Police Officer's Terrifying Sasquatch Standoff

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I'm gonna have to shoot the thing
and empty my gun into it, you

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know, or it's going to rip
me apart. Welcome to the Big Fist

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Society podcast. In this episode,
we talked to Sean Ritz, hired police

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officer who added a stunning sasquatch encounter
in northern Michigan that he won't soon forget,

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and I'm sure you won't either.
What happened to Sean when he came

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face to face with the sasquatch and
what steps did he have to take to

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get out of their live find out
this and more on this week's episode of

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Big Fast Society. All Right,
I've got Sean with us tonight. He'd

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us have a encounter to share.
How are you doing tonight, Sean,

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I'm doing very well. How are
you doing tonight? Oh, I'm doing

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great. We are just hanging out
in Iowa out here, gearing up for

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maybe some snow tomorrow. But it's
always a great night when I'm able to

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talk to someone about what they have
experienced to help listeners figure out what they've

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experienced too. But Sean, go
right ahead and let's let's start chatting.

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So fill me in what we've got, what we had happened to you here,

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well November it well, it was
on the thirteenth in nineteen eighty three.

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We were what turned out to be
the last trip to the hunting gabin

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that my dad, my uncle Mick
Bilt after World War Two in Glenney,

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Michigan. I'd gotten up about a
week early. I had planned on doing

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some fishing and some bow hunting before
rifles see, and it started. So

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I was up by myself, and
you know, and usually the first guy

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there gets to you know, cut
the wood and do things like that.

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And it was really was nothing unusual, you know, going on. And

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I had come up from Arizona.
I was born and raised here, while

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my mom's family was from Michigan,
and you know, so we had a

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lot of connections back there. And
that was just a scenario where my my

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dad kind of fell in love with
two um But anyway, so I had

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been up doing the chores and you
know, like and it was just things

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started feeling a little strange. It
wasn't it wasn't like I could really put

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my finger on anything, but you
know, and I'd been a police officer

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by this time for nearly five years, so I had a what I would

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consider to be kind of a heightened
um sense of awareness when things were watching

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me or things were things were strange
and it just felt off. Um,

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so I you know, I don't
know. But otherwise it was normal,

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if that makes any sense. When
you said it felt off that, I

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find that really interesting. Do you
did it? Can you describe, like

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what what fell off about the situation? It felt like I was being watched.

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Um, not not in a predatory
way. Um. I'm a real

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big believer in pheromones um and chemical
reactions because you know, I haven't been

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a police officer. I've been around
pre predat tory and feral humans, you

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know, for about five years,
and that was pretty well convinced by that

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time. And the consensus was when
they're giving off pheromones, you know,

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our body's hardware to pick that up
from years and years of survival and uh,

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you know the prehistorical you know,
instinctive things like that you don't see.

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You developed that sense and everybody has
it. It just felt like there

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was something around that was watching me. It felt like the hairs in the

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back of my neck would stand up
every once in a while if I was

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facing away from the tree, line, and I it's a really coniferous forested

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area up there's a lot of time, very very thick, so you can't

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really see into the tree line much
more than a few feet um. But

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I didn't see any movement, didn't
hear any movement, But I felt like

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I was being watched, if that
makes any sense at all. It's just,

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uh, it was a feeling that
I had. It wasn't I know,

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some people talk about what do they
call it, mind speak, you

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know, things like that, where
they're being communicated with. It was none

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of that. It was purely biological. So I don't know if that helps,

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but it's the best way that I
could describe it. As I had

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to go to court. That was
That's what I would say. You know,

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it was just a gut feeling.
There were no smells, you know,

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I remember, there was nothing smelled
odd, you know, very piny

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um, very um, you know. And it was November, so you

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know, there's a lot of leaf
cover on the ground, and you know,

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so the leaves were damp, they
were wet, you'll see that smell.

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It just it smelled normal, you
know. There was nothing um that

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I could put my finger on that
any sense that we're out of out of

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whack, how far away, how
far in the woods? Is this location

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just for people that might not be
able or that might not be familiar with

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the town that you had mentioned.
Oh, okay, it's it's about it's

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the crow Flies about becausteen miles outside
of the town itself, but off the

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main road. It's about four and
a half miles um and it's all too

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tract old fire lane and like residentially
cleared roadway. So you're you're you're responsible

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to keep your own roadways open to
the your your properties down there, and

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they're all we're back to then.
I don't know how many would be there

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now, but back then maybe between
the road and where we the main road

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where we were, or a hat
or other cabins, So it was really

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remote and we only had about a
half acre cleared where the trees had been

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cut down, so very very thick. And that's that's about where we were.

