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Season 1

What happens when a retired battalion fire chief is driving through northern Idaho—and sees something in the river no man can explain? In this gripping episode of Bigfoot Society, we hear from Todd, a seasoned professional trained to write courtroom-level reports, who shares a firsthand sighting from I-90 near Kellogg, Idaho. A massive, dark figure walked effortlessly through the South Fork of the Coeur d'Alene River... and it wasn’t alone. We also dive into chilling stories from East Texas, Pennsylvania, Utah, and North Carolina—where a Sasquatch carried a deer over its shoulder, mimicked elk calls, and even withstood a 60 mph vehicle strike. You’ll hear from truckers, hunters, campers, and witnesses who know what they saw—and have nothing left to prove. This episode isn’t about blurry photos. It’s about truth.


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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. I Pick for Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to Todd today. Todd is an

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individual that reached out to me about an encounter he

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just had recently in northern Idaho. Just some background on

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Todd that he provided. He is a retired fire battalion

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chief as well. Welcome to the show, Todd. How are

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you doing today.

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I'm doing great, Thank you, Thank you for having me. Jeremiah.

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Absolutely, there was a little bit that you told me

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before we start recording I thought was very interesting. So

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part of your your responsibilities as a fire battalion chief

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was you were responsible for creating some certain types of

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documents and reports.

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Correct.

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That is correct, and actually starting from before I was

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a fire captain responsible for incident reports and the associated

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incident narratives that are attached to those reports, and I

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did a lot of them over thirty years.

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The thing that I found really interesting is that usually

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these reports that you were making were used in legal circumstances.

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Correct.

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Absolutely, Yeah, you just never knew when you would be

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deposed or called the court for something that you notated

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in a report.

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So that being said, you're a guy that for years

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and years, you're constantly I would imagine things that you

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were seeing happen, you're observing. You're constantly a very detailed

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oriented person. Yes, absolutely, awesome, Awesome, you had something very

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interesting happen on September sixth of this year. Feel free

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to take us back to that date what you experienced

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when you were along around that area.

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All right, So Buddy and Mia and I had left

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his house that morning. He lives outside of Kettle Falls, Washington,

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so northeastern Washington, and we were headed ultimately to Crane Lake,

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Minnesota over the next couple of days, and we were

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meeting up with two other of our friends to go

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on a canoe trip in the Boundary Water Canoe area.

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So when we left his house that morning, we had

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gone to the Cabellas in Post Falls, Idahoes to get

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a few more supplies, and then we headed eastward. So

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looking at the timeline of when we left his house

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and when we got to Cabella's and how long we

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stayed there and so forth, so I'm guessing it was

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around probably between eleven am and noon on that day,

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on September sixth, that we were passing through Kellogg, Idaho,

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and we were on obviously eastbound on I ninety, and

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we were driving in the number two lane, or the

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lane closest to the right shoulder, and we're just I'm

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probably going seventy seventy five miles an hour. And as

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we were driving along, we had noticed that there was

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a river running below the highway, and I have since

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looked at that up and that seems to be the

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south fork of the Quarterlane River. And so driving along,

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talking looking around, and something caught our attention in the

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river below us at the same time, so we both

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looked down and it was only a few seconds obviously,

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as we're driving by, and as soon it was over.

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We looked at each other and what was that? What

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did we just see? And it was pretty remarkable, And

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I think if it would just been if I had

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seen it and my buddy had not, I wouldn't have

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thought too much about it. But the fact that he

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saw it and I saw it really grabbed our attention.

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So we looked down in the water and there was

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a tall figure with long arms walking through the river.

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And from our direction, I would say it was heading southwest,

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walking back, walking across the river, and it looked to

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be about a foot of water, And again from the

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distance away that we were, that's hard to tell, but

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it was tall, and like I said, the long arms,

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the way the arms swayed, and the way he walked

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through the water, and just thinking that usually walking through

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any water, especially if there's rocks, it's slippery and it's

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not a fast process. But it didn't seem to have

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any any problem, or it wasn't walking precariously. It seemed

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like it was just strolling through the water. So the

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thing that caught us, other than being tall and long arms,

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it was completely dark from the top of the head

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to what we could see down towards the bottom of

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the legs, meaning no clothes, no, no fishing vest, no hat,

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not carrying a fishing rod or anything like that. So

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again we're traveling by, we saw it, and okay, what

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did you see? What did you see? And we both

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described the exact same thing. It's like, well, did you

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see a hat? No, I didn't. Did you have fishing vest,

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a fishing rods? We went down the whole checklist. Could

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it have been a bear? And it's like, there's not

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a chance. It was walking on two legs, as natural

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as you and I would cross the street. So that

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is about the extent of what we saw. And again,

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if I had seen it, I probably would have blown

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it off, but the fact that my friend saw it

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gave it a little bit more credence. I have been

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a fan of the bigfoot phenomena since I was a

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little boy, and I mentioned this in my email to you,

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originally that those the mysterious monsters and legend of Boggie

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Creek and so forth, and then obviously as an adult,

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with the introduction of the Internet to be able to

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find and look at things, I have been much more

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interested in the subject as I've gotten older. So having

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said that I went on the BFRO database and I

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couldn't find anything specific to Kellogg, Idaho, nor did I

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see anything recent or relevant on the Bigfoot mapping project.

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But on fast forward almost two weeks later, I am

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driving home to southern California from after I got my

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friend off that his Washington and I was listening to

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podcasts and I came across your episode six point thirty one,

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which was I believe Sasquatch stole our elk, which is

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based out of Kellogg, Idaho. So that is what prompted

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me to contact you and just to think maybe I

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have another piece of the puzzle to Bigfoot in Idaho.

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That's fantastic, and thank you for bringing that episode up.

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Because I myself am working on a siting map based

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on my episodes that's on my website big for Society

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podcast dot com. I haven't gone through all the episodes,

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and I actually haven't gone back in time far enough

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to get that episode on the map, so I'm glad

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that you were able to find it and bring that up.

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That's a pretty interesting one for sure. A few questions

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for you about that siting that you had. Were there

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any cars pulled over in that area people watching things

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like that.

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No, and I don't know if anyone pulled over after us.

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And to this day I even joked with my friend,

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I said, if we did that over again, I would

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have had you pulled over and we would have backed

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up on the right shoulder, or I would have ran

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back with my phone and taken some pictures or gotten

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a better look at it.

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Absolutely, that's one of those situations where it's hindsight is

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twenty twenty. For sure. I know you only saw it

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for a very short amount of time because you're driving

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down the road seventy five miles an hour and you

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both see it for just a second or two during

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that time. Though I have some questions. Did you notice

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how it was built at all?

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So it did not. And again, so after I sent

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this report to you, I had actually sent it to

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my buddy and he said, that's exactly what I saw. Tall,

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But I couldn't say how tall based on our vantage point,

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whether it was six or seven feet. It just seemed

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tall to both of us. And again the long arms

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and the way they were moving, so not a great

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deal of detail, and it didn't seem bulky. I couldn't say, oh,

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it was four feet wide or anything like that. It

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just seemed like a tall figure with long arms strolling

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through the water.

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That makes sense. Were you able to see it's a

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shape of its head at all?

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Now we saw that it's had obviously, but I couldn't

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say that it was comb shaped or anything like that.

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I just, again, it was too quick of an encounter.

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And again I don't even know what it was. It

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just by process of elimination between my friend and I.

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It just didn't seem like it was a person. It

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didn't seem like it was a bear. Definitely it was

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on two legs, so that it wasn't an elk or

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a cow or anything like that.

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You've mentioned a few times that the arms were very long.

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Were they long enough so that they were down in

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the water or were they just above the water line.

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So I would say that they were just maybe towards

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mid thigh. And so I was trained in water rescue

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and did that for most of my career, so I'm

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pretty familiar with the water crossings and moving water and

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so forth, and how I would walk across water. They

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would constantly be mindful of every step and anything that

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you might slip on or any snags, any tripping hazards

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in the water, and so forth, and so, but it

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seemed like the figure was just strolling. And again I

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had mentioned in my initial account, it seems like it's

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palms were down in the sense that its thumbs were

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by its side as it swung its arms as it walked,

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whereas you and I maybe would have walked through there

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very precariously and cautiously with our arms. Maybe I don't

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think I would be swinging my arms in that situation.

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I think my arms might have been out in front

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of me, just to make sure that I didn't stumble,

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or if I did, I could catch myself hopefully.

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Did you get an estimate of how far away it

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was from you as you drove by?

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So I can only guesstimate on that, and I seemed

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like the water was approximately thirty feet below the deck

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of the highway and then so based on that, i'd say,

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and again, as a retired firefighter, I can base measurements

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based on a fifty foot section of fire hose, I

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would say it was probably one hundred feet away two

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six a.

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Hose, not too far away. What was the conversation like

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after you and your buddy kept on driving.

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When we looked at each other, our eyes were both

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as big as silver dollars, and like, I said, what

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was that? What did we just see? And and so

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again we went down the list. Did you see this?

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So I saw this?

