Aug. 26, 2025

Lichen Fell From Its Face | Washington

Lichen Fell From Its Face | Washington
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Season 1

What happens when a retired Air Force veteran, therapist, and lifelong outdoorswoman finally faces the thing that haunted her childhood — and realizes it’s been watching her family for generations?



In this chilling and heartfelt episode, we sit down with K, who takes us from rural Louisiana and Texas to the shadowed forests of Washington. You’ll hear about Sasquatch staring through a farmhouse window, heavy breathing outside a summer trailer, a tree shaking so violently it erased all doubt, and the moment in the Olympic National Forest when lichen fell from the creature’s shoulders as it revealed itself.



From Caddo Lake to Glacier Peak, from mysterious crow-like calls to perfect circles of feathers, this is a journey of fear, trauma, healing, and a lifetime of encounters that will leave you questioning what walks among us.

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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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Tonight's account is from a retired Air Force veteran, mental

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health therapist and someone who spent her entire life in

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the woods. And this episode goes from the pine forest

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of Texas to the swamps of Louisiana, the back roads

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of Washington and the shadows of the Olympic National Forest.

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What did Kay experience throughout the years. You'll have to

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listen to her story to find out. So stay with us,

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all right, Big Fort Society, You've got the privilege of

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talking to Kay today. Kay is an individual. She is

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a mental health therapist, a retired US Air Force veteran,

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and an explorer of the wilderness. So it's a pleasure

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to have Kay on the show today. How are you doing.

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Today, Hi, I'm doing great. Thank you. It's nice to

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meet you.

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Absolutely, we're having a nice chat. Before the recording started,

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sounds like we have a lot of ground to cover.

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You've really had some interesting experiences over the years, so

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I want to make sure that you have the time

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that you need, so you know, feel free to take

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us back to where you would like to start with

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this whole conversation.

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Okay, sure, I did make a list so I could

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kind of try to keep it in the timeline in

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chronological orders. So I'll start from the early seventies. My

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first I didn't even know it was anything at the time.

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I was a child, but I was playing out in

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my uncle, aunt and uncle's guard in Texas and there's

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a lot of forest around. It's on our family property

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that's about three hundred acres and it's pretty forested. We

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usually have our trees cut down every few years, you know,

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to try to turn a profit. But the trees were

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grown at the time, and I was making mud pies

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outside with my cousins and they went inside. I stayed

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out to finish up, and I started hearing some hammering

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in the woods, and I'm like, okay, who's building something

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on the family of property? Is my first thought, because

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it sounded like they were hammering, and it just kept

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on and kept on. I think my aunt had heard that,

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and she came running to the door and she said,

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we're in here before the wood burgers get you. And

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I'm like, what is a wood boger? And she wouldn't answer.

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She made me go inside, so I went inside and

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I'm like, I'm gonna be smart. I'm gonna ask my

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dad what a wood burger is. And I did that

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and the room got silent and they looked at me,

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and I never got an answer. So that was the

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end of that. I didn't really attribute that to an

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encounter until more recently, listening to your show. That's when

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I started realizing that maybe that wasn't an encounter. When

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I was really young, probably about five or six, my

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first encounter that I remember, well, actually I didn't remember.

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It was really traumatic for me. Me and my sister

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were on the neighbor's farm in Louisiana and we were sleeping.

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It was a few feet away from the window, maybe

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about three or four feet, and they had no curtains.

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So we're sleeping there and I wake up and raise

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up home on the other side of my sister. I

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raise up and I see sasquatch in the window staring

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at me, at my sister. My sister was covered up,

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and I shook her and said, what is that? And

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she said it's nothing good to sleep. I waid back

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down and I was thinking, why would she say that?

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And finally I that's not really a word, but it's

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kind of funny. I thought, well, she's closer to the

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windows so and she's older than me. She's telling me

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it's nothing, So I'm just going to accept that and

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go back to sleep. And that was the end of

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that encounter. But I locked out out of my memory

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for several years until my sister reminded me and she

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drew a picture of it. I don't have that picture

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anywhere I can find it right now, but she drew

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a picture of what we saw. But yeah, so that

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was my first encounter, and I had nightmares about that

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for quite some years. And it's kind of funny because

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every time I watched Roote Off the Red Nose reindeer

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when I was a kid, that reminded me of that

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and just terrified me. Let's see the second time, and

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this one is the first time. I remember. It was

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about nineteen seventy eight or seventy nine. A friend of mine,

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I actually posted this one on the Texas Bigfoot Research

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Center website. Me and my friend we would we had fireworks.

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That was around the fourth of July, and we were

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popping firecrackers, yelling and listening to the echoes in the

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forest bouncing back and having a good time shooting. We

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had some four ten guns we were shooting that and anyway,

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that was during the day. At night, we went to

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bed and they didn't have air conditioner hooked up yet,

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so they'd left the windows open and we were laying

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in bed. There was a window behind me and a

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window behind my friend that was staying there. And something

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came to the window at night. And there's a lot

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of details to the site. It's probably best if you

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do go to the website and read it. But something

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came to the window and it was breathing really heavy.

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I can't imitate the sound because you could tell the

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lung capacity was just so much. I froze. I was

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a froze allid in bed. The lady that made the

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bed tucked the corners of the sheet and so tight.

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But all I could do was just kind of scoot

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over really slowly to try to get out of the bed.

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If them busted through the screen. Nothing ever happened. But

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what ended this encounter was the clock chiming in the

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other room. It stopped it. It took about three minutes

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for this to happen, and this thing vanished. I looked

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out the window that I saw nothing. There was dead

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silence during this event. Also, they had a German shepherd

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chained up outside that went under the house while this

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event was taking place. I know it was not a bear.

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I don't think there were any bears in Louisiana at

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this time, so I'm pretty certain this was a sasquatch

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at the window. This is the same location as the

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first encounter when I was watching me and my sister.

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That was my Louisiana encounters.

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Is a few things about these situations. So they're both

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in Louisiana. Were they both in the same house then?

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Now the person actually had a trailer during the first one.

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It was like one of those old nineteen fifties trailers

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that had built out of real thin wood on the

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walls and single pane windows that were really thin. Just

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think it a busted through the window if it wanted to.

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The second they had put a house on the property,

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but it was right by where the trailer was. They

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used the trailer for storage at the time, and it

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was really close and they had a little electric fence

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around the yard to keep They have some cows on

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the property. They put a little electric fence up around

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the house to keep the cows away from the house.

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Another thing that made me realize it had to have

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been a sasquatches because the German shepherd it was about

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nine months old, it was pretty tall, and it barked

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at people. If it was a person, I think it

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would have barked at them. I don't think it was

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a wild animal because of the fence, so it had

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to be something I figured that stepped over that fence

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to come to the house, and so a little couple

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of clues that I have that it was actually a

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sasquatch coming there. I didn't actually see it though, so

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on the website, I don't. It wasn't considered a classic

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a setting because of that.

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Now the first one you had actually seen it in

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the window?

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Correct did? I did? And I cannot recall exactly what

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his face looked like. I feel like I and I

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didn't remember the sighting for like thirty years until my

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sister brought it up. My mom made fun of me

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all the time if I said anything about a monster

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in the woods, and she would buy toys and make

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fun of me when she would give me the toys

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and stuff. So I really, yeah, I felt like those

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two really calls me a lot of trauma.

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Yeah, yeah, you didn't ask for that, and to be

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made fun of on top of that, And trauma is

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a real thing. People don't realize what it does to you.