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I can already tell that what you
whatever you experienced, affected you in

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a way that has not affected everyone
that I've talked to you so far.

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You definitely it's this is going to
be a very interesting story for sure.

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Well, I mean it doesn't feel
like like a lot of people try to

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attach what you know, pts to
it and things of that nature. It

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wasn't that it was weren't it.
Looking back, it's kind of a sense

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of wonderment, you know it was. It's like, oh, now I

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can look back thirty years later ago. That's really cool. Um, Because

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I've always been not necessarily interested in
quote unquote big Foot or the you know,

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that whole thing. It's like,
yeah, I saw it on in

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search of when I was a kid, okay, um, but it was

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never really much more than a passing
interest. Um. But so when I

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saw it, it was like,
wow, you know, they were they

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were right, these things were real. So but but I mean it's opened

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up. It's it's opened my mind
to possibilities that I didn't think we're there

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before, you know. And I
tend to be an open minded skeptic.

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Um. I want to be able
to see it, touch it, feel

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it. As far as evidence goes, Um, I don't take anyone's word

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for anything unless there's corroborating evidence to
support it. So um, that was

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like the corroborative evidence that I needed
once or once I had seen it.

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But anyway, um. So,
yeah, it was about three days and

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you know, things were things were
just being um, I just felt like

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I'd been watched. Um even but
as I said before, you know,

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no sounds, no smells, there
was nothing that wasn't in place. You

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know, everything just seemed normal other
than that. But you know, so

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i'dn't anyway. I'd been cutting wood
and doing all the chores, and you

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know, we had a shooting range
at the cabin, and you know,

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so I wanted to make sure that
my rifle was zeroed in, and I

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wanted to make sure that my pistal
was zeroed into the AMMO that I brought

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because I was actually gonna hunt with
my pistol. And so I said at

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the target, and I started to
shoot, and I don't know, I

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probably fired five rounds out of my
rifle and you know, verified that it

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was zero Dan. I think I
fired, you know, if I remember

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correct, I fired like one magazine
out of my pistol. It was a

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block twenty ten millimeter, and you
know it was it was I think,

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these stupid little details they keep coming
back, but it was. You know,

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I had an inch high, which
you know would have been perfect because

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a long shot up there because the
woods are so dense, maybe twenty five

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yards um. I think the longest
shot I ever made on a deer was

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probably closer to thirty And you know
that was hunting there since fourteen years old.

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But what stands out is when I
got done, I heard, because

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I was packing up, I heard
like an It was a drawn out,

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breathy move, like it started off
like it was coming out of someone's stomach,

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the sound, and it had a
really distinct F sound at the end,

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and you know, I just I
that just kind of stopped me dead

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in my tracks. You know.
I had to look around and I you

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know, and I couldn't see anything. And it was weird because I thought,

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you know, wow, it's a
bear, you know, and we

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had bear up there, but you
know, I've only ever seen one.

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I'd seen tracks, I had seen
scat, but I hadn't really seen the

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bear. So it was the first
thing that come. Then I get to

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think of, you know, like, there's nothing out here or that makes

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a sound with an F sound at
the end. You know, it's a

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sibilant sound. You need you know, you need you know, humanoid lips

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to be able to make that sound. But anyway, you know, I

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put that out. I'm like,
okay, you finish, finish what I'm

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doing. It cleaned up, and
then I was about halfway back to the

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cabin. I mean it was only
a fourty or fifty feet that surrounded it

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and came from another side of me. Then I heard it again, you

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know, like and now I figured
somebody was messing with me. You know,

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I went and you know, my
my investigated brain turned on. I'm

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like, all right, now there's
somebody's got to be out there. So

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I yelled, and you know,
I don't want to you know, the

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profanity that they yelled, but you
know, I told them, right they're

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going to show themselves or you know, things were things, We're gonna get

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ugly. And nothing did. And
I moved a little bit more, and

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then I started hearing like really distinct
heavy footballs, and they were going away

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from me and definitely by people.
You know, you know, clod of

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head animals tend to be much more
even when they're moving through heavy brush.

