March 16, 2026

A Hunter in Westmoreland County Describes the Moment Something Passed Beneath His Stand

A Hunter in Westmoreland County Describes the Moment Something Passed Beneath His Stand
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Season 1

In this episode, we delve into the remarkable experience of Paul from Westmoreland County in southwest Pennsylvania, a lifelong outdoorsman, archery hunter, and woodsman who has spent decades exploring forests across the country. Having grown up in the woods of central New York and later spending years hiking, hunting, and trail building in Pennsylvania and Colorado, Paul knows the forest in a way that only comes from a lifetime outdoors.


During the early days of the 2020 bow season, while sitting high in a tree stand on a property he knows inch by inch, something happened that changed the way he sees the woods forever. The forest suddenly fell completely silent. Every sound disappeared. In that stillness, Paul noticed something moving beneath him that did not look like any animal he had ever seen before.


What followed was a moment that left him questioning everything he thought he understood about the wilderness around him. In this conversation, Paul carefully recounts what he witnessed that day and how the experience affected his relationship with the woods he has always called home.


Join us as we explore Paul’s story from the forests of southwest Pennsylvania and hear firsthand what can happen when something unknown moves quietly through the trees.

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You're listening to Bigflat Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society, Welcome

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back to another episode. We have the privilege of talking

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to Paul today. Paul is a listener of the show

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from southwest Pennsylvania. He is an archery hunter, outdoorsman, hiker

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guy who is out in the woods quite a bit,

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and he's on the show today to share something interesting

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that he experienced while out there archery hunting. How are

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you doing today, Paul, I'm good? Thanks absolutely. Is there

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anything else that you would like to provide as information

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about yourself before we get going with what happened to

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you that day?

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Yeah? I just so people have an idea of who

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I am or where I came from. I grew up

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in the woods. I grew up in Central New York.

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From a young age, I was in the woods. I mean,

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I'm fifty two and we only came home when the

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streetlights came on. So I spent all that time in

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the woods. I moved to Pennsylvania, piked, trail, built, mountain biking, hunting.

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My kids grew up in the woods. My kids know

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the woods better than most adults. At four and five,

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I lived in Colorado, hike in Colorado, camped in Colorado,

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solo hiking, all of that. I moved back to Pennsylvania.

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Same thing, solo hikes. Me and my buddies would do

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five day hikes. We would go and we always called it.

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It was before like everybody knew about bush craft and

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stuff like that. But we would go on man We

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called it manhood retreats. And we'd just go in the

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woods with guns, not even twenty two's.

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I mean, I don't even consider that a gun.

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But we would be in the woods with twenty two's,

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no food, no.

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Water, just us in the woods. That's it. If you

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shot a squirrel, you ate that day.

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If you caught a fish, you ate that day. You

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you snared a rabbit, you ate that day. If you didn't,

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your friends laughed at you, and then we drank whiskey.

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I mean, that's the amount of time I've spent in

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the woods is I don't think most people could. I mean,

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I know there's more people that spend time in the

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woods longer than I have, but I just grow up there.

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I've always been comfortable. I've never had any weird.

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Experiences, and it was just always I.

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Would take my kids on night hikes with no flashlights.

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I mean, that's how much we were in the woods.

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And I think it was early po season twenty twenty.

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And I hunt a fifty acre property. There's only two

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of us that hunt it. There's another one hundred and

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fifty acres that's landlocked so no one can get to it.

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And let's say, walk through my property and you could

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blindfold me and drop me off anywhere there, and I

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still know how to get back to the truck or

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how to get back to the farmhouse. That's my property.

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I know every inch of it. I always like my

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boys were five and six and I'd be like, hey,

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there's a monte Carlo out there that's rusted and falling apart,

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go find it. And I'd send them in the woods

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at five and six, four and five, go look for stuff.

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That's how comfortable they were in the woods. And it was,

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like I said, twenty twenty, early bo season. And I

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was never a big morning hunter. I'm in noon, tonight hunter.

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And around ten thirty I walked out to mon of

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my stands. I've shot so many deer out of this

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stand it's not even funny. And I get up in

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my stand. I'm sitting there normal, looking around.

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Listen.

