Nov. 14, 2025

Matt from Missouri: A Lifetime of Bigfoot and Paranormal Encounters

Matt from Missouri: A Lifetime of Bigfoot and Paranormal Encounters
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Season 1

Matt from Missouri has spent over five decades surrounded by the unexplained — and in this exclusive Bigfoot Society interview, he finally tells it all. From childhood experiences with haunted antiques and psychic energy to eerie nights filled with unexplainable screams, strange lights, and UFOs hovering over the Mississippi River, Matt’s story is a rare window into a life touched by the unknown.


He recounts terrifying encounters deep in the Missouri woods — rocks thrown from the darkness, mysterious voices mimicking loved ones, and the unforgettable moment he came face-to-face with something massive and unseen. His experiences span generations, connecting Native American heritage, paranormal events, and Bigfoot sightings across Missouri’s wild backcountry.


Whether you’re a believer or a skeptic, this conversation will challenge everything you think you know about the supernatural. Tune in for one of the most detailed and haunting Bigfoot eyewitness stories ever shared on record.

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You're listening to Bigflet Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Bigflet Society. We've got

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the privilege of talking to Matt today. Matt is a

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listener from down there in Missouri that has had some

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really interesting things happen over the entire span of his life.

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So we've got it sounds like some ground to cover today,

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and Matt is going to be taking us back to

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when things start happening for him and his life, and

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we're really going to go to some interesting places, is

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what it sounds like.

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Matt.

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Welcome to the show. How are you doing today, sir?

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I'm doing really good year.

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Maia, how about you doing great. It's always fun when

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it's a nice day in Iowa, and I'm able to

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talk to some people about Bigfoot. I cannot do better

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than that, So can't complain. Can't complain, Matt we As

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we've already said, I think there's quite the life that

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you have lived so far, and so I want to

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make sure that you have the time to share your experiences.

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I'm going to go ahead and say, feel free to

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take us back to when you first started to realize

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that some things were happening in your life that were

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out of the ordinary.

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Okay, yeah, I'm thirty five of getting ready to fifty

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six years not too long. The world of weirdness. It

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started whenever I was probably four to five years old.

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My mom and dad were over a couple depressionary of people.

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My mom would and my dad both they would buy

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a state and pedal antiques on the side. My dad

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was a not burning engineer. My mother was a housewife,

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and that was a lot of things that she did

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to make extra money was buy out of states and pedal.

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All these antiques probably started between four and five with

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an estate that she had bought out. Her and I

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were in the basement. I went down first. I was

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just kid, just playing it to me. Everything was a

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big just so much fun to go and root through

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all this stuff. And her and I go down into

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this basement and I hear her say something as she's

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coming down behind me, and she goes into me. She

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said that she was pushed in the door shut and

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it was one of them old style sellers with the

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doors outside the house. And she's screaming for my dad

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to come, and we couldn't get out of basement. We

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couldn't get out of the sell this basement. And he did.

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He came and opened up the doors and she told

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him the story that she was shoved. I'm just kid.

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I don't know anything from there. With the antiques, a

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lot of your listeners may know that they have anything

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to do with the paranormal side, that a lot of

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things spirits can attach themselves to that and saying that

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our basement was the storage for a lot of these

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things that my mom and dad would bring home with us.

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We would have I'm not going to say hauntings, but

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we would have things happen, pipes knock, all different things

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like that. She was that first experience started her and

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my mom is of Cherokee descent. Her great grandmother was

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a sorry about that. She was a medicine woman. She's

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on the trailer tears. That kind of opened a door

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doing these antiques where my mom, I don't know what

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it was. She started practicing what she did and what

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she's seen her grandmother do, great grandmother did. She was

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a kid, and she would she'd opened up herself as

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a psyche. Things really changed after that, just seeing things, spirits.

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She would deal with seances. She got into a metaphysics

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part of it. She even went and was looked at

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for astro projection. She was never her percentage of being

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correct on things wasn't high enough for them to use

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her in anything like that. But she was very good,

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very good. I seen her have police ask her about

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things many different municipalities around the Midwest. I used to

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go with her to a lot of those things. This

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may sound bad, but I think a lot of times

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a child will can have their spiritual abilities are really

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open when they're young. They don't have all the things

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that we have as we accumulate in life, all this

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crap on us. And I think my mom used me

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as a channeling device maybe of some sort. I think

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that made her perception that much better because I would

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see things. One time FBI had contacted her. It was

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about a murder. We went and drove met them. They

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took us somewhere and it was just me and my

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mom and these two agents in a car. And it

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wound up being a plane involved in this whatever it was.

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Like I said, I was just a kid during that time.

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Didn't really pay attention to a whole lot of stuff

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except for the weird of course, wound up being a plane.

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She gave numbers, but it wasn't all the numbers for

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the plane. And I happened to say these two numbers,

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it just popped into my head. It was numbers that

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were on the plane. Move along, through the years I

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seen her do. She would be called the clear spirits

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from a house or do different things for people. A

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lot of stuff during that time, Luigi boards and all

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that was super rampant. And you should never play with

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those things. That just opens the door to a lot

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of bad things. I was I never was allowed to

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play with anything like that. I watched her take care

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of a lot of those things. Moving along. I'm a

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little older, about seven eight years old, like I said

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I had been. She took me me and my dad

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took her wherever she needed to go for whatever. Moving along,

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I'm about seven or eight years old then, seventy seven,

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seventy eight, this started the bigfoot Sasquatch thing that I

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didn't even know. Seven or eight years old. In first

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grade comes around deer season. I'm one of the only

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boat boys in the class. I want to go deer hunting.

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So I start hammering on my dad. I want to

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go deer hunting, and they buy a place. We go

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down there. I'm about eight years old. My first year season.

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It's in an area at that particular there was a

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lot of vocals that people heard around there. I never

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knew that until just not too long ago. But what

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people talked about hearing is what I heard back in

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that time, and they were strange. Back then. The first

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thing that we noticed was car door would sound like

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a car door slam, and it would come from different

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sides of the woods, and we would just sit there

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and listen. I'd always ask my dad's like, what is that.

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I'm not sure. He goes, I don't know what that is.

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My first year season, my brother's my half brother, his

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cousin hunted with us, and I'll never forget it. He's

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walking approaching the camp and we're watching him. He's two

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hundred yards away from us. He's walking down the road

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and we're watching him, and he spins around and shoulders

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his rifle and we're all dying with anticipation to see

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what's happening because we can see. He finally comes off

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rest and he starts walking back to us, and he

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keeps looking off to his right. He finally gets there

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and my dad' said, what did you see, Bruce? Was

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there a deer down there? And he goes, I heard

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a car door slam and we're the only camp. We're

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last camp on the road. There was nobody there. We

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would continue to hear these car door slams, knocks, sound

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like someone was putting a roof on a house. It

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later went to the weirdest thing in that area. And

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this area is Cadet, Missouri, the old mines areas where

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it is off of the Minimal Fork River in Arnold Creek.

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That's where it was at. I'd never forget it. My

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dad's walking down the road and I'm in the middle.

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My brother's on the right of me. I'm probably eight

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or nine years old, and we're pretty good ways outside

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of camp, and all of a sudden, this, man, you

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know what's crazy is I heard someone say the exact

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same thing my dad and brother said at the time

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that it happened. We're standing there and I'll never forget it.

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My dad my brother looks to my dad and he's like, Joe,

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what is that. And my Dad's sitting there and he's

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listening to it, and he goes, I don't know, it

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sounds like an ambulance. And my brother goes, yeah and

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almost like an air raids siren. And my dad follows

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up and says, in a train. And it was the longest,

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deepest scream. How it was just too strange. And we

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stood there, we listened to it, and it did it

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a couple of times, and we turned around. We went

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back to camp. We didn't hang around too much in

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that area down there. And here's the funny thing. The

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timeframe that that was. Car doors don't sound the same

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as they did then. We'd roll hollow sounded. Now then

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they were big, heavy doors and they made a noise,

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a certain noise. Think of a seventy six monty Carlow.

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When you shut that door, it was a noise like that.

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No more other experiences down there. Go along a little

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bit later. My mom is still doing the psychic thing.

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She did that up up until she died. So escalow,

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escalate along. Through my teens, we had bought another piece

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of property not very far from where we lived. We

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could commute and it was about forty acres. Nice, nice place,

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had a pond on it, nice pond, almost one hundred

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year old pond. And we buy this place and it

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had been overgrown for twenty years when we bought it.

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And I think back of any of anything weird ever

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happened there. And the only thing that ever strange happened there.

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I'll just tell you about two of them. One of

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them is real strange. But the first one was, is

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this pond. We get the place cleaned up, we make

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it nice. And right before the fourth of July is

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right around, it's getting the gig in season. Frog season.

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Someone can We had big frogs down there, big frogs,

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and you would hear them, and we'd loved it. And

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I had never been gigging. My dad and I we're

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going to go gigging the frogs disappear. The frogs are gone,

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no hiding a hair of them, no footprints. My dad

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is super angry, my brother's bothered to buy it, and

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we're going to catch these guys next year. I won't

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tell too much of that, but what I'll tell you

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is I spent many years trying to catch these people

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getting these frogs. Okay, we thought they were poachers. I

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never caught nothing. Okay, I'd never seen nobody, never caught

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nobody ever doing it several times was the strangest thing.

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I don't even know what even to say about it.

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Either they would just be gone twice of all the years.

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They would always just be gone twice in the course

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of probably twelve years or more fifteen years. Those several

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times I would find the skins of the frogs fall

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frogs would be gone, just the skins. I never could

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explain that. That was just always the weirdest thing there.

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I would hear either my mom or my dad called me.

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That was another weird thing that happened there. One of

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the times that my dad called me, it turned out

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to be a neighbor's mule that was screaming make a

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hell of a noise. The other time was my mom,

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and she made a statement I come back to the

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area that we had a picnic table and all that,

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and I go, yeah, go, mom, you're calling me And

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I wasn't calling you. Go, I go, I heard you

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call my name. And my mom had a certain way

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about say and my name. Couldn't you couldn't get it

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confused with anything. And she told me, she goes, well,

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you just better stay here at the Willie Booger get

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you and I'd laugh it off. You don't want that.

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Both of them were southern folk, grew up poor folk.

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My dad really was out in the woods. Both of

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the families had lots of kids, so I think both

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of my parents knew, but they never did say much

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about it, just little things. So we go through that.

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That's all through my teens and into my twenties. I

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even have good friends in high school that would stay

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up with me down there to try to find these thieves.

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Never did find anything. Probably that really didn't really notice

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anything strange out of the normal. Never did hear no

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other than my name being called, thinking it was my

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mom or dad. Nothing really strange. Half the time there,

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I'm getting into my early twenties, I go to trade school.

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Meet up with this guy, Chris, I'll alls him and

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I got the kicking around over in a place across

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chain of Rocks Bridge, And this would have been the

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early nineties. Kicking around over there, and if you look

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at the map there, there's a chain of Rocks canal

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that goes through there. When we were over there kicking around,

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they were building that. And what they did was they

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had big potholes that they were taking out, big places,

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like you could put two or three homes down in

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some of them. My buddy Chris was from up in

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that area and he called them the soup bowls. So

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me and him we go over there and we're messing

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around in these suit bowls after dark. Course it's late,

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messing around in place that we shouldn't have been, and

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we go down. We're going down through these suit bowls

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and having a blast, and we come up to one.

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It's got Toyota four drive pickup truck. We come up

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to the one and it's tires just go over the

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top of it. And we stopped right there and we're

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pointing out toward the old city workhouse. It was just

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right across the river and downstream from us. And there's

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like a big day right there, which the bay has gone.

