Oct. 12, 2025

The Turkey Hunter vs. The Bigfoot! | Missouri

The Turkey Hunter vs. The Bigfoot! | Missouri
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Season 1

What happens when a military-trained investigator, woodsman, and lifelong hunter finds himself face-to-face with something that shouldn’t exist? In this gripping episode, we sit down with AP, a seasoned outdoorsman from Missouri and a former military police officer, who shares a series of chilling encounters from the Roby area and the surrounding Mark Twain National Forest. From a glowing red orb floating out of an abandoned farmhouse to a deep, vibrating voice that seemed to punch him in the chest, AP’s story unfolds with eerie precision and military-grade detail.


But the story doesn’t stop there. In a spontaneous open mic session, listeners from around the country share terrifying experiences: a woman on Clear Creek Road hears blood-curdling screams and tree knocks, a Maine man describes hearing screams and seeing twisted oaks on his mountain property, a Northern California logger watches a Sasquatch pace his truck at 40 miles per hour before uprooting trees near his house, an Arizona hiker spots something massive trying to camouflage itself on the way to Sedona, and a Missouri man from St. Louis recalls the day a Bigfoot spoke to him and left him gifts in return.


This is a patchwork of the unexplained — voices from across the country, each adding another piece to the mystery. From whispered warnings in the woods to roars that silence the insects, Episode 921 is a chilling chorus of firsthand encounters that will leave you questioning what walks just beyond the treeline.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Pig the Society If

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you get the privilege of talking to AP today. AP

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is a outdoorsman hunter from down there in Missouri and

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we're going to be talking about the area of the

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Robi Missouri today. But welcome to the show.

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AP.

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How are you doing today, sir?

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Good sir?

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How are you doing great? Is there anything else that

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the listeners might need to know about you before we

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start heading right into what you experienced there?

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Just basically a simple background. I grew up in the

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northeast on the border of New York and Pennsylvania. Pretty

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much was indoctrinated into the woods. Because of where we

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lived in the eighties and nineties, I was probably the

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definition of a free range parenting plan, and my parents

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has cut me loose during the days when I didn't

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have school and whatnot, so most of my free time

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was always spent in the woods.

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My family. All my family hunted and.

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Fished, and from a very early age, I was brought

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up in the woods. And big thing about that was

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is at the early age I was taught woodsmanship and

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how the land lays out, how to do certain tasks

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inside the woods, and then eventually it progressed into me

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being able to.

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Go out on my own and hunt and do those things.

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And the woodsmanship is definitely a huge factor, and if

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you're going to eat or not that winter with the

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game that you harvest and everything. As a kid, I

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spent when I was off from school, I would spend

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all my summer in the woods, just monkeying around.

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And in the morning you would go out and you'd

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fill up.

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A gallon milk jug full of water and you would

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just drop down into a crick bottom and you just

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go from there and wherever you popped out during the day,

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you'd find yourself a road and take it back home.

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And after that I grew up up there, and.

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Probably in the late nineties, I decided to join the

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military and got into the Military Police Corps in the

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late nineties and had the privilege, I guess you could

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say privilege just depends on who you talk to, of

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being stationed at Fort leonard Wood there right off the bat,

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and I immediately fell in love with the area outside

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the back gate of Fort leonard Wood, which at the

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time we didn't have cell phones or anything, but it

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was enormous for government land for the Mark Twain National Forests.

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So everywhere you pretty much went outside that southgate it

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was all Mark Twain National Forests. And I've made it

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a point to myself, I said, if I make this

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a career, this is where I want to retire because

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this is just such a unique area and everything. It's

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a sportsman's delight just to be able to go out

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your back door and within two or three minutes you're

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in forest, private or public land.

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So it was pretty awesome. But I spent most of

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my time in the MP Corps.

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I was a patrolman, worked my way up into investigations

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things of that nature and stuff so I've seen a

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lot of interesting things throughout my twenty plus year career,

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and right there about time of it was a little

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bit after COVID, probably a few years after COVID, I

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decided to hang it up and was fortunate enough to

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get the Army to send me back to Fort Leonard

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Wood to spend the rest of my time in the

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Army and get to retire and stuff like that. But

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after that, to ended up starting a little business and

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pretty well known and everything in the area and stuff,

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and it's centered around turkey hunting because it was the

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only thing that I absolutely thought was a challenge growing

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up as a kid, was turkey hunting.

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And I made.

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My bread and butter doing that and learned everything I

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could about turkey's biology, you name it, and the vocalizations

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and whatnot. So I'm pretty well versed in the turkey

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hunting community. I spent a lot of time gear hunting

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and things like that, but nothing really got my gears

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going such as turkey hunting and stuff. Yeah, that's a

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little bit about my background there.

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Which I think it's important to hear all that, because

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not only do you know everything that should be in

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those woods, but you also have the background of investigation

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from your time in the military, so you've got an

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eye for detail when something's out of place, and so

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it it'll be very interesting to see how that all

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plays in. But AP feel free to take us when

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back to when you first started noticing things were a

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little out of place in your experiences in this area.

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And just to take you back off of what you

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were saying, Jeremiah, the investigations and just being a police officer,

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your BS meter is always is on high and everything

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when someone tells you anything.

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So to preface this, I'm going to say that I.

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Am a healthy was a healthy skeptic, and later on

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I'll tell you what kind of started change in my

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mind about this. I'm very level headed and I don't

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rattle easy at all. Like I've been to war zones

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throughout my twenty plus years in the military. I spent

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probably five or six of those years deployed into a

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rat so I've seen a lot of things, a lot

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of combat, and I just coming back to the the

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normal rigors of day to day, like the troubles and everything.

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It's hard to rattle me over things and stuff. So

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I discount a lot of things as now, I just

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chalk it up to happen stance or coincidence and stuff

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like that.

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But the details I'm a barrier to give you. I

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just want to say that I don't I'm going to

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give you the facts to.

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The listeners, and I'm not going to season the details

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to make them any more interesting or palatable or get

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anybody hyped up. I'm just going to tell you what happened,

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and everybody can make their own decision off of that.

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So this kind of started and took place and got

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going in the spring.

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Of twenty eighteen. Like I said, I'm well known.

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In the area for actually being a turkey hunter and stuff,

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so I have a lot of.

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Friends in the area. It's a small community.

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So there's probably maybe you'd be hard pressed to count

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a thousand people in the general area between Roby Eating

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Shade where I live in the Plato areas, so it's

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maybe a thousand plus people that live in that general

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area and stuff.

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Now, where I live and where this is all.

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Going to take places in between two what you would

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call river systems. So you have the Ruby Do River

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that sits more over there to the northwest of Texas

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County and then you have the big Piney River that

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comes through there, and it's all jutting through the Mark

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Twain National Forest.

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Stuff out of the Houston Licking area, out of Texas County.

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It started in twenty eighteen.

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So a cattle rancher buddy of mine who I do

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a lot of thermal and depredation stuff for him during

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cattle seas edder calving season.

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He has a business too.

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And I happen to see him and he's, oh, hey,

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I just picked up this new farm and everything on

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a lease. I don't have it for very long. I

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only got it for a two year span. But there's

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some turkeys in there.

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He throws me the keys to the gate and he's

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have at it. Just go up there and see what

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you can do.

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Because he was a turkey hunter as well, and he

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had already tried in there, and he's like, the are

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some tough turkeys, and he was just gladly threw me

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a copy of the Key to the Front Gates music

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for whatever you want, and just have at it. So

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I went up there probably the same day. I was

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pretty excited. I was like a pig sea and mud

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for the first time. I was like, boy, I got

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a whole farm all to myself.

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So to give you a lay of the land, this

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farm that I'm.

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Going to talk about is probably about three miles west

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by northwest of Roebe, Missouri, just off a highway thirty two.

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The locals call it by a totally different name in everything,

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but I'm not going to give too much away because

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it's actually one of my favorite spots still to this day.

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But I went up there and unlocked the gate, got

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in there, and my first impressions is just it's something.

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It felt desolate, like it was lacking like life, and

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it was just an eerier feeling. If I was to

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put a pin on it, I just felt a little

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kind of uneasy. But I shoked it up till this

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is new land. We've got to learn it and stuff.

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Maybe you're just over excited and whatnot. So I got

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this uneasy feel. It wouldn't really say it was uneasy,

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but do you know when you're in someplace new and

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you're just like, man, this is sun just doesn't it's

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not jiving with me right now?

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And stuff.

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I went through that whole turkey season on that farm,

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and outside of that first initial day or two and stuff,

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I was actually pretty successful on it, and I was like,

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as long as he keeps us farm, I'm going to

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just keep using it. Now the farm is connected. It's

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about a two hundred and fifty acre farm, and it's

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all surrounded pretty much by Mark Twain National Forest. There's

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a White Chat government road that runs into the farm,

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and that's how you get to it.

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If you're not really local or you haven't been there

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from out of state.

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And actually Turkey hunted the air area for a period

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of time, you really wouldn't know that this little patch

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exists up there in that corner and stuff. So I

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was pretty successful that twenty eighteen season. Didn't have any

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issues or anything that I can remember off the top

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of my head that really happened to me, other than

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the fact that those first initial days were kind of

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like they're not I wouldn't say unsettling, but they just

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put me a little bit on edge and stuff. We

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go into the twenty nineteen spring season and Missouri usually

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opens up like I think it's the I can't remember

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was sixteen seventeenth or eighteenth that year, but they opened

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up right about that time. So I was still in

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the military, so how I worked. It is like for

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turkey season, I would always take block out, try to

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use like at least two weeks to three weeks a

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leave in that time frame so I could dedicate it

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all to turkey anic. So that opening morning of the

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spring twenty nineteen season, I go back up to that

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same farm. I open the gate and I pull into

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the down the farm road into this little pasture area

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that has an RB I would say it was.

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I'd say it is.

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Probably built in the nineteen forties old style farmhouse. It

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was dilapidated. So I faced my front towards that farmhouse.

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And this was probably about four o'clock in the morning.

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Because the first day a turkey season, if you're a

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turkey hunter, you're always amped up and getting ready to

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for the first day of season, what it's gonna bring

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for you and everything. So I pull in there, turn

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off my headlights, and I turn it off the truck,

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and I just I go to doing what everybody does

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is eating breakfast and drinking too much coffee. That's probably

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you're gonna regret, probably like thirty or forty five minutes later,

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I'm sitting there shoving little Debbie cakes in my face.

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Trying to get some energy in everything for what I'm

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going to have for the day. And there's no light.

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And I remember it the moon was out, but it

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was really it was cloudy that morning and everything. So

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I'm sitting there facing this farmhouse and there's no light

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in the truck. There's no real ambient light except for

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the moon. And I'm sitting there and all of a sudden,

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I start seeing what appears to be in a lantern

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light that exits this farmhouse, this dilapidated farmhouse. It's almost

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I guess you would call it what people refer to

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as orbs. And it looks like a lantern light. And

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it's just steady moving on a single plane across from me.

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And I'm only about twenty five to thirty yards away,

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and this thing's the size of a basketball, but it

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looks the intensity of what a lantern light would be.

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So I immediately started like looking. I'm like, is that a

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reflection from headlight coming into the gate, because you always

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have to think that you might get a trus passer,

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or there's gonna be people hunting the government land and

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stuff that might be. Just I'm looking around, I was like,

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it's four o'clock in the morning, somebody else has got

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to be out here and everything. So I keep looking

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at it and I'm just like, no, that's that's like

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literally twenty five yards in front of my face. So

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I had my window down that morning, so I hang

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my head out the window kind of looking like ace Ventura,

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and I'm watching this. It didn't go away because I

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thought it was something that was having to do with

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my window, the front window shield of the car. So

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I hang my head out and I'm looking at it

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still there, and I was like, what in God's name

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is that?

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And I just choked it up and didn't really rattle me.

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I just thought it was interesting.

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I've heard of people seeing ball righting before, and you

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always get like people that say swamp gas or whatever.

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I'm up on a high point.

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I've never seen swamp gas up there usually, and there's

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no swap around, there's no running water around it all.

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So that's what kicked off the opening morning of Turkey

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season for me in twenty nineteen. Now fast forward two

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weeks later, because I run a business and I had

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a bunch of people that had bought a lot of

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stuff from me that year, and I always offer and

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open up my house that I had there an evening

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shade to some clients that purchase from me and stuff

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throughout the year, Hey, come on in, I'll take you

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on a turkey hunt or whatever up here in the

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mark Twain. But you don't have to pay anything, no

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lodging or anything like that. So they glad these two guys,

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they gladly, they gladly came.

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And I was like, since there's two of us.

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My wife, who is actually active duty military still to

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this day, she's a field grade officer out of West Point.

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She's probably more i would say, more fact oriented in

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reality and stuff like that than I am.

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She's always got that little s optical.

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She always calls me on things when I get to

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outlandish or whatever. And she's pretty love She's very level

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headed and everything. So I told her, I was like, hey,

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since you're on vacation too, you can help me this morning.

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We'll split up and we'll go up to the old

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farm up there on top. And she gladly said yeah,

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because she turkey hunts and fishes, she grew up doing

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it just like the same way I pretty much did.

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And so we're all standing up there and I didn't

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want to take these guys into the farm, so we decided, Okay,

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we're going to go up there and we'll park our vehicles.

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I would say it's about.

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A half mile down the road, and we'll walk towards

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the front gate of the farm down this white Chat

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road that leads to it, so we're facing we get

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on this road, it's probably I would say it's probably

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about five thirty five forty five ish, And none of

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us are loaded because you're standing on a road. So

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i'd always tell people like, hey, if we're standing up

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on the road, making sure the guns are unloaded. If

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we get on something, we'll step into the woods, load

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up there, and we'll go from there and everything. So

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that's how I run it and everything. So we're all

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standing up there on this white Chat road, we're probably

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about one hundred yards from the front gate of the farm,

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and we're all facing back to the north. And how

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this lays out is that the turkeys will roost over

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this little lip in everything that's probably.

