Arkansas Crystal Mine Bigfoot Case: 10-Foot Creature, Tracks & Lights

0:00 You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the. Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all. Right, Big for Society, Welcome back to another episode of the show. Today we'll be talking to Orville and Cheryl Murphy and they are the owners of the board camp Crystal Mind down there just outside of I believe Mina, Arkansas, and this institution has been talked about on a member's episode of the show, so you may have heard it.

0:58 And there's some really interesting thing things that happen at this mine, especially regarding Bigfoot. So welcome to the show. Guys. How are you doing today? We're doing great, Thank you. And how about yourself? Cheryl? Oh? Yes, absolutely, thank you for having. Us absolutely, can you, Orville, would you mind taking a minute and sharing what what exactly Board Camp Crystal Mind is and Cheryl feel free to fill in anything else you'd like after him. Well, in a nutshell, we we purchased the property we're going to put in a campground, and we found crystals.

1:46 Then the the natives came up and said, please don't destroy the land. It's special. So then we started working with the native tribes and and that's when and then things kind of started to happen. We started seeing things. The tribes would come out, they blessed the ground, and they would leave offerings for the star people and the forest people, and we were kind of impressed by that. We didn't see anything at the time, but it didn't take long after that where things started to open up and we can now we just consider ourselves the gatekeepers.

2:31 Prior to things started happening here, and I'll give you a timeline, but prior to all of this, we were not quote believers. You know. We heard plenty of stories like everybody else, saw a few things on TV, you know, but paranormal for us was just on TV. And anyway, we, like Orville said, we bought the land, found the crystals, developed the crystal mind, and we didn't want to use heavy equipment had this great big mining things going on, so we just wanted to have like a public dig site, which is pretty common in our area of Arkansas because there the Washita Mountains is full of quartz crystals as just the normal geological formation. So we opened the mind of the public in twenty twelve, and like Gorville said, we were you know, visited by some of our natives friends, and you know, we decided We've always been conservative people as far as you know, we want to take care of the land and the earth, and we love people.

3:37 We wanted, you know, families to just be able to come out dig for their own crystals. It's like a treasure hunt. It's lots of fun, you know, especially for the kids. And so from twenty twelve to twenty seventeen that was our normal life. And then on February eighteenth of twenty seventeen, that evening, our son Josh came to visit us for the first time and we stepped outside to look at the beautiful stars. And anyway, we have about fifty acres of property, so we've got some room here and We were standing just out behind our house looking at the stars, and on the next hill over would you say, what about five hundred feet orval about five hundred feet away. All of a sudden we saw these three huge white beams of light and they seemed to originate at the ground level on top of that next hill over there and shoot up into the sky like three hundred feet into the air. It was like just so flabbergastings, like astonishing. We were just like gawking, like what what are those beams? And how did are they there? And we couldn't hear any engines like helicopters, airplanes flying over anything like that that could manifest the beams.

5:09 And the beams only lasted about eight to ten seconds, so we were not even able to get like, you know, or even think to grab our cell phone to take a picture. But anyway, everything went black and about eight to ten seconds we couldn't hear anything, no engines. You know, We're thinking, who's on our property with these spotlights? You know, it's ridiculous. They need a great, big, you know, truck to do that, and we would know, we know when people are on our property out here in the country. It's easy to you know, hear and keep track dogs and all that. Right. So anyway, the next day, Orville and I walked up to the top of the hill and our son Josh too, and we were thinking, well, maybe we'll find footprints or tire tracks, but we did not find that. But what we did find was quite astonishing. We found all the metal objects were affected. So we had metal fence posts up there and they were leaning and we're like, what what would do that? And then we had a great big metal sign that we had up there on the top of the hill, and we had to post some things, you know, to have ournment government mining license, so we had some things posted on that sign and the whole sign was toppled over and we couldn't believe it, like someone pushed it over or something. And Orville even welded legs to it to ensure that the wind wouldn't topple it over. So in five years that sign just stood

6:42 there and now we find it toppled over and we can't figure this out. This is weird. And so anyway, we came back to the house and who were we going to call. We didn't have Ghostbuster's phone number at the time. So we called a friend who told us about mofon the mutual UFO network, and she's all excited when we described our sighting of the beams the night before, and she goes, you had a sighting, you had a sighting. You need to report this to move on and we're like, move on, what's that? You know, we didn't follow all this UFO stuff. So anyway, she talked us into it. You know, we're kind of rolling our eyes, like, oh, come on, UFO. I mean, we can't explain what was the cause of these amazing beams, but you know UFO.

