tent stakes pulled from the ground, pinecones hurled with deadly force, and terrifying whoops echoing through the trees — to hunters abandoning camps near Diamond Lake and Union Creek after relentless harassment — TW’s stories will make you question what’s really stalking Oregon’s elk herds.

You’ll hear about drag marks through gravel roads, mysterious footprints, eerie vocalizations, and even a chrome cylinder too heavy to move that vanished overnight. More than just campfire tales, these firsthand experiences paint a violent and unsettling picture of a predator that doesn’t want to be found.


If you’ve ever wondered what it’s like to come face-to-face with the unknown in the Oregon backcountry, this episode will stay with you long after the sun sets.

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You're listening to Big the Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big the Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to TW today. TW is

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a hunter in the great state of Oregon, and we

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got connected as Tw's got a very interesting experience to share.

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He's been in the state for quite a long time.

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But welcome to the show. TW. How are you doing today?

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Doing really well?

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Fantastic. You were saying before the show that this is

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something that has stuck in your mind over the years,

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So I want to make sure that you know we're

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going to pass things right over to you so you

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can you can share with us what you experienced that day,

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and then we'll have a chat about it afterwards. There.

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Okay. This happened in southern Oregon. I believe it might

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have been at the end of the summer of nineteen

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seventy two. I was about eight or nine years old

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at the time. The house was vacant for quite a while.

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When my mom and dad bought it. They came up

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from a vacation from southern California, and they came up

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and bought the house knowing that they had to go

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and sell their house before we can move up. In

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the meantime, the house was vacant. There was a lot

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of tall grass, regular deer there every day, saw raccoons, skunks, mice, bugs,

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all that kind of stuff. I meant just it was.

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It was pretty run down five acres. It was pretty

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close to the mountains, and there wasn't very many houses

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around us. And when we first bought the house, it

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was just the one bedroom, one bath house. And uh

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my dad immediately uh started adding on a master bedroom

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for him and my mom, and uh it was already built.

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When this instant happened, I was sleeping with in the

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same bedroom as my two sisters, my two older sisters,

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and they were on the each side of a door

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that had a window that went to the outside, and

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I was on the opposing side of the room in

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my own bed, but I could see the window clearly,

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and basically the night in question, I know that the

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windows were closed, so it's probably it was. That's what

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makes me think that it was probably later in the

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summer because the window we usually keep the windows open,

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and the windows were closed, and the door that has

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the window panes has three steps to go down, so

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it was elevated, and if you were standing next to

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these steps, it would probably be imagine seven to seventy

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eight foot that if you were standing next to it,

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if you were able to look in the window, somebody

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regularly would not be able to do that. They would

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have to be on the steps. And so night, out

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the middle of the night, something woke me up. I

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don't know why I was. I was kind of I was.

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I remember wondering why did I wake up, because it

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was there usually no reason, and I don't know if

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something hit the house or or what. But I was

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kind of looking, you know, from my bed to the

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window that has a door that hasn't one of the

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dune sort of the door the head window, and I

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saw some long hair that went by, and it reminded

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me of skunk care and I was like, I just

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like as it made no sense to me at all,

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you know, seeing reckons and skunk's practically every day. Why

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would a skunk be way up there, you know, unless

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something somebody was holding it, you know, and there's nobody

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around our property, so so, you know, so I was

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just kind of just kind of like staring at the window,

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like wonder what that was. And next thing I know

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it there's a face, a big hairy face looking right

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at me, a lot of hair, dark brown, and the

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eyes seemed to glow red, and I just was pretty

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much immediately shocked. I don't know what was looking at me.

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I've never seen anything like it. And I did see

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I had seen Bary before too, and it didn't look

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like anything like that. And I immediately jumped into the

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bed of one of my sisters and told her that

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there was a monster outside. And she's like what, And

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I said, yeah, there's a monster outside, a big monster

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looking at me in a window. And she knew I

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was scared. She knew that I was not, you know,

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you know, she you know, tried to say that, well,

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did you have a bad dream? I said no, I

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was awake and I said no, there's something outside. And

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I was adamant about it. And she goes, well, you

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need to go, you know, tell dad, And I remember

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I didn't want to. Was underneath the covers and I

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didn't want to. I was scared. I was probably you know,

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I definitely a state of shock. And then I, you know,

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I got out really quick and I ran to my

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dad's bedroom and I told him, and he said, you know,

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he just tried to dismiss it because he wanted to

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go back to sleep. I'm pretty sure he had to

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go to go to work the next morning. And he'd

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just say, you know, you're like, I wasn't bugging him,

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you know, and he was like, a probably a deer,

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you know. I was like, I was like, yeah, there

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can't be a deer that they can do, but that did,

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you know, And and he's like, he goes, well, you know,

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you're you know, you can sleep, you can sleep in here,

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but I'm not going to get up. I'm not going

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to look around. But that's all, you know, I'm not

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going to So we just that was it, and I

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went to sleep, but you know, with my mom and

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dad that night, the rest of the night and the

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next day we went out looking for foodprints and there

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wasn't because the ground was really hard. It hasn't rained

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for quite a while, so it was definitely some time

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in the summer. And I think we heard like a

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week later that right up the road actually into the mountains,

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it was a granite pit and somebody saw it running.

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They said, a bigfoot that ran through the granite pit

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the week after and I said, oh, that must have

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been what was looking at me. It was a bigfoot.

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I didn't know what a bigfoot was. This was nineteen

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seventy two. You know, there's nothing on TV that was

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anything like it, and and I'm pretty sure it was

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before any kind of you know, any kind of thing

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on TV was about bigfoot. So I didn't know what

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bigfoot was. So that's what that's what made me think.

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You it could have you know, definitely notched the description,

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and you know, it makes sense that it would come

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back there. Not a way. Well, there was a lot

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of deer, but the house was vacant for quite a while,

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so I imagine it was probably you know, somewhat of a

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regular you know that that's that's probably something that they

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do come on that part of the property because the

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house is vacant. I don't know, seems to me like

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it was at least like nine months it was vacant,

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so you know, probably showed up there, you know, on

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a regular basis. So but that's uh, and the right

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The ironically thing is I live about three miles away

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from that location, on the same side of the mountain,

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so and I'm I'm a little bit farther away from

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the woods, but that's I see deer. There's deer quite

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quite a bit on the on the property I'm at

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right now. So so yeah, so you know, it's still

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there's still a lot of wilderness that's not too far

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away from where this happened. So but that's that's that's

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basically it.