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And like I said that, now it's the chain of

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rocks canal over there. And back then a dump was

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over there, city dump was over there, pour down in there,

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and we're having good time. We get to the last

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suit bawl. We parked, the trucks parked, and we're just

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facing off and he's got the lights off and we're

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sitting there and we see this light and it's pointing

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down and it's shining on the water on the Mississippi

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and it's coming down down through there. And I look

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over at him and I was like, hey, man, I'll

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bet you that's a helicopter looking for those guys that

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got out of the workhouse, because they had people that

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would escape from there from time to time. And I

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know sooner say that, and he flashes his headlights at

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this freaking thing. Okay, we think it's the cops. Right,

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This is the strangest thing. You could see the light

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on the water, But there wasn't a beat going from

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the thing in the sky to the water. All you

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could see was that circle on the water. Here comes

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that circle at us. And I'm like, I said, a

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few choice words to him. I'm like, dude, I go,

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we're not even supposed to be in here anyway, Let's

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get out of here. And he's already backing up. When

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we're going. Like I said, the wheels were just up

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over the top of that hump right there. He starts

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his truck up and he's having a hard time getting

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his tires back up over it. The thing is coming

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at us and it's freaking huge, absolutely huge. We finally

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get back down and we're leaving. We're getting out of there.

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We're flying through all these suit bowls. We come standing

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out into the farmer's field and the Saint Louis area

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is to our back, the river's to our back, and

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we're looking right at the city dump right there, and

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he starts grabbing gears and we're getting it, and we're

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almost to the road. And when you get closer to

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the road, then there was grass and things growed up

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and you could see where people were getting in there.

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As we're approaching where where we can get on the

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road to get out of there. The I guess that

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county over there had come through and took up all

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the pipes and they dug it up so people couldn't

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get in there, and and I had went in a

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different way, and he don't miss a beat man. He

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downshifts and he cuts the wheels on that truck and

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it spins around. And now we're going back the way

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that we come and that thing it come out over

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the top of the trees and it was freaking massive

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and it didn't make a noise. It had lights across it.

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We're headed toward it, and he starts crying. I'm freaking out.

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I'm looking at the massive size of this thing and

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it was just huge. We probably I can't even guess

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how close we got to it. I didn't know what

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he was doing. I figured it out real close. We

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were getting close to that thing, and he whips the

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truck around again. He was getting a run to jump

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the ditch and get out onto the road, and we do.

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He grabbed gears and I'm looking out the back window

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and I'm looking at this thing and that's coming to us.

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We hit that embankment, cleared the ditch, hit in the

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middle of the gravel road. We slide all the way over,

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go into the They had manicured grass going up in

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an embankment, and then at the top of the bankment

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was a chain link fence. We slide down into the

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ditch up on the side. He gets control of the truck.

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We come back out on the road and now meet

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and him both can see it. It's right there. So

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he's grabbing gears. We're trying. He's trying to get out

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of there. And I said to him, like, well, man,

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I go just stop, but let's see what it does.

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And he said, are you f and stupid? And he's

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bawling and I'll never forget it, and me and him

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grabbed gears out of there. Super weird that did. My

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buddy Chris started a whole chain of events that went

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all down through Illinois that you'll see on the Aliens

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UFO Aliens. There's a show all on it. My buddy

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Chris is the one that started that. If he would

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have never have flashed his lights, that thing would have

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never come our way. I'm not saying that it wouldn't.

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People down in southern Illinois, just down from like the

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JB Bridge wouldn't have seen it. But I think he

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spurred it to come that way. But anyway that goes,

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that's in the Like I said, the early nineties, him

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and I are still friends to this day. We still

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talk about it. He kind of had a melt down

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over it and filed it away in a place in

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his brain and didn't think about it for a long time.

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Wouldn't even talk about it. Still doesn't really like talking

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about it. But anyway, a couple of years, this is

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the early nineties. It's about ninety four. I'm hunting a

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place down around wapacole A with good buddies of mine.

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They had the one buddy his grandma and grandpa had

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a place down there, the local, not yach club, but

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the local, a little marina, and that ended up buying

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it and they rented this cabin out. He wanted all

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us to come down there deer hunting, and that's where

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he grew up deer hunting at And I was like, yeah, man,

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that'd be cool. So there's a group of our guys

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that are hunted down there. A couple of years. I

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come down. First year, everything was fine. The second year,

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I got a shot at a deer and this was

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a weird experience. This is what led to I shoot

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this deer and I give them time to it ran

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off and let me back up business. Second me coming

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into this place two years after my buddies went there.

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I didn't get the most prestigious, nicest spot. I had

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to walk all the way down the ridge and get

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to where nobody was, and it was a long ways,

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a very long ways. So anyway, I shoot this gear

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my second year down there, and she goes to a

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place that I hadn't been before, which was close to

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the lake, not too bad, great big bottom in real

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thick and she heads that way, so I give her

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a little bit of time. I start walking over there

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and I hear a guy shoot. I'm like, that's some

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of it. Shot my deer. So I pick up the

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step and as I'm getting to about where I think

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that they are, I hear the boat motor start and

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as I get up to him, he turns and looks

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at me and he shot. You know. I go, hey,

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I go, man, I go, I was tracking the deer.

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I go that deer wounded. He's no, he goes, buddy,

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he goes, it's strangest thing. He goes that deer you

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shot limped up through ear and he goes it let

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out a bleat and he goes this dough run out

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of the woods and run up to her and I

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shot her. He goes, your deer went off that way,

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And at first I'm thinking you lying. I know you're

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lying to me. And I looked at I see where

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he gutted his gear at, and sure enough he wasn't

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lying there. I found blood trap, blood trail going up.

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I never did find that gear. It disappeared. While looking

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for this gear, I find this beautiful bottom and it's

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just freaking awesome, and I'm thinking, man, this is where

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I'm coming bow season, early season. This is going to

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be my spot way back in here. But this is

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my spot. So that year goes by. Next year rolls

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up and we want to bow hunt, and I me

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and my buddy John, we meet up down there and

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it's just going to be the two of us. I

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could have hunted any freaking place because there was nobody there.

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Of course, I'm going to go to the place that

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I found, and I get out there, I do something

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different this time. I had always used the flag flight

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going into the woods, always had This year bow hunting,

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We're going in early and John had forgot his flashlight.

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I had one, but I told him to man, I'm

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just gonna walk in there. In the dark and just

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slow stalk my way down in there. I'm gonna get

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to the end of that ridge throwing my whole plane.

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And I do that, and man, I get down there

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and it's nice. Son's coming up. It's prime killing time.

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And I'm sitting trying this great, big old growth tree

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and two or three guys couldn't reach around. It's just

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a monster tree and they're scattered out along the end

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of this ridge. It looks down into this bottom and

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I lean up against this tree. I'm squatted down. I

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got a recurve bow, I got my knife, I got haversack,

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got some snacks in it, some water, and I get

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leaned up against this tree and I'm sitting there. I

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got my boat in front of me, and it's the

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time is right. The woods are looking good. I can

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see real nice and I'm sitting there for a long time,

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not hearing anything, the sounds of the full taking place.

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And it was probably nine ish nine is something like that,

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And I'm sitting there and I hear this man and

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woman and they're arguing and he is chewing her out,

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and I'm like, holy cole, and who yells back at him?

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And then who gets right back on her. This is

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what I'm thinking in my mind, and it was a

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distinct I distinctly got a male and female from the

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sound of their voices. So I start listening to him,

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and my first thought in my mind was, oh, I

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bet you he let her control the pone tune boat

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and she wrecked it. That's my because I'm not too

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far from the water, and that's what I'm thinking. And

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he yells at her a few more times, yells at her,

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and she's talking back to him and not in a

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mean tone, just more like trying to calm him down.

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And I'm listening to him, and man, it was the

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weirdest freaking thing you could almost hear. I could almost

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make out a word or two. And I got to

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listening to them and concentrating on them talking so so much.

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I don't even know how long it took place. It

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probably wasn't very long. But I'm sitting there and I'm

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listening to him, and it's like I've made the comment

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on other show, on other places. The only thing I

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get associated with back at the time was the Muppets

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and that sweetish chef on there, and he'd know the

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way that he would talk. And I'm listening to this,

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I'm like, what the hell am I listening to here?

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And he's pissed off and he's yelling at her, and

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like I said, she was calmly talking to him, and

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it was a bunch of words. Man. They were talking.

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And in my mind, I'm still thinking that it's a

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man and a woman on a boat, is what I'm thinking.

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They're hung up fishing or something. That's what's in my mind.

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Nothing else. I didn't think of anything else other than that.

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And I'm listening to him, and all of a sudden,

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she's the one that gets mad and she starts yelling

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at him and just reading this guy the Riot Act,

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and I can hear his demeanor changes, and I thought, oh, yeah,

457
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you should get in yours. What I'm thinking, I'm laughing

458
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:17.200
to myself. A woman's sticking up for herself. And I

459
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.960
start listening to her and she starts getting on him

460
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:24.240
and she's saying all these words man, and I don't

461
00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:28.759
It's not long ago. I heard follow a lot of

462
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:31.319
different people on YouTube, and I followed this with one

463
00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:36.319
Bushcraft guy and he's a Norwegian and here let slip

464
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:39.839
an English word when he talks here and there, and

465
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.359
what I can now, it's funny because I made it

466
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:47.000
up about being that muppet, that sweetish chef and here.

467
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:50.880
When I listened to that guy and do his show,

468
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.119
Like I said, he lets out an English word here

469
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:58.160
and there that almost sounded like them. It almost sounded

470
00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:02.119
like they were standing avy in some sort anyway. I'm

471
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:06.279
focusing it on her because her voice I can it

472
00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:08.799
seems like I can almost make out better what she

473
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:12.640
is saying, and I can almost make out the words. Man.

474
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:16.079
And I start concentrating real hard, and she's yelling at him,

475
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.720
and his demeanor changes and he's okay, I kicking rocks.

476
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:22.480
I got in trouble from his wife. And I'm listening

477
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.759
to this and this is what I'm thinking. And he

478
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.720
did that a couple times while she was still cheering

479
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.480
on his head. I when it was real weird. Man,

480
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.799
I can almost make out what she's saying. And she

481
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.519
says it again a little bit talking to him, and

482
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:43.720
I'm just like and I had focused in and listened

483
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:46.440
so hard my head was hurting, and I was like, man,

484
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:48.160
I just give up. I don't know what they're saying.

485
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:52.039
I that thought, no sooner went through my mind, and

486
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.279
over my left shoulder comes to this golf ball size

487
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.359
raw and it riz past my ear and it goes

488
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.880
right in front of me, and I'm like, I'm in

489
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:08.440
somebody's hunting area. Completely forget about the boaters that are

490
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:11.680
yelling at each other, right, I completely forget about them.

491
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:15.920
My first thought is I'm in somebody's hunting spot. And

492
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:18.079
I turn around and I look over my shoulder and

493
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:20.480
I start looking in the tops of all these trees.

494
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:22.559
I'm expecting to see a guy in a stand is

495
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.960
what I'm expecting to see. I don't see nothing, and

496
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.119
I'm thinking he's in the ground blind or something. So

497
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.880
I'm just staying him everywhere, and I'm thinking, man, I

498
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:33.359
need to get out of here. So I pick up

499
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.279
my haversack, put my heathersack on, make sure I got everything,

500
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:38.839
make sure I didn't leave no trash or anything on

501
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:42.640
the ground, and I picked that rock up and I

502
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:44.559
and I'm thinking, man, a god could have freaking hit

503
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:49.519
me with that. I stand up and I looked in

504
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:52.079
the direction that the rock came from. I go, hey, man,

505
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:54.160
I go, I'm sorry for being in your spot. I

506
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:57.359
didn't know this was anybody's I go, I'm leaving. I'm sorry,

507
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.400
didn't mess up your hunt. I turn around and I

508
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.160
start b lining from that big tree and I don't

509
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.039
get twenty yards from that big tree and another rock,

510
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:12.759
bigger this time. It's real close. It's so close he

511
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:16.359
almost got me. I don't know if they timed it

512
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:19.359
like that to be perfect, but it was a bigger rock.

513
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:21.039
It did have hit me. I don't know what it

514
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.160
would have done, because it was whizing when it comes

515
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:27.000
past my head, come right past my left ear again,

516
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:29.519
and it goes out in front of me about ten foot,

517
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:31.559
and it pissed me off. At that time. I'm a

518
00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:34.920
young guy, I'm strong, I was an athlete, tough guy.

