Sept. 30, 2025

He Looked Up — and Saw Bigfoot Staring Back! | Iowa

He Looked Up — and Saw Bigfoot Staring Back! | Iowa
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Season 1

What happens when a group of regular people across the U.S. come face-to-face with the unexplainable — from towering hairy figures to creatures that shouldn’t exist at all?



In this chilling episode of Bigfoot Society, you’ll hear not one, but multiple firsthand accounts of terrifying encounters with Bigfoot and Dogman. From Van Buren County, Iowa — where a young man locked eyes with an 8-foot-tall Sasquatch in Lacey-Keosauqua State Park — to eerie sightings in Cumberland, Kentucky and even a Bigfoot digging in a casino dumpster in Oklahoma… this episode spans decades and locations. Listen as everyday people recount experiences that left them running, crying, and questioning everything.

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You're listening to bigfla Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. So you've got some really interesting

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comments you're putting down there about southeast Iowa, I'm very interested.

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Yes, where I live in Mike County. It's close to

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the Missouri borderline and Iowa and I moved I'm to

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this county back in nineteen eighty eight and I was

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going to the highest school here and we have a

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we have a state park that's right across the river

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from from my town. And I met this kid in

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my classroom and he's like, Hey, you want to hang

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out with me, we'll go We'll go into the state

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park and I and you know, he's like, I gotta.

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I gotta place it.

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I like to hang out there, right, And I'm like okay.

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So he let me borrow his brother's bike and we

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go across the bridge because where I live is the

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Des Moines River and you can actually look this up. Anyways,

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we go across the river or the river across the bridge,

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and we go right right into the state park. It's

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like right across the bridge and right into the state park.

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And we go in there pretty way. Like I said,

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it's pretty deep in there, and it's, like I said,

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it's state park, full of woods and everything. And so

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we get off our bikes and we go down into

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the woods, down down and over this ravine. We're walking

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around and down there is this like water stream. There's

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like this water stream, and so we're walking down along

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this water stream and I'm like, hey man, so how

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much further is this spot you want to show me? Oh,

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it's up here. Ways, we're getting close. I'm like, okay, Well,

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we keep going along and now we're like really getting

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deep in the into these woods and we're I know,

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we're pretty good far away from our bikes. I mean

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we left them up on the up by the road

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and we went down into this ravine and now we're

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like back in the woods pretty far. Anyways, I see

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that the stream, you know, is kind of cluttered with

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you know, old leaves from last year's winter or last

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weird last year's fall. And this is like around September now,

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because I moved into this town around h September, which

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school started. So anyways, so it's around September, around the

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first part of September. So I'm cleaning out the junk

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out of this stream, trying to you know, let the

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water go faster. So I'm been down and I'm cleaning

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the water, the leaves and junk out of the out

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of the stream, and he goes on around. He goes

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on and keeps on walking. All of a sudden he

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comes barreling past me, running as fast as he can go.

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I mean, he's he's booking it, and he's running so

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fast that he runs in the stream and he splashes

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me with water. I'm like, hey, man, what are you doing?

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I said, you just got me wet. Why are you

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running like that? And he turns back his head and

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he stops for a second, and he's like, run, man,

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there's a bear up that way. You need to run,

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like right now. Run. I'm like, I stand up and

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I look at him. I'm like, dude, there's no bears

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in Iowa. He's like, I just saw one. You need

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to run. I'm like, okay, curiosity, you know, curiosity killed cat.

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So I go where he just came from and I'm

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looking around. Now. I'm going really slow because if there

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is I don't want to, you know, allure it to

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my position. So I'm going really slow, and I go

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up and I go around kind of like a half

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like I said, I'm down in this ravine and I

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go around this like half curve, and all of a sudden,

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I hear this twig snap above my head or about

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it's about probably, oh, I don't know, probably ten foot

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in front of me, up on the hill. And I

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look up there and all of a sudden, standing there

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looking down at me is this big, tall, hairy thing

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looking at me. And I got about probably five seconds

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to register in my mind what I was seeing before

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I decided to turn around and book myself. And I'm

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looking at this thing and it is very very tall.

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I noticed that it was probably good, oh, I don't know,

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eight foot tall or so had long arms that went

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cleared down. Its hands went like cleared down by its knees,

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and it was just hairy brown hair all over it.

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And before I turned around to run, because everything in

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my being was the fight or flight mode is, I said, really,

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I said, really loud to this thing, You're not a bear.

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And I turned around and I ran as fast as

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I could down the stream where my friend just came from,

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and I caught up to him. I was running so fast,

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and I told him run, man, that is not a bear.

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And he's like, what I said, don't stop, run, it's

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behind me. I said, just keep running. So we run

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and I'm like, where's the bikes And he's like, I

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think it's up this way. So we like hauled up

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up up this hill and it was pretty steep hill,

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and I said, well, just move, man, we need to

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get out of here. So we got on the bikes

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and we went so fast out of that park. We

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went across the bridge and straight to his house. We

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didn't even we were so scared. We threw the bikes

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down and ran into his house. And we got up

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into his room and he's like, he's like, what did

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you see? I said, well, I don't know, what did

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you see? He said it looked like a bear to me.

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I said, man, I went back, see what you saw,

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because there's not supposed to be bear in Iowa. So

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so I said, well, he's like, well, what did you see? Then?

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I said, man, this thing that I saw was standing

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on two legs, and it was very tall and very hairy,

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and it had human looking hands, and it was very

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tall and hairy. I said, man, from what I observed

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in that five seconds that I was looking at this thing,

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that was a sasquatch. He's like, what I said, a sasquatch?

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You know, a bigfoot? Have you never heard of a bigfoot?

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And he's like, oh yeah, I said, yeah, that's what

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that was. He's like, nobody's going to believe us if

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you said something about that. And he's like, I'm not

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going to ever tell anybody that. They'll think we're crazy.

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It's nice, probably a good probably a good ten foot

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away from.

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Did it look more human or more something else.

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Let's just say it was standing on two legs, and

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it was really tall with long arms, and it was

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very very hairy, with hair brown brown hair all over,

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even on its arms. The hair was hanging off of

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its arms and had his arms was down at its

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side looking at me.

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Do you remember anything specific about its face?

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It? It had hair in its face. It was so hairy.

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The hair was like matted over its face. But I

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can I could tell that it was focused on me

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because looking down at me, so it could actually I

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guess it could see me through its hairs because looking

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at me.

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Can I guess the county this is an almost one

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hundred percent know which one it is?

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It's Van Buren County, Yeah, exactly.

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Oh well I wanted to guess. But can I guess

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the state park that it's Lacey Kiyosaka?

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Right?

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Well?

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Yeah, how did you know that?

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It's because I have spent hours talking to people about

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this county and about that state park and about Shameek

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State Forest. That area is nuts on there, my friend.

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It's crazy. That state park is also known for a

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lot of dog man activity. And there are so many

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people in that county that have had experiences over the

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years and that have had them around their house and

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that we're feeding them. And it's just I don't know

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what is up with that county. But you've got bigfoot

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activity like absolutely crazy down there.

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Well, you ain't whistling Dixie, my friend. It's real. I'm

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not getting away from If it wanted me, it could

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have had me.

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And this was our late eighties. You said, yeah, like

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eighty eight, Yeah, yeah, eighty eight, eighty nine. In the comments,

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you were saying that people are having their trailers or

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RVs rocked back and forth. Can you elaborate on that.

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Yeah, there's been multiple since eighty nine, eighty eight, eighty nine.

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When I've moved here, there was there was many reports

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from campers people that, uh, like I said, I made

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friends with the locals, and some of the locals that

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would camp in there would say that at nighttime their

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their campers would literally rock be rocking by something that

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was good enough to rocket. And one report said that, uh,

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something literally clawed the side of their their camper and

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the next morning there was claw marks.

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Wow, oh my goodness, this is intense, dude.

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There's also been reports from campers who didn't even stay

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though the whole night. As soon as something was happening,

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they leave, They got they left. They even told the

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DNR we're leaving, We're out of here.

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Oh wow, that's that's wild.

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Do you.

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Have you also heard about so you know, like Benton's Sport.

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Yes, I've heard there's a woman. I actually heard about

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this woman who claims that there's a family of them

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that lives in her back forty that she watches the

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little ones play.

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Yeah, little yep.

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I've interviewed her two or three different times. Her story

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is crazy. I was gonna say crazy. It's not crazy, though,

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it's amazing. She doesn't live there anymore, so she is

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not there. But yeah, her story is incredible. I was

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also I was also going to ask if you've heard

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anything going on in the Bent Support campground across the river.

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Yes, that have I heard about that one. Yeah. Like

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I said, I've been here forty six years and so yeah,

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now's there's lots of locals that report Okay.

