A Hairy Arm Reached in My Tent / Frost Gorilla of Michigan AND MORE!

0:04 Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In this episode, I talked to multiple callers during the Bigfoot Encounters live show on the Bigfoot Society YouTube channel. If you've experienced something similar to what these callers have, or have more information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptis in the same areas, please reach out immediately to me after this episode. Remember, your encounter could be the key to unlocking this mystery once and for all, so please don't hesitate to contact me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Hy is this Greg Yeah speaking? Hey, this is Jeremiah. I would love to hear what you've encountered. Well way back, I guess it's about circa nineteen seventy three summer thereof I was in a tent with my two cousins and older brother. I was about nine. I think my baby cousin was about six, and the two older boys were twelve and thirteen, respectively, and we were camping on my aunt's farms. You had a farm in Indiana, Sylvania, and that's home of the actor Jimmy Sport And the reason I bring up his name if he get in the big food lore. He's been well known in the past to have a fascination, the lifelong one of Bigfoot, because in that same area where I had my experience, and not that I knew it at the time. When he was a small boy, he used to go on hunting trips and listen to hunters.

1:19 Subscribed the experiences with Bigfoot in that area and again as part of the Chestnut Ridge, a kind of range of mountains that extend from there all the way down through Tennessee Smoky Mountains and all that. But it begins at that point, and there's been a lot of sightings apparently there over many decades, starting before Jimmy Stuartstime. But I was aware vaguely of like Planet of the Apes about nine years of age. I knew what a gorilla was from the zoo, but I never thought of one being out in that area. So we're camping one night and we're in a field about a couple hundred yards up the hill my aunt's farm. The only thing up there was like deer and I guess casional bear, but you know, we were not aware, and so the tall grass I guess about three four feet tall in the field.

2:07 We were parked our tent in front of it that night, and my father helped to set it up, and about thirty feet behind the tall grass was a thicket a woods. It was so thick, Jeremiah, you couldn't like really push through it as a person. A lot of thorn bushes and so forth is very dense. And that's important to the story because the next morning, about twenty twenty five minutes before the sun came up, I heard a rustling through that tall grass and something coming through that like tree lined of heavy brush, and I got scared, thinking who would be attempting to come through like that? And next thing, I know, at the top of our tent, it had like a zipper thing, like a mesh thing that I guess there was a little bit unzipped on that side. I see this giant hairy arm reaching in a very thick, dark flat black matted hair and just a huge, huge hand. And I just said to myself, looking up, you know, my sleeping bag, that's the large harry arm of a gorilla. What's the gorilla doing out of the zoo? Now, this is about sixty miles I guess northeast of Pittsburgh kind of the thing. So that's the nearest zoo there would have been but my baby cousin I heard him gasp.

3:20 He was about six, and all of a sudden his hand pulls back, or the hand of the eight poles back. Once that gas came out, and I guess it scared it off. But the thing we heard it rustling behind us in the tall grass and went back to that thicket of woods. We tried to wake up our brothers and putting her hands over the mouth and saying something's out there. My brother's like, oh, it's probably just a bear, and I'm thinking, like, yeah, just a bear. Even at that age, I know bear is pretty dangerous thing. But I said, well, look, bears don't have hands. So oh, another twenty thirty minutes, the sun came up and we poked our heads out of the tent and looked around nothing about. But when we did get out and in the day, like you might say, we saw a wide four foot wide path going in that tall grass, three four foot tall grass be entering back to that thicket. And none of us had ever walked in that grass.

4:13 We're too afraid of snakes, severer ticks, things like that, rats, whatever, and something that pushed that heavy brush aside. And I remember my brother got a real nervous look my thirteen year old brother, and he said, I guess whatever, it was a pretty big and then we all start running down that hill. Tell my parents, my aunt, my uncle down there what we saw. Nobody believed us. The six year old and the nine year old and the older boys couldn't vouch because they weren't quite awake when it happened. Some weeks later. I can't recall exactly when, but within that time frame of that summer, there was an elderly couple. It was reported in the local news that we're walking I guess their dog through woods nearby, and their dog got chased off by some large ape like animals.

4:59 We they described. The police at last went out thinking it was just a call. I went out on a lark kind of a call, not expecting to find anything. But they did, and they found some big footprints, and so I Antwerput from a local college was called in, made a cast and held it up on the local six o'clock news kind of thing at the end of the broadcast and said, this could be the possible footprint of a sasquatch or which otherwise is called a bigfoot. And I'll never forget my mother, Jeremiah her jaw I just dropped. She was speechless. She never believed me until that point. And then my father just turned and looked at my brother and I and said, you boys are never going camping Thwarts again.

5:41 That's my story. Great, that's incredible. I can I ask you a few questions about this? Okay? Was this the area you were camping? Was this owned by your family or this like public? No, my aunt's place I was run by my aunt. She lived about two miles off of very small road and she lived at the end of a dirt road. Basically, she had a little farm at the end, and there was like a lake or pond that was stocked with fish and lots of deer there. So that would be a possible habitat for a creature like that. Sure, yeah, did you hear anything weird during the night? Knox or No? But it's odd that because earlier in the summer when we were there, we'd spend our summers up there periodically, like a week here and maybe a week there, go up to or three times school was not in session. We were out one time, my brother and I with a local boy and girl, maybe a few miles down the road and we ran some trails there. Man had a lot of acreage and heavy woods, and there was one trail that went down to a stream where we would fish sometimes. And this is not too far away from Punks of Tawny where Groundhog is in that general area.

