April 26, 2026

Arkansas Crystal Mine Bigfoot Case: 10-Foot Creature, Tracks & Lights

Arkansas Crystal Mine Bigfoot Case: 10-Foot Creature, Tracks & Lights
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Season 1

A quiet crystal mine near Mena became the center of one of the most intense Bigfoot cases we’ve covered. Orville and Cheryl Murphy of Board Camp Crystal Mine share years of encounters involving a towering 10–12 foot creature seen at close range, 20-inch footprints, rocks thrown from the woods, glowing orbs, mysterious beams of light, and guests witnessing activity for themselves. This Arkansas hotspot has drawn investigators, travelers, and curious listeners who want to know what is really happening in those trees.



Resources


Website: https://boardcampcrystalmine.com/crystal2/
Email: boardcampcrystalmine@gmail.com

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/boardcamp.arkansas/



Books:


Beams (Book 1 & Book 2)
https://www.amazon.com/BEAMS-detailed-account-strange-Crystal-ebook/dp/B076RGKLKL?ref_=ast_author_dp&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/BEAMS-detailed-account-strange-Crystal-ebook/dp/B08V9CJYY9?ref_=ast_author_dp&th=1&psc=1




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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all.

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Right, Big for Society, Welcome back to another episode of

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the show. Today we'll be talking to Orville and Cheryl

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Murphy and they are the owners of the board camp

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Crystal Mind down there just outside of I believe Mina, Arkansas,

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and this institution has been talked about on a member's

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episode of the show, so you may have heard it.

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And there's some really interesting thing things that happen at

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this mine, especially regarding Bigfoot. So welcome to the show.

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Guys. How are you doing today?

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We're doing great, Thank you.

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And how about yourself? Cheryl?

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Oh? Yes, absolutely, thank you for having.

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Us absolutely, can you, Orville, would you mind taking a

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minute and sharing what what exactly Board Camp Crystal Mind

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is and Cheryl feel free to fill in anything else

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you'd like after him.

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Well, in a nutshell, we we purchased the property we're

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going to put in a campground, and we found crystals.

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Then the the natives came up and said, please don't

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destroy the land. It's special. So then we started working

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with the native tribes and and that's when and then

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things kind of started to happen. We started seeing things.

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The tribes would come out, they blessed the ground, and

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they would leave offerings for the star people and the

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forest people, and we were kind of impressed by that.

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We didn't see anything at the time, but it didn't

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take long after that where things started to open up

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and we can now we just consider ourselves the gatekeepers.

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Prior to things started happening here, and I'll give you

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a timeline, but prior to all of this, we were

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not quote believers. You know. We heard plenty of stories

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like everybody else, saw a few things on TV, you know,

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but paranormal for us was just on TV. And anyway, we,

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like Orville said, we bought the land, found the crystals,

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developed the crystal mind, and we didn't want to use

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heavy equipment had this great big mining things going on,

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so we just wanted to have like a public dig site,

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which is pretty common in our area of Arkansas because

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there the Washita Mountains is full of quartz crystals as

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just the normal geological formation. So we opened the mind

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of the public in twenty twelve, and like Gorville said,

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we were you know, visited by some of our natives friends,

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and you know, we decided We've always been conservative people

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as far as you know, we want to take care

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of the land and the earth, and we love people.

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We wanted, you know, families to just be able to

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come out dig for their own crystals. It's like a

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treasure hunt. It's lots of fun, you know, especially for

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the kids. And so from twenty twelve to twenty seventeen

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that was our normal life. And then on February eighteenth

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of twenty seventeen, that evening, our son Josh came to

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visit us for the first time and we stepped outside

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to look at the beautiful stars. And anyway, we have

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about fifty acres of property, so we've got some room

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here and We were standing just out behind our house

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looking at the stars, and on the next hill over

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would you say, what about five hundred feet orval about

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five hundred feet away. All of a sudden we saw

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these three huge white beams of light and they seemed

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to originate at the ground level on top of that

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next hill over there and shoot up into the sky

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like three hundred feet into the air. It was like

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just so flabbergastings, like astonishing. We were just like gawking,

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like what what are those beams? And how did are

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they there? And we couldn't hear any engines like helicopters,

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airplanes flying over anything like that that could manifest the beams.

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And the beams only lasted about eight to ten seconds,

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so we were not even able to get like, you know,

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or even think to grab our cell phone to take

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a picture. But anyway, everything went black and about eight

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to ten seconds we couldn't hear anything, no engines. You know,

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We're thinking, who's on our property with these spotlights? You know,

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it's ridiculous. They need a great, big, you know, truck

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to do that, and we would know, we know when

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people are on our property out here in the country.

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It's easy to you know, hear and keep track dogs

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and all that.

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Right.

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So anyway, the next day, Orville and I walked up

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to the top of the hill and our son Josh too,

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and we were thinking, well, maybe we'll find footprints or

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tire tracks, but we did not find that. But what

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we did find was quite astonishing. We found all the

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metal objects were affected. So we had metal fence posts

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up there and they were leaning and we're like, what

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what would do that? And then we had a great

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big metal sign that we had up there on the

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top of the hill, and we had to post some things,

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you know, to have ournment government mining license, so we

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had some things posted on that sign and the whole

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sign was toppled over and we couldn't believe it, like

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someone pushed it over or something. And Orville even welded

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legs to it to ensure that the wind wouldn't topple

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it over. So in five years that sign just stood

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there and now we find it toppled over and we

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can't figure this out. This is weird. And so anyway,

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we came back to the house and who were we

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going to call. We didn't have Ghostbuster's phone number at

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the time. So we called a friend who told us

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about mofon the mutual UFO network, and she's all excited

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when we described our sighting of the beams the night before,

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and she goes, you had a sighting, you had a sighting.

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You need to report this to move on and we're like,

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move on, what's that? You know, we didn't follow all

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this UFO stuff. So anyway, she talked us into it.

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You know, we're kind of rolling our eyes, like, oh,

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come on, UFO. I mean, we can't explain what was

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the cause of these amazing beams, but you know UFO.

