A Hunter in Westmoreland County Describes the Moment Something Passed Beneath His Stand

0:00 You're listening to Bigflat Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Big for Society, Welcome back to another episode. We have the privilege of talking to Paul today. Paul is a listener of the show from southwest Pennsylvania. He is an archery hunter, outdoorsman, hiker guy who is out in the woods quite a bit, and he's on the show today to share something interesting that he experienced while out there archery hunting. How are you doing today, Paul, I'm good? Thanks absolutely. Is there anything else that you would like to provide as information about yourself before we get going with what happened to you that day?

1:11 Yeah? I just so people have an idea of who I am or where I came from. I grew up in the woods. I grew up in Central New York. From a young age, I was in the woods. I mean, I'm fifty two and we only came home when the streetlights came on. So I spent all that time in the woods. I moved to Pennsylvania, piked, trail, built, mountain biking, hunting.

1:52 My kids grew up in the woods. My kids know the woods better than most adults. At four and five, I lived in Colorado, hike in Colorado, camped in Colorado, solo hiking, all of that. I moved back to Pennsylvania. Same thing, solo hikes. Me and my buddies would do five day hikes. We would go and we always called it. It was before like everybody knew about bush craft and stuff like that. But we would go on man We called it manhood retreats. And we'd just go in the woods with guns, not even twenty two's.

2:32 I mean, I don't even consider that a gun. But we would be in the woods with twenty two's, no food, no. Water, just us in the woods. That's it. If you shot a squirrel, you ate that day. If you caught a fish, you ate that day. You you snared a rabbit, you ate that day. If you didn't, your friends laughed at you, and then we drank whiskey. I mean, that's the amount of time I've spent in the woods is I don't think most people could. I mean, I know there's more people that spend time in the woods longer than I have, but I just grow up there. I've always been comfortable. I've never had any weird.

3:15 Experiences, and it was just always I. Would take my kids on night hikes with no flashlights. I mean, that's how much we were in the woods. And I think it was early po season twenty twenty. And I hunt a fifty acre property. There's only two of us that hunt it. There's another one hundred and fifty acres that's landlocked so no one can get to it. And let's say, walk through my property and you could blindfold me and drop me off anywhere there, and I still know how to get back to the truck or how to get back to the farmhouse. That's my property.

4:07 I know every inch of it. I always like my boys were five and six and I'd be like, hey, there's a monte Carlo out there that's rusted and falling apart, go find it. And I'd send them in the woods at five and six, four and five, go look for stuff. That's how comfortable they were in the woods. And it was, like I said, twenty twenty, early bo season. And I was never a big morning hunter. I'm in noon, tonight hunter. And around ten thirty I walked out to mon of my stands. I've shot so many deer out of this stand it's not even funny. And I get up in my stand. I'm sitting there normal, looking around.

4:57 Listen. I got settled in an apple. And when your early season, it's it's mid fall, and the woods are alive, They're not every noise you can hear. And I'm sitting there watching sipmunks running around, squirrels running around. Everyone's busy doing getting ready for winter. And I'm just sitting there and I've never been in the woods where it was like someone hit the mute button. And that's what it was.

5:42 It just stopped. There were no noises. It was so quiet. You could hear the leaves fall and I couldn't even hear that. And I sat there and I looked, I'm looking around and I'm listening, and it's. Surreal. At that point, my tree stands twenty five almost thirty. Feet up in the air. I don't know. I'm not one of these old men that can't hunt hop high and I looked down and I can't explain it.

6:28 This thing, it forgive me. I've only told this story a couple of times. It was like it was floating underneath my stand, maybe ten feet down, and I've the best way to describe it. It was just a distortion that glided directly underneath me. I still.

7:08 When I talk about it, still feel the same way I did when I saw it. And. It walked well, it glided underneath me. It was like predator, is the best way to describe it. And like I said, it just floated and it wasn't like I could see the depth of it because of the space underneath me. I know my stand, I know where that stand is, I know what's been below me, I know what's twenty and thirty and forty feet out or forty yards out.

7:50 I know everything about that area and quietly just made no noise and just floated up over the next rise. And as it I couldn't see it anymore. All of a sudden, the mute button was off. Mute button. Every sound came back, every noise came back. I could hear the chipmunks running around and squeaking, pitching a fit. And that's I That's what I saw. And I sat there for two hours in disbelief, just trying to figure out what just happened.

