Sept. 19, 2025

Sasquatch Appeared 10 Feet Away—And Then Vanished! | Oregon

Sasquatch Appeared 10 Feet Away—And Then Vanished! | Oregon
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Season 1

What happens when a spiritually sensitive woman moves to Sweet Home, Oregon — and is immediately flooded with face-to-face sightings, glowing red eyes, and mysterious footprints? In this gripping and emotional episode, we sit down with Chelle Heaton, founder of the Sweet Home, Oregon Sasquatch Research Group, whose lifelong obsession with Bigfoot began with reoccurring childhood dreams and took a stunning turn in the forests of the Oregon Cascades. From ethereal face-to-face encounters to trails filled with 50+ massive prints, Chelle shares how these beings have revealed themselves to her — and even told her they've been protecting her since childhood. You’ll hear stories from Quartzville, Green Peter Reservoir, McKenzie Watershed, and the backroads of Sweet Home — including disappearing figures, energy malfunctions, and the moment she realized the Sasquatch from her dreams might be real. This one’s about connection, calling, and the thin veil between the seen and unseen.

Resources:

Sweet Home FB Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1769549100224800

Chelle on the Area 58 Museum Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQBTRY9xuMo


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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. We've

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got the privilege of talking to Shelley Heaton today. She

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is the founder of the Sweet Home, Oregon Sasquatch Research

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group on Facebook and also off of Facebook. I mean,

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you guys are out there doing some boots on the

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ground research as well, as we'll probably hear about in

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a bit. But welcome to the show. Shelley. How are

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you doing today?

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I'm doing great, Thank you so much. I'm so excited

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to talk to you today.

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Absolutely in myself as well. It feels like we were

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just all in Oakridge about two months ago, which is crazy.

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That. I know it feels like yesterday, but.

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It was really fun. You were one of the people

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that I was excited to meet in person or to

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talk a little bit there in person with. And it's

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such a fun festival. You know, if people can make

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it to the Sasquat Summer Fest in Oakridge, I would

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really really recommend that they check it out. And you'll

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hear about that as we get closer to it.

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But every year it gets better, it.

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Really does, you know, to talk about it for a

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little bit, man, there were people. I don't know if

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you notice this at your booth, but at my booth,

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I was talking to people all over the US that

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were at that festival. Yeah, it was crazy. I had

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people from Pennsylvania, down California, Canada, man all over and

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it is really starting to become a huge festival and

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I'm excited to Plans are already made to be there

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again next year, so that'd be the third year for me.

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So I'm excited. But you know, Shelley, I want to

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make sure that we have the time for you to

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share some interesting experiences you've been a part of out

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there in the Cascade region of Oregon. Would you consider

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sweet home to be in the foothills of the Cascades.

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We are directly in the foothills. As a matter of fact.

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Our motto is we are the gateway to the Cascades.

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So I love it.

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I love it. Oh yeah, I love it too. You.

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I'll tell you what. So before we get going, man,

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after the festival last year, I took one twenty six

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past Leeberg and Mackenzie Bridge and like over Sandy m

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Junction over to Sis and it was like, oh my goodness,

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what have I gotten myself into?

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It? Is it crazy? There? That's part of my area too,

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all the way. So I researched just north of me

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at Detroit Lakes and then I come down to the

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Sweet Home area all the way down to Mackenzie Watershed

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and then back up to Sisters like that whole area

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is my research area. So and it's great. I love it.

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Oh wow, I didn't know it was your research area.

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Went out that far. That was really good to know.

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But I'd say, you know, before we get too far

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into it, can you can you share a little bit

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about what got you into the whole Bigfoot subject to

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begin with?

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Yeah, I'd love too. So when I was five years

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old and it starts. I'll try to make it short.

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But when I was five years old, I saw Ufo

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with my aunt and I remember all I can really

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remember about that incident was that I saw something shiny

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and disshaped in the sky. It was hovering rollo over

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a cornfield across the street from my house, and I

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asked my aunt what is it and she said it's

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a ufo and I was like, oh cool. You know,

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so that year, and I remember what year it was,

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it was nineteen seventy eight. Because I don't know if

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you remember this, Jeremiah, I don't know how old you are.

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I don't want to aid you. But in nineteen seventy eight,

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we had a big snowstorm in the Midwest and there

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was like eight feet of snow. So I remember it

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being that year because of that snowstorm. And that same

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year I started having dreams about Bigfoot. And it was

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the same dream. It was a reoccurring dream, and it

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scared the heck out of me. I was petrified, and

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I had it very often. So I had that dream

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from the time I was fo until I was nineteen,

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and I finally I remember I woke up one morning

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when I was nineteen, and I was crying, and I

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was overwhelmed, and I was stressed out because the stream.

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I would start out in an old house, in an

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old Victorian house, and there was no electricity, and I

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remember like gas lamps and wooden furniture, and I'd look

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out the front window and there'd be a sasquatch, this

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huge hairy man just walking up on the porch and

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gently opening the screen door and walking in the living room,

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and it startled me, and I would turn around and

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I would run through the house out the back door.

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And so I'd run out the back door through like

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a maybe like a grass field or you know, wheat

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or something like that. And every time I would turn around,

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he'd be walking behind me. And I felt like he

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was chasing me at the time, probably because I was

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so young, but he really wasn't. He was just walking

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behind me, you know. So fast forward, I had that dream.

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My aunt took me to one of her psychic healers

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and we discussed it, and you know, she said this

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and that, and she said, well, you have to just

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confront him and tell him stop scaring me. So I did.

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I confronted him, and he got right down into my face,

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and I was face to face with him, and he

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had the most I don't want to say beautiful but

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not It wasn't a threatening face. It was just a

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very calm, kind of almost like a monkey face, you know.

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And he got right in my face and he said,

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please stop scaring me. You're terrorizing me. And so after that,

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I continue to have the dreams, but instead of him

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coming up to the porch and into the house, he

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sat behind a tree in my front yard and just

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watched me. He would peek around the tree and just

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keep an eye on me, you know. So that was

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pretty comforting. But so that's how my obsession with Bigfoot began.

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Oh my goodness, that's incredible. So that was ages five

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to nineteen.

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Five to nineteen wow, mm hmm. And then when I

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was in my early teens, after a friend of mine

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had passed away, I started having experiences with mediumship and

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I started speaking to people who had passed while I

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was sleeping, only while I was sleeping.

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And this all happened in the Midwest.

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He said, yeah, I lived in Michigan. Yeah, okay, center

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of the Palm.

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Yeah, well that's that's very interesting. So that was definitely

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that was east of Mannistee National Forest, I would guess.

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Okay that yeah, right in the center of the palm.

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So it's about twelve miles north of Battle Creek, Michigan.

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You know Battle Creek where they make the cereal.

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It's further south than I realized, the south of Grand Rapids. Okay,

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well that's cool.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that all happened, and then that's

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how I came into my obsession with big I wrote

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literally like took over my entire childhood, you know, so

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fast forward I did. Just because of the mediumship. I

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started really getting into ghost hunting and stuff like that.

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And then you know, I lived my life. I did

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my bucket list before I had my baby at forty two.

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You know. So when I had my my daughter, I

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started I became a raking master because I wanted to

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you know, try to help heal me my body and

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my soul, you know, before really getting into motherhood. And

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I started having a lot of you know, feelings of

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Bigfoot again. And so I had the opportunity to go

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camping in Klamath Falls and Wolf Creek and we had

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some way. Yeah, it was oh my god, it was awesome.

