Jan. 21, 2026

I Watched Bigfoot for 8 Minutes | Mt. Hood

I Watched Bigfoot for 8 Minutes | Mt. Hood
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Season 1

Deep in the forests of Oregon, there’s a stretch of land that keeps drawing people back — Lolo Pass, the ridges around Mount Hood, and remote horse camps tucked far off dead-end roads.

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, I’m joined by Gary Allen of the Bigfoot Research Project, a longtime outdoorsman and field researcher who has experienced multiple Bigfoot encounters in the same Oregon backcountry locations over the course of several years. What begins as isolated moments slowly connects into something larger as he returns again and again.

Meadows, ridgelines, river crossings, and campsites near Mount Hood don’t stand alone. Patterns form. Certain locations respond. Certain routes feel watched. And some areas seem to wake up the longer you stay.

Resources: Gary's Youtube channel referenced in the interview
https://www.youtube.com/@bigfootresearchproject8081

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You're listening to bigflet Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society, welcome back

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to this show. We've got the privilege of soaking to

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mister Gary Allen today. Gary is a field researcher from

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the northern coast of Oregon and also some of the

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Cascades as well. You may remember he's got a Bigfoot

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themed YouTube channel that had some really interesting stuff on

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it and it's called Bigfoot Research Project. But Gary has

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had some incredible things happen over the years. We were

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just talking about it and I really excited to see

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where this conversation will go today. So welcome to the show.

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Gary. How are you doing, sir, doing pretty well? Pretty well?

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Thank you? Awesome.

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Oh my goodness. I'm going to have the show the

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link to your show channel in the description, and there's

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some fascinating, fascinating stuff in there. I want to make

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sure all my listeners check it out and make sure

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they're subscribed to it. But Gary, yeah, we've got some

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interesting conversations to have, so let's get right into it.

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You know, you were saying it's probably best to start chronologically,

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so you know, how did this all start out?

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For you? Man? I have notes, so if I look down,

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I'm not trying to be rude or anything. I'm just

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sure there's just a lot to cover here. So basically,

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when I was a child, I'm sixty three years old.

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When as a child, Patterson Giblin film came out, it

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was on local TV, and my mom, who's part Native American,

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uh told me that, uh, you know, she's she's been

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around them and and had activity when when she was

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growing up, she grew up in a logging camp in

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northern California, and and uh on her way to school, Uh,

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she'd see these oil drums that were full of oil

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thrown across a river and just crumpled, you know. Uh,

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I mean some forklifts could barely lift those. And here's

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you know, five or ten of them across across a creek.

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She said there'd be tracks all over and and her

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father told her never go into the woods alone, never

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go out at night, uh ever alone and you know,

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to be safe because the the forest giants will get you.

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And uh so, so she was always told, you know,

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beware of forest giants. They're not they're they're not friendly.

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So I think, I think that's what you know, parents

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tell kids, just to keep them safe. But not a

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bad idea with all the bears and cougars and stuff

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running around out there. So anyways, it progressed from there

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to My first sighting was in I want to say

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the mid eighties. I was riding a bike home from

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a buddy of mine's house on the road between Forest

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Grove and Gaston and there's a big field there, and

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back in the day there are virtually no houses, but

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my friend had a farm out there. So I was

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riding my bike home about one o'clock in the morning

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in July and on a moonlight night, and I noticed

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some movement out of the side of my eye in

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this field I'm riding next to and there's a creature

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the size of a horse running across the field, but

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horse legs narrowed down towards their feet, and this thing

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didn't narrow down at all, look like tree trunks. It

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was running on and the moon was pretty bright that night,

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and the road was like no cars whatsoever. It's kind

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of a back road. And the more I looked at it,

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the more I could kind of make out a little

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bit better. It was, you know, a black figure, but

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I could I could see the silhouette really pretty well,

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and I can see it didn't have any ears. I

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could see it was looking right at me while it ran,

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and it was effortless. It was like galloping effortlessly at

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you know, twenty miles an hour or so, eyes on

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a ten speed pedaling. Once I saw it, I booked, man,

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I was moving, and it's it paralleled me for about

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about three quarters of a mile, and then at the

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end of the field there's trees across and it comes

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right up to the highway and kind of a ditch

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and then the highway. And as I approached the end

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of the field, I was afraid that it was gonna

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come right at me, because it had nowhere to go

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but into these trees or towards me. And it had

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been paralleling me the whole time. And I kept looking

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over and it's it's looking at me, and I'd say

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it's about, uh two hundred feet away, maybe maybe two

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hundred and fifty and uh, just moving right along effortlessly.

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And the more I looked at and I noticed it

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didn't it didn't have ears like a bear, didn't have

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ears like a horse, didn't have a snout like a horse.

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But it was about about the size of one thousand

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pounds horse, maybe a little bit maybe a little bigger.

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It was. It was just huge. And I didn't know

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what I was looking at. I just knew I had

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to get out of there, and kept booking. I got

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to the end end of that trees, and I waited

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for it to cross over to the road, and uh,

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it went straight into the trees. And the trees are

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only like on one hundred feet thick right there, and

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then you pop out into another field on the other side,

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and and it didn't pop out the other side, thank god.

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And then not far about another half mile up the

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road as the turn off to the town I was

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going to, so that that was my first encounter, and

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that one, that one kind of terrified me, but it

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kind of I don't know, I I kind of forgot

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about it over time, kind of in a way. I

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was interested in it because my mom talked about bigfoot

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and as a kid, and I saw that thing and

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uh didn't know exactly what it was, but saw on

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a funny bigfoot show that they run on all fours

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and I was like that, and they showed a picture

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like a you know, cartoon in one or whatever they

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you know, however they make those, and it looked pretty

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much just like what I saw, and I was like

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that that that's it. That's that's what I saw. And uh,

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at that point I started to be kind of driven

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to to want to learn more about about what what

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I saw, what there was and and you know, how

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to investigate these things, how to how to how to

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get to it. I grew up in a family of

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people that hunt and fish. My uncle's a guide, my

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brothers are guides. They bow hunt bear. I grew up

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trapping and and you know, hunting and stuff. So I'm

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really pretty adept in the woods. And so when I

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saw that thing, I knew it wasn't a bear. I

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knew it wasn't a horse. I you know, I'm trying

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to put it in a box, and I just couldn't

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do it. But funny Bigfoot put it in a box

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for me, so then it is okay, let's look at

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this box. In twenty fifteen, I bought a motorcycle. Hadn't

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ridden in years. I bought a street bike. A bought

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a Harley. And my girlfriend's like, yeah, yeah, that's great, nice,

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this will be really fun. You got a bike that's

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good for you. And I thought she would tell me, oh,

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I don't want you on a dangerous bike. So next

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day she goes bought a horse. Yeah, so I didn't

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even know she was shopping for a horse. I guess

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she didn't know I was shopping for a bike. But

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she bought an endurance horse. She grew up around horses,

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had had participated in dressage and a bunch of other things.

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Trained horses. She's owned like ten or fifteen of them,

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and anyway, so she bought a durance horse who wanted

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to try out this new hobby and endurance racing. You

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train your horse to run twenty five fifty seventy five

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one hundred mile races. The races that you compete in

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are up in the mountains. They're not like in a

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city or on a track. There is no track. It's trails.

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It's mountain trails a lot of time, deer trails, elk trails. Whatever.

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The host who's running the event maps out. They put

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little ribbons on the right side of the trail and

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you run along to the colored ribbon for the trail

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you're supposed to be on, and you go out and

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come back and they have vets. It's a pretty big deal.

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There's you know, thousands of people nationwide compete. In twenty nineteen,

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my girlfriend got first place in her class out of

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four hundred and some riders, so she did really well.

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And her horse was just a beast. I used to

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call him beast Mode because that guy he was fearless.

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He'd see bears, cougars, herds of elk right in the

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path and just go right at him and and those

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things just scatter. Uh. He was he was just he

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was fearless. And another thing about the horses before I

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move on, one thing people don't really know about horses

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is their hearing is just amazing better than a dog's.

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They can hear a tree branch break like two or

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three miles off. I mean they're you know, they can

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hear foot footsteps of another horse two to three miles off.

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I mean, they're just amazing hearing, just amazing. And their

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eyesight is is like three times better than ours. They

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can see in the dark pretty well, almost like a

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black and white TV would be to us. Is is

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what what they see at night. So, being on a

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horse up in the woods, if there's a predator, they'll

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look right at it. And so as you move by,

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it'll be staring at the predator until it's not there

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anymore or it passes it. Uh. So you know one

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of the ultimate predator finding machines, you know that that

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we're just running up trails trying to get them fit

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to begin with. So anyways, I say all that because

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I've had since we've gotten the horse, I've had gosh,

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eight more sightings, and we think it's the horse that

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brings it in. And uh a lot of people agree.

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You know, Patterson Gilman were on horses, gosh, what's his

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name that that got this year sounds they're on horses.

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Ron Morehead yeah, and sorry, Ron didn't anyways. Uh, but

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but all these people are on horses. They're having all

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this activity, and I'm kind of getting why. There's something about, uh,

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you know, the pounding that the horse makes going up

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the trail or something there. They just they don't seem

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to be afraid of it. And I don't know if

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they just equate, you know, people on horseback to be harmless.

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I'm not sure. I'm not sure how that equates to them.