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I'm sorry you had to deal with that.

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Did you ever okay, go ahead.

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Did you ever talk or did it come up with

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any of the neighbors as well in that area?

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You know when we woke up the next morning. No,

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not about the first one when it was looking in

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the window. And my sister never talked about it, and

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she only told me about it in the early two

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thousands because I had told her about my second encounter

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where it was at the window breathing through the window,

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and then she kind of said, well, don't you remember

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when it was staring at us through the window? And

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I was like no, and I said and then it

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started coming back to me a little bit. I remember

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that day we were outside, me and my sister were

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flying kites, and my kite flew away the wind was

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long and so hard and got lodged in trees in

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the woods. We were also watching the shooting stars at night,

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and then we finally went to bed, probably around ten

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thirty or eleven and then I assume it's probably around

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twelve to one or two or something when it was

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looking through the window.

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One last question about these this group, the windows that

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were in question, how high up off the ground approximately?

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Were those.

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Good to ask? Because I actually went and measured. The

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one in the trailer was probably around It wasn't that high.

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It may even four and a half to five foot

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off the ground, so the thing would have been kind

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of hunched over looking through. And when my sister drew

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the picture, she drew kind of the outline of the

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shoulders and just a pup of a head looking through

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the window, and she said it looked kind of like

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a caveman that a little bit.

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Oh man, wow. Does she still believe that she had

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a sighting? To this day?

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She doesn't talk about it. That's the only time we've

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ever discussed it. She doesn't want to talk about it.

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I get it, don't.

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Oh yeah. I mean, that's the thing listeners do not understand.

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I think, how for everything you hear on this show,

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there are a lot of people that will not go

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on air, or we get to the time when they're

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going to be interviewed and they just don't show up

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and that is okay. I'm totally fine with that because

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a lot of people are very you know, aware of

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of of their livelihood and their jobs and how that

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could affect it. And so anyone that is able to

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come on the show, I really do appreciate and never

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take that for granted that they are able to come

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on the show. But so all this so far has

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happened in the nineteen seventies, and I'm at yes, so

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nineteen seventy eight, ninety seventy nine. How what was your

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age approximately there?

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I was around thirteen, gotcha? Gotcha?

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All right? Well, yeah, feel free to thank you for

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answering my questions there, you feel free to continue with

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your accounts.

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Okay, that I had a counter in Texas, so I

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went to basic training, and I was going to be

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stationed in Germany, and I wanted to go to the

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property before going overseas. So me and my friend I

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asked him if he wanted to go hunting. I didn't

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really want to hunt, but I wanted to go out

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to the property. But I did take my dad's gun

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with me. We both went out and we both had

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a stand to sit in. While I was sitting in

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the deer stand. It was probably around five in the morning.

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It was about twenty degrees outside. I had all my

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camouflage on. I noticed something walking out of the woods

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and then walking along the tree line, and it was

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at least six foot to seven foot tall. Now I

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kind of rubbed my eyes and I'm like, am I

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really seeing this? I couldn't make out features because it

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was like a full moon night, but I could see

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the shape of a body walking in the woods on

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our family property. This is back on our family property again.

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And it just kept coming closer and closer. It didn't

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see me, so I clicked the safety off the gun

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because I mean, if it got too close, I didn't

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know what would happen. So I clicked the safety off

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the gun. As soon as I did, it started walking

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backwards and it looked over towards me. Then I just

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went and made out what I was. It spun around

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and ran into the woods, and then I saw a

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tree shaking like violently, and that kind of made me

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realize I did see something. I'm physically seeing the tree move.

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It's no longer just a shadow walking along the side

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of the trees. So the next morning I was terrified

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to come out of the trees, out of the tree stand,

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but I finally did. My friend came got me. We

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went down to look for footprints. We didn't see any footprints,

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but I could see where it went into the trees,

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and we went back to check it out to see

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if it left anything. There was weirdly, just a bucket

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hanging on the tree there, but it was full of

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pine straw, so I don't know. I think maybe my

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family had left that up there, but it did run

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in that area and it shook that big tree that

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the bucket was hanging on. We walked down to see

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where it came out of the trees, and this is

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really funny because I saw the trail where it came out.

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It looked no bigger than something a fox might use.

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I mean, the branches were totally closed down around the trail,

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but it very low to the ground. You could see

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where something has been walking in and out. I never

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would have thought something that large could have come out

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of that, which was kind of strange. And yeah, after that,

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I went over to Germany and spent some time over there.

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Stationed over there, and it was kind of boring going

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into the woods there. Other than worrying about bombs that

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have been dropped during World War Two. Yeah, no, sascotch

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there soon.

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During that time with your your hunting buddy there did

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that individual did did they see anything as well? Anything

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like that? Okay, what was the year you would say

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for that one?

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That was nineteen eighty nine. It was right before stationed overseas,

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so let's see, that would December. I don't know the

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exact date, so that.

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Puts you out around twenty four ish twenty four.

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Yeah, gotcha, that's right. I'll see.

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I just have one or two other questions about that

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during the time, the general time when you had that experience,

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was anything else weird about the woods? Were there any

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out of place sounds or lack of sounds or smells

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or anything like that.

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There no sounds there. There was a lot of deer footprints,

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but no, you know, no sounds, no deer that night. No,

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there was nothing odd about it. It was like twenty

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degrees so nothing was moving. It seemed like nothing was

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moving outside.

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Gotcha. And you said you could see the shape of

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the body kind of you couldn't really see details, but

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were there any even from the silhouette? Were there any

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details that you remember where it's like, oh, I remember

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seeing that about it, and that was like, yeah.

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Well it was basically it was kind of large, large chest.

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It slumped over just a little bit as it walked,

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and then when I picked the safety it, it's leg

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stayed straight, but its body kind of turned. It's after

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a torset, turned towards me as it walked backwards. I mean,

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it was kind of funny how quickly it walked backwards,

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I thought. But that's the only thing really that My

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family's kind of large, Like my dad was really large,

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but it seemed a little bigger than my dad. That's

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all I can remember. My dad was like six'. Four oh.

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Wow, yeah and he's so even even taller than your,

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dad because you said it was it could be six

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to seven feet. Tall that's interesting detail that you shared as,

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well because from what we know, about, uh the sasquatch

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so far is that it cannot turn its head when

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it looks to the. Side it has to turn its

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shoulders as, well, Right so that that totally makes sense

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that you would have experienced. That.

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Hmm. NOW i posted out siding ON bfro in two

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thousand and, four and one of the REASONS i. Did

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that is BECAUSE i was reading through some of the

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other sidings and hearing about the tree. SHAKING i had

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no idea that was anything at the. TIME i, mean

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this is Pre internet when that's, Happened so you, KNOW

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i wasn't aware of tree shaking and some of the wood.

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KNOCKING i wasn't aware of those things until later. On,

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well that's part of the REASON i hear Because i've

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learned a lot from your shadow just listening to other.

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People that's.

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AWESOME i, mean that is one Of it's not the

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reason THAT i started the, show but it is a

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reason that is coming to the. Forefront that people are

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learning stuff from what they're listening to and it's helping

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out other people because of, that and that's just really.

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COOL i enjoy that this this area In. Texas you,

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know we we're saying General, texas but have you ever

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looked to see if there's other encounters that are reported

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and maybe the general?