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Okay, yeah, I saw that too. And then I actually

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texted my Our family has a group text, and I said, hey,

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I think my buddy and I just saw bigfoot. And

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then another buddy of mine, who and I had mentioned

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in my in my initial email to you, that I

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had gone to the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot conference two years

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ago and another buddy of mine went with me, and

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so I texted him and on my I don't know

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what I saw. I listed everything like I listed in

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the email of the account, and I don't know what

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else it could be.

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It's one of those quick, quick sightings that definitely sticks

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with you after you so you get over. So you

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made it all the way over to Minnesota. I'm guessing correct, Okay.

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Sometimes when people have encounters or they have sightings, they're

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affected in really weird ways. Was there anything out of

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the ordinary that happened in the days after that sighting,

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like any dreams or anything weird? Like that that came.

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Up, no whatsoever. We both thought it was cool. And again,

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I go camping in the eastern Sierra Nevada Mountains in California.

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I've been on these remote canoe trips to the Boundary

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Waters in Minnesota five times now, so I always thought

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if I ever did have an encounter, it would be

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while camping in the Sierras or while on a canoe

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trip in Minnesota. But that wasn't the case apparently.

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Yeah, and that is the weird thing because both of

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those both of those areas are I would say the

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Sierra is the extremely active. I live in the Midwest

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Boundary Waters. Yeah, I've gotten reports from there as well.

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It's wild up there. But to have the sighting happen

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when you're driving along the river, it's pretty cool, pretty cool,

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but definitely unexpected. Todd and just I appreciate you spending

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some time talking to me about it. It's one of

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those where you know, as you said, other stuff has

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happened in Killag so it'll be cool to be able

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to put something else into the area. Hopefully some people

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listening to this will also come forward if they've had

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things happen. But yeah, thank you. For spending some time

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with me. I want to make sure that you were

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able to share everything about the encounter that you had happen.

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Yeah, that's I can't add anymore. And again, I just

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hope it adds another piece to the puzzle and maybe

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someone else who was driving by that morning saw something

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that they were unsure of, or like you said, maybe

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there's people that live in and around Kellogg that might

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have something else to have. So I appreciate you listening

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to me, and I look forward to you're hearing more

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of the episodes.

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Fantastic. Thanks so much for coming on, Todd. I do

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appreciate it.

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All right, take care, Jeremiah.

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How's it going here? How you doing good?

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Good?

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I say your comment you have a few things to

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share tonight.

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Yeah.

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I've actually seen him twice. The better stories he's Texas,

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so I'll give you that one. I was sixteen at

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the time, and I was hanging out with my sister's

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boyfriend and her brother his brother, and they decided that

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we were all going to have a sleepover at their place,

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and they lived in East Texas, So we're driving back

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to their play there like an hour away from where

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we lived in Azel which also was out in the

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country a little bit, and as we're driving his my

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friend's brother, my sister's boyfriend. He was driving. He slows

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down and he's pointing out a bear that's off to

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the side of the road. Looks like it's got a deer.

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This sucker stood up and it was not a bear.

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He was huge, probably eight foot tall at least, and

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at this point we're probably maybe twenty feet away from it.

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It bent down, grabbed the back legs of the deer,

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threw it over its shoulder, walked caddy corner in front

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of us from so from twenty feet down to fifteen

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feet to this gully that was on the side of

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the road, threw the deer down, snarled at us, and

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he booked it. He just hit the gas. We pilled out.

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We were on a world going back to a trailer park.

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He pilled that thing pilled out. Got us to the trailer,

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and his was one of the first trailers that was

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off the road. So as we're getting out of the car,

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he basically grabs us, throws us into the trailer. He

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gets his gun and he's sitting there pointing it out

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the door, shaking because you could literally see where we

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were from his trailer, so he thought the sucker was

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gonna come after us or something. He didn't it just

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grabbed the deer and kept and went off into the woods.

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But let me tell you, I I've heard a lot

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of big foot stories and it just sets you on

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a path for the rest of your life. Once you've

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seen one, you really need to almost see it again

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to validate that your your to yourself that it was real.

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I will say is the picture behind you is a

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very good interpretation. But if you can think of an

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American Indian and their facial structures, that's what it looked like.

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He had a very wide mouth. The teeth when he

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snarled just looked like human teeth, didn't He had no

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fangs or anything like that. His skin was a grayish complexion.

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But what the nose and everything. My initial thought was

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he looked like a huge type of like American Indian

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type face, you know what I mean. He didn't look

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like a monkey, is what I'm trying to say, which

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is what they tell you a lot. Oh it's just

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another eight. No, this was human, humanoid and that's what

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always stuck with that in his eyes.

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So that was.

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That's always. It set me on a quest I go

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camping once a year different spots to try to see

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if I can find them. I got the opportunity when

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I moved up to pa Pennsylvania to go out to

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Mission Ake's Mission OK State Park.

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Yep, yep, I've heard about that one on Look at

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the Pike.

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That one.

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Yeah.

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I took my son and one of his friends camping

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and we found it was really great. And I went

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there like three four years in a row. One year

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we had with other campers there was their horses got

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let loose and all that kind of there's some crazy

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stuff went on that weekend, but no visuals, footprints we

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found all that kind of stuff. And then the last

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time I went with my son and his friend, we

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saw we were a couple going down one of the

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rby off road vehicles pass have out there. It's up

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on top of the mountain and probably, oh, I want

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to say, honestly, about forty fifty feet in front of us.

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We thought it was the brown Bear first, because there's

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that little incline on the when you're walking on a path,

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you're not sure the bend there, you know what I mean?

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On the horizon, and as we got closer, it literally

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just to the path. And I was very good at

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looking at where it was the tree branches that were

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hanging down, so I get an idea of how tall

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it was, and it was pretty tall. So time we

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got up there and as we passed it, it had

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went off the side, so we thought it was safe

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to go ahead and go forward back to our camp.

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And it was starting to get dark, so we were

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getting a little iffy, so we started walking a little

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bit faster and stuff and talking louder in case it

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was a bear. And we turned around and it was

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behind us, right on the path, and we basically, thanks

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to my son's friend, we all got freaked out and

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we just bolted and we were like not that far

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from camp at that point. So we got back to

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the camp and my son's friend was like, never again,

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I'm not coming ever again. He thought it was a oak,

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and this sucker was big. I can't say, I know

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the tree branch looked anywhere from eight to nine feet,

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but I couldn't believe how tall it must have been

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for us to be able to see it. But yeah,

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so I'm considering myself quite lucky I've seen him twice,

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and I look at it as a tribe.

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Absolutely, you saw him in Pennsylvania as well, then.

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Yes, wow.

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But I was sixteen the first time and I was

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in my fifties the second time. Okay, And I've gone

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camping at least once a year. I do a specific

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Bigfoot thing, and I've found tracks, and I found tree

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things in the woods and stuff that are unusual or

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what I consider nests. I got one picture of this

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looks like a nest that they would have put their

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babies in or something.

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It was really cool.

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Thank you for sharing both of those stories. So the

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two different places you had sightings, did they both look

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similar or did they look different and different?

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Place one the first one I got out that was

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you can't get close. If you got any closer, I

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probably would have been ripped apart. That first one, I

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saw the face, I saw the details. The second one

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was a little further away. I'll tell you what you

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can't miss on both of them is that scent. The

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same smell because it was summertime. The first time, we

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had the windows down, and it's that skunky, wet dog smell.

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But that was just like I think the second time.

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It smelled more skunk, but it was. It's just the

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size of it's just overwhelming. God, I didn't see the

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face though. I didn't see the face on the second one.

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Sure it was too far away. The first one you

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mentioned the eyes. Did the eyes have any whites to

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them or were they all want of color?

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No, they had whites to it.

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Okay, that's what I'm saying.

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It was a human wight. I don't buy the not

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the one I saw, I don't buy. I don't buy

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the ape appearance so much. The nose was broader, like

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you'd see what he called it with some different races.

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There's a little broader of a nose, but I don't know.

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And the mouth was very wide, but that's probably due

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they were so big.

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He was so big.

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And I'm saying he because there's there were no breasts

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or anything like that, but you couldn't. I wasn't looking

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at the crutch to be sure it's a guy, but

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it was definitely male. The width of the shoulders is unbelievable.

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You're talking like it looked like four foot wide. It

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was just he was just wide. It was crazy, And

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it was the funny part is that my sister's boyfriend

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got back and he he was with the gun, and

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then he called his brother over because he had soiled

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himself and he wanted to go get out of his pants,

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and he gave his brother, we're sixteen, so he gave

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him a gun the thing and told him to watch

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the door as his brothers what am I going to

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do if this thing was in the house. They had

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a little trailer he could he could just flip it over.

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Yeah, you're not going to stop with us, for sure.

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Yeah. We did not sleep that night, needless to say.

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But from what we could tell when we were in

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the trailer, it looked like he just grabbed the deer

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and went into the tree line. Okay, I guess he

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decided to. He might have that's where he killed it,

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or maybe it was a roadkill and he just figured

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he grab it. I'm not sure, but I'll tell you

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there is nothing weirder than seeing it. When he stood up,

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he looks at us, and then he just reached down,

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like barely with one arm and flung it over his

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shoulder like.

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It was nothing.

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And then he started across the road. So we're just

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like stuck there. And as soon as he got to

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the left or left. His brother just hit the metal

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and just we just tore out.

