Oct. 25, 2025

The North Shore Sasquatch | Massachusetts

The North Shore Sasquatch | Massachusetts
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Season 1

What happens when a retired Coast Guard veteran skips a Florida boat show and instead takes a quiet drive through the wetlands north of Boston? In this intense and chilling episode, we sit down with Steve, a lifelong New Englander whose routine trip for dumplings turned into a life-altering encounter. He describes seeing an enormous black figure — 8 to 9 feet tall, gliding across a rutted dirt road in broad daylight — just three miles from his home. We also hear from Judy in Washington, whose 14-foot tall Bigfoot beat its chest in a sign of peace. Then we cross into the Canadian Rockies with a fog-filled sighting in Whistler, and back to Spencerport, New York where a deep growl echoed through the woods. These are firsthand encounters filled with emotion, shock, and awe — each one a thread in the growing tapestry of Sasquatch experiences. From Massachusetts to Washington to B.C. to New York — these are the stories of people who know what they saw.

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. All I pick for the Society.

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You've get the privilege of talking to Steve today. Steve

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is a listener who reached out for north of Boston, Massachusetts,

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which I'm excited to hear what he's experienced. We don't

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get a lot of I guess you can maybe consider

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that the North Shore area on the show, so as

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privileged to have him on. But Steve, how are you

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doing today, sir?

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I'm doing fine? How are you?

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Jeremiah doing great? Always a great afternoon when I'm able

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to talk to people from all over the US about

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what they've experienced. But Steve I want to make sure

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you have the time to share your experiences today, so

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you know, feel free to take us back to when

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you first started experiencing things and what it is that

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you experienced.

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Surely no problem.

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First of all, I'd like to say that in my mind,

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I shouldn't have ever seen this thing, and I don't think.

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I don't think that I don't know this, So I

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don't want to say there's some kind of plan or anything.

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But all I'm saying is I had I had no

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thought about ever seeing one. To kind of explain my reason,

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and I need to take you back to nineteen sixty

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nine and nineteen seventy, I grew up in Cambridge, and

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in Cambridge there are two big universities, this Harvard University

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and this MIT, and both these universities, I think that

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the Father's so called of Cambridge kind of you know,

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trying to do They reached out to these universities to

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try to get him to do certain things. I'm sure

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that there's some kind of some kind of deal they have. Anyways,

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in sixty nine, I was part of this program called Challenge,

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and what they did was one of the things they

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did was they gave us the opportunity because a lot

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of Cambridge kids to stay in a lodge, a ski

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lodge up in Jackson, New Hampshire, for like two weeks

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and it was really a great place to stay and

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to be at it was it was so good. In fact,

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next year, in nineteen seventy, I got the opportunity to

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be a junior counselor up there for the whole summer

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and it was the greatest experience ever, especially for a

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city kid. If I could kind of draw a picture

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of this place, it was a like a wooden hull

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that was on the big side, with a lot of rooms,

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like they had common rooms on the first floor and

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rooms that you stay in on the second floor. And

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it was a front of the house and it was

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the back of the house. So this place was had

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a mountain in the back, probably went up about maybe

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a thousand feet or so, and then in the front

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there was the road I believe at that time it was.

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It was a dead end road.

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It didn't really go all the way through I think

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it does today, but across the street was some bushes

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and on the other side of the bushes was the stream,

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and it was it was just really a wonderful place

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to be, and one of the counselors told me that

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on the other side of the stream they were the

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beaver Lakes and the Beaver Dam, and you know.

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For a city kid, I've never seen that.

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And for the first time in my life, I got

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the chance to stand on a beaver hutch. But getting

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back to a story about Bigfoot. As good as the

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place was, there was one thing out the place that

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kind of creeped me out, and that was the rear

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of the house. There was a carriage house. And the

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carriage house had like a like a standard opening for

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a door, maybe it was like ten feet wide and

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maybe fifteen feet tall, and they had like a sixty

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watt bulb hanging from the inside the middle of the

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inside that you hit a switch for to turn on.

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And it was creepy in the daytime to me. And

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what we used to do was throw the trash in

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there and take it to the dump like maybe twice

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a week. So one day, while I was at the

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other house there, I just got this field and I

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went outside and I seen these kids, some of the campers,

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some of the younger campers, going into the woodline on

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the back of the house where the mountain was. So

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I kind of went half through. I caught up to

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him and said, hey, what are you kids doing? He said,

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we wanted to climb the mountain. I said, all right.

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I mean it was the middle of the day. We

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weren't doing anything that day, so I said, let's let's go.

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I'm not a great woodsman, and it's not like I

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can navigate like crazy, but it's like scup the mountain

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and down the mountain. It really you really couldn't get lost.

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So we started up and we were on a aa what.

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Do you call it?

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What those animal trails and we want to throw the

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way up and it was this ravine and it was

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like about eighty feet wide and about maybe one hundred

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feet deep, maybe one hundred and twenty feet deep, and

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it was almost straight up and down. So we went

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to we went to the left to try to see

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it there's an end to it. And what we what

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we ended up seeing was there was this cave across

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on the on the other side of the ravine. And

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so this is like its sisuous forest, meaning that there's

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there's leaves that drop all over the place every fall,

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and you can see on the side of the wall

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of the of the of the ravine that there were

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leaves all over the place. And when we saw this cave,

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it had these weird slabs. The slabs were about as

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big as a as a hood of like a four

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f one fifty, and they were kind of kind of

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molds together with the with the big slab of rock

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on top of it that was a little bit bigger,

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and it was like way out of place. It was

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kind of it kind of made me a little nervous

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because it just didn't look right.

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It just didn't look right. And I think one of

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the things.

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That that I thought about later was that in front

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of that cave there was like about a seven by

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five foot platform and there was not one leaf, not

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one leaf on that platform whatsoever. But you look up

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down the ravine there was leaves everywhere. So at that

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time we didn't have like video cameras or telephone cameras.

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And I suggested to the caves that maybe we had

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to go back, and not one of them objected.

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They were ready to go.

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I think maybe we were all feeling a little weirded

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by this, and it wouldn't strike me till years later

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after the event of the internet that maybe the creepiness

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of the of the carriage house and the fact that

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there was a cave, or maybe they were more caves.

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I don't know, I could we didn't go that far,

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and we certainly couldn't see the sign we were on

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whether there was any kind of that kind of cave there.

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And I mean the cave was only about five was

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about five foot high and maybe about four foot wide,

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but you couldn't see in it because we were above

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it a little bit and the slab kind of stuck out,

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and it's just it was. It was just kind of

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strange to me. I always wanted to always wanted to

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write the people that own that property now and ask

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if they've ever seen it or took a page of

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it or anything. But anyway, that's that's That's one thing.

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There was another incident where we were were not an incident,

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but a happenstance where we were taking the kids on

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a hike through the woods and I cannot remember where

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we were. We different in the White Mountains, somewhere. We

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came through the woods to this number road, I guess,

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and we decided to take a break on the side

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that we came out of were the woods.

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But on the other side of the road was.

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This clar cut area that had all these young trees

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in it and you couldn't really see past. I said,

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you couldn't see about fifteen feet in. It was just,

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you know, there's so many trees you couldn't see fast.

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So I was always the last in line to make

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sure that we didn't lose anybody.

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And the guy head in the hiding the.

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He walked the trip, was up in front, so we

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got up there into the road. He decided let's take

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a break, So you know, I'm good with that. I

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was at the he was up the front, and I

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was at the back, and I got this.

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I got this.

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Really weird feeling. And I'm basing down the road towards

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him and I'm looking around. So I left to my right,

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and I got this. When I looked at a seven

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o'clock position, I got this really bad feeling. It was

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like it was it was very strange. I've never felt

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anything like that since I've had I've had other feelings

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where you know, I was uncomfortable, but nothing like that.

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It was like it was a throbbing from the top

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of my head to.

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The to the to the tail of my spinal cord,

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and I'd turned around. I'd look at him, and then

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i'd look back. At eight o'clock it would get a

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little kinky. At seven o'clock, I'd get that kind of

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rob and feeling, and then I'd do the same thing

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in the other direction. I must have done it two

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or three times because when I when I looked up

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at him, he's looking staring at me and he's going,

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what Still, He's trying to do it so the kids

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won't see it, and I just go, I don't know,

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kind of back to him, and I'd do it again.

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A couple of times. He says, all right, let's let's

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let's go kids, let's let's move on that. We we

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spent like about five minutes there, and as soon as

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I got about fifty feet away, I felt a lot

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better and I and I never forgot that, and I

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always thought that was strange. I had no explanation for

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it and no reasoning for it. So you know, life

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goes on. I did some time in the coast Guard

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and got mad and about eighty five, and then about

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ninety three, where we were living in Cambridge Under in

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the house that my brother and mother had purchase while

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I was away in the Coast Guard, and you know,

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ninety three, we decided to buy our own house and move.

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So we ended up moving north of Boston, and it's

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the place we live is a lovely town. And as

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I want to do, I love to explore. I love

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to go to different places and check out all the

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different roads and you know, trying to learn the neighborhood.

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And so I found this road that was kind.

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Of obscure, and every now and then they'd close it

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because of the when it rained, it flooded, it went

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from asphalt to like a like a dirt road, and

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then it would, you know, go back to asphalt at

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some point. And you can tell that the road was

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barely ever use because it was like it was totally disrespected.

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And by what I mean by that is that people

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would throw wash machines out at it, you know, on

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the side of the.