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It was so primitive. Wolf Creek is so primitive, but

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so that when we were up there, I had a

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few experiences that were unexplained, just noises and sounds and

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feelings energy, you know, vibes and stuff. And so I

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was like, you know, I have to move to Oregon.

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I was living in California at the time, so I

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was like, I got to move to Oregon. So we did.

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We packed up and we moved to Oregon. And it

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ended up in Sweet Home just because of the location

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and circumstances. And when I got to suite at home,

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I had I got a car and I had put stickers,

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a few Bigfoot stickers on them, and all of a sudden,

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it was like a magnet for people who wanted to talk.

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And these hunters and fishers and sportsmen would see the

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stickers on my card loggers too, Oh my gosh. So

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they would see the stickers on my car. They'd either

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they'd flag me down when I was driving through town,

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or they would wait in the parking lot at the

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grocery store and wait for me to come out of

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the grocery store to tell me their stories about Bigfoot.

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And it was overwhelming. I could not believe the amount

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of people, men in particular, who wanted to get this

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off their chest. You know what I mean. It was

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like it was painful for them, but when they talked

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about it, they felt so much relief. And I felt

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that from them, and I was like, you know what,

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something that Sweet Home doesn't have is a bigfoot group.

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And I said, I felt like, I'm I felt like

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that this is what I'm supposed to do. This is

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what I'm going to do, and this is what I'm

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going to focus on. And so I started the Sweet

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Home Sasquatch Group and I keep it private and they

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trust me, and I keep my locations private, and it's

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just ever since I started it, it's just been like

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this big, wonderful gift. And so that's when I put

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my boots on the ground, was when I started the group,

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and that was in February of twenty twenty four.

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That is such a really cool story of how that

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just that whole journey. And because I honestly didn't know

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what your background was with all this o's nobody does,

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I know.

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That's why that's why I wanted to tell you, Jeremiah,

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because I was like, I feel like this is a

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story that is really going to resonate with a lot

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of people, and then they'll be able to understand me

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a little bit more.

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So one thing you said it was very interesting. I

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want to make sure that I heard it right. So

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you're driving around in this town and you have just

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a few probably like basic Bigfoot silhouette stickers on the back,

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and you have people actually saying like, pull over, I

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need to talk to you.

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Yes, yes, yeah, that was before I decked my car out.

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Now my car my rig is like, well, you know,

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it's like the Bigfoot rig. But yeah, this was, this

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was before all that. I just had a few stickers

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and you know, I think I had one in the

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window that said Bigfoot Research you know. Okay, so yeah,

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yeah it was it was a magnet. Yeah, how cool

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is that? So?

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Yeah, you you created the group in sweet Home, and

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did all of a sudden you start getting these people actually,

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you know, doing boots on the ground things with you

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in real life, not just on Facebook. You have actual

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groups going out and investigating things or how does it

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usually go?

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Yeah? Yeah, So generally it started out with just me

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and Boots on the Ground and I would go to

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these locations where the these people who had you know,

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stop me or flag me down these reports that I've gotten.

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I started going to those specific locations that they had

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given me and researching them. And then slowly people in

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the group, you know, would started to get interested and

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wanted to participate. So now I have a small group.

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Priscilla from Oakbridge, and I had Jimmy from Washington come down.

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So I have different people come down and do research

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with me, you know, who have areas of expertise or whatever.

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So yeah, so I started learning. Yeah, I started learning

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the trails and sweet Home and I know the system. Now.

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I went up to the ranger station and I asked

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them for a map, and I also asked them for reports,

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and they're not allowed to take reports. However, they do

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tell me that they get a lot of reports, and

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they tell me they give me the locations of where

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they get the reports from. So anybody who's listening who

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wants to you know, find out more about their area,

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go to the ranger station. They don't they're not supposed

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to take reports, but if you find the right one,

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they'll talk to you.

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So I think that's just really that's a huge takeaway

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for it. For listeners, it sounds like you got you

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got the relationship going with the Rangers. You were probably

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you know, nice, just shelley, bubbly, just the way you are,

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and they're like, well, yeah, let's let's contact this person

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from here on out, which is really cool. Or maybe

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you go there every every week or so and you're like, hey,

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anything new. I don't know how you do it, but

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it is pretty.

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I go there about once a month. Yeah, yeah, once

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a month. I'll go in there and you know, see

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if they have any new maps or any new information,

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you know, and make sure I go in there when

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the right people are working, you know, absolutely.

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Yeah, your area has come up a few times on

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the podcast the I Believe I talked to a lady

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about some weird things that happened up in Green Pewter

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Reservoir area, And of course, you know, you don't have

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to confirm or deny since you know, you're not really

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saying locations, which is fine, but yeah, but there are

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episodes out there on the same podcast where you can

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listen to sweet Home Things. But you know, so the

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question for you is, so you move to this area,

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you're starting to get the reports from people on the street,

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from the rangers. It's really getting interesting. Is there a

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time when you first have an actual encounter or something

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weird happen in this area to yourself?

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Absolutely? Absolutely so. In the summer of twenty four, right

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after I started the group, I started finding a lot

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of structures and footprints in a couple of different camping

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areas and also logging areas up off of Highway twenty

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and so I didn't really in this area. I didn't

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really get a lot. I went up to Washington and

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I did some research up there with a friend of mine,

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and I had some experiences like rock clapping and stuff

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like that, but I didn't really start I didn't visually

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see anything until this summer, and so this is when

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it all started to happen, And so I went up.

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I guess I'll just I'll start with the summer. I

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went up in the spring to one of the local campgrounds.

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It was two days after they had actually opened. It

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was like, I think they opened on May seventh, and

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I went on the ninth or something like that, and

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we were driving down a trail and it was a

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group camp, so all the group camp sites were locked,

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the gates were locked, but the trail was open. And

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we were one of my research partners and I were

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in We were driving in my car down the trail

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and it's an out and back. So we're driving down

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the trail and I thought I saw to the left

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of me like a head and shoulders and a back

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or something. And I didn't know right away if it

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was a bear or what it was. So I hurried

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up and stopped the car. And when I stopped the car,

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a tree was blocking me, so I had to back up.

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So I stopped the car, backed up, took me about

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thirty four seconds, and I looked again, and that head

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and shoulders that still had the back to me. And

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mind you, the bushes, the very bushes and stuff like

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that were really high, so it was really thick, thick,

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kind of prickly stuff that you would have to truck through.

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So he was about ten feet away, and then when

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I backed up and looked, he was like another thirty

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feet away. And it was so strange, it was like

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time laps. So I was like okay, And I looked

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down and I said, look at that. Look look and

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I grabbed my phone and as I lifted my phone up,

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it had moved another like thirty or forty feet to

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the left, so it was behind me. I couldn't really

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turn around, and you know, so I backed up again

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and it disappeared. So just like that, it was like boom,

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boom boom, and it was gone. And I was just like, okay,

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what just happened here? Because this is not normal. Like

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I said, it was kind of like time laps, so

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it was really just kind of in pictures almost. I

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didn't see it move, and so that was my first experience. Wow.

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And yeah, it startled me and I thought, well, maybe

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I'm going crazy. I don't know, you know, because it

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wasn't normal. It definitely wasn't natural.

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Man, I want to hang out there for a minute.

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So that just it is so very interesting. So you

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saw it from the back view, head and shoulders back.

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How tall would you say it was? Approximately?

