March 10, 2026

A Florida Researcher’s Terrifying Sasquatch Encounters in Pasco County

A Florida Researcher’s Terrifying Sasquatch Encounters in Pasco County
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Season 1

In this episode, we delve into the intense and life-altering experiences of Mike Aguilar, senior field researcher with the Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group, who has spent years investigating Sasquatch activity across central Florida. His journey began with a daylight road crossing in Homosassa that shifted his understanding of the woods forever. What followed were deep forest encounters inside protected preserve land in Pasco County, where massive footprints, constructed bedding areas, and intricate tree formations revealed an organized and ongoing presence.


Mike shares close-range moments that left a lasting physical impact, including powerful vocalizations, stick throws, and a tree push-over event that forced him to rethink how he approached the forest. Over time, he established a long-term gifting area where repeated interaction unfolded in subtle and intelligent ways, including object manipulation and strategic movement around trail cameras.


He also discusses footprint comparisons with leading researchers, fieldwork in the Pacific Northwest, and the unique connection his family has experienced while spending time in active areas. Mike’s detailed testimony offers a grounded and compelling look at Sasquatch activity in Florida’s preserves, painting a picture of a presence that is aware, adaptive, and deeply rooted in the landscape.


Join us as we explore Mike’s firsthand encounters and the evolving relationship he has built within the wild spaces of central Florida.

Resources:

Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group: https://www.midfloridabigfoot.com/

Contact Mike here: https://www.facebook.com/mike.aguilar.52

Mike's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SquatchinFL


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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society, Welcome

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back to another episode. Today, we've got the privilege of

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talking to Mike Aguilar. Mike is a senior field researcher

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for the Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group and he's been

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doing that for over six years. You've heard of this

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organization from my interviews with Marie Dumont. I've talked to

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her a few times over the last few years. But

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finally able to have Mike on the show. I've got

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just a long list, as you can imagine. I'm like, man,

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i gotta get Mike on, and then it just worked

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out I'm not sure if I can't remember if I

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reached out to you or how it worked out, but

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it worked out finally, And Mike, welcome to the show.

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How are you doing today? Man?

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Awesome, man, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

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Happy to be.

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So, Mike, you are down there in the state of Florida.

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You guys have got so much going on, so many

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I mean hot zone area hotspot areas. I'm looking at

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my map and looking at other maps that are out there.

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You guys have a lot, a lot of stuff going on.

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But you know, you were telling me you've actually had

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multiple visual sightings over the years, but it probably would

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be best to kind of start back when you first

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all got into this and what you got into.

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Yeah, So starting out like I was pretty much like everyone.

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I didn't I didn't not believe. I didn't believe it

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was this kind of I enjoyed watching the shows when

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they came on. You know, it wasn't anything that was

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in a part of my life. It literally wasn't a

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part of my life until it walked in front of

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me and I was My journey started in twenty seventeen.

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I was uh in Homo sass of Florida, and that

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was about an hour a little over an hour from

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where I grew up. But I used to go fishing

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there a lot. And I was with my best friend

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and we were going to go fishing that day and

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we were There's an area it's called Old Mason Creek

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Road and it's a private like a boat ramp. At

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the end of that road is a private ramp. So

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that's the one I always like to usually get away

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from all the traffic, from all the people that go

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to Homa sas Or River for scalloping and stuff. So

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we're driving it's like six thirty in the morning, and

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that time of year, the sun is like, you know,

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just starting to peek up above the trees. And so

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as we're coming down the road, there's a set of

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s curves and if you're coming around this curve, you

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can see up ahead to like the third curve. And

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as I'm coming around the curve on that third curve,

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I see this, you know, shadow, walking up towards the

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edge of the road from left to right. And he

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was just a big just look like a big dude

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walking up on the edge. And as I coming around

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the curve, he walks up. He goes into the to

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the road, probably about eighty yards ahead of me or so,

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and he walks and he goes from shadow and he

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crossed the road. I remember he took like one or

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two steps and was almost across the road like halfway,

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and he just had that perfect patty look like he

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looked over arms swinging cross the road. And when he

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hit the light, he turned from shadow to cinnamon and

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he was like reddish brown color and every bit of

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seven foot tall at least. And my best friend's literally

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right beside me looking out the window. I don't know

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what he was looking at, but the sun just hit

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him just perfect, and with the sun behind him, it

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was like a silhouette and you could tell it was Harry.

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You could just you could see it, like it lit

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him up, and I like him came around the curve

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and came back around again. As you come back, he

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was gone. It was that quick, and I'm like, my

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brain took a photo, you know. I was like, holy crap.

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So I pulled up my stop. I'm like, oh my god,

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like did you see that thing? And he's like, what

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are you talking about? I was like, you didn't see that?

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Thing just walking across the road. He's like, what youre

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talking about? I was like, dude, it was Harry and

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it was tall. It was huge. It was big. It

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wasn't like bulky big. He was like, like, I go

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to the gym, basketball player, big tall guy, you know,

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And it wasn't super bulky. It was tall and kind

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of like ripped looking like just perfect frame. And but

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he was sideways because I caught that side angle watching him.

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But my friend never saw it. I couldn't believe it,

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like it was that quick, and he just never saw it.

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And we got out. I'm looking around. He thought I

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was like losing my mind, and till this day he

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still never saw it and doesn't know what to think

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of it. You know. It was just I saw it

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and he didn't, and it changed my life, Like I had.

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I had to know what I saw, and I couldn't

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stop thinking about it over and over, like I kept

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playing that picture in my head, watching that thing come

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up and right in front of me, and I just

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I dove nose deep, like headfirst into the rabbit hole.

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You know. Wow, I couldn't couldn't stop after.

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So how long would you would you say that the

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entire road crossing took in front of you.

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Maybe five to eight seconds. Just as it was coming up.

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It came up from the side and as I'm going

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around the curve, you know, he's just coming up walking

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and it just was right in front of me. Just

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never stopped. He was just fluidly going. You know. It

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felt like it was a slow motion, but it was

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just pretty quick. You know. But since then, I've had

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I've had a lot a lot closer things happened. I

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would say, Okay, I got I got to see things,

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got to see things a lot closer.

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Oh, I can't wait to hear about that. I got

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one one or two more questions about this, because this

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is very interesting. So you have the side view, but

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then you have it looked back towards you for a

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short amount of time. Did you notice anything about the

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face when it looked back towards you during that time?

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It was it was just it was just far enough

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where I couldn't see facial details, but I could just

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see the arm swing as he looked back. It was

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almost perfect, like if you look at the Patty film,

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like just happened to look looking over towards me, like

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like I'm looking at you as I'm crossing the road.

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You know, he just looked over and his arms were

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swinging and I could tell his arms were down past

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his knees when he as he walked, because I was

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like this, Wow, my goodness.

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Yeah, eighty yards would be really the perfect amount of

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distance for you not to be able to I mean

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that's almost what just under three tennis courts. So yeah,

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it would be very hard to see facial details, I'd imagine.

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So then after this, it sounds like you really dive

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into the subject, should try to find out more about it.

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Yeah, I just I watched At first. I just I

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did probably what everybody does. I watched every document documentary

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and everything I could learn and try and figure out.

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And I learned a lot from doctor Meldrum before I

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ever met him, and just just watching documentaries, and him

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and Stacy Brown were some of the first people I

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ever watched, because Stacey was from Florida, and those were

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the first person people I was trying to learn paying

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see what they were doing. And then I just started

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going out on my own and because I wanted to

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find answers, so I started using things of how I

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grew up in Florida. I mean, I've been in these

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woods my whole life and I had never seen anything

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like that. But I figured, if this thing is nocturnal

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like it's supposed to be, then I'm going to go

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out in the middle of the day when it's resting

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and it's relaxed. And that's what I'm gonna find it.

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And that's what I did, and it worked, and it's

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scared to out of me. I had two bad ones.

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I had two bad ones happen, and since those, I've

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changed the way I do everything because I don't ever

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want to go through those experiences again. The bad ones,

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Oh my goodness.

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And so this is pre you being involved with Mid

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Florida Bigfoot Research Group.

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Right right, This was I had. I had two I

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had two experiences happened. I call them, I say, my

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bad ones. They're they're bad ones. But they were my fault.

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And I know that now because I've never had another

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bad one. And I learned a lot. You know. We

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took a trip to the specific Northwest and I got

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to meet Thomas Suit and then that was awesome, and

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he he told me things I was doing wrong, and

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he made jokes with me about it. But you learn

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from it, you know. And I realized it's so clear

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with things it was all my fault, you know. I

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walked into something's back door without knocking, right when it

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was resting. Well, I think that I take the road

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of they're more like us than they are more than

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more animal. That's the way I look at it. And

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because they're they're so intelligent, and I know they're in

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family groups. But so my thought was, I'm gonna go

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in the middle of the day, the hottest part of

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the day in Florida, you know, one o'clock in Florida

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during like I think it was, it was probably around

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April was when the first one happened, and that's probably

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about eighty nine ninety degrees. It's pretty hot, so usually

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most things are betted down and relaxing. So I grew

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up in an area that is right backs up to

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a observe that's ninety eight hundred acres in Florida. That's

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a lot of land because everything's being funneled in, and

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if you know the corridors and you follow them where

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they run into areas, you find these small areas that

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are protected and nobody can go in there. This area

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in particular, you can't hunt, you can't drive in there. Nothing.

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So I had to get on a bicycle and ride.

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It's where I grew up and as a kid, I

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always always in there. There's a creek that runs through there.

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So I said, I'm going to go to that creek.

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That's that water source. Is going to be by the

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water source. I found the deepest, thickest hammock that I

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could find, and I'm going to go. I circled it

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on the map. I said, I'm going to go there,

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so I did. I drove my bike in and I rode.

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It's almost three mile bike ride. And then once I

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got off the bike, it was about a half a

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mile trail walk to where the creek goes through, really

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deep into the forest. And I'm walking down that trail

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and I get I had to make a rite and

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then there's a little tiny trail that went towards the water.

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And as I'm walking down the trail, there was a

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tree broken this way, and there was a tree broken

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this way, two different ways, crossing blocking the path, And like,

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you know, your gut tells you not to do something.

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My gut said, you're not. That's telling you not to

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be in here, but I didn't listen to it. I

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was a gung ho like. I was not scared of

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anything growing up in Florida. Not much a scary. If

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you've rustled alligators and every type of critter, you can

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your whole life. And I stepped over that limb, stepped

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over the next one, and I found what looked like

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about a probably thirteen fourteen its footprint, and I'm like,

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that's a footprint. And there was another one that looked

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like another impression in front of it. I'm like, this

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is really a footprint. And I'm looking at that footprint

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and I heard something go and it cracked, and to me,

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it sounded like a tree about that big around popped.

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And have you ever heard have you ever heard the

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sound it makes when something falls into palmetto palms, It's

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extremely loud. Palmetto palms are super loud. There wasn't a wind,

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there wasn't a breath blowing. It was a hot part

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of day, not a sound being made. And that thing crunched.

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It sounded like it got up and used something to

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help it get up, and it broke and fell into

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the palmados and it made this rumbling sound started coming

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towards me, just just and it gurgling, and it was

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like instant, like you feel it, and it was holy cow.

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And I kind of like half head turned and I

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couldn't see where it was at, but it was close.

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Because if the sound was close in that growl when

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it came through, I always joked and said, like I

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compared it to like a giant, a giant gator bellowing,

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like a like a deeper version of an alligator. Been

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at bellows that like the gurgling gurgle sound, And but

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it hit me. And when it hit me, it was like, okay,

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my My exact words were, I'm sorry, I'm leaving. I

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didn't That's what I said. I'm sorry, I'm leaving. I turned.