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Road, and I've seen an oven up there.

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And there was also a place with one of those

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those gates that the you know, the park rangers installed,

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is the metal pipe that goes across with the little

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ladies that supports it swings back and forth. So after

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about the third time I went through there, I decided

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to park and go take a look at the place.

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So I park and I get out and start walking

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through the woods. And then the woods clear out because

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it's it's it leads into a wetland, and so I

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passed this.

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I passed this pond.

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The pond's kind of like the ponds is kind of

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like fifty feet across and about maybe eighty foot long,

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and it's just had a scrub, you know, a scrub

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around it. And as I was walking to the I

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got to the side of the pond, I looked down

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and I see shotgun shelves. I see like about four

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I don't know. I think they were maybe a double lot.

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I'm not sure what they were there. I think they

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were like red red shotgun shells. I picked one up

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and take a look at it, and then I'm thinking

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to myself, geez, I don't want to be around here.

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People are shooting guns off, and you know, I don't

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know at that time, I don't know nothing about not

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in season or anything like that, but I know I

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didn't it kind of started looking around and I got

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a feeling like, yeah, I don't want to be there.

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I shouldn't be in this place, so I just left.

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And it turns out that when I actually saw a bigfoot,

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it was part of that wetland area.

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So e that as it's may as it may.

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In the twenty twenty three, I retired from the job

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I had, and I had a few dollars in the bank,

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and I had all kinds of plans about me me

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doing one thing or another, and one of the things

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I wanted to do was I wanted to go to

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the Fort Lauderdale boat show Don and Flora. So I

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was thinking about it all summer, and it's kind of

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looking at the money I had in the bank.

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You know, I'm not taking.

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Into consideration of my retirement, which I didn't get into yet,

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but you know, it's kind of going through that money

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faster than I wanted to because I was trying to

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get used to being retired and it's kind of a

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it's kind of a transition to do that. So I

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just I was hammeling haunt about it. I was getting

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some dinner work done during the summer, and the dentists

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wanted to do the finish off the job on the

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twenty fourth of October and the twenty fourth of October.

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It was when I wanted to kind of fly down

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and be at the Fort Lauderdale boat show.

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So after thinking about it, thinking about it, I said.

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Screw it, I can always do it next year and

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related to doing the dinner procedure. So October twenty fourth,

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the day of the dinner procedure, I had it at

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nine o'clock. That was done by ten. I went home

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and took a couple of talent all and just kind

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of sat there waiting for the pain, and it never

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really came that bad. So about one thirty in the afternoon,

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I was getting a little hungry, and I decided to

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take one of the various ways to the nearest town

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to my favorite, the Chinese food place, and get some

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fried dumplings. I figured that would be nice and soft

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and the small and I could eat those.

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So I get in the truck and this is this

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is this is where it.

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Gets kind of strange and it's high for me to

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believe thinking about it. I get in the truck and

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I decide to listen to an episode from a different

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show actually of a big Foot. So I turned that

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on and I really wanted to here it just to

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keep my mind, I'm thinking about my tooth and the

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fact that it might start aching like crazy. So I

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got in the truck, went down this nice road I

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like to go down. It's kind of semi populated. I mean,

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you never lose sight of a house when you're driving

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down it, but it's still It's got a lot of woods,

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and there's a lot of trees and the wetlands here

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and there. And at one point I take it right

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to head towards the head towards the highway, and this

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area is like I feel Georgetown, Groveland, West Newbury newbury

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Port area north of Boston. So I'm driving down the

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road and where the wetland there's a wetland, that's that

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you pass through. And where the wetland is the road

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is dirt because every now and then, the road, you know,

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gets a little jerky from the wetlands beside it. So

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in this particular day, the road was horrid.

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I mean it was.

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It was a full full of potholes, and I must

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have been going about between three and five miles an

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hour to get through the damn thing. So at the

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at the very end, I'm just about stopped trying to

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get through a couple of potholes, and on the left

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side of the road, I see this truck pulling some

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lawn cutting equipment coming down and I'm thinking, he's going, man,

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he's gonna get this truck in his equipment.

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Beat the hell.

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And then further up there's this person coming down the

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driveway on a bike, and so I'm passing, I'm passing this.

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I'm starting to pass this truck hallowing the equipment, and

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I'm looking at the truck as it looked like a

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truck buy once owned it was beat the hell like

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a truck I want so right before I sold it.

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And all of a sudden, I start having this micro

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conversation with myself, saying in the conversation sounds like this

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in my head, Hey, stupid, you just saw a kid

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or a guy up on the right side of the

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road in a hoodie, dressed in black, gliding down a driveway.

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But you've you've traveled this road for thirty years and

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you know, well, there ain't no driveway there. So I

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look up to the look back up the road and

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I see this big, this big black kind of of

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a person. I still think it's on a bike because

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it turned real quick and started heading back into the woods.

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So it accelerated like it was an instant acceleration, and

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I thinking, well, you must be on an eat bike.

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And then I saw the leg step and then a

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second step, and I was like, no, no, you know

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you can't be seeing this. You got a freaking big

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foot show on that you've lost track of because you

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were of the potholes, and you're seeing that, you're seeing

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a big foot.

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Na that can't be.

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I'm looking at this thing, and I got a camera

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on my phone sitting on the console, and I say

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to myself, while I can reach for my camera and

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probably miss everything trying to get the thing on, or

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I could just watch and observe and and take everything

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in that I can see. And this thing starts running.

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Now it's running with the arms down by its side.

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It's it's it's a strange kind of run. It's just

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kind of I don't know, it's everything on it was smooth.

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The reason why I thought it was a kid on

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the bike because when it came down there was a

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slight slight incline in the woods. When they came down

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the road, it looked like it was gliding. And when

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it started back up again. It had the same kind

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of motion. And the first thing that trumpy was, I

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can't see the head. Where's the head? And the shoulders

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on this thing must have been as big as a basketball,

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and there was it does something. It does something weird

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with the sunlight. And I couldn't actually make out the alms,

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but they weren't swinging their way from the body.

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It was black. It was fast, and.

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It didn't appear to it didn't appear to be going

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as as fast as it could go.

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It was just running straight up and down.

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And one of the things I said to myself was look,

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notice everything, Notice everything. And I couldn't see the head,

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and I'm thinking to myself, where's the head?

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So finally I looked.

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Just below the shoulder, I can see like an eye ridge,

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and below that I could see the nose, and below

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that I can see the I can see.

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The mouth or of the lips or something.

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And people say that they have a sometimes they have

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a head the sides of a bucket.

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That's kind of what I was looking at.

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This thing was the face was very large, and the

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damn thing was about I would say it was about

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eight to nine feet tall, especially revisiting that spot and

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looking at it, it was it was just amazing to

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see and it was. It must have ran about oh

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sixty feet and I know from pull visits to the

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place that there's a rock maybe about four feet high,

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and it cleared the rock like it was nothing. There's

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a slight hump up in the air and then back

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down again and it went into the trees, did a

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slight left turn, and it was gone. And I couldn't

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I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe what I was saying.

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So of all days, the day that I thought I

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might be going down to Fort Lauderdale, I was kind

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of bumed about missing that trip. But I see this thing,

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I just I just couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it.

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And I when I first saw this thing, I'll try

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to give a standard kind of distance if there's any

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kind of standing between telephone poles, and there were no

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telephone poles in that road, I would say that it

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was like about two telephone poles away when I first

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saw it, and I was accelerating toward it because I

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was going about maybe ten miles an hour and speed,

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not because I was on the asphalt again, and I

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think I probably got as close as maybe a telephone

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poll length and a half to it, and I was

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just I couldn't I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it.

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I was I went on to I went onto the

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Newberry Port and got my food. And all the time

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I'm waiting for my food, I'm checking out this map,

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checking out the map of my truck. I got a

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nice big map heier on it, and I'm looking at

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the streets around that place. And I get my food,

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I'm eating. I couldn't really concentrate on eating. I said,

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I got to go back. And what I did was

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I went to the to the next street over in

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the direction it was heading, because I kind of wanted

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to see it again and I wanted to see it

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for my truck, and I didn't want to get out and.

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See it because I don't know how to describe it.

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Anyways, I went to that to the to the next

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street over, and it turns out that it also had

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a at a certain point, certain section, it also had

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a one of those forestry gates blocking the road. And

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I think that the road that road actually had flooded

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every now and then I just ended up closing it.

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And the weird thing about the two weird things about

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I mean, other than seeing that bigfoot, there was a

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house at the end of that road, the one that

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was locked off, that was for sale, and it was

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like the only house up at the very end, and

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then the house on the street were actually seeing the thing.

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That house was for sale, and I'm wondering to myself

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if if they if they have some kind of habituation

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and they're thinking about getting out of there, because obviously

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there's a big foot in the area. Because I just

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saw one, and you know, I decided just to go home,

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and I'm home thinking about it, thinking about it and

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thinking about it, and then about just before it got back,

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about three thirty, because this was in October, I decided

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to go back to where I saw it and see

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if I can take a picture any kind of any

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kind of footprints. But you know, there was so many

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leaves around, and I ain't no track. I don't know

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what I'm looking for. I'm just trying to see if

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I can find anything in the mon of death that

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looked like a footprint, and you know, I couldn't. I

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couldn't find anything up on as on that road where

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I saw the bigfoot, I started over to the right

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and up to the left there was an incline up

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to a house that sat up there, maybe about four

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hundred feet away, and I can hear some kind of

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soire going on up there, and just I don't know,

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it just kind of made me think, was it just

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trying to get through before something got roll on the

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other side. I mean, I have no idea, none whatsoever.