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Hm, that is that is so very interesting. I definitely

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have a few questions for you about your sighting. When

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you said skunk care, then are you also referring to

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the color of it.

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Yeah, it was more it was more black here. But

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it basically that the way that skunk care out how

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long it is and that's what you know, when I

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first saw it, that's what I first saw, the long

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the long hair that, yeah, there's that. I'm just trying

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to remember. There might have been a light out there

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that could have been it could have been the moon,

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but I saw clearly when I first saw I saw

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long hair go by the window, and it just reminded

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me of skunk hare. It was. It was just it

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was definitely it was definitely dark in color, and but

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it was kind of like the almost like the texture,

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you know, how how long how long that hair is

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and how the texture is. That's what it reminded me of.

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Gotcha, you said you saw the eyes glowing red as well.

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Were you able to see the eyes themselves too, or

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did the red eye glow kind of overpower that.

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The just the red eye glow because it was it

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was dark enough for I could barely see a face.

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It was kind of like a and and it was

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kind of like an emotionless face that but I did

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see the eyes, but it didn't make any expressions at all.

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When I when it saw me and I saw, you know,

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I know that I screamed and it did. It kind

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of reminded me, I would say, of a rangutan type face.

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It was kind of like big like that, and and

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and emotionless. It was just it was looking at me.

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And so I you know, if I was the guest,

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I would say it was a female.

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Looking at the pictures of orangutan faces, they definitely are

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very interesting. You know that the males have almost like

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the goatee at the bottom, they have like the large

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fleshy area around the sides of the face. Didn't have

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anything like that that that would have made you say, okay,

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this kind of looks like an orangutan.

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I I it just had a big, big face and

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you know, it took up a lot of the window

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and and it was it was like I said, it

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was like emotionless. There was just no emotion that it was.

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I guess maybe if anything curious, but it was just like,

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you know, it was just looking straight at me. You know,

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It's like it was like looking, you know, right at me.

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And you know, I think you know, maybe it was

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you know, it was looking in but immediately caught it

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caught you know, me looking at it. You know, sure,

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So you know, you know, so, like I said, something

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woke me up, and it might maybe it might have

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you know, h the hit the side of the house

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or something.

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But yeah, do you remember anything specifically about the nose

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that you on its face? I would say it looked flat, okay, gotcha?

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Were the eyes close together in proximity or wide apart?

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No, the white apart?

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Okay. Imagine you're looking at the face and the lower

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part of the nose and then kind of the top

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part of the lips. How much of a space is

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between those two things.

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I couldn't remember that much, but I do remember the

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flat nose, and and you know, I didn't see any

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kind of movement with the mouth. There was no movement,

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so I really couldn't tell where all that was. But

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I did see the nose in the eyes, and I

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couldn't see the bottom of his chin because it was

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taking up. It was almost like it was almost like

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it was crossed down to look in and and so

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it cross down where the eyes could eyes on them.

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You know, the nose can definitely look into But I didn't.

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I don't remember even seeing the mouth.

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Gotcha. Did you notice anything about Could you see the

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hair on the top of the head at all?

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No, it was it was so long that it went

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beyond that, and I saw, you know, I saw I

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saw a hair sticking out, sticking out from the sides

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quite a ways. You know, it was like I guess

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you would say, matted hair.

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Okay, very interesting. Do you ever remember anything else weird

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showing up around the house at that time? Were there

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ever any items left or animals that were missing or

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that were killed in the area, or maybe trees that

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looked weird?

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See, you know, that's what that's one of the things

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that you know, we had. We had a whole bunch

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of oak trees and so big oak trees, and but

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I don't remember anything happening to the oak trees. I mean,

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we would have branches that would fall off from time

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to time. We would we had chickens that that were

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they disappeared, so we'd have you know, if we had fifteen,

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fifteen to twenty chickens, we'd go in there sometimes will

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be eighteen, you know, and so we just you know,

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but we also let them free range, you know, so

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it was it was possible that they can go through

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another property, you know, that was there was a property

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that was behind us that was a I had a barn,

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and it's possible that you know, they could have went there.

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So didn't find you know, any kind of I don't

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remember seeing any kind of feathers anyway. They just they

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just went missing. And it wasn't you know, wasn't that

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big of a deal because my mom and dad does

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to keep on getting more chickens. They wasn't like you know,

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like you know, a couple of just a couple of

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couple of gun hopefully they come back, and sometimes they

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do it. They wouldn't come back sometimes they would.

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Is this a thing that you ever talked to, let's say,

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your sisters or your father at a later time when

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you're you know, you're you're growing up, you're an adult.

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Did you guys ever have a discussion about this event?

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Yes, I've talked. I talked to my sister and she

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said that she thought that I was just having a

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bad dream. She she didn't, you know, she wasn't about

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to look out the window or nothing. But she just

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thinks that it was just me. I was eight and

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nine years old, so it had been a bad dream,

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you know. So she does she doesn't chalk it up

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as and she just discounts everything because she just feels it.

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She just puts it in a bad dream. She doesn't

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she she's a type of person that doesn't want to

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believe in something like Bigfoot?

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Interesting? Was there ever anything reported in that house or

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around it that could be considered paranormal activity or anything weird?

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No?

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Okay, no, you mentioned that there's not or or how

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about that? Would you how far away would you say

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it was? Was the closest neighbor for you guys and

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you can just be approximate on it.

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Well, well, we had we had a neighbor that was

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their barn was you know, right behind our barn, so

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that was you know, you know, that's probably a quarter

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a mile away. Their their house was actually closer to

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another road, but the barn was closer. We had another

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neighbor that was probably he was probably about five hundred

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yards away. His house. It was just to it was

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kind of us. It was kind of secluded that he

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had a guard a big garden in between us, and

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so we didn't really you know, see much of him.

