Oct. 15, 2025

In Memoriam of Scot Violette (and Call-In Encounters)

In Memoriam of Scot Violette (and Call-In Encounters)

GO FUND ME TO HELP SCOT'S WIFE, HANNAH GET BACK ON HER FEET HERE - https://www.gofundme.com/f/nehemiah-3-many-hands-make-light-work What happens when a man trained to decode ancient rock art discovers that the symbols aren’t just history — they’re...

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What happens when a man trained to decode ancient rock art discovers that the symbols aren’t just history — they’re warnings?
In this moving memorial episode, we revisit the life and field research of Scott Violette, Native American cultural anthropologist, Desert Storm veteran, and founder of Squatch America. Traveling across the country with his wife Hannah, Scott spent years uncovering the hidden connection between ancient pictographs and modern Bigfoot encounters.
From the Blue Mountains to Wendigo Pass, Scott documented tribal stories that described Sasquatch not just as legend, but as living kin — sometimes a teacher, sometimes a killer. You’ll hear about the time he tested their intelligence by leaving puzzles and toys in the forest — and returned to find 500-pound rocks rearranged in response.
And after Scott’s story, listeners share their own encounters — truckers, veterans, and wilderness workers who say they’ve seen what the rest of the world denies.
A heartfelt tribute to one man’s search for the truth — and the mystery he left behind.

In this episode, Scot recounts his experiences from investigating sightings in the Blue Mountains of Oregon, where he encountered Bigfoot firsthand near Marble Creek. Discover how his studies of Native American pictographs have revealed ancient depictions of Bigfoot. Scot also shares his theory about Bigfoot as an older version of humans, and discusses the remarkable vocal abilities these creatures may possess, including infrasound. Hear about his travels across the U.S., from capturing reports in Texas to investigating hotspots near Crater Lake and Wendigo Pass in Oregon. Learn valuable tips for aspiring Bigfoot researchers and how Scot's unique, community-engaging approach, like holding Bigfoot town halls, helps gather vital information. Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, Scot's stories and insights will leave you captivated and curious.

Resources:https://www.youtube.com/@SquatchAmerica

See Scot's Bigfoot finds here - https://squatchamerica.com/unique-bigfoot-finds-from-squatch-america/

Scot's video on his pictograph find - https://www.youtube.com/live/nFLm4qRWVOU

More information on the Tule River Pictographs (with photos) - https://www.isu.edu/media/libraries/rhi/research-papers/Mayak-Datat-Hairy-Man-Pictographs-1.pdf


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You're listening to Bigflea Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails in remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. Today we're doing a special episode

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in memoriam for mister Scott Violet, who passed away suddenly

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very recently. This episode was recorded back episode seven point fifteen.

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I never got to meet Scott in person in real life,

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but I was able to talk with him as I've

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talked to many others over the internet. Scott was a

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guy that I learned a ton from just in the

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hour we're able to talk together. My opinion, he had

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years left of research that could have happened, and he's

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gone far too soon, and it was a real tragedy. Scott.

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This one's for you. I'll also have the link to

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his wife, Hannah's GoFundMe that is currently active, and if

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you can donate to that please as it helps her

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get back on her feet. If you can donate anything,

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I know that she would greatly appreciate it and Scott

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would greatly appreciate it as well. But thank you again

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for listening, and again this episode is in remembrance of

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Scott Violet. You've got the privilege of talking to mister

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Scott Violet today. You may know him from the groups

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Squatch America. I'm gonna read a few things about Scott

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he was nice enough to provide here. He's a Native

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American cultural anthropologist and the founder of Squatch America, which

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is a national Bigfoot research group. He's a Desert Storm

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Army veteran and travels the US full time in RV

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with his wife Hannah, investigating cryptic sightings and exploring Native

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American rock art related to bigfoot lore. And of course

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they have their YouTube channel, which we'll probably talk about later,

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and it's a mix of science, history and hands on research.

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Welcome to the show, Scott. How's it going, sir, It's

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going great, and thanks for having me absolutely. I do

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like to start out when I have interviews with individuals

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such as yourself that are really have been into it

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for a while. I always like to know what was

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it that first got you into the Sasquatch community.

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It goes back quite a way as Actually, I was

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actually born in Eastern and I grew up in the

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Blue Mountains, which is heavily trafficked to buy bigfoot and

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Bigfoot enthusiasts. I don't know if people are familiar with

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the Freeman film from the early nineties. I grew up

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fifteen miles from where that film was taken. Bigfoot folklore

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was pretty common in the area I grew up in

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I but as a teenager I really didn't paid too

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much attention to it.

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I thought, oh, that's cool Bill.

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But later on in life, after I became a Native

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American culture anthropologist and started working with tribes all over

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the nation, I started to notice the common theme. Every

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tribe of the nation has a name for these things,

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and they all have legends and stories and history, and

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particularly my expertise in Native American culture is pictographs. I

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learned how to read them all four different languages, all

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of them, and when I started finding stories about Bigfoot

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on rocks that are hundreds of years old. That started

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to peak my entry a little bit. So after I retired,

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I thought, you know what, I'm gonna look into this

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Bigfoot legend a little bit closer. And as I started

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looking into it, and I've set up a Facebook page

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to try to get stories from people locally.

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As soon as I did that, I got hundreds and hundreds.

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Of stories from people in the area, and I'm like, wow,

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there's a lot more to this than I originally thought.

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And then I started delving in and I got hooked.

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So I've been there ever since.

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That's awesome, and this whole subject it does not I

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don't think it takes much to hook you. If it

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it gets you just right, you're in it for the

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long haul. So you made a local group in the

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that was local to the Blue Mountain area. You were saying, yeah, wow,

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yes it did. You've got hundreds that you must have

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gotten some really wild stuff from that area.

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people telling us stories and finding things. It's amazing.

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So do you I think that area is definitely a

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active hot spot in the Blue Mountains current day?

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Yeah, absolutely, we find footprints in that area almost every year.

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What a lot of people don't realize about the Blue

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Mountains of eastern Oregon. It has what is it, twenty

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six thousand square miles of forest that nobody lives in.

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That's a plus. But the upper end of the Blue

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Mountain Range runs into Idaho and into Montana and connects

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with the Rocky Mountains, and then the southern part goes

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south through the Ochico Mountains and connects with the Cascades,

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which goes south into northern California and then into the Sierras.

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It's a natural corridor between the two mountain ranges. So

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to time, this is the corridor they take. We're basically

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a hallway to get from the Rockies through the Cascades,

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and so there is a lot of activity there and

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I think as they move is where we're finding bigfoot

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in that area all the time.

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That actually, that just opened my mind to a way

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I have not looked at the map before. And yeah, no,

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it totally could. Yeah, it's a corridor from the Rockies.

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That's amazing. How does one become a Native American cultural anthropologist.

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Lots of college and bills, student loans, let's count student

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loans basically what I originally went into college and I

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had first I had a career in the military, and

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then when I got out, I used my GI bill

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to pay for it, so that helped a lot. But

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what got me interested in it is I had originally

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had went into college just to go into anthropology in general,

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and I didn't really have a direction in anthropology. It's

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a huge field and there's a lot of directions you

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can go in it. But luckily the college I went to,

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the professor there was really into the Native American side

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of things, and our college actually had an archaeological day

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on a Native American village that was two hundred years

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old that we were sifting through, and it was part

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of our project every year to go work on this.

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And when I started seeing the pictographs and stuff in

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the area, I thought, Wow, that was really cool. I

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really love the depictions. Plus my professor was also into

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Egyptian folklore, so we actually had a whole course we

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had to do on Egyptian pictographs and stories. In fact,

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at the end of the year, one of our finals

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was you have to write all you have to do

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is write your name on a piece of paper and

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turn it in and if I can read your name

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in Egyptian hieroglyphics, you pass. So we actually had to

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learn that detail of the Egyptian language. So when I

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started comparing that to the Native American language unlocks, I

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started discovering that, oh, this is easy to read, and

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I thought it was a lot of the Native American

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pictographs are basically directions, go up this mountain, there's deer,

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the rivers to the south, stuff like that. And when

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I started reading notes, I'm like, oh, this is really cool.

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So I said, I want to learn this language. So

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that's what I got into it to get your degree,

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to start taking classes, I guess i'd have to say,

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and then you'll find the direction in anthropology you'll like

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to go.

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Has there been an example of a pictograph that you've

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been able to see over the years that you feel

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is just a really good example of a Sasquatch pictograph.

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Yeah, I've got three of them actually that I've found

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over the years, well four technically, but one of them

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is a secret deal and the tribe doesn't want it

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to be revealed. So I don't talk about that one

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too much, But there's the famous one that was originally

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found years ago in California and Porterville. There's a life

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size a foot tall pictograph of a bigfoot family and

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it tells a story. And what's really interesting about that

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one is a lot of people have talked about that

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pictograph for a long time. But when I started looking

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at it, I noticed something I don't think anybody else

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had noticed. And there's two symbols on the bottom of

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the pictograph. There's like a story of a hunting party,

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a hunting animals deer near a spring, and they found

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footprints near the spring, and they had an encounter with

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a bigfoot family, a mother, father, and baby.

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But down at the.

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Bottom of it, I said, the hunting party and had

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the symbols of an ancient weapon called an at level.

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And those at Littl symbols are very interesting because the

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tribe in that area have actually stopped using or transition

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to using bows from at laddls are like a spear

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chucking device, and they had transition to using bows almost

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twenty five hundred to three thousand years ago. So if

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this picturegraph still had at levels on it, that dates

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it a little bit, so I can say that's possibly

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twenty five hundred to three thousand years old picture of

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a bigfoot. It's probably the first one we've ever seen.

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And then I found two more with the exact same

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symbols on it. And the symbol for a bigfoot is

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a creature with short legs, long body, long arms, but

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the arms are always you see it like out from

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the shoulders with the arms down from the elbows, and

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that is to symbolize the size of this thing and

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saying it's big. It's like this, why it's huge. And

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then they never have a neck and it's in the head,

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you know, it.

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Surroundish on top.

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But there's always a kind of a v from the

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head which shows there's no neck and which looks like

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what bigfoot would look like to people today. They have

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a longer torso than we do, the long arms, the

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huge bodies. So this depiction showing short legs and long

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arms is telling you that it's not the same proportion

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as a human. So I have found three of them.

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There's two an organ that I have found and two

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in California, the one I can't talk abouts in California.

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The three main one three main ones are two an

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organ in one California.

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So I want to clarify something. When you say the

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Porterville pictographs, is that the same one as the Tuley

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River graphs?

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That's it?

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Okay, yeah, near the town. So you have actually I

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didn't even think of that possibility. So you've actually found

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pictographs of Sasquatch yourself in your exploration.

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Two.

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Oh my goodness.

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I have a lot of people walk by picture graphs

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and petroglyphs not even noticing that they're there. A lot

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of times, like loss on the rocks will cover them

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up and things. But if you know what to look for,

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and I've been doing this for quite a few years,

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I start noticing them almost immediately want to walk into places.

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And yeah, there's one in the Blue Mountains of eastern Oregon,

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by the way, that it has three symbols on it.

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One of them is the bigfoot symbol, one of them's

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a stickman symbol. And the stickman symbol, I might add,

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is on the same one as the Tuley River one.