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But they're extremely curious about the horses. They come right

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into camp to see them. In twenty fifteen we got

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the horse. In twenty sixteen or seventeen, we went to

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a horse camp. It's called Rear's Horse Camp. It's just

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outside of Timber, Oregon. It's really close. What it was

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was when the Ptomac burn happened, right after the Feds

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send in replant cruise and so they set up this

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big campground. I mean there's one hundred plus people living

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there that would go out each day and plant trees

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to reforest the Pteoleomac forest. And this is the main

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campground they spearheaded out and it's like five miles out

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of Timber. It's my guess, but it is on a

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dead end rud. There might be some logging roads that

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come off of it, but they kind of dead end

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out there. There's nothing that really loops around. So anyways,

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off of this creek next to the tell them up

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to Banks Railway. Uh there's uh there's a campgroun called

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Rears Horse Camp and so uh we we go out

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to all different horse camps and all different uh horse

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trails to to train the horse. We try to get

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it someplace new all the time so that it doesn't

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get fixed in a in a certain uh you know,

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state of mind. It needs to be able to jump

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stumps just you know, boogie right along in about twelve

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miles an hour everywhere it goes. So anyways, uh, we

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brought the horse up to train there, and we got

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there on a Friday, and uh by then I was

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pretty into you know, finding Bigfoot. You know, Cliff and

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and everybody with you know, they're all heroes. To me.

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I was like, Wow, these guys are so cool, you know,

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with what they're doing. You know, wouldn't that be great

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to you know, to to see another one and wow,

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this would be Yeah, you think that until it till

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it happens. But anyway, and maybe you do after I

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don't know, but uh so, anyways, we go into this

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campground and it's it's down down in some some ridges

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and and if you follow the ridge and the campgun's

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on further down. There's a creek in this bottom and

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the railroad tracks are right above it. The road's up

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here and heads out to Timber. Above the road. Is

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this really tall ridge. I mean it's it's a couple

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thousand feet tall, heavily old forest. I mean trees are

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you know, four or five feet around, they're they're they're big,

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a ton of old growth, ton of ferns. I mean,

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it's just green, lush, beautiful, beautiful place. The trail there,

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it's about a I want to say, it's about a

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six mile loop. And the horse just loves it. There's

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a couple of creek crossings and it's just really cool.

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So we went there to go train the horse. We

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get there on Friday and we get the horse. They

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have big wooden corrals to keep horses in. We put

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the horse in the corral and we start making dinner.

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Well into the camp. Next to us, another rider comes

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in another pickup truck, with a camper and a horse

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trailer rolls in and after a while we walk over

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and because my girl's riding by herself on her horse

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and she would like to ride with someone else, so

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we go introduce ourselves. We invite them over for dinner

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or a glass of wine after dinner or whatever. So

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so they take us up on our invitation, and they

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brought some some like cake or something over, carrot cake,

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I think. So anyways, we're sitting at the table and

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it's twilight, it's starting to get a little bit dark,

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and I'm I'm just all into, you know, finding out

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as much information as I can from anybody I can.

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And I ask them, hey, have you ever seen anything

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strange while you're riding? And and they're gone, no, never, no, nope, nope.

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I go, oh, so you ever watch Funny Bigfoot? You

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haven't heard any noises anything like off of that show

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or anything? Nope, nope, never. I go with it. You

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wouldn't mind if I did a few tree knocks, would you?

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And they're gone, yeah, shoot, they're laughing, and go ahead.

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That sounds fun. Great. So I have a baseball bat

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Louisville Slugger with me, and I walk over to a

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maple because you want to you want to hit a

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hard surface a soft surface. It's just not going to carry.

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So I walk over this maple and I just crack it.

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I broke my bat right in half and just a

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big loud pop. And they're just laughing at me, you know,

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just dying in. About five seconds later, pop from way

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up on that ridge above the road, and that ridge

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is probably at least fifteen hundred feet above us, probably

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closer to two thousand feet, but near the top. And

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we're like, is there a road up there? Yeah, what's

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going on here? So so we're kind of laughing about

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a little bit, and I look around and I find

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somebody had been cutting firewood and they delimb this tree

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and I found a nice, big thick branch about four

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feet long that I could swing and hit it again.

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So I said, well, I'm going to do a triple knox.

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So I do it triple knock and then a triple

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knock off the hill answers back, anyways, I'll speed through this.

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That kept happening. We did it like five times and uh,

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and then all of a sudden a tree got pushed

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over and it's like halfway down. It was coming down

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the hill towards us. A tree got pushed over about

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halfway down the hill, and I mean it was. It

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sounded an old growth when it hit. I mean it was.

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It was. It was a bang when it hit, and

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you could hear it popping and stuff splitting when it

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when it started to get shoved over, and I mean

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it was we all just went to silence. We're like, okay,

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well and they're going, you know what, it's getting late.

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We got to go feed our horse and we're gonna

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go to bed and we'll ride with you in the morning. Great,

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looking forward to it. That's gonna be fun. And my

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girl goes, well, I'm gonna go feed our horse and

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and uh, you know, she I asked, you need any help?

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You want me to go with you? She's like, now,

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you know, I'm all good. So so she goes back.

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She's fearless, dude. I have the most fearless girlfriend in

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the world. Anyway, she walks back there and is getting

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getting water and stuff for the horse. I told wal

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Mac dessert and I went in the camper and I

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took the carrot cake. We had ice cream and it

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made up a couple of plates, and about ten minutes

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later she comes in and she goes, they're they're whooping.

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It's it's coming down, it's coming close. It's it sounds

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like it's up on the road now. So it's one

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hundred feet away, not you know, not a fifteen hundred

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feet up this hill anymore. It had come down the hill.

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And she goes, I'm I'm I'm just going to stay inside,

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you know, and uh, well, and you know, we'll just

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call it a night. And I was like, great, let's

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eat and you know, and I have the windows open

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because it's you know, summer, and I'm listening and I

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can hear owls hooting, you know, the the the burrows owves,

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you know, off in a distance, but they don't sound right.

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They're number one, they're too loud. And then they're dragging

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out the goo like they're just dragging it out normally

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go go go, you know, way faster, so not that fast,

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but you know what I mean. So anyways, I'm this

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is strange. This is strange, strange times. But you know, hey,

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you know, maybe i'll get it, get some audio with

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my phone. You know, I didn't have any recording devices

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or anything. At the time. So so anyways, we go

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to sleep. I wake up about two in the morning

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and uh, to the burrows als And now there's two

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of them, and they're out in front of our truck.

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It sounds like a couple hundred feet away coming through

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the campground, and you can you can tell ones on

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one side of the campground, ones on the other, and

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they're they're coming towards our truck. And they passed down

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both sides of our truck, you know, making the that

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drawn out, you know, And I didn't hear any footsteps

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or anything. But I was normally fly up higher than

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our truck. They're they're not like ear level. So anyways,

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they went by back to where a horse was and

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I was like, uh, crap, I better, you know, So

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I'm peeking the window open. I'm shining a flashlight on

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the horse, just to make sure that, you know, he's

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going to be okay. But beatmode he's like, yeah, whatever,

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you know, he's stomping around a little bit, but he's not.

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He's not just that distressed. When they get distressed, you know,

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they're distressed, they start kicking and jumping, and I mean

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they're they don't they won't have it, you know, they're

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just fed up and they're done with it. So that

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actually happened to my neighbor's horse a couple hours later.

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So so in the morning, I wake up and I

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look over and it's like first light, and I make

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I start a coffee. I pop up in our door

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and I see the neighbors are almost completely packed up

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and they're leaving, and I'm like, what, what, what's going on?

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You were supposed to ride, you know, with my my,

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my girlfriend, and they're going, we're getting about of here.

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If you called him in last night, and I was like,

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what they're going, Yeah, you know, bigfoot finder. You brought

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one in. And we woke up at three o'clock in

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the morning and the thing was reaching over the top

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of the crowd, trying to touch our horse. They said

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it was about eight feet tall, probably about four foot

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wide in the shoulders, solid black. They said that he

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stepped out with his forty five because he thought it

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was a mountain lion, because his horse was just not

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having it, kicking, screaming and dancing around, and and so

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he walked out with his forty five in a flashlight,

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and the thing was reaching over the top trying to

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touch the horse, and then it looked up at him,

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turned and just walked off right through the trees. And

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it kept the horse between it and him when it left,

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like it almost like it knew what a gun was

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or knew you better. You know, I don't know. I

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just knew linus to keep keep the horse between line

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of sight. So so anyways, it stomped off. He said,

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it stomped off, and you could he could hear it

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go across the road and stomp up the hill, and

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he said he they started packing. They're like grew this place,

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you know. Yeah, come to find out they do exist.

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So so anyways, I'm and he's he's really mad at

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me because I brought that thing in, you know. He's

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like yeah. So anyways, Uh, they they left and and

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uh we stayed and went and rode that day. We

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were going home that night. Anyways, we just stayed the

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one night. We we have a we own a farm,

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so we have to take care of stuff. So anyways,

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so fast forward, uh to uh one year later, we

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were at Northrop Creek, Uh horse camp. Beautiful. Both Rears

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and Northrop are like brand new. They're just beautiful, really

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nice well made campgrounds we're at We're at Northrop and

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about one o'clock in the morning, I wake up to

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a scream and it sounds like sounds like a woman

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getting stabbed today. And it didn't really change octaves, it

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was just but it lasted for about forty five seconds.

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And I know it lasted for forty five seconds because

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it woke me up. I had time to pull on

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my sweats, grab my forty five and jump out the

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back door. And with a flashlight, I thought that a

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cougar was probably attacking our horses, and I was just

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gonna I was going to decaffeinate it. So I pop out,

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I got the flashlight the forty five, and there's there's

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nothing there. But the scream came from right right just

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it sounded like about fifty feet away from the horses,

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across this real narrow campground road that we parked on.

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And it's the force is so thick there. I mean,

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if you throw a rock, it'd go like ten feet

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in and hit a tree because there's so many and

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it's all old growth. It's all you know, four or

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five foot round trunks. I mean they're you know, to

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two hundred and fifty foot tall trees. I mean they're

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freaking huge, and uh, I just couldn't see anything. Well,

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the horses were staring right over at that area, ears up,

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staring right at it, and whatever a horse's ears or

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or on, look at that spot because you'll, you will,

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you'll you'll see what they're seeing. They're like parabolic dishes.

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They just hone in on anything. So they're staring at

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those trees for I just sat out there with them

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and calmed them down. They were they were moving around

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quite a bit, but they they weren't screaming or anything.