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Region oh, yeah, yeah actually THAT i think it's squatch

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floitation The bigfoot episode On Finding. Bigfoot, okay squatch. Ploitation

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that's the exact area these things. Happened and as a

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matter of, fact their town hall was in a place

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Called Big Pines, lodge which is just a few miles

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away from my family, property and there's really some good

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staging areas if if people wanted to go out and

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try to make contact With.

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Sasquatch oh, Yeah i'm looking at in a. Map it's

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literally right On Cattle. Lake, yeah, yes, absolutely, Yeah, no

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that's that is Between Cattle lake and then further to

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the west Is. Jefferson. Fantastic, yeah that makes total sense

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that that you would have that situation right there in that. Area.

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Wow. Wow. Yeah, well my grandmother ACTUALLY i skipped over this.

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ONE i didn't really have an, encounter BUT i went

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to see my grandmother in nineteen eighty. Eight it was

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before my hunting. Encounter we're sitting, there this is around six.

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PM i was starting to get evening, time and we

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heard a yell in the woods that sounded, like AND

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i don't want this sound. Bad it sounded like if

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you were watching the Old, westerns like the sounds that

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The natives or The indians would. Make the yells that

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ended sounding exactly like a. Crow AND i asked my

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grandmother and, said what is? That she, SAID i don't,

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know but every EVENING i picked my trash to the

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edge of the woods AND i take a hoe with

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me BECAUSE i feel like something's watching. Me i'm pretty

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sure something was my.

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Goodness so from WHAT i, heard WHAT i heard sound

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like almost like a war, cry and it turned into

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a crow.

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Noise, yes, MAN i have another incident In california actually

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earlier this year that was. SIMILAR i was coming, OUT

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i was traveling AND i was In california and my

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trailer AND i left my trailer BEFORE i sign, up

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closed the, door locked. It THEN i heard a crow

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behind me or an hour behind. Me it sounded real,

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deep you. KNOW i was, like, cool there's an. Owl

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and then off in another, TREE i heard another, out

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but it was like, woo AND i just. SAID i

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just stuck my hand in the air AND i, said

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you guys are. Bad AND i just walked to my

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truck and got in it and took. OFF i didn't even.

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LOOK i didn't want to. See.

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Yeah, Absolutely and that was twenty twenty, five you.

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Said, yes Around april of this.

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Year is that a Northern california or.

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It was kind of close To. Yosemite actually it wasn't

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too far from. That i'll. See i'm looking at my list.

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Here most of the other things happened In. WASHINGTON i

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did have something at the end of last summer In.

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TEXAS i can talk about. That but there's a super

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fun site On Caddo. Lake do you know what that? Is?

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LIKE i don't, actually, yeah if you could share what that.

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IS a super fun site, Is like there's different ones

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in THE, us like if the ground has been concaminated

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by a government, activity it could be, nuclear it could

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Be in this case Around Kaddo, lake it used to

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be an ammunition plant and the job of the Super

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Fun site is for them to go and do clean

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that BEFORE i guess we're turning it to the. Public

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so it's in the process of that right. Now and

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it's laid out like a piur military but it's kind

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of laid out like what we call OUR ammo. Dump

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their streets, there they're paved. Streets it almost looked like

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city blocks with no houses on. IT i was driving

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through there AND i heard a really large lamb brake

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And i've come over time to learn that's them just

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saying get out of. HERE i, said, Okay i'm, leaving

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AND i drove. Away but then WHEN i turned around

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and came, BACK i saw and one of the trees

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stuck in the ground upside. DOWN i wasn't very, big

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it's only about five foot, tall BUT i thought it

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kind of. ODD i did see. That. ALSO i was

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trying to go see my land walking back into the,

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woods but it's really bad and. MUDDY i couldn't get back.

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There in my, nephew my nephew's. WIFE i don't know

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if she would be, considered but, anyway my nephew's wife

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was walking with me back, there and she was telling

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me about an event her husband had where he was

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followed out of the woods and when he went back

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the next, day a perfect circle was left in like

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sticks in the area where he heard the. Noise, well

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she was walking with me this day AND i, said,

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yeah there's you, Know i've seen something back. HERE i

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was telling her about, that about the hunting, incident and

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as we came, back a, chicken one of her chickens

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had been snatched up and the feathers were left in

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a perfect, circle and it was really. ODD i tried

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to contact my cousin after that and she didn't talk to.

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Me so they don't talk about this. Stuff SO i

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think maybe she got upset THAT i had mentioned anything about.

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It probably scared the poor. Girl, oh, absolutely to see

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her chicken snatched. It probably not. Kid and, yeah YOU'RE

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i was hyping to move back on my.

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Property but IT'S i, mean that area just has so

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Much it has a, rich rich history of bigfoot activity

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in The Cattle lake. Area for, sure your grandma in

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nineteen eighty eight you were talking about did it did

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she ever share like any did she ever have any

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sightings in that area or just like she was ready

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for something with that garden hoe just in, case.

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She was just ready to protect. Herself he went and

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talk about. It my dad has told me stories about

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things that happened. Though, YEAH i MEAN i can discuss

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that if you would.

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Like, yeah, ABSOLUTELY i, MEAN i know it's anything that

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you feel comfortable. Sharing it's, uh, okay definitely go, Ahead, okay.

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Sure. YEAH i was doing a bio my dad WHEN

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i was in middle school and he started telling me

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ABOUT i think one of the QUESTIONS i asked him

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the scaredest moments of his, life and he told me

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about being followed out of the woods on the family.

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Property what else did he tell? Me, oh he would

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see things out of the window at, night like going

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to the Family it was a pond out. There they

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also had a. Barn it would go to the barn.

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Sometimes he said he'd always see the thing going between

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the barn and the pond at night through his. Window

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but that's the only thing he shared it with that

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he did tell me about my. Cousins they used to

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live in the old family house on the, property and

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there was a huge. Door this is like a house

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that was built in the twenties or, thirties and they

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had a huge front. Door they believed the front door

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represented the. Family you, know you have a fabulous front.

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Door so they had a huge one with the glass

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over the top of, it and my aunt and uncle

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saw the top of something's head over the, glass and

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this is probably at least seven foot. Up they see

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the top of something's head and something wiggled the door. Handle,

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also my cousin was trying to get rid of some

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raccoons that were eating the feed in the, barn so

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he slept up in the loft one night and this

464
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.920
thing came in the barn with. Him that's ALL i

465
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:27.279
heard from my dad about, it, Though, wow that would

466
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:28.799
be interesting that's that's.

467
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.799
Incredible so you're saying that it came in the barn

468
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:37.599
with him per his? Account, yes, oh, MAN i that's

469
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.880
that is that is. Wild have you ever talked to

470
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:43.279
that cousin directly about?

471
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:46.839
That, no WHEN i was a little, kid he was

472
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:50.359
already in his twenties and he moved. OFF i never

473
00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:52.319
really got to meet him. Much.

474
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:58.599
Gotcha so all these accounts on the same, property what

475
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:03.880
years would this? Span are we talking forty fifty years.

476
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.680
OR i would, think, well my dad was born in nineteen,

477
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:12.279
forty so probably in the forties started and THEN i

478
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:16.000
mean last, YEAR i don't, know you can consider it

479
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:20.079
a sighting Or bigfoot related if you want to, say

480
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:27.279
the chicken being snatched. Up it was really. Odd but,

481
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:31.240
yeah so, wow so quite some time really it could.

482
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:36.200
Go we're talking about potentially eighty years if we're going

483
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:37.440
forties to last.

484
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:39.640
Year but, yeah we round about. There.