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They have stick men on it too. The stick man

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is a Native American danger symbol. Basically, they don't even

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talk about them. If this is on a picture graph

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that means danger. So it's got a bigfoot, it's got

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a picture graph of a stick man, and it has

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a picture graph of a circle with a line going

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into the top of the circle and coming at the

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bottom of the circle, but not.

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Through the circle.

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And what that is a directional symbol from Native American footglory.

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It's the It means go up the trail, go round

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the valley, because it's right there pointing out a valley,

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go around the valley, don't go through the valley. Danger

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bigfoot basically is what that story says.

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This is absolutely fascinating. I think most people are probably

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familiar with the Tuley River one, but I never thought

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of the possibility that there could be other forms of

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these same pictographs found in different areas. You're saying the

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Blue Mountains of Oregon than another area in Oregon, some

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unnamed areas in California.

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California.

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Yeah, yeah, is the second Oregon. Is that in a

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similar geographic part of Oregon or completely different in geographic area.

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in the Ochiko Mountains where it's a little more desert

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d there's still a Mountain Range, but it's more in

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the bad lands of Oregon is the one we found

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there which has it's got a thousand symbols on this

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one rock and it's basically telling a story. But what's

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really cool about that one is really caught my eye

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and I thought, this is the coolest part of this

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whole pictograph is it has two rivers that come together

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and it has two symbols of two different bears on

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there in different locations on the rivers. And then what

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it does is on one side it has a large

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depiction of a bear claw a footprint of a bear.

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It has that symbol there, and then next to it

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it has a symbol of a big foot track, so

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it's really points out the difference we know, the difference

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between the bear print and the big footprint. And then

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on the other river it has a depiction of has

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the typical symbol of the bigfoot along river with deer there,

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so they saw bigfoot hunting deer by this river. The

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other river on the other side of the fork is

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where there are a lot of bears. So beware, it's

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really interesting the story that one tells.

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Wow, this is absolutely blowing my mind right now.

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Home.

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Man, Are there even more instances of pictographs that have

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been found in Oregon as well that would contain sasquatch

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pictographs in them.

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Not that I know of.

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There's been some stuff like there's a bigfoot face that

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was carved on a rock that was found near the

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Columbia River, but that's the only other one that I

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know of. I'm sure there's probably many out there, but

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they're probably hidden in the woods somewhere and nobody's just

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run across them yet.

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Wow, man, Fields, do you have pictures of what you found?

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Are these available on your website or YouTube channel at all?

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Or yeah, they're on our website and Squatchamerica dot com.

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Okay, we'll definitely have that linked in the show notes. Field.

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I'm probably just extremely late to this party, is what

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it comes down to. But because I'm like, this is

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a really big deal, Scott, Scott's I have known about

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this for a while. Yeah, this is cool. I love this.

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Did this stuff gets me jazzed up? And oh yeah, okay,

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so let's how about this. Is there a catalyst event

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in your life that happened that really kicked things off?

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It's like, all right, now I'm going to take an

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RV around the US with my wife, and really, is

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there something that happened to you that really got you

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on board with all this?

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Absolutely there is I had mentioned. I started that Facebook

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page and started getting stories from people, and up until

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that point, I was probably after studying print casts, some

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of the famous ones from the past, and some footprints

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that I had found, after studying those and noticing the

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morphology in it, because when you go through anthropology school,

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you know you have to literally take a human body

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skeleton that's in a box and put it together and

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name every bone in it, so you get to learn

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how humans are made and how the history of human

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development and all that things. So looking into all this stuff,

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I was like, probably ninety five percent sure these things existed.

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I always had a little bit of doubt in the

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back of my head until June of twenty eighteen. What

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had happened was we got five reports from five people

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that didn't know each other in the same area in

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the same week, and I'm like, that's where I need

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to be. So I was going out there. I had

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been out there for two days in a row and

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I was going out for the third day. And funnything

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happened on the way to big footing. Now that was

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my wife's one of her friends, her dad was having

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a birthday and his birthday wish was a big footing

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because he'd never done it before. So they contacted me

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and said, hey, can you take this guy out big

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footing with you tonight? And then I'm like, it's his birthday,

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and I'm sure, no problem. I'd never met the guy

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before the day of that day, so he hopped in.

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The truck with me.

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We drove up in the mountains and we went hiking

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down this trail that I had checked out the prior

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two days because that's where all these reports were coming from.

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And hiking along the trail, I smelt the worst smell

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I've ever smelt in my life. And I'm like, I've

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heard this described, but I've never experienced myself. A wet dog,

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garbage and onions and skunk altogether. It's a really bad,

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pungent smell. So we stopped and I'm like, oh, my gosh,

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that coming from and We're looking around in circles in

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the woods trying to figure out where this is coming from.

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So I probably did the dumbest thing on the planet

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is because I was new to it back in the day,

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so I just went, ah, I growled off in the woods,

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and it mimicked me exactly. And that's when I saw

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this little head two hundred feet down the hill from me,

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and this little tiny opening in the tree limbs swaying

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side by side, and they're like, oh my gosh, that's

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a big foot. And I got my camera up. I

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got one blurry picture of it, because that's the way

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it works. And then we heard a whistle off to

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our left and it ducked into the woods and vanished.

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So I spent three days there.

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We went down to where it was at and I

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found footprints where it was standing. I found nine inch

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footprints and sixteen inch footprints, and then so I did

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all my archaeological stuff. I set my camera up on

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a tripod where I was holding it almost exactly and

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tried to get the exact spot shot a laser down

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through the trees. Figured out where it was standing from

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the footprints and where the laser hit. The nine inch

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footprints was six foot tall, but the sixteen inch footprints

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behind it. I thought there was another one that I

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didn't see until I went back and we got until

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later on, even a couple of years later, I got

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somebody who had the technology to really enhance the photo

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I had, and there was another face behind it, the adult.

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I can't tell you how tall that was because it

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was bent over looking up at us. So that's when

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I had a Native American. I told this story to

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a Native American elder and he said, that's when Bigfoot

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stole your soul.

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Like, yeah, that's probably the case. So that's that was

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the pivotal moment when we.

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Decided to sell our house by an RV.

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Hit the road.

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And up until then I had this little group called

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Blue Mountain Bigfoot Research, and we turned it into Squatch

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America and hit the road nationally and started following up

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on these stories ever since.

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Wow, that is fascinating. What do you think the phrase

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Bigfoot stole your soul means? How do you take that?

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There's two different ways to take it, and any of

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the American culture is one spiritually, like Bigfoot literally took

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my soul that day, and that's why I'm looking for

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him to get it back. That's been you know, I

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like to lean towards that one. I need my soul

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back Bigfoot. I got to find you again. But another

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one is you just become obsessed with this to the

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point where you're going to give up everything and do it. So, yeah,

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that's probably one of the or the two meanings that

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I can probably take from that.

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It's extremely trusting. Is it possible to give a roundabout area?

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And this is something we talked about beforehand, But the

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area where this sighting took place or is it an

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area where give a nebulous region or.

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Oh no, I can tell you where it's at. It's

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if you go to the Blue Mountains. There's a little

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town in eastern Oregon called Baker City, Oregon. And behind

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Baker City, Oregon, there's a road that goes out of town.

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It's called Pocahontas Road, and it goes up to this

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place called Marble Creek.

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And this is that's where I had my siding. Now

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that's Marble Creek.

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Road goes over top of the Blue Mountains, over the

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mountain on to the other side of the hill where

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this little town called Sumter is now. This area here

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is it's called the Alps of Oregon. The highest peak

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is ten thousand feet. It's not an easy drive. You

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gotta have a four wheel drive to get up over

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this mountain. So it's about halfway up on the Baker

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City side of the mountain. It's where I had my siding.

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But it was also in a watershed area where you're

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not supposed to be, same as the Freeman film back

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in the nineties was in the watershed area where people

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weren't supposed to be. I was walking the edge of it.

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I was legal, so I wasn't in the watershed area,

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but so this area, and it was about five thousand feet.

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So one of the interesting things I found over the

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years when we're getting reports a big foot, especially in

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the Blue Mountains and in the Cascades. Also, as most

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of the sightings are over five thousand feet, that must be

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a line they draw they live above that, probably because

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not many people go above that.

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Yeah, so that's where it's at.

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It's in eastern Oregon, in the Alps of Oregon, outside

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of Baker City.

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Remembering what you saw that day, would you describe it

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as something that was more ape like in facial features,

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or maybe more human like or something completely different.

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I totally would lean toward more human. It looked more

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like a person than it did an ape, having you

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know my background, I can let's go into what I

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think these are. This is my working theory. Granted is

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a theory, but from what I saw, if I had

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to picture what the skull looked like underneath the skin,

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because I've seen lots of humanoid creature's skulls over the years,

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I would lean toward this is human. And I'll tell

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you why. I a second, this is human. It's just

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an older version of us that hasn't been extinct. And

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this is why. And there's not this missing link that

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everybody says they're looking for. If we go back into

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human history, it wasn't one thing turning into the other,

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turning into the other turning the other. That's not how

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it worked, and we know that through DNA even today.

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That really emphasized this theory that say humans started somewhere,

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there's always been a human and no, we did not

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evolve from apes. In fact, there's a theory today that

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maybe apes evolved from us, not the other way around.

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But there was always a human back in history somewhere

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that started and they adapted.

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So if you think about a group.

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Of humans in Africa three million years ago, as their

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population grew the area that lived in couldn't sustain them.

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So this group moved over here, and then they moved again,

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and then they moved again over millions of years. By

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the time they got into Europe, their bodies have changed

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because they're in a different type of forest, different climate.

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They had to adapt, so their bodies changed over thousands

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of years. But they're the same people that started in

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Africa if you look at it that way, they just

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look different. So at any given time in human history,

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there's been five to six types of humans that lived

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together at the same time. We're Homo sapiens. But did

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you know we overlapped Homo sapiens with Homo florenciences, which

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is actually newer than us, Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo erectus home

452
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:28.640
in the Delhi, and hom Neanderthal. There's six that overlapped

453
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:31.680
with us that were still alive while we were alive.

454
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:36.480
And here's a big schocker. Did you know that Neanderthals

455
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:37.599
are still alive.

456
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:40.279
That I did? I know they've been able to find

457
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:44.559
individual Well, this is what I've heard, individuals with pieces

458
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:48.480
of Neanderthal DNA. I think that's real.

459
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.720
Yeah, yeah, that is absolutely real.

460
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:53.200
Okay, that is absolutely real.

461
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.480
So Neanderthals came from France, and they came from the

462
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:02.799
Acadian region of France, so they didn't go extinct. The

463
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:06.480
French people bred them out. They're actually we're talking back

464
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:07.799
in the Paleo time.

465
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.880
But they are us. They were in US.

466
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.720
So if you're French and you're from the Acadian region

467
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.960
of France, which I am, actually five percent of my

468
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:23.799
DNA is Nanatal. And if you want to know Acadians

469
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:28.559
when they migrated to the United States in the sixteen hundreds,

470
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:33.240
and they're the French people speaking people in Maine, in

471
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.960
Nova Scotia and Canada, and then some of them migrated

472
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.240
around the horn in Landon in Louisiana and the word

473
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.359
Akkadian got changed to Cajun. So if you wonder why

474
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.799
Cadans are a little off, is because they're park Caveman.