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You might hear the brush, but
you don't really hear the footballs because they're

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you know, more of a gentle
footed animal. I mean, even my

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horse, you know, when my
horses are walking there, you know,

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you can hear the crops, but
you don't. It doesn't stomp almost,

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And that was the sound. But
but you know, there's also the part

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of me that's saying, okay,
boots, they're heavy hunting boots. You

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know, either are teenagers up here
schooling around or you know, whatever it

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was. I was trying to find
that logical this is what it is,

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definitive in my brain, you know, eliminating other possibilities. So I was,

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excuse me, really just thinking that
it was a human being. But

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yeah, it just but it got
quiet after that. I went in the

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cabin, you know, fix myself
some lunch, and at some point I

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had kind of fallen aslape. I
was, you know, to sit in

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my chair. And it wasn't long
after that it was just like I heard

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of boom. I'm really really loud
boom. That startled me awake, and

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I it was disranted enough. I
didn't know. I mean, obviously I

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didn't know what it was. I
knew it wasn't a gunshot, and then

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I thought, well, you know, maybe it was like the little A

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sevens were flying they were selfridge or
not selfridge, but what's in an airport

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basis and not Scota, which is
about twenty miles away. And a lot

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of times you guys will fly down
along they saw the river and they'll get

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low and they'll go really fast and
you'll get a boom, even though they're

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not like a it's not a real
supersonic plane, but you get that boom

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when they go through there. So
that's kind of what I was thinking it

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was. But it was just all
these different strange things, all of a

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sudden happening. I was, you
know, now, I was just not

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really comfortable with what was going on. And so anyway, it was I'm

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just trying to like, okay,
calling yourself. I wasn't even it was.

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I wasn't scared. I was irritated. I was angry because it just

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felt like people were messing up my
weeks. I decided to unuse the restroom.

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And we had a uh an outhouse
off the back of the cabin,

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and that's you know, if you
had to do sit down business, that's

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where you went. We had a
chemical toilet inside. That's really where the

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women went when they came up on
the weekends because you had to clean it

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yourself. So I go outside and
I'm just one more time. You know,

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it was that feeling was there,
but so I ought to do my

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business and I just just hear that
oop again. And now I'm like,

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all right, now, this is
just this is going beyond anything that is

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in my experience. I'm just I'm
done. I'm done, you know,

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but I'm I'm still getting angry,
you know, I'm getting angry and my

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patience has gone. And I just
went back inside, you know, and

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I was sitting at a small kitchen
table when I made some coffee and you

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know, then I just trying to
run through what is going on, and

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it don't I don't have any kind
of context, any clue. Any I

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was getting rattled by this time,
and I don't know. I'm I don't

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know, Jeremy. I am sorry. I'm just not doing real good at

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this because there's a lot of them. You're doing them back right now,

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Sean, Um, what time of
day would you say that was where you

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went out to the house got rattled. It was about three, It was

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a it was about three o'clock and
you know, between three and three fifteen.

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Because the where we were, the
clear around the houses you know,

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about a half acre was cleared,
but it was kind of patchy. So

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when when that November sun is just
about hit at the top of the trees,

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it's right about three o'clock on its
way down, because by four o'clock

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it would be kind of that grayish
dust. And then by five o'clock done,

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you're dark because the sun flowed the
trees and you're all in shadow.

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You might looking straight up, you'd
still have you'd still have more a little

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bit more light that you could see
like straight above you, but as far

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as eliminating the area, by five
o'clock you're done. It's And it's one

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of those places where other dan artificial
light around cabins or a flashlight, there

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is no there's no street lights,
there's no um so it's dark. And

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unless you've experienced it, especially in
those November days where you know intends to

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be more overcast in northern Michigan,
you can't see your hand in pretty your

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face, that's how dark it is. It's that that deep, deep,

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almost cave like dark. When you've
heard when you heard the oath sounds,

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can you describe a little bit how
loud that sound felt to you when you

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heard it. I almost felt the
vibration in my chest, you know,

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like there was an actual sound hitting
a wall like a Have you ever been

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in a very tight quarters, so
like a very small hallway or a basement

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and been close to a wall and
you've spoken loudly and you feel that sound

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come back at you. Sure,
And actually yeah, it felt like that,

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except it was a very open area
and it felt almost like the sound

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when it hit me was saying open
handed, uh hand, just pushing really

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lightly on my chest, but it
was very um. It was quick,

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but it was spread out, so
it was like a big wave but like

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just someone were to give you like
an open handed push on your chest,

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and that's what it That's what it
felt like. You know, there was

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there was a distinct wave to it. Um And see how that agitating?