519
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.319
I run up and grabbed that rock and I spun

520
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.200
around and I said, I go, I told you I

521
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.480
was believing. I chucked that rock back to there, and

522
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.039
it bounced off a couple of ramses and boom down

523
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.119
to the ground. My first thought was they got the

524
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:53.000
drop off. I'm thinking, man, the guy's got the drop

525
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.599
on me. And I start looking up in the trees

526
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:57.640
again and I don't see nothing, and i'd be lying

527
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.480
out of there. I get about another twenty yard yards

528
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.359
and I can hear something off to my right and

529
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.200
it's from down in that bottom and I hear it

530
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:12.319
and it's it's where all This is the part that

531
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:14.759
always really gets me. Man. It's never the part about

532
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:19.559
the rock. It's a part when I after I said that,

533
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:23.119
I walk that other twenty yards and I can hear

534
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:25.480
something off to the right of me, and I'm like,

535
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.559
my thought was this that guy? And I walk a

536
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.559
little bit and I stop and I hear a step.

537
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.680
I'm like, damn, that's that guy. So I pick up

538
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.279
the case and I take off. I'm not running, but

539
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:42.240
I'm I've got a I'm six foot two and a half.

540
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.240
I got thirty six inch end scene on my leg.

541
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.240
I can move, man, especially back then. So I'm putting

542
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:53.519
out the meter steps getting out of there, and I

543
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:58.200
go probably another forty yards or so. I'm getting to

544
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.440
up on top of this room. It's real broad chick,

545
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:04.480
like a thumb start getting to that spot right there,

546
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:09.799
and I stopped real quick, and I heard it, and

547
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:13.759
it's now it's closer to me, and he's off. He's

548
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:17.039
golf down to my right and he's intersecting me, and

549
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.799
I thought he's going to meet me in that about

550
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.799
I don't know. Another fifty hundred yards in front of

551
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:27.759
me is an old plumb ticket and it's growed up

552
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.640
in that little bitty fire road crept through there, and

553
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.519
I thought, I'm gonna meet this guy in this and

554
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.960
that opening up there. So I take off and I

555
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.119
got my my I got a arrow in my hand,

556
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.319
I got my red curve, and I start getting that

557
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:47.039
fight or flight feeling, and I can hear him as

558
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:50.480
I'm walking. He's walking and he's headed right for that

559
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.440
plumb ticket, and I'm like, oh, man, and I start

560
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:55.279
getting that feeling like I'm gonna get in a fight

561
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.200
with a guy in the middle of the woods over

562
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.599
something stupid and that I'm I was like, man, I

563
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:03.200
shouldn't have thrown that rock back and said what I said?

564
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.519
That's going through my mind, and I stopped again real quick,

565
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:13.720
and I caught him. He took two steps, and to me,

566
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.799
it felt like he was about forty yards from me.

567
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:23.799
Now i'd done clear at a pretty good distance. I

568
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:25.759
don't know where they were at. I don't so I

569
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.480
catch him and I thought, well, he's going to meet

570
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.319
me in this field, in this old thicket up here

571
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:34.039
in this old plumb ticket. So that fight or flight,

572
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:35.920
and I'm thinking, man, I've got to go out this way.

573
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:37.640
This is the way I go to to get to

574
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:41.079
my car. So I take a couple of deep breasts.

575
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:43.400
I still get that feeling to this day. I take

576
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.240
off and I'm approaching that and I can hear him.

577
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.759
He's coming and he's getting closer to me. And this

578
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:54.079
plumb ticket was probably in its heyday, was probably pretty

579
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:58.160
nice size. It was probably, oh maybe a one hundred

580
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:01.759
foot by one hundred foot, maybe a little plump, little

581
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:06.000
orchard at one time, is what I was guessing. I

582
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.200
get right to the edge of that and it opens

583
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.079
up in the tall grass and that there, there's all

584
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:13.240
these little plumb trees. And I stepped in there and

585
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:17.119
I stopped, and I can hear him, and he stopped,

586
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.359
and I turned to my right and I looked down

587
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:22.880
to where I could see at the corner right there,

588
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:28.519
and I didn't seem I didn't say anything. I just

589
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.119
stood there and I figured that he was going to

590
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:36.119
step out. And I stood there for a minute. Nothing happened.

591
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:41.000
I turned and I start walking, and I thought, with

592
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:42.559
the guy wanted to have it out with me. He

593
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:44.200
would have met me right there. That would have been

594
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.440
the spot. So I keep walking. I still got a

595
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.119
good ways to go till I get back to my car,

596
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.319
and I keep walking. I keep walking, and I stopped

597
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.000
a few times, and the guy is paralleling me out.

598
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:58.400
He's following me out. I'm thinking, okay, you don't he

599
00:33:58.400 --> 00:33:59.839
didn't want to fight in the woods, or he didn't

600
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:02.400
want to cuss me out in the woods. He's going

601
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.559
to do it at my car, is what I'm thinking.

602
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.240
So I was like, Okay, you know that's better. I

603
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:13.000
feel better about that. And man, periodically he got close

604
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:16.639
to me. He probably got within thirty yards maybe of me.

605
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:19.159
There was a time when I stopped and man, I

606
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:21.119
could I was like, man, I got to be able

607
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.639
to see this guy. He's just right there. I never

608
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:27.840
do seem I come out of the woods and I'm

609
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:31.000
feeling fidgety fighting because I'm expecting this guy to show

610
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:32.840
up and then I've got to get into this argument

611
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:35.599
and do my apologies and all this stuff with this guy.

612
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:37.880
We get a little butterflies in my stomach, and my

613
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.599
buddy John, he walks out of the woods. I'd been

614
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:42.880
at camp about twenty minutes or so, he walks out

615
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:46.039
of the woods that's down the tailgate. He's no, I'll

616
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.079
never forget it. He puts his bow in his back

617
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:50.079
of this truck and turns and he looks at me

618
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:51.880
and he goes, did you know learn two people talking?

619
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:53.519
I go, yeah, dude, I did. I go, Man. I

620
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:57.039
tried making out what they were saying, but I never

621
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.480
could understand it. And I talked and I go, yeah,

622
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.119
I go. I listened to him for a long time.

623
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:06.239
It seemed like I could almost make out what they

624
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:09.360
were saying. And I go, about the time I just

625
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:10.960
gave up on it, I go, I guess I was

626
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.039
in somebody's hunting the spot and someone threw a rock

627
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.280
at me, man, and I didn't tell him about it,

628
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:18.320
throwing two rocks, the second rock at me, and I

629
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:23.039
never did say anything about it following me out, Like

630
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:24.920
I said, I thought it was another hunter. I would

631
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:26.480
have never known what I know now. I would have

632
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:28.599
said something, but it me and him talk about it,

633
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:32.519
he goes, Man, he goes, it sounded like Gibbers. I go, yeah,

634
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:35.480
I go, they were something Scandinavian or something. Man. And

635
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.920
I went to him. I go, it's almost sounded like

636
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.119
the Swedish ship off the uplets, and he got a

637
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.719
kick out all laugh and that's all him and I

638
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:46.880
ever said about it. Never nothing happened. I didn't. But

639
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.039
what I will tell you is that which is strange.

640
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.519
It's always a vivid dreamer. As a kid growing up,

641
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:56.320
I did start getting these nightmares of being chased and

642
00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:58.599
not knowing what it was, knowing that I would just

643
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.280
run in my dreens. Ever put two and two together,

644
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:04.480
and I still really don't it to me, It's just

645
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.400
a weird thing that happened in the dreams that could

646
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.360
have been anything. At that time, I had kids, a

647
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:12.880
young family, working two or three jobs. They could bear anxiety.

648
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:17.079
I never did really attest to the nightmarves, to that experience.

649
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.639
It never did really bother me. I really don't have

650
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:27.239
any other experiences with bigfoot sasquatch. After that. Some weird

651
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:31.079
things happened. Those frogs being taken from our farm every

652
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.880
year continued to happen. Never did catch them, and that's

653
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:40.000
the later time is probably when the last time that

654
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.800
just found the skins floating in them. That was the

655
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.159
weirdest things too. I can't understand that but it was

656
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.719
the whole skin. It wasn't like the trip they cut

657
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:51.599
off the legs. It was the whole skin. Anyway that happens,

658
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.159
I get done. Nothing like I said, nothing really happened

659
00:36:55.159 --> 00:37:00.960
down there. I end up seeing another UFO, that particular UFO.

660
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:06.039
I watched it go into a portal and closed. After

661
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:11.960
seeing that, nothing really ever happened around here. Now this

662
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:16.159
is a weird thing because on the BFRO site, within

663
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.760
another mile and a half of where I've seen this UFO,

664
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:24.079
someone in twenty fifteen seeing a sasquatch run across the

665
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:28.159
road where I live at now outside of high Ridge, Missouri.

666
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.239
And I was not even into any of that, and

667
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:33.480
no sace. I thought it was cool. I thought I

668
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:35.800
was almost a gift getting to see something like that.

669
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.760
I believed in them because I've seen it. Nothing really

670
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.960
weird took place here. I started hunting a farm down

671
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.760
in Edgar Springs with my same buddies. They leased this

672
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.519
big piece of ground down there. I get on with them.

673
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.199
In another same scenario, they had one hundred of a

674
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.440
few years before I got on the lease with them.

675
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:57.239
And that place is one side of it is bordered,

676
00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.960
half of it is bordered by people with big peace.

677
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:03.840
This is a property. The smallest one is maybe twenty acres.

678
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.280
That property was well over three hundred that we were in.

679
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.239
And I get down there, get on that leaves, start

680
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.000
hunting that and like, man, I walked all over that place,

681
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:18.599
got to know it really good, and really liked it

682
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.440
down there. And I've never had any weird experiences out

683
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.760
down there. I say, I didn't have weird. The one

684
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.320
weird thing that happened to me, I was sitting in

685
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.679
a blind and may have dozed off for a little bit.

686
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:35.360
Woke up and looking around. I was bow hunting, looking around,

687
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:40.239
and a burroke dropped in my lap. And when I

688
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:43.760
looked down at it, I just laughed. I'm like, where

689
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.199
did you come from? That whole area down it? There's

690
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:49.119
not a burrough to be found down there, Okay, I've

691
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:51.840
been all over that place there there's no And then

692
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:53.400
I don't know if you know what a burrow is

693
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:55.440
if you look it up. This one still had the

694
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:58.000
husk and everything on it, and I picked it up.

695
00:38:58.000 --> 00:38:59.679
I'm looking at it and I just laughed, and I

696
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:03.960
look up over my head and I'm thinking of did

697
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.400
a bird drop I don't know. I had no idea. Man.

698
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.519
All I can tell you is what happened. I still

699
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:14.039
got that thing, so it falls in my lap. Nothing

700
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:17.400
happened there that was weird, But I'm a logical guy.

701
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.440
It could have been a bird, maybe a squirrel. Maybe

702
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.960
I hadn't seen this burrow, even though I'd walked all

703
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.920
over this place. I don't know if it was that

704
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:30.239
same season, it may have been the very next season.

705
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.920
My buddy's got a dog, and that dog went with

706
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.760
us down there all over the place. Had feeders all

707
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.760
over this place, salt licks and blocks, miniermal blocks, and

708
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:43.679
you know, things like that, typical things what a bunch

709
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:46.320
of guys do on a hunt property. And we had

710
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.159
cameras out and all that stuff. Other than that burrough

711
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.719
fall my lap. The one time him and I go

712
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.960
down there and here again, it's nothing that I would

713
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.920
have ever attributed to anything. Him and I we take

714
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.119
off and we're going to walk down to the closest

715
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:05.280
feeder and camera and we're going to swap out cards.

716
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:07.800
And a dog takes off. She knows where we're going.

