Feb. 9, 2026

Something Is Following Us on Skookum Ridge | Mt. Hood

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Season 1

In this episode, we delve further into the unsettling experiences shared by Gary Allen as he returns to Skookum Ridge in Oregon’s Mount Hood National Forest, an area he has explored for years while researching Bigfoot activity. Traveling the ridgelines, river crossings, meadows, and campgrounds around Skookum Ridge, Gary recounts a pattern of encounters that unfold across familiar trails and remote sections of forest.


As the terrain changes from dense timber to open clearings and steep canyon slopes, strange sounds, movement in the trees, and unexplained reactions from animals begin to emerge. Campsites, horse trails, and nearby forest roads become part of a larger picture that suggests something is present and aware of those passing through its territory.


Through detailed firsthand accounts rooted in specific locations around Skookum Ridge, this episode offers a grounded look at repeated encounters in one of Oregon’s most active wilderness areas. Join us as we explore what it’s like to spend years returning to the same place, slowly realizing that something may be following every step along the ridge.

Resources:
Gary's channel -
https://www.youtube.com/@bigfootresearchproject8081/videos

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You're listening to BIGFA Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right.

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Big for Society got the privilege of having Gary Allen

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back on today. Of course, you remember Gary was just

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on very recently talking about the things he's experienced over

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the years around the mount Hood area of Oregon and

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a little bit out to the west as well. But

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Gary's got some more very interesting stories to share from

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his years researching around mount Hood. So we tried to

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get him back on as quick as we could and Gary,

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welcome back to the show.

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How are you doing today, sir?

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Thank you doing great, appreciate you let me talk a little.

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Bit absolutely you know we are going to we were

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talking a little bit off before, and we're going to

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try to it sounds like start this up, just go

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through things chronologically, because there's so much stuff that has

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happened to you and other researchers that have been with

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you in the area, and it really sounds like, I mean,

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so far, it's been fascinating, and there's some I went

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through and watched all the videos on your channel and

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it's some crazy stuff that's happening in the mount Hood area.

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Feel free and go right ahead, all.

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Right, well, thank you. So I have notes here just

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because there's there's a lot to cover and I want

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to make sure I do it correctly and try to

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give you all the facts that that happened. So so

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basically in part one that was episode ten two on

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your channel, it was called I Watched a big Foot

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for eight minutes. That happened in twenty nineteen, and up

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to that point, I'd sighted three of them up to

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that point, and I don't know if I if I

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mentioned the second one. The first one I saw on

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a running across a field by my friend's farm down

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down here by Gaston, Oregon. The second one was up

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at Northrop Creek. It's a. It's a campground, brand new,

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really nice. But I heard the scream up there. And

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then the next year we went back because we trained

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in there quite a bit with the horses. The next

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year we went back, we actually sided one while we

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were cooking dinner. It was looking over the top of

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a log that was falling way up the steep hill.

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Really thick forest, but you could see it's silhouette right

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at twilight, looking over a stump at us. I'd gone

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up the next day and there's no tracks, there's nothing,

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but you could see where something was sitting in the

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brush is all knocked down on the other side of

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this stump. And from downhill, you know, the stump was

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a couple hundred feet uphill, and it looked like it

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was maybe, you know, two three feet tall. I'd get

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up there and it's like three or four feet, I mean,

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And so this thing had to be huge to look

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over the top of that, to sit down and look

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over the top of it. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe

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it was squatting, but anyways, that was the second one

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that I saw. The third one I saw was the

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twenty nineteen I call it the Odyssey. It was the

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fourteen mile trip round trip up up over I now

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call it Scukum Ridge, and then back across the three

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rivers back to camp. So that's the one that I

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saw for about eight minutes standing out in a meadow,

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rocking back and forth, kind of slowly walking towards me

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while you know, I was pretty stunned and waiting for

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my girlfriend to come back from the river where she

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had left some of her gear. But we made it

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out of there safe and sound. I didn't know if

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it was going to happen safe and sound or not,

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but here I am. So anyways, that brings this pretty

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much up to date, and I just wanted to touch on

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this because this is probably gonna have to be broken

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into three different segments just to get all the content here.

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But I've had six more sidings. I've seen six more

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of them since then, since twenty nineteen, and I've had

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rocks thrown a rock the size of a basketball. I

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saw it go at a forty five up and hit

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a tree about one hundred feet in there and then

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break every branch down. Of course, kept going. Shouldn't have probably,

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I don't know. And then I've seen them push trees

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over and i've had trees pushed over around me. I

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actually physically saw one push a tree over. Some people

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think that they make that noise without pushing a tree

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over in another dimension or something. I saw one physically

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push the tree. You know. Of course, heard whoops, alcohols.

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I've never besides the one woman scream at at Northrope Creek,

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I haven't really heard them yell or scream at all.

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They just the ones up at hood. They whoop or

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they talk, and I've heard them talk on three or

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four occasions. And they have a language, you know, I

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don't understand it, but they have one almost sounds a

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cross between Arabic and Asian to me. And then of

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course I've seen structures, stacked rocks I have I have

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video and I have photos of them them going up

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to like a twelve foot tall stump that the tree

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was cut off the top of it or broke off

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the top, and they rammed a stick right through the

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side of it. So imagine taking a stick that big

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around and shoving it through a three foot wide stump

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that still look fairly healthy to me, and it's sticking

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out both sides. I don't know anything that can do that.

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Wind can't do it, that's for sure. And then there

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were stack of rocks on top of it, and then

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lots of little stacks of rocks across the trail from

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it on the uphill side, like like twenty or thirty

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of them. You know, I don't know if kids were

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playing or what. But is the strangest thing because it's

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way up this hill. Hey, there's now you're not going

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to hike into it. Most people wouldn't want to hike there.

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It's just just too far to go. But so anyways,

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let me get back to my chronological order on what happened.

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So after the twenty nineteen odyssey, I call it first odyssey,

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we went back and I decided I'm going to try

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and get a picture of one if I can. You know,

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but I knew that my phone camera, you know, pulling

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it up, because they they put so much fear into

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you or you're just your natural instinct is to fear

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these giants when you see them. That it's hard to

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think in the moment and you know, set your camera

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up and zoom in and do all that. So what

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I did is I built a mount on my hat.

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So I put a mount on my hat and I

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carry a GoPro on this, and when you're wearing your hat,

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your head actually keeps a nice balanced axis, so it's

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not real bouncy, and the GoPro has built into it

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has the ability to balance out the picture so it's

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not all jittery. So I thought, this is gonna be great.

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I'll just wear that and I'll just keep replacing batteries

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as I go up and down the trail, and if

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I see anything or I don't, I still have video

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of the trail ride. Plus it's fun to wear with

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the horse. I can take the hat and spin it

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backwards and you can see the horse come up behind

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me if I'm out front, or you can see me

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following the horse as we go up trails, and we

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wear it just to see the movement and the horse

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in case they have an injury. We're watching if the

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injuries healed, how they're moving, all that, So it works

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for that as well, and that's that's the main reason

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why I wear it. Anyway, I was wearing that in

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twenty nineteen, we decided to go back. Let's go back

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to Scucum Ridge, So we go back up Lolo Pass

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to Mount Hood and we have this camp site you know,

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we carry corral so we can set up anywhere. But

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so we're all set up and h and we said, well, let's, uh,

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let's go do a twilight ride up the hill real

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quick and and have some fun. You know, I'm gonna

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What I wanted to do was I wanted to make

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a video of what happened the year before. I wanted

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to show, Okay, this is the meadow where we had

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the where we both saw the thing standing, and you know,

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this is what the forest looks like, the trail looks like,

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you know, the rivers that we crossed all that. So

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we're we're heading out. This meadow is you know, within

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a mile a camp or so. And uh so we

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we head head down the trails and we're we're about

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I don't know, a thousand feet before you get the

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meadow is on the right hand side of the trail,

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and got a bunch of you know river off the left,

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and we're about a thousand feet from it. And I

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decide I'm going to stop because I'm pretty far ahead

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of the horse I was. I was going at a

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pretty fast speed on my on my e bike. I

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got a fat tire bike with a one horse motor

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on it. Anyways, I was pretty far out in front

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of the horse, so I was letting it catch up,

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and I leaned against a tree and I saw a

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branch on the ground. I took the branch and I

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hit the tree and made a really loud knock, and

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h not five seconds later, there's a whoop comes back

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from the meadow and that's where the year previous we

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had seen one. And I was like, oh, wow, hey

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something here, you know. I told my girlfriend. She comes

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up and said, hey, I heard a whoop in the meadow.

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I mean, we're we might might get some action up here,

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you know, And and she's like, okay, sure, you know,

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happy birthday. So ex it's my birthday weekend. So anyway,

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we go. We go up the trail and get get

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closer to the meadow and I see a silhouette standing

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on the far side of the meadow and it is big.

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I mean it's really big, like like nine ten feet tall. Big,

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looks like a guy in a hoodie, you know, no neck,

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pointed head, jet black. I just jet black and couldn't

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make out any features. The thing was just too too

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black and too dark. I just couldn't quite see it,

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and it's about twilight eash, so not there's no sun

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on the front of it. The sun's behind it, you know,

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just like just like the last year. And but we

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figure we probably have about an hour before it's completely black.

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And we brought flashlights and lights this time for her

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helmet and for my bike and everything. So we're looking

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at it and it's just kind of standing there. It's

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in a slightly different place than the one we saw previous.

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It's about it's about fifty yards towards Mount Hood from

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where it was the year before, and it's standing behind

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a tree, which later I went back and the tree

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came up to its chest. Later I went back and

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the trees like like easy six foot tall. So anyways,

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I went back a couple of days later and looked

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for tracks. But so anyways, we continued decided, hey, should

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we continue up the trail. Probably shouldn't have, but did anyways,

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So so we continued up the trail and we did

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the three river crossing, and you know, it's just dead quiet.

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I mean, no squirrels, no birds, and there's a ton

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of birds in there, just nothing across the trail. And

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I'm thinking, well, it's gonna get noisy on this side

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because you know the things over there and now just

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just just as quiet on that side as it was

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the other. So we start going up the trail. We're

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hearing noises paralleling us through the trees. You can hear

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them kind of over once we'll hear a tree branch

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break or something, and it's moving at the speed we're moving.

