Oct. 26, 2025

It Touched My Head Through the Tent! | Idaho

It Touched My Head Through the Tent! | Idaho
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Season 1

In this multi-part, high-strangeness episode, we sit down with Gina and Steve from Idaho, a museum staffer from Cherry Log, GA, and others who’ve all had direct and chilling encounters with Sasquatch — and more.


You’ll hear:


Gina and Steve’s encounters across Idaho, including a screaming Sasquatch in the South Hills, a tent-side head touch near Idaho City, and a terrifying Dogman leaping onto a truck in Idaho Falls.


Cherry Log, GA residents reporting porch sightings, vocal mimicry, and a Bigfoot mistaken for a bear.


A roar encounter in a wooded park on the edge of Atlanta.


A military vet’s face-to-face sighting of a camouflaged Sasquatch on hunting land in Alabama.

Enjoy this intense episode of Bigfoot Society!

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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us,

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all I Big for Society. You've got the privilege of

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talking to Gina and Steve today. Gene and Steve are

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a couple that I reached out to through a comment

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that I saw on Facebook and we got connected that way.

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They're out there in Idaho. They've had some interesting things

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happen over the years. Welcome to the show, Gene and Steve.

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How are you guys doing today?

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Thank you wonderful, great, fantastic.

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Definitely had some interesting conversation about Idaho in the past,

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so it'll be interesting to see where this conversation takes

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us as well. Out there but guys, we did talk

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about before the show started is that I think it

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would be best if we went through this chronologically, and

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so we'll have you start with what you think that

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the first experience that you may have had out there is.

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Okay. It started in the bisentennial day of the United States,

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and the nineteen was around nineteen ninety eight. That show

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is Nobbe seventy seven. I was about thirteen and me

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and four of my friends were walking west of my hometown.

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This is in New York, up between the Saint Lawrence

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River and the Ironic Mountains, and we were headed west

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to a bridge that's a popular hangout and we would

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quike up the road which was abandoned and tore up

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or the railroads. So this day we decided to take

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the tracks to the bridge, and we got about two

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thirds of the way there. It's only about a mile

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and a half walk from town to this bridge and

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down the tracks. It was a section that was straight

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as a narrow for quite a ways and it's heavily wooded.

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That part of the state's pretty heavily wooded. We saw

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something about a quarter mile up the tracks that crossed

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the tracks in two steps. It was on two legs.

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It was very large, and we all stopped because we

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were totally flattergasted by what we saw. And we didn't

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elaborate on anything. We just all agreed that it was

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time to head back to town. It was in the summer,

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early afternoon, and that's that one. So that's my first

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time I saw anything. My second experience was I was

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camping alone in a tent host city, which is just

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southeast of Boise a bit, and I was solo camping.

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I was in a creek area. This was in nineteen

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eighty seven, and I went to sleep and about four

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o'clock in the morning, I didn't hear any noises, no

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thumping around or anything, but I had something grabbed my

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head through the tent. And in those days, the dome

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tents were really small, so your head was up against

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the wall of the tent, if that makes sense. And

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I felt something grab my head and pull away really fast,

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and it happened four or five times within about i'd

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probably say about five minutes, and it was still dark out,

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and I attributed that to probably rodent or squirrel something

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like that. But later on hearing other people's stories about

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being touched to tent walls. I went, that's probably what

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I That's probably what it was, because there wouldn't be

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anything that early in the morning walking around and I

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wouldn't think so. But anyhow, if you have any questions

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about that, feel free.

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Absolutely so.

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When you say it grabbed your head, was it like

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it was trying to palm your head like a basketball

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or it was like a small hand that was just

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trying to like gently.

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I felt several digits touched my head at the same time,

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so it was more like a grasping touch. But the

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more I think about it, have you ever seen like

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a chimpanzee or something touched something real quick and pull

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her hand back. Yeah, it was like that. And there

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was no noise, no odor, nothing other than that. I

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went back to sleep and I woke up. That was

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my second kind of retrospect experience that I had.

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So what was your It's pretty wild that happened four

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to five times at all. Really, I've been a situation

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in a tent where something was walking around outside that

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pretty much made me just.

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Made me go nuts.

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How is your emotional state when you were experiencing something

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touching your head the tent?

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I was just go away, leave me alone. Shoo sh git.

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But another thing too that's important is I don't think

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there was any noise because the area I had my

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can't pitch down was very mossy. It was creekside, so

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it was like a lot of watercress and water moss.

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It was dry, but it was very comfortable, and that's

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why I decided to set my can up there for

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the evening. I didn't hear anything or smell anything. It

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was just it was weird, but I attributed it to

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just a nuisances At the time. I didn't think of

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what else it could have been. But over the years

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listening to other people's experiences on your podcast and others,

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that that might not been a roadent that night.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely. And so you mentioned that it was a mossy area.

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Did you notice anything out of the ordinary in the

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area around your camp site when you got up the

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next day?

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There were no tracks, My camp gear was undisturbed. I

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really didn't see anything out of the ordinary. To give

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you a little background, I served in the military. I'm

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my combat veteran. I'm an avid outdoorsman. I was trained

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and survival by one of the TV celebrity survivalists, and

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it's not I don't know what is going on, but

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at the time, it was just seeking for the obvious

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of what it could be. And I didn't feel bothered,

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wasn't scared. I didn't have any overwhelming emotions or feelings

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going through my body at the time other than the

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fact that I got woke up when I was sleeping. Good.

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Absolutely, so that background makes more sense than why you

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weren't really freaked out because you were trained to deal

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with high pressure, high stress situations, is what it sounds like.

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Did you have any bruising on your head at all

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that you noticed the next day?

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No? No, it was very gentle. It was like I

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wasn't any more forceful then you touching the basketball, sitting

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on the ground, just touching. It was just a touch,

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a really small squeeze, and then a quick withdrawal, and

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that happened four or five times.

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Have you been back to that area ever.

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No, I've moved away from that area since then. But

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as we progressed later on, up there are a few

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areas I just won't I won't go back into you.

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I would probably go back up there again. I don't

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think i'd be I don't think i'd feel bad about

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going back in there.

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Absolutely, Steve. That's quite a way to start things off

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for you. Where in your sighting in seventy six, you

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so you saw something on two legs across the tracks.

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Did you notice any details about the thing that was

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crossing the tracks in front of you?

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It was really large. We all stopped. We didn't say

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just our eyes were like wide open looking at each other.

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What the heck was that? And if you look at

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the at a set of railroad tracks, you have the

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tracks themselves which are what probably about six feet wide,

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and then you've got eight foot of gravel on either

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side of those rails going back into the to the forest.

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That thing walked across the tracks and two steps. It

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just looked weird to us, and it was big, and

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like I said, it was a straight shop. So it's

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like we were looking through kind of like a tree.

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Don't cover the tracks at all, but it was like

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looking through a keyhole. It was just it was there.

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We all saw it, and it was It really freaked

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us out, but we just stopped, didn't discuss it, turned

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around and walked off. And we were twelve or thirteen

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years old there was a couple of guys older than me,

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a couple younger than me, but we all just looked

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at each other and decided it would be a good

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idea to turn around and walk back to town.

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Absolutely how far away from you, guys, was it again?

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About a quarter of a mile down the tracks?

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Okay, gotcha, but you could see it.

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It was like a straight shot down the tracks. You

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can see forever on those things. Oh.

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Absolutely, so very interesting stuff right off the bat. Feel

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free to continue, guys.

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My next one was in the mid nineties, and this

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one's kind of going to be a little more intense

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than the other one, and the reason being that the

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area has a history. So I was in the South

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Hills of Idaho at the time. My first Idaho experience

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I lived in. I was stationed at Mountain Home Air

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Force Base, and I was living in Boise. I was

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going to school and so i'd commute later on in life.

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I was in the Minnecaja area, which would be Cagua

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County in Minnedoka County, in an area called the South Hills,

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particularly an i Rockland Canyon or Rock Creek excuse me,

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Rock Creek Canyon, and it's a pretty heavily used recreation area.

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I was a little southeast of that area in an

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area called Skyline Ridge and as a ridge that divides

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two valleys. And I was sitting in a creek called

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Rash Canyon, Rash Creek, excuse me, Rash Creek. And I

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was sitting on the sagebrush hillside overlooking a creek, the

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creek itself that was filled with Lake Tooley's And I

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was there about a half an hour and everything went quiet,

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no birds, no bugs, nothing. And the weird thing was

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the air got very stifled. It was kind of like

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being a donut and one of those donut glass cover

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things that you see in diners. It was just stifled,

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and the air, the light had like a very light

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hue of yellow, kind of like a watered down lemonade color.

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It was really weird. And so I was sitting there

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just waiting for the deer to come hump and down

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through the creek bed because it was hunting. And I

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had a canalope sized rock land to my right by

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about twenty feet, and it thumped and rolled down down

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the hill into the creek bed. So I automatically thought

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someone was messing with me, and so I stood up,

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and I turned around and yelled, hey, knock it off,

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I'm trying to hunt. Leave me alone. Whatever. And as

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I when I stood up to do that, I witnessed

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another rock, slightly smaller, lobbed out of the tree line,

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which was about seventy five feet behind me where the

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first rock came from. Right. I don't know where the

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first rock came from. It could have been that same

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spot I wasn't looking at, just saw it land and

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rolled down the hill. So the smaller rock comes out.

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It was lobbed out of the trees. I heard some

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stomping around a little bit, and I got really nervous,

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so I chambered around in my rifle excuse me, and

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I immediately started walking back down the trail back to

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my four wheeler, which was probably about a quarter mile away.

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And I wanted to know if it was someone messing

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with me, So I paralleled the trail in hopes of

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drawing whatever was behind me to the side of me

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so I could get an eyeball on it, and that

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whatever it was it knew where I was at the

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whole time. And when I stopped, I was screamed at.

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And I've heard various screams online and it sounded like

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a woman just getting gutted. It was terrible, and the

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minute I started moving again, the screaming would stop. And

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I just finally tried navigating back to the trail. I

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wasn't that far off of it, but it was pretty

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thickety and rocky, so it's hard to navigate on foot.

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And then there was some thumping, like really loud thumping

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now like tree thumps, Like it had a log and

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it was thumping the ground, and we did I went

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up with a friend the next day and we did

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find a fence post sized log that looked like it

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had been beaten on, but it was thumped on the

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ground like dump that fast. And I was like, there's

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no way a man could thump the post on the

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ground that fast. It was just it was ridiculous. So

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with that said, I ended up getting back to my

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four wheeler, firing it up high tailing it out of there,

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and I had this sensation that I was being chased.

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I just call it spider sense, whatever you want to

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call the ebgb's whatever. I was like going down the

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hill way faster than I needed to be going, but

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I felt impending doom the fear factor was high, and

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for me, I don't really get spooked by too much,

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but that scared the living crap out of me. Got

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back to my truck, and when I got off the

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four wheel and shut it off, I noticed that the

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atmosphere had changed back to what it was prior to

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my experience. The bugs were out, the birds were out,

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the color of the air was different, and so I

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looked it up my machine and I got home. And

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now that I'm talking about it shakes me up just

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a little bit thinking about it, more so than I have,

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but that was pretty much it. Next day, me and

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my friend went up there. We went back up on

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the trail, showed them where I sat. We found this,

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Like I said, it was about a fence posts size

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piece of log eyeing sitting on the trail. There was nothing,

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and it was a part of the trail that I

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had walked up into and it wasn't there before, so

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I'm assuming. And then we found some divots in the

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ground from it that were a couple of inches deep

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and had to curve the curvature of the log. So

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something was in there beating that pole on or that

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piece of wood on the ground. And it was pounding

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it fast. That was pretty much it for that one.