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And I've always and what's what's strange to me is

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I've always, like I said, I've lived lived up here

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for like thirty plus years, and I've always thought to myself,

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if I ever see a bigfoot, that ever happens, it's

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going to happen in this area with a with the

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swamp was I didn't a swamp or wetland, whatever you

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want to call it.

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I never expected it to happen like just up the road.

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And you know, I don't I know nothing about nothing

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when it comes to being a woodsman. But the fact

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that I kind of kind of felt like that was

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the place kind of freaked me out too when I

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was thinking about it. It's just it's just something that

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very strange that had happened. And so the year after

467
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I seen that thing, Man, I'm freaked out. As a

468
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:11.519
matter of fact, two weeks after I had seen it,

469
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.400
I wouldn't go outside. I would go outside at night

470
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:18.640
once I was running to my truck, I'll run it

471
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.599
back in because I was. Man, I was freaked out.

472
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:24.759
And my house is surrounded by by a wooded area,

473
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:27.400
especially in the back. I got about eighty yards of

474
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:29.480
woods until it hits the next house on the up

475
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.519
next street. And it took me a couple of weeks

476
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:34.720
to take to myself. Look, you've been living here for

477
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.319
thirty years. Nothing's ever happened. You never heard of anything

478
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:40.480
ever happen. The thing obviously wanted nothing to do with you,

479
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.599
because it took off, and it took off fast. As

480
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:47.920
matter of fact, that it ran so fast that you know,

481
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.559
I'm a gun owner, and you know I go to

482
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:53.079
the ranch every now and then. I think that I

483
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:57.119
would have to expand about twelve or fifteen clips to

484
00:27:57.279 --> 00:27:59.599
get a deed and actually hit something like that, which

485
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:01.200
I would would do because I think it would just

486
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:03.680
piss it off and it would turn around and beat me,

487
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:09.799
beat me to death. Anyways, it was it was awesome

488
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:14.200
and frightening at the same time. So so, like I said,

489
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.160
I spent the next year trying to convince myself that

490
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.119
was that it was all right to go into the

491
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:23.880
woods again. And I would go to I mean, I

492
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:27.640
knew the I knew the area that it was that,

493
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.759
and I knew what I knew was how to access

494
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:36.039
it from different different points, uh different places on different

495
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.359
streets that surrounded it. And I would go from one

496
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:43.440
by one and and think about think about going into

497
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:43.839
the woods.

498
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:44.960
I actually do it.

499
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.920
I tried it one time on that on that road

500
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:51.559
that I originally found.

501
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:54.319
When I first moved up there.

502
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:57.119
And it turns out that road now is it's blocked

503
00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:00.920
off and closed off. But the but the place where

504
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:04.880
the ranges and put the parking lot or parking place

505
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:09.079
was still open. So I pulled in there one day.

506
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.359
I got out of the truck and try to try

507
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:13.480
to walk. I think I walked like about one hundred feet,

508
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:15.039
and I said, I can't do it. I can't do it.

509
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.480
I got back in the truck. Another day, I returned

510
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:22.440
to there and I just backed in. As soon as

511
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.039
I shut the truck off, I heard a tree or

512
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:31.400
a big branch or something fall fall behind me and

513
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:33.319
I turned the truck back on. I said, nope, I

514
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.640
ain't going to do it today. Ain't gonna happen. And

515
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.920
it just I'm still working on trying to get into

516
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.039
the woods. I've done better. Actually, on a year after

517
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.759
I saw the thing, I went back to where I

518
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:48.640
saw it. I got out of the truck and I

519
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.119
walked around the area, probably about maybe.

520
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:53.160
Three hundred feet in.

521
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.480
I didn't to go all the way, just kind of

522
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:58.799
took a good look and there was some decent paths

523
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.240
that at some point and I'm going to attempt to

524
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.400
kind of walk maybe in October September.

525
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:04.799
It seemed.

526
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.559
It seems to me that October and September. I think

527
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:13.119
these things either either they live in this area or

528
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:19.200
they're moving through the area and migrating, because you know,

529
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.000
you get to figure there's a lot of farms around here.

530
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.039
As a matter of fact, I lived down the street

531
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:27.000
from a dairy farm. There's a lot of farms around here.

532
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:33.519
They collecting their crops in September time October. I'm sure

533
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.960
they're storing them different places and doing whatever they do.

534
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:40.960
Maybe it is a high time for them to feed

535
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.160
I don't know, Like I said, I didn't know. I

536
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:47.400
didn't know why I would suspect that I would see

537
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.079
at bigfoot in the area that I saw it. And

538
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.920
it only took me thirty years to run into the

539
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:57.440
dagon thing. But you know, nonetheless I did. Let's see

540
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:03.960
what else? Yeah, So, like about after the winter a

541
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:09.680
year after the next October October twenty fourth to twenty

542
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:16.240
four that winter, and a spring about a hundred feet

543
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:21.799
away from where I saw a bigfoot. I'm going down

544
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.160
the road and I see a tree, a pine tree

545
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.880
lodged into some hordwood tree, and it's like pointing into

546
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:35.319
the woods and I see it. I must have been

547
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:38.920
on past it for like about two months, and I

548
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:40.920
always stared at it. I figured, you know what, I'm

549
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.279
going to get out. I'm going to take some pictures

550
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:45.440
of it. I'm going to get a measure of it.

551
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:49.079
I'm going to make sure that it wasn't cut by

552
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:53.599
somebody in place there. And I had a good look

553
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.359
at it. I didn't see any kind of greasy hantlets,

554
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.359
prince hindred or anything. But of course it's been already

555
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:03.519
lodged for about three months by then.

556
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:05.640
I sent you. I sent you some pictures of it.

557
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:07.960
Cheremiah you to take a look at.

558
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.960
And it's about I'm about five foot eleven and a

559
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:17.079
half and it's about maybe at the level of where

560
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.920
my head is, and it's not jammed in the tree.

561
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.880
It's just kind of placed there, kind of balancing.

562
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:25.720
And I talked to a.

563
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.279
Guy who who knows a little bit about the Bigfoot,

564
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:32.440
and he says that sometimes they do that, and they

565
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:35.720
point it towards water. And it's sure enough, it's pointed

566
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.440
towards water. As a matter of fact, with the trees.

567
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.839
When you're going down that dirt road, you can see

568
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:47.240
that that part of the forest where I had seen

569
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:52.319
the Bigfoot further up, and it looked like it's pointing

570
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:54.000
right to where the trees kind of.

571
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:57.599
And then go in and the water kind of.

572
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.599
Passes behind and and and goes out of sight.

573
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:04.519
It's like this point I.

574
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:08.400
Right at that that that that curve, and I know,

575
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.079
one day when I get the pazoots to take a

576
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:16.440
walk back there, I might do that. So there's one

577
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:21.640
more thing of highest rangeness I feel that happened. And

578
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:26.000
it happened like about two weeks ago. Two weeks ago

579
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:31.480
on a Saturday night, I was in the house and

580
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:34.839
I was I was up at both whoever one in

581
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:39.240
the morning, and I decided to go to bed. Let

582
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.720
me let me describe how my my house sits. My

583
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:47.680
house sits on a like about on the road my

584
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.799
neighbors across the across the street. My driveway goes up

585
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:56.759
and at the top of my driveway, I'm about even

586
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:01.160
at the top of his house. And if you go

587
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:02.720
up into my living room, I got to live on

588
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:04.759
a split level. On the back side it's one floor

589
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.079
and on the front side it's two floors. If you

590
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.199
go into my living room, you can see beyond his house.

591
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:14.000
And beyond his house there is a field where there's

592
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.079
always seems to be a lot of turkeys, and you

593
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:19.840
see deer over there, and they use the field for

594
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.239
growing for growing grass, and they turn into hay because

595
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.559
every fall you see like hay bales rolled up and

596
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:33.559
being collected. On the other side of the field, there's

597
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:37.280
a woodline, and I think behind his house, he's probably

598
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.639
got about fifty yards a field before it hits the woodline,

599
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:46.880
and that that that field goes to the if you're

600
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:48.440
looking at it, if I'm looking at his house from

601
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:52.760
my driveway and you go left. The next cross street

602
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:56.239
is about three tenths of a mile down the street,

603
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:01.360
and that's all got filed and wood a varying The

604
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.119
field is that varying ripped with sometimes it's a lot

605
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:11.480
bigger and sometimes it isn't. But the woodline goes to

606
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:15.400
the next street, and that street is about three tenths

607
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:18.880
of a mile further from that the edge of the

608
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:23.360
woodline to the next street. So anyways, it's quarter to

609
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.480
one at night. I decided to turn the TV off

610
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:27.159
and go to bed.

611
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:28.679
I passed.

612
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.920
I passed my my room so called I'm married, and

613
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.119
she has her room and I have mine. But from

614
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:38.039
in my room, it was decided that the cat boxes

615
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:41.480
would be put into it. So I didn't like the

616
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:43.719
smell coming from there. I took a look, and sure enough,

617
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:45.920
one of my my cats. I got some older cats,

618
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.079
and sometimes the boy he doesn't make it all the

619
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.920
way inside the box and he pisses on the pad.

