Oct. 29, 2025

Howling Terror at Mount St. Helens: A Soldier’s Encounter

Howling Terror at Mount St. Helens: A Soldier’s Encounter
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Season 1

What happens when campers, soldiers, and scouts all report the same chilling screams echoing through America's darkest forests — and they match the sound of Sasquatch?



In this jaw-dropping episode of Bigfoot Society, we bring you a multi-witness collection of encounters from across the country — from the terrifying howls near Mount St. Helens that drove a veteran out of the woods, to a bridge-pounding monster in West Virginia, to glowing red eyes staring from the Oregon treeline.



You’ll hear firsthand accounts from Red Bank, Prospect, and Creepy Mountain — stories that include thrown boulders, fleeing deer herds, strange vocalizations, and creatures too massive and quiet to be human.



If you’ve ever doubted the reality of Sasquatch, this episode just might change your mind.

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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To stay with us. Hi there, how are you, eprit Ka? Yeah? Yeah,

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you were saying you have a bigfoot story from the

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Mount Saint Helen's area.

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Yeah, so I just was.

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I was just going flipping through lives and I run

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across your live and I'm I'm like a guy that

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I'm wide open as far as bleeding that something can

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be possible.

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And so I've always I've always enjoyed the outdoors.

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I've always take and I'm not the most avid outdoorsman,

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but I have did the long ranger stuff where you

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go out and just trek. I've lived in Washington State

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for since nineteen eighty seven. I was a soldier in

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the army here and I retired from the army and

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I moved back here as I retired because I liked

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the Northwest, and so I lived in the I lived

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closest to Mount Rainier, and I hear some horsebacking on

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Mount Saint Helens on Mount Adams. But that weekend I

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was hunting elk Mount Saint Helens. It was the early

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archery season. I was bow hunting with a friend. It

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was in early September, and I went hunting with him.

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We were going to be out for three or four

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days camping that kind of stuff. So it was during

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the school year and it was just him and I

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and his son had to go to school. He had

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to get registered, he had to get to school cause

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school was starting up. So he said, hey, I gotta

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go in. I gotta take my kid to school. So

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if you wanna go in, we'll come back. We'll just

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go pack up and go back and come back out

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after tomorrow. I said, it's a lot of work just

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getting here, so I'm just gonna spend the night. So

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he left take the kid to school. He had to

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drive all the way back to Olympia.

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I was in.

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We were in down there woodland, down there, I'll say

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he and we were in the Eighth Cave area. That's

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uh where the Eighth Caves are. We were right that.

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We were camping in those.

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In that area. It was the early archer season.

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We had a elk cow tag. Anyway, i'm'a get going,

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keep on going with it.

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So I stayed the night and I take books and

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stuff and entertained myself.

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So I put my I had my tents set.

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I went into the tent after dark, start reading, had

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my lan landing going with the light. I was reading

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a book and I just normally I would just fall

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off to sleep and nod off. So that night I

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just fell I just nodded off into the sleep. And

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I don't know how long I asleep, but I know.

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And a little bit after midnight, there it goes. I

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heard something. I woke up to it. I thought I

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was dreaming, dreaming, but then i'd listen.

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I was quiet.

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I listened, and I heard it, and it goes again,

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and then all it would stop, and then it would

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be a pause, and then.

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It would go again.

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And the first time I heard it, it was really

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close I'm talking.

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Maybe sixty feet, maybe closer than that, but it felt

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like it was sounded like it made it been close,

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like fifty sixty feet. And then after that first how

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yeah it got. I could tell it was getting, it

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was going away from me. But I had never heard

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anything scream like that in my entire life. I had

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been in the outdoors. I know what elk sounded like

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when they bugle. I've heard stories people talk about Bob,

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like mountain lions and stuff they screamed like with me,

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But this was different, and so I came home.

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It scared me. I didn't stay it another night. I

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didn't wait for my friend to come back.

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I hunted, tried to get my mind off of during

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the day round about dark, I packed up and came home.

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Then I told my wife about the story.

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She teased me and told me I was a big chicken,

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and I was like, yep, you should have been there.

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Then I probably would have stayed. But at the same time,

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I wanted to dig a little deeper. I wanted to

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know what I heard. I didn't see it. I heard it,

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and I know I was I know it was real,

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it was not fake. And so when I started googling

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sounds of sasquatch what does sasquat sound like? And I

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ran across some videos off of Google that I had

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found and I found one video off the sound of

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sasquad would it sound like?

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And it was exact same thing I heard that night

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and that was my story.

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A wow, that is that's while the count icon. Thank

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you for sharing that. Were you don't I don't know

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if you mind me asking at first? Thank you for

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your service? And were you stationed out of Fort Lewiston?

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So that was after I have retired from the army,

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but I was stationed at for Lewis.

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I was staying exactly So. I've talked to a few

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people that have been stationed there over the years and

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they've always had some really interesting stories when you were

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stationed there. Did you ever hear any stories about people

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having big foot sightings or encounters in the woods around

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that fort?

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Yeah, I sure have. I'm friends with some families with

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a family that we do. They do horseback stuff all

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the time. They're always in the woods in the mountains

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and that kind of stuff. And I just haven't been

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visiting that day and there was two guys they were

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visiting two, and they had stories and it was more

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like when they was talking we started talking about it,

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it's like we chuckle right now when the people are

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talking about sash squad and were everybody kind of have

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a story, right, and we kind of share it.

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And I'm listening to their story and these guys are like.

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They were like, yeah, this is what happened, and we

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both saw it, and so did our wives. And they

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had they were each married, had their wife there and

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their wives became witnesses at two. And I was like, wow,

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that's I've had that kind of interaction where people were

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they had witnesses and they not only witnesses themselves. There

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was three or four or three or four people. I'm

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talking about a group like two husbands and two wives

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that saw this. The witness the same thing. Their experience

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was different. It was something it was more or less

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like we saw it and this is what it did,

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those kind of things. And then the wives were like, yep,

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we were there too. And I lived close to these.

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Guys, to the farm that I had met these guys on.

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And this has been a few years ago, this has

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been several years ago that I talked to these guys

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about that we talked and had this experience. But living

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here and living here in the Pacific Northwest, you hear

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a lot of stories about it, and there's a lot

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of believers here, a lot of believers. My neighbor, he's

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working on a project, working on his house right now.

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He has talked about an experience that he had and

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he called it the same kind of Sasquatch experience and stuff.

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It's really it's really kind of wild when you can't

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lay your hands on something, you can't see it, to

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really partake and believing in it. But it's just you

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just have to if you share your experiences, people share experiences.

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I'm sure that there's a waste, there's something, there's something there.

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I spent a lot of time in the woods growing

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up here, and I like, like I said that we're

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in I met up in Saint Helen's a lot, not

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a lot. I used to hunt up there a lot,

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and I would be in the mud flow. But that's

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it was an area called the Margaret and that's the

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mud flow on the map. When you look at the map,

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they call it the mud flow. And that's where they

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eight caves are located. And then they have they have

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what they call big ear bats, bat caves and things

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like that where you can go in and look Around've

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never been in them.

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I've never been in them, but that was my story.

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I appreciate you coming up sharing it. Also, is this

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a story I would be able to use for the

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big Foot podcasts that I have? Okay, cool, awesome, Thank

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you and thank you for coming up. And I hope

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you're able to stick around for a bit. Hey, Thunder,

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how are you? Are you wanting to come up and

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share a Bigfoot story?