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That's some wild stuff, Steve.

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You're crazy, you're gutsy dude to to start paralleling whatever

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that was.

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It was a human, yeah.

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And then when I heard the screaming, it was like,

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this is not what I think it is, and I

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just need to get my keyster out of here. There's

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two areas that are nearby. It's a City of Rocks

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National Monument. It's a rock formation monument as unusual rock formations,

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and it's also a place where a lot of world

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class rock climbers go to climb the various rock features.

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And then Alba Park and Albion, Mount Harrison, Oakley, those

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would be some other that. That area is southern idahosts

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spread out, So I got it. I can landmarks will

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probably bounce you in the right area versus towns.

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Okay, So it's just on a map, it shows up

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as a pretty big green area underneath Albion, this whole

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area we're talking about, all right, I got it.

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Cool, Thank you, I appreciate that.

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And also historically on Mount Cleveland there's like a crater

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lake up there, and if you hike up on the

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back side of that, there's an old scout camp that

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used to be up there, and they don't camp up

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there anymore. I've heard I've heard of stories when I

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lived down there of things running around up there. I

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didn't at the time. I didn't think too hot heart

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on that. It's just I deal with the obvious. I'm

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a pretty straightforward, logical guy. I just I don't. It

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was just a weird experience.

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That one was.

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That was probably my most fearful experience for me personally.

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Absolutely, I'm gonna let.

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My wonderful I'm gonna let my wonderful wife cut into

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our first camping trip up to an area that it's

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the night doc man, Are you gonna do the dog man?

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No?

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The next one that was in order. So this is prior.

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This was prior when me meeting from me meeting Steve

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in late nineteen nineties, about around I was trying to

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figure out they are probably about ninety seven some friends

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an I and this is in town and we live

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in Idaho Falls, and it was in town on not

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terribly busy street on weekdays, but it's definitely a part

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of town and it's residential. And then there's some businesses

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on this older street in town, and so we were

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at dinner across town with.

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Five of us.

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There were five adults, my father and some friends celebrating

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at a dinner, and I got a phone call from

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a friend that had a couple of drinks that she

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lived on this older street in this other part of

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town and asked if I could give her a ride.

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She didn't want to drive, and I said, we're finishing

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up with dinner. I'll have them drop me off there

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and I will drive your vehicle home and they'll pick

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me up.

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And she said okay, So I said, give me a

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half hour. We get over there.

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And there's only street parking and alley parking, and again

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it's an.

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Older part a town.

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So we parked in the back and walked in. I

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grabbed her and they decided to stay and have a

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quick beer while to give me time to get her home.

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So we exited on the street side and she said, oh,

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I parked two buildings down in the little parking lot.

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So as we're walking down to the parking lot, her

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truck was in the middle of the parking lot, the

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only truck out there. So we're walking through and as

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we approached her truck this thing, and it was tangible.

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I shake my head.

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Because I'm still blown away by this. It was on

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two legs, and I said, don't look at it. She

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started screaming, and I said, cover your eyes, don't look

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at it. I had no fear, surprisingly, and it was

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walking towards her truck. It was probably about six to

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seven feet tall, really lanky, long arms and long fingers,

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and I was looking peripheral. I didn't want to look.

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For some reason, I just knew not to look in

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his eyes. They were reddish, and so I said, just

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keep your head on the truck and walk calmly and

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just act like you don't acknowledge it. And then a

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lot of times I've heard that that that helps. So

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we walked and in the meantime, she's screaming and covering

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her eyes, and I just told her to be quiet

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and not so nice of words, and she's fumbling for

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her reached down to start fumbling for her keys, and

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as I'm trying to open the door, she's standing.

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For some reason, I sensed that this thing wanted her, and.

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I put her behind me, and it was still walking

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up towards the truck and then she notified me that

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she didn't have the door key to that door, so

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we had to back up. I said, back up and

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walk around to the other side. We're not going to run,

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We're not going to be scared, and she's just panicking.

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So I pushed it, not pushed her, but guided her

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while I was facing that thing, but my head was

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looking sideways and I was trying to get it good

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visual from my prophil vision.

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It was that closed. It was probably about ten feet

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at that point. We walked around to the other side

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of the truck.

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This thing was by the tire and I was three

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feet from it, and it was leaping or not leaving.

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It had gone down on all fours and it was swaying,

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swaying side to side, but obviously intent on looking behind

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me at her. It was the strangest thing, and I

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was very calm. Got her in and I literally had

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to walk back around the truck and.

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I faced it the whole time. I backed up and

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she opened the driver's side got in.

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As I got in, this thing leaped up on the

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hood and we shut the doors, unlocked them, and her

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head was down and I was putting the key in

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ignition and my head was down. I was trying to

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look at it through the corner of my eye to

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get a full visual and get as many details as possible.

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The truck was literally lobbing side to side too, that's

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how much pressure it was putting. And this lasted for

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probably about twenty seconds. And in the meantime, the party

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that I was with had gotten in the truck and

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come down the alley and stopped. The headlights were there

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and stopped, and they saw it as well, and it

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stopped moving and bouncing, the truck side to side, and

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it leaped clear across the entire parking lot and alley

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into a residential yard, over a fence, and we have

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no idea where it went after that. The truck I

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hadn't moved yet. I was still calm, but wondering what

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the heck just happened. And the other truck of the

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party I was with pulled up and said what was that?

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And I said, I don't know, I don't know. I

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just need to get her home. Just follow me. So

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we did that, and all the way there, she said,

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what was that?

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What was that? I said, just I don't know. We'll

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talk about it tomorrow.

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Let's just get you home anyway, So we were all silent.

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Once I got her home and I got in the truck,

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and they were like, what the heck was that?

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What happened? And I said, I don't know, I don't know.

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I just need to get home, just being I guess

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it was my coping mechanism, just to just get home.

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Once I got inside, I was shaking it crazy and

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I spent AOL was the big thing at that time,

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so I was on online on my big computer looking

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at anything and everything to try to figure out what

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this thing was. But I did write down the description

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so I wouldn't forget, and I did never find anything.

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I looked at chupicabras, I looked at werewolves and they

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were just too furry, and I had no idea what

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this thing was. But since podcasts, I have heard multiple

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descriptions that I'm like, I know what it was. It

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was a dog man. I'd never heard of such a thing,

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so I'm almost certain that's what it was.

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And that's and then she called me the next morning

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at five o'clock in the morning. Did we see what

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I thought we saw it?

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And I said, I don't know, why didn't you describe

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to me what you think you saw, and her description

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was right online. It was on target, and I said, yes,

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we did so anyway, But that's been It makes me

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shape thinking about it. It's so real and I've told

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the story to friends and it's just I don't know

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what it was. And I hope I never see one again.

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Wow, that man.

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So dog Man is a thing where if it comes

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up organically in the episode, then I'm cool with it.

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I will never as of right now, I'll never really

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pursue after it, but man, it is. I don't know

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how to handle it. Because you hear these stories and

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you're like, there's I've never heard a good one. It

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is always extremely potentially violent or going after the people.

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You hear some bigfoot stories and it's, oh, help my

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kid who got lost, or helped get the rock off

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my leg and I could get back home, but it

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doesn't happen in these So were you able three feet

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away is really close? Were you able to see facial features?

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Yes?

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Yes, I wrote this description down because I was looking

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online and I wanted to have every detail.

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I didn't want to forget anything.

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And I can tell you this thing was long and lanky,

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it had odd legs, and it's again I'm looking peripheald.

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I initially I saw walking up and then I just

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knew not to look at it.

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Once I saw red eyes on might turn your head,

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but I had my I was looking and trying to

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get every detail I could, and that close. It had

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the gray, pasty skin. A lot of skin was showing,

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but lots of toughs of furs sporadic throughout the whole thing.

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The upper arms had fur, the hands did not have

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much fur, and they were really long, jointy fingers, and

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when it got down on all four I could see

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those as it swayed back and forth. It had a

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pointy face chin area, and it had ears, pointy ears.

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It had sparse black fur.

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The fur was all.

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Black throughout in various areas, and then the skin again

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pasty gray.

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It had the red eyes.

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I didn't see teeth, wasn't like snarling or anything. And

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it didn't make noise that was anything noteworthy. Just hearing

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it breathe. It didn't growl, and I felt like I

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almost like it couldn't see me like it it wasn't allowed.

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It was the strange thing.

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I felt very protected and I was calm, and my

469
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:23.039
voice was just like this. I can't believe that I

470
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:27.319
didn't scream myself. But it had okay, the ears, the

471
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:30.119
hair on its head, on the top of the head,

472
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:32.559
a little bit of hair on the ears, but there

473
00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:35.519
was a lot of skin showing as well. And again

474
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:39.759
the pointy snout if you will, snow, it wasn't like

475
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:44.799
a full on dog nose. It was a little bit smaller.

476
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:47.920
And yeah, the eyes that the eyes were just creepy

477
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:48.839
as heck, they were big.

478
00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:51.799
But the arms, oh, and then the lace.

479
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:54.079
There was something really odd about the legs, and unfortunately

480
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:57.440
I couldn't see them close up because the body was

481
00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:59.839
in front of it. And this, oh, the spine. It

482
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:03.400
definitely had an odd spine. It was like curvature curve

483
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:08.599
punched back over spine. And you could see the gosh,

484
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.000
I don't know, the rolls in it, like a.

485
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:16.680
Vertebrae. Yeah, thank you, honey. You could definitely see that vertebrae.

486
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:21.200
And it was thicker up top than it was on

487
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:22.480
the lower portion of the body.

488
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:25.319
And I wish I could have seen the feet and

489
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:28.559
the legs bitter, but the arms were more to the

490
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:32.640
side too. The arms were not like ours are.

491
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:35.759
They were more out to the side, and I get

492
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:38.599
probably because when they when he went over on all fours,

493
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:40.920
he was swaying side to side, so his elbows were

494
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.759
out facing out instead of behind ours kind of face back.

495
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:51.880
These were definitely facing out. And then the swaying, the swaying,

496
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:53.559
there was just so much horse in the swinging and

497
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:55.240
that it literally was bouncing the.

498
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:56.880
Truck side to side.

499
00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:57.759
It was crazy.

500
00:26:57.880 --> 00:26:59.519
But it had its face right up there in the

501
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:02.400
windshield and my head was down and hers was in

502
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:05.119
her hands, and we just sat.

503
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.559
There for a second and then it leapt. It leapt.

504
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:10.400
It was quite a distance that it left. That parking

505
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.440
lot was about how big is that parking lot?

506
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:12.720
Steve?

507
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:20.880
Maybe maybe Yeah, it's not a parking lot, but it

508
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:21.680
was big enough.

509
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:24.720
And then the alley, it just it leaked really high

510
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:28.839
up over a fence and I didn't see it after that.

511
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:30.720
Crazy.

512
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:34.039
Uh, that's wild, it really is. I want to make

513
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:38.200
sure I got something right. So the shape of the

514
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:43.720
face did not necessarily have a super obvious like dog

515
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.240
snout like you usually see you with dog Man.

516
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:48.079
It was a little different.

517
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.000
And you're saying it wasn't as bad I expect. Okay,

518
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.440
so I envisioned dog Man. Once I heard about dog Man,

519
00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:58.359
I thought werewolf. That's all I could think of as

520
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:01.960
the old werewolf with this big, huge snout. It did

521
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:03.759
have a snout, but it wasn't as big as I

522
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.599
would say for the face. It wasn't as big as

523
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.440
you would consider the old school were wolf. But it

524
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:14.440
definitely had a doggish snout. It just wasn't really it

525
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.319
wasn't pronounced. It was maybe like a three inch 'm

526
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.160
just speculating nose snout. But the mouth it was like

527
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:24.359
a dog snout, but it wasn't like huge like you

528
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.039
would expect in the old werewolf movies.