717
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.199
She runs down the road. Him and I are walking

718
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:11.960
down the road, walking down the road, we get pretty

719
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:15.280
close to this. We're probably fifty hundred yards away. We're

720
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.880
pretty close, and here's she come out, and she's got

721
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:23.239
her head down, her tail is all the way up

722
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:27.079
on her belly, and she is running as fast as

723
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:29.559
she can, and she goes right between him and I

724
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:31.320
and goes and she's headed right back to the truck

725
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:35.199
and he's calling her name. She don't stop for nothing.

726
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:37.639
And I turned to look at him, and he turned

727
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:39.400
to looked at me, and he's she ain't never done

728
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.320
that before. I go, that's weird. And she run out

729
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:47.480
of sight back to the vehicle. Don't think nothing of it.

730
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:50.760
We turn around, we'd go, we're still going to this

731
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:55.880
first site. And we walk down maybe fifty seventy five

732
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.400
yards and you make a left off into the brush

733
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:00.920
and that's probably another twenty five thirty yards to where

734
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.440
the camera and feeder and all that stuff is. So

735
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:06.840
we make that little left turn and he's about ten

736
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:08.679
yards in front of me, and he stops dead in

737
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:11.960
his tracks AND's what is that smell? And he turns

738
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.239
around and looks at me. He's got this horrible look

739
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.760
on the stace. And I stopped and I'm looking at

740
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:19.840
him and he's looking at me and he's just got

741
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.280
a horrible look on his face, asking me, he goes

742
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:24.880
you smell that. I'm like, no, I don't know if

743
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.159
I want to or not. And I took a step

744
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:32.159
forward and it was like I stepped into man, I

745
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.039
have thought about that, And me and him both while

746
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:38.239
we're standing there, he's I don't notice, and he named

747
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.199
off a couple few things, and I'm like, man, it

748
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:46.119
was like a city dump, a decay of some sort.

749
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:49.480
And the smell that I got and what I told him,

750
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:51.360
I was like, man, it's almost got like a thing

751
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:54.760
of burnt hair or something. And we kept standing there

752
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:59.440
and I actually stepped back to where I was and

753
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.039
I stepped right out of that smell, and I was like, man,

754
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.039
that is weird. And there happens to be a sinkhole

755
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.800
right there, and it's an old house foundation. That place

756
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.599
was an old farm at one time. And I looked

757
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:13.920
back over my shoulders where that sinkhole is, and I

758
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.039
told him, I, well, maybe it's trash or something seeping

759
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.480
out of that sinkhole. That trash pit over there, and

760
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:23.000
maybe someone threw something down there. And he's a man,

761
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:26.960
I don't know, that's just horrible. That's it. No no noises,

762
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:31.880
nothing happened, We leave, We go about of business. Nothing

763
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:35.039
really happened. I got We hunted that for a few years.

764
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:38.639
I ended up getting sick and hurting myself. I dropped

765
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:42.920
off that lease and I'm traveling that whole area down there.

766
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.599
I really fell in love with the National forest around it,

767
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:49.920
all the bucks that I killed, I'd never even killed

768
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:52.760
a deer on that property, or the years that I

769
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.199
hunted it and winsted. I did better on the concert

770
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:59.599
on the National forest side. And so that's uh I missed.

771
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:03.400
I take short break from it. That was during COVID

772
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.119
end of the around twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, and blew up.

773
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:09.639
Both my wrists had surgeries and all that. So I

774
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:14.519
ended up getting back healthy. Go back twenty twenty three

775
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:18.960
to the same to this hunting spot, and that year

776
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.239
was strange. My son and I showed up there. My

777
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.519
other partners, the hunting partner, he shows up, his brother

778
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:29.960
and a good friend of his and my cousin. My

779
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:33.079
son and I showed up first, and we get out

780
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:35.599
of the truck and it's dark. Both of us worked

781
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:38.440
all day and then went down there, so it's dark

782
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.679
when we get there. Him and I get out of

783
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:42.480
the truck. We parked where we're going to set up

784
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:44.599
our camp and everything, our tent, and him and I

785
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:47.760
get out, and of course we do the things you

786
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:50.840
do after a long trip, found the facilities and opened

787
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.280
up a beer meet him. Both are drinking a beer

788
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:56.960
and hear this rock from up on top of this

789
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.559
hill here and my son looks at me. Hear that,

790
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:03.239
and I go, yeah, I did. He goes, man, He goes,

791
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:04.880
that was a rock. He goes, think there's deer up

792
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:06.519
there kicking up rocks. I was like, I don't know,

793
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:08.480
so I would think that they would be bedded down.

794
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.239
I don't know if that would be an ideal spot

795
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.119
up there. I really haven't been up there. I don't

796
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.079
know what's up there, So we don't think nothing of it.

797
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:18.400
We continue to listen. Actually that made us go get flashlights.

798
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:22.119
So we went to get flashlights and we walked back

799
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.760
out the road. We're standing there. We don't hear any

800
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:28.280
more noise from up on top of that hill, and

801
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:32.440
we go about our business. Then the other guys starts

802
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:36.840
showing up, and the last guy to show up, Brian,

803
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:41.880
he pulls up, he gets out, he goes there's something

804
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:46.559
up there making noise, and my son he walks over

805
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:49.840
there and they're talking, and my son and told him, yeah,

806
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.320
we heard rocks calling off up there too, So we

807
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.159
don't think anything of it. There's something up there. It's

808
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:58.440
deer season. There's something up there, for sure, don't think

809
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.039
anything of it. Nothing really happened a twenty twenty three

810
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:06.119
year other than those rocks. Now we go to twenty

811
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:11.519
twenty four, and I I'd seen another UFO in the

812
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:14.559
span of time. I actually called this one into the

813
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:19.119
police and reported this one, and it was another crazy thing.

814
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:24.039
And the reason why I bring up the whole UFO

815
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:27.559
if I've heard you other guys talk about how maybe

816
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:31.639
there's some kind of correlation or something there. I don't know.

817
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.239
I don't know if there's anything there or not. But anyway,

818
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:38.960
I called and reported that one seeing it. So we

819
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:45.199
get to twenty twenty four last year, which turns out

820
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:50.239
to be exactly thirty years from my experience. I really

821
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:53.440
am after thinking about it, let me before I go

822
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:55.519
into that, hold on just one second. I've got to

823
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.360
back up just a little bit. This hunting partner that

824
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:03.719
I'm talking about. That I come across the whole thing

825
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.599
of the Sasquatch and all that was brought up by

826
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.880
a guy. I told you what my mom did. You

827
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:13.519
know what I grew up with and had seen over

828
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:17.119
in my young life growing up. I'd moved to another

829
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:20.840
I've got to tell this because this is what starts

830
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.320
the whole thing. I worked for this body shop. They

831
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:27.400
closed it down. I leave, I work at a few

832
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:32.000
other places. I get hired on by a national size

833
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:37.880
automotive shop, and I end up going through a few shops,

834
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.400
and I end up at the shop I had worked

835
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:45.280
at under these independent people in this particular company had

836
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:48.840
bought that shop. So I wanted to go back there

837
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:50.519
and just see what it was like and see what

838
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:52.800
this new company did and how they fix everything up.

839
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.320
So I go back to that shop. At that old shop,

840
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:58.360
me and this guy used to play these jokes on

841
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:00.159
each other, and we would try to sneak up on

842
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:02.880
each other and scare each other. Me and him both

843
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:06.239
would come and work early and all that. Even on

844
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:09.400
weekends we would work. I kept catching these things out

845
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:11.920
of corner of my eye and the shop, and it

846
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:14.519
got so bad. See sometimes I would think it would

847
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.000
be him, and I would go and look and there

848
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.480
would be nothing there. And I can't tell you how

849
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:20.800
many times this happened. This happened so much, and the

850
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.679
last time just broke the whole thing. And that's when

851
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:25.679
I went into the office when everybody got there, and

852
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:28.760
asked him what the hell was going on the last time.

853
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:33.480
I'm in this room and I'm doing my job and

854
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:35.960
I see something out of corner of my eye and

855
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.079
I thought, okay, I got you now. And I thought

856
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:39.800
it was this guy that I worked with, thought he

857
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.960
was sneaking up on me. So I walk out of

858
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.599
this room. I go to this bench and I'm completing

859
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:49.239
what I'm doing and I was catch him again coming

860
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.800
around the corner and I take off running after him.

861
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.000
I go, I got you this time. And I'd go

862
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:56.400
running around that corner and I run out into the

863
00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.199
open shop and all the lights are off. There ain't

864
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:03.679
nobody there, and I'm standing there. I'm like, okay, enough enough.

865
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:05.920
I've seen all that stuff as a kid. You know

866
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.280
that that stuff scares me because I was around that.

867
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:11.760
I've seen things like that. And I go and ask

868
00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:14.480
to tell the boss lady what was going on. She

869
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.719
goes like, oh, you've seen so and so. I'm like,

870
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:19.360
hold on a minute, you mean to tell me you

871
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:21.760
guys have a ghost kicking around this place? And here

872
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.840
I've been seeing this thing for the four and a

873
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:27.320
half years i've worked here, and never no one's ever

874
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:31.519
said anything. Anyway, She goes out of business. I leave.

875
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.079
I end up coming back when it's under new ownership

876
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:38.639
and there's guys there, and I'm there a week I

877
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:40.719
don't want to say anything too weird, too crazy, but

878
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.360
I don't want to think I'm a weirdo. So I

879
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.440
say something to them guys. I go, hey, I go,

880
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:49.719
or any of you guys seeing anything around here out

881
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:51.280
of the corner of your eye to come up here

882
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:54.159
and work on the weekend or something like that. The

883
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:58.440
one guy, he's he pays attention to what I'm saying,

884
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.400
and he's stopped. That's what he's doing, and he's looking

885
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:04.800
at me, and he goes, what do you mean? He

886
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.920
had an apprentice and his apprentice stopped and he's looking

887
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:11.639
at me. The other guy he's what do you mean?

888
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:14.440
I go, man, I go, I told him the whole story.

889
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:19.960
I just told you. Everybody said that same thing, and

890
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.920
he laughed and he blew it off. I'm nuts. He

891
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:26.480
makes a statement, he goes, do you ever have rockstorming

892
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:32.079
at you in the woods? And it freaking triggered something

893
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:34.800
in my mind, and I was like, as a matter

894
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:38.320
of fact, I have. And the guy's name's Lane. I

895
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:41.440
won't say his last name. His name is Lane. He's

896
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:43.079
the one that started this whole thing four and a

897
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:48.000
half years ago. But anyway, now getting onto the rest

898
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:52.000
of it, I after him saying that this thing popped

899
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.400
up on my phone and it happened to be Miguel's

900
00:49:55.480 --> 00:50:00.480
channel and I'll be darned if it's not talking about place.

901
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.559
And I made a comment on there and he got

902
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:04.599
ahold of me, sent me an email and see if

903
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:06.239
I wanted to talking. At the time, I really didn't

904
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:09.360
want to, but I told him that the story about

905
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:15.199
the rocks and it I made comments on the section there,

906
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:18.480
and I never did say tell him the story. I

907
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:21.719
wanted to, but at the time I didn't really think

908
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:25.199
about it too much. And that one episode, for whatever reason,

909
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.880
I wasn't looking for anything like that that started the

910
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:33.000
whole thing. I go to another shop and I meet

911
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:36.199
my hunting partner now my buddy now and his friends,

912
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.559
and then okay, we do to twenty twenty three and

913
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:42.159
twenty twenty four. So as a few years has gone by,

914
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:44.440
and him and I were down there last year, and

915
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:48.239
that last year was the thirty year of me having

916
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:53.360
rocks thrown at me years ago down around Walfapella, so

917
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:58.000
we're all excited. Nothing there tipped me off on anything.

918
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:00.400
Him and I went down on an early Turkey season there.

919
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:03.280
Now that was strange, but we didn't mark it off

920
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:07.119
to anything. Come to find out, this buddy mind justin.