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You have?

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Yes?

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All right, feel free to do friends, all right.

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This happened probably about i'd say nineteen eighty one eighty two,

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when I was in the Cub Scouts and I live

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in the northern Panhandle of West Virginia around the Elmgrove area,

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and we went to Dallas Pike. It was an old

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girl Scout camp and we were gonna we interacted.

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With the Boy Scouts. They always did activities with us

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because that was our thing to move up from the

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Cub Scouts to the Boy Scouts.

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So we were going to go on hiking with the

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Boy Scouts and we were hiking up the hill and

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all of a sudden they started saying there's a bigfoot,

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and they just started running after it, and I'm like, all,

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we're like terrified. I didn't even see it, but it's

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like we all started just running with them. But later

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on that day we were going to have a football game,

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and the scout master and all the other dads that

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were there helping wouldn't let us go down to the

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field over the hill because they said they thought there

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was a big foot down there. And that was like

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my first interaction with anything. And I was a little

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kid at the time. That was my first interaction, and

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probably my second interaction would be. It was actually my wife,

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she told me. It was in two thousand and five,

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probably in let's see May. She was coming home from work.

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She worked at a local restaurant, and it was probably

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about two three in the morning. She was driving up

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our hill to our house and there's a fork in

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the road where he can go up to the left

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side comes up to our house, the right side goes

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down over to see the rocks. A big foot ran

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in front of her car and she was terrified, and

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she said it took two steps on each part of

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the road and jumped over the guardrail. And what's crazy

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about it jumping over the guardrail. It's a long way

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down to the creek, so it either jumped into a

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tree or it jumped down over the hill and just

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slid down the rest of the way the hill.

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And I know she come home. She was seven months pregnant.

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She ran in the house. She was terrified. She's like,

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You're not gonna believe what I just saw. It was crazy.

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That was the second encounter that we had. Let's see

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what was the next one. And then I had an

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encounter two summers ago.

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I went walking down our hill and I went to

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stand on our bridge that we have goes across the creek.

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And as I'm getting closer, I hear this noise. It

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sounds like a bullfrog, but it doesn't sound like It

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doesn't sound like a bullfrog.

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It sounded like something was imitating one, but it was

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really loud.

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I walked on to the middle of the bridge and

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I was freaked out, and I'm trying to figure out

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what is that noise? And then all of a sudden,

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I hear something crash into the weeds off of the

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creek bank. It sounded like I was a car come

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down to the creek and it starts running through.

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This thing was huge.

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It starts running through the weeds and it's just ripping

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trees and branches down, and it went under the bridge.

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I'm so terrified. I've never been so scared in my life.

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I felt like I was frozen, like I could not move.

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I'm standing there and I can't move, and all of

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a sudden, something's banging on the iron part under the bridge.

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so you know it's no person. Something huge is hitting

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this thing and pounding on it, and I think it's

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trying to scare me to run off. Then it's doing

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it on the other side of the bridge. So I

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don't know if there were two or one, but it

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was massive, and it just really ripped through the trees

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and I got I finally got up enough nerve to

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move because I was terrified.

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I walked off the bridge.

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I walked all the way down the road and I

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sat down at our church and I sat there for

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an hour. And this is actually how I found out

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about the Bigfoot Society. I started looking up videos on YouTube,

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and that's how I ended up getting into watching Bigfoot Society,

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and I was just terrified by that. And then this

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summer we had one of our cats went missing and

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it was getting towards dusk in the evening, and my

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son went outside to look for our cat and it

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was getting real dark, and all of a sudden, like

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twenty deer come running into our backyard and they looked terrified,

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and they just look scared, and they were like they're

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running right beside you like nothing. Normally they wouldn't even

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come near you, but they looked like they were terrified.

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And he said that he saw something in the weeds.

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He saw two red eyes and they were pretty big,

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and he heard it grunting and growling. But we ended

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up finding our cat. But that was another thing that happened,

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but it was it just that was crazy. And then

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about August this summer, we were walking down our road

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and we just had this real bad smell of something dead.

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But it was like it was such a futrid smell.

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what that is. It's crazy And I said, this smell

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is so bad. And what was even more nuts is

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when we came home from the store, we were walking

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back up our hill down by the bridge. We heard

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something growling in the weeds and we smelled that again.

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So as we were walking all the way up to

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our house, we get inside and the fan started bringing

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that smell and it's like it followed us home.

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It was crazy, but that that was my counters.

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Wow, thank you for sharing. Those were those also in

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the same area, the last ones that you just shared.

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The first one was in Dallas Pike, but all the

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rest were in Elm Grove.

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Okay, gotcha. So that is pretty much a current situation

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where stuff is happening pretty recent.

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Yeah, And honestly, I can say, for the most part,

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I probably wouldn't even notice a lot of this stuff

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going on had I not start watching Bigfoot Society, because

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then I noticed things.

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Absolutely absolutely.

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It's just crazy. I've been wanting to tell you for

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a long time. I just had to get up the

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nerve to do it.

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Man.

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I appreciate you you coming up and sharing what you've

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been through, and if you continue to experience and stuff,

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please reach out. My email is Bigfoot Society gmail dot

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com or you can hop up on one of these

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shows again in the future. But do you mind if

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I use this conversation on the podcast.

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You can use it.

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Sure, awesome. All right, hey man, thanks for coming up,

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and hopefully you can hang out down the audience for

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a bit. All right, thank you, brother, thank you. Wild stuff,

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wild stuff. All right, let's see here. Hi there, how

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are you?

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Hey?

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How's going?

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Hey?

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Doing good? Are you coming up to share a Bigfoot story?

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I am so I have two bigfoot stories out of Oregon.

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Okay.

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When I first came to Oregon, I am originally from California.

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I had heard about bigfoot, and I never gave it

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that much marriage I thought, maybe I don't know, I

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probably don't believe it. So I moved to Oregon about

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ten years ago. The first year I got here, I

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was doing a solo camping trip and I was on

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Blm Land at this little pond about an hour west

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of Eugene. So I'm there the only person, and at night,

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probably around midnight sometime, I hear these howls all over.

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Some are close, some are far every direction. If I estimate,

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there probably had to be twenty thirty of them.

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And I'm like, okay, what was this?

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Because I'm a pretty avid outdoors man, I know what

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a wolf sounds like. Coyotes. I know the noise is

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bear makes I'm like, what is this? It sounded huge

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and it sounded powerful. I'm like, all right, I'm not

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gonna get out to go find out because the closest

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one to me was probably, I don't know, one hundred

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feet away, and the farthest one maybe a thousand yards

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off in the woods. So I'm super tripped out. I

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know I'm the only one there. I can't figure out

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what it is. And honestly, I wasn't about to go

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out there and look because I'm like, no, I'm not

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taking that risk. So nothing happened that night.

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I end up leaving.

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A few days later, I'm telling my friend the story

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and they're like, that sounds like a bigfoot. I'm like,

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what are you talking about? They're like, yeah, the bigfoot. How.

