March 15, 2026

Strange Experiences Near Jiminy Peak In The Massachusetts Berkshires

Strange Experiences Near Jiminy Peak In The Massachusetts Berkshires
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Season 1

In this episode, we delve into the unusual experiences of Jennifer, who has spent decades visiting the mountainous Berkshires of western Massachusetts near Jiminy Peak. Surrounded by dense forests, winding mountain roads, and the wild terrain near Mount Greylock, Jennifer describes a series of moments that left her questioning what might be moving through those woods after dark.


What began as a quiet night at her townhouse during the off-season suddenly turned tense when a deep, guttural growl came from the trees just beyond the property. Not long after, something struck the building with enough force to shake the entire structure. The area was silent, the neighboring units were empty, and the source of the impact remained a mystery.


Jennifer also recounts an unsettling moment along a forested stretch of road near Blandford State Forest, where the natural sounds of the landscape suddenly vanished and an overwhelming feeling of unease took hold. As she reflects on these experiences, Jennifer explores how these strange events fit into the growing number of reports coming from the Berkshires and surrounding wilderness.


Her story offers a fascinating glimpse into the quieter encounters people experience in places where mountains, forests, and long stretches of isolation create the perfect environment for the unexplained. Join us as we explore Jennifer’s intriguing experiences and the lingering question of what might be watching from the woods of western Massachusetts.


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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society, Welcome

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back to another show. We've got the privilege of talking

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to Jennifer today. Jennifer's listener of the show, also supporter

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of the show, and we got connected because Jennifer has

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a few interesting experiences to share, primarily from the state

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of Massachusetts, which listeners of the show will know. I'm

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from originally from the Western side. So welcome to the show, Jennifer.

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How are you doing today?

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I'm joined?

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Well, thank you, Jeremiah, absolutely you know. Well, first off,

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is there anything else that listeners would need to know

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about you? For contacts before we start chatting about what

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you've experienced.

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Just that. When I was probably about eleven or twelve,

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I grew up in northwest New Jersey, which a lot

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of people don't realize. It's super Whirl and we have

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big forest, and I grew up near a pipeline and

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I got interested in bigfoot because after a snowstorm, my

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friends and I were up on the pipeline because we

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didn't have school that day, and we saw some footprints

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and then you know, then I guess I'm of the

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age where it was who was the guy from star

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Trek who did in search of Probably yeah, and they

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would have Bigfoot on there, and it just always pequed

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my interest.

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But then fast forward to Massachusetts.

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I'm married and we have a place up at a resort,

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a townhouse called Jimmy Peak, and I kind of got

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into listening to your podcasts and a few others probably

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last year, and I didn't realize more of the things

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that people report about Bigfoot. And that's why when I

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recount what happened at our townhouse, I mean, I've never

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seen a big Bigfoot, but I think what happened, and

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I'm not saying it's definitively really was a bigfoot thing,

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but it was always odd to me. And then when

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I listened to certain podcasts, I didn't realize bigfoot would

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actually come up to houses and slap them and hit them.

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And then I was like.

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Oh, maybe that's what happened at Jimmy Peaks. So I

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don't know if you want me to start the story.

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I think I want to do a little bit of

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context for listeners. I feel like I always have to

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do this for Massachusetts because so many people, I think

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are thinking of Boston and like, there's no yeah, there's

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no bigfoot stuff in Boston. Well, so jim Andy Peak area,

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that's that's more the northwest corner of Massachusetts. Correct.

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Yeah, yeah, we're.

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About a mile from the New York border of Stephntown,

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so you're about as west as you can get in Massachue.

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Absolutely, so you are up there kind of where it

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gets extremely wild. You know, you're You've got the Berkshire's

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out there, You've got North Adams and it's just it

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is a whole different ballgame when you're trying to drive

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that area from New York and then across over to

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to route too. So if you've got the idea of

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Boston and the Cape. You want to get that idea

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out of your head. This is this is definitely a

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more rough and remote area, wooded area of New England.

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So just wanted to throw that out there. But yeah,

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feel free to uh to take us back to you know,

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when you started to realize there might be something going

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on with your property out there in Western Mass.

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Okay, Well we're in Jimminy Peaks and Handcoff Mass. It's

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actually not far from Pittsfield, but it's it's still rural.

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I mean, you have the ski area there.

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I believe the.

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Appalachian Trail isn't that far from there, and then you

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have Mount Greylock, which isn't far from my townhouse at all,

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where I think there's been quite a few sightings as well.

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I think one in Williamstown also not long ago. But anyway,

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it was what we call shoulder season. It was probably

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early spring, so it's when ski season is over, or

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they call it mud season. And my daughter had just

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gone away to college that following the fall. So I

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think that I set you the wrong data. I think

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it was twenty twenty four, not twenty twenty three, so

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two years ago or twenty twenty three. I don't know

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if she as a junior now. I can't do the math,

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but anyway, it was shoulder season, so we have we're

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at the end of the country in and we're at

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the base of the mountain. So above us is a

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ski area.