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And but anyway, we went ahead and called mofon and

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they were extremely interested in coming to do an on

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site investigation on our property, and especially because we had

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the physical evidence left behind, which was all the metal

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objects were affected. So we're like, sure, you can come,

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and so they sent a group from Marcusas and they

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also sent some of their top investigators from the main organization.

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So they told us when they got here that only

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three percent of people who have sightings actually have physical

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evidence left behind. So that's what really intrigued them. They

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don't get to go out many places and find physical evidence,

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which some of that might be like crop circles or

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tree tops mown down. And anyway, they came out with

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what they called goss meters GAUSS, and those little meters

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they turn them on, they put them up to a

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metal object and it measures the electromagnetic field that the

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metal object might emit. So they did that to the

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fence posts that were leaning, and they did it to

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the big sign metal sign that had toppled over, and

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they were getting extraordinarily high electromagnetic readings off these metal objects.

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And these move On people are all excited to kind

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of stand there scratching our heads. But they're all excited

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because they hardly ever get physical evidence. So anyway, they

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asked the three of us about the beams and are sighting,

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and they said, you know those beams, those three beams,

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did they like when they shot up into the night sky.

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Did they appear to like dissipate into the night sky

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like spotlights or were they flat across the top? And

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the three of us, you know, even though we only

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witnessed it like eight to ten seconds, we all agreed, yeah,

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you know what, they were flat across the top. So

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the move on people proceeded to tell us they believed

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a craft actually came over our property, hovered, sent the

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beams down to the ground, and they were possibly harvesting

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crystal energy out of our Crystal Mind. And of course,

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you know, we're pretty shocked to hear this from these people.

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I mean, they're very very nice and very professional and educated,

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and yet they're telling us this story. Right, So anyway,

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we you know, I mean, what can we do? Right,

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We shrugged our shoulders and just thought, okay, well we'll

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go on with our lives. And after that, actually, the

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Travel Channel at that time they were hosting Josh Gates

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show Expedition Unknown, and Josh Gates was in the middle

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of filming in twenty seventeen the Hunt for Extra Terrestrials,

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so he'd gone to England, he'd gone to Chile, and

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he heard about our case through Muffon and they contacted

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us to come out and film, and so they did,

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and we were very blessed that they included us in

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their five part mini series about Expedition Unknown Hunt for Extraterrestrials.

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So anyway, if you go to our website board Campcrystalmind

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dot com, at the top it says see us on TV,

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and you can watch that episode, and a company called

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Quest pulled our ten minutes out of the forty five

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minute episode, so it's all there together, our story on

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Expedition Unknown. And that was twenty seventeen. And then since then,

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not only have we seen other weird lights, we've witnessed

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orbs in the woods. We've witnessed other beams of light,

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not as big and brilliant as the three original beams

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that we saw. But then our native friends kept coming

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out and we're walking with them through our woods and

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they're showing as signs of Bigfoot or sasquatch presence. And

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then we began to have what you we can only

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describe as interactions with them. So anyway, Orville, do you

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want to take over from there? Orville had the most

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interactions with the Bigfoot, and I'll let him take it

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from here.

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I don't talk much. I'm kind of a straightforward guy.

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He asked me a question, you get a direct answer,

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and that's about it. But I was a hazard mitigation

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technical specialist for Homeland Security and retired and found out

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that none of this stuff is in a government handbook.

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So when we were out with the natives, they were

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chanting and I'm following them and just letting them do

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their thing. I'm basically mimicking and had approximately a ten

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or twelve foot squatch come right up out of a

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ravine and we were no more than fifty feet away

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from him, and of course I kept my composure by

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losing it. But that was the first time that I

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saw one and we actually got to make eye contact.

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And I've had eye contact one other time, but I've

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had six sightings where I did not make eye contact.

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But you can actually see without doubt something moving through

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the woods and you can tell it's a squatch, and

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you could tell from the way they walk, the way

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they act. I've seen people try to describe to me that, oh,

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sasquatch is a big monster in the woods, and they're not.

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They're one of the most graceful creatures you've ever seen.

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They they work well with the woods.

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Orville.

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That is fascinating. I have a few questions for you

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regarding that. So, okay, about your first sighting. So you

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said that the that you had your I'm going to

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use your terminologies native friends, And are these individuals from

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the area specifically, yes, Okay, they.

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Were choctaws and Cherokee, Chickasaw Chickasaw. I mean, they were

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just they came out to do a blessing and so

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they're like, just follow us and do what we say.

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And I'm like, oh, you're going to draw them in,

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and they said, we can't do that. We just communicate

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and it's up to them. And they called them the

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forest people. But so, like I said, when I first

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made eye contact, the first thing I realized is you

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cannot unsee. That's it you. When you see it, You're

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hooked and he's you for the rest of your life

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and there's no going back, there's no you know, oh,

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what was that really? Now you know exactly what it

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is and there aren't any doubts.

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Wow, that is amazing.

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Can you describe what they were doing specifically? And you

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were doing as well? Before you had the sighting of

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the twelve foot Sasquatch.

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The natives were walking and there were three spiritual leaders

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in the front and approximately thirty other people in the back,

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and everybody's chanting and as they're walking, they have their

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heads down a little bit and they kind of got

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the body sway thing going. You know, everybody is in

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like perfect harmony and all of a sudden, everybody just

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came to a dead stop because we're in two rows,

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and everybody came to a dead stop and just faced

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each other and put their heads down. There was no

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oh everybody stopped. No, it's just everybody already knew. And

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I mean I'm looking around, going what why do we stop?

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You know? And of course they're chanting in a language

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I don't understand, but I'm trying to mimic the words.

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And I, like I said, when he came up out

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of the ravine, he looked like he was on an escalator.

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There was just no effort whatsoever. And a lot of

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people say, oh, what did he look like? And to me,

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if you've ever seen the show Harry and the Henderson's okay,

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to me, that's about as close as you're going to get.