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There's.

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I've heard that area that campground is very active, but

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I've never heard any actual reports. Do you can you

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remember anything that has actually happened in that campground?

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Well, like I said, many many reports of people leaving

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in the middle of the night as soon as something

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would happen. There's actually been people that are crazy and

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me to actually have a litteral tent and because there's

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a section in the park where you can actually put

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up a tent, and multiple people have had something like

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pressed down on the tent and they'd come flying out

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of there and actually leave their stuff behind to get

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out of there.

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Well, and this is Lacy Kiyosakwa you're talking about now, Yes,

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Lacy Park. Okay?

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Is that so?

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Is that just the campground? I'm looking at the map

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right now, it's or is there like primitive camping in

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that area?

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Yeah, there's a spot in the about the middle of

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the park where you can park your your RVs and

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then there's a section where you can actually pitch a tent.

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But I wouldn't advise you to pitch a tent anywhere.

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Yeah, you know.

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That's too too deep. Yeah, it's too dangerous.

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I've never heard of that stuff lippening in Iowa. That's wild.

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But yeah, these things will walk right up into the heck.

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I was camping out there back in twenty fifteen. I

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went out there camping with my mom and stuff, and

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we were we were in an RV and this one

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particular night, uh I was outside sitting on the picnic

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bench and I smoked a cigarette and uh I was

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looking down toward where you can actually pitch tenths down

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that that direction right in front of me, and then

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right to the side of me, or right about pretty

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much categoria.

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From the.

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Parking spot is a is a restroom area where you

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can actually take a shower in there if you want

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to or whatever. Anyway, sure, I'm sitting there smoking. I'm

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smoking a cigarette, and there's a there's a night there's

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a night lamp that comes on at night, right, so

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it's nighttime. I'm sitting out there smoking cigarette, and I

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swear on everything, I'm sitting there, and all of a sudden,

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out of the shadows coming toward me was this big,

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huge one of them again. And I mean this one

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was about the same, oh, I'd say about the same

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size as the one I saw back in eighty eighty eight.

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And he was not afraid to walk straight up there.

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He just would not come exactly really into the light

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area because you know how the light comes down in this.

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All.

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Absolutely, and he was huge, I mean, broad shouldered, long arms,

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the whole thing. And he was standing there and I

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went from smoking my cigarette to cupping it like you

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you know when you're hunting, so you know, nothing can see.

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I cut my cigarette and I kind of like froze.

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I did not want him to see me, and it

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started kind of like looking around, and right kind of

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corner from us was a camper got a bunch of guys.

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They had their RV right close to the actual restroom area,

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and they had a bonfire, and of course they were

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sitting out their joke and making it, and this thing

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looked toward them, looked over toward that area, and then

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he went around the restroom building. I watched him move

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really kind of fast, with like two steps. He was

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behind behind the restroom area and disappeared. I don't know

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where he went, where that thing went, but in two

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moves he was behind the restroom building. That's how big

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their step is, I guess, because in two moves he

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was beyond the building.

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Can you reach out to me at my email just

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so I have or I guess I can follow you

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on this too, but I would love to be able

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to contact you. I guess I can make sure I'm

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following you right now. Yep, I'm good. Okay. Do you

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know people that are having interactions with Bigfoot in that

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county current day?

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Not as I not lately I haven't really, Like I said,

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I after those two encounters, I kind of try to

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stay or avoid going to the park. I kind of like,

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if I go out there, I try to go out

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there when it's daylight, when it's almost sunset or whatever,

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early morning, I try to avoid. I figured, he stays

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where he is, and I'll stay where I am.

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Right, absolutely, So, you've had two different sightings over the

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years in this one park area.

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Yeah, in the same part.

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So yeah, that's amazing. That is absolutely amazing. It has

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been a privilege to hear what you've experienced over the years.

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That's an area that I do want to go to

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one day. It's on the list. It's a few hours

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to get down there.

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Still there, I hope to make it.

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I've talked to a few people from Van Buren over

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the years, and they all have crazy things to say

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about Bigfoot or dog man or giants back in the forties.

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Actually, what's your name? I don't even know what to

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call you. What's your name?

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Jeremiah?

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Okay, hey, Jeremiah. I actually encountered a dog man once

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down here in Key in this county once and it

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it freaked me out, dude, because I didn't think there

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was such a thing. You know, you know, you figure,

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you know, uh, Hollywood, you know shows you you know,

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the wolf Man or whatever you know, or wear wolves

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on TV. You don't, you know, you don't think that

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that's real. You know, you think that that's you know,

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it's just Hollywood. But I saw one with my own eyes,

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a dog guy, and it was real and it I

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was like, oh man, I had to blink because I

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was like, this can't be real. And it looked at

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me and they had big ears on top of its head,

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of the full long wolf mouth full of teeth, and yeah,

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this thing was standing on two legs, dude. And I

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was like, whoa. I backed up. Luckily it wasn't hungry

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enough or something. I was like, good now. I was like,

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I put my hands up. I'm like, no, I don't

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want nothing to do with you, buddy. I couldn't believe what.

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I was seeing was that in the state park two.

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No, that was actually see I back in eighty nine,

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I lived on the outskirts of my town, kind of

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like out towards the country what they call like tree line.

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It wasn't like like woods woods, but kind of like

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a tree line. That has like like some some wood

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in it. But yeah, but we had we had dogs

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in the backyard, you know, and I had a at night,

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I go out and tend to them. Well, the dogs

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were going to fit this one night and uh my

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mom told me go outside and tend to the dogs.

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He's like, have you tend to do the dogs yet?

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And I said, no, not yet.

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Mom.

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She's like, well, they're throwing a fit out there. You

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need to go out there and tend to them, make them,

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make them shut up. Said okay, So you know, I

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didn't think anything of it. So I was like, and

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I go out out my door and we have this

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wrap around porch that we lived in this house, so

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it had a wrap around porch and then it had

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a divider screen door, and then it had the dog

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food right right inside the divider, and then out out

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the door was the backyard for for the dogs. And

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we had this extension shed that was a attached to

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that dividing screen door, and there was a shed there

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and then of course the car was parked right there

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and right there in front of that shed, and there's

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this big bush that grew up beside the shed. Anyways,

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I go out the door, and I go to take

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go walk around the porch to go into that divider,

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and all of a sudden, that bush started shaking. And

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now it's not windy outside, I mean, there's no wind,

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but this bush started shaking, and I'm like, what the heck?

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And then of course the dogs are just throwing a fit,

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and all of a sudden, I see this dark shadow

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thing come jumping out of the bush and land right

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beside my mom's car, and I'm like, what was that?

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Because when it hit the ground, it actually made it

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made like a thumping sound. It was so heavy it

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made the like a third Like I'm like, what is that?

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And all of a sudden, I see movement, and I

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see gray hairs like sticking kind of up. And then

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all of a sudden, I see ears come up, and

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all of a sudden, I see, uh a long snout

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was in the ears or like real on top of

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its head and it's mouth. I was like, oh my gosh,

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that's a who off. And all this sudden I was like,

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I guess it must have heard he gasped. When I

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saw it, I was like, whoa, And so I backed up.

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I backed up against the house. I was standing on

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the porch and I backed up against the house. I'm like, whoa,

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I don't want nothing to do with whatever you are,

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And so I started trying to go round the wall

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of the house back to the front door to get

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away from it. Luckily, this thing just kept watching me,

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and it kind of had its teeth showing, like you know,

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it's like giving me a threat, like don't come any closer.

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And I was like kept backing away. Well, all of

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a sudden, it decided to bolt from behind my mom's

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car out into the the actual road where I could

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get a real good look at this thing. And I'm

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telling you, this thing was about seven foot. It had

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no tail, but it like it looked like a uh like,

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but it was hair all over it, and I could

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tell that it was a dog man or what do

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you want to call a wear a wolf because the

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back end side of it looked like a human rear

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in but it was all hairy, but it had had

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long hair all over its bo It had hair all

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over its body, and its hands were had long claws

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and it had hands, not paws hands, and his face

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was stretched out like like a wolf look like wear wolf,

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like like you see you on TV. Had the long snow,

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the big long years hair, hands were claws, fingernails had

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were claws. H and then it hopped away. What's so

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weird is it was on all fours. It went onto

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all fours and then leaked like a dog and ran away.

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It was I thought I was seeing a thing. And

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that's the end of that story. That's the only time

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I ever saw one.

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That's wild, wild stuff man. And what's uh, I'm just

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say thank you so much for sharing what you know

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about that county. Is this has really helped me because

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it's an area I've been looking into and I really

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appreciate you sharing.

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What you know.

