Oct. 8, 2025

What is Happening in Fall Creek, Oregon? | Ad-Free

What is Happening in Fall Creek, Oregon? | Ad-Free

What happens when eyewitnesses from four corners of the continent come forward in one episode — each describing the same impossible creature?



In this special compilation, Jeremiah Byron of the Bigfoot Society Podcast sits down with ordinary people who have seen the extraordinary. It begins in Lane County, Oregon, where Terri locks eyes with a towering black figure near Fall Creek Reservoir. Rocks are thrown, whoops echo through the timber, and the silence that follows is worse than any sound.



From there, we move east to Putnam County, West Virginia, where a man’s dogs draw out juvenile Sasquatch that ride on their backs and mimic his voice from the woods. In Massachusetts and the Blue Ridge Mountains, a rider hears an unhuman scream that echoes through the night. And finally, in the wilderness north of Sault Ste. Marie, a traveler witnesses a blonde Sasquatch drinking from a waterfall — an image too real to forget.



From Oregon’s Cascades to Canada’s canyons, these are the firsthand accounts that remind us: the forest is watching.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. We

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got the privilege of talking to Terry today. Terry is

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out there from Lane County, Oregon, and we got connected

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after I saw Terry's comment on a recent Oregon episode,

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and she's got some really interesting things to share about

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the lull Fall Creek lookout Point Lake area, which is

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just to the west of Oakridge there, so a lot

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of really interesting things are going to be shared in

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this one. I know we've talked a little bit off

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record already, but welcome to the show.

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Terry.

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How are you doing today?

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I'm doing well, Thank you.

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Absolutely as you probably know, this is one of my

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favorite places to talk about. I just really love this

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area Oakridge, and you know, I always drive I have

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to drive from Eugene to oak Ridge, always drive by

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this reservoir and it's like once you hit the last time,

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especially once I hit this area, I was like, when

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is it going to feel weird again? And it was like, damn,

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once you hit that reservoir on fifty eight something about it.

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I was like, Oh, it's right now. It's just such

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such a fun, weird area. And one of these days

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I need to cross that bridge and go over into

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loll And Wineberry and Fall Creek and see what is

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going on over there. So we'll see me Maybe that

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will happen in the future. But you know, Terry, I

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would love to hear what you've experienced. Feel free, you know,

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to take us back as far back as you want to,

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when you first started experiencing some things out of the

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ordinary in this area.

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Okay, my husband and I and my family have hunted

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in the Fall Creek, Windberry Lookout oak Ridge area for

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as long as I can remember, and I've always had

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a feeling, you know that maybe there is something different.

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Well in October two thousand and three, my husband and

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I we were elk hunting, and it was maybe mid afternoon,

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getting towards maybe three four o'clock, and our hunting party

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just kind of split up for the day because we've

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been having kind of a time and not really seeing

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much for for animals, and so my husband and I said, well,

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let's make one more loop and we'll go down around

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Wimble Pass. Anybody who's familiar with the area knows that

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Wimble Pass goes from the top of Bute Disappointment as

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it's called, but we call it Little Butte and it

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drops down the north side to Windbury Road, which goes

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around Big Fall Creek Reservoir. So we decided to go up.

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So we went up, and we got an opportunity to

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see a bull elk, so that didn't pan out for us,

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so we turned around and we went back down, and

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then we took this road that would take us towards

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the end of Little Butte and we happen to look

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up in this clear in this huge cutting, and we're

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looking at saying, why is someone out there in black?

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This is bear season, thinking as somebody's just out there

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running around looking for mushrooms or something. So we pulled

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up to the landing, stopped and got out and I

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looked up and what I was seeing I did not

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believe I was seeing. The feelings that I had were

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not like to get my gun or anything like that.

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I didn't feel like I was threatened. It was more

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or less like we were locked on each other's eyes.

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He was. It was probably I don't know if it

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was a heat, but it was probably maybe two hundred

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yards away, and it looked like it was only maybe

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one hundred yards away because of the size. And just

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as I went to look over to get my binoculars,

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and as I was putting them up to my face,

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it did the typical bigfoot turn and step to go

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behind a big brush pile, and we know brush piles

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aren't small. And after that occurrence, I didn't know if

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I wanted to go back in the woods again. I

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was like scared, And it changes you completely, changes how

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you look at things after that. So now I'm intrigued.

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I want to see one again. And I have found

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out that my husband a family friend have also had

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experiences on the same ridgeline. Our family friend had rocks

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thrown at him. He thought it was my brother messing

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with him. He turned around and was storming back up

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to the truck and my brother was sitting there on

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the tailgate smoking a cigarette, not even winded. And then

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my husband had something behind some fine naples going back

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and forth, and he thought for sure it was an elk,

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but there was no odor or anything. But he said

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whatever it was wouldn't come out, and it was pretty heavy.

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Like I said, we've been in these mountains for a

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long time. There is someone who used to live up

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Windbury Creek. I don't know if they still do, and

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I've never seen him. I haven't seen him in probably

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fifteen years. And I would actually like to talk to

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him sometime because he always drove around and he had

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a bigfoot figuring in his vehicle and I am just

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curious as if you know, there wasn't something going on there.

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But anyway, get back on track. We've had a rock

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thrown at our vehicle when we were out hunting. It

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was on an uphill grade and we were on a

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corner and it directly hit the side of the pickup

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and there there were marks and everything. We looked around

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nothing and let's see, we camped up at fall Creek Reservoir.

