Jan. 26, 2026

They’ve Been Living on Her Land for Years | Overton County Tennessee Bigfoot Encounters | Archives

They’ve Been Living on Her Land for Years | Overton County Tennessee Bigfoot Encounters | Archives

This was originally released as Episode 501 on 8/18/24. For nearly six years, something has been active on Ginger’s land in Overton County, Tennessee. What began as strange noises and moved trees grew into repeated encounters that never truly...

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Season 1

This was originally released as Episode 501 on 8/18/24.

For nearly six years, something has been active on Ginger’s land in Overton County, Tennessee. What began as strange noises and moved trees grew into repeated encounters that never truly stopped.


In this episode, Ginger shares a long-term account involving tracks near the creek, large handprints on vehicles, figures moving through the shadows, vocal mimicry, and activity on rooftops. She describes changes in behavior over time, interactions that suggest multiple individuals, and moments that made it clear she was not alone on her property.


This is a deep, firsthand conversation about living alongside something intelligent, observant, and deeply tied to the land. Locations across Overton County come into focus as patterns emerge, offering listeners a rare look at ongoing Bigfoot activity rather than a single encounter.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big Fat Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Ginger tonight. Ginger is

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an individual from Overton County, Tennessee, and she reached out

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through the YouTube comments and then we've had quite a

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back and forth over a pre long time through email

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and other forms of communication. But I'm really excited to

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finally have Ginger on the program so she's able to

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share what she's been experiencing an extended period of time.

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But how are you doing tonight, Ginger?

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Good? How are you?

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I'm doing great. I'm just hanging out. I just got

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back from Oregon some decompressing from that, but it was

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a great time and I am happy to talk to

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you tonight. So this one's going to be maybe a

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little bit out of the ordinary. There might be a

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little bit more of a conversation in this one. Just

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Ginger and I were talking ahead of time, and that's

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a little bit more what she's comfortable with. So for

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those of you that like to hear me, just be quiet.

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It's not going to happen today. So sorry, guys, But Ginger,

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I'm going to go ahead and let you start though,

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and take us where we need to go for what's

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been going on with you and the Bigfoot in your area.

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Okay, first of all, I did not believe in Bigfoot,

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you know, most of my life. But after so much happens,

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you can't really continue to ignore it. So I moved

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here in twenty eighteen to Overton County, and before that

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I lived in the Pacific Northwest, so I was aware

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that people believed in Bigfoot. I was near Scamania County

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and that's pretty famous for it, but I didn't have

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a whole lot of things happened till coming to Tennessee.

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I'm trying to gather my saws.

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You're good. And when so you moved to Tennessee. Was

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it a thing where it kicked in right away or

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did you kind of notice some out of the ordinary

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things and then it gradually maybe it started amping up.

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Well, we put cameras up on the cabin. It was

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a rental cabin, and we noticed like orbs and things,

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and we would hear weird noises that sounded sort of

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like monkeys in the woods, at least that's how some

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other people described it. The owners of the cabin, they

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were like, they sound like monkeys, and it was like

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a generally creepy feeling. And there was a motion light

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on the barn that the owners said was always getting

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busted and they didn't know why they thought people were trespassing.

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I would notice bones on the trail and feathers and

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turtle eggs, like the shells, and we were supposed to

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keep the trail cleared. We got like a break in

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the rent for keeping up the grounds, and they hadn't

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lived there for a while, and we noticed that there

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were always little trees getting pushed down, and some trees

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would be like twisted, and we started trying to stay

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up at night and try to figure out what the

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orbs were about. But it was just a rental and

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we found property in a different part of Overton County,

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and I stayed here one night and then he was

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there by himself, my boyfriend, and he decided to stay

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up all night and try to something on camera, and

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he got like a blob with arms that was circling

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the cabin a couple times. And then I went back

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to help clean up the cabin and on finished moving things.

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And I had been putting like since weird stuff was happening.

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I didn't know what it was, but my mom taught

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me to leave offerings, so I didn't have like a

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whole lot of food there, but I would put out

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fruit bars like in the wrapper in case it rained

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on a boulder in the woods. And this place was

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on a mountain. It was probably one of the highest

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mountains because it used to have fire tower and there's

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an old mine there. I think that's where they hide,

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but I'm not sure what was I saying.

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So there's a there's a lot to unpact from from

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that all that. So first I want to ask you

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about so you heard weird noises that were similar to

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monkeys in this area. Were there any particular monkeys that

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they reminded you of.

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I'm not an expert on monkeys. It was in the

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distance too, but it was loud.

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Gotcha. So you've been leaving out food or you said

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you said offering area. Some people might call that gifting area.

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Has there been a point where you've stopped doing that

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or has that been consistent the entire time?

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Well, I'm still talking about the rental cabin.

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Oh okay.

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So I wasn't there very long, you know, got it,

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a few months. But here I gifted for probably four

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or five years straight. I just recently stopped, just for financial.

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Reasons, got it. So just to make sure on the

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on the right track. So you have the rental cabin

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where things were happening, and this is an Overton County

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and then eventually you get an actual place of your own,

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also in Overton County. Yeah, okay, gotcha.

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It's the opposite end of Overton County.

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Okay. And so a lot of weird stuff happening at

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that rental cabin. Did they ever get really close to

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the cabin? I mean you mentioned that there were you

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were capturing orbs on the camera, kind of like a

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blob with you said some appendages.

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The orbs would get like right up to the window,

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which would be like the headboard of the bed. So

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it was kind of creepy. And the blob was huge,

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and it was considering the size of the tree outside

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the cabin, it was probably like nine or ten foot,

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but it circled just out of range. Like if the

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camera weren't like constantly on that day, well at early morning,

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then it wouldn't have caught it because it was outside

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of the censor area. And the weird thing was it

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was like night vision, so everything was great, but the

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blob was sort of a greenish tint and you could

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see sort of arms moving.

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Is this anything you ever saw with your own eyes

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or just in the camera capture?

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I did not see. I was pretty creeped out in

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that place, so I kind of stayed away from the

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windows and didn't go outside. There. It's a different feeling

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than here, But I think talking to locals, there have

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been some confrontations there for decades, so I think that

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might be why they're more like that.

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And when you say confrontations, what kind of things would

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you be meaning I.

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Heard that a young bigfoot was shot. I think in

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the seventies, and then once I moved here to our farm,

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there was an old man who moved in after us,

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and he used to be a logger near the rental cabin,

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and he said a man was beaten to death and

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they never found the person who did it, but not

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a lot of people beat other people to death, fairpoint.

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Supposedly it was on that property.

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Property. Yeah, we both know, man, So I know from

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previous episodes that one part one side of Overton County

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is pretty wild and crazy or in surrounding counties on

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the west side. That's I'm going to leave that there

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and listeners can kind of use a map to figure

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that out. But yeah, over you know, I would not

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say it's crazy talk to say that we were having

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things like a person being beat to death, and it

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just seems like it's a pretty remote area in that

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county just from the research I've done, I have not

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been to the area yet. Did you ever talk to

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the owners of that rental cabin to see if they

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had experienced things like that.

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They didn't seem to be believers. They're the ones who

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said it sounded like monkeys the noise because they were there. Okay,

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during the day when that was the sound they heard.

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But they I don't know if they just didn't want

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to talk about it or if they really weren't believers.

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I mean they also there was a broken window that

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was really high up too, and they didn't stay there

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very much, but they said it was their dreaming place.

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So I don't know.

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That's interesting.

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It would come to pick berries, okay.

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Did were there any big foot that would get really

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close to that rental cabin when you were on that property?

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Yeah, they would get like fifteen or twenty feet away,

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And there was a pond maybe ye forty or fifty

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feet from the cabin, and the trail goes right near it.

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I have cats. They're a little loud, and that's I

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don't know if I should bring up any wu aspects,

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but I had a weird experience.

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I think you absolutely should if you're comfortable with it.

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Yeah, because I know people like to separate the physical

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and the paranormal, but can't be separated. So I was

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walking down the trail not very far from the cabin,

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maybe like one hundred feet, headed towards the Offering boulder

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that was probably like maybe three hundred feet away from

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the cabin down the trail. There's just one main trail

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really that was kept mode and cleared, and to the

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right there were little game trails, and I started it

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was to the right of the pond and the main trail.

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I started going off the main trail, which I never

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did because it was a creepy place. But it was

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a nice day and I was like, maybe I should

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go check out in the woods. And a bush started

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shaking to the left near the pond, maybe like ten

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or fifteen feet away from me, and I got screamed at.

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But I could see through the bush and there was

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nothing visible, and it wasn't like a ghost. I've seen

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ghosts my whole life, on and off. My mom did too,

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and ghosts, you know, they look like people, just like

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they didn't real life, and this was different, you know.

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It was just I didn't see anything, but I could

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see the ground. I could see behind there. But the

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bush was shaking and there.

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Was a scream was there so it was solid like

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you could not see you could see through the bush

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and there was nothing or was there ever anything that

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was kind of wavy like mirage ish, Like.

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I've seen the wavy mirage ish thing here but there

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it was daytime. I didn't see a shadow or anything.

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I mean, I got pretty freaked out because it was

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a very loud scream, but it kind of sounded a

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little elk, like you know that noise they make, okay,

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but very nasally. But it also had like a feminine

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like high pitchedness, So I was like, what is that? Absolutely,

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I think it's because they didn't want me to go

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down that side trail. It was trying to freak me

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out and distract me at the same time.

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Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

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Did you ever see any tracks at all on that property?

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Not there.

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I did walk down the trail, and I have to

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watch my feet all the time because I'm hyper mobile

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and I twist my ankles even just on.

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A little pebble, so I'm always watching the ground. And

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I also like rocks, so I looked for rocks, and

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on the way out there was nothing on the trail.