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I got settled in an apple. And when your early season,

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it's it's mid fall, and the woods are alive, They're

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not every noise you can hear. And I'm sitting there

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watching sipmunks running around, squirrels running around. Everyone's busy doing

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getting ready for winter. And I'm just sitting there and

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I've never been in the woods where it was like

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someone hit the mute button. And that's what it was.

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It just stopped. There were no noises. It was so quiet.

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You could hear the leaves fall and I couldn't even

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hear that. And I sat there and I looked, I'm

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looking around and I'm listening, and it's.

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Surreal.

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At that point, my tree stands twenty five almost thirty.

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Feet up in the air. I don't know.

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I'm not one of these old men that can't hunt

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hop high and I looked down and I can't explain it.

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This thing, it forgive me. I've only told this story

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a couple of times. It was like it was floating

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underneath my stand, maybe ten feet down, and I've the

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best way to describe it. It was just a distortion

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that glided directly underneath me.

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I still.

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When I talk about it, still feel the same way

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I did when I saw it.

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And.

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It walked well, it glided underneath me. It was like predator,

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is the best way to describe it. And like I said,

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it just floated and it wasn't like I could see

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the depth of it because of the space underneath me.

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I know my stand, I know where that stand is,

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I know what's been below me, I know what's twenty

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and thirty and forty feet out or forty yards out.

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I know everything about that area and quietly just made

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no noise and just floated up over the next rise.

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And as it I couldn't see it anymore. All of

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a sudden, the mute button was off. Mute button. Every

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sound came back, every noise came back. I could hear

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the chipmunks running around and squeaking, pitching a fit. And

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that's I That's what I saw. And I sat there

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for two hours in disbelief, just trying to figure out

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what just happened.

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So that is absolutely incredible. Definitely have a few questions

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for you, so just so I get exactly what's going on.

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So you're looking down at it, and for what you're

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looking at, are you able to look through it or

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is it a thing where you can't really see the

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ground through whatever is passing underneath you.

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It was like it was pixelated and I could see

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the ground, but it was more like it was, I

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don't describe it distorting my vision. So I could see

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what I needed to see was the ground, and I

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saw the ground, but it was moving.

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As it moved below me. Okay, so it wasn't. It

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wasn't it was.

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It was like a very good camouflage that I can't

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wrap my brain around. And like I said, it wasn't

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it started. So if we're talking about how tall it was,

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like I said, I'm twenty five. My stand is twenty five,

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almost thirty feet up. It was ten feet below me.

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Oh wow, so the top of it was ten feet

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below you. Yeah, oh my goodness, that's really tall. What

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is that like close.

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To fifteen or yeah? Yeah? Both?

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Okay, okay, have you ever seen the barbershoot footage?

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No?

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Okay, it'd be interest after this if you just you know,

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is this.

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The lady that was Is this the lady that was

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archery hunting and something about a football game?

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No? No, it's been on the Flash of Beauty channel,

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that Bigfoot channel. But it is very similar. It's another

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version of like the predator effect, which you already brought

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up right, But yeah, it's an actual video of it,

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and it'd be interesting if that's similar to what you saw.

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Was the distortion any colors at all?

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See, that's no, it was the Okay, so you have

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to understand I'm colorblind. Well, I'm red green deficient. So

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I mean, you like, pink looks like gray and brown,

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green looks like brown. Red looks like brown. But it

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was I mean, if you think about the woods, I

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don't see like everyone's in the fall. Everyone's like, oh,

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look at the pretty colors and I'm like, yes' because

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I can't see them.

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But no, it was. It was a very good match

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for what was around it.

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Okay, that's really interesting. Oh when you so, when the

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mute button effect kicked in, was there anything that was

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happening with the pressure in your ears at that time?

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No?

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No, Like I said, the thing is just like I'm so,

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I would do it.

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I would go.

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Out just to do firewood and I was so at home.

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I would like sit down on a log and fall asleep,

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and I didn't feel pressured. I didn't feel anything like that.

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It was just there and it just everything stopped.

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Okay. Yeah, were there any any smells out of the

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ordinary at that time?

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No, No, it was it was.

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The normal fall would smell, that smell of decay that

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the leaves are falling and rotting, and like you're just

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used to, you know, that smell of being in the woods.

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In the fall. Yeah.

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Absolutely so. Due to the mute button effect being kicked in,

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I mean, you're not even hearing anything like the crunching

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of leaves like someone's walking under you.

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Not a sound.