6:54 And the point is that we came back from fishing one time and the older two brothers, her brother and my brother took off down the trail ahead of us. So the younger girl and I, we were about eight nine years old at that point. We're coming back up the trail, probably not long, and we thought that and again this is before the tent. What happened in the tent. We thought that there was somebody following us, but it was like to their tour left, as I recall, like through the trees, maybe fifty sixty feet or more. We kept thinking like every time we'd stop something weird hear it would stop, and then we would go, and then it would go, and then we'd try to stop, and we started playing a game with it, the girl and I, and we would like run ten feet and stop and then see if we can catch it sure enough, like you'd hear an extra footstep like the thing got got off guard and when we looked it was heavy pines everywhere we could make out a form hiding behind a tree. We thought it might have been one of the local Amish kids playing with us, But the Armish weren't really allowed to be on other people's property without permission, so we found that odd. We told them my answer, well, I'll have to call local families and say their boys or my property to thing without permission. But looking back on it now and hearing about how Bigfoot's parallel and all that, and I'm thinking there might have been a big Foot instead. Oh. Absolutely. Did you ever do any research into the area as an adult to see if there had been other sightings since your sighting in that area? Yeah? About five six years ago, I

8:24 got back into a big fortune, might say, and I got into the New Jersey chapter of Can I say that special organization? Now, I don't care what you say, people can Okay, no profanity, I don't care. Yeah, yeah, I'm not trying to plug. But I became friends with the bfro guys New Jersey, and it was because, oddly enough, another tangential story that would be one of the students I mentored through a He was an artistic boy, and for a program we had, I would have to drive him back, and he started telling me that he was afraid to get into the backyard of this wooded group home they had, and so were his staff, and they confirmed it to me. And I wasn't thinking bigfoot, but they started telling me things that sounded a little bit odd, and I started doing some research in the area, and apparently they had sightings in that area neighbors, including reputable people, and I found out some of these stories were related to a friend of mine now who works with the BFRO chapter out there, and so he convinced me to go back and turn and do research through their website on the area where I was. And the area where I was, it's not too far from the Ohio border, and of course, I guess you've heard of the Ohio dressman. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, So I have a feeling the same critter you might say, cryptid, And there's definitely a lot of sightings between that border area, going obviously into Ohio and coming into the Indiana Pennsylvania area that would be known as again the

9:56 top of the Chestnut Ridge, a ridge line of mountain is that on a map starts there and it extends all the way down to the Great Smoky Mountains, but that would be the northern tip of it, at least in Pennsylvania there. And yes, there's been a lot of sightings. Like I said, the actor Jimmy Stewart, as a kid, was quite fascinated by all the stories he'd heard now locally at that time. I also can recall as a child my aunt saying that her neighbors who had cattle and chickens, I would notice, I can't recall the cattle, but the chicken men. So the chicken cages, I should say, kept getting broken into, and they never found people responsible for it, but they figured had somebody had to have a lot of strength to rip open the cages. And then I found years later for my aunt that she said some of the farmers up there had admitted seeing big footprints in the area, and so she no longer doubted my story either. So I didn't get to meet any of these people. I knew a couple of the farms in the air. I don't want to mention names because a couple are still there, but their descendants or families, but those farms had some of these experiences where you know, pigs or livestock or even chickens have gone missing. That is wild, Greg. It sounds so it sounds like you are I mean you said you were involved with the BFO, right, lightly, Yeah, I mean the only reason, yeah, I got involved was because of this kid. I mean in the back of my mind. I mean, all these decades went by and yeah, just accept

11:28 this. It has probably some big Harry at Blake animal in the woods. But when this young kid was telling me a twenty year old I guess slightly very mildly autistic, so you could have a pretty good conversation with him and what he was describing these loud screeches and howls and grunts. And then I talked to the staff, as staff admitted to me, they live at the group home too, watching over these boys, and they usually put artistic kids, at least in New Jersey and PA. They put them in group homes out in wood so they're safer than not in a city environment. Bad things could happen, so it secluded. But what got me is not only the descriptions that he gave me, and there's a lot of water and streams in his neighborhood, but he lives actually in a pretty somewhat affluent area that group home, but the rest of the houses are affluent, and just one mile down the road. And maybe a few months before he had told me his story, there was a woman who had called the police and she had filled out a report and the BFRO listed the whole report. And my friend who took that report for the BFRO, had told me that, and I got to know him because I have researched bigfoot in that area and I found that and there was a report of a woman reporting to the police, and she lived in a nice house. Let's say one of the staff members knew who it was. I said, oh, yeah, I had heard about that too, like the year before, months before, And it occurred to me

12:58 that a woman of means, she had pulled in that night with her daughter coming back from like some kind of a great school play or something, and I guess her husband was out of town. But she pulled into her driveway and again this is a rural setting, but saw a large seven and a half foot or so harry ape like animal in her car port, and her daughter started screaming and so forth, and she could see it in the headlights and put in reverse and got the heck out of there and immediately filled out a police report, went straight to the place as matter of fact, and police came out. It didn't find anything, but it sure shook her up. And a woman like that in that kind of neighborhood, I fluent neighborhood, They're not going to make up a phony, baloney story like that, And I don't think the staff of the group had were home would either.

