Aug. 10, 2026

Glowing-Eyed Skunk Ape Stuns Teenagers at Loxahatchee Wildlife Refuge, Florida

Glowing-Eyed Skunk Ape Stuns Teenagers at Loxahatchee Wildlife Refuge, Florida
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Season 1

One summer evening in 1977, three teenagers walked toward the edge of Florida's Loxahatchee Wildlife Refuge and came face-to-face with an eight-foot-tall Skunk Ape. Standing motionless just yards away, the creature's glowing red eyes, powerful build, and unmistakable odor created a moment none of them would ever forget.


Carol Stanhope joins Bigfoot Society to share her unforgettable encounter, along with the remarkable history of Skunk Ape reports throughout Palm Beach County during the 1970s—including accounts involving sheriff's deputies, farmers, and security guards.


Later in the episode, the conversation expands across North America with firsthand experiences from Ontario, Northern Quebec, Oklahoma, Virginia, Iowa, and Oregon. You'll hear reports of tree knocks, mysterious rock throwing, tracks deep in remote forests, powwow encounters, possible gifting behavior, and a child's startling visual sighting during a family prayer.


Every story comes directly from the people who experienced it. Listen all the way through and decide for yourself what may be living just beyond the tree line.

Resources:

https://fdc.com/blog/florida-skunk-ape-cryptids/

https://www.westpalmbeach.com/the-skunk-ape/

https://www.facebook.com/carol.stanhope.52/

https://nonstatetorture.org

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us.

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Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his

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fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey,

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please go to the caring Bridge link in the show notes.

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Thank you all right, Big for Society, You goet the

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privilege of talking to Carol today. Carol is a individual.

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She's a human rights activist and author from the Palm Springs,

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Florida area. But we are talking today about a very

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interesting experience she had back in the nineteen seventies in Florida.

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And so Carol, welcome to the show. How are you

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doing today?

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Oh? Thanks for having me? How are you doing today.

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You know, I'm doing all right.

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We were talking a little bit before things started, and

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still at the point once this releases, i'll be into treatment.

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But right now, before treatment, I'm feeling pretty good physically.

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We're just hoping and praying that that continues and not

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a lot of side effects once treatment starts, but hope

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and pray for the best, you know. But Carol, this

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sounds like a very interesting thing you had happened back

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in the nineteen seventies, but you have some interesting information

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that even goes further back that you would like to

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share as well.

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Right, Yeah, Yeah, we live on the edge of the

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Northern Everglades here in Palm Beach County. One of the

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well known sites is called the Locks that had Wildlife Refuge,

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and that's where many of the sidings in and around

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that area is. There's a big park there. There's actually

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scientists doing air, water and soil samples there, so it's

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kind of like it's kind of like Skunkate Central. So

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I guess I'll just go into the incidents that led

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up to the siding that my friends and I had

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up in the summer of nineteen seventy seven. So we're

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starting out with two sheriff's deputies called Marvin Lewis and

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Ernie Milner, and this was in the Lantana area in

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nineteen seventy four, and apparently they had come face to

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face with a rather large skunk ape I guess. I

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guess it was very aggressive towards them. They took a

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shot at it. I do believe they gret and then

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I think it ran off into the woods. And then

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there was it was like a spate of different encounters.

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And then the second one is a gentleman by the

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name of Buddy Starrett. He was a farmer in Lantana, Florida,

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and this was also I think September of nineteen seventy four,

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and he came face to face with skuncpe in his barnyard,

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which proceeded to pick up one of his one hundred

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pound hogs and run off into the woods with it.

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So that was very shocking for that poor gentleman. And

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then there was another incident right after that in Wellington, Florida,

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which is the equestrian center kind of like well I

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guess of the world actually, and it was a gentleman

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by the name of Carrie Canter, and I think he

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was a security guard in a wealthy neighborhood in the

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equestrian center, and an aggressive skuncatee came out of the woods,

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and I guess he came face to face with it,

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and he took a shot at it and apparently wounded it,

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and then I guess it just ran back off into

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the marsh. So those were the you know, those were

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the very credible sightings, you know, that led up to

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the sighting that my friends and I had, which fast

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forwards to August of nineteen seventy seven. We were just

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a bunch of hippies in Boynton Beach, Florida, which is

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where the Locks of Hatchie Wildlife Refuge is. It's a

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very well known place, and we had a rope swing

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out there, you know, just a bunch of kids, you know,

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having fun doing flips into the water. Sometimes there would

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be fifty two, one hundred of us, you know, that

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would go out there and just hang out in the summertime.

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And in this balmy August day in nineteen seventy seven,

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we're just having a good time and it was getting

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to be around dusk and me and my two friends

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were packing up and my girlfriend, my girlfriend looks up

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to the tree line, which is about I don't know,

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maybe twelve maybe twelve or fourteen yards away from where

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we were standing, Like the tree line was on the

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edge of the marsh. And she looked up and she goes, y'all,

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what is that? And there was a eight foot auburn

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colored skunk ape that was staring at us. And it

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was so it was scary and it was comical at

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the same time because my my two friends and I

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froze and the skunk a froze and it was like

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a stand up. We were just standing there staring at

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each other. I mean, we were so incredibly, so incredibly scared,

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and this thing had like it was at dusk. This

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thing had glowing red eyes. And I'll tell you I've

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never been so scared in my life. And I'll tell

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you also that ever since that sighting in August of

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nineteen seventy seven, I've had a lot of supernatural experiences

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I believe because of that.

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That is absolutely fascinating. Carol.

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I have a few questions for you. First off, regarding

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the accounts you were sharing at the beginning. Are those

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stories that you heard, are those from the newspaper articles

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you read.

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Yes, yes, and I did send you the links for.

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Those, gotcha? Okay, very good.

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Just wanted to double check on those, so I will

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have those, I believe. Yeah, you sent a few links

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in these show notes, so listeners can do some research

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on on those as well. So you your citing is

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about fourteen yards away, and what was the what was

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the do you remember like the muscular structure of what

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you were looking at? Was it lanky? Was it very muscular?

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What were you talking?

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He was lanky like he was lanky like a basketball player,

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kind of like a maybe a Larry Bird or a

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or Michael Jordan. He wasn't he wasn't fat. He was

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just tall. He was like a It's like an oak tree.

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It was very very It reminded me of that movie

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Scared Stiff. We just we just stood there in suspended animation.

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We were so so scared. And my girlfriend, my best friend,

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is the one who spotted him standing in the tree line,

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right at the edge of the marsh.

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Okay, so just in the treeline, frozen, eight foot tall,

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auburn with glowing red eyes.

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Yeah, and very stinky, wet dog and sulfur, mostly sulfur,

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very sulfur, and I still and it's funny, Jeremiah. Later

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on as an adult, I became a property manager, and

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I ended up going and and uh managing the properties

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where the scientists live out there. Now they're taking water,

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water and soil and air samples which is going to

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help to facilitate the rebuilding of the Kassimi River. And

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so I ended up working for doctor Eric Klein who's

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running the Lilah Project, which is the land assessment thing

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how they're trying to restore all of the ecosystem. So

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it's funny, it's things kept drawing me back to that,

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to that area. It's really strange.

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That that is a really interesting way that you were

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able to get back to that area. So you mentioned

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it was at dusk, So were you able to see

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details about it? Maybe not one hundred percent because it

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was dusk or or what what do you feel about that?

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Yeah, he was very well he was very well defined

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and very very well capped like not. I mean it

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looks like he just came out of the marsh. Because

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that section of the of the everglades, which is called

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the Locks of Hatchet Wildlife Refuge. I think that section

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that hooks up to the other million or so is

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around forty thousand acres, So he came out of like

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a forty thousand acre like sawgrass marsh. But he didn't

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look like really messy. He looked like he was pretty well,

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pretty well, kept pretty well, you know, kept himself, groomed

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himself well, but very a lot of definition in the chest.

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And I just remember those big glowing coal like they

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were like glowing glowing coals, you know, on a barbecue.

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That's all I can remember. It was very, very scary,

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and we and we went back to my girlfriend's house

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that night, and we were so terrified we did we didn't.

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We closed the shades and we didn't want to see

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anybody or anything, just absolutely frozen with terror.

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Wow. How old would you and your friends ben around

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that time?

