Aug. 4, 2026

Bigfoot Family Chooses Off-Grid Couple in Davie County, North Carolina

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Season 1

Sandi Russo joins Bigfoot Society to share the beginning of one of the most extraordinary long-term encounter accounts ever featured on the show. After moving off-grid in Davie County, North Carolina, strange events quickly became part of everyday life—powerful huff vocalizations, mysterious structures, disappearing tools, heavy footsteps around camp, towering figures hidden among the trees, and repeated close encounters with what she believes is an entire Bigfoot family.

Resources:

Sandi’s books: https://a.co/d/07FJ7gN7

https://a.co/d/0384092i

Sandi’s website: https://sandirusso.com

Sandi’s Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@goingoffgridwithsandiandsteve



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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers

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as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates

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about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge

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link in the show notes. Thank you, I pick for Society.

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You get the privilege of talking to Sandy today. How

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are you doing today, Sandy?

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I'm great, nervous but great.

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That's awesome. I'm so glad that we're able to set

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this up. A few things about Sandy is she lives

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off grid. We'll be talking about that later. Sandy Russo,

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author of the book My Journey with a Bigfoot named

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Kai and am I pronouncing that word correctly, Sandy. Yeah, perfect, perfect.

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So today this is Sandy's first time being interviewed in

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a podcast, so I'm very thankful for that. That's a

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big steps. As we were talking before, you know, it's

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just a big step is just getting the story out

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there in an audio format, in a video format, and

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I was like, man, this is going to help a

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ton of people, Sandy, and I think it really will.

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But you know, we were talking before that we actually

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have kind of a cool collection prior to where your

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bigfoot stuff starts because we're both from Massachusetts, so that's

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that's pretty awesome. I'm from, of course Franklin County, the

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Northfield area. Because Sandy was you were asking me before

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we recorded about a certain area and you were like,

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have you ever gotten hiking in the quab And so

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I would love to hear about your adventures. Is maybe

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in the quab in for a few minutes, because that

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is a beautiful natural area in Massachusetts. People should check

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out if they haven't. But yeah, I'd love to hear

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about that.

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Absolutely gorgeous there. Me and Steve loved hiking there and

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we did it daily and we always went together. But

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this one particular time, I had a girl day and

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Steve decided to go hiking into a swampy area off

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of Route nine. So it has a bunch of reads

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in it, the moose hanging out there, and so he

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was trying to catch a moose because we have not

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caught in a moose by this point, and we wanted

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to see one. So he went in there by himself,

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and he's sitting there and he starts hearing grunting and

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some loud noises. And I just happened to call him

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at that point to tell him I was done doing

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what I was doing and where was he? And he's like,

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you scared the crap out of me. And I said why.

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He's like, something is making a lot of noise in

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front of me, and it's like stomping. So I said, well,

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it's probably a bull moose. I said, you finally get

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to see one. He goes, I don't think I want

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to see this. He said, it's making some god awful noises.

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And I said, all right, stay on the boat with

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me and back out, just back out. So he starts

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backing out and he said, all right, I think a

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bar enough. So he said, I'm going to run the

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rest of the way, so I hung up.

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He ran.

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He calls me back when he gets to the truck

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and he says, whatever this was was crashing behind me

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and chasing me out of the woods, and his heart

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was going and he was so scared. He goes, I

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don't think that was a moose, but at the time

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we didn't think bigfoot. And so then another time we

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were hiking in the same area, the boll of Us together.

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We decided to go to Nico's Pizza and get a grinder,

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and we went out there and we found a dome

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like structure in behind the swamp and it was like

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a child's apparatus the way it was made, and it

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was like this, and it had crisscross things inside it.

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We climb in it and I was like, this is

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so cute. Not thinking anything, I go in it and

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I sit down on a blanket and I'm looking in

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the corner and I'm like, what is that? And Steve's

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looking and he says, that's a big pilot and there

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was a big plot in there. And I said, hopeing moliot,

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that's going to be a pair. So I'm like, we

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need to get out of here. So we climb out,

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and you know, it's funny. We never wondered how that

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got there, just never wondered. But we have also gone

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through the quabin where the dyke is and we've smelt

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some stenches that smelt of rotting dead. It was insane.

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And there was one other thing in there. Oh there

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was another person from where that saw a white bigfoot

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in there.

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Oh yeah, And I've talked to some of them.

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Mhm. So I was like, there's definitely a big foot

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in there, at least one, if not more.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, just in case listeners haven't heard

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them yet. I mean, so if you go into YouTube,

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I have playlists for every state in the US, and

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there's a Massachusetts playlist, or you can go to the

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map on big for Society podcast dot com and you

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can find the Kabbin. I've got reports, not all of

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them are on the map because some of them are

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not public, but I've had people tell me about encounters

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from most sides of the Kabbin, but I can definitely

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say south of the Kabbin there is a gentleman who

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saw one cross the road that looked like in Orangutan.

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And then on the west side of the Kabbin. You

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have those sightings where it's the White Bigfoot, and there's

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multiple ones of those. So yeah, what you're saying lines up.

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Oh yeah, over the years too, some whiles after my

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going to Sandy. So you had some weird stuff in Massachusetts,

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but the really weird stuff, it sounds like, didn't happen

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until you got out of state.

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Yes, well, we moved three and a half years ago

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to North Carolina, out County. We started having weird things.

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We moved off grid in February intent so it was

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very cold and we just had some really weird things happened.

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It was just continual, continual weird things, and we just said,

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you know, we're in North Carolina, maybe this kind of

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stuff happened. Having our tools disappear and they would reappear

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in a whole different area. We'd have things go missing

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totally never come back, and that we would have food

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go and we just thought it was little animals or something,

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you know, we didn't know what was going on. One day,

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when we started making buildings, we had the first thing

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we were going to make this a pantry. So when

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we started making this building for our food, Steve Steve

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I just happened to break my leg. So Steve was

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doing a lot of this himself and he needed to

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find some more screws. So he went down to this

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big tent that we had for our stuff and he's

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looking for screws. And before he went down there, he

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heard a huff. It was just a big huh, and

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he's like, what is that? And he thought of it

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like coming from the sky or something. And he's looking

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around and he's like, I don't know, I don't know

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what that is. And so he says, like, wait a minute,

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just go on, I need screws. So he goes down

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to the area where the screws are and he's looking

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for the screws. As soon as he gets in this

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little building, he hears a huff from his right and

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he's like, what is that? And then it was on

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the other side of the building and he said, Then

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a third one came and he's like freaking out and

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he says, I am not afraid for you of you

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stop And then he just stood there and it stopped.

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But then he was afraid to go out, but he's

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more brave than I am. So eventually he comes out

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and it stopped. There was no more of that. But

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it was just a random thing that happened, and I

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was like, I don't know what that was. And then

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the big thing that started that happened one night is

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we had moved. We had raccoons getting into our tent

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and the dogs had broke the zipper and so they

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could get in. And so we went moved into this

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little tent and we put our queen size bed in there.

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Now it took up the whole thing. It was barely

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room to walk. We had to crawl onto the bed

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to get in there. But we resipped so I felt

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safer in there. So one night we went in and

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we're laying there and we hear oooh and on the

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top of the tent goes down and we hear a

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big bang, and I was like, what is that? And

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Steve's like, it's the gosh darn cat. And I was

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like sorry. So I crawled down to the bottom of

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the bed and unzip it to call my cat in.

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And I don't have to call him in because he's

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pounding in fair lasses and I'm like, what is the rush?

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What's going on? I'm peeking out. I don't see anything.

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So we get back in bed, I get under the covers.

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Just as I'm under there, whack right on top of

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the tent again, and I was like, what is going on?

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And then we hear owls. They were it was a

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weirdest sounding owl I've ever heard, loud and barely. And

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I was like, first there's one over here, then there's

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one behind us, and then there's one further that way.

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And I was like, Steve, what is that. He's like,

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they're owls. I'm like that that isn't that doesn't sound

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like an owl. And then the next thing we know,

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our bed is flying across the tent. Something shoved it

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with us on it and moved it and nothing was

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heavy and we we So I don't know what that was.

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But when that happened, I started thinking something is going

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on here, and I started keeping a journal, and then

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I started researching and listening to your channel in Nancy's

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channel and crypt of Canada and Dixie Cryptied and all

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those channels, trying to find an answer to what was

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going on around my property. And I heard similar things.

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So I'm like, Okay, maybe maybe it's a bigfoot. Maybe.

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And it took me a while and a lot of

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research and even because my story is the biggest woo

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anybody's hard it. We have had so many things happen,

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but that's how it started, was with the tent, and

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then it progressed. So we started having other weird things happened.

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We had trees getting pushed down in our yard. There

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would be a there was one night there was three

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trees that came down and when we went to look,

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there was no cause. It was just pushed over and

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I'm like, what could do that? It looks like a

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big machine went back there and pushed it over. But

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there was no tracks and it was there was no storms.

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It was just odd. But that was another sign. Then

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we started finding structures and bent arches you call them arches. No,

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we didn't realize that was a big foot thing for

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a long time, but the structures, we thought the trees

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were falling like that somehow. I mean there was teepee formations,

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there was crisscrossed and underneath. It was odd. But one

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of the oddest woy things that we saw that then

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was the fog. One night we went out. We always

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go out on around sunset to watch the sun come down.

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And we're sitting out, you know, the farmer's field a

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couple of acres from our our tents at the time,

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and there was a fog. Oh no, first, there was

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a sound in the woods. It sounded like a dog

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that was extremely hurt. And but he was out in

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the middle of the woods and we had had dogs

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get loose, so not ours, but the neighbors, and we

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stop earlier. So he says, well, maybe that's one of

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the dogs. I should go check and make sure they're okay.

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So I didn't feel good, but he went. I sat

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in the truck and he went about fifty yards away

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and calling a dog, and all sounds stopped. No sound.