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I knew not to run because I didn't know it

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was what it was. You know, I knew what it was,

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but I didn't know what it was. I start walking

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and I'm walking down that trail. That thing just growled

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at me now and I'm terrified. I'd get up to

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the front and I have to make a left. So

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it was on all right, So if you're looking down

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the trail, it was on my right. So as I'm

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turning around and going out. It's on my left the

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trail I came in on. Now it's gonna be on

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my left side. So I start walking down the trail.

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It starts paralleling me. Crunch, crunch. I stopped. It stopped.

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Then I heard another set of footprints, crunch, crunch, and

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maybe a third. There was multiple ones that were following crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch.

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I kept hearing a funny sound, and I'm trying to, like,

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butck pucker walk out of there because I'm scared and

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I don't want to run, like I said, in case

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it triggered it to come after me whatever, you know.

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And I hear I kept hearing this and then the

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stick landing in front of me. They were throwing sticks

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at me. They were flipping them at me, and it's

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not like they were trying to necessarily take me out

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with them, but it's like they were getting me out

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of there. I start walking down. I swear into my peripheral.

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I saw something go past me, and I thought, that's it.

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He's gonna go up, he's gonna flight me. I'm done,

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and but it never happened. I made it back to

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my bike and it was like, I said, about a

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three mile right out of there, and I pedaled that

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fast as I've ever put on my life. I got

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back to my truck and I'm like sitting there and

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I started feeling sick, and then I threw up. I

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threw up again. I couldn't hold it down. I'm like,

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what was wrong with me? And my ears started ringing.

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I started feeling horrible, started getting sweats like I was

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horribly sick feeling, and I didn't know until later that

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I got zap. I got hit with him for sound

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is what we think one hundred percent. For three days,

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my ears were swollen, feeling like like inside, felt like

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someone had done something damage to them. To this day,

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they still have I can't dive anymore. I can't dive

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under like three feet of water because it's did something

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to my ears. It's it's weird. Oh my goodness. That

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was number two.

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That is some scary stuff. Have have you gotten other

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reports from the same area of other people having similar instances.

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Or there's been white a few reports from this area

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On the other side of there's two ways to come in.

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There's only two ways to come into this preserve and

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on the other side. There's a I believe there's a

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b fro O report from over there. And there was

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another person who grew up over there as well. I

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can't give out his name because I'm not sure you

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know how he feels about that right now, But I've

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talked to him and he said he's had him on

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his property and he's had things happen over there, and

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he's on the other side of the preserve from me.

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I never even knew all this, you know. I thought

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I was the only one that had anything happen out

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there till recently, and as far as I know, I'm

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the only person that's done research out there though. And

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I I found I found. I met up with, you know,

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David Sidoti from is s R T, and he him

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and his group came and met up with me. They

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were the They were one of the first people I

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ever met up with. And I found I found this

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inverted tree out there. That was the first thing I

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found before I even made it back to the trail.

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I found this inverted for cypress tree that was forty

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foot long with the root ball sticking up in the air.

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It was only about twenty feet off a trail. It

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was looking a marker. It was like, I mean, the

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root ball, it's the coolest picture. And as far as

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I know, I was the first person to find a

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big inverted tree like that in Florida. We thought, you know,

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it's like a Pacific Northwest thing or Alaska thing. But

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this was this huge cypress tree right in the middle

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of a pine area. No cypress trees. Cypress trees were

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probably three hundred yards away, and it was brought over

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there and propped up perfect with the root ball, this

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gnarly looking root ball sticking up in the air. It's

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a great picture. I'll send it to you another time.

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I'll share it with you. It is really cool looking.

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Thank you. But so that area, that area led me

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to other areas that revolved around that creek. That creek

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was the life source, and I just basically what I

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started doing. I started going into all the thickest cypress

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hammock areas down that creek and trying to find the

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most remote places that nobody had been in a long time.

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And it's all one part of big funnel part. It's

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the most narrow area that you can have protected land

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like that throughout the area. Basically there's building going all

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the way around it. So everything's forced into there, the hogs,

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the deer, turkeys, everything is forced into this little, small funnel.

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I mean, that makes perfect sense why you would go

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to a place like that to just to get potential activity.

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Everything's being forced in there. Well, so are we This

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is actually a question I should have asked earlier. Are

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you considering these skuncape or bigfoot or how are you

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referring to them in this area.

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I'm a believer there's two species. I think there's two ones,

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a subspecies or something. Then I think that's I think

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that's starts about just south of Tampa, south Tampa, Mayaca,

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down through the Everglades. I don't I'm not saying that's

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there can't be big fir sasquatch down there, because I've

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seen things that says there is. But I think that

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there's whatever those species are. I think their line is

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kind of by Tampa, somewhere in that area, and they

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seem to be a little more aggressive and a little

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more primal, like a little more not quite as educated

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if you would, you know, like we don't find structures

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as much. We don't find you don't find it as

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much knowledge to me, like the things that we find

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in the other areas, like a lot of like weavings

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and tree structures and different things and markers. We find

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that a lot more north of Tampa Tampa North. That's

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extremely interesting.

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Okay, yeah, that's something I'd never heard of, but probably

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something cool worth looking into. What was the main lesson

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that you learned from that varience that you you were

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not going to to replicate in the future.

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I no longer dress in full camo, and I don't

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go if I'm going into an area, I announce myself now,

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I said, I have one more. That was the one

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that sealed it for sure, but I quit, like I said,

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but that was the one that really got me. But

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I had one more, when I would say, very unsettling

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one and it was the worst one yet. And that

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one happened with my dog with me. But but I

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just after those two. Like that's the main thing, though,

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is like middle of the day is when they're relaxing,

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and if you want to catch one off guard, that's

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when you do it. And that's what happened. I mean,

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think about it. You walk up on deer, you jump

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deer all the time in the middle of the day

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when it's hot, they're bedded down, and I think that's

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what they do as well. Everything in Florida gets more

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active at night. It seems to be hogs deer, it's cooler,

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less people because we're so congested with so many people

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and everything too, and it just makes a lot more sense.

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So really, it sounds like you almost and you can

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tell me if if I'm on the right track or not,

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but it sounds like you kind of changed your intention

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of how you were going into these areas. I mean,

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you're not dressed up as a hunter and camo. You're

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kind of more laid back. Maybe you're announcing yourself. You're

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not trying to to pull one over whatever's in there.

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I don't know, right, And so I'll give you. I'll

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give you, I mean, I'll give you the next one

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that that finished it, because then I can tell you

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some good things, okay, because I learned a lot those

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two bad Those two bad experiences really led me to

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a lot of good ones afterwards, after I changed a

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lot of things, you know. But so the second time

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was another area that and what I do is, like

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I said, I kind of feel drawn to those areas.

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I look at them. Same thing with fishing spots. I'll

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go on, I'll go on a map and look, okay,

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I want to fish this spot. Same thing. And I'm

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good at finding spots like that, areas that I think

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something should be. So this area was closer towards Tampa

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and still part of the same creek system. And you

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the area is a narrow area, very very hard to

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get into, but it's very close to It backs up

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to a million dollar neighborhood, like one of the richiest

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neighborhoods and throughout Tampa in Basco County. And so I

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found a way in. And if there's a power line

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run that runs through it, and I, you know, paying attention, like,

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oh power line run, stuff happens. Well, I found a

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power line run that has not been mowed in thirty

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years because it's too wetback there. The creek runs into it,

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so nobody goes back there. And there's a creek that

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cuts off. So in order to do you get to

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the spot that I found, you have to walk three

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miles around and not me, people are gonna do that,

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walk around the creek to go back and come in

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another mile back into it. In order to get to

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where it's at. You don't understand what I'm saying, like

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you gotta go three miles out of your way and

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come back a mile in. And the reason we found

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the spot was me and my son. I took him

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fishing and the creek to kind of do squatch a

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little and fish a little too, and we heard some

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stuff going crazy. But I always called him the Foreurner

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pound bard owls, the Foreurner pound owls, because it's like, like,

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what doesn't sound like It's not like, you know, it's

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more like like, well, we're sitting there fishing, and you

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could see around the corner. My son saw something and

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he's like, Dad, I see something. It's looking at me

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from the tree. And I thought he was messing with me,

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you know, And I'm like, all right, son, you know whatever.

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He starts crying like he gets mad, like Dad, oh,

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I see something. It was looking at me from the

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side of the tree. The creek goes in zigzags, so

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if you're looking down the side, it's about a block

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away you can see the trees up there. And all

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of a sudden, after he said that, it sounded like

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a flock of bardows started going off at eleven o'clock

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in the morning, just like it was wild and I

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was like, all right, this is weird. So I ended

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up taking taking him home and I'm like, I'm coming

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back the next day. And that's what I did. I

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looked up and the map, figured out how to get

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over there, and I go into this area with my dog.

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I had my dog Miley with me and had her

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00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:37.079
on her leash. We walk into the area and I

454
00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.680
just randomly found this area that was go heading towards

455
00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:43.759
the creek again. And as I'm walking in, I see

456
00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:46.960
I stead of first I found are trees that were bent.

457
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:48.920
It was some of the first tree binds and brakes

458
00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:51.079
I had really found. And they were really cool, like

459
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:52.920
the way they had been bent, like twisted and bent

460
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:55.559
and bent over. And I started getting all that weird

461
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.079
ear feeling again. And I'm getting back in there and

462
00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:03.039
I find this. There's three palmetto palm and the palmeto

463
00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.039
palm trees don't fall over easy, even with hurricanes, and

464
00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.359
this was a cluster of three and it was pushed

465
00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:11.640
over like it ook it. It's pushed over. There was

466
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:14.480
a root ball sticking up, it was dug out underneath

467
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:18.079
it and it looked like a body had been laying

468
00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.720
in there. On the right side of the cluster, there

469
00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:25.440
was a skinned tree, completely bald, and it was propping

470
00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.000
up this side of the cluster. So the trees were

471
00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:30.920
like this, and on this side of the root ball

472
00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:33.640
there was another one, so it was being supported both

473
00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.759
ways with stripped looked like poles. There were trees that

474
00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:39.400
were like this on each side, so one by the

475
00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.359
trees and one by the back of the rootball, so

476
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.039
there was no way for it to fall down. Under

477
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.480
this side where the palmetto palms was, it was bedded

478
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:49.839
down with more palmetto fronds. It was a clear nest,

479
00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:52.480
so there was a nest in there, and there was

480
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:54.279
a nest on the back side of it dug out.

481
00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:58.920
And then I learned looking around and I find more

482
00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:02.519
there's pump the root balls. They were dug out underneath,

483
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:05.119
and they were laying under them, is what they were doing.

484
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:07.759
They some of them were pushed over and they were

485
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.039
digging out the root balls to make easy little shelters,

486
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:13.240
little beds, is what it looked like they were doing.

487
00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:17.720
So I go walking out after I had filmed all that,

488
00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:20.559
and I go walking out towards the main it's like

489
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:22.920
a four wheeler trail that went through and I'm walking

490
00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:24.839
down and I found footprints on that four wheeler trail.

491
00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:27.200
I'm like, this is freaking incredible. I found a lot

492
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:29.880
of footprints, like really good ones, and I walked up

493
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:34.599
to a set of nineteen inch footprints. They were massive,

494
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:37.119
and I have good pictures of those two. There's two

495
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.119
of them and boom boom, and they were in the

496
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:42.000
grass though, off the edge of the road. They weren't

497
00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:43.720
right in the road, they were off the edge, but

498
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:47.920
whatever it was was so heavy. They were nineteen by

499
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.240
nine wide. They were massive, but the mud was that

500
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:54.480
thick coming out from the back of the grass. So

501
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.440
this thing had to be a thousand pounds and it

502
00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:00.119
was like juiced up on the back of it. You

503
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:03.039
can see it, and it was it was wild. How

504
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.880
good it was. Well, I started getting that feeling again,

505
00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.279
and I'm like, you know what, I'm not doing that again.

