July 30, 2026

Towering Sasquatch Terrifies Super Dave in Saginaw Eddy Bottoms, Arkansas

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Season 1

For over 52 years, Super Dave has experienced some of the most intense Sasquatch encounters imaginable. His journey began as a 12-year-old boy in the Saginaw Eddy Bottoms of Arkansas when he came face to face with an enormous hairy figure standing only a few feet away along the Ouachita River. That single encounter changed the course of his life.


In this episode, Super Dave shares his terrifying first sighting, repeated encounters across Arkansas, massive footprints, tree knocks, bluff charges, eye shine, thermal observations, gifting experiences, and years spent researching active Sasquatch habitat. He also discusses the family group he calls "Big Eddie," nighttime investigations in the Ozark Mountains, strange disappearances on thermal imaging, and the lessons he's learned after decades of encounters.


If you're interested in firsthand Sasquatch encounters, long-term field experience, and one witness's incredible journey through the Arkansas woods, this is an episode you won't want to miss.

Resources:

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link in the show notes. Thank you, I pick the Society.

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You got the privilege of talking to mister super Dave

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aka Sasquatch. It's the individual that I have been wanting

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to get on the show. As we just were talking about.

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He's on the list, but the list is long and

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he actually reached out as well, so hey worked out

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for the best. So a few things about yourself, super Dave.

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You've been having encounters for over fifty two years now

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and sharing them is part of this next road in

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life that God has you on, which is pretty awesome.

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So welcome to the show, sir. How are you doing today.

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I'm doing well, doing well. I appreciate you having us

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on here.

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Absolutely, It's always always a good day when we were

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able to talk to someone about Bigfoot and how it's

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affected them, and man, I have a feeling we've got

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a lot to talk about. So when I have an

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individual on that that has so many years, so many years,

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is there an experience that gave you the name super

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Dave or do we actually need to go further back

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than when you got the name super Dave to get

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the whole story.

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Yeah. I got named super Dave in high school and

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it was kind of three guys were beating up on

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one and I jumped over this big embankment and so

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there was like, man, you look like Superman. So the

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Super Dave stuff, But that was way after my first encounter.

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You know, my first encounter was in nineteen seventy four thereabouts.

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I believe it was the spring. There's a lot that

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led up to this encounter. You know, of course, you

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didn't have internet back then. With no cell phones, you know,

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it was hard to even take video or even much

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less take a picture. And I grew up in a

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poor family and we lived out on the river and

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here in Arkansas and Saginaw, Arkansas, and where I had

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my first encounter was the Saginaw Eddie Bottoms and I

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used to hunt fish and trap. You know. It wasn't

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real safe for me be in the house sometimes when

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my dad was gone. So I chose to go to

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the woods. And I love the woods. That's the only

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place I feel just you know, I can get out

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and people need to, you know, and they need to

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quiet their minds, especially if they want to hear from

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their God. Just being out of the woods, sitting there

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and listening to the breeze, you know, listening to the birds, chirt,

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the crickets, the frogs, all that kind of stuff. It

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just closed off everything in your world and talk to

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your God. So that started me out on just really

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loving the woods and I hunt fish trap, you know.

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But leading into my encounter was I had this one

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spot down in the Saginaw Eddy Bottoms and you got

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the wash Tall River and you got a lot of

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creeks running in the washing tall river. You got a

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bunch of bious back in there swamped areas? Why not?

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And uh, I always, like I said, I hunt fishing

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trap So that morning when I was getting up, well,

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listen back up just a little bit. I always ran

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a trap line. I had about seven little steel traps,

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and I would sell hides what not. And uh, I

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noticed that my traps were being either disappearing or disappearing,

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or uh they were sprung. They'd have a stick at them.

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So I figured there was somebody down there messing with

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my traps. In the trap bait is where I first

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started picking up. And then my traps are being stung sprung.

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But my grandpa taught me to take catch a bunch

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of fits, take a bunch of uh fish and put

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them in a jar and in a mason jar, and

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then bury them by a foot in the dirt. And

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then when it comes, when it comes, when it comes

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fall time for trapping season, you dug that bade up

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and it would stink to I heavn's I mean it

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was it was make you throw up type stuff. But

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it was real good for fish. And I mean that

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fish is real good for trapping. And so I would

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take my trap bait, and I would take it down there.

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And I didn't either put it in a hollow log,

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because you didn't want to carry this stuff all the time,

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just in case of glass broke. You wanted to transport

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it one time, and one time only until after trap season.

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Then I just pull it up, dump it out, and

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then bring it on back and use the jars next year.

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So I put it up in a you know, a

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fork of a tree under you know, in a hollow

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log underneath you know by uh, covered up with leaves

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by a rock or something. But I noticed that, uh,

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something started getting into my trap bait. Now I didn't

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know anything about tree knocks. I didn't know anything about woops.

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I didn't know anything about tree structures. Now I saw

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these things. I heard a bunch of tree knocks down there,

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and saw some structures. Now that I know what I

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know today. And I told my dad, I said, Daddy,

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I said there's something down there and in bottoms. I

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don't know what it is, but it's making all kinds

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of rackets and beating on trees and stuff. And he said,

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he said, son, it's a bear. And of course how

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many times we heard that. But in this part of Arkansas.

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Back then, there were no bears down in this area.

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There is now, but this was, you know, the early

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seventies when all this took place. And when I finally

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found some tracks, and I told my dad, hey, you

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need to come down here and see these tracks. This

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is what's making all that racket down there. You know,

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I'm just a little kid, And so finally I talked

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to him into going down there. And when he saw

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the tracks, they were about fourteen inches long because there

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was a lot bigger in my dad's boot because he

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put his boot down there beside it. But the interesting

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you think it only had three toes. And I've heard

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of different people finding three toe tracks, but it had

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three toes, which really knocked us both off. You know,

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what the heck can this be? So my daddy turned

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to me and he says, you know this ain't no where.

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He said, you need to keep out in these woods.

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I said, Dad, is my best squirrel hunting spot. And

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I said my fishing spot's over there as well, so

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I ain't giving up these woods. And he said, well,

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if you come down here in these woods, I'm gonna

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tear your butt up. Now, my dad didn't beat us,

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but if we need a butt whooping, well he knew

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to how to distribute that to us. So what I

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had to do was is I would always get up

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with him breakfast time, especially in the summertime. I'd eat

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breakfast with him, and then i'd hit the woods. I'd

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grabbed my little zep Co thirty three and my little

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tackle box, my single shot twenty two. I'd always hit

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the woods and be gone all day. So Daddy had

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to work on Saturday morning. It was squirrel season, spring

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squirrel season. We used to have a spring squirrel season here,

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and I told him, I said, well, I'm gonna go

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squirrel hunt. And I didn't tell him where I was going,

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but I toldt him I was going squirrel hunting. So

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when I got ready, I grabbed my Zepco thirty three,

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my tackle box, and my single shot twenty two rifle

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of Marlin or Stevens. It wasn't a very expensive one,

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and then I went. When I was heading out the door,

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I reached over in the there on the stove, and

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there's some biscuits left over from that morning's breakfast, and

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I grabbed some biscuits and then I went out to

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the back room of the house, and that's where we

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kept our freezers. But we killed hogs every year, you know,

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we poured, we went to we went to town about

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once a month, you know, to buy a flyer sugar coffee,

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you know, just the bare necessities because we grew everything

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on this farm. And so there was five gallon buckets

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full of hogs, skins and cracklings. So I stuffed them

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biscuits and my little squirrel best and then I put

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some cracklings off in my pocket and I hit the woods. Well,

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leaving out the house, you have to get down to

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this place. I waited till Daddy left and I I

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had to walk across this big pastor that entered the

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woods where I usually squirrel hunted. And I noticed because

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there was woods to the side of me, but the

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big part was way up in front of me. And

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I was walking across this pastor, pretty close to the woods,

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and I noticed there was nothing happening. Now, usually you

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know it was misty that or not misty. It was

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foggy that morning, but the fog was beginning to you know, epicipate.

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But I noticed an uncomfortable feeling. I guess it is

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about the way I could put it, because the woods

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were all silent. There would be sometimes prior to this

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this morning that you know, everything shut off just like that.

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I mean birds nothing. Of course, I know now when

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that happens there's generally a large predator in the area.

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I didn't know that when I was getting it. Be like, wow,

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what happened? You know? I just going about my way

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once while you could, you could take a woof of uh,

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it smelled like urine and a real musky garbage type smell.

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You'd smell that air and down in there. I told

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my daddy about smell, and he said, no, it's just

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nothing but a bears. Daddy, ain't no bears down there.

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So I had an uneasy feeling that morning in my stomach.

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I couldn't put my finger on it. There was just

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something that wouldn't off. There was something that was off.

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And so I got up to the edge of the

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barb wire fence to get into these woods, and I

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cut off to the right and go down to the

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creek and then go all the way down the creek

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to the bayou where the wash Stow River backed up.

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And I stood there for a minute just kind of

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looking around because it was so quiet you could have

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heard a pin drop, and I mean it was just

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just something was out of place and I couldn't quite

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put my finger on it. So I started slipping of

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the woods, which was real easy because it was kind

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of like there was some good hardwood trees in there

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on the pine needles. You could just slip through the woods,

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you know. So I started easing through the woods. By

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this time, you know, I've got that you know, my

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stomach's kind of, you know, feeling a little bit queasy.

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So I got about halfway down there to where the

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creek was, and so I just kind of backed up

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to a pine tree and just kind of slid down

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and set there for a minute because I wasn't really

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feeling that gray. And I pulled out a biscuit and

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put a bunch of cracklings in there, and I was

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chewing on that biscuit with cracklings and a few hawkskins.

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So I sat there for a little bit. Now by

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this time, I've already got you know, six or eight squirrels.

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I mean, I'm almost tagged out when I get to

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this place, and they ain't a squirrel bark, and they

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ain't a crow calling. There's not no blue jays. Of course,

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we used to have a lot of blue jay's back then.

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We don't have any blue jays. You know. There was

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noise in the woods and this was I mean you

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could barely hear the wind blowing. I mean it was

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quiet quiet. So I sat there for a little bit,

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kind of you know, my head's on a swivel by

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this time, because something's not good. And so I made

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my way down to the creek. Now, two weeks before this,

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there was a tornader come down through there and it

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laid over one of my favorite oak trees. I mean,

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this sucker was huge, huge, and it laid it over

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that creek. So my head's on a swivel. I'm not

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feeling that great because something was off. So I went

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on down the creek and I saw that tree had

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blowed over. This was a huge oak tree, and so

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the top of it was on my side, and then

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the rest of the tree was over the creek and

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it was just right there where it drops off into

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the bayou. And that was my place to fish. So

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I got my and my left hand, I got my

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tackle box and my zep Co thirty three and on

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my right hand. I've got my my rifle, my twenty

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two rifle. So I had to go around the top

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of that tree, you know, And so I'm still I'm

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still in stealth mode. I'm stealthing around, you know. I'm

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looking here, and you got to go up over a

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little bankment then the creek drop down there. So when

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I started getting up to that embankment, something caught my

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eye over here, and I'm kind of looking a little bit,

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you know, in the tree top. I thought it was

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a squirrel or something. As I'm walking up this hill.