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We've heard whoops, and we've heard trees falling over, we've

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heard big splashes in the water. I know someone who

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used to work for Oregon State Parks up there, and

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she said after every season that they were closed. When

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they would go there to open and get things cleaned up,

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pickup branches or whatever, there was some awfully weird things

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that like structures and little in the windows that were

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left around, and she said it was quite quite interesting

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at times. And off of Wimble Pass, I was at

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the vehicle. My husband and our friend were off walking

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down through the woods and everything was quiet and there

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was wood knocks going on and I and this was

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right after we had had our encounter, and so I

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was a little scared. So I would got back in

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the truck. And now it's like I'm going around listening

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for stuff, looking for staff. But I have definitely had

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my fair share of encounters. So sorry if I jumped

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around a little bit, But if you have any questions,

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Jeremiah just jumped right in. And I wanted to mention

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that my very first encounter, which I didn't realize at

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the time what it was, was when I was in

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I think I had just graduated high school and I

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was sitting in the driveway with my boyfriend and I

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hear something behind us, and I turn around and look,

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and there's this black silhouette that was bigger than any

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man that I've ever seen. And my boyfriend had said

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something like, you know, who are you or what do

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you want? And by the time we turned the vehicle around,

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whoever that was was gone, completely gone. So that was

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my very first experience, which I had forgotten about that,

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and I had put it way back, and I just

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actually remembered it like about two months ago. I've heard

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people mention this on this podcast before, and I didn't

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realize it until I was just like, you know what,

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I've had other experiences. Why didn't I notice that? And

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I have camped it ivan Oaks before, which I know

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that there's another report out of ivan Oaks. I never

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had any experiences there, but you know, and maybe I

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wasn't noticing then, but it's a really neat area, and

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you know, some sometime I want to go back and

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I and I just want to take my time and

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and kind of hang out and do some own research

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of my own. But I think that that's probably everything

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that I have experienced in a nutshell, but I am,

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you know, looking to experience more. So I think that's

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all I have.

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Yeah, there is a lot that that was just shared

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in that amount of time. Was thank you, Terry for

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sharing that. We have a lot of stuff to go over.

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So you had mentioned your earlier sightings to me before

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the recording started. Are you comfortable to share because it's

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a different town where that sighting happened in?

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Absolutely? Yeah. It was just outside of Jasper, up Wallace

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Creek Road, and our house was probably two and a

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half miles off the main road up towards the top

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of the canyon. So what it looks like is that

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when you when you're driving along Wallas Creek Road, it's

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kind of flat and everything, and then right before you

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turn off to go to our on our road, to

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go to our house, you would start winding up the

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canyon and going upgrade. And then our property was on

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the left hand side, kind of on a hillside, and

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there was a creek that ran down Wallas Creek Road,

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which of course Wallas Creek, and that was at our

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twenty acre homestead just outside of Jasper, and that was

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probably nineteen eighty six or seven, gotcha.

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I know that I know of at least one other

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sighting that happened around Jasper. It was much more recent.

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I believe they saw one running on the side of

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a hill and almost it was running super super fast.

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And I can't remember the exact year. I'd have to look.

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So listeners will definitely want to look at the sighting

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map that's on big for Society podcast dot com. And

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if you look at the Fall Creek Loll area, Windburry,

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you'll notice how many different things have been on the

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show already, and it's it's not up to date yet.

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I still have a few hundred shows to go through.

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But so you mentioned Ivan Oaks, but there's also let's

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see so specifically Wimble Pass. Now, there was a gentleman

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I talked to back in not too long ago is

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episode eight eighty six, and he shared something that happened

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on Windberry Creek Road which was by a cattle guard

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pull off and they were just surrounded with whoops and

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footfalls and just crazy, crazy stuff happening. And it sounds

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like that's very close to where your situation happened as well.

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Yes, if you look at at a map or will

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you drive fifty eight quite a bit were then the

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butt is they're a little vite with all the towers

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on it. Okay, okay, So if you follow that back

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as you're driving fifty eight and you're looking over there,

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that whole ridge line that goes, I mean it goes

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way way up there. Almost a Buckhead Park which is

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up by westfer where he's talking about is just right

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over like the middle of that range there of Windberry

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Creek Road, there is an old well. I think there's

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family members that still live up there, and I know

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exactly where he's talking about, and that would be just

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right down the hill from where my experience happened and

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where the other experiences happened of people that I know. Wow,

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so it does. It really doesn't surprise me, but I

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am I'm glad that you know, to hear that there's

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still stuff going on for sure.

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Oh absolutely, And I mean other things that have happened.

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There was the postal worker in twenty fourteen, I believe

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that had the sighting and then the park ranger said, yeah,

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we had fourteen other calls from your area just last night,

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when it's just that whole area is just absolutely wild, wild, wild.

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So thinking back to what you saw, did it line

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up with what, Let's say, if someone before had been like, hey,

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you know, before you've actually seen a big foot. You're like, oh,

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you're going to see a bigfoot and you have that

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picture in your mind of what, you know, what pop

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culture thinks. Did it line up with what you saw

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that day? Or was it different at all? In any way?

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It was exactly what I would think that it would

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look like, and upright bipedal Harry, you know person, you

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know it didn't have the real pointy cone head, of course.

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I mean if it did, I couldn't tell because of

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the distance. But there was, you know, no mistaking what

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it was at all. I knew exactly what I was

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looking at. And my husband's still kind of like reserved,

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you know that. You know, he wants more proof, and

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I'm like, you can't get more proof than that. You know,

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it was, it was, It was amazing, but yet you

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know it changes you. And I don't know if you've

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heard people say that before, but you know it changes

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how you look at stuff.