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But on the way back there was a feather with

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a notch cut out of it.

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Do you know what kind of feather it was?

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It looked like a bar owl, like a wing feather.

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Sure on this property? Did you ever have any visuals

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of any creatures.

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I mean some shadows, but they were at a distance.

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M okay. And sometimes I would forget to lock my

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car and I had like a fidget spinner in the door,

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and my fidget spinner was taken apart, which is weird.

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That's very weird.

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It was a brass one.

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Did you ever have did your dreams ever start to

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get affected?

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Not there?

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Not there? Okay, So that the property we're going to

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is going to get pretty crazy, huh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Less less confrontational, but more obvious.

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I want to make sure that that we that we

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finished the rental property before we go to your current

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one there. Did you end up leaving the rental property

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because of these things that were happening or was it

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for a different reason.

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No, it was because of buying the farm.

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Oh yeah, ok gotcha.

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But I was going to go back and like clean

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up the place more, and I did not want to

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go back after the screen. That was the last day

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I was there. A night after and that's when he

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got the blob.

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Circling your your boyfriend. Yeah, okay, gotcha.

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It was really not wanting to be there alone.

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Oh that was kind of the last straw for him. Yeah, yeah,

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I totally. I mean, if there's something screaming at my

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girlfriend and then I see a huge blob thing on

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my camera, I would probably be done as well. M

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any other any other weird things that you would want

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us to know about that that rental property.

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I mean there were a lot of rocks piled in

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the woods. Okay, So I don't know if it was

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like an old burial place or something. It had been

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a like, I think, like a hippie farm previously at

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some point.

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Have you ever seen I know this happens on a

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lot of hiking trails where it's they're called cairns and

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they're just kind of stacked up rocks as trail markers,

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or they were just random piles of rocks everywhere.

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Okay, these were bigger though, like maybe like forty pounds

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to sixty pound rocks. Oh really, but it looked like

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they had fallen, like they had been there a long time.

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How high up do you think they were stacked? Like

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how many huge rocks are are we talking about here?

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Not like very high at like three maybe.

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I have, but still if you've got about three forty

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to sixty pound rocks stacked on each other. I mean,

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that's that's pretty sizable. I guess that would could be

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a hippie farm thing, but that's not really my forte.

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But I don't know if they could have buried some manimals

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there or something. The trees were young trees, Okay, it

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might have been pasture at some point. There's a lot

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of logging that goes on around and they had made

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the pond. It wasn't a natural pond.

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Gotcha. When you say offering site, it was just leaving

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food there, right, nothing else going on.

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Yeah, my mom was a medicine woman in her tribe,

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and a big thing is offerings. They do tobacco offerings

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and food offerings. I might have left tobacco a few.

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Times, gotcha. So there's a a pretty sizable Native American

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influence to your heritage. Then yeah, okay, got it. Ah, Man,

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this one's gonna get pretty intense. I just have a feeling.

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So you clear out of the rental property, things get weird,

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and then you move across county. Would you say we're

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okay to start moving over to the current residents to

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start talking about that one.

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Yeah, okay, I've been here a lot longer than I

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was only the rental a few months and okay, it's

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been almost six years.

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Here are you?

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Oh wait, no, I've forgot something.

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Oh go ahead. Yeah.

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They did bring the food bar wrappers and shove them

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behind the house camera, and I think that was to

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show they knew the camera was there, and also asking

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for more food bars.

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That is really weird. That's kind of like a double

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thing there.

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They also put a shotgun shell next to the deck,

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kind of shoved there too. And we'd put food out

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for stray cats, but the cats stopped coming and it

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would disappear from in front of the camera without triggering

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the camera.

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With the cat or the cat food the cat food.

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Oh wow.

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Really, we didn't feed them a whole lot there, you know,

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we'd leave like a food bar night, So that's not

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a whole lot for them.

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Probably, yeah, I mean even for I mean you would

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guess even for a smaller one. I mean, those those

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creatures are so large the amount of calories they would need.

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Guessing that probably be like a little little type snack

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for them, kind of like how sk carpenter in the

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same state would would put a I think it was

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snicker bars, snickers bars up on trees and yeah, just

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really just really interesting stuff. But are you this is

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the question where you're welcome to declient if you want.

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Are you on the eastern side of Overton or the

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western side of Overton?

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I'd rather not say, no problem. I don't I don't

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trust that people won't try to hunt them and the

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group here is very passive and non confrontational. Sure, I

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don't want that to change.

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Yeah, absolutely, so I respect that, no problem. So yeah,

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let's uh, let's start chatting about your your current property.

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That you've been there for six years, right, Yeah, so

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when you moved in there, how how long was it

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until you started noticing that there's some really weird stuff

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happening on this property as well?

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Well, pretty quickly we started clearing brush and trees for

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fence lines and clearing trails. I mean, there were already

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large game trails here, which we thought was kind of

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weird because we didn't see a lot of deer. But

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we kind of followed those trails and cleared out the

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underbrush more to make it more park like. And that

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was pretty soon after moving here. As soon as we

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made the tiny house livable, we started on the landscaping

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and the fencing and we would notice that since we

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went down there every day, like to the creek where

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the trails were, we'd clear the trail so I don't

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trip because you know, I have to watch my feet

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and I'm hyper moval. Stuff would appear on the trail overnight,

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like trees, and sometimes like from the brush pile that

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we had cut. It'd be like thirty feet away, but

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there'd be a branch or a tree that we had

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cut put across the trail really far from where we

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left it. And trees would be bowed down behind the

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tiny house. And we cut those trees down and then

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Moore got bowed behind it.

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When you say bowed down, can you describe a little

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bit more exactly what you're you're seeing with these trees

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by the tiny house.

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Like in an arch, maybe like twenty five feet away,

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just straight back behind it. Well, a little bit of

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an angle because there's a trail also.

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Were there. So imagine we're looking at the bowed tree.

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Was there another tree that was holding the end of

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the bowed trees down or was it just bowed and

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staying there by itself?

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No, it was just staying there.

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Okay, gotcha.

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There was no twist to it or anything. It was

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just like that. And the shed was here. It's like

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a shed tiny house like ten by sixteen. The shed

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was already here and someone had previously like camped in it.

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So there were like two trees that were bowed, and

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that was before we got here, and then after we

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cut those down, they bowed another one. Oh, and there

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were different kinds of trees. The first ones were I

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think magnolia are poplar, and the second one was a

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maple I think.

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So I get it now. So you're saying there were

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bowed trees, you cut them down as part of your

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landscaping thing, and then they immediately bowed other trees, like, no,

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we want trees bowed here.

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Yeah, I think it marks where we are.

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Yeah, that is that is wild hmm.

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And they move rocks too. I think they step on them.

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They're pretty careful here about not leaving footprints, but they

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have a couple times, so I think they're moving stuff

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to step on it. And they're also moving stuff as barriers.

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After we kept clearing the trail, a giant tree went

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all the way across the creek and across the trail,

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so it was just like really hard to walk past

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that and it happened right where at the edge of

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where we had cleared an area. So I think they

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were like, Okay, you cleared that area, that's your area.

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Don't pass this, because right it was like the third tree,

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and finally it was a giant tree. So now it's

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like a bridge.

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Wow. Did you look at that tree to see if

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it looked like it had been cut or was it

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just pushed over? You could tell?

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Or I didn't because it starts on the neighbor's property

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across the creek, so we're not allowed to go over there.

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That brings up an interesting point. Have you talked to

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your neighbors about weird stuff in the area. Yeah, I

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have talked to.

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Two neighbors, neighbors on the east and west. The ones

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on the east we got the property from. They just

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cut a piece off of theirs, and none of them

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believe in Bigfoot. They like convinced themselves that something else.

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Like the ones to the east there they had half

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of their corn crop disappear overnight and they're like, it's

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a skunk or something, and I'm like, what they don't

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do that.

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I'm just like, it's something tuck.

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It just assumed it was a small critter took half

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of their crop, and they had all of their whole

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flock of chickens wiped out in one night, and only

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an organ was missing, bir check. And it wasn't like

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the whole chicken. It was just like I think it

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was the liver. But the coop was still closed.

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Wait, so you're saying just the livers of the chicken

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were taken.

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Yeah, and these were big chickens, Okay. And again they

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just like tell themselves it's an animal that did that.

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But because I've observed what happens here, I don't think

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it was an animal. And I don't know an animal

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that would do that and not leave like an entry.

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Point to the coop, right, And I was so you

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probably weren't able to I'm guessing they didn't have pictures

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of the chickens or you weren't able to see like

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was it ripped apart or you.

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See, they just brought it up casually, right, this.

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Casually big society will be right back after these messages.

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You mentioned as well that they usually seem to be

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walking on stones around the property, but there have been

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times where you've seen tracks. Is that right?

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Yeah, there were tracks down by the creek, but they

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were very faint because the ground's not good for tracks.

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And in the pasture, my cow pasture, they I'll move

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rocks and then the rocks get moved again, and it'll

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be like in a line, and it's a line that

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like I could almost walk on the rocks, you know,

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with a large stride.

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I was going to ask how far away are the

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rocks from each other?

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They're about four foot. I mean in some spots they're clustered.

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And if you stand in the spots where they're clustered,

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it has a view of the doors. Two things, because

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there's a cabin here now next to my tiny house

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where he lives because it's hard to live with a

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human being for that long, and a ten by sixteen

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tiny house that we have, you know, no tiny houses.

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I totally get it. I that would be that would

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be an interesting setup. The I want to circle back

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to the track. So for a minute, so you said

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they were really faint. Do you remember any details that

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stood out to you when you saw toe?

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The big toe seems separated.

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Really yeah, Oh wow, okay, that's cool.

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They were very wide and big. It was like it

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was like maybe one and a half or one and

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a half of my shoes in length, maybe longer, and

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probably like the same in width. I think they're known

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to be smaller here than the Northwest.