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When I get almost to the top of this hill,

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you know, I went, I just turned and looked straight

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in front of me, and just to the left of

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me is where he was standing. Now, I don't know

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what a big foot is. I don't know what a

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feral human is. I don't know what a hybrid is,

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and these things I've dealt with after this. But I'm like,

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I'm just froze, you know, I'm just I mean, it

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was like it felt like a boat to light and

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it went through my body. Now my mind's telling me

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to scream, I mean telling me to run, screaming at

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me run, and with my free man. They were concreted

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to the ground. I could not move. I was just

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pet petrified. And he's looking at me, and I'm looking

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at him, and he was about as surprised as I was.

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My mouth was open, his mouth was open, and he

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was clicking his teeth, clicking his teeth like that at me.

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And he had one hand, his right hand. He was

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standing about knee deep water and his hand was in

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the water and he was flopping his hand like this

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in the water real fast. It was shooting ripples out.

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I could see that kind of liking my preferle because

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I never lost eye contact with this thing. And he

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reared back and let out the most powerful scream I

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think I've ever heard in my life. Now, I've heard

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decent Rascal scream. I've had a bluff charge me, I've

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had him do everything in the world, but nothing as

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powerful as this one. This one reminded me of an

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old cartoon when something big would be hollering at something

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real little, and their hair be all blowing behind them,

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their skin be moving and stuff. I mean this, when

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he screamed, it literally vibrated everything in my body. I

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mean everything shook, and you could feel I could literally

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feel that screen hitting me, and of course it being

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a twelve year old boy to hit my bladder and

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everything cut loose right there, and we sat there. I

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was just pacified, and we're sitting there, standing each other,

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and it was a very quick encounter, but it seemed

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like it took a man years. And he ended up

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reaching back with his left hand and coming across and

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he caught water like that and threw it up in

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my face. This is how how close to that encounter is.

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And when that water hit my face, it was like

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everything come back into focus because soon as I saw him.

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The best way I could put it is, it's kind

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of like, I don't know if you've ever been a

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gun by or combat or anything like that. What happened

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to me was everything went tunnel vision and it was

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kind of like my ears. Everything went quiet in my ears,

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and you know, everything was totally infocused, and my adrenaline

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is just dumping, dumping, dumping, And when he splashed that

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water in my face, that's when I took off running.

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Now evidently I didn't know it, but I dropped my

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tackle box and my fishing pole instead of running, instead

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of walking or running around the top of that tree.

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I ran through it. Now, I had my twenty two

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in my hand all this time, but never realized it

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was even in my hand. I didn't even know I

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dropped my tackle box till I was back home. So

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I split through the woods, plowed through that top of

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that tree. You know. I had scrapes, blood running everywhere,

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running through the briers. When I got to the barb

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bar fence, I just dove through through the middle, you know,

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and I got all scraped up on my back and

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on my chest. I rolled and I hit that pasture

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and I ran as fast as a twelve year old

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kid could run. And when I got to the house,

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I just collapsed. I just rolled boom, knocked the breath

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out of me. And I'm sitting there trying to get air.

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And my grandpa was coming in from the from the barn.

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He had two cans gallon cans, ten cans of milk,

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so he had been out milking the cow. So when

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he come up to me, he said, boy, what's wrong

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with you? What's wrong with you? And he see I

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couldn't catch my breath, so he grabbed my belt in

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the center and pulled me up automatically. Caught my breath

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and I said, there's a monster down in their Grandpa, there's

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a monster in their woods. And he told me, he says,

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he says, I told you, boy, there was a haint

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down there. Now he called it a haint, and uh,

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he said, there's a haint down there. I told you

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that haint was. I told you not to go down there.

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That haint's going to take off a you. We ain't

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never gonna see you again. You going down there again.

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I was like, no, I said, there's a monster down there.

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And what I didn't realize is my grandfather had also

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had bigfoot encounters throughout his life. You know, we grew

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up poor. He was in his early twenties, maybe late teens,

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and he been working since he was knee high, you know,

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chopping cotton and all that kind of stuff. And he

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was born in nineteen o two, I believe. And he

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said when he was an Idaho, he was a tree

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topper and he would he was the skinny guy that

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go up and cuts the tops out of these trees.

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This ain't chainsaw, This is crosscut sauce. And sometimes he'd

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have one guy on one side, him on the other

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and they're using this big crosscut saw to cut the

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tops out of the trees. Most dangerous thing and logging

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back then anyways, and he said he could see them

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watching them in the woods because he was way up

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in the air, you know, and these these uh he

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first thought there were bears running around until he got

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a good look. But one day one a person in

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his camp took a pop shot at one. He never

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said if they hit it or not, but that guy

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come back and say, hey, man, you know I saw this.

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This ain't no bear. I don't know what this is,

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you know, giant Harry monster, and and I had to

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shoot at it. So that night in camp, there was

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several of them come into camp that night once once

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everybody was asleep, and they literally tore that camp down.

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And the only only person that got hurt in that

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was the guy that pulled the trigger. Now tell me,

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nobody can't tell me that these things ain't smart at all,

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because I've seen them do some some far out stuff.

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So that was my first encounter. Of course. You know,

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Grandpa told Dad, I got my butt tore up. And

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then I told Daddy my fishing post down there, and

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he's like, well, go get it. I was like, oh,

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come with me. So Daddy ended up going down there

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and my fishing pole was laying there. The tackle box

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was open, and there was lures kind of scattered around,

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hooks and stuff, and there was some lures even gone,

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so I guess he went through my tackle box just

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kind of looking around and what not. And then you

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could see the tracks. Of course, nobody knew nothing about

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casting back then, and you could see the tracks. Daddy

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saw them fourteen in tracks with them three toes. He said, boy,

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you're in for it. So, I mean that was my

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first encounter and and it kind of just man, it

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really messed me up. I mean that was probably my

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first almost my first taste of PTSD, and it really

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shook me up. And then, uh, that.

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Was if I asked some questions about that encounter, super Dap,

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you bet awesome.

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Man.

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I can't imagine a child of that age going through

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something like that. Uh, it sounds like it's very very

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close to you. Do you have any idea from your

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memory of how tall it was?

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I must say it because it stood a tall. I

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mean it was above me and I was up on

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the bank and then the correct went down. So he

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was kind of above me if we were seeing eye

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to eye. So if I had to guess, he was

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probably eight foot tall, okay, and its teeth look like

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they were like look like horse teeth. It was big

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block either wasn't no canines because he was clacking his

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teeth at me. Kind of looked like he was kind

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of smiling. I don't know if that was a smile

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or not.

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So man, that that's really interesting. That's come up not

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a lot on the show, but once or twice. And

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I think I've had a discussion with a witness before

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where it makes you wonder because when you so this

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is all like, you know, do we know what it is? No,

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we don't. But if we're dealing with something that has

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a primate background, when you see them smile at you,

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that's not the same thing as when a human smiles,

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that means something way different. It could be a threatening thing,

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I believe, But how how wide across would would you

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say it was.

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This thing? He wasn't big Blockie. Now he was. He

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was fit, He was taught the best way I can

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destrive it. He looked like an NBA player. He still

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had muscle tongue. Now here's the kicker about it. My

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first encounter. I've never seen, well that I can talk

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on record, I've never seen uh one that looked like

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this one. Now, whether he was a sasquatch or a

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faro human, I know he had he had features like ours.

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Now I couldn't I could barely see his eyes because

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his hair was hanging down in his face and all

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his hair looked like he'd been rolling down in the mud,

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had leaves, you know, down down his arms and stuff,

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and then his thighs and whatnot. But he looked like

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an NBA player, So I would have to guess he

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was probably somewhere maybe around seven and a half eight

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foot tall. But he had nose like ours, but it

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was huge, you know. I couldn't see his ears because

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his ears hair was hanging down his ears. He had

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about six inch six inch hair on his arms and

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his legs. It was a little bear right in here

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in the chest area. And he had a beard and

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had a mustache. I wouldn't well get it at all,

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But this thing reminded me more of a feral human

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than or maybe even a hybrid instead of a bigfoot,

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because I've seen some, you know, and I ain't never

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saw a pretty bigfoot, I'm sorry, just never have. But

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I've never seen one that I can talk on record

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like this one. He loves wild, giant, wild man. All

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I saw was a monster.

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Absolutely. So it sounds like from what you saw, you're

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definitely saying it seemed to be more male than female,

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Is that right?

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Definitely? Yeah, he didn't have a little boobs or nothing

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like that.

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Sure, when you've used NBA player a few times, and

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would you say, then let's well use more on the

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Larry Bird side or the shack size because there's muscular

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differences between NBA players, you know.

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Right, Definitely, Now he was more on shack size.

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Okay, gotcha.

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He was big, but he was long and like. I

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mean he was real tall, but he was long and like.

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And now he was still big, but he looked more

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like if you say Shaq, it looked more like Shaq. Now,

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the ones I've seen over my lifetime, you know, I've

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seen some big has daddies. I'm talking about some King Koreos,

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but none of them ever looked like this one here. Now,

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I've seen some lanky bigfoots. I've seen some pot bettery bigfoots,

455
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.440
you know, but that first encounter, I ain never saw

456
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.359
one after that, like exactly like him, because his nose

457
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.839
wasn't flat, his face wouldn't protrude or anything like that.

458
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.400
He was just he looked like he took too much growth.

459
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:58.400
Hormone that makes that makes you wonder man, that's wild.

460
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.880
But then, I mean, you've already said that this really

461
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:06.920
affected you. You got really your first taste of PTSD.

462
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:12.759
When when witnesses have these encounters, it seems like that

463
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.160
it will either put them on a road where they

464
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:20.599
got to figure out what this is, or they just

465
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:24.039
they get away from it and it really affects them

466
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:26.200
going into the woods. Did you go down either of

467
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.240
those trails or was your path a little different after that?