921
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:11.360
He's big into this sasquatch and that he would listen

922
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.639
to podcasts. He's the one that turned me on to

923
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:18.039
some of them. I actually found your channel and turned

924
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:21.480
him onto your channel. So I just got engrossed with

925
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.280
all that. And he's big in that him and his

926
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:27.320
brother have found tracks. They have seen some things down

927
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:29.400
in an area I won't say the name of that,

928
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:32.400
which is an area where they're seen down there. There's

929
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:36.559
been experiences, lots of footprints in that. But anyway, he's

930
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:38.639
biger than that. So him and I were talking to become

931
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:42.079
good friends. We're hunting it next twenty twenty four for

932
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:46.639
down there first weekend. No one can show up. It's

933
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:48.679
just going to be me and him. My son at

934
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:53.719
the time had to work. My partner's buddy or his

935
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:56.480
brother wasn't able to come down, and his buddy didn't

936
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:58.679
come down but just one day, so it's just him

937
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.639
and either. I was worried about getting my spot, our

938
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.119
camping spot, so I take off and I go down

939
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.119
there ahead of time, and I sleep in my truck

940
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:13.400
and I'm there. I get down there early. I'm staying there.

941
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:15.639
I'm sleeping on my trucks running, and I'm listening to

942
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:19.239
Sasquatched Chronicles and I'm listening to all these podcasts, and

943
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.000
I'm thinking, man, get myself freaked out down here and

944
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:27.280
no big deal. Go to sleep, get up in the morning,

945
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.840
getting all my stuff ready. My buddy justin he shows up.

946
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:33.159
He's there, he's getting all this stuff ready, and I

947
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.360
look for something and I can't find it, and he's

948
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.320
come on, man, let's go, let's go. Come on. So

949
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.519
I've searched several times, can't find it. So and it

950
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:45.119
really bothered me. It was a backup battery for my

951
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:48.639
phone to charge my phone because I've already listened to

952
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.559
all these darn park podcasts and all this stuff, and

953
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.559
I've got it in my mind that I and I

954
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:58.239
had carried a backup battery before, but I never made

955
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.159
it a big deal. But this time I was making

956
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.119
a big deal because I want to. I didn't want

957
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:04.079
my phone to go dead. And the area down there

958
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:08.000
is you get mixed signals here and there. Sometimes you

959
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:10.639
won't get nothing at all. But anyway, we get down there.

960
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:14.559
Opening day is horrible. The wind is just so noisy.

961
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:16.559
Me and him are down there, and man, I heard

962
00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:20.159
the weirdest noises that day, and he did as well.

963
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:21.960
When we had went down a little bit earlier, it

964
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:26.880
was Turkey season, it was like creepy quiet, so quiet

965
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:30.599
almost hurt your ears. And at the time I didn't

966
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:33.960
really pay much attention to it. I think he did,

967
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:36.639
justin did, but I didn't really pay much attention to it.

968
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:40.119
It was so quiet it hurt, that's how quiet it was.

969
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:42.280
But anyway, he didn't get a turkey. Anyway, We're in

970
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.000
a deer season to get down there, and it's so

971
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:48.400
when we were down at the Turkey season, I had

972
00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:50.719
taken my motorcycle down and I went riding while he

973
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.639
was turkey on. Anyway, We're down there, we're about in

974
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:59.639
the field and it's the wind is blowing so and

975
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:02.199
it was it's just the craziest weird things. I start

976
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:06.440
hearing these mechanical noises, and first it was a someone

977
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:10.519
who was cutting grass, and then I hear someone weed eating,

978
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:13.599
then I hear someone cutting wood. I'm like, what is

979
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:16.800
going on around here? And where this is that it's

980
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:20.400
a pretty good way from anybody's place. I'm just hearing

981
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:25.559
all these different noises, and just it's all day long,

982
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:29.199
these different noises, and I'm like, I don't know, man,

983
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:31.440
that's the worst opening day of deer season I've ever

984
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:35.360
had in my life. And I keep hearing all these

985
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:42.400
weird noises. And if it wouldn't have done this last thing,

986
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.360
I wouldn't. I would have blew it off as just noise,

987
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:48.320
just wind noise to wind carrying the noise. My buddy

988
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:51.119
texted me and asked me if I've seen anything, and

989
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:53.679
I complained to him and we're both complaining nothing. This

990
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.119
is horrible day. This sucks. I get off the phone

991
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:00.960
with him with text message I get done, and it's

992
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:03.599
not long. We're getting ready to come on. So I

993
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:06.880
put my phone in my pocket, and all of a sudden,

994
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:12.599
You remember when you before they had the flip phones,

995
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:15.480
even you had the kids, and you had all these

996
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:18.880
notification noises that you could first set up for your

997
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:21.719
alarms and different things, and one of them was the

998
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.800
thing chimes. And I always I never did like that

999
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:28.639
freaking that notification bell. Never did like it. I put

1000
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:33.239
my phone in my pocket and I hear that notification

1001
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.039
that time's going off. I'm like, what, I don't have

1002
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.239
that for anything on my phone. I reach in, I

1003
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:43.320
pull out my phone and it's a black screen. And

1004
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:47.639
I thought, okay, man, all right, I can explain a

1005
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:52.480
lot of things away, and usually I do. I had

1006
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:55.880
made a comment to my buddy beforehand that I told

1007
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:59.199
him that I'm never going to not listen to the

1008
00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:02.199
sounds in the forest because I blew a lot of

1009
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:07.719
things off many different times, just my mind going that way.

1010
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:11.199
You rationalize things, and you'd make an excuse for it,

1011
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:13.280
or oh it's this, or oh it's that, or it

1012
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.639
is this. And I'm looking at my phone, I'm thinking, okay,

1013
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:20.880
all these noises, I've been listening to you all day.

1014
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:23.320
I know This wasn't my phone. My phone doesn't make

1015
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:26.760
that noise, and I just heard that. So I'm thinking, okay,

1016
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:28.639
this is just this is too much. End up. I

1017
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:31.039
come down, We go out to the trail meet up.

1018
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.760
We walk out, No big deal. We didn't hear anything.

1019
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:36.760
It was just horrible day. And I tell him about

1020
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:39.480
all these noises that I hear, and it was throughout

1021
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:41.599
the day. It was a bunch of them. Man. I

1022
00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:44.719
didn't really know where to go with any of it.

1023
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:48.599
It was just it was all this info in my head.

1024
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:51.800
So we have great night that night, have good food

1025
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:54.719
and drink a few beers, go to bed, and get

1026
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:56.440
up in the morning and do it all over again.

1027
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:00.559
We head out there and it was a better day,

1028
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:03.920
better than the first day. For sure, I'm going to

1029
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:08.039
get out there. I seen deer that morning. I missed

1030
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:12.599
the buck that I had been watching doing something stupid

1031
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.119
on this weird because if I would have stuck to

1032
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:17.559
my plan, I'd got him instead. At the last second,

1033
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:19.840
I decided to go twenty yards off to the other

1034
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.280
way and he comes in behind me. I got him,

1035
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:25.480
for sure. But anyway that happens, I get all bummed out.

1036
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:28.280
Don't really I see four do I see this nice buck,

1037
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:34.239
and it's I'm gonna walk out of there. Him and

1038
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:37.639
I meet up. We're gonna get something neat. We're gonna

1039
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:40.079
go back in and just crash out there the rest

1040
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:46.840
of the day. So we do that. Get back out there,

1041
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:51.159
and I go to the spot that I was at

1042
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:53.840
in the morning, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna

1043
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:56.480
go up on top of my this ridge that I hunt.

1044
00:57:56.519 --> 00:58:01.280
This place, I love it. It's super thick and it's

1045
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:03.519
some good ways back in there. And I get up.

1046
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:06.519
I climb this embankment and get up on top of

1047
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:10.400
the ridge. And it's a real narrow ridge and when

1048
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:13.079
you get up on top of it, you've got like

1049
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:16.639
ten or fifteen yards and it drops off into a

1050
00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:21.000
watershed and you have all these real hog backs. And

1051
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.960
I coming off this ridge and all these little drainers

1052
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:26.400
ditches and that, and I'm looking over at that whole

1053
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:30.480
watershed area, and that's where I had seen them four

1054
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:32.599
doose come from. So I get up on there and

1055
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:36.199
I lean up against the tree. Now I'm not there

1056
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:40.840
very long, and not very long, just about got comfortable.

1057
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:45.599
I wasn't setting down my stand isn't too far behind

1058
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:48.519
me and down the hill, and I'm standing there and

1059
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:50.920
lean up int the tree and I'm looking up this

1060
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:56.559
watershed and I catch something moving and it's between thirty

1061
00:58:56.639 --> 00:59:01.400
or forty yards from me, and it's dark colored, and

1062
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:03.880
I'm looking at it and I'm watching it and watching it,

1063
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:06.440
and like I said, I just about the time I

1064
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:09.920
seen that thing, and I'm getting I'm feeling comfortable, not

1065
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:12.360
too cold, not too warm. I walked a long ways

1066
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:16.880
back in there and it's perfect. I hear awesome my left,

1067
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:20.320
and here comes the most beautiful bobcat ever seen. He

1068
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:23.000
comes running. Almost I almost started to make me nervous

1069
00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:24.639
because I thought he was going to run right to me,

1070
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:28.559
but he wasn't looking at me, and he runs right

1071
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:32.119
up till within fifteen yards of me. He goes over

1072
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:34.559
and he's beside a tree and he's looking in that

1073
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:37.159
same watershed that I'm looking at. I thought, oh man,

1074
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:40.199
this is cool. And he was just beautiful. Now, I

1075
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:44.760
say he now. At the time, I didn't realize I

1076
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:47.880
thought it was a female. There's a difference between the

1077
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:51.599
pattern on the side of him, and I hadn't seen

1078
00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:58.159
a bobcat a long time, and I just you rationalize things. Okay,

1079
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:00.800
I'm looking at this thing up that water should when

1080
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:04.519
this bobcat comes right and it's we're looking in the

1081
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:08.519
same watershed and he's looking around and he sees something

1082
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:10.559
and he stalks down there and he jumps down on

1083
01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:12.800
the watershed and goes after it and he doesn't get it,

1084
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:16.079
and he turns and he walks up that watershed and

1085
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:18.440
I'm watching me and he's walking up to where that

1086
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:20.639
brown things. At the time, it looked real dark brown.

1087
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:24.280
Then he's walking up to it. I thought, okay, we'll

1088
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:29.320
see it was the weirdest thing. At first, I'm thinking,

1089
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:30.679
of my mind, he's going to kick it up out

1090
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.800
of there or something. And he walks up through there,

1091
01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:39.880
and he probably is. I keep saying he. At the time,

1092
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:43.519
I thought it was a she, and I'll just say

1093
01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:46.320
it that way. I see her. She's getting there and

1094
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:49.800
she's real close to this thing, and she goes straight

1095
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:52.679
to her belly, drops to the ground and stares at it.

1096
01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:56.320
I'm thinking, oh, she's got babies up there. It must

1097
01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:57.880
be her baby or something. Maybe she's going up there

1098
01:00:57.880 --> 01:00:59.519
and check her on. And I don't know why I

1099
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:02.159
even thought that because the thing that I'm looking at

1100
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:04.280
is it looks small, but I can't see all of it.

1101
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:06.480
And I'm looking at it's like, man, I don't even know.

1102
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:10.199
And she just drops to the ground and I'm watching her,

1103
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:12.239
and she stares at that thing for a little bit

1104
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:16.480
and she turns and she starts snaking down through there,

1105
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:20.159
and she's going close to the ground and she's coming

1106
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:23.280
right back down toward me, and she gets right across

1107
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:26.880
from me. And she gets right across from me, and

1108
01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:34.000
she gets across from me. I hear footsteps and at

1109
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:36.039
first I thought, okay, I got a deer coming up

1110
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:38.199
on me. But it wasn't a deer. It was a

1111
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:42.320
bipedal steps. And I'm leaning up the tree I'm leaning

1112
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.239
up against. I just leaned back and I rolled my

1113
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.360
head down and I'm looking down the ridge and I'm

1114
01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:49.360
looking to see what it is. And I'm looking at

1115
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:52.559
or what's coming at me, and I don't see nothing.