475
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:53.279
I'm Acadian French. My dad is full blooded. I'm half

476
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:58.200
Acadian French Cajun. So we bred them out. So there's

477
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:01.119
no life. So why is today any different than it

478
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:04.279
has been for the last three or four hundred thousand years.

479
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.680
We've always lived together with another type of human, another

480
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:12.240
adaptation of us. So I hased today any different. I

481
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:16.279
believe that these things are us. They are a human,

482
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.279
an older version or maybe even a newer version. It

483
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:23.359
could be that too, but I'd lean towards an older

484
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.599
version of us that hasn't had to change or adapt

485
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:30.000
because they're find the way they are and have been

486
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:31.920
that way for thousands of years.

487
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.160
Okay, so this is very interesting. I'm going to go

488
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:40.160
down this road with you. So it's fascinating. So in

489
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:45.440
that case, then, so let's say you get these reports

490
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:52.359
of things like infrasound and really interesting things. Is that

491
00:28:52.480 --> 00:29:01.519
saying then that maybe we forgot how to do these things.

492
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.160
Or we lost it over the years. Yeah, so here's

493
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:05.079
something very interesting. We get the end of the in

494
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:08.599
for sound and the whistles and stuff. I have recorded whistles,

495
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:13.200
I've got recorded whoops that I have recorded. And one

496
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:15.079
of the really cool things I did is I took

497
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:16.599
a little bit different path.

498
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:18.960
My wife has.

499
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:23.839
Her degrees in music, and she was a choir teacher

500
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:28.799
and a vocalist and a voice coach, and her college

501
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:33.000
professor same but with a doctorate, is into choir and

502
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:36.319
singing and stuff. And I played these whipping sounds for

503
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:41.319
him and he about fell out of the seat. He goes,

504
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.279
oh my gosh, I hear something that you probably don't

505
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.160
because you don't do this every day. He goes, these

506
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:50.920
sounds are in five octaves, and humans can only do three.

507
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:54.400
I'm like, okay, So we threw it in a spectrograph,

508
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:56.880
took a look at it. Yes, they are in five octaves.

509
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:01.319
What that means is they have one more fold in

510
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.279
their vocal cords than we do. We have two, they

511
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:07.079
have three, and so they have a higher and lower

512
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:09.200
range of sounds they can make.

513
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.240
Okay, And I was talking to the college.

514
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:15.359
So when I was talking to the college professor about this,

515
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.440
he goes, in humans, some people are still born with

516
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.160
those but typically we lost them over the years when

517
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.319
we started becoming civilized and didn't need to make those

518
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.759
sounds anymore. So humans did at one time have the

519
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:34.160
three vocal folds, so we have lost them.

520
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:35.759
Because we don't need them anymore.

521
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.440
We don't need our appendix anymore over the years, when

522
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:43.319
we started to become civilized and started doing agriculture and

523
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.599
not you know, hunting and gathering anymore.

524
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:51.839
I wonder if this almost explains how sometimes you have

525
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.079
witnesses that say it sounded like it was this and

526
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:56.720
this at the same time.

527
00:30:58.119 --> 00:30:58.680
Exactly.

528
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:05.160
Oh man, this is blowing my mind. This is awesome, dude.

529
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.880
Wow wow. I can't remember where, but I have heard

530
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:18.480
someone else mentioned the double fold. You said double fold

531
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:23.319
in the vocal cords, right, Yeah, they have threefold three three,

532
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:27.160
so trifold. Wow, that's wild man. I'm gonna be thinking

533
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:28.039
about that for a while.

534
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:31.039
So that just add to that a little bit. That's

535
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:32.839
why I don't go in the woods and whoop at night,

536
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:37.359
because they know we're they know we're human. We can't

537
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.039
reach the octaves they do. They're like, oh that's a person.

538
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.640
Oh that's even crazier, dude. So yeah, like what so

539
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:49.640
using that theory when we do whoops, we are it's

540
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:55.440
even more of a giveaway than using thods probably very similar.

541
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:56.400
Yeah we're here.

542
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:57.599
Oh that's crazy.

543
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.519
Unless you're playing in actual cording of a bigfoot, then

544
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:02.920
you can away with it.

545
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:04.960
That's it. Yep.

546
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:11.240
So how does how do the reports of infrasound play

547
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:12.279
into this theory?

548
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:12.519
Then?

549
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:18.880
I think they do have infrasound because they have the

550
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:21.079
ability to do it. I mean, they're not the only

551
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.400
creatures on the planet that does that elephants, lions, tigers,

552
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:29.119
there's a whole plethora of animals that have this ability.

553
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.160
They use it.

554
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.440
As a I don't know allow us to put it

555
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.240
as a weapon, because the reason tigers can do it

556
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.920
or use it is that if you can growl so

557
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:45.440
low that what you're growling at can't hear it, but

558
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:48.920
they feel it they can. It actually shakes them to

559
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.079
the core. You can put an animal into fight or

560
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:57.640
flight and or shock. So if you put something into

561
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.319
a shock, it's not it's going to be stuck for

562
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:05.440
a moment. That gives me time to grab it. That's

563
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:07.839
why tigers do it. It'll put their prey in kind

564
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:09.559
of a shock mount where it just stands there and

565
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:12.960
doesn't know what to do, and that gives the tiger

566
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:16.599
more time and ability to jump on it. It may

567
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.839
be a leftover just hunting tactic that they use.

568
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.079
Have you ever experienced that yourself?

569
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:28.440
Me personally, No, not that I can recall. No, I

570
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:29.680
don't know. If I've.

571
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:34.319
Felt kind of eerie times in the woods, that could

572
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:38.240
possibly be it. But I can't clear that because I

573
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:41.680
just recently got a recorder that it records infrasound, so

574
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:44.559
we can see if I start feeling weird in the woods,

575
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.240
I can record it and see it. Yeah, is there

576
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:50.599
infrasound happening now? But personally no, I can't say I

577
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:52.440
have had an instance that did that.

578
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:52.799
Now.

579
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:55.960
I've had screams at night that are so loud and

580
00:33:56.079 --> 00:34:00.319
terrifying that it made the kyotes shut up, so that's

581
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:03.240
a different thing. But no, I haven't had the infrasound

582
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:04.680
that I can recall.

583
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.680
What's that in the Blue Mountains that you experienced that?

584
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:10.000
Absolutely?

585
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:15.679
Okay, Wow, I've experienced that out in Lane County near Oakridge,

586
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.280
where it was like a scream slash roar thing. It

587
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:25.079
really freaked me out. Dude. Yeah, that's weird. I'd love

588
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.039
to hear it again though, but it was freaky as

589
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.159
I'll get out three o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, that

590
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:36.679
area is weird. So walk me through. When you are

591
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:41.480
driving around the US and your RV with your wife

592
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:46.039
for Squatch America, what is your mission when you're I'm

593
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:49.320
assuming you're going probably to different towns maybe you have

594
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.079
You're going to different hotspots, so I guess I really

595
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:53.480
don't know, but yeah.

596
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.199
We tend to go to where there's like different hotspots

597
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:58.639
across the United States. But the thing about what we

598
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:03.159
do is a little bit different. My truck has our

599
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.760
logo all over side of it and it says Bigfoot

600
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:09.440
Research Team, and it's really audacious and stands out. And

601
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:12.599
there's a reason I do that is because we can't

602
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.079
stop at a gas station without getting a Bigfoot report

603
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:18.400
from somebody is at the gas station gasing up, or

604
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:20.039
go to the grocery store. We'll come out of the

605
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.159
grocery store there'll be two people standing next to our

606
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.920
truck ready to tell us their big Foot stories. So

607
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.039
that's what we use when we go into different areas.

608
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:33.199
We belong to this like campground system thing that we

609
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:35.559
bought into. It's called one thousand Trails and they have

610
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.280
two hundred campgrounds across the United States.

611
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:39.880
So we can stay three weeks at a time at

612
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:41.360
each one of these and that's what we do.

613
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:46.159
We go park the trailer, spend the first week getting

614
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.159
Bigfoot reports from people around the area, and then we

615
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.320
spend the next couple of weeks. Our truck also has

616
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:56.039
a tent on the top. It's an overlander, so we

617
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:58.880
will leave the camp. We'll leave the trailer and the campground,

618
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:00.880
and then we'll just go off into the woods and

619
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:03.559
spend two or three days at a time following up

620
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:05.000
on the reports we get in the area.

621
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:11.920
That's awesome. What is the craziest. Let's say you're just

622
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.639
driving to an area and you just all of a sudden,

623
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:18.000
you find yourself in the middle of this like Bigfoot mystery.

624
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:20.280
There's tons of reports and you're like, wow, things are

625
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.119
just clicking. Have you ever experienced anything like that in

626
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:24.920
a certain area.

627
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:30.360
Oh yeah, yeah, we've run across in a couple different times.

628
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.679
Crazy enough, it's where we're out right now. We tend

629
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.679
to follow up on Bigfoot reports in Texas in the

630
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:43.039
winter time because it's nice here. Seventy two today. Growing

631
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.280
up in eastern Oregon, I'm done with winter. But so

632
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:49.480
we had that happened to us down here. We stopped

633
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.960
this little area outside of a place called Whitney, Texas,

634
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:57.880
and I wouldn't I didn't think that would be There

635
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.800
was some Bigfoot reports, like on the Bigfoot Mapping Project

636
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:06.119
and BBFRO site in that area. But when we got there,

637
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.360
oh my gosh, as soon as the community knew we

638
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:11.719
were there, I meant the guy from the newspaper called

639
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.119
US asked us to come down to a story they

640
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:18.199
posted in a newspaper. We got tons of report from

641
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:22.639
this one area, and so they we went to this

642
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.960
campground there there's a bleep or not. It's kind of weird.

643
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:29.440
Texas doesn't have a lot of national forces. Everything here

644
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.599
is like almost private. But we did happen to find

645
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:34.800
a guy who said, yeah, come camp on my land.

646
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.159
I've got to see big Foot all the time. And

647
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.519
so I went and camped on this guy's ranch. But

648
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:44.039
it's thousands of acres and lo and behold, we found

649
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.199
footprints down by the creek. It's kind of weird. So

650
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:48.920
that was one that really stood out. And another one

651
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.320
is close if you're in the cascades there. There's another

652
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:59.239
time we went camping near Crater Lake and we had

653
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.719
fire cruise stopped when they saw the truck stop. Hey,

654
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:06.719
we heard this last night. We had another guy saying, oh, yeah,

655
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.719
I hear them Ember night. Go up this road, which

656
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.000
led us into something we've been actively doing for four

657
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.840
years now. I try to spend part of my summer

658
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:20.400
up there. Is that we found a spot. Now, this one,

659
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:23.840
I'm not going to give you quite details but if

660
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.239
you know where Diamond Lake is, it's in that area.

661
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:29.760
There's a road. I'll even give you the road. It's

662
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.039
called Oh my gosh, it just went out of my head.

663
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:39.079
Oh my gosh. Anyway, maybe I'm not supposed to tell

664
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:45.039
you that, but there you Yeah, when to go past,

665
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:50.960
that's what it's called. When pass, Yeah, I believe it

666
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:51.280
or not.

667
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.320
Yeah. So in this.