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For sure? Well, yeah,
but it was. But it was one

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of those things where I've had experience
was before in my life, not in

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the woods anything outdoor related, but
in professional context um where you're kind of

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hypersensitive and HyperWare of everything that's going
out around you because you're in fight or

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flight. You're in um what would
what would turn out to be either a

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dangerous situation with a predatory human,
or you're clearing of building. You know,

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you're just so focused on what is
going on. And that's how I

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was sensing that almost that that sound. So it was outside of excuse me,

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outside of what I would consider to
be an experience for there. But

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I've experienced similar feelings other places,
sure, you know, because I mean

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because if the Cabina was always totally
relaxed, you know, just it was

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that one place where I could always
go and decompress. I could get under

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to the lake and fish, um
you know, take a walk in the

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woods, go after squirrel, whatever
I wanted to do. And I never

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ever felt like I needed to be
vigilant for um, you know, two

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legged predators or there was anything that
I wouldn't be able to handle with you

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know, allowed get out of here, you know, or you know,

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throwing a rocket something. You know. It was just it was it was

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a really peaceful place. That makes
sense now why you would be agitated then

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as it was encroaching on. Yeah, it was messing with your perfect place,

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your happy place, you know fill
in the blank, and uh maybe

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yeah something else well, you know, and like I said, you know,

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I worked for a city department in
Arizona, and you know, so

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we had good vacation time. I
had three weeks every year, uh you

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know, after five years, because
it works so much overtime. We would

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get vacation time based on how many
hours we you know, how much we've

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worked. And you know, back
in those days, I didn't make a

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lot of money. I made a
decent living for the area, but I

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worked a lot overtime because you know, I had just bought my own I

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bought a condo, you know,
so I my own home, and I

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didn't want to be in a lot
of debts. So I worked a lot

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of overtime. And so that three
weeks was my okay. Driving to Michigan,

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you know, I'm going to see
my my maternal grandparents. You know,

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my Dad's going to be up.
I mean, my uncle Nick will

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be up, you know, be
kind of them decompressed from everything time.

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But I liked that week by myself
where I didn't have to talk to anybody

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if I didn't choose to, you
know, unless I drove into town,

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which I rarely did, I didn't
have to. You know, occasionally you

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might run into someone that was,
you know, coming up to hunt.

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But that was that was pretty rare. So um yeah, but yeah it

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did. It ruined my It ruined
my vacation, I guess. Yeah.

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Yeah, you know, like you
said, that's why that is wild.

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Yeah. Okay, so it's around
three three, three thirty in the afternoon,

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you're headed back. Yeah, definitely
in the three o'clock hour. Yeah,

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yeah, I went back. You
know, I went back into the

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gabin um, you know, as
I remember, you know, I started

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some dinner. You know, I
was just but still at the same time,

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while I'm trying to make dinner,
I'm like almost grumbling and cussing to

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myself. You know they those internal
conversations where you know someone's a mess and

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you know, derber derbor dirt,
you know that, uh, like you'll

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send me Sam cussing under your breath. You know. It just it was

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irritaneically, you know what I mean. I don't know any other way to

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describe it. It was just that. Uh. It's like when your kids

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are running wild and you but they're
not doing anything wrong, and you want

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to custom out, but you don't
because you're a good dad. But you

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go out in the garage and you
cust to yourself you know, that's what

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it felt like. So any you
know, anyway, he went back back

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in the cabin um started doing some
dinner. I had to go back outside,

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and it was you know, I
had to do some stand up business.

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You know, you go to the
outhouse, you got to do a

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douche. You don't if you got
to, you know. So I go

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back outside and about halfway between the
but I don't know, forty to fifty

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between the back porch and the outhouse
which faces out under the swampy area that

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let's not really swamp. It's it's
wet all the time. Um, you

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know, we really have swamps in
Michigan, but it's a big wet liked

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them behind the summer, low in
the and the falling in the winter.