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So then he goes, well, I can't find it, and

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it's not making any noise anymore. So he comes back

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to the truck and gets in it. As soon as

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this butt hits the seat, the noise begins again, and

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he's like, oh, he said, there they are. He said,

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I'm gonna go, and I'm like, no, no, something's going on.

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And then I turn around and look over my shoulder

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and there is a fog rolling in. It's not in

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the farmer's field. It's coming from behind us and on

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the side of us, and it's rolling I've never seen

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a fog roll, but this thing well was rolling at

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us from two sides, and I Steve, Steve, we need

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to get out of here. This isn't right. We need

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to leave. So we high tailed it out of there.

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Never saw the fog thing again, but it scared the

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crap out of us because it was just too whoa.

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So that was those were the first things that we

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came across.

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I was curious, what is the time span that everything

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you've told me so far has happened in?

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That was about maybe a three month period when it

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starts the tent. Things started, it started escalating, and things

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started happening. So after that we go to we build

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a cabin and this has got to be October, and

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we're in the cabin and Steve's sleeping and I'm sitting

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on the couch and I hear boom boom, and the

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cabin's shaking. It was kind of like there's a dinosaur outside.

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That's kind of what it sounded like Jurassic Park. And

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all of a sudden, I started giggling because I'm thinking,

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is this a freaking bigfoot? I'm like, what is going

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on here? And I didn't wake Steve. Up. Didn't even

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think about it because I was such in the moment

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and the only thing that I did do was jump

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up and lock the door, not that that would help

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if you really wanted to get in. But then after

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that night, it was a few nights later that we

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have a chain hoist on the tree and something was

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pulling it and it's going and I was like, Steve

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again sleeping. A lot of this happened when Steve is sleeping.

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This is this is like a total me stories. That

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is why I thought I was going insane. And I'm

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trying to peek out of the window to see if

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I can see anything. I can't see anything. Again, I

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get off, make sure the doors locked. But then it stopped.

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So I said to Steve, I said, we need to

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go outside and check the ground because something was out

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there last night. So we're looking around and I find

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toe prins deep toeprins and there. So I said to Steve,

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I said, come here, look, one side in the mud

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had five, and then partial in the grass and and

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the mud had three. And I'm like, something was here

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and he comes over and steps on it. So there's

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no pictures. I never got any proof ever. I tried

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to take pictures, and later on I asked them if

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I could and because I wanted to get a picture

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of the eye shine. Nope, nope, they just don't jibe

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on that. When I was positive, yeah, it was a

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big big foot. Was when I was in bed, just

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laying there. All of a sudden, the boys come, oh.

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Man, hold on, Sandy, this is this is super important,

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and we need to let the internet catch up a

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little bit because this is super important and it's it's

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going in and out. Let's make sure the internet catches

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up for a second. Okay, perfect, this is yeah, this

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is really important. Do you mind starting over at the

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point where you're, like I was laying down and then.

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Something to your pros.

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Yeah, okay, we will wait for a minute. Check check check.

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What part are we starting over.

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Let's let's start at the point where you are laying

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down and then you it sounded like you were about

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to share that you heard something or something else.

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I don't know what's going on with the internet, it says,

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I have internet.

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Yeah, I think we are good now. So the part

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where you were laying down in the I believe in

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the cabin and you start to hear some things.

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Okay, thank you the boys.

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Yes.

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So it's laying down in the cabin ready to go

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to bed.

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When I'm thinking about things, and I hear other voice,

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clear as about in my mind and it's did you

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get that?

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Because I buzzed out.

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Uh no, I think.

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It's usually when you launch into stuff like this on

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on these shows, that's when stuff gets wild. Let's try

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one more time.

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Okay, they might be screwing with me. Sometimes they do that.

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Yep.

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So I was laying in bed thinking about things, and

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all of a sudden I heard another voice in my

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mind and in a deep rally voice, it said hello.

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And then I was like, did I just hear that?

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And then I thought about it and I was like, hello,

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where are you? Of course you get nothing, nothing. I've

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got one reply from these guys.

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Nothing.

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And but after that happened, I was insane with here voices. Really,

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I had thoughts put in my mind and I just

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thought I was going insane. Ah, I don't know what's

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going on with the internet. Now I lost my track. Oh, okay,

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start again. So after that, I got a dream, and

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I don't know if you've ever been in a dream

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where you're looking at your dream from the outside. I've

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never had a dream like that. This was so off

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for me. And I'm watching and when I'm watching it,

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I see a big clearing with a lot a big foot.

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In there.

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And there was a big log that had different kinds

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of fruit, fruits and vegetables on it. I don't know

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what they were.

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Mm hmm.

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But there was a big thing that I'm not seen

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because I am on the outside. And then behind me,

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a hand is put on my shoulder and I felt

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the biggest prickle in my back and I was like

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And then I woke up and I was like, what

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was that? I have never ever had a dream like that.

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And I talked to a couple of people and they

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said it's called green travel, where they take you to

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show you something. So I don't know if they were

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introducing their family. I don't know exactly what it was,

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but I was freaked out. It was a male that

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was with me. I am sender. Okay, so if it

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blanks out, if I pause and don't talk, will that

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be okay?

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Yeah?

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Yep, Now I lost you your friend? Okay, okay? Where

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am I? Oh?

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God, help me?

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Unlos you're doing? I can ask some questions for a bit.

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It might be a good question break and then that'll

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probably job. It's kind of going in and out. Yeah, yep,

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if you want, we can always we can try going

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over to a phone interview. If you have better phone

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coverage then Wi Fi coverage.

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Yeah, I might. You want to try it, Yeah.

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Let's try it. Okay, So we're gonna this will be

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like I'm going to go ahead and end this recording,

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and then we need to make sure that everything is cool.

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Uh So, Sandy, that's that's incredible. I have not heard

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many people that have experienced the the dreams like you

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have just shared. And it is one thing I want

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to say real quick because I know going into this,

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you're like, this is this is super wo this is

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super crazy. But the thing is is that more people

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are experiencing this than you probably realize. Where there's you know,

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voices being heard, strange dreams, this thing. I mean, I've

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experienced stuff like this myself from when I first went

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into Oregon. When I came back, I have really intense

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dreams about Bigfoot. When I went to Tennessee a few

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months ago, I heard voices multiple times in the area

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we were at. I was oh, yeah, there was a

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there's a cabin where I was in. I was trying

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to take a nap and I was almost falling asleep,

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and then a voice said, gotcha on my left side,

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or what I assumed to be my left side, and

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it was very strange. It made me get out of

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the cabin pretty quick. I was like, WHOA, that's weird.

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SOE like that happens. I mean, if you're in the

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right areas, I think you're going to have those interactions.

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But was your was he also experiencing these same things

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as well, not like me, okay, gotcha.

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It wasn't until later.

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Oh, I think I was having introductions as why I

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was what was happening. Because the next thing that happened

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to me, we were driving on a rainy day in

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the woods and we were coming out near the farmer's

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field and I just happened to look in the farmer's

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field and in the cross between the fields there's trees

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and bushes and there was two shins, hairy shins, sticking

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out of the brush. And I said, oh, Steve, stop

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and I'm like, back up, back up. I saw something.

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And then when we went it was gone. And you say,

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to yourself. Did I just freaking see that? And these

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shins were it was like grayish, but it was wet,

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so it was a little blackish too, but the skin

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looked pinkish, and I was like what, And these thoughts

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in my head are. I was like, all right, if

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that was you, what does the rest of you look like?

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And I think these things and they show me things.

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So the next thing I know, I'm sitting in the

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cabin and I was just sitting there thinking. In my mind,

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my eyes were closed, and then in my mind I

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get a video which was remote viewing, and I'm seeing

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a gray saucequatch standing on rock and I'm looking.

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And I'm like, how can I see this? And I

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saw his face.

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And he had like a little bump on his head

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and he had pinkish skin, and I was like, I

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never heard of a big foot that had pinkish skin,

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but he did.

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It was like tannish pinkish.

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And what distracted me was I was seeing this in

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real time because his fur was dancing in the wind

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and I could see it, and I was like, whoa,

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And I said out loud, I said, you're a handsome guy.

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And he was a nice looking sasquatch for a sasquatch.

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And when I said that, I opened my eyes and

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the remote viewing was broken and I no longer could see.

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But I was like, did I just see that? I'm like,

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what is going on here? But I did.

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I'm running tell him Steve, and Steve's like what, And

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I was like, I don't know how, but I saw him,

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and and I knew that he was not showing me himself.

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It was another one that was showing me. It was

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a female presence. And the reason I know these kind

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of things is I'm a sensitive and I can see

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here in field ghosts, so I am an impath.

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So I can feel emotions.

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So I had a good hook up with him, and

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that kind of sense, I like knew everything.

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Sorry, real quick, can you can you clarify what you

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mean by that?

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Bye?

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Bye? You had a good hookup with him.

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I I could read him. I could read his thoughts,

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he could read mine, and it just so happens his

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whole family could.

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But I know there was more than one at the time, and.

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I could feel when he was happy. I never ever

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felt him raged at all. I felt unperturbed, but not raged.

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After I saw that I started. We were having fires,

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and we started noticing that there's knocking.

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And there was brush moving.

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And I said to Steve, I said, I always feel

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like I'm being watched. He goes, I feel that too,

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and I said, well, well something's with us. I feel it,

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and so he grabbed the flashlighte and he go looking.

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He never found anything, never found anything. But I started

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asking out loud because I would feel him and I

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would like, are you there?

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Oh?

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You know what? First I asked him what his name was? Okay,

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and he when I was sleeping and these words, these

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letters were floating at me. K A I k A,

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I just floating And then it woke me up and I.

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Was like, your name is Kai. I think your name's Kai.

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That's what I think.