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And you know, deer run from us. They don't the deer,

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an elk don't run towards the horse. They run away

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from it. A bear. We've come across female bears with

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cubs and they run from the horse to you know,

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unless you're like stomping a cub, they're gonna leave it.

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They just get away from the horse. So we're thinking, okay,

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well it's probably probably not a bear. Probably not you know,

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elk run, deer run, So there's really nothing that would

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be crashing along beside us on both sides of the

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trail as we go up. So we get up, We

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get up to the top, and on the way up,

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the horse the horse keeps looking off to its left,

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and so we know we know something's on the left.

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We get up to the top and there's some really

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strange uh structures up on top a bunch of logs

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interlaced just kind of weird, like like if the wind

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blew them they I don't know, it'd be tough for

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the wind to make these things, but you know, could have,

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I guess. So we decide, we decided we're gonna we're

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gonna turn around, because eventually we came to a log

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that was crossing the path and I had to lift

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my bike over it. It was it was about two

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feet around, roots are pushed up, probably wind blown, but

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it's crossing the path and we're way up there. We're

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like six miles up. So so there's two landings on

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the way up this ridge where it goes from you know,

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forty five to fairly flat, and then it goes back

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to forty five. So you really don't have places to

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stop that you're not on a hill going up up,

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you know, this seven mile ridge. So we get up

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to the top and there's a log across. We just say, well,

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let's let's turn around, you know, yeah, with that thing

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down there, let's let's It started to get a little darker,

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and we really don't want to be caught in the

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dark with that thing out there, and uh, you know

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with the forest guy hanging out out there, and let's

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go down and see if he's still there where he's at.

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And so we turn around and we're we head down

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the hill and uh, and my brakes are just getting

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hot as hell. Man. I I had two smaller brakes

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and they're like glowing red, and I got a water bottle.

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I put it on and it's like steam just runs

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off and it's in the video. You can see one

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of my videos. It shows this run and while I'm

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sitting there cooling it off. One time, so I get

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off the bike and I pour water on it. And

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then you know, the horse is no problem, just gonna

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saw on the hill. But I'm alone about a thousand

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feet above her. And she stopped at the first landing

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on the way down, and you know, it's kind of

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open there because it's an old cat trail, but you know,

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logging trail. So so I'm I'm pouring water on on

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my brakes and in the video you can see rocks

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flying by my head and they're these little pea sized

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rocks and they're and they're they're they're flying by my head.

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But I'm I'm focused on, get these breaks cold so

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I can use them again. You know, I still had

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you know, six more miles a trail that was like

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a half mile and they're glowing red, and I'm just like,

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I'm so screwed. I didn't bring enough water to keep

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my brakes cold, which now I carry a lot more

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water when I you know, if I go up hills

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like that. But anyways, so I go down and get

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to this landing and I'm talking with her, and there's

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rocks being thrown at us while we're while we're in

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talking real quick, the horse munched on a little bit

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of grass and we turn and we and we go

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off down the hill. So we get we get down

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to the bottom, and it's it's just dead quiet the

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whole ride. Get down to the bottom and uh and

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cross the three rivers and get back to this meadow

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and it's still standing there, or or it went back

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to standing there. You know, I don't know if it

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what it did while we were gone, but but it's

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it's a little bit further towards Mount Hood. It's like

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another twenty or thirty yards towards Mount Hood, standing behind

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some different trees, and you know, same looked like the

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same one, you know, nine ten foot tall, you know,

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four or five feet in the shoulders just you know,

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all I could see was from the chest up. But

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big round shoulders, arms, you know, definitely a giant And

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and I have it on video and I'm pointing at it,

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you know. And and the crazy thing about GoPros is

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that they're not really made to for any kind of

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distance filming. And that thing's filming in like four K

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or whatever, it doesn't matter. Digital so blocky, and you know,

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it looks like a blob squatch and I'm thinking, oh, man,

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I got I got you know, Patterson Gimlin footage. Nah,

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I got a black blobby squatchy thing, you know, up

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in the corner. And I'm like, man, I risked my

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life for the Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I don't know

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how smart this this hobby is. So so anyways, what

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happens later is where it gets kind of scary. So

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so we get back to camp and now it's it's

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you know, it's a little bit before dark, it's not

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quite pitch black, and and we get back to camp

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and across the road a little ways up, there's uh,

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some some people in there that when we got there,

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they had a couple of horses. They had to crawl up.

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They had a couple of horses in it. But when

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we got back from our ride, there's like six or

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eight cars there and they're just cranking music, i mean,

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just blasting it. And it's so loud that we instead

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of having our table right by our camper, we moved

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it down the hill away from the camper, just just

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to get the camper more between us and and kind

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of block out the sound because they were just cranking

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their stereo, you know, which which is fine. We're out

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in the woods. It's you know, nine o'clock at you know,

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nine thirty, ten o'clock at night. I'm all right. As

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long as it doesn't go past midnight, I'm okay with it.

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But so anyways, we move our our our all of

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our cooking gear and everything down below, and there's a

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there's an old fire pit there, so we got that

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going and we're set up our table and we're cooking

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and stuff. So we're sitting there. You know, of course

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we can't listen to our music because you can't hear it.

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It's too there's just so loud. But start to notice

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some screaming and it's it's it's so our campers here,

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their parties over here were the screamings in the woods

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down by this creek, downhill from us and off to

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one side. So and I'd say, it's like, I don't know,

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a couple hundred yards is what it sounds like. It's

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away from us, but I can hear it, and it

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doesn't stop. It just keeps going, and it's going for

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I don't know. It had gone for about ten minutes,

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and we're sitting there eating our dinner and listening. You know,

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do you hear that? Yeah, yeah, I hear that. And

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what it sounds like is a deaf mute screaming like

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trying to speak, you know, but it sounds like a

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deaf mute. And I'll imitate the noise. I won't do

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it justice because it was, you know, really loud, and

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I won't be able to quite hit the you know,

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it had a little bit of base to it, which

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I can't do. But it sounded like this. It was

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going of, you know, like get off my lawn, shut

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down your music, you know whatever. But couldn't understand a

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single word, but it was doing that over and over.

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It just NonStop. Well, it's pitch black, and I can

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tell it's starting to come up to the road that's

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that we're parked next to. It's coming up up by

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the road, but about about one hundred yards down, and

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so I decide, I'm I'm I'm gonna walk out to it.

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It's so dark that, you know, camera doesn't work or anything,

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but I'm decided I'm just going to walk out to

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it and and and see what this is. See if

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it's a bear, see if it's a you know, a wolf.

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It's something big, and it's coming towards towards camp. And

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so I have a flashlight with me that I just bought,

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and it's it's like, you know, a thousand candles. I'm

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leaving it off though, and I got my forty five

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with holow points. In case it is a bear and

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it tries to attack me, I could shoot a couple

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into the ground. It usually, you know, if you pop

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one off in the ground, they'll run typically. So I'm

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walking towards this thing. My girlfriends, are you sure, I'm yeah,

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I just want to check it out. So I walk

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and I'm walking towards it, and I'm used to seeing

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bears and cougars and stuff. We have them on our property.

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I run them off all the time. So anyways, I

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go walking towards this thing, and it's pitch black. Well,

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it's walking towards me. I can hear it still yelling.

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It doesn't stop. It's just going and going and going,

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and it's walking towards me, and I'm going towards it. Well,

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finally I get I get about one hundred yards down

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the road, and it's off to the right, and where

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our campguns off to the right where we're set up,

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keeps walking towards me, and I could hear it in

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the brush now, I can hear it break of branches

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and stuff. And I'm far enough away from the music

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that that this thing's definitely a lot louder than the

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music is. And and I'm down there, and I'm thinking, okay, well,

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I'm gonna have a gotcha moment here in a second.

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And and and what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna

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go ahead and wait till I know it's cleared. These

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small trees that are about I don't know, they're about

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one hundred feet back off the road. I'm gonna I'm

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gonna wait till I think it's clear to the trees

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that I'm gonna put the flashlight on it real quick,

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you know, and just kind of kind of see what

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it is, see what this thing is once overall, because

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it's coming down me, it's coming towards me. And so

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I'm waiting and I'm waiting and I'm waiting, and oh man,

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same seem like forever is probably like just a minute

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or two. And I'm like, you know, I think it.

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Should I do it? Now? Should I do it? Now?

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You know, it's probably cleared those trees, because it's really

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close and I could hear it stomping and breaking branches

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and crep and and I'm thinking, oh, it's got to

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be out in front of those trees eighty second, any second.

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And then I waited a few more seconds past when

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I thought it would be out, and then I turned

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the light on it. And I turned the light on

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and nothing, there's nothing. I don't see a thing. It's

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still back in the trees a little bit, but it's

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so big and so loud. It just and it stopped

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screaming right right when I did that. So I'm thinking, okay,

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and you know, I got my flashlight up, and you know,

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I got my forty five in my pocket, my hands

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on my butt, you know, in case something tries to

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charge me, and nothing, just just nothing. So I decide

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after a minute or two, it just stayed quiet. And

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after a minute or two, I decide, well, I'm I'm

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gonna walk back to my camp site. So I turn

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and I just leave the light on. I mean, I'm

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you know, whatever it is knows i'm there, and the

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light might scare off a bear or whatever cougar. So

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so I'm walking back towards camp and it starts up again,

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just yelling again, and I'm like, oh crap. And it's

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off to my left because I'm I'm I'm heading back

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to camp, which is you know, facing camp. My gets

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on my left and my camp's on the left, and

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and it's parallel on me as I walk. As I'm walking,

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and there's just really thick trees in there, and and

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the trees come right up to the road, which I'm thinking, great, now,

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the trees are right next to me. So and these

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aren't small trees that are next to the road. They're

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they're a hundred foot tall if they're afoot. But a

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lot of old growth in their two So some trees

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are way bigger than that. But but now now it

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has the opportunity if it wants to, it could rush me,

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and I'm I wouldn't know it. It was right on me.

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So I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, you know, this was

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probably a dumb idea. I probably shouldn't have done that.

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You know. All the way back, I'm just thinking, I

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shouldn't have done that. That was bad. I was I

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don't know what I was thinking. And I'm walking back

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and and the whole time it's parallel me that, you know,

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a hundred yards all the way back to camp, and

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it's probably one hundred feet in I would say maybe,

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which means it's probably two hundred feet in because I'm

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you know, I had bad estimates with with it. And

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it's still it's still yelling, you know, ye you know

453
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:46.839
some language. I don't know what it was, but and

454
00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:48.920
I could tell it with sentences, and I could tell

455
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.000
it was different words it was using. It wasn't saying

456
00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:55.000
the same thing over and over and over. It was.