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But you just don't go back there, you know, unless you want your

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boots getting sucked off your feet without
really black silty mud. But anyway,

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I going out and from around the
unexposed side of the outhouse and a tree

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it's stepped out, and I don't
know why it stepped out. I don't

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know why I chose to come out
and look at But now I'm looking at

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at it like white at you know, when I'm sixty four. This thing

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had to be I had to have
a foot on me, maybe a little

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bit more um, you know.
And I think my best estimation I wanted

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to look at the tree that it
was near, you know. It was

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had to be eight V and I
was ten yards away from it, you

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know, Max, I was about
thirty feet and I even now, you

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know, it's going back into that
moment. I've been looking at this thing,

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and I was like, I'm tongue
tied now just talking about it.

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And and it did, you know, and it did it again, and

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it just just and this time,
this time I felt that almost just go

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through me. You know, that
oomp was so powerful. It just like

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a wave that just went right through
my body. And and all I'm thinking

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it was just, oh my god, you know, what am I gonna

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do? You know? But then
I didn't do anything. I just stood

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there and I'm like, Okay,
don't don't run, you know, And

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I think, honestly, that's really
what I wanted to do. I was

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just like, all right, I'm
gonna run now. You know that you

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know that calm voice you get in
your head where it has that totally stupid,

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really fast conversation with yourself, and
I'm like, I'm gonna run down.

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No, that's not gonna work,
because I can reach out and grab

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me and it's gonna you know.
It was just like I felt like a

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proto moment with myself. So I
just looked at it and then I looked

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and it's looking back at me.
And now you know, there were no

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whites to its eyes. You know. That was the really weird thing.

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And it's it's just it. You
know, Conicle had no neck. Looked

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like if Arnold Schwarzenegger had a bigger
brother who put on another one hundred pounds.

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You know, it was just it
was massive, the massive this creature

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I could barely describe. And those
the long arms, that the legs were

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like tree stumps. Um. You
know that the hair on it was even

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in even like that that fading light, like almost the tips of it were

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glistening um now like sparkly, you
know, like you hear people talking about,

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but just like a very natural hair
sheen that you would see on like

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a new uh like new growth um
coat on your horses, you know,

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just before the fall. Um like
very well groomed and very well kimpt,

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like it worked to keep itself clean. I guess I don't know if that

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that's just that seemed that that impression
that I got in the moment, but

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it was. It was huge of
it. But the face was very humid,

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um. You know, the cheekbones
were very pronounced. Um. You

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know, it had a flatter nose, you know, so it was wider,

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not really you know, uh,
not really pronounced um, you know,

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coming out from the face, heavy
brows, and that the eyes were

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just really deeply in set. Yeah, it was just the length that I

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was able to look at it that
that impression was there was something there,

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you know, looking into those eyes, there was there was something there rather

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than a blank dumb animal. There
was an intelligence there, you know.

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And I'm not saying, you know
it was a human intelligence, um,

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but definitely you know, this this
creature had an awareness of itself and what

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was going on around it, um, you know. And then but I

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remember it was really weird because before
I went, it's almost like it lifted

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its head just a little bit and
it sniffed the air. Really, you

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know, it's these little details.
It was like, you know. But

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then then oh, so you know, I don't know, I don't know.

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And then it moved a little bit, almost imperceptibly, and I put

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my hand on my pistol, and
when I did that, and then it

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just made this like it sound like
that started with an M and like two

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pursed lips, but it was really
that hit me like a wave, and

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it seemed like they got taller in
the moment. And I know that that's

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dumb. Is this? You know, it sounds dumb that it seems like

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it got taller. But then I
think that maybe, you know, because

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then it tensed up, so it
stood a little bit more erect. And

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all I could think was, oh
shit, I'm gonna have to shoot this

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thing and empty my gun into it, you know, or it's gonna rip

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me apart. But then it looked
up. It just it looked up to

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it's right. But when it did, it kind of swung its whole body

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and it like lifted its head a
little bit, I don't know, trying

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to get that job owned to clear
those big shoulders, because like I said,

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you didn't have a net and it's
but then it looked and then it

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just ran, you know, and
you know, just you know, trees,

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not big trees, but like saplings
cracked as it went, like it

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was making a new trail. And
even though I couldn't see that after it

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got in, you know, like
when then say a second half into the

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tree line, you know, I
couldn't see it, but I can still

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see where it was going based on
the tree shaking and you know, so

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larger things that were visible, and
you know, it was just I was

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just amazed at that point, you
know that, and scared. And I

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made it be lined back to the
gabin, you know, and I made

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sure that you know, the shot
guns off the wall, unloaded my rifle.