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You could see facial expressions, you can see age, you

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can see you know, in their eyes. There, the way

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they stand, the way they lean. I mean, there's there,

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there's transmitting so much energy and so much information. And

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I mean I'm trying to find words to express and

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I don't think there's adequate words to do it.

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Wow, it's it's fascinating. I can tell it really affected you,

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just because you almost become a different individual when you

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start talking about it. It's it's incredible how it infected,

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how it affected you about the specific chanting that they

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were doing and that you were doing as well. Was

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it a repeated word or phrase over and over or

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did it?

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Yeah, repeated phrases okay, and in the tone the tone

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stayed the same. And later when I asked the spiritual leaders,

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I said, so, why doing this? And he goes, when

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we chant, we chant at a certain frequency and then

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as we feel we change that frequency. So we said,

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the spiritual leaders are actually you know, leading with the tones,

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but everybody behind them is the amplifier. And of course

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I'm brand new to everything, so I'm going okay, because

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I don't understand. But this was years ago. And now

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every time things happen and whatever, you get closer and

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closer and closer. And people say, oh, do you get

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closer to the truth. No, you know the truth, You

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just get closer to your destination.

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Wow, what you think the truth is? Orville?

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The truth is they're there. I truly believe and that

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they're spiritual creatures. And you know, no one's going to

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convince me different until one walks up to me and

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says no. But when we had the one come up

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out of the ravine, when he left, he turned his

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head just a little bit because he ain't got no shoulders,

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so he turned his head a little bit. And then

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I saw him lean, And the only way someone's going

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to lean is if they're a biped. And after that

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he was gone. I didn't see disappear. I didn't see,

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you know, him run off or anything. It just he

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was there and then he wasn't there. But I couldn't

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explain while he was gone.

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Okay, did it did it have any emotion in its

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face during the time you were able to see it?

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Yes? Absolutely, And like I said, that was the first

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time I made eye contact, and the second time I

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made eye contact the same thing. You can see the expression.

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They say the eyes are you know, the window to

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the soul. But when you look at their eyes and

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you can see, I mean we were we were within

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seventy five feet, so that's not like way across the field.

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I mean I could have hit him with a walnut,

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you know. But the you could see in their face,

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the way the cheeks moved, the way they their eyebrows

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go up and down the way he blinked, and all

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of this is happening within about twenty seconds, and twenty

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seconds is a lifetime when inside you're screaming and outside

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your pointing.

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Since that time, that was really Orville's first real experience,

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like a close up type thing, and we have had

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so many interactions as far as now, I've had two sightings,

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so to speak. That's all the way I describe it,

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but Orville has had more. But number one, if you

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go to Google and you look up signs of Bigfoot,

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like the tree arches, the stacks of logs, the rock throwing,

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we have experienced all of that, and it's amazing they've

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never but but I always say to people, we've been

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startled by some like even the rock throwing, but they've

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never thrown rocks at us. But they've thrown them in

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our direction when we're walking in the path, and I

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think it's to get our attention. Maybe it's certain does,

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but we've also had amazing other interactions. At this point,

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I mean, this started in twenty seventeen, so we're almost

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you know, we're nine years now, and we we still

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have interaction, which is amazing. We have come to know

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them as very helpful. Like for example, I lose my

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car keys outside and I'm looking around, can't find them,

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and all of a sudden they appear on my front porch.

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So you know, it's like, no, I didn't even go

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on the front porch to lose them, you know, I

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know was it was. I consider it them. They have

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given us crystal gifts. And I was going to say,

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we started our unexplained tours, which if you go on

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our website you'll read about. We decided we were on

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Josh Gates show, right, So now here we are, we're

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public with this. What are people going to think of us?

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You know, are local friends and our family. We opened

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up a can of worms here and so we started

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our unexplained tours so the public would have an opportunity

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to come to our property, sit with us a couple

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three hours and in the dark and watch the sky,

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watch the woods. And at this point nine years later,

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hundreds of people have had sightings or some kind of experience.

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And like I said earlier, we've had our own private

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experiences too. Get up in the morning and walk in

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the kitchen to get some coffee and there's a beautiful

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crystal in the middle of our dining room table. It's like,

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what where did that come from? I believe they left

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it for us. Many many of our guests have received

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crystals that just magically appeared on our tours. And we

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really believe at this point that bigfoot sasquatch ets, whatever

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they are, are probably interdimensional beings and for whatever reason,

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they're able to come into our dimension and manifest to us.

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And we are both really Christian believers. We were raised

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in church and the whole bit and all the stories

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of angels appearing to people that we hear over the years,

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and I've met quite a few people that actually claim

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they saw their guardian angel because they had no other explanation.

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It was like a humanoid person in a white robe

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or white clothes or whatever that spoke to them, that interacted.

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And for example, one of my sons was in a

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bad car accident and somebody wearing total white walked up

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to the car and said you're going to be fine

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and then left. You know, how do you explain that

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kind of stuff? And like I said, I've met other

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people who have had the same experience angels. Okay, where

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do they come from, you know, like they just manifest

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and then disappeared. And this is kind of the same

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type of thing that we've witnessed with the Sasquatch. If

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we didn't see them actually their bodies, they left us

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these crystal gifts during our tours. They just appear or

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they fall and they hit the floor of the building

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where we have our tours, and it happens pretty frequently.

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It's amazing, and we consider the Sasquatch beings at this

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point as being very loving and kind to us. They've

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proven that to us and they've interacted to that extent,

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and so, I don't know, we're just amazed. We're very blessed,

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and we love it when we have guests who come

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on our tours and are able to experience that too.

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And we can't guarantee if anyone's going to see or

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experience anything, but you know, at least it's an opportunity.

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And i'd say we have we're we have about a

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seventy to eighty percent experience rate of something.

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Oh my goodness.

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And what's nice do is we have a lot more

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than just sightings. We found a large cedar tree, a

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dead one laid across the road with footprints, and we

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casted the prince and they were twenty inch prints and

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I had to get the tractor to get the tree

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off the road, and that tree had been drug probably

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one hundred hundred and fifty feet away.