457
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.559
It was yelling a whole bunch of different things at me.

458
00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:03.440
So I walked back down the road to camp and

459
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.160
we're part just off to the side of the road,

460
00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:10.160
and and and and our horses are their corrals, probably

461
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.039
seventy five feet away from the truck downhill. It's a

462
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:19.480
nice flat spot where we had them. And I have

463
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:23.279
I have motion sensor cameras set up. Now. I got

464
00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:28.759
traps set up around the corral after, you know, seeing

465
00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:31.680
all these different bigfoot shows, and I see that those

466
00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:35.160
can keep the bigfoot away the IR cameras, so I

467
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:37.319
put those up just to keep the horses safe if

468
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:38.880
they do come in. If they're dumb enough to come

469
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:40.599
in and get caught on an IR, so be it.

470
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:44.319
But at least at least I'm trying to keep the

471
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.400
horses safe. So so anyways, I get back to camp

472
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.119
and you can hear it parallel me. You can hear

473
00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:51.240
now it's just down from camp. It's down on the

474
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.119
other side of the horses. And my girlfriend's going, great,

475
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:58.079
you brought it back to camp. I said, well, it

476
00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:03.000
was hungry, and you know, by so anyways, we're like, well,

477
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:08.279
you know, boy, good late, maybe maybe suld go inside. Yeah,

478
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:11.720
got this thing riled up enough. And but we're sitting

479
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:13.519
there while we're thinking about what do we do next

480
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:16.160
it started moving again. So it was down past our

481
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.359
horses and it started walking down. So at this campground,

482
00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:21.359
it's got water. Some people would call them creeks, but

483
00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:25.559
they're way too big for a creek. So anyways, so

484
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:29.720
it's walking down around. I can hear it moving off

485
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:31.720
a little bit into the creek area, and it's breaking

486
00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:34.720
limbs and yelling and d D and the neighbors music

487
00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:36.599
is so loud. They don't even know this is all

488
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:39.359
going on, but I hear it. And finally, finally the

489
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:41.799
music's louder than it's yelling is and you could hear

490
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:43.240
it walked around the end of the camp and it

491
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:44.960
was coming back up the other side, and then the

492
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:49.200
music's so loud I can't hear it anymore. So so anyways,

493
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:54.599
that was That was twenty twenty at that campground. Nothing,

494
00:26:54.799 --> 00:27:00.839
nothing else really happened, just you know, just that just

495
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:03.039
my night walk where I was a little bit, a

496
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:05.880
little bit terrified. I'm trying to get past the the

497
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.000
the anxiety of being around him so that I can

498
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:13.480
get I just you know, I'm just trying to get

499
00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:17.000
some film of him is my goal, you know, And

500
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:19.279
trying to get past the anxiety, and I thought, well,

501
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:24.400
you know, keep trying so anyway, because the anxiety is

502
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:29.319
still there. So let's go to twenty twenty one. So

503
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.920
in twenty twenty one, a lot of a lot of

504
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:38.960
cool things started to happen. I had. I started meeting

505
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:42.640
friends in the bigfoot world, got to know Joe Beelert

506
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:45.799
quite a bit better, got to know Tom Powell a

507
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.960
little bit. And they have a friend named John. I'm

508
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.559
not going to say his last name. He doesn't doesn't

509
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:55.079
really care to be known. But John's amazing. John's if

510
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:59.000
anybody's a bigfooter, it's John. He goes up up above Malala,

511
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.640
like almost every weekend during the summer's he's up there

512
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:05.640
a lot. He's the one that heard. He's the one

513
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:08.440
that had one walk up the trail between him and

514
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:11.240
Joe b Lart and Joe was sleeping, and the thing

515
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:13.880
talk to him as it went by, you know, using

516
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.759
full sentences, said that he said, the most beautiful woman's

517
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.440
voice he's ever heard. Couldn't understand the word, but it

518
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:22.400
was talking to him as it went by, and he

519
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.920
talked back, and they would each pause and let the

520
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:27.599
other one talk as it was moving. It was it's

521
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:30.640
pretty pretty cool thing really in the scheme of things. Anyways,

522
00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:34.319
that's John. So anyways, those three invited him up in

523
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:37.000
twenty twenty one and after the screaming and yelling, they

524
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.440
wanted to come up and see, well, where's all this action,

525
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:42.160
you know, what's going on? You know. So I was like, well,

526
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:44.920
it's where we take the ponies pretty much anywhere we

527
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:48.319
go before we get to to scook him Ridge again

528
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.359
though in twenty twenty one, I wanted to touch on

529
00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:57.079
on stub Stewart. So stub Stewart is this horse park.

530
00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:00.640
It's a it's actually a park with cabins and big

531
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:06.880
bicycle Mecca. There's a trail that goes from Banks to Vernonia.

532
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:09.119
It's called the Bank's Vernonia Trail and it's a concrete

533
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.839
trail that the Forest Service is paved in that's kind

534
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:13.880
of next to the road in some places. It follows

535
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:17.799
old railroad tracks and things and parallels them, but it goes,

536
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.839
you know, I don't know, twenty thirty miles track of

537
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.039
and on that track there's a park that was donated.

538
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:29.960
The land was donated and they put a forest park

539
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:34.480
in there and it has a really cool store and everything,

540
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.160
and then like twenty or thirty cabins you can rent.

541
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.400
And then it has a parking for campers, probably two

542
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:44.920
hundred place, one to two hundred places that all these

543
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.119
bicyclists come in and they'll spend you know, hot summer

544
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.599
nights there and camp out and ride their bikes all around.

545
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:53.799
Well above that is a horse camp and it's called

546
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:57.440
stub Stuart Horse Camp. We've been going there for years.

547
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:00.200
I had gone in there, and I don't know if

548
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:04.799
I mentioned it in the last last episode, but I

549
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:06.839
rode my hardy end there one day when my girl

550
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:11.759
was riding her horse with her friend and I parked.

551
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.160
I parked by some restrooms just down below. The road

552
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.119
ends up at the horse camp. It basically ends up

553
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:20.480
there and you have and there's a giant parking lot.

554
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:22.960
You can turn around and go back. Well above the

555
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:27.000
parking lot is the horse campground and it has parking

556
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:29.759
for like I don't know, twenty horses. Really nice place,

557
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:36.079
has electricity, water, it's pretty improved, beautiful, beautiful campground. But anyways,

558
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:39.599
I rode in there and it's about it was about

559
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:42.359
noon or so on a Saturday, and I want to

560
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:46.240
say probably in June of twenty one, and I rode

561
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:49.519
in there on my v rod and got off my

562
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:51.519
bike and walked over to where my girlfriend and her

563
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.160
friend were pulling their horses out of our trailer, and

564
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:55.960
we brought our campers so we all had lunch together.

565
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.400
And anyways, they're they're getting saddled up and ready to

566
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.319
go out down this trail and start their ride because

567
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.759
there's tons of horse trails through there. Really good place

568
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:09.640
to practice horses if you don't mind seeing bicyclists everywhere,

569
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:13.200
because they're all over mountain bike and and stuff. But

570
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.599
I was. I walked back to my bike and my

571
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.640
helmet was on my bike, so I'm not wearing my helmet.

572
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.920
I just have my leather jacket on. And anyways, I

573
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.000
walk over to the restroom which is on the opposite

574
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:33.200
side away from our camper, and it's the restroom is probably,

575
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:34.880
i don't know, one hundred feet away from my bike.

576
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.799
It's a it's a big, big parking lots. Anyway, so

577
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:43.839
I'm walking back to my bike and a rock bounces

578
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:48.079
and hits my shoe and it wasn't a big rock,

579
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:53.440
just a little little rock, and I'm thinking, well, then

580
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.880
another one comes and lands just below my feet. And

581
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:59.599
I'm walking along. I'm walking along the slope where it's

582
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:05.000
a big ridge that drops down, drops down about one

583
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.440
hundred feet and then then it's old growth trees in there,

584
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:11.240
just thick thick, thick, thick forest and oak trees here

585
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:15.759
and there. And uh, anyways, another rock comes, and then

586
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:18.000
another rock, and for like five minutes, rocks are coming,

587
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:21.000
and I'm just standing there, going, what where's this coming from?

588
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:22.880
Looking down the ridge, and I see the rocks come

589
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:26.519
up through this oak tree and then uphill and then

590
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:30.319
land like five feet directly below me. And so I

591
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.240
started to move over a little bit, and they throw

592
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:35.200
them right right next to my feet, just a little

593
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:39.200
bit over. I just don't see a human being able

594
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:42.400
to do that. So so I picked up a rock

595
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.079
and I tried to throw it back. And I could

596
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.799
barely reach the base of those trees that are one

597
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:50.400
hundred feet down. The hell, I could barely hit the

598
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.359
base of those let alone, you know, hit the top

599
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.039
of the tree that the thing's throwing a rock up

600
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.519
through to get to me. You know, that's another you know,

601
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.720
hundred feet plus up. So so anyways, they were throwing

602
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:07.279
rocks at me for about ten minutes, and then finally

603
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.599
I was just like, ah, well, you know, I'm not

604
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:11.599
walking down there. I don't want to get hit by

605
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:16.200
a rock. And and my girlfriend they finally got all

606
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.079
saddled up and they're heading down the trail next to

607
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.319
where that area is, headed down into that and I

608
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.240
told her be careful, something's throwing rocks down there, and

609
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:26.119
she's like, we'll be fine. So I mean, bravest girl

610
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:28.839
I ever met. So anyway, she off, she goes. They

611
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:30.640
never had any incidents, and that was pretty much the

612
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:32.799
end of that. But one more thing happened at Stub

613
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.640
Stewart like like two months later, and I want to

614
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.359
touch on this then I'll go back to Scuokam Bridge.