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I mean, it was just almost
like you know, I was tend

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to, you know, fortify myself, and it was and I just I

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don't know, it was it was
just insanity a moment, you know,

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the mad minute, you know,
because we would call it so but I

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I don't know, you know,
admitting to the you know, the fear

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that you know, you I don't
know it's it's but that was my you

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know, that was my sighting.
That's I can I you know, I

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didn't see it again. Now I
just hearing the story, I can tell,

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yeah, I mean the story has
affected me. That's intense. Man,

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like, I have some questions for
you Sean about that. If that's

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okay, um, when absolutely go
ahead. So you saw it makes the

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oof sound. Could you tell if
it was making it with its mouth?

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Well, yeah, I mean because
the the cheeks, you know, the

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flushy part of the cheeks, out
of the cheek bones, you know,

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they puffed up, they rounded out
almost like you were like, you know,

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whistle, you know that we see
that they're filling over there. And

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then when I mean it made the
sound that that you know, I see

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the lip going to the teeth,
you know, like it was you know,

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it was articulating. You know,
Um, I know there's some a

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little bit silly, but it almost
had a cartoonish element to it. M

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Um, you know you know what
the way that h or we're exaggerated things

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they do in cartoons, you know, to make it look. Yeah,

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that's that was how it felt.
So yeah, that was and and and

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I know the one I mean the
sound it definitely pursed its lips and put

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its lips tightly together. So what
I mean that was my conversation with big

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Foot. Yeah, that was that
was your back and forth with big Foot

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for sure. That would last year
for the rest of your life. Yeah,

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it was, it was. It
was. It was different shades of

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like a reddish brown, okay,
and there was some black. It was.

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It wasn't not like it was camouflage, but just the way that the

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the color was hitting it, you
know it it um we In the light

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it was much more red brown where
the light was hitting it, but where

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it was darkened in shadow, like
the one quarter of it, it was

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almost black. So I don't know, it was like bub have you ever

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seen a black bear in the in
the woods? And then did their natural

408
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:45.719
more natural? Um, you know, if they're not like being careful in

409
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:49.199
the zoo, how their hair just
kind of absorbed a lot of light.

410
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.639
That was That was the impression that
I got. But there was a definite,

411
00:37:54.679 --> 00:38:02.239
a definite reddish brown hue to it
in the lighted areas, so you

412
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:10.800
know, it's definitely you know,
partially photoreactive gig and not um you know.

413
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.480
And I don't know, I think
that um And I'm trying to remember,

414
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:22.360
you know, an anthropology class that
I took thirty years ago. UM

415
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:28.880
more of a hollow hollow hair tends
to do that that doesn't have the U

416
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.440
I guess you didn't remember what you
know that that some animal here that's hollow

417
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:40.400
for insulation can do that. Yeah. So did you see any tracks around

418
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:51.119
the cabin at all? I saw
like pressure impressions. Okay, but you

419
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.519
don't have to november all the true
all the leaves have fallen off in deciduous

420
00:38:54.559 --> 00:39:02.559
trees. Yea, so it's really
there's a lot of uh leave cover like

421
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:07.400
pretty thick. Um. So,
No, I didn't see any any tracks.

422
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.559
I you know, there were impressions, but those were the you know,

423
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.159
anything could have made those, you
know. Yeah, so I there

424
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.760
was nothing that I would say that's
a track. I would say might be,

425
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:25.880
but you know, with maybe a
ten percent being sure, i'd be

426
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.639
looking back when the contacts I could
say, yeah, it probably walked.

427
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.400
This is probably where I walk.
Yeah, but I you know, there

428
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.480
was nothing in it that I could
say, oh, look that's a that's

429
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:44.679
a big foot track. Um.
So did you did you stand at the

430
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:49.559
night in that cabin or did you
leave pretty quick after? Oh? No,

431
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.920
I said, okay, no,
I said, it was really funny.