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Have you heard of any other interactions happening in that

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same stay for us?

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Oh yeah, all the time.

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Oh okay, wow.

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Yeah. I used to talk to There's I don't remember

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his name now, but one of the rangers there. I

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remember the first time I was up at the campside

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I chose and he came up to put up some

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flyers and he asked me how my weekend's going. I

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told him I was there specifically I do bigfoot expeditions.

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And if you want him, you'll see You'll see him

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if you want you to. He goes. I've been here

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four years. He goes, and the amount of people that

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have seen him, and I just knowing him being in

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the woods at night.

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He goes.

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You hear the calls because I've never seen him physically.

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This is what the ranger said. He said he never

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seen him physically, but he's smelled them and he's heard him.

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He goes, and usually when he hears them, he figures

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he's in the wrong spot and he needs to go,

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he needs to leave. He goes. I'm not one to

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go looking for trouble. He goes if you hear bear

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growl or something, walk the other way.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, but even there, I used to go there.

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I went there, I want say, five, four or five times,

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and it was only the one time that we saw him.

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But other times we've had incidences around the camp site

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that led to one instance in particular, the one I

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told you about the horses that came out that we

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got a lot of good footprints and stuff out of

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that one partial hand. I didn't make a cast of

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that though, because it was questionable, but I wasn't questioning it.

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Yeah, absolutely, man. Sometimes I call up different for us

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and try to talk to the rangers and stuff. I

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might try to call that one up. I have an

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episode where I talk to a guy who actually lives

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there and he's had a lot of stuff going on.

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It's seven to twelve of the podcast if you want

470
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to check it out. It's pretty interesting, I think. But yeah, man,

471
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.799
thank you for coming up. Is this a conversation I

472
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:50.880
can I could actually put on my big Foot podcast.

473
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:54.279
Absolutely. It's nice talking to people that actually believe me.

474
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:58.960
Right, Yeah, exactly, exactly. Keep us in the loop if

475
00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:00.519
anything else happens in the future.

476
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.319
For sure, absolutely, man, Thanks for having me on. I

477
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:03.920
appreciate it.

478
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:12.640
Thank you any Ray, how's it going? Hello either? How

479
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:13.359
are you either?

480
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:14.759
Hey man?

481
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.759
Yeah, truck driver. Can you hear me?

482
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:19.720
Yeah?

483
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:21.079
You sound great? Yet to go ahead?

484
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.759
Yeah, truck driver. For many years, man, and I've told

485
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:30.079
this story. I think it's just that I still can't.

486
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.400
I would like to go like back in somewhere where

487
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.079
they dive into your memory, because I still have a

488
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.680
hard time. The visual of the face is the hardest

489
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.880
part of it. Like when you look into something and

490
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.759
you can't understand what you're looking at. Garrett was like,

491
00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:49.359
why didn't you take a picture? It's the moment when

492
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:53.240
it's happening. You're just numb. I didn't know what I

493
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:57.519
was listening. I've never seen a bear on the twenty

494
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:01.039
years of truck driving. But what this was is I

495
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.920
was taking I was taking Wicker furniture from Atlanta up

496
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.200
to high Point, North Carolina. I'd get there probably two

497
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:10.559
or three in the morning, and it was just a

498
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.039
drop yard where you dropped your trailer and you grabbed

499
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:16.799
an empty and you turned around anyways you got off

500
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:19.079
this highway and then you would make a right and

501
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.400
it would it was a quarry down so you would

502
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.480
go down below a highway that ran above and there

503
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.160
was a quarry there, which I told you there was

504
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:32.640
a quarry, and the fog everything kind of misses when

505
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.640
you go down that far below. Anyways, I've just got

506
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:38.480
to say it quick. So it's just a it's a

507
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.480
two am thing. I'm coming down the road and something

508
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.119
standing in the middle of the road. As a truck driver,

509
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.799
it's always something you don't know what it is. This

510
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.920
thing was standing in front. It was standing in the

511
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:55.119
middle of the road, and I pulled right up on it.

512
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:58.759
When a semi is loud, man, it's obnoxious. You come up.

513
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.960
Most anything runs deer. I don't care what it is.

514
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.920
It runs. This thing stood at me all right, eye

515
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:12.119
level in a semi's gotta be what seven eight foot

516
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:17.440
staring me in the face. This is the hardest part

517
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:19.599
that I have about it, because I've talked to so

518
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:24.079
many people about it. It looked very old, like an

519
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:28.599
old man. I try to look like. I've looked up bears,

520
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:32.599
what a bear might look like. This thing was not

521
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.400
a bear. It was an old man's face and it

522
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:39.440
was all the hair was gone from the face. Right,

523
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.400
So it was the hair on the top of the head.

524
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.559
But this thing was smelling in the air, like he

525
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:50.200
was smelling something like it was hunting up hunted deer

526
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:53.480
in hogs. And I'm a kid from Florida, I know

527
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.680
the sense of what I'm looking at. But this thing

528
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.079
was really dotted onto something. It was hunting something, and

529
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:06.000
I interrupted it. But it's standing there looking, was pissed

530
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:08.000
off at me that I showed up on it. I

531
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.720
got bright lights. When you pull the air brakes on

532
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:15.960
a semi it's obnoxious, loud. Man. This thing didn't flinch.

533
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:19.559
It looked at me, and then it kept looking up,

534
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:24.720
still smelling. I just I've tried to explain it to

535
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:27.079
all my friends. Everybody's like, oh, it was a bear man.

536
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.079
I'm like, I'm telling you, this is not a bear man.

537
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:35.559
This was something that was larger than life. It was huge,

538
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:39.799
but it was the face. I can't get over. It

539
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:44.920
had a normal kind of nose. It I can't. I

540
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.359
just can't explain it. It was a human eye. It

541
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.680
wasn't an animal, but it was an animal. It was

542
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:56.359
covered in hair from But it stood there long enough

543
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:01.200
for me to turn the engine off and stood there

544
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:04.920
and we were in total silence for all right three minutes.

545
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:08.160
Three minutes seemed like in half an hour, but it

546
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:11.960
just all was so insane in the moment that you're

547
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.920
looking at something. Listen. I've fought myself over and over.

548
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:20.880
I told my mom, I've told everybody, and you just

549
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:24.119
know when you're seeing something that's not something in the

550
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:29.039
category of anything. And then it did when it left,

551
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.000
and it did go down and do a little bit

552
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:35.839
of a hop away. It was. It didn't run off

553
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:38.279
like you see the old picture of a big foot

554
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:43.480
running through the woods like everybody believes. It was different.

555
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:47.559
It did the it's like an eight move. It was

556
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.839
a move that I That's why everybody's like, oh, it

557
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:52.960
was a bear. And I'm like, I'm telling you, man,

558
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.720
I know what a bear moves like. My mom lives

559
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:59.000
in North Carolina and the bears stand up when they're

560
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:04.599
smell something she's seen bare walk through her backyard telling

561
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.480
you whatever I see, man, was not something on the register.

562
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.880
I don't know what else to say to it. High Point,

563
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.599
North Carolina. Man, it was. It was just a moment

564
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:17.839
in my life that I can't explain. I still try

565
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:20.279
to figure it out. I even went to the Bigfoot

566
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.000
X thing up in North Carolina, and I forgot to

567
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:29.400
tell him the story. I can't explain that. I don't know,

568
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:31.400
you know, the expedition thing up and.

569
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:33.599
Oh yes, Northern Georgia, that.

570
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:38.160
One, Yeah, yeah, up and and I They're like, how

571
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.079
do you forget to tell him that story? I'm like,

572
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:43.079
I just I talk with my wife about it all

573
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:46.359
the time. I'm like you, I've seen so many weird

574
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.880
things out on the road for so long, but that

575
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:54.359
thing just bugs me. It bugs me hard. It's just

576
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:57.359
what stands that tall in the semi that can look

577
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:01.480
you in the eye. You gotta figure how tall that is?

578
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:07.359
Gotta be seven foot eight foot And it was pissed

579
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.160
off that I ran up on it. I think a

580
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.680
bear would have ran off, it would have been scared.

581
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:19.160
This thing was aggressive, but it was It had no

582
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:23.200
problem with me, like I was in its threat. So

583
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.720
I don't know how to explain that to anybody. I

584
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.079
do believe in it, I don't know, it's tell the story.

585
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.119
I wish I could go back in my memory. It's

586
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.559
the face that got me the most. Though it looked

587
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:39.960
like a man's face, it looked like an old man,

588
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.400
like native old man, like its hair was. It was

589
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.359
really old. Whatever it was really like, the old one

590
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:50.720
wasn't young.

591
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.640
Have you ever thought of going under hypnosis?

592
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.119
That's what I wanted to do, man, And I want

593
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:04.960
that moment because it clearly is in my mind. I

594
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:09.440
remember it. Listen. I didn't grab the phone. I just

595
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.639
turned the truck off. Like my sense in me was

596
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:17.320
take the moment, don't grab the phone. I'm watching it

597
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.360
through my big window on my semi when you just

598
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:24.119
your of course you're freaked out. Nobody's gonna believe this.

599
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:29.440
I'm not believing this. And it looked me straight in

600
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.280
the face, What are you doing here? I knew the

601
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:39.119
quarry was there, and you gotta believe in the hunting process,

602
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:42.239
just that that's where it would be in a sense.