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About one hundred yards thrown the edge of this white

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Chat road.

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And if you've ever hunted turkey before, you always want

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to keep the mentality of always stay on top of

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the turkey in the morning and hunt your way downhill

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and everything. It's very hard to call a turkey downhill

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to you because of the biology of it, but it

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can be done. But I've always had the best luck

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to start and higher in the morning and then working

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my way down to them. And so we're all standing

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up there, facing back to the north, and the woods

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are just you're in that when it's just starting to break.

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You're not completely it's not completely light, but it's still

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dark where you can just make out a.

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Person and stuff. So we're all standing there.

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I've got two the two gentlemen to my left, and

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I've got my wife who's standing probably about five or

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six foot from me on my right, and we're just

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standing there and we're listening to see what you know,

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is going to happen.

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Usually when the.

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Woods start waking up, as as the birds start chirping,

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about five or ten minutes after that, the first turkey gobbles.

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So we're standing there and out of the blue, the

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bird the birds are going now, so there's birds songbirds

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chirping and everything, so out of the blue, it's just

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I can't I couldn't really put a finger on it,

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but I could make out the words over that lip.

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I hear it's almost like broken English, but it's very

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deep and has this I would say, it's a gargly

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roll to it and everything, and it sounded like WHOA

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you're doing? And I was just like, and when this happened, Jeremiah,

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I'm probably one hundred yards from that lip. The noise

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that came off of that whatever that was over that lip, when.

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It said what it was saying, it literally hit me

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in the chest.

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You could feel the vibration from what it was almost

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instantly hit you.

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And it was like, holy crap.

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And if you've ever hunted turkeys before, I can compare

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it to like when you get a gobbler that comes

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in and he's getting probably within ten to fifteen yards

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and he gobbles. You can feel that thump hit you

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in the chest, and you can if you're sitting on

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the ground, you can actually feel it in your legs,

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just the base of it. This thing had some ungodly

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base to it. And I'm standing there when this hit me, like,

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I watched the two guys off to my left take

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a step back. And I don't have a gun because

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I had already punched a tag that year, and my

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wife has a gun and these two guys have a gun.

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So when that happened, all of a sudden, they cave

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in on me and they're like, what was that? And

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I just stood there and I'm not shaken by it

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at all. I'm just like, now I'm perplexed. I was like,

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in thirty three years in the woods, I don't use flashlights,

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I don't do.

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Anything like that.

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But for the first time in almost thirty three years,

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I pulled out a flashlight and started shining it. And

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they weren't worried about what the flashlight was looking at.

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They were in my ear, like what was that? And

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I was like, I don't know.

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I just I gave him the fact based the answered

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I don't know, it's the truth. And they're like, we're

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not moving nowhere until the sun's up and we can

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see everything. And the woods were at that point, the

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woods went completely silent. There was no songbirds singing in

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no Turkey's goblin. It was completely dead, in a graveyard dead.

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So we stood there and I looked at my wife

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and she just looked at me and she says, did

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you hear that? And I was like, yeah, I felt it.

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I felt it. It rumbled my chest.

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And so these guys are still standing there, and I

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wasn't too shaken by it, but these guys, they were

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pretty taken back by. They're like, we're not moving until

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it's good broad daylight out. That was something really weird.

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So something I will tell you from that morning which

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struck me as pretty odd.

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And again, if you've turkey hunted long enough.

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You'll know that turkeys usually don't fly down unless they

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can see what's on the ground in the morning, or

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they know where the hens are, or typically if they

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stay up in the tree for past what.

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We would call fly down time.

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Typically, coyotes are notorious for keeping turkeys in the tree.

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Predators are notorious for keeping turkeys in the tree. We

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ended up hearing a turkey gobble about I would say

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it is about four hundred and five hundred meters back

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up this lip, going more towards, I would say, to east.

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So I made my way back up there and we

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all set up. I got these two guys set up

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on the turkey, and I'm sitting there looking and he

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gobbled again, and It's like, where the heck is this

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turkey at it is like nine to fifteen in the

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morning and stuff, and that was my first gobble, and

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I'm like looking around and I'm like, I'm trying to

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put a pin on him where he's at. And I

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look over about eighty yards and this tom is still

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in the tree. It's nine fifteen, which is not really absurd,

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but it was a bluebird clear day. If the sun

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was shining. There's no reason why this turkey is generally

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up in the tree. They do weird things, but I'm like,

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this part is still up in this tree. And then

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I look over about another fifty yards back over to

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the west and I can see all the hens up

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there still, and I'm like, now that's super weird.

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I was like, usually the hens are the first ones

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down in the morning and stuff. So I was like,

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maybe there's coyotes that kept them up there this long.

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It definitely wasn't for the weather, because.

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A lot of times on foggy mornings you'll see that

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they'll hang up in the trees a lot later and stuff.

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So that was something that was really peculiar to me.

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That kind of it raised a red flag. I was like,

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maybe there's coyotes running through over and here this morning,

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or something that kept them up in everything, but it

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just after that, I just put it in the back

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of my mind. I really didn't think much of it

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in everything. Like I said, I'm a healthy skeptic. I

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was always in the camp of there's always a rational

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explanation for everything, and as a law enforcement officer, I

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always used Okham's razor for pretty much everything. And I

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looked at it and I was like, what's the most

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probable thing that happened on that ridge yesterday? Maybe it

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was a bear, But then again, I was like, I've

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heard bears before, and bears don't when they gargle like that.

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And if they gargle or make any noise, it usually

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doesn't feel like someone's hitting in the chest with a

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frying pan and stuff.

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You don't get that basy tone like that and stuff.

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I was like, it's just weird. And then I got

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to thinking about it.

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I was like, that lip has like almost a ten

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foot drop to it. If there was something standing under

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that lip, it would have had to been taller than

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that lip to get that vocalization to just throw that

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way like that and cause that base that really hit

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us like that I was like, maybe it was standing

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on top of the lip. I don't know, but that

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was that first strange incident that happened in there, and

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I was just like, wow, it's just something me being

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in that you know, healthy skeptic camp.

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I was like, I had a rational explanation for it.

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So I just threw it in the closet and really

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didn't go back and revisit it at all. But I'm

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going to fast forward a little bit. Made it through

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the rest of the Turkey season, and now I'm not

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what you would call a bigfoot enthusiast or anything like that.

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I haven't really studied much anything, so you know, as

466
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far as seeing any other sign or anything in the

467
00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:28.160
area that I've heard on your podcast before, I really

468
00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:32.000
wasn't looking for it. Now I will, but I really

469
00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:35.720
never investigated any further into these things or looked it

470
00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:38.000
into seeing if I could find.

471
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.000
Any tracks or footprints or anything like that.

472
00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.680
I just wrote the whole incident off and threw it

473
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:45.240
in the back of my head. But then they're going

474
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.440
to fast forward into the end of Missouri's gun season

475
00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:55.160
in twenty nineteen, and the rifle season was over, and

476
00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:59.160
my wife is a huge bowhunter, and she loves to bowhunt.

477
00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:04.240
She really liked that farm and whatnot, so she wanted

478
00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:06.599
to go back up there. There was a good spot

479
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.480
that she wanted to set up on. The wind was

480
00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:12.359
right and everything, so she kind of she went by

481
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.480
herself because at that time of the year, I'm really

482
00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:18.000
busy with my business and whatnot.

483
00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.599
So I was like, you go have fun.

484
00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:23.359
So she left in the early morning, went up there

485
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:27.160
and got in stand, and it was probably about I

486
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.160
would say it was probably about two o'clock in the afternoon.

487
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.720
I get a text message that and it reads, Hey,

488
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:36.880
I need you to come up here and pick me

489
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:40.119
up right now. I was thinking to myself, lady, you

490
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:43.119
drove your truck up there. I was like, is there's

491
00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:44.759
something wrong with the truck. She says, no, you need

492
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:47.920
to come up here to the farm and get me

493
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:48.839
out of this tree stand.

494
00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:50.599
It's like, are you okay? She's like yes.

495
00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:54.480
So I didn't ask any other questions other than the

496
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:56.319
fact that hey, are you okay this and that?

497
00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:58.720
Are you in any trouble? No, I'm not in any trouble.

498
00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:01.880
So I get there. I'm thinking she's gonna surprise me.

499
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.359
She shot this one buck that we had seen up

500
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:07.599
there a month earlier. So I get up there and

501
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:09.880
I walk down to where I know she's at, and

502
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:11.960
I'm looking around and I see her up in the

503
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.319
tree and she comes down out of it. She's coming

504
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:17.839
down out of the tree, and I'm like, what's going on.

505
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.440
She's like, listen, She's like, for the last hour and

506
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:25.319
a half, I've been hearing things bang against trees, like

507
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:28.720
it sounds like a shotgun going off, like it's just

508
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:33.240
hitting trees. And I can hear what sounds like Indian

509
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:38.400
drums in flutes, like a fight playing and stuff. And

510
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:40.359
I was like, here, you've got to be kidding me.

511
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:42.880
Like I said, she's more level headed than I am,

512
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:47.319
and she's more into the fax and probably I would say,

513
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.480
probably a little bit more healthy of a skeptic than

514
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:53.559
I am. And to see her jarred and rattled like that,

515
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:56.720
it was like, that's interesting. I was like, first we

516
00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.000
got the Now all these two incidences are that I'm

517
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.559
had over the last year and a half.

518
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.759
I'm like, they're piecing, they're piecing together.

519
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.559
I'm like, first, I got this ball of light that's

520
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:09.759
coming out of the farmhouse up there. Then I got

521
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:15.480
this unexplained like grumble in everything that's shooting back at me,

522
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:17.400
feeling like I get hit in the chest with a

523
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:22.240
frying pan. And then I've got my wife saying that

524
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.279
she's hearing things banging against the tree really loud, and

525
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.640
hearing drums and flutes. And there was no win that day.

526
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.119
It was probably the least breezy day of that late season.

527
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:36.200
There was some wind, but not enough to like really

528
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:38.599
chalk it up to the wind going through the trees

529
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:43.039
and everything. That was the run of those three incidences

530
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:43.799
on that farm.

531
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:45.279
Now, how fast forward to.

532
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.640
Twenty twenty and I'm on Google, so my business is

533
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.160
on Google and everything. So if you ever come into

534
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.519
the Mark Twain Forrest and you're turkey hunting, you'd probably

535
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.319
be able to find my business on Google and stuff.

536
00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:59.640
So I had these gentlemen that were from out of

537
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.319
state in the twenty twenty turkey season. They stopped into

538
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.119
the shop one day and my truck sits right out front,

539
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.960
so's it's not really hard to you can peg me

540
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.839
out in the national forest. So hey, that's in. I

541
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:17.000
know who that is. They're hunting there. These two or

542
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:20.119
three I think it was three gentlemen come into the shop.

543
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:23.839
They're from out of state and they're like, hey, we'd

544
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:25.920
like to get something this and that.

545
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.160
So I was like, oh, yeah, no problem.

546
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.759
They were like, hey, you're the guy that hunts up there.

547
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.400
I don't want to name the road, but on such

548
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:34.680
and such road, and I was.

549
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:36.359
Like, yeah, how did you know that?

550
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:37.960
I was like, I hunt that far and I have

551
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.400
my friend Lisa, is it and stuff back there in

552
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:43.759
the corner and everything. They're like, yeah, we've seen your

553
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:46.480
truck park down there at the end quite a few times.

554
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:50.079
And they brought up some stuff like turkey hunting really

555
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:52.480
and they're like, yeah, we're not hunting that place ever again.

556
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:54.160
You can have it.

557
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.279
And I was like I kind of peaked my curiosity

558
00:28:57.759 --> 00:28:59.599
and I was like, why aren't you guys going to

559
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.559
hunt it? It was still really good and anything, and

560
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.440
they're like, we were down there hunting and this was

561
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.640
just that week of turkey season that they were there,

562
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:13.119
and they were like, we were down there hunting, and

563
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.240
whoever was hunting up there, we thought it was you

564
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:20.160
was throwing rocks down at us down the hill.

565
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:21.440
We couldn't see anything.

566
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.920
We just figured it was another turkey hunter that was

567
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:25.880
local that was trying to get us out of there

568
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:28.559
and everything, and I just looked at him and I

569
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:29.799
was like, they.

570
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:34.839
Were throwing rocks at you. And so it was really interesting.

571
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:36.079
It keeps my curiosity.

572
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.400
I was like, so now I got that, and now

573
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:40.960
I've got the three incidents is coming back to me

574
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:42.880
and I'm like, that's super strange.

575
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:43.440
Again.

576
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:49.200
Time passes and we get into twenty twenty five, and

577
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.599
it didn't have any more incidences up there after that

578
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.680
because I writ that place off again to say the

579
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:01.279
lease and my buddy didn't keep the lease after twenty twenty,

580
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:04.440
I believe, so I really didn't have a use for it.

581
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:06.240
But it still was a really good.

582
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:10.200
Hunting area to hunt turkey, and at least good habitat

583
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:14.480
in good mix September and everything that turkeys would like.

584
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.880
But I was sitting and this is how I found you,

585
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.319
and this all came to fruition is I had written

586
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.400
all that stuff off, and I watch a lot of

587
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.000
turkey hunting episodes and everything, and it was kind of

588
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.119
like all the stars aligned at once, and I seen

589
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.200
this one episode that popped up and I don't think

590
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.200
it was from you. Jeremiah but I'm a faithful listener

591
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:37.839
to you. But this is kind of what got me

592
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.599
back down on this road of what the heck was

593
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:46.240
all that stuff combined, but it showed Turkey Hunter has

594
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:52.319
encountered with sasquatch in Rode Missouri. I'm thinking to myself,

595
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.200
get the heck out of here. So, being inquisitive, I

596
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.400
pull that stuff up and I start watching and I

597
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:01.119
know the guy.

598
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:03.799
I literally know who this guy is.