506
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:11.599
I'm like, I'm not gonna go in and get hit

507
00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:13.599
by one of these things again. I'll come back with

508
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:16.680
my friend. You know, I'm gonna come back. It was

509
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:18.960
already too late. I don't know if I got too

510
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.519
close or what it was. My dog starts doing her

511
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:24.559
little low growl. I just got done filming the picture,

512
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.880
the footprints, and she starts growling real low, looking at

513
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.640
the woodline, which was about thirty yards from me, twenty

514
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.240
yards probably about twenty yards actually twenty twenty five something

515
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.519
like that. Our it was real thick. You couldn't see

516
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.519
into it, but you could see trees sticking up above it,

517
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:45.759
three of them. And I heard something and she, you know,

518
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.720
she perked up and it sounded like a stomp. It

519
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:51.640
felt like it. It felt like something went boom. It stomped

520
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:54.960
the ground boom. And I'm like, and she jumped, and

521
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:58.359
her hair's raised up. It starts growling, and then that

522
00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:02.039
tree in the middle move and then it moved again,

523
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:07.079
and then it freaking went like this, and it was

524
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.559
this is a tree that was eight inches ten inches around,

525
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:14.200
a decent sized tree, fifty foot tall. I was like, ok,

526
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:15.920
I can't tell you exactly what tree it was, but

527
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.839
it shook it like this and it let out off

528
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:23.519
the sound and it pushed the whole tree over and

529
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:25.960
she turned and almost killed herself on the on the

530
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.119
on the leash, trying to get away she's like, wow,

531
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.880
I hung herself. I literally turned, I said, I yelled

532
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:35.160
at I'm sorry, I'm leaving, and dude, I had tears

533
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:38.400
in my eyes, like I'm a grown ass man and

534
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.359
I'd never had. That was the second time I gues say.

535
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:43.720
The first time was primal fear. This time was like

536
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:48.119
primal fear, excel, and I don't care who you are,

537
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.000
how tough you think you are when something like that happens,

538
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:55.680
You're not. You're not tough. That thing scared the crap

539
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:58.559
out of me. And I picked up the phone. I

540
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:00.920
called my best friend. I'm like this, and remember where

541
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.519
I told you where I was going. I'm there and

542
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.400
something is following me. It just pushed a tree over.

543
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:09.119
He's like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, listen,

544
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.680
if I don't call you in twenty minutes, call me again.

545
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.359
If I don't answer, this is where my body's at.

546
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:21.200
Like that thing is mad, it's pissed off at me. Well,

547
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.880
long story short, I made it back. It didn't hurt me.

548
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.279
It bluffed me. It worked one hundred and ten percent

549
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.119
worked because I wanted no part or whatever that thing was.

550
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:39.119
But so that was the second bad one. The last

551
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:40.880
time I ever had, last time I ever had a

552
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:41.559
real bad one.

553
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:45.319
Wow, that's that's intense. I'm going to guess you probably

554
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:47.440
have never been back to that area since.

555
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.759
Actually, no, I'm stubborn. I've been back quite a few times,

556
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:58.759
and I've never had That's actually where me, RPG and

557
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.079
his kids and my kids, it's all went back to

558
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:04.160
that area together. This is years later, now, it's been

559
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:10.000
This was in twenty twenty nineteen when that happened, and

560
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:11.759
so it's been quite a few years. I've been going

561
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:13.880
there for a long time. Actually, I've had I started

562
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.200
having better things happen, and now I wouldn't take the

563
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:19.119
kids in there right after that happened. Now I wouldn't

564
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.519
do that. And my son's considerably older now too, you know,

565
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.039
he's eleven. But we took all of our kids back there,

566
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.240
and I've never had a bad feeling ever. Again. I

567
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:30.240
just think I don't know if I pissed off the rogue,

568
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:32.799
I pissed off the alpha with the dog. I don't

569
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:36.400
know what I did, but that thing was pissed and

570
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:38.799
I just got I think I got too close to it,

571
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:41.000
to its maybe I got too close to its little ones.

572
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:43.480
Who knows, but it was it did his job. It

573
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:48.200
ran me out of there. And but that same area

574
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:50.359
my son where I was telling you earlier, that's when

575
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:53.519
my son had a class A sighting. He saw it

576
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.079
right there. He saw it, like squat go. It was

577
00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:59.559
looking at him. It was he came up from the

578
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.240
back of it. Me RPG and his kids were walking

579
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.960
out this way farther out about ten yards from him,

580
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:07.480
and it didn't see him. And as he came around

581
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:09.519
the corner, he was staring at it and it was

582
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:11.000
he said, it was that it was eight foot and

583
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.119
four foot wide jet black, he said, looked at him

584
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.039
and just said it looked like it hovered down like

585
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.200
con But he was he started crying, like what's wrong,

586
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.160
what's wrong? He's like, I just saw one, Like he

587
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.759
was so dead serious. It's we've got it on film,

588
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.519
like not him seeing it, but what happened afterwards, you know,

589
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:34.079
And it's really a cool emotional little moment, like he

590
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.119
wasn't crying because he was scared. He was crying because

591
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:39.000
he actually got to see one. Finally, is what it was?

592
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:43.279
Goness that that is that is really really cool. So

593
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:47.440
you have these two times where you had. I mean,

594
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:52.279
the pretty intense bad things happen. What was it that

595
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:57.039
made you continue with your research. I've talked to a

596
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:00.640
lot of people that have experienced things that don't even

597
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.559
come close to what you experienced, and it made them,

598
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.680
you know, never go into the woods again. Why was

599
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:08.960
it different for you.

600
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:13.400
I didn't want to stop going. I just kind of

601
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:18.160
stopped going by myself. I was not comfortable by myself

602
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.880
nearly as much for a long time. I've gotten more

603
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:22.920
comfortable now. I still have it in the back of

604
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.480
my head. It does something to you, like you see

605
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.680
something do something like that, you realize a gun is

606
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.720
not stopping that thing. Nothing's stopping that thing. It just

607
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.279
pushed over a tree that was fifty foot tall, you know,

608
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.000
like the strongest in the footprints I saw, and how

609
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.440
much that thing weighed, like to make that impression in

610
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.680
the ground. That thing's eight hundred to one thousand pounds.

611
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.400
Like you're not stopping it, you know. And but I

612
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:56.920
still I am. I believe that I messed up, like

613
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.640
I said, the way I was handling it, and I

614
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:03.200
was scared, yes, but I'm so curious and I can't stop.

615
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:07.160
I can't stop it. I'm so I'm in so deep

616
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.880
on it now and it's it's almost fun to be

617
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.319
scared a little. But I don't want to be I

618
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.720
don't want to have those type of experiences again. But

619
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.599
I've gone in and that's after that. Shortly after that's

620
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:21.359
when I met Stacy was the next one. I met

621
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.960
Stacy Brown. He actually came to that location with me.

622
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.000
We met up and that was how I first met him,

623
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.839
and we went out together meet him and his camera

624
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.720
crew and we did a side by side comparison of

625
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.160
I have a picture. I have a blurry photo from

626
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:41.160
something that was nine foot tall we estimated and perfect

627
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:42.640
size the shit be able to take a tree over.

628
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.839
But the picture it's it looked to me, it looks

629
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:48.000
like a Harry and Harry from Harry and Henderson's looking

630
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:50.839
sideways and he was turning to go back around the

631
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:52.799
tree right where I was at, where that betting area was,

632
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:55.799
And like I said, it's blurry, but you can see it,

633
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.200
and the video you can see him. You can see

634
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.559
him come out. It slowed down so but you can

635
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.079
see him come out bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger. And then

636
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.920
as I come back, he goes back and disappears behind

637
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.920
a tree. It was like that quick. My dog never

638
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:10.839
picked up on There were so many smells going on

639
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:13.240
that she didn't pick up on it. Oh, by the way,

640
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.480
my dog after that day wouldn't go down a trail

641
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.000
ever again that she smelt them on, never again, And

642
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:20.960
she smelt that smell that she had picked up on.

643
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.200
After that day, she stopped at the trail and would

644
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.759
not go forward. They ruined her. She would never go

645
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:26.359
in there again.

646
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:33.400
My goodness, is that video on a YouTube channel that

647
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:34.960
people can see at all?

648
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:39.839
Or I'm going to be posting them? I said, I really,

649
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:42.039
I'm just really starting to get my YouTube channel going,

650
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:44.920
and I'm going back to all my old videos and

651
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:48.400
old things. You know, first starting out, you know how

652
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:52.200
people are Trolls are ridiculous and they ridicule you. And

653
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.039
that's what I went through when I first started, like, oh,

654
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.000
I'm like I'm seeing everything, why can't you see it?

655
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:59.559
And I just learned that not everybody is gonna see

656
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.319
what you see, and you're not going to change someone's

657
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:04.960
point of view the way they think, and they're not

658
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.079
open minded. They're not open minded. I don't I no

659
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.599
longer even play those games anymore. I'm like, you know what,

660
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.280
I know what I saw, you saw you you don't

661
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:17.480
believe it. That's fine, that's okay, And but I'm starting

662
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.239
to get it more on my channel. My my YouTube

663
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.800
channel is squatch an fl and I'm going to be

664
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.280
building that up and I'm going to be putting more

665
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:30.280
of my old videos together and putting them out there

666
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.239
for people to see again now that I have my own,

667
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:34.719
my own place to do it and let people make

668
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:35.920
their own decision on what they see.

669
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:39.440
You know, we'll have I'll put the link to your

670
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:45.760
your channel in the show notes as well. So then

671
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.239
after you have these experiences, though, it sounded like you

672
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:54.400
started to have some that were definitely a better experience

673
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.719
after you started changing some things about how you were

674
00:34:57.760 --> 00:34:58.320
approaching it.

675
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:05.239
Yeah, I found an area another part of that same

676
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:06.960
preserve that I grew up on, but the other side

677
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.440
of it. And I don't know how I swear. I

678
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:13.400
had a dream. And you know they say these things

679
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.000
can get in your head, and I never would have

680
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.519
believed that. I never would have believed it. But the

681
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:20.480
more I was going out, the more I was having

682
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.000
these weird, vivid dreams all the time, and one of

683
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.239
the dreams, ironically enough, led me to this spot and

684
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.119
I dreamt about it, so I can't explain it, but

685
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.880
I went there and it was from the moment I

686
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.679
got there, I started having weird things always happening, but

687
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.039
they were never bad. I never had a bad feeling.

688
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.719
And ever since I got hit with that that whatever

689
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:44.719
they hit me with then, my ears felt bad. I'm

690
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.840
sensitive to it now, like a freaking beacon. Like I

691
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:50.440
walk into an area now and I'm like, pepepe peep peep.

692
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:52.599
I'm like, I can feel it. Whatever they're kicking out,

693
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.320
whatever that is, whether it be a frequency or whatever,

694
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:59.519
I feel like it's a defense mechanism they have. They

695
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:01.440
can somehow I'll hit you with a frequency. You know

696
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:04.280
that that messes you up. I think they can use

697
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.480
it the hunt with too. But whatever it is, I

698
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.519
pick up Martin now, I don't have answers for it,

699
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:12.039
and I've been called I've been crazy for it. But

700
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.960
whatever happened that day, it changed me for life. And

701
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.320
I walk into the woods and I'm like, pepep peep,

702
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:19.920
I feel like I got it, Like they got a

703
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:21.880
marker on them. Like I can tell you they're there,

704
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.400
I can feel it. I feel the pressure, I feel

705
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:26.360
whatever it is, and it's usually right.

706
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:31.199
That is extremely interesting what you just said, because it

707
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.000
actually just came up in another interview I did today

708
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.760
and it's something I've experienced too. So you're saying that

709
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:43.719
the pressure kind of changes when you're in the area. Yeah,

710
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.159
can you go is it pressure in your ears? Can

711
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:52.039
you go into that anymore? Explaining what you're experiencing.

