Dec. 10, 2025

Witness Captures Massive Bigfoot Handprint on Quartz Mountain and Leaves Shaken

Witness Captures Massive Bigfoot Handprint on Quartz Mountain and Leaves Shaken
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Season 1

A fire-watch worker from Oregon shares one of the most compelling Bigfoot encounters ever recorded in the Umpqua National Forest. In this episode, a witness describes discovering a massive Bigfoot handprint on her SUV after a terrifying night on Quartz Mountain, where her dogs reacted violently to something unseen in the dark.


She also recounts past encounters across Tiller, Drew, and the Diamond Lake region—including seeing a towering figure cross the road, experiencing powerful tree knocks deep in the forest, and hearing chilling vocalizations no known animal could produce.


This episode dives into:
• Bigfoot handprint evidence in Oregon
• Witness encounters in the Umpqua National Forest
• Activity around Quartz Mountain, Diamond Lake, Tiller & Drew
• Tree knocks, vocalizations, and forest behavior patterns
• Generational logging-community stories of Sasquatch
• Native perspectives on “things that don’t want to be found”

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You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Pick the Society. You

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got the privilege of talking to Carisa today. Crisa is

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a listener of the show from Oregon and has some

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really interesting things to share. I believe Chrisa, you reached

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out to me and you said, hey, you're the one

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I'm going to tell the stories to. I picked you

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something like that really fun, So I appreciate that's really

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a special thing, and I do not take that lightly

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at all. Welcome to the show. How are you doing today?

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I'm well, I'm well, how are you doing? Right?

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We are in and out of some cold weather out

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here in Iowa, but not too cold yet. But we're

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gonna make it. You know what, I'm going to go

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ahead and feel free to take us back to when

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you started having these interactions or what you experienced, and

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then we'll chat about it later on.

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Okay, I'm gonna I'll go ahead and start with the

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story that i'd sent you. I was lucky enough to

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get a firewatch job here in Oregon, and they have

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lookout towers in certain spots all of his course around here,

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and I had spent a weekend in a once general

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area and after the weekend was over, it was time

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for me to go home, get rested up, and all

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that until I got another call to go out. I

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had left. It was Monday morning. I do believe Sunday

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night or Monday morning one or two, but it was

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Monday morning, and so I went fishing for a couple hours,

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hung out around the area because it's just a good

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scenic place to be. It's peaceful, it's just a nice area.

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And there's a way to cut over from where I

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was over the hill and it gets me closer to

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home and we get to drive through the forest, look

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at nature and just have fun. And anyways, it was

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getting pretty dark out and I was getting tired, and

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I was almost to the very top of where you

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cross over, and I was like, maybe I'll just take

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a little nap for a couple hours, then get up

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and continue on home. And I had found this little

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spot off the side of the road that I could

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tell people had camped there before, so I decided to

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back in there. And as I'm backing in, my dog

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and my son's dog that I had with me at

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the time, completely just we're barking at the back end

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of my suv, like unhinged, just freaking out. So I stopped,

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and I had my spotlight and I leaned out the

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window and didn't see anything back there, but and I

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see all nothing to be quiet because they're allowed and anyways,

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I continued to back up slowly. But as I was

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backing up, like it was almost there's nothing behind me.

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It's like a wide open campground. So I'm backing up,

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but it's like a resistance almost, like I can tell,

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like it almost felt like I was hung up on

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something for a second. And so then I stop again

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and I got out and looked and there's nothing, and

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I'm like, what the heck, so I continued finishing backing up.

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At this time there was no resistance when I got

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back into the vehicle and I parked there, and my

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dogs just started freaking out again, and when I've never

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really good dogs like and whatnot, but they're not having it.

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Whatever's out there, they're not having it. And it gave

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me the ebgbs. So I left. I came home, and

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about two days later I got a call to go

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get ready to go to another firewatch job, and I

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decided I should probably clean my vehicle because it was dirty,

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and I vacuumed it and as I got to the back,

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I noticed that handprint that was on there, and I

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was like, that is there's no way And like I said,

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the only reason, the only way I can explain the

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like resistance as I was backing up is if almost

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like someone had lifted the back end of my truck

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that was pushing against it at the same time. I

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wasn't peeling me out or anything, but it was just

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I guess that's the only way I can put it.

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But to see a handprint like that, and there was lines,

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and it was odd to me, but instantly in my

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gut and in my heart, I felt. I'm like, I

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know what that is due to the circumstances that I've

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I don't know how they say this, but I've also

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been kind of lucky, I will say lucky enough to

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maybe I'm not gonna say I've just not ran into

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sasquatches per se, but I've definitely been around something in

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the forest around here a few times. And that just

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leave me to believe that there's probably things elsewhere that

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you shouldn't be going to look for that don't want

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to be found, but you just run into them sometimes,

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or I just I really don't know how to explain it,

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but that picture, really, I don't know, how do you

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feel when you've seen the picture?