599
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:06.920
I see him pretty frequently, and I'm like, this dude

600
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:10.480
has never said a word about this, and he's given

601
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:15.039
a pull on interview and I know the location by heart.

602
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.880
I could take you right to it that this happened.

603
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:19.359
And I'm like looking at it and I was like,

604
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.079
that's up on that road and I know exactly where

605
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:22.559
that is.

606
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.160
So you know how the YouTube algorithm works.

607
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:31.400
One time you watch one bigfoot thing, the algorithm starts coming.

608
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:34.200
Up with all these other bigfoot things. And just so

609
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:35.559
happened the stars aligned.

610
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.359
My wife had taken vacation to go see some family

611
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:43.839
and marry and what the heck time was has probably juneish,

612
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.240
maybe July. And she comes back to the house after

613
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.039
this vacation and she says, Hey, I just got done

614
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.200
at this Bigfoot festival and she's looking at my algorithm.

615
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:58.039
She's like, I went to this Bigfoot festival and Marian

616
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:00.000
and this is what I thought. And I was like,

617
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.799
that's all you know, pullug washed and this and that.

618
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:05.279
She's like, oh, really is it? And she brought up

619
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.160
the incidences from back up there on the road during

620
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.400
the twenty nineteen Spring Turkey seeing.

621
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.279
She's like, do you know what that was? And I

622
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.400
was like I don't, and she's.

623
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.039
Everything that I was hearing at this Bigfoot festival kind

624
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:18.000
of lines up with that.

625
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:21.200
So I was like, being a healthy skeptic, I was like,

626
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:22.400
let me, I'm not.

627
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:26.839
I'm very open minded to other people's thoughts and opinions

628
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:29.119
and maybe even facts for that matter.

629
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:30.799
You can't dispute the facts.

630
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.799
So I was like, I need to go find something

631
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.599
that changes me from being a healthy skeptic into okay,

632
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.279
there might be some credence to this and everything. And

633
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.359
the first thing that I roll up upon, I think

634
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.960
I typed into YouTube like Holy Grail of Bigfoot or whatever,

635
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:55.079
and the Patterson what is that Patterson Gimlet video pops

636
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.920
up and I think it's the guy's name was MK Davis,

637
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.839
and he was doing the breakdown analysis of all this

638
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:06.920
and he was getting close ups and everything, and I,

639
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.680
as a police officer, we actually get trained. We do

640
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.599
courses and gate analysis and everything. So I'm watching this

641
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:18.119
and I was like, holy crap. I was like, that

642
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:21.759
skin is moving with that bigfoot walking.

643
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:25.440
You can see the striations and muscle and skin and everything.

644
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.920
And I'm like, I was like, that's pretty profound evidence.

645
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.440
I was like, okay. I was like, the next thing

646
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:34.759
I pull, I pull up and I think it was

647
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:39.279
right underneath that was it was a from the Sierra Mountains.

648
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:41.799
Maybe you can help me out with this.

649
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:45.680
It happened in the seventies and I want to say

650
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.240
it was geez, they called it Sierra Sounds or something

651
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:49.720
like that.

652
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:50.480
Exactly.

653
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.480
Oh dude. I got about thirty seconds into that and

654
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:56.640
I about fell over in my chair. I was like,

655
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:57.720
holy crap.

656
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.960
I was like, that's exactly what came over that whip

657
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:01.519
in the morning.

658
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.960
And it sounded like English.

659
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:06.279
But it was it sounded like I could say, it

660
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.519
sounded like language, and it sounded like, hey, what are

661
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:12.440
you doing. That was exactly about thirty seconds into that

662
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:18.519
kind of really tip the point over into Okay, there's

663
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:22.000
something to this, And then I started down this I

664
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.400
wouldn't even call a rabbit hole because now I've got

665
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:29.239
some pretty unrefutable proof that's not doctored. It's very hard

666
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:33.000
when you see the older stuff, like they didn't have

667
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:36.239
the technology that we have now. So I'm like, okay,

668
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.239
there's some pretty good evidence right here, so let me

669
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.519
keep going. And I come up to I start doing

670
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.719
Google searches and stuff I want to hear from police

671
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.719
officers because to me, hearing from other police officers is

672
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:55.480
I'm like, Okay, I know the mindset, I know the

673
00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:00.519
mentality and stuff because I was a cop for twenty years,

674
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.119
and I'm like, I know where their heads are at,

675
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:05.440
so let me hear something. So all of a sudden,

676
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.679
these nine to one one calls start coming up, and

677
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.000
it's a guy that got his dog thrown over the

678
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:14.800
backyard trees a day earlier. And from listening and being

679
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.480
trained to listen to nine to one one calls, we

680
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:21.159
deal with it in training and stuff, this guy was

681
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:25.320
no bs. You could hear the change of inflections and

682
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.559
seriousness in this guy's voice. I was like, okay, I

683
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:32.079
was like, so this, there's something to this. I'm no

684
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.840
longer really skeptical on this. I'm like, now I'm in

685
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.320
the camp of what can we find or what can

686
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:41.360
we do to get better evidence out there in this

687
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:45.320
day and age in an environment that's polluted with AI

688
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.360
and everything, because everything you kind of see nowadays is

689
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:52.360
just AI because AI is really good, and you've got

690
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.920
to be like an AI expert to like really look

691
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:58.280
at stuff and be like, well that's bs, what's gospel

692
00:35:58.320 --> 00:35:59.440
and what's gorilla poo?

693
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:00.000
Right now?

694
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.639
That's like how I ended up finding you is throughout,

695
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.239
Like I'm researching this, So if I had to give

696
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:11.239
a percentage of like where I was when this all started,

697
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:14.639
I was probably sitting in the five percent range of yeah,

698
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:18.559
Bigfoot might exist, whatever stranger things have happened and everything

699
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.599
like that. Now I sit in the camp of it's

700
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:26.239
eighty five to ninety percent, like this this is something

701
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:30.480
that is definitely real, but I don't know what it is.

702
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.079
And like I've had philosophies on a lot of this

703
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.039
stuff since I got into that, and my wife kicked

704
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.079
me upside the head and said, hey, you might want

705
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:42.519
to slow it back and not be so dismissive of

706
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:46.199
this stuff and everything. So I've done my own research

707
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:50.079
and kind of had some philosophies on what it might

708
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.639
be and stuff. But yeah, that's about it and the

709
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:57.760
end of all that crazy little string of events.

710
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:05.280
Wow, ap journey that you went on since twenty eighteen, right,

711
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.679
that's incredible. Yeah, oh wow.

712
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:12.719
Yeah, I'm I'm pretty sure there's probably people out there

713
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.760
with better occurrences and everything, but it just I thought

714
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.480
it was very interesting and it happened in an area

715
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.880
after doing the research where people are having I wouldn't

716
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.639
say a crazy amount of sightings, but there's incidences in

717
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:28.280
their recent incidences and stuff.

718
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.800
Oh okay, So that's actually I'm going to ask you that.

719
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:35.039
That's something I'm going to ask later. But a few

720
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.960
little questions I want to ask first. So you saw

721
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.199
the orbs or you said it was like the lantern

722
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:46.800
type orb. Do you remember what color that was it?

723
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:53.119
It looked like a reddish white, Okay, almost it would

724
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:57.679
almost fluctuate between like like a yellowy white like it

725
00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.960
almost looked like it almost turned pink at one point,

726
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.599
but it kept on one single plane. There was no

727
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:06.679
balancing to it. There was no it didn't rise, and

728
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:07.239
this kind.

729
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:09.480
Of kept on a single plane, and I would.

730
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:12.639
Say the speed of it moving was probably about the

731
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:16.079
speed of an average person, the speed an average person

732
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:16.639
would walk.

733
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:24.840
That's really interesting. Also the way that you described when

734
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.599
the sound hit you. I've never heard it described like

735
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.320
that before. It's very interesting. So it literally felt like

736
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:34.000
a frying pan hitting you in the chest.

737
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.239
It was like a frying pan hits you in the

738
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.239
extra vibrations after you get jarred with it. It feels like

739
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.280
somebody like beat you right in the test with a

740
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:46.880
frying pan.

741
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:48.000
That's how it felt like.

742
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:50.599
The area over the top of my chest I could

743
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.199
was the shape of a large frying pan would have

744
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:58.119
been hit against you, and you're like, oh, that really rattled.

745
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.159
You could feel it deep in your bones when that

746
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:03.079
bass hits you from that voice.

747
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:05.440
And it's just very interesting.

748
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.400
How long did that feeling last for after you got

749
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:11.159
the initial hit.

750
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.840
Oh, I'd say it was gone probably instantaneously.

751
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.239
It was. It was as soon as it hit.

752
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:21.880
It was almost like the vibration from the voice was

753
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.360
deep and it was intense that it just felt like

754
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:28.840
I don't how to really describe it any other way

755
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:33.400
than it felt like something really solid hitting you with bass,

756
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:36.039
Like if you're standing too close to a speaker at

757
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.440
a concert. That's what it felt like, when you can

758
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:40.599
feel that fump pitch you in the chest.

759
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:44.880
Oh. Absolutely, And it sounded very similar to the Sierra

760
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:46.519
Sounds correct as well.

761
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:51.679
Yeah, Like after I started doing the research and that

762
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.199
came up in that search that I did, I was like,

763
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:59.199
that is almost exactly the tone and inflection that I

764
00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:02.159
got off of that over there, off of the limb.

765
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:04.800
That morning, I was and I played it for my

766
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:09.559
wife and she was like, that's crazy, that's crazy. And

767
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:11.480
I was like, I've been in the woods for thirty

768
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:13.719
plus years. I was like, have you ever heard anything

769
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:14.039
like that?

770
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:17.519
And she's no. I was like, neither of Bye, and

771
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:18.760
it ain't ols.

772
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.239
Absolutely, even though you didn't have you didn't have a

773
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:24.960
sighting in that area, there's enough info to go off

774
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:28.559
of that. Man, there's something going off. There's something going

775
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.800
on at that farm for sure. That is outside the

776
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:36.760
realm of regular animals in that area. It's not turkeys,

777
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.960
I would definitely say that it's not turkey.

778
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.000
Yeah, it's very weird and there was we Actually at

779
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.800
first I thought it might be irrational and using Opcom's razor,

780
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:50.280
I was like, I wonder if it's a cow or

781
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.239
whatever that might have got out or anything.

782
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.320
And then I realized the air in my ways. I

783
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:58.280
was like, there's no stinking cows on here. Yet they

784
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:01.000
pull them off during a certain point of year off

785
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:03.679
of certain areas and they rotate in and out of

786
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:06.960
certain farms, and I was like, I haven't seen a

787
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.159
cow up here since the beginning of turkey season.

788
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.920
I was like, there, it can't be a cow.

789
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.039
Now, remind me. Did you ever have a conversation with

790
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.800
your buddy that actually leased the farm about what was

791
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:21.280
going on?

792
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:27.400
No, because, like I said, like after those certain like

793
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:29.760
I was like, you know what, he's never gonna the

794
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.559
next time he leases a farm. He's never gonna give

795
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:35.039
me the keys like he did before. He's a pretty

796
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:38.679
straight shooting old timer in everything. And if you say

797
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:41.199
something to him like that, you're like, oh, he's on

798
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:43.199
the saucer, he's on the dope.

799
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:43.800
Or something like that.

800
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:45.920
So I kept it to myself and I was like, no,

801
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:47.880
I'm not gonna say anything.

802
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.320
Sure, no, I can get it. Yeah, that's definitely that.

803
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:54.559
It's a tricky one, because it's like, you don't want

804
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:55.639
to heart the.

805
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:59.559
Yeah, And my philosophy was like, there's something really going

806
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.480
on up there, you know, as soon as he starts

807
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:05.119
putting cattle back in there or something, we're gonna know.

808
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:09.800
Well no, oh, yeah, that's true. Bill. End up, they'll

809
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.440
end up. Yeah, they'll end up missing or worse. Do

810
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.239
you happen to know the actual owner of the property.

811
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:18.840
Is that a conversation that you ever were able to have?

812
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:23.679
The owner got old? I would say probably in the

813
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:30.800
around twenty fifteen sixteen, and they moved away, and they

814
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:32.000
ended up passing away.

815
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:34.800
Okay, so this is making even more sense. And this

816
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:36.679
is two hundred and fifty acres. You said, right, it's

817
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:37.519
a pretty big place.

818
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:41.679
Yeah, it's two hundred and fifty acres. And to get

819
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:44.440
to it, there's only one way in on a road.

820
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:45.719
Now, if I was.

821
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:48.679
To walk out my back door from my house, it

822
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:51.119
would take me almost less time to get to it.

823
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.320
I would just have to go up the road about

824
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:54.119
a mile and a.

825
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.760
Half instead of going six miles around to get to

826
00:42:57.800 --> 00:42:59.559
the front gate. I could just walk through the woods

827
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.880
and get to the backside of this thing within driving

828
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:04.880
a mile and take me fifteen minutes to walk through

829
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.960
the woods and get to it. So it's less distance

830
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:13.320
per se from where I live than the drive it takes.

831
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:13.719
To get there.

832
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:17.440
Yeah, so you look at it in a certain way,

833
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:19.719
and I'm pretty convinced by what you told me that

834
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.360
there's got to be a bigfoot there. But you know,

835
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:25.400
you have an area, a massive area where there's really

836
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.159
not people on it all the time, and it's been

837
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.920
like that for years, and then they have hunters show

838
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.159
up out of nowhere. It makes sense that they might

839
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.719
not be the biggest fans of you guys coming on

840
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.119
and restly with their food source where they're not seeing

841
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:42.119
people for years and years potentially.