712
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:55.599
When you walk in. When you walk in, it's like

713
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:58.760
when you're getting close to when one of them are

714
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.360
at it's almost like somebody put their fingers in your

715
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:05.119
ear and like putting pressure on it. It's like pressure

716
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.599
just took this weird pressure in your ear. I used

717
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.519
to never I'd never gotten that before, Like almost like

718
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.119
when you're on an airplane and right before years pop.

719
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:16.960
It's almost like that. It's just almost like a low

720
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.440
pressure you feel, and it's like and that pressure comes

721
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:24.239
with the anxiety feeling you start getting like like something's there,

722
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.440
you know, and then it's like it all starts making

723
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.480
sense and it's like I get it every time I'm

724
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:33.320
around them now. And but what's weird though, is this

725
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:38.039
area this area it would do it at first, but

726
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:40.639
the more I went in there, it stopped, and I

727
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:43.559
realized that whatever was in there was accepting me more

728
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:49.480
and more. I went through a bad separation, and I

729
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:51.079
went through it was I want to say it was

730
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.119
a bad separation. It was just a bad time of life.

731
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:57.079
Like I went, I got very depressed, very down. So

732
00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:59.639
I use that as my escape. I would go into

733
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.000
the woods. Have to work every day, and I spent

734
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:04.920
for two years. I was going into this area all

735
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.440
like three four times a week. I'd go into this

736
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.599
area and just walk around, and I found half my

737
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:15.400
footprints came from this area, and I would walk in.

738
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:16.920
It got to the point where I would walk in.

739
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:19.360
This is the first area I started gifting too, but

740
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.039
I was I would walk in the trail. There's two

741
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.519
trails to get into the woods back there, and it

742
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:28.320
was behind county property. That was a fence line that

743
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.920
went down and nobody went back there because of that.

744
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:33.199
And I found one way you could go in without

745
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:35.719
getting in trouble for it. And I talked to a

746
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:37.360
county worker and he said, yeah, as long as you're

747
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:39.440
not in the property, you're fine. As long as you're

748
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.440
going back to that preserve. I was like, okay, so

749
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:43.440
I'd gone in there forever and it ended up being

750
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.800
this is the area that if Marie ever talked about

751
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:49.960
our active area, it's this one. Okay, this is our

752
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:53.039
active this is our active gifting area that we've had

753
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:55.239
all of our crazy stuff happen. We've gone in there

754
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:59.079
for years, and this family group is It started with me,

755
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.679
and then I brought more just Marie, and then when

756
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:05.079
me and Marie became friends, and then we've grown people

757
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:06.559
in there, and there's a group of us that go

758
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.000
in and throughout the years and we've never had anything wrong.

759
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.039
We've been in there at night. We've never had any

760
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.079
of us have a problem back there ever. But we've

761
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:17.159
had so much interaction with him, taking things, moving things,

762
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:21.440
opening candy, finding some like I've I had two gifting spots.

763
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:23.280
I'd go to one and there'd be gifts stuff that

764
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:25.039
I left at this gifting spot where I find it.

765
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.880
The other one, the rappers like I would go walking

766
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.199
in and on the two trails, there'd be no footprints

767
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:33.920
walking in. As I go to leave, I'd find five

768
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.559
or six that followed behind me walking in, no footprints

769
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.440
that they're following me as I came in, like, oh,

770
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.119
he's here, Like it was weird, man, like it was.

771
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.679
They got to the point where I could be about

772
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.880
seventy five yards away and I would see tree peakers

773
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.960
just a little and that's all you get. That's all

774
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:56.519
you get. But they were just comfortable enough to where

775
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:58.920
ast stuff like that was happening, and they got like

776
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:00.559
that with all of us, Like it was, it was

777
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:01.239
pretty awesome.

778
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:08.199
Oh wow that I'm remembering as you're talking talking to

779
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:11.639
Marie about that area, and I think, was there something

780
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:16.800
to do with, like you plush animals or stuffed animals

781
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.280
something like that as part of the gift of the process.

782
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.039
Yep, the little bear. She We put the little bear there.

783
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.840
We had glass eyes, and we came back the first

784
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:28.440
time and it was face down in the mud with

785
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.280
the tag ripped off, and we're like, that's weird. So

786
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:34.920
every time we set this bear up, they would put

787
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:36.840
it down face down, like they didn't want to look

788
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.039
at his eyes or something like, every time they'd face

789
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:42.480
it down. Maybe it was so weird. We put up

790
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:45.400
cameras out there and on left and the right side,

791
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.639
on the two trails. Everything stopped for three months all activity,

792
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.039
and I'm like, Marie, we gotta take these cameras out,

793
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:57.000
so that's what's doing it. And then one day stuff

794
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.000
started happening again, even when the camera's up, and I'm like,

795
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:02.119
all right, we checked the cameras, nothing on them. We

796
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:06.480
found the fence in the middle behind the gifting spot

797
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.559
bent to the ground. They had ripped up the barbed wire,

798
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:13.280
stretched it up, bent the It looked like something said

799
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:16.000
on it, like this huge dent. They bent all the

800
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.880
barbed wire down and up out of the way, and

801
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:22.119
they made a passageway through the fence between the two

802
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.360
game cameras back to the gifting spot so they wouldn't

803
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:30.400
be seen on camera, Like, are you kidding me? It

804
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:34.679
was freaking cool. I found I found trip wire back there.

805
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:36.760
That was one of the coolest things I've ever found.

806
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.960
They took a vine that was about an inch and

807
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.000
a half around. So if you have a fence, you

808
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.000
know picture of the fences like this, the trail goes

809
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:50.000
down the fence on this trail over here. I always

810
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.440
called it the obstacle course because it was trees all leaning,

811
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:54.920
all kind of funny all the way down the whole

812
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:57.239
fence line and I thought it was to keep people out.

813
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:01.119
Now I realized that was for hunting. And what they

814
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:05.760
would do is that trail over here if a deer

815
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.599
and okay, so you got your points right here, that's

816
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:10.920
the fence line, and the trails run down this fence

817
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.519
and on this fence. The trip wire was right here

818
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.000
at an angle. So if you're a squash stander right

819
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:18.440
here and they're running a deer this way, he only

820
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.639
has one way to go right into the tripwire. The

821
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:22.480
tripwire was like two and a half three feet off

822
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.119
the ground, perfect deer height. It was a vine and

823
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:28.760
they stretched it out about I don't know, thirty foot long.

824
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.800
It went around a tree, around another tree. It had

825
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.280
a piece of wood about this big in it and

826
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:38.440
twisted to hold the tension. It was a freaking trip wire.

827
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:44.360
It was amazing. I couldn't believe it.

828
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.239
That's a really I don't think I've heard anything that

829
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:52.559
comes close to that. I mean, what a great example

830
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:56.480
of intelligence. Do you guys have any ideas of how

831
00:42:56.519 --> 00:43:00.719
many or are in that area you've got like a

832
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:03.159
certain sized group or anything like that.

833
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.239
Well, I found seven different sized footprints in that area.

834
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:12.480
This guy right here, he's the one that follows me

835
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:20.280
around all the time. Oh, these are his I think

836
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:25.320
he's a teenage male. Okay, wow, So I left. I

837
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:28.079
made this footprint. I came, I left it, I came

838
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:30.840
to go. I made a casting of it, and I

839
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:32.360
had to leave it. It was just about dark and

840
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:34.280
it wasn't dry yet, so I left it and came

841
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.480
back the next morning to check on it. About a

842
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:42.000
foot away from it was this one. Okay, he walked

843
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.880
over and stood over it. He walked over it and

844
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.639
stood over it. And that's why there's toes, I think,

845
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:51.559
because he sat there longer, standing in this muddy area,

846
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.159
looking like, what the heck is up with this human?

847
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:56.559
And what is he making with my footprint? You know?

848
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:01.000
And then that one was there, so there's a matching set.

849
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:02.440
Well actually, so like this.

850
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:06.800
That's cool?

851
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:11.199
Yeah, And that this this footprint right here I found

852
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:13.519
everywhere back there. I called him big toe because he

853
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.159
never left any any other toe prints, just a big toe.

854
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:18.800
I don't know if he's injured or if he lifts

855
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.360
him like that, you know, but he only left his

856
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:23.360
big toe. It's really odd.

857
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.760
And and what's the what's the length of those again?

858
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:33.760
Those are thirteen, but they're not they're not super long,

859
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:42.039
but they're wide, super wide. Now this one's cool. This

860
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:46.360
one has a big one. This one is I think

861
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.239
it was seventeen. But if you look inside of it,

862
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:53.719
there's a double step. There's one walking inside of it

863
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.360
in which we find all over the place. So this

864
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:59.800
one's missing the toes up here. A lot of times

865
00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:03.159
we get like, we'll get the like, we'll get the

866
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:05.960
pad right to here, and we all get the toes.

867
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.760
A lot of times they were missing listen, so it's

868
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.400
hard to determine if it's a boot or if it's

869
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:12.760
you know, almost as like a bootprint, but it's not.

870
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:18.400
But this one's basically missing the toes up here. But

871
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:20.079
you can see where another one stepped in it. Also,

872
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:23.000
it's pretty pretty cool print. And I've got two of

873
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:26.559
these also, almost all uh matching sets you know, from

874
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.440
that area, and it was found seven through one crossing area,

875
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:31.480
seven different sizes. I found them all the way down

876
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.800
to six or seven inches, little tiny ones.

877
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.760
That's fantastic. I know you mentioned learning a lot from

878
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:43.400
doctor Meldrum earlier in the interview. Is that a thing

879
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:49.519
where you were ever able to get his thoughts on

880
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.119
on any of the tracks that that you had been

881
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:53.039
able to cast.

882
00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:01.280
Yeah. So the first person I ever called was doctor Meldrum. Like,

883
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:03.159
I didn't know who he was. I just seen him

884
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.400
on the documentaries. I didn't know anything. I just I

885
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.079
was blowing up in my brain. I wanted to talk

886
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:10.719
to somebody, so I literally called Idaho State University and

887
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:14.079
Anthropology department and he answered, and he talked to me.

888
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:16.199
He talked to a guy. He had no idea who

889
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:18.880
he was, and he talked to me for forty five minutes,

890
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.119
telling me what to do, how to do it, This

891
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.960
stupid hick from Florida. And he's telling me how to

892
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.760
do it because you know how proper he talks, and like,

893
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:29.880
I felt so dumb talking to him. But he taught

894
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.159
me so much. And he was like, listen, I believe

895
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.280
you're having things going, You're finding things. He's like, just

896
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.440
start recording it properly. Always give me a size comparison,

897
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:39.800
and you can send him and share him with me

898
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:42.119
anytime you want. So that's why I started doing and

899
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.559
ideveloped a little relationship. I'd never met him at the time,

900
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.599
but I would, you know, just through messenger mostly and

901
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:50.599
then I got Scanaverse, and I would start sending him

902
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.559
stuff with Scanaverse over and he would and he would

903
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.880
be like, oh, it's got potential. If he said it's

904
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:58.159
got potential, I knew it was a good one. But

905
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:00.599
we did get to meet him one time, which was

906
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:03.440
it kind of changed everything. We got to meet him

907
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:07.079
in at the Great Florida big Foot Conference a few

908
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.840
years ago, and he brought he came over. He came

909
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:11.800
over to our table and he's looking at our cast

910
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:17.000
and he's like, he's like, these are from Florida. I said, yes, sir.

911
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:20.159
He's like he was hold on and he walks over

912
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:25.239
to his booth and he came back with this. He

913
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:30.159
comes back over with the gray Harbor. Oh yeah, And

914
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:33.079
I'm like, okay, where's this going, you know? And he

915
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.719
put it up to our cast and he was like

916
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:45.280
showing how similar the heels and a lot of the

917
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:48.079
other stuff and all my about three casts that are

918
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:51.719
like very similar in size comparison to the heel. You know,

919
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.039
they're not this is what you get in Florida substrate.