603
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.000
I'm a kid from Florida's I know Cougar's and I

604
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.039
know how things work in Florida panthers, and it's just

605
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.599
it all came together in that moment for me to

606
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:57.559
see this big thing huge. It was huge, but it

607
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.400
was old. That was the part of that got me

608
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.280
the most. That its hair was receded way back in

609
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.800
its head, like it had a huge forehead. It wasn't

610
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.559
it was an animal, but it had a face. That

611
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:16.320
was the part that confused me the most, Like, I'm

612
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:21.039
looking at an old man. I don't know.

613
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:21.320
Man.

614
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:27.000
She shared this story with a lot of people. I

615
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.239
appreciate you you sharing it up here. Did your truck

616
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.440
have any type of dash camera?

617
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:36.760
Oh it's not. This is eight years ago. Man, that's

618
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:40.039
what I'm saying. My phone sat My phone was sitting

619
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:43.719
right there on the dash. I could have done something,

620
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:49.400
but you're in shock. Man, You're just in shock. You're

621
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:54.199
looking at something you can't explain. It's just it. That's

622
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:56.719
the part that bugs me the most. Why didn't I

623
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:02.920
take a picture? Anyways? I just wanted to share that.

624
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.280
Thanks for letting me share it, man, Thank you.

625
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:05.559
Ray.

626
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.559
It lives on my memory every day. Man, Thank you.

627
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.159
Bro. Is this a conversation I could to share on

628
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:14.320
my big Foot podcast?

629
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:16.719
I have a heart, man, I would love to share

630
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:18.440
it with more people. Thank you.

631
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.239
Hey there, how's it going good?

632
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:22.920
How about you?

633
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.000
Good good? I'm glad you were able to get up here.

634
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.719
Yeah, that was weird. I tried to get on the

635
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:33.119
first time and it told me it needed permission. For

636
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.159
my microphone and then it kicked me off.

637
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.000
But oh gotcha.

638
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:42.119
But anyway, Yeah, I got on here listening to people,

639
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.360
and I thought, what a place to maybe share what

640
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.760
I've been going through with some of these things. But

641
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:50.280
I don't even really know where to start. I know

642
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:53.280
the last one I typed in there that the last

643
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:58.840
one experience I had with these things like saved my life. Literally.

644
00:36:59.599 --> 00:36:59.840
Yeah.

645
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.559
So four years ago, a buddy and I were hunting

646
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:08.960
el cup in the High Uenas of Utah. Up here.

647
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.360
I've been hunting ever since I was a little kid

648
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.840
up there with my parents and my family, and generally

649
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:20.920
throughout the year. Starting in about July, I take my

650
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.360
trailer up there and we go up like every weekend

651
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:28.280
camp and do some fun things before the hunts start.

652
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.119
So where we were camp, there's a loop that goes

653
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:37.800
around this whole big area if you drive and from

654
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:41.840
where we're camp, I walk over this little ridge just

655
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:45.400
out of camp, and there's some beaver ponds and such

656
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:48.159
stuff like that that are down in there, and there's

657
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:50.079
a big game trailer comes through. So I set a

658
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:53.280
trail camera up there and kept an eye on it

659
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.119
throughout the year or throughout the months up there that

660
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.320
we were there. Sorry, and I had quite a few

661
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:02.400
elk that were on this trail camera there. So my

662
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.239
buddy and I got our archery out tags we decided

663
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.199
we were going to go up there and see if

664
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.320
we could get into some So the morning of this,

665
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:17.119
we had driven his truck up halfway around this loop

666
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:20.360
to where we could walk down into this area because

667
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:24.239
there's some big quake and aspens up at the top

668
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:28.280
of this opening that starts with these beaver ponds that

669
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:32.840
go down towards where my trail camera was. And we

670
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:34.719
decided we were going to go up there and hang

671
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.760
a couple of tree stands and just sit there throughout

672
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:42.119
the day. So we get in there, and that's what

673
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.519
we did. We hung our tree stands. We were about

674
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:48.119
twenty yards apart from each other and just sitting there

675
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:54.920
waiting and very uneventful day. Wasn't here or seeing anything,

676
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:59.360
and some I got to point out because it falls

677
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:03.119
into this situation here a little bit later. I always

678
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.199
have a side arm on me when I'm up in

679
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:11.000
the mountains, and I had this on and every time

680
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:14.199
I'd move in my tree stand, my gun would clink

681
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:17.559
on the side of the tree stands, I did my belt,

682
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:19.320
took my gun off, and I put it in my

683
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:23.400
backpack and we sat there for a few hours. And

684
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:27.840
it got about eleven o'clock in the morning, and my

685
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.320
buddy and I we decided, let's go back to camp,

686
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:32.840
get something to eat, and then we'll come back and

687
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:37.199
do the evening hunt. And so we climbed out of

688
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:41.159
our tree stands, and I decided that I would walk

689
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:44.760
down to where my trail camera was and have him

690
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:48.639
drive back around the loop to camp and so I

691
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:51.519
could check out if there was anything new on my

692
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:56.039
trail cameras. So I took off, started walking down the

693
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:59.320
draw and i'd get down where my trail camera was

694
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:03.360
and I just barely get it unlocked and open it up,

695
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:05.079
and I'm starting to look at the pictures in it,

696
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.280
and I hear a cow elk the sound they make,

697
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.360
and it was just above me, and I froze. My

698
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.760
bow was laying right next to me. And during this hunt,

699
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.639
you can shoot a cow or a bull elk, and

700
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:21.119
I'm all about putting meat in the freezer when I can.

701
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.519
So I really wasn't judgmental on what I was going

702
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:26.960
to shoot. So I readied myself with my bow as

703
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:29.480
quiet as I could, and I'm looking up in the

704
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:33.400
area of where the sound came from, which is about

705
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:37.559
seventy to eighty yards above me and some it's thick

706
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:41.440
pines that are up on this little side hill. And

707
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:43.440
so I'm just sitting there watching and I know this

708
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:47.000
trail comes right down from it, and then it's all

709
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.320
clear cut to the I guess it'd be the west

710
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:55.239
of where I'm looking, and so I'm thinking that these

711
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.880
elk are going to come walk out right up on

712
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:02.519
this trail above me, and I catch movement in the

713
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:09.320
trees and it's jet black, and I instantly just got

714
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:14.199
a bad feeling in my gut, and so I sat

715
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.920
there for a few more seconds, just, oh crap, what

716
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.559
do I do? And I thought, well, maybe it's a moose.

717
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.840
So I just sat there. I looked up there, and

718
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:28.199
I heard the elk sound again, and I'm thinking, a

719
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:33.960
moose don't make an elk sound. And so I watched

720
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:35.960
it for a little longer and I couldn't get a

721
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.800
good visual of what it was, but it's black, and

722
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.360
it was big. It was really big, and it's just

723
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:46.440
keeping itself behind these two specific trees that I can't

724
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:50.440
see it. I can see parts of it as it's moving,

725
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.880
but I can't totally make it out. At that point,

726
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:57.320
I figured I knew what it was, and so I

727
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:59.519
decided it's time to get out of here. I didn't

728
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.360
even take time to lock up my trail camera. I

729
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:04.719
just started hiking up the trail that goes up over

730
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.800
this ridge and then back down to my camp well.

731
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:12.800
I started going and I got maybe one hundred yards

732
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:16.480
away from it, and I thought, I'm gonna turn around

733
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:18.480
and see with my binocular see if I can see

734
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:22.800
anything down there. So I'm glassing down there, and I

735
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.840
don't see anything. All of a sudden, I hear that

736
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:28.719
elk sound again, and it's further to my left down

737
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:32.960
the draw, and I pinpoint it and I throw my

738
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:37.119
binoculars up and I see it and I can see

739
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:41.679
it face I can. I am looking at this through

740
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:46.159
my binoculars and I see its mouth open, and then

741
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:50.719
I hear an elk sound and it is I don't

742
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.800
know what it's doing. I don't know why it's mimicking this.

743
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:57.559
I don't know what is going on, but I'm losing

744
00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.840
my mind that I'm sitting there looking at this thing

745
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:05.599
through my binoculars in the face, and it's time just

746
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:10.119
stood still. I'm losing my mind and I'm watching this thing,

747
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:14.800
and like I say, I watch its mouth open. A

748
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:19.360
couple seconds later you hear the sound, and so I

749
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.800
try to reach down into my pocket to get my phone,

750
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:24.920
and I'm trying to line my phone up with my

751
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:30.199
binoculars to try to get a picture anything I can do,

752
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:33.079
and I'm shaking so bad at this point that i

753
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:39.079
can't do anything. And as I'm doing this, all of

754
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:42.760
a sudden, this tree it falls right behind me. It

755
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:50.000
lands like four feet to my right, and I about

756
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:53.440
lost all feeling from my neck down. I knew I

757
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.960
was in trouble. I didn't know what was going to happen,

758
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:59.840
but I tried. Everything in my body was telling me.

759
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:06.599
All I could muster out was this weird wattle as

760
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:08.559
I'm trying to go down this trail to get away

761
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:13.000
from whatever is behind me. And I didn't physically hear

762
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:16.239
it or know it was there, but like I could

763
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:20.679
sense that it was there, and I reached down to

764
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:25.440
my side to grab my gun and it's not there.