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So yeah, if y'all don't believe where wolves are real,

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they're real. I saw one. I mean I thought it

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was Hollywood. You know that makes that up. But I

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saw one as I see you.

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Man, mm hmm.

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Well, it was a pleasure meet. Let's keep in touch.

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It's good to know a person now that knows a

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lot about that county. And I just want to say

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thank you for coming up.

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Man, You're welcome. And yeah, like I said, it's kind

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of hard to deny what you see. I mean, I

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even took a moment, and I was looking at this

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thing for quite a long time, so I had time

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to compute what I was seeing, So it wasn't like

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a I was hallucinating. My mind was literally computing. That

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isn't normal. Well, these things are so bold, the the

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bigfoots are so bold in State Park that there's also

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been reports of people that go down toward the lake

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or whatever, they'll have rocks being throwed into the water,

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like they're trying to throw rocks at people. Yeah, Lacy, Yeah, okay,

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there's been people that have had rocks, big rocks like

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splash into the water and scare people away.

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My goodness, this is wild. Belle says in the chat

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that she's heard Oh okay, yeah, she's I don't know

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if she's saying she's heard that from the same area

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or she's heard that they throw rocks, which I've heard

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that as well from other places too. But wow, good

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good stuff. This is good stuff.

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Yeah.

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I am going to uh my, my headphones are almost

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about dead. But I just want to say thank you

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for chat and hopefully we get the chat again in

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the future. Sometimes.

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Okay, thank you, I thank you. Hi.

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I wrote my story. A friend of mine and I

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were coming from Seattle, Washington one February in the early nineties,

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and we were roads for black ice, and I was

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being very cautious and driving very slow, and we got

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to blow it pass, and I got this uncomfortable feeling

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like something around the next corner would be something that

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I didn't really want to see. So I slowed way

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down and there was a person that we thought it

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was a person originally standing and where he was standing

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there were some pilasters where they keep the snow back,

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and these things were eight ten feet and he was

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right up there at the top of it. He had

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like looked like a fur thing. His hair was long

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and disheveled, and I had long arms, and I think

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I saw him with a stick. I'm not sure, but

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every way and the bottom he looked like fur I

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thought first it was just a lot of things went on.

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It was just fast, fast, fast, and she had a

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different feeling of diamond I did. She thought he was

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hurt and we should stop, and I just said no

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and kept going, actually speeding up, which was dangerous. And

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it was like a creek thing on one side, which

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was probably frozen. But I had the feeling if he

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wanted to. He could just appear right in our back seat,

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so it was crazy. I got more details would come

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to me and with her after we talked, but it

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was out of our memory for like ten plush years.

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And then one time she called and said, was that

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you that I was with? And I said, no, I

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don't think so. But then I remembered. It all came

465
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:21.480
back and it was fascinating that it took ten years

466
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.880
for us to remember something. Was that terrifying to me?

467
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:29.039
And she was overly concerned. She said that we'd left

468
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:32.119
someone that needed help, even if it wasn't a man,

469
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.400
we should have stopped, and I did not stop. We

470
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:40.759
startled him. His eyes were slanted, and my memory is

471
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:44.599
kind of crazy. It was almost like a yellow green eyes.

472
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:49.000
I'm not sure about that. It was dusk, and he

473
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:53.880
was tall, long arms, long, long, long arms, and his

474
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:59.359
body was then and I could see almost it but

475
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:03.400
looked like a chest, but it wasn't. And he was

476
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:10.400
covered in here, especially at the bottom part. And anyway,

477
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.119
that's what we saw. So if you're interested beyond this,

478
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:14.639
let me know.

479
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.760
Oh my goodness, hold on, I need I need to

480
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:24.719
talk to this individual. Immediately had our surveillance telesecurity that

481
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.880
a big foot was eating out of the casino dumpster.

482
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:32.920
Hey sir, how are you doing?

483
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:34.239
I'm good.

484
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:35.679
Was this happening in Oklahoma?

485
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:36.719
Yes?

486
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:38.559
Is this recent?

487
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:40.880
This was actually?

488
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.320
Let see, I started to work the casino about two

489
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.320
thousand and eight, I want to say it was about

490
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:48.159
twenty ten.

491
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:50.119
Yep.

492
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.400
Absolutely? And was this is this the wind Star World Casino?

493
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.039
No, this is a gold river in Anadarko Gold River.

494
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:01.159
Really.

495
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:04.320
Yeah, and right.

496
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:11.119
Below it is actually the oldest federally operated residential boarding

497
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.440
school Native American right below the casino.

498
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:22.079
Okay, I'm looking this up real quick. Oh got it? Okay,

499
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.400
so in a darko let me see where this is.

500
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:33.320
Oh wow, I believe this is not the first report

501
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:38.679
of a bigfoot being seen around a casino dumpster. Let

502
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:45.159
me look real quick. I think there was another one too. Yep,

503
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:49.199
this also happened at the Lucky Star casino as well.

504
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:56.280
Can you share any more info about your what happened

505
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:58.079
at your casino?

506
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:03.880
So it was probably about two o'clock, two o'clock in

507
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:10.079
the morning, and one of the surveillance workers had called

508
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:12.880
the manager on duty and told him to come to

509
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:16.840
the surveillance room, and so you know, the manager on

510
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.239
duty always gets called to the surveillance room, so we

511
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:20.079
really didn't think.

512
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:20.639
Much about it.

513
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:24.599
But usually after that happens, the manager on duty will

514
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:26.639
come back and share something with us, you know, that

515
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.519
they're watching a patron or there's some kind of activity

516
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.400
going on somewhere and wants us to be aware. So

517
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.000
he didn't come. He didn't come find us, didn't come

518
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:42.400
find security. There was two guards working that night, and

519
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.559
a little bit later after we close up the casino,

520
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.679
that's whenever the manager on duty is getting ready to

521
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.679
leave and told us, you know what had happened.

522
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:54.320
He said that.

523
00:36:56.079 --> 00:37:03.119
Right next to the dumpster was like a real thick

524
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:10.159
area of trees, and the surveillance saw and the manager

525
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:17.079
on duty saw this bigfoot stepped over the fence, and

526
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.360
whenever he stepped over the fence, he started digging around

527
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.960
into the side of that dumpster. There's like a sliding

528
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.280
door and he could just see the silhouette of it.

529
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.320
But you know, it was big. And those dumpsters that

530
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.679
we had back there, there were the tall the tall

531
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:36.119
square box kind of dumpsters, and so that dumpster was

532
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.559
big too. But it was taller than that, So it

533
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.880
was probably maybe about almost eight feet, I would think,

534
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:47.239
and that's just my estimate. But we went back there,

535
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:49.079
you know, just to kind of look around.

536
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.920
After the casino was closed, and we noticed some hair

537
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:59.320
that was on that bob wire not too far from it.

538
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.679
Wow, you did you try to take any of that here?

539
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:03.880
Or did you just leave it there?

540
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.639
No, we just we just left it there. It's one

541
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:08.800
of those things where.

542
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.920
You know, as we hear about those all the time,

543
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:18.079
those encounters, you know, people seeing them like around here

544
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:19.000
around Anadarko.

545
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:19.960
Uh.

546
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:22.559
There's actually a place not too far from here which

547
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:27.000
is called hog Creek, and you know, a lot of

548
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.679
our elders they always see, you know, see that bigfoot

549
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:33.519
down there, and we're thinking it's probably the same one

550
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:37.920
that you know that gets the dogs all worked up

551
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.239
down there, and you know that'll come and you know,

552
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:46.400
just kind of be mischievous around the houses around around

553
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:50.679
hog Creek, and you know, it's one of those things

554
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.840
where we just you know, we were we were never

555
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:56.679
told to really interact with it, I guess you would say.

556
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.440
And so a lot of that comes from, you know,

557
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.199
our tribal superstitions too.

558
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:03.159
To where.

559
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:06.760
You know, it would be considered like a bad omen

560
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.079
to you know, disturb you know that creature.

561
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:13.000
Yeah.

562
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:17.239
Absolutely. Do you know if there was any footage captured

563
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:19.119
of of the big Foot at the casino?

564
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:24.400
I'm I'm more than positive there is, but you know,

565
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.119
it's it would be one of those things where you know,

566
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:31.320
it would be under the Indian Gaming Commission, you know,

567
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.360
and all the red tape. I've never been in that

568
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:38.559
surveillance room after working there for you know, five years,

569
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:40.960
and I don't even know what that surveillance room even

570
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:47.760
looks like. So it's it's really secretive and closely guarded,

571
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:50.960
you know, the workings and where the cameras are and

572
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:55.119
where they're faced, you know, for obvious reasons.