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Oh, at least six feet? Okay, I know that if

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I if I would have stood up, it would have

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you know, towered at least ahead or so above me.

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And would you say it was a certain color.

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Yeah, it was like a like a reddish brown, but

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it was on the softer side, so like a pale

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reddish brown. Okay.

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At any time did you see a front view of

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it or was it always from the back view?

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Never? It was always from the back or from the

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back side. But I didn't get a profile of it.

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Gotcha? Were you able to were you able to see

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what maybe the shape of the head looked like even

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from the back.

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Yeah, it was conical, definitely conical, and it I didn't

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have ears, and that's why I thought at first it

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could have been a bear. But then I was like,

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it doesn't look like a bear. It looks like that's

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the only thing I could associate with it because I've

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never seen it in real life, you know what I mean.

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So the first thing you think of is what can

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I compare it to? And I thought, well, it's got

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to be a bear, but no, not the way that

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it moved.

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No, it's you also said something really interesting, which I

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hear come up a lot, and which is when you

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have a sighting of something immediately or soon after, sometimes

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the person will jump to I'm not crazy. I'm not crazy,

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because it is so jarring, right, and I've heard that

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come up multiple times. So was this the thing that really, like,

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were you already over the one hundred percent mark or

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did this like really push you over once you had

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this actual sighting?

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Yeah, this pushed me over. I was like at ninety

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nine percent just because I had such a strong pull

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to it. You know, my childhood was surrounded with you know,

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this this thing, and but this pushed me over one

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hundred percent.

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My goodness, It's just it is absolutely wild. The person.

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So there was another person with you, right.

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Yeah, so this I had my one of my research partners,

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Tammy Virus with me. Okay, yeah, but she didn't see it.

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She did not say I pointed. I was like look, Tammy, look,

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and she just she did not see it. Oh but

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something I forgot something when we had So it was

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an in and out trail. So we went down and

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returned around and came back. And as we were leaving

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that trail, something was in those bushes right alongside the

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car on Tammy's side, which would have been the same

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side that I had saw the creature on. Something was

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moving the bushes and I would stop the car and

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Tammy and say the bushes are moving, they're moving, you know,

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and I'd start the car and they'd start moving again.

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And it did that almost all the way off the trail,

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but we never saw anything in the bushes. Wow.

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What What an incredible thing to experience. Also, if people

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are listening and they are thinking the same thing, like, oh,

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I'm crazy for seeing this, You're not. You are You're

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not crazy. It's just this is a thing where it's

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very unique to see and it's a special thing for

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you to see. So don't think you're crazy again.

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Absolutely.

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Oh man, So after you had that sighting, did that

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how did that affect you? Did you have any out

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of place emotions or thoughts or did it make your

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life weird? For a while?

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It did well. It made me want to go back

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out there, and it made me want to just I

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kind of started obsessing over it, like I need to

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be out there. I need to you know, I need

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to figure out what this was and what it meant,

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because I felt like it was there. There was a

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reason why I saw it. So I felt like, you know,

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at their head, this can't be it, you know what

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I mean, Like there's a message. I don't know what

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it is, but I need to find out, you know.

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So yeah, so I went up. I started going out

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very often, like two, three, four times a week even,

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and I started, you know, doing the trail, all the

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trails up there in that area really hardcore. And as

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a matter of fact, one of the specific trail is

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one of the trails that the ranger told me that

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they had had sightings on. So so I was taking

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the trails and I took another friend up there with me,

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who is not to be named because he wants to

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remain anonymous, and him and I together we were finding

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structures and prints. And one time when we were coming

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out of this long trail, I was driving probably about

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ten or fifteen miles an hour that's usually my speed

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limit back there, and I was watching in front of me,

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and probably about I would say, maybe two hundred feet

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in front of me, I saw two black shadow, well

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one black shadow, but I saw it twice. It crossed

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the road and then it came back really quickly, and

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I stopped the car and I told my friend, I said,

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what is going on up here? There's something going on.

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I just saw something. And just as he looked up,

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we both saw it again, and he was just like, wait,

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did you just see blah blah blah, And I said, yeah,

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that's exactly what I saw. So I saw it twice

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and then you saw it once, and you know, so

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I saw it three times. So we saw that and

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we I then I had to research that, you know,

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like there's a lot of different stories about the shadow

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people of the forest and how they're messengers or protectors

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or you know things like that. So yeah, that was

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my Yeah, it was really intense, also life changing. You know,

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did you.

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After you've had these experiences, did you notice any change

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in dreams at all?

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No, not at all, which is really surprising to me

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because since I've been in Sweet Home, I have not

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had any of my previous dreams that I have had,

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and none about Sasquatch. Yeah, and so that was another thing,

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Jeremiah that things for reminded me. I felt like, because

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I was missing those dreams, I was missing something and

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I wanted to communicate with them, and I felt like

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maybe I was in the right It made me feel

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like Sweet Home was the right spot because they were

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actually reaching out to me and communicating with me in

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real life now, like we switched from one medium to another.

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That's really cool. It's like, we don't have to we

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don't have to do that anymore because she's right there.

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That is actually really.

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Exactly exactly yeah yeah. So ah So anyways, I got stopped.

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I got flagged after that. I got flagged down by

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a logger at the bank one time. Actually I was

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it was it's a funny story. I was over in

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the line at Dairy Queen. I was getting ice cream

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with my daughter and he was over at the bank

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and he yelled at me. He's like, hey, have your

460
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:58.680
phone bigfoot yet, you know. And so we're talking. We're

461
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:03.000
yelling back and forth, and we exchanged numbers and he's

462
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.079
a great guy. He ended up telling me about a

463
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:10.839
spot up in Quartzville. And Quartzville is where Green Peter

464
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:16.319
Reservoir is, and it is full of water and it

465
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:20.079
is full of quarts and it is one of the

466
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:24.319
most energetic places I have ever been. I love it there.

467
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.119
I spend all my time, and all the locals love

468
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:32.839
it there too. That's like their playground, you know. So

469
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:37.599
so I went up there and I hung out, you know,

470
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.680
every day or every other day for a couple of

471
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:45.960
weeks in the spring. This was still spring and I

472
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:50.640
took my anonymous friend up there with me again, and

473
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:55.799
we were cruising around and we found a spot where

474
00:28:56.119 --> 00:29:01.000
there was just a really fresh, beautiful a canopy of

475
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.920
moss on top of asphalt. So it was an old

476
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:09.160
blogging road and the road had been blocked off by

477
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:14.599
concrete barriers. And we pulled up to the concrete barrier,

478
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:16.960
and I'd been there a couple times before that week,

479
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:19.440
and I wanted to show him because I thought it

480
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:21.880
was just so beautiful with all the moss and everything

481
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.920
was a beautiful spot. And we pulled down and we

482
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.559
could tell that the moss was pulled up like there

483
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:31.240
was something going on, something that ran through there. And

484
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.319
he said, well, hold on a second, let me get

485
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:35.519
out and check it out. So he got out, and

486
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.920
he walked out about maybe about fifty feet or so,

487
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:41.839
and he turns around and looks at me and he he,

488
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.839
you know, does that beckoning call with his finger, like

489
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.920
come here, you know. So I got out of the car,

490
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:51.440
and as soon as I got to the other side

491
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:58.160
of the barrier, there were just bigfootprints everywhere like they

492
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:01.119
had just ran through their and you can see it's

493
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:05.559
kind of a downward slope and you could see a

494
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.640
slot like there would be slides that were like two

495
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:13.400
three four feet long, and then a footprint. And this

496
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:17.599
went on for maybe gosh, I don't know, maybe about

497
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.279
one hundred or two hundred yards. So there was I

498
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:24.279
quit counting after I got to fifty. I lost track.