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I was fifteen and my friends were eighteen and twenty.

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Okay, that's that's wild.

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Some witnesses describe what they see as having facial features

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more human like or sometimes more ape like. Would you

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describe what you saw towards either one of those or

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maybe something completely different?

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I would say the stereotypical of a picture of what

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a neanderthal looks like. Okayand a Neanderthal face is what

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we saw, and I will never I'll never forget it

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as long as I live, and my life has had

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my life has had a lot of supernatural and paranormal

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experiences ever since then, which is going to be fifty years,

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you know, next well, the following August twenty twenty seven.

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And that's a conversation we wanted I would like to

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get into in a few minutes for listeners who have

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not seen a picture of Neanderthal, what are some features

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of that face that that that jump out in your

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memory that would make you lean towards Neanderthal features?

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Uh, very pronounced eyebrow ridges, deep set eyes and pronounced

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eyebrow ridges.

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Okay, interesting, were you and a.

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Big and a big like spread out you know, like

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a flat kind of well not an ape nose, but

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more of a flat spread out nose. But those but

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those eyes and those those those deep set eyes and

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those eyebrow ridges are really what what grabs you.

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Was it completely covered with hair?

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Not the chest, uh, The the head had a very

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long mane, the the chest, the chest was bear You

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could see the definition in the chest. The arms, the

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arms had a lot of hair and and the legs,

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but but the but the chest was very defined and

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and no hair on it. Okay, and there was a

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very strong salt smell.

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Gotcha. How long was the.

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Main I would say maybe four to five inches long?

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Okay?

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Were you able to tell if it was a male

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or female?

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In any way?

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I did not see any genitalia. I did. Maybe it

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was because it was obscured in the tree line and

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it was it was getting towards you know, dark dark

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mm hmm.

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Absolutely, but I did not.

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I did not, and I didn't see any and I

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didn't see any pronounced man mary glands either, So I

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can I can venture. I guess it may have been

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a male.

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Sure, yeah, absolutely.

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Remind me again how the end of the encounter when

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you I remember there you guys were staring at each other.

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Everyone was frozen. It had glowing red eyes. But how

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did it end?

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Again?

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It seemed like an hour that we had this stare off,

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but it was probably more like about five minutes. And

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after we gained our composure and realized what we were

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looking at. And I don't know if it was my

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girlfriend or her brother said that is a f n BF,

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meaning a bigfoot, And I don't know. We still called

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it bigfoot here back then. I don't know why, but

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we jumped in his truck and we we burned rubber

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down the gravel road and we didn't. I never went

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back there again until I was an adult, which was

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like probably starting about fifteen years ago. That's when I

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started working for doctor Eric Klein, who runs the Lila

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out There Land Assessment. They take water, water, soil, and

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air samples, you know, for restoration of the Kassimi River

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to restore the you know, the to restore the habitat.

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Fascinating.

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Let's see, after you burn rubber out of there, you

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guys are obviously talking amongst yourselves. Was there a time

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after that then you told someone else that wasn't there

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about what had happened, or did you wait a while

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to share that with anyone not present?

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Yeah? Yeah, because we figured everybody would think we were crazy.

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And you know, we did tell our immediate families about it,

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but they gave us the furral diye brows. But you know,

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Palm Beach County has had a lot of sightings, even

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more so than what I told you in the beginning

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of the interview. I mean, we're not We're not skunk eight.

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This isn't a skunk ep theory. This is a skunk

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eight fact. Many, many credible people, including you know, cops, judges, lawyers,

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people from all walks of life have seen these things.

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And you know, I was, I was sober, insane as

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a judge, and so were my friends that day. And

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we know what we saw and there wasn't there wasn't

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anything else that could have been.

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Fascinating.

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I was actually just going to ask that if so,

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you were one hundred percent sober from any substances that would.

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Have Yeah, yeah, we weren't. Yeah, we were just out.

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We were just out having fun, doing flips on the

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the rope swing. There's like a little shell pit off

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to the side of the marsh, and you know, just

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having phone with our friends.

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So you're fifteen years old after that. You know, sometimes

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you talk to witnesses and their experience makes their life

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go in a certain way based on you know, focused

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on if they are into bigfoot, they're trying to figure

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out what it is, or sometimes I don't want anything

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to do with it. Did it affect your future life

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in any way?

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Having that experience, I seem to be more protected in

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my life, like from from danger, you know, like like

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near missus with car accidents and stuff. It was really strange.

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It seemed like it didn't seem like it had a

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negative effect on my life. It seemed like it had

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a positive effect almost like I was like protected from

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like near miss you know, car accidents, all kinds of things.

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It's really strange. I've seen a lot of a lot

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of supernatural phenomenon.

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That is fascinating. I definitely want to get into that.

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So how how soon after that was that you started

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to notice supernatural or paranormal type things happening in your life.

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It was probably when I got married a few years later.

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I got married very young at eighteen, which was you know,

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typical amongst the hippies, not only here in Palm Beach County,

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but pretty much probably nationwide, if not worldwide. And I

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just I've even seen people don't believe it, but I've

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seen manifestations of angels too, like I've seen the Angel Raphael.

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I mean, I don't care who doesn't believe it, but

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I believe that the Angel Raphael is present in my life.

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And I believe he's my guardian angel because I have

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seen him.

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That's fascinating. Did you ever have any Some individuals report

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having everything from from.

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Dreams to.

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Messages in different ways. Is that anything that you've experienced

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as well?

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Yes, more like dreams of comfort, like you know, after

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a divorce and everything, I ended up in a very

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bad way, kind of like disenfranchise and like I had

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angelic What do you call it comfort? Like comforting dreams

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like it's gonna be okay, and you know, and and

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I'm okay now, I mean, I'm I'm an I'm a

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published author. I've been human rights activists even on a

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un level for twenty years. So I mean, I just

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feel like this encounter bestowed a lot of blessing. I

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feel like this encounter bestowed a lot of blessings on

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my life. Is the best way to sum it up.

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That's that's awesome. I love that.

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You mentioned working with scientists down the same area, and

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I have a few questions about that in your discussion

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with the scientists. Has it ever come up where you know,

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back in the seventies, I actually had something weird happen.

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Has that ever come up or you kind of just

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leave that off to the side.

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No, we were I worked for a property management company,

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and we kept the quarters for doctor Eric Klein, who's

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run the Lilah Land Assessment project there in the locks

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of Hatche Wildlife Refuge. I think that he's been out

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there for over twenty years, and I do believe he

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originates at the University of Iowa as well. Very nice

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guy and he's very focused, very focused on making sure

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that this restoration of the Kassimi River, you know, is

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seen through to its you know, completion. So no, you know,

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I you know, they said little things, they said little things. Yeah,

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we've seen stuff because those boys go out on those

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air boats in the back four thousand acres and of

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course they've seen it, but they're not going to tell

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the property managers, you know, outright what they've seen. But

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we all, we all have the knowing looks. We know

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that they're out there, but you know, we all have

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our reputations to protect as well.

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Oh, I totally totally get it.

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Have you had any other big foot encounters yourself since

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that time in the seventies.

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No, I have not. That was the only one, but

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I would love to see another one. I was in

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northern California last year and I wished I could have

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got up to, you know, a Willow Creek or bluff

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what was it the bluff? The bluffs over there. I

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wish I could have done that, but I want to

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go back, or I'd even like to go to the

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Olympic Peninsula because I'm kind of a I kind of

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like laser focused on this. I've even got my T shirt,

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my classic Hide and Seek T shirt on today because

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I just I love I love the cryptive genre so much.

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It is a really I think it's one of those

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and it's one of those genres and especially you know,

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Bigfoot related where there's so much information in our culture

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that's available online on the internet, on computers, and it's

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one of those where we don't have the information. So

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it's like one of those last great mysteries, you know,

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And I think that really draws us in as humans.

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We have to figure it out and or experience it,

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you know, there's different ways to look at it. But

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why is it that you would want to have another experience?

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Is there a certain reason why you would want to

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have another sighting?

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Yes, because it hasn't had a negative effect on my life.

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I believe I believe that some type of spiritual goodness

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was just you know, bestowed upon my friends and I

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during that encounter. So, I mean it was fearful looking.

