Nov. 12, 2025

Terrifying Loon Lake & Bumping Lake Bigfoot Encounters | Real Idaho & Washington Sightings

Terrifying Loon Lake & Bumping Lake Bigfoot Encounters | Real Idaho & Washington Sightings
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Season 1

In this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast, Jeremiah Byron talks with Rob from Idaho, a veteran Bigfoot researcher with over two decades of experience in the Pacific Northwest.

Rob shares terrifying firsthand encounters from two of the most active Sasquatch hotspots in the United States — Loon Lake, Idaho and Bumping Lake, Washington.
Hear about eerie yellow eye-shine, a strange siren-like howl, and the mysterious low-frequency hum that shook the ground during a BFRO expedition.

You’ll also learn about Rob’s later investigations in Northern Idaho and the Sawtooth Mountains, his possible brush with a glowing orb, and what it’s really like to search for Bigfoot in some of America’s most remote wilderness.👣 Highlights:

  • Loon Lake (Idaho): overnight Bigfoot encounter, glowing eyes, and Ohio-style howls
  • Bumping Lake (Washington): unexplained vibrations and shadow movement
  • Sawtooth Mountains (Idaho): glowing orb and green-eyed figure sighting
  • Rob’s work with BFRO and Finding Bigfoot
If you love real Bigfoot sightings, true encounter stories, and cryptid research from Idaho and Washington, this episode is a must-listen.

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You're listening to bigflet Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Rob today. Rob is

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an individual that I got connected to over on Facebook

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and he's been through some really interesting things. We're going

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to hear about some experiences that he's had tonight. He's

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been a researcher since two thousand and four, and we

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might hear later about how he was on the show

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finding Bigfoot as well, and maybe even some expeditions that

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he's been on. But Rob, welcome to the show. How

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are you doing today, sir?

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I'm doing great here. What I am doing great?

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Fantastic.

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I've lived in Idaho for a number of years. I

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moved here in nineteen seventy six and I've lived here since.

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But we moved from Beaverton, which is from Beaverton's over

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by the Portland area. It's like a suburb of Portland.

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And I remember hearing about a little bit of tidbits

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about Bigfoot over there, and I think I remember going

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to Bigfoot movie, like an old one, and so it was.

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I don't know if that's where the seed got planted

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or what. But I was very young when we were

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in Oregon. I was six by the time we I

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turned six at someone when we moved here, So I

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was pretty.

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Young, gotcha. And as you're going along and starting to

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get more into the subject, was there a experience that

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you had that really set things off. Maybe you're out

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in the woods and see something or hear something that

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really affected you.

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So my first real experience was when I so I

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went to a BFRO like the other expeditions, I think

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that was two thousand and six when I went to

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my first one, and so we didn't have sighting or

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anything like that, but I know on that trip some

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of the there was a few guys that I guess

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got to diet a cast with blasphar paris and we

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had some movement up in the trees and we could

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see it whatever it was swinging in the trees. We

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could see it on the therm and it was just

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almost it was just checking us out, watching us. And

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so that was my first experience with that. And then

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after I got home, I was just continuing to do

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research on my own or with my friend.

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I hiked up a little there's up in the foothills,

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there's these little areas that you can hike into and

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I found like a deer kill and I.

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Don't know what it was that killed it. If it was,

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it could have been a person, obviously, but it was

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very unusual. Front legs were missing, no head and had

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the twisting motion on a vertebrae, which I thought was unusual.

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No hide, it was hide was totally stripped, and also

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what was left of the hide, there was like pieces

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of the hide like in a circle around this deer kill.

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It was just really weird pieces of fur or whatever

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you want to call it, hair around the dierk kill.

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And I just thought that was a person didn't do that.

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I can't think of anybody else and no animal that

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I know could have done that. And that was the

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next step. And I sent some of that stuff to

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a lot of Williams and asked her what about it

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because I sent her some pictures and it was just inconclusive.

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And then from there was my experience Loon Lake, which

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is up by mycall. Me and a friend had quite

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a hear recent experience of Loon Lake, and it was

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we ended up spending the night out there. We weren't

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going to spend the night. We were trying to hike

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in and out on the same day, but it's about

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a five mile hike and if you don't, if you

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don't get busy and keep a pretty good pace, you

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could end up getting stuck out there. So that's what

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happened on that hike. So we got stuck out there,

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ended up spending the night, ended up seeing something that

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I had know answer for, and we saw yellow eyeshine,

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and we always felt like we were being tracked, which

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I thought was unusual. I've never gotten that feeling before,

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but we definitely had that feeling that night, and my

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friend thought he when he looked out in the woods,

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we were on the trail right like a four wheeler

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trail that we were following, and we were following the

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trail and he thought he saw something jump brow a log,

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he said, And yeah, that experience was pretty wild. We also,

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in the middle of the night heard what we thought

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was a siren, which I've heard this sink and make

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all kinds of noise and do all different kinds of things.