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I'm like, bro, bigfoot don't doesn't How what are you

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talking about? And so sure enough I googled it and

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I listened to recordings that other people have posted online,

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and my heart sank because that's exactly what I heard,

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and there's no other description, like just the intensity of it,

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like it feels almost like a powerful big beast, like

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you can tell so that was my first experience that

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kind of tripped me on, Okay, there's more to the

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organ forest than you think there is. And years later,

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I had gone to eastern Oregon to pick up a

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puppy and I was like making a road trip. So

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at the time, I was living in Eugene. And on

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the way back, they started to get dark. So I

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found a local campground and it was right at Subtle Lake,

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just outside of Sisters. Yes, no, I'm at Subtle Lake,

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and like, we didn't plan on camping there, and we

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found a campsite. It was the last campsite in the

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very back and it's really nice. It was right on

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the water and then there was a small forest patch

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behind it, so we set up camp. I'm super tired

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from driving all day and I got two dogs. I

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have my Rottweiler and then the puppy I just picked up.

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And the fire was like dying out.

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It was just Col's.

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There was absolutely no noise, no nothing. All of a sudden,

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my rottweiler starts going crazy and still to this day,

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I haven't seen him that crazy, and I'm like, what

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is it? So I have a super bright tactical flashlight.

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I hit the turned on the direction he's barking, and

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I see these huge red eyes going back at me.

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And it was close. It was like sixty feet away maybe,

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and it was in the tree line, and in the

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tree line it was pretty thick, but there was almost

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like a window where there wasn't any brush, and all

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I saw were the eyes. And so my dog's freaking

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out right. I'm trying to grab my dog so he

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doesn't go charge it. And then I'm looking for something,

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hoping some sort of protection.

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Right.

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I turned my flashlight around for a quick second. I

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turn it back and it's gone. And the crazy thing

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to me, what I still can't figure out, is my

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flashlight super bright. I never saw the body or anything.

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All I saw with these big eyes. I went to

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that area in the morning and I tried looking out

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from the window in the trees, and I'm sixty three

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and I couldn't look out. So he had to be

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at least nine foot tall to look out where that

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area was. But the thing that blew me away is

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he never made any noise coming in and out, and

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it was dead quiet. If my dog wasn't there, I

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would have never known. And I'm like, how can something

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that big move so quietly, and even where I'm at now,

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there's I live in the woods in southern Oregon now

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and behind me is thousands of acres and there's bears,

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there's mountain lions, and you can hear them move. But

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I still can't figure it out. So yeah, after those

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two experiences, I was like really blown away and turned

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into a believer. But honestly, after being an Oregon this long,

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I will say Bigfoot is probably the least of my

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worries in the woods.

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Oh wow.

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Really, I've had weird experiences in the Oregon woods. And

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so when I went on this, after I had these experiences,

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I went online. I started looking at forums and reading

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people's actual comments, and I realized there's a lot more

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weird in Orgon woods than you think. And like I've

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personally seen orbs, I've seen other things. I've heard about

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crazy stories, and so I realized, like, looking back I

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think about it, I was just in a little tent

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by myself. There's tons of squatches around me. They could

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have easily done anything. They didn't try to intimidate me,

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they didn't bother me. They left me alone in my

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tent and the other time, it was just spying on us,

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like it was looking at us. It wasn't being hostile,

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it was just looking at us. And so I'm like, okay,

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he could have done anything at any time. I never

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felt threatened. I was more like, what was that right?

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Blown away? But after my other experiences with the orbs

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and stuff in the organ forest, I'm just like, Okay,

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this place is wild. And I'm not talking about like

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the campgrounds. I'm talking like the bl the forest, the

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areas around like my property box up to the same

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forest that's connected to Crater Lake. So there's all kinds

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of weird stuff that goes on out there. But it's

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just a weird place. So this bigfoot kind of opened

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my eyes to everything else.

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I got a few questions for you. That's incredible stuff.

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I actually stayed at Subtle Lake for a few days

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in July, so I know exactly what you're talking about.

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The first account that you shared that that small lake.

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Would you be able to share just the name of

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the lake if possible?

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Yeah, So, the I believe it's called Holt or Horden.

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It's a it used to be a logging area, and

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so it's not even a real Lake. It's a man

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made pond that they used to use for logging.

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Gotcha, but yeah, Holton or Harden cool. I'll do some

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research into that. And then so you say you're down

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by Crater, So does that I'm guessing that. I've heard

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a lot about the Union Creek and Prospect area. Is

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that an area you're familiar with?

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I am, Yeah. So I'll use that road that goes

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through there to go out for central Oregon pretty frequently.

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I'll go to Lost Creek, Lake and those areas, and

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Prospect is one area I personally won't stop him, especially

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at night.

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Okay, So I've heard that from another person too, that

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they won't stop. Why won't you stop there?

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It's the energy you feel when you come right into it.

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It feels dark, and parts of Oregon forest definitely feel

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like that. Other parts of Oregon forest, like the woods

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behind my property, I've never had that feeling. And I'm

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out pretty far in the woods. Other parts of Oregon,

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it's pretty eminent, and so it's I don't know what's

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going on, but I'm not gonna find out.

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Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest. I drove up to Detroit.

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I felt this that very similar thing when I was

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driving down into Detroit. It was a very weird feeling

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driving into that area. But have you heard of any

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any bigfoot sightings or anything in the Union Creek Prospect area.

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I have heard of them in the Prospect area, I

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have not personally. Prospect Cave Junction is like another area.

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You'll notice there's like hotspots pretty much all the forest

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on the west side of Highway five, right along the coast.

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Those areas are all thick, and then you have most

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of the areas around Crater Lake and then that forest

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that kind of goes from like Sisters down into like

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Bend area. Yeah, there's a lot in there. Around Mount

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Hood there's a lot.

470
00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:03.599
It's that Cascade range, is what I've found from talking

471
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.839
to people. There's so many sightings up and down the Cascades.

472
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:10.039
I haven't gotten a lot from Southwest Oregon yet, and

473
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:13.519
I'm not sure why, Like the Rogue River area.

474
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:19.480
Yeah, so that's where I'm at actually, But the forest

475
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:23.240
behind my property it's all blm and it connects to

476
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:25.640
You could walk to Crater Lake if you knew the

477
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:30.079
direction from where I'm at. I feel like the people

478
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:38.359
from Grant's Pass into cave junction. They're they're probably not

479
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:42.000
likely to go out and talk about openly or especially

480
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:45.480
like on social media. They're more like those kind of folk.

481
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:47.400
That's been my experience.

482
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:53.200
That makes total sense. Man, this has been a great conversation.

483
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.400
I appreciate you coming up and sharing what you've experienced

484
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.480
in your time in Oregon so far. I have a

485
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:02.559
big FU podcast. Is this a conversation I could I

486
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:04.079
could put on that platform.

487
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.920
Yeah, I feel free to put it on, and yeah,

488
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:09.440
thank you thanks for having me on.

489
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:11.880
Absolutely. Hey Michael, how are you.

490
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:13.599
Good?

491
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:16.920
Are you I'm doing great? Are you coming up to

492
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:18.759
share a big Foot story you have today?

493
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:19.920
Yes?

494
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:23.200
Yeah, feel free to go ahead.

495
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:29.440
Okay. It was a personal sighting about five or six

496
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:36.759
years ago in the Appalachian Mountains of Tennessee, an area

497
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:42.799
called Cookeville, Crossville, A lot of people know Crossville more.

498
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:46.960
It's a tourist town. And I was heading back to

499
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:52.559
Ohio and going by the Cumberland River, and I was

500
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:57.599
almost a Dale Hollow Lake, a very well known beautiful lake.