485
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:44.559
Wow so that's that's pretty. Fascinating and that is.

486
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.880
That i'm sure that properties are around there also experienced

487
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.640
this stuff. Too, oh without a. Doubt people they're tight

488
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:55.720
lipped about. It they really are a million Are.

489
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.839
It's a, thing you, Know AND i experienced that WHEN

490
00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:04.519
i got into the. Field WHEN i went out In

491
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:08.960
oregon AND i was driving through these small mountain, towns

492
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.960
people do not want to talk and they want you

493
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.640
out of, there and which is absolutely. Fine probably didn't

494
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:23.720
help THAT i Had california rental plates on two, Anyways

495
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.039
so you were saying that you also had some interesting

496
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:28.559
things happen In washington as.

497
00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:34.319
Well, yes and you, KNOW i DON'T i think this is,

498
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.920
well the very first ONE i was with my, daughter

499
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.599
and this could have been a. Hoax AND i will

500
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.680
admit if something could be a. Hoax we were driving

501
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:50.440
From fort to The Whole, rainforest so it was a long.

502
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:54.400
ROAD i guess it's about twenty miles of forest before

503
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:56.839
you get to the whole, rainforest and that's h oh

504
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.759
if you're ever interested In it's like one of the

505
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.160
only rainforests In. America so we wanted to go see.

506
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:08.119
It we're driving. There, unfortunately The Olympic peninsula is a

507
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.400
lot bigger than you, expect so it took us a long.

508
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.200
Time it was already dark when we got. There we

509
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.359
were driving along and we came up to a curve

510
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.279
in the road and my headlights were shining into the.

511
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.960
Woods and we saw a figure that was brown from

512
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.680
head to. Toe it jumped against the tree like it

513
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:32.680
was trying to hide by jumping against the. Tree, MIKE i,

514
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.720
said did you see that to my? Daughter and she, said,

515
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:40.680
yeah it's a guy in a brown coat brown pants sighting.

516
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:46.559
It and this is In. July SO i, said you

517
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:48.400
think it's a hoax and she, said, yeah it was,

518
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.720
somebody somebody dressed, Up so you, know maybe it was a.

519
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:55.119
Hoax but it's really kind of odd and there was

520
00:31:55.160 --> 00:32:00.839
not a lot of cars on the. Road, yeah it

521
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:02.480
was kind of a weird encounter.

522
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:05.480
That really Makes that's one of those things, where, yeah

523
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.119
it makes you wonder because it's, like it could be

524
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:12.039
a guy that's just messing with, people or you, KNOW

525
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.119
i think you could have actually seen. Something what approximate

526
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:17.759
year was did that take place?

527
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:22.119
In this was twenty, seventeen, okay.

528
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:30.039
Gotcha and then at around twenty, twenty me and my

529
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.599
friend were Around darrington and we were traveling the forest.

530
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:39.079
ROAD i had a jeep and we went down this.

531
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.960
Road it was starting to get more, narrow so we

532
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:44.160
found a turnout and we were turning, back but we

533
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.599
had to do like a five point, turn AND i

534
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.519
put it in reverse and backed. Up i'm just about

535
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.920
ready to go, straight BUT i needed to back up

536
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.200
a couple more. Times SO i put it in reverse

537
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.839
And i'm watching the camera and something passes behind the.

538
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:03.039
CAMERA i could only see it look like from the

539
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:06.519
waist to the knee, down but something passed by the.

540
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.279
Camera AND i told my, FRIEND i, said something's behind.

541
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:11.680
US i moved forward AND i put it in reverse,

542
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.319
again And i'm backed, up and then she started screaming

543
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:18.400
at me because she saw it, Too and, yeah and you,

544
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:21.680
know she's willing to probably talk to you if you.

545
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:27.440
Wanted BUT i, mean we couldn't definitively say that this

546
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.200
was a, sasquatch but it was really. Weird the only

547
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:31.920
THING i could think it could be is maybe a

548
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.960
large bird flapping its wings and kind of an angle

549
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:40.880
that a leg. Is BUT i don't. KNOW i don't

550
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.319
think it was anybody, hoaxed and there's no cars up

551
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:46.599
there or anything, Sure SO i was trying to get some.

552
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:49.559
PHOTOS i do. PHOTOGRAPHY i think we talked about that,

553
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:54.440
before you, know before we started, recording AND i was

554
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.400
trying to get pictures of what's the name of the

555
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.720
Peak Glacier, peak which is kind of. Hidden it's hard

556
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:03.920
to really See Glacier peak unless you want to, hike

557
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.039
AND i take my FAT i do drone, photography SO

558
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.719
i was flying my drone trying to get some photos

559
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.159
Of Glacier peak at the.

560
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:18.960
Time so this this friend that you had in the

561
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:23.320
car with. You did she? Then how did she get

562
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:24.960
a look at? It was it also in the background

563
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:26.800
back backup camera or was?

564
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:33.239
It, yes, OKAY i have a habit when something scares

565
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.000
me like, THAT i don't even want to. KNOW i

566
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:40.519
just move. Forward SO i didn't look in my rearview.

567
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.519
MIRROR i didn't want to. SEE i just wanted to

568
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:44.159
get out of.

569
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.880
There so absolutely that was going to kind of Be

570
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.519
my follow up is that after that, happened then did

571
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:52.239
you get out of there as quick as you?

572
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:58.039
Can or, yes, yeah, okay. Gotcha. Mhm emily laughed about.

573
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:02.119
It of course afterwards she's here the living daylights out

574
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:07.280
of me by screaming in my ear about. It it

575
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.800
doesn't startle me as. MUCH i will see these things,

576
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:16.480
anymore but for other people it. Does and, yeah my

577
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.079
perception of this was this was a juvenile side squatch

578
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:24.360
trying to show. Off my next sighting was really cool

579
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.159
AND i feel LIKE i was communicating with now on miss.

580
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:31.280
Sighting this is in twenty twenty. One it's a lake

581
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:36.559
on the. PENINSULA i won't disclose the. LOCATION i got

582
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.960
to the site AND i had just gotten The Starlink

583
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.280
internet satellite back back then AND i was trying it,

584
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:47.280
out SO i. Stopped it was kind of a, clearing

585
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:48.760
but there was a lot of brush on the side

586
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:51.280
of the trees and it was A douglas fur. TREE

587
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.400
i wanted to take some photos of The douglas fur,

588
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.599
tree BUT i stopped and WHEN i got out to

589
00:35:56.639 --> 00:36:00.360
set at The starlink art some rustling around than the,

590
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.920
brush AND i started talking to. IT i, Said i'm

591
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:06.000
just here to take pictures of the tree over here

592
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:10.840
and to test my. Equipment out called it THAT i

593
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:15.079
heard no other. Sounds for a, WHILE i flew my.

594
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:18.559
DRONE i took some pictures of The douglas fur but

595
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:20.679
then WHEN i started flying, BACK i noticed that there's

596
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.519
snows still on top of the mountains and the lake

597
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.199
and the fore. Ground SO i was, like, oh that

598
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:28.960
w make a lovely. Photo SO i turned my drone

599
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.679
and started flying over, there and THEN i heard some

600
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.920
stomping on the ground boom, boom, boom And i'm, like, okay, okay,

601
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.480
OKAY i will bring it. Back SO i brought my

602
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:40.800
dram back and it. STOPPED i heard nothing else the

603
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.920
whole TIME i was, There SO i feel they do

604
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:50.440
have some level or ability to communicate and understand. Us

605
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.119
the end of the. Brush let me tell you about the.