573
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:58.320
No, absolutely, I mean, and that makes total sense being

574
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:02.679
at a casino. But you know, it's very similar to

575
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:09.880
the story of the Lucky Star sighting, which actually happened

576
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.440
in two thousand and two, just so you're aware of that.

577
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:15.119
So you've got that one in two thousand and two,

578
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:19.440
yours is in twenty ten. If you ever do get

579
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:24.440
I guess in the future, if you ever get to

580
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:27.519
become friends with a person in that room that might

581
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:31.639
know that like, yeah, we have that on file. I

582
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:35.239
would love to see it. That's a big if though,

583
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:40.000
I'm sure that would probably never happen, but if you do,

584
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:47.639
you're welcome to reach out my emails Bigfoot societygmail dot com. Okay, wow,

585
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.320
it's a fascinating story. Thank you so much for coming up.

586
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.239
And would I be able to use this audio on

587
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:57.840
the Bigfoot podcast I have?

588
00:40:58.800 --> 00:40:59.880
Oh yeah, feel free too?

589
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:03.519
Okay, perfect, Well, thank you for coming up, sir. Okay,

590
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:09.679
thank you, my goodness. That's incredible. What a way to

591
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:12.840
start the night. I love it.

592
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.960
Okay. So I was about twelve, me and my cousin.

593
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:21.679
Where we lived, well, i'll live in the mountains I

594
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:25.320
live on I lived on a what was called sand Hill.

595
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:28.320
It was a steep mountain and so you could look

596
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.800
over and see the whole town. And there was a football.

597
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:32.000
Game that night.

598
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.119
So me and my cousin was sitting on the bench

599
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:39.199
facing the football game, and uh, you know, we couldn't

600
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:41.760
see it up close, but we liked to hear the

601
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:45.079
cannons and just watch over the town and stuff. And

602
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.639
the mountains were directly behind us, and we heard the

603
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:54.199
awfulest wrestling you ever hear in your life, limbs, breaking leaves,

604
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.800
you know, all of it. And we looked back and

605
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:02.480
from behind one of the trees there was a bigfoot

606
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.199
popping around looking at us. She took off running to

607
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:11.199
her house. I took off running into my house. And

608
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:15.000
that was the last time I've seen one, and it

609
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:18.079
scared the locke out of us. Vogues, but it was

610
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:21.079
Now that I'm older and I think about it, it

611
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:25.480
was an exhilarating experience because it's very rare to have

612
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.960
that opportunity to see something like that.

613
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:34.079
No, it really is. What year abouts was that?

614
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:39.400
That would probably been in about nineteen ninety one?

615
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:43.079
Okay, Gosha And did you say it was near an

616
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:44.440
area called sand.

617
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:50.360
Hill Yeah, sand Hill Road in Cumberland, Kentucky.

618
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:59.800
Sure, take a look Cumberland, Kentucky. You know that sounds

619
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:03.440
awfully familiar. I believe I've interviewed. I think that's come

620
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.719
up in an interview. I can't remember specifics. I'm working

621
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:07.880
on my map right now.

622
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:14.360
A lot of sightings here there, oh yeah, mm hmm.

623
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:19.719
My my family, several of my family members have seen it.

624
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:26.199
My my ex husband seeing one. There's a lot of

625
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:27.599
sightings around that area.

626
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:33.000
And are these sightings that are similar to you where

627
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.679
they just see a quick glimpse of it, or are

628
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.719
they a bit more intense or what kind of things

629
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:39.239
are happening.

630
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:46.039
My cousin seeing one full body, like he said, it

631
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:50.440
wasn't one hundred feet in front of him, and but

632
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.360
he didn't share very much of it. He just he

633
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:57.199
swears that he's seen it, and it was right below

634
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:02.559
where I seen one. And it was years later later

635
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.719
after I seen the one that I seen when he

636
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:13.000
saw his, and and my ex husband used to live

637
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.159
on the same road, and that's where he saw his,

638
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:19.599
but he was back in the mountains. He was literally

639
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:24.280
back in the mountains when see, we live on a mountain,

640
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:28.360
but me and my cousin were where all the houses

641
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.599
were in the mountain was directly behind us, and there

642
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.360
was no mistaking it though you could just as plain

643
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:39.679
as they see that thing. And then the one my

644
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:45.400
cousin seen was directly off the road as well. But

645
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:48.519
the one my ex husband seen, and it could be

646
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:51.639
the same one. I don't know how many years they

647
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:56.280
live or whatever, but it's just in that little congested

648
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.960
area that these us three, well four, because my cousin

649
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:03.639
and seen it too. My cousin that was with me,

650
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:07.360
she's seen it too. But then my other cousin, he's

651
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:11.559
a male, and he was. It was years later, And

652
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:14.559
it was years later when my ex husband saw the

653
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:18.760
one he saw, but he was in the mountains and

654
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:21.679
he didn't. He said that he's never got out of

655
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.519
the mountains so quick in all his life.

656
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:27.119
Thinking back to when you had your quick sighting, do

657
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:29.679
you remember any details about what you saw.

658
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.519
It was kind of peeking around from behind a tree,

659
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:38.400
and it had to stand eight nine feet tall, and

660
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:41.920
it was a lighter color. It wasn't a very it

661
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:46.840
was dark, but like a I would say, like a

662
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:56.239
lot brown color. And it's just it's the scariest. That forehead.

663
00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:02.599
It had that big pronounced forehead and it just you

664
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.679
know when you the picture you got behind you like

665
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:12.360
that forehead is very similar to but it was more,

666
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.000
I feel a lot more big.

667
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:21.880
But yeah, it was.

668
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:27.719
It was huge, and it didn't well, we were, just,

669
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:33.119
like I said, twelve twelve years old, so of course

670
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:36.280
it scared us away, but it wasn't scared by us,

671
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:38.239
not one little bit.

672
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:43.480
Sure. Yeah, Oh my goodness, wow, that that is intense

673
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.199
that's an area I need to look more into. Thank

674
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:47.760
you for coming up. Do you mind if I use

675
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:51.320
this audio of our conversation on my Bigfoot podcast?

676
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:52.920
I have no not at all.

677
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:55.760
All right, Well, thanks for coming up, Jess, and thanks

678
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:56.840
for the support.

679
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:57.079
For having me.

680
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:03.519
I'm gonna try to get lesser up here real quick.

681
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:19.000
Dudeh wow, Okay, So to me, those look legit, and

682
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.920
I'll tell you why. Right off the bat, it looks

683
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.119
like you can see a mid tartl break.

684
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:27.119
Yeah, that was myot too.

685
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:31.920
Yeah, where it gets pushed up, you know what I mean? Yeah, dude,

686
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:34.320
and you can see the toes on the top.

687
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:35.920
I don't know.

688
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:39.159
That looks legit to me, dude. Yeah, yeah, nice.

689
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:41.920
The rock was really hard, like I stomped down. I

690
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:45.199
couldn't even make any sort of indentation in it at all,

691
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:49.280
So whatever did that had to be pretty heavy when

692
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.159
you look at it and I pan up towards the river.

693
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.159
One thing I didn't notice is I think there's a

694
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.119
second track, Like if you just look towards the river

695
00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:59.840
once once I kind of pan up. When I saw

696
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:01.280
it later, I was kind of like, oh, I think

697
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:03.280
there might be another track. I didn't see it while

698
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:05.440
I was there because I was really focused on this one.

699
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:12.480
But yeah, I mean, definitely definitely could be. But man,

700
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.639
that one that you have right there is pretty awesome,

701
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:19.000
good stuff. Thank you for Sharon Man.

702
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.320
I think it was around February this year.

703
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.880
Yeah, it looks like it was February twentieth of this

704
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:26.679
year at nine to forty eight in the morning, I

705
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:27.559
would guess.

706
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.440
Yeah, I was out there for a work assignment taking photos.

707
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.519
And yeah, I've had some other weird stuff too, happened

708
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:35.280
kind of like the Bend area and then also up

709
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.639
by Mount Saint Helens, but I haven't actually seen one,

710
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:44.000
but definitely had some stuff that I can't really explain, so.

711
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:46.920
Just like heard stuff for what kind of things.

712
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:52.079
I go backpacking up by Mount Saint Helens, And so

713
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:53.559
the first time I went up there, and I'm not

714
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.199
really going to give the spot away because it's kind

715
00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:59.360
of my backpacking spot, but the first time my buddy

716
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.280
took me up there, we were hiking up. There was

717
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:04.320
still a little bit of snow on the ground, and

718
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:06.480
we were coming around a corner. It was kind of dusk,

719
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.280
that kind of you know blue hour when you can't

720
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.400
really see that well, so I go around a corner,

721
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:14.840
I've got my head lamp on and just kind of

722
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:18.039
up this hill like a like a little ridge, I

723
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:21.440
see these two eyes and I'm thinking, like, you know,

724
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:24.320
elk or deer or something. And it was really weird

725
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:27.400
because they went way up in the like in the air,

726
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:31.639
kind of like pointing at me, didn't make a sound,

727
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:35.880
turned away from me, and then just disappeared, no sound whatsoever.