499
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.240
There were elk prints too. Later on, I took somebody

500
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.039
up there with me and I showed it to him,

501
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.240
and he showed me that some of them were elk prints,

502
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.119
and he showed he stuck his fingers in the moss

503
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.480
and he pushed it back and he showed me, so

504
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.440
this is what an elk print looks like, but this

505
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:44.240
is what a big footprint looks like. So there were

506
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:47.640
elk and big footprints. And at the time when I

507
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:50.680
had first I actually recorded it. It's on the web

508
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:55.680
or on the Facebook page. Actually Priscilla recorded it, and

509
00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:58.880
I didn't know that at that time, but I know

510
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:04.960
that now. So yeah, so we were like, okay, this

511
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:09.799
is the place, you know. And a couple of weeks

512
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:15.599
after that, I was driving through with Tammy and Lee Sanford.

513
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:17.720
She's in my group, she's one of my research she's

514
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:23.200
actually one of the original researchers and we were driving

515
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:30.960
together down that road and I looked kind of looking forward,

516
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.000
and then I kind of glanced off to the left

517
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.880
a little bit, and this bigfoot appeared right in front

518
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.839
of me and from the toes up, just kind of

519
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:48.480
manifested and was standing there in between two trees, and

520
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:54.240
I could see like it was it was absolutely an

521
00:31:54.359 --> 00:32:00.720
organic figure. It had hair, I could see it fingers,

522
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:06.359
and then just as quick as it appeared, it disappeared.

523
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.240
And I stopped the car and I told Tammy and Lee,

524
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.119
I said, did you guys see that? And I started

525
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:16.519
hyperventilating because it was it startled me, and They're like, no,

526
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:20.480
what are you talking about. I'm like, you gotta be

527
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.559
kidding me. This is twice now that I've seen them

528
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:29.359
with somebody, but they haven't, you know. So then I

529
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:34.599
started really thinking, Okay, God, what's wrong with me? You know, Like,

530
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:40.160
am I manifesting this myself or what? But Jeremiah, this

531
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:44.319
is the interesting thing is when I got home, I

532
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.640
cried about it for about twenty minutes. I was so

533
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.480
upset because nobody else saw what I saw, and it

534
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:56.480
spoke to me and it told me I have been

535
00:32:56.680 --> 00:33:05.240
with you your whole life. I've been protecting you. So

536
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.039
I met him. He was the one in my dream.

537
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:11.359
Okay, wow, oh that's awesome.

538
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:17.720
Yeah, I know it still gives me goose bumps when

539
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.759
I think about it. But that's when, like around the

540
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:25.680
time that I started having I guess telepathy with them

541
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.799
or visions. It's more like visions of you know, seeing

542
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:35.079
things and stuff. When I went down to the footprints,

543
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.119
I remember I turned around and I looked, and I

544
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:41.079
was like, where did they come from? And I thought,

545
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.720
there's a road, there's another road. There a trail that

546
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:46.599
goes up and then it's blocked by a bunch of

547
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.359
trees and stuff. But then on the corner there's some

548
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.160
trails and there's an old what do you call it

549
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:57.000
the line where like the loggers used to use to

550
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.680
run the logs down the hill. I forget what it's called.

551
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.839
It's like a spit spit line or something or I

552
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:07.880
don't know, Yeah, I forget what it's called. But anyways,

553
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.440
that's a you know, it would be a good trail,

554
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:16.480
especially for big game and stuff. But in my mind,

555
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:22.760
I saw them come down that the paved asphalt trail,

556
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.920
and I said, that's where they came from. And the

557
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:27.800
person I was with was like, no, no, no, I

558
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:30.239
think they came from up there where that old bogging

559
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.039
trail is up on the hill. And I was like, no,

560
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:36.360
they came down the asphalt. So I drove up there

561
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:40.159
and lo and behold, there's a whole bunch of prints

562
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.920
going all the way back and over those trees logs

563
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.599
that were lying down over the asphalt. So and there's

564
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:48.880
also a moss up there on the sides of the

565
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.199
road and the asphalt. So that's where I saw the

566
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:55.039
prince was in that moss right there, these visions start

567
00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:01.760
happening or this telet that the starts happening, you know, Yeah.

568
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:05.000
That's exactly where I wanted to go. So that is

569
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.599
that just started happening this year in twenty twenty five.

570
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.440
Yes, yeah, yeah, that just started happening this spring in May,

571
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.599
as soon as I, you know, really started getting into

572
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:20.400
these trails up here in Courtsville. Yeah.

573
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:27.719
So that's that's extremely interesting, and it kind of there's

574
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:33.440
there's a theory I have which is people go to

575
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.679
certain areas, especially in the Pacific Northwest, that are like,

576
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:42.119
I don't want to say, well, kind of heavily charged

577
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.960
with bigfoot activity, like really really charged, like we're talking like,

578
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:48.480
you know, Oak Cole is probably another example of this,

579
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:54.480
And after they go away from there, sometimes stuff will

580
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:59.320
kick in. They'll start experiencing the same exact things that

581
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:04.400
you just mentioned, which is maybe things like telepathy or

582
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.039
you know, sometimes I talked to many, many people that

583
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:10.199
went up to that area in Oakridge and then they

584
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:15.920
started having really intense dreams and related phenomenons. So I

585
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.480
don't know exactly what it is, but it really lines

586
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.239
up with how you're explaining what you're experiencing.

587
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:27.639
Yeah. Yeah, when he told me, I I wanted to

588
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.159
mention too that when he told me that he was

589
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:34.760
protecting me my whole life, Jeremiah, that rings true because

590
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:38.360
I needed that kind of protection when I was younger,

591
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:42.599
because I was surrounded by a few really bad people,

592
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.800
but I didn't experience the badness as bad as I

593
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.480
could have. So that resonates with me, Like I do

594
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.639
believe that I had some kind of spiritual protection during

595
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.760
that time in my life. It could have been way worse,

596
00:36:59.159 --> 00:36:59.920
you know what I mean.

597
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:04.960
Absolutely, So yeah, knowing you know, you have a lot

598
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:09.239
of knowledge about this area and living in the Pacific Northwest,

599
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:12.840
and this is just a really active bigfoot area.

600
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:14.960
Have you.

601
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:21.239
Are most of the things that you hear relatively peaceful

602
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:26.360
encounters when a person has a sighting, or are there

603
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:32.440
times when things can escalate or bluff charges things like that.

604
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:37.159
That's a really great question, and I've been studying that.

605
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:45.360
So during the spring and summer, they are very peaceful interactions.

606
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.480
There's no aggression. It's usually family oriented or you know,

607
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:54.639
it's just some guys outfish and whatever. They don't start

608
00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:01.199
getting aggressive until hunting seasons starts, and both seasons starts

609
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:06.760
August thirty first, and in August mid August is when

610
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.159
these reports start getting aggressive.

611
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:17.760
Yeah, it makes sense that you have humans going out

612
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:22.599
there with their weapons, and of course things might get aggressive, right.

613
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.000
I would too if someone came out to my house

614
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:27.360
with something.