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Oh sure, one hundred percent. Were you able to get

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a feel for what what color it was?

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Black?

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Okay?

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Black? As night.

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Interesting, very interesting. Have you heard of any sightings in

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that same area of like one that would be more

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kind of blonde strawberry blonde at all?

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I haven't.

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It's really weird. If there's I'm struggling to think of

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the number because it's an older episode, but there's a

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sighting of a strawberry blonde one in that same Fall

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Creek area. Wow.

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Wow wowow.

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Man. The other thing I want to throw out, just

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in case the right person is listening, is the first

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time I was at Sasquatch Summer Fest and Oakridge, I

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had these individuals tell me that there was actually in

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the seventies, there was a the University in Eugene did

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a study of sightings of the Windberry wild Man, which

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is pretty much the other name I guess for the

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bigfoot in that area. But I've not been able to

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track that information down. If anyone listening knows, I'd love

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to try to get access to it or how to

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read or listen to those reports. But just throwing that

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out there as well, can you explain a little bit

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about what what did the whoops sound like that you

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heard around the reservoir?

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They were just like it was something that we had

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never heard before in the in the woods, and you know,

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now and I hear noises, it's almost like, okay, do

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I recognize that? It was just you know, really like

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it wasn't a high pitch, and it was just like, well,

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just like that, okay, And and then you know, it

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was just a little bit more subtle than that churse.

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You know, I don't have a deep voice, but but yeah,

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it was just like that. And it was just a

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few times. And and the park ranger that that we're

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good friends with said, you know that it's not unusual.

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And a lot of people that that camp up there

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don't know what that noise is, and so you know

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that they just don't even recognize it.

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So so that's a big thing for that individual to

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say that it's it's not unusual, uh, in that people

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are hearing whatever you've so it's not just one off.

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There are multiple people hearing this sound, these whoops, And

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did it sound like anything you would hear in a

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zoo at all?

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You know, I haven't been to a zoo since I

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was a kid. I always I am I would I honestly,

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I can't answer that. I mean, I don't know, I.

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Say that because I was just out on an overnight

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and I actually did. It was a brilliant active area,

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and I captured and I recorded a whoop. But the

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thing is is that a lot of people, when they

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say I heard a whoop, they'll say, maybe it sounds

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like like a given call if you've heard like a

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gibbon in the zoo. The one I captured sounded more

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like like a singular drop of water. But the signature

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when you look at it in like Audacity or a

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sound spectrogram program, the same signature as a whoop will

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be every time. All right, this is Jeremiah editing the episode.

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I'm gonna go ahead and throw it in the noise

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that I captured in an undisclosed location in Iowa. This

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is also recorded at three forty eight am in the morning.

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There's no one else in the primitive campground with me.

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The first twenty seconds you'll hear is the actual unedited audio,

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so it's very hard to hear. It's about nine seconds

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in dan you'll hear a four second clip that'll repeat

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a few times where it's amplified. So here you go.

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So that experiencing that recently has made me kind of

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ask questions a little differently about like, Okay, what kind

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of did you hear? If you know what I mean?

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So right, yeah, yeah, that makes sense because you know

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there's different vocal tones too, and a different loop, can

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you know mean something? You know, do you have many

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different loops there are out there? This loop could mean that,

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or this weep could mean this. You know, you don't

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really know, but I mean, the main thing is is

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that we're recognizing them.

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It really is. And man, it's it's such an interesting thing.

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And I'm just going to talk for a minute. But

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it's interesting because you have this area which is totally

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just soaked in bigfoot activity. If you if you're looking

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from Fall Creek over to Oakridge, and I mean you

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look at I've talked to the rangers a few times.

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In the ranger station. They have bigfoot posters up in

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the actual place, like where you walk into behind the desk,

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there's big foot paraphernalia up. So there's definitely stuff that

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is known. It's I think it comes down to having

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those relationships and being able to talk to the right people,

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and the right people might talk to someone like you

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more so because you live there as opposed to a

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guy who flies in one time a year from Iowa

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with his podcast.

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Right, but.

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Yeah, the same guy that you talk to about the whoops.

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Has he said anything about people reporting sightings up that

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area as well?

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No, I had never asked back at that time. It

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was one of those things to where you know, you

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didn't talk about it. I kept my encounter to myself

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for many years and I just you know, dealt with

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it until you know, someone could pop up a conversation

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and start talking about stuff, and then it would come

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out that, you know, my husband and I had this experience.

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And so then as years went by and it's becoming

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you know, people are becoming more aware, there's more you know,

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uh people talking about it. And now it seems that

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if you know, as a people are more comfortable talking

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about it now.

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I agree.

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So it was that we had regular conversations about and so.

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This was this conversation that would have been back close

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to to two thousand and three you're saying.

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We had with our park ranger friend was probably within

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we moved to Central Oregon in twenty sixteen, so probably

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mid two thousands.

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Okay, well, yeah, so not too bad.

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Yeah, so it was more current, you know, like maybe

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two thousand and eight to two thousand and twelve thirteen.

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Very interesting. What do you think is the most recent

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activity you've heard of personally in that area?

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Honestly, I haven't had anybody mention anything to me from

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you know, like the wimble Wind burying area. I have

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been trying to find areas of activity over here in

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central Oregon, and so I'm not really in touch with

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many people on the west side, gotcha.

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Yeah, I mean there's there's a lot going on, for sure.

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I don't know if you've ever made it down to

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the area. Fifty eight Museum and Oakridge yet that's a

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that's a good group of people to talk to about

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the area as well, pretty close. Yeah, yeah, you should

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check it out.

