Strange Experiences Near Jiminy Peak In The Massachusetts Berkshires

0:00 You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Big for Society, Welcome back to another show. We've got the privilege of talking to Jennifer today. Jennifer's listener of the show, also supporter of the show, and we got connected because Jennifer has a few interesting experiences to share, primarily from the state of Massachusetts, which listeners of the show will know. I'm from originally from the Western side. So welcome to the show, Jennifer.

0:56 How are you doing today? I'm joined? Well, thank you, Jeremiah, absolutely you know. Well, first off, is there anything else that listeners would need to know about you? For contacts before we start chatting about what you've experienced. Just that. When I was probably about eleven or twelve, I grew up in northwest New Jersey, which a lot of people don't realize. It's super Whirl and we have big forest, and I grew up near a pipeline and I got interested in bigfoot because after a snowstorm, my friends and I were up on the pipeline because we didn't have school that day, and we saw some footprints and then you know, then I guess I'm of the age where it was who was the guy from star Trek who did in search of Probably yeah, and they would have Bigfoot on there, and it just always pequed my interest.

1:57 But then fast forward to Massachusetts. I'm married and we have a place up at a resort, a townhouse called Jimmy Peak, and I kind of got into listening to your podcasts and a few others probably last year, and I didn't realize more of the things that people report about Bigfoot. And that's why when I recount what happened at our townhouse, I mean, I've never seen a big Bigfoot, but I think what happened, and I'm not saying it's definitively really was a bigfoot thing, but it was always odd to me. And then when I listened to certain podcasts, I didn't realize bigfoot would actually come up to houses and slap them and hit them.

2:41 And then I was like. Oh, maybe that's what happened at Jimmy Peaks. So I don't know if you want me to start the story. I think I want to do a little bit of context for listeners. I feel like I always have to do this for Massachusetts because so many people, I think are thinking of Boston and like, there's no yeah, there's no bigfoot stuff in Boston. Well, so jim Andy Peak area, that's that's more the northwest corner of Massachusetts. Correct. Yeah, yeah, we're. About a mile from the New York border of Stephntown, so you're about as west as you can get in Massachue. Absolutely, so you are up there kind of where it gets extremely wild. You know, you're You've got the Berkshire's out there, You've got North Adams and it's just it is a whole different ballgame when you're trying to drive that area from New York and then across over to to route too. So if you've got the idea of Boston and the Cape. You want to get that idea out of your head. This is this is definitely a more rough and remote area, wooded area of New England.

3:52 So just wanted to throw that out there. But yeah, feel free to uh to take us back to you know, when you started to realize there might be something going on with your property out there in Western Mass. Okay, Well we're in Jimminy Peaks and Handcoff Mass. It's actually not far from Pittsfield, but it's it's still rural. I mean, you have the ski area there. I believe the. Appalachian Trail isn't that far from there, and then you have Mount Greylock, which isn't far from my townhouse at all, where I think there's been quite a few sightings as well. I think one in Williamstown also not long ago. But anyway, it was what we call shoulder season. It was probably early spring, so it's when ski season is over, or they call it mud season. And my daughter had just gone away to college that following the fall. So I think that I set you the wrong data. I think it was twenty twenty four, not twenty twenty three, so two years ago or twenty twenty three. I don't know if she as a junior now. I can't do the math, but anyway, it was shoulder season, so we have we're at the end of the country in and we're at the base of the mountain. So above us is a ski area.

5:13 It's it's a. Run of one of the runs, so it's up a couple. Hundred feet and then it drops off. In back of our townhouse to a switchback road that also, in thinking about it, our shed is there where we put the garbage, so maybe that's a factor as well. But so and through the years, we've been going up there thirty years, and so I always take the dogs out a couple times. And we just had the. Corgi was about a year old, and so I always take them out when right before we go to bed, and. It was about eleven o'clock. And in the past when I've taken the dogs out at night, do you ever have that feeling of being watched?