13:43 So that got me back into remembering my childhood experiences more fully and doing some research on my own. That man, that whole area with the group home, and then this lady experiencing something that feels like that's something that could really be investigated over the years. It sounds like you've heard a lot of different stories. Have you ever heard anywhere there was any aggressive interactions or any that were you know, like habituating a certain well certain two parts. I guess Tobacca from Star Wars, if you have this off a wookie, real bad or rip off your arms. But yeah, but it's funny, you know that they put that in the movie because George Lucas the legend of you know, Boggy Creek or whatever. I guess the movie called movie. The guy who helped produce that later, you know it was a small time movie, of course. But he later a year or so later, befriended George Lucas, and George Lucas was still up and coming, and he got a job working with Lucas on the first Star Wars, and he told Lucas about his going down to report on these stories and get the information to do the movie.

15:00 And Lucas loved the idea and said, oh, that's something really cool. I mean, the kids will probably love it. So let's where Chebacca was born out of that legend of Boggy Creek. You might say, that's fantastic. I'd never heard that connection. That's wild, Greg. But the thing is, there are a long time like reports going back to what Port Luck, Port of Luck I believe it is, Alaska, yep. Yeah, you know about people finding limbs and so forth of hunters who were part of the logging crew up out there, the mine crew whatever it was, and then eventually scared them off, and his economics involved as well, but they ended up closing down that that whole area for logging and stuff or that whole port, I should say, but I think that aided the reputation of could these things be violent, possibly under the right circumstances. Now the areas were this kid. The other part of the answer your question, Jeremy at Maya, is that the kid in the group home and the woman that's right in the New Jersey Pine bearings, Okay, because I've moved from Piata to New Jersey where I live now, and the New Jersey Pine Barons have I guess everybody knows. And they made a hockey name, the hockey team after it, the New Jersey Devils, right. And the thing is that the guys I'm familiar with are part of the BFRO chapter from New Jersey Pine area, and we have active investigations going on. I'm not a full fledged member.

16:26 I may become one in the future if I have the time. But my buddies there do a lot of research. One of them lives right by the pines. He has a business out there as well, so oftentimes after work he'll go out there and sometimes with his wife and kids, and he's had experiences and he knows some of the top researchers in the country, and he's putting on a couple of shows soon with some of them. And I'm not going to get into mentioning names or anything, but we feel now in the New Jersey Pines, and I've had a couple of loose experiences there with him, my self, Free Knox and so forth, finding so footprints. We're making casts now and we have a guy in North Carolina his sisters.

17:07 The thing in Bigfoot now you can do DNA samples from water like with a lot of animals, So we're involved in doing that, and like I said, I'm not official yet, but if I spend more time with them, it might become. So, Greg, are you relatively close to the Vineland area, Well, yes and no. I go through there are times, but my actual residency yeah, in New Jersey right now. I've had to move to North Jersey from Bokus, so I'm actually northern tip of Jersey outside of New York City. Gotcha if you ever are down by the Pine Barrens area. I don't know if you've heard the interviews I've done with a gentleman named swamp Dog from the Vineland, South Jersey area, But there's some really my friends are his friends? Okay? Really? Yeah, there's some really interesting bigfoot activity going on south of the Pine Barans and de Penansually you would never know, so just curious if you had had any interaction with that.

18:02 So that's cool though I haven't personally, but I know of what you speak and the guy you're talking about, and I have definitely heard some interesting stories. Now I'm down in the pines about I come down about every six weeks or so, so well, maybe we'll make a trip down there. I'll get my buddies who go out all the time and they go there, so maybe I can get them to call you. A couple of them have their own podcasts too. Yeah, very cool. Yeah, I'd love to have him reach out. You could email me at big for Society at gmail dot com. But Greg, it's been a pleasure chatting with you. Please stay in touch. Sounds like you are probably going to have some interesting things come across your plate in the future as well. But I can already see I've got a few more calls that have come in. But it's been a pleasure chatting with you, my friend, are you too, and good luck and yeah, we'll be in touch. Absolutely, have a good night, sir, Jill. What a great first call. Let me check the old Google voice here. Let's see what if we had any thing else? Come in, let's see. Oh yeah, we had a few more. Let's let's see what we got here. All right, I know this is the boring part. Sorries. Guys, I'm gonna get the number. All right, here we go. Hi, Jeremiah, Hi, This is Jeremiah. Who is his? This is Nora. Oh hey, Nora. Yeah, thank you for calling and real quick? Were you able to fill out the guest release for him? I was awesome, perfect, and I didn't see a

19:33 transcription of your voice message. So I'm just going to say go ahead and feel free to share what you have to share, and I might have a few questions at the end. Thank you for calling. Okay, great? All Wow? What do I have to share? It's way too much for the time you have. All right. No, I actually was directed to you, Jeremiah through context when I did an interview with Migul Ramarrez from says far They Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, what a brother right, oh yeah. So that I'm hoping will be a multi part in itself because it is a lifetime for me. Literally, I'm sixty one years old.