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It's great.

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So it's it's it's really what it is is a

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bigfoot museum for for the area, headed up by Priscilla

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who also heads up the Sasquat Summerfest festival in Oakridge

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every year. So they have a U it's a right

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next to the DQ in Oakridge. So I usually really

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check it out.

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You love it?

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Yeah, I actually should.

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Great people to talk to you, for sure. So you

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mentioned that, so you guys are elk hunters, and so

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you go all over the area. You also mentioned that

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you've hunted over in Oakridge. Have have you had anything

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weird or the ordinary happen over there on that side?

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No, it's it's been down towards the from like Ivan

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Oaks over to Windbury and then down the low. Okay,

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it's been on that lower.

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Gotcha.

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Mm hmmm. One thing I like to throw out on

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interviews in this area just in case. I've had some

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people throw out that they've seen other things in that

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area but they'd never want to go on record about.

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And so we're not talking like Bigfoot, but we're talking

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about like maybe weird stuff like ferries or trolls or

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gnomes or anything like that. Is that anything that you've

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ever heard of walking around?

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I have not. The only thing out of the ordinary

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that I've seen is we were camping at Cascara Campground

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there on Fall Creek Reservoir, and right after dusk we

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saw a red light that was hovering and when it

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started to lower towards the tree line, which was out

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of crow flies, probably maybe eight ten miles away from us,

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we could see the trees illuminate and as it descended

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I got closer to the trees that there was more

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light being spread out through the trees, and then just

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in a snap, it was gone. That was the only

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other out of the ordinary thing I've seen besides the

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rabbit and a squirrel chasing each other.

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You know, gotcha, gotcha?

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Yeah?

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No, that's uh. I mean, I gotten a few UFO

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things out of Oakridge, But you hear a lot of

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the light stuff like up in like McKinsey Bridge, Rainbow

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Thin Rock area, all that kind of further north of

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you guys, That's where I get a lot of that stuff.

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But man, that is that is really cool. Do you

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have any thoughts about why there might be a ton

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of bigfoot activity in the area around like all Creek

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and the reservoirs?

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Sure? My thought is is that you have Lookout Reservoir,

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and you have Fall Creek Reservoir on each side of

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a heavily timbered, wooded brushy ridgeline, and on either side

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you've got access to water, food, and then in the

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on the ridgeline you have you know, the timber, the

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brush for security for concealment, the habitat and so, and

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then you have your food sources. Deer elp and whatnot.

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So I think that because it's such a hot spot

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there that that is why, because there's all kinds of

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resources there to survive.

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When you say food, what would you be referring to.

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You know, like fish out of the lakes water and

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then then you're deer in elk, birds, rabbits, all kinds

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of food sources and berries. There's tons of berries up there.

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Everywhere you look, there's BlackBerry vines and that's where we

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would get all of our blackberries ourselves. So yeah, there's

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a lot of food sources there.

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Gotcha this question. I could always look it up through

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the census. But since you are familiar with the area,

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what's your approximation for the amount of people that live

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on the other side of the reservoir in this area,

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like you know Fall Creek, lowl.

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All that area, Fall Creek, Windberry. Well, let's start at

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if you don't mind, start at Lookout because on the

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boundary road there is last I knew between mileposts one

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and mile post five. I believe there was only like

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maybe four residences at that at the time, full time residences.

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Then when you hop over Wimble passed to Windberry, you've

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got probably I'm gonna say six from the bridge clear

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up past the cattle guard, and then between Windberry and

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Big Fall Creek over where the caround is there's probably

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a handful. And then I don't believe that there are

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any alongside the other part of the reservoir until you

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get down below the dam, so there's really not that many.

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And then at Big Fall pick towards the campgrounds like

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Dolly Varden and those, there are residences up there, and

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they're up there quite a ways, So I mean, yeah,

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there's not many, but that there is a feel.

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Wow, I was way less than I was thinking. To

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be honest, that's pretty wild, because man, I can't imagine

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some of those people are probably being messed with at

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their their houses or having some interactions base.

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I would think so.

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Yeah, I would think so too. That's crazy. If they're listening,

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they can always reach out for sure. And then Loll

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is loll kind of the size of Oakridge or a

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00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.480
little bit. It's it's smaller, isn't it.

466
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.679
Lowell is probably about that.

467
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.639
Yeah, Okay, cool, cool cool, I.

468
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.119
Would think so. And Little Fall Creek, it's hard to

469
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:20.400
say because the way that county goes to some people

470
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.599
might be considered loll and then some people might be

471
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:26.440
considered Fall Creek. So it's really, you know, kind of

472
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:30.679
difficult to tell. But but yeah, there I would say

473
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.880
it's probably about the same for sure.

474
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:40.519
Hmmm, based on what you've seen and what you've experienced.

475
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:44.239
Do you have any thoughts about you know, we know

476
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:48.400
that it's what it's called, either bigfoot or sasquatch, but

477
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:51.719
do you have any thoughts about what we are dealing

478
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.480
with when we're talking about whatever that creature is?

479
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:06.519
Yeah, I mean, I think that somewhere something's got to give,

480
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.280
you know, because it's like, you know, I nobody wants

481
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.920
to wants to hurt them as far as I know,

482
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:19.840
and we we just want we just want to know

483
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:23.320
what they're about. You know that That's what I'm wondering.

484
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:31.079
I think of them as as bigfoot, you know, and

485
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:32.360
and the mystery.