1116
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:56.400
There's nothing. It should have been right there that cat

1117
01:01:56.559 --> 01:02:00.400
was staring at. It was staring that way at that thing. Anyway,

1118
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:02.960
I'm looking up and I don't see anything. And in

1119
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:05.760
between where I'm looking atop of the ridge and down

1120
01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:07.679
where the cat is in the watershed. There's a little

1121
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:10.880
bit of brush and brambles and through there, and whatever

1122
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:13.920
I heard could have been going right into that area

1123
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:16.559
and I couldn't see it, but it's close. It was

1124
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.960
super close to me. Not as close as that cat got.

1125
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.800
But when I first heard that cat walking to me,

1126
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:25.159
that's about what it sounded like off through my right.

1127
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:29.039
So I'm staring down down that way for a long time.

1128
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:31.599
I say a long time, maybe a minute and a

1129
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:35.079
half or something, and nothing moves, and I lean back

1130
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:36.960
forward and I look at that cat, and that cat

1131
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:39.559
staring at me. So me and him we stare at

1132
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:42.760
each other for a minute, and then he just disappears,

1133
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:47.519
still standing by this tree, and I'm still I can

1134
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:50.440
see this brown thing up this creek and I'm watching it,

1135
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:55.119
and it's it's playing on the ground, is what I'm watching.

1136
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:58.840
It looks like it's you know, a cat, like a kitten,

1137
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:00.719
and they'll play with a ball and they go around

1138
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:03.360
on the floor and they're their paws are all over

1139
01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:07.599
the place, almost kind of I couldn't see a face,

1140
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.280
but whatever it was doing something, whatever it was doing

1141
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:12.280
something up there, and it's on the ground and I'm

1142
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.199
still thinking in my mind it must be a couple

1143
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:17.519
of kittens, bobcats kittens. And I'm watching this thing. And

1144
01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:22.679
I'm watching this thing, and this woodpecker goes off. He

1145
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.800
does five times and then it's like a mouth pop.

1146
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:29.760
It's a I thought, boy, he hit something hard, didn't

1147
01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:33.119
he And I'm look around and then he takes flight

1148
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:35.320
and he's not too far from him. He takes flight

1149
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:39.400
and he goes across that watershed about where that cat was.

1150
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:41.880
He gets on the tree and I'm watching him and

1151
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:43.480
he goes run to the backside the tree. I can't

1152
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:47.239
see him, and he starts packing thick how they are.

1153
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:53.719
As soon as he hits five times and he hits three,

1154
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:59.599
I'm like, well, that's strange. He hits something hard again.

1155
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.360
I'm thinking, wait a minute, what am I listening to

1156
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:05.320
you here? And he takes flight and he flies off,

1157
01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:08.840
and I'm trying to wrap my head around what I'm

1158
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:12.280
what I just heard and seen. And I'm in in

1159
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:17.519
front of me about there's two rock clacks clack and

1160
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:21.719
then clack clack. I'm like, that's rock clacks. Oh, I

1161
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:25.679
got goosebumps right now. And I'm standing there, and the

1162
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:28.679
first thing in my mind was I looked down to

1163
01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:31.280
that watershed and they had a record rain down there.

1164
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:33.599
I have all the years I hunted down there, I've

1165
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:36.559
never seen all the rocks in the watershed, okay, because

1166
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:39.639
it's always been leaf littered, right, I look down into

1167
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.559
that creek and it's a whole creek full of freaking rocks.

1168
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:45.119
I'm like, don't you dare do nothing? Because now I've

1169
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:47.320
done listen to all these podcasts and that, and I've

1170
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:50.000
listened to all these people in their accounts, and I

1171
01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:53.079
tell myself, I'm not gonna not pay attention to the

1172
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:58.159
sounds of the now. My mind is like crazy, and

1173
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:01.599
I'm like, oh man, So I just stood there and

1174
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:04.639
I tried not to let anything bother me. I didn't

1175
01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:08.239
make a noise. I'm just sitting there. I'm thinking myself, man,

1176
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:09.760
with you, I'm just going to stay here and just

1177
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:14.039
act like I don't even Everything is fine, everything's coach cool.

1178
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:16.480
And I go back to looking at that thing, and

1179
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:19.559
I don't hear no more noise coming from that little

1180
01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:22.559
area off to my right, and I get the idea

1181
01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:25.599
that I'm going to where that cat had stopped at

1182
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:27.679
and was buy that tree. I'm going to go to

1183
01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:30.039
that spot and I'm going to look up this cree.

1184
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:33.800
It gets me a little closer to this thing. So

1185
01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:36.559
I do that. I walk to that tree and I'm

1186
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:38.920
staring at it for a minute and looking at it,

1187
01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:42.280
and I reach down and I feel for my from

1188
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:47.320
a binoculars. Don't have them. I feel my other pocket

1189
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.760
from a rangefinder. I ain't got that neither. I'm like, okay, yeah, great,

1190
01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:53.159
I always had that stuff with me. I never not

1191
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:55.159
have that on me. One or the other of them?

1192
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:58.119
Are both of them? I'm thinking, damn it. So I'm

1193
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:00.000
sitting there and I'm looking up there and I'm watching

1194
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:01.519
this thing. And I watch it now I can see

1195
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:04.679
it a little better, and I'm still I'm not seeing

1196
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:08.599
a face. I'm not seeing anything. Whatever it is. It

1197
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:11.119
looks like it's playing around. And then it almost looks

1198
01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:13.559
like there was two of them, but I'm just gonna

1199
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:15.960
say that there was one. I even made the comment

1200
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:19.920
to friends that I seen two cats playing, two kittens playing.

1201
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:23.000
I told my sister that, but I away, I'm looking

1202
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:26.079
at this thing, and man, my mind is just going crazy.

1203
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:28.199
What the hell am I looking at? Here? I do

1204
01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:33.440
the one thing I've never done. I know better. I

1205
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:37.360
can tell you this that will never happen again. I

1206
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:40.599
do a stupid thing. I don't realize it's a stupid

1207
01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:45.079
thing until after I pull up my rifle and I

1208
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:47.119
put my rifle on that thing, and I'm trying to

1209
01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:51.679
see it, and I wear glasses. I've got a big scope,

1210
01:06:52.679 --> 01:06:56.880
so I pull up on it and I'm looking that

1211
01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:00.920
way and I can't see anything. So I dropped my

1212
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:02.280
gun down a little bit. See where I got the

1213
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:04.400
power set? Oh maybe I got turned up two hours something.

1214
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:06.199
And I put my glasses up on top of my

1215
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:08.800
hat and I pulled my rifle again. I'm looking in

1216
01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:11.199
there and I'm looking and I'm looking and I'm looking,

1217
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:13.800
and I can't find nothing. I've dropped my rifle down again.

1218
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:16.079
I put my glasses back on. I turned it all

1219
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:17.840
the way down as far as it will go, and

1220
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:20.280
I pulled my rifle back up. I'm like, this is

1221
01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:24.000
too weird. It's and I got my rifle up right

1222
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:26.000
at it, and I can I'm not looking through the scope.

1223
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.079
I'm looking down the scope and I'm watching this thing.

1224
01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:30.880
I put my scope back up and I can't see it.

1225
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:33.760
I'm like, what is this? And then I do it

1226
01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:36.239
again and I can't see it. I'm looking and I

1227
01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:40.519
just start getting methodical about where I'm looking at. I

1228
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.360
can't see it in the scope, but when I dropped

1229
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:47.800
my gun down, I'm looking at it. So the last

1230
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:51.800
time I dropped my gun and I'm looking at it

1231
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:57.159
over the top of my rifle and I'm thinking, I

1232
01:07:57.239 --> 01:07:59.920
what is this? I don't even know. At three four,

1233
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:03.559
the sun the sky opened up a little bit and

1234
01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:07.599
the sun come down and its shining right down through

1235
01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:12.239
the woods. And actually I got a little what I'm

1236
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:14.679
telling you right now took place before I pulled the

1237
01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:16.760
scope up on him and tried to see this thing.

1238
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:22.560
The sun come down through there, and it's shining right

1239
01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:24.640
where that thing's at. And I'm looking at this thing,

1240
01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:30.479
and I see this thing. It didn't have a foot

1241
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:31.920
on the end of it, and it didn't have a

1242
01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:34.479
hand on it on the end of it. Okay, this

1243
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:39.720
thing stands up like angels are singing. Oh. And I

1244
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:41.640
can see through the hair of it, and it's a

1245
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:44.479
chestnut color and here's about two and a half inches long,

1246
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:47.600
and it's a tanish colored skin and I'm looking at

1247
01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:50.760
I'm thinking, what does that. I'm thinking, wait, man, i've

1248
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:53.359
seen a bobcat. That's not a bobcat, because it must

1249
01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:56.640
be a tail of something. That's when I pulled my

1250
01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:59.239
rifle up down looking and then the clouds go back

1251
01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:01.119
and the sun's gone, and I go through the whole

1252
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:04.239
thing with the scope right and I've hold on the

1253
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:06.800
last time, and I'm looking at it and I the

1254
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:09.239
last time I do that. And I did that maybe

1255
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:11.640
four or five times, trying to see this. I'd taken

1256
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:16.159
my glasses off once put them back on. I can't

1257
01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:19.199
see it, and I'd start to drop my rifle and

1258
01:09:19.319 --> 01:09:24.319
from the property that I used to lead, I hear

1259
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:32.199
this and it's the words, and I'm thinking, and I

1260
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:34.560
turned and looked up the valet. I'm thinking, man, that

1261
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:36.960
sounds like my old hunting spot. I wonder if someone

1262
01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:39.920
is It almost sounded like I got a deer or

1263
01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:42.079
something or celebrate. And I'm thinking, damn, man, that was

1264
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:45.199
my old hunting spot up there. And I don't think

1265
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:48.880
nothing of it, nothing at all. And I was like, man,

1266
01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:52.920
it almost sounds like someone bitching at somebody, and I, man,

1267
01:09:52.960 --> 01:09:55.520
it's getting late and something told me, and listening to

1268
01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:57.119
all this stuff, and I'm thinking, you know what, I'm

1269
01:09:57.159 --> 01:09:59.079
not staying out here in the dark. I can't run,

1270
01:09:59.159 --> 01:10:02.000
I can't run away from anything. I got a bum leg.

1271
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:04.000
So I'm like, I'm just gonna come out of here early.

1272
01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:07.439
And I text my buddy Justin and I tell them like, hey, man,

1273
01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:10.079
I'm coming out. I'm not staying so dark. I'm coming out.

1274
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:13.840
And he's because I'm meekamp trail. So I start, I

1275
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:17.760
come down off this ridge and walking through the creek bottom.

1276
01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:21.479
I get to a dry, dry creek bed. I'm going

1277
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:25.840
to step. Get my stepping it's stuck down into that

1278
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:35.199
creek and here this thing let's off and it is Man,

1279
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:39.680
I have grew up on a place I've I've called

1280
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:42.960
the owls my whole life. My favorite is a barred owl.

1281
01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:45.319
I can get them cackling. It will sound like a

1282
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:49.159
whole forest full of monkeys. Man, the owls that we

1283
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:52.159
have around here. If you've never heard one, you would

1284
01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:55.640
swear that it's a monkey, as you would swear that

1285
01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:58.399
it's one. So I know what barn oles, I know

1286
01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:01.279
it barred owls. I know what the sounds of the

1287
01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:03.920
woods are and I'm getting ready to step down in there,

1288
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:07.640
and here it goes off the biggest barn awl I've

1289
01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:10.399
ever heard in my life, and in my mind it's

1290
01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:13.880
it's ten foot tall, and it's got a lung capacity

1291
01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:18.239
like a freaking elephant man, and it is so deep.

1292
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:23.039
I'm just like, don't you dare WoT at it? Don't

1293
01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:26.439
you dare? Who back to that thing that's not an owl?