620
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:56.119
I got on the front side of the box. Pads

621
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:58.679
there for that very reason. So I decided, well, let

622
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.039
me clean this pad before I go to bed, and

623
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.400
I clean the cat box. So I take it outside

624
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:05.920
to my driveway.

625
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:07.079
I got a door there.

626
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:11.519
It goes to the garage, goes into the driveway, and

627
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:15.320
I come out and I put the pad down on

628
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.880
the ground and go to get some soap to put

629
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.920
on it and use the holes to kind of spray

630
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:21.280
it off.

631
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:23.840
And when I go out.

632
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:25.239
There, the light on the side of the house, I

633
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:27.000
have my driveway lights on with the light on the

634
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:31.320
side of the house flicks on, and from across the field,

635
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:33.679
across the street, the house in.

636
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:35.800
The field, I hear, hey.

637
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:42.320
You know, this isn't the kind of neighborhood where people

638
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.079
are up late and making a lot of noise and

639
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.920
acting up. It just it just doesn't happen. It hasn't

640
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:51.320
happened for three years I lived here. And then I

641
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:57.039
hear hey again. And it's not like you might if

642
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.679
you were trying to get someone's attention, you would say hey.

643
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.000
Then you say hey, you know, to try to get there.

644
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:07.400
But it was just straight hey, hey. And on the

645
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:13.559
second hey, this owl goes off like on the right

646
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.119
side of where I heard the hey, and it sounds

647
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.079
kind of like a like a bard owl.

648
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:21.400
And then right.

649
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:25.239
After that another owl goes off on the left side

650
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:30.480
of the field, and it's something. It sounds like an owl,

651
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:33.840
but I never heard that that kind of sound before.

652
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.519
And I spent time on the computer trying to figure

653
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:43.519
out different owl sounds. I never heard it before, and

654
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:45.000
I found that that's weird.

655
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:48.159
It's not unusual, but that's that's a little weird. And

656
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:51.119
then I hear hey again.

657
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:55.559
But it's further away. And then when the owls go

658
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:59.400
off the ones to the right, it's further away. The

659
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.320
one to the it's further away. And I hear hey

660
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:09.920
one last time, hey, and it's even further away. Then

661
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:12.599
the owl goes off to the right, that's further away.

662
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:14.840
And the owl goes off to the left, and that's

663
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:18.320
further away. And I'm thinking to myself, man, this is

664
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:21.679
that's that's highly strange. That is a highly strange occurrence.

665
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:26.840
And I listened to one of your episodes where one

666
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:28.920
of the one of the guys said that he heard

667
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:33.239
them say a word a ruha, And I thought to myself,

668
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:35.599
for a millisecond, I should yell that out. But then

669
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.760
I also thought, do I really want to draw attention

670
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.639
from something I'm not sure about to where I live?

671
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:45.400
And no, I don't think, so I don't think I

672
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.000
want to do that, and that was the last thing

673
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:48.679
that happened.

674
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:53.360
Wow, high strangeness.

675
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:58.960
That's man, that's a really really I mean, that's a

676
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:00.920
wild journey that you've had. If you think of the

677
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:04.159
entire going all the way back to the seventies, but

678
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:09.960
that area, as we talked a little bit before off air,

679
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.239
I know, I know the Newberry Poor area, and yeah,

680
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.480
the Marshy woods I can almost picture them, you know,

681
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:22.440
because my grandparents they lived in Rally, which is kind

682
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:26.280
of a similar area. But you're getting those Marshy woods man,

683
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:30.760
and yeah, I could totally see something being out there.

684
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:32.719
Do you mind if I ask you some questions about

685
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:35.000
what you saw that day?

686
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:36.719
Not at all awesome?

687
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:41.880
Would you how would you describe the build of what

688
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:42.320
you saw?

689
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:49.920
So I would I would describe it as a if

690
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:51.800
I had to compare it, if I have to compare

691
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.559
it to a human age wise, I would say was

692
00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:03.440
probably like a like a it male And it's mid

693
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:08.599
twenties to the thirties. And you've got to remember that

694
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:12.960
when I say that, the sunlight kind of does funny

695
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:13.639
things with it.

696
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:16.920
I can understand why.

697
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:20.559
People take pictures and the pictures look blurry because I

698
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:24.960
had to concentrate on this thing because it I don't

699
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:28.719
want to say it look blurry, but it was. The

700
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:32.480
arms were not distinguishable from the body because it kept

701
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:36.679
its arms down by its side, and I just couldn't

702
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:39.519
I just couldn't make out the borders of the arms

703
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.960
in the in the body. But the body was like

704
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:47.000
a fit body. I couldn't really see muscles or anything

705
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:49.760
because of the because of what the sunlight did with

706
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.840
the with the hair, you want to call it that,

707
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.679
but it appeared to be fit from the way, from

708
00:40:56.719 --> 00:41:01.599
the speed it moved and the posture of it.

709
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:04.679
Does that make sense, Yeah, it absolutely does. You had

710
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.639
said the shoulders were as big as a basketball, and

711
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:11.079
I was just making sure that I heard that correctly.

712
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:15.400
So is that saying that the size of the shoulders

713
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:18.159
they were as big as a basketball or or what

714
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:19.519
did you mean exactly by that?

715
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.960
So, like I said, I had a profile view of

716
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.639
the thing, so I was looking at it from the side,

717
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:34.360
and I could see death, but you know, I couldn't

718
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:36.239
see much of anything else. I only got a fraction

719
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:38.559
of a second look at it when it was facing

720
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:41.400
it on to me because it was in the process

721
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:41.880
of turning.

722
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:44.199
But when I say that the shoulders were.

723
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.800
Big, as big as a basketball, if you take your

724
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.760
left hand and reach it to your right shoulder and

725
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:56.480
feel that the shoulder, if it was as big as

726
00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:00.000
a basketball, then I guess what I'm thinking.

727
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:01.360
Is that the arms were huge.

728
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:02.519
Yeah.

729
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:06.119
I just couldn't. I just couldn't, you know, distinctly see

730
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.400
them that they were huge. And believe me, I had

731
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.519
second thoughts about did I actually see one? And I said, yeah,

732
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.760
because you saw the brow, you saw the nose, and

733
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.639
you saw the mouth, and you could see that in

734
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:22.559
the profile as it ran. And unless they had a

735
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:26.199
good eight seconds look at it. I mean, if you

736
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:28.159
would take a picture and look at it for eight seconds,

737
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:29.760
you can make out a lot of detail on it.

738
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.440
But I don't know is that what you were looking for?

739
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:33.800
Yeah?

740
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:38.880
Absolutely, were you able to or could you? Could you

741
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.119
put an estimated weight on what you saw that day?

742
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.239
Yes, I think it was between eight and nine feet tall,

743
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.079
and Jesus it must have been I don't know, maybe it.

744
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:56.360
Was like between six and eight hundred pounds.

745
00:42:56.360 --> 00:43:01.320
Maybe, gotcha, because it was you know, it wasn't it

746
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:01.960
wasn't fat.

747
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:02.280
It was.

748
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.400
It was fit, but it was huge and it was tall.

749
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:12.360
I just wanted to say this about these things. I

750
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:18.119
think that the muscle, the muscle to weight ratio is

751
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:21.960
off the charts of these things. I was I was

752
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.400
telling my I was telling my friend about what I saw,

753
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:26.880
and he said, well, it's the thing ever came up

754
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:27.079
to me.

755
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.519
I wait till the last second and died. Should have

756
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:30.400
left and shoot it.

757
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.119
And I didn't say a thing to him, But to

758
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:38.159
my mind, it's like these things, these things don't move

759
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:41.119
the same as we do. I think that if you

760
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:46.679
at your fittest that you ever were, and the strongest

761
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.480
that you ever were, if you were that fit, you

762
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.760
were that strong, but you only weighed forty pounds, but

763
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.119
you had all that muscle, you know, you would do

764
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:58.000
you would be able to do things that normal people

765
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:02.320
wouldn't be able to do. And you give a stop

766
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:05.559
on the dime, jump twenty feet or so. I mean,

767
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:10.199
it's you know, these things don't move like like people do.

768
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:13.320
They just don't.

769
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:18.360
No, absolutely, absolutely. You mentioned the color black a few

770
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:21.639
times when you were going through what you what you saw.

771
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:26.000
Did you notice any other colors as well about it?

772
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:28.239
Or was that the main color that was present.

773
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:32.440
No, it was. It was. It was deep black.

774
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:35.440
It was like look through the it's like look through

775
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:39.920
the woods and you see a black that's out of

776
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:40.920
place kind of black.

777
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:44.440
It was. It was deep deep black.

778
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.239
Matter of fact, when I walk, when I when I

779
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:52.119
drive down the road, I take a second blieve it's

780
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:55.800
somebody see something that's really dark and really really black

781
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:57.920
what I'm driving.

782
00:44:57.960 --> 00:44:59.639
I mean, it's just it was deep black.

783
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:07.519
Having the profile view, I'm and I don't want to assume,

784
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.119
but you probably did not notice any details of the

785
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.599
face or or the skin color or anything like that

786
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:17.000
because of the way you were looking at it.

787
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:17.280
Right.

788
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:22.800
I did notice one thing that I didn't expect, and

789
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.079
that was the nose. I thought it would be like

790
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:30.320
more flat in my mind because you know, listening to

791
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.800
all the all the Bigfoot stories and all that, and

792
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.760
the nose was like you know that statue of a David.

