Police Officer's Terrifying Sasquatch Standoff

0:00 I'm gonna have to shoot the thing and empty my gun into it, you know, or it's going to rip me apart. Welcome to the Big Fist Society podcast. In this episode, we talked to Sean Ritz, hired police officer who added a stunning sasquatch encounter in northern Michigan that he won't soon forget, and I'm sure you won't either. What happened to Sean when he came face to face with the sasquatch and what steps did he have to take to get out of their live find out this and more on this week's episode of Big Fast Society. All Right, I've got Sean with us tonight. He'd us have a encounter to share. How are you doing tonight, Sean, I'm doing very well. How are you doing tonight? Oh, I'm doing great. We are just hanging out in Iowa out here, gearing up for maybe some snow tomorrow. But it's always a great night when I'm able to talk to someone about what they have experienced to help listeners figure out what they've experienced too. But Sean, go right ahead and let's let's start chatting.

1:29 So fill me in what we've got, what we had happened to you here, well November it well, it was on the thirteenth in nineteen eighty three. We were what turned out to be the last trip to the hunting gabin that my dad, my uncle Mick Bilt after World War Two in Glenney, Michigan. I'd gotten up about a week early. I had planned on doing some fishing and some bow hunting before rifles see, and it started. So I was up by myself, and you know, and usually the first guy there gets to you know, cut the wood and do things like that. And it was really was nothing unusual, you know, going on. And I had come up from Arizona. I was born and raised here, while my mom's family was from Michigan, and you know, so we had a lot of connections back there. And that was just a scenario where my my dad kind of fell in love with two um But anyway, so I had been up doing the chores and you know, like and it was just things started feeling a little strange. It wasn't it wasn't like I could really put my finger on anything, but you know, and I'd been a police officer by this time for nearly five years, so I had a what I would

3:04 consider to be kind of a heightened um sense of awareness when things were watching me or things were things were strange and it just felt off. Um, so I you know, I don't know. But otherwise it was normal, if that makes any sense. When you said it felt off that, I find that really interesting. Do you did it? Can you describe, like what what fell off about the situation? It felt like I was being watched. Um, not not in a predatory way. Um. I'm a real big believer in pheromones um and chemical reactions because you know, I haven't been a police officer. I've been around pre predat tory and feral humans, you know, for about five years, and that was pretty well convinced by that time. And the consensus was when they're giving off pheromones, you know, our body's hardware to pick that up from years and years of survival and uh, you know the prehistorical you know, instinctive things like that you don't see.

4:27 You developed that sense and everybody has it. It just felt like there was something around that was watching me. It felt like the hairs in the back of my neck would stand up every once in a while if I was facing away from the tree, line, and I it's a really coniferous forested area up there's a lot of time, very very thick, so you can't really see into the tree line much more than a few feet um. But I didn't see any movement, didn't hear any movement, But I felt like I was being watched, if that makes any sense at all. It's just, uh, it was a feeling that I had. It wasn't I know, some people talk about what do they call it, mind speak, you know, things like that, where they're being communicated with. It was none of that. It was purely biological. So I don't know if that helps, but it's the best way that I could describe it. As I had to go to court. That was That's what I would say. You know, it was just a gut feeling. There were no smells, you know, I remember, there was nothing smelled odd, you know, very piny um, very um, you know. And it was November, so you know, there's a lot of leaf cover on the ground, and you know,

5:59 so the leaves were damp, they were wet, you'll see that smell. It just it smelled normal, you know. There was nothing um that I could put my finger on that any sense that we're out of out of whack, how far away, how far in the woods? Is this location just for people that might not be able or that might not be familiar with the town that you had mentioned. Oh, okay, it's it's about it's the crow Flies about becausteen miles outside of the town itself, but off the main road. It's about four and a half miles um and it's all too tract old fire lane and like residentially cleared roadway. So you're you're you're responsible to keep your own roadways open to the your your properties down there, and they're all we're back to then. I don't know how many would be there now, but back then maybe between the road and where we the main road where we were, or a hat or other cabins, So it was really remote and we only had about a half acre cleared where the trees had been cut down, so very very thick. And that's that's about where we were.