728
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:41.159
And the only other thing that I could even like

729
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:43.719
think that it might be was maybe it was an

730
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:46.639
owl that was on the ground and like took off,

731
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:48.599
but it was just so smooth and the way that

732
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:51.360
it kind of got up, I just couldn't see any

733
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.760
sort of silhouette or anything is it was just too.

734
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:56.599
Dark, but it was. It was weird.

735
00:49:56.639 --> 00:50:00.559
And on that same, uh, that same trip, well, I've

736
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:03.159
gone backpacking by myself. I think I was about ten

737
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:07.199
miles in and I kept whipping around because I kept

738
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:11.320
hearing like what I couldn't It was like talking or mumbling,

739
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:13.199
but I couldn't tell what was being said. And I

740
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:17.719
literally like whipped around multiple times like trying to catch

741
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:22.960
somebody behind me. But when I started hiking up that trail,

742
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:26.960
the other weird thing. There was a huge it looked

743
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:30.599
like a ginormous piece of like human hoop, like right

744
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.880
in the middle of the trail. It was probably and

745
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:34.400
I should have taken a picture. I just didn't even

746
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.639
think about it. But I mean, it was at least

747
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:38.280
a foot long.

748
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:41.599
It was a huge Was it in a pile or

749
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:42.679
was it laid out straight?

750
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.679
It was like a log. It was like laid out straight.

751
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:48.719
You were right in the middle of it. Oh my goodness.

752
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:49.679
Yeah.

753
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:51.199
I just thought it was weird that it was right

754
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:54.840
in the middle of the trail. But yeah, so that's

755
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:55.880
kind of that area.

756
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:01.639
And then down near Bend, I photogra this race sometimes

757
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:03.280
it is called the Cascade Lakes Run. It's a two

758
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:08.039
hundred mile relay. But they stopped near the Wikiup Reservoir.

759
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:08.880
But I was there.

760
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:12.800
This must have been two and a half three years ago,

761
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:15.559
but I was. I had my girlfriend at the time

762
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:18.199
with me, and so it's like two or three am

763
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:21.079
and I'm following Google Maps to get to the reservoir,

764
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:23.679
trying to catch up with the runners, and it took

765
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:29.880
me down this weird, weird back road and so my

766
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.760
girlfriend just starts flipping out, like like just it was

767
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.239
really weird. She got really agitated all of a sudden,

768
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:38.400
and I was just driving trying to get us to

769
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:43.440
the reservoir. And I didn't tell her at the time

770
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:47.480
how I felt, but I had this really weird, like

771
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:51.360
sudden sense of like major dread, like we were in danger,

772
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:54.079
like something bad was gonna happen. And I'm in the

773
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:55.800
woods a lot, I'm on back roads a lot. It

774
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:58.360
doesn't like. It was like a really weird feeling. So

775
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.199
the next morning we make it the reservoir eventually, but

776
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:06.960
she tells me she was panicking because she looked out

777
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:11.920
the window and she saw like a light and it

778
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:13.840
was weird too. I was like, was it a reflector?

779
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:15.960
Was it like you know, like I was trying to

780
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.079
figure out what it was, but she said it was

781
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:20.679
like about the size of a softball, and it was

782
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:22.840
just like a glowing ball, and then it moved up

783
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:24.920
and into the trees, and she's like, I don't know

784
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:26.920
how you didn't see it, and I was like, I

785
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.079
didn't see it. And then I asked her where it happened,

786
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:31.599
and the place that she said it happened was the

787
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:34.239
same spot that I said that was exactly where I

788
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.280
felt like we were in danger or something. So it

789
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:38.920
was just a weird I don't know what it was

790
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:42.159
and I didn't see it. But she's not one to

791
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.000
uh make something up like that.

792
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:47.440
Dude.

793
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.079
You you have been in some great areas and also

794
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:54.840
had some weird stuff happen. That's awesome. Wow, thank you

795
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:55.440
for sharing that.

796
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:55.679
Man.

797
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:01.039
If you ever have anything else what's happened, you know,

798
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:03.920
feel free to reach out. I'd love to hear from you.

799
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.559
Do you mind if I use this conversation we had

800
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:08.920
in my podcast I have.

801
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:10.800
Yeah, that's totally fine. Yeah.

802
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:11.960
And if you're ever out, I know you go to

803
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.599
the Oak Ridge thing. I'm living in Eugene now, so

804
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.760
if you're ever out this way, you know, if you

805
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:20.519
want to go out time and just explore Beck.

806
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:23.119
Yeah, yeah, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks man, I'll.

807
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.079
Give you a follow cool, have a good one.

808
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:32.719
Yep, good stuff. Hey, Papa Josh, how are you good man?

809
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:33.320
How you doing?

810
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:34.360
Hey?

811
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:34.760
Hey?

812
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:36.800
Doing doing well? What brings you up?

813
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:42.679
Sir? I wanted to share a story with you that

814
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:45.800
me and my wife experience here where we live at

815
00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:55.400
about a week or two ago, where we we got

816
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:58.400
kids here in the house. We live in a smaller

817
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:02.679
recurdive park where it's really nice. I hear play shuts

818
00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:07.239
down like eight o'clock. But uh, me and my wife

819
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:10.360
were smokers. We go outside and smoke. I built some

820
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:12.480
benches out there for us to sit down and relax.

821
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:17.760
And Uh, one night, if she's talking to me, I

822
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:25.440
hear something going on behind the house and here you

823
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:31.079
hear small branches breaking, and uh, the next thing I know,

824
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:35.159
without my wife, you know, quiet down to hear something

825
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:40.719
and it's not nothing new down here, and nobody really

826
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:42.599
talks about it here at the park that it was

827
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:48.480
close to where the woods are, and uh, all of

828
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:51.480
a sudden you hear, Uh it was a dog. I'm

829
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:54.800
thinking it was a coyote that was back there also.

830
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.559
But then all of a sudden you hear a snapping

831
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:03.679
the limb, big lamp breaking, and it's just moving through

832
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:08.920
through the back area really quick. And next thing we know,

833
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:18.360
we hear this kayo or dog whimper. And it was

834
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:24.519
It was really kind of sad, but I think it

835
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:29.719
became dinner because you hear just you hear fleshed ripping open,

836
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:34.360
you hear enters hit in the ground. Yeah, it was crazy,

837
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:41.960
and uh, the weirdest part about it was it started

838
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:47.239
making this noise. It kind of reminded me of those

839
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:51.280
old I don't know if you remember, these old plastic

840
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:53.440
tubes that used to swirl around in the circle and

841
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:58.599
to make that noise, right yep, And uh, it was

842
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:05.519
kind of a more of a leveled sound. And it's

843
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:07.960
just something we couldn't get over. It's something we never forgot.

844
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:13.239
But we heard that in just the last few weeks.

845
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.639
We're just discussing, you know, what was that. I don't

846
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:20.119
you know, we knew it was something breaking limbs high

847
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.639
and it, like I said, it rushed through the real

848
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:29.559
quick and I couldn't believe how fast it was. And

849
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:32.800
like I said, it ended it, you know, making this

850
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:38.000
weird noise. But not very long ago, a couple of

851
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:40.079
days ago, we got a dog part across the creek

852
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:45.119
where we're at, and the creek's probably about fifteen foot deep,

853
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:49.960
spots twenty foot deep, and that's you know, ground level

854
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.840
going down to where the creek is. It floods out

855
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:56.840
every time it rains hard down here. But we're out

856
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:02.760
one night and I see this so big walking towards

857
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:05.920
just a dog park over there, and there was the

858
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:10.960
big maple tree out there and it's got a it's

859
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:14.639
got a fork on one of the big branches out there,

860
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:19.119
and uh, I see it, walk up to it. It

861
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:23.119
just completely rip one of the fourths down to the ground.

862
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:27.000
And my wife like, you hear that, I'm looking at

863
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:30.400
it right now, and I couldn't believe it. So I

864
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:32.639
was like, I said, I'm gonna get out there in

865
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:36.280
the morning and see how really biggest branches it went

866
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:41.519
out there in America, it was about fourteen inches around,

867
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:49.039
but it tore from a it was the biggest branch

868
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:53.800
up there, and it tore about four foot all the

869
00:57:53.880 --> 00:58:00.440
way down. And uh, that happened on Saturday night, about

870
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:03.840
eleven eleven thirty. But there's a lot of strain stuff

871
00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:06.800
going on around here. You know, it gets quiet out here, really.