432
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:55.920
It's because you know, looking back, it was like, um,

433
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:02.280
I made sure the guy were close
to hand, and where I where I

434
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:07.800
slept in. The cabin was in
one of the corners. I had a

435
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:10.039
bed there that I had ever since
I was a kid, because it was

436
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:16.199
right near a little tall window.
And you gotta imagine the cabin was built

437
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:22.119
out of logs back in late forties, so you know, my dad and

438
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:29.519
my uncle had used you know,
just about every um you know, uh

439
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:37.199
re covered and surplus window they could
find, so nothing really matched. So

440
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:42.920
there was this a little big window
and that's where my bed was. So

441
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.239
I used to like to open the
window, even it was just a crack

442
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.639
when the weather was cold, just
because I like to smell and I like

443
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:53.360
to hear the woods and and things
like that. But I wouldn't slee I

444
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:58.360
did sleep there that night. Yeah, I slept on one of the couches.

445
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:01.159
It was against one of the more
solids that was by the big fireplace

446
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:05.760
because it's a really big stone fireplace
in there, and it was like,

447
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.639
nothing's going to stop it from coming
in, but at least this way,

448
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:15.079
if it decides to come in,
I'm going to you know, I'll have

449
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.519
time to you know, see it
and point a gun at it before it

450
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.400
eats me, you know. Or
it was that that ridiculousness, you know,

451
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:30.960
like, you know, trying to
me my tactical situation better, realizing

452
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.519
that if they really wanted to appease
at me, there probably wasn't a lot

453
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.760
I could do, no, not
at all. So yeah, you know,

454
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:43.079
you know, maybe if I got
to the shot good quick enough,

455
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.039
maybe you know, there were a
lot of ifs. You know, I've

456
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:51.039
been you know, I had been
in two critical incidents as a police officer.

457
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:55.559
I do that I could it would
handle myself. But at the same

458
00:41:55.639 --> 00:42:01.599
time, that's against other human beings. This was it might be related to

459
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:07.320
us, but it was a hell
of a lot bigger than anyone I ever

460
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.000
arrested on the street. Wow.
So I was just like, well,

461
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:16.679
shit, I'm gonna do what I
can do, and I'm gonna just trying

462
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:20.559
to put it out of my mind. I'm gonna read, put a movie

463
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:29.960
in the VCR, you know whatever. And so that was the that was

464
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.679
when feeling at the time. But
I went back inside and I just decided

465
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.360
that, you know, if I
had to go to the bathroom again,

466
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:42.000
I was using inside absolutely. You
know. That was the rest of that

467
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:49.000
night. Did you hear anything out
of the ordinary, any like weird knocks

468
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:55.719
or owls or vocalizations or anything weird
like that. No, No, because

469
00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:00.320
everything that I did hear, I
was convinced was big foot. Yeah.

470
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.679
The rest of the nighty, which
it was, you know, I always

471
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.800
slept in the corner of you.
It was like twenty four by twenty four

472
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:10.960
on the interior dimensions of the cabinet. It was like one big room with

473
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.119
rooms that had been added on later. But I always slept in this corner

474
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:22.039
because there was a like a super
single bed and it was right by the

475
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:25.000
window. And I used to and
I didn't care what time it was.

476
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:28.679
I like to have the window cracked
a little bit and you know, be

477
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:32.840
able to listen and smell, and
it was just that was my bed,

478
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:40.239
and I didn't that night. There
was no way I slept over by one

479
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:46.360
of the big solid walls that the
big fireplace was kind of formed a corner,

480
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:51.920
and there was no way I was
going to be near the window.

481
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.719
And that was where I kind of
forded up. I had, you know,

482
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:59.960
I had the shotgun on the table, my rifle and my pistol,

483
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:04.760
you know, probably my knife.
I mean, it was just it was

484
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:12.920
just that weird that weird moment of
I'm not making rationally irrational decisions. Um,

485
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:16.719
it's like, yes, you know, have the shot gunloaded with slugs.

486
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:21.039
You know, yes, have my
rifle close by. You know.

487
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.199
I was caught from crying out loud. I always had my pistol. But

488
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:28.400
it was just one of those things
where you know, I you know,

489
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.519
even though the cabin was solidly built, I knew that if it wanted in,

490
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:37.519
it was going to get in,
absolutely, but I didn't. But

491
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.280
I didn't feel that. You know, I didn't feel any malevolence. I

492
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:52.480
didn't feel any anything predatory. But
there was a lot of like post critical

493
00:44:52.519 --> 00:45:00.639
incident over awareness, you know,
a lot of things. And it was,

494
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:04.320
um, you know, my decision
wall. You know, I'm not

495
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.000
going to let it get me.
But even though I didn't feel like it

496
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:15.440
was wanting to get me, it
was just that human you know, I'm

497
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:20.760
gonna do what I have to do
to make anyway. Um. You know,

498
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.760
the rest of the night was really
uneventful. I mean it was it

499
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:30.199
was normal you know, sounds,
but you know, of course to my

500
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:35.119
mind, everything was bigfoot. You
know, mon cheering outside was bigfoot.