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Oh my goodness.

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I could hear myself breathe and that was it. And

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the crazy thing is I didn't. I didn't hunt until

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last year. I haven't gone out bow hunting until this

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past season, and I went out twice and that was

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at Yeah, it's I would go. I would go on

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five day hikes on my mountain bike. I was putting

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in three hundred miles hiking, just almost as much scouting,

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I mean my kids. I started taking my kids scouting

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when number three and four. No more scouting, no more

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setting up cameras. I wouldn't even go in the woods.

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I bought firewood. I've never done that in my whole

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life because I just didn't want to go in the

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woods and harvest anything. It was and it's still intense

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just to I feel pressure when I go in the woods.

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I feel it now.

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I can't imagine living through what you live through, I mean,

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still not knowing. I guess, well, I guess that's a

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question for you. Do you feel then that what do

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you feel that was that you saw beneath you from

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your tree stand.

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It's funny because.

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I got out of the woods that day and my

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mother in law owns the property that I hunt, and

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her and I are pretty tight, and I had said

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something to her about it, just because I needed to

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tell someone. I needed to say something to someone. And

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about a week went by and I got a phone

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call from the other guy that hunts the property.

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And he only hunts during.

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Rifle season, and he he's like, you know, your mother

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in law told me what happened. And I was like,

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I wasn't telling I told her that I didn't think

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she would say anything to anyone else. And he's like,

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there's a guy you need to check out. And I'm like,

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who's that? And he told me about Steve Isdell and

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I started watching him and yeah, it's uh, it's I'm

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I'm pretty sure it was a person of the woods.

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That they're well more adapted than we are. And I

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don't think they're playing hide and seek like some of

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these people think, or they're some great ape with a

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I don't I don't think any of that thing. I

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think it's something that we don't understand, and that all

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these people that think it's a great ape and all

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this stuff, I think it's all crap. I think they're

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all full of crap. And if you look at what

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the natives of the country said, and there are people

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I don't know that for sure. But that's the best

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explanation I have that they have something that we don't,

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and probably we lost a long time ago.

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Absolutely. So you're up there in the stand, you're archery hunting,

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so you have your boat. Did you have your bow

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in hand at this time?

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No, my bow was on the rest.

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Okay, gotcha. When you're experiencing this, did it ever come

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to mind like, oh, I should I pick up my

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bow and shoot this thing? Or was it a thing

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where it's like, I don't know what this is and

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I'm kind of just frozen.

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I was.

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I've seen so many things in the woods, things that

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you're that aren't supposed to be there, animals that aren't

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supposed to be there. I was going through a rolodex

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in my head of what could this be. I had

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no interest in even touching even touching my bow. I

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was in complete amazement and awestruck. It's unsettling because I mean, like,

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right now, I feel the way I felt that day,

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and I mean even even going out now, it's still

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I still feel the pressure, but I just I go

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out anyway. And I just got that back this year.

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So that's a rough one. I have thousands of dollars

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of mountain bikes sitting in my in my garage right

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now that haven't been ridden in almost six years.

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Oh my goodness.

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Wow.

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Wow. This is the same area where you would have

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your kids go out and look for things or is

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this a different area?

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No? Same area.

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Okay, So after that this experience, did that change at

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all where you're like, you're go and look for the

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car and the woods kids, or how did well?

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No, my kids, my kids. My kids are older now.

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Oh yeah, gotcha.

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That was when and they were really young, you know, six, seven, seven, eight,

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and now they're eighteen and nineteen. And it's funny because

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my oldest says, hey, Dad, let's go hunting. And I

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was like, and I'm like, what do you want to

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Let's go squirrel hunting? And I'm like okay, and I

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already know we're not going to squirrel hunting because he

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wants to talk about something, so it's not squirrel hunting.

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And my youngest son, you put a gun in his hand,

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and he's the quietest kid.

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Kid can do.

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He used to be able to do turkey calls just

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with his mouth, it was, and he'd always get calls back.

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He could call in Turkey from anywhere. This year is

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the first year my oldest son came to me and

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he was like, I want to start archery. And I'm like, okay,

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I'm not worried about him going on the property. And

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he knows the story. He might think I'm a little

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goofy and crazy, but that's okay, And I'm glad that

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he wants to go out and archery hunt with me.

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But there's no surprises if something happens, he knows what

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happened to me.