20:15 Recently retired, thank goodness, so I have more time to get out there and do the research I do. I really am a lifetime researcher because of experiences going back into childhood in Michigan and then I was very blessed to be born to parents that My mother was a teacher, she was a writer. We traveled the entire United States back roads wilderness, learning of wildlife and just the whole time we were raised what people might call up grade or whatever, but we were holistic. Even though my parents did their they had professions and all that, and as well as as kids, we still lived that life of the wilderness, the woods being closed to consuming what you produce, hunting fish, so all that all over the United States. In fact, my family is spread out Montana, Oregon, Washington, all the places of all these great Bigfoot stories. And I recently came back to Michigan connected some childhood memories along with relatives, cousins in this and that in the Mid Michigan and northern Lower Michigan area. Of so many encounters, some of them are well known, they're published legends, things like that, and I just I came back for physical healing after some injuries and this and that, and started hiking and getting back into the way it was for me when I grew up here with we always lived way out in the country. Not farmers per say,

21:48 but semi we were sustenance, so we had our own fields, our own animals like that. Us kids would take off for the day and even days off into the forest, our own forest, the neighbors, fort wherever, snowmobile across the countryside. And that's how it was back then in the late sixties and seventies, and so many encounters and so many legends that they were so natural to my family, as well as the upbringing we had in the mid Michigan area with the Jibue in the Chippua Nations where I lived. There was so much talk about it wasn't new to me. When I came back and I was recuperating in getting back out hiking and getting back and I went exploring all the places I knew as a childhood. And then here is all these YouTube channels and people coming out with the things that I only really spoke of in groups or the knowers or the ones that I saw these things with or grew up with. And I was so fascinated with the fact that wow, this is great. This is everybody, not just us in this little area in Michigan. And so I've had years, thirty years being back here in Michigan working really hard in my job. But I'm retired now to goodness, and using my spare time to go and follow these pools that I've had, and then we go into other conversations like I did with McGall and great length offline and somewhere online. Of these pools I get to areas and if anyone watches the December I don't remember quite when I aired it, just

23:23 released with him my Michigan some of my experiences. It started snowballing as I was talking to him, because there were the memories and the stories and the legends and the encounters as a child growing up and hunting and forging all over Michigan, it being a natural part of our life because of like Native American laws, we went to howells that were not like the tourist ones. They were true meetings of various clans in the areas of the countryside I grew up in. So that was all natural to me. Then coming back out about it now publicly and everything. It almost seems like I'm trying to convince people of legends are true and all that, but there's too many. There's too many of us. You, all the people that call in, all the people listening are all have had their encounters, their experiences. So now it's just us getting together as groups. And then I almost want to break it down and categorize it. We have sasquatch and other cryptids in Michigan. I hate mentioning dog man, I talk about Micguil's. I don't want to bring forward anything around me that's dark or anything like that. But we have to know that this is everywhere, not just out in the Pacific Northwest or Texas or wherever is. Everywhere are more than what we think. There are what we were raised to think there is. I, on the other hand, was raised to know that there is all of this, So to me it isn't a surprise. So I've come out now, and I want to join societies and like get involved in this research. And I documented videotape. I

24:53 write, and I write and I write. I have volumes of things I've written. I have friends and acquaintances very select because of the belief set of keeping things pure and not contaminated. When we're looking beyond our mobile belief sets, I can get so deep. And that's what I was saying. We could break this down an index like let's talk about UFOs, so let's talk about orbs, let's talk about lights in the forest, let's talk about sasquatch. It's all there, and honestly, I've had a lifetime of it and through that my family, my friends, you and the society that you have created. That's what I want to join and I want to be part of the shares. Absolutely, Nonora, it sounds like you definitely have had a lifetime experience thinking through all of the things that have happened. Is there one that sticks out where it's like, Wow, this was the time where like I became a knower after this particular situation. I've been asked that a lot of the blessed upbringing and where I grew up and how I grew up and the lineage in my family. I guess when you talk about when do people know because of what they've been told or learned, I guess ever since I came I'm at the taal end of a very large family of kids too, and that was another thing about this area back nine ten kids. There's nothing in a family out in the Feign country or the wilderness area of the logging.

26:27 My family were loggers. So you can imagine all the stories you've already heard about the foresters, universe encounters. So you can imagine the legend. I say legends because that's what people know. You can imagine the stories handed down in my family by the loggers we were. They built the roads in Michigan. I can name exact roads that I know my grandpa and my uncles built, cut down the trees and built the roads. So the encounters and the stories and the hunting camp stories I grew up with. And we had huge hanging camps. And I know a lot of the michigan Ers Wisconsin, everybody will know of these childhood times that the big hunting get together is and nobody come up to the hunting camp and it's a week, two weeks, whatever it is, and everybody's out there and there's stories, and then there's the stories are the ones that aren't there any more, that get hanged down.