606
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.960
Brush it's kind of about six foot. Tall it's kind

607
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:00.360
of a it almost looks like. Reeds it's like a

608
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.400
tan color In Washington. State you, know if you have a,

609
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:06.960
clearing it seems like the brush just gets really out

610
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.840
of hand and. TALL i felt like the hide in that,

611
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:16.199
stuff it, seems and that comes into play in another

612
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:20.039
ENCOUNTER i had in a few. Minutes but let's, SEE

613
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:22.760
i did got a lake cornault AND i had a

614
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.400
really weird. Encounter you can't even call it in an,

615
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:32.079
encounter but something strange. HAPPENED i wanted to see how

616
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:36.039
tall The douglas fir trees. There they're like the, tallest

617
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.559
some of the tallest in the, nation like three hundred feet.

618
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:42.400
Tall SO i wanted to take my drone and measure

619
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:46.719
the height of the. Tree SO i saw one in the.

620
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:48.599
Forest SO i parked on the side of the road

621
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.519
and went, in AND i noticed there was a stump

622
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.880
near there that was really. LARGE a large tree had

623
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:57.719
been cut down, there and there was some brush around

624
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.719
it and, everything BUT i, mean this stump was big

625
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:05.719
enough to park a large truck. On it was pretty good. Size, well,

626
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.880
Anyway i'm finding my drone up to the top of the.

627
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:12.559
Tree it was two hundred something. Feet THEN i landed

628
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.239
the drone and then in my HEAD i had a

629
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.760
clear dog get out of, here AND i mean almost

630
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.039
LIKE i could hear. It it was that clear in my.

631
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.480
Head And i'm, like, oh, Okay i'm just taking. Photos

632
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.800
and THEN i heard what's? THAT i, said this just

633
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.239
a drone AND i said it, verbally it's just a.

634
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.719
Drone and then he said AND i, SAID i was

635
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.920
measuring the, tree just looking at the, tree and they, said,

636
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:44.880
okay go, ahead AND i, said like they were giving

637
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.880
me permission to fly it, again And i'm, like, No i'm.

638
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:53.559
LEAVING i don't know about Mind speaker or anything like.

639
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.199
That i've not really subscribed to, that but that was

640
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.000
really odd to have those. FEELINGS i don't know if

641
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.239
there's just there on the back of the neck like

642
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.119
you're indeeder leave right. Now but then when they realized

643
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.360
WHAT i was, doing they felt comfortable with. That it

644
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.960
that WAS i don't know if that's the weirdest encounter

645
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.960
That i've, had and that was Around Lake. QUINAULT i

646
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.960
have never seen anything, there but that, Was, yeah that

647
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:29.320
was very struggling to. Me then my last, encounter, actually,

648
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.320
now let me tell you the other. ONE i think

649
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:36.239
it was in twenty twenty. TWO i was driving Between

650
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:40.119
Mount Saint helens and, uh let's SEE i throw down

651
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:42.960
that road. NUMBER i can tell you the actual forest road.

652
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:47.599
NUMBER i was driving between or Behind Mount Saint helens

653
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.079
And Mount. ADAMS i was driving between, that going from

654
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.639
the north side to the south side on some of

655
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:57.159
the forest, roads AND i actually camped in there. Overnight

656
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.599
but WHEN i, STOPPED i was trying to get some

657
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:03.519
pictures of the. Mountain this was still during the, daytime

658
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:06.719
AND i heard a very large limb. Snap the limb

659
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.639
must have been at least two inches stick because it's

660
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:14.400
a very hefty, snap AND i knew that it was,

661
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:18.360
WELL i felt it was sasquatch telling me to leave

662
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:21.679
and move on AND i, said, Okay i'm, leaving and

663
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:23.960
then it started coming down the hill towards. Me and

664
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:27.320
THEN i do carry SOMETIMES i carry a. FIREARM i

665
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:31.920
grabbed the firearm and then it stopped and that was

666
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.880
the LAST i had. THERE i did camp overnight out there.

667
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.079
Afterwards that was Around Eight canyon.

668
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:42.239
Area oh, wow so you were you were camping around

669
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:43.039
the Eight canyon.

670
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:48.639
Area, yes, wow And. SUNNY i do all these things

671
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:54.079
along BECAUSE i do most of these things along because

672
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:55.679
WHEN i go out with someone And i'm trying to

673
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:58.119
take photos and, stuff it kind OF i feel Like

674
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.280
i'm also SOMETIMES i have to watch out for. Them

675
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:04.800
i've spent a lot of times in time in the

676
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.639
woods from WHEN i was a child and, now and

677
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.480
sometimes people do things That i'm, like, hey don't, go

678
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.920
don't go over. There there're you, know mountain lions and

679
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:20.159
things like. That so being mindful of. THINGS i, mean

680
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.599
you wouldn't go in the ocean if there's great whites

681
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.360
when in, There so you got to be careful in

682
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:31.679
the forest. Too there's things out there that can harm, you.

683
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.079
Oh one hundred. Percent AND i think that's an important

684
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:36.760
thing to bring, up is you, know people are going

685
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.159
to go out looking for bigfoot in these. Areas these

686
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:43.440
areas are very unforgiving and you've got to be you,

687
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:47.400
know worast case, scenario you, know prepared for other predators as,

688
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.239
Well like there are cougars out there and they can

689
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.320
really come right after you and not, care so you

690
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:56.480
have to be prepared for. That So i'm glad that

691
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.639
you know you are prepared and you have your you,

692
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:03.960
know military, backgrounds SO i definitely are prepared with the right,

693
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:05.760
Gear so that is good to.

694
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:11.039
HEAR i try, to BUT i do always end up

695
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.079
because people have asked to go out with me that

696
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.320
WHEN i usually go out And i'm. It you, know

697
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:18.559
WHEN i was driving my, JEEP i got some pretty

698
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:21.320
narrow roads on some shelf, roads and there's a lot

699
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.559
of people that don't want to do. That so, Yeah

700
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.639
i'm trying to be mindful of. It IF i go

701
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:29.880
with someone who's not gonna want to do these, things

702
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:33.679
that it's going to really prevent me from getting the

703
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:37.079
photos and things THAT i. Want SO i try to

704
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.840
let people know Where i'm, going but you, know SOMETIMES

705
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:45.199
i take a turn That i'm not supposed to by

706
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.000
the way that the limb BREAK i got at The

707
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:50.679
Super fun site was approximately it sounded like a two inch,

708
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.599
Limb so it's, like if you hear a good hefty limb,

709
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:57.840
break then there's a chance it could be. SASQUATCHED i

710
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.159
was listening to your show this morning AND i heard

711
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:03.119
you know that they like. MUSIC i don't know what

712
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.920
episode it, was but if you play rock and roll,

713
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.280
role they might leave you. Alone ALL i tried that.

714
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.719
Before that didn't. WORK i Played hollie To hell by

715
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:16.079
MAYBE i can't say, that but by a, group and

716
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:19.119
something was coming towards me When i'm playing, that So i'm, like,

717
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.679
OKAY i turned it up a little, louder but it

718
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:24.559
still was, coming SO i turned it. Off that didn't.

719
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:27.360
Work SO i don't know if music is the way

720
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:29.679
to keep the thing away from.