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And I didn't know what to think at the time.

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If I could have got out of there, I would have.

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But we're talking in the middle of the night, like

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eleven o'clock, eleven PM something like that. You know, it

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was just pitch black and you just heard this sounded

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exactly like a siren on the middle of the forest,

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and we're just looking at each other, like, what in

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the what was that? And so by the time we

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got out of there, it was morning, and we could

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hear these calls high up like probably I'm going to

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guess it was My phone was dead, so I couldn't

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even look at my phone and see what time it

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was and then I will watch them, but we couldn't

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hear or higher up, we could hear something sounded sounded

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like it was calling, And I said to my friend

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I'm like, what is this that and he goes, I

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don't know, the kid's clean, and I'm like, I don't know, man,

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it's six in the morning. Kids are going to be

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playing up on a hillside somewhere. It sounds pretty pretty

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unlikely to me. And it sounded like you've ever heard

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the Ohio how online. That's similar to what it sounded

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like was the ohioh but off in the distance. We

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heard that for a good I don't know, over an hour,

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for sure, hour and a half, and at the time

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we were just trying to get out of there. And

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then it was crazy because my friend and I got separated.

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And then because I was good, I'd been walking so long,

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and I took my shoes off, my boots and I just

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left my boots on because I was afraid I wouldn't

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get them back on, so I didn't take them off

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or anything, even at night, and so I just left

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my boots on, and I told my friend. I was

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just like, run ahead, get help, do anything, just get

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just so and get out of here. And so I

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was trying to stay put, but I was trying to

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see if I could find where he went, because we

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ended up going on a different trail out. Then we

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came in on, which I knew it was huge, no, no,

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but I didn't want to separate. And finally this guy

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in a motorcycle pops up and I'm just sitting there

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because I could hear him coming my way, and he's you, rob, yeah,

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and he goes, get on, I'll bring you back to camp,

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and I'm like, what, where's Torri. He goes, don't worry

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about it. You get on, I'll keep over there, and

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I'm like, okay. So I hopked on his dirt bike

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and he brought me back to where his camp was,

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and it was we're a good few miles away from

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the car even when his camp, so he set us

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back pretty far. But luckily he brought us back to

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my car. And yeah, it was her recent night. Nothing

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I've ever experienced for sure.

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Wow, that's extremely lucky for you guys. At the end.

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So this is like an alpine lake about sixty five

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hundred feet up. It looks like when I look it.

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Up, yeah Lin Lake. Yeah okay, And there's an old

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plane wreck back there from like World War two, and

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those guys had to pack it was pretty wild. We

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went and looked at it and everything, and that the

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wreckage of plane is still there, but they took all

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the electronics and everything out. Yeah, it was something to

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remember for sure. And yeah, once we got out of there,

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I was just like I always was happy to be out

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of there finally.

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Yeah, I don't blame yet. What year was this again?

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Yeah, so when that happened. I believe that was two

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thousand and nine. I want to say, yeah, I think

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it's two thousand and.

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Nine, gotcha, I believe. So you said you saw some

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yellow eyeshine. How high up was that eyeshine? Would you approximate?

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Yeah? And it was really weird. It was the eye

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shine wasn't very high. It was like maybe four to

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six inches off the ground, and they were almost like orbs,

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lowly lit yellow. The weird thing is it was only

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maybe fifteen to twenty feet from us at the most.

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And I'm just I was just sitting there with my

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mouth open and going, what in the heck it's going

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on here? But we didn't like the next morning and

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we checked for tracks. We didn't see tracks. We didn't

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see any There's nothing there. Granted it's hard ground, but

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we're something that big. You would have thought it would

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have left some kind of a lark and we could

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not find nothing. And it was only the next day

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when I really thought when we heard those calls, I

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was like, that's definitely something I've definitely heard that online before.

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And then we just the whole experience and like this

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find it hard to be hoaxed. I didn't find it

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hard that somebody hoaxed us. Oh sure for me, Yeah,

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I didn't tell anybody I was even going up there

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in my parents and I don't know about Toria, and

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I don't think he told anybody either, So that was, Yeah,

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that was our har reason experience because I did not

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expect it. We didn't have a sleeping bag, we had

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nothing to stay warm. Granted it was in July, and

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luckily I had my pack and started like a little

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fire and gathered up some wood and so we did that.

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At least we had something, but still get pretty chilly

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there even in July.

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And no shelter up there. It sounds like you did

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you shelter, figure out something with that yourself, then put

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some boughs together or something.

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Yeah, we didn't even we since we were since he

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and I were like wondering what the heck, it's going

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on here. We basically took turns tending the fire and

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watching it, and took turns sleeping, and then we just

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went back and forth through the night when I didn't

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get much sleep at all because close my eyes and

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all I could do is picture this hulking figure watching us,

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So that's all I could see when I tried to sleep,

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So I didn't needless say I didn't get much sleep.