7:27 I can already tell that what you whatever you experienced, affected you in a way that has not affected everyone that I've talked to you so far. You definitely it's this is going to be a very interesting story for sure. Well, I mean it doesn't feel like like a lot of people try to attach what you know, pts to it and things of that nature. It wasn't that it was weren't it. Looking back, it's kind of a sense of wonderment, you know it was. It's like, oh, now I can look back thirty years later ago. That's really cool. Um, Because I've always been not necessarily interested in quote unquote big Foot or the you know, that whole thing. It's like, yeah, I saw it on in search of when I was a kid, okay, um, but it was never really much more than a passing interest. Um. But so when I saw it, it was like, wow, you know, they were they were right, these things were real. So but but I mean it's opened up. It's it's opened my mind to possibilities that I didn't think we're there before, you know. And I tend to be an open minded skeptic.

8:54 Um. I want to be able to see it, touch it, feel it. As far as evidence goes, Um, I don't take anyone's word for anything unless there's corroborating evidence to support it. So um, that was like the corroborative evidence that I needed once or once I had seen it. But anyway, um. So, yeah, it was about three days and you know, things were things were just being um, I just felt like I'd been watched. Um even but as I said before, you know, no sounds, no smells, there was nothing that wasn't in place. You know, everything just seemed normal other than that. But you know, so i'dn't anyway. I'd been cutting wood and doing all the chores, and you know, we had a shooting range at the cabin, and you know, so I wanted to make sure that my rifle was zeroed in, and I wanted to make sure that my pistal was zeroed into the AMMO that I brought because I was actually gonna hunt with my pistol. And so I said at the target, and I started to shoot, and I don't know, I probably fired five rounds out of my rifle and you know, verified that it was zero Dan. I think I fired, you know, if I remember

10:24 correct, I fired like one magazine out of my pistol. It was a block twenty ten millimeter, and you know it was it was I think, these stupid little details they keep coming back, but it was. You know, I had an inch high, which you know would have been perfect because a long shot up there because the woods are so dense, maybe twenty five yards um. I think the longest shot I ever made on a deer was probably closer to thirty And you know that was hunting there since fourteen years old. But what stands out is when I got done, I heard, because I was packing up, I heard like an It was a drawn out, breathy move, like it started off like it was coming out of someone's stomach, the sound, and it had a really distinct F sound at the end, and you know, I just I that just kind of stopped me dead in my tracks. You know. I had to look around and I you know, and I couldn't see anything. And it was weird because I thought, you know, wow, it's a bear, you know, and we had bear up there, but you know, I've only ever seen one.

11:50 I'd seen tracks, I had seen scat, but I hadn't really seen the bear. So it was the first thing that come. Then I get to think of, you know, like, there's nothing out here or that makes a sound with an F sound at the end. You know, it's a sibilant sound. You need you know, you need you know, humanoid lips to be able to make that sound. But anyway, you know, I put that out. I'm like, okay, you finish, finish what I'm doing. It cleaned up, and then I was about halfway back to the cabin. I mean it was only a fourty or fifty feet that surrounded it and came from another side of me. Then I heard it again, you know, like and now I figured somebody was messing with me. You know, I went and you know, my my investigated brain turned on. I'm like, all right, now there's somebody's got to be out there. So I yelled, and you know, I don't want to you know, the profanity that they yelled, but you know, I told them, right they're going to show themselves or you know, things were things, We're gonna get ugly. And nothing did. And I moved a little bit more, and then I started hearing like really distinct heavy footballs, and they were going away from me and definitely by people. You know, you know, clod of head animals tend to be much more even when they're moving through heavy brush.