8:42 So that is absolutely incredible. Definitely have a few questions for you, so just so I get exactly what's going on. So you're looking down at it, and for what you're looking at, are you able to look through it or is it a thing where you can't really see the ground through whatever is passing underneath you. It was like it was pixelated and I could see the ground, but it was more like it was, I don't describe it distorting my vision. So I could see what I needed to see was the ground, and I saw the ground, but it was moving.

9:40 As it moved below me. Okay, so it wasn't. It wasn't it was. It was like a very good camouflage that I can't wrap my brain around. And like I said, it wasn't it started. So if we're talking about how tall it was, like I said, I'm twenty five. My stand is twenty five, almost thirty feet up. It was ten feet below me. Oh wow, so the top of it was ten feet below you. Yeah, oh my goodness, that's really tall. What is that like close.

10:31 To fifteen or yeah? Yeah? Both? Okay, okay, have you ever seen the barbershoot footage? No? Okay, it'd be interest after this if you just you know, is this. The lady that was Is this the lady that was archery hunting and something about a football game? No? No, it's been on the Flash of Beauty channel, that Bigfoot channel. But it is very similar. It's another version of like the predator effect, which you already brought up right, But yeah, it's an actual video of it, and it'd be interesting if that's similar to what you saw.

11:15 Was the distortion any colors at all? See, that's no, it was the Okay, so you have to understand I'm colorblind. Well, I'm red green deficient. So I mean, you like, pink looks like gray and brown, green looks like brown. Red looks like brown. But it was I mean, if you think about the woods, I don't see like everyone's in the fall. Everyone's like, oh, look at the pretty colors and I'm like, yes' because I can't see them. But no, it was. It was a very good match for what was around it.

11:56 Okay, that's really interesting. Oh when you so, when the mute button effect kicked in, was there anything that was happening with the pressure in your ears at that time? No? No, Like I said, the thing is just like I'm so, I would do it. I would go. Out just to do firewood and I was so at home. I would like sit down on a log and fall asleep, and I didn't feel pressured. I didn't feel anything like that.

12:40 It was just there and it just everything stopped. Okay. Yeah, were there any any smells out of the ordinary at that time? No, No, it was it was. The normal fall would smell, that smell of decay that the leaves are falling and rotting, and like you're just used to, you know, that smell of being in the woods. In the fall. Yeah. Absolutely so. Due to the mute button effect being kicked in, I mean, you're not even hearing anything like the crunching of leaves like someone's walking under you.

13:22 Not a sound. Oh my goodness. I could hear myself breathe and that was it. And the crazy thing is I didn't. I didn't hunt until last year. I haven't gone out bow hunting until this past season, and I went out twice and that was at Yeah, it's I would go. I would go on five day hikes on my mountain bike. I was putting in three hundred miles hiking, just almost as much scouting, I mean my kids. I started taking my kids scouting when number three and four. No more scouting, no more setting up cameras. I wouldn't even go in the woods.

14:27 I bought firewood. I've never done that in my whole life because I just didn't want to go in the woods and harvest anything. It was and it's still intense just to I feel pressure when I go in the woods. I feel it now. I can't imagine living through what you live through, I mean, still not knowing. I guess, well, I guess that's a question for you. Do you feel then that what do you feel that was that you saw beneath you from your tree stand.

15:19 It's funny because. I got out of the woods that day and my mother in law owns the property that I hunt, and her and I are pretty tight, and I had said something to her about it, just because I needed to tell someone. I needed to say something to someone. And about a week went by and I got a phone call from the other guy that hunts the property. And he only hunts during. Rifle season, and he he's like, you know, your mother in law told me what happened. And I was like, I wasn't telling I told her that I didn't think she would say anything to anyone else. And he's like, there's a guy you need to check out. And I'm like, who's that? And he told me about Steve Isdell and I started watching him and yeah, it's uh, it's I'm I'm pretty sure it was a person of the woods.

16:39 That they're well more adapted than we are. And I don't think they're playing hide and seek like some of these people think, or they're some great ape with a I don't I don't think any of that thing. I think it's something that we don't understand, and that all these people that think it's a great ape and all this stuff, I think it's all crap. I think they're all full of crap. And if you look at what the natives of the country said, and there are people I don't know that for sure. But that's the best explanation I have that they have something that we don't, and probably we lost a long time ago.