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Oh absolutely, yeah, big time. That The toe thing is

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interesting because that will happen when individuals don't wear shoes,

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Like if you can look up pictures of individuals where

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they've worn shoes or they've grown up not wearing shoes,

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and the toes will just do that naturally. Yeah, which

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is it's just kind of a cool to the side thing.

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How long would you estimate the tracks where that you saw?

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Probably like twelve inches?

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Okay, gotcha. Interesting.

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I probably should have measured it, but I didn't think

472
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:13.679
about it.

473
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:18.800
I just yeah, it's just one of those things where

474
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:21.920
like if you're not in that research or mindset, I mean,

475
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:23.800
you're just kind of trying to figure out what's going

476
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.480
on with your property. So I wouldn't say feel bad

477
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:32.840
about it. It sounds like you've alluded that there are

478
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:38.440
multiple creatures on the property, though you think, yeah.

479
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:43.360
I used to. I've had different gifting sites, and one

480
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:45.400
of them there used to be a picnic table down

481
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.880
by the creek that was here when I got the

482
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.920
property and there's a grill next to it, and I

483
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:56.920
used to put toys and stuff out there. I'd put

484
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:05.239
some brass dice and I'd set them all with one dot,

485
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:10.480
and then they'd always move a few of them and

486
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:18.559
grip them together when I'd come back, and trying to remember,

487
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:28.440
I think it was it was either always set on

488
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:35.119
three or four and then one next to it. So

489
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.199
I'm wondering if that's them telling me how many are there,

490
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:40.800
I don't know, or if it means something.

491
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:46.400
So you have multiple gifting sites where you're almost making

492
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:50.280
enrichment areas, kind of like in a zoo, where you

493
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.159
know they can play with certain things, but then you're

494
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:56.800
still also putting food in the gifting areas as well.

495
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:04.920
Yeah, I put mostly apples or eggs, and I tried

496
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:09.360
like other kinds of fruit. They don't seem to like bananas.

497
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:17.719
And I would put little wildlife figurines and the deer

498
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:26.559
one just like vanished, and I put a bell, a

499
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.480
brass bell. I put some glow in the dark stones.

500
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:36.159
I put some round stones and I would stack them

501
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:41.360
and see if they changed, and I put it's gonna

502
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:45.000
sound crazy, but I saw this lady on YouTube who

503
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:51.199
was putting bigfoot dolls out, and so I went and

504
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:55.000
I got a Chewbacca and I took like all the

505
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.159
stuff off of him to make him look more squatchy.

506
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:02.280
And I got a Barbie that was posable that looks

507
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:06.199
like me, and I changed the hair, and I got

508
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:11.199
a Ken doll that looked like him, and I would

509
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:15.559
put them out there and see if they moved them.

510
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.119
And they moved the Ken doll away and positioned the

511
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:23.360
barbie differently next to the Chewbacca.

512
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.559
What do you mean they moved the Ken doll away.

513
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:31.960
Like I had grouped them all together like holding hands,

514
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.239
like laying down on the picnic table, and they moved

515
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:39.239
the Ken doll away from the barbie and Chewbacca, and

516
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:42.760
then put the feet together like in a y, and

517
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:43.239
then put a.

518
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:49.920
Leaf there, and then they they had the doll that

519
00:39:51.039 --> 00:40:00.960
you think represents you closer to the big foot doll. Yeah,

520
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:04.760
what makes so you You've mentioned that you think you're

521
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:14.599
in a situation where it's a passive and not aggressive situation. Yeah, correct. Okay, man,

522
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:20.000
I'm just getting crazy vibes off this one. Ginger, I mean,

523
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.920
just wow, I don't know, I haven't heard the whole

524
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:24.840
story yet though, so.

525
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:30.599
There's like a lot.

526
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:36.119
I have a feeling there's a lot. What would you say,

527
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:43.639
is the is there one piece of evidence where it's like, yes,

528
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:47.159
they're definitely a bigfoot on this property, like you've had

529
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:51.719
a visual or something happened where it's like, yes, definitely

530
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.800
they are here. Is it more like a gathering of

531
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:56.000
evidence altogether?

532
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:08.639
There's helicopter. I mean, I've seen their shadows multiple times.

533
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:14.239
I've seen them like crouched behind trees and under the

534
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:24.719
shed light and crawling behind the shed and I saw

535
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:32.280
you asked me about the What I thought was if

536
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:36.119
they were like wavy, like a heat wave when you

537
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:44.239
can't see them. I've seen that right outside the shed

538
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:51.559
door after he moved out. I went out quickly and

539
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:57.480
the lights were out, so I don't think they expected it.

540
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.199
So there was just a little bit of light from

541
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:07.639
the side life and there was like a see through

542
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:15.159
sort of bigfoot child, I guess you'd say, And it

543
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:21.480
looked girly, but I was surprised and just stared at

544
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:29.559
the face and I talked in ojibway and Cherokee. I

545
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:34.519
said hello, and then I backed up and went inside.

546
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:39.639
Gotcha, did it respond at all or I guess it froze.

547
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:42.719
It froze, Okay, but it was like.

548
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:45.599
Sort of see.

549
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.280
Through ish, So it was it was see through ish,

550
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.880
but you could tell there was there must have been

551
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.639
some kind of something there that made you think that

552
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.840
it was a younger or a female.

553
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:06.960
Short okay, like maybe five foot four and a half

554
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:11.480
five foot so, really young, and I'm wondering if that's

555
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:17.639
why it wasn't good at hiding, right, cloaking, whatever you

556
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:18.239
want to call it.

557
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:23.760
Yeah, definitely, there's there's something that I just made a realization.

558
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:28.519
So you both started out in the tiny house, and

559
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:35.000
then your boyfriend moved to another residence on the property, right.

560
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:38.280
Yeah, he built a cabin. He built a cabin okay,

561
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:39.199
over the well.

562
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:45.280
Now did this happen before the doll incident or after.

563
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:47.000
After?

564
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.679
So the doll incident happened, and then your boyfriend built

565
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:55.639
another residence to stay in.

566
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:58.000
Yeah.

567
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:02.280
Do you think that was connected at all or just

568
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:03.559
a big coincidence.

569
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:08.360
I think it was a coincidence. Ok.

570
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:14.519
Gotcha. How does he feel about the activity that's on

571
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:19.480
the property.

572
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:26.400
He's been a little more freaked out. He actually here's

573
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:30.119
some more. Woo, Sorry, my cats are really loud on

574
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:30.559
if you.

575
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.519
Hear that, Oh no, it's great background noise. You're fine.

576
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:42.039
So we were clearing the back four acres to try

577
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.480
to fence it in as a separate pasture for the cows.

578
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:52.679
And he went back there by himself to get some tools.

579
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:59.719
He left, I think, and he actually heard somebody speaking

580
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:04.079
in his mind, but it was, like he said, he

581
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.880
couldn't understand what they were saying, and it sounded masculine,

582
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:13.199
and it was coming from behind the laurel thicket, like

583
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:18.559
he could tell where they were somehow. And he has

584
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:20.599
not worked on the fence since.

585
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:24.920
Does this happened recently?

586
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:27.920
That was like a year and a half ago?

587
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:30.719
Ye half ago, man.

588
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:34.000
Maybe two years ago.

589
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.760
And I mean, you guys, you guys have to do

590
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:41.320
what you do. But if I was personally in that situation,

591
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:45.719
I would not be living by myself. But I mean,

592
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:48.239
maybe the two buildings are not that far away from

593
00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:52.360
each other, but and that's up to how you guys

594
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:53.880
have everything. Of course.

595
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:57.719
Well I talked to my mom's friend, who's an elder

596
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:07.800
medicine woman, sure, and she called them ancestors and she's

597
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:17.000
coexisted with them, and my mom saw one like playing

598
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:24.840
his day during a ceremony on eres and he was

599
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:29.920
swaying to the drums. So I think I actually trust

600
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:31.039
him more than people.

601
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:33.519
Absolutely.

602
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:40.599
They like music, they have a language, they trade things.

603
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:50.559
And I've been alone in the woods many times, and

604
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:58.159
I'm comfortable here compared to the other property. So I've

605
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:04.199
wandered the woods at night, Nobody's hurt me, and I'm unarmed.

606
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.039
A lot of people feel like they need to bring

607
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:08.840
a gun in the woods. I think that's the wrong

608
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:10.719
thing to do. They're more likely to get hurt.

609
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:16.079
When you are in the woods at night walking around

610
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:21.679
by yourself. Are there are there things that you experience

611
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.400
out there that you think are related to the big

612
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.280
Foot on your property.

613
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:34.039
They'll hoot like like a bar owl, And I actually

614
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.559
have experience with bard owls, like I befriended a whole

615
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:43.119
family when I was a kid, and that's a whole

616
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:47.280
other thing. But the hoot doesn't quite sound right.

617
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.199
Can you explain that a little bit. I've heard that

618
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:55.159
from other people too, where you can tell it's it's

619
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:59.280
not an owl because there's something off about it.

620
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:04.960
It's not the normal pattern, and it'll be louder than

621
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:11.719
an owl. And they also make rooster noises. And I

622
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.400
think it was a kid that makes the rooster noises,

623
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:18.239
a kid, bigfoot, because it sounded like a strangled rooster

624
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:22.199
and it's coming from the woods where there's no roosters,

625
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:29.320
and they make coyote noises. But it's also like a

626
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:32.440
bark chatter kind of thing. It's weird.

627
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:38.760
Sure, So I have you aise a bull noise? Okay, gotcha?

628
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.199
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

629
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:01.239
Have you ever tried communicating back and forth with them

630
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:03.360
using those same types of noises?