920
00:47:55.719 --> 00:48:03.400
But there's one, this one is I did a three

921
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:07.679
D scan of this one and it is almost identical

922
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:11.559
to that print. Wow, you can see the big toepad.

923
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:13.360
It's kind of a weird print. We got this ad

924
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.360
a sugar sand. But you can see the big toepad

925
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:19.480
up here. Yeah, it's kind of hard to see, but

926
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.920
it's the same size as that tope and everything on

927
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.079
it is almost exactly the same, just a lot uglier.

928
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:32.840
Looking because of the because of the ground it was casting.

929
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:39.639
Right, this was at a sugar sand. So he he

930
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:41.920
came over and like he's like, here, you know, you

931
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:45.320
can take this, and because because he was surprised and

932
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:47.679
how he didn't think they were that big in Florida either,

933
00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:51.880
So that was like proof to him that these things

934
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:56.199
aren't changing how big they are throughout the country. That

935
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:58.960
I think they change. How much they weigh. I think

936
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:03.000
that changes, because I mean, you can't be as heavy

937
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:05.480
masked as you are up north. You don't need it here,

938
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.679
you know, I don't think it. I don't think they're

939
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:11.599
muscle structure changes. I don't think their height changes. I

940
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:16.119
think they're just more like lean, you know, personally, that's

941
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:16.639
what we think.

942
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:22.440
Absolutely. The scan a verse app is something that comes

943
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.880
up every once in a while, and I've heard it

944
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:30.239
when I've talked to Cliff, he will recommend it as well.

945
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.440
It sounds like you've used it more than a few times.

946
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:37.239
Do you have any advice as of you know, things

947
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.039
you need to make sure that you do in order

948
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.880
to get a good three D scan using that.

949
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.519
It's not gonna you can get a scan without service,

950
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:51.880
but it's not. So you can still get your scan

951
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.000
without service, but you're gonna have to wait till you

952
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:56.440
get service to process it and make it work. So

953
00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:58.840
it'll just kind of stay there and you can come back.

954
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:00.679
So don't don't think just bec you don't have service,

955
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.280
you can't use it, because you can, but you can

956
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:04.639
get it. You'll just kind of stay there till you

957
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.480
have service, and then then you can process it and

958
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:10.480
go through it. And it works better in low and

959
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:15.400
not direct sunlight, like if you have bright bright light

960
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.599
on a print, it doesn't pick it up that good.

961
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.719
It's almost better. And like sunlight with shade, like a

962
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:24.119
like a shade like a shadowy area. So if you

963
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:26.599
can have someone kind of cast a shadow block the

964
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:30.280
sun into your skin and take your time, take your

965
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.480
time with it, and roll it, just roll them. That's

966
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:35.639
what I just kind of go. I roll them as

967
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.559
I go, and it gets it all the way through,

968
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:38.840
you know.

969
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.719
Oh, so you're not just holding it flat above. You're

970
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:46.679
making sure that you get all the front corners and

971
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:48.159
the edges and the difference.

972
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:51.119
I go down, I go down into the toes, right,

973
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:53.400
I roll it down into the toes and roll it

974
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.440
out and just like you were, following the every contour

975
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.559
of the foot. It's pretty much how I do it.

976
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.559
That's really good to know. Yeah, I had never thought

977
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:06.280
of that aspect of it. That's that's something for me

978
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:09.440
to learn and try next time I go out there.

979
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:15.639
But my goodness, so really, I mean this this one area.

980
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:19.239
I already know that it is a super active area

981
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.880
from talking to Marie a few times. Were you also

982
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:28.159
with Marie when she went out to the Pacific Northwest?

983
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:31.280
Yes? Yeah.

984
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:37.440
Do you have any any things that you remember from

985
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:42.039
that trip, any interesting memories or things that you experienced

986
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:43.599
by going out there?

987
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:48.599
Oh? Yeah, oh yeah. It was. It was a different world,

988
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.239
that's for sure. You took a bunch of Florida people

989
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.440
and David Sheeley went with us. May had all these

990
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:58.719
you know, you got me and David going out to

991
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.880
the middle of the Pacific north West. We were lost.

992
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:03.320
We were like where are we at? You know, like

993
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.360
and it was cool though it was such an adventure.

994
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:09.400
Christina came also. She was kind of just getting in

995
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:10.960
I don't think she was part of the group yet.

996
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.280
She was just my girlfriend at the time, and but

997
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.840
Marine and all them new her very well, and shortly

998
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:19.840
after I think she became part of the group. But

999
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:24.519
we had a blast up there, but we blew everybody

1000
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:28.239
away away up there, Like William Beeson, like he was like,

1001
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.920
like we went out and like the first day he

1002
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.840
couldn't go with us. They gave us a jeep to use.

1003
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:36.719
So we go out, you know, and we we're from Florida,

1004
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:41.039
you know, we're ain't scared of nothing. So I'm walking

1005
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:43.039
around with just a bowie knife like I do in

1006
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.920
the woods here, and we go up and we find

1007
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:48.320
bear prints and we find all kinds of stuff. But

1008
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:50.840
we actually found a footprint too. We found a really

1009
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.239
really nice footprint. David found it, and then we found

1010
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.880
more later. But David found a really nice seventeen his

1011
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:58.639
footprint going up the side of the mountain. You could

1012
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.639
see the way it's the way it's the ball of

1013
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:04.440
its foot had like a big bunyon and when it

1014
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.719
when it moved to go up the hill, it twisted

1015
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:10.559
and you can see it. It's so clear how it

1016
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:12.280
went up. It was a really cool print.

1017
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:16.840
Was that over north of Spokan or was that Olympic

1018
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:20.280
Peninsula Medaling Falls?

1019
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:20.559
Yeah?

1020
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:22.639
Okay, so north of Spokane, Okay.

1021
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:26.639
By the cold Coldville, Coldville Forest, I believe yep up

1022
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:29.719
up in the Coldville Forest area. Well, we were walking

1023
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:32.880
around that whole day by ourself, and then William Beeson

1024
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:34.119
came out with us the next day. He wanted to

1025
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:36.119
take us up to this up the mountain, to this

1026
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.360
private or this hidden lake that's up there where they've

1027
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:40.559
had a lot of stuff happen. And so we get

1028
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:42.599
up there and we get out of the jeep and

1029
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:44.880
he gets out and he goes to the back and

1030
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:47.760
he grabs on his hip. He's got like a fifty

1031
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.440
cow on his hip. Then he grabs a freaking ar

1032
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.840
puts it. I'm like, holy cow, going on, William, He's

1033
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:58.239
like our bill. He's like he's like Mike, we have

1034
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.159
two hundred pounds wolves, we have thousand pound grizzlies. And

1035
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:04.119
I'm like what I was like, you just let me

1036
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:12.400
walk around this whole place yesterday with a knife. Holy cow, dude.

1037
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.519
So that was it was pretty funny. He is an

1038
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:20.039
awesome guy. They were, they were. That was a phenomenal trip.

1039
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.480
We got to meet Thomas Seawood over in this uh

1040
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.559
place where he was staying, and we got to sign

1041
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:27.719
the foot Oh.

1042
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:34.400
Yep, exactly. Now, you had said earlier that you actually

1043
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:38.280
learned some interesting things from from Tom when you were

1044
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:40.840
talking to him. Is that anything. Are you able to

1045
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:43.400
share any of the things that he taught you?

1046
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:47.199
Yeah, No, it's just he just he's he's funny. He

1047
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:50.760
cracks me up, man, Like he's so forward. He's like

1048
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:56.000
silly white man. It just cracks me up. And he's

1049
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:58.079
like the things he said to have made sense. He's like,

1050
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.280
how would you feel if someone just came into your backyard,

1051
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:05.039
opened up your back door to your house, came in

1052
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.000
and sat down on your couch while you were sitting

1053
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:12.360
there watching TV? Would you be pissed? And I'm like, yeah,

1054
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:16.679
I would absolutely. He told respect him, he said, respect him,

1055
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:20.000
Show them respect, and you'll get respect back. And I

1056
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:22.679
started doing that. So every time I walk into the forest.

1057
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:25.639
Now that that same area or a gifting area. I

1058
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.199
learned their sounds. I learned a lot of sounds from

1059
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.239
that area, and by myself spending time out there, I

1060
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:34.000
learned a lot of different sounds. And I never got

1061
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:36.239
scared out there. That was an area I never felt

1062
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.000
any type of fear when I was there by myself,

1063
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.239
but I would hear so I started noticing when I

1064
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:46.880
first started going in there, you would hear the bard

1065
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:51.639
owt call. Well, it'd be no matter what time of

1066
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.920
day you went, you'd hear, and then you'd hear it

1067
00:55:54.920 --> 00:56:00.199
two more times in the distance, and another side they

1068
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:05.360
do it twice every time twice, And it wasn't bard ouse,

1069
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:08.000
it was them that's there there. They mimic them, and

1070
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:10.599
they're that's they're they're they're letting you know someone's here,

1071
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:15.079
someone's here, someone's here. And then you'd be out in

1072
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:19.119
the forest, you're walking around, and I started hearing just

1073
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:22.320
one and you'd hear another one out in the distance,

1074
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:27.559
and then another one, Like they're just little subtle things,

1075
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:30.440
but they're communicating, they're letting you know where they're at.

1076
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:34.719
And then I've never I've heard tree knocks, and I've

1077
00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:38.599
heard some things but I have. I haven't experienced it

1078
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:40.360
probably as much as some people have. I mean, I've

1079
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:43.760
heard tree knocks, but I'm kind of on the on

1080
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:45.960
the same way Thomas told me. He's like, tree knocks

1081
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:49.079
are to tell you to leave. So all these people

1082
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:51.800
running around doing tree knocks, banging trees and stuff, I

1083
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:54.840
don't personally go into that. I never really did. I

1084
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:56.880
did a little bit, but after talking to Thomas, I

1085
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:00.679
really stopped doing it. And he said, that's that's them

1086
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.559
telling you, whack, get out of my area. Whack, you know, like,

1087
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.199
and it kind of makes sense when you walk into

1088
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:10.760
a place. And I kind of go by that a

1089
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:13.079
little bit. Now I don't. I don't really whack trees,

1090
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:17.719
but I do make my sound, and that's my sound,

1091
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.599
copying what they do. But now they know that's my sound,

1092
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:25.119
and everywhere I've gone into, I've established that sound. When

1093
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:26.440
I come into the I go into going to a

1094
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:30.119
new area, I'm just oooh, you know. And I and

1095
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:32.440
I have I don't have any issues. I talk to

1096
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:34.440
them when I'm in the woods. Now I'm like, hey, guys,

1097
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.159
I'm here with my family or I'm here with a friend.

1098
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:39.000
I want to come into your forest. We're not here

1099
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.400
to hurt you. I'm not a hunter. You know. I

1100
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:44.639
talk everywhere I go now, and believe it or not,

1101
00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:48.960
I mean it completely makes that if you go into

1102
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:51.119
an area and you start feeling that pressure like oh

1103
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:53.480
my god, like like something's close to me. I'm getting

1104
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:55.320
a little nervous. I'm starting to get kind of scared

1105
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.639
that feeling. Start talking to them, Hey, I'm not here

1106
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:00.920
to hurt you. I'm not I'm not a I'm sorry.

1107
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:02.880
You know. Is it okay if we come forward? Is

1108
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:06.400
it okay? If it's not, let me know, make a sound,

1109
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:11.119
do something. And usually you feel that calm down and

1110
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:14.159
you're like, oh, I don't feel threatened anymore, and like

1111
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:16.480
that threatening feeling just goes away. It's kind of incredible.

1112
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.159
Wow, that is it, and that is wild man. Oh

1113
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:22.559
my goodness. Have you ever asked for a response and

1114
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:23.480
gotten something?

1115
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:30.679
I've I wouldn't say I've asked for it and got it.