668
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:58.239
Area four years ago after everybody's talking about this, so

669
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.559
we found this little pond. I'm not going to tell

670
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:01.880
you where this is a but we hiked up to

671
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.039
the zafon and the only way into is hiking, and

672
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:09.880
we found three sets of footprints. We found thirteen inch prints,

673
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:16.400
nine inch prints and six inch prints. And it's something

674
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:19.320
I'm really going to when I do when I speak

675
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:20.920
at a lot of big foot vestils, and it's one

676
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.840
of the things we talk about vessels. But so that

677
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:27.239
was four years ago and we go back to the

678
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:31.119
same area every year. We found tree structures. We've had

679
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.519
a long distance sighting of one up on top of

680
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:38.000
the mountain. We since then have found twenty one inch print.

681
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:42.639
So we've got mom, dad and two kids, and we

682
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.079
found our little guy again. Last year we found his

683
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:50.039
footprints near a different pond up there, and he's went

684
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.880
from his six inch prints two ten inch prints in

685
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:57.000
four years. And we've been doing some also, some off

686
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.039
the cuff things. We've been putting out puzzles in the

687
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:03.559
woods for them, little stacked rocks like in a pyramid,

688
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:08.039
or we'll actually use those those kids toys with the

689
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.719
little round doughnutlook things and you stack them up on

690
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:13.960
the stick and they form a pyramid. We put those

691
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:16.480
in the woods. That's actually a cognitive test, by the way.

692
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.679
So we've been putting those out in the woods and

693
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.400
sacking the rocks up and they have been playing with them.

694
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.880
They've been re arranging them in a way that it's

695
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:29.360
intelligentally done. It's not just you're knocking it over whatever.

696
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:32.960
So after we did that for a couple of years

697
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:35.719
and we went back into that area, we started finding

698
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:40.639
rocks put on logs for us and arranged five hundred

699
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:42.679
pound rocks that we couldn't rearrange.

700
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:48.079
So I don't know if they're playing with we're teaching them.

701
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:50.960
I don't know what's going on with that, but that's

702
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.679
an area that we've been It's been a hot spot

703
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:56.480
for us for four years now and it's one of

704
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:58.119
our major research.

705
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:03.280
Areas scott Oddly, so this show gets some weird electrical

706
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:09.360
stuff and sometimes the voice modulation it almost sounds and

707
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.840
right when you start talking about moving huge rocks and stuff,

708
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:17.599
it's every time I'm like, I don't even I don't

709
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:19.719
know if this is the government or it's Bigfoot messing

710
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:25.360
with my stuff. Oh it's wild, but that's not surprising

711
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:28.039
at all. I take a lot of reports from north

712
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:32.679
to fifty eight in that area, like going west over

713
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:36.360
to Oakridge and Dexter, and that whole area is just bonkers.

714
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:40.239
The word windigo in Native American terms is a bad

715
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:41.639
thing that's not a good thing.

716
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:42.719
That's pretty interesting.

717
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:46.760
It's interesting that I've interviewed like seventy five tribes and

718
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:49.280
I got the names for these things. And it's weird

719
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:51.960
that half the tribes is almost a fifty to fifty split.

720
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:56.079
Half the tribes call them like benevolent brother, Harryman the

721
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:58.920
other people stuff like that, but the other half call

722
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.800
them like wind to go or monsters, killers, cannibals. So

723
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:06.360
I think there's there's good Bigfoot and there's bad Bigfoot.

724
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:08.599
Like they're good people and there's bad people.

725
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:13.360
Have you found tribes where they call them both or

726
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.719
it seems to be a one or the other type thing.

727
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:19.199
It seems to be a one or the other type thing.

728
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:23.559
And it's primarily the southern tribes are the ones that

729
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:27.159
have the bad words for them. Oh, the one like

730
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:33.280
in New Mexico and in Texas. Here in Louisiana and

731
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:37.400
down in Florida, their names for them tend to be.

732
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.679
I'm wonder if the Southern Bigfoot are just meanor I

733
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:40.119
don't know.

734
00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:45.199
Going by the reports that I hear, I don't know.

735
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.880
I feel like it might be a little bit more

736
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:51.920
aggressive down there. But that's a discussion in itself. Do

737
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:58.480
you ever go out in the Midwest, like Iowa, Nebraska

738
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.440
that part of the country at all.

739
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:01.440
Yeah.

740
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:05.800
Actually, there's the Omaha tribe in Nebraska is they have

741
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:10.880
they have a really interesting relationship with the Bigfoot there

742
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:14.920
and in fact, they look look to Bigfoot in that

743
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:16.960
area as almost a shaman.

744
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:20.599
And it's interesting.

745
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:24.960
The tribal elders and like the medicine woman tells stories

746
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:30.400
that they will take whatever plants that are ripening in

747
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:33.679
whatever season, they'll take those and they'll go into the

748
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.199
woods and they'll lay them out on a rock and

749
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.320
then they'll wait a few days, they'll go back and

750
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.320
then something will have removed some of them from the

751
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.039
rock and left someone there and that's the stuff that

752
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:48.039
works good for the medicines they need during that season.

753
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.920
Well, that's that's really interesting. And that's north of Omaha,

754
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:56.199
like where it's referred to as Satanga. Is that the

755
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:56.800
same area?

756
00:43:57.840 --> 00:43:58.039
Yeah?

757
00:43:58.239 --> 00:43:59.960
Absolutely gotcha.

758
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:00.280
Yep.

759
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.239
Have you ever gotten anything directly from Iowa?

760
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:05.239
I haven't.

761
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:09.880
Okay, we haven't spent a lot of time there either, so.

762
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:10.400
We don't have a lot going on. We have a

763
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:13.599
little bit of weird stuff, but not a lot. So

764
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:17.039
that's I can understand why you wouldn't. I have seen

765
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:20.280
in the past where you guys will do bigfoot town halls.

766
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:20.920
Is that right?

767
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.880
Yes, we do and do that as often as we can,

768
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:27.159
where we get into an area and we can hook

769
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:29.239
up with somebody to set up a place and time

770
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.480
and all that stuff. But yeah, we do that quite often,

771
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:34.360
and that's where we're getting a lot of insight and

772
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:36.760
reports from people in the areas that we're going to

773
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:37.039
be in.

774
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:41.920
Can you take a few minutes to talk about what

775
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.840
it takes to set up a Bigfoot town hall or

776
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:47.119
any advice that you have towards that.

777
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:51.960
Actually, it's a lot easier than I had originally thought

778
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.440
it would be. I said, we need you need a

779
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:57.320
little time to advertise it, and we try to set it.

780
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.039
Like said, we can spend three weeks in places, and

781
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.599
so what we try to do is get it set

782
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:06.760
up immediately when we get somewhere, or if we can

783
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:08.760
set it up a month or two ahead to get

784
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:13.519
an idea. But basically we just find places like that

785
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:17.159
have meeting rooms. A lot of times there are bars,

786
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.960
pizza parlors, place like that to have these rooms in

787
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:24.519
the back for meetings and things, and we'll you know,

788
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.840
rent the space or whatever to do that, and then

789
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.079
we'll try to advertise it in the local newspapers, on

790
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:34.599
the local Facebook pages and things like that, let people

791
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.320
know that we're going to be there, and then if

792
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.679
we can, we'll stick up a banner on the building

793
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.400
if they let us saying when it's going to happen.

794
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.639
And we've had crazy results.

795
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:48.440
It's a hit and miss I can say that, but

796
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:51.639
we've had one time we were we set up one

797
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:55.440
in a little town called Cave Junction organ and we

798
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:58.440
were expecting maybe sixty seventy people to show up. We

799
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.880
had two hundred and eighty show up. Its crazy.

800
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:03.320
And then.

801
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:06.920
Yeah, the pizza, butther ran out of pizza that night.

802
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:10.480
They were really thinking us that it's really not a

803
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:12.440
lot to it. And then but the most important thing,

804
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:14.079
and the hard thing to do is once you have

805
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:18.159
the meetings is to get people to document stuff. We'll

806
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:20.679
have a map of the area we'll throw up on

807
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.400
a table up front, and when people tell us their stories,

808
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.000
we ask them if they can come up and market

809
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.440
on the map, which really helps us a lot.

810
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:28.800
And then recording it.

811
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:33.639
We set up a video recorder and some audio recorders

812
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:36.519
so we can get some good audio because I have

813
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:41.159
when I first started doing these, I totally spaced that

814
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:44.320
part and I thought they'll come in, they'll fill out

815
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.320
the sheet for me. They won't, you know, but if

816
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:49.960
I can get them on video, I can remember the

817
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:50.960
stories that way.

818
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:56.920
Okay, So that I think is a really I think that, yeah,

819
00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:01.360
that's a very good piece of advice there, because I

820
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:06.360
found that with when I did a festival in Oakridge

821
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:09.880
in July, it was overwhelming. I talked to people about

822
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:15.480
their encounters for probably twenty four hours in three days.

823
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:18.320
It was nuts. I loved it. But it's you're writing

824
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.000
stuff down on a map. But then if I had

825
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.719
been able to have people record their story, yeah, that

826
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:28.320
would have been very effective. Are these just for your

827
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:30.880
personal archives? I would imagine then.

828
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:31.760
Yeah.

829
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:34.880
We we have a database that we put stuff in

830
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.239
that helps us to track these things. One of the

831
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:40.920
interesting things about the information we get from it, and

832
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.760
one of the things I use it for is if

833
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:46.920
you got I always try to get dates in at

834
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:52.000
least months. That's the important thing because after doing this,

835
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:55.519
we're on our fifth or sixth year doing this full

836
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.360
time is I put a lot of pins and maps,

837
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:01.199
but if you got the dates on the me I've

838
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.880
noticed that, hey, this area is hot in March every

839
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:09.360
three years, this area is hot in June every other year.

840
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:12.119
And that kind of gives me something to go on.

841
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.079
If we're going to go researching area, I want to

842
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:15.639
make sure it's when they're there.

843
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:21.440
That's interesting. You could almost figure out like migration times

844
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:22.000
and stuff.

845
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:28.440
Yep. Wow, yeah, I'm still not sure about the migration thing.

846
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:32.719
I think they they stay within almost like a two

847
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:36.679
hundred mile area. I think they basically rotate crops. They're

848
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:38.760
in like this part of it for one year, and

849
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:40.639
then next year they'll be over here, and then next

850
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:42.840
year they'll be over there, and then they'll come back

851
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:44.039
to this three years later.

852
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:49.920
Do you have any criteria that needs to be met

853
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:54.400
in order for you to focus on a certain area,

854
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.199
spend three weeks there and try to set up a

855
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:00.920
town hall.

856
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:01.719
Yeah.

857
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:03.599
One of them is mostly if it's going to be

858
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:06.559
in an area that there is like past activity. I

859
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:08.679
can look on the BFRO site. I'm not going to

860
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:11.360
go to counties that never had a bigfoot report ever,

861
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:16.320
like down in the deserts in Arizona. There's not a

862
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.960
lot of activity there. So that's the places we don't go.

863
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.960
But I like to go to. Doctor Jeff Meldrim has

864
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.679
a theory that there's three big foot and a twenty

865
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:31.440
square miles of black bear habitat, so I kind of

866
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:33.920
lean on that a little bit. So any areas that

867
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:37.800
have black bearris are generally bigfoot areas the same habitat,

868
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:41.639
So we tend to try to lean towards staying in

869
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:44.199
areas that there are black bears.