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You know, they weren't kicking and screaming. They were they

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were upset though, you could tell. So they stared over

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towards those trees for about ten minutes, and uh to

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the point where I just walked over the flashlight in

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the trees. I was just gonna, I was gonna put

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an end to this, and uh, nothing there nothing. After

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a while. The horses just went back to eating, ignored,

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just ignored that spot. So I knew, whatever event that was,

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it's over. And you know, it's three o'clock in the morning.

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I'm dead tired, So I just went back to bed.

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Next day walked over to where the trees were. I mean,

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this spot walked around a little bit and no tracks,

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no cligne, no nothing, and whatever it was was gone.

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But the scream was so loud I could I could

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almost feel it in my chest through the camper. It

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was it. I mean, I don't know, it sounded like

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a freaking air raid siren loud. I mean, it was

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just loud, loud, loud, loud, loud, loud. And I've heard

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cougar scream and you know they go for like five seconds,

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so I've never really heard one go past that. This

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one was like big winded, you know, thirty five forty

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five seconds scream. It was still, it was still screaming

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until the point my door came completely open and the

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light shined towards those trees. So anyway, so that happened.

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So at that point, I'm I'm still you're thinking, you know,

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it'd be kind of cool to see one of these

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things again. You know, I saw the one run across

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a field. You know, it didn't attack me. I'm probably

452
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.119
you know, nothing so far has really come at us,

453
00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:12.559
so we'll probably be just fine. I just I just

454
00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:18.359
really had to drive to see one, so that all

455
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:26.319
changed in twenty nineteen. So I've had multiple sightings in

456
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.240
the coast Range and mainly around Mount Hood. We found

457
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.319
a spot I call it Scucum Ridge, but there's multiple

458
00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:35.440
trails all the way around Mount Hood and they're on

459
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.920
these ridges, just you know, first ridges around the mountain

460
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:44.039
and we go to a place it's by Lolo Paths.

461
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:50.799
There's like multiple campgrounds in there, and and we we

462
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:55.519
had trained in there before. We like mountains because it

463
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.720
really puts muscle on a horse. It really makes them strong.

464
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:01.400
And in race season, the more muscle you can get

465
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:05.400
on them, the better, you know, the more wind they

466
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:09.200
can move through efficiently, the better. And that's just it's

467
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:11.519
almost like cheating running them up hills. It's you know,

468
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.279
compared to people that just train on flats. So we

469
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:16.240
we took them up there the year before and just

470
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.240
didn't wasn't really paying attention to anything, didn't didn't really

471
00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:23.119
have any activity, wasn't wasn't trying to you know, I

472
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.599
don't try to go have activity. It just kind of

473
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:29.759
happens because we're out in the forest every other weekend

474
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.599
all summer long, all over the Northwest. So you know,

475
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:35.160
I've been up by Mount Rainier, been you know, all

476
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:39.559
over coast range, all over you know, to Prineville Bend,

477
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:43.720
you know, just everywhere, just all over the place. And

478
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:45.559
we get invited to go to races all the time.

479
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:47.359
We get invited to go stay at friend's house that

480
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:50.519
have ranches like we do, and and we do, you know,

481
00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:54.119
so we train all over the place. So anyways, we

482
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:56.319
go up to uh we go up to Lolo Pass

483
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:59.519
and we're we're training on these these ridges. We have

484
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.960
corrals are portable, so we can set up our corrals anywhere.

485
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:08.240
So we're set up and it's it's I think it's

486
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.519
like on a Friday week. I got off work early,

487
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:13.559
we went up and still light out. We got set

488
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:17.079
up fairly early, and so there's about five hours of

489
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:21.200
daylight left. And this one, this is going to take

490
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:23.920
a bit to describe the siding because we saw multiple

491
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:28.400
bigfoot So I hope your listeners, you know, buckle up.

492
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:34.559
So basically, I carry a forty five everywhere I go

493
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:38.000
in my camper in case somebody tries to break in

494
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.039
and hurt my girlfriend, or hurt the horses, or take

495
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.920
our stuff or whatever, and to protect us from Mountain

496
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.880
lions and that sort of thing. I don't carry it though,

497
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.400
when I'm riding my my my e bike that I built,

498
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.839
and I can show you pictures of the bike I got.

499
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:57.960
I built a fat tire bike, put a one horse

500
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:01.119
motor on it and a heavy capacity any battery. So

501
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:03.039
I trained with the horses. I ride with them at

502
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.359
twelve miles an hour, and I can go uphill, downhill,

503
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.960
I do river crossings, all kinds of stuff with it.

504
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:13.000
So I ride with the horse. I'm like, it's best friend.

505
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:17.160
We're we're we're hurt. And when when our our Mary

506
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:24.519
gets scared, she wants me out front. When our when Marcus,

507
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:28.039
our big male runs up a trill, he he doesn't

508
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:31.079
get scared. He's he's just a beast. I've seen Elk

509
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:34.480
run from him. I've seen bears run from him, mountain lions.

510
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.640
He nothing scares this guy. But you know he's he's

511
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.920
eleven twelve hundred pounds of solid muscle and will river

512
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.839
dance on anything that that makes him mad. You know,

513
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.359
elk or what's seven hundred pounds. I mean, so, so

514
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.400
he's bigger than than most anything will come up against.

515
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.160
So I think I think that takes the fear out

516
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.519
of him. I don't know, he's kind of crazy. Anyways,

517
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:02.160
he's amazing. But anyways, uh we so we roll in.

518
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:06.440
It's uh, it's like i'd say, five hours before dark

519
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.839
or so. My girlfriend says, well, hey, let's do a

520
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.759
quick ride. We're going to go up the trail and

521
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.279
just do do this. It's like a seven miles up

522
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.359
this hill, seven miles back, you know it. You know,

523
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.200
five miles an hour up and you know twelve back.

524
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:26.039
We'll be back in no time. And she's been up

525
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:31.720
this trail before, has terrible sense of direction, Like I

526
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:34.400
don't know anybody that has worse sense of direction than

527
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.759
she does, which is which is bad when you and

528
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:41.359
durance race. But they again have ribbons on the trail,

529
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.880
so if she's safe. But so anyways, she says, let's

530
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:47.519
just do a quick ride up the trail. So I

531
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.440
carry a machete on my bike in case there's like

532
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:52.680
blackberried or something crossing the path on one side has

533
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:54.960
a saw on the other side, it's a machety. It's

534
00:29:55.039 --> 00:30:00.720
you know, three feet long, and I usually carry a

535
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:05.359
three eighty with hollow points for cougars. Lady got killed

536
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:07.720
up there, like two years prior, she got mauled to

537
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:12.279
death by a cougar. And people, I'm telling you, you're

538
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:14.160
fool if you don't at least carry some kind of

539
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.559
spray with you, because those things pounce, especially women when

540
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:20.319
you're alone. A bad idea, and I've heard of them

541
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.839
pouncing on women riding horses for some reason. They leave

542
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.240
men alone for the most part. But I'm not chancing it.

543
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:31.000
I just carry. It's just safer. You know, my driveway,

544
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.160
I have bears that live just down below our house,

545
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:38.079
so I see wildlife a lot, and there's cougars just

546
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:42.519
mauled five goats like a mile from my house, our

547
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.920
neighbor's house. Unfortunately they lost five. We have guardian our

548
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:50.039
livestock guardian dogs, so the cougars leave us alone. But anyways,

549
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:52.240
so she said, yeah, let's do this quick spin up

550
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:53.720
the trail. And I'm sorry, I'm dragging this thing out,

551
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:57.279
but so we take off. It's about it's about i'd

552
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:00.839
say four o'clock and it's in July around my birthday.

553
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:05.079
I I'm a mid July birthday, and so it stays

554
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.640
light till you know, visible light, probably till about nine

555
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:11.640
thirty or so i'd guess. So anyways, we take off

556
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.799
about four and I'm thinking, you know, we're gonna be

557
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:16.880
at the top of this ridge. He says it's seven miles.

558
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:19.240
You know, at five miles an hour, we should be

559
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:21.640
up there like an hour half, right, It took three

560
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:24.559
hours to get up there. The trail is like this,

561
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.839
and it just has switched back after switchback. I mean,

562
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:31.279
I lost track of how many switchbacks. There are one

563
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.920
hundred more, I don't know. And then you're crossing over

564
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.599
different ridges. It's not one ridge that you go up,

565
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.279
it's multiple ridges and you switch them back, and finally

566
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:43.279
you pop over this ridge and there's a lake up there,

567
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:47.240
and it's this just sapphire blue little lake. It's maybe

568
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:55.039
all of six seven hundred feet across, and we can

569
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.680
see it from the ledge that we're on. And on

570
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.519
the other side is Mount Hood right there, and it's

571
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:06.279
just right there and just gorgeous. Sandy rivers down down

572
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.359
in the valley way down below us about I think

573
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:13.400
it's about a five thousand foot climb maybe six, from

574
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.200
the floor up to where we're at. The horse is

575
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.160
just not a problem. He's such a beast. Me On

576
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.240
the other hand, I've been I've been on a bike

577
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.960
dodging boulders and trying, you know, getting bounced around, and

578
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:28.720
you know, my shocks are are okay, but they're not awesome.

579
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.839
And you know, four inch tires do pretty good, but

580
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:35.359
it's it's not a cushy ride. So I'm kind of

581
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.759
beat up. But we get up there and get the

582
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.680
view of Mount Hood and take pictures, and you know,

583
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:43.720
we have our phone, so we're taking pictures and stuff.