5:57 You know, especially it's almost like you could feel it seering into your back. And I would always feel like it was at that skier like way above me, something peering down. But I digress. On that. So I took the dogs. There's like a little patch of woods that I would always bring them to to do their business. And so we went down and as the dogs were entering, we heard a really low guttural growl and like all three of us just took off. The dogs were like, yeah, we're done, and we ran into the condo and. I was like, you know, growing up in we're old New Jersey. You know, we have black bears. We didn't have as many when I was a kid, but you know, and we have bobcats and what we do have mountain lions, even though they say we don't. But so I figured, oh, maybe it was just that, you know, I mean, you try in your mind. But it scared the heck out of all three of us. Even the dogs were like, yeah, we're good. You know.

6:51 We went back to the. So it was about a half hour later and we went up the second floor and the master and. I let the dogs sleep with me. My husband wasn't around, he doesn't like the doss. And all of a sudden, from the back of the condo, something hit the condo and it shook like really hard, and we do we're attached, and we do have neighbors that have teenage boys. So I thought, oh, that was weird because I felt it from the back. But I thought, oh, maybe they just got here late and the boys are all clomping up the stairs because it's to the right of my bedroom. You know, we're attached. But it was weird because I felt it from the back because it didn't feel like the stairs. But you know, you're tired, you just like whatever. So when I got out the next morning, nobody was there. I was the only one that stayed the night in our five condos. And you know, when you file something away in your head and you're like, oh, that's weird. And then when I started talking or listening to the podcast, I was like, hmm, you know, maybe that's an explanation, but I don't know.

7:58 Would they do they. Come that close to the houses. I mean, it was pretty desolate, but it was just strange. That's all. Yeah. I mean, the people that I've talked to over the years, this is a pretty you know, if they're going to be on the property, usually what will happen if they start to get really comfortable and they want to mess around, is they will and it usually ends up being the room where the person is sleeping, and it's like next to their head for some reason. And that that's a whole different question. It's like can they somehow see through walls or like heat signatures or know where you are?

8:42 But the interesting thing that always brings up, and I guess I'll ask it to you in a question, is did you get a sense of how high up on the wall they were hitting when they hit the side? Well, they had to have hit, see, I was on second floor. I think they hit like we have little in the back, So my master is in the front of the condo, and then behind me is another small bedroom, then the downstairs underneath that is you know, the staircase in the kitchen, and we have all have little decks in the back. And I got the feeling they hit between our two decks, of my neighbors and myself. But I mean, these things were built in the eighties.

9:26 I don't know how well they were built. But it shook. I've never felt the you know, and I'm not embellishing it. I remember thinking it's odd because I felt it from the back. You know, how you get a sense where and how it shook. It shook forward, but you know, I just wanted to rationalize it in my mind that it was going up the staircase. But really, in thinking about it, it's never the kids clumping on the stairplan case has never. Felt yeah, yeah, you know that's going to be different. It was just strange. And then since you know the property pretty well, you'd have to think about Okay, so if something was standing back there and hitting the side of the house in the area where it hit, you know, how how high up would it have to be reaching from where it would be standing.

10:19 I mean, to hit it like that, I would say at least seven. Or eight feet Okay, gotcha. Yeah, so that's that's something pretty tall or able to reach up pretty high. I mean, I wish I walked back there, and I didn't because I had already set out, you know, and then you know, I was busy. I can't remember what I was doing then, but I wish I had walked back there because it was muddy. I bet there would have been principle. Oh, I'm sure there probably would have been something. I was just gonna just going to ask you that. So it is a residence that split you have the other individuals that are you said it's a kind of a split residence. There are there other neighbors that are close by as well.

11:11 Yeah, it's five units, so townhouses are connected, so it's five units. We're the fourth one down, so it's kind. Of on an incline. And then the ski area is a few hundred feet up, you know, so there's all birch trees obviously because we're in the persures and pines and what have you. And then there's a switchback road behind us that is about a couple maybe I don't know, eighty feet or sixty feet. I'm not great with measurements below off our deck, you know, we have a little bit. I'm sorry, I'm not great at explaining things. But it was just odd. It was something that I always thought was odd. But then when I started listening to the podcasts, I'm like, huh, maybe maybe that Because I know I'm not far from Lenox, maybe forty minutes and October State Forest is that has had a lot of I mean, there's a lot going on around Jimminy Peak. I just didn't know if they would come so close, you know, to houses like that, but I guess.