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Yeah, so I'm looking at the picture right now, and

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there's definitely you can see fingers on the edge, but

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then it's it looks like a really big handprint. And

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also the thing I wanted to ask you is what

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it left behind seems to be very thick. Was it

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hard to clean that off? Or how did that go?

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I didn't want to clean it off, to be honest

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with you. I was so excited about it and whatnot.

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And then I put water on it first and it

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did not come off readily at all, and so it

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took a washing and not like a scrub or anything,

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but to get decent washing to get it off. And

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it's just I was almost excited about it, I just

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because I like this stuff. And yeah, it's just it

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was something, I will say that, And just the way

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the dogs were clip Now, they've been camping with me

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many times, We've been out in the forest around here

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a lot, and I basically could drive all these backgrounds

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with my eyes closed, and the dogs have been on

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them too, and they've never even since then ever had

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ever have what wasserk like that, So I feel like

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it was such a cool Definitely.

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Absolutely were you when you were cleaning it and inspect?

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Did you actually touch the residue that was left behind before?

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What? I didn't? Okay, I didn't. I just I was,

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like I said as too, just just shocked, stunned and

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excited all at the same time that I think I

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even came running in the house and I was like, oh,

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but she was too busy to come out there, and

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let's it. I just reminded her when I showed her

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the picture the other day, and she was like, oh,

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my gosh, I remember that. Ye, I was super excited

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about that.

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Absolutely, let's see the because it was definitely some stuff

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was left behind on the back of your car. And yeah,

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would you what words would you use to try to

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describe what that material was even though you didn't feel it,

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but you could still look at it.

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When it's warm weather outside, it's summertime and you go

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camping and into the dusty, dirty area, so you had

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fell down and you put your hands first, and you

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got muck on your hands, or not even muck. It's

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just really dirt. But it's a cakey kind of dirt.

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I guess is where I can put it in. That's

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why i'd explained it's cakey basically.

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Yeah, got Yeah, it's interesting because looking at the photo,

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it's almost so if you look at your hand and

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then you have let's so you're looking at your right

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hand and you've got the bottom of the hand part,

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it looks like it was almost like putting its hand over.

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He said, Okay, if I say that the word that's

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in that photo the type of car, it's going to

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say what type of car it is. But so you

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know how you have the metal pathfinder sign on the back.

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It's almost like put its hand right over it because

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the bottom part of the palm is underneath the pathfinder,

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but then on top you can almost see it looks

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like a thumb print to the right, which is wild

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because the crazy thing is and I've talked to Cliff

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about this from up in the NABC the Big Feet

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Museum with there, Cliff Barrickman, and he was explaining to

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me with handprint cast how the thumb is different than ours.

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The thumb goes further up and closer to the other

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fingers in a way, which is shown in what you've

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got here in this photo, which is just fascinating.

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And the other thing about that is that was it

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was still too I didn't even clean my vehicle until

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two days after I had driven all the way home.

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You would think that I kicked up a lot of

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dust even at that point, but that stayed prominent the

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whole time throughout me driving home and whatnot. It didn't

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blow off. It was on there. It was, like I said,

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there was no doubt in my mind once I've seen it.

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That's what that resistance was like that it just, yeah,

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there was no doubt to me anyway, There's no doubt.

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Yeah, that's fascinating, so we are. My guess is we're

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not telling the area because of your job.

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Correct, I'm not no longer working there. I actually I

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don't mind telling the area because I feel like maybe

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if I do, because like I said, I've had other

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things happen in that general itself, I don't. I'm just

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if it's okay with you, I'm just gonna say I

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live in basically an unquant national forest area on the

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outskirts area. There's a place it's the northum Quat in

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the southam Quat and I live on the southam Class side,

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and where I had been doing firewatch was the Northumpklass side.

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But like I said, I had cut over the hill

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and there's multiple ways to go that way over the

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hill and whatnot. And I did take at that time

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defer the shroud because I just like driving up there

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and whatnot. But yeah, it was If people are from

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around this area, they'll know what I'm talking about when

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I say a Qorts Mountain area and when you cut

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over it literally is one of the highest spots on

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this on the hill around here.