584
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:50.200
And so anyways, there's a crossing there and one heads

585
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:54.799
to Rhododendron and the other one loops back, supposedly down

586
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.400
to where our campground is. That my girlfriend thinks that

587
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.359
that's the trip she took before, and she did. So

588
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:02.279
if we go that way, it's faster than if we

589
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:04.559
go back the way we came. Because now now we're

590
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:08.319
about you know, three hours have passed and so now

591
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.319
it's like seven or eight, I don't know, something like that,

592
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.799
probably closer to eight. Anyways, I'm telling her, well, you know,

593
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:17.599
I want to get off this mountain before dark because

594
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.240
I've never been here before. I'd like to get out

595
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.799
of here and back at camping, you know, eating those

596
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:27.200
steaks we brought. So so anyways, she goes, well, let's

597
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:29.440
let's go up. We got to go about another thousand

598
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:31.559
feet up this ridge, up up this trail, and then

599
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:34.440
it drops off and goes down the backside, and then

600
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.720
it's just switchbacks all the way back down, kind of

601
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.799
like what we came up, but it's a lot more

602
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.240
of them, and it's steeper and the narrow and the

603
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.759
trail is way more narrow. Up the front side, the

604
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:47.279
trail started out about eight or ten feet wide and

605
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:49.880
it narrowed down to about four feet. On the back side,

606
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.119
it's about a foot wide, and if you step off,

607
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.240
you're you're going to go. Probably if the horse fell,

608
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:57.799
it'd probably fall about four or five hundred feet before

609
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.359
it stopped rolling, and it hit a lot of trees

610
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:03.640
to stop to say, you know, people, you could grab

611
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:05.079
onto stuff, but you're going to go at least one

612
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.639
hundred feet. So anyways, so we head up. We head

613
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.840
up to the top of this peak, and this part's

614
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:12.920
kind of critical to the rest of the story, but

615
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.360
we're going up in it and she has this trail

616
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:19.679
and it looks like a washed out creek bed and

617
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.800
it's boulders that are like, I don't know, three and

618
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:24.960
four foot tall, so I can't ride my bike across.

619
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.199
I got to lift my bike up. So it's wearing

620
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.440
me out. Man. I go on a thousand feet over boulders,

621
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:32.280
sucked and and as I'm dragging it, I keep hitting

622
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:35.199
my brakes and my pedals and stuff against the rocks.

623
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.199
So I smashed my brakes so they by the time

624
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:39.599
I hit the top of this peak, I didn't I

625
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:42.719
had no brakes and I got to go downhill seven

626
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:47.559
miles with no brakes in bigfoot country. So so anyways, uh,

627
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.519
we get up to the top of the hill and

628
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.480
uh and all the way up that last thousand feet,

629
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:56.360
I was not a gentleman at all. In my speech,

630
00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:02.639
I've swore I I'm surprised that dark clouds didn't come

631
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.559
in and lightning hit me because I was a cussin

632
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.440
oh man, because I kept falling over trying to lift

633
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:10.480
the bike, and I get all cut up in my legs.

634
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:12.400
I was wearing shorts and they're all cut up, and

635
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:16.320
I'm bleeding out and smashed and bruised and not happy.

636
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:18.199
I was not a happy camper, and I was letting

637
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:20.159
the world know. But she was riding far enough ahead

638
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.360
of me, I didn't think she hurt me, so I thought, well,

639
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:27.039
I can you know. I heard somewhere that yelling helps

640
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.880
relieve pain, so I was yelling. So I get to

641
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.079
the top of the peak and she's like, yeah, I

642
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:38.239
heard you come and did you I have no idea why,

643
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:42.000
and oh before we got to the top of the peak,

644
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.000
one last thing. It narrowed down so narrow is like

645
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:48.559
six inches wide in one spot, and my freaking bike

646
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:50.920
hit a rock and the whole bike went off the cliff,

647
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:55.039
and I had to choose whether to push the bike away.

648
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:56.880
And I just built this thing, and I spent like

649
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.400
two grand on it to just push the bike away

650
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.639
and watch it go off a cliff or hang on

651
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:03.599
to it and try and grab some brush. So I

652
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:06.000
tried to grab some brush next to me, and the

653
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.559
bike went off anyways, and so it kind of drugged

654
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.119
me down with it, and I went off the trail

655
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:14.079
started sliding down the hillside, but I grabbed some brush

656
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.679
on the way down, and I went down about ten

657
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:19.960
feet before I finally was able to stop holding onto

658
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.559
roots of something. I got the bike in one hand

659
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.679
and that and the other and by god, I wasn't

660
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:28.280
going to lose that bike, and I drug it, you know,

661
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:32.239
you grab foothold with my feet and push and drug

662
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:33.960
and I got it back up on the trail and

663
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:38.320
I did not stop cursing for a while. But my

664
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.239
girlfriend has a picture of me with the bike upside

665
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:43.079
down on the trail and the horse is looking at

666
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.360
me like it looks they're both laughing at me, and

667
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.440
she's got her camera out. I got a picture of

668
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:50.840
that and it's on one of my videos on a

669
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:57.280
Bigfoot research project. So so anyways, that finished off my

670
00:36:57.320 --> 00:36:59.719
brakes right there. They're toast at that point. So I

671
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.360
get to the top of the peak and we start

672
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:04.000
going down. We get to the peak and amazing view

673
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.880
and there's no trees up there. It's alpine, so like

674
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:11.480
the last probably two hundred feet of cliff that went up,

675
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:13.639
it is just all alpine. So we drop over to

676
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:16.159
the front and you can see the sandy down below

677
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:19.840
and you can see probably the tree area where a

678
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:24.519
campground is. We're like, sweet, there's downhill, there's camp We're

679
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:28.079
gonna be everything's great. So we drop off the peak

680
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:31.440
and go down about on one or two hundred feet

681
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:33.559
and it's kind of windy at that point. Is a

682
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:37.559
sunny day, slightly cloudy, but a little bit windy up there.

683
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.519
So we're like, well, let's drop down a couple hundred

684
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:43.039
feet and eat once real quick. So we'd drop off

685
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.119
the hill, and we brought sandwiches, so we're like eating

686
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.360
a candy bar or a sandwich or something. And the

687
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:50.119
horse all of a sudden cocks its head and is

688
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:55.519
looking downhill behind us, And it's not unusual for a

689
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.639
horse to look around, but it was fixated, and I mean, like,

690
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.119
I've never seen it lock on to something and be

691
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:05.559
that fixated prior to that, and it wouldn't stop staring.

692
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.079
It was like something was coming up behind us, up

693
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:13.079
this ridge, but more in the trees. And I told

694
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.440
her it's got to be a bear or a cougar.

695
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:17.519
Something's in there. It's probably a bear because it's making

696
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:20.639
enough noise that you know, because cougars are soft footed.

697
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.280
But it's probably a bear in the horses here, and

698
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:24.960
it rolled rocks as it's coming up, and it's got

699
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.760
to be right in those trees, just you know, two

700
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.719
three hundred feet below us, up behind us, and I

701
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:33.639
got a picture of the horse staring at it, and

702
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:37.599
I took pictures of with my phone camera. I took

703
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.519
pictures of what it was staring at just in case

704
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:42.199
I could blow it up and see a bear in

705
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:45.559
there later. You know, I knew something was up because

706
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.360
it stared at while we were eating our sandwiches for

707
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:49.599
about ten minutes and it didn't take its eyes off it.

708
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:55.519
So that was the beginning of it and beginning of

709
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.639
the encounter. So so she says, well, due to your

710
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.199
foul language, I'm gonna go ahead and roll ahead of you,

711
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.639
and I'll stay about one to two thousand feet in

712
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.960
front of you, so you know you don't run my

713
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:11.559
horse over with your no break situation. And I told her, well,

714
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:15.119
I'm gonna I'm going to try and take the bike

715
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:19.039
and i'll because it's it's so steep uphill off the

716
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.000
trail and such a drop off it. What I'm gonna

717
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:22.679
do is I'm gonna take the front tire and scrub

718
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.280
it into the hill. So I'm taking speed off by

719
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:29.119
rubbing my tire against the bank, and I mean brush

720
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:30.800
and rocks it, shit or flight all over me. But

721
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.199
at least it slows the bike down because otherwise i'd

722
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:34.920
be doing, you know, two hundred miles an hour and

723
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:39.360
like a couple hundred feet. So so she takes off

724
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:41.119
and gets out ahead of me. I start to come

725
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:46.119
down the hill, and I didn't get two minutes down

726
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:51.039
the hill, you know, maybe maybe a thousand feet, and

727
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:57.559
all of a sudden, I hear a family talking, and

728
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.960
it was crystal clear. It was a mother a father,

729
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.880
and it sounded like two kids, and the kids sounded excited,

730
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:12.559
but I couldn't understand the language. It sounded like the

731
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:14.840
parents like they're going to freaking Disneyland. I mean, the

732
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:20.280
kids were and another one, you know, just I could

733
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.760
hear two different pitches of voices talking, so I knew

734
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:25.719
there were two young ones and then the parents. You know,

735
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:28.920
the father had a really deep voice, you know, and

736
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:32.239
the mother was you know, but they were all talking,

737
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:36.119
and they were behind me on the hillside where the

738
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.280
horse was looking. So they might have still been coming

739
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:41.679
up out of that valley, I mean, you know, several

740
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.719
thousand feet up the hill. Well at the time, the

741
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:47.280
horse was listening to them. But they came around the

742
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:51.599
ridge below me, and I'm going, I'm going, I'm going

743
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:55.519
down the ridge camps way down below, seven miles down below.

744
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.519
I'm going off this ridge and about to hit all

745
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.880
these switches, and my girlfriend's out in front of me,

746
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.400
and they're circling on the hillside below me through this

747
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:14.000
old growth and they're close, man, I mean they're well

748
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.800
I could. I could hear the voices clearly, and they

749
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.559
weren't screaming. You know. It wasn't nothing like run moreheads thing,

750
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:23.239
not not even not not even close. I would say

751
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.280
morehead to me after hearing these moreheads they were screaming

752
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:29.639
up a valley at them like they're pissed off. These

753
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:33.400
weren't pissed. They were happy. They were chilling. I mean

754
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:35.559
it sounded like a family, like I said, talking about

755
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:39.119
we're going to Disneyland, you know, and I guess you know,

756
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:44.639
Disneyland is me and my girlfriend. So anyways, so I

757
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:48.039
hear them moving along the hillside and so I speed

758
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:50.239
up because they're catching me, and they're catching me, no

759
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.639
freaking problem. And I'm thinking, well, there must be a trail,

760
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.280
you know, one hundred feet below me. But the trees

761
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:58.239
are so freaking thick, I you know, old growth, I

762
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:00.920
can't see anything. So I speed up to where I

763
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.920
see this rock slide. So the rock slide is like

764
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:08.480
a thousand feet it's probably three hundred feet wide, and

765
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.719
I'm thinking, at a trail that's one hundred feet down,

766
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:12.480
I'm going to see it at the rock slide. I mean,

767
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:17.039
there's no way I can't see it and get I

768
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.960
get there, and they had already crossed it. But I

769
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:24.679
looked down and there ain't no freaking trail. There's nothing there.