13:22 You might hear the brush, but you don't really hear the footballs because they're you know, more of a gentle footed animal. I mean, even my horse, you know, when my horses are walking there, you know, you can hear the crops, but you don't. It doesn't stomp almost, And that was the sound. But but you know, there's also the part of me that's saying, okay, boots, they're heavy hunting boots. You know, either are teenagers up here schooling around or you know, whatever it was. I was trying to find that logical this is what it is, definitive in my brain, you know, eliminating other possibilities. So I was, excuse me, really just thinking that it was a human being. But yeah, it just but it got quiet after that. I went in the cabin, you know, fix myself some lunch, and at some point I had kind of fallen aslape. I was, you know, to sit in my chair. And it wasn't long after that it was just like I heard of boom. I'm really really loud boom. That startled me awake, and I it was disranted enough. I didn't know. I mean, obviously I didn't know what it was. I knew it wasn't a gunshot, and then

14:52 I thought, well, you know, maybe it was like the little A sevens were flying they were selfridge or not selfridge, but what's in an airport basis and not Scota, which is about twenty miles away. And a lot of times you guys will fly down along they saw the river and they'll get low and they'll go really fast and you'll get a boom, even though they're not like a it's not a real supersonic plane, but you get that boom when they go through there. So that's kind of what I was thinking it was. But it was just all these different strange things, all of a sudden happening. I was, you know, now, I was just not really comfortable with what was going on. And so anyway, it was I'm just trying to like, okay, calling yourself. I wasn't even it was.

15:50 I wasn't scared. I was irritated. I was angry because it just felt like people were messing up my weeks. I decided to unuse the restroom. And we had a uh an outhouse off the back of the cabin, and that's you know, if you had to do sit down business, that's where you went. We had a chemical toilet inside. That's really where the women went when they came up on the weekends because you had to clean it yourself. So I go outside and I'm just one more time. You know, it was that feeling was there, but so I ought to do my business and I just just hear that oop again. And now I'm like, all right, now, this is just this is going beyond anything that is in my experience. I'm just I'm done. I'm done, you know, but I'm I'm still getting angry, you know, I'm getting angry and my patience has gone. And I just went back inside, you know, and I was sitting at a small kitchen table when I made some coffee and you know, then I just trying to run through what is going on, and it don't I don't have any kind of context, any clue. Any I

17:21 was getting rattled by this time, and I don't know. I'm I don't know, Jeremy. I am sorry. I'm just not doing real good at this because there's a lot of them. You're doing them back right now, Sean, Um, what time of day would you say that was where you went out to the house got rattled. It was about three, It was a it was about three o'clock and you know, between three and three fifteen. Because the where we were, the clear around the houses you know, about a half acre was cleared, but it was kind of patchy. So when when that November sun is just about hit at the top of the trees, it's right about three o'clock on its way down, because by four o'clock it would be kind of that grayish dust. And then by five o'clock done, you're dark because the sun flowed the trees and you're all in shadow.

18:26 You might looking straight up, you'd still have you'd still have more a little bit more light that you could see like straight above you, but as far as eliminating the area, by five o'clock you're done. It's And it's one of those places where other dan artificial light around cabins or a flashlight, there is no there's no street lights, there's no um so it's dark. And unless you've experienced it, especially in those November days where you know intends to be more overcast in northern Michigan, you can't see your hand in pretty your face, that's how dark it is. It's that that deep, deep, almost cave like dark. When you've heard when you heard the oath sounds, can you describe a little bit how loud that sound felt to you when you heard it. I almost felt the vibration in my chest, you know, like there was an actual sound hitting a wall like a Have you ever been in a very tight quarters, so like a very small hallway or a basement and been close to a wall and you've spoken loudly and you feel that sound

19:59 come back at you. Sure, And actually yeah, it felt like that, except it was a very open area and it felt almost like the sound when it hit me was saying open handed, uh hand, just pushing really lightly on my chest, but it was very um. It was quick, but it was spread out, so it was like a big wave but like just someone were to give you like an open handed push on your chest, and that's what it That's what it felt like. You know, there was there was a distinct wave to it. Um And see how that agitating?