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It's it's a.

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Run of one of the runs, so it's up a couple.

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Hundred feet and then it drops off.

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In back of our townhouse to a switchback road that also,

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in thinking about it, our shed is there where we

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put the garbage, so maybe that's a factor as well.

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But so and through the years, we've been going up

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there thirty years, and so I always take the dogs

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out a couple times.

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And we just had the.

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Corgi was about a year old, and so I always

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take them out when right before we go to bed, and.

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It was about eleven o'clock.

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And in the past when I've taken the dogs out

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at night, do you ever have that feeling of being watched?

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You know, especially it's almost like you could feel it

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seering into your back. And I would always feel like

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it was at that skier like way above me, something

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peering down.

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But I digress. On that. So I took the dogs.

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There's like a little patch of woods that I would

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always bring them to to do their business. And so

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we went down and as the dogs were entering, we

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heard a really low guttural growl and like all three

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of us just took off. The dogs were like, yeah,

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we're done, and we ran into the condo and.

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I was like, you know, growing up in we're old

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New Jersey.

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You know, we have black bears. We didn't have as

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many when I was a kid, but you know, and

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we have bobcats and what we do have mountain lions,

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even though they say we don't. But so I figured, oh,

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maybe it was just that, you know, I mean, you

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try in your mind. But it scared the heck out

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of all three of us. Even the dogs were like, yeah,

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we're good. You know.

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We went back to the.

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So it was about a half hour later and we

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went up the second floor and the master and.

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I let the dogs sleep with me.

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My husband wasn't around, he doesn't like the doss. And

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all of a sudden, from the back of the condo,

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something hit the condo and it shook like really hard,

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and we do we're attached, and we do have neighbors

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that have teenage boys. So I thought, oh, that was

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weird because I felt it from the back. But I thought, oh,

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maybe they just got here late and the boys are

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all clomping up the stairs because it's to the right

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of my bedroom. You know, we're attached. But it was

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weird because I felt it from the back because it

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didn't feel like the stairs. But you know, you're tired,

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you just like whatever. So when I got out the

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next morning, nobody was there. I was the only one

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that stayed the night in our five condos. And you know,

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when you file something away in your head and you're like, oh,

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that's weird. And then when I started talking or listening

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to the podcast, I was like, hmm, you know, maybe

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that's an explanation, but I don't know.

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Would they do they.

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Come that close to the houses. I mean, it was

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pretty desolate, but it was just strange.

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That's all.

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Yeah.

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I mean, the people that I've talked to over the years,

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this is a pretty you know, if they're going to

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be on the property, usually what will happen if they

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start to get really comfortable and they want to mess around,

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is they will and it usually ends up being the

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room where the person is sleeping, and it's like next

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to their head for some reason. And that that's a

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whole different question. It's like can they somehow see through

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walls or like heat signatures or know where you are?

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But the interesting thing that always brings up, and I

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guess I'll ask it to you in a question, is

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did you get a sense of how high up on

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the wall they were hitting when they hit the side?

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Well, they had to have hit, see, I was on

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second floor. I think they hit like we have little

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in the back, So my master is in the front

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of the condo, and then behind me is another small bedroom,

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then the downstairs underneath that is you know, the staircase

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in the kitchen, and we have all have little decks

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in the back. And I got the feeling they hit

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between our two decks, of my neighbors and myself. But

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I mean, these things were built in the eighties.

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I don't know how well they were built. But it shook.

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I've never felt the you know, and I'm not embellishing it.

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I remember thinking it's odd because I felt it from

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the back.

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You know, how you get a sense where and how

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it shook.

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It shook forward, but you know, I just wanted to

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rationalize it in my mind that it was going up

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the staircase. But really, in thinking about it, it's never

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the kids clumping on the stairplan case has never.

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Felt yeah, yeah, you know that's going to be different.

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It was just strange.

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And then since you know the property pretty well, you'd

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have to think about Okay, so if something was standing

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back there and hitting the side of the house in

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the area where it hit, you know, how how high

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up would it have to be reaching from where it

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would be standing.

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I mean, to hit it like that, I would say

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at least seven.

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Or eight feet Okay, gotcha. Yeah, so that's that's something

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pretty tall or able to reach up pretty high.

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I mean, I wish I walked back there, and I

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didn't because I had already set out, you know, and

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then you know, I was busy. I can't remember what

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I was doing then, but I wish I had walked

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back there because it was muddy.

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I bet there would have been principle.

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Oh, I'm sure there probably would have been something. I

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was just gonna just going to ask you that. So

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it is a residence that split you have the other

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individuals that are you said it's a kind of a

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split residence. There are there other neighbors that are close

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by as well.