486
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:36.599
Continues, absolutely, and it's it's one of the best ones.

487
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:39.159
I mean, no matter if you think of it as

488
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:45.639
there's a bunch of undiscovered apes out there or you know,

489
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:51.079
feral people, or or you know, cousins to two human

490
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:55.239
beings that have just gone into the woods and haven't

491
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.760
come out. There's so so many, so many ways to

492
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.159
think about it, and it is it is really cool.

493
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:05.960
I hope that you are able to have another interaction.

494
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:10.119
It sounds like you are actively pursuing after it. And

495
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:13.400
I mean, if you're able to go to this area,

496
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.239
you really are in the right area. And if you're

497
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:19.840
able to talk to Priscilla and those guys over in Oakridge,

498
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.840
they might be able to give you some cool information

499
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:27.559
as well. But it has been really fun talking to

500
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:31.280
you today, Terry, and it's just cool to hear more

501
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:37.079
from this area of loll in Full Creek. And if

502
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:41.039
people listening again, if you know more information about this area,

503
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.679
or really any area in the region, feel free to

504
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:46.679
reach out to me. You can send me an email

505
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:49.920
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. But Terry, I want

506
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:51.960
to make sure that you were able to share everything

507
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:56.760
that you came on the show to share it today.

508
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.400
Yes I did, and I thank you so very much.

509
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:02.960
Hey, how's it going?

510
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:06.239
What's uping man? Hey? Good?

511
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:07.440
Good? How are you?

512
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:09.239
I'm doing good?

513
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:11.400
I just uh, you've been popping up on my four

514
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.239
you page. I forget.

515
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:16.280
Yeah, I appreciate you.

516
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:22.400
Yeah, I got a little channel I've been running. I got.

517
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:29.639
I live here in Apalachia, Putnam County, West Virginia.

518
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:26.960
And.

519
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.920
Uh yeah, man, I've been having a lot of activity

520
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:36.880
up three years. It's been nuts for the past few years.

521
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:42.440
Oh my goodness. Do you have any anything, any experience

522
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.519
that any experiences that you could share?

523
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.039
Oh, yeah, sure.

524
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:52.119
I I don't know how long they've been around my

525
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.000
property until I started noticing them.

526
00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:59.400
I've lived here for probably ten years now.

527
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:05.039
But back five years ago, i'd let my dogs out

528
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:10.920
and they'd went up into the woods, you know, and

529
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.119
they were barking, and so I went to go retrieve

530
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:16.239
him out of the woods. And I was standing right

531
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:20.679
next to this big white oak tree, and I was

532
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:23.599
just happen to look off to the left and it

533
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:26.079
was like this little death l again, like a little heel,

534
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:29.079
and a sasquatch popped up over the hill and he

535
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:33.400
was probably about fifteen feet from me, and it was

536
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:34.920
a little juvenile.

537
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:38.199
He's probably about five foot tall. And I just remember

538
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:42.280
what he looked like, you know, he smirked on his face, and.

539
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:48.400
Then he stepped six foot about six foot to the

540
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:52.599
left and got behind a big tree. And I was

541
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.599
sitting there watching him, and every so often I would

542
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:59.079
see his arm flare out and I could tell that

543
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:01.360
he was backing out of the woods. You know, that's

544
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:03.639
a that's a military maneuver man.

545
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:04.039
He was.

546
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.599
He was freaking using that tree. He put that tree

547
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.119
in between me and him, and he he grassed out

548
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:13.079
of the woods. And I could tell he was walking

549
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:17.719
out because his arms were getting smaller and smaller. I mean,

550
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.159
that is a high grieve intelligence, you know what I mean.

551
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:21.519
Mhm.

552
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.159
It just blew my mind then, And so then I

553
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:28.840
started looking for him every time after I had that experience,

554
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.639
I just kept looking for him, you know, constantly looking

555
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:32.280
up in the woods.

556
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:32.519
You know.

557
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:39.920
Wow, So you gotta could look at his his face.

558
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:42.079
Do you remember was it covered with hair or were

559
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:44.039
there parts that didn't have hair?

560
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.880
Oh? I know exactly what it looks like. Uh. He

561
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:48.320
he was.

562
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:53.039
He was jet black, but his chest was gray like

563
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:58.719
a lighter gray color. And his face same way, jet black.

564
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.119
His ears had a little tip on the ears that

565
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:09.760
was hairless on top of his ears, and his face

566
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:13.199
he had it was two tongue color like it was

567
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:16.559
it was his hair was black and then right around

568
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:20.360
his eyes and down around his nose and like the

569
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.800
the opposite of go tee area, you know what I'm saying,

570
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.639
was like a lighter gray color. His chest was gray

571
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.559
and muscular. I mean, I could tell he was just

572
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.599
a he was a juvenile man.

573
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:34.599
He was already built, you know what I mean. You

574
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.760
could tell you had to strength in his hands. His

575
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:44.000
nails were black. His eyes, he had like.

576
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:47.079
An amber colored eyes, but they were larger as his

577
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:51.239
pupils were enormous, like compared to ours.

578
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:51.480
You know.

579
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.840
They had big eyeballs and big and a very prominent

580
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.039
like eyebroun eyebrows I read, you know what I'm saying,

581
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:06.920
very thick bone. You could tell pretty muscular type. I

582
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:11.039
hate to say eight because that's not really a good

583
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:15.199
way to explain him. But you know, like the apes

584
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:23.159
have that larger eyebrow, you know, temporarias really swollen and

585
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:29.199
muscular kind of like that. And yeah, he noticed me,

586
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.719
and he just he smirked like he was surprised that

587
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:37.840
I was able to see. I mean, it wasn't nothing special,

588
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.599
like I did anything special. It was just I was hiding.