27:15 That's how I grew up. So to me being an I guess, I guess because it just it's and then experiencing my own I can go back to a time the first time when it was with siblings and not on my own experience where it could be questioned. So I kept it to myself, even though I was at the talent of others I knew did have those. But a collective sighting would be when the three of us going up the long driveway in a bitter cold Michigan winter to wait for the bus at the end of the driveway, very long driveway, passed upond and trees out to this rural road in the country a frosty morning probably and I'm not exaggerating anyone back in the seventies knowing Michigan winters probably fifteen below zero money really, and we had school back then. They call it off now if it's too cold, and were we passed the pond, and we passed where the trees and the forest that our house sat back into where we had these little meadows or fields mainly for pheasant bird hunting. We had a rye field. It was we geared our whole area for managing the wildlife because that was our sustenance. We'd get past the forest area and everything's white those frosted below zero mornings, where every single surface is crystalline white, and our breath is white. Your nose hairs are freezing. How your breath is hanging in the air. We're getting

28:47 off the road and we looked across the field and there's motion in this white frosted coverage of grass and trees with just all that cross colored whiteness, and this whiteness long like looves. And first, the very first thing, all three of our minds, I know we didn't verbalize it, but I know mine was. And then after we talked later was a deer was laying down and jumped up, and it had laid and got crossed on its back. But as we're looking at it, it was not shaped like a deer. It didn't jump off like a deer, and it didn't jump into the tall grass. It was on the edge of a cloud field that was furrowed in the fall for winter. And then you have a break between fields of like tall grass trees, a ditchline drainage, and it was right at the edge of that furrow field and that ditch line with grass and trees in it, and it popped up, so we see the frosted back and this brown light color under the frost. Auto man, if you think it's a deer, but no, it was much bulkier. It had that frosty shamer on it.

29:56 But then when it raised up, you could see the brown like hair fur whatever down from it, and you saw these legs bent like leaping up in these long arms pushing off from the knuckles. Like here's what we nicknamed it, the frost gorilla. Oh wow, that's really cool. And what it did is that, I mean, how can it be sleeping in that kind of temperature? Or maybe it shut its system down. People can do that underwater, increasing cold like slow their system down to where they can get through that. But maybe we startled it walking up the gravel driveway. It jumped up on that. It looked like a gorilla. It did, That's why I renamed it that. And then it leaped up and then it just did a lung sideways. They didn't really turn its body around. It just to the sideways, lunch into the ditch, tall grass and scrub. So we're we convinced ourselves it was a deer, and then the bus comes.

30:56 It's out of mind, right, And some years periodically through our growing up heres and to get togethers in the hunting camps. People would bring forward their stories. It was our great fun. It was our connecting with family members in US three we were the three youngest ones actually in this family, and it was my mom and dad's like forever retirement place that we built the home on and got everything set up for them to just and we talked about it periodically, and we coined the name frost Gorilla because no matter how many times we tried to say it was a deer that was laying down and got covered in frost, no matter how many times we try to tell ourselves that it was not, and that was like that was the first visual encounter. But like I said before, we were raised up on the stories legends of the family hunting cab and here's what happened out here. I can remember our Girls Scout and Boy Scout camp in mid Michigan where we actually got taken out of the camp one time. We were on a survival being in the upper level of Girl Scouts cadets, so we were older like sixteen seventeen, and we were staying in these cabin tents with the canvas siding and the wood platforms and it's been there forever. It's still there, that campus and it's on a lake. And we got taken out because of a breach in one of the cabins where we were convinced told it was a bear, and they actually all

32:28 the counselors, everybody there was, police officers actually come out and they helped us all go back. We gathered at a nearby church. Our parents picked us up. We were told a bear was coming in, but the ones that saw, now I wasn't at the end of the tenth that actually saw it. All I knew was the abruption of screaming and everybody running towards my end of the cabin tent to get away from back end of the cabin tent. But they said it was They thought it was a big man reaching in to maybe I'll cost these girl scouts if you know what I mean, you know, a predator, you know, wow? Yeah, yeah. And the arm reaching in because these cabin tens we were on a survival outing, so we were really rusty and they were just canvas with the tide ends and very opened the outdoors if you can picture that. And then the arm reaching into the hot right there at that end and then like a partially they could see the head of the silhouette of it. That was I mean, but we were tall, we were and I didn't see it. But the stories from the girls that repeated it in head nightmares and never dropped out a girl scout. It was that trauma. That was just what There's so many like I said, I need to catalog, and you really do, Nora, can you share what specific area like the frost gorilla happened in. I'll tell you. It's called the exact center of Lower Mind and so it's in the

34:00 gateway to the north. They used to call it back and the Claire area, so very Claire be between Gladwin right in the center of the Lower met Okay. So now that in that area. But had relatives, cabins this and that were regular all over Upper Michigan, Lower Michigan. We come from Canada originally, so we also had cabin and places in Canada in Ontario and all the story. Oh that's what I mean. I'd either had my own hill I write. My mother was a writer, she was a teacher. I write. My families urged me to catalog to get all this in writing but you know, that's a lot of work too. But that's why I reach out to these groups. I'm not interested in really publishing all this stuff.

34:49 I just want to continue my research, my sharing the knowledge did our headside of the sand on the right communities of people and knowers. That's where it will be is with each other. When I'm going with that, well, absolutely, it's very important to find your community and then help others out with what you've experienced and back and forth. It's super important. Have you heard of anything over in the Maynistee National Forest Area? So that's what I talk about in my interview with Okay guys. That's one of one of my recent main encounters where it's actually what helped me get a hold of me gout was the friend encountered this that had never had anything like that in their life ever. So it was so brand new and to me it was so natural.

35:38 They actually had written into day politis wow, and they presented that email and then it just snowballed from there and friends and family urged. So you've got this attention and you want to be part of this community and product, So it just snowballed from there. When some friends and family had sent stuff been about me because I was too shy to get out there. Even though I talk in public, sure by the job used to be and all that and what I still continue to do now that I'm retired talking about those things. Even though I was raised by it, I only talked about in the community of those that I was like. And even though my family was raised Old Roman Catholic, which is much of that area, like our family even founded the bishops of my family. I mean seriously, I was raised with that upbringing, but thank goodness, raised from the lineage I had in more of the First Nation belief sets, which really are in line with most religions anyway. So I was so blessed to have both sides of the coin.