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And yeah, so that was basically what we're doing, just

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going back and forth trying to make sure the fire

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was going.

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Absolutely. Yeah, And so was this experience would you say

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it was the time when you were pushed way past

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one hundred percent, Yeah, there's something out there or had

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you already gotten to that point in the BFRO expedition

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a few years prior.

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Yeah, I was by that time once I had the

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BFRO experience with the track casts and things like that,

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and hearing other people's stories and coming across There was

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even a couple of people that were like habituators, which

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means they knew somebody or they had experience with one

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that was ongoing where there was almost like a relationship

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where they saw it often and so hearing stuff like

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that really piqued my curiosity. But once we had this experience,

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I was like, Okay, this toss for real. There's no

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question having all the yeah, having all the experience, I

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was just like, there's no way this got to be

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the real deal. And that was my first BFRO we had.

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So you had connections with individuals that had a habituation

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going on.

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Yeah. When I went to that BFRO expedition, people share

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stories and went back and forth, and you get a

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lot of people asking you what your experience is with

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this and that, And I had any experience out of

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my first time. So I was trying to get my

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feet with trying to figure out how to research this

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and how to get out there and do it on

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my own. So once I did that, then I did

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a few of those and then I'm like, Okay, I

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think I can I can grasp this to where I

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can go out and do it and me have at

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least one other person. And because I used to go

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to Loon Lake by myself and nothing happened, I would

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always go to Loon Lake always because on the BFRO

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website was one of the areas where there was activity.

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So I'm like, man five mile hike. But I think

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I can do it because I hike. I hike enough,

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I can definitely do five miles. But I was always

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going by myself, so one time I take somebody with

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me end up having this crazy experience. So, yeah, that.

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First expedition you went on, was that in Washington then?

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Yeah, that one was. So the first one was in

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they called Bumping Lake. Oh sure, Yeah, if you were

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a bumping lake. This s known for activity. Bumping Lake.

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You go outside of Yakvon and then you just keep

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going and it gets to really a remote area kind

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of how the lake is. Get outside of town and

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it's really remote out there.

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Yeah, gotcha. So two thousand and six Bumping Lake, which

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is a location that's really well known in the community.

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Now for sure a lot of people I know about

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that area. I don't know if it was still the

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same back then, but we definitely.

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Had stuff going on just we had We definitely had

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something going on with it. We thought it was an owl, right,

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So it was weird though, because it was like, if

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one's an owl, there's something that's answering that that doesn't

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sound like an owl to me. That was the only

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thing I was trying to figure out. It was almost

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like it was something that was trying to draw the

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owl in and so for me that was had a

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question mark that ire like, I didn't feel like whatever

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I was answering owl was the same thing, Okay, and

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yeah it was. That's what made it interesting for me.

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And then seeing the figure in the trees and he

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was swaying between two trees just watching us, and I'm like, wow,

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this is pretty cool because I didn't have any experience

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at all. Also, I was just like the experience I

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can get.

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Great thing that is, that's really cool. So when you

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were hearing that callback, when the owl would make the

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noise and you would hear something else, was it because

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it was then too loud a noise that it threw

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you off or.

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Yeah, so yeah, I don't know. It was almost like

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it was like we would hear an owl in the

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hornell or whatever they thought it was, and then I'm like,

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I'd listen to it because They're like, yeah, that's what

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a hornell sounds like, and then I'm like, okay, I

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hear it on one end. But then whatever was calling back,

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it was like it was similar and the tone was

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about the same, but it seemed like it was a

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little bit off, like not quite the same as a

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al I didn't think, so there was a big question

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mark there still what that really was that? And it

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was weird. I got a low humming there too, a

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low kind of like a vibration like something I could

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really feel. I could even hear it, but some people

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just felt it. But it was it was really interesting area,

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really interesting.

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Okay over there, so that's extremely interesting. So you were

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hearing a low hum.

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Noise, Yeah, a low hum noise, and it was like, gosh,

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I don't know how to describe it. It was. I

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mean it was even. It was an even sound, but

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it was almost so low that not everybody could hear

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it or feel it.

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Okay, only some people could. That's really interesting.

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Yeah, some couldn't. And it was it was a wild

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like when you get a ringing in your ear and

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you can't get rid of it. I've ever had that, Yeah,

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when you get a ringing in your earside? Why is

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it doing that? I've had that happen before. That's how

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this was. Like. I didn't know how to get away

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from it because it was like it was to where

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I could hear it and I could feel it, and

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it's got This is so wild because I've never had

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that experience anywhere I've ever.

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Been, absolutely, And so were you feeling it that most

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people say like they feel it in their chest or

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were you feeling it a certain way?