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Wow, very intense. And this so southwest Pennsylvania. And are

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we are keeping the county private for this correct?

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No, it's Westmoreland County.

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Okay, which I feel is very interesting. Looking at the

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map I have for if you go to big for

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Society podcast dot com, you can see the sighting map

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of people I've talked to. I mean, other people have

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experienced stuff in this county. I mean there was a

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class a visual of one in the early two thousands

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where screamed at a couple in this county and then

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some seventeen inch tracks that were found by a researcher

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in two thousand and three. So in just east of here,

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I mean, you've got really active at Laurel Ridge, and

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I mean the whole area in southwest Pennsylvania as crazy

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as you probably already know well.

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And that's the thing is is like me and my

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buddies would go, like I said, before we go out

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five days and hike Laurel. We would hike Laurel and

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stay five days, never never even a thought. And the

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fact that I didn't have an idea of what it

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could be until I talked to my buddy Darryl and

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he put me on the steavee and I was just like,

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it makes more sense now. And like I said, I

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don't think it's some crazy gorilla running around the woods,

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because that's just silly talk.

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After you had did anything else out of the ordinary

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happen in the time frame after you had this experience.

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Oh, I had, Like I said, I sat there and

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I didn't see it there. I saw a couple of squirrels.

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And where that stand is is a busy, busy section

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of woods for the dough to run through. I mean

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that's why my stand is there. It's busy and that

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time of day, so it had to be around three o'clock.

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It's a busy space. I have dough walking.

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Through there.

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From noon to well until the evening. They're walking through

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because off to my right is an old defunct apple orchard,

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and to my left of that stand is a saddle

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where they is a saddle and valley where they bet

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down on the hillside. So I know that they're walking

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through there because they're going to get apples as soon

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as they as soon as they get up in the afternoon.

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I mean, I have this place dialed. I didn't see

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a deer, not a single one.

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I'm trying to think this.

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Year when I hunted there, I didn't see a deer,

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not a single one out of that stand. Everywhere else

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on the property, every other stand I have, I saw deer,

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no problems. And I've shot so many deer out of

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this stand it's not even funny.

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So you start listening to Steve is Dahl and getting

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plugged into that community where you're hearing a lot of

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encounters from hunters and that people all over the place.

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Did you. Sometimes people will get to the point where

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they will start kind of looking in areas around where

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their encounter happened in saying like, I wonder if other

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people have experienced things like I have. Have you have

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you started looking into things like that or you're just

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kind of trying to figure out things for yourself.

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No, I haven't really been looking for other people's experiences.

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Like I said, this is like maybe the fifth time

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I've told the story. There's only a couple people that

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I've told the story to. I didn't want to put

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myself on blast. And as for going out, I don't

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know if you were getting at me looking for it,

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but no, I have no interest in looking for it because.

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That feeling.

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That I get when I go in that in the woods, now,

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that pressure, I don't want to. I don't I don't

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want anyone to feel that. My son understands that I'm

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not going to go and not hunt my property that

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I've been hunting for I don't even know how long,

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and I'm not going to give that up. So do

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I hunt that stand deep in the woods. Not so much.

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Might be sitting on the edge of a field. Am

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I walking a mile and a half two miles in

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mm hmm, maybe five hundred yards? But it's baby steps

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and I'm working at it.

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It's incredible stuff to think fifteen the max of fifteen

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foot potentially and predator cloaking type figure that can also

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control the sound around the area. And to hear something

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like that really really makes really makes you think about

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what could potentially be out in the woods.

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And the thing is, there was no bob to it.

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It was just a glide.

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So I saw the motion and I saw the shape,

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but there was no.

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You know when you walk, you bob. There was no bob.

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It was just a glide. And I watched, I watched

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a distort nature.

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Is it moved up the rise.

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Okay, so as you're watching it go up the rise,

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let's say you might have a tree there, and as

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it walks and glides in front of it, the tree

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becomes kind of wavy or.

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Yeah, oh yeah, like almost like a like a wavy pixelation.

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And the funny thing.

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Is is I'm at a plateau that standards on a plateau,

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and thirty yards off, maybe about thirty thirty five yards,

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the plateau bumps up. Again, that's the rise. When it

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got to the top of that rise, it was it

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would have been my height or taller. And I'm like,

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I said, twenty five thirty feet up in the air,

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and it just brews through and once I couldn't see

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it anymore. Like I said, the mut button was off

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and it was all at once. It wasn't like it

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just came in. It didn't just come in and it

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was it boomed.