468
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.680
I kind of went down both trails. Number one, I

469
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.880
became scared of the dark. I mean, you know, I

470
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:39.720
shared my story, you know, with some of my cousins

471
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:42.079
and family members. Of course, I got rid of kuled

472
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.880
made fun of you know, oh there's a bigfoot guy,

473
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:49.039
you know, and it wasn't cool. It wouldn't a compliment

474
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.559
at all. And sometimes my cousins would be like, hey,

475
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.640
let's go Dave outside, you know, with my older brother,

476
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:57.599
and they chumped me outside in the dark. Man, I

477
00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:59.960
would peel the paint off the wall to get back.

478
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.319
So when the sun went down, my but was in

479
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:05.400
the house, I wouldn't go back. I used to coon

480
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:08.599
hunt by myself, run those river bottoms all by myself.

481
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:12.240
Didn't have ner They're none, you know, Me and my

482
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.960
two dogs, I mean, out all night popping coons out

483
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:17.759
of the top of the tree. Never had a problem

484
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:20.759
at all. But after that I hung up all that.

485
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:29.519
But there was that something in me. Even though that

486
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.359
was a scary encounter, something in me kind of flipped,

487
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.440
I guess, and it was like, what is this? You know,

488
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.759
how do I you know, where do I put this

489
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:43.640
thing in? So you know, my little mind's running one

490
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.640
hundred miles an hour. And I scared the dark till

491
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.400
I was eighteen years old. It got dark unless I

492
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:50.960
was out with a bunch of friends playing in the

493
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:54.079
front yard. You know, I was in the house. But

494
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.759
I finally overcome that fear. Don't bother me now I

495
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:58.440
can be out there. I've had them all around me

496
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.079
out in the middle of the art, you know, way

497
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:06.079
up those art mountains. Crazy stuff. But but that one

498
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:07.440
kind of boogered me up a little bit.

499
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.119
Yeah, absolutely, was there a thing you did to get

500
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:12.319
over your fear of the dark.

501
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:17.839
I think it just come with time and more or

502
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:22.319
less more understanding of what these things are. Because because

503
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.720
once that happened, you know, every book I can get

504
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.960
my hand on, you know, I read about Bigfoot, and

505
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.319
there wasn't a whole lot of books on Bigfoot, but

506
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.720
there were some. You know, I'd go to the libraries and

507
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:40.559
check out books about Bigfoot, started reading and whatnot, finding

508
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:44.200
out what these critters are, and that just kind of

509
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:49.519
started to smark in me. And from that encounter, from

510
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:54.240
that first encounter, you know, a lot of people say

511
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:58.079
that these things mark you. I'm a firm believer in

512
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:02.400
that because I I didn't have to go looking for them.

513
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.079
They were just always there. It didn't matter where I

514
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.160
moved in the United States. These rascals would show up

515
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:14.319
in my life, you know, throughout my life, you know,

516
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.720
and and there's always been I mean, there was some

517
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:25.960
that weren't so pleasant, so to speak, but most of

518
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.279
them have been. You know, they see you, You see them,

519
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.279
you know, they know I'm there. I even talk to them,

520
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.519
you know, call me crazy, but I talked to them.

521
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:36.720
You know, that's not crazy.

522
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:40.599
Let them know in the woods, because I know they're

523
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:43.359
going to be there, especially I would going to a

524
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:47.240
hot area. You know, a lot of my research area

525
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:52.759
now is in southwest Arkansas, close to Louisiana and Texas,

526
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.480
and man, there's a whole passle of them down there,

527
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.440
which is crazy. But I got video for fotage of

528
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:05.640
them thermal, lots of thermal and stuff, screams, hollers, all

529
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:08.920
kinds of stuff down there that I ain't even released yet.

530
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:12.960
Oh wow, Okay, so you just kind of answered. So,

531
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.759
are is this a thing where listeners can like go

532
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:18.960
to Do you have some stuff out on like a

533
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.039
YouTube channel or a Facebook or you're just kind of

534
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:22.559
getting there?

535
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.519
This is Yeah, I'm kind of getting there, you know.

536
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.799
I was. I was a closet bigfooter for fifty one

537
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:34.039
and a half years until a buddy of mine come

538
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:35.799
in here and he started way he wouldn't a buddy

539
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:38.400
of mine, but he come in and introduced himself, and

540
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.000
you know, he says, hey, man, everybody, I talk to you.

541
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:43.160
He says, come down here and talk to you about bigfoot.

542
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.319
So he said, tell me a story. So I told

543
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.359
him the first story and then blowed away, and he's like, man,

544
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:51.960
you got to tell people about this. I was like, no,

545
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.200
not at all, I said, I've kept this stuff to myself.

546
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.720
I go out and do my little investigations. I do

547
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.039
my little you know, little this little of that. I've

548
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:04.039
seen him all my life, and I keep it to myself.

549
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.599
I said, I got ridly killed when I was a kid,

550
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.720
and most of my life about talking about this subject.

551
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.240
So everybody said I was crazy, and if I come

552
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:15.759
out and publicly and say that, then people are going

553
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:22.200
to know that I'm crazy, and you know. So I

554
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.279
didn't share. And then he kept coming in and I

555
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:29.039
tell him another story, telling another story. Finally he contacted

556
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:33.240
Mguil with Sasquatch theory, and so Miguel started talking to

557
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.960
me about coming on his channel, and I remember the

558
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.720
first time he called. I was like, nope, I ain't

559
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.400
telling nobody. I'll tell you some, but I ain't telling nobody.

560
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.319
You know, I'll talk to you, but not on their

561
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.839
But they both stayed on me. So finally I said, okay,

562
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.519
I'll share a few stories. So I did a phone

563
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:55.400
interview with Miguel, and later on I went up there

564
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.000
to Missouri then had a set down with him face

565
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.720
to face and did an interview there and told me

566
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:04.480
about some of my experiences and whatnot. So that's why

567
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.440
it got me all into this and going public. Now,

568
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.000
you know, going public, I've been ridiculed againt. Church don't

569
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.920
understand anything about this.

570
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:21.240
Yes, dude, if there's anyone that should understand it, it's

571
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:25.640
the church. And why are Like, dude, you're a religious

572
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:29.319
guy too, right, Like, why in the world is the

573
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.960
church losing the bus? Like missing the bus on this?

574
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.319
It gets me so riled up, dude, Like.

575
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:39.079
Yeah, well what the church don't know and don't understand?

576
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:42.519
They always Well, it's a datemon. You're out chasing demons. Now,

577
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.200
you don't lost your ever loving mind you chasing demons?

578
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:52.240
You know. I I believe myself these things are flesh

579
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.599
and blood from what I've seen in all my accounters.

580
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.559
Flesh and blood is what I mean. There is an

581
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:05.519
actual entity, one of these critters looking at me or

582
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:09.320
tree peeking, you know, there he is right there. I

583
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:11.880
remember one time, probably the funniest thing I ever saw

584
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:17.719
was the pop belly Bigfoot. Now, I don't know what

585
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.480
this thing was thinking, but he had a big, old belly.

586
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:27.599
Now he was probably maybe seven, maybe he probably used

587
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.559
to be taller because he was an older bigfoot. He

588
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.199
had a lot of gray standing out there about sixty

589
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:36.519
yards and this is a daytime sighting, and he's kind of,

590
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.239
you know, slumped over real hard. You can tell. You

591
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:44.039
can tell he was an older, older bigfoot. And he's

592
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.480
hiding behind a tree. This sucker is huge, but he's

593
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.039
hiding behind a tree like this, And he was standing

594
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.079
with that tree right up here, and you could see

595
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.840
his big belly sticking out on the other side of

596
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:57.880
that tree, and you can see his butt cheeks sticking

597
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.159
out on the other side of that tree. And he

598
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:02.880
would look around that tree like that at me, and

599
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.559
then he would hide his eyes where he couldn't see me,

600
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.159
and then he would look back behind here like this,

601
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:12.320
around that tree, and I'm like, dude, I see you.

602
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.440
You know, I busched it out laughing. It was just funny.

603
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:18.480
It was funny. But that was back before cell phone

604
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:22.320
cell phones and video stuff and whatnot. I would have

605
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:24.519
loved to got that on a video on that because

606
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.840
that was probably my most hilarious besides people running. You know,

607
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.199
that's pretty funny too. You know, everybody want to see

608
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:33.119
a big foot until the Bigfoot show was up.

609
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:35.320
That's true, that is true.

610
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.440
They scattered, Oh I want to see a big I

611
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:38.800
want to see a big foot. And then when the

612
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.800
bigfoot shows up, they run like a bunch of ice.

613
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.320
For sure? For sure. Has there ever been a time, though,

614
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.320
where you have wanted to skidadle like a bunch of

615
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:50.920
mice because it got so intense?

616
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:54.320
Or oh yeah, yeah, I know when to back Alburt Woods,

617
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:56.800
you know, I know when I've pushed it too far.

618
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:05.000
One incident that happened south central Arkansas is Big Eddy

619
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:09.119
when I dubbed his name Big Eddie. Now I'm intervening

620
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:13.039
with this clan for probably about six years, had a

621
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.559
gifting spot. I mean it was just it was just

622
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.800
wild wild. I had them all around me that I

623
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:21.360
could see. And that was one night I can get

624
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.599
into that story a little bit, when I was out

625
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:26.840
there fishing. But Big Eddie he never showed none of

626
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:31.800
them ever showed aggression. This clan here, and there was

627
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.599
five of them according to the eye shines. And but

628
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.480
one day he come, I'm walking through the woods this

629
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.599
deer season, I'm kind of just slipping through the woods,

630
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:50.199
and he busts. I knew they were around, because if

631
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:54.079
you've been around these cutters long enough, your body will

632
00:36:54.119 --> 00:37:00.639
tell you when they're around. I don't know how that works,

633
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:03.719
But when one's around, I know it's around.

634
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:05.639
Can you explain that.

635
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:12.719
Well, It's kind of like sometimes there's an overwhelming feeling

636
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:21.159
of dread. Sometimes there's a you know, you're you're like run,

637
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:26.239
you know, And usually when that one takes place, I

638
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.519
start backing out it woods, you know. I know when

639
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:32.599
to back out when not to back out. But it's

640
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.559
like the hair on my arms will stand up, hair

641
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.920
on the back of my neck will stand up. When

642
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.519
these critters get around me. I know when one's close.

643
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:46.760
And but big Eddie, he's never showed any aggression at all.

644
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:50.199
Now that one's probably he's probably pushing eleven foot tall.

645
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.800
Now I've got a track of his. It's eighteen inches

646
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.159
wide or eighteen inches long and about nine inches wide.