501
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:02.680
There a lot of woods, big areas, large areas of

502
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:08.680
woods on the state park right there, and I could

503
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:15.119
see up ahead, no traffic and no traffic behind me.

504
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:18.400
It was on a Sunday morning, and I could see

505
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:24.680
approximately three football fields actually more a quarter a mile

506
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:29.920
ahead of me. There were the river was on the

507
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:34.960
left back, left side, and it was a very narrow

508
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:40.079
strip of back that came right up to the road,

509
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.319
and on the right side was a cut out mountain.

510
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.440
And I looked and saw what I thought was a

511
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.920
big bear, and I got really excited. I wanted to

512
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:57.519
try to get a picture of it. So as I

513
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:04.720
got upwards toward the bear, or toward the area, I

514
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:08.640
drove probably a third really flooring it because I wanted

515
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.720
to try to get a picture. It was down on

516
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:16.799
all fours and I realized that it was very large,

517
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:20.680
and I'm thinking, what's it doing on the side of

518
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:24.640
the cliff, along the side of the cutout? Why is

519
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:27.440
it on the other side. And as I'm thinking that,

520
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:31.079
all of a sudden, it stands up. And when it

521
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:38.400
stood up, it was incredibly large. I guesstimated right around

522
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:43.480
eight maybe nine feet. It was very tall. But when

523
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:47.400
it stood up, I realized and took the first step.

524
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:50.400
I was still too far away to say with any

525
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:56.960
certainty that it was a big foot, but absolutely when

526
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.640
it took his first step. It wasn't like a and

527
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:05.400
I've seen bears walk on their feet and very well

528
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:12.920
versed in the bigfoot footage. It's very famous universally of

529
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:18.920
the bigfoot walking. But it was incredibly human like. It

530
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.839
did not walk like a bear, and it swung its arms,

531
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:28.759
had very long arms, and it's as if it knew

532
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:32.839
I was speeding toward it, so must have heard, had

533
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:36.640
great hearing because there was nothing coming the other way.

534
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.880
I was the only one there, and as I got

535
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:46.960
closer to the animal, it hurried. It went right over

536
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:54.400
the back quickly, and it did not have any earmarks

537
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:58.480
of a bear and its walk. Secondly, it had a

538
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.920
very slender waist, and that was the thing that stood

539
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:05.160
out to me. Well, it didn't have a belly. It

540
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:10.279
wasn't a barrel shaped like a bear. And as a

541
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:15.559
matter of fact, I knew at that point that if

542
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.799
I could just get there quick enough, I might get

543
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:21.039
footage of a big foot, because it had all the

544
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:27.599
ear marks, huge shoulders, a very large head that was

545
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.839
just right on its shoulders, there was no neck like

546
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:37.480
a bear, and most importantly, it was right on its shoulders.

547
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.319
There was no neck and with all the ear marks

548
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:43.960
of what I saw. I immediately pulled off the side

549
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:47.640
of the road, jumped out, got my phone, got my

550
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:52.640
camera ready, and threw some I didn't see it but

551
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.200
when I threw rocks, and I knew it didn't have

552
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.480
time to go far when I threw rocks, just like

553
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:03.920
the gentleman before me. But I've been listening to your

554
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:09.039
show a little bit, but I definitely know that it

555
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:17.440
literally went through the brush like it was not caring

556
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.960
whether it broke anything or not. It was definitely breaking

557
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:30.839
brush and we're talking larger brush saplings easily. And I

558
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.440
never saw it again. That was it, and I was

559
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:37.279
so excited. I just I can't say one hundred percent

560
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.880
certainty that it was a bigfoot, but I know one

561
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.640
thing I saw, and I see plenty of bears in Tennessee.

562
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.079
I see them in out of Detroit, like you talked,

563
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:51.440
and it was not a bear.

564
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.440
Wow, that's a great story. I haven't heard a lot

565
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:02.759
from Tennessee from a I was wondering down or looking

566
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.039
down the comments. You have quite the fan club down there, Michael.

567
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:06.519
You got.

568
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:10.599
To see you tell them all. Thank them so much

569
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:13.640
from the bottom of my heart. I'm taking a hiatus

570
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.680
from my show because of a relationship with my wife.

571
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.440
She doesn't want me out on the world scene without her.

572
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.720
She has an incredible she has an incredible collection of

573
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:31.200
alien evidence from skull ancient alien looking skulls with brain

574
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.680
trepornation holes in them. And she lives in Mexico, very

575
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:41.119
near the Pyramids. And yes, I'm a writer about all

576
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.680
the mysteries. And if I could, I don't want to

577
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.480
take your time. Are you familiar with the Mothman?

578
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.359
I am, Michael, but I will tell you I have.

579
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.599
As it turns out, I've got about eight people that

580
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.519
are also wanting to come up and talk about Bigfoot.

581
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.480
But can you so I don't have the time to

582
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.599
talk about mothmam, but can you share a little bit

583
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:04.960
about your books for a minute, just so people can

584
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:05.519
check it out?

585
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:06.400
Oh?

586
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:11.440
Absolutely, Mike, you think in Amazon? Me, Michael Brumfield thirty

587
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:15.480
one books. My newest is actually the thirty first. It

588
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.880
will be out next week and its titles do Halos

589
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:24.760
Solve Mysteries? The Angel Halo? Because I filmed a little

590
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.440
drone flowing Salcer. They're using it right now on age

591
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:32.960
of disclosure, And I personally think it's the best they have.

592
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:37.280
I'm biased, but no I'm not. I'm neutral. This is

593
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:41.239
a side saucer video that is the size of a

594
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:45.639
little trash can lid. What I explain is in that

595
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.920
cover is that if we are seeing them now and

596
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:54.079
they were seeing them seventeen thousand years ago, we are

597
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:59.400
still learning that life is getting smarter every day. So

598
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:03.679
could people be watching us like we watch ourselves now?

599
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:09.280
And ultimately my books deal with why wouldn't they live

600
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:13.000
with us? So the Maltman has red glowing eyes. I

601
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.440
was going to share my personal not my personal experience,

602
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:19.639
but when I wrote my first book, it was with

603
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:25.280
a gentleman who literally saw the malt man with red

604
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.199
glowing eyes. It looked just like a bigfoot. He thought

605
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:32.639
it was bigfoot, because yes, and I just wanted to

606
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:36.480
share that because it is very famous encounter where I

607
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:40.519
grew up. They made a movie about it with Richard

608
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:44.559
gear and my father crossed that bridge right before it

609
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:48.840
collapses a truck driver. I was six years old. I

610
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:54.239
remember it vividly because traumatic moments you remember. And my

611
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.760
buddy saw the bigfoot. The he thought was bigfoot. It

612
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.880
turned out to be malt ma'am the same night. And

613
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:08.639
this is only fifty sixty miles from Perkersburg, West or

614
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:13.559
Point Pleasant, West Virginia. There Marietta, and that's the yearly

615
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.559
malt Man. So I say they're all connected, and I

616
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:21.360
could be wrong, but the title of my newest book,

617
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:25.840
do Halo's Solve Mysteries? That's next week, The Little Angel Halo.

618
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:30.400
It clearly supported what happened to me when I saw

619
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.960
my little flying saucer hover above my head. And it

620
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.519
clearly supported and match it has to do with my

621
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:45.639
thesis about money and how money can derange people's focus

622
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:51.119
on solving mysteries, helping life and thinking logically.