631
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:10.199
Yeah, And I mean they'll respond to the al one

632
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:17.840
and to the cow noises. I'm wondering if it's different

633
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:23.239
individuals making the different noises. Oh. Also, they sound like

634
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:25.760
whooper wheels sometimes, but it doesn't quite sound right.

635
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.639
Sure, when you do the response is to them? How

636
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:31.519
quick back are their responses?

637
00:49:33.239 --> 00:49:37.880
It depends on the day. Sometimes they're really quick and

638
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:41.559
sometimes they're not.

639
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.840
I've been in situations really similar similar to that, where

640
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:50.280
there'll be a communication back and forth and they will

641
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:55.280
start communicating in what seemed like half a second back.

642
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:02.239
It's it is a very very interesting situation. But I

643
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:04.039
know exactly what you were talking about.

644
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.440
I got a lot of interaction when my mom was here.

645
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:15.760
You know, she was a medicine woman, but she had dementia,

646
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:20.199
so she was out here for a little while, and

647
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.079
she got an RV, a new one, and parked it

648
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.840
out here. So I had to live in there with

649
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.039
her because she would be scared if she was left

650
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.119
alone for more than ten minutes, right because she didn't

651
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:37.280
know where she was or what was happening. And I

652
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:42.519
would hear gravel crunching, like near the hitch because I

653
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.400
was in the bedroom, because she wanted to sleep on

654
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:51.920
the couch bed near the TV. And so I would

655
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.719
like open up the window and look out and I

656
00:50:54.760 --> 00:51:00.840
would stop hearing crunching, and every night there'd be like

657
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:09.039
a slap and the whole thing would rock and again.

658
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:19.719
I usually say hello, and and Ojibway and Cherokee, and

659
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:29.440
I think they're not afraid of women. So they interacted

660
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:35.239
a lot, and I would leave the since she watched

661
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:38.519
my mom watched TV like constantly when she was inside

662
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:40.960
at night, and I would leave the shade up for

663
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:45.119
a while so that if they wanted to watch TV,

664
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:52.440
they could, and I would find like the grass sort

665
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:57.480
of padded down in spots that were like body size

666
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:03.119
for a large body, and if I went and squatted there,

667
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:06.719
I could see the TV perfectly, so I think they

668
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:11.159
liked that. And there were speakers on the RV and

669
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:16.199
I would play pow wow music and my mom would

670
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:23.440
go around playing her drums around the driveway and doing

671
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.559
her dancing, because even when she completely lost it, she

672
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:34.000
still remembered that and it calmed her. And I think

673
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:37.280
they probably liked that music too, since they did at

674
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:42.480
the ceremonies when she saw a big male she said

675
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:45.360
he was about twelve feet tall and he was swaying

676
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:50.000
back and forth. She said it seemed like he liked

677
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:56.559
the drums, but nobody else saw him. But everybody was, like,

678
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.239
you know, doing prmonial stuff. And she had just come

679
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.559
out of the house to go back to the group

680
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.400
and he was behind the shed. So I don't think

681
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:10.679
anybody else had that angle.

682
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:13.599
Absolutely.

683
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:24.679
But my mom could see orbs with her eyes. You know,

684
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:28.079
a lot of people only catch them on camera. I

685
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:32.079
can't see orbs, but I've seen ghosts. She could see

686
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:36.599
ghosts and orbs, so I don't know if the bigfoot

687
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:40.840
was cloaking and she could still see him, or if

688
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.119
he was just visible because it was daytime and he

689
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.039
was just standing behind the shed. She said he was

690
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:50.039
about as tall as the shed.

691
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:52.440
Would your mother ever say what color the orbs were

692
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:53.239
that she was seeing?

693
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:56.760
I never asked her what color?

694
00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:57.280
Okay?

695
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:01.000
She said it looked like they were playing going through

696
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:09.440
the woods, like zooming in and out and around each other.

697
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:10.840
It was like groups of.

698
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:16.199
Orbs on your property. Do you ever so we've talked

699
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:20.960
about there's been mimic animal and bird sounds things like that.

700
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.360
Do you ever hear sounds of things that really just

701
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:29.239
do not fit that would not be mimic sounds of

702
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.000
animals or birds.

703
00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:40.920
They've impersonated my boyfriend multiple times. The voice, yeah, like perfectly.

704
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:50.760
The neighbor kid actually thought my boyfriend was calling him

705
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:54.000
from the woods, but he was here with me.

706
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:57.239
So I want to make sure I get that right.

707
00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:02.519
So when they impersonate your boyfriend's they're calling other people

708
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:04.400
to come into the woods.

709
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:08.880
Yeah, a little boy, he was like probably ten.

710
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:12.079
Then did they ever try to call you to go

711
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:13.760
into the woods?

712
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:17.960
They did lure me into the woods. Well, A couple times.

713
00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:23.400
But once I thought I was following my boyfriend, and

714
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:26.599
in my head I heard him say, let's go down

715
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:31.280
this way. We never went down that trail and we

716
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.719
were doing landscaping stuff, and like in my head I

717
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:39.199
heard him say, let's go down the creek now, but

718
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:43.280
let's go this way. So I went down that way.

719
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:47.400
I thought I was following him, and when I got

720
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:51.960
down there, he wasn't down there. And then I came

721
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.079
back up and I was like, why didn't you come

722
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:55.719
down here? You said you were going down this way,

723
00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:59.599
and he was like, no, I didn't. He was still

724
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:01.119
doing yardwork.

725
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:09.320
Okay, so you have you have a situation where they've

726
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:12.159
expressed to you that they want the two of you separated,

727
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.079
and then the two of you are separated, and then

728
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:21.840
they have mimic your boyfriend's voice in order to get

729
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:26.039
you to lure you into a certain area. Correct.

730
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:29.320
Yeah, But once I was down there, like nothing.

731
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.880
Happened, Okay, gotcha.

732
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:38.800
And I have followed, like when my dogs have been outside.

733
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:45.039
I have three big dogs. I have followed hurt dog

734
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:50.519
noises into the woods, like extreme yelping, thinking my dogs

735
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:55.079
were hurt twice, And when I got down there, there

736
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:55.840
was nothing there.

737
00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:03.559
Do you ever hear baby crying noises in the woods? No, okay, that's.

738
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:10.480
Voices, like but I can't tell what it is. And

739
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:15.280
he hears a lot of like chatter and voices and

740
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:20.280
weird noises that freak him out like three in the morning,

741
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:25.559
and he'll call me and wake me up. I don't

742
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:27.400
know if you want me to talk about that.

743
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.400
Yeah, I absolutely would would love it. Yeah, go ahead.

744
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:39.119
So his cabin is it has like a slanted shed roof.

745
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:42.119
It's pretty flat. It's almost like a deck up there,

746
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:49.920
but it's probably like eighteen feet up on the low side,

747
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:56.360
and it's built with like these big beams, six by

748
00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:01.960
six beams. They logged here and he and the neighbor

749
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:08.039
and made their own beams and wood for building the

750
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:11.840
whole thing. And it's on a big concrete pad and

751
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:19.519
rock wall. And when he hears something on the roof,

752
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:25.159
it like makes those giant beams creak and he's ocd.

753
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:28.000
So he gets really angry that something's on his roof

754
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:33.920
because obviously they're not gonna know where to step, and

755
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:37.960
he's worried it's making the glue mess up and it's

756
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:44.239
gonna bend the metal, so he'll like open the window

757
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:50.760
and yell out. In one night, he heard like a thump,

758
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:53.000
but he said it was like a really deep thump,

759
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:56.920
like if you threw a cinder block from like six

760
00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:01.119
feet up. So he thinks that big thump was them

761
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:06.039
jumping off, he said, but one stayed up there, so

762
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:07.079
there were two up there.

763
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:11.559
Has anything ever tried to enter any of the buildings

764
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:12.519
that you have there?

765
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:21.519
Before he moved into the cabin, the door knob was

766
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:27.079
messed up, and he thinks they might have done it.

767
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:32.199
Like for a while, he just left it open, and

768
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:35.599
then he started wondering if they would go in there,

769
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.079
so he started locking it. And the first time he

770
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:43.559
locked it, like the door knob was like loose. And

771
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:46.519
again because he's OCD, he was really angry about that.

772
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.880
So it sounds like, so you had it locked and

773
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.239
it's almost like someone tried to force it open, but

774
00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:59.119
you said it was loose, all loose, okay.

775
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:02.519
Wow, like like the would move around in a circle.

776
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:10.119
And before that cabin was built there, it was a

777
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:15.599
well house. It was like a not very well built one.

778
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:19.000
It was like cedar posts. The seer posts were nice,

779
01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:22.599
but then it was like plywood or something. And then

780
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:30.079
we tore that down and had stock panels like round

781
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:34.760
pin panels with a arch tent over it, and then

782
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:40.920
a box over the well part, and I had a

783
01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:44.480
camp mirror hanging up there, just on one of the

784
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.599
round pin panels. It was like a metal camp mirror.

785
01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:53.840
And I noticed one day that there were fingerprints all

786
01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:59.840
over it. But the fingerprints were huge, way bigger than

787
01:00:59.880 --> 01:01:04.840
my fingers, and I was like, wow, they have normal

788
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:14.599
fingerprints ers big. So I think they like mirrors, which

789
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:19.159
kind of makes sense because like chimpanzees and gorillas like

790
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:19.840
mirrors too.

791
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:24.239
Right. Do the dogs you mentioned you have a few

792
01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:28.639
dogs out there. Do they ever act weird or anything

793
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:29.000
like that?