870
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:49.360
That makes a ton of sense. Out of the two

871
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.880
hundred and so people that showed up at Cave Junction,

872
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:56.800
how many or what's the percentage would you say of

873
00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:00.480
people there actually had an encounter to report?

874
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.360
Oh gosh, I would say at least half of them,

875
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.760
and probably I would say I would delete about twenty

876
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:11.119
percent of those because some of them are like barely outland.

877
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:14.719
So I look for things that have commonality and bigfoot reports,

878
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.400
like the smell that the hair, the way the face looked.

879
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:20.239
Are there things though that you'll hear in a witness

880
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.079
report that'll make you be like, I like what I'm

881
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:23.800
hearing right now?

882
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.039
Yeah, absolutely, Like I said before, some of the commonalities.

883
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:32.119
But the other ones it's kind of really weird. Is

884
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:35.599
watch their face in their arms there. If they start

885
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:37.880
getting goosebumps and their hair stands up a little bit

886
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.679
and they start a little shaking in their voice, they

887
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:43.760
had seen something that changes their life and it still

888
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.760
affects them today. So those ones I really take a

889
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:48.880
close attention to.

890
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.320
How this is something that I'm trying to work through

891
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:56.960
myself when I talk to people face to face, Like

892
00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.559
you're talking about how do you handle Sometimes when you

893
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:03.119
talk to a witness, they can get back into that

894
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:07.199
emotional state and it can really affect them, and it's like,

895
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.920
how long do I want this person to be back

896
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:13.719
in that state for I've experienced a few and I

897
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:17.039
was really taken back by it. This is way different

898
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.239
than talking to someone over her phone.

899
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.199
Yeah, that's an interesting question, and I'm not really good

900
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:23.880
at it.

901
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:31.920
But luckily my wife is a license psychologist.

902
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:33.000
So well there you go, man.

903
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:41.079
Yeah, and she's really good at forensic interviewing and things

904
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:43.519
like that, so when they start getting really shaky and

905
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:46.719
she takes over for me and she kind of knows

906
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:50.719
the limits. I don't want to put somebody through PTSD

907
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:54.519
from doing this, but it helps to reassure them that

908
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:56.960
you're here for them and that they're safe now and

909
00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:57.719
stuff like that.

910
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:01.239
Scott, it's been such a fascinating in conversation with you.

911
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:04.400
I do have one another question for you here at

912
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.679
the end. Okay, Well, let's say there's an individual and

913
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:09.920
they're like, man, I really want to get out there

914
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:14.679
and have a Bigfoot experience. Do you have things that

915
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.480
you recommend people maybe to lean towards if they're going

916
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:23.199
to go out and try to have and experience themselves or.

917
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:26.840
Yeah one, do your research.

918
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.920
One of the biggest best tools that came out recently

919
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:35.039
is the Bigfoot Mapping Project. It's an app you can download,

920
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:39.719
look on that and find the area that you want

921
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:44.719
to go to has sightings. And secondly, look at the months.

922
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:47.519
I don't care if it happened twenty years ago or

923
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:51.360
last month. Look at the months and that's where you

924
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.320
want to go. And one of the other things that

925
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:57.599
has worked extremely well for us is to go camping.

926
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:01.960
I don't go knock on trees, I go whooping in

927
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:06.280
the woods at night. We just go camping and make

928
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:09.360
a spectacle of yourself. You're not going to hunt down

929
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:11.280
a bigfoot. You're not going to chase it down in

930
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:15.159
the woods. Cameo don't work. But if you get them

931
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.280
curious enough to come see you. If they're curious, they

932
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:23.079
want to check out the funny looking human people. So

933
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:25.639
that's one of the things I do. I just go camping.

934
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:31.360
That's great advice. I just remembered one that I forgot.

935
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:34.119
I apologize this is for the last one. How do

936
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:35.559
you record infra sound?

937
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:38.880
There's actually recorders that will record it really.

938
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:41.239
In fact, there's even an app you can get for

939
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:44.119
your phone an infrasound recorder.

940
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:45.800
The microphones will pick it up.

941
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.320
Your ears won't, but it'll show you on a spectrograph.

942
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:51.400
You can even download the app. It works fine.

943
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:54.360
It'll show you on a spectrograph the infosound that you're

944
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:54.880
not hearing.

945
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:58.960
Okay. So it's easy, is that? Just to start googling

946
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:02.920
on looking on Amazon infrasound recorder, look at that apps

947
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:05.679
and you'll they're out there. Okay, that's cool. That's cool,

948
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:08.960
all right, Scott, Thank you so much for taking some

949
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:11.880
time out of your day to share what you've experienced

950
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.719
over the years and maybe listeners keep an eye out

951
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:18.079
for their truck. You never know when you'll see them.

952
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:20.199
But thank you so much for coming on the show.

953
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.920
Do you mind taking a few minutes reminding listeners how

954
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:24.920
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955
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:26.920
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956
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957
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959
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961
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:44.719
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962
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:46.360
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963
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964
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965
00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:54.679
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966
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967
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968
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969
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:04.800
over here. Scott, thank you so much for coming on

970
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:05.239
the show.

971
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:06.840
All right, thank you, Jeremy.

972
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:10.000
Sean's wanted to come up. Let's talk to Sean.

973
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:13.880
Listen.

974
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:21.239
I was on a patrol as a police officer and

975
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:27.440
it was a rural area and I got to complain

976
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:32.719
that there was some kind of noise in the background

977
00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:42.320
of these people's places. And I get there, shine the

978
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:46.320
light around, didn't see anything.

979
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:51.760
Out of the ordinary. So I decided to take the

980
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:54.840
back road that goes behind that place.

981
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:03.840
And they say, when I've seen it around the corner, it.

982
00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:10.239
Was tall, and for me it looked blackish.

983
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:14.119
But it was I would say it be brown, about

984
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:19.280
eight and a half feet tall, figure crossing the road.

985
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:20.519
Yeah.

986
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:23.679
I never told anyone on this on the forest and everything.

987
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:28.440
They'll think I'm seeing stuff, But this is up in

988
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:29.519
the Poconos.

989
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:31.280
In Pennsylvania.

990
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:33.360
Oh yeah, definitely.

991
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:35.400
Do you ever get on here of a lot of

992
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:36.400
slavings there?

993
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:40.280
Let me look at my map real quick. I do

994
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:47.480
have one individual back in two thousand and two, his

995
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:51.159
mother and mother in law reported seeing what looked like

996
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:53.920
a large, hairy figure in the woods near their home

997
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:55.639
that looked like a big gorilla.

998
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:58.039
It just makes sense not to cut you off, but

999
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:01.519
it was in two thousand one when I was working.

1000
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:06.679
Oh wow, wow, So that happened in two thousand and.

1001
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:10.960
One, yeah, and I would say it was around fall time.

1002
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:16.880
It's so hard perspective when the woods are dark, and

1003
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:19.599
usually when you shine the lights on the green trees,

1004
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.880
it's one thing, but you're signing your lighting on the

1005
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:23.639
brown cheese.

1006
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.559
The forest just looks totally different.

1007
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:32.840
Have you heard of other people having sightings like that

1008
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:34.000
in the same area.

1009
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.920
We had about I think it was about maybe about

1010
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:45.159
five coup points. Really yeah, that people heard this bruckus

1011
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:46.719
in the backyard and everything.

1012
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:47.599
I don't know.

1013
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:52.079
There was one time that trash cans were touched, but

1014
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.679
I never thought to go around again and start looking

1015
00:57:55.679 --> 00:58:01.000
for footprints. Someone said, what was it bear at one

1016
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:05.719
one of our complaints, and there was broken branches in

1017
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:09.679
the backyard, like with the pines hang down, they were

1018
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:13.719
pushed the way out and snapped. Other than that, I

1019
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:14.960
can't recall anything else.

1020
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:16.960
This is this is about in two thousand and one.

1021
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:17.960
I'm talking about.

1022
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:20.320
Oh yeah, it's a long time ago.

1023
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:22.320
Yeah.

1024
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:27.159
So when you guys would get those complaints at the

1025
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:31.719
police station, what would you guys just crush them off?

1026
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:33.280
Or what would you guys usually do?

1027
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:40.199
Would be a report that we put a non reportable okay,

1028
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:43.000
where it's just kept inside the station.

1029
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:46.320
Oh okay.

1030
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:50.280
A reportable stuff would be like a crying to happen

1031
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.880
or a car accident or something like that where you're

1032
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:55.880
reporting something to the state.

1033
00:58:56.519 --> 00:59:00.360
So this is this is all in house ie thing, and.

1034
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:04.159
That we were just because I served from ninety two

1035
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:09.519
to two thousand and two, and in the beginning we

1036
00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:11.320
didn't have computers in.

1037
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:14.760
The cars or anything like that. I remember going on

1038
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:16.519
the computer as a floppy disk.

1039
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:19.960
I figured some of the data has been lost or

1040
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:22.599
I mean never you'd have to dig them out of

1041
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:28.360
the paperwork and everything, and absolutely, and guys wouldn't talk

1042
00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:31.400
about this to each other. One guy did talk about it,

1043
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:35.880
and he saying what the complaint was and everything, but

1044
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:36.960
other than that.

1045
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:41.639
And he did as a joke, but I took my sighting.

1046
00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:47.199
Very seriously to myself, and I really did see something.

1047
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.039
Would you ever want to see what you saw that day?

1048
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:53.840
Again? Oh?

1049
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:54.719
Nice? Definitely?

1050
00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:56.480
Yeah.

1051
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.599
Well I never I was that.

1052
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:00.840
I never asked that question, but oh well, of course

1053
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:05.880
became a believer right at that point in time.

1054
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:14.039
Absolutely, it's good to hear about another thing that happened

1055
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:17.880
in that area around around the same time. People want

1056
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:21.679
to listen to that episode. It's seven fifty five on

1057
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:26.679
my podcast, Bigfoot Society. But Sean, is this a conversation

1058
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:29.800
that I would be able to play on my Bigfoot

1059
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:30.639
podcast that I have?

1060
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:31.480
Yeah?

1061
01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:34.960
Sure, Bud, all right, thank you for coming up, sir.

1062
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.480
I appreciate you sharing what you experienced that day.

1063
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:38.920
Okay, thank you.

1064
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:40.880
Hi there, how's it going?

1065
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:42.159
What's going well?

1066
01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:46.239
How's everything great? Are you coming up to share a

1067
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:47.840
Bigfoot story today?

1068
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:54.519
Yeah? I have, I have several, but nick joined together. Okay, yeah,

1069
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:58.480
I see one one one big experience. So I was

1070
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:02.000
going through this time when I was in my late teens.