623
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.840
Yeah, so that's it, Michael. I'd say people really need

624
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.920
to go check out your books over on Amazon. They

625
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.679
sound fascinating. I'm going to check them out. Do you

626
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:03.559
mind if I take this conversation we had and put

627
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:06.519
it on my podcast to get the word out about things.

628
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.239
Oh no, not at all, not at all very good.

629
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:15.239
But you're just end the stinking thing where I live.

630
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.280
A man I grew up with and he is absolutely

631
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:23.039
rock solid, best dad person I've ever met in my life.

632
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:28.159
When he told me his story just like those other people.

633
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.920
He said that bigfoot. He didn't see it, but he

634
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:36.719
said this creature was huge, come right up on them

635
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:42.400
deer hunting and was screaming. And he said I needed

636
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:47.079
to listen to the screams because he did google others.

637
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:49.239
And he said, this is real, Mike, And I said,

638
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:50.360
I'm open to that.

639
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:50.880
Yeah.

640
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.920
So I loved his story. But the main thing was

641
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:58.920
this bigfoot got right up on him and was trying,

642
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:03.360
he said, was trying to get them to run, but

643
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.960
they panicked and just crouched down in this great, big

644
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:13.239
pile of thicket stickers, thorns, had blackberries, and the woods.

645
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:18.719
And he said that this thing literally got within he figured,

646
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:24.800
at a maximum of twenty feet from them, and it

647
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.679
stunk so bad that he couldn't even hardly describe dead

648
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:36.719
flesh didn't smell that way. But it was an ungodly, filthy,

649
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.679
stinking odor of somebody who hadn't taken a bath in forever.

650
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:47.039
And it just with a wretched stench, And he said,

651
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:52.159
and then they just they couldn't stay there anymore. They

652
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:56.119
panicked and busted out of the thicket and run as

653
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:59.440
fast as they could down straight down the hill. And

654
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.639
it was they took a chance on risking their life

655
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.280
and it never came after them, but they heard it

656
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:08.559
scream again all the way down. They heard it scream

657
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:12.000
several times. So that was his story to get to

658
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.679
see it. But wow, the similarities, Yeah, the similarities with

659
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.599
the stench, with the brute force of crashing around.

660
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:21.679
You know what.

661
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:26.159
It was breaking, not little things like a bear, a

662
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:33.679
smaller bear. They described intentional breaking of some pretty large saplings.

663
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:39.039
One just a little snap and so then they would

664
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:41.199
beat the ground with it. It was trying to scare

665
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:45.519
the buddies, like he's wanting them to leave immediately, like.

666
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.440
In this wild story. Michael, thank you so much for

667
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:52.280
spending some time with us Sharon about things out there

668
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.320
in Tennessee and West Virginia. And I appreciate that. I

669
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:57.119
am going to check in with some other people, but

670
00:39:58.159 --> 00:39:59.800
thank you so much. I hope you can hang out

671
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:01.039
in the audience for a bit.

672
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:04.159
Oh, thank you so much. I've spent about an hour,

673
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:06.559
so I've got to get some sleep. I'm in Nashville now.

674
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:08.599
So you got a great radio boys.

675
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:11.599
Well, thank you, Sarah. I appreciate it. You have a

676
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:18.119
good one, you too, Hey, Kat, Thanks for being patient.

677
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:20.960
I saw that you know a few people I know

678
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.760
as well. I'm pretty good friends with the Woodwalkers. Guys.

679
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:27.440
Oh good, excellent. Were you at Hollands?

680
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:32.400
I I wish I could have gone, but I'm out

681
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.840
in Iowa, so I wasn't able to make it down.

682
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:41.280
Okay, Okay, I went, and that whole year was definitely

683
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.360
you know Misty Haynes.

684
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:47.719
Yep, mister Spencer, and yes, Greg Grace.

685
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:52.159
Yes, I was one of the Me and my husband

686
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:56.360
were one of the first people there at Hollands when

687
00:40:56.480 --> 00:41:01.960
we went camping, and you really need to go. It's

688
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:09.280
quite an experience. Now, we had several people get violently

689
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:14.280
ill when we went and were hospitalized. It was a

690
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:22.159
real unique situation. But let me start with a little

691
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:28.559
bit about myself and my first experience. I was living

692
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:33.639
in Utah, and I'm sure you understand Utah has a

693
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:39.800
lot of activity of various types. And I was living

694
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:44.480
in Ogden. I was a young child of four or five,

695
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:51.000
and my dad had a Native American friend that lived

696
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:56.679
in Ogden Canyon and we would go camping, horseback riding

697
00:41:56.840 --> 00:42:01.960
and such back when we were young. I was approximately

698
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:06.440
five years old. I'm a wanderer. I love the woods.

699
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:11.880
I hike, I will disappear and nobody knows where I'm at.

700
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:18.599
And it happened on the mountain of Ogden Canyon and

701
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:23.119
they couldn't find me. They went on horseback looking for me,

702
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:30.239
and they said that when I returned, that I returned saying,

703
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:37.159
the man with harry hands brought me back. That was

704
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:44.239
my first encounter. However, I now live in Alabama, and

705
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:50.760
Uncle Jack, he was our native friend, said that there

706
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.119
were things in the woods that we weren't supposed to

707
00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.800
talk about, discuss, exploit things like that. They were to

708
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:05.480
be revered and kept silent. And of course there were

709
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:12.400
some things we weren't supposed to mention at all and anyway,

710
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:17.360
so I kept that to myself all these years and

711
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:21.280
when I met my husband, and we live outside of

712
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:29.440
Creepy Mountain. Actually Creepy Mountain is my backyard, and I

713
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.719
have a rock, a huge rock at the base of

714
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:36.760
our We have five acres up against the mountain, and

715
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:40.440
I would go to this rock, and I'm a Christian.

716
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:44.400
That's where I would go sit and pray and just

717
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:50.280
have quiet time. I've always been an adventure nature person,

718
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:56.440
and that's where I feel at peace. I started hearing

719
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:04.039
steps coming down from the mountain and almost a purr

720
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:10.719
or chugh. And this would happen on a daily basis.

721
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:15.880
I would get up pretty much before the sun actually rose,

722
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:20.519
and that's what I did daily. And this presence would

723
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:27.840
be there approximately about maybe ten yards away, up against

724
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:31.559
this lob lolly pine that we had that's got a

725
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:41.679
weird curve to it. And then eventually I started from

726
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:53.639
my peripheral seeing something almost. It wasn't that red rust

727
00:44:54.000 --> 00:45:02.079
everybody talks about. It was almost gray, a dark gray,

728
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:08.599
and I wouldn't move. I didn't want to make eye

729
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:13.559
contact or draw attention. I would continue doing what I

730
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:21.119
would do, and as time went by, flowers would show

731
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:27.880
up on my rock, a pile of acorns or rocks.