794
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:36.239
Yes, there's these spots which are like, you know, places

795
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:39.800
where I've seen shadows before, and like good hiding spots

796
01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:43.960
where you can see doors and windows and things. And

797
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:48.840
my live stock guard dog she goes to these spots

798
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.880
in every time I walk by them, every time I

799
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:55.119
walk her by them, and she starts to dig there

800
01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:58.280
and sniff and dig, and I'm like, why do you

801
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:01.599
have to do that? Every day? And if I walk

802
01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:08.119
her at night, which I don't do anymore, she'll just

803
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:16.840
stop and stare off and sniff, and some one night

804
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:20.159
she or a couple of nights she like would go

805
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:25.400
to a spot and just lay down and hide, and

806
01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:27.239
I'm like, we're supposed to be going potty and then

807
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:32.280
getting back inside because it's dark, because you know, I've

808
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:35.599
I listen to a lot of stories to learn more,

809
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:39.360
and you occasionally hear one of dogs with their heads

810
01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:40.880
ripped off, So I don't really want.

811
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:43.719
My dogs outside big for society will be right back

812
01:02:43.760 --> 01:03:05.519
after these messages. Yeah, no, definitely, you sometimes have those.

813
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:10.440
Those things happen. Fortunately, it sounds like you're in a

814
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:15.440
situation where you feel that you're more safe instead of

815
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:17.440
under a threat.

816
01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:22.119
I've actually wondered if they've befriended one of my dogs,

817
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:26.280
because she'll come back smelling weird and a little skunky

818
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:30.840
and with a bone and really happy, like she just

819
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:33.719
got cuddles, because she gets a smile on her face

820
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:38.599
when she gets attention, and it's just like if she

821
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:42.159
met a stranger, that's the same look on her face

822
01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:50.639
and she's brought back like skulls and stuff.

823
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:53.559
What kind of skulls?

824
01:03:56.679 --> 01:04:03.039
A pig skull and a deer skull and oh, one

825
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:07.239
night we heard wait, no, it was daytime.

826
01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:08.559
We heard.

827
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:18.199
A scream, and then some deer ran across the pasture

828
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:21.960
towards the screen though, which didn't make sense to me.

829
01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:31.159
So there's not a lot of deer. Somehow they've found

830
01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:39.280
deer here, right. I think they're fairly comfortable here because

831
01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:46.159
they you know, they'll make noises, and they've left gifts

832
01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:52.400
like a marble and some metal weights, and for some reason, turtles,

833
01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:56.199
probably because they probably see me releasing adult turtles, so

834
01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:58.599
they keep leaving baby turtles on the doorstep.

835
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:05.960
It sounds like in this particular area they are able

836
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:12.800
to really affect the living creatures that live on this area,

837
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:19.880
everything from your dog to the neighbor kid, to both

838
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:24.679
of you, to maybe even the deer. It's just it's

839
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:27.079
very it's a very interesting situation.

840
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:37.440
And this is land where a previous neighbor that passed

841
01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:44.800
away he saw some what he thinks for Cherokee spirits,

842
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:54.920
and I don't know if that's common.

843
01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:02.719
I don't know if that's an overly common thing. Well,

844
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:05.559
I don't know, maybe for that area, But do you

845
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:08.599
think there is there possibility there could be burial grounds

846
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:10.559
on that property?

847
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:14.880
I think there are because there's these weird boulders that

848
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:20.239
are like karens like you'd see in Ireland. Yeah, and

849
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:25.039
they're covered in ferns like I could fit under them,

850
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:30.079
like crawling them, and they don't look right like they're square.

851
01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:40.559
I haven't like called anybody out to assess them because

852
01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:42.199
I don't think they should be disturbed.

853
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:43.960
I wouldn't recommend it.

854
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:48.360
No, I don't want anything to disappear nor get moved.

855
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:55.239
Yeah, I would say probably leave stuff the way it

856
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:59.440
is the most you can. I mean, I know there's

857
01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:03.039
already been some landscaping work, but like I if that

858
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:06.199
was my property, I wouldn't go moving around stuff like that.

859
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:14.480
They're pretty obvious about where they don't want us to

860
01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:20.079
go because they keep moving trees. But with the cairns,

861
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:23.960
it feels like a place where you don't want to walk.

862
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:31.199
So I've piled like brush piles around it in like

863
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:34.360
a fence sort of area, and I even have like

864
01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:39.960
a I call it the fairy tree, like they do

865
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:46.159
at sacred sites in Ireland. I put like jewelry on

866
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:49.960
it in case they like that it's like big stones,

867
01:07:54.119 --> 01:08:00.559
but to try to mark the area for like so

868
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:03.719
everyone knows not to go there, and I tell my

869
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.360
family if they visit, not to really walk around there.

870
01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:11.760
Yeah, I would say that is a definitely good idea.

871
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:15.079
I mean, that's a situation where you wouldn't want people

872
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:18.199
coming in that weren't respectful to the area, and then

873
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:20.720
they go messing stuff up, and then you would have

874
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:23.600
to be the people that deal with that and live

875
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:26.760
with that situation, like if there's any fallout from it,

876
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:27.119
you know.

877
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:33.600
And there's a spot near the cow pasture where the

878
01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.560
trees are sort of in a circle and there's like

879
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:44.039
a clearing and there's a big pile of like trees.

880
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:48.840
It's like a giant brush pile, but there's like a

881
01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:54.279
hollow spot underneath. But I haven't really gone into it

882
01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:56.880
because I don't want to. I don't think it's good.

883
01:08:56.720 --> 01:09:02.079
Any Sure, do you ever hear wood knocks on your

884
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:02.840
property at all?

885
01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:14.600
Yes? I don't really notice them a whole lot anymore

886
01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:18.159
because it happens so much. Sure, but there's also I mean,

887
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.079
I'm in the country, so there's also a lot of gunshots,

888
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:28.760
equipment noises, so it's hard to tell what is them

889
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:32.319
and what is a neighbor being loud?

890
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:37.520
Right? Have you ever noticed if there's anywhere you're pretty

891
01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:41.880
sure there are are there weird patterns to when they happen.

892
01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:50.399
I haven't noticed, Okay, I probably need to take better notes.

893
01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:58.319
I do notice they're more active when it's really dark,

894
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:03.800
like a new moon. But also we've started turning the

895
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:07.640
lights out at night, and I think they're more comfortable

896
01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:12.000
because they've been messing with his house more. Since then,

897
01:10:12.119 --> 01:10:13.840
he's like turned the lights back on.

898
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:19.640
So explain what you mean by they've been messing with

899
01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:22.840
the house more. Is that stuff we've already talked about,

900
01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:25.479
or there is there more stuff happening now that you've

901
01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:26.760
been turning the lights off.

902
01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:35.640
He's heard more like voices outside close to like there's

903
01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:39.399
the cow fence maybe like five feet from his cabin,

904
01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:43.319
so they're like walking in between the cow fins and

905
01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:47.319
the cabin on that side, and that's where he hears

906
01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:50.840
the voices from. And there's like a window, but the

907
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:54.119
windows like probably twelve feet up or more.

908
01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:58.640
So he hears the voices within five feet of his

909
01:10:58.760 --> 01:10:59.560
cabin that night.

910
01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:02.600
Yeah, that's why it gets freaked out.

911
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:07.760
Yeah, here's I'm I want to ask it, like is

912
01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:11.119
he okay? Like that that would be really hard to

913
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:12.319
deal with. I think.

914
01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:16.159
I try to talk him down.

915
01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:22.399
Yeah, freaked out? Oh yeah, absolutely. Have you guys ever

916
01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:30.640
heard the Sierra sounds before? Probably it's it's usually described

917
01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:35.439
as like like it sounds like a foreign language. It

918
01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:37.960
would be interesting for him to listen to that. You

919
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:40.680
can find it on YouTube and to see if that's

920
01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:43.960
similar to what he's hearing or if it's something completely different.

921
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:46.840
I'll tell him to do that.

922
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:48.720
Yeah, I would be interested.

923
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:52.840
Was trying to record sounds and the best he got

924
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:56.279
was like a kind of thing.

925
01:11:57.039 --> 01:11:59.960
Well, that's incredible. So he is trying to record stuff.

926
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:05.039
That would be really interested interesting to see what he records.

927
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:10.039
He thinks they can tell when he's doing it.

928
01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:15.279
M h no, I agree one hundred percent, because.

929
01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:17.399
It gets quiet when he does it. Yep.

930
01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:22.560
And I don't get it either, but I have experienced

931
01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:26.039
it in person where when the recording stuff goes off,

932
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:30.520
that's when the stuff happens, and I don't get it.

933
01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:34.800
Also, one time I was down at the creek and

934
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:38.319
I used to carry walkie talkies around in case something

935
01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:43.520
happened when I was by myself, and one time I

936
01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:47.920
had just charged the walkie talkie and it completely drained

937
01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:51.359
in like a minute, and so I went back up,

938
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:55.600
but it never happened again. I mean I stopped bringing

939
01:12:55.640 --> 01:13:00.479
it down there. I don't know if that that's a

940
01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:01.359
common thing or not.

941
01:13:03.399 --> 01:13:08.000
Now that's extremely common thing reported by Bigfoot researchers that

942
01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:13.159
their batteries will just go down to zero all of

943
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:17.960
a sudden, Just a weird thing that seems to be

944
01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:21.560
associated with Bigfoot research and people that are in areas

945
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:27.600
with heavy activity, the camera batteries and their audio recorder

946
01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:31.439
batteries will just go down real hard for a while.

947
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:38.199
The gate camera battery had to be replaced unusually often too.

948
01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:41.399
And it's near the neighbor's pond.

949
01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:54.159
Gotcha, man, this is a really intense one. And this

950
01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:59.520
has been happening for the last six years. You said, yeah, wow.

951
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:09.720
It's been like a little different since stopping gifting. You know,

952
01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:17.239
like they don't seem to come around my place as much.

953
01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:21.840
They seem to be messing with him a lot.