842
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:47.119
And here's another thing too, Jeremiah, that I try to

843
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:50.960
explain this like rationally and everything. So like around the

844
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:54.599
Mark Plain National Forest, they do timber sales all the time,

845
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.800
and you're it gets to say the timber area is

846
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:03.480
change so drastically from year to year, Like one year

847
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:06.559
there could be a great stand of pines that's probably

848
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:10.599
about seventy to eighty acres, and then within the next

849
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:15.239
year it's completely clear cut through there. And I that

850
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:18.440
would change habitat and I see it a lot in

851
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:21.559
my field of deer and turkey hunting and everything. Like

852
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.840
when they go in they cut out certain areas. USDA

853
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.320
will do these timber sales to these logging companies. They

854
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.760
go in there, they trash these areas and they cut

855
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:33.119
all the good timber out of it.

856
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:36.840
That's habitat and that's food. So why if I was.

857
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.960
An animal and I relied on hunting to keep me alive,

858
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.519
why would I stay in an area that doesn't produce

859
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.119
food for me and stuff?

860
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:45.719
So I need to move on to other areas. And

861
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:48.519
there had been since two thousand.

862
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:51.920
I can guess I got in there about two thousand

863
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:56.000
and sixteen, back into the Fort Leonard Wood Post for my.

864
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:56.800
Last duty station.

865
00:44:56.840 --> 00:45:00.199
I'd say they've been cutting timber pretty hard around that

866
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.800
area since twenty sixteen. And that's a lot of habitat

867
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.679
to take out of a certain area, like I would

868
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.880
say the area between Fort Leonard Wood and where we're

869
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:15.280
talking about maybe a six seven, eight nine mile radius,

870
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:18.519
So they've cut a lot of timber and habitat out

871
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:21.360
of there. So I would almost assume that things are

872
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:25.920
moving around quite they're moving from one homestead to another

873
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:27.039
in there too.

874
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.440
Yeah, absolutely. Since the time you and your life are

875
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:34.800
starting to look more into the subject, have you guys

876
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:40.480
been uncovering other incidents in the same area that you're at,

877
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.440
Other people having encounters or sightings or anything like that.

878
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:48.719
I don't really sit there and come out with it

879
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:53.079
at first. And we have a little store that sits

880
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:56.000
up the way from our house, and you go in there,

881
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.519
and every once in a while.

882
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:02.360
You'll catch an old timer in there talking about something

883
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.840
that you're like, huh, that's interesting.

884
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:08.039
It's like the same thing.

885
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:11.519
Either they catch a glimpse of something, or they heard

886
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:14.760
something that was really weird, or they heard what a

887
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.639
bang against a tree for ten to fifteen minutes sound.

888
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:19.840
One guy said it sounded like somebody was up there

889
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:22.840
with a baseball bat just whacking away at this tree

890
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:25.199
for thirty minutes and stuff.

891
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:28.519
So, like you hear those things and you're like, these

892
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.320
are old timers. They've been in the woods a lot

893
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:32.559
longer than I have. A lot of them are cattle

894
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:36.760
ranchers and they have their own large scale properties and stuff.

895
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.119
So it carries a little bit of weight when you

896
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.679
hear those guys come in and they bring something up

897
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:43.079
like that.

898
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.920
So I hear it from time to time those things,

899
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:50.679
but it's not as frequent as some of the people

900
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:53.079
that come on your show have these a lot of

901
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:55.679
events and stories like you'll hear every once in a

902
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:56.840
while from that area.

903
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.760
But I would say that the most free, the newest.

904
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.599
One that we have in that area is that one

905
00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:06.719
Turkey Hunter that had that occurrence. I think it was

906
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.719
twenty twenty three, twenty four, and he did the interview

907
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:13.239
on video and did the train walk and everything with

908
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:14.480
whoever the interviewer was.

909
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:18.000
I'm pretty sure it wasn't you. But it was interesting

910
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:18.480
because I.

911
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:21.199
Knew the area, and I know the topography in that

912
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.480
area and everything and how the land lays out, and

913
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:26.199
I'm like, if I was going to hide anywhere, that

914
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:27.920
would probably be where I would hide.

915
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.960
I bet that was that Miguel's channel. I bet that

916
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:31.960
was Miguel's channel.

917
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:34.079
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's check that.

918
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:36.159
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

919
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:39.719
Yeah, I think his name is Migul. I'd never I'm

920
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:43.239
at first, I like I said, I'm not. I'm really

921
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:46.360
just starting to investigate into this community and stuff, so

922
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:49.440
I don't know the names of people or channels and stuff.

923
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:54.519
I just find stuff and evidence that is pretty pretty solid,

924
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:57.559
rock solid stuff, and I go with it from there.

925
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:03.760
Yeah, Sasquatch theory is definitely go to for Missouri bigfoot encounters.

926
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:07.280
He is that that's his focus, but he's got some

927
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.239
great stuff from down there. But ap, it has been

928
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:15.239
a really enjoyable conversation with you finding out more about

929
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:16.960
this area. I haven't talked to a lot of people

930
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.800
from this area Missouri, but definitely keep us in the

931
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.760
loop if you, you know, hear anything else, or even

932
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.159
if you experience anything yourself or your wife does in

933
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:27.679
the future.

934
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:34.719
Yeah. Absolutely, I appreciate you having me on. Jeremiah.

935
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.440
Hello, this is his wife.

936
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:40.159
Hello.

937
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:41.480
Hi.

938
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:44.800
Yeah, we have an experience out here on Clercud Road,

939
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:50.440
which we're at right now. Yeah. We were driving and

940
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.440
we were looking for bottles and stuff because there's a

941
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:54.920
lot of old bottles and things that you can find

942
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.719
out here. And I had to go to the bathroom

943
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.800
really bad, and so I was like, pull over, babe,

944
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.360
pull over right here, which is towards the end of

945
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:07.480
Clear Creek Road. It's like really wooded, and I went

946
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:11.000
down this little hill to go to the bathroom, and

947
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:16.559
I started hearing this knock like it sounded like something hidden,

948
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:19.039
like a two by four hitting a tree pretty much.

949
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.119
And I was like, what that And he's all, hey,

950
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.039
what is that to me? And I was like, babe,

951
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:27.920
I have no idea. And he's like, maybe somebody ran

952
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.400
over something on the road over there, and I was

953
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:35.880
like no, And all of a sudden, I swea the scariest.

954
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.039
Thing I ever freaking experienced.

955
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:44.800
We heard the loudest, most undescribable freaking scream like we

956
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:48.000
ever heard in our life. It was long, it was

957
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:52.639
drawn out, and you could just feel it like vibrating.

958
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.960
And I ran so fast up that hill and we

959
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.119
got in that car so fast. But I looked I

960
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:01.079
didn't even know what it was.

961
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:01.599
At first.

962
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.760
I looked for sounds of animals because I've been to Montana.

963
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.320
I've heard bears, I've heard mountain lions, things like that,

964
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:13.960
and it was nothing like that. But I went through

965
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:18.920
sounds of every animal I couldn't find it. And finally

966
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.400
I was just going scrolling through and I was like.

967
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.360
I'll check out bigfoot. Whatever.

968
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:28.599
It was almost identical the stream that I heard. It

969
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:29.400
was identical.

970
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:35.199
Yeah, that is absolutely bonkers. Thank you for sharing that

971
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.599
have there been other people that I've had experiences in

972
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:38.320
the same area.

973
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:43.719
Yes, actually I posted it online at our local discussion

974
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:48.079
chat of things that are mysterious things like that, and

975
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:51.079
somebody said that they were camping out pretty close to

976
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:54.880
where we were at a few years before, and they

977
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:59.039
had rocks thrown at their tent, like big, huge rocks,

978
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:04.639
and they were pretty freaked out. And there's been footprints too.

979
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:10.000
Oh really, how big are the footprints.

980
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:14.519
From what I saw, probably like seventeen inches ye, at

981
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:19.239
least at least And that was just the next road

982
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.400
over that the guy found those footprints, and it's like

983
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:28.880
an animal reserve kind of thing. Okay, but yeah, I

984
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.840
do believe. I wasn't a believer. I did not believe

985
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:35.960
in Bigfoot at all until that happened. And I have

986
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:40.440
no explanation for it. It changed me because I can't

987
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:42.840
go in the woods anymore like I used to.

988
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:44.760
I just get so scared.

989
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:47.599
I'm sorry exactly.

990
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.480
Yeah, Yeah, that's our story.

991
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.719
Thank you for having up guys. Is it okay if

992
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:55.760
I use this conversation?

993
00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:59.239
Yes, that's no problem.

994
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:03.159
Mark, Thank you, guys, good luck in the future.

995
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:04.440
Thank you.

996
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:08.599
Hey, Paul, how's it going good? How are you good?

997
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:09.519
What brings you up today?

998
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:09.719
Sir?

999
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:17.119
I don't know. I'm intrigued, gotcha.

1000
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.599
Did you have any sightings or encounters to share.

1001
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:26.039
Of the night encounters? But I live on on the

1002
00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:30.119
mountain and act in Maine, and I'll tell you I

1003
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:33.840
hear some screams sometimes that make me lock my door

1004
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:42.840
and load my shotgun. Really, I can't say what it is, obviously,

1005
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:48.199
but I've got trees, oak trees that are snapped off,

1006
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:54.760
red oak and splintered at the top about ten feet high.

1007
00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:57.559
There's definitely something out.

1008
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:02.800
Here, goodness, And this is happening current day.

1009
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:07.679
And it hasn't happened for months. Usually happens early spring

1010
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:08.760
and late fall.

1011
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:13.719
Yep, yeah, dude, right on the money. Oh my goodness,

1012
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:19.400
this is really interesting stuff. So you've heard screams? Oh sorry,

1013
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:19.800
go ahead.

1014
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:32.800
I also in the middle of winter here knocks, tree knocks, gotcha.

1015
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:35.079
And do you hear those any other time of year

1016
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:35.519
as well?

1017
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:37.320
Excuse me?

1018
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:40.320
Do you hear those any other time of year or

1019
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:41.199
just the wintertime?

1020
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.159
Usually just in the winter time, But then again, I'm

1021
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:50.480
generally so busy in the summertime. God, I will because

1022
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:56.679
I'm always doing logging because I do my own process,

1023
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:57.639
my own would.

1024
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:04.719
Okay, absolutely very interesting. I talked to a hunter that

1025
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:07.840
had some weird stuff happening Kiddery. He had a sighting.

1026
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:10.920
But I know you're further north of that if you're

1027
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:16.519
an actor. But that's right on the board, probably thirty

1028
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:25.840
miles north and twenty miles west. So I'm northwest of Kiddery, gotcha. Yep,

1029
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:32.880
I'm on the New Hampshire within a mile of New Hampshire. Yep. Absolutely.

1030
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:34.639
Wow.

1031
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.840
It sounds like you're a guy that knows the animal

1032
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:42.480
sounds around your area. So it is not a It's

1033
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:44.840
not a thing where if you're hearing a scream, it's

1034
00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:47.639
not like a fox or anything. This is this sounds

1035
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:48.920
like it's something unique.

1036
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:53.239
Yes, it's definitely. My brother actually has heard it. He's

1037
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:57.920
also heard the Knox. He generally comes up on weekends.

1038
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:04.199
But like last winter, we were putting it was in

1039
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:07.400
January or February, I can't remember, but we were putting

1040
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:12.360
a plow blade on my trot and while we were

1041
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:16.840
in the midst of doing that, he asked me, what's

1042
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:23.400
that knocking sound. I just smiled and laughed at him

1043
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:28.360
because he's a non believer. Okay, I am very much

1044
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:36.920
a believer. I actually have a bigfoot carpet on my wall.

1045
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:44.239
Oh really, yes, it's my sister in law makes carpets

1046
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:45.519
and she made it for me.

1047
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:51.840
Okay, Oh that's cool. Paul Dean, a guy who lives

1048
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:56.679
in Maine, is bigfoot. Do you hear people sharing accounts

1049
00:55:56.719 --> 00:55:59.599
of having sightings or anything or is it not? Is

1050
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:01.880
it a thing that's not really talked about up there?

1051
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:06.239
It's really not talked about. I honestly think people are

1052
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:13.000
afraid to talk about it. I'm not. I have a

1053
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:17.280
big foot hoodie that I wear all the time. Just

1054
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:25.000
because I'm one believer. Somethings is just strange. I have

1055
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:27.199
twisted trees here also.

1056
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:30.760
Oh really? Oh man, they're beach.

1057
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:36.440
Trees, and which is a very hard wood and very

1058
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:41.119
something very strong would have to have done it. There's

1059
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:42.599
no way the wind could do this.

1060
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.239
Paul, Is this a conversation I could put on my

1061
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:48.599
ex foot podcast.

1062
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:53.000
For that, Garr, I have no problem with that, all right.

1063
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:56.000
Yeah, Paul, keep us in of the loop. If stuff

1064
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.440
continues to happen, Stan, how are you thinking?

1065
00:56:58.519 --> 00:56:58.719
Man?

1066
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:03.320
Hey, really enjoy and appreciate what you're doing.

1067
00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:06.239
Give me people a community about talk about this stuff,

1068
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:12.039
because maybe just as intriguing as it is traumatizing. I'll

1069
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:16.159
let you pick because I am in a spot. I'm

1070
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:18.639
active duty, I'm overseas right now, and I'm in a

1071
00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:23.079
spot where I don't have too many personal experiences happened

1072
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:24.920
to me when I used to happen all the time,

1073
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:28.280
but my friends and family have. So I got one

1074
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:30.519
from my uncle that he reached out to me about

1075
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:32.639
the same uncle that I took those photos with when

1076
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:35.519
we were taking photos of deer, and one from an

1077
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:37.079
old buddy of mine when I was in when I

1078
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:38.800
was up in northern California logging.

1079
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:43.639
Where is what area of the country is the uncle

1080
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:44.280
wants from?

1081
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:49.480
My uncle is in Tennessee, but he likes to move

1082
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:53.320
between Tennessee and Kentucky because he finds the area is beautiful.

1083
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:55.719
But this is happening what he described to me was

1084
00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:56.760
happening in Tennessee.