1294
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:32.760
And I'm just froze, and I'm freaked out. I'm froze,

1295
01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:38.399
and I'm like, and it's close, it's close. I still

1296
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:41.000
haven't even got across this creek. I haven't got down

1297
01:11:41.079 --> 01:11:43.840
in the creek yet. And I still got about thirty

1298
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:46.359
yards ago before I even step out onto the trail,

1299
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:49.920
and maybe forty yards even. I'm like, ho week, how

1300
01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:54.640
I got my rifle on my hand. I clicked the

1301
01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:58.319
safety off. I was like, okay, as we're doing this, man,

1302
01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:02.319
And finally I can unfreeze a little bit and I

1303
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:04.319
can move and I take a step. I get down

1304
01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:07.800
in the creek and I'm beelining for that trail and

1305
01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:10.199
I know sooner step out on the trail. I looked

1306
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:12.760
to my left down the trail and ibout one hundred

1307
01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:15.199
and seventy five hundred and fifty maybe two hundred yards away,

1308
01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:18.960
and probably wasn't that. But there's my buddy standing on

1309
01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.760
the trail. I step out on the trail, look at him,

1310
01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:25.720
and I know Sue look at him, and hear it,

1311
01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:29.479
who's at me again? And it seemed like he was

1312
01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:32.159
thirty yards right in front of me. And I look

1313
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:35.640
back up the trail and I'm like, holy cow, that's

1314
01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:37.840
right there, man, it is right there. And I've got

1315
01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:40.760
my rifle in my hand. I'm looking that way. I

1316
01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:43.239
turned to look over my shoulder to see what my

1317
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:46.319
buddy's doing, and he's staring off of the other way.

1318
01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:49.239
He's staring up off of the ridge that he was

1319
01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:52.600
hunting on, and he's staring that way. I'm thinking, oh, man,

1320
01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:55.640
what's he staring at. I turned back around and hear

1321
01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:58.479
this thing yells at me again and it is the

1322
01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:00.840
deepest I can tell you what it says. Guy who's

1323
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:03.680
got a video out, and it's a kid who's on

1324
01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:07.199
his uncle's farm and he's picking mushrooms and he finds

1325
01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:09.720
a mushroom that's got a bite out of it, and

1326
01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:12.039
he stands up and this thing yells at it, that

1327
01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:14.640
is what yelled at me, but mine was more of

1328
01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:18.680
a baritone base, real super deep. And it said a word.

1329
01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:21.399
I don't have no idea what it said, but it

1330
01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:24.479
yells at me, and it said that word, and I

1331
01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:27.119
put the safety on my rifle. I shouldered my rifle

1332
01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:28.840
and I put my hands out. I was like, listen,

1333
01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:32.399
I'm sorry. Then it's dawning on me. Maybe it's from

1334
01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:36.520
listening to me podcasts, I don't think. So I shouldered

1335
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:38.479
my rifle, I put my hands out. I told him

1336
01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:42.039
I was sorry. I wasn't gonna shoot it. I'm thinking

1337
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:46.319
whatever I seen was a baby one is what I think.

1338
01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.319
I think, and the reason that I went back at

1339
01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:52.760
a later date to see what was there and what

1340
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:56.359
it was in was an old tree that was rotted.

1341
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.359
I'm just thinking that maybe it was they left there

1342
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:03.640
during the day. There's a hidden pond not too far

1343
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:07.880
from there. We didn't find a huge twisted tree, which

1344
01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:09.960
I don't know if I got a chance to send

1345
01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:11.800
you the picture of it yet. I have a picture

1346
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:14.760
of it. It's not too far from where this happened.

1347
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:19.479
But I apologize told him I had no intentions of

1348
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:23.279
shooting anything. I couldn't see it. I just backed out

1349
01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:26.159
of there a little bit. I finally turned and I'd

1350
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:30.079
be lyining for him. And now as I'm approaching him,

1351
01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:32.039
he finally takes his eyes back off the ridge and

1352
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:34.680
he's looking at me. I get close to him. He's, man,

1353
01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:39.920
will you do alcohols? I'm going no, he's what. He goes,

1354
01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:42.119
you weren't doing alcohols. I'm like, no, I wasn't. Man.

1355
01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:44.319
I go, did you just hear that all up there?

1356
01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:47.640
He goes no. I go, you didn't hear that monster

1357
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:49.680
awl up there, that great big, that ten foot tall

1358
01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:51.680
barn aisle. He's no, I go, did you hear the

1359
01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:54.199
guy yell at me? He goes no, And he didn't

1360
01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:56.760
hear that either. And we weren't that far apart from

1361
01:14:56.800 --> 01:15:01.359
each other, and he goes, dude, He goes, I thought

1362
01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:03.479
you were I'll call and he goes, there was an

1363
01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:06.840
howl around me that sounded just like you. He goes that, bard,

1364
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:08.800
I'll call that you do. He said it sounded just

1365
01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:11.319
like you. I go, you're kidding me. He says no, man,

1366
01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:13.199
he goes, I heard it multiple times. He goes, that's

1367
01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:15.840
what I was looking at he goes, because when I

1368
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:18.560
was in the stand or in my place, he goes

1369
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:20.279
at hooted at me, and he goes, it was hooting

1370
01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:24.159
at me. Then I'm like, oh man, that's just too weird.

1371
01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:26.880
We get out of there, We talk about it a

1372
01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:32.479
little bit. Things kind of start gelling. After the fact,

1373
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:35.720
I start thinking about all the things and noises that

1374
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:40.000
I had heard that chimes I marked it off. Is

1375
01:15:40.039 --> 01:15:44.199
that what that notification was, what I came to realize was,

1376
01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:48.800
is that the song of my buzzer in my truck

1377
01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:53.600
sounds just like that we had been down there before.

1378
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:55.439
Like I said, I heard a motorcycle and all that.

1379
01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:59.239
Then all this stuff starts down on me. I'm thinking

1380
01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:03.359
all the noises that I heard were the noises that

1381
01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:06.840
that me and him, my son and all of us

1382
01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:09.199
have made down there. I know I might be reaching,

1383
01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:12.039
just grabbing a little bit of straws, but it's just

1384
01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:16.000
hold on a minute, man, just hold on. It's too much.

1385
01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:19.920
It's just like overload. Me and him, we talked about

1386
01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:21.840
it for the course of the year. When we start

1387
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:24.319
talking about going, want to go someplace else, finding a

1388
01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:27.039
place not so crazy. I want to enjoy myself. That

1389
01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:30.359
that's not enjoyable. Be careful the things that you wish for.

1390
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:33.199
I can't say that's what I've seen, but I can

1391
01:16:33.279 --> 01:16:35.560
tell you this. I pointed a gun at something and

1392
01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:39.520
something got mad about it, and it came to me

1393
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:43.439
that it came to me, and it let me know.

1394
01:16:44.840 --> 01:16:46.760
It seemed me do that. I don't know how. I

1395
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:49.439
had no idea how it felt that maybe whatever it

1396
01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:52.479
was beside me or real there close to me, maybe

1397
01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:55.439
it was maybe the mother. I never did see her.

1398
01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:59.119
I know the noises that she made. You know that

1399
01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:03.359
the mouth pops and the rock clocks younger experience with

1400
01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:05.640
heaving rocks, throw it at me. I didn't do anything.

1401
01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:07.600
Then I thought I got a whole creek full of rocks.

1402
01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:10.880
They'll kill me. That was just the whole place is

1403
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:14.279
where we leave out of there. We wanted to get

1404
01:17:14.279 --> 01:17:16.600
another spot, so not too long ago, a couple of

1405
01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:21.319
months ago, we head down to it's around Duke, Missouri area,

1406
01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:23.479
in that area right there, not too far from Fort

1407
01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:28.520
Lnderwood Army Days, Mark Twain National Forest, and me and

1408
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:30.760
him we laugh about this because you can't even make

1409
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:32.399
this up. Me and him, we go down there. We

1410
01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:36.520
go to look for a spot where it's not so active,

1411
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:39.760
where we can feel comfortable. We go down there and

1412
01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:42.359
we find it, right, We find this real cool spot

1413
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:44.560
and we walk back in there and we find it all.

1414
01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:47.800
It's great. It's a wonderful spot. I've already got thinking

1415
01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:50.800
where I'm putting my ten at. And we look around.

1416
01:17:51.079 --> 01:17:53.479
We find that there's a little pond and all this stuff,

1417
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:55.680
and this is great. This is going to be our

1418
01:17:55.720 --> 01:17:58.439
backup spot. Something crazy happens over there, we can come

1419
01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:01.039
over here. We will make this primary spot and make

1420
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:06.079
that secondary spot, right man. And we're talking and we're

1421
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:07.960
talking about how much we like this place, and we're

1422
01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:11.239
walking out of all of a sudden, this this noise.

1423
01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:14.359
I don't know. He said it sounded like a broke

1424
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:18.039
a broken branch, to like something breaking a branch. What

1425
01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:20.199
I heard it almost sounded like like when you put

1426
01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:22.199
a mouth reading you go to cluck for a turkey.

1427
01:18:22.319 --> 01:18:24.920
You're getting up to that. It was like at the

1428
01:18:25.159 --> 01:18:28.439
end before you go blow. It was that last cluck.

1429
01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:31.960
It was like a cluck and then the freaking it clashed,

1430
01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:35.079
and then it was quiet, and me and him both

1431
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:39.560
we freezing our footsteps. I pull out my camera. I'm

1432
01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:42.520
starting to videotape. He pulls out his pistol, he racks

1433
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:45.640
her shell, and we're standing there and we're just froze,

1434
01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:48.880
and I'm panning around and I'm thinking we just walked

1435
01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:51.800
out of the woods coming. So I slowly turned. I'm

1436
01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:53.439
looking down the road and I'm like, I might not

1437
01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:55.319
see it, but maybe I can pick up something. You know,

1438
01:18:55.880 --> 01:19:00.159
me and are quite hopeful of this. We stand here

1439
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:04.720
for a minute and he's he gives me his phone.

1440
01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:07.960
He does a few things give back to him. He

1441
01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:09.800
turns and looks at me. He goes, you do know

1442
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:12.760
that you hear a noise like that? I gotta go see.

1443
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:15.000
I gotta go see what's over there. I'm like, cooky,

1444
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:17.960
all right, guess see, all right, but I go, I'm

1445
01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:20.319
just gonna stand right here. I can see the truck.

1446
01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:22.800
I'm worth forty yards from truck, fifty yards from the truck.

1447
01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:25.439
I'm just gonna stand right here. And so he walks

1448
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:28.359
off into the woods and he gets a little ways

1449
01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:30.760
from me, and I see him walking around. I make

1450
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:33.000
some jokes. I'm videotape and he might go, oh there

1451
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:35.720
he goes as he's walking away, justin is big guy,

1452
01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:39.720
and I'm just chuckling to myself, and then he goes, hey, Matt,

1453
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:42.880
come here and look at this, and every time he

1454
01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:48.960
does that, I'll go, okay, I'm coming over there. So

1455
01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:51.039
I start heading toward him and shut my phone off.

1456
01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:55.680
Walk over there, and he's videotaping something on the ground

1457
01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:57.560
right and he's looking at you. What do you think

1458
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:00.399
about this? And I look and I go about that,

1459
01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:03.520
and he turns and looks towards me and there's this

1460
01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:08.520
fred footstone looking fucking a footprint right there. It's about

1461
01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:11.720
fourteen inches long, about six to eight inches wide. It

1462
01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:15.119
wasn't real big. I'm sitting there, I'm looking at it,

1463
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:18.399
and the problem was for me personally. He's got it

1464
01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:22.520
all on. He was videotaping it, and I couldn't feel

1465
01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:26.199
or see a distinct toe in it, the toes. So

1466
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:28.159
I'm looking at it and he goes, man, I didn't

1467
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.239
even see that he's videotaping. I'm looking at it. I

1468
01:20:31.319 --> 01:20:34.239
was like, man, I'm not going to say that's a footprint.