793
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:41.480
I guess it is the noses kind of a Roman

794
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:45.320
kind of nose. Sure, it looked kind of like that.

795
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.079
That caught me my surprise. I said, that looks like

796
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:51.719
a like a like a human nose. But I don't know,

797
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.840
it's just that that's that's that's what striped struck me.

798
00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:57.360
I didn't see any kind of color. Like I said,

799
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:01.400
I noticed the bridge, I mean, the irate and the lips.

800
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:04.920
And it's funny with funny with the lips. If you

801
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:09.199
had a a clay face and you rolled some clay

802
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.480
in your hand and put it down for the lips

803
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.719
when you turn that thing sideways, that's what it kind

804
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:16.400
of looked like to me.

805
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:18.199
It was kind of it was kind of weird.

806
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.719
That is really weird. I've heard a few people say that,

807
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:27.519
not specifically the statue of David about the nose, but

808
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:31.559
they pretty much are describing the same thing. They're like, no,

809
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:33.960
it wasn't like a monkey in the zoo or like

810
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.679
a gorilla, like this is a different type of nose,

811
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:39.679
and that's kind of what they are describing. So that's

812
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:43.039
very interesting you'd bring that up. Do you remember any

813
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:47.800
details about the hair that you saw at all that

814
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:50.920
was covering the Bigfoot?

815
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:56.159
No, because it, like I said, it had it had

816
00:46:56.199 --> 00:47:00.800
a weird kind of like a borriness to it. Like

817
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:03.119
I said, it was partly cloudy out that day. It's

818
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:06.480
like one forty in the afternoon. I guess when I

819
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:10.280
saw this thing, you know, I seen it three and

820
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.519
a half miles from my house. That was that was

821
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.519
disturbing enough. They started three and a half miles from

822
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:20.360
my house. Good, but no, the guy really couldn't make

823
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.320
out detail like that from where I was.

824
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.800
You mentioned a few things about the face of it.

825
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:34.079
Were you able to notice anything about the eyes at all?

826
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:38.599
No, because, like I said, I had that.

827
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:42.079
I had that side view and I was like about

828
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:43.880
it maybe two hundred feet away.

829
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:49.039
Was there anything that gave you clues that you were

830
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.239
looking at a male or female?

831
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:56.000
I got the impression of a male if you're a

832
00:47:56.000 --> 00:48:01.960
football field away from somebody. Yeah, most males can be

833
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.840
distinguished from females, you know what I mean. We've were

834
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.000
talking about humans, and I just that's the kind of

835
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:10.280
impression I got about this thing. I thought I thought

836
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:10.920
it was a male.

837
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:18.840
Interesting, did you ever, Well, I'll ask it this way,

838
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:23.760
So who else have you shared this experience with so far?

839
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:29.599
I I told my best friend. I told her a

840
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:33.320
friend of mine that I fished with a lot. I

841
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:36.519
actually actually actually told my wife, But I don't think

842
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.000
she was never really interested in that kind of thing.

843
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:42.159
And I think that if she ever saw one. She'd

844
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:45.559
probably want to move out of here and never come back.

845
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:48.559
So I just I told her about it, and then

846
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:52.079
I never talked about it with her since because I

847
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:54.239
don't think she's I don't think she's receptive to it

848
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:55.960
at all, and I don't think she wants.

849
00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:00.519
To know about matter of fact, I end people that

850
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:01.559
could just go to the.

851
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:04.880
Drive through the woods, get out and take a nice

852
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:06.280
walk through the trees.

853
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:08.800
You know, I splitful walk.

854
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:12.920
I envy you because you know I do it and

855
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:16.360
I know what's in there, and I have to think

856
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:18.440
about it a couple of times.

857
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:25.360
Have you ever talked to anyone in law enforcement or

858
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:28.920
trying to think of the equipped that's not forestry workers

859
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:31.840
out there? It's so there's like mass auduba things like

860
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.519
things like that. Have you ever had those conversations?

861
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:36.760
Oh yeah, let me tell you a story about that.

862
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:40.800
So I would.

863
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:44.639
In the spring, I went to some of those fishing shows,

864
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:48.079
saltwater fish and shows, and you know they're always there

865
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:53.880
kind of stumbing for for theircuses and whatnot, and I

866
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:55.679
pulled them aside and I said, you know what I

867
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:56.119
seen it.

868
00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:57.679
I seen a bigfoot.

869
00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.760
I mean, how can you guys don't tell anybody these

870
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.280
things the real And he kind of looked at me like,

871
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:05.199
I'll tell you what. He's pointing to another office and

872
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:08.840
say she deals with that kind of stuff. And so

873
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:10.559
I went over and talked to him. I said, you know,

874
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:13.320
these things are real. I saw one.

875
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:17.559
She says, yeah, you know, I don't. I don't know

876
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:18.920
anything about what you're talking about.

877
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:22.760
And I said, well, come on, you know you must

878
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:27.719
have seen one, right, we don't know what we don't

879
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:29.599
deal with that kind I don't know what you're talking about.

880
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.800
She just kind of walked away, said yeah, okay, that

881
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:35.119
tells me all I need to know.

882
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.639
That tells me all I need to know what's going on.

883
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:39.119
But they.

884
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:43.559
You're not gonna have a You're not gonna have a

885
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:45.800
conversation with one of them, maybe unless you get them

886
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:48.960
somewhere and they're a friend of yours. Matter of fact,

887
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.800
I told another one and he laughed in my face,

888
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:56.280
and I said, okay, well, you know you work in

889
00:50:56.280 --> 00:51:00.400
this business. One day either you're lying to me laughing

890
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:03.239
like that, are you're really ignorant about it? And one

891
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:05.840
day you're going to see one and you're gonna ask

892
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.039
you superiors, Hey, how can you never talk to me

893
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.000
about this coming up? You can tell me that these

894
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:13.679
things are real. He's gonna he's going to have some issues.

895
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:16.159
I think of his own, then think about unless he

896
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:16.920
was just up.

897
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:22.239
Good luck to you. Good luck to you son. But

898
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.840
by the way, I'm about six sixty nine years old.

899
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:28.280
You know I've been I've been around seeing a few things,

900
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:30.559
but you know, nothing like that.

901
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:34.880
Absolutely, It's it's weird. Different parts of the country I

902
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:43.599
think have different receptiveness when it comes to I guess

903
00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:46.159
people in that and those roles. I mean, you talk

904
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:49.679
to someone in Oregon, you might have a whole different conversation.

905
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:51.880
I mean I've talked to people. I talked to an

906
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:55.480
individual at the Iowa State Fair where I'm from, a

907
00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:58.480
DNR guy, and he told me about his sighting, And

908
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.519
I mean, it's just ever know, like the type of

909
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:03.159
person you're going to run into.

910
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:03.719
I guess.

911
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.480
But you know, sometimes Steve, people have these sightings and

912
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:11.599
they start looking into to see if they've if there

913
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:13.639
have been other sightings in the same area. Is that

914
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:16.559
anything you did where you know you you started looking

915
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:18.880
around and you were able to find other things that

916
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:20.119
have happened in the same area.

917
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:26.880
Well, I didn't have to because when the Internet came

918
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:31.239
around and I heard stories about people having like that

919
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:34.760
feeling I had up in New Hampshire, right, I got

920
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:37.719
I got a good idea what kind.

921
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:38.400
Of was that.

922
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:42.800
I speculated what happened to me that day and what

923
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:46.199
I was feeling about that carriage house up in New Hampshire.

924
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:49.719
And I started listening to a bunch of sasquat stuff

925
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:52.760
and heard all kinds of things, and I did hear.

926
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:56.320
I did hear about the sighting from the bfr ro

927
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:03.119
and the tops Field, Raleigh area, where a kid thought

928
00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:06.559
he saw three of them in a row running in

929
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:10.920
a certain direction. And that was like about the only

930
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.320
thing I found locally bfi Row before, by the way,

931
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:17.920
I did. I didn't put it to the BFI Row

932
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:22.159
and they wouldn't. They wouldn't put it in because I

933
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:26.119
wouldn't let them use the location because I felt bad

934
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:27.760
for the guy I was trying to sell his house,

935
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:32.880
and actually the same house is for sale now, and

936
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:34.679
I wanted to get.

937
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.199
Some kind of habituation issue he's.

938
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:39.280
Talking about, you know, and I'm not going to talk

939
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:42.199
to him about it, but you know, just just strange.

940
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:48.079
That's that's really interesting, and it really Yeah, that's a

941
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:51.719
tricky one because it's like, well, I mean, what's the

942
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:53.719
worst gonna happen. I guess the guy would be like, yeah,

943
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:56.320
I get off my property and you know, call the

944
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:59.039
cops or something. But he could have something going on though.

945
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:02.159
I mean, you never know, especially in that same area.

946
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:06.920
But my goodness, Steve is it's a really cool sighting

947
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:10.039
story in and it's been one of those places where

948
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:12.800
I've been thinking for the last year, like I know,

949
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:17.760
something has happened around here, and when I got your information,

950
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:21.320
I was just like, this is awesome. This is really

951
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:25.159
really cool. There's a lot of there's more more Massachusetts

952
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:28.440
stuff coming out on the show recently, which is great.

953
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:31.000
But you know, Steve, I just want to say thank

954
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:36.039
you for coming on the show and for sharing what

955
00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:40.400
you experienced that day. I mean, it's it's a quick encounter,

956
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:44.039
but you did notice a lot of really interesting details

957
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:47.039
and I will say thank you for sharing those. And

958
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:48.639
I want to make sure that you were able to

959
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:51.679
share everything that you want to share on the show today.