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That's wild, Cheryl. I want to address something you said

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earlier a few minutes ago with the crystals appearing out

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of nowhere. So I've talked to definitely one attendee of

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your Crystal Mind maybe too, and both both have said

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the same thing where there was literally a crystal that

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appeared out of nowhere, and sometimes I think even dropped

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down from nowhere and they're like, oh, there's one right there.

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So this is a thing that people are experiencing and

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not just like something that sharel is saying, like, there

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are multiple people that are reporting this.

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Yes, it's amazing, and like I said, we ended up

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calling it gifting. They're gifting us and our guests, and

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obviously we can't guarantee that this is going to happen

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at all of our tours, but like I said, we

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are having like a seventy to eighty percent experience rate

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that that includes some of that gifting of the crystals.

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But it's also other things like, you know, the grunts,

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the growls, the sounds, you know. But when it comes

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to the manifestation of something like the crystals, it is amazing,

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you know. And again to me, it proves that these

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beings they have like a personality or a loving way

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about them that they like to please us as humans.

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And it's amazing, it really is.

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And I think a lot of times the young ones,

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not the babies, because they're pretty much off limits. They're

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not going to let us around them. But one time

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we had a very heavy picnic table on our back

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porch and it was gone, so I go off looking

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for it. There's no dragon marks or anything, and then

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there's a road going down the hill towards the stage,

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and then I noticed there's one leg of the table

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being drug on the ground, and then two legs, and

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then later further down the hill there's all four legs.

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And then we found the table and it's like they

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picked it up and carried it. One did, probably, and

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the further along he got. It's like, I think, I

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bid off more table than I can chew, and it

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was gotten heavier, and then he ended up dragging it.

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So I go down there. I see the table. I

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got my cell phone. I'm trying to get a picture

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of it, and it's just swarmed with orbs, just little

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lights all around it. And all of our cats are

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sitting on the table like, well, what does that mean?

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I don't have the faintest idea.

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So the Orville you did you see the orbs with

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your naked eye? Or this was when you're taking picture?

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Yes, okay, that's why I hurried.

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Up and took the picture right right. Oh my god.

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On the cats are like, hey, check this out. We

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were riding on the table whatever. You know.

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Our two guests have definitely seen flashes of light lights. Actually,

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they seem like they're coming out of the ground, like

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someone's got a flashlight at ground level and shines it up.

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And some of these are flashes, and some will stay

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on more like a few seconds. Rock stacks. We walk

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on our woods and we see rocks stacked up, and

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we've even had that happen on our picnic table out

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back of our house.

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But we used the picnic tables as gifting tables. We

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set them up out in the woods and we left

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a jar peanut butter one time on the table and

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the jar peanut butter was gone. So it's like, oh,

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did squatch eat dake it? Did an animal get it?

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You know? Nowhere in Arkansas, you know, I petted a

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wet possum on the back porch once, thinking it was

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a cat. But the uh, then all of a sudden,

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like four days later, here's the empty peanut butter contained

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or plastic and it's got crystals and pine cones in it.

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And it was sitting on the table where we had

458
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left it. And they're like, oh, thank you for the

459
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:14.519
peanut butter. We'll give you some pine cones and crystals

460
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:17.839
to pay for it. So we brought the more peanut butter.

461
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.119
That is fascinating. Was it full to the top or

462
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:24.039
how full was it?

463
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:28.759
I had the lid on it, and when they brought

464
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:32.960
it back it was probably about half full. Because everybody

465
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.839
knows that peanut butter ain't worth that much, you know,

466
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:42.119
but we were just amazed that to find the jar

467
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:46.519
with pine cones and crystals in it, So obviously they

468
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:52.119
thought that that was valuable to them and would probably

469
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:55.279
be valuable to us. Thanking this for the peanut butter.

470
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:03.759
That it's absolutely fascinating. So your first sighting Orville was

471
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.480
fifty feet away, correct around there?

472
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:07.079
Yes?

473
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:11.279
Has that been the closest you think that you've gotten

474
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:13.880
to a Sasquatch on the property or have they?

475
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.440
Yeah? That's yeah, that's it.

476
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:19.440
So gotcha? Gotcha?

477
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:24.640
What was the reaction of the u of your native

478
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:26.759
friends that were around you at that time when they

479
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.359
also saw what was coming up through a.

480
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.720
Few I means to them it was nothing. I mean,

481
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:34.680
have you ever been at the airport and looked up

482
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:39.559
into an airplane go by? You know that that's yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

483
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.160
an airplane, you know. But you know I'm sitting there

484
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:48.880
going ah, the plane to blame, and they're like, it's cool.

485
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:53.200
You know, it's like this is expected, this is what happens.

486
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.400
This is the way things are supposed to be.

487
00:32:58.880 --> 00:32:59.319
Wow.

488
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:07.319
So the area that you're at, it's fifty acres, right, guys, yeah?

489
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:07.960
Approximately.

490
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.519
Are your neighbors around the area also experiencing things like

491
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:15.279
this or do you think this is limited to this

492
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.000
this fifty acre area you have for some reason?

493
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:27.200
No, there we our neighbors have seen things, they talked

494
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:31.000
about orbs and all this. But we're in an area

495
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:35.799
that has a lot of old timey families, and when

496
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:39.359
you have that, they're like, don't use my name, but

497
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.880
let me tell you what I saw. We've had many

498
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:49.000
people telling stories from when they were children or you know,

499
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:55.680
my grandma used to tell me about the you know,

500
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.640
Sasquatch that sat on a rock by the creek when

501
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:03.240
she as a little girl. So we're hearing these stories

502
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:09.119
that we're absolutely the newcomers do something that's been here forever.

503
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.039
Local people are a little shy, and I don't blame them,

504
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.960
you know, they kind of keep to themselves. And then

505
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:24.559
when we came on the scene here in this small

506
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:30.400
town and went public with our story, then we started

507
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:34.960
to have more locals even attend our tour or come forward,

508
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.000
you know, call us on the phone and go, wow,

509
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.360
you know, we heard your story and we've seen things too.