12:21 They do absolutely. I mean I've talked to a few people in the area. So like October Mountain, Yeah, that's really active. You've got I want to see. It's Bear Town or Bear Mountain, Great Barrington area. I spent a lot of time out there because my grandparents were in that area. So like around Monument Mountain, just just a very I mean the houses are literally up to the sides of the mountains in some places. And I mean I remember staying at my grandmothers when I was a little kid, and we would look outside and there'd be thirty turkeys in the front yard and deer, and I mean the wildlife is just there's not much separating you from what's out in the woods, which is incredible. So was that the weirdest thing that you've experienced or have you?

13:17 Have you seen other things or weird things happen around the same property. Not really, because it's not our primary and we generally just use it in the winter, but I do. My daughter had I don't know if you know where Suffield, Connecticut is, it's right by Alkalam. My daughter went to high school there at the boarding school. And I hate ninety so I would take twenty. You know that goes along the river. You go through Beckett, go past Jacob's Pillow and all that, and it. Was just my kind of zen. And then I would scirrel all the back roads through Westfield and drop down to Suffield. It probably took me about twenty minutes longer, but it was just I don't like that.

14:01 You know how ninety is, And there's that one. Stretch when you I think, if you got stuck, you're just done, because there's between Jim Andy, you take the Berkshire Extension, you grab it. Yeah, you're talking about stretch if yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's ninety. I think. I don't know, but I used to take I think I believe twenty. And I would go in because I'd love to go to my daughter's uh softball and uh this was in the fall though, and so I and it was, you know, a warm fall day, and I was driving and I was like a little ahead of schedule. So I figured I'd get out stretch my legs because my knees were I just got them replaced, but they would get stiff then because they were hurting me.

14:50 I had my daughter in my forty, so I'm an older mom. So I stopped at this like rest stop. It overlooks it. I think it's right before Russell. It's I think it's. The Blamford is it Blamford State Forest. It's there's that section you go through on T I think that's the name. Don't quote me. And again I didn't know about all this stuff. But I stopped at the rest off and I was just sitting there kind of enjoying myself. And then all of a sudden, I got a really weird feeling of just dread and like, oh, I need to get out of here. And then it was weird because. For about four or five seconds, I couldn't hear anything, and I almost felt like it was just weird. And all of a sudden, I couldn't hear anything, and I'm thinking of my you know, having a stroke, or is my hear Like is there something wrong with me? I tend to have low blood pressure, not high blood pressure, but I you know, and I just did. It lasted, like I said, maybe four seconds, but it scared me because it's just and then because I could hear the rustling of the leaves, I could hear it had rained the night before, so the you know the river, you know how the river sometimes can be deeper and sometimes more shallow, and I could. I thought I could hear it when I sat down, and then all of a sudden I could, And then it was almost like I didn't hear it. But do you ever get like a high pitched in your ear and it lasts for a few seconds. It was almost like that, but just imagine

16:21 not being able to hear and it kind of came and went. But it was just strange, and I felt funny and thought, well, am I dehydrated? So I just went back to the bar and drank some water and went on my way. But it was the weirdest thing. I actually went to the audiologist two weeks later and explained the whole thing, and he's like, well, you're fine, you know, I said, you don't think I was having a stroke or anything. He goes, no, if you're having a stroke, you probably wouldn't be talking. To me, right, Yeah, exactly so. But it was strange and I and again, never knew about this stuff till I started listening, you know, to your podcasts. And Westes, and you know, the ear thing is such such a weird thing. Was there anything with like could you feel like pressure changes during the same like your ear drum pressure changing at all, or it was just like Boem.