615
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.200
So we're having activity at all these horse camps. I mean,

616
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.000
these things are you swing a cat man? These things

617
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:47.440
are all over the forest through here. So so anyways,

618
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:52.880
we go back to Stub a couple months later and

619
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.680
I ask, I asked the ranger that I know that

620
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.759
at the time we were friends. My girl road with

621
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:06.640
the guy's wife that runs he's the head a ranger

622
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.679
for that four step Steward at the time. Now he's

623
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:12.559
moved on to another area. But so I knew him

624
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:14.400
pretty well and some of his rangers, you know, I

625
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.239
talk with them now. And then well, one came through

626
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:20.880
camp and uh, and we're there for the weekend practicing riding,

627
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:25.639
and I asked him, Hey, any bigfoot activity up here,

628
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.679
and I was just, you know, I expect him to

629
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.639
say no, because they almost always do. And he goes, yeah,

630
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:33.039
he goes. Last weekend a guy spotted one. There's about

631
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:35.360
ten foot tall. He said. It was right at the

632
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:37.920
bank's Vernonia trail where it branches off to go down

633
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:41.719
down this lollipop loop. And that's what they call this loop.

634
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:45.199
The it's a horse trail that goes down and it

635
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.360
circles around and then it comes back in on itself

636
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:50.000
and up the hill, shaped like a lollipop. It's about

637
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.360
a four mile ride down there. We go down it

638
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:57.679
all the time. So I was like, cool, did he

639
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.840
describe it? He goes, yeah, just black jet black, ten

640
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.320
foot tall. Just after twilight is just getting dark, and

641
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.639
it was standing up on top of where the road split.

642
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:10.679
There's a kind of a ridge between him. I was

643
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.320
standing on top of the ridge watching him go by.

644
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:15.960
He said he peed himself and then turned around and

645
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.559
came back and ran went straight to the ranger's office

646
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:22.159
to report it, and he said, yeah, the guy was soiled,

647
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:26.280
so he saw something or something. So anyways, a kind

648
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:32.440
of a sideline. But the next day we rode the Lollipop.

649
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.840
And to get to the Lollipop you drop down quite

650
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:39.800
a bit down these ridges. It's about a probably a

651
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:41.800
mile of trail that's like zagging through. We call it

652
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:43.760
the Black Force because it's so dark in there. And

653
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:45.559
then you drop down some other trails and it comes

654
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:50.559
out on the banks for Nonia Trail. So we dropped

655
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.559
down to the trail and then we're we dropped down

656
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:56.840
to where Lollipop is go off off that Lollipop has

657
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.320
has a little bit of incline four ways, and it's

658
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:06.119
just a steep drop and you better have excellent brakes

659
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.360
and you better have a strong bike to even go

660
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:11.480
that trail. Most mountain bikers won't do it. It's just

661
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:16.119
too steep and it's just not fun getting that much exercise,

662
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:19.320
so and they'll walk their bikes up. It's just too steep.

663
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:21.280
So we go out there, and you know, horse can

664
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.559
do it, no problem. So we go out there, and

665
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:27.679
I'm out in front of two horses, and I'm out

666
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:31.440
a couple hundred feet, and then I stretch the distance

667
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.360
further and further because my bike actually has just a

668
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:36.159
ton of power and I got big batteries and it

669
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.199
just goes. So I'm about a thousand feet out in

670
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:39.679
front of them, and I hear something in the tree

671
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:42.480
is parallel on me, and it was it had to

672
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:44.360
be within fifty feet of me. But the brush is

673
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.280
so thick in there you can't see ten feet in

674
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:53.360
and it's just all these alders and aspens and just

675
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:57.079
really leafy small trees and something's just crashing through them.

676
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.480
And every time I stop, it stops, and then I go,

677
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:01.679
and then it goes. And then I stop and it stops,

678
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:04.000
and then I go and then it goes. It's like, okay,

679
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.480
I know that, I know this, I know what this is.

680
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.320
And finally the horses come up on me because I

681
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.760
just stopped and I'm drinking water, and finally the horses

682
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.599
come up on me, and uh, no more noise. That

683
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.400
was the end of that. That it just stopped right there.

684
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:18.440
I just wanted to bring those two up because it's

685
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.280
it's not that I'm just going to one spot and

686
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.920
seeing stuff. We're having stuff happen everywhere. Like I said,

687
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.480
swinging a cat, I mean, they're they're everywhere. So let's

688
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:31.239
go back to twenty twenty one at skukumb Ridge. That's

689
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:35.559
up by Mount Hood. There's around Mount Hood. There's multiple

690
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:38.320
horse parks, you know, on the east side, west side.

691
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.079
They're all over the place. There's there's some both sides

692
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:49.599
of the highway, you know, up up up past up

693
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:54.199
past Timberline Lodge, and there's a couple out both sides

694
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:55.760
of the road and stuff. So I mean, they're they're

695
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:57.639
all over and it doesn't matter which one you go to.

696
00:37:57.639 --> 00:37:59.440
I'm pretty sure the same things are going to happen

697
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:01.960
to you if you go out there or if you're

698
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.719
paying attention anyways. So I guess i'll touch on that

699
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.840
real quick before I move on to the siding. But

700
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.760
something that I noticed and I've noticed some other people

701
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:14.760
have that once you have a sighting, it kind of

702
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.559
makes you hyper aware of what's going on around you.

703
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:21.800
You're paying more attention. You're not. It's not the same

704
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.599
world that it used to be. I'm like hyper alert

705
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:28.599
anything that goes on. I'm listening for you know, tree

706
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.039
branches breaking. I'm watching the horses ears. I mean, I'm

707
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:34.639
I don't want to call it paranoid, but I'm I'm listening. Man,

708
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.039
I hear things, you know, And I don't want to

709
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.920
make anything up. And you know, I'm not trying to

710
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.079
fabricate anything. I'm just I'm just like, Okay, what's this?

711
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:49.440
What's that? And I notice, you know, footprints or or

712
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:51.719
you know that are odd, or or tree branches that

713
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.960
are all twisted up or or you know, stuck through trees.

714
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.159
You know, just weird, weird stuff. I just I kind

715
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.199
of keep an eye out for stack rocks all that. So,

716
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:03.119
so anyways, that brings us to twenty twenty one. We're

717
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:05.440
back at scook and Ridge. I brought Joe b Lar,

718
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:08.440
I brought to Tom Palell. I want to show him,

719
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:14.360
hey man, there's stuff up here. And so we decide

720
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.400
I built a second e bike. I built a small one.

721
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.000
I call it Mini Me because it's quite a bit

722
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:26.000
smaller than my big four four inch tire fat tire bike.

723
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:33.840
And and I let Tom ride it. And so we

724
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.960
went out and back really really not a whole lot

725
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:41.840
of activity. Had had some fun doing it though. So

726
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:44.079
then we go back up the same trail and this

727
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:47.440
time no birds and I'm with the horse. No birds, no,

728
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:52.559
And before we're riding the bikes, birds, chipmunks, stuff everywhere.

729
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:59.920
We go back out to the meadow and just whisper quiet,

730
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:04.639
nothing there, just quiet. You drop down from the meadow

731
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.679
and there's a ton of skunk cabbage and these little

732
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:11.800
ponds right before you hit the first river and just

733
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:13.840
super quiet in there. And usually there's a ton of

734
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:20.000
birds in there, so so nothing. And started hearing stuff

735
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.880
parallel us in the trees. And and so we're going

736
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:26.239
up the hill. We cross the rivers, there's three of them,

737
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:28.480
we cross them, we get we're going up this hill

738
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:33.199
we call it the backside of scook them and headed

739
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.199
up the ridge and again hear a movement above us

740
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:40.599
and below us, but not really not seeing anything, just

741
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.840
just hearing it. And one thing that we notice is

742
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:47.679
up on the trail, and I have this on video,

743
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.400
is that there's these stumps that are about I don't know.

744
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.559
Some of them are three feet around that are cut

745
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.920
off at at at about two feet tall. Some of

746
00:40:57.960 --> 00:40:59.679
them are cut off. One of them's cut off at

747
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:01.960
like seven or eight foot tall, and you can see

748
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:06.679
it was a chainsaw, you know, cut it. But for

749
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:11.679
the first and this is about about a thousand feet

750
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:13.920
maybe two thousand feet up off the trail seven miles

751
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:15.800
to the peak. But it's the first couple thousand feet

752
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.880
as you come off the flats where the rivers are

753
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.559
at and you start going up this hill the trail,

754
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.119
and so these stumps are on the right hand side

755
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:25.960
of the trail, so they're on the cliff side, the

756
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:29.280
drop off side, and like if you took one step,

757
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.440
you'd go down one hundred feet before you even slowed down.

758
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.719
It's steep in there, and these stumps are kind of

759
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.559
holding the trail together. Their root system probably helps hold

760
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:41.159
that hill side together so the trail stays in place.

761
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:44.239
So I'm guessing that's probably why they left the stumps there,

762
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.599
you know, when they made the trail. So anyways, as

763
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.159
we're going up, we notice, we know, there's tree libs

764
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.400
about about four or five inches around, and they're shoved

765
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:59.199
right into these stumps, right dead center of them pretty much.

766
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.559
And I walked over and I tried to pry it out.

767
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:04.599
I couldn't even move it. I mean, it was stuck

768
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.599
in so hard, you know, so it didn't fall in

769
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.239
a windstorm. Because I have that on my property all

770
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:12.519
the time. We get big winds through and branches fall.

771
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:14.960
I you know, there's kind of slop you can pull

772
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:16.800
them right out. These you couldn't pull out. I mean

773
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:20.280
they're freaking in there. Whatever hydraul like those in there was,

774
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:22.639
I had to be massive, and I don't know the

775
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.199
four service would take the time, you know to do that.

776
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:28.000
But that's where these things were. But what was odd

777
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.239
is it wasn't just one. There were like four stumps

778
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.360
in a row. As you go, you know, thousand feet

779
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:34.880
up this trail, every one hundred feet one hundred and

780
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.000
fifty feet there's another stump and there's another branch shoved

781
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:40.159
in it. And then one of the stumps was like

782
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:41.880
like seven eight foot tall, and I have it on

783
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:44.280
video and I have it on I have photos. It's

784
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:46.559
about eight foot tall, and there's one shoved into the

785
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:50.519
top of that too at eight feet tall, and the

786
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:54.320
branch is like another ten feet tall that shoved into it.

787
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:56.719
And the branches that are in it are looked fairly

788
00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:59.599
fresh at the time, they were still wet. They weren't

789
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.000
you know, weren't brittled where I could just break them.