1071
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:08.400
I was breaking up with a girlfriend, considering breaking up

1072
01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:13.800
with her because things wasn't working out, and so I

1073
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:18.280
used to pray a lot and take walks in the

1074
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:24.519
National Park that was close to my home. And matter

1075
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:26.639
of fact, I used to take walks with my dog

1076
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:30.519
in the daytime. And one day I went down to

1077
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.360
a certain facility on the other side of the National

1078
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:37.480
Park and got hired with the state with the fits

1079
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.960
working with some type of treatment plant, some type of

1080
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:46.000
federal steam plant or something like that. So I had

1081
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:49.719
that job, and it was a pretty cool job. But

1082
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.920
I still was going through things with contemplating my life

1083
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:56.280
and college and different things. But I still used to

1084
01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:59.199
get up and take walks. I got to the point

1085
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:02.000
where I would walk in early morning. I used to

1086
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:04.519
start walking around six o'clock. It was still daylight, but

1087
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:07.719
it wasn't giving me the feeling I needed. It seemed

1088
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:11.199
like I needed something a lipit more. So I started

1089
01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:13.960
walking a little bit earlier, like I wanted to catch

1090
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.360
the sun. Like on the end of my walk, I

1091
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:19.599
used to walk like forty five minutes through the National Park,

1092
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.119
make a round circle and come back out, go in

1093
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:25.920
two miles or so and come on back out. So

1094
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:31.960
I get up at four for four o'clock, four forty

1095
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:35.000
five sooner. Renner and I used to take walks, and

1096
01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:37.440
I used to sing and pray to God, be saying

1097
01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:39.920
my prayers and stuff like that, and walking and singing.

1098
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:42.719
And I used to have a lot of deer, a

1099
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.280
lot of deer and animals through that place. And I

1100
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:47.079
got to the point where I used to walk through

1101
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:50.320
the park and fog would land. They had a golf

1102
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.440
course on one section of it, where fark would be

1103
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:57.239
on the golf course, and I used to try to

1104
01:02:57.239 --> 01:02:59.960
make that my last little sectional middle section of walking through.

1105
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.639
I will walk through that part and come on back out.

1106
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:05.239
That would take me about twenty five minutes to walk

1107
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.440
on the backside of the golf course. And I used

1108
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:12.239
to walk on that place and deer used to be

1109
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:15.639
standing there. I would walk right through the deer. They wouldn't.

1110
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:18.800
I guess they got used to me walking there in

1111
01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:21.000
the middle of the night, the middle of the night,

1112
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:24.920
four o'clock and they just stand there and I walk

1113
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:27.440
right past them. They just look at me like, Oh, okay,

1114
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:29.719
who is this? What is this day? I guess I

1115
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:32.719
was so at peace with myself because I'm harming, singing

1116
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:36.159
and not loud, just to myself, and I guess make

1117
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:38.280
my own songs up. And I used to hear this

1118
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:42.800
whistle and I thought it was like the male deer

1119
01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:48.119
that was swhistling and the deers are here, They're not

1120
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:51.199
you know what I'm saying. So there used to be

1121
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:53.840
a ridge where you go down. You can come down

1122
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:56.679
off the golf course, the top nine or something like that,

1123
01:03:56.840 --> 01:04:01.000
and you come down and the woods right was right there.

1124
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:05.000
And when I heard this thing, something just went through

1125
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:07.079
the woods real fast, like I said, man, that's the

1126
01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:09.800
biggest deer. I couldn't really see it, but I heard it.

1127
01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:12.199
It was crashing through the trees. But the other deer

1128
01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:15.039
at the plateau up there, they wouldn't move, and I

1129
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:16.880
was like, oh, I don't know what that is. I

1130
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.119
still used to walk through that place, but I started

1131
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:24.440
having these dreams, and the dreams were call inside. When

1132
01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:31.119
I walked through, walked through this place, I see myself

1133
01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:33.400
in a dream walking through the same place, but I

1134
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:36.840
could see what's in the woodline. I couldn't see what's

1135
01:04:37.199 --> 01:04:40.159
in the woodline because I'm in an open plateau the

1136
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:44.920
golf course, and I see these it's almost like human lions.

1137
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:48.039
They were like a pride, and they used to just

1138
01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:50.360
stand there and look at me. It was like they

1139
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:53.039
were like someone would lounge like sideways like a man

1140
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:55.679
like you lay on the ground a picnic, and they

1141
01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:58.599
would just sit there and lay there, and some would

1142
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:01.079
stand up. And every time I might walk through these places,

1143
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:04.000
I would have these streams again, start having these streams.

1144
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:08.480
And there came a time when I went through that

1145
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:12.760
one night and right on the other side they had

1146
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:17.599
a train track that was that would run through that place,

1147
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:20.519
some kind of way queens around to come back to

1148
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:23.519
those companies on the other side of the National Park

1149
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:28.480
over there, the Federal steam plant and water treatment whatever.

1150
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:32.119
So these train used to deliver all types of chemicals

1151
01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:34.280
and stuff like that. The black what they call it

1152
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:36.840
black gold. There's some type of attitude that you add

1153
01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:40.280
to the water to make wastewater clean, and some type

1154
01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:43.039
of coal that they used to produce with the black.

1155
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:45.280
The coal used to be grinded up to make the

1156
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:47.840
black goal. The black which called that goes in the

1157
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:53.079
potassium that goes into the wastewater treatment. So one particular night,

1158
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:55.280
as I was combing through there, I came over the

1159
01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:58.679
plateau and looking down I could see on the other

1160
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:04.119
side of track. Train had stopped and six guys was

1161
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:07.880
out and they had their flashlight. I'm walking over here.

1162
01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:09.880
They couldn't see me because I'm still in the dark.

1163
01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:14.559
But this huge animal they hit, the train had hit

1164
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:17.559
it and it was laying out there, and it didn't

1165
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:19.840
looked like a bear, because I was like, oh man,

1166
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.559
the train hit the bear. But the area of where

1167
01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:25.039
I was working, where I was walking, didn't have bears,

1168
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:27.760
didn't have any even though some old man say, hey man,

1169
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.679
they got bears out here. Be When I got that job,

1170
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:33.159
which called I used to walk to work, even though

1171
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.760
I had two cars. I used to meditate and kind

1172
01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:37.159
of walk to work and get up at the be

1173
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:40.119
at work at seven and leave at six and take

1174
01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:42.039
me about forty minutes to walk through on the other

1175
01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:45.679
side shortcut, not through the hole the National Park, just

1176
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:48.199
a section of it. And they seen me out there

1177
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:50.639
walking and to scared everybody, guys who are driving through

1178
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:53.119
it's no lights. After they see me walking on here

1179
01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:55.800
at Matthew here, man, what man the heck you doing

1180
01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:58.280
out here? They'll try to give me a ride. I said, no, man,

1181
01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:01.559
I'm just meditating, just walking through there. Like, man, you

1182
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:03.239
picked a heck of a place to walk. I said, well,

1183
01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:04.920
they're right over here on this side. They said, you

1184
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:07.599
got I said, I got two cars, got bike. Most

1185
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:10.519
like anybody, I just like to meditate and walk. So

1186
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:13.559
they said, tell me when I go to work, digressing,

1187
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:15.559
go to work. The old man used to see me.

1188
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:18.079
He said, Man, I've been out here thirty thirty two

1189
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:21.559
years working at this place. Man, he said, I came in.

1190
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:25.039
I came in one of the mechanic shops. And he

1191
01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:26.880
looked at me, and he said, I came in with

1192
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:29.320
some new young men and were all young. We about nineteen,

1193
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:31.440
some a little bit older than me. We come in

1194
01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:33.920
by four of us, trying to get some parts put

1195
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:36.760
on a certain tractor or something like that. He said,

1196
01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:40.000
hey you. I said, hey, how you doing, sir. He's

1197
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:42.760
like Matthews, he said he Matthew. I said, Yeah'm Matthews.

1198
01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.960
He said, this guy's walking through the park in the

1199
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:46.800
middle of the bike.

1200
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:47.519
Man.

1201
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:50.559
You scared everybody. We're in cars and you walking like

1202
01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:54.000
you have no time of your life. And I just

1203
01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.280
said no, I just be meditating. Man, thinking about a

1204
01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:58.000
lot of stuff. He said, he must be breaking up

1205
01:07:58.000 --> 01:07:59.639
with a girl. I was like, oh, okay, that was

1206
01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:03.480
part of yeah, I said. He said, yeah, we know

1207
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:05.639
people do strange things when they go on through the

1208
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:08.960
love thing. I said yeah. And so he said, hey man,

1209
01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:11.280
you gotta be careful here. Manly were down on the south,

1210
01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:14.000
but hey man, there's things out here that I can't

1211
01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:17.159
really say. There's wolves, and I think there's bearers because

1212
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:20.520
they look like bears, you know, Like he said, have

1213
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:22.600
you say anything, I said, I hear stuff when I walk.

1214
01:08:23.399 --> 01:08:26.920
He says, no lights out there on three miles or that.

1215
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:30.319
That's that place that you're walking's no street lights, pitch black,

1216
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:32.920
not a light. The first your next light is when

1217
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:35.359
you get on the other side. I said no. I said,

1218
01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:37.920
that's the best part because I get required and I

1219
01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:40.239
can do my little meditation. I don't tell them all that,

1220
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:41.560
but I just told him. I said, yeah, I was

1221
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:44.399
real teaceful right there. So he said, you'd be careful

1222
01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:47.880
now because you know some things are here that if

1223
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:52.239
you know, if Jesus, he tried to warn me. So,

1224
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:56.319
come to find out, going back to the railroad track,

1225
01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:59.039
I'm looking at this thing from the plateau. I'm on

1226
01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.520
top of the plateau. There looking down at these truck

1227
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:06.720
six guys with these flashlights, and this thing is stretched out,

1228
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:09.640
not like a bear. It's not around, it's it's longated,

1229
01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:12.039
you know what I'm saying. It's pretty long, and it's

1230
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:14.760
long long's it's not like it's not the shape of

1231
01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:17.079
a man. It's a little longer, maybe about eight feet long.

1232
01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:19.680
And I'm looking at it and I say, well, I

1233
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:21.119
don't want them to see me over here, because I

1234
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:24.319
don't supposed to be any's it's part of the section

1235
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:26.720
of the park. When the thing is closed, they got

1236
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:28.479
to look. They have a little gate that closed, but

1237
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:31.439
there's just two little rails that they just put together.

1238
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:35.680
Walkers or those who walk the trails, they know people

1239
01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:39.079
are walking trails through there sometimes, so they sometimes they're

1240
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:40.640
just look her that you can just walk under it

1241
01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:43.399
and walk over walking around because they're not blocking anything.

1242
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:45.560
They don't have fences around. Just got it right on

1243
01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:47.159
the road where you're gonna drive your car. A lot

1244
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:49.720
of people leave the car outside there that particular area,

1245
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:53.000
going by the golf course. So they have these dreams

1246
01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:58.880
about these things, and all of a sudden, my nature changed.

1247
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:03.359
And this it's strange because it's up until this day.

1248
01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:08.399
My nature changed and a lot of times I couldn't

1249
01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:13.159
figure out why I used to walk my dog. I

1250
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:15.680
had a German shepherd and I had a lap that

1251
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:17.960
I used to walk sometimes. And when I sometime I

1252
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:19.760
take my walk, I walk by myself. I don't walk

1253
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:22.680
with the dogs because they distract me. But when I

1254
01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:25.239
used to walk the dogs in the neighborhood, go through

1255
01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:27.640
the neighborhood, all of a sudden, all the dogs would

1256
01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:33.479
jump the fence, all of them and follow me. I

1257
01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:35.520
would just take maybe a twenty minute walk, and I

1258
01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:39.000
have eight dogs that jump the fence and get behind

1259
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:41.920
me and just start following me. And I was like

1260
01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:43.600
everybody was looking at me, like, hey man, are you

1261
01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:47.079
letting these people dogs out the gate? I said, no,

1262
01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:49.720
I'm just walking. I get to know them all sometime,

1263
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:51.760
I get to know their owners. But they'll see me walking.