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Yeah, gotcha. So we got Quartz Mountain and then because

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I looked up the area because I look, you had

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some your email, and that's around Diamond Lake right exactly, Yes, exactly,

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which has come up on the show multiple times, and

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it's some really intense stuff. The big one that comes

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to mind was that there was the guy from down

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in We were talking about prospect in Union Creek first,

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but then he was sharing how one of his hunting

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buddies had seen the sasquatch crouched and hunting elk from

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behind trees in that Diamond Lake erie. And I know

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it's the focus. It's been the focus of a few

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people that are trying to find out more information about

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Bigfoot over the years. So I'm not surprised at all

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that you experienced what you did. But so you were.

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You're saying that you you've experienced some other weird stuff

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in the woods. It sounds like it's really affected you.

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I love it, okay, because I've not yet to be

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scared of it. I'm not People might think I'm silly

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because like, it interests me to the point I'm almost

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except for a couple of times, I don't want to

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go who. I had a friend tell me one time

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his grandpa was a chief around here for the kathrenk

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Indian tribe, and he had said that his grandpa once

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told him, you don't you shouldn't go looking for things

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that don't want to be found. And I've some about

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him saying that to me has completely It hasn't deterred

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my attention, that's for sure. But if I see or

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hear something, I'm not going to go chase and running

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after it or trying to find what that sound was,

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because I've had a lot of tree knocks in my

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lifetime that that no human could have made. There's no

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way that was just a regular man making that noise

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or tree all and stuff like that. But yeah, like

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the very first time that I can remember really seeing

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him with my eyes, I was actually in Trail, Oregon,

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and I was come over the mountain into Tiller, and

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right as you come into Tiller that way, there's a

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church and there's a big, old, not a huge billboard,

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but somewhat of a medium sized billboard in front of

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the church. And as my headlights hit it, I seen

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a huge figure standing like it was on the other

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side of the billboard. It towered over it, and as

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soon as my headlights hit it, it turned and all

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I could see was an elbow in a foot and

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I had a friend with me, and I don't say

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anything to him. I don't say nothing at all until

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we almost got to daystreak and he was like, Okay,

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did you see that? And I was like, oh my gosh,

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what did you see? Tell me now, and he said

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he explained exactly what I had seen, and I was like, oh, wow,

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that was something, And yeah, that was pretty pretty cool too,

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but it's And also I lived until hear not for

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the past five years, and you had brought up on

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one of your segments about the barred owls and where

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I lived at in that area has extremely been taken

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over by bar owls and I have just recently moved

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from there in about two nights before I moved, And

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I know it doesn't have really anything to do with

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the Bardells, but I just found it fascinating. That was

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because what you said is right. People are going to

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be out there looking for these owls and come stumbling

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across something that could just verify a lot of things.

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But I don't know that at the same time, because

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I feel like also to have some kind of invisibility

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cloak or something and something you can't even Yeah, it's

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just I hope that at some point that we're like,

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I want verification, you know what I mean. I just

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want someone say, yeah, this is absolutely real and there's

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no doubt about it. And even though I in my

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heart feel I haven't that there's no doubt about it,

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there's not. But just for I guess the higher up

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to be like, yes, this is it's not a joke,

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it's not a farest. It's a real thing.

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That would be that's the dream. But this so, this

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Tailler area, it's a small town. It's I think per

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since it's two hundred and fifty people, really small on

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the edge of the Quad National Forest. It's got a

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ranger station there, which is that's cool.

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Yeah, it's a tourist attraction. They have the South of

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Klaff Falls up there. They have a powow up there

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every summer. It's the summer. It's camping, a camping dream

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if you're into the nature the forest during the summertime.

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And like I said, my whole life, I've spent a

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lot of time in that whole area and it's just yeah,

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there's some interesting stuff out there.

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And so just to make sure I got on the

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right path from what you just shared. So you had

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a visual of a bigfoot that was right next to

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a billboard next to a church. Is that right?

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Yeah, I see, you know it was running across It's right.

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It's this isn't really a town, like when I say

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it's a town because it has a post office all.

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But there's not like neighbors close together or it's people are.

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Here's a house and then a little ways down there's

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another house. It's a forested area at all times, and

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it is in the mountains. It's a drive to get there.

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And I could see where it could have been running

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from the hill on the other side to go to

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the river and across the river or whatever. But it's

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just when my headlights hit it, there was no disputing

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that something was standing towering above the sign on the

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other side of it, and it had turned. And then

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as soon as I seemed like the elbow like it

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was going to run is the only way I can

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describe it. And then his foot kicked up and then

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it was gone and I didn't take my eyes off nothing,

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but it was into the darkness. It was there was

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no seeing nothing that I just kept going because they

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didn't know if my friend had seen it at that point.

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But as soon as we got into Days Creaking and

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said that, I was so glad he had said something. Yeah.