721
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:33.840
You it's it's a really interesting topic that does get

722
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:37.239
brought up every once in a, while and that's interesting

723
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:43.440
that that particular song had that had that effect. THERE

724
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.519
a lot of people think it might have to do

725
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.519
with the beat of this. SONG a lot of there

726
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.079
was let's, See Henry farnzoni used to use the Song

727
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:59.960
ballero because the type of beat it had was supposed

728
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:06.079
very effective in bringing in the. Sasquatch so take that

729
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:10.039
for entertainment uses, Only but, yeah that does come up

730
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:11.000
on the show every once in a.

731
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:16.159
While What i've, actually you, know What i've been doing

732
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.880
lately is not trying, music but talking to the forest

733
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:25.320
as a, therapist doing forest, bathing which is just being

734
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:29.239
present in the moment in the. Forest it's very relaxing

735
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:34.360
and being mindful of the things you're. DOING i think

736
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.800
that is communicating a lot to the. Sasquatch when you

737
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:42.039
go out and they see you not you, know cutting

738
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:46.440
down a tree or with a firearm on your, side they,

739
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:52.519
THEY i don't, KNOW i guess respect that some and

740
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.920
probably more likely to have a citing iss you are

741
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.960
out there and actually conversing with the. Forest.

742
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.719
Okay that is something THAT i did try WHEN i

743
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.079
was out in the woods in Oak ridge this time

744
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.280
down In, oregon BECAUSE i was, like you, Know i've

745
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:11.400
never tried, THIS i just want to try. It AND

746
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.519
i was in an area up there AND i, said

747
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:19.800
what DID i, say if if you're, here can you

748
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.559
let me? Know AND i would say a few seconds

749
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:31.800
after words about how maybe thirty yards into the woods

750
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.480
heard a you, know triple. KNOCK i was, Like, oh

751
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:37.679
that's that's. Weird that's really. Weird SO i was, Like

752
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.760
i'm gonna try it. Again did the same thing again

753
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:41.800
WHERE i actually said it out, loud and then there

754
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:46.159
was return knocks a few seconds. Later very very. Strange

755
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:49.039
but it might be SOMETHING i start to do more.

756
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:57.280
Myself, yeah that would be. GREAT i, SEE i have

757
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.320
one more sighting AND i think it was the most

758
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.960
meaningful That i've ever. Had it was my last, one

759
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:10.360
and it was in The Olympic National forest AND i

760
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:16.039
went AND i was going to take some pictures of some.

761
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:18.360
LIKING i saw some liking on the. Ground it's like

762
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:23.280
in some places on The Olympic, peninsula the liking just

763
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:27.079
blankets to the ground like a. Carpet and if you

764
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.039
ever were able to go out and walk barefooted on

765
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:33.800
it or anything like, that it's. Amazing it's like a shag.

766
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:37.519
Carpet SO i was trying to get out and take

767
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:41.360
pictures of, that but THEN i noticed a. Footprint it

768
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.280
could have just been a person's. Footprint it was a

769
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:46.840
pretty large, one probably about fifteen inches, long AND i

770
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.880
took a photo of. IT i went to the. FOREST

771
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.159
i saw THAT i was taking some, pictures AND i

772
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.800
started telling sasquatch or talking to the, forest, saying you,

773
00:46:55.840 --> 00:47:00.760
KNOW i want to protect. You you, KNOW i Feel

774
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.719
i've seen some of the damage from, clearcutting how it

775
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.320
just drains the moisture out of the. Land WHEN i

776
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:11.320
would be driving All mountaineer where they clearcut you could

777
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:15.400
just see the water just pouring out from the. Roots

778
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.119
and you, KNOW i was talking to the forest, Saying

779
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.480
i'm sorry we cut all your trees, down and you

780
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.320
KNOW i shouldn't. HAVE i guess apologized for, that BUT

781
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:29.840
i do realize that we try to turn a profit from,

782
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:35.159
things AND i was just explaining, that AND i took my.

783
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:38.920
Photos THEN i got in my truck And i'm starting

784
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:41.800
to drive away AND i look over to the right

785
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:46.559
AND i can see the mountains between the, trees but

786
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.960
from like a huge rock, THERE i see a sasquatch pop.

787
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.360
Up he popped his head up and he was like

788
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:58.400
his fur was kind of gray color and his scam was,

789
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:03.039
tan and he was doing like a push up, physician

790
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:06.199
like he had his arms out to his side pushing himself.

791
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:11.400
Up his head was kind of wlocky looking on a square,

792
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:13.679
shape but he had liking on his head and liking

793
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:18.480
on his, shoulder and the liking was falling off as

794
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:21.559
he was coming. Up AND i looked at him for

795
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.159
about two, seconds AND i was already starting to move

796
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:26.159
in my, truck SO i looked ahead to see WHERE

797
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:27.519
i was and make SURE i was on the, road

798
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:32.960
AND i looked back again and it was. Gone, Afterwards

799
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:36.000
i'm driving down the road for a couple of miles

800
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.079
AND i come up to a place where there's a

801
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:43.360
bunch of birch trees and they kind of covered the

802
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:47.159
forest roads make it almost look like a, tunnel AND

803
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.039
i wanted to get some photos of, that SO i

804
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.519
stopped my, truck and as soon AS i, did a

805
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.079
deer at the about a quarter mile away up, ahead

806
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:57.880
seen out of the, woods turned around and looked back

807
00:48:57.920 --> 00:48:59.679
in the woods like it wanted to go back in,

808
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:02.719
there but it was scared to. WELL i kind of

809
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:06.760
got a sense that it had followed, me SO i

810
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.280
took my drone and a lot of the brush was back.

811
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:11.400
There it was kind of, high like six foot, tall

812
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:14.519
kind of like the BRUSH i told you about and

813
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.559
that other encounter WHERE i was communicating with them WHILE

814
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:19.280
i took my drone AND i flew it. OVER i

815
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.039
was going to make sure there was none in there

816
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.519
BEFORE i was taking. PHOTOS i didn't want anything to

817
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:26.039
pop out on. Me SO i was flying it. Over

818
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.639
the deer was still standing, there looking into the woods

819
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:31.800
like it wanted to go back out out in the.

820
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:34.719
WOODS i think maybe it had a fawn in there or. Something,

821
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:38.800
well it started coming towards. Me the deer was just

822
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:42.480
walking towards, me and it got real. Close And i've

823
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:44.280
seen what deer can do when they were up and

824
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.559
hit you with your. Hoofs SO i grabbed a hunting

825
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.400
knife AND i, SAID i, pointed AND i, pointed AND i,

826
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:54.440
said go that's kind of they get. Away and so

827
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:55.800
it walked back to where it came out of the,

828
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:58.119
woods looked at the. Woods then it turned around and

829
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.519
went to the other side of the, road And i'm, like,

830
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:05.559
Okay i'm. Leaving SO i got my. TRUCK i took,

831
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:09.679
off AND i felt like it was following me in

832
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.559
the woods AS i was. DRIVING i just kept going

833
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:17.039
and got out of. There, so which is really odd

834
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:18.800
because that meant it would have been running through the

835
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:20.039
woods that are like twenty miles an.

836
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.840
Hour really this has affected your entire, life you, know

837
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.519
going back to when you were a very young child

838
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:30.239
and you finally are able to you, know have that that.

839
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:34.480
Sighting how did you feel during that sighting and then

840
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:36.679
and right after? It how did that affect you?