765
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:30.440
So I'm I've got a bow and an arrow, and

766
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:35.480
my gun is in my backpack. So I just kept going,

767
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.320
moving as fast as I could. I couldn't ever run,

768
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.400
I couldn't ever do anything like it had me locked up,

769
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:46.239
my body froze. I was like, it was everything I

770
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.320
could do to just wattle, is the best thing I

771
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:53.199
can say. And so I get all the way back

772
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:57.280
down towards my camp and my buddy's standing out there

773
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:01.800
by my trailer, and I get over there. I'm just

774
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:05.719
starting to tell them what happened. And this is where

775
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:10.159
the saved my life, I feel, comes in the biggest

776
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:13.199
storm that I've ever been in my life, all of

777
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:16.519
a sudden hit that place. It was blue skies when

778
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:19.199
we were out there, blue skies the whole time, and

779
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:23.280
all of a sudden it was trees blowing, hale came

780
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.840
in humongous hall. It was like I would have been

781
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:28.960
in real bad trouble if I would have still been

782
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:33.679
out in that when this hit. And so I took

783
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:36.800
the whole thing from a scary experience to thinking that

784
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:43.039
maybe they were trying to get my attention, maybe they

785
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:47.480
were trying to push me out. I don't know how

786
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.320
to explain it, but the events that happened. They were

787
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:53.840
just too weird, too crazy. I've always been a believer

788
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:58.039
since I was a little kid. My father, myself, and

789
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:03.119
my dad's friend were up in the same area first

790
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:06.559
light in the morning, coming leaving camp to go hunt elk,

791
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.639
and on the ridge line, it's this big sage rush

792
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:13.360
mountain in front of us that the road parallels the

793
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:16.840
bottom of it. It's probably six hundred yards to the top,

794
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.039
and it's a pretty steep hill. I've hiked up it

795
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.800
since then. It takes me, I don't know, forty five

796
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:26.119
minutes to get to hike up it. But we watched

797
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:33.599
two human light things run from the bottom of this

798
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:36.519
hill where there was a bunch of grove of trees.

799
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.920
They ran up that hill and they never stopped until

800
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:43.199
they got to the top of it, and it took

801
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.599
them less than a minute to do it. And that's

802
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:50.960
where my belief started with this. But when I came

803
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.880
into this situation that just happened on there, I don't

804
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:56.599
know how to explain it. I haven't talked to many

805
00:46:56.639 --> 00:47:00.760
people about it. The last time I talked to anybody

806
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:03.800
about a situation in that area, it was the Forest Service.

807
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:06.760
I told him about an experience that we were having,

808
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:12.920
and surprisingly, two weeks later that mountain side where I

809
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:16.199
was explaining to them what was going on, that mountain

810
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:17.079
side was on fire.

811
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:19.400
I was on fire.

812
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:24.239
I was expecting that. I was expecting to be shut down.

813
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.360
No, the mountain side was on fire. Because the hunts

814
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:31.760
up here, they're kind of rapid follow each other. We

815
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.639
were up on a certain hunt during the time, we

816
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.960
had some weird stuff going on, and I talked to

817
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:42.000
the Forest Service about it. We left, and I came

818
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.079
up two weeks later for my next hunt, and the

819
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:49.960
mountain side is on fire. There was actually big helicopters

820
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.239
up at that time flying through the area as well.

821
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:55.639
I don't know if they were helping trying to put

822
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:59.639
the fire out or what they were doing, but it

823
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.559
was a crazy situations. So I have never really wanted

824
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:06.360
to talk to many people about the area and about

825
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:08.440
the things that are going on because I don't want

826
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:11.559
something like that to happen again. I don't know if

827
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:17.519
they know these things are there and they kind of

828
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:20.840
a shame on you get out of here to what

829
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:23.400
they did with them, but I didn't want that to

830
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:25.880
happen again. Wow.

831
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:30.800
Probably one of the coolest accounts I've heard a while,

832
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:33.320
because it is very rare.

833
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:35.280
To hear.

834
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.360
I think I maybe have heard one other one where

835
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:44.400
the person actually saw the creature to accept out of

836
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:49.400
there like you did. So that's extremely rare and just

837
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:51.119
really awesome to hear.

838
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:57.159
Your picture in your background is like very close, Oh,

839
00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:57.719
really close.

840
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:01.599
That's awesome. What things are different?

841
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:08.000
I think this may have been like more female looking,

842
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:12.599
more full face, not maybe as much hair on the

843
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:16.119
whole face. Because I could see it. I could see it.

844
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:20.239
I could see its whole face, I could see its mouth,

845
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:24.119
I could see its nose. You could almost through my

846
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:27.679
binoculars you could almost see it like wincing with its eyes.

847
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:34.199
The eyes are They're huge and dark. There's no whites

848
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.960
anywhere in them.

849
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:44.039
My goodness. Do they make binoculars that can take pictures?

850
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:48.360
I'm not sure that'd be a heck of a invention

851
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:50.559
if they could, as far as the ones I have.

852
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.360
I have adapters from my phone for like my spotting

853
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:57.440
scope that you can put on there, but for these

854
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:00.360
binoculars that I carry when I'm in the field trying

855
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.280
to do the best I could, trying to record and everything,

856
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.760
trying to keep my lens in line with the binocular lens,

857
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.679
and it I was shaken so bad. It just it

858
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:14.880
wasn't happening very I've looked at the video and every

859
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:16.480
once in a while I can say, oh, there it was,

860
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:23.440
and but it's not anything you can really like distinctly see.

861
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.760
Yeah, hard to see. Gotcha, I got youa wow?

862
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:28.039
What?

863
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.559
Thank you for sharing. I am going to ask even though,

864
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:35.280
just because I've been asking people. So the conversation we

865
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:38.360
just had, is it I have a bigfoot podcast where

866
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:42.559
I interview people about their accounts or is this one

867
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:48.039
where you might not want to have that on that podcast?

868
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:49.159
I would be fine with it.

869
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.639
Awesome. I appreciate them. Might help some people that are

870
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:55.280
that are dealing with stuff in the same area. You

871
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:57.599
never know, man, Yeah, keep us in mind if you

872
00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:59.679
run into anything else out there, we'd love to hear

873
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:01.559
about it. So thank you for coming up.

874
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:06.199
Absolutely. I appreciate your time. Thanks for having this platform.

875
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:08.840
It's pretty cool to be able to talk about it

876
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:10.880
and not sit there and have people laugh at you

877
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:11.960
or think you're an idiot.

878
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:14.119
Yeah, that's exactly why I do it. So I'm glad

879
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:16.280
you're able to take part in that it's cool y,

880
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:18.320
just stick around if you can, and thanks for being here.

881
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:20.440
Absolutely well, they'll appreciate it.

882
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:24.480
Hey, Michelle, how are you good? How are you great?

883
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:25.679
What brings you up tonight?

884
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:29.400
So I had an experience. It was probably about fifteen

885
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:34.559
years ago. I'm now thirty five. So this has nothing

886
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:37.000
to do with camping, if that's okay? Was not camping?

887
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:38.599
Was it?

888
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:42.880
To still live in a small town Pennsylvania. Had a boyfriend.

889
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.360
He lived about three miles outside of the town that

890
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:49.840
I'm at, so went out to his house for a while.

891
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:53.519
It was probably one two am. My dad had came

892
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:56.960
to pick me up from the house and we were

893
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:01.119
on the way home and it's I mean like it's

894
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.719
not busy, and like now it's wharehouses has been.

895
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:06.320
Built up, and back then it was woodzo.

896
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.119
So we're on the way home, speed limits probably fifty

897
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:14.559
five to sixty and driving it, like I said, about

898
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:15.840
three miles back to my house.

899
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:18.400
All of a sudden we see something.

900
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:23.000
It was all fours when we've seen it, okay, and

901
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:26.840
then we're probably ten to fifteen foot at this point,

902
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:30.760
no time to react. And it was my dad was driving,

903
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:33.880
so we both see it. He tries to lock up

904
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:36.960
the brakes. There was nothing we could do, so we

905
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:43.400
hit it. It immediately windshields smashed. Course, it was pretty

906
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.599
much total and I knew we had to hit it

907
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:48.679
at sixty it would have been about fifty five sixty

908
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:52.079
miles an hour, and I'm like, what, thinking maybe a bear,

909
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:56.079
But at the last moment it was up on all fours.

910
00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:57.760
We hit it.

911
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.320
He managed to get to stop up side of the road.

912
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:04.719
I mean immediately dial nine to one one, called the

913
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:09.079
cops or call ums because the windshield his head had

914
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:12.960
went through. So I'm like thinking, get out, don't get out.

915
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:16.639
I want to see what this is. They're they're like

916
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:19.280
two miles from EMS. Was like two miles up the

917
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:20.360
road going back.

918
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.719
Sorry, head of the driver or head of the whatever

919
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:24.079
it is.

920
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.519
You hit driver. So I was in the passenger seat

921
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:27.440
and he was driving.