770
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:28.760
And that's that's when I knew, Okay, this is this

771
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.320
is not people. Plus at the speed they were moving,

772
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:34.960
I couldn't move my bike that fast without brakes, and

773
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.360
I was scrubbing off speed. I was probably doing ten

774
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.280
miles an hour. I was pretty much haul an ass,

775
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:43.400
like wrecking pretty much every time I scrab up speed off.

776
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.039
And they still went right around me like I was

777
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:47.920
chained to a tree. And they kept going down the

778
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.760
hill towards my girlfriend, who's who's down, you know, down

779
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.800
slightly to my right. They were on my left and

780
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:56.840
they were on an intersect course. I could hear them

781
00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.760
come out around the hill. They were still talking. They

782
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:04.719
went around me, and uh, and that's that's when the

783
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.360
fear kind of hit me, because I realized that that's

784
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:12.039
not people talking, that's not people. No, no, nobody can

785
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:16.320
move that fast. Not possible, and uh, I started getting

786
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:18.760
a little bit scared, and I just, uh, you know,

787
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:21.519
I just told myself, well, you know, you got a

788
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:25.559
a sheddy, you got a bike, you could throw at him.

789
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:27.960
You know, it is what it is. But I better

790
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.119
catch my girl because I don't want I don't want

791
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:32.320
her in danger. So I tried to get down that

792
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:34.920
hill as fast as I could, and like I said,

793
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.920
there's about one hundred switch back, so I get at

794
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.960
that point, I was probably ten percent down the seven miles.

795
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.159
So the path is really narrow. I mean in some

796
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.000
spots it's it's like it's like eight inches wide, and

797
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:53.440
then it's just drop and the hillside up. My elbows

798
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.880
hitting the hill on the upside, and it's old growth,

799
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:02.039
really deep dense forest, and the tree just trails like

800
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:04.519
get a forty five. I mean, it's as steep as hell,

801
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.159
and it's loose gravel, so my tires are kind of

802
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:10.079
slide around a little bit, and I'm just thinking, oh crap,

803
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:14.320
better not go off this cliff. I'm screwed. So I

804
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.559
get is it about? I was about ten percent down

805
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:20.599
the hill at the point where the rock slide was.

806
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:24.320
So I go a few more minutes down the trail

807
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:29.519
and then I start hitting these switchbacks, and they put

808
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:31.639
switchbacks in because it's too steep just to go straight

809
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:33.800
down the hill. So you got switched back after switchback.

810
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:36.559
And it's not an old cat road. It's it's definitely

811
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.480
like an elk trail that got improved for horses. And

812
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:41.880
in some spots it's it's you know, three feet wide,

813
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.400
but for the most it was about a foot wide.

814
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.159
And they'll have trees that fell over the path. They

815
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:51.599
cut out about about a foot wide of it or

816
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:53.440
two feet wide of it so the horse could pass through,

817
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:55.320
you know, so it doesn't have to step over it.

818
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:57.760
And then sometimes they leave them for a while and

819
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.280
have the horse step over them. Those ones have to

820
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.679
lift the bike over. But anyways, I'm going down the

821
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:10.920
hill and about five minutes after I left the slide,

822
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:15.440
I've gone through maybe six switchbacks, and all of a sudden,

823
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.840
I hear a horse behind me, you know, stomping, stomp, stomp, stomp, stomp,

824
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:23.559
and I'm thinking, crap, there's a rider on this narrow trail,

825
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:26.800
and I have to I have to move out of

826
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:30.719
its way because horses have the ride away. So I

827
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:33.159
dragged my bike up on the bank and the stomping

828
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:38.079
stops and it's just around the turn that I just

829
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:41.079
came around, and I'm like, okay, you screw with me, Okay,

830
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:43.280
I'm going to go. So I put my bike back

831
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:46.920
on the trail, I start going down again, go around

832
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:51.920
one or two corners and stomp, stomp, stomp stomp, And

833
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:54.360
I'm thinking it's it's a horse. I mean it's it's

834
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:56.800
like a thousand pounds if it's an ounce. And I'm

835
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:58.760
around horses all the time, I know what they sound like.

836
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:02.920
Sounded like a horse coming up and drag my bike up.

837
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.920
You know. I I've been kicked at and bid at

838
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:08.360
and stuff for not having my bike out of the

839
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.880
way before, so it ain't happening again. So so I

840
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:15.199
do that a couple of times. It happens a couple

841
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:18.079
of times up up on the top like fifty percent

842
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:21.320
of the hill. So I get I get to about

843
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:24.800
the halfway point and the stomping stops, and I see

844
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:30.119
my girlfriend and I ask, have you been hearing anything

845
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:35.119
in the trees at all? Anything? And she says, I've

846
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:39.719
heard some some whoops, both up above me and down

847
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:42.400
below me. And she says, they're close. I mean they're

848
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.400
they're within one hundred feet of me behind logs or

849
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:49.400
behind trees or something, but they're really close. And I said, well,

850
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:51.840
let's stay closer together. I'd like to keep you an

851
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.760
eye sight. And she goes, no, you keep racking and

852
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.719
I can hear you. She goes, I'm gonna stay a

853
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.840
little further out. She's fearless, so she's she's not afraid

854
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.440
of these things. But I said, fine, you know, I mean,

855
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.400
what choice do I have. She's on a horse that works,

856
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.320
and my bike has no break, so it is what

857
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.599
it is. So so she takes off. We're about worried

858
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:18.239
about the fifty percent down the hill mark or seventy

859
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:21.679
five percent down the hill mark. She takes off and

860
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:25.360
then I get not one hundred feet from where we

861
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.239
just talked, and I up just right above me out

862
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:31.119
here whoop, and just below me out here whoop. And

863
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:33.760
then get further down and then I hear whoop and

864
00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:39.639
then whoop like different tones. So it's either different you know,

865
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:43.800
different force people, or or it's you know, the same

866
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:47.440
one doing different tones. I didn't see anything though, I

867
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:50.800
just heard them and they were close, and I'm I'm

868
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:53.360
just thinking, oh crap, it's almost dark. I mean, it's

869
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:58.719
it's I mean, we're we're half hour away from Twilight,

870
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:01.679
an hour away from Pitch Black, and I don't know

871
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:04.000
where I'm at because I hadn't been on this trail before.

872
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:08.519
We're we're still at that point, probably three miles away

873
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:13.280
from camp and and the bottom is about two miles

874
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:18.480
down and and then you got across multiple rivers, which

875
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:23.039
I didn't know which sucks out of e bike. So anyways,

876
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:28.159
uh we we As we go down, I'm I'm I'm

877
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:31.480
hearing brush cracking and stuff off to both sides of

878
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:34.199
me as I come down the ridge and I finally

879
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:38.039
get down to the bottom of that last that last bit,

880
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.960
and honestly, I don't I don't remember looking around for

881
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:44.880
you know, sign or anything. I was more like, get

882
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:48.920
out of here, so, you know, get back to the camper,

883
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.079
you know, make sure that she's safe and the horse

884
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:53.960
is safe. So so anyways, we get to the bottom.

885
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:56.000
There's a river there. I got to cross it. It's

886
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:59.559
all on video. I have several years of me crossing

887
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:03.360
those the there's three. Two of them are pretty tiny,

888
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:06.079
but one's pretty good size. So I had to do

889
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:09.880
the crossing. I was so beat up I could I

890
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:13.039
could barely walk. Man, I'm fairly athletic, bucket and do

891
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.800
all kinds of stuff on the farm, but that just

892
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.440
tore me up. I crashed probably thirty times. So anyways,

893
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:22.519
I can't. I'm worried about getting through the water because

894
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:24.679
it's about three and a half feet deep and it's

895
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.480
about fifty feet wide, and it's moving pretty fast. And

896
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:30.400
I told my girlfriend, I'm gonna drop the bike and

897
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.400
if I do, it's probably gonna burn the whole thing up,

898
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:35.199
you know. Can you give me a hand here? So

899
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.280
she's like, yeah, yeah, no problem. So she ties the

900
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.599
horse off on the other side of the river, walks

901
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:43.239
back through, and helps me walk my bike across. So

902
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:45.199
she gets back on the horse and we start to

903
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.639
head up this trail and she still doesn't know where

904
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.280
she's at. You know, I don't know how far camp is.

905
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:54.159
I can't remember the trail and she's like, what you know,

906
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:56.920
am I supposed to remember this? Yes, you took us

907
00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:03.480
out here. So anyways, uh, we go through this kind

908
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:05.719
of swampy area with skunk cabbage and stuff. And then

909
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:08.039
just on the other side of it's this meadow. And

910
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:12.719
it was a fresh burnout meadow that I I have

911
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:17.480
tons of video of this area, but it's a burnout area.

912
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:19.960
The burn must have been fairly recently. There was no

913
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:21.760
undergrowth in there to speak of. I mean it had

914
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:24.719
to been recent. There's just a little bit of ferns

915
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:26.920
and stuff is only like two feet tall at the time.

916
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:30.079
Now it's like, you know, eight feet tall. So so anyways,

917
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:34.000
and a lot of trees are filled in. But so anyways,

918
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.440
we get we get to this this opening in the meadow.