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I mean it was an imposing you're to look at

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something eight feet tall with glowing red eyes. But it

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hasn't it hasn't negatively affected my life. I feel like

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it's I feel like it's had a positive impact on

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my life. So I want some more of that.

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Absolutely, No, I get that too. It's like.

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You have these experiences and I've had some myself out

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in Oregon in Iowa where I'm from, and once you

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have a really awesome positive experience. I've never had a

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visual yet, but I've just had some really weird stuff happen.

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It is very.

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You do want more of it. It's addictive, has such

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a bad connotation, but in a way, it kind of is.

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Now since that time in the seventies, have you heard

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of any other experiences or encounters happening in that same

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area or same region.

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No, And I believe the reason is is because we

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haven't experienced such a dramatic drought. And they even the

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cops around here said that they believe that the spate

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of bigfoot sightings that we had between let's say seventy

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two and seventy eight were precipitated by the drought, so

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the the skunk gates came more into the rim canals,

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you know, to get water and food and whatever the

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case may be. But that's that's the rationale that they

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give for why all that was happening in that like

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six year period.

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That's really really interesting, Okay, very very very cool. It'd

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be interesting if they're listeners that have also had experiences

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in the same area or know of more recent ones.

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Feel free to send me an email a big facietygmail

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dot com, or you can send me.

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You can put it in the comments too. It's you're

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You're definitely have a better.

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Chance of getting through if you send me an email though,

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because the comments are pretty well there's a lot of

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them to get through. So now, just curious, in the

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same area down there, do you have to deal with

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other strange things or is it just skunky in this area?

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Yeah, I've seen after that, Like I said, Jeremiah, after

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that encounter in seventy seven, I've seen I've seen floating orbs.

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Like I was at a barbecue one time, I think

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it was I think it was in the January of

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nineteen eighty, which would have been you know, almost three

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years later. We saw like orbs over my friend's house

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and like glowing, like glowing glowing orbs. Some of them

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were green, some of them were silver. Yeah, just like

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super natural like phenomenon and apparitions that there's a lot

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of that. There's a lot of that around here. And

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people are like, well, that's swamp gas or that's will

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of the wisp. Well some of it might be, but

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I don't think all of it is. I mean, if

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I'm at my friend's house in the suburbs, I don't

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think that's what the will of the wisp, you know.

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No, absolutely How big were these orbs you were seeing

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in the eighties.

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One was pretty big. The green one was probably eight

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to ten feet in diameter. It was huge, and me

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and my friends were just we were just like gaga

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staring at this thing, and everybody was like trying to rationalize,

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you know, what it was. But like I said, Jeremiah,

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I link all of these other you know, strange encounters

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back to the original Skuncpe sighting in August of nineteen

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seventy seven. And you know, if I wouldn't have seen

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it myself. I wouldn't have believed all the other accounts.

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But like I said, we've we've had cops, judges, and

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lawyers in this county, and we know that they're.

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Here one hundred percent. How far away from you, guys?

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Was that that eight to ten foot diameter or the

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green one?

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Would you say, oh it was? I'd say it was

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hovering maybe twenty feet above above my friend's house. Wow, okay,

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and this was during it like a barbecue.

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Did it just suddenly float away or how is the

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ending of that encounter?

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Yeah, it hovered for several minutes and then it just

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like it just like Rose. It just like Rose. I

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don't know if something like snatched it back up, if

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there was something else in the cloudset snatched it back up,

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but then it just rose quickly and it like dissipated.

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It was really strange. Hadn't look it up, but I

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understand that a lot of these phenomenon happen on what's

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called lay lines, So that's something that I have to

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look up. I don't know if this section of South Florida,

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you know, is on a lay line, that would be

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something interesting to check out.

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Lay Lines are so weird. Because it is. It's a

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fascinating subject. But it's not like there's like, if you

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look up lay lines map, you're going to see tons

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of them, and it's not like they're Okay, this is

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the official lay lines map. But when you look at

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the map and you're like, Okay, it goes through this area,

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in this area, in this area, you're like, that kind

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of makes sense because these are weird areas, right, So

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I think it's something to consider for sure. You mentioned

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that you also have had experiences with apparitions as well.

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Is that anything that you could share about.

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Yeah, it was really strange. I think it was about

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four years ago when my daughter was uh graduating from

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the University of Florida, and I decided to take the

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the amtrak UH to and from my daughter's graduation because

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I just wanted to, you know, enjoy looking at the

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scenery and have a couple of cocktails you know, on

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the h the bar car and stuff, and and so

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that was all good. I went to my my daughter's graduation,

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and then on the trip back, I was sitting I

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was sitting outside waiting for the return train, you know,

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to come to take me back to Palm Beach. From

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Gainesville and and I took a selfie of myself smiling

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with a peace sign to send to my daughter, saying, Okay,

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I made it to the I made it to the

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train station, and I'm okay, and I'm on my way

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back to Palm Beach and Jeremiah whenever, whenever. I took

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that selfie, and then I blew it up, and and

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the background of the selfie was, uh, the the tree line,

473
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the tree line that was behind the train station. It

474
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:08.119
was the actually my backdrop of the selfie, there was

475
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:12.480
like a it was like a picture of the Hell realm.

476
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:15.519
And my daughter still has that picture. There was like

477
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:20.319
all these like goofy distorted faces. I mean, it wasn't

478
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:23.480
like abstract you could make out that there's all these goofy,

479
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:29.440
devilish faces like sticking their tongues out doing bunny airs

480
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:32.039
on each other. I mean it was. I sent it

481
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.559
to like a few of my friends and family and

482
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.680
they're like, wow, it's like you captured the Hell Realm.

483
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.440
And it was just by accident. You know. I know

484
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.880
people won't believe this, but I've seen so many I've

485
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.480
been through and seen so many things that I know

486
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.839
that there's a spiritual realm, and I did capture the

487
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.960
hell realm at the Gainesville Amtrak I think it was

488
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:57.920
probably twenty summer of twenty twenty two.

489
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.119
No, there's definitely a spiritual realm. I'm with you on

490
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:09.400
that for sure. No matter people don't like it or not,

491
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.960
there is more going on than.

492
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:15.599
We realize sometimes. For sure.

493
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.880
Are there any other things that you would want to

494
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:23.200
share that you feel are connected to what happened back

495
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.039
in the seventies or that came about because of that.

496
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.240
I don't know. I just felt like, I don't mean

497
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:36.519
to keep, you know, keep repeating myself, but I just

498
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:39.839
felt like my skunk ape encounter in August of nineteen

499
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:43.200
seventy seven put some kind of an umbrella of protection

500
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:48.160
on my life. I've had, you know, I've had problems

501
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.200
like everybody's had. I've had health issues and everything, but

502
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.160
something just always snatches me out of the fire, and

503
00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:02.319
I'm always okay. And maybe there's different maybe there's different

504
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:07.559
factions of bigfoots and skun Gapes and sasquatches, maybe you know,

505
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:11.559
maybe they're not of all of the same spiritual orientation.

506
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.359
But I just happen to think that the one that

507
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.720
we saw, you know, in the locks of Hatchey Wildlife

508
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.359
Refuge in seventy seven was a good one because I've

509
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:24.599
I've had I've had a lot of good experiences because

510
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:26.799
of it.

511
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:32.759
It's fascinating to think about. For sure, there could be

512
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:34.960
good ones, there could be bad ones, and there's many

513
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.640
different ways to look at that. But you know, maybe

514
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:39.880
one more question, Caroly, and thank you so much for

515
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:45.359
spending some time with us today. Sure, I'm sure or

516
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:48.480
most witnesses, you know, they have that one experience and

517
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.799
then it's years and years and years and you're constantly

518
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:56.599
replaying over in your mind. Have you ever tried to

519
00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:01.000
think of what you feel a skun gape is. Some

520
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:05.960
people are thinking they could be some undiscovered ape, or

521
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.119
it could be some ancestor of human or maybe something

522
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:12.119
else completely. Do you do you have any thoughts about

523
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.839
what it is you may have encountered that day.

524
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:20.240
Something something in me tends to think that it's some

525
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:28.480
kind of human Neanderthal highbred that crossed the Bearing Straight

526
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:34.640
land Bridge. However, many millennia go, you know, that's that's

527
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:39.519
what I kind of lean towards.

528
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.400
It's a it's a really good hypothesis. And I think.