732
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:35.159
I even had some half eaten per Simmons on that

733
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:43.199
rock show up. So I would again continue. But then

734
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:50.920
I saw a hand, and I'm not kidding. He approximately

735
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:57.679
eight to ten feet up and he would rub on

736
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:02.480
this tree to the point after time he would rub

737
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:07.320
a smooth spot on this pine. Matter of fact, when

738
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:12.159
we cleared the backyard, we kept the pine because he

739
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:18.480
literally rubbed it raw and he would rub it. Why

740
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:24.880
I would sit there and pray and just meditate. Then

741
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:31.960
he one day peeked around and I just slightly and

742
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:39.920
looked him in the eyes. And he was old. He

743
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:43.559
was old, he was gray, he was worn. He was

744
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:50.480
not this rust everybody spoke of. And the smell was

745
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:56.320
not of like wet dog. I would hear the stories

746
00:46:56.599 --> 00:47:01.480
my husband would say, Oh it was that sour wet dog. No,

747
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.400
he had a smell of, naturally a forest dirt, pine,

748
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:13.599
but it was almost mixed with a wildflower jasmine kind

749
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:14.199
of smell.

750
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.320
And it was so.

751
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:32.039
Significant, and I didn't feel afraid. Matter of fact, I

752
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:36.599
was totally calm, but I did not want to be

753
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:42.840
obvious or draw attention. And it wasn't a growl, it

754
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:47.800
wasn't a bark. It was a chuff, a perr, a chuf.

755
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:54.519
And that continued up until we cleared the woods to

756
00:47:54.639 --> 00:48:00.880
put my son's trailer back there. And that was the

757
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:06.800
real close encounter that I had. However, when we would

758
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:11.119
go to Hollands, No, then there was a time I

759
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:15.000
was gathering chickens, moving them from one pin to another,

760
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.119
and this is about nine o'clock ten o'clock at night,

761
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:23.079
and I have a handful of chickens. I got critters everywhere,

762
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:28.599
and I'm not a spooky person. I love the nighttime.

763
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:33.280
I am barefoot in the woods. That's just me. I

764
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:37.280
was raised that way. My daddy had away with animals

765
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:41.960
and nature. He was a marine sniper, but when he'd

766
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.880
go in the woods, he could literally call deer out

767
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:51.039
of the woods. But so I'm carting these chickens and

768
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:56.360
I hear this almost like a boulder running down the

769
00:48:56.760 --> 00:49:00.519
mountain side, and that's Creepy mountain. It's coming down. And

770
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:03.280
I thought, oh my gosh, if they're after me, there's

771
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:05.880
nothing I can do. I got a handful of chickens.

772
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.679
Just come at me already. And I'm just standing there waiting.

773
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:13.320
And it stops right at the base of the mountain.

774
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:19.440
And of course I can't see a daggum thing because

775
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:23.480
it's dark, and I'm moving these chickens because the roosting's best.

776
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:30.239
Time it stops. I stand there just waiting. I don't

777
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:33.960
hear a growl, I don't hear nothing. I hear something

778
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:38.639
that just stops, turns around and marches right back up

779
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:45.280
the mountain. But when Creepy Hollins happened, I think it

780
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.599
was last year. I've got cancer, and I don't remember exactly.

781
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.559
We were the first people to camp out there before

782
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:58.480
the big meet up, and everybody from all over the

783
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:02.280
United States came over there and it was marvelous. But

784
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:07.320
that first night there in Hollins, I go walk in

785
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.239
the woods and my husband and one other man came

786
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.079
and they're chit chatting at the campfire and they're doing

787
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.960
their thing, and I told my husband, I'm going to

788
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:21.559
go do my walk about, and I had my little

789
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:25.920
video camera going, and I think Spence has the recording,

790
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:32.480
and I'm going through the woods and I'm coming back

791
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:38.519
and I can almost see the camper and you hear

792
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:43.440
it beside me something. You hear the footsteps, and you

793
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:48.039
hear the growls. And that one was a little bit

794
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:52.760
spooky because that's the first time I've ever heard it

795
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:59.719
be aggressive. Maybe not aggressive, but definitely territorial. And you

796
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:04.119
can hear it clear's day and I'm trying to get

797
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:07.639
that camera up, trying to look around see if I

798
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:14.760
can get an actual photo, and it's just wild. I

799
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:17.119
get to the campground and I'm trying to tell my

800
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:21.360
husband and I can't remember the other man that was there,

801
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:26.119
and we couldn't find the photo. And it was the

802
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:29.719
next day I found the video and I said, here listen,

803
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.159
and they freaked out. Oh and I got a picture.

804
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.800
If you don't mind, do you mind? No, go ahead,

805
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:42.400
I don't mean to be taken up your time. I'm sorry.

806
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:43.079
No.

807
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:46.079
So the great thing is that I really can take

808
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:48.079
as long as I want. Say, you're good.

809
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:48.920
Now.

810
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.199
I do want to make sure that people get the

811
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:56.480
context of this real quick, because this area is the

812
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:59.199
same area where they found the hunter at the bottom

813
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:01.679
of the tree stand and with his arms pulled out

814
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:02.760
of his sockets.

815
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:07.960
Right, yeah, the arms and legs literally. Yeah, okay, And

816
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:11.119
I wish I had the picture with the boot beside it.

817
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.599
The boot was twelve inches and this is much more.

818
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:18.159
That's just one. But you can see how his toes

819
00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:22.400
are dug into it. He was in a running position.

820
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:24.400
Let me get the other photo.

821
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:32.440
Hey guys, this is Holland's hunting camp down by. It's

822
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:33.840
an Alabama.

823
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:40.440
Look at the length of it. And and I'm sorry

824
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:47.119
I don't have the other picture, but yeah, craziness crazy there. Now,

825
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:52.079
this actual footprint is not at Hollins. This is at

826
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:56.519
a hunting club by my house. All of this, which

827
00:52:56.800 --> 00:53:02.239
Hollins is only about twenty minutes from me. You got

828
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:05.480
creepy mountain and then you got Hollands and they're all

829
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:06.119
right there.

830
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:08.360
Wow.

831
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:12.960
Yeah, I'm telling you someday I really want to get

832
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:13.360
down there.

833
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:14.159
You need to.

834
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.199
I need to make it happen. What is the so

835
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:21.639
how about this? You knowing so much about that area,

836
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:26.719
Hollands and being there, et cetera. What is the craziest

837
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:30.920
bigfoot interaction you've heard someone has had down there?

838
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:35.400
Oh my gosh, do you know Flat Rock?

839
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:37.639
Yes?

840
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:37.920
I have.

841
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.119
I've never talked to him, but I know who you're talking.

842
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:44.760
Oh my gosh. He has so much and he has

843
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:52.199
such recordings. He's had some really wild experiences. No, Dad,

844
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:56.280
ain't a bear track. I've I lived in Utah. I

845
00:53:56.519 --> 00:54:04.800
know bear tracks and oat whoops. Yeah, and actually the

846
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:10.760
black bear in Alabama are small. They're a little bit

847
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:15.000
bigger than a German shepherd. We don't have anything that

848
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:20.840
big here. Heckarder aren't even that big. But yeah, it's

849
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:27.199
I would say flat Rock had some experiences. Rocks thrown everything.

850
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:30.880
Actually the last meeting we had, do you know Mark

851
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:33.679
and Rebecca green Yep.

852
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:35.719
I just interviewed Mark a few months ago.

853
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:40.119
He is, they are marvelous. Yes, they've got some wild

854
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:47.400
stories as well, and precious people. And yeah, we've but

855
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:51.400
in my backyard. I've had friends just come and camp

856
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:59.199
in my backyard and some really I mean, if you've

857
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.920
heard of them talk about something that almost t REX

858
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:08.320
sound war. You can hear that from my front porch.