922
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:31.800
So he gets off the road and hurry up, call

923
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:34.360
nine to one one because he can't see glasses in

924
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:38.559
his eye. So they sunned m Mass as well as

925
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:42.559
state police. So we're out outside of the township, so

926
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:46.320
state police, but they got there probably five to ten minutes,

927
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:50.599
and I said, I'm pretty sure I don't know a

928
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.920
bear that stands in runs like that. I said her

929
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:56.800
a deer. So the cops get there, they get my

930
00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:00.400
dad in the back of the ambulance. He's you know,

931
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:03.320
I'm freaking because I know what we're seeing. He sees it,

932
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:06.440
I see it, and it was like said all last minute.

933
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:10.800
They send the cops out and they there. There wasn't

934
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:14.199
many houses on this drout stretch. It's it's called Route eleven,

935
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:18.119
so it goes like Pennsylvania, it goes also into Maryland.

936
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.920
They probably looked for twenty minutes. Whatever it was should

937
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:25.519
have been dead. They find nothing. Now he goes to

938
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:29.960
the hospital. They're saying, I'm overreacting. I'm thinking, I know

939
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:32.960
what I've seen it. So next day we go home

940
00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:34.920
and he was driving like a suburban.

941
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.519
It was like a jeep. I'd say, I think it

942
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.480
was a jeep Cherokee. It was a big vehicle.

943
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:44.079
Now, when we got home the next day, we got

944
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:46.800
to looking cause and there was a big patch of

945
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:52.440
hair in the windshield. But also i'm gonna say probably

946
00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:55.280
twice the size of a human handprint, and it was

947
00:54:55.360 --> 00:54:57.360
on the side as if the thing stood up and

948
00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:59.440
stopped it. I don't know how you could stop a vehicle.

949
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.519
It's it sounds crazy, and I knew I don't tell

950
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:05.639
this story this first time I've actually told it. But

951
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:10.800
there was a handprint there and we thought, you know,

952
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:12.920
tell the cop, maybe try to get in touch with

953
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:13.639
the cops again.

954
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:16.000
But they blew us off as you're crazy.

955
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.280
You didn't hit nothing. How's vehicle totaled? We had it

956
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:21.599
killed some That can't be a deer. The deer would

957
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:23.960
be dead if that was a bear. Why did it

958
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:27.239
stand up and run off? But to this day nothing

959
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:32.199
was ever We're in central Pennsylvania, but I've not seen

960
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:34.440
nothing like that since now. Like I said, it's been

961
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:38.039
the woods have been totaled due to warehousing and stuff

962
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:41.519
like that. But crazy, crazy encounter.

963
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:44.440
Okay, so let me make sure you got this right.

964
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:48.000
So you guys were driving along, you hit something, It

965
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:51.559
broke the windshield or no, you're the driver went through

966
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:54.119
the windshield and then it got up and ran off

967
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:55.159
into the woods.

968
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:59.360
Yes, he didn't go out the vehicle, but he hit

969
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.159
his head real hard and it cracked the entire windshield.

970
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:06.880
Okay, can you share what year this happened?

971
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:11.199
It would have been so I would have been Okay,

972
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:12.360
I'm thirty five.

973
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:14.400
I'm gonna say I was twenty.

974
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.400
So fifteen it would have been about fifteen years ago,

975
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:20.719
so twenty ten.

976
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:26.000
Yeah, okay, can you share the area if you said

977
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:27.119
Central Pa?

978
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:29.360
Yes, So we're like an hour and a half outside

979
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:34.519
of Harrisburg. It's Franklin County, Franklin County, Pennsylvania, and it

980
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:37.840
also goes into I don't know if you're familiar, but Hagerstown,

981
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.960
Maryland is about a ten minute drive as well. But

982
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:44.159
this is more of like where when it was royal, Like,

983
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:45.519
that's more city.

984
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:48.440
This area just came up earlier tonight.

985
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:49.800
Real, it's crazy.

986
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.519
Yeah, it was a guy who was talking about stuff

987
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:56.159
that was happening and was bishaw Stay Forest was it

988
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:56.760
around there?

989
00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:00.599
It really sucked me that we could hit something going

990
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:04.159
that fast and they couldn't find anything, and it was

991
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:07.199
two or three cops out there looking. It's not a

992
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:09.159
slip road. It's not like where you go twenty twenty.

993
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:11.199
It's fifty five to sixty in the stretch.

994
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:12.239
Did you keep the hair?

995
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:15.800
I honestly wish we would have and we think about

996
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:16.960
that all the time, if we.

997
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:19.440
Just would have bagged that back then.

998
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.440
But they made us feel like we were crazy at

999
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:25.039
the time, especially myself because he was in the back

1000
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.039
of the ambulance because he had the glass in the

1001
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:29.960
eyes and everything. But they made it fill to where

1002
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:33.440
you didn't do nothing. How did my vehicle get totaled?

1003
00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:38.599
And but yeah, it was more like you're losing your

1004
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:42.400
mind type thing and we know what we're seeing this day.

1005
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:46.000
I know, wow, that is I have never talked to

1006
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:51.320
anyone who has out a person first secondhand, I haven't

1007
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:55.599
talked to anyone like you who has said they hit something.

1008
00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:59.280
And to tell you how tall it stood, it was

1009
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.320
well over the vehicle, I'm gonna say it was probably

1010
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:07.519
ten to twelve foot tall easy. Wow, huge and based

1011
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:10.239
on even when they when we see the handprint that

1012
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:12.639
unlike any human, the cop couldn't have left that.

1013
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:13.760
It was huge.

1014
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:18.159
It was probably a foot and length, I'd say easy,

1015
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:20.639
and I wish I would have got pictures back then.

1016
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:24.000
It wasn't that much with the cell phones and think.

1017
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:28.239
Long term, but we both agreed to do whatever we

1018
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:30.559
would have. Don't make us feel crazy. We know what

1019
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:31.400
we experienced.

1020
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:34.639
Yeah, and that's a tricky one too, because if you're

1021
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:36.719
with a person where they went through the windshield. They

1022
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.159
have stuff glass in their eye. You're going to be

1023
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:42.000
focusing on that. That's what you should be focusing on.

1024
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:45.079
And once they got them in though I even I

1025
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.000
was telling the cops like, this is the way it ran,

1026
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:48.320
it's got to be dead.

1027
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:52.559
Nothing. They just you're crazy, you're great.

1028
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:55.960
What were you able to see anything about the base

1029
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:56.280
at all?

1030
00:58:58.000 --> 00:58:58.559
See anything?

1031
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:02.000
What any face details or anything about art.

1032
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:04.519
It was very hairy.

1033
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:07.199
I didn't see a whole lot of the face because

1034
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:09.039
of how it happened.

1035
00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:10.480
But it was huge. It was huge.

1036
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:14.199
It was all for as far as I could see.

1037
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:15.719
Like I said, didn't see a whole lot of the

1038
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:19.760
face detail, but it was like I would have thought,

1039
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.039
like a bear running up right. But then when we

1040
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:24.159
did look at the fur, it was like a brown

1041
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:25.440
and mostly black.

1042
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:28.559
Though, okay, that's wild.

1043
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:32.079
That is absolutely wild. Is to say a conversation I

1044
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:34.480
could put on a big Foot podcast.

1045
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:37.559
I am absolutely and I appreciate anybody judging because I

1046
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:39.239
know a lot of people I've told the story.

1047
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:41.480
They look at you like you're crazy, and I know

1048
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:43.159
I'm not crazy. I know what I've seen.

1049
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:46.719
Another thing I want to say on that too, is

1050
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:51.840
since that happened. My dad has been a lot more spiritual.

1051
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:53.639
If I could worry it like that, like some of

1052
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.920
the stuff that he can sense and see. I don't

1053
00:59:56.920 --> 00:59:58.440
know if it would have been linked to it or

1054
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:03.880
if he had that prior, but just yeah, it's all

1055
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:10.440
if he senses something is around like it's he's seen

1056
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:13.920
different apparition. I know not everybody believes in that too,

1057
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:19.280
different people in his lifetime. It's I don't know, it's

1058
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:21.639
almost went hand in hand because he never talked about

1059
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:22.119
it before.

1060
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:26.639
But yeah, the amount of people I talked to where

1061
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:29.960
they have some kind of interaction and then that stuff

1062
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.159
gigs in, it's really weird. You're not the only person

1063
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:33.920
to bring that up.

1064
01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:38.760
Awesome. I appreciate it. You don't make me feel crazy.

1065
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:42.280
Because I know this is why I do all this,

1066
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:46.800
so that people have a place to to talk about experience.

1067
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:49.079
But thank you so much for coming out, Michelle. I

1068
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:49.800
appreciate it.

1069
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.639
Thank you and you guys have a good night you too.

1070
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:56.119
By plant.

1071
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:05.400
That that was some wild stuff. Wow it stuff? Oh

1072
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:09.159
my guness how's it going?

1073
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:10.599
I didn't mean the joint.

1074
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:13.159
I was actually just clicking and liking, but my boyfriend

1075
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.760
was sitting here listening and he has a big flist story.

1076
01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:19.960
Yeah, you want to tell him beb about your situation.

1077
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:21.760
Yeah.

1078
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:23.800
Here, I'll had the fun to him because he's the

1079
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:25.199
one who's been sitting here.