790
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:05.000
So anyways, we go up the trail and we're a

791
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.119
little creeped out because we see that, you know, something's

792
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:14.000
up here. So we we get up and uh, I

793
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:18.360
think at this point we did some calls at the

794
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:23.039
top of these ridges, and uh, I'm calling across these

795
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:29.360
canyons about about four mile five miles up from the bottom,

796
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.920
so we're we're at a pretty high elevation. It's about

797
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.880
a it's about a six thousand foot difference between the

798
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.280
floor of where a campground is in the top of

799
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.920
this this ridge. It's it's really steep ridge too, so

800
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:45.280
the trail just zigzag there's you know. Anyways, so we're

801
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.079
pretty high up at and I can see across to

802
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:50.119
this other canyon, you know, across the canyon to this

803
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.760
other ridge that's about is tall and it's in between

804
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:58.039
us and rhododendron and uh and mount hoods. You can

805
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:02.679
see it. You know, we're right there. And anyways, I

806
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.400
do some calls across the canyon, and people, you know,

807
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.599
they make fun of of, you know, finding bigfoot calls

808
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:10.760
and stuff, you know, where they do whoops or they

809
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.360
do you know whatever. And and uh, we we we

810
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:16.000
kind of made fun of it for a while. But

811
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.000
her and I, while we go up a trail, we

812
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.880
do this call. It's a crow call. We go cook cockaw,

813
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:25.639
you know, in some funny movie back when. But I've

814
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:29.639
moving forward. I now do a crow call. And and

815
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:31.480
so the horse knows I'm ahead of it. So if

816
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:34.519
it comes around a turn, it's not startled because something's there.

817
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.000
It heard me, so it knows I'm ahead of it.

818
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:38.760
So I'm doing the croke calls all the way up

819
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:41.760
this ridge. And and we get up to this opening

820
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.719
you can see across the canyon, and I do some

821
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:48.880
I do a couple of whoops, and uh, we're laughing

822
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:52.360
about it and stuff, and and you know, just having fun.

823
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.880
And and I'm wearing a bright green shirt and she's

824
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.320
wearing a you know, fluorescent yellow shirt. And I mean,

825
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:02.119
we're we're we're not sneaking up on nothing. We're not

826
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:06.119
even trying me why, you know, it doesn't make any sense.

827
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:10.199
So so anyways, we're having fun. She turns around, she

828
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:12.480
goes down the trail. She gets about five minutes down

829
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.920
the trail from me, and I'm I'm still making calls

830
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:19.840
up there, and then across the canyon, I hear what

831
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.599
sounds like a like a bunch of trees pushed over

832
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.960
at once. I mean just but it was crashing through

833
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.760
the trees, is what it was. And it was crashing

834
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.920
down the slope, you know. So it did about a

835
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:34.239
from where it started. I'd say it did about a

836
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:38.119
five thousand foot drops straight down the fricking hill. I

837
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:41.559
just came straight bee line right towards my calls, and

838
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:44.000
I'm up on this other ridge. So it comes down,

839
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.760
its ridge down, and it's starting to come up towards me,

840
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:48.880
and I'm like, oh crap, okay, I'm getting out of here.

841
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:52.360
So so I'm riding down the hill and putting, you know,

842
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:56.199
my brake fires out and and and we get down.

843
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:03.440
We get down to the bottom, and uh, and everybody's

844
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:07.840
there on the way down. Of course, we could hear

845
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.559
him paralleling through the trees again. They walk It's like

846
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:12.920
they walk us out. So we get to the river

847
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.679
and all that stops, and and uh, and so we go,

848
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:17.920
you know, we keep going back to camp, and it's

849
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:21.199
we get in there right about dark, and uh, everybody's

850
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:24.599
sitting around. They got a campfire going. Everybody's eating, and

851
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:27.760
you know, there's tents set up all around the campfire,

852
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:33.000
and and uh uh, Joe Beelert when he camps, he

853
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:35.920
that guy knows how to camp. I mean, he brings

854
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:39.679
in multiple camp stoves, and he's got this big countertop thing,

855
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:43.000
and the food is just amazing, and there's lots, I mean,

856
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.159
there's too much of it. You know, they're just giving

857
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:48.400
it out to everybody. And just everybody's somewhere all eating

858
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:51.800
and having a good time and and telling stories and stuff.

859
00:46:51.840 --> 00:47:00.320
And I had put out two microphones I have here.

860
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.880
I got a couple of these d R O seven's,

861
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.039
so I put these out for the night and they're

862
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:12.840
all charged up and all ready to go. About half

863
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:17.920
hour in batteries die for whatever reason, brand new batteries.

864
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:20.079
They just died out. So they were kind of useless

865
00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:21.840
that night, which I wish they would have stayed on

866
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.960
because of what happened next. So so anyways, everybody eats,

867
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:31.039
we call it a night. Tom Powell's actually an accomplished

868
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:34.280
singer and guitarist, and he's playing just kind of real

869
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.880
mellow acoustic music. And finally we all decide to go

870
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:42.679
to bed. So everybody, everybody takes off. So you know,

871
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.360
we told him everything that happened on the hillside, and

872
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:48.840
you know our past experiences and all that. So about

873
00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:53.159
two am, I wake up from a dead sleep because

874
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:56.440
I'm hearing pots and pans rattling around, like banging together,

875
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:59.920
like somebody's digging through getting more food. At two am,

876
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:02.960
and I'm thinking, well, I'm going to open the door

877
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:07.119
and say busted, you know, late night snacker. So so

878
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:11.280
I opened the door and there's nobody there. There's nothing.

879
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:15.400
I'm well, you know, I mean, I took a few

880
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.239
seconds to you know, to put my sweats on, but

881
00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:22.679
you know, I didn't have any lights on or anything,

882
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:24.400
as I was pitched black. But you could hear me

883
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:26.800
moving around probably in the camper if I opened the door,

884
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:30.440
and nothing. And our back door where kemper's maybe thirty

885
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:33.800
feet forty feet away from those tables, and there's a

886
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:35.960
lot of pots and pans on them, and dishes out

887
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:40.159
and all kinds of things. Just nothing. And the strangest

888
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.519
thing because in the morning and something else happened right

889
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:45.559
after that. But in the morning, I woke up before

890
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:47.199
anybody did, and I walked out there and the pots

891
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:51.559
and pans had not moved. They were exactly where they

892
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.480
were when we went to bed, and nothing was disturbed. Nothing,

893
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:56.119
you know, like a bear didn't come through and knock

894
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.199
something over to eat it. You know, nothing was disturbed,

895
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:03.119
which was the strangest thing I heard. Ron Moorehead said

896
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:05.840
that that happened to him at his camp. They would

897
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:08.119
it sound like they knocked everything over. But they went

898
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:10.920
back the next day and everything's perfect. But so always

899
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:14.760
that happened to us. But here's here's the scary part

900
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:17.880
of that night. At three am, about an hour after

901
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:21.400
I heard the pots and pans, my girlfriend had invited

902
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:23.360
a friend up just because she wanted a friend, you

903
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:26.840
know there so you have all these bigfooting guys, and

904
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:29.159
you know, a couple of them have wives, but she

905
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.679
wanted a friend up, so she brought her friend up

906
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:34.360
with her. And she was in a tent on the

907
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:38.800
other side of the campfire from us, probably about sixty

908
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:43.119
fifty sixty feet away from our camp, or facing towards

909
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:46.000
the camp. Her dowar face towards the campfire, but the

910
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:48.039
back of it kind of went towards this hillside that

911
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:51.119
goes down down towards the creeks where I'd heard the

912
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:57.360
you know, two years before. So I'm I'm you know,

913
00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:59.039
I tell her before she goes to sleep, you know,

914
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:03.639
just scream if you need something. So, uh, at three

915
00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:07.159
in the morning, she says she was laying there asleep

916
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.199
and then woke up to something pushing in on the

917
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:14.400
tent and smelling her hair. And she said that that

918
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:18.519
that it was really deep, deep deep a breast that

919
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:22.199
it was taking like just trying to get a good

920
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.760
whiff of her shampoo or something. And she said it

921
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:28.920
was just barely touching her head, pushing the the tent

922
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:33.519
into her head and and and smelling her hair. And

923
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:36.519
it did it. She said it did it for like

924
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:39.360
a minute or so, and she realized, you know, as

925
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.400
she wakes, she's waking up, She's like, oh crap, you

926
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:47.039
know what if it's a bear, And she screamed, and

927
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:50.440
she screamed at the top of her lungs. She said,

928
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:56.039
uh for about a minute and it it stopped doing it,

929
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:59.679
and it she heard it run off, and she said

930
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:03.079
when it ran off, it made a racket running through

931
00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:07.039
the trees and it was gone. The crazy thing is

932
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:12.039
we're sixty feet away and there's other campers, and nobody

933
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:18.480
heard her scream. I cannot explain it. I'm sixty feet

934
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:20.920
away and my windows are open on my camper because

935
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:24.239
it's summer, and I did not wake up to somebody screaming.

936
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:27.840
And she said she's never felt so alone in her life,

937
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:31.280
and that you know, she didn't know what to do.

938
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:34.480
She just laid awake the rest of the night, scared

939
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:38.360
half to death. And yeah, she won't sleep in a

940
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:42.239
tent out there anymore. She came two years later, she

941
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:44.559
came camping with us again and slept in her car,

942
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:49.400
and I put one of our game cameras, two of

943
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:53.280
them actually facing both ways around her car, just just

944
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:56.039
to keep her safe, because these things don't like game cams,

945
00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:58.239
they just don't. I'm good luck getting them on a

946
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.360
game pan. We'll use it to your advantage. If you

947
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.679
don't want them somewhere, just put them up, you know.

948
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:04.639
And that's what I did. I put them on trees

949
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:09.000
around her. So she felt safer and and nothing happened

950
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:15.719
to her that night. But again, so so now we know, okay,

951
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:20.360
they're coming into camp, and so when we go there,

952
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.719
we we kind of camp a little bit different than

953
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:26.000
before you know, we're trying to be aware of them

954
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:28.840
in the camp grounds instead of having my microphones you know,

955
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:32.119
one hundred yards out or fifty yards out with some

956
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:35.840
bait around it, you know, food or whatever. I keep

957
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.480
them all the way back at camp now, and I'm

958
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:40.960
not sure if they're if it kind of disguises them

959
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:43.559
because you know, there's so much electronics and other things

960
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:47.400
around camp. Anyways, but the batteries haven't gone dead since

961
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:52.360
I started keeping them closer to camp, using exact same batteries.