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Then yeah, I could feel it. It seemed like it

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was right on the round level at my feet and

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it was like a to me, it just felt like

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a low vibration and then it was like a home

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like the home as song, and then it was just

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even and it was just really wild. I don't know

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how I described that because I've never had that anywhere

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else but there.

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That is really interesting to hear that brought up almost

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this is almost twenty years ago. We're talking about it

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right now. People are really looking into that hum noise.

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It's being recorded all over the US in different spots,

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and I tried and his guys are really looking into it.

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So it's cool to hear you talk about it in

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a situation that's almost twenty years back. Do you remember

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who the leader of that expedition was.

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I do. His name is Kevin Jones. Okay, Kevin was there. Yeah,

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he was there for that one, and he was there

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for that I went on another one in Northern Idaho.

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He led that one as well.

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That's awesome him.

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And yeah, Kevin Jones and then Mike Pierres was a

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guy that and I became friends through the second one.

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He's from Spokan.

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Gotcha. So the second expedition was that after the situation

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that happened in Loon Lake then in two thousand and nine.

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Yeah, so that was man. I would have to look

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up their jock year. But I think it was like

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twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen when I did that, and

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it was just kind of like it was a thing

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because because I had a whole group of us and

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the guy in the group asking would you consider doing this?

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And because they had one in Poketello one time in

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Eastern Idaho and he's been Brandon tennant, they wanted to

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have him go out with them, and I guess it

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just didn't work out because he's getting married and we

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had a lot of stuff on in his life. So

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he backed out and then he handed it to another Rob,

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Rob that I know, Rob Fields. Well Rob that Rob

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turned down, and then that Rob gave him my name.

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So then I'm like, something down, I'll do it.

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Oh, so they were leading it then.

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That I was leading my own group. Yeah, wow, but

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I wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't leading my own I wasn't leading.

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I wasn't leading the bo far O stuff. But yeah,

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I was leading my own group and we'd go out

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and we'd do stuff and see if we could get

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anything recorded or things answered. Because when in the beginning,

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it was just me and Tory in two thousand and four,

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and then once I started doing it, I did my

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page in my Northwest Bigfoot page, then it just started

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growing people. Yeah, people started joining up, and people were

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more interested in going out and seeing what they could

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dig up. And I'm like, okay, great, I'm down, because

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that was the all reason I started the page is

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to meet more people that would want to go out

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and do it.

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Interesting. So in this either twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen,

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do you remember, were there any interesting things that happened

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in the Northern Idaho expedition?

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Oh? Yeah, okay, that one, Yeah, that one. That one

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was pretty interesting. The funny thing about Northern Io is

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they have a lot of stuff going on out there,

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but they don't get recognized as much for some reason.

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But I did have I didn't have any sightings on

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that one either, but we did have activity. We did

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calls and the minute we did the calls, coyotes or

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we when we did the calls, we were getting answer

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to the calls because we were doing uther speaker, so

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we got to get a call back. The minute that

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call would start up, the coyotes would just go off

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and then you couldn't hear anything, like the coyotes were

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so loud that you couldn't hear anything with coyotes. And

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then we did the night drive one night and we

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went out. We had a we were actually in Coven'

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jeep and we had a we had a let's see,

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we had a camera up on top of this car,

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so one was poaning up and then I was holding

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the one was pointing back to see if something would

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pop out of the bush. And on that night we

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did the night walkuck. And when we did a night walk,

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I was sitting down and Mike was letting me use this.

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They call it bionic ear. So with that ear, you

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can hear a circumference of I don't know how many

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feet of probably at least a couple hundred feet all

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the way around you. And when I did that. I

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was just sitting there in the chair and you can hear.

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It's so sensitive. You can hear something that's is little

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is just like somebody shuffling their feet and just walking around.

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So I'm trying to tell everybody just you still off

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for just like a couple of minutes or something, because

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I think I'm getting something here. And I recorded what

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they call samurai chatter, and that's supposedly supposed to be

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like the way that they talk. They call it samurai chatter.

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And it was funny when he played it back, it

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almost sounded like Scooby Doo because he did like a

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little funny laugh almost, and it was really really wild,

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sounded like gibberish, and then it was almost like he

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did this giggle and that was super cool. That was

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really cool, and he played it for the group and

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everything the next day, so that was pretty awesome.

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So your buddy got that recorded. It's not something that

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you recorded.

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Though, no, because I used his equipment and I've always

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wanted to get that sound by of that of just

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like five or six seconds or whatever it is, because

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I'd been using it for about an hour. But that

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was the one little tidbit I got. And then also

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my buddy the next day asked me. He was like,

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he thought we were He thought I was playing a

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joke on him. He was like, were you missing with

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me last day? And I'm like, no, why what's going on?

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He goes, because something was pressing up against my tent

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and he goes, it was almost like a face. And

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he goes, I thought for sure it was you, And

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I go, no, man, it was not me. I was

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freaking out, So it definitely was not me, you know that.