1116
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:32.480
I've done it. I would love to get to that.

1117
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:36.039
I've asked, hey, can we see you? But I've had

1118
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:38.119
a lot of things. I've had a lot of responses

1119
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:41.000
to my sounds, but I haven't had a response to

1120
00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:43.559
that I haven't had like direct take can I can

1121
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:45.480
you make a sound and they make a sound, you know,

1122
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:48.440
but like my son will go out there and if

1123
00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:50.840
he's out like, they love him and he'll go out

1124
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.719
and they'll like on one time he got scared because

1125
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:55.360
they came in so close to him. They wanted to

1126
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:57.679
come see him. I think the little ones did. He

1127
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:00.440
was out there, who oh, and then you hear for

1128
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:03.360
thirty minutes this went on and they get one came

1129
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:07.719
up and it hooed about I don't know, maybe thirty

1130
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.679
feet away from us, and he started crying, all right, dad,

1131
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:13.599
I want to go. I want to go. But it wasn't.

1132
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:15.159
I was like, well, you're out here making sounds. It

1133
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:16.599
wanted to see what was going on. You know.

1134
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:25.760
That's fat It is absolutely fascinating how how young young

1135
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:32.000
children can play into or almost really attract bigfoot activity.

1136
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:34.960
And that's a that's a whole discussion in itself, but

1137
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:38.440
we're kind of talking about that before the episode started.

1138
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:42.800
And do you mind talking a bit about the the

1139
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:48.119
Legend Seekers Florida series that is starting to be not

1140
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:51.480
a development Yeah.

1141
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.800
Yeah, no, not at all. So I'm a big believer

1142
00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:59.400
RPG is a big believer Daniel Barnett. We're a big

1143
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:02.880
believer that there's something with being on the spectrum. Absolutely

1144
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:08.480
that is being a narrow divergent person. I'm extremely ADHD

1145
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:11.760
and my superpower is I can go in and tell you

1146
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:14.559
who the bad guy is in the room. I feel everything.

1147
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:18.519
I'm you know, I'm empathetic, but I feel everything like

1148
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:21.960
I can tell you when something's going on. I'm super

1149
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:25.800
aware of everything. My son's like that, he's ADHD really bad,

1150
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:29.480
and he's selected mutism. So Kaylin, just like Daniel Barnett

1151
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:32.800
selected mutism. And what that is is they didn't speak

1152
01:00:33.239 --> 01:00:35.679
to They had selective people their brain would let them

1153
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:37.800
talk to. It's a legit deal and it's part of

1154
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:41.840
the autism scale. And my son he didn't talk till

1155
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:44.599
he was three and a half years old. And this

1156
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:46.639
is what's really awesome because if you see our videos

1157
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.039
together now and you hear him talking, and he got

1158
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:50.960
on stage with me now in front of two thousand people,

1159
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:54.400
I'll getting in a minute. But like, this kid literally

1160
01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:58.400
had such a hard start. He three and a half

1161
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.199
years old. Before he started talking, he would only hum

1162
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:05.000
like I love you. He'd go hmmmmmmmm mm hmm. He

1163
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:08.000
would only hum stuff, and so that was the first

1164
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:10.840
hurdle he got past that. He started talking, but his

1165
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:14.199
motor skills were ninety eight percentile. He was walking at

1166
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:16.480
eight months old, he was running at nine months, but

1167
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:17.880
he didn't talk till he was three and a half

1168
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:20.000
years old. Doctor said he maybe he just didn't want to.

1169
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:26.000
And so fast forward a little bit. When he started talking.

1170
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:28.400
Then it was only to me and mom, and we

1171
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.679
didn't think anything of it at first, but it got

1172
01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:34.800
as he got older, like he started school, and it continued,

1173
01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:36.480
like he would not talk to a teacher. He didn't

1174
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:38.679
talk to a teacher until he was in fourth grade

1175
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:42.400
almost wow. Didn't talk, so and kids would. Kids would

1176
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:43.840
mess with him and pick on him, and they knew

1177
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:45.760
that he wouldn't say anything, so we would have to

1178
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:47.599
get fun. He got in fights with kids because he

1179
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:50.559
would he would lash out instead of instead of because

1180
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:52.519
he didn't talk, he couldn't tell a teacher that they

1181
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.400
were being mean. He'd just eventually had enough. And but

1182
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:58.960
we'd find him underneath desk, hiding underneath tables, crying and hiding,

1183
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.519
and he didn't know how to communicate. He didn't talk.

1184
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:04.320
He would only talk to us the coach when he

1185
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:06.519
played football, he would only talk to us. Same thing

1186
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.880
with Daniel Barnett, where if you talk to his dad,

1187
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:13.000
and that's what he went through. And we joke and

1188
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:18.239
we say that Sasquatch Bigfoot, they healed them because they

1189
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:20.079
both had their lives changed by going out in the

1190
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:23.000
field doing this in the presence of these things where

1191
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.039
we have found evidence and where we've been at with

1192
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:29.159
these things, something's different with my kid. Now he's there's

1193
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.840
it's gone. There is no more selected mutism. It's gone.

1194
01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:37.800
He doesn't He's the most normal, talkative, chatty kid you've

1195
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:41.280
ever seen. And now, like we just did a you'll

1196
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:43.719
see it coming out on Friday. We just did an

1197
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:48.719
interview with Stacy Brown. We just did his show and

1198
01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:52.199
so that's Friday that's coming out. We've been on Brian

1199
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:58.840
King Sharps on Sasquatch Odyssey and together and he's awesome.

1200
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:01.719
He's his asked some questions. I'll talk to you. This

1201
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:04.159
was a kid who didn't talk. He got on stage

1202
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:05.800
with me at the conference in front of two thousand

1203
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:10.320
people and talked. So anyway, because of that, him and

1204
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:15.360
Daniel had that in common, and RPG and Daniel and

1205
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:21.159
Chris they came up with legend Seekers. And what they're

1206
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:23.800
trying to do is it's an angle of getting more

1207
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:29.239
family and oriented show in the Sasquatch Bigfoot Research and

1208
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:33.639
RPG lives only about forty five minutes for me thirty

1209
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:35.840
forty five minutes. And his children and my children are

1210
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:37.840
really good friends. They become really good friends with each other,

1211
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:40.599
and we've been going out filming with each other and

1212
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:43.559
we're gonna be doing a Legend Seekers. It's gonna be

1213
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:48.880
a docu series on YouTube. It's on the Legend Seekers

1214
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:52.920
Network and it's gonna be a Florida version that they're

1215
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:56.639
gonna do and then after each episode they do legend

1216
01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:59.280
Seekers uncut. So we just did one of those today

1217
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:04.239
and that was me, Christina and Christina's daughter Kate, because

1218
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:07.320
we had a recent experience happened I'll tell you about

1219
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:11.440
in a minute, but so we're really excited about it

1220
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:13.360
that and I mean, you know, if you've seen My

1221
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:16.559
Bigfoot Life, they're they they're they're really good with how

1222
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:18.880
they how they did it, and they want to try

1223
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:21.960
and do something with Kaylin kind of like a legend

1224
01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:24.079
seekers version of my bigfoot life too, to let the

1225
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:27.199
world know about him. It's awesome, man, Like, they're they're

1226
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:30.119
really good people. They're phenomenal people. And then and for

1227
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:31.840
them to want to do that with my son is

1228
01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:35.920
really cool, you know, and and get let's we're doing

1229
01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:39.239
this as a family and still finding things, and actually

1230
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.400
we're finding more, We're having more things happen, which is

1231
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:44.199
what I can go into now if you want me to.

1232
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:45.599
I can tell you about what just happened with me

1233
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:47.119
and my family, which is freaking awesome.

1234
01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:51.920
And yeah, I definitely want to hear about that. I

1235
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:55.400
do want to comment on on something that you said

1236
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:59.880
a few minutes ago, where it's just a weird pattern

1237
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:07.800
that comes up in interviews where people have some sort

1238
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:11.639
of interaction and they are changed in different ways. And

1239
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:15.360
you brought up how your son was changed in this way.

1240
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.760
There's also people that have been healed in different ways

1241
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:27.079
or have different abilities come out, ranging from being more

1242
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:31.480
aware of their area or even telepathy. And it's just

1243
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:37.480
it's such an interesting pattern that I'm starting to notice

1244
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:40.920
and I'm not quite sure where it all is going

1245
01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:44.239
to lead, but I would love to hear more about

1246
01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:47.599
what you guys have just experienced recently as a family.

1247
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:52.480
Yeah, and just fallo able what you said, Like, I

1248
01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:55.119
don't know one hundred percent. I don't understand it. But

1249
01:05:56.679 --> 01:06:00.599
these things really enjoy good, positive energy around them. Oh yeah,

1250
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:04.360
they pick up on I believe that they are. They're good,

1251
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:07.000
and I believe that they pick up like animals, right,

1252
01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:10.079
Like animals pick up on good people, good energy. Some

1253
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:12.119
animals they don't want to if you're not a good person,

1254
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:13.840
they don't want to be around you. And I think

1255
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:15.559
they're the same way. I think they really pick up

1256
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:17.760
on it. And when I'm in the forest with my

1257
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:20.320
family is the happiest time in my life. I'm with

1258
01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:23.719
a woman I love, I'm with my kids. They're laughing,

1259
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:26.840
having fun, we're exploring. We've turned it into this like

1260
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:31.000
giant scavenger hunt. We're trying to find footprints. And my

1261
01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:33.360
daughter is starting to pick up on it now too.

1262
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:36.639
She's seven, Kylie, and so Kaylen and Kylie, they're my kids.

1263
01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:40.360
And so Kylie's coming up behind Kaylen now and she's

1264
01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:42.840
tired of being left out and she's like, Dad, I

1265
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.360
want to go out more. And so I've been taking

1266
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:47.559
her she's the cutest thing ever. She goes in the forest,

1267
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:50.239
She's like big Foot, I love you. I'm sorry. She's

1268
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:52.719
the cutest thing. She leaves them little gifts every time

1269
01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:58.159
we go out. So I moved. Me and Christina got

1270
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:02.119
a house and we went from Pasco County up to

1271
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:09.320
Hernando County, which is close to Brooksville, Florida. And there's

1272
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:14.719
this area has like the main corridor that runs up

1273
01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:23.079
the west side of Florida from basically Wiki Watchie Area

1274
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:26.760
all the way up through the Panhandle. It's one giant corridor.

1275
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:30.119
That's where that corridor stops there and connects over to

1276
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.639
all the corridors that connect to the Green Swamp, through

1277
01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:34.840
the corridor that goes through where I was having my

1278
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:37.599
stuff happen, and all that connects into the Hillsborough River.

1279
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:40.639
It's all one big connecting circle that if you wanted

1280
01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:43.199
to you could never be seen. And it's really really

1281
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.159
cool how it works when you pay attention to it.

1282
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.760
But anyway, so now that I'm up here, i haven't

1283
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:50.320
got to go to that other area where I had

1284
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:52.719
all this crazy stuff happen. So I've been focusing over

1285
01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:55.440
here and I've been meeting other people, and I met

1286
01:07:55.719 --> 01:08:00.360
a guy named Mike Noga and he had a say

1287
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:03.960
sighting at a cemetery out here, and we started talking

1288
01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:07.119
and my friend Frank Middleton. I don't know if you

1289
01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:08.639
ever ever met Frank Middleton or not.

1290
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:11.079
Frank quite a bit, Yes.