960
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:54.960
Yeah, no problem.

961
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:56.840
If you know, if you have a back in this

962
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:59.119
area and you want to mean to actually show you

963
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:01.800
the spot. I'd be happy to that. I think the

964
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:05.639
tree is still there, so it's got some major on

965
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.920
it now. It's still lodged in the other trees pointing

966
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:13.079
in that direction. Like I said, there's up and down

967
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:14.960
that it could have been anywhere up and down that road,

968
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.239
but it was in the spot where I see in

969
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:19.920
the Bigfoot. So you know what was that all about?

970
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:22.800
But you know, I don't know what to say. If

971
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:25.880
you're a non believer, God bless you. I hope you

972
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:29.159
never see one. Quite frankly me, I would like to

973
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:30.719
see another one. I'd like to look at it in

974
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:36.159
the face, but from a distance. But anyways, good luck to.

975
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:39.679
You, yes, sir, and thank you for coming on the

976
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:40.280
show today.

977
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:43.280
All right, no problem, thank you.

978
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.000
Hey Judy, how are you hi?

979
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:46.679
Can you hear me?

980
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:47.760
Yeah?

981
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:49.840
You sound great? What brings you up today?

982
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.599
I just wanted to tell you about a couple of

983
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:58.400
experiences that I had with big Foot. So I never

984
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:03.400
was a believer and I lived hold on a second,

985
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:06.320
I've lived in the same area pretty much like all

986
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:11.239
my life, and well since three and so now I'm

987
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:15.039
up in the foothills and down below me in the

988
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:17.119
valley is where I used to live, where I grew

989
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:20.840
up in the where the they farmed the cows and everything.

990
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:23.880
So anyways, when I was younger, my mom saw a

991
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:28.000
bigfoot out in the field, and I remember like being

992
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:30.239
a little girl, and we all went out there and

993
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:35.639
the grass was like literally laid down, and it looked

994
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.639
just like a big man had laid there. And we

995
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:40.480
looked at all the footprints and all that, and I

996
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:43.639
was like, oh, I don't believe in this stuff. Never have.

997
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:48.679
And then in twenty twenty one, we had passed like

998
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:50.800
my we went down to go get propane because I

999
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:53.559
live up above where I used to live, like it's

1000
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:56.199
in the valley and I'm up in the foothills, and

1001
00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:58.239
so we went down to go get propane. And we

1002
00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:01.360
were in twenty two and I was with my best

1003
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:04.920
friend and her daughter, and her daughter was like ten

1004
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:08.440
at that time, and we're going really slow because it's

1005
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:10.639
like thirty five on the road to go down to

1006
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:13.960
the nearest little town, and we're just cruising along. We

1007
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:17.039
cast a guy that was walking his dog. And then

1008
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:19.239
as we were coming down this hill, we saw this

1009
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:21.920
guy come out and he was like really tall and

1010
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:24.239
he was in black when I would say, we're probably like,

1011
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:29.800
I don't know, like a block away. As we're coming

1012
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:34.440
down this hill and we're like talking and Lola, her daughter,

1013
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:37.360
was looking, and we're like, why is he wearing all black?

1014
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.519
And it's one hundred degrees out today and this is

1015
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:43.679
really super hot out and he's just standing there and

1016
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:46.760
there's no mailboxes, and I'm thinking, I go, dude, that's

1017
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.840
a gullie. That's a gully, Like why would anybody come

1018
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:51.760
out of there? That's a gullie. I've lived here all

1019
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:55.199
my life. I know how the road is. And so

1020
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:58.760
as we start getting closer and we're coming up on him,

1021
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:01.840
we go into shop like we're in shock mode, and

1022
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:05.719
we just I swear to God, like just coast up

1023
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:10.400
on him. And Megan just breaks the car right and

1024
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.760
we're just staring right at him, and he's like touching

1025
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.719
the front of our car. And we're not in a

1026
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:20.519
we're just in a smaller car, and anyways, he's just

1027
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:22.880
touching it and he's looking in at us and he's

1028
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:27.320
smiling like his mouth is open, and then he takes

1029
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:29.920
I don't know, two or three steps and this jumps

1030
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.119
right down in the gullie right on the other side

1031
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:35.760
of the road, and we're sitting there and I'm just

1032
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.119
in shock and Megan's in shock, and then all of

1033
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:42.400
a sudden, Lola goes, we just saw Bigfoot. It just

1034
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:45.920
brought us out of our out of the what we

1035
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:49.679
were in right, and we realized Lola saw it. We

1036
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:50.559
just didn't see it.

1037
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:51.480
She saw too.

1038
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:55.440
The kid saw the can is proof and so then

1039
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:57.679
we turned around, we looked in the gullie and everything,

1040
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.679
and we couldn't see him. And I didn't talk much

1041
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:04.400
about it after that because I was just like still

1042
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:07.920
in shock. I was like, Okay, I really see this thing.

1043
00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:12.800
And then in twenty twenty three, I had left for

1044
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.280
a couple of nights and I had left my dogs

1045
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:17.400
for the night in the bus and stuff by themselves,

1046
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:18.880
and I was pretty worried about him, but I had

1047
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:21.360
to leave. And the next morning I came back and

1048
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:25.280
I was in my yard and my friend Jim was

1049
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:28.159
with me, and we were standing in my yard and

1050
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:30.559
all of a sudden, back in the woods where my

1051
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:35.480
grandkids have their forts, I heard movement back there, and

1052
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:39.639
I go, Jim, somethen's back there, and I go, what's

1053
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:42.280
back there, and so we start walking back towards it.

1054
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:45.920
He's not too far and we get about I don't know,

1055
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:50.760
i'd say about thirty feet away, and Bigfoot walks right

1056
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.519
out into the sunlight, right through the woods and we

1057
00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:55.360
could see him. And he walked right out into the

1058
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:59.639
open road, and he was like i'd say, probably about

1059
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:05.280
fourteen feet tall, and to me, he was the same.

1060
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:07.719
He looked exactly the same as the one I saw

1061
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:12.599
down the road, but this time he turned around, he

1062
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:14.519
looked at me, and he went down. And this is

1063
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:16.880
not a lie. He went down. He scrouched down on

1064
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:19.800
his knees and he hit his chest like twice with

1065
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:24.760
his arm towards me, like like we're friends and I'm

1066
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:28.280
just standing there and then shocking, Gim's going, is that

1067
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.880
a big Is that a picture? He's just casually beating himself.

1068
01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:35.880
I can't talk, and like he's so close to us.

1069
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:38.239
He could have picked us up, killed us, did whatever

1070
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:41.079
he wanted to do, but he didn't. Instead, he bowed

1071
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:44.559
down like and did this thing on his chest. So

1072
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:46.920
I looked that up because I wanted to know what

1073
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:49.320
did he do, Like why would he pound his chest

1074
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:52.039
like that at me? And I guess it's like a

1075
01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:55.239
sign in Congo or whatever with gorillas that that means

1076
01:00:55.280 --> 01:01:00.440
we're friends, and which I believe we are, because listen,

1077
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:04.760
I have chickens and ducks and everything around here, and

1078
01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:07.960
if Bigfoot wanted to take them, or a bear or

1079
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:10.719
cougar when I'm gone and go and getting supplies, they

1080
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:14.440
could have them. But nothing never touches my animals. So something,

1081
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:18.480
I figure, something is keeping care of him. But that

1082
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:22.079
is the second time I saw him, and he walked

1083
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:24.920
like straight down the road, and I watched him walk

1084
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:27.199
right straight down the road and down the path and

1085
01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:30.639
go right through the bushes onto the property I live

1086
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:34.079
with about I don't know, thousands and thousands of acres

1087
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.679
behind me, and I got two lakes up behind me

1088
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:40.559
that hippies live on, and then I got a lake

1089
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:44.760
that's a park lake down below me. And my property

1090
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:48.119
is the only one that can joins with all of

1091
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:52.239
this land that goes way out everywhere. It's called Eagle

1092
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:54.679
Mount and so I can join with all the lakes

1093
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:57.840
and everything around me, and I can join all the

1094
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:01.760
way back down to the valley through the woods. And

1095
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:06.880
so he's I'm thinking he's running that what I figure

1096
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:11.360
out is that he's running the foothill line, because there's

1097
01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:14.000
like where I live, there's foothills that come up from

1098
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:17.000
the valley and they run all the way down to

1099
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:20.519
another town called Quillisene. It's about twenty miles away, and

1100
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:23.599
then that goes up into the Olympic Mountains and stuff.

1101
01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:26.920
Here in Washington, I'm conjoined with a lot of property.

1102
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.679
And I think the day I came home, he was

1103
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:33.639
taking a nap and he got caught and so he

1104
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:37.519
was moving because I saw like this person like try

1105
01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:39.599
to hide behind a tree. At first, that's what I thought.

1106
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:41.280
I thought it was a guy trying to hide behind

1107
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:43.239
a tree in my yard, and I was like, what

1108
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.440
are you doing? So this is our property, you can't

1109
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:49.920
be on it. So that's what I thought, But it wasn't.

1110
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:53.719
And that was my second time seeing him. And now

1111
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:57.559
I'm a full believer in Bigfoot. I'm not afraid of him.