529
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:47.759
I think a lot of people if you're thinking about

530
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:51.319
you know, it's a some kind of Neanderthal human cousin

531
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.640
just kind of makes sense. It would come over the

532
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.839
land Bridge as a lot of different things came over

533
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:02.079
back then. But it's fast conversation. We don't get a

534
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:07.079
lot of things from Florida on the show. And I'm

535
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.599
glad that you you reached out again to me, Carol.

536
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:11.800
I know we had I think we had talked through

537
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.199
email maybe a year or so ago too, And I'm

538
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:20.440
glad you reached out again. It's fascinating conversation. For any

539
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:24.719
other thoughts you had before before we wrap up our

540
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:25.880
time together today.

541
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:29.280
No, brother, I just want to say I love your show,

542
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:33.000
I love your content. You know, keep on keeping on

543
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.639
and you know, and I wish you. I wish you health,

544
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:38.320
wealth and success. Love your show.

545
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.840
Thank you so much, Carol. And just to make sure.

546
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.840
You had mentioned you're an author, is there any but

547
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:49.599
you're also going by first name only? Is there anything

548
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.519
that you want to make sure people are aware of

549
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.400
regarding your books or we'll just kind of cut that

550
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:57.480
out and leave.

551
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:57.639
It at that.

552
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.320
Well, now you can find me Caro stand Hope on

553
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.159
s T A N H O p E. I'm on

554
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:08.440
Facebook and I'm also on X and I do educate

555
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:13.480
the public on child trafficking because I escaped child trafficking

556
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.280
and then I became an active at about a little

557
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.480
over twenty years ago, I worked with a ladies group

558
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:24.119
called Persons Against Non State Torture, and so you know,

559
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:27.559
you can educate yourselves, you know about that. I'm very

560
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:33.199
passionate about it, And do support your local human trafficking shelter,

561
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:36.280
either with donations or your time, because it really means

562
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:40.599
a lot. There's a there's a big there's a big

563
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:44.400
shortage in that area. So do do do support that,

564
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.159
please one hundred percent.

565
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.920
It is a terrible thing that happens all over the

566
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.920
world and in our country, and definitely more people need

567
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:56.320
to know about it and they can. Thank you for

568
00:35:56.400 --> 00:36:00.639
sharing those specifically, people can check out and and get

569
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:03.039
more information about that. Thank you so much for coming

570
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:05.440
on the show, Carol. Has been a pleasure talking to

571
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:05.880
you today.

572
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:08.639
Yep, God speed brother, love you.

573
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:11.760
How am I feeling all right?

574
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:18.880
The steroids have me a little bit amped up, actually

575
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.719
a lot amped up, but it is what it is

576
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.159
it could be worse. I have a lot of nausea too,

577
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:29.400
So we're just gonna take some time this afternoon see

578
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:31.800
if we can chat for a bit. Just had a

579
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.280
really fun interview with an individual out from Columbia County, Oregon,

580
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.639
talking about a few things she experienced out in the

581
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:42.360
re near area about ten years ago. So that's going

582
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:48.960
to be a fun episode that comes out in mid August. Well,

583
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:53.559
let's see. The first thing it really goes back to.

584
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.400
I would say, here's actually a guy in the chat,

585
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.400
Tate who Tate Hornmus, who's a bigfoot researcher, and he

586
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.719
was like, hey, you should come out researching with me

587
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.320
one weekend to an area in Iowa, and we had

588
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:10.679
some stuff going on out there.

589
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:12.480
I mean wood Knox.

590
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.519
The first time you hear wood Knox And I recorded

591
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.480
a zipper noise of a tent on my audio and

592
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:24.679
I didn't open up my tent same area. Let's see,

593
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:29.480
I've had I've heard whoops, I've heard I had something

594
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.320
walking around my tent early in the morning on two legs.

595
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:35.039
When I went on to Oregon, that's when it got

596
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.119
really weird. We went out to the Lamb at National

597
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.440
Forest we were roared and screamed at by something out

598
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:45.239
in the woods about two years ago, really really weird.

599
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:45.559
Stuff out there.

600
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:48.880
Found fifteen sixteen inch tracks. When you find the tracks,

601
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:52.039
that really that really makes it real for you too,

602
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.760
because it's like we're like thirty forty miles out here.

603
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:56.719
There's not just.

604
00:37:56.599 --> 00:38:00.599
Someone out here making tracks out in the middle the woods.

605
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:02.360
It's a combination.

606
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.480
I've not had a visual sighting yet, but I've had

607
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:08.639
pretty much everything that you can have besides.

608
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:09.480
That, hither, how are you.

609
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:11.639
Hi?

610
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:13.639
Can you hear me? Yeah?

611
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:15.280
I just want to make sure you're coming up to

612
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.280
share a Bigfoot experience you've had today.

613
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:21.360
Oh definitely, I feel free to share what the experience was.

614
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:23.440
So I have this.

615
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:29.400
My belief with Bigfoot is that he is a third

616
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.519
dimension kind of guy, like he goes they didn't and

617
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:37.800
now like that's why we can't find him, and like

618
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.800
he's kind of like a spirit, like he comes and goes.

619
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:45.800
So that's my belief. And my mom shared a story.

620
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.519
And I live like kind of like in a family

621
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:52.880
compound like where my grandparents live here. I live here

622
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.679
and my parents live there, and we're all really close.

623
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:02.639
We're on a big land and we're near like forests whatever,

624
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:07.280
and my mom like dreamed the day. This was during

625
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.000
the day, like close to the evening, and she said

626
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:16.639
that she was home alone and we lived next to

627
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:20.679
a farm, so there's cows and there's a fence and everything,

628
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:27.360
and she said she heard the fence like moving, and

629
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:31.079
she was like, oh, that's weird. Like it's summer day

630
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:35.599
and her windows are open, and she heard a hoot,

631
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:40.000
like a loud hoot, like you know what bigfoot does,

632
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:45.719
like that big hoot, and she heard it and she

633
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.760
like instantly thought about Bigfoot. But she's like, oh, I'm

634
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:53.639
just gonna like not acknowledge that. I'm just gonna go

635
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:59.119
about my day. And what was weird was that same evening,

636
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:04.679
her bedroom is very high, like her bedroom window is

637
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:09.079
very high, and there was like rocks left on her

638
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:16.960
bedroom window. And she instantly like came and talked to

639
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.039
me because I'm all about Bigfoot. I love Bigfoot everything.

640
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:24.760
So she was just like, I seriously think I got

641
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:29.880
visited by Bigfoot. Like have you ever had anyone come

642
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:33.039
tell you stories of Bigfoot leaving gifts?

643
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:33.719
Oh?

644
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:38.480
My goodness, yeah, I mean all the time. I mean

645
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:43.639
I can I think it actually happened to myself, to

646
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:47.480
be honest, the one time in Iowa when I had

647
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:50.679
something to market around my tent. The next day I

648
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:54.400
get up and on the picnic table there's a plastic

649
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:57.320
fork with a squirrel tail put through the times of it.

650
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.960
That's hard to explain away, right, But.

651
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.920
No, all the time, all the time, you hear everything

652
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:09.880
from you know, sometimes crystals being left, sometimes deer legs.

653
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.639
I had an individual I talk to in Maine where

654
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:18.199
it was the head of a bear. Just really really

655
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:22.800
stuff that really doesn't make sense, right, And yeah, that

656
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.119
happens quite a bit, quite a bit. So can I

657
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.920
ask and maybe not to get super specific, but does

658
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.400
this happen in a certain region of the country or.

659
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:36.440
So.

660
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:42.039
I'm in Ontario, Canada, OK. Yeah, and I live on

661
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:44.880
an island, and the island.

662
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.000
Is huge, It's very huge.

663
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:47.719
It's big.

664
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:51.360
I have so many stories of hearing of people, like

665
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.960
you know, we live there. There's like a small community

666
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.880
or town and then like the in the outskirts or

667
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:02.960
like people have camps and there's so much stories that

668
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:03.599
come out of it.

669
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.800
That's Oh, that's wild.

670
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:11.119
Ontario is a wild place for bigfoot. Have you ever

671
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:13.760
heard anything around Snell Drove Lake. Do you know that area?

672
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:15.480
No, I don't.