36:45 I had parents that, but we were also You keep it in your community, just like tribal clans do, and you have your meetings or your powers. You keep things in there, and you keep your lineage strong and your belief sets strong. But then you go and share, combining with those that help grow those things in that learning and knowledge, and that's how I was raised. So I just most of the world. Then I'm raised in this community with a church. You got to keep it quiet, though you have to keep it quiet certain areas, right, But yet I'm so glad to be able to travel all over the United States and Canada backwoods and apache pop up tent, trailer and cabin tis. That's how my mom did her writing from and her teaching from, because she taught history and things like that, and she taught them from going and seeing it. And so I was really blessed about that. And now that I'm retired and I'm not working seven days a week for something that isn't aligned with what I want to be doing in life, now I've got the time. So now I'm going to get it going well. So what I would recommend is, even though it's a lot of work, take the work, take the time to get all that down.

37:57 Maybe even write a book or I don't know, up there, you right, but whatever I needed to do to get it all down. I have published books before, but they were for my profession in the doing, and I actually at the urgent like yours. Thank you so much for your support. I so appreciate that. That's what And then mcgimbals and I actually had the opportunity with Okay, we'll go back to who Greg was just saying about the BFRO. And I recently went to a local here where I left last year, and I went to that, and I'm glad I went to it because I didn't go like awestruck or celebrities struck or anything like. I went because I wanted to see who's in this community exactly. I want to go see this, So I got the time. Now. I missed all the big Foot when they came here to rest Common and all that before because I was so working, and I went to it, and I always Actually, I'm glad I get. I met so many great people, but I was disappointing the fact that it was more of like a show or like a I thought it was going to be like a town hall meeting like you see on the TV shows. Rather you raised your count a mapot on the man.

39:07 I thought it was going to be like that. Totally not. Actually, the way it was formitted it shut the local residents down from speaking about their inspirit. So nobody talked, nobody raised their hand. So I thought, Okay, that's not what this is supposed to be about. So what I decided to do right there and then as I introduced myself. I'm a friend of the woman of the Chamber of Commerce that organize this thing, and I want to organize one here locally where I live. Okay, so I'm in the doing that right now. Good for you, and just start start with my neighbors, right I talked about it in my interview with Miguel. I just recently moved to because of the floods and the dann failures in Michigan and not having a home. It's all this weird coincidence. I just recently moved to a very historic it's been on monster quests and all that, or not monsters. I can't remember the name of the channel that came here and did it, but it's the Bentley Hollerd Bentley, Michigan. I actually now my property is actually it's like eighth of my at the dead end roma out of my place here and then I can. I talked about all my encounters here at this new home, so I decided I'll start out with my locals.

40:16 So I've been anytime I go get my car, I chat with them, the locals. These people have been here or the family's been here forever. I'm not afraid to bring it up anymore because I've had help from people like Miguel you. I'm just going to do it. There's so many of us have had this when you live here, and I grew up with it. I'm sure a lot of other people grew up with it. So I'm going to Hopefully, I wanted to do it this summer. I hope to get a town hall here. It may take longer, I don't know. We'll see, but I've got a lot of feedback on YouTube from Sasquatch Theory and Michigan. I hope to from yours Michigan people are near Wisconsin, Canada.

41:00 Let's get together and have fun finding out all there is to know. Absolutely, would you be you know, in our last few minutes ago, would you be able to maybe share one of the things that's happened to you in this Bentley Holler area, the Bentley Holler Yeah yeah, So I heard the move chair as says, this is my third year here, and like I said, there was the floods, the damn failures that without a home, I lived in a campus for two and a half years. Nobody could try the home. Everybody needed a home. Anyone who knows about that history of that, and there's documentaries that, so it was this really unconventional way. It was someone that was overheard me in a conversation with someone else about you can't get a home, and you hear about wine, you go to go look at it the real or to meet you in the driveway and says it's already gone. It went on that way for two and a half years, and anyone who knows about this there, he knows that how it went Weirdly. This person that over here heard me was this person that goes in in like Flip's houses, and she ended up telling me after she got out of work and would to do her second job at puipping this house way out in this kind of like really secluded area out in the country from where we worked, and she called me and she was norma, these are your relatives because this is my founding area where my family came into, like I said, building the roads and doing the logging and going all the way back.

42:22 I have tons of history and family history. And sure enough she told them my plight about I'm living in a camper in my husband's backyard for two and a half years, and I went over after work started talking to them and it was an immediate yeah, we'll help you out. Their mother had passed away. They got this five hundred acres. The boys are all splitting it up as part of the estate, but they hadn't got around to doing it. It was hard for them to do after she had passed. So on and so forth. I needed a place to stay, parked the camper here and let's work out a deal. And then they started talking. They started talking about it. My friends and co workers that lived in the area I worked in the area that I moved to, said, because they all know about me, they all know about my life, because they all know about the area. You're moving right next to where the Bentley Holler is being recorded and has been being recorded for this farm family at the end of my road has been recording them and track for multi generation in the area. And it's been other places that come here, and even the bfrros out here. And I said, yeah, I full well know about it was a high school thing. And you're like, yeah, we all knew about it. We should drive out here, high schoolers at night and drive out here and see to hear howls and stuff like that. It was a thing, and so yeah, Pulley well aware of it and everything, and I was just thinking, yeah, I know, but that's over there, but then the road over on that road, duh, how stupidly. It was really the first days and nights that everything started, and I talked about that in that interview