1291
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:18.720
Yeah, Frank's awesome. Frank Frank. Yeah. And so I've got

1292
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:20.520
to go out with Frank and and Mike a couple

1293
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:25.479
of times, and we've we've went, we've we've camped out

1294
01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:27.680
in these areas together, hung out a lot, and I've

1295
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:30.399
really gotten to become good friends with Frank, and Mike's

1296
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:32.479
becoming a good friend of mine. You'll hear about Mike

1297
01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:35.840
and eventually, I promise you he's he's he's got the

1298
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:38.039
thirst for you, you know what I mean, Like, he's he's

1299
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:40.000
he's a young researcher that's really starting to have a

1300
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:43.119
lot of things happen. So we go out in this

1301
01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:45.680
area and I went into another part of the area

1302
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:47.560
away from his a little bit where I was like,

1303
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:50.239
if I'm something, this is where i'd be. And we

1304
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:52.960
started finding a lot of cool things. Let me go

1305
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:57.960
fast forward. We me and Christina and her two kids

1306
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:00.720
the other night were like let's just for a jeep ride.

1307
01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:02.239
We're bored, we had nothing to do. It was a

1308
01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:06.479
Friday night, so we take the jeep and to get

1309
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:09.000
into this area where we wanted to go trail ride.

1310
01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:13.600
You really probably aren't allowed to be there, but there's

1311
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:15.039
a trail to get in if you know how to go.

1312
01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:16.960
If you have a jeep, you can get in there.

1313
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:18.560
You couldn't get in there with a truck. But I

1314
01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:21.119
have a jeep small enough to get in, so that's

1315
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:24.840
what I did. I pulled in and came down. That's

1316
01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:28.000
like a four wheeler trail. Basically. I came in and

1317
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.359
I started to go. You got to go down the hill,

1318
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:34.159
and it's it's through an area that's been mined, like

1319
01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:36.880
they mined right through the middle of it. I don't

1320
01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:38.600
know how many years ago, on hundred years ago, I

1321
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.680
don't know. So you go start going down the road.

1322
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:45.119
There's a limestone road that goes through it. And as

1323
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:47.199
we came over the hill, we were there fifteen seconds

1324
01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:49.880
and I was not filming, and I kicked myself for this.

1325
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:53.079
It was about eight o'clock. We start going down the

1326
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:55.199
hill and you know when you your how your high

1327
01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:58.199
beams are your how your beams project ahead. If you're

1328
01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:00.560
about to go down a hill. So the hills like

1329
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:02.600
this and your jeep's coming like this, you're hitting up

1330
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:07.720
high right. Well, I got the right about here, and

1331
01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:12.039
I saw these two eyeballs this bit and that far apart,

1332
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:14.920
and it was about five foot off the ground. Bam.

1333
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:16.920
I stopped. I went oh my to everybody, and they

1334
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:19.119
all of a sudden the jeep went oh my, and

1335
01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:26.640
it's just these giant eyeballs, bright greenish yellow. Bam. And

1336
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.000
I'm like, oh my. And it went and looked this way,

1337
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:33.399
looked back, and then it stood up three foot taller,

1338
01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:36.880
and I went, oh, Mike, we're watching this thing. And

1339
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:41.279
it just goes and her her daughter goes, oh Mike.

1340
01:10:41.399 --> 01:10:44.359
And then it looked away this way, looked back again,

1341
01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:49.159
put his head down and took three funky steps and

1342
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:53.640
was in the little forest going and wow, like and

1343
01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:56.119
I hear, Kate go, Kate go, did you I said, kay,

1344
01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:58.479
did you see that? She's like his eyes were so bright,

1345
01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:00.960
and and she goes, did you see the deer? And

1346
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:02.560
I'm like, oh, I didn't even notice there were deer

1347
01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:04.720
there because I was so focused on him. She said,

1348
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:08.079
there were two deer, two smaller green green eyes behind it,

1349
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:12.319
about ten yards behind it. He was hunting, we think

1350
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:14.520
he was hunting, and he was behind this big tree.

1351
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:16.840
As we came over the hill, he was right there

1352
01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:19.560
at the tree. She crunched down because he was like

1353
01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:22.079
this looking, you know, at the deer, and he turned

1354
01:11:22.079 --> 01:11:25.239
his head like that at us, and that's when he

1355
01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:29.760
turned and then he stood up and was like, oh

1356
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:36.119
so oh. It was like it was it was so awesome,

1357
01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:38.199
Like I don't know if I have a little video

1358
01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:40.439
I put out and it's just the video of us

1359
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:44.039
being excited, like like we're so excited like a little kid.

1360
01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:48.439
I was like, I'm sorry, I blinded you. Like it was.

1361
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:52.640
It was awesome, like the whole family, Christina. Christina said

1362
01:11:52.680 --> 01:11:56.720
she looked and was like she said, she blinked like

1363
01:11:56.760 --> 01:11:58.439
a long blink and opened her eyes and it was

1364
01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:00.920
still there, Like this is real. Because she had not

1365
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:04.520
had she had not had a real encounter. She'd had

1366
01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:06.399
things following us. She's been in the woods, We've had

1367
01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:08.720
a lot of weird stuff happened. But that was there

1368
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:11.479
and it was no taking it back. You know, it

1369
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:14.880
was there and that was really cool. That's what we

1370
01:12:14.920 --> 01:12:18.439
talked about today on the Legend Seekers as we all

1371
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:22.600
three were on there talking about what just happened with that.

1372
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:24.000
That's exciting stuff.

1373
01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:29.560
It was. It was so cool. Well three days later,

1374
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:33.000
three days later, all right, my son and my daughter

1375
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:35.199
are jealous. They're so jealous that they didn't get to

1376
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:37.000
see that. And I picked them up. They had a

1377
01:12:37.079 --> 01:12:40.039
day off on Monday. There it was some holiday and

1378
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.680
last Monday it was two Mondays ago. This was just

1379
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:49.000
last week, a week before, and so that happened Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

1380
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:51.640
then Monday. I picked them up. We had just enough time.

1381
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:53.399
I'm like, all right, on the way home, let's go

1382
01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:54.800
out there. I'll take you guys out. We go drive

1383
01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:56.560
around a little bit, go check out, and we'll check

1384
01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.119
the gifting spots. And you know, I wanted to put

1385
01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:00.880
some apples out and put some different things out in

1386
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:03.920
this area and start trying to make it friendly. So

1387
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:07.880
I take him over there. We walk up to to

1388
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:10.680
where it's at where we saw him, and there's another

1389
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:13.399
little area. I went in and there's a game trail

1390
01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:16.399
back there, and I found footprints on the game trail.

1391
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:19.119
They weren't huge, they were not the ones that matched him,

1392
01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:22.000
but they were definitely footprints, and there was four of

1393
01:13:22.039 --> 01:13:23.560
them in a row. My daughter's like, oh, I see

1394
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:25.640
one too, Like, we're following this footprint. I got like

1395
01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:27.680
we did a little video. I was like, we're following

1396
01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:31.439
the footprints, you know, And I made a cast. I

1397
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:33.039
came back and made the cast. It was this one.

1398
01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:41.479
See how good the toes are? Oh wow?

1399
01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:46.359
Yeah, okay, So I made it was on a rock.

1400
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:47.840
This was a rock that it was on top of,

1401
01:13:48.199 --> 01:13:51.640
but the toes are awesome on it. And so there

1402
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:54.640
was this was the best one to get. So I

1403
01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:57.640
made that cat. Well. I called Christine. I'm like, hey,

1404
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:00.119
I don't have any plaster, but we found some footprints.

1405
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:02.840
Can you come meet us. She's like, yeah, i'll come eat.

1406
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:05.520
So she came at fifteen minutes from our house and

1407
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:07.479
she came and met me, and I made the cast

1408
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:10.159
and like, let's go for a little hike while it's

1409
01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:14.600
you know, while the cast, the plaster's drying. So now

1410
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:17.079
I'm with my son and my daughter and her and

1411
01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:19.479
we go down this little horse trail that goes back

1412
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:21.800
through these hills. And as I'm coming back, it's getting

1413
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:25.119
like thirty maybe twenty minutes before dark, and I got

1414
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:27.920
a little turned around and I missed my turn where

1415
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.279
I wanted to go. So I'm like, shoot, I'm looking

1416
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:31.920
at my GPS. I'm like, we got to go straight

1417
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:34.039
this way. We're just going to go through the woods, guys,

1418
01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:36.319
let's just do it, you know. So we went off

1419
01:14:36.439 --> 01:14:39.520
off trail straight through the woods and I ended up

1420
01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:41.079
in this little valley and went up a hill and

1421
01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:43.319
down into this little valley. And it was for Florida,

1422
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:45.720
sixty foot down into a valley is very rare. You

1423
01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:49.119
don't have stuff like that. And we're walking into this

1424
01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:55.159
valley and I just froze. Dude. It was five and

1425
01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:57.920
a half foot tall, standing on the right hand side

1426
01:14:58.039 --> 01:15:02.600
of the trail, standing there, and it took one, two,

1427
01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:06.560
three steps and went to all four and when it

1428
01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:09.680
hit it was it never missed a beat. I stopped, Oh,

1429
01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:12.680
oh my god. And he just went. He was twenty

1430
01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:16.960
yards away, at most twenty yards. He was right there,

1431
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:19.439
and he went. He was going from right to left.

1432
01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:22.399
He was over here, and he took two steps, three steps,

1433
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:23.960
and on like the It was like probably the third

1434
01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:28.039
step he went down to all fours and He wasn't

1435
01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:30.199
much taller than me, but he was twice as wide,

1436
01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:34.359
and it had the most I'll never forget this, the

1437
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:38.199
most beautiful hair I've ever seen on an animal, on

1438
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.520
a creature or anything in the wild. His hair was

1439
01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:43.439
jet black and it looked like it had been blowed,

1440
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:46.600
dried and brushed. It was perfect, like almost like a

1441
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:52.119
sheine to it. Wow, it was beautiful. And he freaking

1442
01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:56.560
my son saw it. And my son didn't see him

1443
01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:58.600
go to didn't see him go to all fours. He

1444
01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:01.119
just saw him moving because when it hit the grass,

1445
01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:04.439
it didn't stop. It was I didn't. It was so

1446
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:07.079
natural for that thing to go to all fours and

1447
01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:09.920
it was like it hit another gear and he went through,

1448
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:14.000
piling through the bushes. Christina never saw it. My daughter

1449
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:15.560
never saw it because we were in line with each

1450
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:18.079
other and it just was crossing right in front of us.

1451
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:20.159
You know, they could hear it, but they never could

1452
01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:23.520
see it. The way he was running up it. My

1453
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:26.840
son I picked him up as as as he's running off,

1454
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:29.159
and my son can see his head and his back

1455
01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:31.479
and then it goes to two legs and goes back

1456
01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:35.520
up the hill back the two legs and goes up

1457
01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:40.840
and was gone, like, oh my god, that just happened,

1458
01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:46.800
like bonowesh, like we just watched up. We just watched

1459
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:51.560
a young sasquatch go running in front of us, and like,

1460
01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:53.760
I've never seen anything move the way that thing moved.

1461
01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:56.840
I'd never seen something so well maintained and beautiful like

1462
01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:03.000
this thing was beautiful, Like I was blown away.

1463
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:06.319
My goodness, what And that just happened within the last

1464
01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:10.199
few weeks. You're saying, yeah, yes.

1465
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:13.920
We we we've had and and so that had just

1466
01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:17.199
happened a week and a half ago. Wow, that just happened.

1467
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:20.720
And it was three days apart from the eye shine,

1468
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:23.640
and about three days before that eye shine, we had

1469
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.119
another quick eye shine, Like as I was pulling down

1470
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:28.840
that same road to take you in, something walked out

1471
01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:31.800
and went back in like that. It was quick, so

1472
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:33.640
it wasn't like one hundred percent like I know, I

1473
01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:36.319
saw eyes, they were it were yellow screen. Again. I

1474
01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:38.199
was like, dude, I just saw something, but it was

1475
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:42.600
like that this was We watched it for fifteen seconds

1476
01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:45.399
doing this, you know, and then this thing crossed in

1477
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:50.319
front of us. It was like what what everybody dreams

1478
01:17:50.319 --> 01:17:55.199
to see? And I wasn't filming. Wow, I don't.