673
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:23.119
Ontario is like I've I was born and raised in

674
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:27.159
Ontario and there's so much of Ontario I haven't even

675
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:29.440
known about or explored.

676
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.400
Absolutely well, well, man, I appreciate you coming up and

677
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.760
chatting and sharing what happened there, and you know, keep

678
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.679
us in the loop if anything else happens to you

679
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:42.519
or your relatives in the future.

680
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.840
Definitely, thank you.

681
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:46.000
Thank you.

682
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:53.480
All right, good stuff here, Let's see what we got.

683
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:55.880
Hey, how's it going?

684
00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:57.159
Not bad?

685
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:57.920
How about yourself?

686
00:42:58.760 --> 00:42:59.400
Hey? Good?

687
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.679
First of all, Swanda, thanks for sharing that story. I'm

688
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:06.800
in Ontario also, but I used to manage a fishing

689
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:11.519
lodge in northern Quebec and I haven't seen one. I'm

690
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:14.760
a big believer. But I had myself and my dog

691
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.920
and we went for a hike kind of across from

692
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.920
a lodge that I was managing in the winter. Now

693
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:24.119
keep in mind, I'm gonna say this with the skeptical

694
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.639
frame of mind. Winter time, when it's cold, trees do

695
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:28.480
make sounds.

696
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.440
Yeah, yeah, sorry, some weird must have happened there. So

697
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:36.239
you were saying something about maybe trees making weird sounds or.

698
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.880
Yeah, so when it's minus twenty and colder, the trees

699
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:44.480
do make popping sounds and things like that. However, what

700
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:46.920
I was hearing, and I had my dog with me,

701
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:50.880
one of the things that I've heard throughout a lot

702
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:54.440
of podcasts and big Foot encounters and even less Stroud

703
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.960
doing his current documentary is about the silence that happens

704
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:01.840
in the woods. And it's bizarre. When you're out in

705
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:05.280
the woods up in northern Quebec, northern Ontario, you still

706
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.400
hear the ravens, you still hear the crows for a

707
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:11.079
lot of the winter, or even blue jays. The woods

708
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:15.039
went dead silent, and I heard several distinct tree knocks.

709
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:18.679
They weren't far off, and this part of Quebec is

710
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:22.480
known for a lot of bigfoot activity. Where I live now,

711
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:25.400
I'm not far from the northern end of Algonquin and

712
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.920
there's been a lot of reports around here, so I'm

713
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.679
a firm believer. But hearing the tree knocks, that was

714
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:35.400
something that it sent chills down my spine. But it

715
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.599
was my closest encounter and haven't seen one, but it

716
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:45.760
was This wasn't the typical winter tree sounds that's wild.

717
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.360
And did you start to look around see if you

718
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:50.039
could find other reports in that area?

719
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:54.079
Then yes, there's several for that area. I've been researching

720
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:57.960
that area and my current area quite a lot. There's

721
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:04.239
been quite a few, even in my area now, recordings

722
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:09.280
of vocalizations and whether or not they're legit, I don't know,

723
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.639
but very interesting for sure.

724
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.480
So what is your Do you have a goal with

725
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:19.039
trying to look more into the subject.

726
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.559
Yeah, so I'm actually starting to do some of my

727
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.599
own research in my area because I'm surrounded by Crown

728
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:31.840
Land up here where it's basically unowned land, and one

729
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:35.679
of the latest vocalizations that I saw recording for was

730
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:39.760
twenty minutes away from my house. So I definitely want

731
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:41.480
to get out there and do some research. And I

732
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:44.559
do a lot of solo camping because Crownland camping is

733
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:48.239
completely free in Ontario, so I am doing some of

734
00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:49.000
that this summer.

735
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:57.719
That is awesome. I have gotten things from Algonquin Provincial

736
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:04.039
Park and I mean Sundra and in that area. That's

737
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.079
that's cool man. Yeah, if you ever have anything else happened,

738
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:08.760
you'll have to keep us up to date. But I

739
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:12.880
appreciate you you coming up and chatting about what you've

740
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:14.079
experienced so far.

741
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.599
Absolutely, and you mentioned Sundridge. I'm in South River, which

742
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:21.519
is ten kilometers from Sundridge, so I go the area

743
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:22.880
very good.

744
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:26.000
Well, thank you for hanging out. Man, yep, hey buns,

745
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:26.400
how are you?

746
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:27.920
I'm good?

747
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:29.280
Are you hey?

748
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.239
Doing great? Feel free to share what your experiences were.

749
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:39.320
Well, I see, I'm a Native American Shina Rappahole tribes

750
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:45.599
from Oklahoma, and our reservation is at Concho, Uh next

751
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:46.760
to Arena, Oklahoma.

752
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:51.960
And well, we have housing there and stuff.

753
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.199
So I grew up there when I was younger, and

754
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:58.000
they've always had stories.

755
00:46:58.440 --> 00:46:59.559
There's been stories of.

756
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:04.599
Them people my own tribal members, like feeding them, leaving

757
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:08.400
plates out for them and stuff like that. And they

758
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:11.199
don't think they're like harmful or anything like that. They

759
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:15.079
just leave them to them, but they see them a lot.

760
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:21.960
But my counter was, there's this old Indian school that

761
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.559
is back there that burnt down long time ago, and

762
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.719
you have to you have to walk away in the

763
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.719
woods to get back there to where the old cement

764
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:37.000
platform is at where the school was, and everybody goes

765
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.119
there if you're on a reservation. It's like a place

766
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.440
to go. So we went back there and there's a

767
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:47.760
springs there, it's called Cattle Springs, and.

768
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.280
There's a bridge over it that they built.

769
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:55.199
So we were walking over it, and there's like a

770
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:57.880
steep hill, and I've already been back there, you know,

771
00:47:57.960 --> 00:47:59.960
like hundreds of times, and I was taking some peace

772
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.880
people back there to check it out. And I was like, y'all,

773
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:04.920
go ahead, go ahead and go up front, and then

774
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:06.519
I'll just stay back here on the bridge and I'll

775
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.400
wait for you guys. So I was just standing there,

776
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:13.519
and I was smoking a cigarette because you know, they

777
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:17.159
teach us that whenever you feel something like as spirit

778
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:21.639
or something uneasy, that tobacco it kind of like blesses

779
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:26.480
you off in protection. So I had that cigarette with

780
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.159
me and I was standing on that bridge and.

781
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:32.519
These trees, Okay.

782
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:35.920
We have cotton woods here, and they're tall, they're super

783
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:41.199
you know, super tall. And I was just standing there

784
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:44.840
and it got really really quiet, like you couldn't even

785
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.599
hear bugs. The only thing you could hear was the water,

786
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:51.840
the spring water. Even the birds quit like and all

787
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:53.360
I could hear was just like the wind of the

788
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:56.239
rustling of the leaves, you know, and branches and stuff,

789
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:59.199
and then I just started getting I started getting hit

790
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:04.880
with bitty like rocks like pebbles, just like random. Like

791
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:08.440
I was like just looking. I was like, where where this,

792
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.559
Like how's the rock falling run? Because there's no place

793
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:14.159
like a mountain or nothing like that, you know, it's flat.

794
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:15.400
I was like, where's these?

795
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:18.000
And I looked up and I was looking up and

796
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:21.719
I was like trying to see where, like where this rock.

797
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:22.639
Was falling from.

798
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:26.719
And something was throwing it so far over the trees

799
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.599
and it was hidden me and it was like from

800
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:38.000
a couple of directions, not just one. And I got

801
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:40.760
scared and so I called my my friends and they

802
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:44.159
came back. But that that was the that's when I

803
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.000
but the first time. That was one instance and then

804
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:52.639
we left. But and then I seen him. We were

805
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:55.719
at a we we're having a pow wow and they

806
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.599
they say they come and listen to the music. Sure,

807
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:01.559
and we were were, uh, we were inside of a

808
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.119
building and you can't smoke in there, so you had

809
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:06.800
to go outside. So we're stepping outside and we're just

810
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:10.519
outside of the building and we're smoking and there's me

811
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:15.559
and three other people and three people are like standing together,

812
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:18.519
and I'm on the opposite of them, just by myself,

813
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:22.119
and then I have my back towards the like the

814
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:24.920
woods and stuff like the open area, and they're like

815
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:28.760
they just they just they were about to light this cigarette.