954
01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:26.880
That's really interesting because a lot of times when you

955
01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:31.359
hear that the individuals stop gifting, that can sometimes create

956
01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:34.600
a negative response where they're like, Okay, where's the food?

957
01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:43.560
You know, sorry, my fan just turned on. I don't

958
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:49.720
know why it turned on itself, but sorry, what were

959
01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:50.000
you saying?

960
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:53.199
Yes, I was saying that sometimes when you're in a

961
01:14:53.239 --> 01:14:56.720
situation where the individual stops gifting, then that can even

962
01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:59.520
create a negative response from them. But it sounds like

963
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:01.760
in this that's really not the case.

964
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:07.239
Yeah. I think they like joking with us, like we're entertainment.

965
01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:11.479
Maybe gotcha. So maybe it's like if your boyfriend is

966
01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:14.800
freaking out more, they might be getting more entertainment from that.

967
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:17.560
Yeah. I think they like messing with them.

968
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:21.760
He's he might he listened to this and be like, yeah,

969
01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:23.359
it's not funny.

970
01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:26.760
I think they like to show their bravery by messing

971
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:29.880
with them. Yeah, right, I think it's the young ones.

972
01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:35.560
Yeah, it's they're like they're like test into adulthood. Is

973
01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:36.680
messing with your boyfriend?

974
01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:42.199
Oh and another weird like woo thing. The one time

975
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:47.000
I really saw their shadows clearly, like close up. I

976
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:48.279
went to sleep right away.

977
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:53.199
After, like of your own control or it just happened.

978
01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:57.079
I just laid back and went to sleep. And I

979
01:15:57.119 --> 01:15:57.920
don't know why.

980
01:15:58.239 --> 01:15:59.079
It's really weird.

981
01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:04.880
That was when they were crawling behind the shed, so

982
01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:08.319
and I had just burned stage so I think the

983
01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:09.600
smell might have brought them in.

984
01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:14.800
Oh boy, so you mentioned the crawling thing earlier. So

985
01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:17.000
you've actually seen them crawling or is it more you

986
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:18.479
see like a shadow crawling.

987
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:24.279
It's like deep shadows, deep shadows. And that was probably

988
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:27.840
like four or five of them in different.

989
01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:30.319
Sizes, crawling all together.

990
01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:36.039
Like it looked like two of them were standing further back,

991
01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:41.000
and then some were crawling towards the shed. There's also

992
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:48.319
an outdoor kitchen right there, like under a a tin thing,

993
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:55.239
and the trash gets rated a lot. They also take

994
01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:58.680
stickers from the burn pile that are holographic and put

995
01:16:58.720 --> 01:16:59.359
them places.

996
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:02.159
Ask you a question, and I don't want it to

997
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:06.000
come across as I'm just going to ask it and

998
01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:08.800
I just want you to receive it in the most

999
01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:15.520
positive way. How are there any times where you were

1000
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:20.039
under the influence of anything or you pretty much a

1001
01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:24.199
person like myself where you're not under the influence of

1002
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:26.239
a lot of things.

1003
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:31.680
I have a lot of allergies to things like even alcohol.

1004
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:35.199
The yeast in it makes me sick, gotcha, So I'll

1005
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:40.920
like throw up from it. And I've actually when I

1006
01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:47.840
lived in Washington, I became allergic to weed. I guess

1007
01:17:47.920 --> 01:17:52.880
I used it too much there, but I have a

1008
01:17:52.880 --> 01:17:55.960
genetic condition where I can't take very much of it.

1009
01:17:56.039 --> 01:17:58.920
Also I process it too fast.

1010
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:02.960
So you're saying in this in this area, you're really

1011
01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:08.520
not messing with anything. Now, Oh wow, okay, that, I mean,

1012
01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:12.479
that's good to know. Though you are pretty much sober

1013
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:15.880
all the time and experiencing all this stuff.

1014
01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:19.760
And the only medicine I take is from that one. Gotcha?

1015
01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:23.359
Yeah, so that doesn't it doesn't matter. Hmmm.

1016
01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:27.720
Wow.

1017
01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:33.119
This is really a really interesting one. Big for society

1018
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:51.600
will be right back after these messages. Do you have

1019
01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:53.560
any dog man activity in this area?

1020
01:18:56.760 --> 01:19:03.920
I've heard of some like north of here, yep. I

1021
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:09.279
don't know what the signs for that would be. I

1022
01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:13.279
have seen a large dog footprint, but it could have

1023
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:17.600
been a wolf. I don't know. I feel like dog

1024
01:19:17.640 --> 01:19:20.039
man would be way bigger than that, or I don't

1025
01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:21.920
know if they I don't know what their feet look like.

1026
01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:26.319
I mean, I can say that there are neighboring counties

1027
01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:30.359
of this area where there's a heavy presence, where there's

1028
01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:35.760
actually like visuals, and that's really the most I can

1029
01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:39.319
get into that. But I was just I was just

1030
01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:41.880
curious if there was any of that happening on your

1031
01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:43.960
property since you're in Overton County.

1032
01:19:44.039 --> 01:19:47.119
But I do wonder because of all the bark chatter.

1033
01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:49.119
Bark chatter.

1034
01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:54.359
Yeah, like I don't know if they co exist together,

1035
01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:57.279
but like there's a lot of bark chatter if that.

1036
01:19:57.359 --> 01:20:00.800
Means So is that like you're hearing language, but you're

1037
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:02.600
also hearing barking at the same time.

1038
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:07.960
Yeah, okay, and it's like loud from the woods. But

1039
01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:10.760
I don't know if like the bigfoot make those noises

1040
01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:16.960
or not. I've never researched dogmen a lot.

1041
01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:20.319
Yeah, you know, I know what to look for. It's

1042
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:23.399
not really my thing either, But as it turns out,

1043
01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:27.119
there are multiple places in the country where there's actually

1044
01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:33.680
groups that are interacting. There's dog man and bigfoot interacting

1045
01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:35.920
with each other. So it just starts to come out

1046
01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:40.920
in certain things that I talk to people about. So

1047
01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:45.039
I've kind of picked up stuff on the side. Do

1048
01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:47.079
you ever hear whoops on your property at all?

1049
01:20:55.720 --> 01:21:02.279
Not specifically whoops? I think they're here compared to the

1050
01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:08.079
other ones. There's a lot of ex military people here

1051
01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:13.039
that are like armed to the teeth, So I think

1052
01:21:13.079 --> 01:21:17.279
that's why they move things to step on, and they

1053
01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:21.239
make animal noises or people voices to not be obvious

1054
01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:23.119
other than the bark chatter.

1055
01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:27.560
So are you talking about like there's ex military people

1056
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:32.359
like in your neighboring vicinity that kind of thing.

1057
01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:36.720
Like three out of four neighboring properties or ex military?

1058
01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:41.439
Oh wow, okay, well that's cool. Do they ever do

1059
01:21:41.640 --> 01:21:48.039
mimic noises for mechanical devices like lawnmowers or anything? I thought,

1060
01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:50.319
I have.

1061
01:21:50.239 --> 01:21:50.800
Not heard that.

1062
01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:52.119
Okay, gotcha.

1063
01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:57.399
They have set off the car alarm really at night

1064
01:21:57.960 --> 01:21:59.319
and left a handprint.

1065
01:22:00.520 --> 01:22:03.680
How do you think or how do you know that

1066
01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:06.159
it was probably them that had set off the car.

1067
01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:10.520
Alarm because we went out to look with a flashlight

1068
01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:12.680
and there was a really big handprint on it.

1069
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:15.439
Oh so you think maybe slap the car?

1070
01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:26.159
I think they were squatting and then I don't know.

1071
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:29.279
It was like the spot where the handprint was, it

1072
01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:32.319
looked like if a big person was, like a really

1073
01:22:32.359 --> 01:22:34.840
really big person was squatting and put their hand on

1074
01:22:34.920 --> 01:22:37.479
the car. And then I don't know if they were

1075
01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:41.640
trying to open it. Since the ones at the other

1076
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:44.760
property got in my car, it was.

1077
01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:50.279
His car though, was there any material that was left

1078
01:22:50.399 --> 01:22:57.520
with the handprint, like a waxy substance or anything?

1079
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:01.319
I thought, I mean, it seemed like a really dirty hand.

1080
01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:02.399
Maybe, gotcha?

1081
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:05.319
How it was an obvious handprint?

1082
01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:10.680
Okay, if you had to give like rough dimensions of

1083
01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:14.640
of what it looked like, how big a hand could

1084
01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:18.159
you describe it? As?

1085
01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:21.800
It seemed like a couple inches longer than our hands.

1086
01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:24.600
But I don't know what position the hand was in

1087
01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:25.680
when it made it.

1088
01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:28.520
Sure, gotcha.

1089
01:23:31.439 --> 01:23:34.439
And there were also different sizes of hands, like maybe

1090
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:38.079
the kids hiding behind the cargo.

1091
01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:40.640
Trailer, so multiple hands, which.

1092
01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:41.680
Was further back from the.

1093
01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:43.920
Shed from that multiple handprints left.

1094
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:51.439
Yeah. Wow, And we've found handprints multiple times on the

1095
01:23:51.479 --> 01:23:53.920
cargo trailer. I guess it's a good hiding spot.

1096
01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:56.000
Yeah.

1097
01:23:56.039 --> 01:24:00.880
And there's a there's a a frame thing that has

1098
01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:06.920
wood stacked up next to the shed and there's a

1099
01:24:07.039 --> 01:24:13.840
tarp as a roof, and about it my eye level,

1100
01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:17.600
there's a hole in the tarp like a like if

1101
01:24:17.640 --> 01:24:20.840
somebody poked a hole in it. Through that hole, you

1102
01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:24.840
can see the shed door. Oh my goodness, there's both

1103
01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:27.319
the ends of the a frame are open, so you can.