43:53 and like when it was almost like they were inducing themselves to me. Really it was. I found. The first thing I found is after the first talks with the family in the front yard about me taking it over, parking my camper here, let me do the work in the place. You guys are elderly and it's hard to get it ready for the cell and so on and so forth. I'll just take that over and do the work. And the whole thing. It was like literally while we were walking the property to say, figure out what you want surveyed out and cut your chunk out of here and we'll sell that to youre. So we were doing that survey. Walk through the woods. There's springs here, there's a river here, there's I mean, it is really beautiful, very thick deep woods. There's berry patches, Like the berry patch on my property is like a quarter of an acre, large blueberries and rasberries, blackberries, all that right, very furm.

44:51 So we're walking the property and as we get out into this one area, I get this really big pull I work by poles, and I tid it. That's a whole other interview. Run back and get my phone, take pictures, and I should be anyway to record what I want to survey out I take. I get this pole over this huge ancient oak tree. It's like these three. It's ancient, and there's the most gigantic X out of these timbers that are ten inches in diameter, and it's gigantic because the limb of the oak tree that they're propped against is probably about twelve to fifteen feet high and these are like ten inch around timbers and a giant X.

45:38 And the thing that struck me and I took the pictures of is the root systems of these two trees were up against up in the air against this oak tree one west in the crook of the tree, the try oak one on that limb that came out from it, and the root systems were up there and there was nothing on the round around it that showed where like a root popped out of the ground or anything. They weren't even from that area. And then at the top of the ax there was another big branch, but it root system. It was broke off at both ends. That was wedged through the why of the top of that ax like horizontal across there legs.

46:22 There's no tree fall will wedge itself of its own weight. Right. A root system on a tree can pop out of the ground if if another tree falls on it with enough weight and it's rotted in the root system, it would pop out of the ground. Right. We looked for all of that. I took pictures of that, the whole thing. It's it was there for the longest time. Other and can go on. But it was when I actually took possession and moved out of the camper after I signed off in the houses that didn't move into it till I did. It was when I first had something. I don't know why, why, how orware other than I don't have normal sleep patterns. I got up at three o'clock in the morning. Youautiful, sorry summer night. The skyview I have here is incredible.

47:05 I walked out onto my front deck. I don't know why, even I just got up out of bed. I walked out into the front deck. As soon as I pulled the door shut behind me across the road for me where it's even thicker woods and that river drain still continues on. There was three huge loud anchoing through that quiet summer night, and it was still quiet through no frogs known up and three huge knocks bam, bam, and then the pod and then bam even louder. And I had a porch light on it, so I'm illuminated and everything in front of me is dark, and I was like, holy hell. So I gathered myself and I turned around and I thought, okay, this isn't that new to me, and I already moved up. I turned around and took the flat up my hand and I bashed it against the siding of my house, which equally echoed through that summer loud. I did it three times and stopped. I didn't do a pause, and two more. I was there three times, super loud, and stood there, and then there was sam and it sounded closer, like way closer, like just across the road to my driveway. I have a long driveway, but way closer, and those two loud knocks, and I just got super unnerved, even though I was used to it. I got a nerved and I just went back in the house. I went back to bed sleep, and then there were so many things that have happened here, rock platues of rock being taken, things on my roof, fashes on the east side of our house, other symbol structures, the exits now gone.

48:39 And the tree those big limbs that were making that giant X picking fee high or whatever are not laying on the ground. They are gone, but carried away down. I had a boulder and I filmed this, and I have pictures of it before when it was there, After the rock plaques and the chip has broke out of it, and then after I don't know this is I don't want to prelog it, but it's this like part two to interviewing with Miguel. It was immediately after that, immediately after that aired. These things happened all in a row. I have them all documented. The phone. I was on the phone with someone when it got thrown on my ruck. The next morning, at daylight, I was looking for tracks none.

49:29 Something told me to go over to my boulder garden that was here, and my boulder, the one that had the chip out of it, is gone and it would take a truck, a couple of people, a strep to lift that carry that away. It is gone. And in the video I checked, it just snowed lightly too, and I thought, perfect, I'll get tracks right whatever, through whatever. There's no tracks, but you can see the snow line that had built up around that boulder when I was sitting there, so I knew it that wow. And I have witnessed. I have witnesses all this too. They absolutely, I have said, I have so many witnesses, and that's what they all urged me. There are the witnesses, and the ones that have experienced are the ones family friends that urged me get out. Didn't share this stuff because you're not nuts. Because we're seeing this. We know that you couldn't let that boulder and like sneak it away and hide and then tell us it's missing. There's no way, little old you, I'm not big, could move that boulder. There's no way. And I did I and on the video I have I yelled out across the road that was across me, I said, where's my rock?