529
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.039
Was it more like a dog's nose than or like

530
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:30.960
a human s nose?

531
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:33.640
It was both.

532
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:37.400
It's the strangest thing. It was both.

533
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:40.119
I was trying to figure out, is this a I

534
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:42.759
have no idea. I have no idea, but it dog

535
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:47.240
Man is the definitely. Now that I've looked up different

536
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:50.079
drawings that people have seen and heard about it on podcasts,

537
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:53.160
Now that I'm aware of that dog Man, I finally

538
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:55.559
think I have my answer of what it was. But

539
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.440
back then I was like, this is a demon? Is

540
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.880
this a I've heard of chubcog and I've actually heard

541
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.759
of those around here as well. There are tales of choopicabra,

542
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:06.359
and I thought, okay, what is the chrip of carobress?

543
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:08.279
So I started researching that, thinking that might be what

544
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:11.319
this thing is, and there was nothing close it. Definitely

545
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.839
dog Man is the is what I could If I

546
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.640
were to pick what this thing was, I would definitely

547
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:18.319
say dog Man.

548
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:19.920
Wow.

549
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:24.000
And I don't have the background of where I know

550
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:27.599
basic things about dog Man, like Land between the Lakes Kentucky.

551
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:32.519
Is this area known for sightings that are similar to this?

552
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.440
Or was this a pretty rare thing to see something

553
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.079
like this and Ida at Falls?

554
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:38.440
Well, probably pretty rare.

555
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.519
I have told a few people, and I do have

556
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.920
one friend that said that he had seen something similar

557
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.559
at one time, but it's nothing I've ever.

558
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:47.119
Heard of before.

559
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:53.160
But honestly, with so six of us adults total saw

560
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.359
this thing, and if I would have been alone, I

561
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:57.240
would have questioned my own sanity because it was the

562
00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:03.200
strangest thing in the strangest populated location. And I've lived

563
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:05.240
here all my life, so it was just I don't

564
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.079
even know. I would think I was crazy and I.

565
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.279
Wouldn't tell the story if I didn't have so many witnesses.

566
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:13.039
Yeah, that's the wild thing is, as you said, there

567
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:15.039
are so many witnesses to this.

568
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:16.359
Were there.

569
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:20.680
I wonder if there was any like security camera footage

570
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.960
of that that a parking lot.

571
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:26.319
Probably not.

572
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.319
Back in the day, it was a pretty it's an

573
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.160
older area, kind of old buildings that had a couple

574
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.920
of little businesses in them, but it wasn't a real popular.

575
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:41.279
I don't. I doubt the parking lot would have.

576
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:41.839
I don't know.

577
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:46.440
Also, it's ninety seven, so yeah, it's a little different

578
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:51.720
time period. How did this affect you guys afterwards? Was

579
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:55.440
it hard to move on from this encounter? Or I

580
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.599
guess you can talk for yourself specifically.

581
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:03.000
Yeah, we discussed multiple times, but just being awe. I

582
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:05.960
know one the couple that was with I was at

583
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:09.319
dinner with our friends. They didn't want to talk about it.

584
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:11.680
It was it breaked them out that they just didn't

585
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:13.839
want to talk about it. My father, who has since

586
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.960
passed it, was also with us and we talked about

587
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:18.680
it and he was just like, I have no idea

588
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:19.119
what that.

589
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.400
Was, and I can't believe that you it was so calm.

590
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:23.880
I was so calm.

591
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:27.559
And the girl that was that I picked up that night,

592
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.680
I don't talk to her see her often, but for

593
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.680
weeks on end we were online looking actually months and

594
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:34.559
still to this day.

595
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:38.200
When I met Steve years later in two.

596
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.160
Thousand and nine, I told him about it and he

597
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:43.240
was helping me. So it's been on my mind often.

598
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.519
And my kids when I got home and I told

599
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:49.519
them about it, they were teenagers and they helped me

600
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:52.160
look online and they still talk about it. So it's

601
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:54.960
something that well, I'll never forget. I've told this story

602
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:55.960
so many times.

603
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:01.279
I've been trying to create imagery using what you have

604
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:07.559
given me for descriptions, and it is. It's absolutely horrifying stuff.

605
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.359
Probably have nightmares from this. Just the way it looks

606
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:15.000
is Cralind. I'll be fine, but I'm just saying I

607
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.279
can't imagine what you went through being there.

608
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:21.839
Yeah, I did have some dreams and I my daughter

609
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.559
asked me right after that, after she had heard about it.

610
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:26.640
I told him just be careful when you guys are out.

611
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.240
This thing really happened, and Grandpa can verify it. Your

612
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:32.319
dad can verify it, and can verified. And I was

613
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.559
concerned I said, but I knew it didn't want me,

614
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:36.759
and I haven't seen it since.

615
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:40.000
That's good, that's great.

616
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:44.519
Have you ever looked into something called the pale Crawler

617
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.240
at all or the rake anything I've done?

618
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:48.519
Yeah?

619
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.400
I have, and actually Stup pulled those up for me

620
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.599
and I as far as the fingers and the color

621
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:59.720
of the skin and the lurkiness about it, that if

622
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.279
if they would have had fur and the ears and

623
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.440
the pictures he'd brought up and then I that would

624
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.960
have been a close kind of description of the lankiness

625
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:13.960
and the eerie crowing this about it. Whatever, it was creepy.

626
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.039
And I'm with you with the dog man thing. I

627
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.920
don't care about. If I see Bigfoot, great, I'm not

628
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:22.119
worried about that well as much. But if I ever

629
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.279
see this thing again, anytime I even hear dog man,

630
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:25.480
I get chills.

631
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.200
I don't want anything to do with that. Yeah, that's

632
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.440
time I want anything to do with Did.

633
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:32.119
You ever.

634
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:33.680
Go ahead?

635
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:35.680
Sorry, I got one more question, then we'll move on

636
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:39.079
from We'll move on from this one. But did you

637
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:43.200
ever go in back into the restaurant or any businesses

638
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.079
in that area and be like, hey, we saw something

639
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.200
weird out in the parking lot, and have you guys

640
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:48.759
ever heard anything else.

641
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:49.480
Anything like that?

642
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:54.440
I did ask one of the businesses there a little

643
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:58.400
later and that they hadn't heard of anything. And I

644
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.480
didn't really go back into that one and asked. I

645
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.839
didn't know them well enough that I got to go

646
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:07.440
as public talking to anybody or telling the story. For

647
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.119
a while, I just spent a lot of time on

648
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.320
all just looking. But yeah, if I ever hear anything

649
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.039
or I'll let you know if there's an exciting or

650
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:15.000
anything of another one.

651
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:19.280
All right, I appreciate you you sharing that with us.

652
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.480
I know I can only imagine man if I experience

653
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.639
that something like that, I would still be dealing with

654
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.159
things from that from to this day. So thank you

655
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.880
for going back to that point in your life for

656
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.000
a few minutes. But so well after that, what else

657
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:36.119
did you guys experience?

658
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.760
Oh?

659
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.320
Okay, we have a couple of really good ones together.

660
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.920
They are bizarre. So all that's takes off like.

661
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:48.039
The old commercials. Wait, there's more. Okay, Back in two

662
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:50.159
thousand and nine, Oh, I wanted to add something to

663
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.840
you to since you're the researcher, I'm going to give

664
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:56.519
you a more pinpointable location or area if you go

665
00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:59.840
to the bfr O website, which I did because I

666
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:02.119
was trying to figure this thing out. On that little

667
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.960
honey incident, there's two other incidences in that area where

668
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.039
a gentleman was cutting wood and he's been featured on

669
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:14.239
a television show about his account. He left his trailer,

670
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:16.920
he was cutting wood, He left his trailer and saw

671
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:18.480
up there and got out of there because he saw

672
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:23.199
something huge looking down at him on a hillside while

673
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:26.679
he was cutting wood. And then in another incident, there

674
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:32.719
was a Cajut County sergeant dispatcher and her grandson who

675
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.599
were aggressively accosted by what she described as a sasquatch

676
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:39.920
that actually she saw him. It charged at him in

677
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.639
Wallstrom Hollow. So I was in that general area. I wasn't.

678
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.199
I was a little more east, but about the same

679
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.199
latitude as those other two site. It's in the same

680
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.800
general area. So I piqued my interest at that, but

681
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.000
I got more to go. Does that help you out.

682
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:59.960
Any Yes, that helps out. I'll have to look into that.

683
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:01.719
As Cashia County, Idaho.

684
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:04.199
It looks ye Gaga County, Okay.

685
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:05.639
Cool cool Okay.

686
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:11.039
So in two thousand and nine, actually two thousand and eight,

687
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:15.639
went with some friends and their adult kids. To give

688
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.880
you a little background on this. My friend, I'm not

689
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:20.159
going to mention his name, but he's a Zuni Navajo,

690
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.519
very spiritual, and we had talked about what he calls

691
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.880
the Bigfoot, our old people, people that have lived here

692
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.239
away before we have, and he says, I know of

693
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:36.039
a few spots where something might happen, and it's a

694
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.639
cool place and everything. So we ended up going. It's

695
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:42.960
in between led Or, Idaho and Mackie, Idaho. It's that

696
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:48.159
ridge right between it just south of what's that Lake

697
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:53.079
Meadow Lake Meadow Lake is another crater lake on the

698
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.000
top of the hill. We're on the back side of

699
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:57.800
that down below in a canyon called the Meadow Canyon,

700
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:01.039
and we had set up up camp early in the

701
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.639
day and if you look to the west, there's this

702
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:10.320
really scenic alpine picturesque, I mean, it's really paintable mountain

703
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:15.840
and there's a trail that heads north to the right,

704
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.719
and then the left fork takes you down further west

705
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.719
where there's a bunch of caves on the side of

706
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:26.320
the hill and a lot of slate sandstone kind of stuff.

707
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:30.679
But this particular time we decided to hike up the

708
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:33.920
trail to see what was up in there. And so

709
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:40.920
another one of his son's friends had a Magellan GPS

710
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:43.199
and I had a garment, and so we were just

711
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.920
interested in the sea, which one performed a little better.

712
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.199
So we had taken some survey tape out of our

713
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:53.440
backpacks and we did waypoints and tied a piece of

714
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:57.039
survey tape onto a limb or roughly over the point

715
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:01.039
where we had made the waypoint to see who was

716
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.480
going to be more accurate finding the waypoints on the

717
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:06.960
way back. And so we hiked in. I know, it

718
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.400
was about a mile and a half two miles. It's

719
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:12.639
pretty steep. We're at it well over seventy five hundred feet,

720
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.760
so you don't want to unless you're in really good shape.

721
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.519
You want to over glet yourself up that high. But

722
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:21.320
we got towards the end of the trail and there's

723
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.199
a big pile of slady earth, this kind of combination

724
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:28.239
of slate granite earth, and there was this cedar tree

725
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.760
that was really weird when we looked at it because

726
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.159
all the branches on the tree had been knocked off.

727
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.719
It looked like something had wrapped its hands around this tree.

728
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:41.199
It was probably about eight inches in diameter and just

729
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.519
snapped up all the twigs and branches off to the ground.