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Yeah, it's five units, so townhouses are connected, so it's

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five units. We're the fourth one down, so it's kind.

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Of on an incline.

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And then the ski area is a few hundred feet up,

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you know, so there's all birch trees obviously because we're

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in the persures and pines and what have you. And

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then there's a switchback road behind us that is about

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a couple maybe I don't know, eighty feet or sixty feet.

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I'm not great with measurements below off our deck, you know,

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we have a little bit. I'm sorry, I'm not great

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at explaining things. But it was just odd. It was

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something that I always thought was odd. But then when

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I started listening to the podcasts, I'm like, huh, maybe

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maybe that Because I know I'm not far from Lenox,

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maybe forty minutes and October State Forest is that has

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had a lot of I mean, there's a lot going

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on around Jimminy Peak. I just didn't know if they

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would come so close, you know, to houses like that,

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but I guess.

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They do absolutely. I mean I've talked to a few

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people in the area. So like October Mountain, Yeah, that's

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really active. You've got I want to see. It's Bear

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Town or Bear Mountain, Great Barrington area. I spent a

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lot of time out there because my grandparents were in

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that area. So like around Monument Mountain, just just a

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very I mean the houses are literally up to the

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sides of the mountains in some places. And I mean

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I remember staying at my grandmothers when I was a

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little kid, and we would look outside and there'd be

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thirty turkeys in the front yard and deer, and I

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mean the wildlife is just there's not much separating you

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from what's out in the woods, which is incredible. So

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was that the weirdest thing that you've experienced or have you?

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Have you seen other things or weird things happen around

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the same property.

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Not really, because it's not our primary and we generally

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just use it in the winter, but I do. My

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daughter had I don't know if you know where Suffield,

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Connecticut is, it's right by Alkalam. My daughter went to

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high school there at the boarding school. And I hate

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ninety so I would take twenty. You know that goes

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along the river. You go through Beckett, go past Jacob's

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Pillow and all that, and it.

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Was just my kind of zen.

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And then I would scirrel all the back roads through

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Westfield and drop down to Suffield. It probably took me

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about twenty minutes longer, but it was just I don't

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like that.

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You know how ninety is, And there's that one.

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Stretch when you I think, if you got stuck, you're

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just done, because there's between Jim Andy, you take the

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Berkshire Extension, you grab it.

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Yeah, you're talking about stretch if yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, it's ninety.

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I think. I don't know, but I used to take

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I think I believe twenty. And I would go in

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because I'd love to go to my daughter's uh softball

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and uh this was in the fall though, and so

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I and it was, you know, a warm fall day,

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and I was driving and I was like a little

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ahead of schedule. So I figured I'd get out stretch

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my legs because my knees were I just got them replaced,

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but they would get stiff then because they were hurting me.

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I had my daughter in my forty, so I'm an

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older mom.

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So I stopped at this like rest stop.

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It overlooks it. I think it's right before Russell.

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It's I think it's.

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The Blamford is it Blamford State Forest.

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It's there's that section you go through on T I

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think that's the name. Don't quote me. And again I

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didn't know about all this stuff. But I stopped at

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the rest off and I was just sitting there kind

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of enjoying myself. And then all of a sudden, I

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got a really weird feeling of just dread and like, oh,

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I need to get out of here.

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And then it was weird because.

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For about four or five seconds, I couldn't hear anything,

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and I almost felt like it was just weird. And

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all of a sudden, I couldn't hear anything, and I'm

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thinking of my you know, having a stroke, or is

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my hear Like is there something wrong with me? I

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tend to have low blood pressure, not high blood pressure,

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but I you know, and I just did. It lasted,

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like I said, maybe four seconds, but it scared me

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because it's just and then because I could hear the

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rustling of the leaves, I could hear it had rained

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the night before, so the you know the river, you

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know how the river sometimes can be deeper and sometimes

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more shallow, and I could. I thought I could hear

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it when I sat down, and then all of a

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sudden I could, And then it was almost like I

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didn't hear it. But do you ever get like a

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high pitched in your ear and it lasts for a

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few seconds. It was almost like that, but just imagine

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not being able to hear and it kind of came

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and went. But it was just strange, and I felt

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funny and thought, well, am I dehydrated? So I just

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went back to the bar and drank some water and

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went on my way. But it was the weirdest thing.

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I actually went to the audiologist two weeks later and

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explained the whole thing, and he's like, well, you're fine,

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you know, I said, you don't think I was having

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a stroke or anything. He goes, no, if you're having

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a stroke, you probably wouldn't be talking.

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To me, right, Yeah, exactly so.

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But it was strange and I and again, never knew

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about this stuff till I started listening, you know, to

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your podcasts.

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And Westes, and you know, the ear thing is such

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such a weird thing. Was there anything with like could

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you feel like pressure changes during the same like your

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ear drum pressure changing at all, or it was just

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like Boem.