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And he said it was like a face pressing itself

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against tent.

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Oh really, so he can see like that, he could.

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See like the outline of a face on the from

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from the inside of it. So he told me, And

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I'm like, I don't know what to tell you, but

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it was not me for sure. And I've heard different things,

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like I've heard like my friend said he did an

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eminem thing and he set out eminem's in a certain order,

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and then he said, like in the morning, like Eminem's

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were still there, but they're rearranged in different order. So

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there's definitely stuff going on. I don't know how they communicate,

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but I think that's I think that could be a

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way that they communicate. I just I have figured it out.

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Yeah, I mean, there are definitely a lot of really

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interesting experiments that people have tried to try to get

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communication going. I think that would definitely be a version

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of it. Sometimes. Man, there's one guy where he would

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leave a piece of paper in a pen out and

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then see if they would write something back, tic tac toe,

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all sorts of things. I think that was Kawani who

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did that in one of his books. But so I've

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talked to people in northern Idaho Kellogg things like that.

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You're saying northern Idaho though, is what right?

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Okay? So yeah, so we were I say northern I

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it wasn't all way up there. It was I believe

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it was between Lewiston and Moscow. So I guess there's

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a lot of action on the clear water. That's what

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they're telling me on VO f r O. When I

462
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.640
did Finding big fights a vf r O people, But they

463
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:25.039
were telling me that they get a lot of action

464
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:25.920
on the clear water.

465
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.680
That's cool, that's all. We did go up there a

466
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:38.920
couple of times, gotcha. So when you were involved with

467
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:42.240
finding Bigfoot, then was that Idaho based.

468
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:48.880
That was also Idaho based. We so we went to

469
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:54.119
we all meant Courteline, which is that's almost the top,

470
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:57.920
not quite, but it's up there. So we all met Courteline,

471
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.720
and then from Courteline we just zipped out up and down,

472
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:04.240
just went like all over the place because I had

473
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:09.519
met when Tyler called me Tyler Balance, he called me

474
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:12.519
and asked me if I wanted to be do some

475
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:17.440
stuff for the show. He met me and McAll and

476
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.480
the call for me is to an hour hour drives,

477
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:25.680
so I think he was only a few hours north

478
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:28.240
of there or so, so it was pop away from

479
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:31.079
both of us. And then we just get a little

480
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.079
night thing. He wanted to see if he could get

481
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:38.400
any activity of it. We didn't get nothing. And then

482
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:43.400
in the next month or so, that's where we met

483
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.039
up in Courtlane, and I think I was there for

484
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:50.960
four or five days something like that and did a

485
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:55.240
lot of driving and stuff like that. And I was

486
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:59.759
in the clip where they're outside of the casino. I

487
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:04.200
was in that scene. Somebody I guess saw one in

488
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:09.759
the back of the casino up there Cliff Courtlane. I

489
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:12.240
was in that scene. And then I think I was

490
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:17.720
in one other scene. But yeah, I did a lot

491
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:18.759
of driving, for sure.

492
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.039
That's cool. So you were going out with Tyler before

493
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.359
the show started filming to try to drum up activity.

494
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:30.119
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, and come to find out Tyler

495
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:36.079
was Come to find out Tyler was on that BRFRORO

496
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:44.799
versu Bfroro expedition I went on. I guess he was there,

497
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:48.440
but I didn't know Tyler at the time. Yeah he was.

498
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.319
He's at California Camp. I didn't know him at the time,

499
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:55.400
but yeah, that's where he stayed. So it was cool

500
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:58.559
to find that out and that from there I meet

501
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:03.039
Cliff and everybody in that so it was cool. Oh. Sure.

502
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.720
So you have these really cool experiences being involved with

503
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.480
a few BFR expeditions and finding Bigfoot, but you're also

504
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:14.359
going out a lot on your own. Was there ever

505
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.000
a time where you felt like maybe you were able

506
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:23.680
to get a sighting or something in close proximity outside

507
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.920
of what you saw on the first BFL expedition.

508
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.160
I did have another experience, that's the thing. I had

509
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:39.839
another encounter in the saw Tooth and I went out

510
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:43.359
with the guy that's Travis, he's in the Bigfoot Lives

511
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:48.000
in Idaho book. Doing the series of books that Becky

512
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.920
Cook wrote, and he and I did go out and

513
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.359
we went to area in the sare is called Redfish

514
00:31:55.440 --> 00:32:00.319
Lake right outside of Stanley there, and we don't finely

515
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.640
felt like we were being tracked. And it was one

516
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.640
of those things for something so big, it doesn't make

517
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:14.279
a ton of noise, but it's enough that you notice it,

518
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:17.720
and then like when you stop, it stops, and then

519
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:19.920
you keep going and then you're hearing it again and

520
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:23.400
you stop and it stops, and so it's really wild.