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Wait, can I ask you a question about that real quick?

465
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.400
So it's just really important. So when you say they

466
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:57.839
were floating at you, were you almost like you're in

467
00:32:57.839 --> 00:32:59.799
that dream state where you're waking up and it's just

468
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:03.039
all almost like these huge block letters are coming at

469
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:06.200
you and you're like, wow, what is that? Like that?

470
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:08.440
Yeah, that's kind of how it was.

471
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.319
I know what that is, yep, okay.

472
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.599
So then I knew what to call him, and I

473
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:18.720
knew for sure it was a he, you know, because

474
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:22.480
you have your doubts. And so then when we were

475
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:28.200
sitting at fires, we feel him and I would say this,

476
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.279
you know, see do you feel what if you feel it?

477
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:35.559
And sometimes you wouldn't. Sometimes you wouldn't, but we would

478
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:41.079
hear pops like with your mouth, like big lad pops

479
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:42.960
and like with making that.

480
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:44.599
He's like, do you hear it?

481
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:52.039
And I said no, not really, but we turn everything

482
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:53.160
down then we'd hear it.

483
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:56.960
And I'm like, well, that's weird. What is that?

484
00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:59.680
You know, in the back of my mind, I know,

485
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:05.839
but your logical mind is telling you what is going on.

486
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.760
So we put we put our a little podcast back on.

487
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:16.360
We are listening to and we here crashing in the

488
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:20.079
woods right next to us. I mean, like a bull

489
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:25.280
with rinders is crashing, and it goes from one side

490
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.960
of us around because there's like a little loop that

491
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.159
we sit in, and he goes to the other side

492
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:36.559
behind my pantry. And it was very scary, and I'm like,

493
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:41.599
copy is that you? And I was a little shaky,

494
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:43.719
you know, and I said, Steve, meane we should go in.

495
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:50.320
So we ended up picking up and going in. And

496
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.840
when I'm in there and Steve falls asleep and I'm

497
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:56.920
laying there and I finally fill asleep too.

498
00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.960
Then I get up to go to the bathroom.

499
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:05.519
And I get a vision again, but it was kind

500
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:11.920
of like a memory. And I see the back of

501
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:16.719
my pantry. I see the fire going. I can't see

502
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.519
me because I'm in front of the pantry, but I

503
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:24.519
see the fire and I see the glow, and I'm

504
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.199
seeing the woods and I can turn my head.

505
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.440
And see everything. It was just odd.

506
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:41.400
But when this shut off of my brain, I knew

507
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:45.280
where he was and I knew it was him because

508
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.960
it was like he was sending me, yes, it was me.

509
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:55.199
And he did that often, but usually my eyes were

510
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:59.519
close when I got it, when I got those visions,

511
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.880
but not always. Sometimes I would be sitting there and

512
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.519
things would just go black, and then I would I

513
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:13.079
would see whatever he wanted me to see, and I

514
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.239
could turn my head. I could see everything that he saw.

515
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:22.039
It was I thought I was the lupiest girl ever.

516
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.039
I don't know what was going on. Well, I didn't

517
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.880
know what was going on, and I was searching for

518
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:29.760
answers like you wouldn't believe, And I didn't want to

519
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.000
tell anybody because I was just like, people are.

520
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:36.159
Going to think I'm sane, what is going on?

521
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:45.840
But one day me and Steve were picking up leaves

522
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:48.119
and we had set all our tools on the shed,

523
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.599
all in the rough, and.

524
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.079
We go and we go to bed, and we come

525
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:53.920
back out in the morning.

526
00:36:53.960 --> 00:37:01.440
We go to pick up and the shovel's gone, and

527
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:03.639
I'm like, do you have the shovel.

528
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.400
He's like, no, it's on the shed. I'm like, it's

529
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:07.599
not on the shed.

530
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:10.280
He's like, all right, let's go take a ride, because

531
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:12.239
oddly we'd find things all over the d.

532
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.880
So we took a ride and we're looking around high

533
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.519
and low, and we come upon.

534
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.639
The place where we are going to be working next

535
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.840
and the shovel is behind a tree right where we're

536
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:32.800
going to work. And I'm like, get out of here.

537
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:37.000
And you have to start having some a sense of

538
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:37.679
humor with this.

539
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.519
Yeah, absolutely, because the.

540
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:47.039
Joking that happened here is insane. There was one day

541
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:50.519
that it was so hot out here and we had

542
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:55.280
bought these little tiny fans, these ubs stands, and Steve

543
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.000
gets this bright idea that it's going to cool off

544
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.039
the house if he turns it opposite, puts it in

545
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:03.039
front of a little window. So he goes in the

546
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:06.199
house to set this up, thinking it's going to be

547
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.199
cooler in the house after because the cool air is.

548
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.000
Going to commit. And he goes in there.

549
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.159
And I hear him start to come out, and then

550
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:22.599
I hear him swearing, and I was like, but I'm

551
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.800
also feeling a little happiness going on, And I was like,

552
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:29.360
what is going on? So I listen again and I

553
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:32.519
hear him get it on again, and he starts to

554
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.800
walk out the door again and he shuts off again.

555
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.159
He's like, what the heck.

556
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:44.599
And he's walking back and he gets it. He's like,

557
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:45.800
all right, you had your fine.

558
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:46.519
Stop it.

559
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:52.039
Freaking fan comes on and doesn't go off again. And

560
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:53.920
this kind of stuff happened to us all the time.

561
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.840
They would just shut things off, and I don't know

562
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:04.320
how they do it. There's some kind of energy, but

563
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:05.280
it happens.

564
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:12.360
There was another day that I.

565
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:15.599
Was listening to a radio that was solar and the

566
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:21.719
solar ran out, so I just left it in the shade.

567
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.039
Day I just left it outside. I forgot about it.

568
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:30.039
We're going in and usually when we go in, we say,

569
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:33.000
can I ki, and then we go in.

570
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:39.960
And so we're discussing how obnoxious the bugs are tonight,

571
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:41.400
meaning they're.

572
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:44.039
Loud, they're super loud, and.

573
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:48.920
I'm like, I'm guessing Kai's not around tonight, but I mean,

574
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:51.840
we don't know, because we try to figure it out,

575
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:52.400
and then they.

576
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:58.880
Show us that we're wrong. But we go in.

577
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.440
And then the music starts screaming in our yard up loud.

578
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:12.239
My heart was racing because I know that radio is dead,

579
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:19.280
but it's playing outside and now I gotta go out

580
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:24.159
and shut it off. And so I go out there

581
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:26.239
and I grabbed the radio.

582
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:30.280
And it's off. I'm like, what the hen? I said, Okay,

583
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.800
you're funny stopping and I go back in and I.

584
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.400
Said, you're scared to me. He almost gave me a

585
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:40.719
heart attack, and I could feel him laughing. He asks

586
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.199
this joy about him that you could swear he's rolling

587
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:50.800
on the ground laughing, and I feel it. And he

588
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:55.440
he does that to our phones too. There was there

589
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:56.599
was a day.

590
00:40:58.079 --> 00:40:59.280
There's like a half.

591
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:01.400
Hour of trying to get the phone to work with

592
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.719
the phone company, and finally they tell me.

593
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.880
To shut it off. It'll work in fifteen minutes. Let

594
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:12.079
it do its thing. Fifteen minutes later, I turned back up.

595
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:12.599
It's not on.

596
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:19.000
Next my niece says her phone's not working either, no text,

597
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:19.800
no internet.

598
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.320
And then Steve gets the same thing.

599
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:26.039
And we didn't have any internet up here at the time,

600
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:31.599
so we just have the phone data. But I mean,

601
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:35.800
that never goes out, and they're all useless. All the

602
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.400
phones are useless. And then it.

603
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:40.800
Dawns on us what's going on.

604
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.280
All three of us are start laughing because we know

605
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:48.320
they're doing it, and we're like, you need to stop it.

606
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:53.880
And he says to me, in my mind, I don't

607
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:58.440
know what your obsession is with these devices. He said

608
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:03.880
they're bad, and I said they might be bad. I said,

609
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:06.280
but we don't have anything to do in the pitch

610
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:12.360
Stark but play on our games and talk, so you

611
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:16.480
need to stop. And then they don't go back on again.

612
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:23.039
So but there's a lot of that that still happens today.

613
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:29.920
That is incredible. Sandy, my goodness, let me throw a

614
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:36.480
question here. Talk to me. Well, okay, so sometimes I

615
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.519
ask some questions just to clarify something. And I do

616
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:43.239
not mean anything bad by these questions. Okay, it's just

617
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:51.039
me getting more information. So when you are having these experiences,

618
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:57.000
would you consider yourself sober or are there other Are

619
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:00.719
there are times when there are things being used and

620
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:02.039
then these things occur.

621
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:05.519
Oh no, I'm not a big drinker.

622
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:10.000
Okay, i'd smoke pot. I don't do any of that. Okay,

623
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:15.280
so we'll have a drink, but.

624
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.159
Not like not, You're not getting drunk or anything.

625
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:18.519
Okay, perfect, No, I don't drink to get drunk.

626
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:28.559
Okay, awesome, do you have I'm really curious because I've

627
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:31.280
kind of picked up on something, But are you an

628
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:36.239
individual that is utilizing meditation and things like that?

629
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:39.960
To be honest, I'm afraid of it.

630
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:42.760
Really, So this all this is happening without that.

631
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:48.159
Oh my, I have abilities that I have not uncapped

632
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:49.679
and I'm afraid of it.

633
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.440
Wow, I am so afraid of it.

634
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:58.039
And I'm I'm afraid of the Bigfoot big time.

635
00:43:58.159 --> 00:43:58.880
Why are you afraid?

636
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:04.199
And they know this because they're huge. I've seen them.