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Absolutely, what year, end time? A year would this event?

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That was probably around twenty thirteen and it was springtime?

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Okay, yeah? How long do you think you saw it?

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For? Maybe two seconds? Maybe? Yeah? Yeah?

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Could you get a feel as to how tall it was?

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Because of I guess being closer.

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I want to say about nine eight nine to ten

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almost nine feet, I would yeah, probably about nine feet definitely,

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maybe even a little bit bigger. I couldn't see the

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whole head. It was just like the top of his head,

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and it wasn't And that's what I seen was the

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top of the head, and you could almost see the

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girth of it when it turned, and I seen the elbow.

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Because I was like, that's not like I wanted to

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say out loud and say something. I wanted to stop,

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I wanted to do all these things, but I just

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was kind of like, no way, Yeah, Yeah, it was

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big definitely. Yeah.

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Have you ever talked to anyone else in that town

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about Bigfoot at all?

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No? But I do have a cousin that has logged

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in the area, and he tells a story about and

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that's the other Okay, let me get through this first.

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But he one morning they were up there getting ready

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to start logging, he said, and it was barely getting

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light outside, and he says that he's seen one crouched

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down behind a huge stump down down the unit and whatnot,

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and it got up and walked off. And he's not

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the type of guy that's, hey, you look at that,

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because he was totally in shock too. But he believes

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that's exactly what he seems too. He's been also been

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in the first his whole life. He knows the difference

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between a bear and something else. And then I do

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have a friend that lives out in out Diamond Rock,

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which is in the Drew area, passed the Ranger station,

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and she's they have a waterfall on their property. They

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have a large property up there and it's at the

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top of the hill. And she says, one evening they

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were going down there and she was staring at the

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waterfall and on the other side she seen something very

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tall standing there. In her mind right away, I've seen

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a bad befo. She cann't wait to tell me about it,

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and she was so excited about it and whatnot. And

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they're not people who would be like just like, oh,

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i've seen something, don't know what it is like. And

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that's what she's seen. She was dedicated to that's what

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she seeing. I believe her. But there's other people that

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have been around there. I don't understand how people cannot

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be aware of certain things, or maybe they just aren't

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lucky enough to have certain things happen to them. I

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don't get it because they're also come from a whole

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line of loggers in my family, and they've been not

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spent so much time in the woods and they've not

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had anything suspicious happened to them. I just feel lucky.

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That's extremely lucky. And I haven't had a visual citing

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myself yet, but I just I can't imagine. And you

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just try to think, Okay, two seconds, extremely quick, but

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it's enough time to just to stick with you for years, right,

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Oh yeah, yes, So in this area, it sounds like

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there's other Are there other weird things that happen in

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the woods as well? Or would you say the main

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thing is probably bigfoot that you have to deal with

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out there?

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Well, in that area. I'm gonna say, yes, there's a

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lot of squatchy stuff that goes on. I have another

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thing that happened, but I really like it if like

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he would be here with me to say the whole

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story with me and whatnot. I've contacted him and stuff,

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so hopefully he'll get back to me sooner. Maybe we

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can both do this with you at the same time.

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Sure, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, we can definitely definitely try to

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do that for sure. Have you ever heard anything happening

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over by the Prospect and Union Creek area?

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Yes, I have. And if you take the from Tiller

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to Trail and you cut over that way, you end

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up in a shady cove and then you can go

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to Prospect and all that. It's all. It's relatively close,

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but not it's driving time, but in the whole amount

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of the forested area, which is a big area. But yeah,

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it all connects. It's all. It's there. But yes, I

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have heard about a couple events over in that area. Yes,

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I even think I recently. Someone wasn't very recently, but

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I don't know if you know. Camus Valley is in

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this area too, but someone had said something. I heard

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a story about someone saying that they had seen them

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crossing the road right there. But to me, that's a

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busy road. But who am I to say, what, you know,

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what their traveling paths are or whatnot.

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Absolutely a lot of the things I was hearing from

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that area was things from hunters where they were being harassed.

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Just things are getting really intense, and usually this was

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like west of sixty two. Okay, yeah, that seems to

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be a dividing line, right, And.

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Yeah, like I said, I've got some more stories. I

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just I want people here with me that have been there,

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so so I got more because it just seems like

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for just one person to have a lot of experiences

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when other people haven't had any. And I'm not one

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to judge anybody or whatnot, but I've had some exciting

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things happen, and I just like to have people that

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have been with me or what not be like, yes,

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this is what happened.

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Well, yeah, there's no problem with that, for sure. I

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totally get that. Yeah, would there be any other things

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you might be able to share at this time or

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should we will try to get other people on board

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for another time.