859
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:12.599
Oh man, you can hear that on your property. That's amazing.

860
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:16.800
Oh yes, it echoes all through our little We're just

861
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:21.400
like in a bowl of the mountains. But no, that's

862
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:28.119
just a little bit of my personal experience. And no, please,

863
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:31.800
anytime you want to come hit me up. We'll give

864
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:35.480
you a place to stay and show you around, take

865
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:38.719
you to Hollins Creepy Mountain. You're more than welcome.

866
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:41.639
That's awesome. I'll make sure I'm following you and I

867
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:45.119
appreciate that offer. I'll keep that in mind. But thanks

868
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:47.760
for hanging out for a little bit, Kat, and we'll

869
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:51.079
stay in touch for sure. Well, this is this audio

870
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:52.519
I can use on the podcast.

871
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:56.440
Babe. You can do whatever you want, all right, all right.

872
00:55:56.400 --> 00:56:02.320
Thank you, thank you. You have a good one. Good stuff.

873
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:07.360
She's so nice. She's very nice. Hi there, how are you.

874
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:10.440
I'm doing pretty good about yourself doing good?

875
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:12.800
Were you coming up to share a bigfoot story that

876
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:13.039
you have?

877
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:19.639
Yes, sir, there's been like that. I visually saw myself

878
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:27.599
one and my father and my stepmother witnessed an encounter.

879
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.679
I live where this happened. I was in Repbank, Tennessee.

880
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:36.199
On my encounter, I was I'm forty nine now, and

881
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.960
again this has been a moon ago for mine. I

882
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:42.920
guess I was probably about seven or eight years old,

883
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:48.320
and the area of Rebank, Tennessee, where we had lived,

884
00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:51.320
we had like a ridge, you know what I'm saying. Though,

885
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:54.599
One night we were just sitting around it, it snowed

886
00:56:55.519 --> 00:57:01.159
and you kept hearing like like somebody trying to shake

887
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:04.840
like the side of your house or tap on it,

888
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:06.559
or you know what I'm saying, stuff of that nature,

889
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:11.280
and just a like a It wasn't like a big

890
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:15.039
roar sound, but there was something that in the dark.

891
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:18.400
At my age, I was like, oh, this is not right.

892
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:22.079
My step my daddy, he's real big into like big

893
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:25.360
foot stuff of that nature. So he says, let me

894
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:26.960
let me go catch this right here, and he says,

895
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:28.559
we're gonna walk out there and find out what we got.

896
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.840
So as soon as we turned on the porch light,

897
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:35.960
there was a print very similar to that lady that

898
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:39.159
was just on there all but were the it looks

899
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:43.400
like claws. It was more of I guess it was

900
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:50.559
probably maybe, I don't know, let's say, maybe two and

901
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:54.960
a half inches wide maybe, and length wise from toe

902
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:58.920
to heel, I don't know. I guess probably give or

903
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:03.920
take somewhere around that same measurement, all right, But they

904
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.679
were more of a roundish color or no color, but

905
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:12.400
more of a roundish look on the toes. And then

906
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.320
like where you're where the bridge of your our feet are,

907
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:20.320
they were real flat and like a muscular you know

908
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:25.320
what I'm saying, tied very unusual footprint, but again, I

909
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:29.880
mean we're talking pretty long, fairly wide, and it went

910
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:33.599
and just went around the house and at the area

911
00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:36.480
it was at my sister's room. Now all of us

912
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.079
back then, my sister wasn't into no boys, nothing, this,

913
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:42.239
that and the other anyway, And so that was the

914
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:46.840
encounter I experienced, all right. But now my father and

915
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:50.960
my step mother this is there's an article that has

916
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:55.239
been written up in the Chattanooga Free Press, Chattanooga, Tennessee.

917
00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:59.519
It's around the Falling Water area, boy Scout Road area,

918
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:03.760
So just give you a landmarks here. And I've heard

919
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:07.639
stories growing up. But anyway, my father we used to

920
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.760
there's a creek that rested, they caught it around Sandswich Road. Oh,

921
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.280
there's the creeks we used to all go fishing and this,

922
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.280
that and the other. And there's a little railroad bridge

923
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:22.880
and whatnot. So one night him and my stepmother were

924
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:25.920
out riding around and just having a good old time.

925
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:29.880
Across the street all this news guy across the street

926
00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:33.760
and he had a German shepherd. Okay, so it got

927
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:36.320
to the point where some of these thugs this, that,

928
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:38.400
and the other they leave their trash and all that

929
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:40.800
kind of stuff. Anyway, he's like, well, he said, before

930
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:42.760
I let anybody in here, he says, I want permission

931
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:44.679
on y'all are going to have to give me a permission. O. Well,

932
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:47.519
I know you got who's there. So my father and

933
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.480
got permission to go in there. And every time you

934
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:53.840
go in there, that German shepherd would bark across the street.

935
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:58.880
So that night, the very night of this encounter, the

936
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:03.960
shepherd only barked one time. Okay. So as they're sitting

937
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.000
there and my father happens to look in his rear

938
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:11.079
view mirror. Now, they're right at the edge of the creek, okay,

939
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:13.360
because you pulled off down in there. They're right at

940
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.440
the edge of the creek. So from the top of

941
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:20.760
the bank to the top of the water is about

942
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:26.159
give or take, it's probably about five foot, okay, So

943
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:30.599
from the water to the bottom, you're averaging probably five

944
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:34.599
ish six foot, right, And so he just happened to

945
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.440
look up in the rear view mirror and lo and

946
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:44.079
behold there was some animal of what has been described type,

947
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.039
not necessarily but like she said, like a grayish color

948
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:52.880
with kind of red eyes, that had its front paul's

949
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:56.800
hands whatever you want to call them, and was setting

950
01:00:56.880 --> 01:01:01.079
there with the palls on top of the bank like

951
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:05.000
he was at the bottom of the creek. So my

952
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:08.119
daddy was going to get out, what is this? And

953
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:12.639
then there was a it wasn't really like a from

954
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:15.599
my understanding, like a like she said, it's kind of

955
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:19.360
like a dirt stench type smell, not something that'd be like, well, oh,

956
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:22.039
you know, get out of here. Smells words and garbage

957
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:26.360
or so on. So anyway, so my father decided that, hey,

958
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:28.719
look we might want to get out of here soon.

959
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:30.960
As then we went to drive off, that German shepherd

960
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:38.400
was laying behind their car. Yeah, And so as time

961
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:41.920
went on. This was in the two thousands, and I've

962
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.360
heard it growing up that there because a lot of

963
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:48.480
folks back say, back in the fifties forties somewhere in

964
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:53.039
there my grandfather's era, that people used to try line

965
01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:54.800
that creek a lot, and there's a few of them

966
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:57.639
that kind of lived on the edge of creek, and

967
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:02.320
that they are trotlines would get ribbed. So one of

968
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:06.400
my grandfather's real good friends decided, we're going to try

969
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.760
to check into this as somebody taking or cats or what.