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Everything happened.

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There's squirrels running around again, there's chipmunks making that god

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awful noise that they make. I don't have an explanation

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for it, and I think that for a long time

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that bothered me. And sometimes you can't. You don't have

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an explanation, and that's okay.

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I mean, yeah, you go from just thinking about your

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situation where you've spent years in the woods, you know

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everything that's there, you know it blindfolded, and how to

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take care of yourself, and then something comes into the

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place that you thought you knew everything about, and I mean,

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you are like totally trained for survival. But then there's

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this un seeable figure that's fifteen feet tall and you

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don't know how much strength it really has, but it

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can at least change what you hear and what you see,

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which is crazy to think about.

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I wouldn't say I'm set up for survival more like

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redneck survival.

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Gotcha, yeah, which I think is pretty cool stuff. Let's

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say there's hunters or outdoors outdoorsmen that are watching this

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and they've experienced something similar, Do you have anything that

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you would say to them, specifically as someone who has

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lived through an event like this, I.

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Think get out in the woods a lot sooner than

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I did, like this year. It's funny because before I

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got on the call with you, I was down in

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my garage working on one of my mountain bikes because

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I it was something I loved. It was something and

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that's the thing is it was something.

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I loved and I and it's not just those woods.

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It's everywhere I go.

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I go into the woods, I still feel that pressure.

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If I'm with other people, it's not as pronounced. I

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think that's a group mentality or safety in numbers or

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whatever primal coping mechanism that we have. I think when

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I'm with a group of people, it's or even one

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other person. I started hiking again last year, well not

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even last year. I got a new dog and we

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went out for a hike. And again it's a place

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that twenty minutes from my house. I've been working and

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doing mountain bike trail maintenance there.

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Okay, so my oldest.

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Son is twenty well about to be twenty, so probably

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seventeen years I've been doing mountain bike trail maintenance there

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and not a lot of people. I mean, there's a rail,

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there's a rail to trail there, but then there's mountain

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bike trails up on the hillside.

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And I have.

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Pictures of my kids doing trail work when they were

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three and four, learning how to divert water off a trail.

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And that's how much I spent time there. Is my

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kids were there, we would go and chap chop Japanese

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not lead because it's such an invasive species. And I

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went for a hype there with my dog, and I

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still felt the pressure, and see would look someplace. I

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would look there too, and I don't know if it

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was still the same pressure.

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I don't know.

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I don't know if that's my primal paranoia of to

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be honest at I don't believe in evolution, but I mean,

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I still think we had senses that we still don't

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even understand to this day, and we have abilities that

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we don't understand or some people can tap into. And

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I think there's been a lot of there's been a

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lot of I'm trying to think how to say this

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stigmatism put on people who see the in the woods

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that keep them away from it. And I think it's

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all by design. You'll meet someone, especially like there was

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there was a There was a cabin I used to

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go to in West Virginia out in the middle of

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freaking nowhere, down the logging roads that hasn't been used

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in thirty years. And the people you meet back there,

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they know things that no one else knows. They hear

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things that no one else hear, see things no one

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else sees. They're not hooked up to this system that

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does away and poo Poo's the idea of spirituality, whether

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it be you know, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, whatever the ism.

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There's people have a far better life than we do

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because you hear these people, these freaking dummies from the

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city going, oh, go out and touch grass, you know what.

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I touch grass all the time. I touch grass all

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the time. I was touching the tree when this happened

477
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.280
to me. I'm in the woods. This stuff isn't supposed

478
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:31.079
to happen. It did, it did, And I let that

479
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:40.800
pressure keep me out. And if someone does experience something

480
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.239
like this or whatever, it is don't let the pressure

481
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:49.639
push you out, push your way back in. Because now

482
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.840
I'm I'm having to learn it all over again. I'm

483
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.960
gonna have to go out and deal with it no matter.

484
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:56.320
Where I go.

485
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:05.519
So yeah, if someone experiences this and they feel that pressure, take.

486
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:07.960
A deep breath and go back in.

487
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:11.239
If it's if I would imagine if it gets really

488
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:14.880
if it's something that's really bad, you'll know.