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We have we had another neighbor and they had a

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big farm that was that was on the other side

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of us. They had cows and and horses, and we

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don't we we would actually go over and get fresh

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milk from them. But that was that was probably, you know,

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probably a block away.

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Uh did you ever hear anything making strange noises or

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anything weird sounding in the woods.

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And in the woods around that house?

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Yeah?

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No, not no, Uh.

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Gotcha. Were there any ever conversations with neighbors about hey,

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yeah we heard some had some weird stuff happened too,

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or did it not really come up ever?

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Well? I actually actually I actually talked to that one

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neighbor had a big farm. They had a a boy

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that was he was kind of you would say that

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he's kind of with the do pranks. And I said,

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and I asked him, I said, hey, you know, did

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you put a did you put a mask on and

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come to our window? And and he's just like no,

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he goes, I would never do that, and you know,

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so so I did. I did, and you know, we

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did ask him about that, but they never said anything

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about you know, I never you know, it was actually

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those you know, the type of thing that you know,

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got to be a point where I didn't want to

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talk to too many people about it. I just asked him

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about that. It's as something something showed up for a

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window and he said, oh, that's weird. But he didn't,

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you know, he didn't say anything else about it.

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Why would you feel important to come forward?

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Now?

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Is what happened to you that day?

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Because I see that it's a regular It's one of

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the regular things that that Bigfoot do. They do like

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the pick and windows, you know, So I, you know,

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whenever I see a story that's like mine, I was like,

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you know, I gravitate to it because a lot of

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the same similarities. You know, I've seen I've seen one

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where you know that there's a there's a definite face

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in the window, and it shows pictures that that face

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looks a lot more menacing than what that was that

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was looking in my window. Like I said, that's why

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I feel that it was it was probably a female

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because it wasn't menacing. It was you know, more like

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like I that I had a blank stare, you know, emotionless,

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and it was kind of like curiosity, you know, you know,

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more on the curious side.

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Absolutely, did this affect you in any ways growing up

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as a young child or high school or anything like that, Well,

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it made.

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Me more aware that I because I you know that

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that became you know from a not only a believer,

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but a knower. So it made me more aware of

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that there's something else out there, because I knew when

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I saw when I thought that that was real. And

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that's something I've never seen before.

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Have you ever experienced anything out of or have you

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ever experienced anything strange when you've been out hunting?

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Absolutely?

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Okay? Is that anything that you would be able to

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share share also in this interview?

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Sure? Sure, you know I can. There's an area that's

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I would say it's by Prospect, Oregon. We've been hounting

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it for this area for forty years. It's probably fifty

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square miles of wilderness that we know it very well.

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It's mostly known for elk hunting. A lot I've got,

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I've got some deer out of there. I got an

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elk coff in this area, and my dad got a

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deer as well, and we had there's there's definitely there's

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definitely things that happen. One in particularly this we are

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camping off of a road in a wall tent and

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and this basically we're at the bottom of a road

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that you have to hike into over three miles. That's

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hike only. You can't drive, and but it's an old

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skid road and it goes into an a very interesting

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area and we found we found elk bones back there,

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not like like something you know, not a hunter, not

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a hunter would would would leave those, leave the rib

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the rib bones and all that kind of stuff. So

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we found we found lots of lots of different bones

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up there. Never really had much we really really really

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didn't have much go on before. But but this our

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first instances was in the middle the night, we heard

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a big whoop. It was a real high I say,

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when you listen to a hollow monkey, that sounded a

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lot like a holler monkey. And I knew and I

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meant we were really tired, and it woke me up

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out of a cold sleep, and it was it was

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definitely you know, indicating that it knows that we were there.

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And my my thinking was when I when that happened,

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not only was it a primitive, it was primitive, but

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I felt that it was kind of on the younger

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side because of how high it had had really had

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had a high whoop, and so that was one of

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the things that happened. Also, we found some of the

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tent stakes were pulled up. That's when we went to

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go pack, so they came right behind the wall tent

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were pulling steaks. There's no those noble hunters around there.

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It's a pretty remote area. And one time my dad

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was who wasn't the same, you know, he was actually

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farther away. It's probably at least at least three or

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three to five miles away, and he went into this

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area and he was leaning against a tree. I think

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he was laying down, leaning against a tree, and a

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pine cone goes flying past them. And said, I it

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wasn't just a pine cone. It was a silver tip

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pine cone that was hard and it probably weighed about

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probably weighed at least a half a pound, and I felt,

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you know, my we found it if we found it

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the next weekend, and it was hard and it would

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if he if it would have hit my dad said

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it would have he probably would have knocked him out,

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but it would it went past his head. It went,

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didn't go drop down and went it was thrown, and

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one of my dad said he got up and was

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wondering if it was me or something that why wouldn't

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you know something? Somebody was messing with them, he thought,

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And he turned around he saw a black figure go

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into the woods and just crashing and going away, you know.

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So but but we had we had other encounters and

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other hunters in that area also we talked to that

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had encounters as well, things thrown at him, you know

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when they're sitting around the campfire and stuff. So, and

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another thing that's very interesting is like there's there's barely

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any elk up there anymore. It's almost like they wiped

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out the population. My thinking is that at at least

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a family and the population has completely changed. It used

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to be a real hot elk hunting area and you

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could go up there and now and with no problem

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and get a camp spot the night before elk hunting,

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and that was not never the case. So it really

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changed the dynamic of the area in the last twenty years.

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That is extremely interesting. It reminds me of something I

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heard last year at Oakridge in Oregon. I had a

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few elk hunters tell me that they showed me on

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a map. They're like, these areas where all the big

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foot sightings and stuff are, that's where all the elk are,

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and it's almost like they will follow the el curds

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around and you can almost track it. So it's extremely

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interesting that you would bring that up, that that the

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situation with your dad getting that thrown at him and

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then having the visual did that change how he how

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he thought of the subject then, or how was he

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after that?

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Oh? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, he he definitely said that.

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I don't think he will hunt alone anymore after that.

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And he used to be a regular. You know, well,

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I'm gonna hunt alone for a couple of days and

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then you can come up from work and then we'll

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meet up. Well, he won't do that anymore.