730
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:48.039
They were piled up at the trunk and the top

731
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:51.440
part of this tree, the tip of it was split

732
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:55.199
down the middle and it was twisted down and it

733
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:59.599
looked like a hark. It was tied off. It wasn't

734
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:03.559
like snap up, bit was tied in a knot. And

735
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:09.800
the tree was probably about thirty I wouldn't say, I

736
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:13.800
would like to say fifteen to twenty feet tall. This

737
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:15.400
is a long time ago, so I'm just trying to

738
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.119
repicture it in my mind, but ain't how The odd

739
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.159
thing to me was it was twisted, it was bent down.

740
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:23.360
It looked like a heart so it branches spread out

741
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:26.199
and it was twisted down and tied together, like the

742
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:29.119
trunk was split from the top on its way down

743
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:33.320
and tied into a knot. And we felt that was odd,

744
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:39.280
And we turned around to head back to camp, and

745
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:41.119
every once in a while on the way up and

746
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:43.920
on the way back, we were getting whiffs of really

747
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:50.119
musky this human boh. We were questioning each other who

748
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.800
didn't shower, but it was really pungent. It was really strong.

749
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.440
And didn't see anything or hear anything at all, but

750
00:39:56.519 --> 00:40:02.000
the scent was overwhelming. It just wasn't right. But there

751
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.440
were still birds flying around and noises in that so

752
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.760
I don't know why that would be, but nothing word

753
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.119
of that sort was going on. What was really weird

754
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:13.920
is coming back down the trail. We'd hit our wait

755
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.719
points and we'd looked for the survey tape and the twigs,

756
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.280
and everywhere we had tied survey tape two on the trees,

757
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.400
they were snapped off and laying on the ground. I

758
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:28.719
was like, okay, this is like crazy weird. We looked

759
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:32.920
around for footprints, didn't see anything. We thought someone was

760
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:36.000
messing with us. Something was messing with us. So we

761
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.280
just continued back down the trail to camp. Before we

762
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:41.840
get to that split in the trail, on the hillside

763
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:45.480
of this picturesque mountain i'm telling you about, I saw

764
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:48.360
about two hundre yards what appeared to me to be

765
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:51.880
a large bear walking on all fours up up towards

766
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:53.719
the top of the ridge. It was traversing, so it

767
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:55.559
wasn't going straight up. It was going up at an

768
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:58.400
angle and it was walking on all fours. But it

769
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:02.599
was far enough away and obscured by the tops of

770
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:06.079
these pines and cedars. It appeared to me to be

771
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:10.039
a bear. But now I'm debating on whether or not

772
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:13.880
it was something else again in retrospect. We got back

773
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:19.079
to camp and that was it for that time. Now,

774
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:24.599
the next year I took my now wife along with

775
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:27.840
the same friends to go back to that canyon to camp.

776
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.000
I had at the time a big, huge cabin tent

777
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:36.960
as a spring bar. It has a lot of pegs

778
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.960
on the bottom of it. There's twelve or fifteen pegs

779
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.000
you have to drive in and then tension polls hold

780
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:46.559
the walls up in the roof up. But as we

781
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.559
were setting that up and pounding the steaks in, probably

782
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.480
need to backtrack a little bit give you a better description.

783
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:56.599
When you're pulling into the canyon, the metal part of it,

784
00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:59.840
you drive through these woods, it looks like tokens and

785
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.400
wood forest is like all these old, dead, twisty trees.

786
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.519
There's nothing growing in there, and it's just weird. And

787
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.039
that goes for about I don't know, maybe about an

788
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:12.119
eighth of a mile. It's not very long. And then

789
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.199
there's a sinkhole and you have to pick up your

790
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:16.079
speed and dright around the edge of the sink hole

791
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.840
to navigate into the canyon to the left, and then

792
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:24.480
you're in. And as you straighten out head back west,

793
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:27.960
if you look to the north, there's a cliff wall

794
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:31.079
on another ridge that's not attached to that mountain I

795
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:34.960
was telling about that was probably a couple hundred feet high.

796
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.320
And that's relevant because when we were pounding the pigs

797
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:44.280
excuse me, we had there were huge boulders getting pushed

798
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.639
off the top of that cliff and they were falling down,

799
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:49.559
and we stopped a couple of times, and they're like,

800
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:54.599
what is what's going on? This is totally weird. And

801
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:57.320
when we stopped pounding the pegs in the ground, that

802
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:03.360
stopped all together and nothing else happened until later on

803
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:06.119
in the evening. And that was pretty eventful. So I'll

804
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:11.400
let my wife elaborate on what how what she heard,

805
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:14.800
and we don't have a difference, but it's important for

806
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.360
her to describe what she heard versus what I heard.

807
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:23.079
Okay, so that night and I we're speculating it was

808
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:26.599
probably about two o'clock, one thirty two o'clock after week

809
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:29.480
set around the campfire, and we went to bed, and

810
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.519
I'm not sure how much longer after we had fallen asleep,

811
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:35.559
we both.

812
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:38.719
Woke up and just sprung up. The ground was rumbling.

813
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:40.039
It sounded.

814
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.239
I actually said, there's a herd of elk or something

815
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:45.360
running through here. And you could hear it feel it.

816
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.119
Whooshed by the tent and the rumbling was so intense

817
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.159
it could only be a herd of something, and I

818
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:53.559
thought we were all going to get trampled.

819
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:56.159
We had three tenths sitting there. It was that loud,

820
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:57.039
and that's scary.

821
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:01.079
He jumped up and he grabbed his guy and grabbed

822
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:05.519
his sight, and anyway, I was shaking, and I thought

823
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:08.400
we were going to get trampled. So I let him

824
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.880
be my outdoors monody and open the tent. The other

825
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:14.760
people with us did the same thing, but Steve was

826
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.159
the first one to look out, and I'll pass that

827
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:18.239
back to him.

828
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:21.920
So the site she's talking about, I had a very

829
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.400
primitive I still have it. It's a very primitive rush

830
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.679
in night vision monocular and it's not the greatest picture,

831
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.360
and you can make out shape a couple hundred feet away.

832
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.280
And whatnot. So I had grabbed my rifle that I

833
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:38.559
took up there with me and the night vision, and

834
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:40.880
I looked around. I didn't see anything, but I agree

835
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:43.920
with her. We heard a bunch of it was loud.

836
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:47.840
It was bumpy. To me, that's what we, of course,

837
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:52.199
trying to be logical and sensible, alluded to that it

838
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.079
was probably a herd of elk or deer or something.

839
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:59.320
But the thumping in the ground vibration it was really

840
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.480
it was was a bit more than that, I think. Said.

841
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:04.679
We all were looking at one another and that we

842
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:09.119
went to lay back down, and we heard it again,

843
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:12.639
and I stuck my night vision out the tent again.

844
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:16.239
And I had parked my truck a good distance away

845
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:19.039
from the tents because that's where we kept our coolers

846
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:22.440
and stuff, and I didn't want that near the tents.

847
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:25.960
And I looked up at my truck and I saw

848
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:32.599
four large kind of blobs. That's how permittive that night

849
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.599
vision sight was. Couldn't make out any great detail, but

850
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.639
they were big, and they were on all fours and

851
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:40.440
two of them were in the bed of my truck.

852
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:44.519
And so I picked up my keys out of my

853
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.920
coat pocket and I hit the Berncy button, the panic

854
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:53.559
button on my keyfob, and they scattered off and it

855
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.280
was the horn went off, the lights were flashing. They

856
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:01.119
took off, But it was weird to be because they

857
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:05.360
were high enough to where it was a Toyota Tacoma

858
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.159
and the backs so these humps were almost level with

859
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:13.360
the truck bed. I don't know. I'm thinking in retrospect

860
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:17.840
that maybe there was a group of juveniles or something

861
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:19.960
in there. I don't know. They were just like I said,

862
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:25.000
I didn't have any great detail. These were like eighties seventies,

863
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:29.039
eighties aero technology, nothing like we have today. I've since

864
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.760
upgraded them just for that reason, but that was kind

865
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:36.039
of weird. Also, earlier in the evening, before it got dark,

866
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:38.880
we hung up some glow sticks in this canyon. There's

867
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:41.159
no one getting back in there. It's twenty one miles

868
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:44.760
from the main road on like a jeep trail up

869
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:46.840
into this meadow. There's no one coming up, and you

870
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:50.719
go up in altitude about twenty five hundred feet. We

871
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:53.800
hung up these glow sticks and we were planking at

872
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.960
them with our rifles, and we hit a couple of them,

873
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.360
but some of them we left hanging in the tree,

874
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.960
and we noticed later on that they were going out,

875
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.599
so we thought we'll go over and pick up our pieces. Now,

876
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:09.840
we don't want to be litter bugs. Pick up the

877
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:11.880
pieces of what we shot and what was hanging there.

878
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:13.840
We got over there. The ones that we hadn't hit

879
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.599
we hung up. I think it was six white sticks,

880
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:20.360
and we recovered three damaged ones, and we know the

881
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:25.559
other three were just hanging there. None of those were found.

882
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:29.920
Couldn't find them. So I can't tell you what happened

883
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.280
to him. I don't know, other than the only logical

884
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:36.199
thing would be is something picked those and AM's grade

885
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.559
with them. But that was a crazy night for both

886
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:42.719
of us. We all talked about it the next day

887
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:48.119
and just left it at that. My friend we sacked

888
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:50.679
our gas, looking at each other, and then we started

889
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:54.239
talking about the year before, and I'm like, you're right,

890
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.400
there's old people up there. I'm thoroughly convinced hers. And

891
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:01.159
we didn't see him. But the next morning it's even wilder.

892
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:05.159
We go to pick sage because we like to smudge

893
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:09.199
our house and smug ourselves with the sage, and at

894
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:13.360
about a certain altitude there's a different variety of sage

895
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:17.039
that smells really pleasant, and so we went down to

896
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.880
pick some of that. And so we left camp site

897
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.480
with a couple of plastic bags and I had nothing

898
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.719
but a tomahawk on me, and we walked down and

899
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.880
it was basically i'd probably say, a good third of

900
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.000
a mile away from camp back down the road, and

901
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:38.239
we went into that Mirkwood forest area and then there's

902
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.400
a clearing after that. Like I said, we got past

903
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.800
that and we were in there picking this sage and

904
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:47.880
it was a lot of it. And as we were

905
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.239
there probably what maybe ten or fifteen minutes on the

906
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:54.239
ridge line next to us, which is next which parallels

907
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:57.400
that road in through that Mirkwood forest as I describe it,

908
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:04.840
there was the sound of charging whatever, trees crashing, huge

909
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.719
grunts and growls. It wasn't a bear. I know every

910
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.880
animal out here what they sound like, and it was

911
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:18.159
nothing like that. But we didn't see anything. It scared

912
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:22.719
Gina's so bad she started to take off, and I

913
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.800
don't blame her. Eyes Like, Gina, don't run if you'll

914
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:29.199
set off a predatory response. And all I got is

915
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:32.079
a tomahawk. So she stopped saying goodness and I caught

916
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:34.320
up to her and we hustled it back to camp

917
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:36.960
and we told my friends about it and they were like,

918
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.400
let's just pack up and get out of here, and

919
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:42.719
we didn't. So we cut the weekend short to get

920
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:44.480
out of there because it was just there was too

921
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:50.159
much craziness going on. It really was crazy. So I'm

922
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.119
open for questions on that incident.

923
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:58.119
Man, oh man, that is a lot happened to you

924
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:02.320
in two days. I want to double check. So when

925
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:06.400
you were looking at your truck, the four large blobs,

926
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:10.920
all of those were on all fours, you said, yeah,

927
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:11.320
but two of.