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Then well let's try to get some get my friends

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get a hold of them and have them respond to me.

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But I do a lot of the train knocking. It

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is quite a phenomenon because like I've learned to look

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at woodpeckers or anything else that's going to make a

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train knock. And where I recently moved from Tiller on

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that property up there, the tree knocking, it wasn't constant,

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but it was. It was something like I said, it's

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not like a man made thing soever. It's definitely something

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very strong and very big picking up something else very

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big too, knock the tree with and whatnot. And so

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I just when people say they've heard tree knocking and whatnot,

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I hope that they've heard what I've heard too, because

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I've done a lot of looking stuff up and whatnot,

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and everybody seems a little different and went a little bit.

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I stressed to people a lot listen for tree knocking

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when you're out there, I would be the first line

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or something to listen to for sure.

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So when you hear that out there, are you hearing

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patterns or is there usually a common thing when you

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hear the tree.

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Mostly it's an yeah, it mostly it's a knock, knock, knock,

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And then and then it will stop, but from the

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driveway when we were walking up, because we lived three

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miles from the two nine two nine Forest Road, and

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then once you get on the two nine and two

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nine Forest Road, you got to go all the way

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down to the main road. So we look, I'm just

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gonna say BFI area. So we're pretty locked in this area.

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But the first time, my friend and I and our

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dog were walking out the gate, We're going to go

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look for ragots and at the creek, and we heard

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the knock and I looked at him and he was like,

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you thinks he's counting or something. I said, I don't know.

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And then my dog, at that point, had he likes

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his ball, and he had dropped his ball and it

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rolled down the hill. When he went to get it,

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he turned right around and came right back up. But

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as he came back up, then we heard another knock

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like up above us, across the road, and so I

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was like, maybe they're just letting them know that there's

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people down here. That's the only thing I could come

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up with at the time. But that was also a

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three knock, and then no other nothing until we came

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back and we had walked a good mile away from

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the house on the driveway, and as soon as we

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started coming back that we heard it again, but the

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second one didn't go off. It was just the same

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one that was down when my dog had lost his ball.

460
00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:51.079
Yeah, yeah, that's really interesting. You hear a lot of that,

461
00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:54.119
and it really does make you wonder, Okay, are the

462
00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:58.119
knocks happening because they're getting to a certain area, or

463
00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:01.680
sometimes you'll hear like they just arrived back in their

464
00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:04.359
area so they're gon we're going to talk about that,

465
00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:07.960
or maybe they're getting ready to leave, so let's maybe

466
00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.640
knocks that Hey, they're going to be gone for a while, so.

467
00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:13.759
You don't really know the other right. The other odd

468
00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:16.240
thing about when we're living up there was it's not

469
00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:18.200
odd to me I noticed a lot of things, especially

470
00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:20.839
on our driveway because nobody ever really came to visit

471
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:23.440
us or and whatnot. But and yeah, there are our

472
00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:26.039
elk that travels through the area and they do have

473
00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:29.279
a destructive pattern as they go through the trees and whatnot.

474
00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:32.359
But it was almost too much of it at times

475
00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:34.440
for it to be elk. When you're driving down our

476
00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:36.480
driveway to the house and whatnot. It was there'd be

477
00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:38.440
spots that I'd be like, what just came through here?

478
00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:40.680
Because it's not just it couldn't just be elk. Just

479
00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:43.440
the way the trees were being over, it's they wouldn't

480
00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:46.599
be like a little tree, it's a good, decent growing

481
00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:49.319
starting to grow, big tree that would just be knocked over.

482
00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:52.119
Or and I'll always look at the splits and how

483
00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:56.319
those things are, and it's this whole area is it's

484
00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:00.359
I just I don't know if nobody's maybe nobody's into it,

485
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.400
like we are something and don't want to doesn't want

486
00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:05.119
to go out there and looking, but I would. I've

487
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.759
always wanted to just pick a general area and sit there.

488
00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:10.200
Even though we lived where we lived, I think a

489
00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:11.799
lot of times we were a little bit too busy

490
00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:14.559
to be paying attention to other things. But I do

491
00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:17.720
feel like a lot of times they're right around us completely.

492
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:21.799
Yeah, it sounds like it. So you're saying that on

493
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:24.640
the property, you were seeing a lot of trees that

494
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:25.480
were arched over.

495
00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:29.799
Yes, also, and keep it mind, I have walked there's

496
00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:33.000
forty two acres out there, and we've walked every single

497
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:35.839
into that place up through the trees. And if there's

498
00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:39.519
five pond ponds on the property that are sporadically put

499
00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:41.640
out all the way there's our spring was up there.