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Sure what approximate year would that have been when you

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guys had the tent stakes pulled up and your dad

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had that situation happen.

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Let me see, I'm trying to think we had a

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tent trailer. I'm sorry, we didn't know. I'm sorry that

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was a wal ten. I'm sorry, it's a wall ten. Yeah,

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that runs. I did have another instant as well, but

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that would probably that would probably have been thirty years ago, gotcha.

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But we also have something else that happened. My uncle

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came up from LA and he came up with a

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sound recorder and and he came up in this and

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now in this area, this area was on a higher

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elevation area. This camp and there was another camp that

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was a kind of up the road, probably about a

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mile away from us. That was about the closest. And

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so the night before I was in a tent trailer

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so I can hear everything, and he had his recorder

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put on the hood of the truck so they'd record

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anything that's walking around or anything. And the next morning

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I told him, I said, I heard two knocks. I

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heard two knocks that was not too far away from here,

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and sure enough, well he found those three and so

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so that night he decided start making big foot howls

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and everything. And my dad didn't like him really doing that.

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He goes, I really don't like them to come visit us,

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and that that so I was woken up at three

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o'clock in the morning with a very loud, deep Tarzan

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call and I was like, who this was? Like really

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I meant to And when I heard it, I was like,

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there's only one thing to make that noise. But I

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was in a tent trailer, and we had to set

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up that if there was anything that was gonna that

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was going to happen, that I was going to hit

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my car, my car horn. Well, I had a remote

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for my Chief Liberty, and I was doing that and

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I couldn't hear any movement from my uncle my dad,

472
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.000
but I want to let them know that I would

473
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:58.440
like to have one of them come over and get me,

474
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:02.240
and and we need to figure something out because there

475
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:04.559
I knew when I heard that, I knew that I

476
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.039
was going to be coming in. I just I don't

477
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:08.920
I don't know why, but I just knew that it

478
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:12.519
was going to make a visit. And so then I

479
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:15.519
had to hit my remote to turn the alarm on.

480
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:21.640
And and then my uncle said something, something's going on,

481
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.720
you know me, And so he got dressed and came over.

482
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.440
And by the time he got dressed and came over,

483
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.799
something behind the trailer was urinating and it was loud.

484
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.400
It sounded you know, it reminds me of like you know,

485
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.240
I mean, I used to, you know, be in the

486
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.640
barn and when you hear a you know, horse pee,

487
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:46.799
That's what it sounded like. And and I when my

488
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:50.400
uncle showed up with his gun, and I said, did

489
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:54.480
you go to the bathroom before coming in? He goes, well,

490
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.240
I did in the trailer. I said, no, what I

491
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.599
heard was not in the trailer, and and I said, well,

492
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:06.119
they're around here, And so I went back well, back

493
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.680
in told them when I heard and everything else. The

494
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.119
next morning we went out and he took pictures of

495
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:15.119
a bunch of footprints. Oh I'm sorry, there's another another thing.

496
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:19.000
Before I went into trader, I looked over my Cheap

497
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:23.599
Liberty and the passenger door was wide open, and that

498
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.079
means something opened my door. And because I wouldn't there

499
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.559
was no way that I would have I would leave it,

500
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:35.200
you know like that. You know, I was that's where

501
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:39.279
I had my gun, hunting gun, and I said something

502
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:42.720
was here. And the next day we found a bunch

503
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:44.839
of footprints.

504
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:52.279
Wow, that meant quite the interactions in that area. That's

505
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.160
also in the prospect area as well.

506
00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:00.000
Yeah, okay, yeah that's a prospect area. Yeah. Yeah.

507
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.960
What was the approximate length of the footprints that you found?

508
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:10.880
I think he measured I think he measured sixteen Yeah,

509
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:14.000
I think it was like sixteen inches. We found one

510
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.440
that was pretty deep that we actually put a pepsi

511
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.599
can next to it and you probably can put my

512
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.960
foot probably four yeah, probably a little bit over four

513
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:30.039
pepsi cans that belong. And we did find one deep,

514
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.359
but the other one was on it was has hasn't been.

515
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.039
It wasn't raining, It was on a it was in

516
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:39.880
the October. We didn't have any rain, and so but

517
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:44.799
we did see the definite bear footprints. You can see

518
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:48.200
the you can see the toes, and my uncle, you know,

519
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:49.359
took pictures of that.

520
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:55.119
Gotcha. And by saying that, you're saying that not that

521
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.400
they were footprints of a bear, but they were. There

522
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.799
was something not wearing shoes because there toes found.

523
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.079
Yeah, definitely, definitely, yeah, definitely not wearing shoes, and it

524
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:05.319
definitely was not a bear.

525
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:11.800
Gotcha. Now, Yeah, did anyone go to look at the

526
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:16.239
area where there was that loud sound of urination?

527
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:24.559
Well, unfortunately, it was just so thick back there that

528
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.880
it was right behind basically where I had there was

529
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.239
that was that was off of that was off the

530
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:36.320
path or where were that? What I heard? That was?

531
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.440
That was? That's what it was right behind my trailer

532
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:43.639
was all this thick stuff and and then it went

533
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.400
and then there was a path that went to part

534
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.360
of it, but were that what I was hearing? There

535
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:51.800
was no path there, so it was in the middle

536
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:52.719
of that thick stuff.

537
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.840
Gotcha. Any weird smells around that time as well?

538
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.800
No, No, I mean we we we had we we

539
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:09.400
came across areas before they had dad weird smells, but

540
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:11.039
not not at that particular time.

541
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.719
And you were saying, the other hunters you've talked.