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Signed, well, that's yeah, because you know when you get

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that ringing in your ear, you get that pressure. It

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was the same thing, but not being able to hear.

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Yeah, no, exactly because the one time I've experienced that

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was in just outside of Oakridge. One of the times

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I was up there and got super quiet and then

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couldn't hear anything. Oh man, it was weird. It was

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so weird. Pressure started changing. It felt like you were

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in an ear bubble or or underwater. Is very strange stuff.

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So and I've heard other witnesses say that too. The

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other really interesting thing about the Blandford and I believe

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I'm looking at yeah, Blamford by Russell, I'm looking at

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the right area. It's just north of Cobble Mountain Reservoir,

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which has come up on the show before, and that

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is a super super active area. It's actually come up

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two times. There's Ernie Devereux's encounter when he's hunting, and

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then the Volgel Brothers have a lot of encounters. And

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I mean it's not that far north of where twenty

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three is on Blamford. So I say all that to

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say it's not the question that you were pulled over.

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You may have experienced something weird and something Bigfoot related

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in that area for sure.

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I mean it's just strange. I mean I always grapple

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with I would love we go up the Taconic Parkway

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all the time, and I know I think I heard

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a show of yours that someone saw one. I know

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the exact spot. Actually, I just.

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Was looking, you know. Now I'm looking all the.

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Time because I know they're in that area too. I

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would love to see one, I think, But then sometimes

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I'm not so sure.

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So because I do believe.

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They exist, there's no doubt in my line. So but

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I have a question for you. That weird thing that

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happened by the river. I mean, do people have any

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explanations for it? I mean, is it now that I'm

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listening to everything, I mean, do we think it's like,

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why would that happen?

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Is it?

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Not to get too weird? But is it a dimensional thing?

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When when I was in my twenties, I read this book.

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It kind of dumped down quantum physics.

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It's called Dance of the Wooly Masters. It's a phenomenal book.

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And it kind of explains basic physics and quantum physics.

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And I mean it's just weird.

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I mean, I know there's some wu side of Bigfoot,

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but like, can they change the atmosphere like that? Can they?

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Are they changing your dimension? What's going on? I mean,

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nobody knows the but it's just interesting, right right.

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It is a thing where at this point, since you

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know the point from what we know, there hasn't been

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one studied, and so you don't know what it can

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do right now. I know what I've been told from

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reports and what I've experienced, and it does seem that

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in these areas where there is said to be activity

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and they're charged up, people are experiencing things like the

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pressure changing suddenly in their ears and not being able

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to hear anything, or it goes very quiet, or they

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hear something that sounds like a metal door opening. Some

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people think that might be related to portal activity. Perhaps

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there's also another really weird thing I experienced in the

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same area is so me and a gentleman we were

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hearing howell screams from in the woods, and another person

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that was right next to us, I was like, I

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can't hear any of that. I didn't hear any of that,

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And then later on it would be reversed where this

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individual would hear something coming from the woods and we

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didn't hear any of it either. So really, I think

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another question to ask is, you know, is there a

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way that these you know, whatever they are, can affect

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the senses of humans where they can affect what we

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are seeing, what we are hearing, maybe even smelling. Who knows,

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And I don't know if that is something where it's

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related to infrasound. You know, for every question you ask,

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it feels like there's ten more questions that come up,

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and everyone has a different way of looking at it,

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which is why one of the reasons I love this

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topic because you can get really really deep into it.

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But yeah, I mean I hope that in our life

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sometime we start to get these answers, but I'm not

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really sure if we ever will, to be honest.

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Yeah, no, it is kind of crazy because I kind

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of got into the I don't know if you want

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to me talk about other paranormal things. But I lived

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in a house for thirty years that was haunted in Canada,

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and that's how I started really looking into But I

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always had things since I was a little kid, and

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my Grandma passed away. She was in her eighties, and

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I think she might have had some kind.

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Of paranormal things.

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So she had all these books hidden away, you know,

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edgar case and metaphysical things, and I think that you know,

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she graduated from Barnard College.

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In nineteen seventeen.

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She was very learned, but I think she might have

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hid this part of herself, you know, and my daughter

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has it. I have it.

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I have a nephew that is a sensitive as well.

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And you know, that's where I think the dimensions come in.

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I mean the physics. You know, they vibrated a different

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than us, but sometimes, like I guess, the vibrations match up,

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or you can. I can feel. I have seen a

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lot of spirit, but I since them. We just moved

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to a new house down in New Jersey and I

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did see a Revolutionary War spirit, which was kind of wild.

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And I know people are probably going to think I'm crazy,

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but it really happened. I'm married to a chemist, and

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he never believed this stuff till now, after thirty years

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in our Connecticut house, he believes.

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Oh so even he has experienced weird things in this

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Connectic house.

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Now.