489
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:18.840
I didn't feel threatened. I just felt.

490
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:22.639
The only way I can describe it as pressure is

491
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.159
the only way I can describe it.

492
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:25.599
It's that.

493
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:39.440
It's like a pushing down of my confidence in the woods.

494
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:45.320
And.

495
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.760
I let that keep me out and I'm done with that.

496
00:37:53.159 --> 00:38:01.400
I'm done without keeping me out. I still I don't

497
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:04.000
have Like I said, it's not fear.

498
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:04.800
It's just that.

499
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:12.119
Uncommon, unnatural pressure. Sorry if you hear my dog snoring,

500
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:18.360
but that's what it is. And I need to I

501
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:22.159
know for myself, I need to get back. I need

502
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.280
to go and run my chainsaw. I need to go

503
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:27.639
and run my mountain like I need to go and

504
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.119
sit in my tree stand. I need to go and

505
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:34.480
go for a hike or snowshoeing or whatever. God, I'm

506
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:36.360
supposed to do in the woods, because I know that's

507
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:38.280
where I'm the most comfortable. You put me in a

508
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:42.559
city I give. I look around and think everybody's a criminal,

509
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:45.840
and I want to leave. I go a little bit

510
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:51.119
down twenty eight and going towards Pittsburgh, and I'm likeugh.

511
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.159
My heart rate goes out, my blood pressure goes out,

512
00:38:54.199 --> 00:39:01.559
because I don't want to deal with these I'd rather

513
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:06.440
be idea, I'd rather be in the woods. And I

514
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:13.280
let this situation rob me of that, and I'm not

515
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:14.559
gonna let that happen anymore.

516
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:22.079
Do you have any thoughts about why it may be

517
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:27.679
a good or a bad idea to share an experience,

518
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.239
to share an experience like this, what happened to you?

519
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:40.360
Well, everybody already knows I'm crazy, and it's.

520
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:43.519
This is just a different extent to it.

521
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.480
I don't really care what people think, to be honest,

522
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:49.280
if they believe me, they believe me.

523
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:50.280
If they don't, they don't.

524
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.079
I guarantee they never spend as much time in the

525
00:39:53.079 --> 00:40:00.320
woods sys that I have. I was always open minded it,

526
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.719
and I you know it was I was always open

527
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:04.639
minded to the idea that there are things that we

528
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:14.920
don't know about and shoot, I started watching Steve Isdah

529
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:20.760
and then migrated to David Politi's and just the things

530
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:27.239
that he on the whole topic of Bigfoot and him

531
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:32.119
going to well, I can't even think of what it

532
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:36.760
was called travel Bigfoot is his book where he spent

533
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:41.679
time with natives them telling him about it. And now

534
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:43.880
we got people walking around in the woods going woo

535
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:48.199
woo and banging on trees. If they just shut up

536
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:51.400
for a minute and listen to the people that have

537
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:52.480
been here forever.

538
00:40:56.079 --> 00:41:04.079
And if what is it called?

539
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:10.760
Is it Olkhom's raisor And I think the easiest answer

540
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.199
is listening to the people. Listening to the people that

541
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:17.599
have been in the woods do commune with nature?

542
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:18.679
Now?

543
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:27.320
So I think there's a lot of propaganda out there

544
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.119
just to make it into this monkey man walking around

545
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:38.079
the woods. Yes one, because they don't want if we

546
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:44.320
understood what it was, we would see what we could

547
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:51.320
have been or could be or what they've taken from us.

548
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.760
Oh, that's I've never considered that theory before. That is

549
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.559
really intense, Paul. I'm gonna be thinking about that for

550
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:05.480
a while. Yeah, that is that is a way to

551
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:06.440
look at it, for sure.

552
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:14.639
Well, it's funny because my son, my oldest son especially,

553
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.920
I mean, he grew up with me, so I mean,

554
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:22.360
you could call me, you can call me a lot

555
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.119
of things. But I pay attention to the stuff that's

556
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:28.239
going on around me, and a lot of people don't.

557
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.679
People don't look up. People never look up.

558
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.679
And he said to me the one day and we

559
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.960
were just just general conversation. He goes, yeah, you know,

560
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:47.440
I've been reading a lot about my pioneal glend And

561
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:52.760
I was like, oh, okay, cool. He goes, did you know?