589
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:43.599
I wasn't even really hide and it was just I

590
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.480
was standing and there was a white oak tree in

591
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.519
between me and it and I could see around the

592
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:55.559
white oak tree. But it was you know, my silhouette

593
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.400
was so small that he didn't notice me right away,

594
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.320
and he walked a few steps up over the hill

595
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:06.480
before he realized I was there. And yeah, it was

596
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.199
I couldn't believe what I've seen, you know what I mean.

597
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:14.039
And then I started getting apples and stuff. And I've

598
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:18.760
had quite a bit of experiences since then. I had

599
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:25.079
the the little baby juvenile was riding on my poodle.

600
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.000
They got on her back and was riding her across

601
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:28.440
the yard.

602
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:36.480
They they would ride her back, the babies would and

603
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.079
they would run along the tree line. I got a

604
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.719
video up on my channel about it shows I wont

605
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:54.079
riding one of my dog's back. It was crazy, really, Yeah. Absolutely, yeah.

606
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:56.840
They seem pretty friendly, you know that. I have had

607
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:03.280
no I've not gotten no evil intent or nothing like

608
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:07.519
that from him. Maybe except one time they grunned a

609
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.360
little loud at me when I got too close to

610
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:13.679
one of the kids down in the brush.

611
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:16.239
On my property.

612
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.480
One of the little juveniles would get on the roof

613
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.920
of my house. I got a video of them up

614
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:35.079
on the roof of my house. Oh uh, So after

615
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.440
that I did. I really didn't know what their intent was. So,

616
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.840
you know, I was constantly worried about my dogs because

617
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.800
you know, I had four little dogs and I just

618
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.960
let them out the back door, and I you.

619
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:51.599
Know, I didn't put no leashes on them or not.

620
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:52.639
I just let them go.

621
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:56.480
But but now that I know those damn sasquats are there,

622
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.440
I was worried about letting them out without least. I

623
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.159
didn't know if they'd heard them or not, you know,

624
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:06.639
until I started seeing them, the kids playing with them

625
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:10.199
and whatnot, and I realized it wasn't more to hurt them.

626
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.840
I don't put them on a leash no more. But yeah, man,

627
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.639
it was. It was kind of scary there for a

628
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:19.559
little bit, not knowing what they're dealing with.

629
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:21.639
Oh.

630
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.840
Absolutely, not too long ago, like a it's probably been

631
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:27.000
a month ago.

632
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.679
I was. I just fed my dogs here. It was

633
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:33.679
like eight thirty and.

634
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:39.880
Sorry, I just heard I'm not on my back porch,

635
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:45.360
but I heard some noise outside and they ran outside

636
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:50.360
and see what it was. And yeah, I seen them

637
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:52.639
up in the tree line, and at first it just

638
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.480
kind of looked like a blur because they were running

639
00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:01.159
so fast and try to get my camera out in

640
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:04.559
the time to record them. But I had when I'd

641
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:06.960
let my dogs out earlier that day, they heard me

642
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:11.840
calling my dog lay one. One's named Lady, and they

643
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:15.079
were calling from the woods, Lady, trying to call my

644
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:21.719
dog into the woods. And so they're starting to do

645
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:24.320
that now too. They're getting comfortable enough to where they

646
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:28.920
are trying to play with my dogs every Tuesday, come

647
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:29.880
across my land.

648
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:36.119
Wow, this is uh, this is some some wild stuff.

649
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:39.599
Thank you for coming up and for sharing your experiences

650
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:42.599
so far. Uh. So, I do have a podcast where

651
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:46.400
I talk to people about their bigfoot encounters. Would I

652
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:49.360
be able to use the audio from this conversation on

653
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:50.519
that podcast.

654
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.199
Yeah, that'd be fine.

655
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:56.840
I just my last encounter. I'll tell you my last

656
00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:03.079
encounter I had with them. Okay, probably about uh it's

657
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:06.800
been just a short time ago. But I was using

658
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:10.119
the bathroom downstairs in my house, and I was using

659
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:13.920
the downstairs bathroom and I was doing my business, and

660
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:18.000
it was talking through my wall. It was counting the five,

661
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:23.800
it was counting one, two, three, four, five, trying to

662
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:28.920
get me to talk back to it. And so now

663
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.440
so now when I go outside, I'll say one, two, three, four, five,

664
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:34.559
just to say no that I'm.

665
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.159
You know, calling.

666
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.119
Are those the only words that they're saying or do

667
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:44.360
they see do they say other words too?

668
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:46.840
No, I heard us say, I heard a.

669
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:52.039
On one other occasion, I heard them talking from one's

670
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:53.360
on the right and rue was on the.

671
00:46:53.360 --> 00:47:01.119
Left, and one said, bob, bobok.

672
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:07.800
Is what it's there, bab bob, And then the other

673
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.039
one just mack the tree. Let it know it was

674
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:12.599
talking to.

675
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:18.239
That's that's wild stuff, guys. I see a lot of

676
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:20.719
people in the comments saying they they want to be

677
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.079
able to see your videos. His username on TikTok is

678
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:27.480
Appalachian Cryptids. But yeah, it's just fallo him right now

679
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.239
and you'll be able to check it out. So I

680
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:31.199
appreciate you coming up.

681
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:31.400
Man.

682
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:35.159
Yeah, I'm a good man. Keep to work.

683
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.199
Thank you. Hey, We'll talk to you later.