501
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.039
You know, the trash pandas you
know, trying to get into the garbage.

502
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:42.239
You know, they were big foot, you know, even though I

503
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:45.199
had heard the raccoons, you know, so you hear the raccoons, they're

504
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:51.639
bigfoot, you know that It was
that that that feeling, you know,

505
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:55.320
going on through the night, um
and and you know, and I fell

506
00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:00.559
asleep at some point, I probably
earlier than I thought, just because adrenaline

507
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:05.320
dump. It just drained me.
And you know, I woke up the

508
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:09.880
next morning, I made coffee.
I was much more pensive. As I

509
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:13.559
was moving around, I'm like,
okay, looking here, looking there,

510
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:16.559
you know, opening the back door, you know, not getting into the

511
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:21.199
fatal funnel, checking my you know, checking my egress. It was almost

512
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:23.960
like I was coming out of a
out of a building, an attactical situation,

513
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:34.079
just because I wanted to see before. But everything felt okay, yeah,

514
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.920
you know. I just when I
stepped out into the light, I'm

515
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:44.599
like, okay, everything feels okay. It felt more normal than it had,

516
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:50.440
but I still felt well, I
knew now at this point he was

517
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:57.320
out there, but it wasn't almost
that that relief knowing okay, I know

518
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:04.599
what it is. It hasn't hurt
me, you know, and I'm assuming

519
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.559
they've been there, you know,
heck of a lot longer than we've been

520
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:12.400
going there, you know, having
probably yeah, well yeah, exactly.

521
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.639
It's you know, because you know, and end up in that area.

522
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.039
You know, there's still you know, there's a lot of agriculture out there,

523
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:21.400
a lot of corn fields, a
lot of uh, you know,

524
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.119
dairy, a lot of you know, there's big farms and everything you know

525
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:30.360
in that county. You know,
plus a lot of you know, fish

526
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.760
opportunities, and you know there's beaver
up there, and there's the deer.

527
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:37.519
So there's you know, a pretty
wide diet. So I'm you know,

528
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:42.400
they live where the food is.
You know, I can that's where the

529
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:46.360
food is. But it just felt
like, okay, it's not it doesn't

530
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:50.559
want to hurt me. I don't
want to hurt it. You know,

531
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.840
we're just gonna live and let live. So but anyway, you know,

532
00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:02.119
the old man shows up, Grampus
shows up, and you know, we

533
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:07.039
had that conversation and it's all I
said. It was, I know,

534
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.159
you know, I told him what
happened is that I know, you know,

535
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:14.480
wow, yeah, oh man.
And he never would say anything also

536
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:19.000
about ever talked about all. Wow, so he had stuff happening he wouldn't

537
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:25.280
talk about it. That's amazing.
Yeah, oh man, what what an

538
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:29.760
encounter. That's that's amazing. Thank
you for Sharon, Sean. I mean,

539
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:35.079
have you gone to that place since
then? No, it burned down

540
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:39.159
not too long after that. There
was a there was a big fire up

541
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:45.960
there. Yeah. Yeah. And
then you know, and they sold the

542
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.599
property, and you know, it
was just you know, they were going

543
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:52.360
to kind of go to different different
places and you know, had different ways

544
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:57.360
of hunting in mind now after that
and different friends. So um, but

545
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:02.360
yeah, that's that's it. That's
credible, Sean. I'm privileged to have

546
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:07.480
you share that on the podcast.
Thank you so much. Now you're welcome.

547
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:13.880
I feel like I was scupped all
over myself, you know, doing

548
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:19.559
it. But yeah, yeah,
um, let me know when it Let

549
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:21.639
me know when it comes out so
I can hear how bad I sounded.

550
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:28.320
Noah, it sounded great. I
will definitely let you know that. Sean.

551
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.719
Thanks so much for hanging out tonight, and I will I will be

552
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.599
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553
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556
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557
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558
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559
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560
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561
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