562
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:54.559
And I was like, don't say anything stupid to me.

563
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:58.079
He's like, did you know floride? I was like, did

564
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:03.159
you know? You never had floride as a kid. And

565
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:04.840
he goes, what do you mean? And I was like

566
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:09.039
you never had floride as a kid and he's like

567
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.920
why And I was like, because floride falsifies your pineal gland.

568
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:17.280
And he's like, well, how do you know about that?

569
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:18.719
And I was like, running, how do you think you

570
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:28.920
know about it? I think we're kept dumb and some

571
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:34.480
people love it, love it. They love to believe everything

572
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:39.199
that they're told. The TV tells him something, Hey, look

573
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:43.440
there's a monkey in the woods. The TV told me, so, Hey,

574
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.480
how about stop looking at the TV.

575
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.920
And go in the woods because there's no monkeys out there.

576
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:53.079
Well, and central Pennsylvania there was when they had that

577
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:56.880
truck accident, but there's no monkey man running around the woods.

578
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:06.159
Go in the woods. Stop watching the TV. Stop letting

579
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:07.519
other people tell you what to believe.

580
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:09.960
And that's why.

581
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:19.920
I I might not be the smartest person in the world.

582
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:24.159
I'm pretty sure I'm not the smartest person in the world.

583
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:28.400
But I know every day people are programmed by the

584
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:35.960
TV and the headlines and they never look into it.

585
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:40.039
Paul, thank you so much for coming on sharing something

586
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:43.360
that happens to you that you haven't shared too many

587
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:49.639
people before. And I think it's important to hear discussions

588
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:55.159
like this and for you know, hunters outdoorsmen to realize

589
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:59.559
that it's okay to share things that happen to them

590
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.920
out in the world that they might not be comfortable sharing.

591
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:05.519
But I want to make sure that you were able

592
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.679
to share everything that you had come to the show

593
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:12.679
to talk about today. Yeah, thank you so much for

594
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:14.480
coming on the show today.

595
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:14.840
Paul.

596
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.000
If you ever experience anything else, please feel free to

597
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:21.559
reach out and I'd love to hear.

598
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:24.199
About it, all right, cool, Jeremiah. Thanks.

599
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.639
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

600
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.920
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

601
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:33.800
would love to get out in those woods and experience

602
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:38.360
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can

603
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:41.960
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

604
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:46.960
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

605
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.639
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

606
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:54.800
even better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll

607
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:57.159
be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild.

608
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:02.679
I'll probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you

609
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:09.280
haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

610
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:11.400
you just got to be there. We'll leave it that

611
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:14.239
more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

612
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:19.440
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

613
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:24.400
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

614
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:27.599
not only go to the festival, but you can also

615
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:35.199
sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

616
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:39.920
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots

617
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:43.880
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

618
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:47.559
up for this and yes, this will also be filmed

619
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:50.800
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

620
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.960
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

621
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:57.199
It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

622
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:01.760
To get a tick, get head on over to Sasquatch

623
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:06.920
Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the code bsp

624
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like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two

625
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day pass for the price of a one day pass.

626
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So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

627
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:26.320
that you guys can can get a little help with

628
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.639
the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

629
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:33.920
you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can

630
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.239
talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

631
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.920
many people last year and the year before. It is

632
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.880
an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

633
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:47.599
and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

634
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:50.280
I want to say something directly to a very specific

635
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.800
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

636
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.800
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

637
00:47:56.800 --> 00:48:00.719
can explain, or if you're a National Park ranger forestreet

638
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.679
worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're

639
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:07.159
a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

640
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.320
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

641
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:13.880
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

642
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.960
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

643
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:20.599
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

644
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.760
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

645
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.599
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

646
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.320
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

647
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.960
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

648
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:38.519
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

649
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:42.280
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

650
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.559
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

651
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:48.039
that shook your faith, or if you work in the

652
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:52.599
shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen

653
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:56.440
what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,

654
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:02.280
even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

655
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.519
Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

656
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:10.559
what you've been forced to carry alone. And you're not alone.

657
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:15.719
You've got the story, We've got the mic see you

658
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.320
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

659
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:21.519
of the Bigfoot Society Podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

660
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.119
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

661
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.079
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

662
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.320
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670
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680
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:26.000
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681
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682
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