1085
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:01.840
Gotcha, Yes, that far that I was talking about out, okay, gotcha.

1086
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.599
First off, of course, thanks for you service here over

1087
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.559
there doing what needs to be done. I appreciate that.

1088
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:08.960
Thank you.

1089
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:12.760
Stan. Yeah, of course I am going to pick good

1090
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:14.960
old northern California.

1091
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:16.800
Oh, you're going to enjoy this.

1092
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:20.960
So I was reaching out to a few of my

1093
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:25.760
coworkers I still talked to from that company because they

1094
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:29.119
were good friends. And I've even had some pretty strange

1095
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:34.480
experiences from out there, nothing crazy significant. I've definitely seen bigfoot.

1096
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.840
I've definitely seen them, like those photos of my uncle were.

1097
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:38.360
Not the first time.

1098
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:41.559
But while I was working there wasn't anything crazy. I

1099
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:44.880
was like, hey, y'all heard anything about this recently. One

1100
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:48.320
of them reached back and said, yeah, actually, I had

1101
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:52.159
one pace my truck as I was coming home from.

1102
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:56.440
Work down the mountain. I was like, oh, tell me

1103
00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:56.880
about that.

1104
00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:00.400
So what he said was, because when you're log you

1105
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:01.920
leave the equipment out there, right.

1106
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:04.280
You don't just take it home with you. It's too

1107
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:04.920
much trouble.

1108
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.400
So you usually have someone out there watching the equipment,

1109
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:09.039
making sure no.

1110
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:11.400
One steals it, breaks and whatnot.

1111
00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:14.719
So he goes his entire night shift doing this.

1112
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.920
It was his turn, goes entire night shift doing this.

1113
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:22.679
Everything's fine until an hour or so before he gets

1114
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:24.280
off his shift.

1115
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:31.480
He starts hearing like wood crunching, branches breaking, and he's okay.

1116
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:35.840
Animals whatever, until it gets close enough to where his

1117
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:37.360
that's not normal.

1118
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:39.519
He said it's a He said it was.

1119
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:44.960
Obvious, like very obvious, right, big animal that should not

1120
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:46.559
be making as much noise as it was.

1121
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:49.159
So he thought it was a bear. He's a massive bear.

1122
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:51.559
So it's like, it is what it is. They're usually

1123
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:53.760
skittish whatever.

1124
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:57.639
So he gets off his shift, nothing really happens, starts

1125
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:01.480
walking to his truck, and he realized very soon as

1126
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:05.400
he's walking to his truck that he's being paced. He

1127
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:08.639
would walk stop, something would walk with him and stop

1128
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:10.119
with him, right, And he's like all right.

1129
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:11.119
So he's freaked out.

1130
01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:13.800
He gets to his truck as fast as possible, goes

1131
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:19.280
to flip that engine, starts to drive off, and drive

1132
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.719
is easy for the most part until he actually gets

1133
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.480
onto the main road down the mountain and he sees

1134
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:29.760
a shadow pull up alongside his truck and he looks

1135
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:31.639
off to the left and he said it was the

1136
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:35.960
biggest meanest thing I've ever seen. And I was like,

1137
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.000
what are you talking about, biggest meanest what? And he's like,

1138
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:43.159
I'm pretty sure I caught a big foot like pacing

1139
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:45.239
my truck and I was going thirty miles an hour.

1140
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:49.639
I was like, there's no way. He's like, yeah, it was.

1141
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:52.440
He said it was close enough to where if it

1142
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:56.000
reached out his hand, it would it could grab his

1143
01:00:56.559 --> 01:01:00.519
side view mirror off his truck. He said it was

1144
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.079
like switch, like switching between looking down the road and

1145
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:07.360
looking at him, almost like in momentum with how he

1146
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:11.719
was running, like with his steps, and he said it

1147
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:15.239
looked angry that he was there to begin with. And

1148
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:18.199
so I was like, did it do anything. He was

1149
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:20.920
like no, he was just running with me and he

1150
01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:24.119
was angry. And I was like, so, didn't attack you

1151
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:26.880
or nothing. It was like, no, I don't know what

1152
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:29.840
he was doing. I was just freaking out. And he goes,

1153
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:33.119
I'm speeding up to thirty five forty forty five, and

1154
01:01:33.199 --> 01:01:35.280
each time you would go to speed up, he would

1155
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:36.519
clock right along with him.

1156
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:38.239
He said.

1157
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:40.920
It wasn't until I had to slam on my brakes

1158
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:43.599
to hit a turn Mountain Roads eight twist. They turned

1159
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:47.480
and my tail, the tail of my truck almost spun

1160
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:49.960
out that it had to dodge the tail because it

1161
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.639
almost spun out into the big Foot and it dipped

1162
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.880
all into the off into the woods, and he didn't

1163
01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:58.079
see it again that rest of the night, and he.

1164
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:01.599
Goes, I thought it was over. I thought I got lucky.

1165
01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:04.840
That wasn't gonna say anything about it until a week

1166
01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:08.039
later when he realized all the trees around his house,

1167
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:12.039
one by one, like over a few days, started getting

1168
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:12.880
flipped upside down.

1169
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:18.039
No way, oh man, And I've been to his house.

1170
01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:22.440
Man, those are ironwood trees that he planted there specifically,

1171
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:25.880
those things do not come up easy, if at all.

1172
01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:31.840
And he said, one by one he would find.

1173
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:35.880
These trees completely torn out of the now granted ironwood trees.

1174
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:37.920
They have normal roots, but at the center is a

1175
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:42.079
root ball keeps them seated into the ground. Said by

1176
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:46.079
the root ball man torn out and planted. And they're

1177
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:50.840
big too, They're like ten fifteen twenty year old ironwood trees.

1178
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:55.360
And he said, over the next week, like within ten

1179
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:58.800
feet of the woodline surrounding his house, each and every

1180
01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:01.199
single one of those trees flipped upside down. It was

1181
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:03.840
like something was trying to tell him to stay there.

1182
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:08.320
Like he got the vibe that it was very clear

1183
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:14.679
that whatever was flipping around those trees was making sure

1184
01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:17.599
he knew it was big enough and strong enough and

1185
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.639
fast enough to make his disappear if it wanted to.

1186
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:22.079
So don't leave your house.

1187
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:25.199
It was here.

1188
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:26.960
I'm like, I got chills thinking about it.

1189
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.400
I think imagining that, and I got chills when he

1190
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:30.239
was talking about it.

1191
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:32.320
Do you think that bigfoot that you.

1192
01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:34.840
Caught tasting your car was the same one?

1193
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:39.760
He was like, yes, but I think it had help.

1194
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:41.880
And I was like, why how many trees you got

1195
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.679
around your property? Is I planted five hundred of them

1196
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:47.880
from my property just to keep the soil down right.

1197
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:49.960
Because he had a bunch of like weed growth and stuff.

1198
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.719
He didn't like it, so he planted all those trees

1199
01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:56.280
and I was like, dude, so you think he was multiple?

1200
01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:58.599
He said, it had to have been at least five.

1201
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.719
Yeah, even as big and as strong as they are,

1202
01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:05.119
it had to have been a good amount of them

1203
01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:07.360
to be able to do that in the short time span,

1204
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:12.079
which lines up with my thought process of there's no

1205
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:14.639
way there's just like one per area. There's got to

1206
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:16.599
be they got to be reproducing somehow. There's got to

1207
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:19.920
be a little fans and whatnot. But I have these

1208
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:22.719
daydreams of, oh, what if I stumbled upon a big

1209
01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:25.239
foot like I could probably take a small one out right.

1210
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.440
Nope, no, not a chance.

1211
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:31.519
No, probably not. I don't take anyone could to be honest,

1212
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:35.159
did did he tell you? Did he just leave it

1213
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:38.679
at northern California or did he share that area that

1214
01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:40.119
chase took place.

1215
01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:44.199
In the logging site sites that we ran out are

1216
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:45.960
up by Klamath National Park?

1217
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:52.480
Okay, so what about a bike Klamath National Park or

1218
01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:54.079
National Forest? Yeah?

1219
01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:54.480
Yeah.

1220
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:58.079
So if you look up Arcadia, California, and you like

1221
01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:01.239
on Google Maps, and you scroll north bit, you're gonna

1222
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:04.400
see a bunch of sub sets, different cabins and homes

1223
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:08.599
he lives in. I don't know which one, but he

1224
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:11.039
lives in one of those. And I'm assuming giving that

1225
01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:14.000
because I've been there. Like I said, it's a bit

1226
01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:18.719
far off from those like sub sections, but still, man, like,

1227
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:24.960
that's a two hour drive almost, And oh yeah, he was.

1228
01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:27.000
Saying that it was.

1229
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:28.920
He was saying it paced him for about a good

1230
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:34.519
hour at those speeds that he was driving home. Like,

1231
01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:39.920
I can't imagine the amount of stamina and sheer force

1232
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:43.239
those animals carry with every single one.

1233
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:46.719
I can't fathom it just based off what he's describing.

1234
01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:52.000
Wow, An incredible account that is absolutely bonkers. Thank you

1235
01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:57.119
for sharing that. Yeah, of course, is our conversation one

1236
01:05:57.239 --> 01:05:59.760
that can be put on the podcast.

1237
01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:02.159
Sure, I don't think you would mind.

1238
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:07.239
Okay, Yeah, we have kept him in out of meus

1239
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:07.800
pretty much.

1240
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:08.679
Right.

1241
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:10.920
Yeah, I haven't said his name or nothing.

1242
01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:17.519
Okay, perfect, Perfect, dude. I appreciate you coming up. Hopefully

1243
01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:20.559
you're able to hang out for a while and listen,

1244
01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:22.960
and maybe we'll hear from me again in the future.

1245
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:23.400
Dude.

1246
01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:26.400
Heck yeah, if I end up going anywhere back to

1247
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.320
NorCal or somewhere else and I have a more significant

1248
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:32.440
experience of myself to share, I'll definitely get I'll definitely

1249
01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:35.159
shoot you call or hop in one of the lives.

1250
01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:37.880
All right, Thank you, Stan, and we'll see you next

1251
01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:38.199
time then.

1252
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:40.800
Heck yeah, you take it easy.

1253
01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:41.800
Yeah, how's it going?

1254
01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:43.320
Hey, how's it going?

1255
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:43.599
Share?

1256
01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:44.840
I'm doing well. How about you?

1257
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.039
Not too shabby? Just a quick story. This goes back

1258
01:06:48.039 --> 01:06:50.599
to the last Labor Day weekend, so not too long ago.

1259
01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:55.760
I'll live out here in northern Arizona. Hunter hiker, that's

1260
01:06:55.800 --> 01:07:01.119
my whole thing. So I was driving someone from the

1261
01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:04.679
airport here in town to Oak Creek, which is on

1262
01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:08.039
the way to Sodona, and it's only two lanes, one

1263
01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:11.480
lane each way. I went to dropped the lady off

1264
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:13.840
out a cabin in Oak Creek. On the way down.

1265
01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:17.320
There's nothing in the road. We're just chilling. She was

1266
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:19.239
taking some photos out the window as we're going down,

1267
01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:22.480
just trying to take some night shots through the canyon.

1268
01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:25.239
And we heard how you didn't know what it was,

1269
01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:28.840
kept on treking paying no mind to it. So we

1270
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:33.719
get to the cabin and she drops off her stuff

1271
01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:35.559
and then wants me to take her back into town. So

1272
01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:38.039
we go back the same way we went through the canyon.

1273
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:43.039
This time there's a branch on the lane going down,

1274
01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:46.159
so I went to go turn my brights on, put

1275
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:48.880
my flashers on, and you see something hop over the

1276
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:51.360
branch over the railing, and.

1277
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:54.960
When the lights hit on it, it pauses, and when

1278
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:59.000
the lights hit on it, it pauses, standing turns away

1279
01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:01.880
from us to lean against a tree with its arm up.

1280
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:05.599
So I've never seen anything in that canyon where it

1281
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:08.519
like intelligible to where it freezes like that, tries to

1282
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:12.639
blend into its surroundings and from in comparison to the

1283
01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:15.320
posts that are along that road, the bottom of a

1284
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:19.079
sign to the ground is exactly seven feet tall. That's

1285
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:24.680
the standard for speed signs in Arizona. So I put

1286
01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:26.840
the flashers on and I get out of the car,

1287
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.039
and when it hears me get out of the car,

1288
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.680
it sprints down the hill. I take my flashlight, go

1289
01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:36.159
to the edge. You can see the foliage is all

1290
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:39.920
pushed down and there's a like a musky smell and

1291
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:43.600
whatever it was. Yeah, that's not a bear. That's no,

1292
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:46.039
none of that, because a bear doesn't stand against a

1293
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:49.640
tree with one arm up trying to blend in. That's

1294
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:51.960
all I have to say. And this just happened lavery

1295
01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:52.479
day weekend.

1296
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:57.520
Wow, as you went after it, I went to.

1297
01:08:57.560 --> 01:08:59.600
Go see what it was, because, like I said, I

1298
01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:01.520
was stopped to get that branch off the road and

1299
01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:04.079
then saw that thing hop over the railing and pause

1300
01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:08.000
by the tree.

1301
01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:10.800
Did you did you get to a certain point then

1302
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:12.239
and then decide to turn.

1303
01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:14.720
Back after that?

1304
01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:14.960
No?

1305
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.279
The lady they all let me to get in the

1306
01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:19.680
car because she saw it too, and I took her

1307
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:20.399
back into town.

1308
01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:25.800
That's wild, dude. Have you done any research to see

1309
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:28.439
if other people have had sightings in that area too.

1310
01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:32.000
So Oak Creek has a visitor center near a stopping

1311
01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:35.159
point called Indian Gardens. The next day I went back

1312
01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:37.880
down to survey of the area. A ranger was moving

1313
01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:39.800
the branch out of the way and clearing the area,

1314
01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:41.840
and I said, hey, man, this is what I saw.