1469
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:36.199
I can't feel the toes in it. You can't really

1470
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:39.760
see it. It could have been a squirrel. He goes, okay,

1471
01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:43.039
and he goes, what about this one, And I'll be darned,

1472
01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:47.079
it wasn't eighteen inches away from it, there's this footprint

1473
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:50.319
it would be like my left foot. And it wasn't big.

1474
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:53.079
It was twelve inches long, matter of fact, and the

1475
01:20:53.119 --> 01:20:56.640
same size as my foot with a shoe on. I

1476
01:20:56.840 --> 01:20:58.920
put my foot beside it. That's about the same size

1477
01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:01.359
as my foot's. He goes, but look at these other

1478
01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:05.399
three prints, and he shows me. I'm like, oh wow,

1479
01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:08.680
look at that. And it was like it playing it

1480
01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:12.039
on its left foot, and it was like it was

1481
01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:15.680
going in another direction. Now, the big footprint that I

1482
01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:19.439
found that was fresh. These other footprints they were old.

1483
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:23.800
They were in the ground and they were old. So

1484
01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:26.880
I'm looking at it and he's and he's videotaping where

1485
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:30.560
it goes. So I'm like okay. And I put my

1486
01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:33.279
hand down in there. And another thing. Didn't take pictures

1487
01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:36.439
of it. He did. He videotaped it. I put my

1488
01:21:36.479 --> 01:21:38.359
hand down in there, and I couldn't feel any COEs.

1489
01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:41.039
I couldn't see him. But it's a depression in the dirt.

1490
01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:44.119
It was. It happened whenever it was wet, So I

1491
01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:46.159
was like, okay, So I picked up my foot. I

1492
01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:47.800
put my foot in there, and it was a dead

1493
01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:50.960
ringer for my foot. I'm like, damn, my foot, that's right,

1494
01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:53.960
and they're perfect. So I look off to my right

1495
01:21:54.079 --> 01:21:56.159
to where that other one is, and like I said, man,

1496
01:21:56.199 --> 01:21:58.880
I got thirty six inch in scene. I've got a

1497
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:01.760
big long step. So I got my foot in there,

1498
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:03.800
and I go to put my reach out with my

1499
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:06.199
right foot and I stepped as far as I almost

1500
01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:08.680
pulled my groin muscles. I couldn't hardly make it to

1501
01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:11.720
the other track, and that was jumping pushing myself off

1502
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:14.079
with my left foot. Matter of fact, it was so

1503
01:22:14.359 --> 01:22:17.359
far and it hurt a degree that I didn't even

1504
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:20.960
try to put my left foot in that other footprint.

1505
01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:23.800
And the weird thing is we didn't mean him. We

1506
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:27.439
didn't see that. What's strange is what took place for

1507
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:31.159
us to walk forty feet off the woods, off the

1508
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:35.159
road into the woods and to find this. And it's

1509
01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:38.479
just the weirdest thing what started it off. Here We're

1510
01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:42.159
wanting to go somewhere and not have any crazy things happening,

1511
01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:45.399
and then we're scout in this area and then this

1512
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:48.800
happens and we find these footprints, and those were my

1513
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:51.399
first footprints that I've ever seen. He's got pictures of

1514
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:54.800
one that he's found, but I'm looking at those ones

1515
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:56.439
that I put my foot in. And it was the

1516
01:22:56.520 --> 01:22:59.239
craziest thing. Because people say they walk like on a

1517
01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:04.439
tight rope. I couldn't. There's that was almost like I said,

1518
01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:06.359
the third footprint, I wasn't going to be able to

1519
01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:08.640
put my foot in it. We don't walk like that.

1520
01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:12.680
The man. They were in perfect line with each other,

1521
01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:15.920
Jess and I wish I would have measured it or something.

1522
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:19.560
All I can tell you is that they were far apart,

1523
01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:22.239
and I don't know if it was running. I had

1524
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:25.920
no idea. Could have been someone. Yeah, maybe it would

1525
01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:27.640
have to have been a big old boy with big

1526
01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:31.199
long legs with a pair of boots on. We didn't

1527
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:36.079
see it. I don't know. I don't know, man. Sorry,

1528
01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:38.119
I didn't stop too much there to let you have

1529
01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:41.560
if you want to ask you so, you're good.

1530
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:45.720
I just is this one of those things where the

1531
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:50.319
story needs to deeds to be told, and sometimes that's

1532
01:23:50.359 --> 01:23:50.880
what happened.

1533
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:55.239
No, man, Wow, And there's just more. There's more than that.

1534
01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:58.800
I've been standing on down at Stockton Lake. Me and

1535
01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:01.720
an old buddy mine. He's in his seventies and him

1536
01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:03.600
and I are were standing there. We're doing work for

1537
01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:06.039
the city of Greenville and we're standing down there and

1538
01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:08.680
we leave our little hotel room. We go down to

1539
01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:11.399
the water and we're down there and I'm drink a

1540
01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:13.920
few beers and he and it's getting late at night.

1541
01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:16.279
It's there, we're going to have a few more beers

1542
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:18.439
and we're going back crash out, but we wanted to

1543
01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:20.039
see the water. He looks at me, Hey, man, do

1544
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:22.439
one of them do one of your alcohols? And I

1545
01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:24.760
let off Usually if I get a few beers and

1546
01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:27.079
I can really let one go. Man, I let off

1547
01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:31.039
this bard alcohol. And I kid you not. The thing

1548
01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:34.560
that answered me was a gorilla. It did not answer

1549
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:38.279
me as another owl. This thing answered me. It just

1550
01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:42.760
and it just freaked out. It had a freak out

1551
01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:45.560
over my alcohol. And he looks at me and he goes,

1552
01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:47.640
that was a freaking gorilla. Man, let's get out of here.

1553
01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:49.680
And when we finished our beer and we went back

1554
01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:54.079
to our hotel room. That's pretty funny. But I didn't

1555
01:24:54.119 --> 01:24:56.279
think anything of that then, you know what I mean?

1556
01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:58.760
That was the farthest thing from my mind. I never

1557
01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:02.600
even I don't know, man, I just think about all

1558
01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:04.760
the stuff over the years and the things that that

1559
01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:10.000
I and have heard, and I've heard many of your

1560
01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:13.560
guests say some things that just all fall along and

1561
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:16.760
you're like, hey, wait a minute, it's man.

1562
01:25:18.199 --> 01:25:21.399
It takes me a few minutes to just think about

1563
01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:24.680
the entire scope of what you just shared. And there's

1564
01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:28.079
a lot, a lot to it. And would you say,

1565
01:25:28.359 --> 01:25:31.720
is it sounds like you have other stuff going on

1566
01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:32.359
as well?

1567
01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:36.640
From no? No? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. You had a guy

1568
01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:39.479
on there up there by bush Wildlife. I made a

1569
01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:42.600
comment on there about here and hearing the noise. Listen,

1570
01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:46.039
I know that now, I know that people other people

1571
01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:48.960
up there have heard noises up there. Okay, the noise

1572
01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:51.880
I heard up there was in the middle of wintertime,

1573
01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:53.920
and it was in the teens and we had been

1574
01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:57.520
drawn for a specialty hunt, a bow hunt, and I

1575
01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:00.840
was walking in between two of these lakes time and

1576
01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:03.520
I'm going back to my stand. It's in the middle

1577
01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:06.520
of night, no flashlight, like an idiot. There was snow

1578
01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:09.239
on the ground and it was cold, real cold. And

1579
01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:11.880
I got in between them two lakes and I'm approaching

1580
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:15.640
the creepiest area right before my stand that you could

1581
01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:18.960
possibly walk through. I'm getting ready to go into that area,

1582
01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:20.760
and I'm thinking, man, that's a creepy spot. I hate

1583
01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:24.119
the spot. I take one step and this thing lets

1584
01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:30.119
off in screams. I listen. I almost peed myself standing there.

1585
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:33.119
And I stood there for a long time, and I

1586
01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:36.399
a long time, A very long time. I stood there

1587
01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:38.800
before I got up enough courage to go to my

1588
01:26:38.920 --> 01:26:41.560
sand and that in the evening, I said it to

1589
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:44.039
my buddies, you know what I heard? And my buddy goes, oh,

1590
01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:47.239
that was the ice, And I'm thinking, you know what,

1591
01:26:47.479 --> 01:26:49.760
there was big cracks in that ice. Maybe the ice

1592
01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:52.479
will shifting and screaming. Listen. I don't know if that's

1593
01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:54.479
what it was. I had no idea. That's why I

1594
01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:58.039
marked it off as But there's all kinds of strange

1595
01:26:58.039 --> 01:27:01.720
stuff up there. Man, I guess I've been whistled by.

1596
01:27:03.359 --> 01:27:06.239
This is one of those episodes that gets me because

1597
01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:12.560
I feel like we could continue this because we are

1598
01:27:12.720 --> 01:27:16.560
just getting into an area where there's a lot going on,

1599
01:27:17.279 --> 01:27:20.239
and then maybe we can have some discussion as well.

1600
01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:23.159
I don't know if you'd be yes, you'd feel.

1601
01:27:23.439 --> 01:27:25.600
I've got a question for you. I've got a big

1602
01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:28.079
question for you. I listen to a lot of your stuff.

1603
01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:31.560
Is there something that you're putting together as far as

1604
01:27:32.279 --> 01:27:35.880
mineral features in areas put things? Does that sound so?

1605
01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:40.600
No, I'm starting to look into the correlation between magnetic

1606
01:27:40.680 --> 01:27:45.840
anomalies and bigfoot hotspots on the side. Yeah, ok yeah,

1607
01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:49.039
look up maps of magnetic anomalies they have the US

1608
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:51.079
government has those. You can find out and it will

1609
01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:53.399
really open your eyes when you start looking at certain

1610
01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:56.800
areas and you're, oh, that makes sense, that's a bigfoot area.

1611
01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:58.760
So yeah, check that out.

1612
01:27:59.079 --> 01:28:01.039
No, I will definitely do that. That's interesting.

1613
01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:04.720
Absolutely, But Matt, let's be in touch. I think we

1614
01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:08.920
need to continue this conversation for sure, because I've been

1615
01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:09.359
making that.

1616
01:28:12.359 --> 01:28:14.640
I've got some pictures coming to you. Okay, I'm gonna

1617
01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:17.600
try to get my see my buddy if he's what

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01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:20.319
he's he says he hasn't looked at too much of

1619
01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:23.399
what he videotaped that day. Well, if I can get

1620
01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:25.399
that from him, I know I can even a picture.

1621
01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:26.359
I'll send you the pictures.

1622
01:28:27.279 --> 01:28:31.960
Yeah, anything you can send, we definitely check it out. Yeah,

1623
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:35.079
But yeah, I think I think, Matt, we're looking at

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01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:37.239
a part two here. It's going to continue.

1625
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:42.840
Oh man, that sounds great. Man. Hopefully not too much

1626
01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:43.800
where I hunt at dang it.

1627
01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:47.520
But I thank you so much for coming on and

1628
01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:51.840
for sharing. Thank you for your story so far is incredible.

1629
01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:54.560
Just to say, I've never heard an account where someone

1630
01:28:54.680 --> 01:28:59.520
has seen a young one like that's just an incredible account.

1631
01:28:59.640 --> 01:29:02.920
And I do really want to continue this. Feel free

1632
01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:05.760
to set up a second time as you did the

1633
01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:10.560
first one. And yeah, we will definitely continue this conversation

1634
01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:13.560
and have some discussion about what's gone on so far.

1635
01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:16.119
Hey, that sounds good man. I appreciate it very much,

1636
01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:19.640
and I'll be talking to me, dear Mayah, Buddy, I'll

1637
01:29:19.640 --> 01:29:20.039
see you later.

1638
01:29:20.119 --> 01:29:22.079
Thanks, Yes, sir, you have a good one. We will

1639
01:29:22.119 --> 01:29:25.000
be in touch, all right, Okay.

1640
01:29:25.079 --> 01:29:28.000
We definitely will, Durremiah, I'll see later, buddy, you got it.

1641
01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:31.760
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

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directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

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