542
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:18.280
To, they were, they were, they were there were there

543
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.719
were people that we we we used to run into

544
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:25.960
them every year and and they used to be at

545
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:31.280
this one camp and and so we found we went

546
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.159
back to their camp and they weren't there, and so

547
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:36.840
that was kind of weird. You know, at least they

548
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.840
they're pretty much loyal. They'll they'll come to that area

549
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.840
no matter what, because they got some pretty big bulls

550
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.760
out of there before. And all of a sudden they

551
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:47.920
showed up on one of the last days and we

552
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:51.960
were My dad was saying, you know why, you know,

553
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:53.800
he asked him, why are you guys move and they're like, yeah,

554
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.119
you know, didn't really didn't really say, and he goes,

555
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.760
he is, hey, you know, we had some we had

556
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.639
some you know things happened to us. And they looked

557
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:05.039
at each other. They knew exactly what we were talking about,

558
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.119
and they told them about the pine cone thing and

559
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.039
he goes, well, yeah, he goes, he goes, that's the

560
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:14.440
reason why we don't camp there anymore because basically it

561
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.920
harassed us all night by shaking our trailer, by throwing things,

562
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.960
rocks around. Why we were the campfire. They didn't want

563
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:28.159
us here, and so we just we just thought we

564
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.840
had tried somewhere else, but they didn't. They didn't want

565
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.199
they didn't feel comfortable camping there anymore.

566
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.320
That is really really interesting being a hunter out there

567
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:42.519
and being in circles where you'd be talking to the hunters.

568
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.280
Is that something that it's talked about a lot, or

569
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:50.400
do people not really mention if they've encountered what they

570
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:51.920
think might be bigfoot out there.

571
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:58.559
I hear a lot of people saying they're just trying

572
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:02.480
not they're trying not to make the action. Those two guys,

573
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:05.840
they actually have seen them before up by Diamond Lake.

574
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:11.400
So it's not it's they're they're very familiar that they're around,

575
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.440
but they also very familiar that they don't want to

576
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.199
get harassed by him.

577
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.440
Absolutely. You mentioned Diamond Lake, which has come up on

578
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:25.119
the show before. There's definitely activity that happens in that area.

579
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:29.280
Uh So you're saying that the other hunters had sightings

580
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.079
in that or was that the people.

581
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.880
That were in your group, right, No, that was that

582
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.639
was that was the those other hunters they said they

583
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.760
they said that they came up across a herd elk

584
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:44.679
that they were following, and there's one guy, I think

585
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:48.079
I think he was They were following them, and they

586
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:50.119
said they're going to go in this area the next morning,

587
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.559
and they know where they are. So he was sneaking

588
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:58.719
up to where they were, and he was in the

589
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.400
he could see elk and front of him. You know,

590
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.000
they blend into a lot of things, but a lot

591
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.159
of times when you're looking at five, there's another twenty

592
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:11.679
that's around. And he was looking around and he said,

593
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:16.519
crouched down that probably seventy five yards away. He said

594
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:20.840
a sasquatch was honey of them too, And he said

595
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:25.119
he could see it sitting there. It was behind trees,

596
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.760
but he could see it. And he'd got out of

597
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.239
there and he told me, he told his whole camp.

598
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:32.559
He goes, we got to get out of here. I

599
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:36.159
don't feel comfortable in this area, because he said, even

600
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.239
though that I was crouched down, I was still taller

601
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:38.800
than he was.

602
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:44.440
I don't know if I've ever heard an account where

603
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:50.000
one was actually hunting elk or anything like that. I

604
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.800
know that they're definitely that's one of the food sources.

605
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.679
But do you know what, maybe what year that would

606
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:57.639
have happened around at Diamond.

607
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:04.320
Lake, Well, it would have to be probably I'm trying

608
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.000
to think the last time we went in there hunting,

609
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.800
so had it been probably twenty years ago?

610
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:16.360
Gotcha? That area is really interesting. I've also heard from

611
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:21.480
another researcher's names Randy Sibley, where if you're looking at

612
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.000
a map and you have Crater Lake and to the

613
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:29.199
west of Trader is two thirty goes down past Union

614
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.760
creaking down the prospect. I guess that area is also

615
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:36.400
heavily active as well, and there's a lot of stuff

616
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:41.000
that happens there that not the most positive encounters, you

617
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:43.360
would say, pretty aggressive at times.

618
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:47.719
Well what what what? I hear? What they say? I

619
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.920
ran into one hundred and he says the Union Creek side,

620
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:55.519
he goes, they'll firashu the Crater lakeside. They won't even

621
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.960
bother you.

622
00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:58.519
Oh really?

623
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:01.239
Yeah? Wow?

624
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:03.840
So is that like on the other side of two

625
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.280
thirty then where the distinction is or.

626
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:10.639
Yeah, yeah, that so the Union Creek Union Creek area,

627
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:15.199
he said, on that side, I'm saying. I'd say what

628
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:18.480
he was trying to say is basically the you know,

629
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:21.719
there's like the Rogue River kind of guys has a

630
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.039
little you know, it's like it's like a line. And

631
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:26.400
he said, left of the Rogue River, you know, if

632
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:31.800
you're going towards Bend, he says, they're they're aggressive, they're territorial.

633
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.079
They will let you know they don't like you. But

634
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.119
you go in Crater Lake and they don't. They don't

635
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:41.360
bother you. He said. You'll see footprints and everything else,

636
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:43.760
but you will not get bothered at night, you know,

637
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.960
because you know, they said, most people that are going

638
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:49.519
in that Crater Lake area, they're not they're not you know,

639
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:53.039
parady in or nothing like that. But the other people

640
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:56.119
on the other side, that's where they're more. You know,

641
00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:59.280
you'll you'll get the hunters to have the whole big camps.

642
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:03.639
They'll be playing music and whatever, and and they don't

643
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:05.800
like them. You know, it's they just they don't like

644
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.840
that at all. You're disrupting, you're disrupting their area.

645
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:14.239
Wow. Have you heard of any accounts where there's there's

646
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:18.920
really aggressive interactions with hunters.

647
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:23.880
Well, just you know, you know, just the just the

648
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:27.360
throwing things, throwing sticks and and the rocks and want

649
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:31.320
to add the pine cone they're they're just basically seemed

650
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:34.159
to me more like a warning. You know, you know

651
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:39.039
we we don't want to hear you know that I

652
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:41.880
that I forgot to tell you that when I had

653
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.119
the incident, that one came in the camp at three

654
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.480
o'clock in the morning, we went up to the other

655
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:48.519
camp and we we asked him, did you have any

656
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:50.599
did you hear anything around or anything? And they said

657
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:54.440
this guy says, well, we had our heater going, but

658
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:58.719
I he said, I heard was sounded like something taking

659
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.079
his hand on the top of the trailer and run

660
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:05.159
in his hand through the whole side of the trailer. Now,

661
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.480
I mean these these fifth little trailers. It was a

662
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:11.840
big one. And that thing that that that had been

663
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.559
at least what he was talking about was like, I

664
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.079
don't know, I imagine eight to nine feet off, you

665
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:21.239
know that if it would have to be something that

666
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.679
tall that can at least reach that high to do

667
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:25.880
what he said, But it sounded like he said, it

668
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:29.800
sounded to him that that something took her hand and

669
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.000
we're all along along the whole side of the top.