1479
01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:57.520
I mean that's yeah, that is usually what happens.

1480
01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:04.279
Yeah, yeah, I'd have since bought a body camera and

1481
01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:06.239
I've gone into that area. I actually went in there

1482
01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:08.960
yesterday and I just put some stuff up in there.

1483
01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:11.920
I put some apples in there. My secret is Recy's

1484
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:14.880
Rec's peanut butter cups. They love Recey's peanut butter cups.

1485
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:17.000
Once they get a taste for them, they want them.

1486
01:18:18.039 --> 01:18:22.239
And I can't wait to find out what's going to

1487
01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:24.000
be back in there because I feel I feel like

1488
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:24.840
we're going to see it again.

1489
01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:29.920
It would be really interesting if you figure out a

1490
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:34.199
way to do kind of how Scott Carpenter was doing,

1491
01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:38.319
how he had the camera on his back as he's

1492
01:18:38.359 --> 01:18:40.600
walking through the area and he was getting a lot

1493
01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:45.439
of interesting things. I know Harley Owens does this too,

1494
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:48.600
and it's eastern Tennessee, but I'm sure it would the

1495
01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:52.279
same thing would work in Florida and you would might

1496
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:55.479
even get some tree peakers or who knows what'll show up.

1497
01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:59.039
You know, I actually have I have quite a few.

1498
01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:01.880
I'm gonna start sharing them and you'll see them pop

1499
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:03.640
up because I'm gonna start putting all my content out

1500
01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:05.960
there again for my channel so it can be seen.

1501
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:10.119
I have a lot of blurry pictures and they're exactly

1502
01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:13.000
from doing that. But what I was doing was I

1503
01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:15.720
would be walking, and the more I would walk around,

1504
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:18.720
I would I would I started hearing things behind me,

1505
01:19:19.399 --> 01:19:22.319
you know, and I realized that every time I picked

1506
01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:26.119
my phone up and was recorded, they would start falling

1507
01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:31.319
behind me. Crunch, crunch, crunch. I'd hear little things. So

1508
01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:34.079
I realized that they don't know what this thing is

1509
01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:36.840
in my hand, but it distracts me. So that's when

1510
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:38.560
they would be moving. So what I started doing was,

1511
01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:41.960
instead of filming forward, I was filming behind me. So

1512
01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:43.880
I was holding my phone, but I was filming behind

1513
01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:47.680
me and I could actually see as I'm walking. And

1514
01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:50.720
I started the same thing. I started getting things and

1515
01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:52.760
I'd go back. And what I don't understand is how

1516
01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:54.880
can you not see something and then go back and

1517
01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:57.119
look at your video and see it later, which is

1518
01:19:57.199 --> 01:19:59.279
mind boggling to me. How can just not be there

1519
01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:00.600
and then see on a video.

1520
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:05.079
It'll also be amazing as you start to put up,

1521
01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:08.800
you know, footage you've taken on your YouTube channel and

1522
01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:10.760
the cool thing about that is, you know, you just

1523
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:13.960
throw stuff up and people will start to you know,

1524
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:16.760
it happens in mind too, where they're like, oh, did

1525
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:19.479
you notice the thing in the background at like thirty

1526
01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:21.199
minutes in, and like, oh, what are you talking about?

1527
01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:23.239
You check it out and like yes, the same thing

1528
01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:27.319
that happens is to Scott Carpenter's channels, Like you get

1529
01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:30.600
thousands of eyes on it and people start to notice things.

1530
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:35.279
It's very cool your crowdsource the investigation of the footage.

1531
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:39.560
But you know, Mike, it has been just a fantastic

1532
01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:42.920
conversation with you, and thank you so much for sharing

1533
01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:47.319
what you have experienced over the years, your growth in

1534
01:20:47.439 --> 01:20:51.520
the way that you are now an investigator. It is

1535
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:52.680
a fascinating story.

1536
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:56.439
I appreciate it, man, thank you a lot. You know,

1537
01:20:56.479 --> 01:20:59.560
it's awesome. It's been a cool ride. And getting to

1538
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:01.399
do with my family it just makes that much more,

1539
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:05.039
you know, and Mid Florida like we've become an amazing group,

1540
01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:07.840
you know, and we're that way because of our different

1541
01:21:07.880 --> 01:21:10.000
angle and we have kids, we take kids out, and

1542
01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:12.239
we have women. You got one guy, a couple of

1543
01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:14.920
guys and mostly women and we we you know, we

1544
01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.199
take groups of people out and take I've taken groups

1545
01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:20.880
of forty people into the middle of the Everglades by

1546
01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:23.560
my you know, forty people leading the way into the

1547
01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:26.920
middle of the Everglades. And we take kids camping, We do

1548
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:28.920
all we do stuff that not many people do, and

1549
01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:31.000
we don't pay for it. We just pay for what

1550
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:33.239
it costs to be at the spot, you know, and

1551
01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:36.119
we have a blast. Usually me and Christina take our kids.

1552
01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:38.199
We go our way with the kids in the group,

1553
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.119
and Marie takes the other group and she does her

1554
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.359
thing with the adults and we kind of split them

1555
01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:44.560
and we have a blast, like we have an absolute

1556
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:47.119
blast doing it. And it's you know, it's given us

1557
01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:51.039
and we're finding legit evidence while spending time with our

1558
01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:53.479
families and getting other people involved. That's what's awesome.

1559
01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:58.479
Which is such a cool combination. And I know, I

1560
01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:00.439
wish there was I wish there was more. I think

1561
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:02.920
it's great that you guys are doing that and hopefully

1562
01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:07.560
that catches on, especially with the Legend Seekers uh series

1563
01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:10.359
that that is going to be coming out. But would

1564
01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:12.640
you mind if you'd be able to take a few

1565
01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:15.600
minutes how people can you know, keep up to date

1566
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:19.359
with what you guys are doing through your organization down

1567
01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:23.479
there in Florida and maybe uh, you know, uh contact

1568
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:25.720
you if if they would like and things like that.

1569
01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:32.399
Yeah, well, my personal information is on my Facebook page,

1570
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:36.119
and my Facebook page is turned into my Squatch page.

1571
01:22:36.199 --> 01:22:39.760
It's a squatch an FL and it's under Mike Aguilar,

1572
01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:41.920
but it's I just haven't listened to squatch on FL.

1573
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:45.479
And all my contact information is on there, my email,

1574
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:51.119
my phone numbers even on there Mid Florida. We have

1575
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:53.159
all different kind of ways to find that. To contact

1576
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:56.960
us me or Marie, you know Marie Dumont or that's

1577
01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:01.119
really the two. You would contact me or her. We

1578
01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:06.800
have Mid Florida website, mid Florida Facebook page, Messenger, any

1579
01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:08.399
way you want to find it. I have a YouTube

1580
01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:11.239
channel now that i've been I'm actively trying to grow,

1581
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:16.439
and that's the same thing squatching FL and that's the

1582
01:23:16.439 --> 01:23:17.800
best way to get in touch with us. And we're

1583
01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:21.760
gonna putting a lot of stuff out I mean we

1584
01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:25.600
work hard, We work real hard. I think personally maybe

1585
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:28.800
we put more legit stuff out there than just about

1586
01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:31.079
any group or any people do. I mean we because

1587
01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:34.199
we we're out a lot and we find a lot,

1588
01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:37.279
you know, and to find a lot, you got to

1589
01:23:37.319 --> 01:23:39.520
be out a lot. And that's what we're doing. And

1590
01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:44.920
it's awesome, and you know, we love it. It's become

1591
01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:47.920
it has become our. If I'm not with Marie and

1592
01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:50.760
the group she's with, she's with with Bob or somebody

1593
01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:52.880
else and they're doing something over here in a different

1594
01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:56.479
area in Florida, me and Christina are with over here Ruby,

1595
01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:58.840
she's over here in her place. We may not all

1596
01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:02.079
be together, but we're all out almost every weekend somewhere,

1597
01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:06.279
which is incredible. Yeah, right now, right right now. I

1598
01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:09.399
live fifteen minutes away, so it's easy for me to

1599
01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:12.159
go in almost daily sometimes and just go in for

1600
01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:15.520
an hour, two hours, walk around, check out things. That's

1601
01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:17.359
what I've been doing. That's why I've been finding so much.

1602
01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:20.720
Oh my goodness, Mike, is such a cool story. We

1603
01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:25.119
will definitely be keeping up to date with what you

1604
01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:28.960
guys are getting into next and following along with the

1605
01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:32.600
channel and the organization down there. But thank you so

1606
01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:35.720
much for taking some time out of your night and

1607
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:38.239
coming on the show today. I really do appreciate it.

1608
01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:41.600
Yeah, you know, if you ever want to have another

1609
01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:44.600
conversation later check out with us. Maybe I could have

1610
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:46.159
my son come on. You'll get a kick out of

1611
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:48.840
having him. You would have a blast having him talk

1612
01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:51.239
to him. He's awesome. He's not your average little eleven

1613
01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:52.119
year old. He's awesome.

1614
01:24:52.279 --> 01:24:59.319
Absolutely. Yeah, that sounds that sounds great. Thank you so much, Mike. Yes, sir,

1615
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:04.680
have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1616
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:07.960
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

1617
01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:10.840
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1618
01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:15.399
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

1619
01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:19.000
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1620
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:24.000
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1621
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:27.640
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

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even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

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01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:34.560
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

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01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:40.039
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

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01:25:40.119 --> 01:25:46.319
heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

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01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:48.439
you just got to be there. We'll leave it that

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01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:51.279
more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

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01:25:51.359 --> 01:25:56.479
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

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01:25:56.560 --> 01:26:01.439
documentary series searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year, you can

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not only go to the festival, but you can also

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sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

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01:26:12.319 --> 01:26:16.960
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot Spots

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01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:20.920
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

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01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:24.600
up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

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01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:27.840
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

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01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:31.000
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

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01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:34.239
It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

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01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:39.319
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

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01:26:39.399 --> 01:26:43.960
dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

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01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:48.720
like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a two

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day pass for the price of a.

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One day pass.

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So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

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that you guys can you can get a little help

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01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:06.399
with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to

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01:27:06.439 --> 01:27:10.800
see you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We

1647
01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:13.119
can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to

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01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:16.640
so many people last year and the year before. It

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01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:19.560
is an incredible time. You're not going to want to

1650
01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:24.079
miss it, and I'll see you there before we wrap

1651
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:26.439
this episode, I want to say something directly to a

1652
01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:29.720
very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

1653
01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:33.479
any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

1654
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:36.359
no one can explain, or if you're a National park

1655
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:39.680
ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

1656
01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.560
or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down

1657
01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:46.119
on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a

1658
01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:50.079
federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something

1659
01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:53.800
you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

1660
01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:57.159
or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

1661
01:27:57.239 --> 01:27:59.920
tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the lock

1662
01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:04.119
industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with

1663
01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:08.039
government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never

1664
01:28:08.119 --> 01:28:12.000
told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1665
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:15.560
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1666
01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:19.319
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1667
01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:22.600
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1668
01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:27.039
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA,

1669
01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:30.840
or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1670
01:28:32.199 --> 01:28:35.640
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1671
01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:40.920
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1672
01:28:41.399 --> 01:28:43.840
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1673
01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:49.640
carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

1674
01:28:50.199 --> 01:28:54.039
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1675
01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:56.920
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

1676
01:28:57.000 --> 01:28:59.760
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger,

1677
01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:02.720
in stranger than we think, and that the truth is

1678
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:05.840
often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed

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01:29:30.279 --> 01:29:32.600
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1688
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1695
01:29:56.880 --> 01:29:59.840
again for following along with the Bigfoot Society until next time,

1696
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:02.680
Keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop

1697
01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:04.920
asking what else might be out there? And see you

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in the woods.