647
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.000
It wasn't a real good track because it was in

648
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:04.920
a gravel bar. But uh, he come busting out of

649
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.199
I was in some pretty pretty thick woods down in

650
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.880
the bottoms, and he come busting out of a clear

651
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:13.880
cut that was growed up way over my head. You know,

652
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:18.239
it was just grass trees, uh what I call crappy trees,

653
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:22.559
ones that don't produce nothing. They're just there. And uh,

654
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:26.320
he come busting out of that now he he when

655
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:30.840
he busted out, I mean fast. Have you ever seen

656
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:40.079
uh any videos where them them gorillas uh bluff bluff

657
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.800
charged the glass. He looked like that. He was on

658
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:47.159
all fours and he was kind of what we call

659
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:52.400
here in Arkansas puppy tracking. In other words, Uh, you

660
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:55.280
notice puppies when they walk their their were ends out

661
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:57.800
to one side or out to the other side. It's

662
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.280
called puppy tracking. That's what we call it. So he

663
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:03.440
was puppy tracking. He was kind of not coming at

664
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:08.320
me sideways, but almost sideways at an angle. You know.

665
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.800
He was at an angle on all fours, and he

666
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:16.440
come busting through that brush and was heading straight for me. Now,

667
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:21.639
I've got a friend, mister Luxford. I figured I figured

668
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:22.960
i'd probably die that day.

669
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:25.400
He's a great guy too. If we're talking about the

670
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:26.079
same guy.

671
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.920
Yes, sir, h, I'm sure we're talking about the same guy.

672
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.880
But I talked to him years ago and I made

673
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.400
him down to the Bigfoot Conference down in Louisiana, and

674
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.760
I was like, man, you know, I've had some aggressive ones.

675
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.920
What do you know, kind of filling him out a

676
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.960
little bit on his take, and he's like, always stand

677
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:49.719
your ground. He says, always stand your ground. And he said,

678
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:55.840
if you run, it clicks that predator chase. You know,

679
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:58.599
I've got two German shepherds. They love my cat, but

680
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:02.960
if my cat takes off running, they run after. So

681
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.119
all I could hear was mister Lungford in my brain,

682
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.000
stand your ground, stand your ground, stand your ground. So

683
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.880
I stealed my ground and just kind of you know

684
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.519
what kind of you know, how you religious prey, one

685
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:21.800
eye closed, one eye peeking, watching him come at me.

686
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:25.800
And when he got probably twenty less than twenty yards

687
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.760
from me, and he come to a screech and halt

688
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:33.119
and just took and scuffed the ground. Of course, there's

689
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.519
a bunch of leaves, dirt, limbs, all that kind of stuff,

690
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:40.960
and just showered me with this stuff and just sat

691
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.960
there and looked at me for a little bit and

692
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:47.360
he turned and walked away. Now after this happened, I

693
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:51.840
mean almost wept my britches. But after this, after this happened.

694
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.599
I started talking to a few guys that I knew

695
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:58.920
that that was in the bigfoot world. I've been following

696
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:01.079
for a long time, and I said, this thing ain't

697
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.440
never showed no aggression to me. Why did he show

698
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:06.440
aggression to me? The only thing they could figure and

699
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:12.360
it makes sense that there was a new juvenile, that

700
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.840
there was a possibility I got too close to because

701
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.199
he's never showed aggression before and never showed aggression afterwards,

702
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.719
because I had encounters with him afterwards. I had encounters

703
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:26.239
up till there was a fifteen foot of water come

704
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:28.840
through there, and I haven't seen them back in there since.

705
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.400
I don't know if they moved on. Of course, I

706
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:35.559
hadn't been down there in a year, so yeah, maybe

707
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.960
a little over a year. But I need to go

708
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:42.079
back down there and check it out. But that was

709
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:44.880
pretty scary. That made me sin. As I got home,

710
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.199
I got online because I like building weapons, and I

711
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.079
put together a four fifty eight so con that I

712
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.239
wear on my plate carrier now when I go out

713
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:57.400
looking for thee because some of them, some of them

714
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:01.400
are I mean, you see them most encounters, it's like

715
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.440
three to five seconds boom, you see them there gone

716
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:09.400
just like that, and some encounters alone. But some of

717
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:13.679
these things, even me, you know, they tend to be

718
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.840
a little bit grouchy, either they got up on the

719
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:19.880
wrong side of the bed or you know, I've seen

720
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.400
them just growl and you know, bury their teeth at me.

721
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:26.079
When they do that, then it's time to back out.

722
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:29.800
I'm just like, oh, whoa baby boy, I'm on back

723
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.199
out of here. Now this is your house. I'm gonna

724
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.400
go the other way, so I'll just start backing out

725
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:34.960
the woods.

726
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.519
Okay. So would you say, and just to clarify for

727
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:44.400
the audience, would you say then that preparation is more

728
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.920
for your safety, like you're not going out and trying

729
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:50.599
to take one out on purpose, or maybe you are.

730
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.320
It would break my heartshoe one really good.

731
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:54.119
Okay.

732
00:42:54.159 --> 00:43:00.079
I would prefer to have these things protected absolutely. The

733
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.920
government know about these things absolutely absolutely. But you know

734
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.920
there's things out there called the NDAs, so I'm bound.

735
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:13.719
But uh, you know, they can be very very aggressive

736
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:20.559
at times. And whoever says that these critters have never

737
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.519
taken a human life, they don't know what they're talking about.

738
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:26.800
They have a lot of idea what they're talking about.

739
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.599
So that's the thing that always comes up because people

740
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.320
would be like, well, we've never heard the stories. Well

741
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.719
that's because there's no one left to tell the story, right,

742
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.039
That's what I think is going on. If you're having

743
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:41.519
those situations where someone gets taken out like, it's because

744
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:44.119
there's no one else there to tell the story after

745
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:44.920
they're gone.

746
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.159
Right, you know. And but look at the advidence, you

747
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:51.719
know the four one one politis right, you know, there's

748
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:55.440
there's you know, he's got proof, but nobody will listen.

749
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.960
That's true after that encounter when he bluff charged me

750
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:02.639
like that. I've been bluff charged for, but not like this.

751
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.280
You know, I don't go out unless I go heavy.

752
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.920
I go with protection. You know. My first defense is

753
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:14.199
a big giant can a bear spray that is on

754
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:18.480
my hip. But I also carry two pistols. I carry

755
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.039
my big knife, and I carry a four fifty eight.

756
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.760
So con with elephant charges in there, you know, I

757
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:26.360
would hate shoot one. I would want to shoot one.

758
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.519
It breaks my heart to do that because that's not

759
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:32.280
my mission. My mission is having counters with these things.

760
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.719
Some of them are pretty cool, you know. Some of

761
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.920
them are comical, like the fat one had the beer belly.

762
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:41.920
That was my beer belly. Sasquatch, you know, are quite hilarious,

763
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:48.000
you know, to see juveniles playing in the water. You know,

764
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:52.239
they're just like kids playing in the water, splashing each other,

765
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.119
you know, jumping off trees into the water. They can

766
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:55.960
swim real good.

767
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:06.000
So you mentioned earlier that you've seen some pretty far

768
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:10.360
out things. Can are there any that you can share,

769
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:14.559
maybe something you experienced during encounter that just it just

770
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.880
really threw your mind out there.

771
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:21.559
Oh yeah, Like I said, there's a lot I can't say,

772
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:28.119
but it's you know, seeing the bigfoots and orbs, you know.

773
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:34.400
You know, I've seen that multiple times over my life.

774
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.880
I got videos of orbs all over the place and

775
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:41.159
it was we're definitely quiet. I couldn't see the bigfoot.

776
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:43.599
I knew he was there, but there was orbs, you know,

777
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.119
and multiple people had saw that that was with me.

778
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.400
That was just not probably an hour away from here

779
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:56.679
from where I live at in Arkansas. But the the

780
00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:04.000
most interesting that really rocked my head was that was

781
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.400
one I was up in the Ozark up in the

782
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:11.480
ose Arts and there's another person with me. It's probably

783
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:14.599
two o'clock in the morning. You know, we're out some heavy,

784
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:22.480
heavy mountainous woods thick partially thick, and we're going down

785
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:26.519
this old logging road and then we hear a tree

786
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:31.800
knock bam, and the girl that I was with, was

787
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:38.519
that a tree knock. I said, yeah, that's treenck and

788
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:41.320
so I said, let's just get still here, let's just watch,

789
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.519
and we picked him up on thermal. Now, this thing's

790
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:51.000
probably right at eighty yards away tree peeking looking around

791
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.880
the tree. Knew where exactly where we were. So we

792
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:59.519
just kind of hunkered down and watched him, and he

793
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:02.480
started going from tree to tree, getting closer to us.

794
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.719
Now we're watching this on thermal. This sucker is lit up,

795
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:10.920
and then the woods in front of us. This is

796
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.760
the reason I prefer a thermal. It's over night vision.

797
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.199
Night vision. Just you know, if you got brushed in

798
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:18.079
front of it, you can't see through it. The thermal,

799
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:19.599
you can see right through it. You can see the

800
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:26.920
heat signatures. And probably twenty five thirty yards from us

801
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.840
was the woods got pretty dense heading to this old

802
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.519
logging road, and he walked right up to the edge

803
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.760
of the woods. Now this sucker is probably thirty yards

804
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:41.119
from us. He kind of stood there for a little

805
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:43.880
bit and then he started pushing through the brush. You

806
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.039
can hear him coming through the brush. I thought he

807
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.760
was gonna come up and shake our hands. And he

808
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:54.239
probably got ten yards, probably twenty yards from us, blazing

809
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:58.760
white hot, and just like that, he disappeared. Two thermals

810
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:04.079
and he disappeared completely off radar. Now I heard him

811
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:08.880
come in there, I didn't hear him leave, but he

812
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.079
shut down the thermal. I don't know how or you know,

813
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.960
because we stood there, I mean hunger down there for

814
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:21.599
a linked amount of time after he disappeared. Now how

815
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.840
that happened, you know, that opened my mind to some

816
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:29.679
possibilities of maybe going from the dimension dimension I don't know.

817
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:31.800
I didn't see no porto or nothing like to ask,

818
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:35.000
I can't say that, but I do know this. That

819
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:38.440
thing was there and then he would and I heard

820
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:40.360
him walk in, but I didn't hear him walk out,

821
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:50.559
but he just flat disappeared. That's probably probably one of

822
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:54.599
the top top ones that really, you know, baffled me.

823
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.599
It threw me off just and here's the deal, just

824
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:01.239
when I think I've got these critters it out, they'll

825
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:05.719
throw me a curveball like that one. You know, most

826
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:07.719
people go out there and they're just looking for big food. Oh,

827
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:13.159
mister bigfoot, mister bigfood. You know, beating on trees doing

828
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:17.039
some stuff. You know, it's like uh. And I think

829
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:19.320
the reason most people don't see them is because they're

830
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.000
in the trees. The best place to hide is up.