1315
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:44.920
There was an older gentleman in the sixties. He goes, yeah,

1316
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:47.520
we don't talk about that here, but it's been seen,

1317
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:49.199
and that's where you left it at. That was the

1318
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:51.399
ranger working through that visitor center.

1319
01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:56.800
Really, so it's called Indian Gardens.

1320
01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:00.800
Yeah, so Indian Gardens. There's a little stop with a

1321
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:05.119
for service visitor center and ranger station. But the area

1322
01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:07.720
is called Oak Creek Canyon and it's on the way

1323
01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:10.680
to Sedona. So the elevation dropped from seven thousand feet

1324
01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:13.159
down to about four thousand feet, so you go from

1325
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:16.840
Alpine and then then that area turns into like berries,

1326
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:20.199
oak trees and there's a creek with like trout and

1327
01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:23.439
all that. But yeah, is this sustainable environment?

1328
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:27.920
No, it's perfect because that's that's like the mom area.

1329
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:28.479
Is that right?

1330
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:29.760
That is correct?

1331
01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:33.279
Yeah, dude. There are so many stories over the years

1332
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:35.720
about the Mogiam Master and you've probably heard them as well,

1333
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.680
but it's like the same deal. You know exactly what

1334
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:39.520
you experienced.

1335
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:39.840
Dude.

1336
01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:40.960
That is so wild.

1337
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:47.439
Wow, I've never heard about the whole thing in Mungoling

1338
01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:50.319
Rim until I started digging after talking to that ranger.

1339
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:55.399
Yep, yep, Oh my goodness, dude, thank you for sharing

1340
01:10:55.560 --> 01:11:00.880
what you experience. Is this just worry I could share

1341
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:01.920
big foot?

1342
01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:07.039
Yeah, of course you take care the rank.

1343
01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:09.199
Thanks for coming up, man, I appreciate it having a

1344
01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:13.159
good one. How's it going, Hey?

1345
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:13.720
Pretty good?

1346
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:14.399
How you doing?

1347
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:15.560
Hey?

1348
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:15.840
Great?

1349
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:18.479
I saw your comment. It sounded interesting, so I figured

1350
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:19.439
i'd invite you up.

1351
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:26.159
Mh.

1352
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:27.199
Yeah.

1353
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:33.239
We wadam Saint Louis, and when we had lost our property.

1354
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:37.840
When we lost our home the night that it was

1355
01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:38.920
the last night.

1356
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:43.840
We were going to be there, I was out in

1357
01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:48.079
the barn and packing and I read lines on our property.

1358
01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:50.680
None of my neighbors believe me about that. We've seen

1359
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.920
this set of red eyes. Okay, it was so high

1360
01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:58.760
in the air it didn't register to me that night.

1361
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:03.159
It did register that night, like how huge this thing was.

1362
01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:06.439
But when it took off and went down the little

1363
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:10.680
valley for us ten seconds, it roared. Is the first

1364
01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:13.960
time I ever heard a bigfoot roar Okay. And I

1365
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.039
said to my buddy, I said, that wasn't a mountain lion, right,

1366
01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:19.079
He goes, nah, that certainly wasn't a mountain lion. Now

1367
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:23.840
we moved six nautical miles from where our twenty five

1368
01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:27.479
acres was in a very remote part of our county, Okay,

1369
01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:32.359
and me and my kids were watching that stupid Bigfoot show,

1370
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:38.680
Finding big Foot, and they're smacking wood and stuff and

1371
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:41.920
look back, and we'd take two pieces of firewood and

1372
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:48.039
they would answer okay with crash and night. Me and

1373
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:54.359
my youngest boy we heard a bipedal run across the creek.

1374
01:12:54.760 --> 01:12:57.600
And the creek in our backyard was chest deep, and

1375
01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:00.720
this thing it jumped in and went coos coos coos coos.

1376
01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:03.000
And my kid looked at me. He was like, Dad,

1377
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:05.319
that's two legs. I go, yeah, that's two legs.

1378
01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:09.199
I'll make the story shorter. A couple months go by,

1379
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:13.840
we're smelling these things. Okay, a raccoon, you can smell

1380
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:15.600
them as soon as he comes up on you. Close

1381
01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:22.560
this thing. They were so just so strong, impotent. It

1382
01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:25.000
was like thirty raccoons.

1383
01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:26.720
In a bottle. Underneath your nose.

1384
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:31.159
But anyway, they would throw rocks down this hillside. I'm

1385
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:34.000
not believing at this point still, I'm not really thinking that.

1386
01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:37.279
This is a big hairy deal. Not yet.

1387
01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:41.279
And when I was sitting alone after we had a

1388
01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:44.239
bad quick flash floating creek and the next day I

1389
01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:47.399
was sitting on the stairs of the creek in the backyard,

1390
01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:51.319
and I heard a deep guttural voice. I swear to God,

1391
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:53.680
this is how it went down. I heard a deep

1392
01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:59.279
guttural voice. And you never heard no voices around here.

1393
01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:01.960
It's one club house across the creek, and that doctor

1394
01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:04.760
that owned it never came out to the never came

1395
01:14:04.800 --> 01:14:07.319
out there to enjoy his property.

1396
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:12.520
And there were two of them. It's built.

1397
01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:14.600
A big one stopped put his hand on the other

1398
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:17.720
one's chest, and they both looked at me, and they

1399
01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:21.279
both turned and walked up the hillside. And I swear

1400
01:14:21.399 --> 01:14:27.359
to God, they evaporated halfway up the hill, but you

1401
01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:29.279
could still hear their footing up that mountain side.

1402
01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:30.760
I swear to God.

1403
01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:34.800
Now I stayed in the big foot closet for many years.

1404
01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:38.920
I told my two sons about this, and they told

1405
01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:42.239
the mom like I do, they would I told him

1406
01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:45.640
not to because he already thought. Some years later, what

1407
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:48.640
you call it county Towney, I'm not going to say

1408
01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:51.880
the name of the county. I don't want to create

1409
01:14:53.880 --> 01:15:00.600
something out there because because there's a population of them.

1410
01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:01.920
I totally get it.

1411
01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:02.600
Yeah.

1412
01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:09.000
Some years later, a Sheriff's Department retired officer he saw

1413
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:10.119
them in the bigfoot closet.

1414
01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:12.319
Yeah, we could. We look right there.

1415
01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:16.000
We've seen them, seeing two of them, and they were

1416
01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:19.199
leaving stuff for us. When I see these, when I

1417
01:15:19.239 --> 01:15:22.800
see these two entities, I started leaving them fish guts.

1418
01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:25.880
And I know it sounds crazy, but I started leaving

1419
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:29.439
them entrails to animals when I would clean fish and stuff.

1420
01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:31.720
I don't think they were really respecting that as much

1421
01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:35.840
as they were the whole chickens. But it took me

1422
01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:40.439
a long time to figure out. But they were leaving

1423
01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:44.119
me rocks. I just didn't know they were leaving me rocks.

1424
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.680
I thought they were carrying rocks for like aesthetic purposes.

1425
01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:52.199
But yeah, they like gift people stuff. Bigfoot's actually trade off.

1426
01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:55.079
They're not gonna stand there and let you give them something.

1427
01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:56.239
But when you.

1428
01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:58.640
Leave them stuff, they leave you stuff right where you

1429
01:15:58.680 --> 01:15:59.279
left them stuff.

1430
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:02.359
I swear they do. And as far as like.

1431
01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:07.239
When I seen that big red eye deeal coming down

1432
01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:13.760
the hill of our property, I seriously think that Bigfoot

1433
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:18.600
wanted me to see him. I really do, because I

1434
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:22.640
think he already knew where we was headed, six miles away,

1435
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:28.720
right by where he and his family lived. And man,

1436
01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:31.439
it sounds crazy, but I think he let me see

1437
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:35.079
him and his younger one or whatever on purpose.

1438
01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:38.399
I really do. And I don't know.

1439
01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:40.279
I want to move back to that area and just

1440
01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:43.479
be back in that area. It was the when I

1441
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:50.640
knew they were close, I had no feeling of I

1442
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:53.920
could be in trouble or danger. I felt like I

1443
01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:57.000
was a little tiny peon and I was the weakest

1444
01:16:57.039 --> 01:17:00.600
animal in the woods. But when when you hear a

1445
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:04.520
bigfoot roar, everything shuts up.

1446
01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:06.039
It's crazy.

1447
01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:08.399
When the deepest part of summer, where all the insects

1448
01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:10.560
are just allowed it, when one of them bigfoots roar,

1449
01:17:11.039 --> 01:17:15.319
everything shuts up, it's like silent, and yeah, it's.

1450
01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:18.119
I think they're way more intelligent than us. I know that,

1451
01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:20.680
I really do. I think they got it. I tell

1452
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:20.920
you what.

1453
01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:25.119
When I googled bigfoot talks, the very next day, the

1454
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.680
very next morning, because they were talking, the big one

1455
01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.239
was talking. Then all of a sudden, I see all

1456
01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:32.319
kinds of videos where bigfoots are talking.

1457
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:35.760
I had no idea they had. They were communicating.

1458
01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:38.920
Audibly until I heard them talking across creek. Then then

1459
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.800
I google it and then I heard them California foots.

1460
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:44.720
They were imitating people's voices and the one saying Marlborough

1461
01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:46.079
and calling guys names.

1462
01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:46.319
It was.

1463
01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:50.079
It's the most fascinating thing. I'm really fascinated with bigfoots.

1464
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:54.359
People that don't believe don't need to believe, but they

1465
01:17:54.399 --> 01:17:56.920
don't need to come to sites like this and talk

1466
01:17:56.920 --> 01:17:58.159
about how it's not.

1467
01:17:58.119 --> 01:17:59.239
Real, because it is real.

1468
01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:01.760
I think there's state.

1469
01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:03.279
I really do.

1470
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:06.800
I'll tell you this. So you mentioned Saint Louis and

1471
01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:09.560
then you moved outside of it, and it's okay, we

1472
01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:12.520
don't know anything else. That's fine, but I'll tell you

1473
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:16.520
this much. I've gotten reports from all around Saint Louis,

1474
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:23.479
especially the area Weldon Spring. Oh my goodness, Weldon Spring area.

1475
01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:25.600
Big family out there.

1476
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:27.159
South South.

1477
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:35.000
Yeah, you said South Saint Louis, and that's people don't

1478
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:39.159
understand that, But South Saint Louis Like County.

1479
01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:42.359
Here's what I think. I think.

1480
01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:50.479
There's a great possibility that they're actually like if we

1481
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:53.600
got skin walkers, if they're seeing skinwalkers in Saint Louis City,

1482
01:18:54.199 --> 01:18:56.439
I'm willing to bet there's a bigfoot or two.

1483
01:18:57.119 --> 01:18:57.399
See.

1484
01:18:57.439 --> 01:19:00.239
I think there's some cave dwelling bigfoots as well. I

1485
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:01.479
really do, because.

1486
01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:04.560
I really do.

1487
01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:06.880
I think there's a lot of cave dwelling bigfoots now.

1488
01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:10.079
I do know that they're acclimated to the weather and

1489
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:13.000
that like they can handle any winter storm and stuff.

1490
01:19:13.279 --> 01:19:15.680
But have you ever seen any videos of the bigfoot

1491
01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:19.760
babies that are up in the tree? Yeah, and like

1492
01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:21.239
still as can be?

1493
01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:22.359
Have you seen that?

1494
01:19:22.600 --> 01:19:24.560
Yes, Like the.

1495
01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:27.399
Bigfoot baby will be like a big clump and he's

1496
01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:30.680
just staying in the tree and not moving. On my

1497
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:34.560
Google Maps, you can see them bigfoots in the trees.

1498
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:36.319
I'm pretty sure.

1499
01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:37.399
If you know the.

1500
01:19:37.399 --> 01:19:40.239
Area and there's sightings, you get your Google you get

1501
01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:42.720
your Google Maps, and you zoom in on that and

1502
01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:45.079
you let your on a nice phone, on a good phone,

1503
01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:48.560
you can see these dark round balls of fuzz and

1504
01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:52.960
the trees. I think they're bigfoots. I really do baby bigfoots,

1505
01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:54.720
they said.

1506
01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:56.800
Still while the parents go out and do their thing.

1507
01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:00.439
Absolutely, let me ask you this. So you you said

1508
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:04.039
real quick that there's also skinwalker sidings in Saint Louis

1509
01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:04.640
right now.

1510
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:08.680
In Saint Louis City, in St. Louis County. Yeah.

1511
01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:12.239
Yeah, it's funny because the more people that start telling

1512
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:14.800
me about this, I'm pretty sure they were they've been

1513
01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:18.439
here forever, but they come from underground around here. They

1514
01:20:18.439 --> 01:20:21.479
do around here. I'm pretty sure they come from the

1515
01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:25.279
caves and they come up pretty sure. But yeah, they're

1516
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:27.359
seeing these two or three.

1517
01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:29.119
I've heard it two.

1518
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:32.079
I've heard it two times now up at this park,

1519
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:36.520
which is it's just it's unreal. There's only the only

1520
01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:40.600
way a skin walker could be at this park is

1521
01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:44.039
from access to the cave, because we have a huge

1522
01:20:44.119 --> 01:20:47.640
underground cave system that runs all around the Saint Louis

1523
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:48.600
County and city area.

1524
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:50.239
It's huge.

1525
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:54.279
But I'm pretty sure that's where they're coming from. People

1526
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.239
have these sightings where they see this, they hear this

1527
01:20:57.319 --> 01:21:00.800
demonic howling, and I tell I mean, get on the

1528
01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:03.520
internet and look up skin walkers because if it's like

1529
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:05.520
beyond human and it looks like it's shape shifting.

1530
01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:08.159
It's most likely just a skin walker. Doesn't have to

1531
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:09.319
be a demonic entity.