970
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:15.519
And they called this same very type animal in the

971
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:19.800
middle of the creek raising the trot lines up and

972
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:26.280
biting the fish from the gills down and leaving the

973
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:31.039
head on the trot line. Really yes, And then there was,

974
01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:33.440
like I said, there was an article. It was on

975
01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:36.920
our news like WRCB Channel three news, and then in

976
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.440
the Tauga Free Press there was an article in the

977
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:43.519
mid two thousands. Over you can look this up at

978
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:47.280
Northgate r V Park is what it's called. It's right

979
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:52.159
there in that same area of they were tracking footprints

980
01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:57.719
of that very size, like a little family that came

981
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:01.320
down like in the fallish time like it was. And

982
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:03.519
then the folks like over in the following water areas,

983
01:03:03.559 --> 01:03:05.920
which is that's all I'm just giving you landmarks. That's

984
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:09.519
that's the Hickson area of Tattamugo, same place. Three seven

985
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:12.119
what are the three seven three four threes area code.

986
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:16.719
But some of the old timers were talking about where

987
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:20.760
they would come down off the mountain and like the

988
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:24.840
little hunting shacks or whatever, and that they would try

989
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:29.239
to from them being on the outside like it was

990
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:35.119
their territory and try to tear up things to demolish.

991
01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:39.639
And then we had a another encounter, as she would

992
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:43.639
dud was talking about the treesizes or whatnot on around

993
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:46.079
from right over there what they called Old Hickson Park.

994
01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:49.719
We were sitting there on that same very creek further

995
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:52.000
down from where I was was talking about the boy

996
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:55.000
Scout Road area, and we were sitting there. There's a

997
01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:57.159
it's like a little cliff, so you can climb down

998
01:03:57.199 --> 01:03:58.440
to be right there at the edge of the water.

999
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:01.760
There were trees. One night, we were just sitting there

1000
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:05.119
just having a good time. Fish wasn't really biting, and

1001
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:08.199
then all of a sudden year, boom boom, boom boom,

1002
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:14.239
you know, like running running sound. And then the saplings

1003
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:20.119
probably about say eight to ten inches round, were like

1004
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:24.519
just pushed over. And then again in some of the

1005
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:26.400
areas because there's a little bit of sand like where

1006
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:29.360
it would flood and stuff of that nature. Same type

1007
01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:34.719
prints around that area. But I just started share where

1008
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.559
you can, you know, back up into there if you

1009
01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:40.280
need to. And again, it wasn't a long drawn out

1010
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:43.119
story or anything like that. It was just a brief

1011
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:45.039
thing about wait a minute, we got somewhere around here

1012
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.400
that doesn't gaw. But I just thought i'dctor coney here

1013
01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:51.960
since I'm not the only one to tell you little

1014
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:54.880
friends or something of that nature. Man, you're just looking

1015
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:58.159
for spooks, you know what I'm saying now, So I

1016
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.519
just thought i'd done it. Ton in Tennessee area a

1017
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:07.079
red Bank, Hickson area bottom water of having encounters and

1018
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:10.519
like I said, I was born in seventy six having encounters,

1019
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:12.559
so things of that nature.

1020
01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:16.480
I appreciate you sharing. I had one guy come on

1021
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:20.159
the show once and he was talking all about your area.

1022
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:26.440
He had things from Lookout Mountain and Rack Caverns and

1023
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:32.800
blows Springs branch in Signal Mountain and Yesherson Bay State Park.

1024
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:36.239
It was really intense. That's episode yeah, seventy one. If

1025
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:38.679
you want to check that out, let me write.

1026
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:40.599
That down here reight quick. Yeah. See that single mountain,

1027
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:44.480
Fottam Water Mountain is the next mountain over from Sickle Mountain.

1028
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:45.719
Okay, gotcha?

1029
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.400
Yeah, So would you say that episode was I'm sorry.

1030
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:52.400
Just look up big Foot Society eight seven to one.

1031
01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:54.519
Eight seventy one.

1032
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:55.280
Yep.

1033
01:05:57.639 --> 01:05:59.280
And like I said, I'm not about being out in

1034
01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:01.239
the woods and stuff like that, and I growed up

1035
01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:03.639
on that creek. But it's a little nerve wracking. I

1036
01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:05.440
don't go alone.

1037
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:08.480
With that go down there, and I'm just gonna leave

1038
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:13.039
it at that, because again, I don't think the encounter

1039
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.079
that we had there sitting there on the rocks and

1040
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:17.440
creek and out of nowhere in the middle of the dark,

1041
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:18.639
all with the lantern.

1042
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:22.039
And then the next day you go on that side

1043
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:26.239
of the property and then you start seeing he's fairly

1044
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:29.760
good sized. Francis, I told you there, but eight to

1045
01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:35.039
ten inch round saplings, an average man, an average bear,

1046
01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:39.639
it's gonna take a minute or two to push it

1047
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:41.519
over next even if a bear could push it us.

1048
01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:45.239
But it was like somebody running through there, like we're

1049
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:48.199
the bulldozer or something. It wasn't really much sound running

1050
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:49.960
through there, but it was like they were just when

1051
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:54.719
I'm straight over and even hear wow, yeah, splash off

1052
01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:55.519
in the water. Yeah.

1053
01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:59.519
Yes, I appreciate you coming up, sir. Is this a

1054
01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:02.920
kindnversation I can put on my podcast to let oh?

1055
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:07.400
Absolutely, absolutely absolutely. I don't have no problem with that

1056
01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:10.000
at all, you know, because, like I say, you hear

1057
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:12.440
that from a lot of people. Oh man, there's nothing

1058
01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:15.880
such like that, and this, that and the other. But

1059
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:19.639
yet again, like you're this is what you're doing here

1060
01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:22.760
in the podcast because there's nothing like that out there.

1061
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:29.679
My question though with that is it's very rare for sightings,

1062
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:35.599
and as used to being a deer hunter, where do

1063
01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:37.760
they go won't be able to be seen? You know

1064
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:40.639
what I'm saying, somebody's going to be doing something. But yes,

1065
01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:42.440
feel free. I don't have a problem.

1066
01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:44.599
I appreciate you coming up, and I'm gonna check in

1067
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:47.039
with some other people, but I've got stick around down

1068
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:49.639
to the audience. But thanks, thanks man. I appreciate it.

1069
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:52.199
Yes, sir, and you have a great, wonderful evening. And

1070
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:55.000
everybody out there, including myself, y'all be safe. If y'all

1071
01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:58.119
get out there in the woods, y'all have a great evening.

1072
01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:03.679
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1073
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:07.000
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1074
01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:10.760
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1075
01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:13.639
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1076
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:16.920
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1077
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:19.920
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

1078
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:23.239
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

1079
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:27.000
the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you've

1080
01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:30.079
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

1081
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:33.479
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

1082
01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:36.840
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1083
01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:40.760
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil

1084
01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:44.039
field or a trucker with government contracts and you've had

1085
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:47.720
something happen that you've never told a soul, And if

1086
01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:51.359
you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher

1087
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:55.119
under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1088
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:58.159
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1089
01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:02.439
spiritual retreat you saw something that shook your faith. Or

1090
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:05.920
if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or anything

1091
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:10.399
with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't, then

1092
01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:13.640
I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1093
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:18.840
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1094
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:21.880
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1095
01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:26.680
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1096
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:32.079
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1097
01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:34.960
you for listening to this episode of the Bigot Society podcast.

1098
01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:37.479
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1099
01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:40.600
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1100
01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:43.520
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

1101
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.399
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1109
01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:09.439
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1110
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:12.800
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1111
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1112
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1117
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1118
01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:38.960
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1119
01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:41.800
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1120
01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:43.479
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