615
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.719
With a grocery sack and like started taking food out

616
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.000
of your refrigerator. That's what I compare it to. You know,

617
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.119
it's like they're competing for a food source now, so

618
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.199
you know, they're like, hey, okay, just get out of here,

619
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:48.760
you know, yeah, totally. So recently I wanted to tell

620
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:51.719
you this. This is I know that I had scheduled

621
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:56.039
an appointment to talk to you earlier, but that was

622
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:58.199
during the time when I was having a lot of

623
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:02.280
stuff going around going on around me with the bigfoots,

624
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:04.800
and I wanted to wait and kind of write it

625
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:08.719
out and see what else was going to happen. And

626
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:14.639
so this happened four weeks ago and I was driving

627
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:20.360
down Quartzville Road and actually it had started. I had

628
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.800
meetings on the last Saturday of every month. We all

629
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.840
meet at this place called the Damn Bar in Sweet Home,

630
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:31.639
and you know, it's for anybody who was interested in

631
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.639
talking about bigfoot. You know, we gather, we hang out,

632
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.960
and then you know, we go out squatch and afterwards

633
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:41.599
that's really fun. And most of the time I have

634
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.239
one of my group members, Eric Massey. He's one of

635
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:47.480
my advans. I love him to death. He's a squatcher

636
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:50.679
through and through. He comes all the way from Ben

637
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.119
and he camps because that's kind of a long drive,

638
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:57.920
you know. So he camps up in Quartsville and we

639
00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:59.599
always go up there and we go up to that

640
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:03.559
spot now I call it my spot, the sweet Spot,

641
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:08.400
and we camp. And so one night, this was four

642
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.079
weeks ago, at our last meeting, we went up there

643
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.719
and nothing was happening. It was super quiet, and I'm

644
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:20.239
so close, like as the crow flies. I'm probably about

645
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.559
maybe fifteen miles maybe twenty at the most away from

646
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:26.000
my spot, you know, so it takes me about an

647
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.519
hour to get home. I was like, dude, there's that.

648
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.719
I'm not camping tonight. I'm gonna go home. I want

649
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.199
to sleep in my bed and I'll be back at

650
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.519
six o'clock in the morning. And he's like, all right, cool.

651
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:39.719
You know. He had his fiance with him, so he

652
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:44.960
wasn't alone, you know. And so I headed down the hill.

653
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:48.159
I was excited because I wanted to see how fast

654
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:52.320
I could get down the hill in the dark. So

655
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.880
I time myself and it took like seven minutes. I

656
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:57.519
was like, wow, this is awesome. I'm driving down the road,

657
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:03.039
Quartsville Road, and I get to this really popular camp

658
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:07.960
site and there's a curve and right as I come

659
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.760
around the curve, right straight in front of me, about

660
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.559
fifty two one hundred feet in front of me is

661
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:19.800
two sets of red glowing eyes. And there's one set

662
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.320
on the left side of me that's really low to

663
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:26.440
the ground, really low to the ground, like its head

664
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:30.280
was on the ground, and then to the right there

665
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:34.480
was another set of eyes that was from the side

666
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:36.239
of the road. From the ground, it was probably about

667
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.119
four feet or maybe five feet up in the air,

668
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:44.880
so it was relatively low to the ground. And the

669
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.320
first I instantly slowed way down, almost to a complete stop.

670
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:51.519
As a matter of fact, I think I did stop

671
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:57.159
for a moment completely, And I remember thinking right away,

672
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.000
who is in the woods in the middle of the night.

673
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.199
It was ten thirty. It was ten thirty at night,

674
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:10.519
in pitch dark, with like steampunk goggles, you know, That's

675
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.159
the first thing I thought of. I'm like, who has

676
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.440
steampunk goggles in the mill of nite on Quartzville Road.

677
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:20.880
This is just crazy. So I started sneaking up. I'm

678
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.280
going about ten miles an hour, and I'm sneaking up

679
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.320
to them. I'm getting really really close to them, and

680
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.079
I'm just looking at them. And then I noticed that

681
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:30.320
their eyes are kind of shaped. They're about as big

682
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:36.920
around as a large a large chicken egg, and they're

683
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:40.639
so far apart they would each eye would be. You

684
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.639
could measure it by probably putting the eggs on the

685
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:47.079
side of my head. That's how far apart. Their eyes

686
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:50.960
were and I thought, this isn't an owl. There's no

687
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.119
you know, it's not an owl. Their heads aren't that big.

688
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:58.159
It's not an elk. You know, elks are huge, they

689
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:01.159
have horns. You know. All these things are running through

690
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:08.559
my head. And the one to the right behind the tree,

691
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.239
and I say she because it just gave me that

692
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.199
feminine energy. I could see a silhouette and she kind

693
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:19.280
of had curly hair, and she would look she'd look

694
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:22.840
at me, and then she's kind of standing sideways behind

695
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:24.840
a tree, so I can only see her from the

696
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.519
shoulder off, and she'd look at me, and then she'd

697
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.719
turn around and look behind her. And she did that

698
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:35.519
maybe three or four times. She was trying to pay

699
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:39.440
attention to something that was behind her. And then I

700
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.559
looked over at the one on the ground and it

701
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:46.400
kind of locked eyes with me. To the one on

702
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:48.760
the left hand side of the road. It locked eyes

703
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:52.159
with me, and it didn't take its eyes off me.

704
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:54.800
It just kept his eyes on me the whole time.

705
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:58.400
I looked back to the right to that one, and

706
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.400
she was doing the same thing, and she was kind

707
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:03.000
of making it was like a weird motion. It was

708
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:06.719
like a real delicate kind of sway. And then I

709
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:09.239
looked over again at the one on the left, and

710
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.880
I was so close I was almost even with and

711
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:18.480
my headlights went over its back, and as it did that,

712
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:24.920
it's back kind of rippled and like this sparkly kind

713
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:31.599
of glow, like an iridescent kind of glow, and it

714
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:35.199
just it watched me pass and my window was down.

715
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:38.119
Never once did I have the feeling like I should

716
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:42.960
roll my window up. I didn't. I wasn't scared. It

717
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.400
didn't make me feel uneasy. It just made me like, wonder,

718
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:51.079
what is it? You know? And yeah, So I passed

719
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.199
through both, in between both of them, and he's literally

720
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:56.320
ten feet away from me. He's right on the side

721
00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:01.719
of the road, and I passed between them, and I

722
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:05.559
remember I slowed down right down again once I got

723
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.760
probably about one and a half two car links away

724
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:10.440
from them, and I looked in my rear view mirror

725
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:14.199
and I couldn't see anything, nothing at all. I was like, Okay.

726
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.639
I took a deep breath, and I drove home, and

727
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.079
I thought about it a little bit and I was like, oh,

728
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:22.400
I don't whatever. I got to be up at six

729
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.239
o'clock in the morning. So I went to bed and

730
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:28.400
I came back at six through at six o'clock in

731
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:30.920
the morning, and I remember I stopped and I looked,

732
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:35.079
and I saw that on the side, on the driver's side,

733
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.760
where the one was really low to the ground, there's

734
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:41.079
a culver there, and if you were to stand in

735
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:44.960
it and bend over, you would be even with the

736
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.519
ground with you know, your head would be on the

737
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:50.760
ground on the side of the road. The calver is

738
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:55.079
probably about four feet deep at least. And then I

739
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.199
looked on the other side of the road and the

740
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:01.360
grass is all pushed down, and also there is a calvert.

741
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:04.320
And later on me and my other friend went up

742
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.559
there and checked it out, and there's a footprint there

743
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.079
and if you would stand, if you would stand where

744
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:13.920
that creature was standing, it would be about seven to

745
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:14.800
eight feet tall.