17:14 Signed, well, that's yeah, because you know when you get that ringing in your ear, you get that pressure. It was the same thing, but not being able to hear. Yeah, no, exactly because the one time I've experienced that was in just outside of Oakridge. One of the times I was up there and got super quiet and then couldn't hear anything. Oh man, it was weird. It was so weird. Pressure started changing. It felt like you were in an ear bubble or or underwater. Is very strange stuff. So and I've heard other witnesses say that too. The other really interesting thing about the Blandford and I believe I'm looking at yeah, Blamford by Russell, I'm looking at the right area. It's just north of Cobble Mountain Reservoir, which has come up on the show before, and that is a super super active area. It's actually come up two times. There's Ernie Devereux's encounter when he's hunting, and then the Volgel Brothers have a lot of encounters. And I mean it's not that far north of where twenty three is on Blamford. So I say all that to say it's not the question that you were pulled over.

18:34 You may have experienced something weird and something Bigfoot related in that area for sure. I mean it's just strange. I mean I always grapple with I would love we go up the Taconic Parkway all the time, and I know I think I heard a show of yours that someone saw one. I know the exact spot. Actually, I just. Was looking, you know. Now I'm looking all the. Time because I know they're in that area too. I would love to see one, I think, But then sometimes I'm not so sure. So because I do believe. They exist, there's no doubt in my line. So but I have a question for you. That weird thing that happened by the river. I mean, do people have any explanations for it? I mean, is it now that I'm listening to everything, I mean, do we think it's like, why would that happen?

19:28 Is it? Not to get too weird? But is it a dimensional thing? When when I was in my twenties, I read this book. It kind of dumped down quantum physics. It's called Dance of the Wooly Masters. It's a phenomenal book. And it kind of explains basic physics and quantum physics. And I mean it's just weird. I mean, I know there's some wu side of Bigfoot, but like, can they change the atmosphere like that? Can they? Are they changing your dimension? What's going on? I mean, nobody knows the but it's just interesting, right right. It is a thing where at this point, since you know the point from what we know, there hasn't been one studied, and so you don't know what it can do right now. I know what I've been told from reports and what I've experienced, and it does seem that in these areas where there is said to be activity and they're charged up, people are experiencing things like the pressure changing suddenly in their ears and not being able to hear anything, or it goes very quiet, or they hear something that sounds like a metal door opening. Some people think that might be related to portal activity. Perhaps there's also another really weird thing I experienced in the same area is so me and a gentleman we were

20:58 hearing howell screams from in the woods, and another person that was right next to us, I was like, I can't hear any of that. I didn't hear any of that, And then later on it would be reversed where this individual would hear something coming from the woods and we didn't hear any of it either. So really, I think another question to ask is, you know, is there a way that these you know, whatever they are, can affect the senses of humans where they can affect what we are seeing, what we are hearing, maybe even smelling. Who knows, And I don't know if that is something where it's related to infrasound. You know, for every question you ask, it feels like there's ten more questions that come up, and everyone has a different way of looking at it, which is why one of the reasons I love this topic because you can get really really deep into it.

21:57 But yeah, I mean I hope that in our life sometime we start to get these answers, but I'm not really sure if we ever will, to be honest. Yeah, no, it is kind of crazy because I kind of got into the I don't know if you want to me talk about other paranormal things. But I lived in a house for thirty years that was haunted in Canada, and that's how I started really looking into But I always had things since I was a little kid, and my Grandma passed away. She was in her eighties, and I think she might have had some kind. Of paranormal things.

22:37 So she had all these books hidden away, you know, edgar case and metaphysical things, and I think that you know, she graduated from Barnard College. In nineteen seventeen. She was very learned, but I think she might have hid this part of herself, you know, and my daughter has it. I have it. I have a nephew that is a sensitive as well. And you know, that's where I think the dimensions come in. I mean the physics. You know, they vibrated a different than us, but sometimes, like I guess, the vibrations match up, or you can. I can feel. I have seen a lot of spirit, but I since them. We just moved to a new house down in New Jersey and I did see a Revolutionary War spirit, which was kind of wild.