7:30 And but anyway, we went ahead and called mofon and they were extremely interested in coming to do an on site investigation on our property, and especially because we had the physical evidence left behind, which was all the metal objects were affected. So we're like, sure, you can come, and so they sent a group from Marcusas and they also sent some of their top investigators from the main organization. So they told us when they got here that only three percent of people who have sightings actually have physical evidence left behind. So that's what really intrigued them. They don't get to go out many places and find physical evidence, which some of that might be like crop circles or tree tops mown down. And anyway, they came out with what they called goss meters GAUSS, and those little meters they turn them on, they put them up to a metal object and it measures the electromagnetic field that the metal object might emit. So they did that to the fence posts that were leaning, and they did it to the big sign metal sign that had toppled over, and they were getting extraordinarily high electromagnetic readings off these metal objects.

8:56 And these move On people are all excited to kind of stand there scratching our heads. But they're all excited because they hardly ever get physical evidence. So anyway, they asked the three of us about the beams and are sighting, and they said, you know those beams, those three beams, did they like when they shot up into the night sky. Did they appear to like dissipate into the night sky like spotlights or were they flat across the top? And the three of us, you know, even though we only witnessed it like eight to ten seconds, we all agreed, yeah, you know what, they were flat across the top. So the move on people proceeded to tell us they believed a craft actually came over our property, hovered, sent the beams down to the ground, and they were possibly harvesting crystal energy out of our Crystal Mind. And of course, you know, we're pretty shocked to hear this from these people.

9:59 I mean, they're very very nice and very professional and educated, and yet they're telling us this story. Right, So anyway, we you know, I mean, what can we do? Right, We shrugged our shoulders and just thought, okay, well we'll go on with our lives. And after that, actually, the Travel Channel at that time they were hosting Josh Gates show Expedition Unknown, and Josh Gates was in the middle of filming in twenty seventeen the Hunt for Extra Terrestrials, so he'd gone to England, he'd gone to Chile, and he heard about our case through Muffon and they contacted us to come out and film, and so they did, and we were very blessed that they included us in their five part mini series about Expedition Unknown Hunt for Extraterrestrials.

10:57 So anyway, if you go to our website board Campcrystalmind dot com, at the top it says see us on TV, and you can watch that episode, and a company called Quest pulled our ten minutes out of the forty five minute episode, so it's all there together, our story on Expedition Unknown. And that was twenty seventeen. And then since then, not only have we seen other weird lights, we've witnessed orbs in the woods. We've witnessed other beams of light, not as big and brilliant as the three original beams that we saw. But then our native friends kept coming out and we're walking with them through our woods and they're showing as signs of Bigfoot or sasquatch presence. And then we began to have what you we can only describe as interactions with them. So anyway, Orville, do you want to take over from there? Orville had the most interactions with the Bigfoot, and I'll let him take it from here.

12:07 I don't talk much. I'm kind of a straightforward guy. He asked me a question, you get a direct answer, and that's about it. But I was a hazard mitigation technical specialist for Homeland Security and retired and found out that none of this stuff is in a government handbook. So when we were out with the natives, they were chanting and I'm following them and just letting them do their thing. I'm basically mimicking and had approximately a ten or twelve foot squatch come right up out of a ravine and we were no more than fifty feet away from him, and of course I kept my composure by losing it. But that was the first time that I saw one and we actually got to make eye contact.

13:04 And I've had eye contact one other time, but I've had six sightings where I did not make eye contact. But you can actually see without doubt something moving through the woods and you can tell it's a squatch, and you could tell from the way they walk, the way they act. I've seen people try to describe to me that, oh, sasquatch is a big monster in the woods, and they're not. They're one of the most graceful creatures you've ever seen. They they work well with the woods.

13:46 Orville. That is fascinating. I have a few questions for you regarding that. So, okay, about your first sighting. So you said that the that you had your I'm going to use your terminologies native friends, And are these individuals from the area specifically, yes, Okay, they. Were choctaws and Cherokee, Chickasaw Chickasaw. I mean, they were just they came out to do a blessing and so they're like, just follow us and do what we say.