684
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:39.320
Yeah later.

685
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:40.960
Hi there, how are you?

686
00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:41.960
Hi?

687
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:42.719
How are you?

688
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:44.360
Yeah?

689
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:51.800
He's definitely real. Definitely. I'm I'm from Massachusetts, but I

690
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:58.679
have traveled on my motorcycle to the mountains in New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont,

691
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:06.320
and no question in my mind, no question, because I

692
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:09.800
have heard stuff while I was camping for twenty years.

693
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.719
I've heard stuff. It's no doubt in my mind, no

694
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:15.840
doubt in my mind that he exists.

695
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.159
Wow. Where have you Where have you been that you've

696
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:21.880
experienced stuff out there?

697
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:22.800
Oh geez?

698
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:30.679
On motorcycle back in my younger days, Maine, Canada, Vermont,

699
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.400
New Hampshire, all in all in the New England area.

700
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:42.360
And I have heard stuff. I mean, before the days

701
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:47.320
the smartphones you could actually record stuff. I've heard stuff.

702
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:53.639
I've seen stuff, and no question in my mind, no question.

703
00:48:57.800 --> 00:48:58.119
Wow.

704
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:01.320
Can you think of any specific instances that you might

705
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:02.079
be able to share?

706
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:04.000
I can so.

707
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:05.239
Oh god.

708
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:08.679
So I'm fifty five now. But when I was in

709
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:14.639
my early thirties, I went on a motorcycle trip down

710
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:20.760
the Blue Ridge Parkway through the mountains there. Yep, and

711
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:26.519
oh god, I will never forget this night. So we

712
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:31.239
went to this campsite and you know, we set up

713
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:33.840
camp and we fell asleep. In the middle of the

714
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:41.039
night we heard this ungodly, ungodly scream and it wasn't human.

715
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:45.599
It couldn't have been human. It couldn't have been And

716
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:49.639
I looked up my boyfriend at the time, I'm like,

717
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:53.920
this isn't right. This isn't a person screaming, this is

718
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:59.960
like And it screamed for like three minutes, this deep

719
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:05.920
guttural scream. And it didn't come from a human. You know,

720
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.079
you could tell if it comes from a human, you

721
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:13.039
just know. And it did not. And it was in

722
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.880
the Blue Ridge, the Blueish Mountains.

723
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:17.440
It was.

724
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.760
It was the scariest thing I've ever gone through. And

725
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.480
I've never shared this experience with anyone, and it was

726
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:30.639
it was terrifying. We couldn't sleep the whole night because

727
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:35.719
of it. It was. It was like nothing I've ever

728
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:39.280
heard in my entire life. And people all think we're

729
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:43.440
crazy and they laugh at us, but it was nothing

730
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:46.519
like I've ever my human ears I've ever heard in

731
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:47.559
my entire life.

732
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:52.360
It was nuts. That area down there is really intense too.

733
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:58.719
It is. So here's the funny thing. So it was

734
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:03.840
back in the nineties, and so the unibomber, he's so.

735
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:06.719
Cusy, it's easy, easy on the terms.

736
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.239
Well do you know what I'm talking about. So he

737
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:13.360
was apparently hiding out in the hills during that time,

738
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:19.440
and I'm I called my mom. I remember it distinctly.

739
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.679
I called my mom a payphone. I'm like, hey, we're here,

740
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.119
but it was a cold So and SO was hiding

741
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:29.079
out in these mountains, gonna be careful, like, Okay, yeah,

742
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:33.079
that wasn't that guy, Like we woke up at two

743
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:43.320
am and heard this unhuman scream in the nineties And

744
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:46.320
I'll never for the rest of my life forget that

745
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:52.039
sound in my head. It it wasn't human. It definitely

746
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:56.079
it couldn't have been, so I will I will never

747
00:51:56.119 --> 00:52:00.800
forget that. And everyone laughs and everyone, and you know what,

748
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:03.840
you can laugh while you want. If you didn't experience it,

749
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:05.599
you don't understand what you heard.

750
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:06.840
It was.

751
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:09.480
It was wild.

752
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:10.440
It was wild.

753
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:12.800
Wow.

754
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.639
I appreciate you coming up and sharing that for the

755
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:21.800
first time. Mike, Goodness, is this a conversation I could

756
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.519
play on my Bigfoot podcast that I have.

757
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:26.960
You absolutely can if you want.

758
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.000
All right, I appreciate you coming up. I've got a

759
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:32.760
few other people I want to check in with. But

760
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:34.440
it's been fun chatting with you tonight.

761
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:36.039
Thank you all right, man, Take care.

762
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:41.719
You too, Hey, Mark, how's it going.

763
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:43.599
Good?

764
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:47.119
How are you doing great? What brings you up? Sir?

765
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:55.559
I actually wanted to tell you about I saw your

766
00:52:55.599 --> 00:53:01.679
sight about on here a few times. Okay, I wanted

767
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:08.239
to tell you about a sighting I had in Canada.

768
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:16.719
My mother always took us so on Vaca middle of July,

769
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:24.519
and this particular year we went up to Canada and

770
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:33.960
got on the agin Law Canyon UH train tour. I

771
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:35.840
don't know if you know where that is. That's like

772
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:42.239
you get on it in the suit and in the

773
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:43.920
upper Peninsula of Michigan.

774
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:45.079
Okay.

775
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:50.639
It goes up from there just into the wilderness. It

776
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:58.960
pretty much follows the UH pretty much follows the border

777
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:06.719
up but goes pretty deep into the woods. Anyways, there's

778
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:10.239
one spot on that rail I was with my cousin.