1104
01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:29.439
Just walk into it, but.

1105
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:36.359
It's like a good Heidi spot. Oh, and there's a

1106
01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:42.319
there's like a body sized ditch in the cow pasture

1107
01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:48.239
and it's also a good spot for looking out, or

1108
01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:50.159
it was until the trees grew up, and now it

1109
01:24:50.239 --> 01:24:53.079
started to fill in with erosion and it hasn't been

1110
01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:56.840
dung back out. And there's a rock in it for

1111
01:24:56.960 --> 01:25:00.279
like sitting on I guess okay, And a lot of

1112
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:04.000
the rock trails go towards that and then into the clearing.

1113
01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:07.760
Have you ever been gifted any dead animals?

1114
01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:14.039
Yes, but I can't tell if that's the cats or not.

1115
01:25:14.960 --> 01:25:18.359
Sometimes they would have they would not have a head.

1116
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:21.760
I guess that could be cats too. But there was

1117
01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:26.880
a rat, a rat maybe like bigger animals than a

1118
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:28.159
cat would usually leave.

1119
01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:37.439
There was a possum, and trying to think, I mean,

1120
01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:41.560
there were the live turtles that was weird. There was

1121
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:43.239
a snapping turtle and a box turtle.

1122
01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:48.840
What you're saying, you're saying there was a possum left

1123
01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:49.479
without a head.

1124
01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:52.119
No, the possum had a head.

1125
01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:54.039
Oh okay, but it was it was dead and left

1126
01:25:54.079 --> 01:25:55.479
like at your doorstep or whatever.

1127
01:25:56.199 --> 01:26:02.079
Yeah, okay, So it's kind of hard to tell what

1128
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:04.479
is animals and what is them?

1129
01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:07.199
Was its neck broken or anything?

1130
01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:10.039
I didn't check.

1131
01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:14.279
I gotcha. What's the most recent thing that's happened on

1132
01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:20.800
your property?

1133
01:26:22.279 --> 01:26:24.760
Probably the roof stuff on.

1134
01:26:24.800 --> 01:26:32.159
His cabin, not just within the last few days or

1135
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:32.960
weeks or.

1136
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:44.359
Probably weeks. Man. I mean, it's pretty normal to go

1137
01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:47.079
outside and hear an animal noise right when you open

1138
01:26:47.159 --> 01:26:51.880
the door. And then I've heard whistles too.

1139
01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:55.439
Oh really okay, So so you're going outside and you're

1140
01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:57.119
hearing whistles right away.

1141
01:26:59.319 --> 01:27:07.359
Yeah, I've heard that twice. I whistle back, don't don't

1142
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:07.800
do it.

1143
01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:11.600
I did that and it was a bad That was

1144
01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:16.479
a bad mistake in Iowa. I think I I contributed

1145
01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:21.119
to some bad things happening because of that. Also, I

1146
01:27:21.319 --> 01:27:24.319
just I mean, you're aware of what to do and

1147
01:27:24.359 --> 01:27:30.600
not what to do, but you can you never know

1148
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:37.600
how they will interpret stuff, right. But mm hmm.

1149
01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:42.279
Some nights when I get creeped out, I'll lock the

1150
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:45.479
door with a with a stick through the handles because

1151
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:48.119
it's like a shed door, and I put some big

1152
01:27:48.159 --> 01:27:51.920
gate handles on just to like reinforce in case they

1153
01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:55.439
do try to get in. Because it's the the knobs

1154
01:27:55.520 --> 01:28:01.279
not that great, but if they wanted to get in here,

1155
01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:02.840
they could and they haven't tried.

1156
01:28:03.159 --> 01:28:05.119
Well, I mean that's the thing. It's like, it doesn't

1157
01:28:05.159 --> 01:28:08.560
matter what kind of of place that you have, which

1158
01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:12.520
this isn't really comforting to people listening, but I mean

1159
01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:16.560
at the end of the day, like they are able

1160
01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:19.039
to pretty much break down most anything.

1161
01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:26.000
But oh and I have another not visible bigfoot story

1162
01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:30.760
from it. So when the RV was there and I

1163
01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:33.920
was living there with my mom, my boyfriend would come

1164
01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:37.119
occasionally and like hang out there and talk with us.

1165
01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:42.119
And one time he was walking there and then something

1166
01:28:42.319 --> 01:28:45.079
was like five feet away in the tall grass to

1167
01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:52.319
the left of the RV door, and obviously him walking

1168
01:28:52.399 --> 01:28:55.640
up scared it, and it got up and took off,

1169
01:28:56.880 --> 01:29:00.239
and so he freaked out and took off, running into

1170
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:03.520
the r V and it was like cussing, and I

1171
01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:08.000
was like, what what is happening? And he was like

1172
01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:13.800
he just ran in and shut the door. Man.

1173
01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:17.279
I mean, more power to him, because that guy's living

1174
01:29:17.279 --> 01:29:22.000
through some stuff. I can't see how he is still there,

1175
01:29:22.079 --> 01:29:25.199
but that's they have traumatized him. Yeah, good for him

1176
01:29:25.239 --> 01:29:33.520
for sticking around. I'm going to there is a park

1177
01:29:33.640 --> 01:29:39.560
in Overton. You mentioned there. You might have some accounts

1178
01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:40.680
that relate to that area.

1179
01:29:42.439 --> 01:29:46.239
Yeah, I talked to somebody who was watching over the

1180
01:29:46.279 --> 01:29:51.720
park working there. It's like a RV kind of park

1181
01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:55.000
where people do off road vehicles to.

1182
01:29:55.680 --> 01:29:58.880
Oh okay, so I was I was referring to there's

1183
01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:01.359
a state park, but so you're saying it's r V

1184
01:30:01.520 --> 01:30:06.840
park as well. Oh yeah, okay, sorry, go ahead.

1185
01:30:08.720 --> 01:30:15.760
This one's closer to me than the rental place. And

1186
01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:18.479
I was talking to a guy who was staying there

1187
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:24.159
for the season, and he found a footprint on one

1188
01:30:24.199 --> 01:30:29.720
of the covered picnic areas, and so we went there

1189
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:34.760
to hike down to it, and it was an extreme

1190
01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:37.479
sort of holler and we were not prepared for that

1191
01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:45.279
and almost didn't get back till till dark, and I

1192
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:48.640
was really freaked out. It was not good vibes there.

1193
01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:54.840
It was sort of worse than the rental property. I'm

1194
01:30:55.439 --> 01:31:01.680
I can feel like energy vibess, like you know, I don't,

1195
01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:04.680
I don't know how to explain it. That's like the mouth.

1196
01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:13.560
But there there's caves there in a waterfall, and one

1197
01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:18.359
of the caves had like a solar panel to power

1198
01:31:19.439 --> 01:31:22.880
the lights. I don't even know how that solar panel

1199
01:31:22.920 --> 01:31:25.840
worked because this haller is so deep, like the sun

1200
01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:31.800
didn't seem to shine there. And the people there said

1201
01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:37.399
the solar panel had rocks thrown at it. They were like,

1202
01:31:37.439 --> 01:31:39.399
some kids threw rocks at it and broke it. But

1203
01:31:39.640 --> 01:31:44.600
it's a cave. It's a huge cave, and I think

1204
01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:47.560
that was their cave and they didn't want lights in it,

1205
01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:51.199
so they broke the solar panel. Now, people don't really

1206
01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:52.760
go in there unless they have a flashlight, and not

1207
01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:56.760
a lot of people bring a flashlight. But I left.

1208
01:31:59.640 --> 01:32:03.720
I love the food gift down there because I accidentally

1209
01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:07.359
picked up a box turtle shell and then afterwards I

1210
01:32:07.359 --> 01:32:10.119
got the feeling that maybe they were that was theirs

1211
01:32:10.159 --> 01:32:12.039
and they were marking something with it, so I put

1212
01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:15.680
it back and felt bad because they were like bowed

1213
01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:21.159
trees and stuff. That whole place flooded, really, so I

1214
01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:22.359
don't know if they're there anymore.

1215
01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:26.880
So you're saying that there could be an issue sometimes

1216
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:28.960
if you take something from a certain area and you

1217
01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:31.119
don't return something.

1218
01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:38.159
Yeah, Like I think some things, since they don't, you know,

1219
01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:41.319
have pockets or anything to carry stuff, I think they

1220
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:44.119
leave things and they think people aren't going to pick

1221
01:32:44.119 --> 01:32:48.720
them up. I think a lot of rock tools that

1222
01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:56.520
people find and think are artifacts are actually theirs. Because

1223
01:32:56.520 --> 01:33:01.000
I was at a cave near near the rental cabin.

1224
01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:04.199
We were looking at land there and it was like

1225
01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:10.760
a spring in a cave and there were a lot

1226
01:33:10.840 --> 01:33:17.840
of rock tools right there at the entrance. And then

1227
01:33:17.920 --> 01:33:20.079
my dogs wouldn't go in the cave. It was a

1228
01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:25.119
big cave. But you know, I don't have a lot

1229
01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:30.079
of self preservation. So I went in a cave and

1230
01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:34.960
there was this part where you could if you went

1231
01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:37.720
in the water there it looked like there was another chamber.

1232
01:33:37.800 --> 01:33:39.640
I didn't go there because I got a bad feeling.

1233
01:33:39.720 --> 01:33:41.560
I was like, I'm not going in the water chain.

1234
01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:46.119
I think they're hiding in there. And there was like

1235
01:33:46.159 --> 01:33:52.680
a bone pile, so I didn't continue. But it was

1236
01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:53.640
a very nice cave.

1237
01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:55.359
What kind of bones do you think?