816
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:30.480
Then they I was looking at their face and they

817
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.639
just pulled. They just like, don't move, don't move too fast,

818
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.960
just turn around real slow and walk backwards towards us.

819
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:41.239
I was like, oh, I was just I was like,

820
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:42.639
you guys just made me really scary.

821
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:44.559
I was like, what's behind me? What's behind me? They

822
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.760
was like, just calm, dowt down, that's okay, just turn around.

823
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.920
So I turned around real slow, and there was a bigfoot.

824
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.719
He was sitting down next to a tree, like kind

825
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.480
of far from us where you can't really you couldn't

826
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:03.079
see his face because it was in dark time, but

827
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:05.840
you could see the silhouette of him eyes. We could

828
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:08.639
see him and his eyes he was looking right at us,

829
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:12.119
and we didn't even know if we walked a little

830
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:16.119
bit further, we would have walked upon him. Like you

831
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:18.440
didn't expect this to come out there. And we were

832
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:22.159
standing there and we just stood there for a second,

833
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.679
and because we were like stunned, and we just stood

834
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:27.280
there for like I think like five eight minutes, just

835
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:30.079
staring at it, and he was just staring at us,

836
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:33.400
and we just stood there for a minute, kind of

837
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.400
like we was in like a trance or kind of

838
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:38.840
like stunned for a second because he was like his

839
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:41.480
eyes were red. You could see his like beady eyes,

840
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:47.760
and it I me, me and my friends were like

841
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:51.400
swore up and down. It looked like he was wearing

842
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:55.679
some kind of like cloth or something like some kind

843
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:59.480
of like it looked like he was wearing clothes, but

844
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:01.679
they got too little for him, you know what I'm saying,

845
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:04.679
and like like you couldn't take him off or something.

846
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:09.000
It looked like super super small. I don't know what

847
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:11.440
it was, but it looked like he was wearing something.

848
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:15.880
It was wearing something. And then we just turned We

849
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:20.239
turned around and we went back into the to the dance.

850
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.079
Then we went and told my uncle because they've been

851
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:25.480
trying to like trying to get catch him or get

852
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:28.079
pictures or you know, trying to do anything to try

853
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:31.920
to get evidence of him. And my uncle came right

854
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:34.679
back out and went out there and tried to get him,

855
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:36.239
try to like look for him. He went out there,

856
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:38.159
tried to chase him, but he was gone. He was

857
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:44.000
already gone that fast.

858
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:49.559
Okay, I remember why I know this area.

859
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:56.960
Do you so, since you're from the area, And first off,

860
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.559
thank you for sharing your out from the powow. I mean,

861
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:07.320
it is fascinating how those dances seem to draw activity

862
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:12.480
like that, and I love hearing things like that. I've

863
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:16.880
also heard of there's a situation that happened. You're by

864
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:21.840
the Lucky Star casino, right, Yes, have you ever heard

865
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:27.000
about how there was supposedly a security camera video recording

866
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:29.159
of a bigfoot that was captured.

867
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:31.039
Do you know any information about that?

868
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:35.360
They have it at Lucky Star. My tribe they owned

869
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:38.639
the casino. Yeah, and they have that owner. I think,

870
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:41.079
if I'm not mistaken, they put it on one of

871
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:41.679
their on.

872
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:47.039
The Facebook facebook pages. Oh, I can.

873
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:49.360
Look it up and find it because I'm a member

874
00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:53.840
on there on the CNA Tribes Facebook page.

875
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.159
And yeah, that would be fantastic.

876
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.440
Yeah, I can. I can that to you.

877
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:02.639
Okay, Yeah, yeah, I just followed you.

878
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:04.760
If you could send me if you take a look

879
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.199
after this sometime later on and just send me a message,

880
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:10.159
that would be great, because.

881
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:12.480
I think it's a thing.

882
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:16.480
Where we, you know, not being in in that group,

883
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:19.000
we wouldn't have access to it. Probably so and a

884
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:21.559
lot of people have looked for that.

885
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:24.079
That would be interesting just to see if it's a

886
00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:24.840
real thing, you know.

887
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:27.159
So, yeah, I've seen it.

888
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:31.480
Oh you have you seen the video? Yeah? Oh wow?

889
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:34.079
How would you describe it?

890
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:38.440
It looked it looked like it I can say, honestly

891
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:43.239
say it looked like it looked it looked abnormal. If

892
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:46.960
I could say that, it looked like it wasn't a

893
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:50.800
person like a normal person, you know, it wasn't.

894
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:56.000
It looked it was real. It was real. It looked

895
00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:56.480
real to me.

896
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:03.039
In your area, would you say most of the sightings

897
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:06.519
happen around powows or are there other sightings that happen

898
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:07.719
outside of those.

899
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:15.159
Too? Honestly, I think it is the music, you know,

900
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:18.440
because it's not just pow wows, because we also have

901
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:25.119
Native American Church which is our sweat lodges, and we

902
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:29.239
sing in those two and we also and they come

903
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:32.480
around there too. When we have sweat lodgers, they come

904
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:36.559
out there and we have them on the reservation. We

905
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.119
have we have them still there like the sweat, lodgers

906
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:43.639
and stuff, and they'll come out there. Like I thought

907
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:46.079
my uncle was crazy at one point because they said

908
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:48.679
he was out there feeding him every day.

909
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:52.159
Like every day. There's a place out there on the Red.

910
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.039
Everybody knows that the play that you go out there

911
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:57.239
and they set food out for him and stuff for them.

912
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:03.719
Wow, what kind of things are they feeding them?

913
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:05.800
Like our traditional foods?

914
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:10.039
Like okay, we have you know, like meat, meat, bread,

915
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:14.239
meat bread, fruit, and like coffee.

916
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:16.960
And like a vegetable.

917
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:23.599
That's so cool. That's that's really cool. But Bonds, thank

918
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:26.599
you so much for coming up and sharing your experience

919
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:28.920
at the at the POW. I I greatly appreciate it.

920
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:32.119
Oh, no problem, I got I've got a couple of

921
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:34.559
more and I got other people too that like experience

922
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:36.800
Bigfoot as well.

923
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:39.280
All right, well, you know, make sure you're falling if

924
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.760
you ever want to share those other experiences or you know,

925
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:44.760
share this with your your friends there if they want

926
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:47.239
to share, hopefully we'll see them. Or they can send

927
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:49.159
me an email and you can send me email at

928
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:51.639
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and we can always

929
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:53.079
chat later that way too.

930
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:56.920
But oh yeah, yeah, I got another story too, but

931
00:56:56.960 --> 00:56:59.679
I can tell another time it made people scared not

932
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.960
to them out to my house in the backyard, because

933
00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:04.960
we've seen them out there too at my at my

934
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:09.440
house I currently live at that they we're having.

935
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:10.400
A share now.

936
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.760
I can yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, feel free to share

937
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:16.480
that and then, yeah, that would be awesome.

938
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:17.280
I appreciate it.

939
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:18.320
Okay.

940
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:23.159
My me and my brother moved in with me, so

941
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:26.280
we were, you know, he's anyway, we were having to

942
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:27.440
get together in the backyard.

943
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:28.320
So we're having a.

944
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:32.920
Bonfire, so, you know, so it's going down later on today,

945
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:34.920
later in the night time, so it was about to

946
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:35.719
shut it down, you know.

947
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:38.840
So we're about to you know, put the fire out.

948
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.159
So we're out there and we just come outside and

949
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.800
we're about to smoke a cigarette and my brother's like looking,

950
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:48.039
he said, he just said, do you do you see that?

951
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:49.599
I was that what.

952
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:53.280
And we're at my house in the back of my

953
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:55.920
house and the bonfires, you know, a few hundreds you know,

954
00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:59.159
in front of us, and he's like, do you see

955
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:02.559
that right there? I said, what is that? He said,

956
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:05.159
Look been down and we bent down. We crouched down

957
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.800
like kind of you know, crouched down and we were

958
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:13.400
looking looked towards the fire, and there was two two

959
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:16.920
figures crouched down like us, kneeled down by the fire,

960
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:21.639
and we just came from there, me and my brother.