17:35 Absolutely. So you're up there in the stand, you're archery hunting, so you have your boat. Did you have your bow in hand at this time? No, my bow was on the rest. Okay, gotcha. When you're experiencing this, did it ever come to mind like, oh, I should I pick up my bow and shoot this thing? Or was it a thing where it's like, I don't know what this is and I'm kind of just frozen. I was. I've seen so many things in the woods, things that you're that aren't supposed to be there, animals that aren't supposed to be there. I was going through a rolodex in my head of what could this be. I had no interest in even touching even touching my bow. I was in complete amazement and awestruck. It's unsettling because I mean, like, right now, I feel the way I felt that day, and I mean even even going out now, it's still I still feel the pressure, but I just I go out anyway. And I just got that back this year.

19:13 So that's a rough one. I have thousands of dollars of mountain bikes sitting in my in my garage right now that haven't been ridden in almost six years. Oh my goodness. Wow. Wow. This is the same area where you would have your kids go out and look for things or is this a different area? No? Same area. Okay, So after that this experience, did that change at all where you're like, you're go and look for the car and the woods kids, or how did well?

19:53 No, my kids, my kids. My kids are older now. Oh yeah, gotcha. That was when and they were really young, you know, six, seven, seven, eight, and now they're eighteen and nineteen. And it's funny because my oldest says, hey, Dad, let's go hunting. And I was like, and I'm like, what do you want to Let's go squirrel hunting? And I'm like okay, and I already know we're not going to squirrel hunting because he wants to talk about something, so it's not squirrel hunting.

20:36 And my youngest son, you put a gun in his hand, and he's the quietest kid. Kid can do. He used to be able to do turkey calls just with his mouth, it was, and he'd always get calls back. He could call in Turkey from anywhere. This year is the first year my oldest son came to me and he was like, I want to start archery. And I'm like, okay, I'm not worried about him going on the property. And he knows the story. He might think I'm a little goofy and crazy, but that's okay, And I'm glad that he wants to go out and archery hunt with me.

21:20 But there's no surprises if something happens, he knows what happened to me. Wow, very intense. And this so southwest Pennsylvania. And are we are keeping the county private for this correct? No, it's Westmoreland County. Okay, which I feel is very interesting. Looking at the map I have for if you go to big for Society podcast dot com, you can see the sighting map of people I've talked to. I mean, other people have experienced stuff in this county. I mean there was a class a visual of one in the early two thousands where screamed at a couple in this county and then some seventeen inch tracks that were found by a researcher in two thousand and three. So in just east of here, I mean, you've got really active at Laurel Ridge, and I mean the whole area in southwest Pennsylvania as crazy as you probably already know well.

22:32 And that's the thing is is like me and my buddies would go, like I said, before we go out five days and hike Laurel. We would hike Laurel and stay five days, never never even a thought. And the fact that I didn't have an idea of what it could be until I talked to my buddy Darryl and he put me on the steavee and I was just like, it makes more sense now. And like I said, I don't think it's some crazy gorilla running around the woods, because that's just silly talk.

23:15 After you had did anything else out of the ordinary happen in the time frame after you had this experience. Oh, I had, Like I said, I sat there and I didn't see it there. I saw a couple of squirrels. And where that stand is is a busy, busy section of woods for the dough to run through. I mean that's why my stand is there. It's busy and that time of day, so it had to be around three o'clock. It's a busy space. I have dough walking.

23:57 Through there. From noon to well until the evening. They're walking through because off to my right is an old defunct apple orchard, and to my left of that stand is a saddle where they is a saddle and valley where they bet down on the hillside. So I know that they're walking through there because they're going to get apples as soon as they as soon as they get up in the afternoon. I mean, I have this place dialed. I didn't see a deer, not a single one. I'm trying to think this.

24:39 Year when I hunted there, I didn't see a deer, not a single one out of that stand. Everywhere else on the property, every other stand I have, I saw deer, no problems. And I've shot so many deer out of this stand it's not even funny. So you start listening to Steve is Dahl and getting plugged into that community where you're hearing a lot of encounters from hunters and that people all over the place. Did you. Sometimes people will get to the point where they will start kind of looking in areas around where their encounter happened in saying like, I wonder if other people have experienced things like I have. Have you have you started looking into things like that or you're just kind of trying to figure out things for yourself.

25:30 No, I haven't really been looking for other people's experiences. Like I said, this is like maybe the fifth time I've told the story. There's only a couple people that I've told the story to. I didn't want to put myself on blast. And as for going out, I don't know if you were getting at me looking for it, but no, I have no interest in looking for it because. That feeling. That I get when I go in that in the woods, now, that pressure, I don't want to. I don't I don't want anyone to feel that. My son understands that I'm not going to go and not hunt my property that I've been hunting for I don't even know how long, and I'm not going to give that up. So do I hunt that stand deep in the woods. Not so much.