928
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:13.360
Them were in the bed of the truck. The tailgate

929
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.679
was down. Two of them were in the bed of

930
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:20.800
the truck. Okay, so the call my head at the

931
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:23.000
time that had a three inch lift on it. I

932
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.840
wasn't super high off the ground, but to have the

933
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:28.880
backs of those humps, that's all I could tell you

934
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.559
is they looked I could say they were more bear like,

935
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:35.199
but what's the likelihood of having I don't know. They

936
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.519
could have been bears, but I don't think so. Because

937
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.800
the weight of the running that we experienced beforehand was

938
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.079
crazy and I didn't see anything the first time I

939
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:47.039
looked out the second time, which was not too long

940
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:50.079
after the first time, I saw those in their tool

941
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.239
and they the backs of them went up almost to

942
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:56.840
the top of the bed of the truck, and that

943
00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.320
would be bigger than a bear. On all fours. We

944
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:00.880
have black bear is up in there, and we do

945
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.320
have grizzlies out here, but in that area, you're not

946
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.000
likely to see a grizzly. And our next and last

947
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:11.800
final incident will talk about there's there could be grizzlies

948
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:14.599
in there, not likely, but you'd have to be closer

949
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:19.079
to the Rocky mountains and the Continental Divide before you

950
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:20.679
start running into those.

951
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.719
Have you ever bound back to Medal Canyon again?

952
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:28.440
No? No, no, okay, we're going back there.

953
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:33.360
Yeah, absolutely, Wow.

954
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:36.920
It would take a lot to go back there from

955
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:39.159
you too, if that was a lot of really close

956
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:42.480
stuff for you to deal with. But feel free to

957
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.360
to continue with what your next experience was.

958
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.800
I know, let's say this will be our last one,

959
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:52.320
I think, and that's it. Really in another area closer

960
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:57.440
to your very interested you vocalized on your podcast how

961
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:01.199
interested you are in this area Palisades Reservoir.

962
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:05.880
Oh yeah, dude, Okay.

963
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:10.360
So we're a little northeast of there, like maybe about

964
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:13.159
five or six miles on the south fork of the

965
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:20.719
Snake River accessed it's icy canyon, but he goes back further.

966
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:24.400
It keeps going until the road ends, and you're probably

967
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:28.000
about five or six miles from your Swan Valley incident,

968
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:30.360
and then just down the road a little bit as

969
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:38.559
Pallis hs War. So this was in twenty eleven. Me

970
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.480
and my wife wanted to spending overnight in the tent

971
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.480
next to the river, and we found this cute little

972
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:48.039
flat spot that you could fit your tent and your

973
00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:51.440
pickup truck in, and that was it. And so we

974
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:56.440
set up tent and had a little fire going, just

975
00:52:56.440 --> 00:53:00.119
sitting there chilling out. All of a sudden, around eleven thirty,

976
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:05.199
we were just looking over the river and this very

977
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:10.760
large object, probably about two hundred yards away, two hundred

978
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:13.039
and fifty yards away on the other side of the

979
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.639
Snake where there's no access road access into that area.

980
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:24.760
This large humanoid object came out of the tree line

981
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:30.599
onto the sandbar and it was weaving back and forth

982
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:36.880
like a priming. I mean that I've seen videos of apes,

983
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:43.639
and that's what they do, and I had a five

984
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:48.960
hundred lumen flashlight and I turned it on to see

985
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:51.480
if I could get more detail on what this thing was,

986
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.480
and it would just merely walk back into the tree

987
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:57.679
line until I would turn the flashlight out, and then

988
00:53:57.679 --> 00:53:59.480
it would come back out and start doing the same

989
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:03.039
thing over again. Now it's even a little more interesting.

990
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:09.079
While this is going on, we've got orbs everywhere. Everywhere.

991
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:15.400
There was like probably eight or nine orbs, and there

992
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:18.559
was no color to them, just white, bright white, like

993
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:22.199
they were about the size of undiscustimating, probably like large

994
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:26.000
beach balls, flying all over the place. And when they'd

995
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:29.199
fly near the canyon wall to the south fork of

996
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:34.280
the snake, the canyon walls would illuminate. And we started

997
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:36.480
seeing these things roughly a little bit just before we

998
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:39.199
saw the object, but they were in the distance just

999
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:44.760
starting around when we started seeing this thing, the orbs

1000
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:48.920
got closer and we're like going everywhere. It was nutty,

1001
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:52.880
and we didn't see anything as far as great detail

1002
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:56.559
on that just to silhouette. But it was a crazy night.

1003
00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.719
Oh do you want to interject on that incident?

1004
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:01.480
It was a crazy night.

1005
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:05.880
These lights orbs or whatever they are, they were going

1006
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:07.280
there was no formation.

1007
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.239
I counted between eight and nine. I couldn't.

1008
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:12.519
They were moving all over the place, so it's hard

1009
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:14.760
to get the exact number, but they were going at

1010
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:17.880
ninety degree angles, right. They were going every which way

1011
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.639
and turning direction up and down, and it.

1012
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:22.079
Was like a whirlwind of crazy.

1013
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.519
So we're already stunned by the silhouette and then all

1014
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:28.320
that started happening. We were looking at each other, looking up,

1015
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:30.679
looking across the river. This went on for a good

1016
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.519
half hour, and then finally the orbs disappeared, and we

1017
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.159
were like, what whiskey tangle foxtrot?

1018
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:41.239
And we sat down by the fire. We didn't know.

1019
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:44.320
We were just in shock, really, and we looked back

1020
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:48.400
over across the river and this thing was doing his

1021
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:49.480
sway thing.

1022
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:51.159
Again, and the orbs were gone.

1023
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:54.119
And then he again grabbed his flashlight put it up there,

1024
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:58.599
and then it slowly stepped backwards into the woodline again,

1025
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:00.800
and that was the end of it.

1026
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:04.199
Now you're probably get asked, did you guys sleep? Not really,

1027
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:06.559
So we did climb back in the.

1028
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:09.039
Tent and listened for every little thing we could hear,

1029
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:11.239
and I kept asking him, are you sure that thing

1030
00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:14.000
nothing can cross the river right, and he said the

1031
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:16.119
current's too strong. The currents too strong, And I'm like,

1032
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:18.920
I'm hoping you're right, because we didn't know if we

1033
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:22.199
were going to be abducted or sasquatster what was gonna happen.

1034
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.559
Would have probably packed up and come home, but we

1035
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:25.719
were like, no, we're gonna stay.

1036
00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:29.440
Yeah we did in the morning nough. So anyway, that

1037
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:30.800
was the extent of that one.

1038
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:35.039
That's wild boy was there any way? You're looking at

1039
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:38.039
it with the light of the flashlight, but it's across

1040
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:41.239
the river. Could you tell things like it looked like

1041
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:45.079
you had no clothes or if it was.

1042
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:48.679
Oh yeah, it was dark. It was just solid dark.

1043
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:51.360
Even with a flash light, you would I think you

1044
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:54.480
would see some sort of contrast, but it was just

1045
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:57.400
dark black. And it was tall. I would say it

1046
00:56:57.440 --> 00:56:59.719
was probably. I would say it was a good eight

1047
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:00.719
to night feet tall.

1048
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:01.599
Oh wow.

1049
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:04.280
From looking at it, but it would just come out

1050
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:06.360
of the tree line far enough you look at the yard,

1051
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:09.400
and I had a pretty good flashlight for the time.

1052
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:13.119
It would just light it up enough for to see

1053
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:17.199
like a matt finish to the to whatever it was,

1054
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:19.760
and it would just back in to the tree line,

1055
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.840
avoiding the light, and then when I turned the light off,

1056
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:26.000
it would take a couple of seconds and just meander

1057
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:28.719
on back out there. And it wasn't like a hurried pace.

1058
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:32.199
It wasn't aggressive. It was just weaving back and forth.

1059
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.360
Whatever that might mean. And I would guess primate language.

1060
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:39.920
I had no idea what that means. But that area,

1061
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:43.000
I will add palisades in that. There are a few

1062
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:46.320
areas and palisades. I will not camp. There are a

1063
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:48.559
few areas and palisades. I will not ride my four

1064
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:53.280
wheeler through because I've gotten the GBS and I don't

1065
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:57.079
ignore the EBGBS anymore. I really don't. That's just your

1066
00:57:57.159 --> 00:57:58.960
human instinct telling you if something's wrong.

1067
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:01.039
That whole area.

1068
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:05.119
I'm trying to think of that creep down there, McCoy Creek. Yeah,

1069
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:08.360
McCoy Creek has got a lot of stories down in there,

1070
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:12.480
off podcast on podcast with Bfroro and that people we

1071
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:16.159
know that around here. The biggest thing is it's I'm

1072
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:20.679
not saying they're accepted, but it's it's approached nonchalantly in

1073
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:22.480
other words, that they yeah, you're going to see stuff

1074
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.920
out there. Pretty much attitude since ev Lacercion's eighty five,

1075
00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:28.559
and I just give you everything that I've seen at

1076
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.199
is weird. But you are right about Palisades. There's a

1077
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:34.119
lot of weird stuff going on down around that area,

1078
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:36.840
and we want far from it. But if you ever

1079
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:38.920
get a chance to come out and visit, have a

1080
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:41.199
look around there, and you'll see it's like prime habitat.

1081
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:42.000
It's beautiful.

1082
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:42.480
Gotcha.

1083
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:45.000
I had a feeling ever since that one the one

1084
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:49.199
episode I did with the older guide Hunter Gentleman, and

1085
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:52.360
he just had some wild stories about about Palisades. But

1086
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:55.480
I'm definitely going to look up McCoy creek. Get one

1087
00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:58.840
more question for you about the humanoid figure that you saw.

1088
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:03.800
So when you shine a flashlight at a human, usually

1089
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:07.559
most humans they'll react where they're gonna like win cover

1090
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.960
their face light. They didn't do anything like that.

1091
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:13.360
Did not do anything like that. It just wopped. It

1092
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:16.599
just kind of walked slow paced backwards and just went

1093
00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:19.119
into the tree. Light. Now, so all you have is

1094
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.000
two lea's. It's just basically rushing olive and too le's

1095
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.559
in there, so it's a thick brush and then you'll

1096
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:27.079
have if there's cows on that side, you'll have probably

1097
00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:30.039
some cow trails busted through there and whatnot. But he

1098
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:32.639
would just go or it would just go back into

1099
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:35.679
the tree line until I turned the flashlight off and

1100
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:37.400
it would come out and there was enough light from

1101
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:40.960
the moon that you could see it okay without the flashlight.

1102
00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:45.599
But it was just black and tall. It wasn't very

1103
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:48.519
thick though it was. It was pretty. I wouldn't say

1104
00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:53.239
super skinny. It was kind of like, I don't know,

1105
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:55.719
like looking at a I wouldn't say a basketball player,

1106
00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:57.280
more like just a football player, but not like a

1107
00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:58.480
pro football player at all.

1108
00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:00.760
Yeah, definitely buffed out from.

1109
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:02.760
Our distance, from our distance cross the river.

1110
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:06.559
The other thing I noticed is that, so this is

1111
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:09.719
back in twenty eleven. Have you guys called it quits

1112
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:12.599
then for going out and doing crazy camp stuff.

1113
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:16.719
No, No, we still go out. I just was out

1114
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:20.559
hunting by myself yesterday yesterday and in an area. That's

1115
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:22.440
that as far as I know. There's nothing going on

1116
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.000
up in there, but knowing my knowing my history, and

1117
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:28.760
I don't know, like the there's two emojis, the pool

1118
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:32.800
emoji and the magnet emoji. I don't know, but yeah,

1119
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:35.159
I found it all day I hunt by myself once

1120
01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:37.400
in a while. I'd like to hunt with a friend

1121
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:39.960
or someone, but during the week and everybody's working, and

1122
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:42.679
that was like my only free time, and the weather

1123
01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:43.920
hasn't been that great out here.