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It's very interesting because you know that's another pattern. You know,

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individuals that have these experiences with you know, what we

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think is bigfoot hugely it's a thing. I mean you

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can ask every time where has other stuff happened? Have

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you experienced anything else? Have you had a UFO experience,

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et cetera. It's like every time it's just either they're

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open to it or they are as you said, they're

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more sensitive to it. I mean, I don't I can't

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think of a time really where it hasn't happened where

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an individual hasn't had multiple type encounters. And I don't

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know really what the explanation is, especially when it when

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they have the bigfoot encounter and then the stuff starts

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kicking in. It's like, well, did you get open up

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to everything and now these things kind of get you know,

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magnetized and connected to you. I don't really know, but

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did you so you started experiencing that stuff before your

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your bigfoot experience though?

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I mean yeah, I mean I was. I was in Connecticut,

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but in the little nubs, so we're a little too

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close to New York City. I mean, I don't know,

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in Fairfield County, but I was close to the New

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York border. Also, there, but I don't know if I mean,

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we had a beautiful home in the woods, but but

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we generally had more of the paranormal with the you know,

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the ghost the spirits, and they were pretty I actually

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eventually had a couple of ghost tempting groups come in

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and they would call me every once in a while

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and say, hey, I got new equipment. Can I come

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to your house? Because I know it all. You know,

466
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:34.079
it was very active. In fact, when I sold it,

467
00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:36.519
we had I told them this, you know, we've had

468
00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:40.200
issues and but nothing you know, demonic or I don't

469
00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:42.640
know all those shows, but I guess it happens.

470
00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:49.000
But it was very how would you say, I'm not

471
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:54.519
really versed in that side. They're just kind of hanging out.

472
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:58.440
They're not causing any harm.

473
00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:03.279
No, there was through Well, can I tell you a

474
00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:06.680
quick story. It's kind of an interesting one. We did

475
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:10.559
have a little boy, and I didn't find out his

476
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:13.799
name till I have ten years between my children.

477
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:14.960
Not great planning.

478
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.279
But and when my son was about three, I thought

479
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.079
I saw him. He was blonde and sitting on you know,

480
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:24.480
we had your basic center hall colonial so I was

481
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.920
walking into the foyer, I thought I saw him at

482
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:29.359
the corner of my eyes, sitting on the stairs, and

483
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:31.640
I thought he was in the family room by the kitchen,

484
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:35.720
and I turned to say, Gordon, what are you doing here?

485
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.119
And he wasn't there, And then I walked and he's

486
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.200
in the family room. And Gordon every once in a

487
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:46.680
while would say he saw, you know, somebody walked by

488
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:49.039
or but nothing as definite as my daughter.

489
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:50.039
So fast forward.

490
00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:53.759
My daughter's about three and she starts telling me that

491
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.920
a boy named Arnold keeps coming to her room at night.

492
00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.880
And I said, okay, what is our look like? Now,

493
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:02.880
you've got to stay with me on this one. She said,

494
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:05.799
his arms and legs are the wall, but his face isn't.

495
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:09.000
And what I figured out is she didn't know the

496
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:13.799
word transparent, so he must have been solid in his head,

497
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.359
but she could see the wall through his arms and

498
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:17.920
legs because he was transparent.

499
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:19.160
My goodness.

500
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:20.640
And that was kind of wild.

501
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:21.880
That's weird.

502
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.319
I mean, that's something you're not expecting to run into

503
00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:31.599
for sure. Were you seeing any any like spheres or

504
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:32.960
orbs or anything at time?

505
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:39.799
I did well. When we did have the investigators come in,

506
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:42.079
and they got a lot of pictures of orbs. They

507
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.200
even got a shadow figure because we also had a

508
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.200
I'd later found out her name is Grace through EVPs,

509
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.319
and Grace was lovely. I actually miss Grace. I was

510
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:54.880
hoping maybe she was attacked to one of my antiques

511
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.359
and would follow me here to New Jersey. But she

512
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:01.160
would hum and she would leave like a floor and

513
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:03.759
they actually got a shadow figure of her, and you

514
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.240
can kind of see the bustle of her Victorian She

515
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.960
was from the Victorian era. My house was built in

516
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:14.599
the sixties for like IBM executives, but the land was

517
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:18.599
well I had been Indian land that then they gave

518
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.799
over to the Dutch, and then it had been an estate,

519
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.880
part of an estate for Nora Mellen who.

520
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.960
Had married Andrew Carnegie.

521
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:31.400
Mellon, and they did have twin boys, but I couldn't

522
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.559
I've tried to research and see what they're twin boys,

523
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:36.480
but that was the turn of the century. But I

524
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:40.000
learned that from all the ghost hunter groups that came in,

525
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:43.799
but they took pictures. But I really liked Grace. I

526
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:47.079
know it sounds weird because my parents were both sick

527
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:49.119
and dying at the same time, and I was very

528
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:51.440
upset and I was in the kitchen cooking by the

529
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:53.880
counter and I felt a hand on my back and

530
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:55.680
it was come burning. I know it would freak a

531
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.119
lot of people out, but I really felt that it

532
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:04.000
was weird. Maybe people think I'm too codependent, but you know,

533
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:06.359
because I hate these shows. It's always a demon and

534
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:10.240
this and that. I mean, I don't know, I felt

535
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:13.839
comfort from her, you know, I really don't so weird.