510
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:42.320
But a lot of people, you know, they don't want

511
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.440
to go public with that, and we don't blame them,

512
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:49.360
you know, because there's a lot of ridicule. Of course, understandably,

513
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.760
you know by the unbelievers. We used to be unbelievers.

514
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:54.519
We get it, you know.

515
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:59.519
Sure, sure, can you think of a time maybe you

516
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:03.679
could share of when a person that was you know,

517
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:08.280
coming to your crystal mind, and it took the tour

518
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.199
looked around that they had an interaction.

519
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:12.639
With a big foot.

520
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:16.079
Can you think of any of those experiences?

521
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:19.960
Yes, we've I mean, I consider for the next four

522
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:26.679
hours and do that. We were walking up the hill,

523
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:30.119
so it's me taking people on a tour up the

524
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:37.039
hill and there's three of us and a rock probably

525
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:43.079
the size of a bowling ball, came past us and

526
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:48.920
it was probably about I guess, three feet off the

527
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:54.000
ground when it went by, and when it hit, you know,

528
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.440
into the woods, you could hear it bounce on off

529
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:59.679
of trees and everything. And there's a meadow to the

530
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:03.199
left of us, so we're looking to the left. There's

531
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:06.519
nobody standing out there because nobody could throw a rock

532
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.760
that far. Plus the rock didn't go down. The rock

533
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:14.920
came across straight, just like it was sliding down a

534
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:20.000
piece of string. And so two of us went up

535
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:24.000
the hill and continued the tur and one person decided

536
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.559
it'd be best if they go back, so they didn't

537
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.400
get to finish the tur But while we were up there,

538
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:38.000
we heard hand clapping, foot stomping, We even heard like

539
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:45.239
native chanting, but it was in the distance, so They

540
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:49.199
were definitely the squatches were definitely up there. And we've

541
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.800
had many, many times where we've been up on the

542
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:57.159
hill and you'll hear a rock drop, you hear a

543
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:01.400
limb break. And the first thing we determined when we

544
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.880
started seeing all this stuff is nobody has the right

545
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:11.960
to own a phenomenon. Everything that happened here belongs to

546
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.320
the people of the earth. That's why we opened it

547
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:17.159
up and said, you know, we're not going to close

548
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:21.920
this down and hide it. I believe that people are

549
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:27.679
just as much, you know, part of this. You know,

550
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.440
everybody on the earth has a chance to experience it.

551
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.239
The more we share together, like you know, I'm sure

552
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.559
your listeners and many people who have participated in your

553
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.599
podcasts in the past, you know, the more we share

554
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:44.440
our stories, you know, we're learning and we want to

555
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.960
learn more. You know, our learning is rather limited in

556
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:52.239
our human selves in the third dimension. But you know

557
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.679
we're excited. We're anxious to learn more, we're anxious to

558
00:37:55.760 --> 00:38:01.360
share with each other, and we just appreciate this opportunity

559
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.440
that we're able to share today with you. Jeremiah, thank you.

560
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.599
I have nothing to prove. I know what I saw,

561
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:13.679
but the h I get the biggest kick out of

562
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:18.679
when people show up here and tell me their experiences

563
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:22.519
and then have one while they're here. Yeah, and to me,

564
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:24.760
that is just that that's the biggest thing ever.

565
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:27.840
Absolutely.

566
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.800
Are there times when people are having visual sightings as

567
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.920
you had yourself Orville.

568
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:38.840
Yes, and you know they tell me about them. But

569
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:45.079
a lot of times, once or twice you'll hear about,

570
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.559
oh I saw something on my own. But most of

571
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.840
the time, when there's a sighting, and this is what

572
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.639
I really love. When there's a sighting, there's usually three

573
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:57.599
or four people there who all see it at the

574
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:01.519
same time. Oh yeah, So it's not one person saying,

575
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:04.559
oh I felt this or I felt that or I

576
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:08.079
saw it. Isn't it When when you have four or

577
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:12.079
five people all seeing it at the same time, there's

578
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:13.519
a lot of credibility there.

579
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.400
I agree. Yeah.

580
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:22.119
Do you feel like there's ever been any communication between

581
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:26.039
yourselves and the Sasquatch on the property.

582
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:31.199
Yes, And here's how I tried to communicate with them,

583
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:33.519
and they were the ones that sort of set it up.

584
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.840
I really believe by talking to the natives that the

585
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.239
symbols in the trees. We have trees that have some

586
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:48.360
weird bent limbs, and we have one limb that's like

587
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:56.119
a box. It's just like four nineties, and these shapes

588
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:59.920
mean something to them, so I don't know what it is.

589
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.159
So I took a bunch of pieces of pipe, and

590
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.760
I was working on a project down with the plumbing,

591
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:12.760
and I have a little toy thing that I was

592
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:17.519
playing with the dog with. Anyway, I get up to

593
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.280
the house, come back the next morning, and those pieces

594
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:26.039
of pipe are arranged in a certain shape, and the

595
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:30.840
toy is missing. The dog's toy. So I walk up

596
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.199
through the woods and it finally took me a while

597
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:36.519
to figure out if I find that shape in the

598
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.679
woods they want, and I did. I found the shape.

599
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:43.800
Took me three days, but I did find that shape,

600
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.360
and the dog's toy was laying at the base of

601
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:46.960
that tree.

602
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:48.559
Oh wow.

603
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:52.480
So I brought it back, put it back, and rearrange

604
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:57.800
the pipes. And it happened two more times. And then

605
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:03.239
I made a mistake. I told all my friends this story,

606
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.719
and all of a sudden, they're all showing up with

607
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:11.679
pipes and toys, and I think they were trying to

608
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:19.800
teach me a simple symbol. And it got deluded when

609
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.800
all my friends showed up deciding they're going to do

610
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.119
it too. And so it hasn't happened in about a

611
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.280
year and a half now, but I keep my toys

612
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:32.880
and sticks out there just in case.