521
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:28.720
But we got when we were We just hiked a

522
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.920
couple of miles the first day because the next day

523
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.839
it was a really longer hike and harder for sure.

524
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.519
But the first night we just hiked a couple of

525
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:42.400
miles into a campspot campground and we saw exactly what

526
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.759
looked like a I don't know what to call it.

527
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:50.519
Some people say that's the portal, but it looked like

528
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:55.200
a shining light in the sky and it was only

529
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:59.400
maybe forty feet above our heads. And I was like,

530
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:01.680
do you see that? And he goes, yeah, I see it.

531
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.319
I see it. And I'm like, I go, holy crap,

532
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.920
what the heck is that? And he's I don't know,

533
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.640
and I'm like, I don't know either, and you know

534
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.400
that thing. But then all of a sudden, that ball

535
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:20.920
slowly drops into the trees and then just disappears, and

536
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.920
I bet with in five minutes you see this figure

537
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:31.519
pop out. It was just on the perimeter, just on

538
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:34.799
the edge of the trees, right at the edge of

539
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:39.759
the campsite. You see this figure, two legs pop out

540
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.839
of it goes from one side of the trees to

541
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.759
the other, and he flashed green eyes. And if you've

542
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:50.319
ever seen Patterson give one film, there was the form

543
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:56.720
was perfect for that film. Arms way and everything flash

544
00:33:56.799 --> 00:34:02.440
green eyes at us and thinking, whoa what is that?

545
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:05.920
And the thing it was taller than the first one

546
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.920
I saw, slightly hunched back. I could see that a

547
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:14.559
conical head and it has a hunched one of walks

548
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.119
and then it just when a flash green eyes. It

549
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:21.639
just kept walking and it just kept cruising. And that

550
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.000
was the last we saw it, and then we were

551
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.840
up there. When we went up to the lake second night,

552
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:33.079
I got a whoop and then I asked Travis, he goes, no,

553
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:35.800
I didn't hear nothing, and I'm like, what the heck,

554
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.719
you didn't hear that because our tents were right together.

555
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:41.760
So I'm like, he goes, no, I didn't hear anything,

556
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.280
So I'm like, Okay, that's weird. I know I heard

557
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.559
something right after getting into my tent and getting ready

558
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:54.119
to go to bed and stuff, and he was and

559
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.599
that was all I heard. After that, I think I

560
00:34:56.639 --> 00:35:00.760
fell asleep and I didn't hear anymore and that was

561
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:01.800
it for experience.

562
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.760
Yeah, wow, that's incredible. What year was that? Would you think.

563
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.039
That was? So that was.

564
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.440
I'm trying to think of what year that was, how

565
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:24.920
to be twenty seventeen, I believe I was after that

566
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:27.360
was after my finding Bigfoot stuff.

567
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:34.719
I think it was seventeen or eighteen. But yeah, I

568
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.320
was always trying to do something every summer where I'd

569
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.880
go out with somebody or do something or or do

570
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:45.079
you like, campout or whatever. So that was the one

571
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.159
I did with him, and yeah, we had that stuff

572
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:53.039
happened and kind of interesting. That same area, there'd been

573
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:57.239
a guy that had disappeared. This guy was by himself

574
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:02.760
though he was solo, and he had disappeared on a

575
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:07.880
hike and I've talked to his mom on the internet,

576
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.920
emailed their back and forth because they'd did a book

577
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:13.480
on it. He wasn't from here, but he was. It's

578
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.440
that place is like a resort area, like a summer

579
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.880
resort where people come in from everywhere and they worked

580
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.079
there for the summer and then they do their thing

581
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:23.840
and then they go back to where they came from.

582
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:27.199
And this guy was from out of state, and I

583
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.320
think he was in an area called Graham Mogul. I

584
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:33.039
think that's where he got. I think that's where they

585
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:38.360
were searching. And lo and behold, they had searched this area.

586
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:43.000
Like the guy that was heading the search and stuff

587
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:47.159
doing the search and rescue for it, he said they

588
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.880
had searched a certain area like three or four times

589
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:54.079
and they came back and his stuff, some of his

590
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.960
stuff was like laid out on the trail, almost like

591
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:58.159
it was meant to be found.

592
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:04.119
Oh wow, yeah, yeah, it's it's one of those yeah.

593
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.000
Yeah. So it's one of those where somebody actually disappeared

594
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.880
and they could find him. And that was before that

595
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.440
was like I think that was about ten years before

596
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.519
I did that did that hike. That's why I wanted

597
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:19.800
to go to that area. I was like, Okay, we

598
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:21.599
need to see if we can get over there and

599
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:25.559
figure out what's going on. Okay, after talking to his mom,

600
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:26.519
it looks like.