746
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:21.039
That is incredible. When you were driving down there that night,

747
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.920
So did you have lights on whatever it was or

748
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.079
we did you have your lights off?

749
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:31.320
Yeah? No, So when I came around the corner, I

750
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:34.400
had my bright lights on and when I saw them,

751
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:39.199
instantly I flicked down to my dims. Okay, because I

752
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.119
didn't I didn't want to blind them, you know, and

753
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:44.639
just instant reaction. I just flicked them down to my

754
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.239
dims and I kept my dims on until I passed

755
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:49.000
them because I didn't, like I said, I didn't want

756
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:50.719
to blind them, you know, I was just thinking trying

757
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:54.840
to be courteous, you know. And this was before I

758
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:57.559
had my floodlights on. Like a few days after that,

759
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:01.639
I ordered floodlights for my car. I was like, I

760
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:05.440
need floodlights. And also I got cameras for my car too,

761
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:09.119
So now I have front and back cameras. I wish

762
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:10.760
I would have had them during that time.

763
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:16.880
But yeah, after you put the cameras in, did you

764
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:20.559
notice that you were still having things happen when you're

765
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:24.360
driving around different places or did that kind of did

766
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:25.079
that peter out?

767
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:32.360
Yeah, petered out? Yep, Yeah, yep. So I started just recently,

768
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:34.920
within the past couple of weeks, I started actually turning

769
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:39.440
my cameras off when I drive into certain places because

770
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:43.239
I don't want to. I feel like they know, you know,

771
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:47.440
they know, they don't want to be seen. And I

772
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:50.280
have a theory about their eyes too. I think that

773
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:53.039
because I've I posted about it in my group and

774
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:57.519
in the Sasquatch Highway because I admin that group as well,

775
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.679
and I posted about it asking people, you know, hey,

776
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:05.119
have you seen these red glowing eyes? Not yellow, not blue,

777
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:09.239
not you know, purple, whatever red glowing eyes and what

778
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:11.800
people's theories are on it. And I've come to a

779
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.400
conclusion that I don't think it has anything to do

780
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:18.039
with them being evil or you know, a dog man

781
00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:21.159
or anything like that. And my personal belief, this is

782
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:25.880
my personal belief. I believe that it could be a

783
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:32.599
way for them to signal to other sasquatch that they're

784
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:36.639
with that you know here I am, That's how they

785
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:38.920
keep track of each other, you know. Or it could

786
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:41.639
even be like a night vision for them, like that's

787
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:44.480
how they see at night.

788
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:50.800
I would say, I have heard some similar things, and

789
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:55.000
I think you are on a very interesting track. I'll

790
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:55.519
leave it at that.

791
00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:04.119
Yeah, Yeah, it's still new. That's where I'm leaning at least. Yeah.

792
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.400
You mentioned that your research area goes up to Detroit

793
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:14.519
sometimes Detroit, Oregon. I drove up through there on the

794
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:19.360
way to Esta Kaida after the festival last year. Detroit

795
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.880
is such an interesting area. I mean, it was it's

796
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:26.079
very hard to explain. It's beautiful. You have the island

797
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:30.199
in the middle of Detroit Lake. But it's just something

798
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.159
about I mean, it feels heavy in there. It's very weird.

799
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:38.800
I tried to talk to a few people. I was

800
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:44.199
stopping at random places. No one was really wanting to talk.

801
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:51.840
It was interesting. Yeah, have you had anything interesting happen

802
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:53.480
up there in Detroit.

803
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:58.239
Not anything out of the ordinary, aside from that heavy

804
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.480
feeling that you talk about. So when we go up there,

805
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:04.000
we camp on the south side of the lake, and

806
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:09.760
that area actually backs up to Quartzville area, so they're connected.

807
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:12.000
You can actually take the trails back there and you

808
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.679
can drive all the way to Detroit Lake from Quartzville

809
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.559
and it's awesome. It's so because it goes through the

810
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:23.280
old Santium Forest and everything else. But as far as

811
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:26.920
Detroit Lake goes, it's just a feeling. It's that heavy feeling.

812
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:31.519
But yeah, no, we've never never, but I've heard so

813
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:37.000
many reports of that area. That area in Highway twenty two,

814
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:41.440
twenty two is the one that goes through Detroit and

815
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:44.760
the lakes. On the north side of twenty two. There's

816
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:48.320
a lake up there called Fay Lake that I research

817
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:53.320
a lot, and I have quite a few reports of

818
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:58.280
them being very aggressive up there, and it's usually during

819
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.920
hunting season, and it's men who take their campers up there.

820
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.920
They'll actually throw rocks and sticks and shake the campers

821
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:09.800
at night when they're sleeping. Oh my god.

822
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:13.320
Okay, yeah you said, did you say Fay Lake.

823
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:16.159
Say f a y Yeah.

824
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:19.119
Okay Fay. I was like, Fae that would be interesting,

825
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:25.079
So f a y Lake now mm hmm, because you

826
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:26.840
brought it up again, and I was like, if she

827
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:29.519
brings it up again, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask a

828
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:30.159
little bit more.

829
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:30.320
So.

830
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:33.679
You mentioned that this area does have a lot of

831
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.599
aggressive reports. Are there any that you can and think

832
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:41.119
of in particular or it's just you find certain patterns

833
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:44.320
in these reports that usually come out when it's an

834
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:45.360
aggressive report.

835
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:49.360
M hmm. Well, I there's a gentleman that I talked to.

836
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.440
Him and his brother in law. I've both had experiences

837
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:57.840
up there during hunting season with their campers, and yeah,

838
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.360
it was just the rock throwing at the camp and

839
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:03.199
then the shaking of the campers. And he told me

840
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:06.559
that his brother in law was so frightened that he

841
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.360
just he hooked his trailer back up and left that

842
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:12.880
night before it even got daylight. He was odd of

843
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:16.079
there and he won't go back. So but the gentleman

844
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:18.199
who gave me the report, he told me he's really

845
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:20.800
cautious when he goes up there. He pays attention to

846
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:24.719
his surroundings. And you know, and I notice a lot

847
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.599
of people too, like they won't a lot of these

848
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.840
hunters they want to remain anonymous because they're like flesh

849
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.639
and blood, you know. But when they go out into

850
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:36.199
the forest, they'll talk to him and they'll be like, hey,

851
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:41.400
I'm here peacefully. I don't you know, mean you any harm.

852
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.639
I'm just I just want to get my deer for

853
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:49.519
the winner and go, you know. And I noticed that

854
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:52.519
when they when they talk to him and just you know,

855
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:59.039
tell them their intentions and manifest that spiritual protection or whatever,

856
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:02.960
that they'll have better experiences out there.

857
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.639
Oh wow, So you're these are a actual hunters that

858
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:11.639
are talking in a way that you you might not

859
00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:16.119
normally hear hunters talk. But it seems like they're aware

860
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:18.519
of that we better do this or there could be

861
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:22.840
could be issues. Absolutely fascinating.

862
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.519
Yeah, it really is. Because I want to mention too,

863
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:31.639
like they will that changed them. Those experiences that they

864
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:38.239
had with Bigfoot changed them and made them more like

865
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:39.519
spiritual beings.

866
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:44.280
You know absolutely, I mean that would that would really

867
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:48.519
change you? Did I tell you? Actually, I wouldn't have

868
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:50.960
been able to tell you because this happened after the festival.