670
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:36.159
He can hear it scraping, he said, he said, I

671
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.440
heard that last night, but he goes, I don't. He goes,

672
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:40.239
I don't know what it was, you know, he goes,

673
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:42.920
He said, it sounded to me like a branch or

674
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:47.039
something or something. But he knows I heard something that

675
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:49.599
that's what it sounded like to me, you know. But

676
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:54.159
he didn't hear any any calls or anything. And I'm

677
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:59.199
trying to think that you see that happened. I think

678
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:02.840
the next weekend and we went in there, and I

679
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:07.920
think we're deer hunting, and my dad was on one side,

680
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.239
you know, it was close to that area, and I

681
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:14.119
was on the other side, and we both have walkie talkies. Well,

682
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:18.679
he said he can hear one making all kinds of noise,

683
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:21.800
and he was trying to he was trying to play

684
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.199
it for me on my walkie talkie. He was that loud,

685
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:26.639
so he was that close that he could hear him

686
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:30.000
that like that. And it's pretty funny when I find it,

687
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.679
because I don't like to turn my walkie talkie until

688
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:35.199
I get into a good hunting area that I can

689
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:38.480
that I can sit and and observe and I turned

690
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:41.079
it on, and then he was calling me and he

691
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:42.760
told me this this thing, and I said, well, we're

692
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:44.800
that and he goes, well the rate below me. And

693
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:48.079
I said, well that's where I'm at. So I got

694
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:51.280
out of there, you know. But uh yeah, like I said,

695
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.800
we had, we had many many encounters in this area.

696
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:58.880
They seemed to they seemed to be in there pretty thick.

697
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:01.960
And but you know, there there's just a lot of

698
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.760
area back there, Like I said, probably, I don't know,

699
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:10.440
it's probably you know, twenty five to fifty square miles

700
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.000
that we hunt, you know for the most part, you know,

701
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.199
you know, depending how long we're up there, we hunt

702
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:21.400
the first, you know, the first big circle, and then

703
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.440
we go beyond that if we are still looking for

704
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:24.360
tracks or whatnot.

705
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:32.880
Wow, those those sounds that he was trying to get

706
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.920
to come over the walkie talkie. Yeah, how would you

707
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:39.280
describe them? Would you think?

708
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:44.320
He described that? He described it making we are making

709
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:47.320
all kinds of vocals. He said, it wasn't making one

710
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:51.599
long vocals, making a whole bunch of vocals. And he said,

711
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:55.039
you know, I mean we're talking My dad back then

712
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:59.920
was still was still probably you know, like early seven

713
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:04.840
and not the best hearing, so he probably wouldn't pick

714
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.639
up a lot when somebody had better hearing. But he

715
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:11.119
just said that you were making all kinds of vocally noises,

716
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:16.320
maybe even trying to talk, he said. He said he

717
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:18.599
really could make sense of what was going on, but

718
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.119
he said they were definitely making a lot of noise.

719
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:28.599
Wow, that's incredible. And that was Prospect area in the nineties.

720
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:36.519
Yeah, it was. And it's probably an elevation where we

721
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:41.639
were at. We're probably mostly in the elevation of probably

722
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:45.480
four thousand up to I mean, we can look over

723
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:47.239
to see that. We can actually where we're at, we

724
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.360
can look over and see the rim of the crater lake.

725
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.800
So we're up there, you know, sixty six to seven

726
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:56.880
thousand feet maybe, so yeah, we're up there.

727
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:00.920
Oh wow, So yeah, you're out there. But you're also

728
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:07.000
up there too, which is which a perfect combination. My goodness. Yeah,

729
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.400
this is some of the most detailed hunting and encounter

730
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:15.079
stories I've heard, especially the one that the sticks out

731
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:18.440
just because you know, you think about what what can

732
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:22.280
pull up stakes of a tent? I mean has to

733
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.320
have something, Yes, it has to be someone with a hand, right.

734
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.079
Hand hand and strength because we we were we were

735
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:33.159
not we were having to. It was basically, we're almost

736
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:36.679
hammering these stakes in the rock. And that's what that's

737
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:40.719
what surprises more than anything is because I mean we

738
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.440
had to really hit with a big sledgehammer to get

739
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.559
them to go in all the way to the ground.

740
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.079
And my dad asked me, he goes, did you pull

741
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:56.639
these elements? Like no, and you know, there's there there's

742
00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:00.119
kind of a funny but I I think one of

743
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:04.400
the things that brings them to me during the evening

744
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:10.599
is that I snore, and I snore pretty bad, and

745
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:15.079
it's almost like they're curious about it. That's what that's,

746
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:18.039
you know, and that that's and I can imagine that

747
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:19.760
one when I was in the wall tent and that

748
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:25.920
one that that made that that that's almost like a scream.

749
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:29.719
He might have been really agitated by me, you know,

750
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:33.119
that might you know because when I sometimes when I snore,

751
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:33.880
I'm pretty loud.

752
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:37.760
That's a pretty solid theory. T W thank you so

753
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:41.400
much for for coming on the individual that had the

754
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:44.239
sighting up by Diamond Lake. Do you think he might

755
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:47.559
be an individual that would be interviewed about that?

756
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:50.880
Oh, he had had no problem, but I don't. We

757
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:56.920
don't have the contact deformation. Okay, well, yeah he used

758
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:58.360
to be he used to be. Uh, he used to

759
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.480
work at the local gas station. He does them and

760
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:03.519
pump cash. He doesn't do that anymore, gotcha.