1238
01:33:57.840 --> 01:34:01.159
I didn't really inspect them though much. There's like a

1239
01:34:01.199 --> 01:34:06.199
skull and some some mother bones. I was like, okay,

1240
01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:09.359
I'm getting out now. The dogs really are freaked out.

1241
01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:14.720
My dogs had never acted that freaked out before, and

1242
01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:18.079
they still haven't acted that freaked out again. So they

1243
01:34:18.439 --> 01:34:20.880
not want to be there.

1244
01:34:21.319 --> 01:34:24.800
Clay County is right next to Overton. Have you ever

1245
01:34:24.840 --> 01:34:28.039
heard of anything from Clay County regarding bigfoot?

1246
01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:32.239
I have not, but I don't know anybody in Clay County, Okay,

1247
01:34:32.600 --> 01:34:37.399
just checking. I have heard stuff from Cumberland County, Okay

1248
01:34:38.520 --> 01:34:45.520
a bigfoot stealing a cooler and kind of destroying it.

1249
01:34:46.119 --> 01:34:49.560
Wow, that's very interesting.

1250
01:34:49.760 --> 01:34:53.479
They let it happen. They're just okay, what.

1251
01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:54.359
Are you going to do?

1252
01:34:54.479 --> 01:34:54.640
Right?

1253
01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:56.359
You're not going to stop. It's like, yeah, I can

1254
01:34:56.399 --> 01:35:01.079
get another cooler. It's fine. Have you ever heard any

1255
01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:07.119
accounts in your area of there being aggressive interactions at all.

1256
01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:19.439
Other than the possible like kid getting shot in the

1257
01:35:19.520 --> 01:35:24.720
beating to death. I haven't heard anything else. I think

1258
01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:31.359
mostly they're avoiding us and sometimes like gifting back and forth.

1259
01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:38.359
Did I mention the chicken eggs?

1260
01:35:40.039 --> 01:35:42.520
Maybe in passing, but go ahead.

1261
01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:47.920
I used to keep a lot of chickens, like fancy

1262
01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:53.199
breeds and stuff, and chickens will go through phases where

1263
01:35:53.199 --> 01:35:56.560
they don't lay, and I would leave two eggs out

1264
01:35:56.560 --> 01:36:01.039
every night. And there's a time where I ran out

1265
01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:06.119
of chicken eggs, so they didn't get their eggs and

1266
01:36:06.159 --> 01:36:09.680
I was starting to get eggs from the grocery store

1267
01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:14.960
for us, but I didn't leave extra eggs out, and

1268
01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:18.760
they got an egg carton from the trash and put

1269
01:36:18.840 --> 01:36:23.520
it at the door of the coupe, like asking for

1270
01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:29.760
eggs really. And they've also I've put out soup cans

1271
01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:33.079
before and they'll like leave the can in my path

1272
01:36:33.159 --> 01:36:38.760
if they like the soup, oh wow, instead of just

1273
01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:44.000
leaving it at the gifting spot. So I think if

1274
01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:46.720
you give them food that has a wrapper, it's easy

1275
01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:52.079
for them to ask for more.

1276
01:36:52.520 --> 01:36:57.479
There's so many things happening on your property that shows intelligence.

1277
01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:00.520
It's it is credible.

1278
01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:07.720
Yeah, and it seems more human level intelligence. I've interacted

1279
01:37:07.880 --> 01:37:16.520
with chimpanzees, well chimpanzee and because my stepdad knew people

1280
01:37:16.520 --> 01:37:24.279
with private zoo, and it's a different level of intelligence.

1281
01:37:24.319 --> 01:37:27.279
It seems more human like, but different kind of human

1282
01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:28.199
if that makes sense.

1283
01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:32.159
It definitely makes sense.

1284
01:37:32.399 --> 01:37:38.479
And I wonder if they won't, if the government won't

1285
01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:41.680
acknowledge their existence, because they wouldn't be able to protect

1286
01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:47.359
them from us, because they also don't acknowledge that there's

1287
01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:51.680
cougars and red wolves here even though I've seen them so.

1288
01:37:54.960 --> 01:37:57.880
Well isn't it funny it protects them. Isn't it funny

1289
01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:01.720
how certain parks will get shut down to the public,

1290
01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:05.159
you know, and just for who knows why.

1291
01:38:06.039 --> 01:38:08.800
Yeah, I've noticed that. Yeah, it happened a lot in Washington.

1292
01:38:09.319 --> 01:38:13.319
Yeah, it happens in Tennessee too. You'll start to notice

1293
01:38:13.319 --> 01:38:19.479
if you start looking around, you'll start to notice it. Yeah.

1294
01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:20.800
But uh.

1295
01:38:22.359 --> 01:38:28.880
Oh. When I was in North Carolina, a lot of

1296
01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:33.920
things were getting shut down for supposedly bears, and I went.

1297
01:38:34.399 --> 01:38:36.960
I drove like an hour and a half hour of

1298
01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:39.039
the way because I really wanted to go there. So

1299
01:38:39.079 --> 01:38:43.199
I went in the back way and the smell was intense,

1300
01:38:43.319 --> 01:38:48.720
but I never saw a bear, but there was some

1301
01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:52.439
intense smell the whole way up, Like the smell followed

1302
01:38:52.439 --> 01:38:56.159
me absolutely, and I was going up a mountain at sunrise.

1303
01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:11.199
Ginger, your story is is really intense and very very

1304
01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:16.319
I would say, very active property just from how you've

1305
01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:20.000
been explaining it, And I would even imagine that there's

1306
01:39:20.159 --> 01:39:26.760
more going on too, if we were to to really

1307
01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:29.520
get into it. But I just want to say thank

1308
01:39:29.560 --> 01:39:33.560
you for spending your time on the podcast tonight and

1309
01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:38.560
sharing what you're experiencing. I know that it is hard

1310
01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:43.840
to find people that will listen to what you've experienced

1311
01:39:43.880 --> 01:39:47.399
and not think that you're crazy, because I am experiencing

1312
01:39:47.520 --> 01:39:52.279
that myself now, so I get it. Yeah, but I

1313
01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:55.800
you know, if you ever have any other things that

1314
01:39:56.840 --> 01:39:59.079
happen or you want to reach out, you are more

1315
01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:03.640
than welcome to reach out, and we can always do

1316
01:40:03.960 --> 01:40:09.239
an update in the future. And hopefully your boyfriend continues

1317
01:40:09.279 --> 01:40:15.239
to be okay as well. So yeah, yeah, hopefully. But

1318
01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:17.800
I just want to say thank you for coming on tonight.

1319
01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:19.840
Okay, thank you.

1320
01:40:20.079 --> 01:40:23.039
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1321
01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:26.319
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

1322
01:40:26.359 --> 01:40:29.199
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1323
01:40:29.239 --> 01:40:33.760
it for myself. Well guess what this year you can.

1324
01:40:34.439 --> 01:40:37.399
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1325
01:40:37.399 --> 01:40:42.359
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1326
01:40:42.439 --> 01:40:46.039
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1327
01:40:46.119 --> 01:40:50.199
even better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll

1328
01:40:50.239 --> 01:40:52.560
be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild.

1329
01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:58.079
I'll probably I'll say this, there may be stuff you

1330
01:40:58.159 --> 01:41:02.520
haven't heard anywhere else because because let's just say sometimes

1331
01:41:03.439 --> 01:41:06.520
it's well, you just got to be there. We'll leave

1332
01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:09.479
it that more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods.

1333
01:41:09.520 --> 01:41:14.399
Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from

1334
01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:19.560
his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you

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can not only go to the festival, but you can

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also sign up for a track deep in the wild

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forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot

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sign up for this, and yes, this will also be

1340
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filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which

1341
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is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in lifetime deal.

1342
01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:52.600
It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

1343
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To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

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pass for the price of a one day pass. So

1347
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thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that

1348
01:42:16.560 --> 01:42:21.840
you guys can can get a little help with the

1349
01:42:21.880 --> 01:42:25.279
cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you

1350
01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:29.520
at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can talk

1351
01:42:29.520 --> 01:42:31.960
about your encounter was able to talk to so many

1352
01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:35.600
people last year and the year before. It is an

1353
01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:38.279
incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

1354
01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:43.000
and I'll see you there Before we wrap this episode,

1355
01:42:43.079 --> 01:42:45.680
I want to say something directly to a very specific

1356
01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:49.199
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

1357
01:42:49.479 --> 01:42:52.199
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

1358
01:42:52.199 --> 01:42:55.439
can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or

1359
01:42:55.560 --> 01:42:58.920
forestreet worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if

1360
01:42:58.960 --> 01:43:02.560
you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

1361
01:43:02.920 --> 01:43:05.720
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

1362
01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:09.279
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

1363
01:43:09.319 --> 01:43:12.359
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

1364
01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:16.000
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

1365
01:43:16.159 --> 01:43:19.159
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

1366
01:43:20.119 --> 01:43:22.960
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

1367
01:43:23.079 --> 01:43:26.680
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

1368
01:43:26.720 --> 01:43:30.359
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1369
01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:33.920
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1370
01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:37.119
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a

1371
01:43:37.159 --> 01:43:40.560
missionary or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw

1372
01:43:40.640 --> 01:43:43.319
something that shook your faith, or if you work in

1373
01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:47.720
the shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've

1374
01:43:47.760 --> 01:43:51.560
seen what the public hasn't, then I want to talk

1375
01:43:51.600 --> 01:43:56.520
to you, even if it's anonymous. You can reach me

1376
01:43:57.079 --> 01:44:00.680
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. World needs to

1377
01:44:00.720 --> 01:44:04.600
hear what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're

1378
01:44:04.600 --> 01:44:09.319
not alone. You've got the story, We've got the mic.

1379
01:44:10.840 --> 01:44:13.119
See you in the woods. Thank you for listening to

1380
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1382
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