500
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.400
So we've walked a lot all over this area. And yeah,

501
00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.359
but when I would notice the most is when we

502
00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:50.519
were driving down the driveway if something was to the way,

503
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:52.799
I see it was come up from one side of

504
00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:54.559
the road and cross the road and make a trail

505
00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:57.559
going up the other way. I know Elvis all run together,

506
00:24:57.640 --> 00:24:59.759
but not really in a formal line or anything. But

507
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:04.000
whatever comes through the woods right there is it's making it.

508
00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:07.039
It's going and it's pulling trees over and it's doing

509
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:10.119
cool things. And I've never seen any elk poop out

510
00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:13.759
it because we looked and stuff. But yes, and at

511
00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:16.039
one time I had taken pictures of all of these things.

512
00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.200
And I'm not really happy with Google right now because

513
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:23.880
I've just really lost a thousands of pictures. Yeah, terrible, Yes,

514
00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:24.319
it is.

515
00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:28.640
Not happy as well. When I was up in Mount

516
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.480
Hood this year, researcher took me to this area and

517
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:35.079
it was do you have any It looks like something

518
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:38.920
has grabbed a hold of a tree and just like

519
00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:43.880
twisted and broken it. But it's it's twisted over slash.

520
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:45.559
It's hard to explain, but I think you.

521
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:47.480
Might know what I know exactly what you're talking. It's

522
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:52.079
almost like they like are making a woven type area. Yeah, yes,

523
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:53.279
there's a lot of that out there.

524
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:59.640
Any are you seeing footprints in the area at all?

525
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:00.279
Do you think?

526
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.240
I'm not sure because there's things that have happened that

527
00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:06.519
I'm like that is definitely a footprint, but anything like that,

528
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:09.440
I don't know how they can't leave feet prints. But yeah,

529
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.160
there's been a couple definite things that I wish that

530
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:14.559
I would have went back to and at least done

531
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:16.519
something with it instead of just taking a picture that

532
00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:21.200
ends up losh. But yeah, definitely okay, And they're big strides.

533
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:22.200
That's pretty cool.

534
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:24.279
How long strides would you.

535
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:29.519
Estimate depending on how tall they are, If they're an

536
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:32.400
eight nine ten foot creature that are going to take

537
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:36.279
a probably a four foot three four or five maybe

538
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:39.720
three four five foot stride maybe, depending I don't I

539
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:40.960
think I'm not really sure.

540
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.720
God, Now, the place you guys were staying in on

541
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:49.240
the property, would there ever be any weird things that

542
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.079
would start happening around it? Something hitting the side or

543
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.319
one day you get out and you say, oh, hey,

544
00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:57.480
what's this on the ground? Was this left here? Why

545
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:00.759
is this animal? Doesn't happen well, stuff like that.

546
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:03.440
So I had we had to walk out of there

547
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.319
a few times and whatnot. And yeah, but we'd seen

548
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:10.599
like a bobcat skull obviously something that had been eating

549
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:13.160
on the head. But I don't for something tells me like,

550
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:16.200
I'm not really I don't really think they're eating. I

551
00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.279
don't know what they eat. But I do have to

552
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.599
say the two nights before we were moving from there,

553
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:23.759
killing me back up real quick. When we lived there

554
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:25.720
for five years, and I had a couple of friends

555
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.759
that had lost their home and stuff like that, and

556
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:30.200
they needed a place to store some stuff. So they came.

557
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.240
They put up a shed and they had their stuff

558
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.119
in there. And this was about a year and a

559
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:36.319
half after we had moved there. And they came one

560
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:39.200
evening to put stuff in there, and we had just

561
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:41.039
say dinner and we're getting ready to go to bed,

562
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.200
and we were down it was probably about a half

563
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:45.440
a mile from the front of the gate is where

564
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.839
we were staying on a trailer. And they said when

565
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:50.039
they left that night, what happened was in the following

566
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:52.000
day when we got down to where they were, my

567
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.160
friend said, did you hear that last night? And we

568
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:55.799
were like, no, what are you talking about? And he

569
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.839
was really just shaking about it, because in his eyes,

570
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:00.880
he's the meanest and the bad thing in the forest

571
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:02.640
and he's out there that's just how he is, because

572
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:05.000
he's not going to let himself be scared of anything.