919
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:40.320
It's about, I want to say, a quarter mile from

920
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.920
the rivers and and she goes, oh, crap, I left

921
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.760
my riding crop at the river. I gotta go back

922
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:51.159
and get it. And I said, well, leave it, I'll

923
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:53.360
buy you a new one. And she goes, no, this

924
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:55.599
crop was given to me by a friend that entrusted

925
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:57.199
me with it, and I'm not going to take the

926
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:59.679
tone lashing. And I go, well, you know, you heard

927
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:03.440
the wop and uh so it's you you know what's

928
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.559
going on? You know, She's like, you know, I'm gonna

929
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:08.599
go get that crop. So I was like, fine, she

930
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:11.039
goes well, and she should have rode the horse, but

931
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:13.239
she had me hold on to the horse, and she

932
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:15.239
walked it because she thought it was closer than what

933
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.000
it was. So she takes off walking and the horses,

934
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.559
you know, watching her walk off, and I'm holding my

935
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.440
bike up, so I put it on the kickstand, and

936
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.880
I'm holding the horse, and I see some grass off

937
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:29.639
to one side of the trail, and there's this kind

938
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:33.159
of open meadow there from where the trees burned, burned out,

939
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:37.360
and and I'm trying to get the horse to eat

940
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.840
this grass right there, because you know, they it's good

941
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:41.679
for him to have something on their stomach when they run.

942
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:43.639
He just had a bunch of water at the river,

943
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:46.239
so some food would be good. So he starts eating,

944
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:48.519
and then and he just looks up and he's just

945
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:52.480
fixated across this field, and his ears are like pointed

946
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:55.440
right at it, and you know, point it right at it.

947
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.320
And so I'm looking down the you know what's he

948
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:01.960
looking at? You know, And all I see is these

949
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:06.519
these burned out snags, you know, tred and fifty feet away,

950
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:10.239
I don't see nothing. So I'm tried to pull his

951
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:14.119
head down to eat, and he he had looked up,

952
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:18.920
saw that, and then he turned and was looking for

953
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.480
his rider, you know, my girlfriend. He's looking for her

954
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:24.239
and he wants her, I mean, he wants that of there.

955
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:26.920
And he spins around real fast, almost came out of

956
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:33.119
my hands, and is staring back at that field. And

957
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.840
I'm thinking, well, you know, there must be a deer

958
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.639
or something, you know. I don't know, So I tried

959
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:40.519
to pull his head down to eat, and he won't eat.

960
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:44.360
And this horse loves food. He lives for food. If

961
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:48.159
he's not running drinking, he's eating. So anyways, he won't eat,

962
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:50.360
so I know something's up, and he keeps staring it

963
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:54.400
across this field. So I finally see what he's looking at.

964
00:52:54.719 --> 00:53:01.800
And at first I thought it was a burdmark on

965
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:05.199
a tree because it was way too big to be

966
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:09.440
anything else. Way too big is you know, nine ten

967
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:12.039
foot but what it looked like as a man in

968
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:18.599
a hoodie with I'd say probably probably nine foot tall

969
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:25.159
at least and about half as wide as he was

970
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:32.440
tall at the shoulders, not like a solid block down

971
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:34.599
kind of like veed in a little bit to his

972
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:39.119
at his waist, but his legs were the size of

973
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:43.760
telephone poles, and his arms were near that big. And

974
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:47.400
I'm thinking, is that a person in a hoodie? And

975
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:51.719
all wearing all black and a hoodie. And at this time,

976
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.800
the sun was coming down right behind the trees he's

977
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:58.880
standing in front of, so I'm looking into a sunset.

978
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:01.800
The sun had already gone over the ridge, but it

979
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:05.519
was still it was still fairly bright, so I could

980
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:08.440
I could, I could clearly clearly see the black figure,

981
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:14.039
but I couldn't see any features on it. But and

982
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:19.519
I'm just thinking, well that that what is that? Is

983
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.920
that a human? Is that? Is that a burnmark? And

984
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:26.960
then all of a sudden it started rocking. I'm all

985
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.519
busted up. My bike has no brakes, it won't run,

986
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:32.880
the battery is dead on it, and by then so

987
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:35.039
I have to push it anywhere it goes or leave it.

988
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:38.039
And I'm holding on to a horse and my girlfriend

989
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:40.599
is gone the opposite direction that we need to go

990
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:43.840
to go get a riding crop. So I'm holding on

991
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:47.599
to the horse and it's anxious and it's it's it's

992
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:50.039
it's fighting me. It wants to go back to hurd

993
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:53.199
I'm holding it back and because I don't want it

994
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:58.000
to just run off down a trail. So I'm standing

995
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.599
there and I'm watching this thing and and it's moving

996
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:04.840
towards me, and it's moving really slow though. It's taking

997
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.639
like a step and then it rocks back and forth,

998
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:11.480
and then it takes a step, and then it rocks

999
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:15.639
back and forth, and it the more I look at it,

1000
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:22.599
the more I started feeling terrified. And like I said,

1001
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.480
I got buried my driveway. I throw rocks at him.

1002
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:28.960
You know, I'm not really not afraid of much, but

1003
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:34.559
seeing this thing, it terrified me. And I was just

1004
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.920
kind of stunned, and I felt like I couldn't move.

1005
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:40.800
I'm holding onto the horse, and I just like and

1006
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:45.880
I caught myself going, you know, breathe, move, you know,

1007
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.360
and I you know, think, you know, what do you do? Well?

1008
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:52.639
My woman is down that trail and I ain't leaving her,

1009
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:54.880
and she expects me to be right here. So I'm

1010
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:57.199
going to be right here because if I'm right here

1011
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.639
and it's staring at me, it's not staring at her.

1012
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:04.039
So I'll be the bait. I'm just going to stand

1013
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:06.960
here until she comes and I guess if it comes

1014
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:08.920
in close, I'll do what I can, you know, try

1015
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:13.679
and pull my machete or whatever. But I'm pretty screwed actually,

1016
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:18.840
so yeah, not trying to be a tough guy or anything,

1017
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:23.519
but I just had limited options. So I'm there. I

1018
00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:26.760
am standing there petrified. I could see the horse is

1019
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:29.440
pretty upset. And the closer this thing gets, the more

1020
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.239
upset the horse is getting. It's it's it's starting to

1021
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:34.239
dance around a little bit, and it's getting harder to

1022
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:36.639
hold because it's pulling me around with it, which kind

1023
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:38.800
of shook me out of my out of my you know,

1024
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:41.679
being petrified with terror, you know that I felt at

1025
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:45.760
the time. Now, remember I'd been taking pictures all day.

1026
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:48.159
I had my cell phone. It was actually in she

1027
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:51.280
had put it in one of her saddle bags. She

1028
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:53.480
has like these bags that go across the neck of

1029
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.159
the horse. But I don't know which pockets in and

1030
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:57.960
I'm not going to take my eyes off of this

1031
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:00.280
thing to find the phone. And honestly, I was even

1032
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:03.519
thinking photographs, yeah, just like I wasn't thinking, you know,

1033
00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:06.280
about shampooing it up or something I wanted to I

1034
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:10.119
wanted or comb in its hair, I'm just like, what,

1035
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:12.920
you know, what is this thing? And I know what

1036
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:17.920
it is, but my brain's telling me this, this can't be.

1037
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:23.400
It's this just And I'd already seen two of them

1038
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:27.119
by then. So I saw one looking over a log

1039
00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:30.760
at at at Rears horse Camp, Horse Camp, but it

1040
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:33.039
was uphill. All I saw was the shoulders and head

1041
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:37.079
staring at me for about five minutes, and then it

1042
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:42.039
moved away. But when they're moving towards you, it's different.

1043
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:49.119
And this thing kept rocking, and about every third rock

1044
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:53.039
it would take a step. It's its hands came down

1045
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:56.480
almost to its knees, had long arms. They were they

1046
00:57:56.519 --> 00:58:01.639
were massive, massive, bigger than my legs. Its legs were

1047
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:06.599
like I said, telephone poles. You know it's it's it's

1048
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:12.320
it's chest shoulder to shoulder. I don't know, four four

1049
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:18.239
and a half feet across easy, no neck cone head.

1050
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:22.199
Can't see the facial features because the sun's behind it,

1051
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.559
not in front of it, and it's getting dark and

1052
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:28.599
it's walking towards me, and I see it. It's getting ground.

1053
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:32.280
So it moved from about and I'm guessing here in distance,

1054
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.679
but about two hundred and fifty feet to about two

1055
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:39.079
hundred feet maybe maybe under that. And then here comes

1056
00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:44.599
my girlfriend up the trail. So she comes up the

1057
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:46.320
trail and she's got a riding crop and she's all

1058
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:48.920
happy as a clam. She got her ready crop crop.

1059
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:50.719
And I'm kind of I'm looking over at her, and

1060
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:55.079
I go, honey, look out in that field. Do you

1061
00:58:55.119 --> 00:59:00.719
see anything out there? Because at this point i'm you know,

1062
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:03.119
I'm not am I seeing something? You know what's going on?

1063
00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:07.239
So she looks out there, she goes, there's a bigfoot

1064
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:11.440
standing out there, rocking back and forth. Yes, there is.

1065
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.320
Let's go. She goes, well, don't you want to stand

1066
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:19.119
here and watch it for a bit. Nope, I'm good.

1067
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:23.119
I am good. I've been watching it for eight minutes. Yeah,

1068
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:27.840
I'm all caught up on wanting to see one. I've

1069
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:33.079
seen one now, so let's go. So she's so kind hearted.