14:29 And I'm like, oh, you're going to draw them in, and they said, we can't do that. We just communicate and it's up to them. And they called them the forest people. But so, like I said, when I first made eye contact, the first thing I realized is you cannot unsee. That's it you. When you see it, You're hooked and he's you for the rest of your life and there's no going back, there's no you know, oh, what was that really? Now you know exactly what it is and there aren't any doubts.

15:10 Wow, that is amazing. Can you describe what they were doing specifically? And you were doing as well? Before you had the sighting of the twelve foot Sasquatch. The natives were walking and there were three spiritual leaders in the front and approximately thirty other people in the back, and everybody's chanting and as they're walking, they have their heads down a little bit and they kind of got the body sway thing going. You know, everybody is in like perfect harmony and all of a sudden, everybody just came to a dead stop because we're in two rows, and everybody came to a dead stop and just faced each other and put their heads down. There was no oh everybody stopped. No, it's just everybody already knew. And I mean I'm looking around, going what why do we stop?

16:17 You know? And of course they're chanting in a language I don't understand, but I'm trying to mimic the words. And I, like I said, when he came up out of the ravine, he looked like he was on an escalator. There was just no effort whatsoever. And a lot of people say, oh, what did he look like? And to me, if you've ever seen the show Harry and the Henderson's okay, to me, that's about as close as you're going to get. You could see facial expressions, you can see age, you can see you know, in their eyes. There, the way they stand, the way they lean. I mean, there's there, there's transmitting so much energy and so much information. And I mean I'm trying to find words to express and I don't think there's adequate words to do it.

17:23 Wow, it's it's fascinating. I can tell it really affected you, just because you almost become a different individual when you start talking about it. It's it's incredible how it infected, how it affected you about the specific chanting that they were doing and that you were doing as well. Was it a repeated word or phrase over and over or did it? Yeah, repeated phrases okay, and in the tone the tone stayed the same. And later when I asked the spiritual leaders, I said, so, why doing this? And he goes, when we chant, we chant at a certain frequency and then as we feel we change that frequency. So we said, the spiritual leaders are actually you know, leading with the tones, but everybody behind them is the amplifier. And of course I'm brand new to everything, so I'm going okay, because I don't understand. But this was years ago. And now every time things happen and whatever, you get closer and closer and closer. And people say, oh, do you get closer to the truth. No, you know the truth, You

18:54 just get closer to your destination. Wow, what you think the truth is? Orville? The truth is they're there. I truly believe and that they're spiritual creatures. And you know, no one's going to convince me different until one walks up to me and says no. But when we had the one come up out of the ravine, when he left, he turned his head just a little bit because he ain't got no shoulders, so he turned his head a little bit. And then I saw him lean, And the only way someone's going to lean is if they're a biped. And after that he was gone. I didn't see disappear. I didn't see, you know, him run off or anything. It just he was there and then he wasn't there. But I couldn't explain while he was gone.

19:58 Okay, did it did it have any emotion in its face during the time you were able to see it? Yes? Absolutely, And like I said, that was the first time I made eye contact, and the second time I made eye contact the same thing. You can see the expression. They say the eyes are you know, the window to the soul. But when you look at their eyes and you can see, I mean we were we were within seventy five feet, so that's not like way across the field. I mean I could have hit him with a walnut, you know. But the you could see in their face, the way the cheeks moved, the way they their eyebrows go up and down the way he blinked, and all of this is happening within about twenty seconds, and twenty seconds is a lifetime when inside you're screaming and outside your pointing.

21:06 Since that time, that was really Orville's first real experience, like a close up type thing, and we have had so many interactions as far as now, I've had two sightings, so to speak. That's all the way I describe it, but Orville has had more. But number one, if you go to Google and you look up signs of Bigfoot, like the tree arches, the stacks of logs, the rock throwing, we have experienced all of that, and it's amazing they've never but but I always say to people, we've been startled by some like even the rock throwing, but they've never thrown rocks at us. But they've thrown them in our direction when we're walking in the path, and I think it's to get our attention. Maybe it's certain does, but we've also had amazing other interactions. At this point, I mean, this started in twenty seventeen, so we're almost you know, we're nine years now, and we we still have interaction, which is amazing. We have come to know them as very helpful. Like for example, I lose my car keys outside and I'm looking around, can't find them, and all of a sudden they appear on my front porch.