831
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:26.440
I don't know how many I've got film of thermal

832
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:32.280
of them being up in trees down on my research

833
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.119
area and a new research area, but of mine's end

834
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:37.760
a video and he's like, hey man, there's Bigfoot's down here.

835
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.199
I was like, I'll be there next weekend. Boom. I

836
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.159
took off out there and stayed out there by myself.

837
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:43.800
I got a big ten on top of my truck.

838
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:46.920
So I went out there and camped out for three

839
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.159
or four days. And I catch them in the trees,

840
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:52.679
then catch them on the ground. They were up in

841
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:56.480
the trees, and I got thermal video of all that stuff.

842
00:49:56.679 --> 00:50:00.280
It's crazy, you tell of what it is. Because I

843
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.440
went down there and took my boat. I got out

844
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:04.920
on the water, set up some sound traps and all

845
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:09.440
that kind of picture, camera camera traps and stuff. I

846
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:11.920
always put camera traps around or now I've got to

847
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:15.880
where I put not video around my camp at nine.

848
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:17.239
That's infra. Right.

849
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:21.880
Did you just have something fly above your head in

850
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:22.280
your room?

851
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:23.480
Probably?

852
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:28.880
Okay, No, you don't have like a fan with something

853
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:34.239
hanging from it or anything that was weird. Okay. Yeah,

854
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:39.599
you know you've been on these podcasts, you know, always happening. Yeah,

855
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:43.599
that's fascinating. So when I went out to Oregon, that's

856
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:45.880
what they told me too. They're like, you're not looking well.

857
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:49.559
First they were like, you don't realize how tall eight

858
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:52.039
to ten feet tall is. So they showed me on

859
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.559
a tree and they're like, wow, that's way taller. And

860
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:56.199
then they're like, you need to look up in the

861
00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:59.199
trees because, like you said, they usually are up in

862
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:01.679
the trees and no one looks up. Everyone's looking down

863
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:08.400
at the ground. So it's it's totally totally true the trees. Absolutely.

864
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:15.719
You mentioned something that could make for an interesting conversation

865
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:19.280
because I I have I think I might know what

866
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.599
you're saying. But uh so you mentioned that you're unable

867
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.360
to share about some things. Are there certain reasons that

868
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:28.679
you're unable to share about some things that are related

869
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:30.119
to the Bigfoot?

870
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:35.840
Yes, there is. I'll talk to you about it, okay.

871
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:44.280
But well, and I'm not saying to to to like

872
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:46.280
throw out the stories that you don't want to share,

873
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:47.840
because like I'm not going to push for that. But

874
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:53.760
like I've noticed that sometimes with certain witnesses they are

875
00:51:53.880 --> 00:52:00.679
maybe even told they can't you know, and so I

876
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.880
don't know exactly. Yeah, that could be a different conversation.

877
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:10.079
Uh, some I know something I don't know that or

878
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:20.960
how can I put it? Cryptid retrieval specialist and I'll

879
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:21.880
leave it rapped here?

880
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.360
Wow, you know you know that kind of person. Okay, yeah,

881
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:29.360
we'll leave it there. I've had those conversations and they

882
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.360
cannot get out there. I know exactly what kind of

883
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:34.320
stuff you're talking about. Yeah, there's some I.

884
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:38.320
Believe the real absolutely. I believe the government knows about them. Absolutely.

885
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:43.119
Oh yeah, yeah, man, I've talked to current government employees

886
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:46.599
that are like, maybe we'll talk in twenty years, you know.

887
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:52.920
Yeah, sure, way Trump's going He's going to release everything.

888
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.920
I'm like, dude, I've been reaching out to. I'm not

889
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.679
going to say actual names of government. There's a few

890
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.639
that could kind of be on our side because they're

891
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.840
on similar sides and we'll leave it there. And I'm like, dude,

892
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:10.440
can you just like send them a note and be like, hey,

893
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:12.800
just throw the bigfoot stuff in there too, man, Like,

894
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.119
why not? If we're going to do the UFO stuff,

895
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:18.119
it's time for the big stuff, so throw it in there.

896
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:21.519
Are UFOs real, absolutely on.

897
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:24.719
Per That's where we passed that for sure.

898
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:26.960
I've had a few UFO encounters.

899
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:31.400
Yeah, oh I bet, I mean once you get what

900
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:35.960
man I was. I just had my first like weird

901
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:39.639
lights in the woods encounter in an area down Tennessee

902
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:42.480
afew a month or so ago, and that was the

903
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:46.679
first time I ever experienced that but weird stuff. One

904
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:49.119
thing I want to talk to you about, though, is

905
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:56.840
because I think it's very interesting, is what was the

906
00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:03.760
first time you had some kind of communication with them?

907
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:04.239
Oh boy?

908
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.039
Or doesn't have to be the first time?

909
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:13.679
I mean, I not ever encounter. Is there any communication?

910
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:15.920
You know? I always talk to him when I hit

911
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:19.559
the woods, you know, especially down in my area where

912
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.280
Big Eddie was, I let him know I was in

913
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.760
the woods. And sometimes I'll get it, you know, kind

914
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:26.559
of got you know, I better get out of here.

915
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.599
Do they have infer sound? Yeah, but I call it

916
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:37.800
to ghiblis. It sounds like probably the best way I

917
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:43.920
can describe it. It sounds like samuraized warriors arguing back

918
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:48.480
and forth is what most of them have sound like. Now,

919
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:51.519
some of them have not been all at vocal, maybe

920
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:55.320
a whoop, you know, tree slap or something like that,

921
00:54:56.000 --> 00:55:04.639
tree knock, But as far as talking to each other, yeah.

922
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.320
It sounds like it's more like of putting your intention

923
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:12.679
out there as you go to a certain area. And

924
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:16.119
people would be surprised how many people do that and

925
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:18.599
aren't talking about it. And I don't know why they're

926
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:19.519
not talking about it.

927
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:22.880
This is why these things are so incredible. You know,

928
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:25.519
I deer hunt down there because it's on my hunt

929
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:31.119
leaes and there's been times that I took a deer

930
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.760
and it's down in that area where I have all

931
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:40.199
my encounters with these rascals, and I'll say, hey, got

932
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:43.199
a deer over here. If y'all want me to leave

933
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:48.239
behind quarter, just wrap on a tree. And I was

934
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:53.519
floored the first time i'd heard that. So on, oh yes, sir,

935
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:56.599
And so I cut one of the hind quarters off

936
00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:58.960
and just left it laying there when I went back

937
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.119
into my hunt and stand the next morning, because I

938
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:02.719
like to get in my hunt and stand about an

939
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.119
hour before daylight where I can get in there and

940
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:08.840
get settled down. You know when that sun starts to

941
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:11.599
come up. You know, that's when the animals are usually active.

942
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:15.960
And I looked over when when sun come up, and

943
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:17.639
I can look over where I carried that deer. Because

944
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.199
I only killed sixty yards for my stand, you know,

945
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:22.840
the guts had been gone through. Not all the guts

946
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:28.119
were gone, but the like the heart, the liver, kidneys.

947
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:30.239
Because after my hunt was over, I went over and

948
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:32.280
looked about lunchtime, I went over and look and see

949
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.719
what I was missing. But that hind quarter was gone.

950
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:38.360
And that's happened on several occasions. Yeah, I got a

951
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:40.480
deer down here. You got me to leave you some

952
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:43.159
haanng on that tree?

953
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:46.079
How quick was the response?

954
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:49.320
Sometimes quick? Sometimes not so quick?

955
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:49.719
Okay.

956
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:53.639
Sometimes sometimes I'll tell them, you know, got a deer down.

957
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:55.920
When I'm standing at the deer and I'll start working

958
00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:57.960
on it, you know, gutting it out and stuff like that.

959
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:01.039
Then I'll hear a tree bomp. But I tell them

960
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:10.079
all I mean, I'm not saying they're my friends. But

961
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:15.639
there has been communication back and forth, you know, especially

962
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:17.840
and I talked my language. Hey, you want me to

963
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:19.719
leave you some of this deer, I will. I'll cut

964
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.320
you off hindcore. Just bang on a tree and let

965
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:25.079
me know, right. And like I said, I was floored

966
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:28.239
the first time, and I was like, Okay, as soon

967
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:30.320
as I got done gutting it, I just took my knife,

968
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:32.559
cut a hind quarter off and left it there. Like

969
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.199
I said, the next day, when sun come up, I

970
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:37.159
could see that hind quarter was gone. But when I

971
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:43.159
walked over the heart, liver, kidneys, that stuff was gone, spleen,

972
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:49.960
all the organs were gone, but the guts were still there. Wow.

973
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.360
So can you interact with these things? Yeah?

974
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:58.000
Absolutely absolutely, Oh no, no, you definitely can, more than

975
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:03.480
people are willing to talk about it, I think. I mean,

976
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:05.880
I've had a similar situation out in Oregon last year

977
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:09.400
where just being out in the woods. Uh. There we

978
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:11.559
were out the group and I was off a little

979
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:13.880
bit and it's just like, hey, if you're here, can

980
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.960
you make noise? And just like half second later it's

981
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:19.440
like bam would knock, and then again another would knock,

982
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:21.880
and I was like right, I'm going back. And I

983
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:24.000
always wondered, you know, if I had kept going in

984
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.840
the woods, what would have happened. Who knows, But.

985
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.760
I'm kind of I have a tendency of I'm an

986
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:35.880
adrenaline junkie, and I have a tendency of pushing the

987
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:40.400
envelope just just far enough, you know. And they'll they

988
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:42.440
always let me know when they don't want me around,

989
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.719
you know, even when I've been with somebody it's like, hey,

990
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:49.079
you know, me and a kid from Dallas they want

991
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:52.079
We went on the bf R trip and we got

992
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:56.000
all the way down on this logging road and me

993
00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:59.679
and this young kid and were sitting there and I'm thermaling.

994
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:03.159
I heard something, so I started thermaling. And he's got

995
00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:06.320
night vision and he's looking night vision. Then all of

996
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:09.800
a sudden, I was just kind of put my my

997
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:12.280
deal down. I knew what there was one there, but

998
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:17.000
I couldn't see it yet. And he's got this night

999
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:22.440
vision and he turns that night vision up and I

1000
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:24.760
can see a beam of light coming out that rascal.