637
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.199
When we started seeing them, they were in the dark

638
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:11.559
and they were shadows and they were Kai has got

639
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:12.639
to be about ten feet.

640
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:13.519
He's huge.

641
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:18.480
And we measured a tree that he was near and

642
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.440
about where we saw because what happens at night is

643
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.199
when they're standing around, they just blend into.

644
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.239
The tree like you'll see a little.

645
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.800
Sapling and I mean not a sapling, but maybe six

646
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.480
six inches around maybe, and that little tree will turn

647
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.360
into a big tree and they put their they stand

648
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.320
behind it, they put their two hands on the tree,

649
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.519
and then they turn into the tree. If that makes

650
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:52.519
any sense, it does, it does. Yeah, they are just

651
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:56.920
a tree. And I have They make me doubt myself.

652
00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:00.000
They make us both doubt ourselves. Is there a big

653
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.159
treeo there? I don't remember a big tree being there,

654
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:03.599
but there'll be a big tree there.

655
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:04.840
Yeah.

656
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:11.480
And it's so strange. But I saw them, but I

657
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.519
noticed that I was afraid to even go outside by myself.

658
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:16.519
It's not that.

659
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.719
I'm afraid of Kai and his family, because I'm not.

660
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:25.800
It's the size. It's the size of these things. They're huge.

661
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:32.320
They are so big, and I am petrified. And I

662
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:36.679
always say to them, if you're going to show yourself

663
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:39.880
to me, please do it in the field during the day,

664
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:44.559
a bit away from me so I can absorb it

665
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:49.119
and hopefully send me call me and energy user something

666
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:52.840
because I don't look like I don't know and I

667
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.960
want so bad to meet them and shake their hand,

668
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:59.880
but I'm that afraid. I am that I've always been

669
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:03.480
afraid of my gift. I've always been afraid of you know,

670
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:09.320
this kind of stuff. And it's it's not I mean,

671
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:13.199
I've got brave like you wouldn't believe on certain things,

672
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:17.840
but when it comes to physically meeting them, I've been

673
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:23.000
afraid and I have sitting well, we haven't gotten through

674
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:28.800
the whole story, but Kai has come up maybe five

675
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:31.760
to ten feet from me when I was sitting on

676
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:38.039
the ground, and they can feel your energy because my

677
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:44.039
heart was racing so much. He backed away and he

678
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.440
didn't just back away, he floated away.

679
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:49.119
So much. Woo.

680
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:55.559
No, it's it's it's not really, Sandy. It's man, if

681
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:58.480
I have anything to do with this community over the

682
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:01.800
next years, I have to do this. It's that just

683
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:05.039
WU is out of the picture and that it's not

684
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.840
referred to that and it's like, I think this is

685
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.559
the real side of things to be, to be honest, Andy,

686
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:14.639
and it's we're just not accepting it. You know, it's happening. Yeah,

687
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:19.159
it's absolutely happening out there. So a question about when

688
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:21.639
he was that close where he was he behind you

689
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:23.719
or was he in front of you and you could see.

690
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:27.599
Him the time I was sitting on the ground.

691
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:32.320
Yeah, that's when I saw the eye shine. But okay,

692
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:35.119
he walked up to me.

693
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:39.639
I was sitting facing him, and he got taller and

694
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:40.800
taller and.

695
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.480
Taller, and I panicked.

696
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.880
I didn't run, but he he had to have felt

697
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:53.679
my racing heart because he stopped.

698
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.639
But I wanted to see his baby so bad, so bad,

699
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:04.880
he's so little, but I couldn't. I was afraid.

700
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:10.320
That is that is the big problem, is that I

701
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:11.960
am very afraid.

702
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.599
What do you think it would take for you to

703
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:15.639
get past that fear.

704
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:24.480
I was hoping is that they would send me caming energies,

705
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:28.639
which I know they can, and I would be able

706
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:32.079
to substain sustain.

707
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:34.679
It or be able to sustain it.

708
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:39.519
Yeah, yeah, encounter it without freaking out. I have a

709
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:40.719
heart condition, and.

710
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:45.920
That's the problem. Okay, that is the problem. So but.

711
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:54.920
On when I finally realized that he was not alone,

712
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:58.000
I mean, I don't know why I thought he was alone.

713
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:01.280
I mean I heard three I will you know right

714
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.440
from the beginning, obviously he had friends.

715
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:08.079
Back I just because he told me who he was.

716
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.000
I just you know, he was the only one I

717
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:15.599
saw in my mind. Not yet did I see him.

718
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:22.360
And actually I have not never met Kai, but I

719
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:26.599
have met his mate, which we'll get into later. I

720
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:33.159
realized there was more is that I had already heard

721
00:49:33.239 --> 00:49:35.559
Kay's voice, so I knew what he sounded like.

722
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.960
And one day I was canning.

723
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.239
And I was cutting a bunch of onions up I

724
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:47.960
was doing potatoes and the neighbor who's about five hundred

725
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:50.599
feet away from me up on a hill, comes down

726
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.480
a hill and she brings me a plate of food

727
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:55.480
and she's introducing herself kind of.

728
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:56.039
It was like.

729
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:01.679
It was sweet. So but she brought her little grandkids

730
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:05.920
and she speaks Spanish, very hard to understand her, but

731
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:09.559
her granddaughter speaks good English, so she was interpreting for us.

732
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:12.320
And the little boy.

733
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.400
Was pointing to the woods and he starts yelling monster,

734
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:24.280
and she's just smiling, and I'm looking because I know

735
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:28.719
what he's seen, and he's like smacking his grandmother.

736
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.239
He's like monster, and.

737
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:34.840
He gives it like a half wave. I don't know

738
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:36.760
if it waved to him and gave it a half wave.

739
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.400
And I'm looking over there and I said, Ki, please

740
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:46.480
don't scare my neighbors. And the grandmother looks at him

741
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:50.199
finally and she goes, do you see your crocodile? And

742
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:53.000
he's looking at her like that doesn't look like no crocodile.

743
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:57.679
And he's looking and I see where he's looking, but

744
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:03.239
I don't see anything, and he says, uh, yeah, crocodile.

745
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:06.920
And I was like, what is that?

746
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.360
And I was like, that is the weirdest thing because

747
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:14.000
he saw it the little boy saide.

748
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:16.440
And I'm like, well, that's weird.

749
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:22.320
So but a little while later, I'm canning by myself

750
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:29.400
and I hear because I'm thinking to myself, it's too

751
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:32.119
bad I don't have a big area to cook because

752
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:35.159
I could make a soup starter with all these extra

753
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:40.639
vegetable things and the onions would be really yummy. And

754
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:49.639
in my mind, I hear, can I have it? And

755
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.079
by this point I'm a little used to what's going on,

756
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.760
and I say, sure, where would you like me to

757
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:56.199
leave it?

758
00:51:57.519 --> 00:51:58.519
And he answers me.

759
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.239
He says the stroke sure because they have a structure

760
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:06.920
that I leave food on for once in a while, okay,

761
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:11.840
And I'm laughing because I'm thinking he can't possibly think

762
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:14.960
he's gonna like this. I mean, soup is a different

763
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:18.639
thing than onions, you know, pieces, And I'm like, he

764
00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:22.519
can't possibly know what this is. But he heard me

765
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:26.639
say yummy and this would be good, and he heard

766
00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:32.199
this stuff in my mind. He's mind dropping that he's dropping.

767
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:38.840
And so I wrapped the onions up, and I decide

768
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:41.199
to go get some pork rints because I know they

769
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:44.320
like them. So there was a quarterback left, so I

770
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:49.199
wrapped it up and put it on the crisscross on

771
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:51.880
the structure, put it under there, and I hung the

772
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.159
onions there and I went back laughing because I'm thinking,

773
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.039
he's not kind of like this, but they'll get a

774
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:01.559
good surprise too. So I go there because I forgot

775
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:03.880
about it, but just before I went to that, I said,

776
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:07.360
oh yeah. So I go over there, and of course

777
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:12.760
the onions are still there, but the pork rains are gone,

778
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:19.480
and in its place was a neatly folded bag back

779
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:23.119
exactly where I left it. And I just immediately felt

780
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:27.960
the gratitude that I left in the pork because they

781
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:31.039
seem to really like pork rains. I don't know why,

782
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:35.079
but they do. So that was the gift. That was

783
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:38.559
the second time, and I got a reply from the

784
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:46.840
mind speak. But there are times when I hear in

785
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:52.599
my own voice. One day, I was playing Candy Crush

786
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:57.840
and I hear from behind me, what that And I'm like,

787
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:07.199
it's a game, something to pass your time. And I

788
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:10.039
hold the tablet up to the socke of me because

789
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:13.239
it feels like he's right there, and I'm explaining it

790
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:18.000
to him. I'm like, this is what I do when

791
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:19.840
I'm waiting for bood to cook.

792
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:25.960
I passed the time, and so when I'm done, I

793
00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:27.599
turned and there's no one there.

794
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:32.679
But I was compelled to explain it to him.

795
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:35.920
And I don't know why, but.

796
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.199
There are there are questions that come in my mind

797
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:43.360
that I know I didn't ask, so I'll just say

798
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:49.360
it out loud. I'll just tell him.

799
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:51.960
But there have been.

800
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:58.079
When we are sitting out with the campfires, Steve had

801
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:00.920
always jump up and go look for him. And one

802
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:06.039
day I just happened to be watching and I'm seeing

803
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:12.039
Steve down the end, but I'm seeing a clear figure

804
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:19.360
move away and it would stop behind a tree and

805
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:20.920
it would pause for a minute.

806
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:22.159
And then it would move away again.

807
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:29.840
Steve got closer, and then I realized they're cloaking. It's

808
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:34.920
like the predator. It's exactly like the predator. That is

809
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:38.039
not the only way they cloak, but I've seen that

810
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:45.639
they clear. And then one day I'm filtering water and

811
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:46.960
I hear knocking.