869
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:54.960
I don't know if if you've heard. So I was

870
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:59.400
up in oak hole and I actually did try speaking

871
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:01.880
out loud to the forest. What happened?

872
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:04.920
Nice that happened? It was weird.

873
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:05.760
It was really weird.

874
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:06.119
Shelley.

875
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:11.199
So it's in you know where o Cole is, right, Yeah, I.

876
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:13.280
Was there a couple of weeks ago with Persilla.

877
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:15.840
Yeah, so you met you know the meadow, right, So

878
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:18.840
picture the meadow and then there's that opening in the back.

879
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:20.519
So I was.

880
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:24.000
I was walking back in that opening behind the meadow

881
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:27.760
and I was like, hey, if there's anything here, can

882
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:32.440
you make a noise? And like half a second later

883
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:38.960
there was there was like a three knocks in the woods,

884
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:42.639
and I was like, oh my goodness, And I said

885
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.199
it again. I tried it because I was like, that

886
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:47.880
just had to be you know, that just had to

887
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:51.159
be like coincidence, right. So I did the same thing again,

888
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:54.519
and the same thing happened, and I was like, I'm

889
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:57.400
out of here, Like I was, I'm getting back to

890
00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:00.960
Ronnie and those guys. I should walked, I should have

891
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:02.760
walked into the woods, but I was like, I don't

892
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:06.800
want to. I'm I'm out here. Yeah that's not smart, right, Yeah,

893
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:09.480
it was awesome, it was it was freaky.

894
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.519
Yeah, I bet. I remember Priscilla telling me about that,

895
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:15.679
but she didn't tell me who it was. But now

896
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:21.519
I know. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. Yeah. I was still

897
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:23.320
stuck there a couple of weeks ago, and this is

898
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:27.360
this is another really cool thing, Jeremiah that I figured out. So, like,

899
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.719
I'm really into maps and mapping and like lay lines

900
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:35.880
and stuff like that. So I've been studying the region

901
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:39.239
and I finally figured out a couple of weekends ago

902
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:41.519
when I was up at Oak Hole. We went over

903
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.519
to al Moonlab and checked that out for a bit.

904
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:50.519
That Quartsville, Oak Cole and all Moonlab make a perfect

905
00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:57.280
triangle on the map. That crazy. Yes, and Mackenzie Watershed

906
00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:01.800
runs right through it. Yeah, and Mackenzie Watershed is a

907
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:04.920
huge place. They have a huge lot tons of reports

908
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:11.119
out of there. Yeah, okay, wow, crazy, I know, I

909
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:11.400
know it.

910
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:16.760
Yeah, I've actually never heard that term before. Mackenzie Watershed.

911
00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:20.440
Is that just a term for region in that area?

912
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:25.519
Or well, the Mackenzie River runs through there, Okay, so

913
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:31.400
and Okol and Almon Lab and Quartzville are all. They

914
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:36.519
all have like a lot of quartz and stuff, a

915
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:38.719
lot of rock, you know, it's up in the mountains

916
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:42.960
of course, but the quartz in particular is it's an

917
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:47.599
energy rock. You know, it's a conduit. So with the

918
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.719
water and everything, with Mackenzie River being right there, I

919
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:54.079
have a theory that it's just a really really powerful

920
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:56.960
energy point in that whole area.

921
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:03.840
Absolutely. I remembers I've heard and talked to so many

922
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:06.360
people over these it was either a conversation with Tobe

923
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:10.119
or an interview with Tobe where he was talking about

924
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:14.199
where's That's pretty much what Henry Franzoni would bring up

925
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.760
about the Al Moon Lab areas. There's so much quartz

926
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.119
and also you have the water as well, and it

927
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:25.360
just it potentially charges it, right, which is absolutely interesting

928
00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:26.239
to think of.

929
00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:29.360
And I think that's yeah, that's my Oa. Cole and

930
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:34.239
al Moon Lamb in Quartsville are so active and there's

931
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:37.199
so many reports coming out of those areas is because

932
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:41.000
and I kind of feel like too, like the attitude

933
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:43.719
is different. They're not, as far as I know, even

934
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:47.000
in Oak Hole and Al Moonlab, they're not super aggressive

935
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:52.079
and they're more willing to communicate. So maybe that might

936
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:54.280
have something to do with it. It could.

937
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:58.159
I'm trying to think real quick. Well, let's see, I

938
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:04.119
the only aggressive thing would be and this is This

939
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:07.119
is all in how you'd interpret it, because you've got

940
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:11.480
Ronnie and Dwaine's encounter. Ronnie made the noise that was aggressive,

941
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:14.760
and I think that was kind of a bluff charge thing,

942
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:19.880
an extended bluff charge for multiple hours kind of aggressive.

943
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:24.480
But yeah, everything else, you know, you're capturing language and

944
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:27.760
voices on audio sometimes up there. Have you had anything

945
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:30.760
out of the ordinary happen up there at all?

946
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:35.480
Yeah, So most of the stuff that I've experienced has

947
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:40.239
been electronic. So when we were up there, when I

948
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:42.239
was up there with Priscilla a couple of weeks ago,

949
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:47.079
we were having a lot of equipment malfunctions, our cameras, audio,

950
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:51.480
everything was just malfunctioning. I think Ben drove up there,

951
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:56.039
Persilla's son, and he something was going weird with his car.

952
00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:00.119
Or his car battery or something. I also have a

953
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:04.360
lot of electronic malfunctions over in my area with my car,

954
00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:10.239
not with any of my equipment, but the mirrors on

955
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:13.559
my car. So I've got a twenty seventeen out back,

956
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:16.480
so I have eyesight and it's a you know, it's

957
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:21.719
a limited edition, so it's got the works. And on

958
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:26.719
my mirrors, I have that blind spot sensor. It'll blink

959
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:31.119
when there's a car in my blind spot. And this

960
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:36.400
has only happen up at Quartzville. On Quartzville Road at night,

961
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:41.760
those sensors will occasionally go off, and it's so weird

962
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:45.280
because first the one on the left will go off,

963
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:47.920
or the one on the right will go off, and

964
00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:51.639
then directly after the one on the left will go off,

965
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:54.880
kind of like something's running behind my car, you know,

966
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:58.880
and there's there's no cars or anything behind me. So

967
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:00.960
I get that all lot up there.

968
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:04.760
Yeah, that's that's the kind of thing that makes you

969
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:08.199
makes you think for sure when when you hear stuff

970
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:11.639
like that, just very very weird stuff. You said that

971
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:14.639
you go over to Sisters as well, is that right?

972
01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:19.400
Yeah? Sisters area, Yeah, it's we go up to Santiam

973
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:23.760
Junction and then Tombstone Passes up there and everything, and

974
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:30.360
then towards Sisters. I haven't done any overnight camps or

975
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:35.599
anything up there, but it's a beautiful place I do have.

976
01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:39.840
There's been several members in the group who have seen

977
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:46.039
structures and footprints up and Sisters, So okay, I need

978
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:48.559
to I need to do a little more exploring up there.

979
01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:54.159
Yeah, it's it's really an interesting area. I stayed at

980
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:58.559
a place called Subtle Lake there after the festival for

981
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:01.719
a few days and drove up to a place called

982
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:04.760
Camp Sherman, which a beautiful area. I mean it's like

983
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:08.719
a trout fishing vacation area, but it's like, yeah, you

984
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:12.920
get out in those woods, it's a whole different time

985
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:15.519
period for sure. You just feel like you're back in

986
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:16.719
the fifties or something.