872
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:09.360
We hear the crickets and all these animals that night

873
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:13.719
and then it just goes straight quiet. So it was, yeah,

874
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:21.079
it was kind of unreal, you know. And when when

875
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:24.119
we when we had our kid, our youngest kid is

876
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:27.119
what it was is he was in the yuqu hospital

877
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:30.400
and I was working late, so I was getting home late.

878
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:32.320
So my wife would go up here to the muqu

879
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:37.079
hospital see the baby. She come home having experienced driving back.

880
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:40.760
She was traveling down Sooner Road and she come to

881
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:43.119
the stop sign and it was dark. This is before

882
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:49.519
we started putting buildings up over there, and uh, she said,

883
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:51.719
all she saw she was with my younger daughter or

884
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:56.960
my oldest daughter now, but uh she was. She came

885
00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:59.840
to the stop sign and she said all she s

886
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.280
all was just something step in the road. And she said,

887
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.199
oh she saw was legs and the legs were like

888
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.760
really hairy, but they were like a reddish color but

889
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:15.119
not real thick because it was during summertime. And uh,

890
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:20.400
she was afraid. And she's calling me, asking me where

891
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:22.440
do I go because she didn't know the area that well.

892
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:26.840
I remember what's going on. She goes, I just saw

893
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:29.639
sitping the road, and I'm so scared. She's crying. She's

894
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:35.519
almost hysterical, and uh and I told her how to

895
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:37.440
get back home and jump back on the highway to

896
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:42.719
get straight home. And I was her experience with it,

897
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.039
and the person one I tell you about me and

898
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:49.480
her was together. But I'm I'm a truck driver and

899
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:54.760
I always saw signs for boggy Creek going out to Obert, Oklahoma,

900
00:59:56.519 --> 00:59:58.960
and I decided to I was working nights, so I've

901
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:01.079
decided to pull over take a picture of the science.

902
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:05.400
I remember Balky Creek, you know, I mean I got

903
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:09.440
there to take a picture. It's it's like at one

904
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:13.280
o'clock in the morning, just pitch black out there. So

905
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.960
I go out there and it's a there's a you know,

906
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:20.000
buggy creek, there's a bridge. So I go taking a

907
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.719
picture and I go to snap another picture and I

908
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:27.360
hear a baby crying in the distance, you know, like

909
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:33.079
wait a minute, and uh I heard that, and I

910
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:35.840
instantly got tells. The hair on the back of my

911
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:37.760
head was standing of us. Said I think it's time

912
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:44.039
to go, and uh it got quiet, and I ran

913
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:46.639
back to my truck. Doesn't semi took off. I just

914
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:50.159
I couldn't do it, you know. It was it was

915
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:52.239
kind of weird, you know, it was kind of scary.

916
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:56.400
But that was just wanting to share my experience with you,

917
01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:59.960
that's all. It was really crazy, especially here.

918
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:04.320
Thank you for sharing what you guys are going through.

919
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:07.119
I can hear it in your voice that it's really

920
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:14.559
affected you. Would you be able to share the general

921
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:16.760
area you're in. I might be able to get someone

922
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:17.880
that that could help you.

923
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:24.840
Guys, that was out here in a we're by a

924
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:31.599
military base. It's Oklahoma City, but it's eastern Oklahoma. We're

925
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:33.880
by a base called Tinker Air Force Base.

926
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.800
Oh, dear here, dude.

927
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.880
Yeah, I know, dude, you wouldn't believed.

928
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.519
Yeah, you know about the weird stuff that goes on

929
01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:49.800
at Tinker. I know you've heard, like there's weird stuff

930
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:51.679
that goes on around Tinker Air Force Base.

931
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:56.480
Oh my goodness, I gotta I gotta retired shift from

932
01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:59.639
all that that worked there. I used to try to

933
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:02.199
with her. She wouldn't say nothing, but now she retires.

934
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:05.239
But well, you know what goes on over them after

935
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:08.760
you got and what goes on that place is crazy.

936
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:13.079
It's wild from okay, so active.

937
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:18.960
All that stuff, you know, it's crazy. It doesn't bother

938
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:22.079
me right now. I'm I'm injured off the job, so

939
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:26.239
I'm not doing nothing right now. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, there's

940
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:30.800
a I've been out to where it hangs around. I

941
01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:33.800
didn't go back deep into where it's at. There's a

942
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:36.920
fence that's got to open, and you can go back

943
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.599
and you can see a wide trail. I mean, you

944
01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:43.039
know when people walk down the trail and there's usually

945
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:46.480
a skinny trail. This is a wide trail, like two

946
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:50.480
three foot wide, where there's definitely a trail back there.

947
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:56.239
Gotcha, gotcha? Well I will I'll reach out. I'm following

948
01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:59.559
you now, so I'll reach out. Is this a conversation

949
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:02.119
I could use for my podcast as well?

950
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:04.760
Yeah? Go right ahead?

951
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:08.199
Man, all right, cool, Well, I appreciate you coming up,

952
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:09.519
and I'll see what I can do.

953
01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:12.679
Okay, all right, brother, thank you?

954
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:14.159
All right, you have a good one.

955
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:19.519
You're to you boy, It's.

956
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:24.039
Damien. How's it going.

957
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:26.079
Pretty good?

958
01:03:26.119 --> 01:03:28.360
How about you? Hey? Doing great?

959
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:30.199
Uh? What brings you up today?

960
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:33.360
Yeah? Sorry, we got cut off earlier.

961
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:36.079
Oh yeah, every very right, great.

962
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:43.079
Yeah, but anyway, I got a couple of stories, but

963
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:46.920
I know this is like all we got to make

964
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:47.360
it quick.

965
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:52.000
I guess no, don't don't feel rushed, go right ahead.

966
01:03:54.199 --> 01:04:00.400
Yeah all right, Well of course I'm down here in Georgia.

967
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:05.199
You know, so from the time I was a little kid,

968
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:10.079
my grandma always talked about something. She always talked about

969
01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:14.760
something called red eyes, and it used to scariest kids

970
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:17.920
to death. You know, she had one of those big

971
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:20.480
yard lights. We're out way out in the middle of

972
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:24.639
the country, gravel roads and stuff like that. The thing

973
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:27.920
was always, you know, all boys, better get back in

974
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:30.719
the house where red Eyes get you. When when that

975
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:33.760
light comes on in the yard, you best get your

976
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.239
butt back in the house. O red Eyes was going

977
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:44.280
to get you. Granny was really adamant about that. So

978
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:48.760
here's going on, Like we always wondered what red Eyes was.

979
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:51.920
I was told a story by my cousins when I

980
01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:57.679
was a kid about getting pulled in a wagon, like

981
01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:01.360
one of those little, you know, pull on little red wagons.

982
01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:04.719
They pulled me down to the creek, down to the

983
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:07.559
end of the road, and apparently they seen red Eyes

984
01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:10.079
in the creek and run off and left me there.

985
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:14.800
I have a little bit of a memory about that,

986
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:18.800
like them leaving me. I've never seen red Eyes, but

987
01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:23.320
I seen them run, so of course I'll run off

988
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:26.599
after him. That's just a little backstory. Should either should

989
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:29.559
either say red eyes or or a booger is gonna

990
01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:35.960
get you. It's either red eyes are a booger. Never

991
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:45.800
thought anything of it until I got older. But the

992
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:49.559
whole bigfoot I got into the little bigfoot thing, you know,

993
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:52.679
watching the shows and everything like that. It was interesting.

994
01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:55.719
Never paid too much attention to it. We grew up

995
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:58.840
hunting our whole lives. You know, every every kid in

996
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:02.800
Georgia does. I mean, if you were raised right, you know,

997
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:07.599
you go out hunting squirrels, you hunt deer and everything

998
01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:10.559
like that. Was all raised in the woods. Nothing ever

999
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:17.599
bothered me. Everything was fine. Well, one day I'm maybe

1000
01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:22.360
eighteen nineteen years old, and I'm driving in the middle

1001
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:29.199
of nowhere. I mean, if anybody here listen, if they

1002
01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:35.119
know Oglethorpe County, Oglethorpe County, you can get like way

1003
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:39.960
out there. It's like nothing, but there's a small little

1004
01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:44.039
town like Crawford and stuff like that. But it's out

1005
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:45.920
in the middle of nowhere. You can get out there.

1006
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:51.559
You can ride dirt rays forever. So I was driving

1007
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:55.719
one day on the other side of Oglethorpe County, on

1008
01:06:55.760 --> 01:07:00.840
the other side of Crawford and not thinking anything of it.