962
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:55.400
But so anyways, that was That was twenty twenty one,

963
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.239
and twenty twenty two we go back to scuok them Ridge,

964
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:03.199
so brought more research. We do it twilight ride up

965
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:08.280
on Friday, which we usually do, and uh, of course

966
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:11.519
got paralleled again going up. We didn't go as far

967
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:13.440
as we normally do because it was getting dark a

968
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:17.840
little quicker. We had a campfire till midnight that first night.

969
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:21.159
Joe b Lart, myself and this the new guy were there. Uh,

970
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:24.360
Tom didn't make it this trip, but we're sitting there

971
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:28.920
and we're we're eating ribs and and anyways, stayed up

972
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:37.000
untill till about midnight and Joe Joe. Joe has balls

973
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.960
the size of church bells. I've never met a braver

974
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:45.960
human being in my life. So he knows about everything

975
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:49.000
that's happened, and he's had tons of stuff happened to him,

976
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:52.199
and he is just fearless man. He's fearless. If anybody's

977
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:53.920
ever going to get torn apart by one of these things,

978
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.559
it's going to be Joe. So uh, because he just

979
00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:59.800
goes where nobody else will go. Uh. So we set

980
00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:02.320
up our camp. We're just down the road from from

981
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.519
where we were before. Somebody else was in that spot.

982
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:06.360
So we set up camp down the road a little

983
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:09.800
ways and uh, it's facing right towards Skukum Ridge. You

984
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:12.920
can see it right from camp. The rivers are between

985
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:16.159
us down this hill. We set up. We have a

986
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:20.239
corral it's about one hundred feet down from camp and

987
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.480
picnic table between, you know, just off of our camper.

988
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:27.000
And it's before we got our big horse trailer, so

989
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.920
we still had our camper then, and we're all we're

990
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:34.639
all set up, great food, great company, everything's going fine.

991
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:37.480
So we go up the hill, come back. Nothing. No,

992
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.639
no real incidents happened. Didn't really see anything, heard heard

993
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:42.960
a lot heard them crashed it through the trees and stuff,

994
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:46.559
but didn't really see anything. The sticks were still jammed

995
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:48.440
in the logs. I have that on video. They're still

996
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:53.079
in those stumps going up the hill, and you know,

997
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.239
lots of there. I guess there are a few new

998
00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:58.159
tree structures kind of further up the hill. But it

999
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:00.320
was getting dark, so we came back a little quicker

1000
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:02.360
than we normally do. We didn't go up you know,

1001
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:04.840
five or six miles. I think we only went up

1002
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:11.559
like four. So we do here once in a while.

1003
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:14.199
In almost every year, we hear at least one whoop

1004
00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:16.079
when we hit the first of the three rivers coming

1005
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.159
back towards the camp because we have to cross all three,

1006
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:21.760
so I have to wade and water you know sometimes

1007
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:26.360
you know, almost up to my chest. But anyways, so

1008
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:31.639
we get back to camp, have the campfire. It's and

1009
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.119
and Joe went to bed about eleven o'clock. And the

1010
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:39.000
reason why I say Joe's got you know, big waves,

1011
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.280
is because he said, is caught on the far side

1012
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:44.639
of the horse corral, down the hill and on the

1013
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:47.039
other side of a bunch of trees, Like I can't

1014
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:50.400
even see Joe. He's so far away from the camp site.

1015
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:53.840
Well that's where Joe wanted to camp. And Joe brought

1016
00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:59.039
night vision with them, and he's he brought microphones with him,

1017
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:01.320
and so when he went to sleep in a sleeping

1018
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:04.079
bag on the cot, he put the night vision. He

1019
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:08.159
had some bags or whatever under his cot, so I

1020
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:10.800
put it in that. And I'm just bringing this up

1021
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:16.239
because what happens later. So the other guy that Joe

1022
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:21.000
brought is is sitting with me at the at the table.

1023
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:25.199
We're sitting in chairs and you know, having cold beverages

1024
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:29.159
and eating ribs and things. And about about eleven thirty,

1025
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:35.239
my Aussie, which you heard bark earlier, she all of

1026
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.360
a sudden acts real irritated. And I have her on

1027
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:40.280
a run line that goes away from the camper down

1028
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:43.599
the hill off to the side, kind of parallel on

1029
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:47.559
the road, and she's acting like I've never seen her

1030
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:51.679
act before. She's growling. And this dog never growls. I've

1031
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:55.800
never seen it growl. It hasn't growled since, just never happened. Well,

1032
00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:58.199
she's growling. She's staring right at a pile of rocks

1033
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:01.079
that is just just kind of over this rise and

1034
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:03.960
kind of up on the other side of this dry gulch.

1035
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:11.320
And and so the guy that's with me has he

1036
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:15.119
has night vision. It's a heat vision type, not ir anyways,

1037
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:16.960
he pulls up the heat vision. He's looking over and

1038
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:18.480
he says, all you can see is a rock pile

1039
00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:19.880
there because the sun was on it all day. And

1040
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:23.320
I apologize for coughing into the mic there, but so

1041
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:27.360
he he looks over and all he sees is this

1042
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:29.320
rock pile and he can't really make anything else out.

1043
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:32.599
It's really not very good clarity on that model anyways.

1044
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:36.519
But but you could definitely because the dog's like fifty

1045
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:39.039
feet away, you could definitely see the dog crystal clear.

1046
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:41.920
So I ask him if can I look through it.

1047
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:43.519
He's like sure, So he has it to me and

1048
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:45.960
I'm looking at my dog. Well, my dog's jet black,

1049
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:48.000
so you know, he kind of need night vision even

1050
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:50.519
to see her because it's pretty dark in there. But

1051
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:52.199
then I shine it down to where the horse crawl

1052
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:56.480
is because the camper's here, horse corals down here, and

1053
00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:58.960
then Joe's way down in the trees down here. Well,

1054
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:01.199
you can't see Joe to me, but I could see

1055
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:03.320
the horses, and the horses have their ears up and

1056
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:08.119
they're looking at the exact same rock pile. And my

1057
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:11.840
dog now is is going more crazy. She won't walk

1058
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:13.639
all the way to the end of that that that

1059
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.840
run though, because it's it's stops almost at the rock pile.

1060
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:21.480
She's about halfway down it. And and I'm thinking, well,

1061
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:23.440
it could be a bear, could be a cougar, could

1062
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:27.199
be you know this, that and the other thing. You

1063
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:29.719
know uh, And I said, let's shine some light on it,

1064
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:31.440
and he's going, no, no, don't shine light on it.

1065
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:35.199
I'm going to keep looking through the night vision and

1066
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:37.159
see if see if we can pick something up. And

1067
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:41.199
he's recording, and I said, well, I got to go

1068
00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:44.199
get my dog. You know, I'm I've only had the

1069
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.960
dog at that point for like three years, and so

1070
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:48.880
I gotta I gotta get my dog and bring it

1071
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:50.760
back because I'm not going to let her get whatever

1072
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:52.159
that is there. I'm not going to let it get

1073
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:57.239
a hold of her. So I I walked down the hill,

1074
00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:02.119
I grabbed the dog. I bring it back, and the

1075
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:05.239
dog won't stop facing that way. I won't stop growling.

1076
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.000
I can't get her to calm down. She's just too upset,

1077
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:11.960
which she's since then, never done it before that, never

1078
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:15.840
done it just that time. And so anyways, he's just

1079
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:17.960
I just can't see anything. I just can't see anything.

1080
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.199
And then after a bit I look at he lets

1081
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:23.920
me look again. I look at it, and the horses

1082
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:26.599
aren't aren't looking at that rock pile anymore. They're off

1083
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.199
eating and stuff. So they're relaxed. So I mean, whatever

1084
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:33.039
the threat was is gone. So that happened at about

1085
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:37.639
eleven thirty at night, maybe midnight. So then we both

1086
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:39.840
go to bed. Well, he's sleeping in a hammock fairly

1087
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:43.199
close to the camp or which I can't sleep in

1088
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:47.679
a hammock, but you know, it cripples me. But he's sleeping,

1089
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:49.320
and I'm just thinking, wow, you kind of look like

1090
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:53.000
a little taco there. If something's hungry, that's fun. You know,

1091
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.840
I'm going to go get in my metal walled vehicle.

1092
00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:59.000
Now go to sleep. So you have a good night, sir.

1093
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:01.519
And so I go to bed, and I got all

1094
01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:03.679
the windows open. Well, we have this top vent that

1095
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.280
when it's open, acts like a parabolic dish. I can hear.

1096
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.000
I can hear that side anything on that side of

1097
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:14.000
the the campra it just echoes it in so so,

1098
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:19.079
about two in the morning, I wake up to what

1099
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:24.239
I think is two men talking. There were only two,

1100
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:28.840
and I listened to it for I want to say,

1101
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:32.519
about five minutes. I was trying to figure out what

1102
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:35.199
the heck, you know, who's who's up at? You know,

1103
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:42.440
two am talking? But here's what's strange. The voices were

1104
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:51.639
so deep, like James Earl Jones, deeper than that, deeper

1105
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.199
than that, you know, there were and they were talking

1106
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:56.760
in full sentences. I couldn't understand the language. I could

1107
01:00:56.760 --> 01:00:59.599
hear it clear as a bell. And they weren't yelling,

1108
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:04.719
they were they were just talking. I'd say, they're probably

1109
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:07.000
within It sounded like they're within a hundred feet of

1110
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:11.760
my camper, and they were. They were talking about and

1111
01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:14.800
the other one would go. But you could tell it

1112
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.280
was two different voices because they were hitting different octaves

1113
01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:19.880
when they spoke. One was way deeper than the other.

1114
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:23.320
But it definitely sounded like two men, you know, two

1115
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:26.239
males anyways, I don't know. Maybe their females have deep voices.

1116
01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:32.039
I don't know. So so I finally got brave enough

1117
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:36.400
to throw my sweats on and take my flashlight and

1118
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:41.559
pop the rear door open and didn't see anything, didn't

1119
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:44.679
hear anything. But you know, I'm bumbling around getting sweats

1120
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:47.199
on and you know, so they had a few seconds

1121
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:52.039
of hearing me move around, shine the flashlight. Nothing there.

1122
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:57.880
So here's where it gets creepy. Three o'clock in the morning.