20:45 For sure? Well, yeah, but it was. But it was one of those things where I've had experience was before in my life, not in the woods anything outdoor related, but in professional context um where you're kind of hypersensitive and HyperWare of everything that's going out around you because you're in fight or flight. You're in um what would what would turn out to be either a dangerous situation with a predatory human, or you're clearing of building. You know, you're just so focused on what is going on. And that's how I was sensing that almost that that sound. So it was outside of excuse me, outside of what I would consider to be an experience for there. But I've experienced similar feelings other places, sure, you know, because I mean because if the Cabina was always totally relaxed, you know, just it was that one place where I could always go and decompress. I could get under to the lake and fish, um you know, take a walk in the woods, go after squirrel, whatever I wanted to do. And I never

22:18 ever felt like I needed to be vigilant for um, you know, two legged predators or there was anything that I wouldn't be able to handle with you know, allowed get out of here, you know, or you know, throwing a rocket something. You know. It was just it was it was a really peaceful place. That makes sense now why you would be agitated then as it was encroaching on. Yeah, it was messing with your perfect place, your happy place, you know fill in the blank, and uh maybe yeah something else well, you know, and like I said, you know, I worked for a city department in Arizona, and you know, so we had good vacation time. I had three weeks every year, uh you know, after five years, because it works so much overtime. We would get vacation time based on how many hours we you know, how much we've worked. And you know, back in those days, I didn't make a lot of money. I made a decent living for the area, but I worked a lot overtime because you know, I had just bought my own I bought a condo, you know, so I my own home, and I didn't want to be in a lot of debts. So I worked a lot of overtime. And so that three weeks was my okay. Driving to Michigan,

23:48 you know, I'm going to see my my maternal grandparents. You know, my Dad's going to be up. I mean, my uncle Nick will be up, you know, be kind of them decompressed from everything time. But I liked that week by myself where I didn't have to talk to anybody if I didn't choose to, you know, unless I drove into town, which I rarely did, I didn't have to. You know, occasionally you might run into someone that was, you know, coming up to hunt. But that was that was pretty rare. So um yeah, but yeah it did. It ruined my It ruined my vacation, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, you know, like you said, that's why that is wild.

24:32 Yeah. Okay, so it's around three three, three thirty in the afternoon, you're headed back. Yeah, definitely in the three o'clock hour. Yeah, yeah, I went back. You know, I went back into the gabin um, you know, as I remember, you know, I started some dinner. You know, I was just but still at the same time, while I'm trying to make dinner, I'm like almost grumbling and cussing to myself. You know they those internal conversations where you know someone's a mess and you know, derber derbor dirt, you know that, uh, like you'll send me Sam cussing under your breath. You know. It just it was irritaneically, you know what I mean. I don't know any other way to describe it. It was just that. Uh. It's like when your kids are running wild and you but they're not doing anything wrong, and you want to custom out, but you don't because you're a good dad. But you go out in the garage and you cust to yourself you know, that's what it felt like. So any you know, anyway, he went back back in the cabin um started doing some dinner. I had to go back outside, and it was you know, I had to do some stand up business.

25:52 You know, you go to the outhouse, you got to do a douche. You don't if you got to, you know. So I go back outside and about halfway between the but I don't know, forty to fifty between the back porch and the outhouse which faces out under the swampy area that let's not really swamp. It's it's wet all the time. Um, you know, we really have swamps in Michigan, but it's a big wet liked them behind the summer, low in the and the falling in the winter. But you just don't go back there, you know, unless you want your boots getting sucked off your feet without really black silty mud. But anyway, I going out and from around the unexposed side of the outhouse and a tree it's stepped out, and I don't know why it stepped out. I don't know why I chose to come out and look at But now I'm looking at at it like white at you know, when I'm sixty four. This thing had to be I had to have a foot on me, maybe a little bit more um, you know. And I think my best estimation I wanted to look at the tree that it was near, you know. It was

27:22 had to be eight V and I was ten yards away from it, you know, Max, I was about thirty feet and I even now, you know, it's going back into that moment. I've been looking at this thing, and I was like, I'm tongue tied now just talking about it. And and it did, you know, and it did it again, and it just just and this time, this time I felt that almost just go through me. You know, that oomp was so powerful. It just like a wave that just went right through my body. And and all I'm thinking it was just, oh my god, you know, what am I gonna do? You know? But then I didn't do anything. I just stood there and I'm like, Okay, don't don't run, you know, And I think, honestly, that's really what I wanted to do. I was just like, all right, I'm gonna run now. You know that you know that calm voice you get in your head where it has that totally stupid, really fast conversation with yourself, and I'm like, I'm gonna run down.