26:46 Might be sitting on the edge of a field. Am I walking a mile and a half two miles in mm hmm, maybe five hundred yards? But it's baby steps and I'm working at it. It's incredible stuff to think fifteen the max of fifteen foot potentially and predator cloaking type figure that can also control the sound around the area. And to hear something like that really really makes really makes you think about what could potentially be out in the woods.

27:43 And the thing is, there was no bob to it. It was just a glide. So I saw the motion and I saw the shape, but there was no. You know when you walk, you bob. There was no bob. It was just a glide. And I watched, I watched a distort nature. Is it moved up the rise. Okay, so as you're watching it go up the rise, let's say you might have a tree there, and as it walks and glides in front of it, the tree becomes kind of wavy or.

28:34 Yeah, oh yeah, like almost like a like a wavy pixelation. And the funny thing. Is is I'm at a plateau that standards on a plateau, and thirty yards off, maybe about thirty thirty five yards, the plateau bumps up. Again, that's the rise. When it got to the top of that rise, it was it would have been my height or taller. And I'm like, I said, twenty five thirty feet up in the air, and it just brews through and once I couldn't see it anymore. Like I said, the mut button was off and it was all at once. It wasn't like it just came in. It didn't just come in and it was it boomed.

29:52 Everything happened. There's squirrels running around again, there's chipmunks making that god awful noise that they make. I don't have an explanation for it, and I think that for a long time that bothered me. And sometimes you can't. You don't have an explanation, and that's okay. I mean, yeah, you go from just thinking about your situation where you've spent years in the woods, you know everything that's there, you know it blindfolded, and how to take care of yourself, and then something comes into the place that you thought you knew everything about, and I mean, you are like totally trained for survival. But then there's this un seeable figure that's fifteen feet tall and you don't know how much strength it really has, but it can at least change what you hear and what you see, which is crazy to think about.

31:04 I wouldn't say I'm set up for survival more like redneck survival. Gotcha, yeah, which I think is pretty cool stuff. Let's say there's hunters or outdoors outdoorsmen that are watching this and they've experienced something similar, Do you have anything that you would say to them, specifically as someone who has lived through an event like this, I. Think get out in the woods a lot sooner than I did, like this year. It's funny because before I got on the call with you, I was down in my garage working on one of my mountain bikes because I it was something I loved. It was something and that's the thing is it was something.

31:58 I loved and I and it's not just those woods. It's everywhere I go. I go into the woods, I still feel that pressure. If I'm with other people, it's not as pronounced. I think that's a group mentality or safety in numbers or whatever primal coping mechanism that we have. I think when I'm with a group of people, it's or even one other person. I started hiking again last year, well not even last year. I got a new dog and we went out for a hike. And again it's a place that twenty minutes from my house. I've been working and doing mountain bike trail maintenance there.

33:02 Okay, so my oldest. Son is twenty well about to be twenty, so probably seventeen years I've been doing mountain bike trail maintenance there and not a lot of people. I mean, there's a rail, there's a rail to trail there, but then there's mountain bike trails up on the hillside. And I have. Pictures of my kids doing trail work when they were three and four, learning how to divert water off a trail. And that's how much I spent time there. Is my kids were there, we would go and chap chop Japanese not lead because it's such an invasive species. And I went for a hype there with my dog, and I still felt the pressure, and see would look someplace. I would look there too, and I don't know if it was still the same pressure.

34:09 I don't know. I don't know if that's my primal paranoia of to be honest at I don't believe in evolution, but I mean, I still think we had senses that we still don't even understand to this day, and we have abilities that we don't understand or some people can tap into. And I think there's been a lot of there's been a lot of I'm trying to think how to say this stigmatism put on people who see the in the woods that keep them away from it. And I think it's all by design. You'll meet someone, especially like there was there was a There was a cabin I used to go to in West Virginia out in the middle of freaking nowhere, down the logging roads that hasn't been used in thirty years. And the people you meet back there, they know things that no one else knows. They hear things that no one else hear, see things no one else sees. They're not hooked up to this system that

35:41 does away and poo Poo's the idea of spirituality, whether it be you know, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, whatever the ism. There's people have a far better life than we do because you hear these people, these freaking dummies from the city going, oh, go out and touch grass, you know what. I touch grass all the time. I touch grass all the time. I was touching the tree when this happened to me. I'm in the woods. This stuff isn't supposed to happen. It did, it did, And I let that pressure keep me out. And if someone does experience something like this or whatever, it is don't let the pressure push you out, push your way back in. Because now I'm I'm having to learn it all over again. I'm gonna have to go out and deal with it no matter.