841
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:46.199
Emotionally, DAD i don't. Know it's LIKE i kind of

842
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:48.280
felt like it was trying to communicate with, me because

843
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:51.039
the thing, IS i was taking pictures of the lock

844
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.440
in and AS i look over AND i see this

845
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:55.360
thing come up with like and falling off of, IT

846
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:58.599
i think it was acknowledging the fact that that's WHAT

847
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:02.840
i was, doing and it was allowing me to see.

848
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:06.519
IT i felt like it was intentional on its, part

849
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:11.159
and typically they. DO i think if you see, them

850
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:15.159
it's on their. Terms USUALLY i Think i've gotten a

851
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.480
drop on them, before but it's typically they're allowing you

852
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:21.679
to see. It like WHEN i had a gun in my,

853
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:23.880
HAND i THINK i got to drop on. It it

854
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:28.400
didn't KNOW i was. There but normally they can be

855
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:30.599
standing just a few feet off the trail and you

856
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:33.440
walk beside them and you won't even know they're. There

857
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:40.199
they usually hide in the weeds or the reeds and

858
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.280
In louisiana And. Texas Around Keddow, lake there's a lot

859
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:47.360
of long leaf pines and sometimes you can drive along

860
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:50.039
and if you see a dead pine tree that's tan

861
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.440
with a bunch of tan long leaf long leaves on,

862
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:56.760
it it looks like. Fur, SO i mean they can

863
00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:00.559
easily hide in that. Stuff you won't even know that. There.

864
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:06.760
INTERESTING i know that a lot of people will have

865
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.039
really different responses after they have that first, sighting and

866
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:17.000
it goes FROM i want to have a sighting, again

867
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.199
or NOW i know they're real AND i can't go

868
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.320
back into the woods AND i never want to see that.

869
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:27.679
Again where would you put yourself on you, know was

870
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:31.000
it more closer to the let's have another sighting or

871
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:34.280
more close to, like, yeah this is totally freaked me.

872
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:39.360
OUT i Mean i'll still go in the. Forest but

873
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.320
here's WHAT i typically, do and my friends have COMMON

874
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.039
i just LIKE i usually don't leave my truck too far.

875
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:50.440
Away so my friends asked me to do a several

876
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:53.519
day hike And i'm, like, NO i don't know about,

877
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:58.519
that but if you want to go AM i jeep

878
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.519
to some bag list of, Places i'm fine with that

879
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.599
BECAUSE i can get in it and take off and you,

880
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:06.199
know if it wants to come and pound on my

881
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.880
vehicle or, whatever then we'll take care of that incident

882
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:13.599
when it. Happens you, know IF i carry a, firearm you,

883
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:16.000
KNOW i read The Daniel boone account AND i would

884
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:19.920
do the same that he did with shooting in the. Face.

885
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:27.360
YEAH i think, that you, know the way that you

886
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.039
view things as is a good middle ground where if

887
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:34.000
if it happens where you have to protect, yourself you

888
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:38.320
are more than able to do so and able to do.

889
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:41.679
That but it's not a thing where you are actively

890
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:43.239
going out into the woods and you're, Like, Okay i'm

891
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.119
going to take take this out and you know put

892
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:47.760
it INTO. Cm, no we're not going to do.

893
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:54.599
That, yeah but, NO i don't advocate for killing. ONE i,

894
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:57.360
mean do we really need to kill one to prove it's?

895
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.360
There can we do it a different? WAY i think we.

896
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:05.360
Can you, know it just takes willingness to lower your

897
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:09.320
guard to go out and speak to this thing through the.

898
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:14.960
Forest if you communicate your intent and be truthful about,

899
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:19.639
IT i think it will stew. ITSELF i won't also

900
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:23.519
mention the fire was kind OF i have kind of

901
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:26.559
developed a theory even before this that maybe either a

902
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:32.599
fur is either translucent or potentially can change color like

903
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:36.440
an octopus can change, color or other animals can do

904
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:44.840
so to confuse our. VISION i think it's very possible that,

905
00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:48.960
that you, know that's because the fur looked kind of

906
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.920
odd to. Me it's kind of a gray, color but

907
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:54.039
almost like a translucent.

908
00:54:54.119 --> 00:55:00.280
Gray that that is really. INTERESTING i think that the

909
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:10.119
normal human does not realize how incredible even just the

910
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:14.239
animals of this world are and what they can. Do for,

911
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.679
EXAMPLE i just learned about a new frog the other

912
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.800
day On National geographic called THE i think glass, frog

913
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:23.960
and what it does is it takes all of it's

914
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:26.400
almost all of its blood and puts it into its

915
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:30.400
liver so that it becomes almost translucent to hide from.

916
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:33.039
Predators crazy, stuff.

917
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:36.280
Right So i've never heard of.

918
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.840
That, yes it's you check it. Out it's a wild.

919
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:43.559
One but that being, said as you, mentioned like the,

920
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:48.239
octopus there are so, many you, know things that are

921
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:52.239
in the natural world that can do weird. STUFF i

922
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.920
don't think it's out of the question that that bigfoot

923
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:57.559
can do some some weird stuff to hide as. WELL

924
00:55:57.679 --> 00:55:59.599
i don't, know maybe maybe someday we'll be able to

925
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:00.400
figure that out for.

926
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:08.320
Sure but, yeah absolutely. Absolutely let's, SEE i do have

927
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:12.840
MY BFRs siding is the sighting numbers eighty one oh. Seven,

928
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:17.400
okay if you're ever interested wants you're trying to find

929
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:22.760
the forest roads THAT i had wrote those. Down, okay

930
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.039
someone that ever wants to, GO i, mean if they

931
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:27.320
snap lombs on me And i'll give their location away

932
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:31.239
and there we go the. Road, Okay So Forest road

933
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:34.840
twenty five and that goes Between Mount Saint helens And Mount.

934
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:40.400
Adams it's some of the most remote areas that you're

935
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:41.119
going to find in THE.

936
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:46.880
Us how long does it take to make that trip

937
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:49.880
across From Mount Saint helens To adams on that?

938
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:57.360
Road let's. SEE i started probably around noon and didn't

939
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:03.719
finish until the next, morning SO i stayed overnight AND

940
00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:08.199
i went from there down to The Lahar. Reviewpoint it

941
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:11.039
was actually a nice area, there and that's really close

942
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:14.400
to Eight, canyon and also Eight cave is near there,

943
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:18.960
too Which i've read about A k Eight. Cave it's

944
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:22.159
from WHAT i read in the, past it was like

945
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:25.760
named after a Boy scout troop And i'm, like, yeah

946
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:31.079
but why were the Boy scouts named eight, exactly so

947
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:36.440
kind of blows a hole in that. Story but the

948
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.960
place WHERE i think would really make if you can

949
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:42.199
get in there a good staging area In texas is

950
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:49.000
The Longhorn Army Ammo. Plant you've got a Great Star

951
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:53.320
ranch is right On Caddo lake with just be careful

952
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:56.880
if you go out, there don't steal the. Moss if

953
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.920
people listen decide to go To Star, ranch don't steal

954
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:03.719
moss from the. Trees once you tear it off to

955
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:06.840
take home, it you, know it doesn't replace that. Quickly

956
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.960
so there's some beautiful moss on the trees out, there

957
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:14.199
AND i think that also helps them hide.

958
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:19.639
To, now is that an area that's open to the

959
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:20.679
public or.

960
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:24.760
It Is nobody goes out there, either WHICH i think

961
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:28.960
that's why it's been kept so. Beautiful it is through

962
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:32.320
The Army Ammo, plant and they could close the gates,

963
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:37.480
eventually you, know if people started destroying the. Stuff but but,

964
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:41.199
yeah IT'S i, mean it's a really large. Area nobody

965
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:45.119
goes in. There it's very kind of gives you a remote.