1112
01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:00.840
I still go outside at night in the dark by myself,

1113
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:06.119
and I sleep outside by myself sometimes up here, and

1114
01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:09.599
I'm not afraid. I honestly feel like he's probably been

1115
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:15.000
protecting it, protecting us because with all the cougar sightings

1116
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:19.599
and Bobcat sightings and everything people have and all the

1117
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:23.320
children that have played up here and stuff, and nothing's

1118
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:26.880
ever got us. So I do think he is a protector.

1119
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:32.039
I do think he doesn't like people that are negative.

1120
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:35.119
He doesn't like he doesn't like guns, that's for sure.

1121
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:39.119
And I think he's just like any other animal. But

1122
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:42.440
he definitely is out there. There's no doubt about it.

1123
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:42.960
In my mind.

1124
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:46.719
I'm a true believer. But that's all I got to say.

1125
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:50.440
Thank you for sharing. So that's pretty much. It's close

1126
01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:51.440
to the Olympic Peninsula.

1127
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:55.000
It sounds like, yeah, I'm not been where Eagle Mount.

1128
01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:58.719
It's called the Eagle Mount and it's by the Olympic Mountains,

1129
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:03.239
close to the Olympic Mountains. So I'm like up above

1130
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:07.119
where the highway runs like through quill Scene Brennan and

1131
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:12.800
it goes like through Mount Walker and all that. So yeah,

1132
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.360
it's not a lot of forest around me. But I

1133
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:20.400
don't I don't want people like coming big Foot Honting.

1134
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:23.199
I just think people should leave them alone. If it's

1135
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:25.280
meant to be, If he's meant to be seen, he's

1136
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:25.960
going to be seen.

1137
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:31.519
No, absolutely agree with you for all. I have I

1138
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:33.840
have a for the podcast. You may have heard me

1139
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:36.239
say this before. Is it something where I can share

1140
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:37.280
this conversation we.

1141
01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:37.760
Had on it?

1142
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:38.679
Oh?

1143
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:39.639
Yeah, definitely.

1144
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:43.639
Hey, I appreciate you coming up. Hopefully you can stick

1145
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:44.320
around for a bit.

1146
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:50.079
Sure, I love listening. Thank you, Thank you? Okay, bye?

1147
01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:57.119
Hey doing good? How about you? Not bad? Not bad?

1148
01:04:59.280 --> 01:04:59.920
We'll bring you.

1149
01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:02.519
I'm sorry.

1150
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.679
Would you say what brings you up today? Sir?

1151
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:09.000
I just wanted to tell you about an experience I had.

1152
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:14.960
I was out west and I was alone, walking the

1153
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:20.320
trail down by the river and near a big forest,

1154
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:24.000
and it was the forest was dark, but there was

1155
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:27.760
like a lot of mists and stuff like that. And

1156
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:31.360
by the river there there was like a lot of

1157
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:37.840
beavers and animals and stuff. And I was walking my

1158
01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:43.559
horse on the trail, and my horse started to notice

1159
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:50.480
some kind of sound, and so I just I walked

1160
01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:55.039
with him for a little while, and he stopped and

1161
01:05:56.039 --> 01:06:05.119
I just stood there beside him, and I just left

1162
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:06.519
him there, like I tied him up.

1163
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:07.920
And then.

1164
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:24.679
Probably about I would say, about thirty five feet where

1165
01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:28.920
I was standing, there was a figure, like a figure,

1166
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:36.280
like a dark figure, probably about thirteen feet fourteen feet

1167
01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:43.760
standing behind a tree, and it was foggy, so it

1168
01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:48.840
was hard to see what was going on. And anyways,

1169
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:51.000
I tied my horse up and I left him there

1170
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:54.840
at the post, and I was walking up the hill

1171
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:59.679
there there's steep. I had a watch out where I

1172
01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:07.239
was walking fucking and I slipped and there was like

1173
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:12.199
the leaves were wet, and I started falling down the

1174
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:18.719
hill and then I heard a big roar and it

1175
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:24.519
sounded like a like a bear, but it was a

1176
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:30.719
little bit different. So I got back up and after

1177
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:35.239
falling down, I cleaned myself off, I got the mud

1178
01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:40.480
off my pants, and then I started walking in the

1179
01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:43.159
direction where I saw the like the shadow thing behind

1180
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:51.480
the tree there. I got closer and the thing was gone.

1181
01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:56.000
But then a few minutes later I saw the figure

1182
01:07:56.079 --> 01:08:00.800
thing running like running ahead of me. Anyways, I tried

1183
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:04.239
to catch up to it, and then it was gone.

1184
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:08.920
But like the the figure I saw was like it

1185
01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:14.159
almost looked like a like an ape. It was like

1186
01:08:14.199 --> 01:08:17.039
the size of a like a gorilla or something like that,

1187
01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:19.119
and you could tell it had a lot of hair

1188
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:23.279
on it and it was dark in that. But after

1189
01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:26.880
I saw that, it was like, did I did it

1190
01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:32.079
was that Bigfoot? Did I experience like this asspatch guy?

1191
01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:35.199
And so it made me wonder was that Bigfoot? So

1192
01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:37.439
it was it was quite the experience.

1193
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:43.079
Wow. Where did that happen? Can you share any of

1194
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:43.600
about that?

1195
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:48.279
It happened in the rock the rockies up there. I

1196
01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:50.760
forget the name of the town. I think it was

1197
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:52.279
called Whistler or something.

1198
01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:55.680
Like that or okay, Whistler BC.

1199
01:08:57.079 --> 01:08:58.760
Yeah, And it was, like I said, it was a

1200
01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:03.600
cool day. It wasn't very normally temperature out there in

1201
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:06.399
that time of day, was like it was in the

1202
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:11.520
morning time, early in the morning before the sun was

1203
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:16.840
fully set in the sky, and it was like a

1204
01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:19.199
fall they felt. And then there was like a lot

1205
01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:22.720
of fog and stuff and it was really hard to

1206
01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:25.479
see what. Definitely something out there.

1207
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:30.920
Wow.

1208
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:34.319
I appreciate you coming up and sharing what you experience.

1209
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:38.039
Is this something I could share on Bigfoot podcast as well?

1210
01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:39.520
Sure you can.

1211
01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:39.840
Yeah?

1212
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:42.920
Awesome. Hey, thank you for coming up and keep us

1213
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:44.880
in mind if you experience anything else.

1214
01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:47.039
Thanks very much.

1215
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:48.520
Hey, Ed, how's it go?

1216
01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:48.960
My there?

1217
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:50.720
You got it? How are you doing?

1218
01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:50.960
Sir?

1219
01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:55.359
Oh? Hey? My name is that? How you doing?

1220
01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:56.000
Hey?

1221
01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:56.319
Good?

1222
01:09:56.359 --> 01:09:58.359
My name is Shermia. Nice to meet you. I saw

1223
01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:01.199
your comment about something happened in spencer Port.

1224
01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:08.279
Yeah, yep. It happened about thirty years ago in spencer Port,

1225
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:11.880
New York. I could give you the road right. There's

1226
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:16.560
houses back there now, but there's still woods, and there

1227
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:23.600
was weird things that would happen, probably about a month

1228
01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:26.439
before you'd hear weird things. And I was always in

1229
01:10:26.479 --> 01:10:31.399
the woods because the farmer, because we lived right there

1230
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.760
in a duplex, and he farmed the field that was there,

1231
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:38.239
and he would park his equipment right behind the house

1232
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:42.560
in his field, and he said, hey, could you watch it.

1233
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.119
You live here, and I'll let you hunt in the

1234
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.279
woods because I owned a lot of guns. I like

1235
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:55.119
to go feudal. And probably before this happened what I

1236
01:10:55.159 --> 01:11:00.840
told you about about three weeks it was at and

1237
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:03.159
I was walking out to the shed. It was probably

1238
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:09.000
oh forty feet from the house, just a wooden shed

1239
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:14.800
right on the edge of the field there. And do

1240
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:18.479
you know what a chimpanzee sounds like when it's angry

1241
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:24.720
and it runs away, it screams, it thrashes. And I

1242
01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:27.439
think this was a family of him. I'm not positive

1243
01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:30.880
and I'm not weird. Trust me, because I'm going to

1244
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:33.640
give you a name of a guy who you might

1245
01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:35.439
be able to get a hold of tomorrow. I'm pretty

1246
01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:38.239
sure I know where he works and he'll back this up.

1247
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:42.319
And this thing ran from behind the shed and it

1248
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:49.359
screeps like I watched animal shows, and when a chimpanzee

1249
01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:54.119
gets excited, it runs and it thrashes, and I heard

1250
01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:57.159
it run right down the hedgerow, right into the woods

1251
01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:01.920
and then it stopped. Okay whatever. I put it off

1252
01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:06.880
to a raccoon, a box, something like that. And Matt,

1253
01:12:07.319 --> 01:12:10.640
my buddy, we went out back to do shooting, and

1254
01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:13.119
I had my spotlight because it was going to get

1255
01:12:13.159 --> 01:12:14.920
dark and we didn't know when we were going to

1256
01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:20.880
get back. So we start walking back and the spotlight

1257
01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:25.760
dives and I had a two twenty two rifle and

1258
01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:29.840
I forget what rifle he had, and it's pitch black,

1259
01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:32.520
but we knew where we were. There's a trail that

1260
01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:35.159
goes right up the hill into the field and you

1261
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:39.119
can see the lights of the houses. We get almost

1262
01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:42.520
to the crest of the hill by this hedgerow that

1263
01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:44.359
had a little creak in it that ran to the

1264
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:48.520
woods where that noise ran down and I heard a buck.