1264
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:53.439
Then they decided to take a walk with me. It

1265
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:56.000
got worse. It was worse than that. So I used

1266
01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:59.560
to take walks, and and all of a sudden, some

1267
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:03.039
more dogs, some stray dogs, came out the woods and

1268
01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:06.319
would walk with me. And one particular dog was so

1269
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.359
jet black and had his coarse hair. I rubbed them.

1270
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:11.239
I'm like, man, why are you fur fielled? I don't

1271
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:13.760
feel like a dog's fair. But he had these yellow

1272
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:17.119
eyes and he decided to walk home with me too,

1273
01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:19.560
with my dogs. So this particular dog came to walk

1274
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:22.359
home with me. So he was even four grown. You

1275
01:11:22.479 --> 01:11:25.319
made by a year old pretty jet black dog with

1276
01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:28.560
these yellow eyes. And so I bring them home. My

1277
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:31.520
dogs are in the yard. My dogs are scared for

1278
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:35.680
some reason, and my dogs are very aggressive. And my

1279
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:39.119
two dogs don't like each other at all, so they

1280
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:42.680
like walking together their friends, but they like the ravels,

1281
01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:45.000
so in the yard they never sit by each other.

1282
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.399
So I left him out in the yard. It's nice,

1283
01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:50.319
warm weather down south. So these two guys that I

1284
01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:53.199
look in the backyard, they are hugged up to each other,

1285
01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:59.720
hugged up. And so this particular dog is at my door.

1286
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:02.399
My sister is cooking like fried chicken and something like

1287
01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:04.439
that at the door, and she left a glass glass

1288
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:07.640
screen door, and this dog is looking through the door

1289
01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:11.079
and his eyes are blowing. This is a wolf, she said.

1290
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:14.359
Then my fiancee at the time said, hey, man, why

1291
01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:17.439
you bring a wolf home? You got a wolf? Following

1292
01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:21.760
you I like a wolf. They said, yeah, that's a wolf.

1293
01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:24.920
I didn't really notice. My mind be somewhere else. And

1294
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:27.680
I'm looking at the thing and the thing eyes is

1295
01:12:27.680 --> 01:12:30.239
glowing with the light. My dog's eyes don't blow with

1296
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.399
the light. So oh say, they said, man, you gotta

1297
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:33.960
get this dog out of here. Your dogs are scared.

1298
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:36.039
Look at your dogs. It's scared, the big dogs. It's

1299
01:12:36.079 --> 01:12:38.319
got of this thing like Okay, I don't know what

1300
01:12:38.359 --> 01:12:40.520
that is. So I said, give me someone that give

1301
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.159
me that chicken and something like that. I'm gonna take

1302
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:43.680
him on back up the street and take them back

1303
01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:45.640
to the woods where he came out of. So I

1304
01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:48.600
walked the dog one back up there, and I started

1305
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.520
having those experience all the time. Animals would come out

1306
01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:54.039
and just let's come from me just walking through the

1307
01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:56.279
woods at night. And I don't know what I encountered

1308
01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:00.000
or whatever pass I got. I got some kind of pass.

1309
01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:01.760
That's because I've seen a few of those things. They

1310
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:04.479
were they'd be huge. But I put it off because

1311
01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:07.239
I said, nothing like that exists, you know what I'm saying.

1312
01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:09.720
I just my mind wasn't known that I would just

1313
01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:12.920
see something sometimes go through the woods and I fell

1314
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:15.920
asleep one night at the park and I woke up

1315
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:18.840
because it's worn. It was a couple of things around

1316
01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:21.119
me because I was really going to a bad time,

1317
01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:23.880
and they was like they were over there. I was

1318
01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:26.479
on the picnic table, just laying down because I was

1319
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:29.119
crying about young man. Sometimes cried I got to break

1320
01:13:29.159 --> 01:13:31.079
up with this girl. I fell asleep and when I

1321
01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:33.560
woke up, it was maybe eleven o'clock at night. Fell

1322
01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:37.640
asleep except about eight. The park had closed around eight thirty,

1323
01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:40.159
and I woke up as eleven jet black. I was

1324
01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:44.359
hearing these sounds, almost like voices going through the garbage,

1325
01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:46.800
because they had these garbage bands where people coming picnic.

1326
01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:49.439
I'm thinking of raccoons. I ain't paying no attention. My

1327
01:13:49.439 --> 01:13:53.359
mind is some other things, so making gibberish sounds right.

1328
01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:55.920
I was like, oh man, these raccoons. Let me get

1329
01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:57.600
up and get out of here. What time is it.

1330
01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:00.840
I couldn't see my watch where my little whatever I

1331
01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:03.560
had book I was reading, and so I just walked

1332
01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:05.560
on back up the hill. But I could have sworn

1333
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:08.680
it was something around me on the table. I guess

1334
01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:11.840
I was so sad at the time. My sadness, wouldn't

1335
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:13.800
let me see what was around me. You know what

1336
01:14:13.800 --> 01:14:17.079
I'm saying. But I noticed that animals when I would

1337
01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:19.600
walk just straight, animal even wild animals, would just come

1338
01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:22.239
and follow me, get right beside me. Is rack home from?

1339
01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:25.800
Where does cawod he come from? And they'll walk with me,

1340
01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:29.560
like like my dog. So I just say okay. To

1341
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:31.960
this day I moved up north, I still have that

1342
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:36.039
experience that animals would come and walk with me. So

1343
01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:42.119
this one particular time I was going to a baseball game.

1344
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:43.920
Me and my wife. We rode our bikes up to

1345
01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:47.560
the neighborhood, up the street and we got to this

1346
01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:51.000
baseball park and it was packed in the neighborhood baseball

1347
01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:53.399
and we got off our backs as we were walking

1348
01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:57.399
to the bleachers to sit down like in the middle

1349
01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:00.279
of everybody, closer to the ground. We didn't go up high.

1350
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:03.399
We sat down. But we walked past this female duck

1351
01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:07.000
and this duck was like quacking. So we walked past

1352
01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:11.079
her and I walked on in and about twenty up

1353
01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:15.159
fifteen minutes later, this duck calming, came in into the park,

1354
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:18.119
the baseball park. But you know where the bleaches are,

1355
01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:24.960
and came up to me, just quacking quacking. I was like,

1356
01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:28.439
and the people said, do you understand what's going on

1357
01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:30.960
with this duck? I said, yeah, she's looking for her babies.

1358
01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:35.000
And I said, mama, and she was like, quacking, Wow

1359
01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:36.520
is talking to me?

1360
01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:36.680
Like?

1361
01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:39.039
She just got in my face to me and my

1362
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:41.479
wife Fay, and everybody says, look at Okay, do you

1363
01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:44.960
understand what she's saying? I said, yeah, her babies are gone.

1364
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:46.720
She had her babies around here and she flew off

1365
01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:49.560
or something scared her. So she want us to go

1366
01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:52.680
and help find her babies. So I said, okay, gone

1367
01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:55.199
lead the way, mama. And so when I said that,

1368
01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:57.279
I got up, my wife got up, and three more

1369
01:15:57.279 --> 01:16:00.720
people got up and they walked with us, and I said,

1370
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:02.520
where it was the last place you had? So she

1371
01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:05.199
walked over there, she walked out the park. There's five

1372
01:16:05.239 --> 01:16:08.880
of us walking with this duck and she walking. So

1373
01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:11.439
make a long story short of the ducks that went

1374
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:13.119
under something and we had to go on in there

1375
01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:16.039
and get them. But then we walked back. They said,

1376
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:19.319
how do you understand duck? I said, I don't understand.

1377
01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:21.960
Why did that duck come through the park and walk

1378
01:16:22.079 --> 01:16:25.960
past a hundred people and stopped at you. I said,

1379
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.840
I don't know. I just I don't know. I did

1380
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:31.880
experience when I came to Minnesota, I didn't run into

1381
01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:35.359
another creature. When I was getting off work, the snow

1382
01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:38.600
was like maybe that that particular like his snow so bad.

1383
01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:42.560
And as I was driving down the road, it was

1384
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:44.399
like the snow was so deep that you can't walk.

1385
01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:46.399
So when they have those, when they have those blizzards

1386
01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:50.039
up here, the sidewalks be four feet with snow, and

1387
01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:53.640
highways be worse than that because the snowplows would throw

1388
01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:58.199
snow on the side of each street. So this particular night,

1389
01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:01.039
I was getting off one o'clock worked that engineering place

1390
01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:06.479
building searchical beds and searchical robots. Got a job working

1391
01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:10.239
up the building that so I'm looking and this thing

1392
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:12.800
comes across the street. But the snow is already five

1393
01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:15.760
feet deep and it would be too deep for a

1394
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:18.439
dog or something like that. This big, this big animal,

1395
01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:21.840
as I was on the ramp, came across the ramp

1396
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:26.199
and he was diving like because the snow was so deep,

1397
01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:29.000
he had to dive. He had to put his whole stretch,

1398
01:17:29.079 --> 01:17:33.520
his whole body out whom he did three stretches and

1399
01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:38.960
he was across three snow piles. And this thing was

1400
01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:39.680
so huge.

1401
01:17:39.720 --> 01:17:39.920
Man.

1402
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:42.279
I was telling him selling my co worker, I said,

1403
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:44.520
y'all didn't see that. We always leaving at the same time.

1404
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:46.960
Y'all don't see that big creature a crossing the road

1405
01:17:47.079 --> 01:17:49.760
like that. They're like, oh, now, they said, nothing can't

1406
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:51.520
be walking out here. Man. He said, snow. The snow

1407
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:53.800
is two five feet deep. And then he said the

1408
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:55.960
snow plows pile snow up on the road on the

1409
01:17:55.960 --> 01:17:58.319
side of the road up to seven feet. I said, yeah,

1410
01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:02.159
I know this thing was and he dove about four times.

1411
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:04.840
He was on the other side of the highway and

1412
01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:07.399
it was another little national park on that side up

1413
01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:11.279
here in Minnesota. I have plain of experience, and in

1414
01:18:11.319 --> 01:18:14.319
particular time that I was down there, someone was telling

1415
01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:17.439
me about, yeah, Bigfoot had got hit by a truck

1416
01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:20.359
attracted trailer truck because he used to lay out there

1417
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:22.439
in the road, and all the truck drivers used to

1418
01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:25.159
talk about it. And some of the drivers, people that

1419
01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:26.840
I know, used to say, hey, y'all see that bear

1420
01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:29.880
out there on the road. I said, no, they said it,

1421
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:33.319
And the story has it that it used to come

1422
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:34.920
out and lay on the road because the road was

1423
01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:37.680
cool at night. I guess it was a particular animals

1424
01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:40.359
that was sick or something like in the road used

1425
01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:43.319
to be cool and this animal was coming just lay

1426
01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:46.800
out there on the cool of the warmth of the road.

1427
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:49.359
I don't know if if if the weather was damp,

1428
01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:52.159
the woods were damp. Sometimes it's damp, and he had

1429
01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:55.159
lay out there on that drag ground or wherever. And

1430
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.720
they said one of the truckers hit the thing. And

1431
01:18:58.479 --> 01:18:59.880
when they hit the thing, that was the same time

1432
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:01.680
when I was down there and I just crossed over,

1433
01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:04.079
and so it might have been the time that because

1434
01:19:04.079 --> 01:19:07.119
they said this particular bigfoot they got hit. The truck

1435
01:19:07.199 --> 01:19:10.039
driver stopped because he thought he hit a person, and

1436
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:12.239
he jumped out his truck and went down to look

1437
01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:14.159
at it, and we went down to look at it.