536
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:20.319
The weird thing is the crossover in the way that

537
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:25.359
you just describe some things and how you you hear

538
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:29.920
those come up in other witness accounts too, And I'm

539
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:35.119
thinking specifically like the floral scent, like you you can

540
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:38.279
hear that come up in certain Bigfoot witness accounts too,

541
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:40.920
where they're like, all of a sudden, they smelled some

542
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:45.880
kind of flower, you know, and then around their Bigfoot experience,

543
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:49.640
which I don't know if you've ever read Dark Matter

544
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:53.480
Monsters by doctor Simmon him, but it is a fantastic read.

545
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:54.960
Now it is.

546
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:58.920
It's about like quantum. It's got a quantum physics and

547
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:01.440
stuff in there. But what he does is he kind

548
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:06.039
of tries to make sense of everything and how the

549
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:09.359
paranormal stuff in the Bigfoot stuff could all be related

550
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:16.880
into the same deal, and what the what the reasons

551
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:19.799
behind it could be and is if you're into that

552
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.720
kind of stuff, I would recommend it. It's a fun

553
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.079
one to check out. You have to read it if

554
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.759
I had to read a few times, but it is,

555
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:29.039
it's a fun one.

556
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.000
I think I probably would too well.

557
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:34.119
I definitely will take that recommendation. It's just.

558
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:36.319
I don't know.

559
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:43.160
It's having had all these experiences and then finding out

560
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:45.640
again in the last year or so that there is

561
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.519
a I guess people called the WU side of Bigfoot.

562
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.240
I have to tell you, when I first heard it,

563
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:54.839
I wanted to reject it, reject it wholeheartedly. I just

564
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:57.400
wanted it to be an eighth that were a missing link.

565
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:00.759
I didn't want it to have a paranormal component, which

566
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.559
is stupid considering I lived in a house that was

567
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.160
haunted for thirty years and I'm sitting there, Why am

568
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:09.440
I wanting to reject this? And you know, the more

569
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:12.279
I listen, because I don't think these people are lying,

570
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:15.160
I just don't, and so I don't. I'm still having

571
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.640
trouble reconciling it. And I think the Bigfoot community from

572
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:20.079
what I'm hearing as a.

573
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:23.119
Whole is Yeah, the way I look at it is

574
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:28.119
so more like the paranormal side. I think it is.

575
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:36.279
It's what we haven't reconciled in our minds yet. It's

576
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:41.599
what we don't understand scientifically. So you know, a lot

577
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.680
of the community will say on we side as in

578
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.759
seeing those people are crazy, which I reject with the

579
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.799
most of my being. One that's being a terrible person.

580
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:58.599
It's not treating people in a great way. You're just

581
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:02.920
calling them crazy too. If we're going to figure this out,

582
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.200
we got to have our minds open to what these people,

583
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.240
these witnesses, are saying. And the thing about it is

584
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:15.000
all these witnesses are not just all getting together at

585
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:18.079
some retreat and saying, Okay, if we talk to the podcasters,

586
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:19.799
make sure you say this, this, and this. These are

587
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.519
people that don't know each other from different time periods,

588
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:28.400
some from yesterday, some from fifty years ago. And I mean,

589
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:33.200
here's an example. I just talked to an individual who

590
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:39.000
had a mind speaker or telepathy incident with what she

591
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:43.119
thinks is a bigfoot back in nineteen seventy in Southeast Oklahoma,

592
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.799
which I mean, I don't know if I've heard any

593
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:52.839
other accounts of that far back for telepathy encounters. So yeah,

594
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.880
it's kind of a hot button topic with me because

595
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:03.000
I just want people to be heard and to to

596
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.839
not be made fun of. I mean, they didn't, they didn't.

597
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.880
They didn't choose to be freaked out. They didn't choose

598
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:13.720
to have something mess with their house or or leave

599
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.759
you know, let's say, dead animals all over their lawn

600
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:22.200
or or you know. There's one individual I talked to

601
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.400
where they're in a cabin in northern Ontario and all

602
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:28.799
of a sudden, a sasquatch appears next to their bed

603
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.000
and then they blip out they disappeared. It's like, how

604
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:35.160
do you explain that? You just can't. It's wild stuff.

605
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:39.400
Well that's the heck of a way.

606
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.519
It really is. Yeah, I couldn't imagine. I don't know

607
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:44.599
if i'd get out of bed, i'd be put me

608
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.799
under the covers. But pretty wild stuff.