1532
01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:13.159
It could be very well up entity that's from another

1533
01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:16.319
dimension that's been here forever, like the skin walkers.

1534
01:21:17.399 --> 01:21:19.159
Is this a conversation I can put on my big

1535
01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:21.000
foot podcast as well?

1536
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:23.479
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not afraid to yeah anymore.

1537
01:21:24.199 --> 01:21:27.279
I came completely out of the bigfoot closet because once

1538
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:31.359
the Sheriff's department retiree said he's seen the nine footer.

1539
01:21:31.680 --> 01:21:34.279
Then I told everybody I knew from that community. Yeah,

1540
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:38.680
we were playing with them, clapping wood together, feeding them,

1541
01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:41.399
and then I've seen the two walking and talking together.

1542
01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:43.560
It was crazy, man, it was crazy. She's a huge

1543
01:21:43.680 --> 01:21:44.199
nine footer.

1544
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:49.199
He was like a dark blackish brownish grayish kind of

1545
01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:51.560
He was dark, not like you really see a lot

1546
01:21:51.560 --> 01:21:55.039
of the bigfoots. He was super dark brown with a

1547
01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:59.560
little tint of gray. And the short one, I must say,

1548
01:21:59.720 --> 01:22:04.279
was like seventh foot. He won little by no means,

1549
01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:06.159
but just the one I seen was huge. The one

1550
01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:09.520
big one was huge, but the little one was more

1551
01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:14.439
of a peachy, like a dirty brown with a little

1552
01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:17.319
bit of a like a peachy to it.

1553
01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:17.880
It was weird.

1554
01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:20.720
Man, They're two different colorfoots. The big black one was

1555
01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:24.840
super huge and wide, and the younger, smaller one was

1556
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:28.239
like it was huge, but it wasn't like this. The

1557
01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:29.640
black one was a monster.

1558
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:35.560
He was like huge. Just it's weird. I can see him.

1559
01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:37.399
I can see him to this day, but I don't

1560
01:22:37.399 --> 01:22:39.279
want to say his shoulders were five foot wide, but

1561
01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:42.279
I know his shoulders were like super wide, and his

1562
01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:45.279
legs were tree trunks. It was insane, And you know

1563
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:47.920
it's funny. I looked and looked and looked for footprints,

1564
01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:51.399
and I never found a print one. Me and my sons,

1565
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:54.239
both all all three of us, we call him that place.

1566
01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:57.560
But it's funny. It just seems like they were running

1567
01:22:57.600 --> 01:23:00.520
and crossing the creek in areas, and they were running

1568
01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:03.199
through areas they wouldn't. They weren't like running through the

1569
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:06.439
open fields. They'd run through the pasture that had grown

1570
01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:09.840
in it, and they'd run through the like. I laid

1571
01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:16.840
on my belly one night because something was going through

1572
01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:19.000
these pawpaws. If it would if it had been a

1573
01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:24.159
big foot, I'd die of a heart attack. But I

1574
01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:26.319
laid on my belly one night. I thought I was

1575
01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:29.359
gonna sneak up on a big foot eating the paw paws.

1576
01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:33.000
We had a paw pattrack by our house, and I

1577
01:23:33.079 --> 01:23:37.640
laid on my belly and this big old hog was

1578
01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:41.399
He was the one that was eating all these paw

1579
01:23:41.479 --> 01:23:46.039
paws up up the ground. He scared me so bad

1580
01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:50.239
and I almost had a heart attack from the hog.

1581
01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:56.800
The wild hog foots will a big deer and they'll

1582
01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:58.359
take a they'll take a big deer and they'll throw

1583
01:23:58.399 --> 01:23:59.000
it up in the tree.

1584
01:23:59.119 --> 01:23:59.720
Just can't get it.

1585
01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:01.199
I've heard that as well.

1586
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:03.359
That I know for sure, because the neighbors around us

1587
01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:06.359
were talking about mountain lions. They were talking about mountain

1588
01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:08.720
lions dragging these deer up the tree. And finally I

1589
01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:10.359
asked him. I said, where that deer at? And he

1590
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:12.359
told me where. I went down and looked. He was

1591
01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:15.159
talking about a big ten point buck, like two hundred pounds.

1592
01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:17.760
I was like, man, there's no way a chat did that.

1593
01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:21.039
A cat didn't take that. This deer was like thirty

1594
01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:22.920
foot in the air in the tree. I think there's

1595
01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:25.119
no way a cat did that. I said, it didn't

1596
01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:27.279
make no sense. I didn't put it all together until

1597
01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:30.039
years later, but it was actually bigfoot doing that. But yeah,

1598
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:32.600
they'll tree at their food because theres nothing else can

1599
01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:34.199
get to it except for the birds of prey. And

1600
01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:37.199
yeah they're real smart. They're real smart.

1601
01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:39.920
Wow, little wild conversation.

1602
01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:43.000
I got company coming. Thanks thanks for having me.

1603
01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:45.039
Yes, sir, I hope to talk to you later. Have

1604
01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:48.119
a good one. How's it going?

1605
01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:50.720
Good? Good?

1606
01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:54.680
I'm doing well? What brings yet tonight?

1607
01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:59.840
I had an experience one time, but it's been said,

1608
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:02.960
but all of a sudden on my porch one night

1609
01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:05.840
having a cigarette, and I own a pretty good piece

1610
01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:10.640
of land, and it was about like ten o'clock and

1611
01:25:10.920 --> 01:25:16.079
I seen this like round circle glowing in the woods,

1612
01:25:16.079 --> 01:25:20.359
probably about sixty seventy yards from me, and I'm real

1613
01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:22.600
familiar with the area.

1614
01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:23.600
And I'm looking at it. I'm looking at it.

1615
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:26.239
It's about the size of a golf bar, and I'm like,

1616
01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:27.920
when the world is that? Because I had one of

1617
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:30.920
the big barn like and I said, what world is that?

1618
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:35.640
And I'm looking and then all of a sudden I

1619
01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:37.880
thought maybe it was like a possum or a coon

1620
01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:39.880
up on a tree, because it looked like it was

1621
01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:43.359
maybe about it looked like it was around eight foot

1622
01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:46.600
seven food and I was like, it must be a

1623
01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:49.079
possum or a coon on a tree. And it was

1624
01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:52.199
showing out shine, but I still it was still odd

1625
01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:55.800
because it was up. It was in the woods where

1626
01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:59.239
I've never seen deer do it. And all of a sudden,

1627
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:04.880
the eye, what I thought was an eye, It moved

1628
01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:08.720
sideways and two eyes poked out of the tree.

1629
01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:10.640
I'm like, what is that?

1630
01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:14.640
And it had it was a good tin It had

1631
01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:18.239
a good ten fifteen inch spread between my eyes. It

1632
01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:23.439
was like a it was like a cow head likeness. Yeah,

1633
01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:26.159
And I was like, what was in the world? And

1634
01:26:26.199 --> 01:26:28.039
where I'm sitting on the porch. I didn't have my

1635
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:31.840
light on under the porch, but I had a light

1636
01:26:32.439 --> 01:26:36.119
shining toward the front yard security.

1637
01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:37.840
Light, so it couldn't see me.

1638
01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:43.720
I don't, I didn't think, And all of a sudden

1639
01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:47.479
it went back behind the tree. And this went on

1640
01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:51.560
for twenty about fifteen to twenty minutes. It played pickaboo,

1641
01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:55.840
it's sticky head like it would come out behind the tree,

1642
01:26:56.159 --> 01:26:59.079
go back in, come back in. And I was like,

1643
01:26:59.279 --> 01:27:01.319
I say, we ain't this. But the thing of it was,

1644
01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:06.239
I've been hearing other stories and it's been red shine.

1645
01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:09.600
This was like a beer if you just if you

1646
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:12.840
shine through a light through a beer bottle, that.

1647
01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:16.479
Color exactly yellow or amber.

1648
01:27:17.039 --> 01:27:20.000
Yeah, uh huh yeah yeah.

1649
01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:22.840
And I was like wow, and I'm watching this, but

1650
01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:28.239
and I was like and another thing was too. I

1651
01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:30.600
had a bird house at the end at the edge

1652
01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:34.119
of my yard, and I knew that I knew the

1653
01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:37.720
area where it was, so I could take from where

1654
01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:40.560
I was sitting, I could take that bird house and

1655
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:45.279
get a measurement of where that I knew exactly what

1656
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:49.000
tree that it was behind, and it was a big

1657
01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:51.359
white oak. It was a white oak, a good fifty

1658
01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:55.000
twenty inch long, good wide one.

1659
01:27:55.159 --> 01:27:56.279
And so I had.

1660
01:27:56.159 --> 01:27:58.800
My buddy the following a couple of days, I had

1661
01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:01.079
my buddy to go up there with a BBCA pipe

1662
01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:05.600
ten foot ten footer and a measuring tape and I

1663
01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:07.720
sat in that same spot and I had that bird

1664
01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:10.560
house to go by. I knew exactly where the my

1665
01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:15.960
eyes was and I measured it and it was every

1666
01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:20.159
It was eight foot on the dot. It was eight

1667
01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:25.640
foot eyes eyes from the ground. And I was like, wow.

1668
01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:35.079
Now I've had several encounters, but I've never seen it,

1669
01:28:36.439 --> 01:28:38.560
seen nothing, just the eye shine.

1670
01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:43.880
I take that back, Take that back. I was fourteen

1671
01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:47.159
and I was on a juvenile hunt.

1672
01:28:48.279 --> 01:28:51.039
And see we have we have over eighty ninety acres here,

1673
01:28:51.119 --> 01:28:53.319
and I've been here a while. And I was fourteen

1674
01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:57.359
and I was hunting on a juvenile hunt, and.

1675
01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:00.319
I have a.

1676
01:29:00.199 --> 01:29:04.239
Property line that my dad wouldn't let me go past.

1677
01:29:04.319 --> 01:29:07.439
He's don't go past our property line. And going to

1678
01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:12.399
this other guy's property, I snug past it and I

1679
01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:16.199
trailed up there and I was walking around and I

1680
01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:17.840
got to the top of this hill.

1681
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:21.199
And I was sitting down. I just got this feeling

1682
01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:22.279
something was watching me this.

1683
01:29:22.439 --> 01:29:25.039
I wouldn't nothing. I didn't think anohing about no big food.

1684
01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:29.159
I didn't know nothing about bigfood, really. And I looked

1685
01:29:29.159 --> 01:29:31.079
down at my feet and I'm leaning against this tree,

1686
01:29:31.079 --> 01:29:34.920
and there's these big pile of shavings and.

1687
01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:35.880
I'm like, wow, what's that?

1688
01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:40.600
And where I'm at, we don't have beards. And I

1689
01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:44.279
look up above my head and there's on each side

1690
01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:48.239
of the tree is like claw marks going down.

1691
01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:55.079
The tree d D and every bit of like.

1692
01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:58.680
A foot foot long scratch going down each side of

1693
01:29:58.680 --> 01:30:03.279
the tree, enough to make a pile of wood chips.

1694
01:30:03.720 --> 01:30:07.199
I was like, that's weird. So I got the creepy

1695
01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:10.760
feeling anyway, so I started to leave that. When I

1696
01:30:10.800 --> 01:30:13.399
walked down to the creek. There's a creek down at

1697
01:30:13.399 --> 01:30:17.239
the bottom of the holler and I'm walking down it,

1698
01:30:17.359 --> 01:30:20.479
trying to be quiet, walking on the rocks. I got

1699
01:30:20.520 --> 01:30:23.520
my rifle in my hand and got my horn joon.

1700
01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:27.880
It was deer season and I'm walking down the creek

1701
01:30:27.960 --> 01:30:32.399
quiet and just creeping, and I'm looking. I'm a good hunter,

1702
01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:35.199
even at that age, I was a good hunter. And

1703
01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:39.520
I'm looking and everything and it wood. The trees are

1704
01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:44.000
spread apart pretty good. Wasn't much a brush. And then

1705
01:30:44.039 --> 01:30:49.720
I'm looking and I don't see nothing, but I get

1706
01:30:49.800 --> 01:30:52.600
close to my property line and I and this. I

1707
01:30:52.640 --> 01:30:56.119
don't know what it was, but it scared me so bad.

1708
01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:00.199
It was rocked by side.

1709
01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:04.359
Like the creek. I'm in the creek, walking down the creek.

1710
01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:07.600
Whatever it was setting by a tree on the side

1711
01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:13.159
of this creek, and it said, you don't need to

1712
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:19.199
be back here. But the weird thing was whatever. It

1713
01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:21.640
wasn't a hundred, it didn't have no hunter or orange one.

1714
01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:27.880
It had a gilly suit that I thought and excuse

1715
01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:30.000
me so bad. I wouldn't look at it in its eyes.

1716
01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:38.840
I wouldn't look because I was just froze. And but

1717
01:31:39.039 --> 01:31:42.079
I in my peripheral I could tell it. It was long,

1718
01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:49.560
shaggy green, just like a gilly suit, but lower like moss.

1719
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:54.000
And I was like so I just kept walking. I

1720
01:31:54.079 --> 01:31:57.079
kept walking and I didn't look back because the weird

1721
01:31:57.119 --> 01:32:00.359
thing was scaring me so bad is that I didn't

1722
01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:02.000
see it.

1723
01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:05.680
It was right up on me and it was huge,

1724
01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:08.119
and I didn't see it.

1725
01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:10.720
That's what freaked me out, because I was very observed

1726
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:14.479
as I was walking down the rock trying to be quiet.

1727
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:18.079
But I still I didn't put that to no big

1728
01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:22.800
hood either. At that time, I didn't put that to

1729
01:32:22.880 --> 01:32:26.119
no big hood either. And there's been me many mornings

1730
01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:32.079
that i'd go hunting and have something walking beside me. Yeah,

1731
01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:35.359
And to say i'd go out, I'd go thirty minutes

1732
01:32:35.399 --> 01:32:40.560
for daylight because i'd have a good long stretch to

1733
01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:44.640
get into my stand, and I would start out dark

1734
01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:47.680
and I would be walking, but I didn't never thought.