1080
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:26.039
Listening the most.

1081
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:28.960
Yeah, the story's really interesting.

1082
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:31.119
Yeah.

1083
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:39.920
This was back in nineteen probably eighty seven, okay, eighty seven,

1084
01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:44.320
somewhere around there. We were going camping. There was a

1085
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:47.679
bunch of us and we all had four drives and

1086
01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:53.880
we were in the in central California up around Clearly

1087
01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:59.000
and there's some back roads up there that go off

1088
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:03.079
the road. There's a place called stony Ford and Indian

1089
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:07.719
Valley Reservoir, and that's where we were at Indian Valley Reservoir,

1090
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.440
and we had a camp made a camp there and

1091
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:12.519
it's a place out in the middle of nowhere. You

1092
01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:15.559
go about fifty miles off off road to get to

1093
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:21.039
that destination. You leave the main highway and you travel

1094
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:22.719
on a dirt road. It goes all the way up

1095
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:27.039
through the mountains and it's about fifty miles and anyways,

1096
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:29.559
it's a place where you don't see nobody. He can

1097
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:32.199
be up there for a week and if you see anybody,

1098
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:36.039
it'll be like a game warden or something that drives

1099
01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:38.519
by or something like that. And so we was up

1100
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:44.119
there and there was about probably ten of us and

1101
01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:45.960
most of the guys that went to sleep, and there

1102
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:48.920
was me and two other guys had stayed up. And

1103
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.800
it was around midnight, and it happened to be a

1104
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:56.440
full moon, and there was a hill at the base

1105
01:02:56.480 --> 01:02:59.119
of our camp. At the base of our camp, there

1106
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:01.519
was a hill that went right up to the main

1107
01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:04.039
road up towards the top.

1108
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:06.239
It went up probably.

1109
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:08.679
About football a football field.

1110
01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:13.599
Like, going straight up to the road, and the moon

1111
01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:16.599
was coming up right behind that, and there was one

1112
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:21.679
tree up there up there on that road where we

1113
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:26.119
come down. We come down that path down to where

1114
01:03:26.119 --> 01:03:31.159
we camped, and anyways, so the moon was coming up

1115
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:33.719
and it was you could see the silhouette of that

1116
01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:37.760
tree when the moon, and that tree was probably about

1117
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:42.960
probably about twelve to fifteen feet tall. And we had

1118
01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:47.599
a Doberman pincer with us, full grown, and we were

1119
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:50.239
just sitting there by the campfire, and I had a

1120
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:53.800
shot gun laying across my lap, and we were just

1121
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:56.800
sitting there and just talking, just me and the other

1122
01:03:56.840 --> 01:04:01.079
two guys, and we heard the screen sound. It was

1123
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:04.760
a sound that unlike I'd never heard anything.

1124
01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:05.159
Like that before.

1125
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:09.719
And we looked up towards the top of the up

1126
01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:13.039
to the top of the hill where that tree was,

1127
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:19.039
and it was standing there, this bigfoot thang or sasquatch

1128
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:21.800
or whatever you want to call it, and it had

1129
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:23.760
its arms up in the air and you could see

1130
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:28.159
the hair that was hanging off his elbows and his

1131
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:32.760
like were his biceps are underneath. You could see him

1132
01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:35.360
through the moonlight because the moon was right behind him,

1133
01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:40.239
and his arms were as tall as that tree. It

1134
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:43.800
was standing like right against that tree. The dog ended

1135
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:48.320
up taking off after him, and we're yelling. The dog's

1136
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:51.840
name was Boom, and I was going, Boom, get back here,

1137
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:54.760
come on. So I fired a shot up in the

1138
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:58.519
air and the thing took off. But I'd never seen

1139
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:04.559
or heard a scream like that thing made.

1140
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:05.519
It was loud.

1141
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:10.519
It was loud, like almost ear piercing scream, but with

1142
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:14.159
a with a with a deep growl like in it,

1143
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:16.119
not like a growl, but like a.

1144
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:18.039
Just weird.

1145
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:21.320
I've never heard nothing like that before. I've never heard

1146
01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:25.039
nothing like that before. And anyways, we went back up there.

1147
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:28.880
It was like I said it was midnight, and we

1148
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:32.519
went up there the next day, the next following morning

1149
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:36.119
when it was sunlight, and we went to look for tracks.

1150
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:40.159
And because we was up there deer hunting and there

1151
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:42.960
was nothing, I meant there was no tracks. There was

1152
01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:50.199
nothing up there. But yeah, it was trippy.

1153
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:53.679
That's some wild stuff. I've heard a few things, not

1154
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.800
from that area, but I've heard the Blue Lakes and

1155
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:01.000
the Harbor Hot Springs. But yeah, Indian Valley Reservoir. That's

1156
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.920
a first for me. I appreciate you coming up and

1157
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:05.920
sharing what you experienced. Sir.

1158
01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:08.960
Yeah, yeah, thank you your name.

1159
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:13.519
Yeah, it's just a conversation I could use in a

1160
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:14.719
big Foot podcast that I have.

1161
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:15.920
Yes, you can.

1162
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:17.920
I'm actually writing a story on man.

1163
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:20.239
Oh, you're writing a book.

1164
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:22.199
Yeah, that's okay though, go ahead and music.

1165
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:26.280
Hey, when you get that book published, send me an

1166
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:28.800
email at big Society at gmail dot com. I'd like

1167
01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:29.400
to know about that.

1168
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:37.159
Okay, all right, Well, awesome be talking to you.

1169
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:40.639
And telling me podcast. All right, Thanks?

1170
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:47.480
Hi there, how are you hi, Jeremiah. It's it's Tim

1171
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:49.239
from the Lake Cushman.

1172
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:52.400
I was just thinking about you today. I was thinking

1173
01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:54.599
about you an hour ago. I was like, I bet

1174
01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:57.440
Tim has updates and I need to reach out to them, and.

1175
01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:02.119
I absolutely, which absolutely thanks for.

1176
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:02.920
Having me on man.

1177
01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:06.199
I haven't connected to you on TikTok yet, but yeah,

1178
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:10.360
I guess I could just quickly recap refresh for people.

1179
01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:14.000
My girlfriend and I we go out. We've got a

1180
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:17.400
property that's just for camping over on the Olympic Peninsula

1181
01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:21.400
near Lake Cushman, and it borders up against wilderness. It

1182
01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:25.760
connects a ravine behind our property connects into Olympic National

1183
01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:30.679
Park through forests, and just to sum it up, last year,

1184
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.280
we went out camping and there was snow on the ground.

1185
01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:36.880
We weren't expecting it. We went walking back into the

1186
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:43.880
ravine and found clear clear sasquatch tracks child's print inside

1187
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:48.599
of a parent's footprint, and I think things began to

1188
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:52.519
escalate from there. The next day we had a sighting

1189
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:56.119
of I should say it had a sighting of us.

1190
01:07:56.159 --> 01:08:00.400
Really it was peeking over the fence that borders the ravine,

1191
01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:05.320
and I can describe it now as brown sugar, you

1192
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:09.519
know what, like the light tan of brown sugar. So

1193
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:13.159
have you heard that before, that that's a common color

1194
01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:15.800
of these I've never.

1195
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:18.319
Heard it explained in that way. That is a new

1196
01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:18.800
one for me.

1197
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:22.000
Actually, I've been thinking, and I'm an artist, so I

1198
01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:24.479
think about color quite a bit, and I've been thinking, like,

1199
01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:26.760
what how do I describe It's like coyote, It's like

1200
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:32.239
it's brown sugar. It's just that muted kind of beige. Anyway,

1201
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:38.000
this head that popped up twice in my peripheral, so

1202
01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:43.239
I didn't make eye contact with it. But anyway, from

1203
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:50.880
there on it's been visitations, and the visitations have been

1204
01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:57.720
pretty steady. I've been out there camping every month over

1205
01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:01.520
the last year, including throughout the win cure. I've been

1206
01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:06.680
planting trees on the land so that it can reforest.

1207
01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:11.199
And I think it's the frequency of being out there

1208
01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:18.399
that we've were toyed with, played with. I'm thinking they're

1209
01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:25.640
juveniles because the little kind of gestures that they do,

1210
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:30.680
which are house do you explain? You're sitting around a

1211
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:35.760
fire at night and a tiny pebble just goes whizzing

1212
01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:38.800
through the air and h's my girlfriend in the back

1213
01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:41.439
of the head. Not painful, it's not a big rock.

1214
01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:45.000
It's like a little zinger hit the lawn chair. We've

1215
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:47.920
got those old aluminum lawn chairs that have the metal

1216
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:52.439
they pulled out metal legs. I'm sitting there and just

1217
01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:57.840
ding hits the chair. But my favorite, I think, are

1218
01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:02.520
the sticks that they gift and we will find them

1219
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:06.479
shoved into the ground where we walk at the edge

1220
01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:09.920
of our camp the overnight. Wake up in the morning

1221
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:15.239
and there's a like a ten inch sharp broken stick

1222
01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:18.760
that looks like it was manhandled and then just shoved

1223
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:24.119
into the dirt. That was really cool. And then there's

1224
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:29.920
one other one. Oh boy, it's a primitive campsite. We

1225
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:32.359
have to do our business in the woods. A bit

1226
01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:37.199
rock just goes whizz and by me and it hits.