609
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.480
Oh boy, But yeah, it really is.

610
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:51.559
It really is.

611
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:57.559
So yeah, I think there's a lot to the subject,

612
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:02.240
and I hope, you know, some part of me hopes

613
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:04.079
that we do get the.

614
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.359
Proof we need, and part of me, I don't.

615
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:09.119
Know if it would be a good thing for a

616
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:12.639
sasquatch to be captured or I don't know. And can

617
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.280
they be captured, I don't know. Or are there subs

618
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.639
I kind of think maybe there because some people report

619
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:22.000
round your heads, some more conical. Are there two different

620
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.280
species where one has the paranormal.

621
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:25.360
And one doesn't?

622
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:26.000
I don't know.

623
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:27.239
I mean, I'm just surmizing.

624
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:29.239
No one really knows.

625
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:32.000
These are the things I think about the exactly.

626
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.440
It's a really good point because there are people that

627
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:40.480
bring up, you know that there could be two different types.

628
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.239
There could be a much older I think some people

629
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.719
call them like ancient ones, and they may have more

630
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.079
of a rounder head, and then you've got ones that

631
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:53.559
have like that, that more sagur little crest to the

632
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:56.400
top of their heads, which you know, kind of has

633
00:34:56.519 --> 00:35:00.719
like you look at a gorilla, et cetera. Things like that.

634
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:03.519
It's just one of those things, you know, you ask

635
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:07.320
one question and that ten more questions come up. But

636
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:11.559
is this a thing where you want stuff to continue

637
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:13.639
to keep happening or you're just like, you know, I

638
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:17.320
experience this stuff. It's confusing. I'm not sure what to

639
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:19.360
make of it, and I'm just trying to figure it

640
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:20.320
out as I go along.

641
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:24.679
You know, I'm sixty one years old.

642
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.000
I mean, I have more of my life behind me

643
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:30.519
than ahead of me. I mean, I just I'm an

644
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:35.079
experience whatever life gives me, and I am very interested

645
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:39.280
in the subject. And that's why you know, I'm listening

646
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:40.800
to all these podcasts I do.

647
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.599
I do support the paranormal.

648
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:49.800
I have a lot of authors that I moderate panels with,

649
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:55.639
you know, to help them, you know, a sell their books,

650
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:58.280
but you know, talk about these subjects because I do

651
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:02.320
find especially I have done panels on the UFO phenomenas,

652
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:07.519
and I've done it on paranormal meaning psychic and ghost hunting.

653
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:11.679
And you know, these people are all earnest and I

654
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:15.880
believe their stories and their books are wonderful. And I

655
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.360
think it's important because if you've had these experiences nine

656
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:21.199
times out of ten, you're going to be made fun of.

657
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.119
And I feel like we're in a good time now

658
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.440
because people are actually getting the word out and because

659
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.920
a lot of these I'm sure you know better than

660
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:35.639
I do, they're really you know, can cause psychological damage

661
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:37.800
to the people. And then when they tell it and

662
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.519
then people make fun of them. I mean, they need

663
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:43.239
the support, and I think what you do, what Wessel

664
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.800
and all the podcasters is invaluable. It really is, you know.

665
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:49.320
I mean I would hate it. And I've had people

666
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.159
say I believe you think you see ghosts and like, okay,

667
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:53.880
condescending much.

668
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:56.519
You know, but you know I've had this is.

669
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.519
My life and I'm not lying. I you know, I

670
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:01.440
of my children's lives.

671
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:03.599
I mean, it's just what it's happened.

672
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:09.239
And you know, it's sad when people don't have the support. Now,

673
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:11.760
my husband's not totally on board with Bigfoot, but he

674
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:15.320
knows about the ghosts and the spirits. He's you know,

675
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.400
he's experienced.

676
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:17.280
It, you know.

677
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:26.039
Yeah, I mean I PTSD from this subject. From people

678
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:29.599
that have had experiences, some of the experiences get so intense.

679
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:34.599
I mean they're in a tent by themselves something. And

680
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:39.039
I just just talk to an individual Mounthood National Forest.

681
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:47.079
This lady was by herself in a tent and something came.

682
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.920
I mean, the Bigfoot were coming into the camp like crazy,

683
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.719
and one night she one came close to the tent

684
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:58.559
and like was smelling her hair through the tent and

685
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.360
she was just square at the top of her lungs.

686
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:04.079
But The crazy thing is like no one else could

687
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.000
hear her screaming that night through the through the camp,

688
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:11.639
which leads us back to that question, can they affect

689
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:16.119
what we hear? You know, which that's even scarier. But

690
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:17.639
but the thing I want to say is, you know,

691
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:23.320
even myself as a bigfoot podcaster, you know, a person

692
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:28.880
who talks to people, even I experienced it, sometimes people

693
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.480
will ask, hey, what is it that you do well?