761
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:07.880
If he's listening, he can definitely reach out emails Big

762
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:11.440
for Society gmail dot com or if any hunter that

763
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:14.199
has had weird stuff like this happen in the woods,

764
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:18.840
guys and girls, reach out and I'd love to talk

765
00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:23.159
to you press. Hunters have some incredible experiences to share,

766
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:25.519
but tw I want to make sure that you were

767
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:29.519
able to share everything that you came to the show

768
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:32.320
to talk about today.

769
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:35.400
There's only there's only just a couple more things that

770
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:41.440
are interesting in this area. One we found completely different

771
00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:44.920
areas we found. We found drag marks. Now, these drag

772
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:50.000
marks are on like limestone, and and what they do

773
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:53.039
and when they drag something, they're not dragging it down

774
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:56.880
the road, They're dragging it from from the woods across

775
00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:00.880
the woods, deeper into the woods. And and that these

776
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:06.480
drag marks are like there's no gravel, like like six

777
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:10.719
six inches, So I'm thinking that's at least an elk

778
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:14.800
And because and it's being drug and it just completely

779
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:17.840
wipes out the gravel on the road. And we've seen

780
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:24.599
two of those. That's one thing that we noticed that area.

781
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:30.039
On On the very bizarre side, my dad found a

782
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:35.079
metal cylinder that he has never seen before. He described

783
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.719
as the longers. They never even heard what he's talking about.

784
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:42.320
And it probably weighed at least he said. He said

785
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:44.599
he could even budget, and he was going to show

786
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:48.360
me the next weekend and it was down, not down

787
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:50.800
in an area where you could not drive, you can

788
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.519
only walk, and it was down probably five hundred yards

789
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:58.960
and we went there the next weekend it was gone,

790
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:03.480
and my dad said it probably weighed at least two

791
00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:05.039
thousand pounds.

792
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:07.639
Oh wow, how big was it?

793
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:13.400
So he said it was probably he said it was

794
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:18.400
probably I think about eight foot long, about eight foot long,

795
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:22.519
but it was all like chrome cylinder and it had

796
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.840
some really weird markings on it, and it was kind

797
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.519
of laying off of the side like in a ditch.

798
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:35.719
And for it to be gone the next weekend was

799
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:39.519
really really strange because it was something so heavy and

800
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:43.119
we didn't see any indication where somebody tried to back

801
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.760
up a truck to get closer to it or anything

802
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:49.639
like that. So it's just that's just one of those

803
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:51.639
things we chalked up. Is weird, we don't know.

804
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:56.519
But also in the prospect.

805
00:50:56.000 --> 00:51:00.519
Area, yeah, the same area, were there.

806
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:01.519
Any pictures taken as a.

807
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:10.519
No, no, we no, my dad didn't have anything like that,

808
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:12.679
and he was just hoping to show me next the

809
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:18.320
next weekend. Absolutely he remembers it. He you know, I

810
00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:20.880
think he went home and he drew maybe drew a

811
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:22.800
picture of it and drew the simples took it to

812
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:24.119
a longer and the guy because I don't know what

813
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:29.039
you're talking about. It has nothing to do with logging. Yeah.

814
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:28.400
Wow.

815
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:31.639
But but one time I went up there with my

816
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:34.400
youngest son, which is my youngest son is not a hunter,

817
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:39.840
and I was there was some very unusual branch breaks

818
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:44.440
on a big tree, and so I wanted for perspective,

819
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.239
I wanted to take a picture of my son next

820
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:51.639
to these big branch breaks off the tree. I mean

821
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:53.760
there were there was the biggest, the big at the tree,

822
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:55.760
and so I took you know, I took a couple

823
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:59.199
of pictures and and and I showed this one lady

824
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:02.119
that she was she went up with us one time

825
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:05.079
and she said she's never seen an area like that.

826
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:06.920
Had so many breaks and what you know, a lot

827
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:10.079
of a lot of branch breaks and trees bent over

828
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:12.639
all kinds of stuff. She says, she's never seen anything

829
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:17.119
like it before. Well, I said, he that picture about

830
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:20.280
a year after I took that picture, and she said,

831
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:24.079
did you see what was in the background. I said no.

832
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:29.480
She goes look in the background, and you look in

833
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:33.960
the background and there's a clear head and shoulders just

834
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:39.840
crouched down. So I mean someone can say, oh, you

835
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:42.440
can say it's a stump, but it's head and shoulders.

836
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:46.960
It's like it's shaped like head and shoulders. And you know,

837
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:49.760
my my son, my still my son still has that picture.

838
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:54.199
But we went back. We went back to try to

839
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.519
find that area. We couldn't find it all. All those

840
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:02.039
branch breaks were gone, so we couldn't find that same

841
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:04.519
area to see if it was a stump. But it

842
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:07.199
looks like clear. I mean I showed it to a

843
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.360
lot of people and they're just like, they're like that,

844
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:17.480
that's pretty clear. That's head and shoulders there. But yeah,

845
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:18.559
it's an interesting area.

846
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:23.760
And that's the one where I believe you also sent

847
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:30.280
that to me on on Facebook Messenger is yeah, it's

848
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:32.280
I can see it's on the left side of the photo.

849
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:38.280
It's just wild. I mean it looks just like what

850
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:42.360
you would imagine if you see something just kind of

851
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.239
front view of something hunched over and dark in the

852
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:46.920
tree line.

853
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:47.880
Yeah.

854
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:55.079
Yeah, h like goodness, I'm guessing that that's a private photo. Correct.

855
00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:57.679
Yes, yeah.

856
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:01.360
Have you ever experienced anything out there where you're like,

857
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:06.360
this is not bigfoot, but maybe you know any weird

858
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:10.239
lights or anything, balls of light, anything like that in

859
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:13.599
the woods.