1070
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.480
She said, well, I'll push the bike, you take the horse,

1071
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:39.800
because the bike was much harder to move. And we

1072
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:41.840
start going away from it, and I keep looking back

1073
00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:46.840
and it stayed in one place. Thank god, it stayed

1074
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:49.760
in one place. So we get about fifty feet away

1075
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:51.880
and she goes, by the way when we're hearing whoops

1076
00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:54.519
up the trail. She said, I saw two above the

1077
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:57.800
trail and two below the trail. They were standing behind

1078
00:59:57.800 --> 00:59:59.360
trees and they had their arm around it, and they

1079
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.079
were looking around the tree at me from about fifty

1080
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:04.960
feet away. And one of them was down below a

1081
01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:06.559
log and it was looking over the top of the

1082
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:10.800
log at me. But yeah, they were looking from around

1083
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:14.840
trees and watching me go by. And the horse stared

1084
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:16.800
right at him. That's that's how she knew they were

1085
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:18.639
there to begin with. The horse looked right at him,

1086
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:21.760
and you know, you look right between those ears on

1087
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:23.920
a horse and you see what it's looking at. And

1088
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:26.000
she says, yeah, just all of a sudden, they just

1089
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:31.360
popped right out their jet black. And you know, by

1090
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:36.239
now it's twilight, it's not bright out, so and by

1091
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:37.760
the time we got down to that meadow, I mean

1092
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:40.960
there were it was it was starting to get starting

1093
01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:43.360
to get to where it's hard to see. You know,

1094
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:46.400
I could see across this meadow and stuff because it

1095
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:50.559
was kind of open, but it wasn't real bright. So

1096
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:53.440
we're going up this trail. We know it's camps that

1097
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:55.360
way because we could see it from the peak up above.

1098
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:57.599
But we don't know how many miles we are out

1099
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:02.159
and and we don't know how many more water crossings

1100
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:04.159
if we had to cross the Sandy River, you know,

1101
01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:08.960
or who knows. We've never been there before, well she had,

1102
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:12.039
but you know, no sense of direction. So we're going

1103
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:14.960
up the trail and there's a few cross trails, but

1104
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:19.519
I'm seeing horse tracks at this one and multiple tracks

1105
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:21.599
going in one direction. I said, that's got to be

1106
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:26.400
the main trail going back to back to camp. So

1107
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:28.880
we take that trail and it gets it's pretty much

1108
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:32.079
almost pitch black by the time we get to the

1109
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:34.239
end of this trail, which is only like another half

1110
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:39.199
mile three quarters of a mile from from where we

1111
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:44.079
had our siding, and it pops out onto the road

1112
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:47.199
and I recognize the road because of a sign that's

1113
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:49.599
right there, and it's right by our campground. I'm like, oh,

1114
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:54.599
thank god, because it's dark now, and I didn't hear anything,

1115
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:56.760
you know, on either side of the trail or anything

1116
01:01:56.760 --> 01:02:00.519
coming in, but had seen quite enough and sure it

1117
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:05.079
was a day. So so we walk into camp and

1118
01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:08.679
earlier that day I had gathered we're the only people

1119
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:12.719
in this camp gun there's nobody else. I'd gathered wood

1120
01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:14.719
from all these other campsites and had it stacked about

1121
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.760
five foot tall. So I carried it all over to

1122
01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:19.199
the bonfire area and just lit it all at once,

1123
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:22.639
and I had the biggest fire. It was huge. And

1124
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:24.599
I'm like, okay, I feel a little safer now. And

1125
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:26.880
I got my forty five with hollow points out of

1126
01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:29.039
my camper and I'm carrying it in my pocket, and

1127
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:31.599
I'm cooking dinner just as fast as I can outside

1128
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:34.280
on our cookstove. And we're like, huh yo, getting late,

1129
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.159
we should probably go to bed. So we have the camper,

1130
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:39.840
you know, with you know, thin middle walls make you

1131
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:43.079
feel safer, you know that, and you know the forty five.

1132
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:48.199
But before we finished dinner, we're sitting there just about done,

1133
01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:53.440
and and off to the left, about two hundred feet away,

1134
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:56.679
you're here a whoop. And then off to the right

1135
01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:01.719
about the same distance, whoop. And then straight out in

1136
01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:07.039
front of us, down the hill, big tree gets pushed over. Crash.

1137
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:12.519
I mean really big tree. You know. I don't know

1138
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:14.199
if they've been waiting for somebody to come in to

1139
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:17.000
push that one over, but it's like they saved it

1140
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:20.280
up for us. They were like, yeah, bed time, let's go.

1141
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:24.159
So we we we had taken our dogs out. They

1142
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:26.519
were we had them in a kennels in our truck.

1143
01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:29.519
We took about we have this small outside kennel that

1144
01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:32.719
they could run around in and and swooped them up

1145
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:35.360
out of that, threw their butts in the camper and

1146
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:38.760
called it a night. Nothing else happened that night. You know,

1147
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:41.480
they probably I mean that we know of. They probably

1148
01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:44.239
came in and you know, got a close look at

1149
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:48.920
our rig and everything. But the horse wasn't distressed, didn't

1150
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:52.119
hear any weird noises. Nothing woke me up. And you know,

1151
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:57.840
I slept with the curtains pulled and uh and our

1152
01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:00.440
top vent open, which creates kind of a ball like

1153
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:03.320
dishy pick up sound pretty well. And it was kind

1154
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:05.400
of pointed towards our horse corral, so if the horse

1155
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:07.639
got upset, I could jump out with the forty five

1156
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:12.840
or whatever, you know, cougar's bears or whatever. So anyways,

1157
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.639
that that was. That was the end of that odyssey.

1158
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:19.920
I had something even worse happened later on, and some

1159
01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:22.119
other sightings in that same area that we could touch

1160
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:24.119
on another time. But what I want to get to

1161
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:26.679
on this one though, is that I was so scared,

1162
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:29.639
uh half, I was terrified that I didn't want to

1163
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.800
go in the woods anymore. I was done. And it

1164
01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:34.760
took about a week or two of my girlfriend coaxing

1165
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:36.480
me to go, you know, a little bit in the

1166
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:38.840
woods with the horse, and then further further, and then

1167
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:41.760
I was back in it. But in that two weeks

1168
01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:44.400
that I was terrified and wouldn't go, I contacted Cliff

1169
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:49.480
Berrickman at his museum and it's on the way to

1170
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:53.599
Mount Hood there and boring, and I told him what happened,

1171
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.400
and and you know, for people to be aware up there,

1172
01:04:56.440 --> 01:04:59.039
to watch out there in there and be careful. And

1173
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:00.960
I just wanted, you know, for people's safety. I was

1174
01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.440
just thinking, these people need to know these things are

1175
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:06.679
doing this. And and he said, oh, yeah, you know,

1176
01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:10.320
the Lolo passes full of them. He goes, he goes

1177
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:12.760
whereabouts where you and I told him, you know, whereabouts

1178
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:15.199
we were. And he went up that trail and casted

1179
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.079
about three or four cast of He thinks they're juveniles,

1180
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:21.800
the ones that he caught. I went there two weeks

1181
01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:25.360
later and I didn't cast anything. I didn't know how

1182
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:27.800
to or what that even barely knew what it was.

1183
01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:31.079
But I took a photograph and I laid my sunglasses

1184
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:34.679
down across the toes and they're about nine inches wide.

1185
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:38.719
So as a gift for doing a solid for Cliff,

1186
01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:41.920
I did a TV interview when he was first opening

1187
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:44.599
his museum. They wanted somebody that had an eyewitness siding

1188
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:46.960
that was recent. In mind was like two weeks before that,

1189
01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:51.599
but so did. I did an interview. It's on YouTube

1190
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:56.840
for KGW six, channel six, I think. But for doing that,

1191
01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:02.000
he gave me a laired meadow cast like like, I'm

1192
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:04.559
not sure, I think third generation. So it is a

1193
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:08.320
copy of a copy, really nice one. It's beautiful. It's

1194
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:12.079
seventeen inches long and it's about about six and a

1195
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:14.840
half or seven inches at the toes. Well, the truck

1196
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:17.800
that I found is about two inches wider on each side,

1197
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:21.320
and the big toes like I don't know, three quarters bigger.

1198
01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:24.519
And I got a photograph of it with my glasses

1199
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:27.000
sitting in front of it. So they put that on

1200
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:31.639
the news channel and I showed them, you know, here's

1201
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:33.880
the toes and my glasses are crossed to show the width,

1202
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:37.360
and they took the picture and inverted it the wrong

1203
01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:39.920
way and said, yeah, here's a cast, and they're trying

1204
01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:43.400
to show the length of the cast as a whole foot,

1205
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:46.559
and it's just the toast. So anyways, the only impression

1206
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:48.639
that was in the soil was I found a track

1207
01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:51.199
down by the river we had crossed. It was not

1208
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:53.440
on anywhere near the trail. I found it in some

1209
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:57.719
brush next to the trail, paralleling it on some soft

1210
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:00.719
dirt that was going up this ridge where you'd normally

1211
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:03.559
think to even look for something, but I just want

1212
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:06.880
to proof. So so anyways, I got a picture of that,

1213
01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:11.519
and so so that that, uh, one more thing came

1214
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:16.599
of that is I had previously talked to Joe Bee Lart.

1215
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:21.559
I bought his book Bigfoot Highway, Oregon Bigfoot Highway, and

1216
01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:24.239
an amazing book. That guy's probably the best writer of

1217
01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:27.719
any big Foot book I've ever read. He's funny, he's great.

1218
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:30.480
I mean, if you want a funny outlook on this,

1219
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:34.119
and he's not making fun of this of people, it's

1220
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:36.559
just fun stuff he says about the situation. You know,

1221
01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:40.039
he's just real. So anyways, I had talked back and

1222
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:42.320
forth with him a little bit in emails because he

1223
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:44.800
signed my book for me. I was like, hey, man,

1224
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:47.440
I had a siding. You want to you want to

1225
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:49.400
see it? And he's like yes, So I brought him

1226
01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:53.519
out to where I had my siding. We walked out

1227
01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:55.960
there and he and I have been going back to

1228
01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:59.639
that area every year since. So so I hang out

1229
01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:02.840
with Joe every summer. It's pretty cool. He knows a lot.