694
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:33.559
I talk to people about their bigfoot encounters. I've had

695
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:38.800
people that literally turn on their heel and walk away,

696
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:40.719
they don't even say by it, And I'm like, oh

697
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.400
my goodness, this is and that is such a small

698
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.440
thing to deal with. I mean, some of these, some

699
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:51.840
of these witnesses they are going through just ridicule. I

700
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.280
mean you think of Bob Gimlin, the stuff that he

701
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.639
went through and his wife, she was working at the

702
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:01.599
bank and she's just people were met with her and

703
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:05.280
for years, you know, Bob wasn't coming into the public eye,

704
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:10.800
and thankfully he did, but you're right, you know, things

705
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:14.920
need to keep being shared. You know, I would hope

706
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:19.679
witnesses keep coming forward and a show like mine or

707
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:24.199
Wes's or like Brian King Sharp or Miguel and all

708
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:29.400
these all these guys just so that someone has the

709
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:33.960
place to to share what they've been experiencing. But but Jennifer,

710
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.800
it has been a really fun chat talking to you

711
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:43.039
about Massachusetts. I mean these areas I'm you know, grew

712
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.800
up in in the regions, so I know you know

713
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.840
what you're dealing with out there. And also, you know,

714
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.840
we were talking about Mike Fame a lot before the

715
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:55.480
show and how he's down there in New Jersey, so

716
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:57.920
I've talked to him quite a bit, and so I'm

717
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.360
aware that you know, no othern northern New Jersey Sussec County,

718
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.920
there's there's tons of bigfoot activity down there. But I

719
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.960
just want to say thank you so much for coming

720
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.679
on the show. I want to make sure that that

721
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:13.360
you were able to share everything that you came to

722
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.000
the show to talk about today.

723
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.760
Yeah, I'm good, and thank you for having me on.

724
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.360
And I mean my encounters.

725
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:24.800
Were super exciting because I didn't see anything, but they

726
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.320
were just odd and who knows if they were bigfoot related.

727
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:32.199
But I again, after listening to all the podcasts this

728
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:35.480
past maybe eight nine months, I'm like, those were things

729
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:40.880
that now I'm like hmm.

730
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:44.119
So absolutely and listeners. If anyone you know in the

731
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:48.039
same areas that Jennifer's brought up, if you've experienced something

732
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:51.159
or had something happen you think might be bigfoot related,

733
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:53.079
feel free to either you can leave it in the

734
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:55.719
comments on YouTube, or feel free to reach out to

735
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:59.159
me through email. It's Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

736
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.079
But thank you so much for being here Jennifer, and

737
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:03.400
thanks all for listening today.

738
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:05.199
Thank you.

739
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.159
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

740
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:13.440
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

741
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.320
would love to get out in those woods and experience

742
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:20.880
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

743
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.480
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

744
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:29.440
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

745
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:33.119
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

746
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:37.320
even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

747
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.039
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

748
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:45.559
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

749
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:51.800
heard anywhere else, because let's just say, sometimes it's well,

750
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:53.960
you just got to be there. We'll leave at that.

751
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.760
More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

752
00:41:56.840 --> 00:42:01.960
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

753
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.880
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

754
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:10.079
not only go to the festival, but you can also

755
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:17.679
sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

756
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.440
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots

757
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:26.400
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

758
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:30.079
up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

759
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:33.320
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

760
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:36.440
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

761
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.719
It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

762
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:44.840
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

763
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:49.440
dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

764
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:54.199
like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a two

765
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.239
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

766
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:02.320
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

767
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:08.840
that you guys can can get a little help with

768
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:12.159
the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

769
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:16.440
you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can

770
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:18.760
talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

771
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:22.400
many people last year and the year before it is

772
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.360
an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

773
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:30.159
and I'll see you there before we wrap this episode.

774
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:32.800
I want to say something directly to a very specific

775
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:36.320
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

776
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.320
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

777
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.599
can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or

778
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:46.199
forestryt worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're

779
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.639
a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

780
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.840
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

781
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:56.400
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

782
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.400
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

783
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:03.119
search and res responder who's heard screams or found tracks

784
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:06.280
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

785
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.119
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

786
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.840
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

787
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.480
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

788
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.039
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

789
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.800
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

790
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:28.079
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

791
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:31.920
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA,

792
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.519
NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the

793
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:40.159
public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even

794
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:45.239
if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society

795
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:48.360
at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what

796
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:52.920
you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

797
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:58.239
You've got the story, We've got the mic see you

798
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:00.800
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

799
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.039
of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

800
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:06.599
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

801
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.599
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

802
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:12.840
tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure

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810
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:36.519
has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear

811
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.719
from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail

812
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:43.039
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818
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.079
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819
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:05.599
along with the big Foot Society until next time. Keep

820
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.519
your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking

821
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:10.480
what else might be out there? And see you in

822
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:10.920
the woods.