23:24 And I know people are probably going to think I'm crazy, but it really happened. I'm married to a chemist, and he never believed this stuff till now, after thirty years in our Connecticut house, he believes. Oh so even he has experienced weird things in this Connectic house. Now. It's very interesting because you know that's another pattern. You know, individuals that have these experiences with you know, what we think is bigfoot hugely it's a thing. I mean you can ask every time where has other stuff happened? Have you experienced anything else? Have you had a UFO experience, et cetera. It's like every time it's just either they're open to it or they are as you said, they're more sensitive to it. I mean, I don't I can't think of a time really where it hasn't happened where an individual hasn't had multiple type encounters. And I don't know really what the explanation is, especially when it when they have the bigfoot encounter and then the stuff starts kicking in. It's like, well, did you get open up to everything and now these things kind of get you know, magnetized and connected to you. I don't really know, but did you so you started experiencing that stuff before your your bigfoot experience though?

24:52 I mean yeah, I mean I was. I was in Connecticut, but in the little nubs, so we're a little too close to New York City. I mean, I don't know, in Fairfield County, but I was close to the New York border. Also, there, but I don't know if I mean, we had a beautiful home in the woods, but but we generally had more of the paranormal with the you know, the ghost the spirits, and they were pretty I actually eventually had a couple of ghost tempting groups come in and they would call me every once in a while and say, hey, I got new equipment. Can I come to your house? Because I know it all. You know, it was very active. In fact, when I sold it, we had I told them this, you know, we've had issues and but nothing you know, demonic or I don't know all those shows, but I guess it happens.

25:42 But it was very how would you say, I'm not really versed in that side. They're just kind of hanging out. They're not causing any harm. No, there was through Well, can I tell you a quick story. It's kind of an interesting one. We did have a little boy, and I didn't find out his name till I have ten years between my children. Not great planning. But and when my son was about three, I thought I saw him. He was blonde and sitting on you know, we had your basic center hall colonial so I was walking into the foyer, I thought I saw him at the corner of my eyes, sitting on the stairs, and I thought he was in the family room by the kitchen, and I turned to say, Gordon, what are you doing here?

26:35 And he wasn't there, And then I walked and he's in the family room. And Gordon every once in a while would say he saw, you know, somebody walked by or but nothing as definite as my daughter. So fast forward. My daughter's about three and she starts telling me that a boy named Arnold keeps coming to her room at night. And I said, okay, what is our look like? Now, you've got to stay with me on this one. She said, his arms and legs are the wall, but his face isn't. And what I figured out is she didn't know the word transparent, so he must have been solid in his head, but she could see the wall through his arms and legs because he was transparent.

27:18 My goodness. And that was kind of wild. That's weird. I mean, that's something you're not expecting to run into for sure. Were you seeing any any like spheres or orbs or anything at time? I did well. When we did have the investigators come in, and they got a lot of pictures of orbs. They even got a shadow figure because we also had a I'd later found out her name is Grace through EVPs, and Grace was lovely. I actually miss Grace. I was hoping maybe she was attacked to one of my antiques and would follow me here to New Jersey. But she would hum and she would leave like a floor and they actually got a shadow figure of her, and you can kind of see the bustle of her Victorian She was from the Victorian era. My house was built in the sixties for like IBM executives, but the land was well I had been Indian land that then they gave over to the Dutch, and then it had been an estate, part of an estate for Nora Mellen who.

28:25 Had married Andrew Carnegie. Mellon, and they did have twin boys, but I couldn't I've tried to research and see what they're twin boys, but that was the turn of the century. But I learned that from all the ghost hunter groups that came in, but they took pictures. But I really liked Grace. I know it sounds weird because my parents were both sick and dying at the same time, and I was very upset and I was in the kitchen cooking by the counter and I felt a hand on my back and it was come burning. I know it would freak a lot of people out, but I really felt that it was weird. Maybe people think I'm too codependent, but you know, because I hate these shows. It's always a demon and this and that. I mean, I don't know, I felt comfort from her, you know, I really don't so weird.