601
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:30.159
Grand Mogul is a mountain peak that's just outside a

602
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:37.639
red Fish lake. Okay, yeah, gotcha. Interesting. Wow, that is

603
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.679
quite quite the encounter you guys had. So was it

604
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:43.039
around dusk or what time of day was it that

605
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:43.840
you had to happen?

606
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:52.599
Ours was right around It was right around dusk. It was.

607
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:56.000
It was light enough to where I could see color

608
00:37:56.159 --> 00:38:00.360
in the fur and see what color it was. But

609
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.800
it was to the point where it was starting to

610
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:07.960
get dark. But I could see clearly sees a light

611
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:12.320
brown color on the fur down to where like it

612
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:16.440
was almost blonde on some of his leg. It was. Yeah,

613
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:21.320
I would say it was dark. The sun wasn't quite

614
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:23.599
behind the mountain, but it was close.

615
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.920
Sure. The next day we were able to find any tracks.

616
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.280
Did you look around over by where it was?

617
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:33.119
We? Yeah, we tried to look around, and we tried

618
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:36.920
to see if we could see anything. Of course, there

619
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:39.840
couldn't find anything, couldn't see anything. It would have been

620
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.760
walking grass, but at least you would think you'd see something,

621
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.440
something where it was pressed down or something like that.

622
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:50.840
But the way the thing moves is so stealth. It's

623
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:54.719
almost like I've heard different stories on how it moves. Oh, sure,

624
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:57.960
I've heard Yeah, I've heard story where like it was

625
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.199
even keeping up with a car and a car it's

626
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.480
going fifty miles an hour. Oh Michae, Oh my god, Yeah,

627
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:05.800
I've heard that before.

628
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.679
So you mentioned that you experienced the hum out and

629
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:14.199
bumping lake. Do you think you've ever experienced anything that

630
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:20.840
comes close to infrasound when you've been out in these areas.

631
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:25.519
That's what crossed my mind, is was I infant sound

632
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:30.599
or was it something else? Since not everybody could hear

633
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.000
it and I could also feel it too, I've never

634
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.559
experienced anything like that anywhere else that I've ever been,

635
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.679
going to the mountains a lot and being a skier

636
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:48.280
and never had that anywhere else ever been too, So yeah,

637
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:50.719
I can't put my finger on what it would have

638
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:55.880
been other than I clearly be felt. It's just funny because.

639
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:02.440
When I originally and I had the experience of that

640
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.639
hum and stuff, I was just like, I dismissed it,

641
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.639
And then of course Kevin was like, is anyone else

642
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:11.920
experience a home.

643
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:16.800
Or feeling anything? And I'm like, no freaking way, So

644
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:21.639
I'm not crazy. Somebody else's experiencing it too, And then

645
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.119
come to find out there was a few of us

646
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.119
that were having that because I thought I was going crazy.

647
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.559
I'm like, what's going on here? I'm thinking I'm imagining

648
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.760
it like I was dismissing it.

649
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:41.800
Wow, was there ever a time where you were almost

650
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.480
it was like they wanted you to leave an area

651
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:48.400
when you're in on a let's say, research trip, or

652
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:51.559
there was some any kind of aggressive interactions.

653
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.000
Originally, when I got into this, I wasn't really afraid

654
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:59.559
of going out alone and things like that. It was

655
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:05.840
only later probably watched too much. It's seen four one

656
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.639
one stuff I don't know, but I don't go out

657
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:13.320
alone at all anymore. But yeah, I've never had like

658
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:17.159
bluff charge, never had any of that stuff, never had

659
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.960
rocks thrown at me. That's pretty I would say that's

660
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.719
pretty aggressive behavior if you ask me if you're getting

661
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:28.440
rocks thrown at yet, But I've never had an yet stuff,

662
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:33.719
so i'd have to say no. The only thing I

663
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.800
know is like when we saw green Eyes, I've been

664
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.920
told they said that means stay away or that means

665
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:45.360
danger from what I was told, yeah, that's somebody was

666
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.039
telling me. So I'm like, yeah, I wasn't there trying

667
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:53.159
to approach it. Definitely was quite the deal. It's quite

668
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:54.000
the experience.

669
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.840
Yeah, Rob is a thing you're still you're still doing

670
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.360
today or have you backed off a little bit from

671
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:00.920
going out?

672
00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:07.519
I still go out. I haven't. I didn't go out

673
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:11.840
really this summer. I went to Eugene and I was

674
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:16.079
hoping to have I wanted to do more stuff. I

675
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:22.199
did go to Walla with some friends and had a

676
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:26.039
guy interview me because he's got a podcast and he's

677
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:29.679
got a lot of followers, so he did interview me

678
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:33.599
for the McCall one. In a group of us meant

679
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:39.679
Walla for like Paul Freeman, the area where Paul Freeman

680
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.480
did some casts singer. He had a lot of sightings

681
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.280
stuff in that area. He's forest Ranger. I don't know

682
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:49.239
if you know him, but yeah, that was the first

683
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:52.039
time I'd been to that area. So that was cool

684
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:52.519
to see that.