812
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.920
And this is during the day. I hear a big.

813
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:55.079
Old knock and I'm like, or a crack. I don't

814
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:57.440
even know what it was, but it was a big

815
00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:03.320
cracking noise. And then I see not even I just

816
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:05.639
happen to be looking at this side. I see a

817
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:10.480
big tree get pushed and it comes down towards me,

818
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:14.320
and then it stops on another tree, and all of

819
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.960
these leaves are falling all over the place like it's snowing.

820
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:20.119
And I'm looking down there and I'm looking at the tree,

821
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:22.800
and I'm like, are.

822
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:23.440
You down there?

823
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.480
So I go down there and I'm looking because I'm

824
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.719
not afraid during the day, so I'm looking around.

825
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:35.159
I don't see anything, and I'm like, ki, are you here?

826
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:40.679
And I hear running away, like not.

827
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:45.000
Really running, walking walking away, like going around the circle,

828
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:49.599
and he's stop somewhere on the other side, and I

829
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:51.159
don't see him. I don't know what happened to him.

830
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:54.440
I'm like, okay, and I go back to filtering. I

831
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:59.199
get a sense that somebody's watching me and I look

832
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:04.039
to my and I see a tree that looks like

833
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:10.519
it has shoulders, and I'm like, I shoulders. I'm like,

834
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:15.480
that looks like shoulders. So I moved myself forward a

835
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:19.480
little bit, and I swear to you, Jeremiah, I saw

836
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:26.719
a head and eyes missus during the day, and this figure.

837
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:32.960
Look like Bark. There is his fur.

838
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.840
I mean I could tell it was fur, but it

839
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:42.519
was it looked like bark. And then I see yellow

840
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:48.119
eyes blinking at me and watching me, and I'm like,

841
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:52.199
I see you, and he's just looking at me. And

842
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:57.760
if you've ever saw Stott todd Standings first documentary, the

843
00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:03.159
one he calls Jane, yep. But the fluffy that was that,

844
00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:09.840
That's what I saw. And I something told me to

845
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:14.519
walk away, and I don't know why. I mean I

846
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:21.039
walked towards it, but I didn't. I just turned around

847
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:30.559
and it was gone, but definitely a very odd I

848
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.400
can still see it in my mind, clear as a bell.

849
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:41.079
He was just observing me, just watching me, and I

850
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:42.679
thought it when I first.

851
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:44.480
Saw it was kai. I thought that's what it was.

852
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:49.079
Then I realized that the one had the one that

853
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:54.239
I had talked to earlier. His voice sounded like Scooby

854
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:59.039
Doo and I just started thinking of as Scooby Doo

855
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:04.039
and is I heard his voice because that's who he

856
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:05.239
sounded like in.

857
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:08.960
The way that he was talking, like the way he

858
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:11.559
was putting words together, or can you go a little

859
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:12.639
bit more into that.

860
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:18.559
No, it sounded like the cartoon was talking. It sounded

861
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:23.639
exactly like him, the way that he you know, kind

862
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:28.480
of that's what he sounded like. Wow, And it was

863
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:31.199
I knew when he was younger. I just knew it.

864
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:35.719
And that's who I think was looking at me during

865
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:39.199
the day. I mean I had And that was the

866
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:43.199
point where I realized it was more. And it wasn't

867
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.239
until I saw the eyeshine that I realized how big

868
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:49.199
his family is, because one day he brought them all

869
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:53.480
and there was about seven up them.

870
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:53.320
Down in my gully.

871
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:58.599
And they just when we're outside listening to podcasts, they

872
00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:03.519
come and listen. They will I can. One day I

873
01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:08.280
played because Crypt's candidate has read part of my book

874
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:14.920
on her show, I played that part for him. And

875
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:17.239
he thought it was the most funniest thing. I could

876
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:21.000
feel his laughter. Every time he did something that freaked

877
01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:23.199
us out or did something to us, he threw us funny.

878
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:25.840
He likes to get a rise.

879
01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:26.480
Out of us.

880
01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:28.800
That's wild. Oh my goodness.

881
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:29.320
Yeah.

882
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:33.239
So just real quick, this is stupid. This is a

883
01:00:33.239 --> 01:00:36.679
weird question. So are you listening to this show out there?

884
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:39.079
Yes?

885
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:41.400
So how do how does that go?

886
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:48.760
Well? The stuff that he thinks is funny is about him.

887
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:50.159
Oh okay, gotcha.

888
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:54.480
So I'll be curious to see when I play this

889
01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:55.960
outside if they react.

890
01:00:56.239 --> 01:01:00.559
Oh yeah, let me know if there's any action that

891
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:02.039
would be really interesting.

892
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:04.760
Wow, okay, they do.

893
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:07.239
They listened to podcasts with us, so I know that

894
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:10.719
they listen, and it's very interesting.

895
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:12.840
It wasn't until.

896
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:18.400
I I have heard of eye shine, but I never

897
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:22.360
knew exactly what it was, and you know, trying to

898
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:28.440
find pictures online wasn't very clear. And so most of

899
01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:34.280
what I've heard is red, like there's red eyeshine and

900
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:39.639
it's like reflective somehow. And I'm curious to what you think.

901
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:42.079
What is your theory on the eye shine?

902
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:50.400
So I think it's legit. I mean, there are people

903
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:54.960
I've talked to that. I mean, there's something going on

904
01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:59.760
out there. Have I ever? I base a lot off

905
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:05.119
of what I've experienced myself. I have not experienced eye

906
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:08.280
shine yet. But I'm not also a person who is

907
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:10.760
like out there all the time, like you guys are

908
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:14.920
out there, like you live in this right, I get

909
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:19.239
out maybe a few, excuse me, a few weekends a year,

910
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:23.199
you know, But I think there's something to it, definitely,

911
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:27.920
especially when people are like, you know, you've eye shine

912
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:33.239
where it was huge and the different colored eyes were

913
01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:35.719
very far away from each other, or they are very

914
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:39.119
high up. I mean, that's stuff that really makes you wonder.

915
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:48.639
So yeah, we I was like, I had asked him

916
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:49.679
if I could.

917
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:54.400
See eye shine because I'd never seen it, and so.

918
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:56.159
I started looking for and I was looking for red

919
01:02:56.199 --> 01:03:00.840
because that's what everybody said. And then one day I

920
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:03.000
felt I was being watched. And then they got a

921
01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:07.039
tug to turn around, and when I did, I saw

922
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:13.639
blue eyeshine. This was like a baby blue. It was beautiful,

923
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:19.400
and there was a big being, a medium being, and

924
01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:23.280
there were some little beans and but his this is Kai.

925
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:29.400
His eyes were like two flashlights shining towards me. I

926
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:32.599
mean they weren't shining like flashlights, but they were that

927
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:36.760
big and they were kind of set apart.

928
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:43.920
And he had the biggest eyes. And it was.

929
01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:49.000
The weirdest thing because I'm like this, I show me

930
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:50.880
and see I'm like, see, do you see that?

931
01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:53.559
And he's like looking and when he looks, just you

932
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:55.840
don't see anything. And I'm like, you don't see that.

933
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:00.360
And so the first time that we see so I

934
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:05.239
saw it, Steve didn't see it. And then the next night,

935
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:09.320
oh no, is that night we went to go to

936
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:14.239
bed and see the cats wanting to convince. So Steve

937
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:16.559
goes to look the candidate and he hears a pig

938
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:22.760
outside our house. We don't have pigs around here. So

939
01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:27.119
Steve grabs his gun and he goes down towards this

940
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:31.920
bridge that we made and he's like, who's out there?

941
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:36.360
And he's looking and he's hearing the pig noise and

942
01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:38.239
he's hearing munching like something's eating.

943
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:42.239
He's like, what is that. He's like, who's there?

944
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:48.480
And he's peering out there, and then he hears a

945
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:49.559
child cry.

946
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:56.159
And he said it was the most terrifying noises her

947
01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:02.400
a long time. And he ran he said that ain't

948
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:04.400
a kid. What is that?

949
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:10.000
And he ran in the house and he's like locking

950
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:13.559
the door. It's like something's out there, and I said,

951
01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:15.760
he said, I thought it was a pig. He said,

952
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:18.559
sound like a pig. He said that I heard a

953
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:24.280
child crying, and I was like, oh jeez, I said,

954
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:29.239
I hope it wasn't the big Foot. And so the

955
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:34.320
next night we went outside and again I get it.

956
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:38.400
The turn to look around and there's eyeshine, but it's

957
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:42.679
not blue anymore, it's amber. And then there is one

958
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:51.119
one little one with red eyes, and I'm like, okay.

959
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:53.480
I instantly.

960
01:05:55.039 --> 01:06:00.360
I knew they were perturbed, and I knew that wone

961
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:01.440
with red eyes was mad.

962
01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:05.480
And I'm like, see.

963
01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:09.480
Commune, I said, scoot down, I said, do you see

964
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:14.559
the eye shine? He's like yeah. I said, now you

965
01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:17.400
need to explain your actions from last night, because they're returned.

966
01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:23.360
So he told them that if they made that noise,

967
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:27.119
it was very good, but humans pigs are very dangerous

968
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:32.519
to humans, and he wouldn't have hurt them, but it

969
01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:34.239
was dangerous and that's.

970
01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:37.519
Why he had a gun. Oh okay.

971
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:40.599
So so Steve is actually at this point starting to

972
01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:42.519
also talk directly to them.

973
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:47.039
Yes, okay, yeah, by this, I mean he's always talked

974
01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:47.360
to them.

975
01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:49.360
He knows, he believes me. Sure, he knows.

976
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:54.599
So he's always said things to them, whether he gets

977
01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:58.880
an answer or not. But after that, the next night

978
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:01.559
we saw them, because there was a month period where

979
01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:04.000
they came every night and.