860
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:18.920
One time, I was in the area that was closer

861
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:22.800
to Diamond Lake. I believe it's probably the same area

862
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:28.079
where these guys were were at before. I was on

863
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:32.480
a side of a like a clearing, and I was

864
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:35.119
just walking. I think there was an old schedule on

865
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:36.880
the top of it that I was walking to get

866
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:42.480
to another area that I saw there before. And I

867
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:46.039
was there and all of a sudden, I was I

868
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:51.119
was rushed by a sound that was so loud that

869
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:57.360
it sound like like a jet taken off, And and

870
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:02.559
it wasn't that windy, and I didn't see anything. It

871
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:09.119
was a sound that that Yeah, it was so loud,

872
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:11.599
but I couldn't. I never did see anything, so that

873
00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:16.280
was it was just one of those weird things. But

874
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:17.960
as it startled me, it was so loud.

875
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:22.800
That is that's extremely weird. I mean that's that's a

876
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:27.400
pattern too that you hear in in accounts. Is the

877
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:32.960
loud sound that doesn't it shouldn't be there logically and

878
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:36.599
you can't find anything. Yeah, that's the culprit. So so

879
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:37.199
very weird.

880
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:44.480
Yeah, there's another instance that that I forgot. Like I said,

881
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:47.280
there's we had a lot of different weirdness and encounters.

882
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:52.360
But before before that we heard any you know, any

883
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.880
ones that whooped or anything. I went down to this

884
00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:01.119
area and I was and it's it's like a hole.

885
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:04.639
It was like it's in the canyon and there's water there.

886
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:07.639
And I went down there. I went down there before

887
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:10.719
and it was really dark and spooky. It was almost

888
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:15.199
like and it was like it was like junglelike. And anyways,

889
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.679
I was sitting on a clearing above that where anything

890
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:21.039
that comes in front of me I might be able

891
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:23.400
to get a shot at it. Wow. While I was

892
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:27.039
sitting there, I can hear something down in this canyon

893
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:32.440
area just making all kinds of noise, and I went back,

894
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:35.320
and I mean I heard elk. I heard elk. Heard

895
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.119
the elk going through the woods. I know what kind

896
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:40.440
of sound they make, that make a very steady sound.

897
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:43.440
It sounds like a car just driving through the woods.

898
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:47.400
But this was something where I can hear things being broke.

899
00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:52.000
It sounds like something was being beat up. It just

900
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:57.239
it just sounded vicious. And and I told my dad

901
00:56:57.280 --> 00:56:59.199
about it. I said, I said, God, it sound like

902
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:02.119
an elephant was down there. It was just and never

903
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:04.639
I never made any connection. I don't like, I wasn't

904
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:08.360
even thinking bigfoot, you know. I was just thinking something

905
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:11.000
was down there, you know. I mean, if it was

906
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:13.360
if it was bear, or had it been you know,

907
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:15.960
at least two big bears, if it was making that

908
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:19.000
much noise, I mean I could hear, like you know,

909
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:23.840
small trees breaking, branches breaking, just like you know, all

910
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:27.320
kinds of noise. So something was down there was was

911
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.360
making a lot of noise. And I and there isn't

912
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:32.679
that much bear activity to think that there would be

913
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.559
two bear. I mean, I've seen I seen one bear.

914
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.280
I've probably seen this maybe one bear the whole time

915
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:45.960
I was up there in the last forty years. So yeah,

916
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:49.639
there's not a big bear population, but something was down

917
00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:53.280
in this canyon making a whole bunch of noise, and I,

918
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:55.000
you know, told me about that about it, and we

919
00:57:55.079 --> 00:58:02.360
just kind of talked to that. Okay, you know, so

920
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:05.360
I gotta I gotta say one more, one more, one more,

921
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:12.320
one more. Little story. Okay, So my dad brought a

922
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:17.480
young hunter up there during elk season and this guy

923
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:19.760
was planning. He brought his wife and they were planning.

924
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:22.159
They had a real nice trailer, they had a bunch

925
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.119
of food. They were going to stay there the whole week.

926
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:28.079
So he said, so we knew that I was going

927
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:30.599
to snow the next morning. So he said, well, I

928
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:33.239
want to go from here to there. And it's really

929
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:37.239
it's really in the active area. This there's a there's

930
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.360
a definite active area. And they went right in the

931
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:44.800
middle of it. And we told them that, well, if

932
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:46.639
you can follow it, you're gonna if you go that

933
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:48.840
way enough, you're going to follow this road and we'll

934
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:53.239
meet you at that road in like three hours. And

935
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:55.800
and so after three hours we started calling for him,

936
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:57.840
are you are you heading in there? You know this

937
00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:02.199
and that we're calling for him nothing, And we stayed

938
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:08.639
there for another hour, nothing and it was until like

939
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:13.159
four o'clock that day. Daytime he showed up. His wife

940
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:18.880
was exhausted. He was exhausted, and he says, yeah, my

941
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:21.280
wife doesn't want to be here. So we're packing our

942
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:25.199
stuff a leaving and we're like, like, we kept on

943
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:28.280
asking what what do you mean? What's you were planning

944
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:32.800
on being here for the whole week? And he goes, well,

945
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:37.880
she got scared because she we saw a bear and

946
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:42.400
she says that was no bear. That was her immediate response.

947
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:45.320
She goes, that wasn't a bear, and he kind of laughed,

948
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:48.360
and we're like, well, why didn't you Why were you

949
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:51.599
not responding? He goes, because I lost one of my

950
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:55.960
walking talkies and these are high grade walking talkies. These

951
00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:00.840
were I'm probably eighty dollars a piece. And we're like, well,

952
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why don't you just call it and go go get it?

953
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:07.639
And he goes he is, no, it was too much

954
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:10.199
work to go through there, he is, it's just better

955
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:14.159
off that I'm just going to pack and leave. So

956
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:18.440
you know, he lost he lost a walkie TALKI. They

957
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:20.760
boss up and that he says a bear and his

958
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.840
wife said, no, that was no bear. And they they

959
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:26.400
packed up immediately and got out of there.

960
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:32.400
Oh wow, oh Man, Prospect area, Yeah.

961
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:32.320
That same yeap, that same area.

962
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:36.960
Wow Yeah, that that area sounds sounds pretty pretty wild

963
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.719
for sure. I'm gonna have to keep it an eye

964
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out for reports regarding the Prospect area. But wow, t W.

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01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:49.000
I mean, you've got you've got a wealth of stories

966
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.199
from over the years about things that you've experienced. I

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