1001
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:27.760
I'm like, hey, what do you have? And he's like,

1002
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:30.760
I said, turn that thing thing off. I said, just

1003
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:33.599
turn it off. I said, you're giving away our position. Here,

1004
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:36.880
here's my thermal. Look through my thermal. Of course, I'm

1005
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:39.679
talking real softly to him. It's about two or three

1006
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:42.360
o'clock in the morning. I find the best time to

1007
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:46.079
interact with these things is between two and five thirty

1008
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:50.320
am is the best time, especially when it's getting hot

1009
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:54.239
like this. You know they're gonna be they're gonna be

1010
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:57.000
being down during the day. You know, they always have

1011
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:00.760
a centurion. There's always a lookout. This thing is a

1012
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:06.039
real military lie. But they'll bet down and they'll come

1013
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:06.519
out at night.

1014
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:11.679
Yeah, I agree with that one hundred percent.

1015
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:12.000
They do.

1016
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:17.400
There is we learned that in Tennessee. For sure. We

1017
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:20.519
would always walk through center of the camp or side

1018
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:24.400
of the camp with the most activity, and every time

1019
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:26.519
we went into that part of the camp, there was

1020
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:31.599
a single wood knock every time someone would and that

1021
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:34.719
is the Tennessee cryptic camp out, which is a good

1022
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:35.880
thing people should look into.

1023
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.679
I find most people that I go with there and

1024
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:42.639
they're they're they're looking for their band about at eleven o'clock.

1025
01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:46.159
You know, Okay, I'll see you in the morning. Okay,

1026
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:48.800
I'm gonna go out here pass some funds.

1027
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:55.679
So someone yourself, you have years and years of experience.

1028
01:00:56.360 --> 01:01:00.239
Let's say you are going to your research area and

1029
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.239
you've provided a little bit of this information already, but

1030
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.199
what are the things that are are you an individual

1031
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.199
where you get to the research area where you have

1032
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:14.880
interaction and you're you're sitting there and waiting, or what

1033
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:16.960
are things that you're you're doing once you get to

1034
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:17.440
that area.

1035
01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:24.320
I just piddle around, you know. I take soundtraps with me. Now.

1036
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:27.599
I have a vest that I wear sometimes if it's

1037
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:32.000
a real high risk area, I'll put on my plate

1038
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:37.599
carrier and my ballistic helmet, pop my four fifty eight

1039
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:42.199
on my chest. That's just a you know, hostile areas,

1040
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:45.760
and there are hostile areas, but some I just take

1041
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:51.719
a small backpack. I put a I have a police

1042
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:54.960
camera on my chest that is night vision, so I

1043
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:57.079
put it on my chest and then I put one

1044
01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:59.639
on the back of my backpack because you'd be surprised

1045
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:03.519
what slips up behind you once you pass through. Oh yeah,

1046
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:06.280
that are both infrared. They show about thirty feet in

1047
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:08.840
front of me and thirty feet behind me. You know,

1048
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:11.920
I always carry a camera up here, and then I

1049
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.079
put a soundtrap on myself. You know, I load this

1050
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:18.960
stuff and start this stuff with but you know, right

1051
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:20.519
as I I mean, as soon as I get out

1052
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:22.320
of the car, I put this stuff on, especially the

1053
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.639
sound because I don't know how many times I've gotten it.

1054
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:28.760
You know, drive down there and my pickup, and you know,

1055
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:30.920
as soon as I get out of the truck, they're whooping,

1056
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:33.880
you know, or something like that. You hear a tree

1057
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:37.000
knock and you can't catch it because most people miss it.

1058
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.119
Ninety percent of you know, bigfoot investigators miss it. So

1059
01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:42.000
that's where I always carry a soundtrap. Then I have

1060
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:44.960
soundtraps I put out in the woods in strategic areas

1061
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.559
and whatnot. But I just get out there and peddle around.

1062
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:50.239
You know. Sometimes I'll just sit down next to the creek,

1063
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:53.639
you know, kind of talk to myself, sing a little bit.

1064
01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:56.559
I can't hold a tune in the bucket, but I

1065
01:02:56.639 --> 01:03:02.159
find these things particularly they love southern rock music.

1066
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:03.280
No wow.

1067
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:06.800
Sometimes I'll you know, take my bluetooth speakers, set it

1068
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:09.719
next to me and put on some Southern rock and

1069
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:12.960
uh that's what they when they revealed their selves, all

1070
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:15.679
five of them. That's what I was doing down by

1071
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:19.679
the river. I was fishing that night, and had they sounded.

1072
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.239
They started calling like alice, but you could tell it

1073
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:26.159
what't no? What? No? Who now? And one was like

1074
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:29.079
three hundred yards this way. When I first heard it,

1075
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:32.320
I'm like, okay, now I've got my German shepherd with me.

1076
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:34.679
I got and I have one now that take with me.

1077
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:37.400
She passed. She was she was a good squatch dog,

1078
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:40.239
probably the best squatch dog ever had. Now what she

1079
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:42.280
would do when they get close. She wouldn't lean. Her

1080
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:45.760
name was Christian. She would lean up against me, you know,

1081
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.159
because she could send them before I could sense them.

1082
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:51.760
And of course she'd go on point, you know, she

1083
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:55.840
would look around radar and she would ping where they

1084
01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:57.920
were at, where they were at, So I would start

1085
01:03:57.960 --> 01:03:59.880
looking in that area, whether it be they or not.

1086
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:03.639
You know, a thurble at night, you know, use binoculars

1087
01:04:03.679 --> 01:04:07.320
there today, and you know, should put me on point.

1088
01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:10.599
But and then there was another hootout that hollered back here,

1089
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:15.199
probably one hundred yards, and they went back and forth.

1090
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:19.639
And then a little bit later there's another hoodout way

1091
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:22.519
over here, and then there's one over here across on

1092
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:25.920
my side, way down the river. And then there's one

1093
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:27.960
over here on the other side of the river, way back,

1094
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:31.400
well before the night was over. It's probably about three

1095
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:35.639
four o'clock in the morning, you know. I use another

1096
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:39.000
thing I would advise people use red lights. Don't use

1097
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:43.760
white lights. I have found in my experience, and I

1098
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.920
used white lights for a long time, but I find

1099
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:50.280
once you hit them with that, they'll either close their

1100
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:54.199
eyes or they'll retreat. With a white light, I really

1101
01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:57.039
feel it hurts their eyes. But the red light, I

1102
01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:01.719
never shine any light in their face at all. What

1103
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:06.280
I do is I scan with my red light. I

1104
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:08.719
got a red light up here. I can scan with

1105
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:11.679
my red lights and then when I see eye shine,

1106
01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:14.079
I'll come back over here and set over here for

1107
01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:16.559
just a little bit. And then when I scan, I'm

1108
01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:20.199
more closer to the ground than I am where they're at.

1109
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:24.159
And I find using that red light, they don't retreat

1110
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:27.159
near as fast. I mean, I've had one stand there

1111
01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:30.400
and iron we just had a stare off, you know,

1112
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:32.159
in the middle of the night. But that night on

1113
01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:34.519
the river, I had five of them all around me

1114
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:36.880
because I can see the eye shine because I scanned

1115
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:39.440
over here. Boom, there's a set of eyes there's a

1116
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:43.159
set of eyes over here. Now, it wasn't no owls,

1117
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:46.280
it wasn't no farming or nothing like that. I mean

1118
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:48.639
their eyes are about that big around you can definitely

1119
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:51.360
tell squatch, you know. I've got five of them around,

1120
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:52.880
three on this side of the river and two on

1121
01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:55.440
this side of the river. And one of them boogered

1122
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.079
up my Germany shepherd when he got too close. Now

1123
01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:01.559
I'm setting the the banks are up here, and then

1124
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:04.800
the river comes down like this, and then it comes

1125
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:06.679
up there in the day and goes down at night.

1126
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:10.199
So I'm down there at night. And the one on

1127
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:12.519
this side that got real close, I could hear him.

1128
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:16.159
I could hear him, actually hear him walking coming up close.

1129
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:20.280
And in my first thinking, you know, from training and everything,

1130
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:25.079
I'm in a ambush spot. This is not good. And

1131
01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:28.159
my dog fired off, I mean hair on from the

1132
01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:30.440
tip of her nose to the timple of her tails.

1133
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:33.400
Man just shot straight up and I'm like, okay, she's

1134
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:36.000
laying it real hard into my leg. There's one real

1135
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:42.239
close and he he he huffed. Have you ever heard

1136
01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:44.840
one huff a bigfoot?

1137
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:49.880
Yeah, I've got I'm pretty sure I've got one recorded

1138
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:52.760
on video, and we didn't see.

1139
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:55.519
It because that was another form of communication. They yes,

1140
01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:59.320
often it's a huff. What I call a huff's I

1141
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.760
can identify. So he huffed a couple of times, and

1142
01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:05.159
then he grabbed a tree that was probably ten inches

1143
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:09.639
around and shook that tree like it was nothing, like

1144
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:14.000
it was just a bush. It was like ned shake

1145
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:16.280
it a little bit more. Of course, my Germany shepherd's

1146
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:18.440
about to lose her mind by that time. I got

1147
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.440
her own lace where she can't run off. And there's

1148
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:24.559
another thing, you know. They would always call my dog

1149
01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:29.159
to the woods. I don't know why, but I would

1150
01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:31.119
have to make her come out and say, now, I

1151
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:34.440
couldn't hear it vocally, I mean in my ears, I couldn't.

1152
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:37.159
I couldn't hear it. But she would perk up and

1153
01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:39.000
then she just start heading toward the woods and i'd

1154
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:41.079
have to pull her back. No, no, no, you don't

1155
01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:43.199
need to be around those guys. I knew what was

1156
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:46.079
taking place, but they would always call her, and she

1157
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:48.639
would always I mean, if she'd have want in the woods,

1158
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:50.559
she'd I don't know if they I don't think they

1159
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:54.119
would have heard her. But I don't know that for sure,

1160
01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:58.840
you know, I've heard them killing animals before, but you know,

1161
01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:01.800
calves and stuff like that. But yeah, I's spent a

1162
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:05.840
crazy ride, especially since since I went public, and it

1163
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:09.960
just like man, it's just like wow. And here's the

1164
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.880
cool thing about it is is, you know, looking at

1165
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:20.920
this in my faith is God has given me a

1166
01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:26.479
platform to speak to a lot of people who are unchurched,

1167
01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:35.520
have different beliefs than me. But within my talks, I

1168
01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:40.840
always go to my faith and I'm able to plug Jesus.

1169
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.800
I'm able to plug times running out. So God has

1170
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:50.520
given me an awesome, awesome platform to speak to all

1171
01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:53.760
kinds of people, not only about Bigfoot, but about Jesus,

1172
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:56.399
you know, and that's what I'm ab to do, tell

1173
01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:58.760
people about Jesus. So if I can mix the two up,

1174
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:02.159
bring people to Christ or encouraged their faith bless God,

1175
01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:02.840
let's get it.