28:49 No, that's not gonna work, because I can reach out and grab me and it's gonna you know. It was just like I felt like a proto moment with myself. So I just looked at it and then I looked and it's looking back at me. And now you know, there were no whites to its eyes. You know. That was the really weird thing. And it's it's just it. You know, Conicle had no neck. Looked like if Arnold Schwarzenegger had a bigger brother who put on another one hundred pounds. You know, it was just it was massive, the massive this creature I could barely describe. And those the long arms, that the legs were like tree stumps. Um. You know that the hair on it was even in even like that that fading light, like almost the tips of it were glistening um now like sparkly, you know, like you hear people talking about, but just like a very natural hair sheen that you would see on like a new uh like new growth um coat on your horses, you know, just before the fall. Um like very well groomed and very well kimpt, like it worked to keep itself clean. I guess I don't know if that

30:21 that's just that seemed that that impression that I got in the moment, but it was. It was huge of it. But the face was very humid, um. You know, the cheekbones were very pronounced. Um. You know, it had a flatter nose, you know, so it was wider, not really you know, uh, not really pronounced um, you know, coming out from the face, heavy brows, and that the eyes were just really deeply in set. Yeah, it was just the length that I was able to look at it that that impression was there was something there, you know, looking into those eyes, there was there was something there rather than a blank dumb animal. There was an intelligence there, you know.

31:21 And I'm not saying, you know it was a human intelligence, um, but definitely you know, this this creature had an awareness of itself and what was going on around it, um, you know. And then but I remember it was really weird because before I went, it's almost like it lifted its head just a little bit and it sniffed the air. Really, you know, it's these little details. It was like, you know. But then then oh, so you know, I don't know, I don't know. And then it moved a little bit, almost imperceptibly, and I put my hand on my pistol, and when I did that, and then it just made this like it sound like that started with an M and like two pursed lips, but it was really that hit me like a wave, and it seemed like they got taller in the moment. And I know that that's dumb. Is this? You know, it sounds dumb that it seems like it got taller. But then I think that maybe, you know, because then it tensed up, so it stood a little bit more erect. And all I could think was, oh shit, I'm gonna have to shoot this thing and empty my gun into it, you know, or it's gonna rip me apart. But then it looked up. It just it looked up to it's right. But when it did, it kind of swung its whole body

32:54 and it like lifted its head a little bit, I don't know, trying to get that job owned to clear those big shoulders, because like I said, you didn't have a net and it's but then it looked and then it just ran, you know, and you know, just you know, trees, not big trees, but like saplings cracked as it went, like it was making a new trail. And even though I couldn't see that after it got in, you know, like when then say a second half into the tree line, you know, I couldn't see it, but I can still see where it was going based on the tree shaking and you know, so larger things that were visible, and you know, it was just I was just amazed at that point, you know that, and scared. And I made it be lined back to the gabin, you know, and I made sure that you know, the shot guns off the wall, unloaded my rifle.

33:55 I mean, it was just almost like you know, I was tend to, you know, fortify myself, and it was and I just I don't know, it was it was just insanity a moment, you know, the mad minute, you know, because we would call it so but I I don't know, you know, admitting to the you know, the fear that you know, you I don't know it's it's but that was my you know, that was my sighting. That's I can I you know, I didn't see it again. Now I just hearing the story, I can tell, yeah, I mean the story has affected me. That's intense. Man, like, I have some questions for you Sean about that. If that's okay, um, when absolutely go ahead. So you saw it makes the oof sound. Could you tell if it was making it with its mouth?

35:22 Well, yeah, I mean because the the cheeks, you know, the flushy part of the cheeks, out of the cheek bones, you know, they puffed up, they rounded out almost like you were like, you know, whistle, you know that we see that they're filling over there. And then when I mean it made the sound that that you know, I see the lip going to the teeth, you know, like it was you know, it was articulating. You know, Um, I know there's some a little bit silly, but it almost had a cartoonish element to it. M Um, you know you know what the way that h or we're exaggerated things they do in cartoons, you know, to make it look. Yeah, that's that was how it felt. So yeah, that was and and and I know the one I mean the sound it definitely pursed its lips and put its lips tightly together. So what I mean that was my conversation with big Foot. Yeah, that was that was your back and forth with big Foot for sure. That would last year for the rest of your life. Yeah, it was, it was. It was. It was different shades of

36:58 like a reddish brown, okay, and there was some black. It was. It wasn't not like it was camouflage, but just the way that the the color was hitting it, you know it it um we In the light it was much more red brown where the light was hitting it, but where it was darkened in shadow, like the one quarter of it, it was almost black. So I don't know, it was like bub have you ever seen a black bear in the in the woods? And then did their natural more natural? Um, you know, if they're not like being careful in the zoo, how their hair just kind of absorbed a lot of light.