980
01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:05.159
They sat with us.

981
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:12.199
And there was one particular night it was my birthday,

982
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:15.840
and I said to you know God then before I.

983
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:17.920
Said, it's gonna be my birthday tomorrow, you better come.

984
01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:22.960
So I in the middle of the later in the night,

985
01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:27.599
they come, and I hear, I don't hear.

986
01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:30.599
I feel they're there, and I turn around.

987
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:31.559
There they are.

988
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:33.360
I get up, I go.

989
01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:36.400
Sit on the edge of the gully and I'm just

990
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:43.159
watching them. I'm asking questions. They're answering some in gestures.

991
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:49.320
And what I mean by that is I said, where

992
01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:54.440
is your mate? And he moved to the left of him,

993
01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:59.320
right next to another set of eyes, and she was

994
01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:03.800
beside him. And then I had said to him, where

995
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:06.480
is your baby? Because I knew the hand of baby.

996
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:09.480
I seen it climbing up and down the tree, and

997
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:13.920
not his eyes, not his body. I mean, I couldn't

998
01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:17.000
see in the dark, but I could see the eyes

999
01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:20.000
moving up and down the tree, not far up, just

1000
01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:23.800
a little bit, and then he'd come back down and

1001
01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:29.479
I he scooped down and picked up the baby, and

1002
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:33.199
I was like, oh man, you could see two big

1003
01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:36.600
eyes with and he must have been holding it up

1004
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:39.680
near his head because you could see these two little,

1005
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:43.880
teeny tiny eyes on the side of them, right up

1006
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:50.119
like almost to his shoulders, almost, and I could see

1007
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:52.600
the baby grabbing his face because one of his eyes

1008
01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:56.479
would disappear and then it would become And I said, okay,

1009
01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:00.640
I would love to see that baby. And as soon

1010
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:04.399
as I said that, he started walking towards me, and

1011
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:08.359
he came up the gully and he got bigger and

1012
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:10.680
bigger and bigger.

1013
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:13.319
And my pulse.

1014
01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:19.039
Was just through the roof, and he all of a

1015
01:09:19.079 --> 01:09:23.479
sudden stopped, and I knew that he knew that I

1016
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:26.960
was having a problem here, and I just said to him,

1017
01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:30.319
I'm sorry, I do really want to see the baby,

1018
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:32.520
I said, but I can't.

1019
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:34.159
I can't, You're too big.

1020
01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:44.359
And he backed up and floated away. And that was

1021
01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:50.479
that night. When I went to bed, they shared his

1022
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:55.000
mate's name, were attempted to and It was the same

1023
01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:58.760
way that I got guy's name. And her name is

1024
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:06.800
oda Alie. You can't make this up. I've never heard

1025
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:08.880
that name before in my life, but that's what they

1026
01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:13.000
showed me, the same way that the letters floating. And

1027
01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:18.239
then I knew her name, and soon I would learn

1028
01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:19.960
that she wears the pants in the house.

1029
01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:23.800
But it took me a while to.

1030
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:28.279
Acknowledge, you know, because it was always good night Kai,

1031
01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:29.199
good night Kai.

1032
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:30.920
Now it was like gad night Kai.

1033
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:36.239
And I go to all agenite babies and we wouldn't

1034
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:42.399
always remember to say good night to her, and I

1035
01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:46.560
think it kind of ticked her off because I would

1036
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.279
leave under structure. I would leave them little gifts once

1037
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:57.760
in a while, like Park rinds or Circus peanuts or

1038
01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:00.600
just little things that I stick on the nubby branches,

1039
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:03.800
just sort of like going to Costcos and getting a sample,

1040
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:05.279
not anything big.

1041
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:07.840
Never a full meal, just a snack.

1042
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:16.159
And she refused, I can until I talked to her,

1043
01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:18.199
because I'd always say, hey, Kai, I.

1044
01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:19.600
Left stuff for your kids.

1045
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:23.760
It's on that the structure and it wouldn't be touched,

1046
01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:26.159
and it wouldn't be touched and wouldn't be touched one day,

1047
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:31.560
I said, now, little Allie, if you don't mind, I've

1048
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:38.039
left things for your kids on the structure, and I'm

1049
01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:40.039
hoping that they enjoy it. The next thing I know,

1050
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:47.840
they it's gone. They's good, But they apparently I need

1051
01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:55.359
to tell her. I don't know, but I've left them

1052
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:58.479
certain things. They've left me a couple of things. And

1053
01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:04.079
they've stacked rocks around my yard too. And it's just

1054
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:09.039
like I have some gardens with rocks and around them

1055
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:11.199
in and they stack them.

1056
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:12.359
I don't know why.

1057
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:17.359
How how high are the rock stacks.

1058
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:23.000
Like three or four high? Not big, They're just uh,

1059
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:27.760
they just like to put them in a stack. And

1060
01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:33.399
it's not all the time. Sometimes I'll get the little

1061
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:38.039
piles of rocks in front of my pantry.

1062
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:44.039
Who would put that there? It just appears there.

1063
01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:47.640
Sometimes sometimes there are things that just don't make any sense.

1064
01:12:48.359 --> 01:12:50.800
How did that get there? Why is that like that?

1065
01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:52.000
I don't know.

1066
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:54.720
I don't know why they do the things they do.

1067
01:12:56.359 --> 01:13:00.439
There is no idea. I did have a I did have.

1068
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.479
Company here one time, and.

1069
01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:06.119
I told her about the big Foot, and this is

1070
01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:09.600
when they were really active, and I said to her,

1071
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:14.840
they come sometimes when we have fires, and she's like, yeah, okay.

1072
01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:16.920
So she says, well, let's have a fire and see

1073
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:17.479
if they'll come.

1074
01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:22.520
All right, So we're she's sitting closest to the pantry,

1075
01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:25.119
I'm in the middle, and then Steep on the other side,

1076
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:28.920
and we're just sitting in front of the fire. Kai

1077
01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:31.760
comes up behind the pantry snacks it.

1078
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:37.119
So hard that it vibrates to us and Jordan run

1079
01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:38.880
jumps up. She's like, what was that.

1080
01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:43.600
I said, that's Kai giving you a big welcome to

1081
01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:49.920
the neighborhood. And then she says, we're still sitting out there,

1082
01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:54.720
and she says in her mind to Kai something and

1083
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:59.159
she jumps up and screams again, and I said what

1084
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:02.039
she goes. I just asked him if, if that was him,

1085
01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:04.600
if he could give me another sign? And the porcelac

1086
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:08.960
comes on and I said, wow, how many more signs

1087
01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:11.000
do you need? Right?

1088
01:14:11.079 --> 01:14:13.640
Yeah, that's when it comes to, how many more signs

1089
01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:16.279
do you need? That? That is it? And so this

1090
01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:20.520
friend of yours was initiating mind speak at the area

1091
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:24.560
and got an immediate response that's wild. Yeah, oh my goodness.

1092
01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:28.119
That Actually that answered one of the questions I was

1093
01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:31.600
going to ask eventually, is if there are other people

1094
01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:35.600
that have experienced things on this property between besides you

1095
01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:37.479
and Steve. And it sounds like there's at least one

1096
01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:39.760
other person that has experienced stuff.

1097
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:42.199
Yeah, yeah, one other.

1098
01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:42.760
Wow.

1099
01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:48.800
I mean Steve gets more stuff now, Steve, Oh my goodness.

1100
01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:50.319
Steve was sitting outside.

1101
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:54.800
This is only a few months ago, and he was

1102
01:14:54.840 --> 01:14:56.439
just sitting there by himself.

1103
01:14:56.079 --> 01:15:01.560
Outside in the dark. Papa and I a cigar, and

1104
01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:06.640
he heard gibbery jabbery.

1105
01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:13.079
Talk and somebody walking behind him and he he's like,

1106
01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.840
I can't even explain what I heard. And I played

1107
01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:18.920
him the Sierra sounds and he's hair stied up on

1108
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:21.359
his arms. He's like, that's exactly what I heard. So

1109
01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:24.279
they do they do talk like that.

1110
01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:27.399
I mean, that is he heard it. I didn't hear that.

1111
01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:33.000
I didn't. I didn't They they don't always make noise

1112
01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:33.640
when they walk.

1113
01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:34.760
I don't know how they.

1114
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:39.039
Do it, but there's there's times that they don't care,

1115
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:41.960
and that was one of the times. So they're just

1116
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.760
strolling through the neighborhood over here, and uh. And they

1117
01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:47.920
have a lot I have a lot of activity in

1118
01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:51.680
my little gully and it's not vague, but they'd like to.

1119
01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:55.640
Hang out down there, and he.

1120
01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:57.760
Heard that and he said after they passed, he came

1121
01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:00.760
in the house. He says, they were just here.

1122
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.079
I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this. By

1123
01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:05.479
the way you guys are handling this, But have you

1124
01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:09.520
ever had any researchers come out and try to see

1125
01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:10.239
what's going on?

1126
01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:12.119
No?

1127
01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:15.840
Yeah, no, they recommend you.

1128
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:18.439
No, I don't.

1129
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:19.319
I don't.

1130
01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:23.319
I mean, it's their life. I don't want to invade.

1131
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:26.359
And they're willing to share certain things with me and

1132
01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:29.880
interact with me, that's cool, but I don't want to

1133
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:35.880
publicize them. I wrote the story because they were okay

1134
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:36.319
with it.

1135
01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:39.239
You know, I've read them.

1136
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:40.560
I had.

1137
01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:44.640
I started writing my journal entries and then I started

1138
01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:48.720
giving them to Leslie to read on Crypto Canada and

1139
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:52.399
they were okay with listening to them on there. So

1140
01:16:52.520 --> 01:16:56.279
I knew that they were fine with me telling the story.