1124
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:47.840
So yeah, I would go back to the last camp

1125
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:48.599
spot for sure.

1126
01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:51.599
Net Canyon, no way, and heck would I go back there.

1127
01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:58.559
So absolutely no. Where we're at, there's the areas.

1128
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.119
We've been talking about, I would imagine, and most of them,

1129
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:06.360
besides bigfoot, have pretty big predators in their listeners. Oh,

1130
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:11.000
you need to be very cautious about places, and that's why.

1131
01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:13.440
That's why I always pack a fire them. And when

1132
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.000
you're out here in the wilderness, so you get a

1133
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:17.840
lot of tours that come in through here and they're

1134
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:20.280
just totally nonchalant to the fact that they're part of

1135
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.239
the food chain. That's really what it amounts to. I

1136
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:28.480
don't ever go out without something that will do substantial

1137
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:31.880
damage to a bare sized animal. I will work it

1138
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:35.079
that way, whether it be a twelve good shotgun or

1139
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:38.519
a ten milimeter or a rifle of some kind. I

1140
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:42.440
usually carry an M one and a out there if

1141
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.039
I'm not just as a camp gun. But yeah, you

1142
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:48.239
don't want to go out there without being armed and isolated.

1143
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:52.480
Camp areas now campgrounds, we would and we have on

1144
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:55.599
camping multiple times in between these that these are just

1145
01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:58.559
when we've had encounters of some sort or odd things happened.

1146
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:03.400
Yeah, absolute in our experience is the only aggression that

1147
01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:06.400
I really witnessed was when we were picking the sage

1148
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:09.920
out of all mine, that's the only really aggressive.

1149
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:13.920
I felt terrified when it was like a false charge

1150
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.280
and it was just it was going through everything in

1151
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:21.760
its path and it got probably oh less than sixty

1152
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:24.159
feet away from us, but we couldn't see it because

1153
01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:26.360
it's really thick, and like I said, it was just

1154
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:30.239
full of dead wood and it was crazy. But whatever,

1155
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:34.639
it was totally unfamiliar to me and sound and we

1156
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:36.679
got out of there. It was like time to go.

1157
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:38.199
It's just too flipping weird.

1158
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:43.599
Just a fascinating group of experiences that you have had

1159
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:48.239
in some really interesting areas that for the most part,

1160
01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:50.440
there's a lot of new stuff. I would be interested

1161
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:54.000
to hear if any listeners have experienced stuff by what

1162
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:57.719
was the that creek again, it was McCoy Creek. That

1163
01:02:57.840 --> 01:02:59.840
sounds interesting, Yeah.

1164
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:04.039
Yeah, I McCoy creek. I've heard of stories of kids

1165
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:08.880
getting stopped, not taken, but something creeping, like spider walking.

1166
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:11.800
I've heard stories several stories of spider walking in the

1167
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:15.639
grass where they out Apparently they were like outstretched and

1168
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:18.320
walking around their fingertips and weird for me, but I've

1169
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:21.639
heard stories of that. I've heard people getting spooked by

1170
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:27.719
shadows popping down behind their cargo trailers, people's trailers getting

1171
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:30.519
bumped and stuff. They've actually evacuated that area a couple

1172
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:33.599
of times, and they weren't too descriptive of what was

1173
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:35.599
going on. It was just packing crap and get out

1174
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:38.639
of here. Something's going on, and something going on.

1175
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:40.559
Yeah, that was.

1176
01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:43.039
Then the last one was, like I think it was

1177
01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:46.880
in the ninth or maybe early two thousands, when some

1178
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:51.199
hunters came down when I was up there and they

1179
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:54.400
said there's something down in the ravine and everybody leaving.

1180
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:56.559
We had our kids and we were camping with some friends,

1181
01:03:56.599 --> 01:03:59.519
and every little camp spot along the way was full,

1182
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:02.679
and we were told to get out of there, and

1183
01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:04.880
we did. Everybody packed up that there was a bear

1184
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:08.039
or something, but these hunters said it was not a bear.

1185
01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:10.719
And that's the only thing I remember from that is,

1186
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:13.400
So check into that and see if that might be

1187
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:18.159
on the somebody else's side, if it was or recorded somewhere.

1188
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:22.119
Absolutely, I've never heard anything like that before. That sounds

1189
01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:25.159
like it could be an incredible account, So I'll have

1190
01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:27.880
to do some digging regarding that that would be in

1191
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:33.280
the McCoy Creek area as well. Yes, okay, yep, gotcha, gotcha.

1192
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:34.320
Wow.

1193
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.159
Gene and Steve, thank you so much for coming on

1194
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:40.920
the show today and for sharing all the experiences that

1195
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:44.159
you've had over the years. I hope maybe these will

1196
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:47.400
unlock some memories for other listeners and they can feel

1197
01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:50.760
free to reach out Bigfoot societygmail dot com or they

1198
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:53.920
can leave a comment as well. But thank you so

1199
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:55.800
much guys for coming on, and if you ever have

1200
01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:58.840
anything else happen, feel free to reach out. I'd love

1201
01:04:58.880 --> 01:04:59.800
to talk to you guys again.

1202
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:03.519
I'll definitely keep my eyes and ears open for you

1203
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:04.920
because I'm out there quite a bit.

1204
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.480
So yeah, thank you for having us and bearing with

1205
01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:09.280
us through our adventures.

1206
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:11.760
Hey there, how are you?

1207
01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:13.239
How good?

1208
01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:15.199
How are you doing good?

1209
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.280
I saw your comment It looked pretty interesting. You've had

1210
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:20.199
stuff going on since nineteen ninety eight.

1211
01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:25.079
Yes, sir, Wow, I'd love to hear about it.

1212
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:27.480
Okay, first, I want to start off.

1213
01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:32.719
I have speech problem problems, so I stutter and sound

1214
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:36.119
funny just to let you, just to let the viewers know.

1215
01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:43.639
But so I'll work at an expedition Bigfoot in Terry Locke, Georgia.

1216
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:48.000
Now we're talking, and yes, it's super awesome.

1217
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:51.239
I got this job a year ago, but for years,

1218
01:05:51.320 --> 01:05:55.639
when I told my first story, it was oh, you're crazy,

1219
01:05:55.679 --> 01:06:00.239
you're crazy, You're crazy. And then years later in up

1220
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:01.679
working for a Bigfoot museum.

1221
01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:02.840
So it's super exciting.

1222
01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:06.880
I want to start off with telling you I've been

1223
01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:11.280
on sash Clutch chronicles. I'm going to go into my

1224
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:11.880
story now.

1225
01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:13.559
Okay.

1226
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:19.960
So nineteen ninety eight, I was fifteen years old and

1227
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:24.440
I was dating a guy and we were coming up

1228
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:28.039
we were coming home, or he was bringing me home.

1229
01:06:28.159 --> 01:06:30.880
We were coming up our dirt road, which is wildlife management,

1230
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:37.679
and we had stopped arguing back and forth. And this

1231
01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:42.159
guy is super big. He's six foot four, six foot five.

1232
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:46.079
I can't really remember now exactly how big his height is.

1233
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.519
But we're sitting back and forth, we're arguing stupid teenage

1234
01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:51.800
stuff whatever.

1235
01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:53.480
But he looks having.

1236
01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:57.760
He's like, getting the truck, and I am, I'm going

1237
01:06:57.800 --> 01:06:59.760
to argue to the end, and I might know we're

1238
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:04.920
not So I'm arguing with him and I'm like, no,

1239
01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:05.599
we're not done.

1240
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:07.280
He's like, no, getting a truck. And by the time

1241
01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:11.639
he's like ghost what and he's like it. Get in

1242
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:12.119
the truck.

1243
01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:15.679
And I look where he's looking and I see this

1244
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:20.920
massive creature and it's doing the weaving in between the

1245
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:26.519
trees and it's checking us out. It's not aggressive or anything.

1246
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:29.760
It's like, you know what's going on, what's ficking to happen?

1247
01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:32.800
So it's weaving in and out of the trees and

1248
01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:38.239
it's about fifty yards from us, and it is super huge,

1249
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:42.880
like its shoulder I can't even say a football player

1250
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:47.079
that it would be big enough to be shoulder length

1251
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:55.960
with because it was so broad. But I'm looking up

1252
01:07:56.280 --> 01:08:00.199
at this thing and I'm going, oh my gosh, if

1253
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.559
that thing's real, what else is real? Because I grew

1254
01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:10.239
up with all kinds of Biggerman stories. And I actually

1255
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:11.280
finally get in the truck.

1256
01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:11.800
Let's go.

1257
01:08:12.039 --> 01:08:15.760
It's being super docile as not being aggressive or anything,

1258
01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:20.560
and we take off. We go to the house and

1259
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:22.439
that was the end of it. We talked about it

1260
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:26.880
a couple of times. But I'm no longer with this guy,

1261
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:30.039
and throughout the years I've lived in the same place,

1262
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:35.000
but we've had so many things happen around here.

1263
01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:38.319
So I've talked to one of your co workers, Amanda.

1264
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:40.880
Yeah, Amanda, the big Fit Lady.

1265
01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:43.800
Yeah, you guys a lot of stuff.

1266
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:49.640
Yeah, we have some amazing stories that come in.

1267
01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:55.319
I can't imagine. I can't imagine at a place like that.

1268
01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:58.960
So are you Let's see what was the what's the

1269
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:00.319
most recent thing you've.

1270
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:01.520
Experienced that period.

1271
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:09.640
For me, It's been probably about four years since I've

1272
01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:13.000
had anything happen around here. But everybody in the neighborhood

1273
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:16.840
has had something they finally have went. I think we've

1274
01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:20.000
heard or seen or had some kind of interreaction with

1275
01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:25.840
your big foot. And these are the same people that

1276
01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:29.840
criticized me and thought that I was crazy when I

1277
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:30.760
was a kid.

1278
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:38.119
So are people having actual visual satings or what kind

1279
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:38.960
of things going on?

1280
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:45.840
So my neighbor when she just moved away last year,

1281
01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:49.239
but my neighbor down here, she was from New York,

1282
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:54.039
moved to Florida and then moved up here, and she

1283
01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:56.159
had called me one night, which she called me all

1284
01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:59.640
the time about bugs and all kinds of critters. But

1285
01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:03.239
she called me one night and she's like, Maritha, there

1286
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:05.159
is a grizzly bear down here.

1287
01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:09.199
And I'm like, we don't have grizzlies.

1288
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:12.239
And she's like, well, it looks like it's sitting on

1289
01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:14.760
the bank close to the creek. And she's like, I

1290
01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:17.279
don't know what it's doing, but it's just sitting there.

1291
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:19.560
She's like, I'm fixing to get my gun. She's like,

1292
01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:22.399
because it's a grizzly bear, and I might, honey, we

1293
01:10:22.439 --> 01:10:26.720
don't have grizzly bears. You might see a cinnamon black bear,

1294
01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:32.119
but we don't have grizzly bears at all. And she

1295
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:36.159
was freaking out. But that was her calling me and

1296
01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:38.880
flipping out. And I was like, I think you're seeing

1297
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:43.600
our bigfoot and she's like, what is a bigfoot?

1298
01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:46.399
Oh?

1299
01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:47.399
Welcome to the party.

1300
01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:47.880
Wow.