50:38 Who chucked my rock? And at that time there was a witness standing at my deck that just to ride there, and he's trying to figure out he was coming out there to hunt. Actually, I let people hunt here, and he had come out to hunt, and he saw me distressed in the front yard of my phone videotaping. And then when I got done saying where's my rock? He was standing there waiting for me to get done. And as soon as I turned to walk towards some two huge knocks across the road, and he flipped out. He did. He flipped out. He's like, holy cow, what is going on? He had experienced. I have chimpanzee chatter, bark like roofs that are super loud and deep and guttural.

51:20 But this is common in this area. Hold on, wait, sorry, so you are experiencing chimp like chatter and whoops in your area. I told my girl, I wish I had good equipment when I was in lost everything in the flood. I lost everything. I lost all my gear, my cameras. I saw it. I got ready prepared because I was actually part of the preparation and rescue team in my local village I lived in, so I had a lot of stuff already taken out and taken over to my excess house. But then there was a lot of things I still lost that just at that moment weren't that important to me. We didn't have that much time to evacuate, right, So I lost a lot of things and had to rebuild it. So I don't have the recording equipment I used to have.

52:07 I'm just rebuilding it now. We have it recorded on my phone of this cond It's a conversation across the road to me. It's a lower rumberly like really little and I'm not good at it, but I'm just trying to give you the context of the Then probably about ten fifteen feet beside it, and then I feel like it was right in the ditchline. Now I do have a four hundred and some foot driveway, but I feel it's like in the dishline across the road to me, and then ten fifteen feet beside it from it is a It was so weird. I was like, so, there's the stainhill cranes that will nest over there in this little metal area in the woods, but that's not they make a different sound, right, And then I was hearing farther back way back by a tree line across the field from this ditch line where I heard that sound, I heard like a really loud like I don't know, it was like a dog barker, like a like almost like it was an adult telling then knock it off or get it.

53:19 And I more than one time, but I did get that on my phone recording it because I started recording it when I started hearing the chimpanzee chatter, and then I got the book in there. I took it to a friend's house that had I put my phone to it and they could amplify it a little bit and they were flabbering accid. Wow, So you do have the recording right now of yeah, wow, I was just messing around. I just set up a new computer where I'm at now and thinking of that. But yeah, I don't have good equipment. I'm working on it. But I mean you could. I have friends, I like, they just come out here and sit and have a campfire with me. Yeah, we're not thinking talking about I think and it is not just satisfage or related the sky activity that goes on that is so well seen here and also a part of my life all my life. Wow, Like I said, like you said, write a book, it sounds incredible. That's that is You've got wild stuff going on right now and that I don't like. I mean, I love it, and yeah, it's awesome, but I'll start out little with a town hall meeting and hooking up with people like you and everybody is to you, and it filthy to reach out to me, and yeah, please hire, please continue, don't be afraid to keep me up to date with what's going on. And if you get to the point where you can send some audio files, I would love to hear what you're capturing. Maybe even start a YouTube channel, just start, you know, six scrapes. I

54:52 just don't know. I don't know how to do that stuff. I need someone to help me with it all. But started putting the there folders of different things, okay, because if anyone wants to go out and listen to that Michigan in Counters with me with Miguel, I talk about things other than SaaS Quatch that I do have photos of as well, okay, related to SaaS Qutch for other magic. Yeah, and I have clear photos that blow people away, unique trees that posted on Yeah, wow, that's awesome. Please reach out to me. I'd love to see your channel if you want to share that with me, Just so I can be hard to find it, but if you can share the link to it, it's Big for Society at gmail dot com. You can email me and thank you Nora for chatting, and hopefully we'll be able to catch up sometime in the future as well.

55:43 Yeah, we will, super and thank you and I'm a happy meeting everybody. I'm your group and I will send you some great stuff. You'll have fun with it. Absolutely great chatting with you, Nora. You have a great night you too, Good night, Good calls tonight. We got one more should we try? Should we call the last person back? Someone in the chat? Let me know. Are you guys up for me to call one more person back? I gotta see someone say yep. I can see someone say yep in the chat, then I'll call him back. All right, Ao, you asked for it. Let's okay, so you get the number. I hope this person isn't asleep. I guess we'll find out.

56:27 Guys, we might get yelled at. I hope you're ready to get yelled at. Here we go. This is Jeremiah from Big Society calling you back. Sorry, it's late. I just want to double check so you're aware. This is recorded for the podcast in live and were you able to fill out the guest release thing. Yeah, Jeremiah was on the show earlier. Oh, Greg, I was like, this guy sounds just like Greg. Did you call me back? Yeah? Might have been because when we're playing phone tag. I don't know. Maybe something happened there because I never hung up. I just switched the call over. Maybe it called you.

57:07 That's funny. Hey, listen, I'll have one of my buddies from New Jersey Pine the Barons BFO. I will call you back. His name's Eric Spinner if you look them up, blank guy. Yeah, and they're doing a per con. They got Nick Pope coming, esterbh's coming at something later and what's his name? Ronnie LeBlanc as well, and Bill Burns from UFO Hunters. So you know, well it's it's called the Bucks County pera Con and it's the first one. And then there's that's on March ninth outside of Philadelphia. Yeah, yeah, and then there's another one in the June. There were esterbh's coming, Ronnie in the blank, Ron moorehead and that's coming to New Jersey closer to where I live. Anyway. I'm in a Walmart right now, I got to check out. Well, we know you about it, Okay, Yeah, thanks sure, Mark, have a good one all right. Well that was the same person and Greg. It was good to talk to Greg again. But guys, we've had a great night.

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