961
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:25.079
We was looking. I was like, we just looked at

962
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:27.880
each other. We automatically know both in our heads that

963
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:33.239
you know, that was that's bigfoot. There's somebody, there's somebody

964
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:35.840
right there, and nobody was just there and then they're

965
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:40.599
right there and everybody knows, you know, the typical silhouette

966
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:42.760
and what a you know, what a bigfoot would look like,

967
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:44.559
and that's that's what it was.

968
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:46.199
And they were crouched down.

969
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:49.760
Like that, there was two of them. And then we

970
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:51.679
just got so scared because it just gave us a

971
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:56.079
like eerie, eerie, eerie feeling like we ain't supposed to

972
00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:56.519
be there.

973
00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:57.559
And we just.

974
00:58:57.480 --> 00:58:59.599
Turned it right back around and we just came in

975
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:02.119
the house and we just sat here for a minute

976
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:04.679
and didn't, you know, in case they try to come

977
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:06.440
up to the house or anything, because they weren't.

978
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:08.039
They weren't that far away from my house.

979
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:13.719
And that's yeah, it was. It was so crazy. We

980
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:15.960
didn't go back out there. We kept looking out and

981
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:18.519
kept looking out and they were still out there. They

982
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:23.079
were just around the fire, and we were just waiting

983
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:24.280
and way in Then I was like.

984
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:25.920
Man, we got to go out there. I don't know what,

985
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:28.400
but we got to do. We got to chase them

986
00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:30.639
all for something. And then by time we go.

987
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.519
Out there, I don't know if they hurt us or

988
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:35.880
anything like that, but they were already gone by time

989
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:36.599
we went out there.

990
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:39.920
How long do you think they were out there for?

991
00:59:40.519 --> 00:59:43.519
They were at least out there for like at least

992
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:44.679
maybe an hour.

993
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:49.199
Wow, well that's wild. I bet people were not going

994
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:50.519
to your place for a while.

995
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:53.039
Ye After that, oh yeah, they still won't come out here.

996
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:58.119
At nighttime in the back they my friends tried to

997
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:00.119
come over here, and they were like, hey, look I

998
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.239
don't believe you. I don't believe you. I said, okay,

999
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:04.719
go ahead and go back there. I have let them

1000
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:07.199
go spend the night back there. They didn't even last

1001
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:09.920
at night. They came back and they was like, I'm

1002
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:12.360
never coming over here again. I don't want to be

1003
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:15.320
out here. There's something in your yard. There's something in

1004
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:17.519
your backyard. There's something out there.

1005
01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:20.639
Did they share what happened to them to make them leave.

1006
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:23.880
They just said they were here and stuff like something

1007
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:27.280
was following them and it was They just said they

1008
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:29.199
just felt like something was watching them.

1009
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.719
Okay, Oh my goodness, that's some creepy stuff.

1010
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:33.280
Wow.

1011
01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:36.320
Oh yeah, Buns, we gotta we gotta get you up

1012
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:37.480
here again. Someday.

1013
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:41.639
You are into some wild stuff out there in Concho.

1014
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:43.719
Thank you so much for hanging out with us.

1015
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:45.400
All right, anytime, Yeah.

1016
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:50.840
You got it. Talk to you later. All right, Roy there,

1017
01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:51.320
how are you.

1018
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:52.360
I'm good.

1019
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:56.119
How are you doing well? Feel free to share your experience.

1020
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:01.199
Okay, So I have always been I'm thirty three now,

1021
01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:02.880
but since I was a kid, I've always been into

1022
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:05.960
like conspiracies and all types of stuff. So I've known

1023
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:11.760
about bigfoot sasquatch for years now, but it wasn't until

1024
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:15.519
I want to say, like two years ago that I

1025
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:20.280
started really, really really like diving into the topic a bigfoot, sasquatch,

1026
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:24.679
like the dog Man, all that type of stuff, and

1027
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:29.800
me personally, Okay, researching this, I came to the conclusion

1028
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:36.400
I am a Christian, and I tend to lean into

1029
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:40.840
like Bigfoot being a physical and like a spiritual being

1030
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:44.840
with like supernatural powers, if that makes sense. There's a

1031
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:48.679
there's a YouTuber I forgot. You probably know who it is.

1032
01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:54.239
I forgot his name. He died recently. He was a

1033
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:55.320
bigfoot researcher.

1034
01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:57.639
Oh Scott from Tennessee.

1035
01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:00.519
Yes, So I started watching this video. It was during

1036
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:02.159
this time that I'm researching all this, and I was

1037
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:06.440
just like mind blowing, Like I I realized that not

1038
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:06.800
only the.

1039
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:11.039
Sasquatch, but there's all types of creatures out there that

1040
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:17.400
like in the woods and stuff like that. So one

1041
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:20.960
time we for like the we stopped traveling.

1042
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:24.000
But for the past of three years, me and my

1043
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:27.400
husband and my four kids were like non stop traveling,

1044
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:31.920
mostly like the East Coast for my husband's work, going

1045
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:37.199
all over the place like rural area, city areas. And

1046
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:39.639
like I said, during this time, I had been really

1047
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:42.320
really invested in the whole bigfoot stuff, so I would

1048
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:44.679
always I would always have that in the back of

1049
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:47.039
my mind, like bigfood could be anywhere at any time.

1050
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:52.960
Right. Well, I started kind of like, it's so crazy.

1051
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:55.920
Look listen to this because Scott Carpenter also talks about

1052
01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:00.199
how they know like when you're talking about them, when

1053
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:05.119
you're thinking about them. Really weird stuff, right, Okay, So

1054
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:10.679
I started like kind of sharing, like my husband, my

1055
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:14.639
kids certain things about Bigfoot and this and that. Well,

1056
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:19.920
one time we ended up staying at a property at

1057
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:24.239
an Airbnb, a property in Virginia that was literally on

1058
01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:26.480
on the lake. So it was the house in the

1059
01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:29.480
backyard was a little bit of backyard and a big

1060
01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:33.000
lake that you could go kayaking and stuff, and it

1061
01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:41.199
was woods everywhere everywhere, very remote. Well, during this time,

1062
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.039
like my kids would go play outside a lot, and

1063
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:49.559
I would always hear like, uh, specifically my son always uh,

1064
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:51.880
like you know how kids are. He would always be

1065
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:55.079
talking about like the sasquatch out loud, super loud outside

1066
01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:56.800
pretending to play with the sasquatch games.

1067
01:03:56.840 --> 01:03:57.360
And I don't know what.

1068
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.400
And some for some reason, I told myself that I

1069
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:03.559
would hear him from the inside of the house, and

1070
01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:09.119
I told myself, like, I probably need to stop talking about.

1071
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:10.519
Bigfoot with the kids because.

1072
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:12.559
I don't know why I got that feeling like it's

1073
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:14.400
not a good idea for my son to be talking

1074
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:17.880
about sasquatch outside. I don't know why I got that feeling.

1075
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:21.199
It's like something told me that to stop. Well, during

1076
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:25.079
these days that we were staying at this house. I

1077
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.760
actually did end up telling my son, he is ten

1078
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:29.800
years old. I had told him. I was like, hey,

1079
01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:33.679
let's not let's stop talking about sasquatch out loud. I

1080
01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:35.760
don't know why, but that's it was just something that

1081
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:38.480
I felt like a weird feeling at that house. And

1082
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:42.000
then during the same time, during these days, my husband

1083
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:43.800
had shared with me that he and my husband is

1084
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:47.440
a big dreamer. He had and my husband does not

1085
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:50.639
care for anything. He thinks Bigfoot is demonic, he said,

1086
01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:53.360
if he doesn't want to know anything about them. And

1087
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:57.719
he had told me that he had a dream, that

1088
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:00.400
a very vivid dream, that there was a sasas squatch

1089
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:04.760
outside in the backyard of that house. Right, so I

1090
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:09.159
was really creeped out. But again nothing, nothing came out

1091
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:13.800
of it. One night, we had two things happen, well, yeah,

1092
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:15.599
two things happen at this house.

1093
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:16.679
Okay.

1094
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:25.639
One day we had spent the day outside with the kids.

1095
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:27.880
I think my husband had been off and we were

1096
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:30.760
cooking outside. They had like a little fire pit and

1097
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:33.719
we were making food until it got really really late.

1098
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:35.679
Mind you, this is like a really remote ara.