1176
01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:07.359
Out, that's fantastic. So, and to make that really clear,

1177
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:11.319
so' and you're not just talking about because some people

1178
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:14.680
when they hear that on this show, they're probably like, oh, well,

1179
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:17.640
it's because he's talking about like maybe some people using

1180
01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:19.479
the name of Jesus and getting the big Foot out

1181
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:22.119
of there. But you're saying, even maybe going deeper than

1182
01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:25.920
that and talking, I'm guessing things like the gospel and

1183
01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:27.159
and things like that.

1184
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:32.399
Usually, when I start a talk in a area that

1185
01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:36.800
I've been invited to to speak, I did this once

1186
01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:39.720
and I'm gonna get back to it. But I pulled

1187
01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:47.960
up four volunteers and settlement chairs. Then I explain, try

1188
01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:53.359
to explain to the people that most bigfoot signings are

1189
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:57.239
three to five seconds. You know, people always say the

1190
01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:59.560
biggest thing I read, well, you know, all you guys,

1191
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:02.880
fuzzy pictures, all you gots this, this and this, and

1192
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:06.840
so I break that down to an encounter to the

1193
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:11.199
average person, most you know, statistically speaking, is three to

1194
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:15.800
five minutes. On an encounter. Number one, your mind is

1195
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:20.399
trying to register and put this thing in to perspective.

1196
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:24.119
What is this because that should not that. I that

1197
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:27.520
ain't supposed to be there. You know, I've heard about it,

1198
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.159
but that is not supposed to be there. And then

1199
01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:33.079
I go to him and I'm like, you know this

1200
01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:38.319
person over here, you know she's petrified. You know this

1201
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:40.520
guy over here on this end, he has tickled to

1202
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:43.800
death that he's just saw something that he's always heard

1203
01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:47.680
about and talk about the different types of sightings and

1204
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:50.560
how it affects people. You know, this guy over here's

1205
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:52.800
gonna be traumatized the rest of his life because of

1206
01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:56.119
this encounter. But yes, this guy's over here is you know,

1207
01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:59.840
singing Hallelujah, and I'll tell him, you know, it's it's

1208
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:04.319
I don't understand why people can't believe in this because

1209
01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:09.279
it's so simple. You know, take the Bible for instance. Okay,

1210
01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:14.000
let's just take the Gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

1211
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:16.279
I thought there was a ringo for a long time,

1212
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:19.640
but I never could find it maybe at a blographer,

1213
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:26.039
but I Ethiopian Bible. But but you have four people

1214
01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:34.960
with I witness to Jesus. Three of them spent three

1215
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:38.159
and a half years with him. The doctor Luke, you know,

1216
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:43.520
was there also. But you got three detailed accounts with

1217
01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:48.399
three different or four different perspectives of that account. But

1218
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:52.439
yet we believe those accounts by the history because it's

1219
01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:56.359
written down in book. So we've got the history. Not

1220
01:11:56.439 --> 01:11:58.960
only do we have the history, then we move into

1221
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.640
the the New Testament and we find the things that

1222
01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:06.800
Jesus practiced while he was here on earth. We believe

1223
01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:09.199
all that it takes faith to believe in all that.

1224
01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:13.560
And then you look at the Bigfoot world and we

1225
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:17.880
have thousands of videos, we have thousands of people all

1226
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:21.880
over the world talking about this, just like the Gospel,

1227
01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:27.000
and people are having different accounts. It affects them differently.

1228
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:29.920
You know, this person over here in this chair, they

1229
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:33.880
saw they ident on the on the shoulders, and this

1230
01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:36.159
one over here they ident on the eyes. You know,

1231
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:39.319
they homed in on those eyes. They remember those eyes,

1232
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:41.399
and not so much over here. And then this guy

1233
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:43.279
over here, you know, he sees the whole thing and

1234
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:47.039
he's just tickled to death that he hadn't encounter, you know,

1235
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:50.279
after looking for these suckers all the time. So why

1236
01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:53.560
is it so hard? We can take the Bible, and

1237
01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:56.039
I'm one of those guys as hardcore Bible. I believe

1238
01:12:56.079 --> 01:13:01.079
everything in the Bible is inspired by my mat and

1239
01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:08.920
we take that on faith that this is true. But

1240
01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:11.600
the same in the Bigfoot world. We've got thousands of videos,

1241
01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:14.600
We've got thousands recorded, got thousands of books on it

1242
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.960
of the same cotton picking thing, maybe just different size,

1243
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:21.680
different colors, and different parts of the world. Why do

1244
01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:29.319
we think that's foolish? When there's history that makes I think.

1245
01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:35.159
The first encounter that happened here in Arkansas was over

1246
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:40.640
by Memphis, and it was eighteen forty eighteen. The first

1247
01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:43.359
documented sighting of a wild man, that's what they called

1248
01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:48.479
them way back then, was wildman. You know how I mean,

1249
01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:52.880
don't close your mind off to this, because this is

1250
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:57.359
very very true. Now, I think the bigfoots. You know.

1251
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.680
Of course everybody thinks there's all this. Only the only

1252
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:03.760
thing I can think is what I have encountered, what

1253
01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:08.079
I've experienced myself. Some are good, some are bad, you know,

1254
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:12.520
and some are are in between. There's some short or

1255
01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:16.239
some fat. There's some I've never seen, not a real

1256
01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:19.520
ball headed one, you know. I've seen round heads like this.

1257
01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:23.319
I've seen cone heads. I've seen protruded here. I've seen

1258
01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:27.600
them with canines without canines. Now I have found this

1259
01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:32.000
very interesting. The ones that I have experienced that were

1260
01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:38.159
most hostile were the ones with canines. Oh wow, every time,

1261
01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:41.760
which I believe the one with the square teeth. Now,

1262
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:44.720
this is just my thinking. I could be wrong. If

1263
01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.479
I'm wrong, I'm mad enough to apologize that I was wrong.

1264
01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:51.960
But I think that the one with the square teeth

1265
01:14:52.560 --> 01:14:56.560
like the big buck horse teeth. Top ones are more docile,

1266
01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:59.880
and I believe they're more vegetarian with the one in

1267
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:04.560
canines are more of meat eaters and a little bit

1268
01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:05.399
more hostile.

1269
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:10.640
Yeah, that's that's extremely interesting.

1270
01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:14.119
Which is crazy. All I know is what I've seen

1271
01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:15.279
and heard.

1272
01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:20.439
Yeah, the Bigfoot communities is over. The whole subject is

1273
01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:26.439
so interesting because it's like you have a lot of

1274
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:32.000
inherited information. But then I mean, you have individuals like

1275
01:15:32.039 --> 01:15:37.640
yourself actually getting out there and is there something that

1276
01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:41.199
you have learned from interactions over the years that you

1277
01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:46.720
wish the community knew about Bigfoot that they might not

1278
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:47.520
necessarily know.

1279
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:54.199
Yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, that was a tough one.

1280
01:15:54.359 --> 01:16:03.840
I've never thought of that. Expect the unexpected, I guess

1281
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:05.880
would be the first thing. You know, never go in

1282
01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:08.479
the woods on arm. Don't ever going on the expedition.

1283
01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:14.199
And now now I'm not saying every Tom, Dick and

1284
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:16.159
Harriet should be out there with a gun because some

1285
01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:19.520
people don't know how to. You know, when we go

1286
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:23.680
on investigations, I carry a long gun in my head

1287
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:25.920
of security. I have a head of security. He's a

1288
01:16:25.960 --> 01:16:28.479
Marine Corps infantry guy. He knows how to have an

1289
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:31.960
old weapon. Also, I have a Marine Corps frontline medic

1290
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:34.520
that's on my team as well, and of course K

1291
01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:38.279
which you've been interacting with talking with. These are my

1292
01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:42.239
four main characters within our expedition, you know. So I

1293
01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.479
have a field medic that if anything goes to the rise,

1294
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:49.960
somebody you know, stumbles, you know, breaks their ankle or

1295
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:52.560
something springs their ankle or something like that, we have

1296
01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:58.920
medical on staff that can help. In my head of security,

1297
01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:02.560
his head is always the squivel, you know. But our expeditions,

1298
01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:05.800
I prefer people if they know and this is something

1299
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:09.359
that they have to talk to me personally. I want

1300
01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:11.199
to know if they can handle that weapon. But I

1301
01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:14.920
prefer everybody at least carry a handgun on their side.

1302
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:18.439
You know, don't shoot unless I tell you to shoot.

1303
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:24.479
And we've never had while we've been out with people. Well,

1304
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.079
you know, everybody wants see a big foot till the

1305
01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:28.600
bigfoot shows up some people.

1306
01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:32.399
Right and I'm there myself, like I haven't had a

1307
01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:34.920
visual yet, and I don't know how I've responded to either.

1308
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:36.640
It's like you never know, right.

1309
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:40.600
Well, just just you know, there's nothing that our God

1310
01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:43.720
can't do my friend, that's true. Next time he's no woods.

1311
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:45.079
And I do this a lot. I talk to my

1312
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:47.119
God a lot, and I'll just say, hey, God, I

1313
01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:49.960
like having encounter today. So I'm going down here in

1314
01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:52.640
these woods here, and they't never been down here, or

1315
01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:55.239
I have been down there. I liked having encounter on

1316
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:59.119
these rascals. You know. I find these rascals are more

1317
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:05.920
docile than the dog man. The dog man, them things

1318
01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:09.279
are off the chain. But you're talking about make your

1319
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:12.680
heart beat fast. That's a whole different animal, right there,

1320
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:17.640
A whole different cookie, but a lot different than the

1321
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:21.079
bigfoot world. I've only run into to a few to

1322
01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:23.600
a few. Matter of fact, I got one on camera

1323
01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:27.680
looking at me. He's kind of crouched down. He's looking

1324
01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:30.640
at me through a bunch of weeds sticking up and stuff.

1325
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:33.880
But you can tell you can't see his face per se,

1326
01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:37.720
but you can see the image with the canine ears

1327
01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:41.359
and stuff. Yeah, and that wouldn't know, wouldn't no bear,

1328
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:46.960
wouldn't no dog, with no coyote. He just sat there

1329
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:48.680
and growled at me. And that's when I'm backed down

1330
01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:53.079
the wood and I was pound Lord Jesus Now you

1331
01:18:53.159 --> 01:18:55.479
got to keep this risk off of me. Now I'm

1332
01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:56.880
back down the woods real quick.