29:14 The weird thing is the crossover in the way that you just describe some things and how you you hear those come up in other witness accounts too, And I'm thinking specifically like the floral scent, like you you can hear that come up in certain Bigfoot witness accounts too, where they're like, all of a sudden, they smelled some kind of flower, you know, and then around their Bigfoot experience, which I don't know if you've ever read Dark Matter Monsters by doctor Simmon him, but it is a fantastic read. Now it is.

29:55 It's about like quantum. It's got a quantum physics and stuff in there. But what he does is he kind of tries to make sense of everything and how the paranormal stuff in the Bigfoot stuff could all be related into the same deal, and what the what the reasons behind it could be and is if you're into that kind of stuff, I would recommend it. It's a fun one to check out. You have to read it if I had to read a few times, but it is, it's a fun one. I think I probably would too well. I definitely will take that recommendation. It's just.

30:35 I don't know. It's having had all these experiences and then finding out again in the last year or so that there is a I guess people called the WU side of Bigfoot. I have to tell you, when I first heard it, I wanted to reject it, reject it wholeheartedly. I just wanted it to be an eighth that were a missing link. I didn't want it to have a paranormal component, which is stupid considering I lived in a house that was haunted for thirty years and I'm sitting there, Why am I wanting to reject this? And you know, the more I listen, because I don't think these people are lying, I just don't, and so I don't. I'm still having trouble reconciling it. And I think the Bigfoot community from what I'm hearing as a.

31:20 Whole is Yeah, the way I look at it is so more like the paranormal side. I think it is. It's what we haven't reconciled in our minds yet. It's what we don't understand scientifically. So you know, a lot of the community will say on we side as in seeing those people are crazy, which I reject with the most of my being. One that's being a terrible person. It's not treating people in a great way. You're just calling them crazy too. If we're going to figure this out, we got to have our minds open to what these people, these witnesses, are saying. And the thing about it is all these witnesses are not just all getting together at some retreat and saying, Okay, if we talk to the podcasters, make sure you say this, this, and this. These are people that don't know each other from different time periods, some from yesterday, some from fifty years ago. And I mean, here's an example. I just talked to an individual who had a mind speaker or telepathy incident with what she thinks is a bigfoot back in nineteen seventy in Southeast Oklahoma, which I mean, I don't know if I've heard any other accounts of that far back for telepathy encounters. So yeah,

32:52 it's kind of a hot button topic with me because I just want people to be heard and to to not be made fun of. I mean, they didn't, they didn't. They didn't choose to be freaked out. They didn't choose to have something mess with their house or or leave you know, let's say, dead animals all over their lawn or or you know. There's one individual I talked to where they're in a cabin in northern Ontario and all of a sudden, a sasquatch appears next to their bed and then they blip out they disappeared. It's like, how do you explain that? You just can't. It's wild stuff.

33:38 Well that's the heck of a way. It really is. Yeah, I couldn't imagine. I don't know if i'd get out of bed, i'd be put me under the covers. But pretty wild stuff. Oh boy, But yeah, it really is. It really is. So yeah, I think there's a lot to the subject, and I hope, you know, some part of me hopes that we do get the. Proof we need, and part of me, I don't. Know if it would be a good thing for a sasquatch to be captured or I don't know. And can they be captured, I don't know. Or are there subs I kind of think maybe there because some people report round your heads, some more conical. Are there two different species where one has the paranormal.

34:24 And one doesn't? I don't know. I mean, I'm just surmizing. No one really knows. These are the things I think about the exactly. It's a really good point because there are people that bring up, you know that there could be two different types. There could be a much older I think some people call them like ancient ones, and they may have more of a rounder head, and then you've got ones that have like that, that more sagur little crest to the top of their heads, which you know, kind of has like you look at a gorilla, et cetera. Things like that. It's just one of those things, you know, you ask one question and that ten more questions come up. But is this a thing where you want stuff to continue to keep happening or you're just like, you know, I experience this stuff. It's confusing. I'm not sure what to make of it, and I'm just trying to figure it out as I go along.