613
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:43.760
Orville and his friend Jason had an amazing experience on

614
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:46.320
December seventh, twenty twenty three, and I'm going to let

615
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:52.599
Orville tell you about it. But over time, as this

616
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:57.000
has happened the last nine years, we've had lots of visitors.

617
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:02.119
Some are very sensitive to the energy, and they have

618
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:05.719
told us we have portals, and you know portals, like

619
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:09.360
what's a portal? A doorway between our dimension and another dimension?

620
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:12.719
And so we're kind of of the opinion that maybe

621
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:17.199
that's how interdimensional beings such as Bigfoot or ets or

622
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:21.360
whatever you know, are visiting us through these quote doorways.

623
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:26.199
And I'm gonna let Orville tell you about entering one

624
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.840
of those doorways he and his friend Jason on December seventh,

625
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.599
twenty twenty three.

626
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:36.360
So what we had done is the natives had said

627
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.159
it all up, So they're going at this time start

628
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:45.400
a cedar fire. And when the cedar fire is going

629
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.639
at seven o'clock, then we want you to play, and

630
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:53.000
they sent me a YouTube video thing play this music

631
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.679
because it's at a certain frequency, and there was probably

632
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:07.039
close to seventh I was in people meditating and focusing worldwide.

633
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.360
Most of them were in the United States, but there

634
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.800
were some men in Africa and England. So we're like, okay.

635
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:18.920
So Jason and I get the cedar fire going, and

636
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.719
then all of a sudden we saw a pillar of

637
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:26.320
light up on the top of the hill. So I

638
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.840
run like crazy for the light. Jason's right behind me.

639
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:34.079
Jason's a bigger than I am, so he's running slower.

640
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.239
But when I got to the top of the hill,

641
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.960
the light was about two feet off the ground and

642
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.719
went up near the top of the trees, and it

643
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:49.599
just looked like a pillar. So I get into the

644
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:56.599
light and it was just I could see people. It

645
00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:01.440
looked like daytime if i'd look down and looked nighttime.

646
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.559
If I looked up and all this activity going on,

647
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.079
I could see people in there. Jason went in right

648
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:15.800
behind me, and by the time everything was said and done,

649
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:20.599
I was in there probably about two minutes, and I

650
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.679
ended up way on the other side of the property,

651
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:26.920
and it was an hour and a half later, Jason

652
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:30.199
went the other direction and he was gone for about

653
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:34.559
an hour and a half. So we get back to

654
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:37.920
the stage and we're trying to call Cheryl on the

655
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.079
phone and let her know what happened. And then I

656
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:44.880
realized all of our security cameras are on, and I

657
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:48.119
went in and hit the playback on the security camera.

658
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:53.519
We got the whole thing recorded on two separate cameras.

659
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:01.039
That is really intense. So is that a is that like,

660
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.559
do you have that on your website for people to

661
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.079
view or or is that private.

662
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.840
Ville We show them when they come to the term,

663
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.559
But that's awesome. We should set it up for him

664
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:13.920
to view it. Wow.

665
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:19.159
Wow, So has anyone ever experienced Are you the only

666
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.679
ones that have walked into portals on your property?

667
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:24.039
Or there have been other people as well? Oh?

668
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:28.079
No, I think a lot of people have. There was

669
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:33.000
a lady and then Mark wentz and and myself. The

670
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:38.039
three of us were walking down the hill and all

671
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.599
of us and it's it's kind of a cold evening,

672
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.679
but all of a sudden we could see a horse

673
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:52.119
with a native on it and it's fair back, and

674
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.199
so we look over we see the horse and the

675
00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:00.000
native on it. And all of a sudden, the native

676
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:03.679
turns and he can see us. You could see his face.

677
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:09.559
He looked right at us, and then he turned and

678
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:12.840
tried to like ride off, and then the whole thing quit.

679
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:19.039
And according to Mark, who is into quantum physics, and

680
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:21.880
he said, you know, it could have been there was

681
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:26.199
a portal, a time portal. We were looking back in

682
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:28.840
time and he was looking into the future. Just a

683
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:35.280
hole a doughnut that I think. And we got pictures.

684
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:38.840
So Mark had the sense to start snapping with his

685
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:43.679
phone and you could see the rider, the horse, everything

686
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:45.559
in the pictures.

687
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:54.719
Man, my goodness, have there. Let's see. I have so

688
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:55.719
many questions.

689
00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:59.320
Have there been any individuals that have come to your

690
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:03.840
property and that have been their health has been affected

691
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:04.559
in any ways?

692
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:09.679
Oh lots of those. Yeah, they're like, oh my shoulder,

693
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:13.000
quid herny, my back doesn't hurt, especially when they get

694
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.039
up on top of the hill. Once they get to

695
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:19.679
near the top it they start feeling better. And the

696
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.760
cool thing is is it's not just so much the

697
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:28.880
healing as it is the sensation of peace. It's a

698
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:32.639
happy place. Here's where Peter Pan learned how to fly.

699
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:39.440
Right there you go there you go. So it sounds

700
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:41.599
like most of this stuff is happening in the same

701
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:43.239
area on top of this hill.

702
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:48.039
Well that's where we take the people too.

703
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:50.239
Oh sure, okay, there's a lot.

704
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:57.119
More property, but we can't let people run wild because

705
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.320
we still don't know and understand. So we try I do.

706
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:03.079
When they go on the tour, We're going to take

707
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:08.320
them to the biggest known hotspots. I don't I don't

708
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:12.440
want people scattered where I can't see him because I

709
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.320
don't know what's going to happen. I'm not saying it's

710
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.760
a bad thing. I'm just saying, is this all stick

711
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:23.840
together and experience it together. But if somebody was to

712
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:27.880
walk off on their own, I don't. I don't think

713
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:31.280
that that was a wise idea. So yeah, we stay together,

714
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:34.159
and we stay where it's easy to get in and

715
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:34.559
out of.