1099
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:39.440
There's no street lights, it's really dark outside and it's

1100
01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:43.199
covered by the like surrounded by woods in the lake.

1101
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:48.119
So we stay out all like until it gets really

1102
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:51.599
dark and before we go and we decide to have

1103
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:55.639
a prayer, all of us, my whole family outside. Mind you,

1104
01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:58.400
it's pitch black outside except for the light of the fire.

1105
01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:05.719
So we're and then everybody starts making their way inside.

1106
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:11.119
Me and my son stay outside, cleaning up, like, you know,

1107
01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:14.039
the plates and everything that we have left, and my

1108
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:18.920
son is just like they're still and just like still,

1109
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:22.719
and I could just tell like he was just all quiet,

1110
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:24.159
like he didn't want.

1111
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:24.679
To go inside.

1112
01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.000
It's like it's as if he was waiting for everybody

1113
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:29.760
to go inside so he could tell me something. Everybody

1114
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.679
goes makes their way inside, and my son like, as

1115
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:33.880
soon as everybody goes inside, and I stay outside with

1116
01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:37.960
my son cleaning up, my son is like, Mom, He's like,

1117
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:39.719
I don't know if you're.

1118
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:40.559
Gonna believe me or not.

1119
01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:43.400
But and I get I get so like, oh my gosh,

1120
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:45.480
I get chill thinking about it because I know he's

1121
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.519
not lying. He said, I don't know if you're gonna

1122
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:51.360
believe me or not. But when we were praying, Mom,

1123
01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:53.960
because I was praying I was the one praying out loud.

1124
01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:58.239
He said, when we were praying, I looked up and

1125
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:02.639
I saw a big foot on the tree staring at

1126
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:03.920
you while you were praying.

1127
01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:06.920
And he said that the thing, Yeah, he said that

1128
01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:09.320
the thing. He said that.

1129
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:12.079
When he when the bigfoot noticed that my son was

1130
01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:14.400
looking at him, he turned his head to look at

1131
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:16.599
my son, and it's like he just like jumped off

1132
01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:21.440
the tree and just like disappeared and into the woods.

1133
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:24.280
And I believe my son because my son is like

1134
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:27.840
they my kids don't there's no way he's gonna I

1135
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:29.599
know my kids, they don't make up stuff like that.

1136
01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:35.159
And he was really like shaken up. He was extremely

1137
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:38.199
shaken if. He was like shaking and just like he

1138
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:44.000
was scared out of his mind. And I I literally

1139
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:47.239
I told him. I was like, okay, well I believed

1140
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:50.360
him right, And you know you would think that I was.

1141
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:53.199
I would go inside scared, but because of Scott Carpenter's

1142
01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:54.880
videos and everything that I had seen it, because of

1143
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:59.480
my our beliefs, I told my son okay, and I

1144
01:07:59.480 --> 01:08:01.559
had to remember like my husband's dreams and everything.

1145
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:04.519
I ended up I.

1146
01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:06.159
Was like, okay, well we're going to go prayer, pray

1147
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:08.599
around the property so this thing doesn't come back, right

1148
01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:10.559
And my son was like, what do you mean. Like,

1149
01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:12.280
I'm like, no, we're going to do it, like we

1150
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:14.440
have to do it. So we just we just prayed

1151
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.199
around the whole property. I literally said out loud. I

1152
01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:19.039
was like, you're not welcome here. You cannot come over here.

1153
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:24.600
And after that, I literally I stopped like entertaining so

1154
01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:26.000
much the whole thing about.

1155
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:27.840
Sasquatch and Bigfoot because it's so weird.

1156
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.600
It was just too coincidential everything and that feeling that

1157
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:34.520
I got about, you know, my son and my kids

1158
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:37.279
playing Bigfoot outside, it was it was just crazy.

1159
01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:39.479
It's so wild.

1160
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:44.359
I think there is something to it that younger you know,

1161
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:50.239
younger children have access to see things that we might

1162
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:50.640
not be.

1163
01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:53.920
Readily noticing.

1164
01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:58.640
Right. Yeah, And just the way he described it, I

1165
01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:00.560
asked my son, I was like, what did it look like?

1166
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:02.640
And he said that it was just like the movies.

1167
01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:04.720
I mean he literally said it was there was the

1168
01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:09.640
moon behind and the sky, then the tree the sasquatch

1169
01:09:09.720 --> 01:09:11.520
in front of the moon. Like he said that he

1170
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:13.399
couldn't really make out his face, but he could see

1171
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:16.079
like his hair and the color. He said that his

1172
01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:20.520
hair was like orangey brown, like so weird, and it was

1173
01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:23.960
crazy that we didn't I didn't hear anything, but like

1174
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.960
I said, my son was super shaken up. Well, that

1175
01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:30.720
was the first thing that happened at that property. Another

1176
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:34.560
thing happened, Yeah, it was I don't know, there was something.

1177
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:37.119
I guess because it was such in a remote area.

1178
01:09:37.159 --> 01:09:39.159
And you know how they say about the sasquatch and

1179
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:41.399
like the bodies of water and stuff like that. Right,

1180
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:45.760
one of those days, we had gone kayaking, all of

1181
01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:50.720
us around that lake and we were kayaking, we were

1182
01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:54.720
singing worship songs, YadA YadA. Well, that night we come

1183
01:09:54.760 --> 01:10:00.079
back and that night, like we go to bed and everything, and.

1184
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:03.319
I just have like a really eerie feeling for some reason.

1185
01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:07.199
That night, and I just feel like there's something like

1186
01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:09.079
there's like a presence, like I can't explain it, just

1187
01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:11.760
like a really like I'm being watched. I'm trying to

1188
01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:13.840
go to everybody sleeping. I try to go to sleep,

1189
01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:16.319
and I as soon as I fall asleep, I have

1190
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:19.800
a very extremely extremely vivid I have a vision that

1191
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:27.079
I'm looking into like the dock of the property and

1192
01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:31.079
under the dock. There was a like a reptilian standing

1193
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:32.960
in the water with water up.

1194
01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:35.600
To his eyes, like just staring at the house. It

1195
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:36.439
was just so weird.

1196
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.239
There's some weird stuff going on that property. I don't

1197
01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:41.399
know if i'd go back again.

1198
01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:45.239
Yeah, no, we're not going back. But yeah, so those

1199
01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:46.840
are the things happen. Yeah.

1200
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Wow, Yeah, that's as far as my bigfoot encounters.

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Well, I appreciate you coming up.

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Hopefully you've got things under control now, but hopefully you

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also figure out what you're looking into as well.

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So thank you, thank you for coming up.

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Man, Yeah, thank you.

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All right, guys, Wow, what a great group of conversations

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today here. We've got a lot of people wanting to

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come up, but I need to go take a rest

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because I am fighting cancer, guys, and I'm getting tired.

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If it don't paste myself, it's not going to be good.

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So do me a favor. If you were waiting to

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come up and share your encounter, send me an email

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right away to big for Society at gmail dot com

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and we can talk about that that way. Or you

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can make sure you're following this account. Hit all notifications

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on you can listen to my podcast where I talk

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to people about their encounters by following Big for Society

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on YouTube and Apple podcasts and Spotify. So love you, guys,

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I'll see you next time. E good to see you.

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Stay safe out there and have a good one guy.

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Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

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directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

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in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1224
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seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

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a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

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to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

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something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

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the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

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01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:26.640
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

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if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

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who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

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If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil

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field or a trucker with government contracts and you've had

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something happen that you've never told a soul. And if

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you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher

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under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

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spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

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or if you work in the shadow CIA, NSA or

1240
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anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

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then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

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We've got the mic.

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See you in the woods.

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Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigot

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Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the

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world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that

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the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line.

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If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe

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to the channel on YouTube, hit the bell so you

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don't miss the next episode, and share this with a

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friend who's into mysteries, monsters, or the unexplained. And if

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you're listening to us on Spotify or Apple podcast, please

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follow the show there and leave us a five star

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positive review, because all that helps more people discover the show.

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And remember if.

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You or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting,

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please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

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01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:10.399
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

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the conversation. If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check

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out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society

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podcast dot com and that's where you can hear tomorrow's

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episode today early in ad free and members only episodes

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every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other

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people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

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you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

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01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:36.600
Society until next time. Keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

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and never stop asking what else might be out there?

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And see you in the woods.