36:55 Where I go. So yeah, if someone experiences this and they feel that pressure, take. A deep breath and go back in. If it's if I would imagine if it gets really if it's something that's really bad, you'll know. I didn't feel threatened. I just felt. The only way I can describe it as pressure is the only way I can describe it. It's that. It's like a pushing down of my confidence in the woods.

37:44 And. I let that keep me out and I'm done with that. I'm done without keeping me out. I still I don't have Like I said, it's not fear. It's just that. Uncommon, unnatural pressure. Sorry if you hear my dog snoring, but that's what it is. And I need to I know for myself, I need to get back. I need to go and run my chainsaw. I need to go and run my mountain like I need to go and sit in my tree stand. I need to go and go for a hike or snowshoeing or whatever. God, I'm supposed to do in the woods, because I know that's where I'm the most comfortable. You put me in a city I give. I look around and think everybody's a criminal, and I want to leave. I go a little bit down twenty eight and going towards Pittsburgh, and I'm likeugh.

38:52 My heart rate goes out, my blood pressure goes out, because I don't want to deal with these I'd rather be idea, I'd rather be in the woods. And I let this situation rob me of that, and I'm not gonna let that happen anymore. Do you have any thoughts about why it may be a good or a bad idea to share an experience, to share an experience like this, what happened to you?

39:36 Well, everybody already knows I'm crazy, and it's. This is just a different extent to it. I don't really care what people think, to be honest, if they believe me, they believe me. If they don't, they don't. I guarantee they never spend as much time in the woods sys that I have. I was always open minded it, and I you know it was I was always open minded to the idea that there are things that we don't know about and shoot, I started watching Steve Isdah and then migrated to David Politi's and just the things that he on the whole topic of Bigfoot and him going to well, I can't even think of what it was called travel Bigfoot is his book where he spent time with natives them telling him about it. And now we got people walking around in the woods going woo woo and banging on trees. If they just shut up for a minute and listen to the people that have been here forever.

40:56 And if what is it called? Is it Olkhom's raisor And I think the easiest answer is listening to the people. Listening to the people that have been in the woods do commune with nature? Now? So I think there's a lot of propaganda out there just to make it into this monkey man walking around the woods. Yes one, because they don't want if we understood what it was, we would see what we could have been or could be or what they've taken from us.

41:53 Oh, that's I've never considered that theory before. That is really intense, Paul. I'm gonna be thinking about that for a while. Yeah, that is that is a way to look at it, for sure. Well, it's funny because my son, my oldest son especially, I mean, he grew up with me, so I mean, you could call me, you can call me a lot of things. But I pay attention to the stuff that's going on around me, and a lot of people don't. People don't look up. People never look up. And he said to me the one day and we were just just general conversation. He goes, yeah, you know, I've been reading a lot about my pioneal glend And I was like, oh, okay, cool. He goes, did you know?

42:52 And I was like, don't say anything stupid to me. He's like, did you know floride? I was like, did you know? You never had floride as a kid. And he goes, what do you mean? And I was like you never had floride as a kid and he's like why And I was like, because floride falsifies your pineal gland. And he's like, well, how do you know about that? And I was like, running, how do you think you know about it? I think we're kept dumb and some people love it, love it. They love to believe everything that they're told. The TV tells him something, Hey, look there's a monkey in the woods. The TV told me, so, Hey, how about stop looking at the TV.

43:47 And go in the woods because there's no monkeys out there. Well, and central Pennsylvania there was when they had that truck accident, but there's no monkey man running around the woods. Go in the woods. Stop watching the TV. Stop letting other people tell you what to believe. And that's why. I I might not be the smartest person in the world. I'm pretty sure I'm not the smartest person in the world. But I know every day people are programmed by the TV and the headlines and they never look into it.

44:36 Paul, thank you so much for coming on sharing something that happens to you that you haven't shared too many people before. And I think it's important to hear discussions like this and for you know, hunters outdoorsmen to realize that it's okay to share things that happen to them out in the world that they might not be comfortable sharing. But I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you had come to the show to talk about today. Yeah, thank you so much for coming on the show today. Paul. If you ever experience anything else, please feel free to reach out and I'd love to hear.

45:21 About it, all right, cool, Jeremiah. Thanks. Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be even better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you just got to be there. We'll leave it that more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this and yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

46:54 It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a tick, get head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the code bsp like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two day pass for the price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can can get a little help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National Park ranger forestreet worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

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