573
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:08.160
But he started telling us the story about the sound

574
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.880
that he heard. He's all, it wasn't it was mad,

575
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:12.640
whatever it was, and he's on, I've been out here

576
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:14.960
a lot. I know bears, I know cougars, and in

577
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:17.440
my mind, I'm thinking cougars make all kinds of sounds,

578
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:19.480
and I have heard a bear out there roar and

579
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:21.519
stuff like that before. And he was like, it's nothing

580
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:23.839
like that. And so I can't really put it into

581
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.759
details what he said, because I still can't. Because when

582
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.200
we heard it two nights before we were moving leaving there,

583
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:32.160
when I looked at my boyfriend, I said, okay, so

584
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:35.079
what was that? And whatever it was, it made such

585
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:38.519
a sound and it was not a cat. It couldn't

586
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.200
have been. It was not a cat. And the way

587
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:45.079
that it was something big and angry and letting us

588
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:46.960
know it was right there is what it was doing.

589
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:50.880
And there's a rock pit on this property, and that's

590
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:53.799
where we both looked up towards, and it was wintertime.

591
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.880
The ponds up there were frozen, because right before that

592
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.880
we had been throwing rocks with the frozen waters, thinking

593
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:01.720
how cool it sounded when the rocks hit off of

594
00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:04.559
the heir and whatnot. And then so the thing roared

595
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:06.720
or was yelled at us or something, and when I

596
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.279
looked at my boyfriend, I said, so, what was that,

597
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:11.000
and he was like, I'm not right fully sure. And

598
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:12.720
then it did it again, and he said, get the

599
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.440
dogs in the house, and I'm like wanting to stand

600
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.960
there because I'm expecting something big just to step out,

601
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.960
or trees to start moving or something to happen. And

602
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.880
nothing happened. And then on the third time, we both

603
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.920
ran in the house also and we're standing there and

604
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:29.160
it did it one more time, and then we looked

605
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:31.319
out there all night long. We didn't from our window.

606
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:32.759
We didn't want to go back out because we're not

607
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:34.559
I've been all over that place, like I said, all

608
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.039
times of the day and night, not worrying about nothing.

609
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:39.119
When something's out there, or when it's too quiet and

610
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:41.000
you get the evgbi's and okay it's time to go

611
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:43.240
in and stuff like that. But this was it was

612
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:45.599
he was something. So then when I seen my friend

613
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:47.480
a couple of days after that, I said, I was

614
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.759
telling him I think I heard what you heard, and

615
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.640
we both have the same description. It was angry. It

616
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:55.480
was not a bear, or it couldn't have been a bear,

617
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:57.559
or we hope maybe we hoped it was a bear,

618
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:01.200
but we just it was unexplainable. Well that's basically what

619
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:01.559
it was.

620
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:05.279
Gotcha and did this happen? Did this all happen after

621
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:11.720
you had the experience near Diamond Lake that area, or yes, yeah.

622
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.440
Okay, yes, all of the things that have happened after that.

623
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.480
I feel also, like I was told one time, like

624
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:19.759
once you have an encounter, you're more likely to have

625
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.240
more than you are not too And that's why I

626
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.480
feel like I'm blessed to have these things happen, because

627
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:28.720
people in organ in their whole lives have not had

628
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.440
anything out of the ordinary ever happened, or that they

629
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:34.079
weren't paying attention to. So I feel blessed, and I

630
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:36.279
do feel like if you do have an encounter, whether

631
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:41.880
it's you know of sasquatch nature or anything else, you

632
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.119
are more likely to have more.

633
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:45.160
No, I agree with you. I think there's a few

634
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:49.720
different ways to look at that. There's a side that thinks, okay,

635
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:54.960
it followed me home, or there's another side, like with

636
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.119
doctor Siemi and Hine, where you know you're in an

637
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:02.160
area where then and you get open up to things

638
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:08.359
and then you just you're aware of this stuff. Yes,

639
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:10.720
I don't know if there's a right or wrong way

640
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:13.440
to look at that yet. But so you guys don't

641
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.599
live there anymore. You are out of there.

642
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:19.160
We are. But I've even joked and made the I

643
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:21.119
want to go back, and we can go back. It's

644
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:23.319
just we needed to come to town this winter because

645
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.400
it's rough out there during the winter times and whatnot.

646
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:27.799
It's and if you're not we've been made it out

647
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.119
there the last five years. I just have grand babies

648
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:32.119
now I need to spend some time in town with them.

649
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:37.079
Yeah, to get it. Yeah, absolutely that whoever is going to,

650
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.720
whoever is on that property is probably having stuff happen.

651
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:46.039
I would guess. So you're in town, so definitely nothing

652
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:48.759
happened happening, I would imagine not.

653
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:50.440
In town though exactly exactly.

654
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:53.880
Yeah, have you ever heard of any weird stories that

655
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:55.400
have happened over by Creator Lake.