1301
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:52.119
But that wasn't the first time that she's seen it neither,

1302
01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:55.720
because after that she had seen it at the end

1303
01:10:55.760 --> 01:11:01.199
of the porch of her house. So she was like, oh, gosh,

1304
01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:03.439
it's not a bear. It's standing on two legs. It's

1305
01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:08.960
by pedal, because I had went into all everything telling

1306
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:11.800
her like big fits by pedel, bear cat walk very

1307
01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:14.399
long on their back legs unless they have injured polls,

1308
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:15.560
blah blah.

1309
01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:20.279
I went to school for wildlife bology.

1310
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:23.239
So I'm trying to explain everything to her going and no,

1311
01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:24.920
I think you're seeing our big thing.

1312
01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:28.840
Really that area down there are they pretty much for

1313
01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:32.319
the most part, non aggressive encounters.

1314
01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:38.439
Now we haven't had we haven't had any aggressive It's

1315
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:39.880
all been very docile.

1316
01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:43.199
That's good.

1317
01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:44.159
That's good.

1318
01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:48.359
And I got to get down there someday. Just want

1319
01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:49.920
to see the museum and just.

1320
01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:50.760
There's so much.

1321
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:57.439
I take reports from the Chattahoochee National Forest at the northwestward, too,

1322
01:11:58.119 --> 01:11:58.600
is wild.

1323
01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:02.479
We just had an encounter in cherry Log.

1324
01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:07.359
The first one was August seventh, and then a couple

1325
01:12:07.319 --> 01:12:10.199
of weeks later in the same area there was another encounter.

1326
01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:13.960
So yeah, you need to come and check it out.

1327
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:19.079
We've got major stories that are coming in and out around.

1328
01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:23.039
Here, I guess. So you're probably talking to people every

1329
01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:24.000
day about stuff.

1330
01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:26.359
Yes, I do.

1331
01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:33.880
But I'm like I'm in my heaven with people coming

1332
01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:37.239
in talking to me because, like I said, I was treating

1333
01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:41.439
like the weird child and everybody saying, hey, no, that's

1334
01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:46.680
not real. And now even my mom she was one

1335
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:51.840
that no, rather, you're crazy, but now she's even going.

1336
01:12:52.319 --> 01:12:56.479
She calls me constantly because of stuff we hear around

1337
01:12:56.479 --> 01:13:00.399
the house. And not even around the house. She had

1338
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:03.439
her sister owns a property in Alabama and she's coming.

1339
01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:07.319
She's like, listen to this, and I'm like, oh, are

1340
01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:09.159
we a bigfoot enthusiast?

1341
01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:13.119
Now said they're here in like Flisians or.

1342
01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:18.479
Yeah, around the house, we have something that mimics a dog.

1343
01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:21.159
And like.

1344
01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:27.359
My little road, I'm related to every road or or

1345
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:29.119
they've been.

1346
01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:32.479
Around long enough, I'm related to And if that makes sense, yeah,

1347
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:35.880
I get it. Yeah, we know all the pets that

1348
01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:38.960
they have, they've all made the rounds or whatever.

1349
01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:42.239
But there is something around here that mimics a dog.

1350
01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:44.680
And it's not something that's trying to yip like a

1351
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:49.960
Cody or anything of that matter. It is something that's

1352
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:54.279
trying to It sounds like it's trying to be a coon.

1353
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:58.720
Dog, but it's not. You can tell that it's robotic.

1354
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:05.079
And then we got sacking. I say something, but it's

1355
01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:05.720
not something.

1356
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:09.159
I'm pretty sure that it is our still our big

1357
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:09.920
hairy friend.

1358
01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:13.239
Yeah, because it likes to mimic a owl too.

1359
01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:16.760
Oh yeah. Sure.

1360
01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:20.199
One thing, I was search and rescue back when I

1361
01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:26.760
was younger, and I had to do training in our

1362
01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:29.760
forest around here, way back in the forest. And I

1363
01:14:29.760 --> 01:14:32.840
can't remember what a colony of owls is called, or

1364
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:36.920
flock or whatever, but when they.

1365
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:40.439
Start going off, they sound like a bunch of monkeys.

1366
01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:42.399
Yeah, barn owls.

1367
01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:46.760
Yes, it's wild and if you grew up in this

1368
01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:49.640
kind of environment, you know what they sound like. But

1369
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:53.279
I've had the neighbors, the family colin be.

1370
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:54.880
Like, what is this?

1371
01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:58.199
This is not our normal stuff, And I'm like, I've

1372
01:14:58.239 --> 01:14:59.439
been telling you for years.

1373
01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:00.039
It is.

1374
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:03.800
Something that y'all keep telling me. I'm crazy about.

1375
01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:05.560
That's awesome.

1376
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:10.479
Do you have a favorite report that you've taken while

1377
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:16.960
working in the museum, Yes.

1378
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:17.199
I do.

1379
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:21.079
This one is out of Alabama.

1380
01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:24.279
But the guy was in the military and they had

1381
01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:28.199
hunting property in Alabama and he said that they went

1382
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:34.359
going in and went hunting everything didn't have lucks that day,

1383
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:35.439
and was coming back.

1384
01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:38.960
Out and lining it going into their hunting property.

1385
01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:42.399
There's I don't know if it's big bushes of saw

1386
01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:45.319
grass or what it was that he kept saying, but

1387
01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:48.520
it was bushes, and he said he walked in and

1388
01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:51.520
was coming back out and he stopped and noticed that

1389
01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:55.159
there was an extra bush and that they had fired

1390
01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:59.800
too scared too, scared it off and everything, and it

1391
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:01.039
just stood up and.

1392
01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:02.479
Was like, okay, fine, I'm leaving.

1393
01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:04.479
Oh man.

1394
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:08.039
But it messed with them after that too, because when

1395
01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:10.960
they set up their blinds and staff that they.

1396
01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:16.920
Noticed that it hadn't messed with everything. And that is

1397
01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:21.279
when it comes to around here. But I have other

1398
01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:23.840
ones that are outside of the United States because we

1399
01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:26.479
have people that come in that are outside of the

1400
01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:27.640
United States as well.

1401
01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:31.199
Oh, I'm sure you have people from all over the world,

1402
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:33.680
which is amazing.

1403
01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:37.640
Cool stuff, cool stuff, Mart.

1404
01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:39.880
Is a pleasure meeting you, and thank you for chatter.

1405
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:43.239
Is this a conversation I can put up on the podcast.

1406
01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:48.720
You can just explain that I have speech problems.

1407
01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:49.399
Yeah.

1408
01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:52.439
I wouldn't have even noticed anything if you hadn't mentioned it.

1409
01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:54.359
But I appreciate you coming up.

1410
01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:58.479
Oh, You're welcome. You have a good night, you.

1411
01:16:58.479 --> 01:16:58.840
Too, man.

1412
01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:03.359
Awesome, that was fun. I like talking to people for

1413
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:09.640
that museum. Expeditions, expedition, Bigfoot Museum, and what is the

1414
01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:13.800
actual town. It is Blue Ridge, Georgia.

1415
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:15.159
Either.

1416
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:18.720
Hey, man, I'm happy. I'm glad that you have give

1417
01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:20.399
me the opportunity to tell my story.

1418
01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:21.960
Yeah, go for it.

1419
01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:24.560
Man. Well, I'm gonna ask you if you had I

1420
01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:26.159
guess you had experience yourself.

1421
01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:29.600
I've had some weird stuff happen.

1422
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:33.119
I haven't had any visual sightings, but I've had stuff

1423
01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:37.640
happen from trees got pushed over. I've heard whoops in Iowa,

1424
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:41.680
tree knocks, I've been roared and at in Oregon, all

1425
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:44.079
sorts of weird stuff. But I've never had a visual.

1426
01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:47.399
Okay, I didn't have a visual, but I had a shadow.

1427
01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:49.640
And let me just explain what happened. I have a

1428
01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:51.800
friend of mine that his grandfather had one hundred and

1429
01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:56.119
thirty acres of land connected to at a state park

1430
01:17:56.520 --> 01:18:00.880
in Atlanta called Sweet sweet Water Creek Park. The state

1431
01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:05.039
park and his land is connected to the park.

1432
01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:05.600
You know what I mean.

1433
01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:09.199
Every night the deers would come towards the property. He

1434
01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:12.600
had a pond in the front and everything. So one

1435
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:15.439
night I'm in front of the house and I mean,

1436
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:17.720
not do I've heard all the animals and.

1437
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:20.800
All what they do when the deer gets scared them

1438
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:21.199
hurt all.

1439
01:18:21.439 --> 01:18:23.800
But it's one time, I'm sitting in front of the house,

1440
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:27.239
right and this thing sits in the middle of the woods.

1441
01:18:27.279 --> 01:18:30.479
Man and him and his girlfriend are in the couch inside.

1442
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:33.000
They flirting or whatever. They're having a conversations. I'm outside,

1443
01:18:33.800 --> 01:18:35.960
so I hear this thing running up on the hill.

1444
01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:39.760
But at first I thought it was deer, right, but

1445
01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:42.640
it was a deer. And then but then this thing

1446
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:45.880
was stomping. If you was watching a marvel A movie,

1447
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:49.399
like if the Hulk was running through the woods, boom,

1448
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:53.720
and you can hear it plowing through the woods, breaking branches,

1449
01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:57.239
and this thing was unstoppable, right, So I get nervous. Man,

1450
01:18:57.319 --> 01:18:59.479
so I grabbed a quarter out of my pocket and

1451
01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:01.479
I start back in the window because I would I

1452
01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:03.880
want to be because that night you can hear everything

1453
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:06.560
over there, And so I'm banging on the window with

1454
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:08.520
the corner trying to get his attention to come out.

1455
01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:10.680
So he finally comes out.

1456
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:13.479
Right when he comes out with his pit bull, the

1457
01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:16.239
creature stopped running right, So the creature had reached the

1458
01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:19.199
bottom of the hill right right behind where the pond was.

1459
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:21.279
That the pond was facing for the house.

1460
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:22.920
You know what I'm saying. Was at the front door.

1461
01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:25.359
You see the pond right in front of you. Behind

1462
01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:29.119
the pond. It was maybe an acre or whatever. That's

1463
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:30.760
what the thing was. It had stopped running.

1464
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:33.640
So when he came out with his dog, I was like, yo, man,

1465
01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:35.880
I'm I think Bigfoot is out there.

1466
01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:38.199
I think Bigfoot is up there. So he's looking at me.

1467
01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:41.039
When I was drinking a beer, He's looking at me like,

1468
01:19:41.159 --> 01:19:43.079
oh man, you buggy man dunk man.

1469
01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:45.079
I'm like, man, I'm telling you, man, I'm serious.

1470
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:45.319
Man.

1471
01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:47.960
They said, look, just stay and this. You know, he said,

1472
01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:49.840
you're crazy. He stops walking in the house. The creature

1473
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:53.760
started coming our way through the woods. Boom, you hear

1474
01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:56.880
all kind of branches breaking. This thing is real, man.

1475
01:19:57.279 --> 01:19:59.439
This is nothing that you could just hear and just

1476
01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:03.039
dismiss all that. So, dear, there's no way. Then the

1477
01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:06.079
thing stops. Man, maybe man.

1478
01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:08.680
I can't even calculate the distance like that.

1479
01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:12.079
It wasn't that far way, maybe thirty yards for the yard,

1480
01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:13.800
but it stopped at the edge of the woods.

1481
01:20:14.359 --> 01:20:15.359
It didn't show itself.

1482
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:18.279
It stopped at the edge of the woods, and it

1483
01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:22.159
let out a roar that didn't match your size. To me,

1484
01:20:22.359 --> 01:20:26.960
the raw was so loud and it was so intense

1485
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:30.119
that I can't explain them. Man, I've been looking for

1486
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:33.880
that raw through all kinds of monster raw things.