1123
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:03.840
Three o'clock in the morning, a lot of action happens

1124
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:07.519
all at once, and and what happens is, uh, let

1125
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:10.639
me start with Hammock Guy. That's that's all. Calm now,

1126
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:14.000
Hammick Guy. So, Hammick Guy wakes up to hearing deep

1127
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:16.440
voices at three. Now I heard him at two and

1128
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:18.079
they were on the other side of him, that he

1129
01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:20.320
was in between them and me. But apparently he didn't

1130
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:24.280
hear that. But he did hear him at three am.

1131
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:27.480
And I checked my phone clock to see what time

1132
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:29.880
it was. Is around two o'clock, but at three o'clock.

1133
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.199
This is this is and this is Hammick Guy's story

1134
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:34.760
because he told me what happened the next morning. So

1135
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:40.480
he said he heard deep voices and movement that wasn't

1136
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:43.400
far from him, he said it was it sounded like

1137
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:47.280
within like you know, fifty feet of him and uh

1138
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:53.679
or closer, but he could hear footsteps and voices, and

1139
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:59.039
they're they're talking really quiet, really quiet around him. And

1140
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:01.960
they started from one side of him, and they moved

1141
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:04.960
past him and started to go down to where my

1142
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:08.719
horses were down the hill, and they're going right at

1143
01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:11.400
my horses. He could hear him moving that way, and

1144
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:15.079
so he grabs his therm, which is he hops out

1145
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.159
of his hammock. He's got his boots on, his pants on,

1146
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:20.119
he's ready to go. He grabs his therm, which is

1147
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:23.599
below his hammock and pulls it up and he says

1148
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:26.239
that they had already moved past. You know, it's about

1149
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:28.280
it's at least one hundred feet down to the corrals,

1150
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:31.079
and they'd already moved past that. And he could hear

1151
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:34.159
him moving down the hill, but they were on the

1152
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:36.760
hill has all these little rolling slopes and then a

1153
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:39.920
bunch of trees. Anyways, they'd already gone out of where

1154
01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:42.480
the night vision could pick him up. So he ran

1155
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:46.920
after him. So he's running down the hill and he says,

1156
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:51.519
it doesn't sound like they're running. It sounds like they're stepping,

1157
01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:56.840
like taking steps. Boom boom, boom boom, And it's two

1158
01:03:56.880 --> 01:04:00.519
of them and he can hear a few branch breaking

1159
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:02.880
here and there, and he said, he's running at top

1160
01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:06.199
speed and can't catch him. And so they move right

1161
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:09.719
past our corral before he can get his THRMB up,

1162
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:14.960
and we're heading straight towards Joe. So Joe's down in

1163
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:18.559
this little meadow, you know, down the slope over this

1164
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:21.840
knoll from where the horses are at, surrounded by trees.

1165
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:25.280
But it's like this little clearing, it's maybe seventy five

1166
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:28.239
feet around of grass excuse me. And there's a bunch

1167
01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:31.000
of small trees and bigger trees right in there that

1168
01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:34.719
kind of ring it. And then if you keep going

1169
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:38.119
down that hill another one hundred yards, you'll hit a

1170
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:40.119
creek and then on the other side of that is

1171
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:42.960
Skukum Ridge and you'll go up through the thickest forest

1172
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.320
you've ever seen in your life. So anyways, so this

1173
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:52.679
thing drops down right by Joe. They're I mean, he's

1174
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:55.760
saying he can hear them moving right by where Joe's at.

1175
01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.320
So he gets over the little rise. Well, they had

1176
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.360
moved off from where Joe was at and headed down

1177
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:06.920
around these trees back to where there's this main logging

1178
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:09.599
road that goes down to the creek and you could

1179
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:11.920
hear them moving down that trail, but they're just through

1180
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:14.239
the trees where his night visions not picking them up,

1181
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:16.960
but he can hear them, and so he's chasing after him.

1182
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:20.719
He looks over sees Joe. Joe's laying on his back,

1183
01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:26.199
face up, not moving. Thought he was asleep. So so anyways,

1184
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:31.599
he moves down, He gets through the trees, gets down

1185
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:33.840
onto that logan road where they'd already gone down the

1186
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:37.320
logging road, which you know, one hundred yards, and we're

1187
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.440
back in the trees on this side of the creek,

1188
01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:42.960
crashing through the trees. So he runs down to where

1189
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:45.239
they're crashed through the trees and they were already going

1190
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:47.320
they'd already crossed the creek and we're headed up the

1191
01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:51.199
other hillside and they're moving at a steady rate. He said,

1192
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:53.079
it didn't sound like they ever sped up. They were

1193
01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:58.639
just moving quickly. And he said it sounded like you know,

1194
01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:01.679
a f two fifty going through the trees going uphill,

1195
01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:04.679
just crash boom, crash, crash crash, and until it just

1196
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:06.880
got they went over a ridge and it got quiet.

1197
01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:11.159
So he turned around, walked back up that that logan

1198
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:14.679
road which goes right right next to where we're camped

1199
01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:19.239
at and uh waits up for a bit, doesn't hear anything,

1200
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:22.199
goes back to sleep. So so that was the end

1201
01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:27.840
of his night. So here's where it gets spooky. So

1202
01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:29.719
he wasn't the only one that woke up at three

1203
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.639
in the morning. Joe also woke up at three in

1204
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:37.840
the morning. Joe said, he woke up. It was laying

1205
01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:41.960
on his back. He woke up and saw two silhouettes

1206
01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:47.079
towering over the top of them like looking down at him,

1207
01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:52.880
and you know, just massive, massive silhouettes and they were

1208
01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:56.639
just standing there looking at him, not making any noise,

1209
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:02.599
just just looking at him. And he said he wanted

1210
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:06.119
to reach down and grab his night vision to pull

1211
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.760
it up and record this, but he couldn't move. He

1212
01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:13.480
was frozen. He said that couldn't move his arms, couldn't

1213
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:15.639
couldn't lift his head. He said, all he could do

1214
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:18.320
is have his eyes open. And he said, you know,

1215
01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.159
no glowing eyes, nothing like that, just two black silhouettes.

1216
01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:24.480
And he said that they noticed that his eyes were open,

1217
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:26.360
you know that he's kind of looking at him. So

1218
01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:31.000
they turned and they moved off and they went down

1219
01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:36.039
the hill. Now, Joe said he was frozen for about

1220
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:37.920
a half hour or so, and then finally he could

1221
01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:44.719
start moving around again. And the next morning we wake

1222
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:47.199
up and I'm like, guys, guys, I heard voices last night,

1223
01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:49.159
and the other guy tells you, well, I'm more than that.

1224
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:53.119
And then Joe's Joe's pack and he's leaving, and it

1225
01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:55.440
was Saturday. We're supposed to be there for two days.

1226
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:59.719
But Joe had something real unfortunate happened back at his house.

1227
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:02.960
He had to get home, and I joke with him, Oh, no,

1228
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:08.360
you you got scared. But because Joe's fearless, it's just fun,

1229
01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:10.360
he says. But I want to tell you this what

1230
01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:12.360
happened last night. I woke up and there were two

1231
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:15.079
of them towering over the top of me, and I

1232
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:17.920
looked up. I couldn't move, man, he says. I tried.

1233
01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:20.920
I tried my hardest, just just even even lift my

1234
01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:24.920
head up. I couldn't. I was just stunned. And he said,

1235
01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:26.880
as soon as you know, after a few seconds, they

1236
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:30.079
noticed my eyes were open, they turned and walked off.

1237
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:32.239
And he said it was about three in the morning.

1238
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:34.479
Because he said, I laid there for about a half

1239
01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:37.000
hour till I could move again. And and then I

1240
01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:38.640
don't know if he checked his clock or whatever, but

1241
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:41.439
he has a pretty good sense of time. So I

1242
01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:44.479
think what happened, and this is just me saying what

1243
01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:47.960
I think is is the I heard him at two

1244
01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:52.039
talking they're they're a little bit further away from Hammock Guy.

1245
01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:55.880
And and then over an hour they came back in

1246
01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:59.159
and we're probably going to come in and look real

1247
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:04.319
close at our camp, Hammock Guy. And because Hammock Guy stirred,

1248
01:09:05.079 --> 01:09:06.920
they moved off. And I think when they moved off

1249
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:08.920
and went past the horses and dropped down the hill,

1250
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:12.159
they stopped Joe to take a look at him. And

1251
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:14.760
then when Hammick Guy came running down the hill, then

1252
01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:16.840
they took off from where Joe was at and continued

1253
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:18.920
on down the hill and crossed the creek and back

1254
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.840
up the other ridge. Now that's my take on it.

1255
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:27.640
We found no tracks. Oh, my listening devices worked until

1256
01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:31.520
two in the morning and went dead. The batteries are

1257
01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:33.760
supposed to last eight hours, and those bad boys and

1258
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:36.359
you can hear my horses stomping around and stuff on it.

1259
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:39.399
You know, At least I think it's the horses. But

1260
01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:42.159
then batteries went dead again. You know, I had them

1261
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:44.520
too far down the hill because Joe was so far

1262
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:46.199
down the hill. I wanted to put him kind of

1263
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:48.880
down by him a little bit because I thought, well,

1264
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:52.560
we have bait, so anyways, and I probably shouldn't call

1265
01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:56.520
Joe bait, but anyways, we had him downhill. But so

1266
01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:58.800
that was twenty twenty two and we didn't find any tracks.

1267
01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:02.319
We looked nothing. Yeah, so I still have twenty three,

1268
01:10:02.359 --> 01:10:04.039
twenty four, and twenty five. Yeah.

1269
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:06.800
Wow, it's so wild. I mean, I.

1270
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:10.600
Oh, it gets crazier.

1271
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:14.439
Not a lot of interviews. Do I get nervous during

1272
01:10:14.600 --> 01:10:20.079
the person retail, Like that's some intense stuff, Gary, like extreme,

1273
01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:24.239
and I'm sure it's you know, you probably had other

1274
01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:26.399
things happen that are right up there with it, but

1275
01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:30.039
I mean, my goodness, that's that's intense.

1276
01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:34.479
Yeah. It's it's like falling off a cliff. You know,

1277
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:36.840
you have the fear of of I'm falling, I'm gonna

1278
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:39.880
hit bottom. It's that intense. It's like, you know, I'm

1279
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:43.319
gonna honestly, for some reason, the thought of I'm going

1280
01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:46.760
to die, and you know they haven't they really hadn't

1281
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:49.760
made any attempts to kill us or anything, but they

1282
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:52.119
do try to scare us off. The one attempt that

1283
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:55.119
I would say is in twenty twenty four, and I'll

1284
01:10:55.119 --> 01:10:58.399
tell that in another thing that I called the Odyssey too.