656
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:01.200
Miss, Like, I think I've heard about Okay, so yeah,

657
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.599
but I can't really just I know there was a

658
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:08.240
missing person's story maybe, and I think that also I

659
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:10.160
had heard a story of someone saying they were walking

660
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:11.960
on one of the trails and they felt like they

661
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.039
were being followed or watched or something and whatnot, And

662
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.279
a couple of times after turning around, they in their

663
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.000
mind that they were seeing a sasquatch hiding behind a tree,

664
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.640
almost like he would look out and they would like

665
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.559
set back because they're like trying to make sure it's

666
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.440
not a bear or something, and then step forward and

667
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.720
it would peek its head out. I do remember hearing

668
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.640
that story my friend who told me about that you

669
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:34.119
don't go and find things that don't want to be found.

670
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:38.279
He their family is very involved in the tribal community

671
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.680
and whatnot, and when he was younger, they were also

672
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:45.240
in the Tiller area or Drew area actually, and he

673
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:47.319
says at one point time the dogs were barking at

674
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:50.160
night time. He got up and he's seen something running

675
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.640
down the driveway. He said it was huge, it was

676
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.279
running really fast, and he just stood there in shock.

677
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:57.440
He was a young kid. And then I know that

678
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.160
his grandpa. The next day, his grandpa and whoever his

679
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.519
grandpa had with him went and took plaster plaster or

680
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.519
feet molds or however that works, of that of the footprint,

681
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.680
And I don't know whatever became of that. I could

682
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:10.119
probably try to get ahold of him and see what

683
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:11.519
happened with that. Yeah.

684
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.799
So yeah, that's really interesting because they were their Native

685
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:20.200
American background. Yes, but yes, that's something I don't think

686
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.640
I've ever heard that where usually that's the thing you

687
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.640
hear that from researchers, where yeah, let's go cast the print,

688
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:27.039
but it's it's wiring.

689
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:31.720
Yeah, exactly. So I feel like his grandpa, I mean,

690
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.440
he had some knowledge that nobody got to really tap

691
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.000
into before he passed away and stuff like that. But

692
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.559
the things that I've been told from his grandson, it

693
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.039
makes sense. It just you know, something here knew something.

694
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.240
Otherwise he wouldn't just go out and get somebody that

695
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.240
could come plaster the footprint, like he knew something had happened.

696
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:51.720
Yeah, I bet there was. There is quite the story

697
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.759
there potentially. Yeah, like in this this, Yeah, this is

698
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.599
an area where I'm hearing more about it. But yeah,

699
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.200
as I said said earlier, I usually hang out up

700
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:05.400
in Oak Ridge and up there's so much going on,

701
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:09.039
but down in this that's what I've heard. There definitely

702
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:13.800
seems to connecting this Tiller and Drew and then over

703
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.000
Union Creek and Prospect and.

704
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:19.079
It just yeah, even all the way to Diamond Lake. Yeah,

705
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:19.960
it's all connected.

706
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.639
I would definitely say so, which of course is probably

707
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.119
because of the cascades that run right up Oh yes,

708
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:28.239
right up through it. Oh, just because you live down

709
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.280
in this area. Have you heard anything about over in

710
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:32.719
the Wolf Creek area?

711
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.960
Not so much sasquatchy stuff, but other stuff. Yeah, more

712
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.679
paranormal type activity in that direction. Yeah.

713
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.440
Yeah, so the stories you hear of I think there's

714
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.800
like a haunted hotel, and you usually hear yeah.

715
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:52.320
I stayed there, you have, okay, yeah, oh yeah, there's

716
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.360
even a talent that's called Golden in the paranormal part

717
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:57.840
of it. But yeah, the town that's called Golden and

718
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.199
it's a pretty hot spot for paranormal activity.

719
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:01.559
Is it like a ghost town.

720
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:03.079
Yeah.

721
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:09.559
Yeah, okay, very cool, Very cool, Carisa, this has been

722
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.559
a very interesting conversation. I don't think I've ever heard

723
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.880
anything about Tiller and Drew, so I'm glad that we

724
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.400
were able to talk. Hopefully we'll be able to maybe

725
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.480
get something set up for the future when you're able

726
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.880
to have your some of your friends on to be

727
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.280
able to share stories together, which I think would be great.

728
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.559
That's always awesome when that happens. But I want to

729
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:33.400
make sure that you're able to share everything that you

730
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.519
would be able to share on the show this time.

731
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.719
I'm in right now. I definitely want to get my friends.

732
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.039
I'll be on them, don't worry about that.

733
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:45.199
Yeah, awesome, very good. Thank you so much for coming

734
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:48.800
on and for spending some time today talking to us about.

735
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:51.440
This area of Oregon, and thank you for having me.

736
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:56.559
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

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