1438
01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:16.960
He said that the thing was laying on the side

1439
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:18.600
or something like that. He got close to it and

1440
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:21.800
realized it wasn't a person and he can't hit to

1441
01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:23.880
come down the hill off the street, they got bluffs.

1442
01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:26.119
They got bluffs down there where I was. At bluffs,

1443
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:28.279
you would park the truck up, come down the bluff

1444
01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:30.920
and then he seen the thing down there in the

1445
01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:33.319
saw grass as he was looking at it with the

1446
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:35.680
flesh like, butdy you okay, and then realized it wasn't

1447
01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:38.680
a person, and all of a sudden another one came out,

1448
01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:41.840
which was huge and scared him off, and he saw it.

1449
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:43.760
He said, this thing was almost twelve feet tall, and

1450
01:19:44.079 --> 01:19:45.880
he said, I picked it up. He said, the thing

1451
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:48.359
picked it up and ran off, yelled at him and

1452
01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:51.079
picked up the one that was hit and ran off

1453
01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:53.680
toward the golf course. So I guess that might've been

1454
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:55.760
the one I saw because the train, the trains go

1455
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:58.319
so slow, there's no way in the world the train

1456
01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:02.840
would have hit that get that particular bigfoot. And I

1457
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:04.960
just said, those trains going to go like five ten

1458
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:07.399
miles per hour coming through here. So I said, what

1459
01:20:07.479 --> 01:20:09.399
is that thing laying on the side of the golf

1460
01:20:09.399 --> 01:20:12.960
course for it? So I calculated my time. I realized

1461
01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:15.199
that was the same time that they said that one

1462
01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:18.199
got you know, was hit by a truck. So I

1463
01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:20.399
don't know they laid it out there trying to get

1464
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:22.239
it help. I don't know if the thing needed they

1465
01:20:22.359 --> 01:20:24.520
wanted humans to help it or something like that and

1466
01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:26.359
laid it out there where trained to see it or

1467
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:29.239
something like that. So I calculated the time. I said, oh, okay,

1468
01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:30.960
that's the same time. And I used to walk through

1469
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:32.920
the National Park and they was telling me not to

1470
01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:35.279
walk through there. Yeah, so I got a strange it's

1471
01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:38.399
strange story. There's an Indian reservation over there and some

1472
01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:40.800
of everything out there, and so to this day, I

1473
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:43.159
used to sit out there and hear strange noises, but

1474
01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:46.760
I never equated to anything because I didn't believe in bigfoot,

1475
01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:49.359
so I didn't believe in sasquatch. When you just have

1476
01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:52.680
your antenna's up and to be aware of what's around you.

1477
01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:55.399
And that's the only place I used to see there.

1478
01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:58.159
Believe it or not, I don't tell nobody about it

1479
01:20:58.159 --> 01:21:00.359
because they said it's rare, very rare. I used to

1480
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:04.680
see the ivory built woodpepper because I just sit on

1481
01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:07.640
those pitches. I used to sit there. There was cedars

1482
01:21:07.680 --> 01:21:10.199
out there, and that those pines out there. I used

1483
01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:11.600
to see them all the time, and I thought they

1484
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:17.600
were reciprocated woodpecker because they look alike until they fly off.

1485
01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:19.159
One used to fly off and you can see the

1486
01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:23.279
whites on his back and they're down there. I didn't

1487
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:25.199
tell nobody about it because they said, we're looking for

1488
01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:29.079
that that woodpecker, and I said, okay, that's in such

1489
01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:31.920
a secluded area. No wonder they can't find. That thing

1490
01:21:31.960 --> 01:21:35.199
is up on a plateau and those if it is

1491
01:21:35.319 --> 01:21:37.159
any I said, see them come on, laying right on

1492
01:21:37.199 --> 01:21:40.239
the trees and peck with that beat. But they were like,

1493
01:21:40.359 --> 01:21:43.239
rebuild a white beak and everything, and then when they fly,

1494
01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:46.039
it looks strange from the back because it's almost like

1495
01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:48.560
an insect. But because they got the white they would

1496
01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:50.479
fly real fast in the next to the next tree,

1497
01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:52.479
large tree and stuff like that. So there's a lot

1498
01:21:52.520 --> 01:21:54.760
of stuff down there. I just don't tell you what

1499
01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:56.680
national park it is because I just want to be

1500
01:21:56.760 --> 01:21:59.399
at peace. For people to down there.

1501
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:03.199
Is actually gonna ask you. So it sounds like we're

1502
01:22:03.239 --> 01:22:06.039
not able to share what national park it was that

1503
01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:09.520
you saw the train hit the bigfoot.

1504
01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:12.920
Yeah, but I don't think I think that's the same animal.

1505
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:15.039
That's something I think the other bigfoot lady out there

1506
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:17.159
for he can get some help because I just really

1507
01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:20.119
training hold for only five miles coming through that national park.

1508
01:22:20.159 --> 01:22:22.479
They can't go too fast because of the They got

1509
01:22:22.479 --> 01:22:24.800
a station on the other side where they unload the

1510
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:27.520
trains and bring all that all those chemicals up to

1511
01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:30.119
the steam plant and to the waste treatment on the

1512
01:22:30.119 --> 01:22:31.960
other side on the around the bind. So they kind

1513
01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:35.319
of stopped and unloaded whatever and then taken up around

1514
01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:38.399
the ben and come take it back up around about

1515
01:22:38.399 --> 01:22:40.600
three or four miles and come back. They don't take

1516
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:42.920
the whole train, you know, one hundred and twenty cars,

1517
01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:45.000
don't go all the way up. They kind of parking

1518
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:48.720
down at that station and the side I can say

1519
01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:52.640
what it is because it's a it's with the Indian Reservation,

1520
01:22:53.279 --> 01:22:57.239
excuse me. And it's now there where Eon Musk is

1521
01:22:57.279 --> 01:23:00.319
at right now. It's over there at Memphis down on

1522
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:04.039
the other side of the Arkansas Memphis Bluff over there

1523
01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:08.039
where the Allen Steen plant in the water tapment. That's

1524
01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:10.960
very secluded, but it's a golf course and it's camping

1525
01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:13.840
grounds out there, but very few people come on that

1526
01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:16.159
back end because they put the thing plant out there.

1527
01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:18.239
But it's very gorgeous out there. They got a golf

1528
01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:20.359
course and everything out there, but I think they closed

1529
01:23:20.359 --> 01:23:24.199
that off because people had starts seeing the thing seeing animals,

1530
01:23:24.199 --> 01:23:26.720
So they closed their golf course off and try to

1531
01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:29.720
let their grass grow over And I said, why don't

1532
01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:32.399
they close off? Yeah, they had to close it off.

1533
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:34.239
They didn't fence it off. They just say it's close.

1534
01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:37.880
Quite a few golfers started seeing them over there, and

1535
01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:40.000
they the reports are getting off, so they were trying

1536
01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:42.920
to keep it where. I guess the animals can live

1537
01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:45.800
in peace because there's probably part of the funding that

1538
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:48.680
goes with the National park. They know certain animals are

1539
01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:53.560
certain creatures are there, so they they'll shut down a

1540
01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:57.119
beautiful golf course for the of keeping those things. And

1541
01:23:57.239 --> 01:24:00.119
lots of deer, lots of turkey, lots of animals. So

1542
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:02.680
they had plenty to eat. A lot of water there too,

1543
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.640
with a lot of fish baths and bluke i old

1544
01:24:05.720 --> 01:24:08.039
and stuff like that. And a lot of berries, wild

1545
01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:12.600
raspberries and blueberries down there that was growing wild. The

1546
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:16.359
cinnamons of trees, tons of trees of the cinnamon. So

1547
01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:18.880
I can see why the if there were big foots there,

1548
01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:21.960
they have I see two or three hundred the cinnamon

1549
01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:25.199
trees in the fall and they get riping around September

1550
01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:29.119
or October. Those the cinnamons, plenty of deer, plenty of turkey,

1551
01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:31.399
plenty of fish. I used to go back there and

1552
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:34.319
fish and catch a mess of fish. I wouldn't take

1553
01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:36.359
them all home, but there's times that i'd catch two

1554
01:24:36.399 --> 01:24:38.520
hundred fish. I let them go, most of them anyway.

1555
01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:42.479
Quite a few beavers, a lot of cowldies. I was

1556
01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:44.880
sitting on a tree one time. I was like this

1557
01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:48.319
with my back turned on the ground, and here come

1558
01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:52.000
a wolf, and I said, old man's telling the truth.

1559
01:24:52.039 --> 01:24:53.399
It was a beautiful wolf.

1560
01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:53.640
Man.

1561
01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:57.119
It was darker color, almost looked like a German shepherd.

1562
01:24:57.199 --> 01:24:58.720
He want a German shepherd. I was like, man, this

1563
01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:02.000
german sharp. I realized German shepherd, maybe a BYuT a

1564
01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:03.840
one year old. He was walking toward me. He didn't

1565
01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:06.600
see me because I was still. He walked back five feet,

1566
01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:08.960
about ten feet into me in front of me. Then

1567
01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:10.760
he just made a big line. He'd a run. He's

1568
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:15.000
just like a human, walk right back into the deep woods.

1569
01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:18.319
I said, man, you're gorgeous, beautiful. Always had a bluish

1570
01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:21.479
color like man. I said, man, that old man is

1571
01:25:21.479 --> 01:25:24.199
telling the truth about what's out here. And my wife

1572
01:25:24.199 --> 01:25:27.279
and I saw cougars she said, I was driving around

1573
01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:29.560
the back end. When I was in the car, she said, man,

1574
01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:31.560
you see that. I said, see what she says, said,

1575
01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:34.680
a big yellow cat in the tree. I said, yellow cat?

1576
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:38.279
She said, look like a cougar. I said, oh, it

1577
01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:40.520
probably is. I said, no, cat just gonna climb up

1578
01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:42.720
a pine tree like that or whatever. It was, clemming.

1579
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:45.439
She it was just right there. I was like, okay, yeah,

1580
01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:46.760
there's some of everything down there.

1581
01:25:46.760 --> 01:25:49.640
Hey, thanks for coming up. Is this a story I

1582
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:52.800
could share on the big Foot podcast that I have?

1583
01:25:54.960 --> 01:25:57.000
Yeah, if you, I mean, if it's interesting. It don't

1584
01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:00.600
seem like I have much to offer, just my experience interesting.

1585
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:03.479
Yeah, Hey, thanks for coming up. Man, I appreciate it.

1586
01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:05.960
Okay, okay, you have a good one.

1587
01:26:07.520 --> 01:26:09.840
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1588
01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:13.079
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1589
01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:16.880
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1590
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:19.760
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1591
01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:23.039
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1592
01:26:23.079 --> 01:26:26.039
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1593
01:26:26.119 --> 01:26:29.359
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

1594
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1595
01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:36.239
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1596
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if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

1597
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1598
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If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1599
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or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1600
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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1601
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1602
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1603
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If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1604
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1605
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1606
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1607
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1608
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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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1610
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