966
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:48.519
Feeling and you do have late access there, too like

967
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:49.880
if you wanted to kayak or.

968
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:56.639
Whatnot that's that's pretty. Cool something definitely to check. Out you,

969
00:58:56.679 --> 00:58:59.440
know as, always any any area that's talked about on the,

970
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:02.840
show do you do diligence to check it out before

971
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:07.559
you just go and be prepared for. Anything really make

972
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:09.280
sure you have stuff with.

973
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:11.119
You there's a lot of bogs back there.

974
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:13.760
Too, yeah, gotcha, gotcha lot of.

975
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:17.239
Bogs, okay you.

976
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:22.800
Have had some just incredible stuff happened over the, years

977
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:27.000
and it's cool how you've been able to check out

978
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:31.960
bigfoot activity in different areas of THE. Us would you

979
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:36.519
say that there's a part of THE us that you've

980
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:40.519
been focusing on that probably has a better chance of

981
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:44.840
having bigfoot activity or has it been pretty much steady

982
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:45.679
in all the different.

983
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:52.239
Areas, no you, Know i've not really been focused on finding.

984
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:57.440
SASQUATCH i would think the AREA i told you, about

985
00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:01.119
like if you did more to go and use to

986
01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:05.320
search as maybe our team or, something The Star ranch.

987
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:11.320
Area but What i've noticed is like different areas you've

988
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:17.079
got different attitudes from these. Things Like, louisiana you're going

989
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:21.360
to have a little more aggressive. Nature some of them

990
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:23.679
they're a little more. Elusive they don't want to be,

991
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:29.519
seen so they're a little smaller. Too the ones In,

992
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:35.880
washington the ones especially on the, peninsula are very respectful

993
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.760
of your. Space AND i, think if you, know if,

994
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:44.519
SOMEBODY i think those two areas are probably the best

995
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:50.760
out Of Lake area from What i've, SEEN i would

996
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:54.920
go there Or. Washington The olympics Go Olympic National. Park

997
01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:57.840
i've never really felt that they were in the park.

998
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:01.400
Itself maybe on the. Corners i'm sure it's safer their

999
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:04.280
front for. Them you can go in The Olympic National

1000
01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:06.119
park and the deer will just come up right. Up

1001
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:08.639
they won't eat out of your hand if you wanted them,

1002
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.679
to BUT i would caution against. That they're pretty light

1003
01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:18.239
and the, older so just be. CAREFUL a girl two

1004
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:22.880
weeks ago it was attacked by cougar up. THERE i

1005
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.400
actually was going to The National park that day and

1006
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.320
they as soon AS i got, there they closed the

1007
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:31.280
gates because the girl was. Attacked oh my, god and

1008
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:35.760
she did. Survive that was like two weeks. Ago it's

1009
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.079
been all over the news. Here oh.

1010
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:42.480
Wow you never you always got to be. Prepared you

1011
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:46.119
never know what you're going to run into out. There And,

1012
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:50.360
kay it's been a enjoyable. CONVERSATION i want to make

1013
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.719
sure that you were able to talk about everything that

1014
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:56.480
you had come to the show today with.

1015
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:01.360
Just about you, KNOW i did want to touch on

1016
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:04.639
like the trauma that this can induce and, Cause LIKE

1017
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:09.280
i used to have nightmares for this speaking to if

1018
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:13.800
you do, therapy speaking to a therapist about this can be.

1019
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:17.000
Important it can help you work through to the traumas of.

1020
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:23.159
This i've had a therapist WHERE i mentioned That i've

1021
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:26.119
seen this and they wanted to refer me to a,

1022
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:31.800
shaman WHICH i. Refused so it is possible to switch

1023
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:35.920
therapists if you, know if you really need to speak

1024
01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:41.039
about these, things switch to a therapist that's comfortable talking about.

1025
01:02:41.079 --> 01:02:43.559
THIS i do believe that people don't want to talk

1026
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:46.639
about it because they don't really want to come to

1027
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:49.159
the realization that there's something that scary out in the

1028
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:51.360
forest because to a lot of, people this is a.

1029
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:55.480
Monster but if you can think of it more as

1030
01:02:55.639 --> 01:03:00.880
there's a grizzly, bear they're dangerous. Also but we can't

1031
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.920
survive this planet with grizzly. Bears we just have to

1032
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:10.360
be mindful of. That you do your due diligence before going,

1033
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:13.639
out make sure you take measures to protect yourself and

1034
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.840
be comfortable in the wilderness and not get. Lost let

1035
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:21.239
people know where you're. Going those things are. IMPORTANT i,

1036
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:24.800
also you, know if people are having problems around their,

1037
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:30.239
house there's things you could probably do to get fosquatch

1038
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:31.960
away from your. House AND i would say if you

1039
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:36.119
can create like a firebreak or cut some trees from

1040
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:39.199
around your house to move that out a little, further

1041
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:42.079
maybe they will stop hitting on your house or. WHATNOT

1042
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:44.440
i would also let them know before you cut, them

1043
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.440
you're doing this because of. Them that way they know

1044
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:50.320
if they continue to do, it it's more could you get.

1045
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:55.079
Cut so just do for them to be aware because

1046
01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:58.000
they do have a level of communication that we can

1047
01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:03.039
communicate that to. Them cameras are always. Good if you

1048
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:06.159
want to put cameras in your window and, whatnot that

1049
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:07.559
can also help keep them.

1050
01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:15.639
Away and are you talking about game cameras, Specifically, no not.

1051
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:20.159
REALLY i do believe they can see infrared. LIGHT i

1052
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:22.239
mean you can see infrared. Light if you hold your

1053
01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:25.599
iPhone up and look at something in the, camera you

1054
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:28.280
can see the infrared light on your. Camera it's not

1055
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:32.840
a far stretch for an animal to have eyesight good

1056
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:38.239
enough to see that wavelength of, light just like an

1057
01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:40.360
eagle can see a lot better than we. CAN i

1058
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:44.719
do believe they can see better than we. Can so

1059
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:46.519
if you put gam of cameras, UP i don't think

1060
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:51.079
it's going to do. Anything it might keep them out

1061
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:52.960
of that. SPOT i guess if you maybe do it

1062
01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:55.320
on the corner of your, house they might stay away

1063
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:57.159
from that areas because they don't want to be on the.

1064
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:02.400
Camera thank you for coming on the, show AND i

1065
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:05.079
have a quick question for you after we stop.

1066
01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:09.239
Recording, okay so thank.

1067
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:11.280
You just wanted to take a mite say thank you

1068
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:13.960
for listening to this episode of The Bigfoot society. Podcast

1069
01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:16.480
kase story is one of those rare encounters that stay

1070
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:18.320
with you not just because of what she, saw but

1071
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:20.760
because of how deeply it's marked her entire. Life so

1072
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:23.199
huge thanks To kay for her courage and sharing her

1073
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.360
memories from childhood fear In, louisiana to the haunting silence

1074
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:28.599
of The Washington, woods and to the moment she locked

1075
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:31.320
eyes with something that shook her to the. Core if

1076
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:33.679
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1084
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:52.039
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1085
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:55.400
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01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:57.320
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01:05:57.320 --> 01:05:59.679
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1094
01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:23.599
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1095
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:25.679
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1096
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:26.039
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1097
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:26.400
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