1735
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:49.199
About no bigfoot, nothing like that.

1736
01:32:50.039 --> 01:32:52.600
And I'd be walking and there would be something right

1737
01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:59.119
beside me, stepping along with me, and I would try

1738
01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:02.560
to catch it. It was so obvious and quiet. I

1739
01:33:02.560 --> 01:33:03.359
would try to catch it.

1740
01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:04.079
I would be.

1741
01:33:04.199 --> 01:33:07.760
Walking and then I would stop and it stopped. Normally

1742
01:33:07.800 --> 01:33:10.399
it would stopped the same time I would, but I

1743
01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:11.760
would catch it. Every once in a while, I would

1744
01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:15.319
make one more step, one more step. And I told

1745
01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:17.840
my brother about it, and he went with me one

1746
01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:20.720
morning and it happened, and he said, I'll be down.

1747
01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:24.560
It was crazy. You'd be walking.

1748
01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:27.680
It would be like five or six feet from you,

1749
01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:32.840
walking in the leaves with you footstep, the footstep, and

1750
01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:35.319
you can stop and catch it step one step ahead

1751
01:33:35.319 --> 01:33:35.880
of you.

1752
01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:39.600
You're like, and he my brother's like, what is that?

1753
01:33:40.439 --> 01:33:42.520
I always thought it was. I thought it was a deer,

1754
01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:44.880
but I knew it in the back of my mind.

1755
01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:52.960
I knew it wasn't because it was bipedal right. And yeah,

1756
01:33:53.159 --> 01:33:55.560
that happened there. And then the big thing that happened

1757
01:33:57.479 --> 01:34:00.960
was I had a deal with rock throwing. This was

1758
01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:06.479
a pretty good one. My sister had a trailer on

1759
01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:09.840
this land and wasn't nobody living in it for about

1760
01:34:09.880 --> 01:34:12.840
a year, and it had a clearer, so I decided

1761
01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:18.239
to move in. And I was doing some painting and

1762
01:34:18.279 --> 01:34:20.800
stuff like that, and it wasn't no electricity hooked up

1763
01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:24.199
down here. I was doing painting and stuff like that.

1764
01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:26.800
And I had my dog with me, which was a

1765
01:34:27.079 --> 01:34:30.600
He was like a blue tick pound dog. Wasn't scared

1766
01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:32.800
of nothing, coon hunting dog.

1767
01:34:33.039 --> 01:34:35.199
Everything. This dog wasn't scared of nothing.

1768
01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:39.520
Like I said, this place is setting over for about

1769
01:34:39.520 --> 01:34:43.840
a year and was nobody there, and we're talking. This

1770
01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:46.399
is We're talking. Everything's off the road and the main

1771
01:34:46.479 --> 01:34:51.399
road is very secluded. And I'm doing painting and whatever.

1772
01:34:51.479 --> 01:34:55.359
And i had me a battery TV, a battery light,

1773
01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:59.119
and sleeping bag and stuff like that. And I'd had

1774
01:34:59.119 --> 01:35:01.159
everything in my truck, the pain and everything. I was

1775
01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:03.479
gonna spend a couple of days just to mess around,

1776
01:35:03.479 --> 01:35:08.800
get it ready. Gabby, my dog, was on the porch.

1777
01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:11.399
And it got dark and I started cleaning op and

1778
01:35:11.439 --> 01:35:15.199
everything and started watching the movie and Gabby, she was

1779
01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:17.880
out there on the porch and I had everything on,

1780
01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:20.239
and all of a sudden, these little back little rocks

1781
01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:25.840
started tapping my window. And I had the window, I

1782
01:35:25.880 --> 01:35:29.159
had the window cracked the let fumes out. But these

1783
01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:32.159
little rocks like peas, they couldn't been there had to

1784
01:35:32.159 --> 01:35:36.479
be little tiny rocks, and they was hitting the window.

1785
01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:40.319
And I didn't have no trees around the trailer at all,

1786
01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:45.840
no trees and a good fifty feet leavest fifty yards

1787
01:35:46.079 --> 01:35:50.560
to the woods, the wood line, and these little pe

1788
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:52.520
just kept tapping the window.

1789
01:35:52.520 --> 01:35:56.079
And I was like, what is that? And neighbors.

1790
01:35:56.279 --> 01:35:59.199
I don't even have neighbors for one hundred acres around,

1791
01:35:59.319 --> 01:36:01.119
it's no neighbors.

1792
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:03.560
And I was like, what is that?

1793
01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:07.960
And it kept going and going, and I was like,

1794
01:36:08.760 --> 01:36:10.920
it just didn't make no sense. It could have been

1795
01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:14.000
an animal or nothing. These were aggressively hitting the window

1796
01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:18.920
and mounting off the window. And I said, so, I said,

1797
01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:20.920
somebody's messed with me, and take it. And this is

1798
01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:21.880
taking in mind.

1799
01:36:21.720 --> 01:36:24.800
It was two thirty two, two forty.

1800
01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:28.520
Five in the morning. This is when this started happening.

1801
01:36:29.479 --> 01:36:33.359
And I said, so, I was like, somebody must be

1802
01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:35.680
messed with him. It ain't nobody been here. Somebody's messing

1803
01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:41.800
with I take my Pupiu and I creep outside and

1804
01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:46.560
I didn't see my dog and yeah, I didn't see Gabriel,

1805
01:36:46.600 --> 01:36:51.560
and and it was quiet out there, go bugs nothing.

1806
01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:55.359
I'm talking about, a creepy quiet and all of a sudden,

1807
01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:59.119
I finally heard a little wiper. I said, what in

1808
01:36:59.159 --> 01:37:04.159
the world. And I go to my truck and my

1809
01:37:04.319 --> 01:37:10.199
dog is up under the truck whimpering, and I'm like,

1810
01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:13.840
what in the world. And I didn't have to take mine.

1811
01:37:13.840 --> 01:37:16.680
I didn't have electricity. And when I went out, and

1812
01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:19.479
if it was somebody messing with me, I wasn't gonna

1813
01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:21.079
let them know where I was at. So I went

1814
01:37:21.119 --> 01:37:24.479
out in the dark, and I ain't thinking about no

1815
01:37:24.479 --> 01:37:28.079
big but or nothing. But when I went under there

1816
01:37:28.079 --> 01:37:31.359
and I seen Gaddy shaking like that and whimpering, that

1817
01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:37.000
scared me. And plus the creepy quiet too. I had

1818
01:37:37.039 --> 01:37:40.760
a shed. I had a shed over there, and I

1819
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:42.920
went over to the I was reaching out. I couldn't

1820
01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:44.920
see nothing, I mean, and plus it was dark, so

1821
01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:47.119
dark you couldn't even see your hand it run your face.

1822
01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:50.399
And I knew where a shed was. So I reached

1823
01:37:50.399 --> 01:37:51.720
over there and got to the corner of the shed

1824
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:53.920
and set on a five gallon bucket for an hour,

1825
01:37:54.920 --> 01:37:58.560
waiting to hear her leave or something, let me know

1826
01:37:58.720 --> 01:38:01.479
who's messing around, or where that's otter what? And I

1827
01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:05.920
didn't hear nothing, this dead quiet, so I came on

1828
01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:08.399
in the house. I turned my light, my little electric

1829
01:38:08.520 --> 01:38:11.439
like on and all of a sudden, here it goes again,

1830
01:38:11.840 --> 01:38:16.039
throwing it again, rocks hitting the windows again, little tappings.

1831
01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:17.000
And I'm like, what in the world.

1832
01:38:17.880 --> 01:38:19.600
I'm like, as I thought about it, I wasn't even

1833
01:38:19.640 --> 01:38:21.720
thinking about no big foot. I was like, man, what

1834
01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:25.520
is a ghost? What is this? And why is Gabby

1835
01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:28.319
scared to death? This is really freaking me out. Man,

1836
01:38:28.359 --> 01:38:32.079
I'm like, what my world? I'm gonna tell you. The

1837
01:38:32.119 --> 01:38:34.479
next day, I went back to painting, doing everything that

1838
01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:38.119
I do. I was gonna stay one more night. At

1839
01:38:38.199 --> 01:38:44.039
two forty five, at the same time, it happened again,

1840
01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:48.760
this time with bigger rocks.

1841
01:38:50.239 --> 01:38:51.159
These rocks were.

1842
01:38:51.079 --> 01:38:55.920
About two inches or two inches wide, and they didn't

1843
01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:56.640
hit the window.

1844
01:38:57.039 --> 01:38:59.960
They hit the top of the roof and rolled off

1845
01:39:00.079 --> 01:39:05.039
the roof into the porch and cloud.

1846
01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:09.960
So I went out the door and just unloaded in

1847
01:39:10.039 --> 01:39:16.279
that direction, and then that was that. But I picked

1848
01:39:16.279 --> 01:39:18.560
the next morning. I picked up the rocks off the

1849
01:39:18.560 --> 01:39:20.840
porch where they rode off the porch there and landing

1850
01:39:20.920 --> 01:39:23.399
on the porch, rode off the roof, landing on the porch,

1851
01:39:24.079 --> 01:39:27.439
and yeah, and then and see, I didn't think no

1852
01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:29.319
bi put. Then one day I was watching a show

1853
01:39:29.359 --> 01:39:32.720
on TV. It was about a cop or something and

1854
01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:35.640
he was going down through there going camping and they started

1855
01:39:35.680 --> 01:39:38.079
throwing rocks and I said, you know what, that's the

1856
01:39:38.079 --> 01:39:39.119
same thing that happened to me.

1857
01:39:40.279 --> 01:39:43.960
Oh yep, yep. Hey, we got to ask you real quick.

1858
01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:48.439
Everyone is freaking out. So what happened to Gabby during

1859
01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:50.880
that story? Were able to get Gabby back inside?

1860
01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:54.079
Or oh yeah, oh Gabby?

1861
01:39:54.279 --> 01:39:57.560
She just that night she wouldn't come out from un

1862
01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:00.920
her truck. That she wouldn't do it. She was whimpering

1863
01:40:01.039 --> 01:40:04.239
and shaking and was staying under the truck. And that's

1864
01:40:04.279 --> 01:40:06.640
when I got the craeves. Well, not when you started.

1865
01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:08.880
I was like, Gabby, girl, come here, come talking to her,

1866
01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:11.399
Come here, girl. She wouldn't come out, and then she

1867
01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:14.479
was shaking and winbything like that real solve and how

1868
01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:22.239
quiet was It was just an eerie feeling. Hey, okay, god, yeah,

1869
01:40:22.279 --> 01:40:24.479
when the sun come up and everything, she's fine.

1870
01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:26.399
Yeah, but.

1871
01:40:28.159 --> 01:40:31.279
Yeah, I didn't have I had no idea about no

1872
01:40:31.319 --> 01:40:33.479
big foot or nothing. But then I started putting stuff

1873
01:40:33.520 --> 01:40:35.239
together and I'm like, this could.

1874
01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:36.920
Be absolutely.

1875
01:40:38.039 --> 01:40:39.960
Man. Thank you so much for coming up. Are you

1876
01:40:40.039 --> 01:40:43.079
able to share the general area where this has been

1877
01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:50.960
happening in I'd rather not, at least the state maybe.

1878
01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:56.079
Or out of state. Yeah, Tennessee, Okay, that's what that's

1879
01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:56.680
my guess.

1880
01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:00.359
Yeah, that's no problem. Is this a thing where I

1881
01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:03.760
can use the audio from this conversation for that big

1882
01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:04.800
foot podcast that I have?

1883
01:41:05.960 --> 01:41:06.159
Yeah?

1884
01:41:06.279 --> 01:41:11.079
Sure, okay, yeah, well yeah, I just I was sitting

1885
01:41:11.079 --> 01:41:13.000
there listen to you. I was like, Mama, go ahead

1886
01:41:13.039 --> 01:41:16.640
to tell them what happened to me. But yeah, but

1887
01:41:16.840 --> 01:41:20.119
I have, I've had the gifting part. See, I didn't

1888
01:41:20.119 --> 01:41:22.439
know nothing about that either, and I was getting that too.

1889
01:41:25.079 --> 01:41:27.760
A cool thing about that one was I had a

1890
01:41:27.760 --> 01:41:30.079
bunch of wood that I had stacked up real neat

1891
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:33.760
in the backyard, and I threw a tarp over it, right.

1892
01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:36.600
And every thing was The fun thing was is I

1893
01:41:36.560 --> 01:41:38.119
told him why. I said, Look, I said, it looks

1894
01:41:38.119 --> 01:41:40.520
like a tin because I had a tarpover it looks

1895
01:41:40.520 --> 01:41:42.680
like a tent. And I want you to know I

1896
01:41:42.720 --> 01:41:46.159
came out the other day and today next day and

1897
01:41:46.199 --> 01:41:50.720
it had a rock, huge rock laying in the middle

1898
01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:56.600
of that. And if somebody something had to put it

1899
01:41:56.600 --> 01:42:04.039
there a huge rock laying in the middle, and what

1900
01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:07.079
nobody but us, So.

1901
01:42:07.239 --> 01:42:10.199
This is some wild stuff that happens in Tennessee. Thanks

1902
01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:11.880
for having with me today.

1903
01:42:12.800 --> 01:42:17.640
Yeah, man, no problem.

1904
01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:20.079
Thank you for listening to this episode of The Bigfoot

1905
01:42:20.119 --> 01:42:23.159
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1906
01:42:23.159 --> 01:42:26.239
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1907
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And remember, if you or someone you know has had

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a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear from you,

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so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com

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chance yet, check out our membership community over at www

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connect with other people that are into the Bigfoot subject

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as much as you are. Thanks again for following along

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with the Bigfoot Society until next time, Keep your eyes open,

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trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might

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be out there? And see you in the woods.