1285
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.159
That's where they pushed it free down above the horse

1286
01:11:01.239 --> 01:11:04.720
and the horse almost went off a cliff and and uh,

1287
01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:07.079
we were so screwed. We're we're in a spot where

1288
01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:10.119
it's miles to get down a hill and there's trees

1289
01:11:10.199 --> 01:11:14.319
laying across the trail, so it's slow going man. And uh,

1290
01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:17.119
and they set a trap for us. I think that

1291
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:19.920
triggered this whole thing up. And I'll get into that

1292
01:11:21.159 --> 01:11:26.079
on a on another on at another time. But you know,

1293
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:29.640
I think what's important with anything that's happened to me,

1294
01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:31.920
and I haven't really heard many other people talk about

1295
01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:35.520
this is their speech. You know. They they talk like humans.

1296
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:40.399
They're not they're not apes, they're not like nothing like that.

1297
01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:45.680
And uh, and they're using complete sentences, and the sentences

1298
01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:48.000
are different. They're not saying the same thing over and

1299
01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:52.920
over again. They talk to each other. And you know, uh,

1300
01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:58.000
my my mother uh Iroquois Indian descent, she always said,

1301
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:03.119
they're forced people, not forced monkeys, you know, and nobody

1302
01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:06.880
really talks about that and their interactions with people. You know,

1303
01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:13.239
and I don't want to get your your your site tagged,

1304
01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:16.479
but you know the giant bones that are found all

1305
01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:19.159
over America that nobody talks about, and then they go, oh,

1306
01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:22.479
where's the bones, but you know they found over a

1307
01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:24.920
thousand bones over eight feet tall, some of them go

1308
01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:28.319
fifteen twenty and you know Smithsonian has them, that's where

1309
01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:31.319
they're at. But you know, stuff like that. It's just

1310
01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:33.880
a lot of this just comes together. One thing I

1311
01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:37.479
found though, and for people that want to see these things,

1312
01:12:37.239 --> 01:12:42.560
is don't wear camo. Don't you're not hunting them. That's

1313
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:46.239
just not going to happen. If you want to have

1314
01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:50.119
an encounter of any kind, just just be a camper

1315
01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:53.239
having fun where bright colors make a ton of noise,

1316
01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:56.680
and if they're in the area, they'll hear you and

1317
01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:58.800
they'll come in. If they're not in the area, you know,

1318
01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:00.960
they're not going to come in. And if they're in

1319
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:02.880
the area, they may come in and and and keep

1320
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:04.880
a distance, you know, depending on what you look like,

1321
01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:07.199
what you're doing. But if you're having fun, and laughing,

1322
01:13:07.319 --> 01:13:09.600
and for some reason that just draws them in, and

1323
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:12.239
the horses draw them in, you know, just all these

1324
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:15.880
things draw them in. And fortunately we found a place

1325
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:18.720
in the summer they go to all the time. But

1326
01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:20.960
like I said, they're at stub Stewart, which is west

1327
01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:24.199
of Portland by you know, twenty miles west of Portland.

1328
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:27.880
They're above Timber at Rears Horse Camp. They're up in there.

1329
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:32.039
They're they're at Northrup Creek, which is between Timber and Astoria.

1330
01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:35.560
They're I mean, they're they're up at Mount Adams. Any place,

1331
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:38.399
any campground we go to, these things are in there.

1332
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:44.560
You know, they're they're nearby, and they're they're not rare

1333
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:47.880
and people, you know, what just astounds me is the

1334
01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:51.479
four horsemen. Most of them never saw one, you know,

1335
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:54.920
and I'm like, well, geez, I swing a cat. I mean,

1336
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:58.600
they're everywhere, and and maybe it's because of our horses

1337
01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:01.720
that we're seeing so many and have so much activity,

1338
01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:04.600
but it just astounds me that people that really try

1339
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:09.560
to haunt them aren't finding them, you know. And one

1340
01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:11.720
thing I'd like to put out there is is that

1341
01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:15.880
the people that I'm going out with up up to

1342
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:18.479
merlthood with are kind of getting up in the years

1343
01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:20.319
and they can't really go up some of these trails

1344
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:23.840
that my girlfriend and I go up. I would like

1345
01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:27.720
to invite somebody to come in that will go up

1346
01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:29.760
the back side of this thing, because we can't take

1347
01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:32.119
our horse up anymore. And you'll find out in twenty

1348
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:35.760
twenty four why it's just too dangerous. But somebody that

1349
01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:37.920
will go up that ridge, make a lot of noise

1350
01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:39.600
and then come back down to camp because that brings

1351
01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:43.319
them back in. But if somebody wants an encounter, I'll

1352
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:47.079
put it out there. I'll take them in. I'll take

1353
01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:49.039
them up and show them right where you need to

1354
01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:51.479
go at twilight and make a bunch of noise. Wear

1355
01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:54.840
bright shirts, just just pound out some you know, beat drums,

1356
01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:57.760
whatever you want to do, and that'll bring them back down.

1357
01:14:57.800 --> 01:14:59.479
And then other it'll bring them back down so other

1358
01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:04.680
people can have encounters. But yeah, they're they're all over

1359
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:07.279
the place. I mean, they're it's not that rare. I've seen.

1360
01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:10.760
I've seen more bigfoot than I have black bears, except

1361
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:12.239
for the one at the bottom of my driveway. It

1362
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:13.600
lives there, so I see it all the time.

1363
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:15.760
But right yeah, Oh my goodness, it is. It is

1364
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:19.359
so incredible. I can't imagine. I mean, I think you're

1365
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:22.159
right though. You know, it doesn't matter where you're camping

1366
01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:27.880
around Mount Hood, you're gonna have stuff happen. The likelihood

1367
01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:31.039
that something's gonna happen is extremely high. I mean, they're

1368
01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:32.640
just all over the place out there.

1369
01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:35.000
Yeah, you have to be aware of it. They'll listen,

1370
01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:40.760
listen for weird l sounds, weird stuff that's not normal sounds,

1371
01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:43.000
and and they're in there. You know, if it goes

1372
01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:46.560
real quiet, that's a definite sign they're in there at

1373
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:50.800
least a hould. So anyways, well I have, uh, I

1374
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:53.479
have three more years of stuff.

1375
01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:58.520
Gary, so we got to get through it.

1376
01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:01.720
It's it's an incredible I mean, it really is an

1377
01:16:01.720 --> 01:16:03.920
odyssey multiple odyssees.

1378
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:07.600
And thank you so much for coming on again.

1379
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And we will definitely set up something a time for

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01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:17.359
you to come back and see where the next year's

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01:16:18.199 --> 01:16:21.960
take us after twenty twenty two. But thank you so

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01:16:22.039 --> 01:16:25.359
much for coming on. If you can check out Gary's

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01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:28.479
videos that he's got out that he put back a

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01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:31.760
few years ago, just look up a Bigfoot research project

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01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:32.319
on YouTube.

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I'll have the link more soon, perfect, perfect link.

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There'll be a lot more up there.

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Awesome, that's great. But thank you again, Gary so much

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01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:44.680
for coming on my pleasure.

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Look forward to getting the rest of this off my chest.

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All right.

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Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

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01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:56.840
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

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01:16:56.840 --> 01:16:59.680
would love to get out in those woods and experience

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01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:04.239
it from myself. Well, guess what, This year you can.

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01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:07.880
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned, because it's

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01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:12.840
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

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01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:16.880
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even

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01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:20.800
better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be

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01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:23.920
one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably

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01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:29.239
I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard

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01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:35.399
anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you

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01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:37.640
just got to be there. We'll leave at that. More

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01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:40.399
about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check

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01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:46.039
this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary

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01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:50.399
series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not

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01:17:50.600 --> 01:17:54.640
only go to the festival, but you can also sign

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01:17:54.720 --> 01:18:01.600
up for a track deep in the wild forest outside

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01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:06.319
of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to

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01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:10.000
look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up

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01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:14.079
for this, and yes, this will also be filmed for

1412
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:17.279
the next chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching

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01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:19.840
for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

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01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:23.079
It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

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01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:28.199
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

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01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:32.840
dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

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01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:37.600
like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two

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01:18:37.680 --> 01:18:40.600
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

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01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:45.720
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

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01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.119
that you guys can.

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01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:52.279
Can get a little a little help with.

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01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:55.560
The cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

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01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:59.760
you at the booth in Oakridge this year we can

1424
01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:02.119
talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

1425
01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:05.800
many people last year and the year before. It is

1426
01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:08.760
an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

1427
01:19:09.079 --> 01:19:13.520
and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

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01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:16.159
I want to say something directly to a very specific

1429
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:19.680
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

1430
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:22.680
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

1431
01:19:22.720 --> 01:19:25.920
can explain, or if you're a National Park ranger or

1432
01:19:26.079 --> 01:19:29.439
forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if

1433
01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:33.039
you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

1434
01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:36.199
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

1435
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:39.800
working intelligence and you've stumbled upon something you're not allowed

1436
01:19:39.800 --> 01:19:42.840
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

1437
01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:46.479
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

1438
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:49.640
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

1439
01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:53.520
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

1440
01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:57.199
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

1441
01:19:57.239 --> 01:20:00.840
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a while specialist,

1442
01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:04.439
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1443
01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:08.199
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1444
01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:11.479
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1445
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:15.920
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA,

1446
01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:19.680
or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1447
01:20:21.039 --> 01:20:24.520
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1448
01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:29.800
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1449
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:32.680
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1450
01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:38.640
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1451
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:42.840
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1452
01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:45.760
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

1453
01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:48.279
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1454
01:20:48.319 --> 01:20:51.439
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1455
01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:54.319
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:57.159
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01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:15.800
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1463
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:18.199
if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting,

1464
01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:21.159
please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

1465
01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:24.640
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

1466
01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:27.479
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01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:31.319
out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society

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01:21:31.359 --> 01:21:34.319
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01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:38.279
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01:21:42.119 --> 01:21:44.640
people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

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01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:47.359
you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

1473
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:50.880
Society until next time, Keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

1474
01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:53.159
and never stop asking what else might be out there?

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01:21:53.319 --> 01:21:54.239
And see you in the woods.