685
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:54.880
Do you remember what podcast that was?

686
00:42:54.920 --> 00:43:01.800
For? Jonathan's He's got a name he uses like a

687
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:07.280
handle or whatever, like sas sas q u I, which

688
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:11.920
isn't his real last Name's Jonathan. Yeah, we're easily. Yeah,

689
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.039
that's what it is, buddies easily Yeah.

690
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:17.000
Yeah, Okay, that's cool.

691
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.199
Yeah yeah, he's cool. Yeah, it's cool. I go to

692
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.719
YouTube channel and he goes out and does a lot

693
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.039
of stuff with us. It's kind of thing.

694
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:31.480
Editors note Jonathan Easley's YouTube channel is Western Bigfoot Exploration

695
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.880
and everyone listening to this should be subscribed to it.

696
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:40.840
It is incredible. Back to the show, So were you

697
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:44.079
also going out in Eugene then and looking around places

698
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:44.480
out there?

699
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:48.880
I want? I wanted to Eugene, I didn't. I didn't.

700
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:53.440
There's a girl on my page, Michelle that I guess

701
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:57.079
she's got an active area, and I was hoping her

702
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.360
and I could her and I could meet, but it

703
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.920
didn't pan out. So I wonder if that was because

704
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:04.039
they got a spot over there.

705
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:07.199
I wonder if that's home. Yeah, we're Sweet Home.

706
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.679
Yeah from Sweet Home. Yeah. So I was hoping her

707
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:15.320
and I could do something together. And I'm also friends

708
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:18.320
with Jeff. I don't know if you know if Jeff.

709
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:21.480
Ron Yeah, Jeff, Yeah, absolutely.

710
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:25.199
Jeff's really cool guy. He's one in the Flusher beauty.

711
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:27.840
YEP and he knows all about the Oregon Big for Highway,

712
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.079
and there's so many places near Eugene, Like I go

713
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:33.559
to east of Eugene when I go out there, I

714
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.400
go to oak Ridge and that area, and it's just

715
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:40.960
such a heavily active area. It is wild when you

716
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.920
get out in the woods out there, it's interesting stuff.

717
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.880
But yeah, hopefully you get out there and you're able

718
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:49.519
to go to some of those places with those guys.

719
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.239
Sometimes it's cool out there.

720
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:58.679
But yeah, definitely, Yeah, it's great. It's great. It's it's

721
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:01.519
has a lot of camaraderie. I like that, yeah too,

722
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:03.679
And then it's a good way to connect and it's

723
00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:05.960
made a lot of good friends that way. I still

724
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.639
talk Cliff once in a while, all that kind of stuff.

725
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.960
Rob, thank you so much for sharing some of your

726
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:13.760
encounters from over the years. I really appreciate it. And

727
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.960
do you mind talking for a few minutes about your

728
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:20.800
your Facebook group you have Northwest Bigfoot and if there's

729
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.280
anything okay I would want listeners to know like that.

730
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.360
Yeah, so in northwespect for I know people listen to

731
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.360
your podcast. So that's what got me interested in your

732
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:37.800
podcast is I'm like, holy cow, McCall, what And then yeah,

733
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:41.519
I was like, oh, that's awesome. And McCall has a

734
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:46.400
lot of history of activity, like even going back to

735
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:49.440
the sixties. Oh wow, really stuff that I even know. Yeah,

736
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:52.559
stuff that I didn't even know about, but a lot

737
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:57.119
of activity. Very Cascade has got some activity too, which

738
00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:01.360
is a little bit south of there. And yeah, so

739
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:05.199
that's what got me interested in it. And it's nice

740
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.559
to meet more people that might want to go out

741
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.360
and if they could take me to the area where

742
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.239
they had their experience or that kind of thing, I

743
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:16.440
would love it. That was the whole reason for my page.

744
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:18.880
Absolutely. Yeah, so I.

745
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:21.519
Will getting groups together and things like that.

746
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.559
It is all about people connecting. And I'll put the

747
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:28.239
link for Northwest Bigfoot in the description so people can

748
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:31.679
check it out if they are interested. But okay, Rob,

749
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.360
thank you so much for sharing more with that my

750
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:38.719
listeners about Idaho and also Bumping Lake. And I appreciate

751
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:41.519
you coming on the show today.

752
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:46.599
Yeah, thanks, Jaron, Mine appreciate it.

753
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.039
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

754
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.280
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

755
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:56.039
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

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seen something that no one can explain or if you're

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a national park raining a forestry worker who's been told

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to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

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something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

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stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

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if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

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764
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If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

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766
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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

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769
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:43.480
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

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or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

772
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anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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