716
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:39.199
Well another thing too, that's been revealed to us. This

717
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:45.480
is their home, this is their property. And over time,

718
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:48.320
especially Orville, as he's been out exploring in the woods

719
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:50.079
and I've been with him a few times, but he's

720
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:55.440
mostly the explorer. And as after we bought the property, obviously,

721
00:48:55.519 --> 00:49:01.480
you know, going and exploring through Orville has IDENTI specific

722
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:05.320
places where he feels those are sacred, those are their

723
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:09.239
parts of this property. We're using part of it, yes,

724
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:13.239
you know, for our tours in our crystal mind, but

725
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:18.119
there are other places that we want to be respectful

726
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:22.920
of their space, and we ask our visitors to be

727
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:27.440
as well. And we don't need to be rude to anybody.

728
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:33.000
But for example, we actually just built cabins and we're

729
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:36.719
about ready to get to open those up for reservations,

730
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.079
probably hopefully within the next couple of weeks. We're trying

731
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.239
to get organized enough and that's going to be a

732
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:44.880
great time that people will actually be able to stay here.

733
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:48.639
We've never had a business where we could have overnight guests,

734
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.800
and we've been asked and asked you know for sure,

735
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.119
well that's going to happen. But we are also going

736
00:49:55.239 --> 00:50:00.920
to ask for ultimate respect from our visitors. You know,

737
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.679
they will be able to be escorted through the property.

738
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.159
We'll go on some night hikes and things like that,

739
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:11.639
but people can't just wander off. And if you love

740
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:15.000
what's happening here and you respect it and you want

741
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:19.039
it to keep happening, I hope that our visitors will

742
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:22.760
show the same respect as we have and it's only

743
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:27.039
human nature. It's only human curiosity, you know, that draws

744
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:31.760
us into exploring. But like I said, you know, we

745
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:34.239
hope that people will show that respect.

746
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:39.760
Sure, absolutely we crazy horse said, treat the earth well.

747
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:43.719
It was not given to you by your parents. It

748
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:47.239
was only loaned to you by your children. So that

749
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:51.320
is the model that we use out here, is we

750
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.159
need to leave everything for the next generation, and we

751
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.320
need to leave it better shape than we found it.

752
00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:57.519
I love that.

753
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:01.360
Wow, Orville, how do you know what areas on the

754
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:03.840
property are considered sacred.

755
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.719
I've walked many times with a lot of the natives

756
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:17.880
and the spiritual leaders, and there are many times where

757
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:23.360
we were walking and somebody would put their hand out

758
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:26.960
like over my chest, and they're like, Okay, we don't

759
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:30.880
need to go any further than this. This is their space.

760
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:35.920
And so I marked all those I'd come back, not

761
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:39.000
step on the ground, but I'd come back and look.

762
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:42.880
And you know how woodpecker will peck in a circle

763
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.639
around a tree, make all the little holes. I came

764
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:49.880
by there one time in the area where the natives said, oh,

765
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:53.119
don't go here, this is a sacred ground, and all

766
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:56.760
those little holes had feathers in them, going in a

767
00:51:56.760 --> 00:52:00.639
circle around the tree about four feet up. We're the

768
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:05.679
young ones playing over there. Is it their space? We

769
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.880
have enough land so we don't have to worry about, oh,

770
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:11.679
this is my twenty feet or sixty feet or a

771
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:14.760
hundred feet. They can have it. I got no issues.

772
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:19.960
We don't feel entitled at all. We just have been blessed,

773
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:25.840
you know, by them. We didn't ask for it. We're

774
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:29.280
not insisting on it. We're not insisting on our way.

775
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.880
We want to be respectful, and we're very thankful that

776
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:35.639
they have revealed themselves to us.

777
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:40.000
Sure, absolutely, you notice you got to look for us

778
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:45.559
because we don't advertise r and exactly, we don't take

779
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:48.360
out ads. We don't do anything. If you're drawn here,

780
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:50.880
you're drawn here, that's cool. We're sitting here waiting on you.

781
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:57.039
But I have no desire whatsoever to yell at the

782
00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.960
world and go come by and see. If you're drawn,

783
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:03.079
then that's all that matters.

784
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:08.119
And we actually limit the number of visitors pretty much

785
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:12.639
like even Crystal Digging, fifteen adults a day, and we're

786
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:16.559
only open three days a week, and you know, we

787
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:18.679
might stretch it a little bit of course, if people

788
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:21.000
just show up and drive in and they want to

789
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:24.599
go crystal digging, okay, that's fine. But you know, we

790
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:27.559
and our tours as well. I think we have a

791
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:31.559
limit of twelve people to come on our tours and

792
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:34.320
we only have those on Friday and Saturday night right now.

793
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:38.599
But you know, we're not looking to run this as

794
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:40.360
a big business where we're going to make a lot

795
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:42.320
of money. We don't want to. I always say, we

796
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:43.960
don't want to check people in and out of air

797
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:47.039
like Walmart, you know what I mean. We want it

798
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:51.320
to be special. And now we're opening our cabins and

799
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:53.840
the most people that will be able to we have

800
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.800
eight cabins, two per cabin, so that's sixteen guests total.

801
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:03.280
And that's enough, you know, that's that's quite enough people

802
00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:07.719
to get out there with us, and we will show them,

803
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.280
you know, and share with them what we've been taught

804
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:17.960
by the Sasquatch people. And like again, it's all about respect.

805
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:23.239
You know, this is their land, their home, and they

806
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:25.199
have been teaching us that.

807
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:31.400
Yeah, the natives have told us never take more than

808
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:35.639
twenty five percent and the earth will always be able

809
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:42.400
to give. So when we crystal dig. We open at

810
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:46.199
nine and we close at three, because that's twenty five

811
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:50.440
percent of the day. So we estimate the natives estimate

812
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:53.840
how much rock can be taken out, how many people

813
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:58.280
can dig, and we only do twenty five percent of

814
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:04.039
what is estimated that the overall is we don't need

815
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:05.360
more than twenty five percent.