1009
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:06.000
Driving there's nothing but dirt roads. To my left. I'm

1010
01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:11.320
on one paved road that goes to what's that town.

1011
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:16.199
It's not even a town, it's a little place in

1012
01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:18.880
the middle of nowhere. Anyway, driving down there, and I

1013
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:24.360
glance over and I see, my brain tells me, is

1014
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:30.679
a black man, I guess, in a hoodie, barefoot, walking

1015
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:34.360
down a dirt road away from me. Mind you, is

1016
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:37.639
the middle of summer, and at this time it's almost

1017
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:43.840
one hundred degrees in Georgia. And after I thought about

1018
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:45.400
it for a little while, I was like, that doesn't

1019
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:49.639
seem right. A black man in all black and a

1020
01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:52.920
hoodie on, and I can see the bottom of his

1021
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:56.400
feet on a dirt road in the middle of nowhere.

1022
01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:04.079
So that's just as midget of little story that I got.

1023
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:07.119
I'm trying to rush through this because you know, I'm

1024
01:08:07.159 --> 01:08:12.400
not trying to waste time or anything. Okay, fast forward,

1025
01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:17.199
I'll say, I think it might have been two thousand

1026
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:25.159
and let's see two thousand and twenty two or twenty three.

1027
01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:30.079
Me and my buddy playing a hunting trip. Not a

1028
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:32.119
hunting trip, I take that act. We're just wanting to

1029
01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:34.720
get out and take the kids out in our and

1030
01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:40.880
our girls John like, it still makes me nervous.

1031
01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:41.720
Sorry, But.

1032
01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:47.039
So it's me and my buddy, his girlfriend and my

1033
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:54.960
girlfriend or his wife to say, my girlfriend, and.

1034
01:08:57.079 --> 01:08:57.640
We go.

1035
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:01.720
To just try to pitch a tint and take the

1036
01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:04.479
kids out, you know, take them out in nature, have

1037
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:08.079
some fune for a night or whatever. Go to pitch

1038
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:11.640
a tent. And this is in a place not far

1039
01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:20.720
from Oglethorpe County is in the wm A Wildlife Management Area. Okay,

1040
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:26.359
it's around Maxi, Georgia. I mean you can look it

1041
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:31.600
up surrounding that area. So we're out there, we're having

1042
01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:35.720
a good time. We make a fire, we're starting to

1043
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:40.920
set up the tent. But we realized the tent that

1044
01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:44.520
we bought that they just sold us a box pretty

1045
01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:47.680
much with some stuff in it. It's not the full tent.

1046
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:51.279
So we send the girls back. Of course, they go

1047
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:57.479
to Walmart or wherever it was. But we have I

1048
01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:03.640
have my son, which was maybe seven eight. I can

1049
01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:06.800
have him come on and tell you the situation too.

1050
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:10.720
He still remembers it like it is yesterday. But have

1051
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:14.359
my son and my daughter, and my girlfriend at the

1052
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:19.319
time has her daughter, and then my buddy has his

1053
01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:24.640
wife and his two sons. So just us and the kids.

1054
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:28.000
Kids are playing and everything. So they get back with

1055
01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:30.119
a tent. We're setting a tent up. About that time,

1056
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:36.239
it's getting really dark, but we have the fire going,

1057
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:39.439
the kids are having fun and everything, and then like

1058
01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:46.479
some I'll give you the backstory on my buddy and me.

1059
01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:52.079
We've been friends since we were maybe eleven twelve years old,

1060
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:56.399
and we grew up hunting. We've hunted everything. We've been

1061
01:10:56.439 --> 01:11:01.159
to bear hunting together. You're hunting. We know everything in

1062
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:04.680
the woods. Grew up in the woods. Everybody wrote it.

1063
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:08.560
We like, there's nothing to do around here. You can't

1064
01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:11.279
go to the mall. We don't have a mall. Our

1065
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:15.359
closest mall is in Athens and there's nothing there. Like

1066
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:17.560
it's almost completely shut down.

1067
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:19.239
I know, all right.

1068
01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:23.359
So we're sitting there in the middle of woods. Yeah,

1069
01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:27.039
it's a little place called Turkey Neck and there's nothing

1070
01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:30.960
around and it's not hunting season. I think turkey season

1071
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:36.319
has had just begun. But we're not turkey hunting or anything.

1072
01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:40.119
I did have a pump shotgun in the car. This

1073
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:44.760
will come into play a little bit later, but anyway,

1074
01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:45.479
we're setting up.

1075
01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:46.199
We're having fun.

1076
01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:50.079
My buddy, he's a big guy, he's way bigger than me.

1077
01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:53.239
He's a huge, big bearded dude. Been in the woods

1078
01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:56.319
all his life. We're sitting there doing our thing, having fun.

1079
01:11:56.439 --> 01:12:00.720
And we hear some cracking in the woods, not thinking

1080
01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:04.159
nothing of it. We know what possums sound like. We

1081
01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:08.760
know what armadilla sound like. Armadillas sound really loud coming

1082
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:13.720
through the woods. They can make some noise. Deer, we

1083
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:16.920
know it. Bears sound like. There's not many bear. There

1084
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:20.920
are bear, but there's not many of them. But you

1085
01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:23.840
know bear. You can tell they like pop their jaws.

1086
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:25.079
They do that whole thing.

1087
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:25.680
Bores.

1088
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:28.960
We know what they sound like. Wild pigs all that

1089
01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:33.079
I got them around the house like right now, like

1090
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:36.439
we know, everything sounds like we've been in the woods

1091
01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:41.880
our whole life. I cannot stress that enough. But something

1092
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:48.600
started breaking twigs and rustling. Sounds like somebody's walking through

1093
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:52.359
the woods. And by this time it's pitch black. We

1094
01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:57.479
got a fire going, it's dark. We chalk it off

1095
01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:03.159
as being just animal, whatever whatever it may be. But

1096
01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:10.960
it keeps getting closer, and it keeps getting louder and

1097
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:17.640
about louder. I mean like it's breaking limbs and it's snapping,

1098
01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:25.920
and it's beating and it's I don't know, it sounds

1099
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:29.760
like it's getting really aggressive. We know it's not a bear.

1100
01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:37.600
We thought it was. I guess we thought it was

1101
01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:42.479
somebody messing with us, like because it's coming, like it

1102
01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:45.279
keeps coming closer and closer, and it's banging stuff and

1103
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:51.640
this breaking limbs, like snapping off limbs. Bear I mean, yeah,

1104
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:54.920
they can break some limbs other animals. Yeah, they sound

1105
01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:57.840
loud in the woods if you're scared. But we know

1106
01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:03.119
everything out there. But this thing was breaking limbs, and

1107
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:06.520
it's getting closer and closer, and it is dark at

1108
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:09.920
this time, and we're on this embank at the edge

1109
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:14.880
of this embankment. It's like a cliff next to us.

1110
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:19.159
So like it gets really intense, like it's coming towards

1111
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:24.079
like crack, crack bang bang like crack, tear rip, Like

1112
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:31.159
it's intense. And in between the time, I like, the

1113
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:35.039
girls have gotten all the kids in the car, and

1114
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:37.399
but we had two vehicles. There are two trucks, so

1115
01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:40.720
they got the vehicle, they got the kids in the vehicles.

1116
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:43.560
All the kids are crying, the girls are crying. It's

1117
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:48.960
this intense and somewhere in between, I pull out a

1118
01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:53.760
you know, a pump, you know what I mean. I

1119
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:59.399
pull that out just it's hard to explain. I pulled

1120
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:05.199
that out and we're standing there expecting at any time

1121
01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:07.720
something to bust to those tree lines. But at the

1122
01:15:07.720 --> 01:15:09.960
same time, in the back of our head, we think

1123
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:14.640
that it's somebody's messing with us, like they're trying to

1124
01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:20.279
run us out of here. I mean, like, but it

1125
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:23.920
gets so intent. So let me put it this way.

1126
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:28.199
It's me and him, and he's a big guy, and

1127
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:30.880
I've never seen him so scared, and he's probably never

1128
01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:33.159
seen me so scared. And all the kids are in

1129
01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:36.399
the car crying. My son, I can have him tell

1130
01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:39.279
you about it. He was the only one to be

1131
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:42.239
out of the vehicle at that time because he's just

1132
01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:46.640
curious and he's not scared of anything. But this thing

1133
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:49.119
is coming through the tree line. So I raise up

1134
01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:52.680
that pump right and just to make that sound that

1135
01:15:52.760 --> 01:15:58.359
it makes. It's universal. It goes chum, you know. And

1136
01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:02.800
the whole time my buddy says stop, stop, stop, please stop,

1137
01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:05.520
and I'm gonna stop stop stop, we will, you know,

1138
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:11.119
let one off. It sounds like something was in my mind,

1139
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:14.800
something was about to come off that embankment and land

1140
01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:20.600
in our temporary homemade camp site. Something was going to

1141
01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:22.319
land in the middle of it. I was waiting for

1142
01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:25.239
something to bust through that tree line. So I make

1143
01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:30.159
that universal sound, that chop chop, and it didn't stop coming.