37:50 That was That was the impression that I got. But there was a definite, a definite reddish brown hue to it in the lighted areas, so you know, it's definitely you know, partially photoreactive gig and not um you know. And I don't know, I think that um And I'm trying to remember, you know, an anthropology class that I took thirty years ago. UM more of a hollow hollow hair tends to do that that doesn't have the U I guess you didn't remember what you know that that some animal here that's hollow for insulation can do that. Yeah. So did you see any tracks around the cabin at all? I saw like pressure impressions. Okay, but you don't have to november all the true all the leaves have fallen off in deciduous trees. Yea, so it's really there's a lot of uh leave cover like pretty thick. Um. So, No, I didn't see any any tracks.

39:07 I you know, there were impressions, but those were the you know, anything could have made those, you know. Yeah, so I there was nothing that I would say that's a track. I would say might be, but you know, with maybe a ten percent being sure, i'd be looking back when the contacts I could say, yeah, it probably walked. This is probably where I walk. Yeah, but I you know, there was nothing in it that I could say, oh, look that's a that's a big foot track. Um. So did you did you stand at the night in that cabin or did you leave pretty quick after? Oh? No, I said, okay, no, I said, it was really funny.

39:52 It's because you know, looking back, it was like, um, I made sure the guy were close to hand, and where I where I slept in. The cabin was in one of the corners. I had a bed there that I had ever since I was a kid, because it was right near a little tall window. And you gotta imagine the cabin was built out of logs back in late forties, so you know, my dad and my uncle had used you know, just about every um you know, uh re covered and surplus window they could find, so nothing really matched. So there was this a little big window and that's where my bed was. So I used to like to open the window, even it was just a crack when the weather was cold, just because I like to smell and I like to hear the woods and and things like that. But I wouldn't slee I did sleep there that night. Yeah, I slept on one of the couches.

40:58 It was against one of the more solids that was by the big fireplace because it's a really big stone fireplace in there, and it was like, nothing's going to stop it from coming in, but at least this way, if it decides to come in, I'm going to you know, I'll have time to you know, see it and point a gun at it before it eats me, you know. Or it was that that ridiculousness, you know, like, you know, trying to me my tactical situation better, realizing that if they really wanted to appease at me, there probably wasn't a lot I could do, no, not at all. So yeah, you know, you know, maybe if I got to the shot good quick enough, maybe you know, there were a lot of ifs. You know, I've been you know, I had been in two critical incidents as a police officer.

41:51 I do that I could it would handle myself. But at the same time, that's against other human beings. This was it might be related to us, but it was a hell of a lot bigger than anyone I ever arrested on the street. Wow. So I was just like, well, shit, I'm gonna do what I can do, and I'm gonna just trying to put it out of my mind. I'm gonna read, put a movie in the VCR, you know whatever. And so that was the that was when feeling at the time. But I went back inside and I just decided that, you know, if I had to go to the bathroom again, I was using inside absolutely. You know. That was the rest of that night. Did you hear anything out of the ordinary, any like weird knocks or owls or vocalizations or anything weird like that. No, No, because everything that I did hear, I was convinced was big foot. Yeah.

43:00 The rest of the nighty, which it was, you know, I always slept in the corner of you. It was like twenty four by twenty four on the interior dimensions of the cabinet. It was like one big room with rooms that had been added on later. But I always slept in this corner because there was a like a super single bed and it was right by the window. And I used to and I didn't care what time it was. I like to have the window cracked a little bit and you know, be able to listen and smell, and it was just that was my bed, and I didn't that night. There was no way I slept over by one of the big solid walls that the big fireplace was kind of formed a corner, and there was no way I was going to be near the window.