1227
01:10:37.319 --> 01:10:39.920
It's on a slope and it hits the ground and

1228
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:46.000
just goes And I don't know how they could throw

1229
01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:48.960
a rock the size of a baseball.

1230
01:10:49.399 --> 01:10:49.560
Like.

1231
01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:55.119
It had to come from across the road, so we're

1232
01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:59.439
talking like a football field, like one hundred yards. Anyway,

1233
01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:04.960
it's just it's just been it's been an interesting ongoing presence,

1234
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:10.119
the calls that we're getting. I told you last time

1235
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:13.560
about the fake duck, and you've had several people even

1236
01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:18.199
around around the Hood Canal, around the Olympic Peninsula. It's

1237
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.119
the duck that turns into a growl at the end.

1238
01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:24.479
And it happens at midnight. When how many times do

1239
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:27.399
you hear a duck just in the woods in a

1240
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:34.239
ravine at midnight and then turn into a growl. So, yeah, man,

1241
01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:38.000
I went camping with buddies there in May. There's just

1242
01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:44.079
been a continual just enough that it's a really quiet area.

1243
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:47.079
We're the only ones that are camping usually when we

1244
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:53.680
camp weekdays off season, and so we're making noise, we're laughing.

1245
01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:59.119
My girlfriend's got a really sharp, explosive laugh, and I

1246
01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:01.199
think that that is, I don't know, like an alarm

1247
01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:03.560
that they're like, oh, they're here, let's go, let's go spy.

1248
01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:09.119
I just love the idea that they're spying on us.

1249
01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:12.159
That's awesome, man, it's so cool to hear that you're

1250
01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:16.399
still having stuff happen in that area. I know, because

1251
01:12:16.399 --> 01:12:22.560
you were starting to ask other people, and I think

1252
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:25.319
you were talking to a country store in the area.

1253
01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:27.239
Is that right? Yeah?

1254
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:31.039
They Yeah, I definitely they changed owners that little store.

1255
01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:33.359
But I made good friends with the owner and before

1256
01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:36.720
he left, and yeah, showed him and his son, the prince,

1257
01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:41.439
And yeah, I haven't really met in the neighbors. It's

1258
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:44.600
a hard topic to bring up. There's a lot of

1259
01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:47.399
retired folks that live out there too, and it's I

1260
01:12:47.560 --> 01:12:51.680
want to people can take it one way or the other.

1261
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:54.520
It seems like when you bring up that topic, and

1262
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:57.239
I have been I have had the ridicule and I've

1263
01:12:57.279 --> 01:13:02.359
had the look at you like crazy thing. But now

1264
01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:06.000
I've experienced enough, and I've listened to every one of

1265
01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:12.840
your podcasts and several other podcasts, and it's duh, there

1266
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:20.359
is this reality. These are subjects of a phenomenon, and

1267
01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:22.760
you can't deny that. You cannot deny that there are

1268
01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:26.960
subjects of a phenomenon. It was plainly put.

1269
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:33.159
So anyway it'd be interesting. Sometimes you can try to

1270
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:36.840
not just jump right into big footstuff, but you can

1271
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:38.840
be like, hey, you ever seen anything weird around here?

1272
01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:43.119
Something like that, yeah, or here I.

1273
01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:47.319
Can get weird because it's mainly audio, it's little gifts.

1274
01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:50.319
I was just out there two nights for two nights,

1275
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:55.159
and there was a little mushroom left on. I've built

1276
01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:57.439
this kind of not even a fence. It's a hitchin

1277
01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:01.520
post out of driftwood, and it's just the backdrop of

1278
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:04.920
the fire pit and there's a little mushroom left just

1279
01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:09.520
sitting so perfectly set, and it's yes, it could be

1280
01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:14.079
a squirrel, Yes, something else could have dropped it there.

1281
01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:15.000
But the truth is.

1282
01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:20.439
I can't rule out the reality that there's sasquatch around.

1283
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:24.079
They've shown it to us, they've shown themselves. It's really exciting.

1284
01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:27.520
And then here's why I called or why I requested

1285
01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:31.640
this is I had a one on one experience for

1286
01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:35.520
the first time that I know of, and this happened

1287
01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:38.520
in May. And I was camping alone. And I do

1288
01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:41.720
like the camp alone too. I just it's so far

1289
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:45.239
out and away from everything, so I just feel free.

1290
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:50.279
And man, I was singing. I was standing next to

1291
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:54.800
the fire, singing my heart out. I don't really do

1292
01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:58.079
it home, or you'd do that while driving, but I'm singing,

1293
01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:02.000
and I'm singing this song by Beach House and it's

1294
01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:04.640
the song is called Used to Be, and it's just

1295
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:12.520
really just emotional, cathartic song about coming home. Is the

1296
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:16.039
line coming home, and I'm belting and I'm just like,

1297
01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:21.880
goh me, you know, it's this long drawn out thing.

1298
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:25.359
And right after I did that, I lost myself. I

1299
01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:28.439
wasn't aware of where I was. It was just one

1300
01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:31.760
of those moments where I'm just like I am the song,

1301
01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:35.960
the song is me. I'm not anywhere. And right after

1302
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:42.159
I sung that, probably thirty feet away, right at the

1303
01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:47.800
edge of our camp in the shadows, a big voice

1304
01:15:48.159 --> 01:15:55.840
came through and sung right back at me. And it

1305
01:15:56.039 --> 01:16:04.560
wasn't just a whoop, it was like a who that's

1306
01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:07.319
what it sounded like. It was several notes put together.

1307
01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.800
And I was alone and I don't have weapons. I

1308
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.479
never have owned a gun. I don't I don't even

1309
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:21.199
think on that level. But wow, it's just they say

1310
01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:26.680
your blood runs cold. It was like, okay, that's a voice.

1311
01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:32.159
That's kind of language, but it's responding to my singing.

1312
01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:37.319
I don't know what to do next. What's the protocol

1313
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:38.960
after that happens?

1314
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:41.560
Do you sing back to it?

1315
01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:42.119
It's I don't.

1316
01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:45.479
I don't feel like I feel like I should have

1317
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:51.840
sung back. But I freaked out and I started. We

1318
01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:53.760
have a trailer, and so I went in the trailer

1319
01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:59.000
and retreated and then I'm like, hang on, get over

1320
01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:02.239
this moment, go back out, and I did, and I

1321
01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:06.960
went back out and it was dead silent, and I

1322
01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:10.479
paused the music, and I'm like, hang on, let's keep

1323
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.479
the music going. I let it play. I started talking

1324
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:20.239
to whoever was there out loud. I stood on our

1325
01:17:20.239 --> 01:17:24.840
picnic table and showed my hands. I repeated some of

1326
01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:28.720
the words that I had heard last year, which are

1327
01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:31.279
like this three syllable.

1328
01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:34.760
Oh wah, oh this is what we heard.

1329
01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:36.960
It was like, oh wow, oh so I said that.

1330
01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:41.279
I'm just like, I don't know what it means, but anyway,

1331
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:45.159
that's just a I just wanted to connect and just

1332
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:45.520
share that.

1333
01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:45.760
Yeah.

1334
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:47.960
Man, it's still it's still hop in place.

1335
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:49.000
Man.

1336
01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:52.279
I'm so glad that we're talking right now because literally

1337
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:54.720
I was gonna try to reach out to you tomorrow.

1338
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:55.920
It's weird.

1339
01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:00.760
Wow, But dude, that's awesome. It's still going on for you.

1340
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:03.760
I hope it continues. This is this a chat I

1341
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:05.479
could put on the podcast as well?

1342
01:18:06.199 --> 01:18:10.079
Oh yeah, absolutely, I'd be happy if you did. And yeah,

1343
01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:12.479
it's been a wild night, hasn't it so many?

1344
01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:17.600
But Jude, Yeah, I hope to hear from me again.

1345
01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:19.920
Maybe in a few months, but always good to hear

1346
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:21.279
from you. Tim. You have a good one, man.

1347
01:18:22.079 --> 01:18:22.920
Thank you, Jeremia.

1348
01:18:22.920 --> 01:18:24.920
I have a great night, man, you too.

1349
01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:31.520
Right before we wrap this episode, I want to say

1350
01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:34.960
something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If

1351
01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:38.720
you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if

1352
01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:41.640
you've seen something that no one can explain, or if

1353
01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:44.840
you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been

1354
01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:48.119
told to stay quiet. If you're a pilot who's seen

1355
01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:51.399
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

1356
01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:55.079
the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

1357
01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:58.279
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

1358
01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:01.680
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

1359
01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:05.039
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1360
01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:09.399
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1361
01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:12.560
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1362
01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:16.039
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1363
01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:19.960
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1364
01:19:19.960 --> 01:19:23.359
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1365
01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:26.359
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1366
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:29.840
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1367
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:33.680
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

1368
01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:37.079
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't.

1369
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:41.880
Then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1370
01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:47.239
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1371
01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:50.079
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1372
01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:56.039
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1373
01:19:56.439 --> 01:20:00.279
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1374
01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:03.159
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

1375
01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:05.640
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1376
01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:08.800
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1377
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