1487
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:37.319
I even watching big foot channels, and it didn't sound

1488
01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:39.239
like none of them. This thing is.

1489
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:41.760
Oh man, I can't the closest eye but sound I

1490
01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:44.880
ever got from it. I could play it for you.

1491
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:47.039
It was just a little bit of that sound in

1492
01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:49.039
that tone. Do you want to hear it like what

1493
01:20:49.159 --> 01:20:49.960
it kind of sound like?

1494
01:20:50.920 --> 01:20:52.199
Sure, and let me see.

1495
01:20:52.239 --> 01:20:54.359
Hold on, let me see why I got it. I

1496
01:20:54.359 --> 01:20:55.039
gotta look it up.

1497
01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:58.039
But anyway, so anyways, it let out a raw so

1498
01:20:58.199 --> 01:21:01.640
loud right that friends, he opened the door and ran

1499
01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:05.239
inside the house. The dog followed him inside, and his dog,

1500
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:09.479
a pitpo used to taste all the deer and any

1501
01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:12.439
animal that will come out of the neighborhood. That dog

1502
01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:15.680
went inside, Man, I'm talking HERU. I went inside, and

1503
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:18.640
then when they went inside, the monster let up another row,

1504
01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:22.920
real loud. So I'm like that, dude, I'm not scared,

1505
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:24.439
but I'm shocked.

1506
01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:26.920
This thing is real because I was one of little

1507
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:28.680
guys that well you look at it like yeah.

1508
01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:30.960
And then the thing is, it's hard for me to

1509
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:33.680
tell the story because when you on the other side

1510
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:36.239
the people that have witness, it's different from being on

1511
01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:38.880
the other side of another witness from for you trying

1512
01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:41.800
to explain it to somebody that never ever heard the story.

1513
01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:44.159
They looking at you like that.

1514
01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:47.640
Connective dissonance kicks in and they're not trying to They

1515
01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:49.960
already magically shut you out.

1516
01:21:50.119 --> 01:21:52.920
You crazy, You're on drugs and all this stuff that

1517
01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:55.159
you And I'm like, oh wow.

1518
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:58.760
So me and my friend we went to sit together, right,

1519
01:21:58.920 --> 01:22:03.720
this happened Friday night. We went to work on Monday. Monday,

1520
01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:07.239
I'm telling everybody at work and they all look at

1521
01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:11.479
me like I was insane. Then I see him, Yo, Man,

1522
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:15.159
tell him he denied it. Man, he let me down.

1523
01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:15.399
Man.

1524
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:16.439
I was so pissed at him.

1525
01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:19.399
He didn't enjoy the story because he was a driver

1526
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:21.960
and anyone anybody to think that's what he told me.

1527
01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:24.279
He didn't want anybody to think that he was messed up.

1528
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:26.239
I said, dude, man, this is a story to tell.

1529
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:26.560
Man.

1530
01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:29.439
I was on there on a positive to trying to

1531
01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:31.880
see what's going on. He denied him, and the thing

1532
01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:34.319
is there. It was since that day I've been looking

1533
01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:38.600
into Bigfoot. So I went into the Oh I'm sorry, okay, yeah,

1534
01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:42.079
I went. After the two roars, the monster started walking

1535
01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:45.880
up the hill and let out a third roar right

1536
01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:48.479
in the middle of the mountain, but it was lower

1537
01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:51.680
than the first two. And then when he got all

1538
01:22:51.680 --> 01:22:54.279
the way to the top of the hill, he let

1539
01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:56.640
out another row. So all together he let out four

1540
01:22:56.760 --> 01:22:59.640
rows that I've never heard in my life ever from

1541
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:02.880
any creature that I've seen on TV, from even from

1542
01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:03.840
a God's Zilli movies.

1543
01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:06.199
I've been looking for this raw and I haven't been

1544
01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:08.119
found it yet. It's unique.

1545
01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:12.960
It almost got an elephant in it, Yeah it almost

1546
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.319
had Yeah, it almost had an elephant type to it.

1547
01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:16.319
But it was real.

1548
01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:17.039
Man.

1549
01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:17.760
It was intense.

1550
01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:19.520
Man, if you would have heard that row, you would

1551
01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:21.359
turn around. You want to see God's Zilla behind it.

1552
01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:25.439
It was that intense. And it was with authority. So

1553
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:28.640
I've been looking for all this stuff about bigfooting it.

1554
01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:31.560
We still go into the property. So next thing, you know,

1555
01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:35.000
that same girl that was with him that night, she

1556
01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:35.720
never heard the rooks.

1557
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:38.279
She was just out of house. That was Missy playing.

1558
01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:38.720
She didn't hear.

1559
01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:41.880
She comes back with another friend of hers, right, They

1560
01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:45.039
visited us at the house, so my buddy needed time

1561
01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:46.199
to be by himself.

1562
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:48.279
With her, so he left me with the other girl outside.

1563
01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:50.479
So I put her in my pickup truck and I'm

1564
01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:52.600
driving around the property. You got a lot of you

1565
01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:55.800
can drive around, and I'm telling her the story. Oh yeah,

1566
01:23:56.479 --> 01:23:59.520
I'm telling her the story. And she's like looking at me,

1567
01:23:59.640 --> 01:24:00.920
like this guy's insane.

1568
01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:02.880
And when we get back towards the house, and as

1569
01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:04.920
soon as she got out of the car, that thing

1570
01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:08.720
roared from far away during the day, and she said,

1571
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:11.560
what the dad, And I said, what's the thing I've

1572
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:14.079
been talking about. That's the thing I've been telling Now

1573
01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:18.319
that girl started crying. She couldn't believe that she heard that.

1574
01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:19.920
So that's what If she heard it.

1575
01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:22.520
From far way and felt that way, imagine how I

1576
01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:26.079
heard it, because it sounded like a serious monster out there.

1577
01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:29.720
And then I started looking around if any sightings of

1578
01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:32.840
Bigfoot on Sweetwater Creek Park, No, but then the next

1579
01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:35.520
park over, the next state park, which is in uh

1580
01:24:37.199 --> 01:24:41.520
High Room, Georgia, there was a two sightings of people

1581
01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:44.359
reported over there, and then the further you went up

1582
01:24:44.439 --> 01:24:47.720
north and more it became common. But this park is

1583
01:24:47.800 --> 01:24:49.840
right there at the edge of Atlanta, you know what

1584
01:24:49.920 --> 01:24:51.760
I mean. I was like, what's the screech doing in

1585
01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:54.079
the city, man, you know what I mean? So it

1586
01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:57.479
just makes it just doesn't commute because normally I thought

1587
01:24:57.520 --> 01:25:00.640
that those things would be in the remote and stuff

1588
01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:03.359
like that. But this thing is right there in Atlanta, man.

1589
01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:05.199
So I'm trying to see how this thing.

1590
01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:07.439
Is surviving in the state park. I guess he knows

1591
01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:08.039
what it's doing.

1592
01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:08.199
Man.

1593
01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:09.520
I don't know if it's been there all the time,

1594
01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:11.079
does it have family members?

1595
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:11.680
I don't know.

1596
01:25:12.279 --> 01:25:14.920
But it was an experience of a lifetime. I'm into

1597
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:17.840
Bigfoot big time. I went to the I went to

1598
01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:20.800
in Tennessee to the big Foot convention over there. I

1599
01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:23.319
went to the Rocky Mountains, to the Rocky Mountains to

1600
01:25:23.479 --> 01:25:25.960
do I was working at the Rocky Mountains, but I

1601
01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:28.520
went to pictures with the carbage a big fun. I'm

1602
01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:30.680
into it, but I don't have a community that I

1603
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:34.920
could talk to and share stories. Because everybody that knows

1604
01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:38.560
me since I grow up, believe me. But everybody outside

1605
01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:42.159
the world that knows me. No, everything's come insane, So

1606
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:46.319
it's hard to reach people. And then when you talk

1607
01:25:46.399 --> 01:25:49.600
to different people from different aspects, I've gotten this allowed

1608
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:52.319
from like religious people, Ah, that's.

1609
01:25:52.319 --> 01:25:54.600
Demons and all this crap, and I'm like, man, come on, man,

1610
01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:55.359
get out of here with that.

1611
01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:55.640
Man.

1612
01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:58.319
It's not that man. There's something out there and there's

1613
01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:01.199
so many people reporting it. And then I didn't. I

1614
01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:02.560
was one of those guys on the other side of

1615
01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:04.880
it's a possibility, but there's never been a proof.

1616
01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:08.199
There's never been no actual you don't say, there's never

1617
01:26:08.319 --> 01:26:11.640
been anything solid for anybody to run with. And then

1618
01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:14.600
the thing is that now when I had my experience,

1619
01:26:14.600 --> 01:26:15.399
I don't have nothing.

1620
01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:17.760
To side it wrong with either, just a story to tell.

1621
01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:20.600
So it's hard to push it across because the people

1622
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:21.960
don't have good evidence.

1623
01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:24.439
Oh I get it.

1624
01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:27.319
Do this so that people have a place to share

1625
01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:30.560
what they experience. I appreciate you coming up, sir, and Hey,

1626
01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:33.680
is this a conversation that I can use in my

1627
01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:35.399
eight foot podcast?

1628
01:26:35.800 --> 01:26:40.279
Absolutely? Man, Yeah, what is your popucation? Check it out.

1629
01:26:40.279 --> 01:26:44.239
It's called big Foot Society. I do have one episode.

1630
01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:46.720
You would really like to hear a lot of reports

1631
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:48.720
from like Douglasville.

1632
01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:51.279
And that's the way gross bill right.

1633
01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:52.399
Yep, So it's.

1634
01:26:52.319 --> 01:26:56.079
Episode eight sixteen and that's a lot of Georgia stuff

1635
01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:56.600
in that area.

1636
01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:57.479
You'll like to listen.

1637
01:26:57.560 --> 01:26:59.920
Okay, so you give me the name again, sir, I'm sorry.

1638
01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:05.960
Just look up Big Big Society episode age sixteen and

1639
01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:08.720
it is all on YouTube. Yeah, you can find on

1640
01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:11.039
YouTube or Spotify or Apple podcast.

1641
01:27:11.479 --> 01:27:13.359
Man, I appreciate you. Let me off, man.

1642
01:27:13.439 --> 01:27:15.319
Thank you for having this community up, man, because we

1643
01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:18.199
need a platform somewhere we'll talk about this stuff.

1644
01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:20.239
All right, appreciate you coming up. You have a good one.

1645
01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:21.000
YouTube, man.

1646
01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:24.520
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1647
01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:27.840
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1648
01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:31.600
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1649
01:27:31.640 --> 01:27:34.479
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1650
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:37.760
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1651
01:27:37.800 --> 01:27:41.199
to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something

1652
01:27:41.319 --> 01:27:44.199
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

1653
01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:48.239
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled

1654
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:51.119
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

1655
01:27:51.159 --> 01:27:54.720
you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

1656
01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:58.359
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If

1657
01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:02.039
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1658
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:05.199
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1659
01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:08.760
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1660
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:12.600
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1661
01:28:12.680 --> 01:28:15.960
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1662
01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:19.000
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1663
01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:22.520
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1664
01:28:23.239 --> 01:28:26.319
or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

1665
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:29.720
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1666
01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:34.479
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1667
01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:39.680
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1668
01:28:40.319 --> 01:28:42.720
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1669
01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:43.439
carry alone.

1670
01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:49.479
And you're not alone. You've got the story, We've got

1671
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:52.159
the mic. See you in the woods.

1672
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Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot

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