816
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:11.239
Wow, what a fascinating setup that you guys have, And

817
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:15.559
I feel like you could probably write book after book

818
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:19.360
after book of everything you've experienced there. I think this

819
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.719
has been a great conversation, but I really would like

820
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:26.760
to talk about So do you guys then have like

821
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:29.480
a sign up thing on your website or how do

822
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:31.880
people get set up if they want to check it

823
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:35.119
out because it's limited to a certain amount per day.

824
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:40.960
Yes, we have our reservation schedule on our website board

825
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:45.719
Camp crystalmind dot com and they can get on our

826
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:50.519
website and make a reservation for the Crystal digging and

827
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:57.079
or an explained tour and then so you know it's there,

828
00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:59.840
and the course pay for it there through through PayPal

829
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:03.639
on their credit card, so they can set it up

830
00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:04.079
that way.

831
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:08.800
Yeah, and and just email us if you want they

832
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.920
have a group to have a private tour, just let

833
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.039
us know, we'll see what we can work that out.

834
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.960
Yeah, we do that too with groups, you know, But

835
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:20.159
like I said, you know, we don't want a whole

836
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.920
lot of people here, you know, at one time. That's

837
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:27.320
it just that way, it's special. We want it to

838
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:31.280
stay special. We don't want to abuse it or exploit it.

839
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:38.239
Absolutely, I'd say that's that's a good way to handle it. Well, well, guys,

840
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:40.960
it has been a pleasure talking to you. Do you

841
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:46.880
either of you have any final thoughts about about what's

842
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.719
going on there at the mind before we head out

843
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:50.559
for you know what.

844
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:54.119
You're more than welcome to come out experience it for yourself.

845
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.239
It's on me, don't worry about it, and we'd love

846
00:56:57.280 --> 00:56:57.760
to have you.

847
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:02.360
Absolutely, thank you and I we are just like Orville

848
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:07.039
said earlier, we have come to identify ourselves as the gatekeepers.

849
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.559
We are the gatekeepers and the caregivers here. We've been

850
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:14.679
given this responsibility for whatever reason, and we are very

851
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:18.960
blessed and honored. You know that. I'm not saying we

852
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:22.280
were chosen, but we were led here, you know, and

853
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:26.159
to experience this has just been amazing, especial. She since

854
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:30.159
we were you know, your typical unbelievers. It's okay, you know.

855
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:33.079
And we've had people come here that this was like,

856
00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:36.599
you know, they heard about our story. They were unbelievers too,

857
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:42.000
you know, and they came away with maybe a different opinion.

858
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:44.360
You know, maybe Bigfoot didn't walk right out of the

859
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.039
woods and shake their hand. I think we'd all be

860
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:51.800
horrified if that happened or fate, you know. But but

861
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:55.119
you know, just whatever they experienced and hearing our story.

862
00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:58.440
And by the way, you said like books. Actually, I've

863
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:02.119
written a couple of books already about our experience that

864
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:05.480
are available on Amazon. And it all started with those

865
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:09.199
three beams. So that's the title of these books is Beams.

866
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:12.320
And you know, I've got one book one and book two,

867
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.239
and I have a lot more writing to do, and

868
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.719
I'm just praying that I will have the time because

869
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:22.400
I have most all of our stories documented and a

870
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.440
million pictures which I actually just emailed you a few

871
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:33.000
pictures if you can use them. Yeah, and I can

872
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:38.599
email you quite a few more as well. But it's

873
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:43.840
just been like an honor to be able to experience this,

874
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:48.039
to share it with others and through someone like you.

875
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:52.280
Thank you for this invitation. And all your listeners out there.

876
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:54.519
If you can make it out to see us, great

877
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:59.199
or you know, texts email us.

878
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:04.440
Well, thank you again. We appreciate Yoah.

879
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.800
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

880
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:13.039
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

881
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.920
would love to get out in those woods and experience

882
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:20.480
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

883
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:24.119
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

884
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:29.079
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

885
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.199
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six.

886
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:33.320
It's going to be.

887
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:36.920
Even better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll

888
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:39.639
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

889
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:45.159
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

890
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:51.440
heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

891
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:53.519
you just got to be there. We'll leave it that

892
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.360
more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

893
00:59:56.440 --> 01:00:01.559
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

894
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:06.559
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

895
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:09.719
not only go to the festival, but you can also

896
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:17.280
sign up for a track Deep in the Wild Forest

897
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:22.079
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots

898
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:26.039
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

899
01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:29.679
up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

900
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:32.960
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

901
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:36.079
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

902
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:39.320
It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

903
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.400
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

904
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:49.039
dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

905
01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:53.840
like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two

906
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:56.840
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

907
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:01.920
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

908
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.400
that you guys can.

909
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.519
Can get a little help with.

910
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:11.760
The costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

911
01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:16.039
you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can

912
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:18.360
talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

913
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:22.039
many people last year and the year before. It is

914
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.000
an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

915
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:29.760
and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

916
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.400
I want to say something directly to a very specific

917
01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:35.920
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

918
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:38.920
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

919
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:42.159
can explain or if you're a National park ranger or

920
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.840
forestryt worker who's been told to stay quiet. If you're

921
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:49.280
a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

922
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:52.400
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

923
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:56.000
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

924
01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:59.079
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

925
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:02.719
search and rescue sponder who's heard screams or found tracks

926
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:05.880
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

927
01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.719
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

928
01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:13.400
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

929
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:17.079
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

930
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:20.639
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

931
01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.400
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

932
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:27.719
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

933
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:32.159
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA,

934
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:35.920
or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

935
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:40.760
then I want to talk to you, Even if it's anonymous.

936
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:46.039
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

937
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:48.920
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

938
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:54.719
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

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We've got the mic.

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See you in the woods.

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Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot

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Society Podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the

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world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that

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the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line.

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If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe

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And remember, if you or someone you know has had

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a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear from you,

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so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com

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chance yet, check out our membership community over at www

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connect with other people that are into the bigfootsub much

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as you are. Thanks again for following along with the

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Big Fat Society until next time. Keep your eyes open,

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trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might

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be out there?

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And see you in the woods.