779
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:18.280
We were like nine or ten, and we were standing

780
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:26.559
between railcars. Instead of being inside the rail car, we

781
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:31.159
were like standing in between them, hanging over the rail

782
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:38.679
just checking out the scenery. Well, we were coming around

783
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:41.880
this We were on this trestle. It was coming around

784
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:49.000
a lake and this lake was pretty large and as

785
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:51.360
we came around the lake on the trustle, we could

786
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:54.440
see where the land was coming up and there was

787
00:54:54.480 --> 00:55:00.760
like a brook that came down a waterfall and then

788
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:08.639
went into the lake. Right next to that brook sat

789
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:19.280
a blonde Sasquatch. If you've ever seen Todd Standing's photos.

790
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:27.360
There's one there that's relatively blonde. It looked just like

791
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:37.440
that as far as it's facial features. This thing was huge.

792
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:41.840
And the thing that got me was it actually was

793
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:46.440
drinking water. It actually stuck its hand into the waterfall

794
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:50.440
and brought it back up to its mouth and took

795
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:50.920
a drink.

796
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.440
Wow, that's awesome.

797
00:55:58.440 --> 00:55:59.079
We got to.

798
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:03.639
See that white a while, and it was it wasn't

799
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:08.519
like you know, I know, it made eye contact with me.

800
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:16.119
I could feel it, basically, But at the same time,

801
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:18.880
neither one of us were in a position where we

802
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:25.159
would be scared. You know. Had a few things that

803
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:30.039
I thought were odd here and there, but I you know,

804
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:34.920
I don't really mention them to anybody, because well I

805
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:39.719
do mention them, but they call me nuts for, you know,

806
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:49.639
thinking that I'm seeing x's or stuff like that. But anyways,

807
00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:55.960
I saw one other time I live in New York now,

808
00:56:56.840 --> 00:57:02.320
and one other time we were traveling to a funeral

809
00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:11.719
on eighty It was it's east west eighty ninety going

810
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:21.719
through Pennsylvania and New York. Well, we're in New York

811
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:37.559
heading towards Pennsylvania, and the highway is divided like has like, oh,

812
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:42.639
quite a bit of land in between the two different

813
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:52.760
directions of the expressway, and then it has fences on

814
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:58.840
the expressway to keep the animals off, you know, like

815
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:01.400
cal fence's.

816
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:03.760
Well, I was just.

817
00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:07.440
Gazing out the window because my wife was driving one day.

818
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:16.400
Well that day when we were going and I looked

819
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:20.039
over towards this barn, and I saw this thing that

820
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:28.800
was just it's it's so hard to describe because I

821
00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:34.559
don't know if you've ever seen a bear run, it's

822
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:38.639
sort of I don't know if they call it a barrel.

823
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:42.239
It's sort of barrels along because that it looks like

824
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:45.880
a barrel's just moving along, you know, because you can't

825
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:51.400
really see its feet, just sort of just because of

826
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:55.840
the way it keeps its nose down. Well, this wasn't

827
00:58:56.000 --> 00:59:00.519
like that. It was much bigger than a bear, and

828
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:07.880
I mean it just spread its arms completely out, grabbed

829
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:14.519
ground and just I mean it just it was way

830
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:20.480
on the other side of the expressway. Okay, get running

831
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:24.360
behind this barn. It was actually on the other side.

832
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:30.199
It was on the expressway side of the fence, but

833
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:33.440
it was running as close to that as it could.

834
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:39.000
The opposite direction it was. I just sort of I

835
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:41.559
don't I didn't know what to think or say or

836
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.920
I know, I don't know if there's such a thing

837
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:48.360
as dog man.

838
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:57.440
Hmmm, A lot of people think so that's something I

839
00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:00.639
don't know a lot about. But it's i'd it's definitely

840
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:01.119
out there.

841
01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:07.440
That was That was definitely a sasquatch or a dog.

842
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:09.400
I mean, I don't know if the dog man.

843
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:09.599
Is just.

844
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:19.880
The the sighting you had up in Canada. What lake

845
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:20.480
was that by?

846
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:31.199
Again, I don't know the lake. It's the railway was

847
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:42.719
called agen Wah Canyon Railway. It starts at Sue Saint Marie,

848
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:48.280
got it, and it should have a site, and then

849
01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:55.559
that site should have a map of its railway. Okay,

850
01:00:56.920 --> 01:01:04.000
on that map you should be able to find they

851
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.039
might not have it on there anymore. It hits the

852
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:11.519
outside corner of the lake and there's a big trestle

853
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.960
and as it comes around there's a stream that comes

854
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:19.880
off into the lake as you're going north.

855
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:27.519
Okay, yeah, I'll take a look at that. Looks interesting.

856
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:30.679
Maybe we can get some more info from looking into that.

857
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:33.400
But Mark, thank you for coming up and for Sharon.

858
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:35.800
Is this a conversation I can use on my podcast.

859
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:40.400
Oh absolutely. And the interesting thing about this it was

860
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:46.039
that Sasquatch was blonde. That was really yeah, it was

861
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:54.400
very it was butternut blonde. I mean it was just

862
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:02.280
something different. It was I wasn't expected and that's for sure.

863
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:07.480
But thanks for listening my story.

864
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:11.559
Absolutely, well, thank you for coming up and maybe we'll

865
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:13.559
talk again a later time. But you have a good one, sir.

866
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:16.480
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867
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:19.519
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868
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.599
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869
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:25.320
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