1144
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:33.920
And I'm ignorant, so you know, I'm just trying to

1145
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:36.439
make the sound. I don't realize there's one already in there.

1146
01:16:36.479 --> 01:16:39.680
So the jects one on the ground that was dumb.

1147
01:16:40.199 --> 01:16:43.840
So my buddy looks at me. He is pale, white,

1148
01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:46.359
scared to death. We've heard every animal in the woods.

1149
01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:49.079
We've been bear hunting together, you know. In the middle

1150
01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:53.840
of nowhere, he snatches it from me and put and

1151
01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:56.720
shoulders it and he's still yelling stop, stop stop. It

1152
01:16:56.800 --> 01:17:01.960
never stops, and I'm about to pass out, thinking that

1153
01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:05.640
this thing is coming off this embankment, about to land

1154
01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:14.520
in our campsite. It's really intense. But right when it

1155
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:19.680
reaches the edge of the edge of the campsite, the

1156
01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:22.159
edge of this little cliff that's in front of us,

1157
01:17:22.439 --> 01:17:27.079
it just stops and there's no more sound. And we're

1158
01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:30.479
standing there like waiting, like what's going to happen? Now,

1159
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:36.960
We're sitting there waiting waiting. Nothing happens. It goes dead silent.

1160
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:42.199
Everywhere everything around us is dead silent. And he packs

1161
01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:48.079
up his stuff and the girl that I was with

1162
01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:50.840
at she packs up all of our stuff. They're like,

1163
01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:53.159
we're out of here. I wanted to wait for a few,

1164
01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:57.439
but they're like, nah, I mean we did wait for

1165
01:17:57.439 --> 01:18:00.239
a few. They're all sitting in the car, and this

1166
01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:05.319
last part it was just me out there. Everybody else

1167
01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:08.720
is in the car, the cars are running, they're ready

1168
01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:11.319
to go. I'm sitting here listening because I want to

1169
01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:13.920
know what this is because we've heard every animal in

1170
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:17.199
the woods. I've never heard anything like this, anything break

1171
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:20.479
limbs like that. Anything that breaks limbs like that has

1172
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:23.039
to have hands or it has to be a person,

1173
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:26.560
but it's got to be a big person. Yep, there's

1174
01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:29.039
somebody determined to get us out of there, which is

1175
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:32.359
not hunting season. It was the very beginning of turkey season.

1176
01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:35.399
There's no turkey hunters that's going to be in there.

1177
01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:40.399
This was like at this time, eleven thirty, twelve o'clock

1178
01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:46.279
at night. So anyway, they're in the car and I'm

1179
01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:51.439
sitting there listening. Everything's super quiet, but it sounds like

1180
01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:53.600
at the edge of the woods. I start hearing something again,

1181
01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:58.000
but it sounds like something's quietly, just quietly, but like

1182
01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:02.079
trying to be quiet, but not really like just moving away,

1183
01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:06.520
like it stopped there observed for a while, and then

1184
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:11.000
was like all right, you know, and like you could

1185
01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:15.600
hear the something getting stepped on, like it's slowly backing

1186
01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:21.119
up and moving away and walking off. All right. So

1187
01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:26.199
that was the experience. But months later, my buddy that

1188
01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:30.640
was with me, he sends me an article that was

1189
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:35.239
in a magazine you can look at. I wanted to

1190
01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:38.119
find this to send it to you before I told

1191
01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:40.880
you the story, but I mean, I have a lot

1192
01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:43.479
going on here in the day, so right now it's

1193
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:47.159
the time I wanted to send it to you. There's

1194
01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:49.399
an article in this magazine. I don't know if it's

1195
01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:55.800
the GEO N Georgia Outdoors News. I don't know if

1196
01:19:55.800 --> 01:20:00.560
it's that. It might not be, but there's an article

1197
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:05.159
he sent to me a little while later, and it

1198
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:09.520
was a hunter. They were sitting in his stand and

1199
01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:15.640
witnessed two bigfoot stas watched whatever you want to call

1200
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:18.479
come down a trail in front of him. He was

1201
01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:23.640
bow hunting, come down a trail, not notice he was

1202
01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:25.720
there for a minute, and then finally look up at

1203
01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:28.239
the tree and noticed that he was in the tree

1204
01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:31.560
and they noticed him and they turned around and walked

1205
01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:35.960
the opposite direction the way they come in. And he

1206
01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:40.319
was like, dude, look at the the look at where

1207
01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:43.000
he was at, the area he was in, and it

1208
01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:46.000
was the exact same area that we were camping in

1209
01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:52.319
that night. So yeah, it was that's pretty It was

1210
01:20:52.359 --> 01:20:55.960
pretty cool. I don't know take it how you take it,

1211
01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:59.920
but I thought it was pretty cool. Like he was like,

1212
01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:01.279
you would never believe this.

1213
01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:06.079
Like that's wild man, And that was you said, I

1214
01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:10.000
see there's an it says Experimental Forest by Maxi's Is

1215
01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:11.039
that what you're talking about?

1216
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:18.079
Yes, that's where we're at, the experience Experimental Forest. There's

1217
01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:22.880
a w m A yeah, okay, mm hmm, that's where

1218
01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:27.239
we're at. So there's a skull shoals right there. Yep,

1219
01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:32.560
you'll see skull shoals and there's yeah, there's a little

1220
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:35.960
spot that everybody calls Turkey Neck. We've been hunting since

1221
01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:37.520
we were kids around there.

1222
01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:44.560
But yeah, that's awesome. Oh my goodness, that is that

1223
01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:47.800
is an extremely intense account. Thank you for sharing that.

1224
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:51.239
Is that something I can share on my podcast as well?

1225
01:21:52.439 --> 01:21:55.720
Oh yeah, definitely, I'd like to find that report too

1226
01:21:56.119 --> 01:21:59.560
and send it to you because that like adds into it.

1227
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:06.640
Like his report in that magazine or paper or whatever

1228
01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:10.079
was literally like a quarter mile from where we were at.

1229
01:22:11.119 --> 01:22:14.079
That's incredible. I'm makingness.

1230
01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:15.039
Wow.

1231
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:17.399
Thank you, thank you for coming up and thank you

1232
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:18.640
for sharing that. I appreciate it.

1233
01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:19.039
Damien.

1234
01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:23.000
Yeah, there's a lot of parts I left out. I

1235
01:22:23.039 --> 01:22:25.479
was just trying to make it quick. But we could

1236
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:28.279
talk later. I mean, I've got some other things too.

1237
01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:34.760
My current fiance right now, her uncle is an ex

1238
01:22:35.279 --> 01:22:40.439
he's ex military and he's a he's a current paramedic,

1239
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:44.760
so he's got the credentials and everything. But he's actually

1240
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:49.079
he's actually got pictures and everything with him and Matt Moneymaker.

1241
01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:53.960
He went on trips with the b F R O

1242
01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:58.199
and he's got some pretty cool stories too, And he's

1243
01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:00.720
told me a bunch that were pretty cool. And he

1244
01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:04.439
swears up and down that here in the same area

1245
01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:12.680
that he's witnessed one crossing the fence line and collected hair,

1246
01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:17.920
had the hairs off. He actually for Christmas, when you're

1247
01:23:18.039 --> 01:23:21.000
gifted me some of the hair that he collected.

1248
01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:24.039
That's pretty cool, man.

1249
01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:27.079
I mean I take that with a grain of salt. Though,

1250
01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:29.159
because he knows that I'm into the whole thing after

1251
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:35.680
that experience. But but yeah, I mean that's just the

1252
01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:39.600
little bit smidge of my story. We can get into

1253
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:43.039
other things later. Maybe I was just trying to spit

1254
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:44.319
it off real fast, you know.

1255
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:47.720
No, I appreciate you sharing the summary of it. You

1256
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:50.560
can send me an email at a big for Society

1257
01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:54.840
at gmail dot com and we can continue chatting there

1258
01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:55.319
as well.

1259
01:23:57.079 --> 01:23:58.439
Yes, sir, I'll follow.

1260
01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:01.079
You awesome good stuff, so I'll give you a fall

1261
01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:02.239
as well. Thank you, Damian.

1262
01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:06.960
Yeah, I appreciate it, and I'll keep listening.

1263
01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:09.840
Good stuff.

1264
01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:10.079
Guys.

1265
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:14.239
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