1230
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:07.559
He also has some friends that you know, Tom Powell

1231
01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:09.559
and some other people that I've camped with, and I

1232
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:13.920
invite them. I have I go up to this place

1233
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:16.399
every summer and we take our horse trailer in the horses.

1234
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:18.920
But it all started with that odyssey in twenty nineteen.

1235
01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:21.159
We found that area. And I've seen him in other places,

1236
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:23.840
but they're they're in the summer, they're they're around Mount

1237
01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:27.479
Hood pretty heavy, so so we know, you know pretty

1238
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.560
much guaranteed you're gonna have some activity. But that was

1239
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:33.000
twenty nineteen. Like I said, we've been going back every

1240
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:36.159
year ever since. I've made go pro videos. I finally

1241
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:39.039
got a camera that runs, so when I'm scared half

1242
01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:42.079
to death, I don't have to remember, and I have

1243
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:46.199
I have video of one standing in the meadow. The

1244
01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:48.239
next year, I got video of one pushing a tree

1245
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:51.600
over on a on a ledge up above us that

1246
01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:54.800
had been spooking us all the way up the trail.

1247
01:08:56.039 --> 01:09:01.199
I have video of rocks thrown, tree structures you wouldn't believe,

1248
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:03.760
and I can, I can get into all that, But

1249
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:10.079
chronologically twenty nineteen kind of set off the first terrified

1250
01:09:10.119 --> 01:09:13.000
to Now, I'm you know, we're gonna be out there

1251
01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.439
anyways riding. I'm gonna I'm gonna look into these things

1252
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:18.439
really deep, and I started to take a deep dive.

1253
01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:21.960
Do you any questions for me? Gary?

1254
01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:26.199
It's one of the most intense encounter stories I've heard

1255
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:30.560
in my five years of doing this show, Like honestly,

1256
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.760
and I know this area is crazy because I've talked

1257
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:37.960
to people that have also had things happen in Lolo Pass,

1258
01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:40.439
and I mean the area it's in is wild. I

1259
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:42.199
mean it's right next to Bull Run right.

1260
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:45.279
Like, yeah, it's a few miles down the road exactly.

1261
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:48.840
Am I gonna thank you for walking us through that,

1262
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:52.720
But man, it sounds like this is just the beginning

1263
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.319
of the story, really, and I would love to have

1264
01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:59.039
you back on if you'd be willing to, you know,

1265
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:01.840
if there's a there any other things you could share

1266
01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:06.800
since that time, or you know, just yeah, it's it's

1267
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:10.520
an incredible, incredible account. When you were watching it for

1268
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:13.760
eight minutes, What was the sound like in that area?

1269
01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:19.560
No sound, Yeah, that's how you know they're there. And

1270
01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:21.239
and if you if there, all of a sudden it

1271
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:24.600
goes silent, you have a chance of an encounter. If

1272
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:30.039
it's noisy, they're unless it's brush breaking if they're not around.

1273
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:33.119
But but everything every time I've seen one, and I've

1274
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:37.680
now seen I've had nine sightings now you know, with

1275
01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:41.800
the horse around. But I've also heard them talk. On

1276
01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:45.359
four different occasions. I've heard them talking. I've heard one,

1277
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:49.640
uh screaming like a deaf mute, really close to camp,

1278
01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:53.119
walking around. And these these are all, you know, stuff

1279
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:55.439
I can I could talk on another show. But I've

1280
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:58.119
seen tree structures where they take limbs this big around

1281
01:10:58.159 --> 01:10:59.960
and they shove it through tree trunks. I have photo.

1282
01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:03.159
You know, no man can do that. They've shoved him

1283
01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:05.199
in straight in up and down up this trail. And

1284
01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:08.479
then the US Force Service goes in and cuts those

1285
01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:10.319
trunks off. Well, they're already trunks. What do you need

1286
01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:12.279
to cut them again? For well, they have these branches

1287
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:14.680
shoved in it that you can't pull out. I have

1288
01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:17.239
signs that are all twisted up and put in wrong places,

1289
01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:22.479
all kinds of tree structures. I have video, I have photographs.

1290
01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:26.000
I have terror bytes of video of me and the

1291
01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:28.760
horse going up the trail's just us and going you know,

1292
01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:30.279
way out and back. And I have a lot of

1293
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:32.239
fun video of just us and the horse in places

1294
01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:34.880
where they're not at because I try to video all

1295
01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:38.159
of our rides just for fun. But I have so much,

1296
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:41.960
so much data. And then I have friends that have

1297
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:47.319
had conversations with them while they're walking by. One had

1298
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:50.800
a conversation with my friend. Didn't understand what it was saying,

1299
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:53.079
but he tried to talk to it, and it was

1300
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:55.880
a female who said it was the most beautiful voice

1301
01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:59.640
he's ever heard, most beautiful female voice. And it had

1302
01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:01.880
walked up a trail by him and Joe be Lart

1303
01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:05.680
and was within ten feet of him. He said it

1304
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:09.039
was about an eight foot tall female and he was

1305
01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:12.600
lit by moonlight, but it was talking to him as

1306
01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:14.880
it came up the trail, just a real quiet voice.

1307
01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:17.560
And he said it was just real pretty voice. And

1308
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:20.119
he said Hi, how you doing, How are you tonight?

1309
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:23.039
How's everything going. He tried to carry a conversation, and

1310
01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:24.920
he would pause and it would talk, and then it

1311
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:27.279
would pause and he would talk, and it talked to

1312
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:30.199
him for about a minute or two as it walked by,

1313
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.279
and Joe and his wife were asleep in a tent

1314
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:36.319
just across the path, and it walked between them, and

1315
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:39.720
Joe was so pissed when he walked up. He missed that.

1316
01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:42.560
You know, but I hang out with John. John's the

1317
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:45.079
guy that heard that. John's a really good friend. We

1318
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:48.840
hang out a lot and we have good times. There's trails.

1319
01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:52.359
I won't go up anymore. It's too dangerous, only because

1320
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:56.359
they shoved trees down towards us and I got that

1321
01:12:56.439 --> 01:13:00.960
on video. But yeah, a lot has go on. I

1322
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:04.239
would like to come back and and it feels good

1323
01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:07.359
to get everything out in one place. I haven't talked

1324
01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:09.800
about this stuff in a couple of years, and I've

1325
01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:12.399
just been going up and field researching. It's what we do.

1326
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:14.680
We just go out and ride and it's just part

1327
01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:15.199
of what we do.

1328
01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:18.079
So your encounters are incredible. Gary, thank you so much

1329
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:21.800
for coming on. I mean, I definitely would love to

1330
01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:26.399
have more future conversations with you. Thank you so much

1331
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:31.479
for coming on the show today and again, listeners, go

1332
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:34.479
check out Gary's channel. I'll have it linked in the

1333
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:37.920
show notes and subscribe to it. There's so much to

1334
01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:41.479
watch there that is really fascinating. Bigfoot research project.

1335
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:44.840
Yeah, yeah, I bought the name from one of the

1336
01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:48.159
four Horsemen used to be up at Mount Hood has

1337
01:13:48.199 --> 01:13:50.960
a big research project. Yeah. That symbol on the side

1338
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:55.159
of his truck. I bought, Yeah, Peter, Yeah, I bought

1339
01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:57.199
the brand. So so I owned the I owned the

1340
01:13:57.239 --> 01:13:57.880
business name.

1341
01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:02.039
So that's got to be a story in itself. But man,

1342
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:04.680
we will be in touch Gary. Thanks so much to

1343
01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:07.840
be continued. What a conversation, all.

1344
01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:10.199
Right, Well, a pleasure talking with you and look forward

1345
01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:11.159
to hearing from of you again.

1346
01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:14.760
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1347
01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:18.039
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

1348
01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:20.920
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1349
01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:25.479
it for myself. Well guess what this year you can

1350
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:29.079
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1351
01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:33.960
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1352
01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:37.760
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1353
01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:41.920
even better than the previous year's. Reason number one. I'll

1354
01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:44.640
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

1355
01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:50.159
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

1356
01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:56.399
heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

1357
01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:58.520
you just got to be there. We'll leave at that.

1358
01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:01.359
More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

1359
01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:06.560
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

1360
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:11.479
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

1361
01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:14.640
not only go to the festival, but you can also

1362
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:22.279
sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

1363
01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:27.039
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot Spots

1364
01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:31.000
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

1365
01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:34.680
up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

1366
01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:37.920
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

1367
01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:41.039
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

1368
01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:44.319
It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

1369
01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:49.399
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

1370
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:54.039
dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

1371
01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:58.800
like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a two

1372
01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:01.640
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

1373
01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:06.920
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

1374
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:13.439
that you guys can can get a little help with

1375
01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:16.760
the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

1376
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:21.039
you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can

1377
01:16:21.079 --> 01:16:23.359
talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

1378
01:16:23.439 --> 01:16:27.000
many people last year and the year before. It is

1379
01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:29.960
an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

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and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

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I want to say something directly to a very specific

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group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

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or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

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can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or

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forestryt worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're

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a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

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or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

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working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

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to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic or

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search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

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that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry

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on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

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contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

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a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

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or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

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you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

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or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

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that shook your faith, or if you work in the

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shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance, and you've seen

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what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,

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even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

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Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

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what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

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You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

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in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

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of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

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us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

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and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

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tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure

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to subscribe to the channel on YouTube, hit the bell

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And if you're listening to us on Spotify or Apple Podcast,

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please follow the show there and leave us a five

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star positive review because all that helps more people discover

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the show. And remember, if you or someone you know

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has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear

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from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail

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dot com and let's start the conversation. If you haven't

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gotten a chance yet, check out our membership community over

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at www dot Bigfoot societypodcast dot com and that's where

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you can hear tomorrow's episode today early in ad free

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and members only episodes every week. Also, it's a place

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to connect with other people that are into the Bigfoot

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subject as much as you are. Thanks again for following

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along with the Bigfoot Society until next time, Keep your

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eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking what

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else might be out there? And see you in the woods.