1333
01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:00.920
That the dog Man's man. That's stuff I try to

1334
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:04.840
I have no desire to get involved with anything like that,

1335
01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:08.399
And I mean it could happen though if I If

1336
01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:12.119
you go into areas like that, sometimes they just you've

1337
01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:13.880
got big foot in dog Man and they kind of

1338
01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:16.119
are in similar areas. And that's just the thing you

1339
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:19.479
have to deal with. But so you have an entire team,

1340
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:23.359
that's really interesting. Is it a thing where you're just

1341
01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:26.760
going out with that team or is there times where

1342
01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:30.159
you're taking people out there in addition to the team

1343
01:19:30.359 --> 01:19:31.680
or both.

1344
01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:34.920
We set up expeditions. We do one in the spring,

1345
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:37.880
one in the fall, and we're thinking about at a

1346
01:19:37.920 --> 01:19:40.920
third one. I don't know where we're going. Usually we

1347
01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:43.840
go out on New Year's Eve that might end up

1348
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:47.359
being the third one and stand out in the woods. Now,

1349
01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:49.840
we have a lot of people who contact us that

1350
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:53.239
want us to come out and investigate their land. Now,

1351
01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:56.880
if we're doing an investigation like that, then it's usually

1352
01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:04.319
me Ka, my head of security and his wife and

1353
01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:08.239
the medic and his wife go out there, you know,

1354
01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:11.680
and it's private investigation. So you know, we don't give

1355
01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:14.479
any locations out or anything. We just go out there

1356
01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:17.119
and see if we can, uh you know, cause a

1357
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:23.039
response or an encounter. Because the land landowners, like some

1358
01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:28.319
of them, how do I say this, Some of them

1359
01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:32.680
are quite scared and oh yeah, they just want it gone.

1360
01:20:34.039 --> 01:20:40.600
So it's I don't think people so yeah, man, I

1361
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:44.640
wish I wish listeners understood that too, because or they

1362
01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:48.600
might all understand it. But a lot of stuff where

1363
01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:51.199
I'm talking to people doesn't even make it to the show.

1364
01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:53.439
And it's just me talking to people like I don't

1365
01:20:53.439 --> 01:20:55.159
know what to do on freaked out and they're just

1366
01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:57.680
freaked out of their mind. And that's that's understandable because

1367
01:20:57.680 --> 01:21:00.279
they got someone something beaten on their house. Us are

1368
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:03.079
trying to get inside, and it's just things can get

1369
01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:05.239
really really scary really quick.

1370
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:09.199
You know, Oh it can't it can these critters. I mean,

1371
01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:14.800
I've I've been challenged a lot over my life where

1372
01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:21.800
they be man or beast and uh uh and some

1373
01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:29.399
of it is real challenged, but in every every every

1374
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:33.760
encounter is excitable. You know, some if I get the

1375
01:21:34.119 --> 01:21:40.000
overwhelming fear or dread, you know, I'm very cautious on

1376
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.600
that one too, But like when I was a twelve

1377
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:45.800
year old kid, you know, I freak plumb out, you

1378
01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:48.159
know with that one. And that's generally what people do

1379
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:52.039
when they're coming up slapping their house, you know, they

1380
01:21:52.119 --> 01:21:58.279
got chickens, come up missing, goats, you know, cats, dogs,

1381
01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:01.239
you know, come up missing, and then they call us

1382
01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:03.680
out and we'll go out there and take a look around,

1383
01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:06.880
you know, investigate your property, and then we set up

1384
01:22:07.359 --> 01:22:09.960
if we need to go back, you know, after we

1385
01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:14.079
leave the property, if the landowner still has problems, then

1386
01:22:14.119 --> 01:22:18.479
we'll we'll go back out there and help you with

1387
01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:19.319
the problem.

1388
01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:25.119
That's really cool, super David. This has been a fantastic conversation.

1389
01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:29.359
I mean, my goodness, I know you are starting to

1390
01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:31.399
come out starting to write a book right now, is

1391
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:31.720
that right?

1392
01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:35.319
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, they get that thing finished. We found

1393
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:39.640
a publisher, which was they contacted us, so that was cool,

1394
01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:41.239
fair enough.

1395
01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:45.840
Yeah, so we'll be looking forward to that and let

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01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:49.520
us know when that is out. I'm sure you'll reach

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01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:51.720
out and then we can get the word out about that.

1398
01:22:51.800 --> 01:22:54.560
But do you mind taking a few minutes. You know,

1399
01:22:56.279 --> 01:22:59.800
I'm kind of curious, you know, how people could reach

1400
01:22:59.800 --> 01:23:03.000
out to you maybe if they're you know, curious about

1401
01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:05.560
like expeditions, or if they want you to check out

1402
01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:10.359
their property, or just how where they can hear you

1403
01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:12.479
speak any any type of information.

1404
01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:17.840
Yeah, of course there's always Facebook aka Sasquatch. They can

1405
01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:22.960
get me on on Facebook by either putting an aka

1406
01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:28.199
Sasquatch or super Dave. They'll see my picture YouTube, same

1407
01:23:28.279 --> 01:23:30.960
thing a k just do a search for a Ka

1408
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:35.560
Sasquatchuh'll take them to our YouTube page. And then we're

1409
01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:39.159
constantly or I'm not k is. She constantly puts out

1410
01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:42.640
videos and puts out on the page and stuff. And

1411
01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:45.439
what people do is they it's like we got a

1412
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:48.600
Fall one coming up, and I haven't decided yet where

1413
01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:51.159
we're going to, where we're going to have the Fall expedition.

1414
01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:56.479
You know, we've already got people signed up for that. Genterally,

1415
01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.399
what they do is they can either read shot on

1416
01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:07.159
one of these pages and DM like Ka has control

1417
01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:10.760
over all these because she answers all the questions and stuff.

1418
01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:14.960
I don't. I'm just real, real busy doing other things

1419
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:17.359
and she's real good at that. So they can send

1420
01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:20.680
their email and we can get them on a mailing list,

1421
01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:23.359
and we don't push, no spam, We don't ask for

1422
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:26.720
money or anything like that. It just lets them know

1423
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:32.560
where I'll be speaking, how the book's coming, when the

1424
01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:37.199
next expedition is coming up, you know, whatever I'm doing.

1425
01:24:37.279 --> 01:24:40.319
She puts out there and you can get You can

1426
01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:43.520
find her on k leaves. That's like a g with

1427
01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:46.439
leaves at the end. You can look up her page

1428
01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:49.720
and contact her personally because she handles all that stuff,

1429
01:24:52.039 --> 01:24:54.199
so I'm easy to find.

1430
01:24:56.199 --> 01:25:01.079
That's fantastic and I'm sure h it sounds like maybe

1431
01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:05.920
in the future he might you know, be releasing video.

1432
01:25:06.359 --> 01:25:09.319
Uh maybe maybe not, but that would be a thing

1433
01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:13.239
where you would you would know, make sure you're following

1434
01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:16.000
social media pages, but definitely familing.

1435
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:20.520
With so especially my YouTube page. I've got I've got

1436
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:23.079
a live time of stuff that I ain't even got,

1437
01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:27.199
you know, I've got uh what's that camera Portland World camera?

1438
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:32.119
Oh yeah, pictures the first instant camera to ever come out.

1439
01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:35.439
You know. Uh, there's just a ton of stuff that

1440
01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:37.640
I haven't put out. Of course, I just come clean

1441
01:25:37.760 --> 01:25:39.319
with it, you know, I just come out of the closet,

1442
01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:42.319
so to speak. You know about my big foot encounters

1443
01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:46.680
and everything. Uh. And that's the hardest part is you know,

1444
01:25:46.800 --> 01:25:49.800
doing the podcast, doing the speaking, going out there and

1445
01:25:49.840 --> 01:25:53.399
doing the boots to the ground. I enjoy all that

1446
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:56.880
so much, but when you get back, you've got you know,

1447
01:25:57.079 --> 01:25:59.600
usually I set out five soundtraps and I wear one

1448
01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:01.960
on my f you know, I got camera traps set

1449
01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:05.920
out everywhere. I've got audio video and all this stuff

1450
01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:08.159
has to be brought into a file and then you

1451
01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:10.920
have to go through filter all this stuff. It's crazy

1452
01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:14.159
and clip out what you want. It takes hours to

1453
01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:16.840
put that stuff together. That's where I'm finding and the

1454
01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:19.680
hardest part of this stuff is is being able to

1455
01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:21.319
having the time to do all that.

1456
01:26:21.800 --> 01:26:26.000
It really is. You almost need like someone that has

1457
01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:29.159
all your knowledge and can look through all the stuff

1458
01:26:29.199 --> 01:26:31.960
that you because it takes so long to go through audio.

1459
01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:33.760
That gets me too, it's just right.

1460
01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:36.039
But you've got to bring somebody to come along on

1461
01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:38.600
the team that can be like a media specialist to

1462
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:41.920
put all that stuff together. Yeah, CA's real good about

1463
01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:44.840
putting videos together and stuff. We don't know too much

1464
01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:47.600
about YouTube and whatnot. We've got to figure out how

1465
01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:49.840
to connect them all together. And we post on one

1466
01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:52.079
post on all. I mean, there's a lot of ins

1467
01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:54.239
and outs we still got to figure out, you know,

1468
01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:55.920
but we're new to the game.

1469
01:26:56.239 --> 01:27:00.479
And it's it's a learning it's a learning process for sure.

1470
01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:04.920
But man, super Dave aka Sasquatch, what a fun conversation

1471
01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:09.479
you have been through one side to the other. And

1472
01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:13.760
I'll definitely be falling along to see you know when

1473
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:17.720
your book comes out and to see where you go next.

1474
01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:19.920
So thank you so much for hanging out on the

1475
01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:21.119
show today with me.

1476
01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:25.279
You bet the title of that book would be Sasquatch

1477
01:27:25.319 --> 01:27:29.840
in your Face by the Bigfoot Preacher Awesome aka Sasquatch

1478
01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:35.720
my closest encounter I ever had. Good another one, well,

1479
01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:37.920
cool man, I appreciate you having me on your channel.

1480
01:27:41.079 --> 01:27:43.359
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1481
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:46.640
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1482
01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:50.439
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1483
01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:53.279
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1484
01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:56.600
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1485
01:27:56.600 --> 01:28:00.079
to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something

1486
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:03.039
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

1487
01:28:03.159 --> 01:28:07.039
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled

1488
01:28:07.119 --> 01:28:09.960
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

1489
01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:13.520
you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

1490
01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:17.159
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If

1491
01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:20.880
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1492
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or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1493
01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:27.560
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1494
01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:31.439
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1495
01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:34.840
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1496
01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:37.840
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1497
01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:41.359
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1498
01:28:42.039 --> 01:28:45.159
or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

1499
01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:48.560
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1500
01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:53.359
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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1503
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carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

1504
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We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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