1141
01:16:56.600 --> 01:17:00.359
Okay, okay, gotcha. So there was That's that. How you

1142
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:04.960
knew is when you would then play those episodes on

1143
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:07.720
YouTube and then they would react and you're like, okay,

1144
01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:09.640
this is okay for it to be out there.

1145
01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:16.319
Then yeah, no, they they to me feel okay with it.

1146
01:17:16.359 --> 01:17:19.560
They're not okay with me taking their picture. I have

1147
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:24.960
tried to get footage of them in the gully and

1148
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:27.159
you could see them plane as day and why wouldn't

1149
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:31.239
the video camera pick it up? But they have control

1150
01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:31.960
over those eyes.

1151
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:32.920
I don't know what they do.

1152
01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:36.600
But when I put that video camera down there, I

1153
01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:37.600
can't see it through.

1154
01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:38.479
The video.

1155
01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:43.239
When so I would assume there have been times when

1156
01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:46.319
you've tried to get footage and then it just doesn't work.

1157
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.399
But is there something else that appears? Is it like

1158
01:17:50.039 --> 01:17:53.319
is there like is blurry or or anything like that?

1159
01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:55.399
Sometimes?

1160
01:17:55.439 --> 01:18:05.560
Oh yeah, I had a Well yeah, we haven't got

1161
01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:06.840
it there yet, so I'm not going to go there.

1162
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:10.560
But I have.

1163
01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:14.239
I have been very honest with what I'm doing because

1164
01:18:14.319 --> 01:18:16.399
I'm not trying to exploit them.

1165
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:20.520
Do you want want me to can? I? Can? I

1166
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:21.079
do it?

1167
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:26.520
Because my family thinks I'm insane and they just can't

1168
01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:28.000
wrap their head around it.

1169
01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:28.760
Yeah.

1170
01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:31.279
And it's a lot to wrap your head around it,

1171
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:34.760
I mean, especially me coming out with these stories and

1172
01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:37.119
they're like, yeah, okay, okay, Sis.

1173
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.159
Have they been out there though yet? Though?

1174
01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:43.520
No?

1175
01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:45.039
Yeah, well there you go.

1176
01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:51.920
Right, No, they were in Massachusetts, so right, Yeah, they're

1177
01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:56.680
not coming out here, so I go home once in

1178
01:18:56.680 --> 01:19:03.520
a while. But yeah, they make theyke copy noises. They

1179
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:08.600
make noises like like you heard the pig, they make

1180
01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:17.079
the owl, they make cows, and honest to god, they

1181
01:19:17.119 --> 01:19:18.439
make baby elephants.

1182
01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:23.279
I've heard that before. I've heard people describe that it's

1183
01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:28.119
like half elephant, half like lion tiger roar.

1184
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:33.279
Yeah. No, this was definitely a little trumpet noise. And

1185
01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:34.520
I was sleeping.

1186
01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:39.319
They woke me up doing this and I I said,

1187
01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:42.520
what is that? So of course that instantly wakes you up.

1188
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:46.239
And I'm listening and I hear it again and I'm like,

1189
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:51.039
that sounds like a baby out sad. And then it

1190
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:55.960
occurs to me that it's them, and I said, if

1191
01:19:55.960 --> 01:19:58.640
that's you, can you do it again? Here it comes again,

1192
01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:01.119
and I was like, that's pretty cool.

1193
01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:01.840
Good job.

1194
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:08.760
But we have heard some very scary screams over here.

1195
01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:13.199
There is When we first got here, we didn't we

1196
01:20:13.239 --> 01:20:16.359
thought the cows were sick or something. They would be

1197
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:22.159
a long, moaning cow noise with a scream at the

1198
01:20:22.239 --> 01:20:25.680
end of it, and it was like, Steve, maybe we

1199
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:28.279
should go look something's wrong with the cow.

1200
01:20:30.479 --> 01:20:35.760
And one night we were coming in and we heard this.

1201
01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:41.920
I'll tell you those noises were hard to describe.

1202
01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:48.720
It was a loud, low moan.

1203
01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:55.319
Yell, very strange. Steve says to me he probably about

1204
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:58.800
a mile away and was super loud. And I see.

1205
01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:01.359
He says, you think that's high, and I said, I

1206
01:21:01.359 --> 01:21:03.159
don't know. I said, I can try to ask him.

1207
01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:09.439
So I'm like, hi, is that you? And I get

1208
01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:14.119
in bed. I'm laying there and my vision buzzes away

1209
01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:16.239
and I am in the woods.

1210
01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:18.239
I'm on a cliff.

1211
01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:24.119
And I'm looking down into a valley kind of thing,

1212
01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:30.600
and there's a turkey stumbling around in the night and

1213
01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:34.680
I'm looking at it and I'm like, I'm in it again.

1214
01:21:35.880 --> 01:21:39.279
And I'm like, oh, I got to stay longer this time.

1215
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:46.119
And I'm it was just he's hunting. He's hunting, and

1216
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:51.479
I'm like, oh my goodness. And he jumps off of

1217
01:21:51.560 --> 01:21:57.640
this cliff to go down to the bottom, and I

1218
01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:00.319
put a leg up to go with him because I'm like,

1219
01:22:00.319 --> 01:22:04.800
I'm staying. As soon as I did, I woke, the

1220
01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:10.960
vision was gone, but it was the coolest thing, and

1221
01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:13.640
I was I was like, Steve, that was him. You're

1222
01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:19.039
not going to believe this, and then I told him, wow, but.

1223
01:22:19.439 --> 01:22:22.439
I was like it was I was so in it.

1224
01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:27.279
I was right there with him, and I'm like, that's this.

1225
01:22:28.680 --> 01:22:33.199
I don't know how to stay longer, to absorb to.

1226
01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:35.479
I don't know.

1227
01:22:37.159 --> 01:22:40.439
It's some of the things they show me are super cool.

1228
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:47.039
The night of my birthday, I was walking back to

1229
01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:50.880
the bed and my vision clouded there while I'm walking

1230
01:22:52.199 --> 01:22:55.880
and it's dark and I'm seeing in night vision and

1231
01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:59.960
I'm seeing the gully and I can see everywhere again,

1232
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:04.039
and he says to me, if you want to meet me,

1233
01:23:04.479 --> 01:23:12.359
come down here, and Jeremiah, the fear came back. I

1234
01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:16.760
wanted to meet him so bad. I was so afraid.

1235
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:19.479
I'm like, you know, I want to meet you, big guy,

1236
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:22.840
but I'm still afraid. I said, I am going to

1237
01:23:22.920 --> 01:23:24.800
need a lot of camming entergies if I'm going to

1238
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:25.239
see you.

1239
01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:28.600
I'm so sorry. I can't. I can't do it.

1240
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:33.880
So I did not go down there because in my

1241
01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:36.600
mind I've always envisioned Steve being with me when I

1242
01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:41.279
saw them, and they didn't want it that way.

1243
01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:42.720
That's not the way it happened.

1244
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:48.920
Why do you think they wanted you without Steve I

1245
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:51.079
don't know, Yeah, that's I.

1246
01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:54.760
Don't I don't know if it's because I have, you know,

1247
01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:59.199
the sensitivity, don't. I don't know if that's it, or

1248
01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:04.319
I don't know. I wonder this myself. I mean, I've

1249
01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:08.359
got theories, but I don't know.

1250
01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:11.000
It doesn't feel like they're trying to separate you guys.

1251
01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:14.119
Sometimes I talk to people and it is blatantly obvious

1252
01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:18.119
that they're trying to separate people on the property and

1253
01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:24.079
get people alone. But this doesn't sound really negative.

1254
01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:26.439
You know, yeah, you know.

1255
01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:29.039
I mean we've had our own, you know, as of now,

1256
01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:34.439
we've had our own experiences. And just recently, Steve came in.

1257
01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:38.600
I went out to go give the dogs some water,

1258
01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:44.680
and when he came, he came running back in and

1259
01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:46.560
his face is white, and I said, what's wrong.

1260
01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:50.520
He goes, I heard a pop and they started laughing.

1261
01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:54.159
I said, you heard a pop? He goes, Now, he said,

1262
01:24:54.439 --> 01:25:02.399
this was echoy pop, like right next to me. He said,

1263
01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:04.479
I felt like there was something on top of any

1264
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:05.680
kind of thing. It was.

1265
01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:08.840
It was right there, like it was in my ear.

1266
01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:13.199
And he can't lying in And I don't know if

1267
01:25:13.199 --> 01:25:18.039
they do that just to screw with them. They're always

1268
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:20.560
I think, trying to mess with Steve because they think

1269
01:25:20.600 --> 01:25:23.960
it's funny, and I can I can feel when they

1270
01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:30.560
think it's funny. But I'm trying to think if there's

1271
01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:39.720
anything else WU are weird that in a second that

1272
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:45.039
we uh have not talked about yet. I mean, I

1273
01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:48.520
have so many more stories, but I'm.

1274
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:51.520
Trying to get it sounds like it happens all the time,

1275
01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:53.800
and so you're saying like this stuff is happening up

1276
01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:54.600
to current day.

1277
01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:58.199
It sounds like, yeah, stuff still happens.

1278
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:01.760
It's not like it was because since then we have

1279
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:06.640
We were in a tent and then we moved into

1280
01:26:07.199 --> 01:26:12.119
the cabin and now we have a tiny house which

1281
01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:15.600
you know has a is a house now, so we're

1282
01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:20.880
in in somewhere, so it's not.

1283
01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:25.239
The whole situation is different. We don't go sit outside.

1284
01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:28.319
We sit on the porch, you know, so there's not

1285
01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:32.359
the same opportunities. I mean, they can still spy on

1286
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:34.600
us that they want to. There's plenty of the woods round.