35:23 You know, I'm sixty one years old. I mean, I have more of my life behind me than ahead of me. I mean, I just I'm an experience whatever life gives me, and I am very interested in the subject. And that's why you know, I'm listening to all these podcasts I do. I do support the paranormal. I have a lot of authors that I moderate panels with, you know, to help them, you know, a sell their books, but you know, talk about these subjects because I do find especially I have done panels on the UFO phenomenas, and I've done it on paranormal meaning psychic and ghost hunting.

36:07 And you know, these people are all earnest and I believe their stories and their books are wonderful. And I think it's important because if you've had these experiences nine times out of ten, you're going to be made fun of. And I feel like we're in a good time now because people are actually getting the word out and because a lot of these I'm sure you know better than I do, they're really you know, can cause psychological damage to the people. And then when they tell it and then people make fun of them. I mean, they need the support, and I think what you do, what Wessel and all the podcasters is invaluable. It really is, you know. I mean I would hate it. And I've had people say I believe you think you see ghosts and like, okay, condescending much.

36:53 You know, but you know I've had this is. My life and I'm not lying. I you know, I of my children's lives. I mean, it's just what it's happened. And you know, it's sad when people don't have the support. Now, my husband's not totally on board with Bigfoot, but he knows about the ghosts and the spirits. He's you know, he's experienced. It, you know. Yeah, I mean I PTSD from this subject. From people that have had experiences, some of the experiences get so intense. I mean they're in a tent by themselves something. And I just just talk to an individual Mounthood National Forest.

37:41 This lady was by herself in a tent and something came. I mean, the Bigfoot were coming into the camp like crazy, and one night she one came close to the tent and like was smelling her hair through the tent and she was just square at the top of her lungs. But The crazy thing is like no one else could hear her screaming that night through the through the camp, which leads us back to that question, can they affect what we hear? You know, which that's even scarier. But but the thing I want to say is, you know, even myself as a bigfoot podcaster, you know, a person who talks to people, even I experienced it, sometimes people will ask, hey, what is it that you do well?

38:31 I talk to people about their bigfoot encounters. I've had people that literally turn on their heel and walk away, they don't even say by it, And I'm like, oh my goodness, this is and that is such a small thing to deal with. I mean, some of these, some of these witnesses they are going through just ridicule. I mean you think of Bob Gimlin, the stuff that he went through and his wife, she was working at the bank and she's just people were met with her and for years, you know, Bob wasn't coming into the public eye, and thankfully he did, but you're right, you know, things need to keep being shared. You know, I would hope witnesses keep coming forward and a show like mine or Wes's or like Brian King Sharp or Miguel and all these all these guys just so that someone has the place to to share what they've been experiencing. But but Jennifer, it has been a really fun chat talking to you about Massachusetts. I mean these areas I'm you know, grew up in in the regions, so I know you know what you're dealing with out there. And also, you know, we were talking about Mike Fame a lot before the show and how he's down there in New Jersey, so I've talked to him quite a bit, and so I'm aware that you know, no othern northern New Jersey Sussec County, there's there's tons of bigfoot activity down there. But I

40:06 just want to say thank you so much for coming on the show. I want to make sure that that you were able to share everything that you came to the show to talk about today. Yeah, I'm good, and thank you for having me on. And I mean my encounters. Were super exciting because I didn't see anything, but they were just odd and who knows if they were bigfoot related. But I again, after listening to all the podcasts this past maybe eight nine months, I'm like, those were things that now I'm like hmm. So absolutely and listeners. If anyone you know in the same areas that Jennifer's brought up, if you've experienced something or had something happen you think might be bigfoot related, feel free to either you can leave it in the comments on YouTube, or feel free to reach out to me through email. It's Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

40:59 But thank you so much for being here Jennifer, and thanks all for listening today. Thank you. Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say, sometimes it's well, you just got to be there. We'll leave at that.

41:54 More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

42:36 It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the code b sp like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a two day pass for the price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can can get a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before it is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it, and I'll see you there before we wrap this episode.

43:30 I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestryt worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and res responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

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