43:52 And that was where I kind of forded up. I had, you know, I had the shotgun on the table, my rifle and my pistol, you know, probably my knife. I mean, it was just it was just that weird that weird moment of I'm not making rationally irrational decisions. Um, it's like, yes, you know, have the shot gunloaded with slugs. You know, yes, have my rifle close by. You know. I was caught from crying out loud. I always had my pistol. But it was just one of those things where you know, I you know, even though the cabin was solidly built, I knew that if it wanted in, it was going to get in, absolutely, but I didn't. But I didn't feel that. You know, I didn't feel any malevolence. I didn't feel any anything predatory. But there was a lot of like post critical incident over awareness, you know, a lot of things. And it was, um, you know, my decision wall. You know, I'm not going to let it get me. But even though I didn't feel like it was wanting to get me, it was just that human you know, I'm gonna do what I have to do to make anyway. Um. You know, the rest of the night was really uneventful. I mean it was it

45:23 was normal you know, sounds, but you know, of course to my mind, everything was bigfoot. You know, mon cheering outside was bigfoot. You know, the trash pandas you know, trying to get into the garbage. You know, they were big foot, you know, even though I had heard the raccoons, you know, so you hear the raccoons, they're bigfoot, you know that It was that that that feeling, you know, going on through the night, um and and you know, and I fell asleep at some point, I probably earlier than I thought, just because adrenaline dump. It just drained me. And you know, I woke up the next morning, I made coffee. I was much more pensive. As I was moving around, I'm like, okay, looking here, looking there, you know, opening the back door, you know, not getting into the fatal funnel, checking my you know, checking my egress. It was almost like I was coming out of a out of a building, an attactical situation, just because I wanted to see before. But everything felt okay, yeah, you know. I just when I stepped out into the light, I'm like, okay, everything feels okay. It felt more normal than it had, but I still felt well, I knew now at this point he was out there, but it wasn't almost that that relief knowing okay, I know

46:57 what it is. It hasn't hurt me, you know, and I'm assuming they've been there, you know, heck of a lot longer than we've been going there, you know, having probably yeah, well yeah, exactly. It's you know, because you know, and end up in that area. You know, there's still you know, there's a lot of agriculture out there, a lot of corn fields, a lot of uh, you know, dairy, a lot of you know, there's big farms and everything you know in that county. You know, plus a lot of you know, fish opportunities, and you know there's beaver up there, and there's the deer. So there's you know, a pretty wide diet. So I'm you know, they live where the food is. You know, I can that's where the food is. But it just felt like, okay, it's not it doesn't want to hurt me. I don't want to hurt it. You know, we're just gonna live and let live. So but anyway, you know, the old man shows up, Grampus shows up, and you know, we had that conversation and it's all I said. It was, I know, you know, I told him what happened is that I know, you know, wow, yeah, oh man. And he never would say anything also about ever talked about all. Wow, so he had stuff happening he wouldn't talk about it. That's amazing. Yeah, oh man, what what an encounter. That's that's amazing. Thank you for Sharon, Sean. I mean,

48:30 have you gone to that place since then? No, it burned down not too long after that. There was a there was a big fire up there. Yeah. Yeah. And then you know, and they sold the property, and you know, it was just you know, they were going to kind of go to different different places and you know, had different ways of hunting in mind now after that and different friends. So um, but yeah, that's that's it. That's credible, Sean. I'm privileged to have you share that on the podcast. Thank you so much. Now you're welcome. I feel like I was scupped all over myself, you know, doing it. But yeah, yeah, um, let me know when it Let me know when it comes out so I can hear how bad I sounded.

49:22 Noah, it sounded great. I will definitely let you know that. Sean. Thanks so much for hanging out tonight, and I will I will be in touch for when it releases and all that. Thank you. An. Become a supporting member of the big Foot Society podcast by going to www dot Patreon dot com forward slash the big Foot Society and receive extra episodes and early ad free episodes as well. If you've got a personal bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast, please head on over to www dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot com. There you'll find the share your Bigfoot Encounter form a little lower on the page, and please take a minute to share as many details as you can. Please state if the encounter is anonymous or what name you would like associated with the encounter, and as always, thanks for listening.