987
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:20.719
It's weird, right, Yeah, it's really weird. That's like up

988
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:24.679
at Courtzville there's old logging cabins that you can't really

989
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:26.679
get to, but you can see them if you stop.

990
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:29.159
I mean you look over the hill and down and

991
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:32.599
you can see these old logging cabins that had probably

992
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:36.159
been abandoned for one hundred years. You know. That's so cool.

993
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:42.639
Since we're talking about Quartzville, have you do you have

994
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:44.679
any thoughts about the whole Giant store thing.

995
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:51.920
I do. I actually I researched that area. Now. You know,

996
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:55.360
we all know about the video that went viral, and

997
01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:59.800
then there's been a couple other videos of people repelling

998
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:02.480
down that rope. There's a rope there, and I don't

999
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:05.000
advise anybody to do it because it's a very steep

1000
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:09.079
slope and the rope ends abruptly thirty feet off the

1001
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:11.840
ground and if you were to fall, you would definitely

1002
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:19.880
hurt yourself. But there had been bigfoot. There's two that

1003
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:24.639
I know of bigfoot reportings of somebody seeing one on

1004
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:29.119
top of that ridge up there. But as far as

1005
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:33.000
the door goes, the only thing I've really heard about

1006
01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:35.519
that is that video that went viral and then a

1007
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.800
couple of other people who checked it out. I don't

1008
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:42.079
really it doesn't It doesn't really pique my interest all

1009
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:42.480
that much.

1010
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:47.079
It's just it's one of those weird, you know, kind

1011
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:50.679
of viral TikTok things. And then when I found out

1012
01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:52.480
where it was, I was like, oh, yeah, okay, well

1013
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:56.039
that kind of makes sense. But you know, with the

1014
01:02:56.559 --> 01:03:00.880
sweet Home group, Shelle, do you have a a goal

1015
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:05.320
in mind? You know, why is it that that you

1016
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:08.039
want to keep growing this group? What is it that

1017
01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:09.639
you guys are working towards.

1018
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:16.960
Yeah, so, I think in the beginning I wanted to

1019
01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:22.559
be able to connect with somebody in this way because

1020
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:26.400
of my special interest in it and because I just

1021
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:29.639
I needed that support at that time in my life.

1022
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:34.440
And there's several things about the group, like I don't

1023
01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:37.360
you know as far as growing it, that's I'm not

1024
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:40.880
interested in growing that. I admin for the Sasquatch Highway

1025
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:44.719
and you know his group. Ken's group is huge, and

1026
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:48.119
I love that it's growing every day, and it's it's

1027
01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:51.840
a perfect place for everybody to go. My group is

1028
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:59.199
I vet everybody very carefully because of privacy issues, because

1029
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:02.239
of beliefs. If you don't believe in Bigfoot, I don't

1030
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:06.599
particularly think that my group would be good for you.

1031
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:10.519
If you're interested, or you have an open mind, or

1032
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:14.840
you want to know more and explore, by all means,

1033
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:20.920
please come join us, you know, but I can't. I

1034
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:24.719
for number one, one of my pet peeves is people

1035
01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:27.719
trolling on the internet. I hate it. I don't It's

1036
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:32.159
unnecessary it's the past time I can't get into you

1037
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:35.360
know what I mean. So it's it's a serious group.

1038
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:39.800
And so now my goal for the group is just

1039
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:45.280
exploration and research. I just the more researchers I know,

1040
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:51.000
the more I learn, and I love that. It's it's

1041
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:55.039
ultimately it's for me, you know, it's for my own

1042
01:04:55.639 --> 01:05:01.119
you know, source of information and education. But anybody is

1043
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:05.760
welcome to join. Just know that you'll be vetted. So

1044
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:08.639
if you don't believe, Yeah, if you don't believe, then

1045
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:09.639
go somewhere else.

1046
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:12.920
Right, It is a really good group. You do a

1047
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:16.679
really good job with keeping drama and stuff out of it,

1048
01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:18.440
and I appreciate that as a member.

1049
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:19.960
Thank you.

1050
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:26.079
As our time starts to to wrap up, I do

1051
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:29.519
I'm curious just because of you know, the way you

1052
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:34.519
view things in your background, having also had a few visuals,

1053
01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:37.840
do you have any thoughts about, you know, what a

1054
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:43.400
bigfoot actually is when we are or what a sasquatch actually?

1055
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:47.320
Yeah, yeah, I think it's real, and I think it's

1056
01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:54.199
a flesh and blood type creature who has the abilities

1057
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:59.480
that we either can't haven't been able to really tap

1058
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:04.599
into yet, or abilities that we've lost over you know

1059
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:08.639
the ages. I think that it's there's a reason why

1060
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:14.880
it's here. And I believe that once you're tagged, you're tagged,

1061
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:18.599
and that if you have one experience, you will continue

1062
01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:25.559
to have more experiences upon their discretion. I don't think

1063
01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:29.039
that they're by chance. I think that there's a purpose.

1064
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:33.280
I do think that some people have, you know, happened

1065
01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:36.360
to come upon them accidentally or something like that. But

1066
01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:39.440
I think that a lot of these people, a lot

1067
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:45.320
of the serious researchers in the community, they've been tagged

1068
01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:52.719
and they've been chosen, and there's so much more to learn,

1069
01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:55.480
and I think we're starting to finally come into that

1070
01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:58.599
age of you know what exactly it is. I don't

1071
01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:02.400
know exactly what it is, what the message is, but

1072
01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:05.440
it could just be personal for each one of us.

1073
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:08.079
It could just be a personal message, and each one

1074
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:13.519
of our messages is different. But they're spiritual. There's something

1075
01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:18.119
metaphysical about them, and it's magical and it's I'm going

1076
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:23.360
to start crying, that's a way to put it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1077
01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:27.280
it's awesome, And that's just how I feel about them.

1078
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:32.039
Yeah, Mi, Shelley, this has been a great conversation. I

1079
01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:34.679
want to say thank you so much for coming on

1080
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:36.559
the show. I want to make sure you were able

1081
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:40.519
to share everything that you had wanted to share on

1082
01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:43.320
the show today as we start to close out.

1083
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:48.840
Yeah, I think I did want to mention that just

1084
01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:54.119
recently I got some really cool photos up on the

1085
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:58.880
ridge in Quartsville of what I think could be portal,

1086
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:01.639
So I don't know if you guys are interested in that,

1087
01:08:02.039 --> 01:08:06.239
then head over to the Sweet Home organ Sasquatch research

1088
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:10.559
group page and check that out. The photos are there.

1089
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:16.000
I get a lot of conflicting reports from photographers and

1090
01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:18.800
stuff like that, but I think they're really interesting and

1091
01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:22.039
they do coincide with some things that I've seen up there.

1092
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:27.640
So yeah, but that's it. I think we covered everything, Jeremiah.

1093
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:33.000
That's fantastic up until today, which is pretty awesome actually.

1094
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:37.359
And I'll have the link for Shelley's group in the

1095
01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:40.920
description or show notes for this episode guys, so you

1096
01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:44.000
can easily find it. But thank you so much for

1097
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:48.720
coming on the show, Shelley, and look forward to being

1098
01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:51.000
able to talk to you in person next year as well.

1099
01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:56.199
Absolutely, I can't wait. Thank you, Jeremiah, thank.

1100
01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:58.880
You for listening to this episode of The Big Society Podcast,

1101
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.960
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