1265
01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:52.720
We both heard this buck snort. My dad was my

1266
01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:55.000
hunted for years. I know what a deer sounds like.

1267
01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:58.359
And we heard it. We both stopped and I says, Matt,

1268
01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:01.960
that's a buck land down somewhere in here. And we

1269
01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:03.880
both didn't want to get hit with a horn, right,

1270
01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:07.119
So I says we could put a couple of rounds

1271
01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:13.760
in the ground. He goes, okay. So we heard it,

1272
01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:16.239
and it sounded like it was probably twenty to thirty

1273
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:19.279
feet on the ground in front of us. We couldn't

1274
01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:22.880
see it. The spotlight the battery burned out. It was dead,

1275
01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:27.319
and it's pitched black, no moon, and you couldn't see

1276
01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:30.000
your hand in front of your face, basically. So we

1277
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:34.600
fired two rounds into the ground where this thing was

1278
01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:41.520
laying and made that noise changed. It was now angled

1279
01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:45.600
up and I'm guessing nine to ten feet and this

1280
01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:49.199
is no lie and it let out such a guttural growl.

1281
01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:54.319
I've hunted bear, my dad, my brother and me, we've

1282
01:13:54.399 --> 01:13:58.399
hunted grizzlies in Canada. I know what a bear sounds like.

1283
01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:03.279
There's no animal in New York State that can make

1284
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:07.720
that noise. And it shook your chest and we just

1285
01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:10.920
high tailed it to the house. But we couldn't smell it.

1286
01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:14.760
And that was weird because usually an animal that lives outside,

1287
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:17.880
you're gonna smell. And I've hunted, like I said, We've

1288
01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:20.680
hunted for years. My dad owned gunshops, he was a

1289
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:25.920
conservation officer. I know animals. But the weird thing is

1290
01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:28.239
the next morning, when me and Matt both got up

1291
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:30.960
to go to work, he goes, you want to go

1292
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:33.199
out there and look for tracks. I says, I don't know.

1293
01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:36.920
I don't want to know. I said, no, go ass mac.

1294
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:39.760
He's going to give you the same story, the same

1295
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:44.880
exact story. And it you watch these people that go

1296
01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:47.319
hunt them, and you're looking at an animal that can

1297
01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:51.119
go eight hundred I'm going to guess fourteen hundred pounds

1298
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:54.079
and can rip trees out of the ground and stick

1299
01:14:54.119 --> 01:14:58.800
them back into the ground upside down, right, do yep.

1300
01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:03.920
But I appreciate you just letting me talk. But yeah,

1301
01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:07.560
thirty years ago this happened, and it was I can't

1302
01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:10.760
remember the address of the house, and there's houses behind her.

1303
01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:15.159
Now there's a housing contract. They ripped the apple dorchard

1304
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:18.159
out and there's a huge house off to the one side,

1305
01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:21.399
but the woods are still there, and I never went

1306
01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:24.600
back and looked around in the woods too much after that.

1307
01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:28.640
I didn't go out there at night. But it's weird.

1308
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:32.520
Nothing that I know in New York State can growl

1309
01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:38.319
that way. Nothing. Wow, Okay, an escape And even if

1310
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:41.680
it was an escape silver back, it's only gonna be

1311
01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:45.680
what six seven foot and it's not gonna let you

1312
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:48.640
stand there and fire two rounds in the ground. It's

1313
01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:53.319
going to retaliate. It's gonna figure your challenging it. But yeah,

1314
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:56.159
we never went back out to look for tracks. And

1315
01:15:56.199 --> 01:15:57.439
I said, man, I don't want to know.

1316
01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:00.960
Were other people in that same time time period having

1317
01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:03.079
weird stuff happened in the same area too.

1318
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:10.119
I asked the old couple next to us, and they said, no,

1319
01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:13.600
not really. And there was a cop that I grew

1320
01:16:13.680 --> 01:16:16.199
up with that lived across the street just down the road,

1321
01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:20.000
and I asked him. He said no, the store owner

1322
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:22.239
on the one road, just on the other side of

1323
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:25.319
the field. I've asked him because he was there for years,

1324
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:29.520
and he said his dogs wouldn't the only thing he noticed.

1325
01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:32.920
Every once in a while. His dogs wouldn't wander off

1326
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:36.640
in the backyard, they'd stay up front, but he said

1327
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:43.239
he never saw anything. I've asked people, But there's a

1328
01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:48.880
parkway down by the lake, and there's a couple of

1329
01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:54.560
guys that have supposedly video one that was by the lake,

1330
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:57.399
but it was taken from a distance and you couldn't

1331
01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:00.359
make out what it was. And that was probab probably

1332
01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:03.920
twenty five thirty miles away.

1333
01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:07.800
Wow by Lake, Ontario.

1334
01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:13.520
Yeah, Hamlin Beach State Parkway. Yeah, OK, And I think

1335
01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:18.560
there was a couple other sightings around there, but it

1336
01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:22.439
was just weird. But I've never I've hunted for years,

1337
01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:25.399
me and my dad, we've hunted, like I said, bear

1338
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:29.680
all the way up to Malone County by the river

1339
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:34.640
a Tupper Lake. We've hunted bear. And we went to Canada,

1340
01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:39.319
to Canadian Peninsula and hunted grizzly once. And I've never

1341
01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:42.159
heard anything growl like that. I don't even think a

1342
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:44.800
bear could make that noise. I really don't.

1343
01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:49.399
Oh, are you talking about the Are you.

1344
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:50.760
Talking about shot out back?

1345
01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:56.760
And yeah? Are you talking about the video of what

1346
01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:59.399
people think is a baby bigfoot in a tree?

1347
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:07.560
Was that downun by the hamil Beach State Parkway?

1348
01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:11.760
I think I'm looking at something because is it from

1349
01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:12.920
like nineteen ninety seven?

1350
01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:15.319
Could have been that long ago? Yeah?

1351
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.159
All right, yeah, that's interesting. Do you know how to

1352
01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:22.479
contact those guys?

1353
01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:25.399
I'd have to look up what you're looking up, and

1354
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:28.439
I could probably find I know, I've seen it before. Okay.

1355
01:18:28.520 --> 01:18:30.319
The only thing I have is a tablet. I don't

1356
01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:31.199
have a big computer.

1357
01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:33.039
Gotcha, got you? No problem?

1358
01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:36.119
No, I don't even know if still around ninety seven?

1359
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:43.720
Is that that's true? Hey, I appreciate you coming up

1360
01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:47.239
ed and talking about what happened to there in Spencerport.

1361
01:18:47.279 --> 01:18:50.039
That's a new area for me. Is this a conversation

1362
01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:52.359
I could put on? I have a big foot podcast

1363
01:18:52.439 --> 01:18:56.359
where I share conversations like this, No problem, go ahead, awesome,

1364
01:18:56.720 --> 01:18:57.960
all right, that sounds great.

1365
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:02.960
Guy said, when this thing grows, literally it had to

1366
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:07.199
have been up to ten foot easy. It was just dumbfounding.

1367
01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:10.880
And everybody asked me, why didn't you walk back and

1368
01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:15.680
look for princes? No, that's a big animal. No, I

1369
01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:18.600
don't care if you're armed. Do you shoot? Two twenty

1370
01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:22.439
two is not a quiet gun. It's fairly loud. Believet.

1371
01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:25.159
I think he might have had a thirty thirty or

1372
01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:29.239
a forty five seventy. That thing should have ran. It

1373
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:38.000
did not run. It just growled and it just shook you. Yeah,

1374
01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:39.920
you can shoot it audio. I don't have a problem

1375
01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:40.119
with that.

1376
01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:43.199
Awesome, and keep us in the loop. If you hear

1377
01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:46.159
anything else, I feel free to reach out. Maybe we'll

1378
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:48.359
see you up here again. But thanks for hanging out, man.

1379
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:52.359
Yeah, I just hit follow for you.

1380
01:19:52.359 --> 01:19:53.439
You got it. Thank you, sir.

1381
01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:56.359
I'll see if I can look that look that up.

1382
01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:58.279
It's good talking to you tonight, and you have a

1383
01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:01.199
good one, sir. Before he wrap this episode, I want

1384
01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:04.520
to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.

1385
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:08.520
If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and

1386
01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:11.479
if you've seen something that no one can explain, or

1387
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:14.600
if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's

1388
01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:17.479
been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot

1389
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:21.039
who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if

1390
01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:24.640
you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence

1391
01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:27.880
and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

1392
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.039
And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue

1393
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:35.000
responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1394
01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:38.920
If you're in the logging industry, on a remote oil

1395
01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:42.159
field or a trucker with government contracts and you've had

1396
01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:45.800
something happen that you've never told a soul. And if

1397
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:49.520
you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher

1398
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:53.279
under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1399
01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:56.319
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1400
01:20:56.359 --> 01:20:59.800
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1401
01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:03.640
or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

1402
01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:07.039
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1403
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:11.880
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1404
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:17.199
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1405
01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:20.039
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1406
01:21:20.079 --> 01:21:25.840
carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

1407
01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:30.239
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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1427
01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:31.960
people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

1428
01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:34.720
you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

1429
01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:38.199
Society until next time, Keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

1430
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:40.479
and never stop asking what else might be out there?

1431
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And see you in the woods.