1287
01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:37.880
But you know, I really thought when I moved into

1288
01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:40.760
the big house because we don't curtains, that they were

1289
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:45.000
going to be peaking. But I have not seen them

1290
01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:48.319
peak and if they do, we're sleeping. I have not

1291
01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:55.279
seen signs of them anywhere in that sense. Now, I

1292
01:26:55.359 --> 01:26:59.640
did have just recently, we had a pile of bricks

1293
01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:04.399
that were stabbed in a certain area and they were

1294
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:09.000
dragged into the middle of the cart road, like probably

1295
01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:10.079
one hundred pounds of breaks.

1296
01:27:10.319 --> 01:27:10.680
Wow.

1297
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:17.640
Yeah, I don't know why. You know, sometimes I just

1298
01:27:17.680 --> 01:27:20.000
go why why did you do that?

1299
01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:26.159
And we did see some some footage prints there nothing

1300
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:30.279
too right home to mom about, but and I have

1301
01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:36.479
I have some some weird pictures, but to me it

1302
01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:40.199
doesn't look like the ones that are going around the internet,

1303
01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:44.000
so I never show them to anybody and just document.

1304
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:45.800
Kind of Sandy, I think you're doing one of the

1305
01:27:45.800 --> 01:27:48.560
most important things that people can do in this situation,

1306
01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:52.600
which is that you're keeping a journal. And that is

1307
01:27:54.039 --> 01:27:56.399
one of the most important things that a person can

1308
01:27:56.439 --> 01:27:59.680
do because you're able to look back on that journal,

1309
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:02.560
were able to make connections that you probably would have

1310
01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:05.439
forgotten about most people would have forgotten about, And that

1311
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:09.000
is just such the important thing to do. And I'm

1312
01:28:09.039 --> 01:28:12.079
glad that you're doing. And I led to your book,

1313
01:28:12.279 --> 01:28:14.239
you know, My Journey with a big Foot named Kai,

1314
01:28:14.279 --> 01:28:15.680
which is incredible.

1315
01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:21.680
You know, most of that is in chronological order of

1316
01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:23.199
how it all happened.

1317
01:28:22.920 --> 01:28:25.920
And of course, you know, it's a book, so there's

1318
01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:28.640
some stories in there about our living off grade stuff.

1319
01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:32.880
Oh sure, but there's also lots of.

1320
01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:37.119
You know, thought in there because it's it's like I

1321
01:28:37.159 --> 01:28:39.000
did think I was going insane, and I thought I

1322
01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:44.279
was going crazy, and it was definitely things happening that

1323
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:45.880
I just didn't understand.

1324
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:53.680
I had a few dreams from them. I had one.

1325
01:28:55.079 --> 01:29:01.600
That I saw in my dream the chicken coop and

1326
01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:07.000
a raccoon that was being drop kicked away from it.

1327
01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:07.920
Drop kicked.

1328
01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:13.079
Yeah, wow, Yeah, raccoon was being drop kicked by them.

1329
01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:16.319
Yeah, and they were keeping them away from the chickens.

1330
01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:24.439
And I didn't realize that it was a warning they

1331
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:27.840
were warning me. It wasn't but a few days later

1332
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:30.239
that the raccoon got in the chicken coop and killed

1333
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:31.039
my favorite chicken.

1334
01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:36.960
Oh my m sorry sorry, yeah.

1335
01:29:37.399 --> 01:29:42.279
Yeah, it was very sad. But they do, I see,

1336
01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:45.880
but I don't know what they're telling me. Sometimes they

1337
01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:49.239
sent me a vision. One time I had no clue

1338
01:29:49.239 --> 01:29:53.760
what it meant. They sent me a clue of my dumpster.

1339
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:57.439
We had this Lincoln log dumpster that we made, and

1340
01:29:58.199 --> 01:30:05.000
from the Lincoln log dumpster coming three eggs at me, floating, floating,

1341
01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:06.199
three eggs at me.

1342
01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:08.560
And of course I wake.

1343
01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:11.239
Up in the middle of these floating eggs, and I'm like,

1344
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:14.640
what does that mean? Do you want three eggs? I

1345
01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:17.760
didn't get it, and I mean, I put three eggs

1346
01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:20.000
on the dumpster. I thought, maybe, yes, what they want.

1347
01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:24.119
I put the eggs out there, and they didn't touch them.

1348
01:30:24.359 --> 01:30:27.720
And I have a lady that has interactions with Bigfoot,

1349
01:30:28.399 --> 01:30:34.039
and she told me that what I think is happening

1350
01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:34.600
over there.

1351
01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:38.359
She says, what I think is what they're trying to

1352
01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:39.800
tell you is.

1353
01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:44.279
That when you made your dumpster, you know, I would

1354
01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:50.960
that there must have been a nest that perished in

1355
01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:53.239
the tree, you know, like you cut it down, the

1356
01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:58.439
eggs died, little birds whatever. And I said, I said,

1357
01:30:58.479 --> 01:31:00.319
you know, it's really funny. I said, we did find

1358
01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:03.119
one nest. I said, but we didn't see anything in it.

1359
01:31:04.439 --> 01:31:07.199
And so I said, the eggs went flying, we killed,

1360
01:31:07.199 --> 01:31:13.199
the eggs were murders. And she said, oh no, She said,

1361
01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:17.920
take a pinch of to not go and go out

1362
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:23.239
there and sprinkle it on the dumpster, she said, and

1363
01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:28.439
ask for your forgiveness. Just said that you're sorry and.

1364
01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:31.399
That you you you didn't mean to do this, and

1365
01:31:31.479 --> 01:31:34.479
that we're setting you free kind of thing.

1366
01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:39.520
I guess, well, I said that, Oh okay, so I

1367
01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:43.399
did that, and I never got a vision like that again.

1368
01:31:43.560 --> 01:31:48.520
So I think whatever I did appease them. And but

1369
01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:50.279
it makes me wonder different things.

1370
01:31:50.399 --> 01:31:53.680
You know, It's like, okay, but you guys eat eggs.

1371
01:31:55.640 --> 01:31:56.159
I don't know.

1372
01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:01.439
But there's a lot a lot of more questions sometimes

1373
01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:02.239
than there is an answer.

1374
01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:05.000
Oh, that's really what it comes down to. But it

1375
01:32:05.159 --> 01:32:08.760
feels like you guys have the right mindset, the right intentions,

1376
01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:14.000
and you're going about living on a property with a

1377
01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:16.439
family like this the right way and you're trying to

1378
01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:20.319
learn through it and communication and it's just it's a

1379
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:25.680
really really amazing account. And Sandy, I know there's there's

1380
01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:28.279
going to be other things that happen, and you know,

1381
01:32:28.319 --> 01:32:31.560
I would love to keep up to date with you.

1382
01:32:32.359 --> 01:32:37.359
There is a thing though, as you know, I'm going

1383
01:32:37.359 --> 01:32:40.359
through the cancer thing, and I do have an appointment

1384
01:32:40.399 --> 01:32:44.560
coming up today. So it is at the point where

1385
01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:48.159
you know, maybe we'll we'll do do a pause for

1386
01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:52.560
now and perhaps check in later in the future if

1387
01:32:52.600 --> 01:32:54.600
you would be up for it, because this is a

1388
01:32:55.479 --> 01:32:57.960
this is one of the most fascinating accounts I've I've heard,

1389
01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:00.640
and you know, I'll have the link to your book

1390
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:04.479
in the description so people can can read it.

1391
01:33:07.039 --> 01:33:08.680
Encounter Jeremiah, Oh my.

1392
01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:09.560
Gosh, are you kidding me?

1393
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:11.119
Oh?

1394
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:14.640
You can pause it.

1395
01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:16.800
Again later.

1396
01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:20.560
Okay, yeah, do you mind if we I didn't even

1397
01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:24.000
realize none of that is what you encounter considered the encounter.

1398
01:33:25.880 --> 01:33:26.960
I actually saw them.

1399
01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:31.159
Goodness, Okay, we totally got Can we set up a

1400
01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:35.960
part two for this? I apologize. I just it's a

1401
01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:39.760
really important appointment and you know what it is, all

1402
01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:44.920
that stuff. Okay, so this is this is the craziest

1403
01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:47.479
cliffhangarut that I've ever had to do. So we will

1404
01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:50.720
set up a part two and then get you back

1405
01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:53.760
on as soon as we can and that works with

1406
01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:55.680
your schedule and go.

1407
01:33:56.680 --> 01:33:59.840
Okay, Sandy, yeah, when you feel better, Jeremiah.

1408
01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:01.600
Okay, absolutely, thank you so much.

1409
01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:06.760
You're welcome. See ya.

1410
01:34:06.920 --> 01:34:09.239
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1411
01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:12.479
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1412
01:34:12.520 --> 01:34:16.279
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1413
01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:19.159
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1414
01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:22.439
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1415
01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:25.880
to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something

1416
01:34:25.960 --> 01:34:28.880
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

1417
01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:32.880
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you've stumbled

1418
01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:35.760
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

1419
01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:39.359
you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

1420
01:34:39.399 --> 01:34:43.039
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If

1421
01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:46.720
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1422
01:34:46.880 --> 01:34:49.880
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1423
01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:53.399
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1424
01:34:53.399 --> 01:34:57.279
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1425
01:34:57.319 --> 01:35:00.760
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to to report.

1426
01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:03.680
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1427
01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:07.199
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1428
01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:11.000
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

1429
01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:14.399
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1430
01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:19.239
then I want to talk to you. Even if it's anonymous,

1431
01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:24.520
you can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

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We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

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Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

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bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

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is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the

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if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting,

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please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

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at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

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the conversation. If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check

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out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society

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podcast dot com and that's where you can hear tomorrow's

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episode today early in ad free and members only episodes

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every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other

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people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

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you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

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Society until next time, Keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

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and never stop asking what else might be out there?

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And see you in the woods.