22:30 So you know, it's like, no, I didn't even go on the front porch to lose them, you know, I know was it was. I consider it them. They have given us crystal gifts. And I was going to say, we started our unexplained tours, which if you go on our website you'll read about. We decided we were on Josh Gates show, right, So now here we are, we're public with this. What are people going to think of us? You know, are local friends and our family. We opened up a can of worms here and so we started our unexplained tours so the public would have an opportunity to come to our property, sit with us a couple three hours and in the dark and watch the sky, watch the woods. And at this point nine years later, hundreds of people have had sightings or some kind of experience.

23:23 And like I said earlier, we've had our own private experiences too. Get up in the morning and walk in the kitchen to get some coffee and there's a beautiful crystal in the middle of our dining room table. It's like, what where did that come from? I believe they left it for us. Many many of our guests have received crystals that just magically appeared on our tours. And we really believe at this point that bigfoot sasquatch ets, whatever they are, are probably interdimensional beings and for whatever reason, they're able to come into our dimension and manifest to us.

24:08 And we are both really Christian believers. We were raised in church and the whole bit and all the stories of angels appearing to people that we hear over the years, and I've met quite a few people that actually claim they saw their guardian angel because they had no other explanation. It was like a humanoid person in a white robe or white clothes or whatever that spoke to them, that interacted. And for example, one of my sons was in a bad car accident and somebody wearing total white walked up to the car and said you're going to be fine and then left. You know, how do you explain that kind of stuff? And like I said, I've met other people who have had the same experience angels. Okay, where do they come from, you know, like they just manifest and then disappeared. And this is kind of the same type of thing that we've witnessed with the Sasquatch. If we didn't see them actually their bodies, they left us these crystal gifts during our tours. They just appear or they fall and they hit the floor of the building where we have our tours, and it happens pretty frequently.

25:25 It's amazing, and we consider the Sasquatch beings at this point as being very loving and kind to us. They've proven that to us and they've interacted to that extent, and so, I don't know, we're just amazed. We're very blessed, and we love it when we have guests who come on our tours and are able to experience that too. And we can't guarantee if anyone's going to see or experience anything, but you know, at least it's an opportunity. And i'd say we have we're we have about a seventy to eighty percent experience rate of something.

26:08 Oh my goodness. And what's nice do is we have a lot more than just sightings. We found a large cedar tree, a dead one laid across the road with footprints, and we casted the prince and they were twenty inch prints and I had to get the tractor to get the tree off the road, and that tree had been drug probably one hundred hundred and fifty feet away. That's wild, Cheryl. I want to address something you said earlier a few minutes ago with the crystals appearing out of nowhere. So I've talked to definitely one attendee of your Crystal Mind maybe too, and both both have said the same thing where there was literally a crystal that appeared out of nowhere, and sometimes I think even dropped down from nowhere and they're like, oh, there's one right there.

27:16 So this is a thing that people are experiencing and not just like something that sharel is saying, like, there are multiple people that are reporting this. Yes, it's amazing, and like I said, we ended up calling it gifting. They're gifting us and our guests, and obviously we can't guarantee that this is going to happen at all of our tours, but like I said, we are having like a seventy to eighty percent experience rate that that includes some of that gifting of the crystals. But it's also other things like, you know, the grunts, the growls, the sounds, you know. But when it comes to the manifestation of something like the crystals, it is amazing, you know. And again to me, it proves that these beings they have like a personality or a loving way about them that they like to please us as humans.

28:17 And it's amazing, it really is. And I think a lot of times the young ones, not the babies, because they're pretty much off limits. They're not going to let us around them. But one time we had a very heavy picnic table on our back porch and it was gone, so I go off looking for it. There's no dragon marks or anything, and then there's a road going down the hill towards the stage, and then I noticed there's one leg of the table being drug on the ground, and then two legs, and then later further down the hill there's all four legs.

29:00 And then we found the table and it's like they picked it up and carried it. One did, probably, and the further along he got. It's like, I think, I bid off more table than I can chew, and it was gotten heavier, and then he ended up dragging it. So I go down there. I see the table. I got my cell phone. I'm trying to get a picture of it, and it's just swarmed with orbs, just little lights all around it. And all of our cats are sitting on the table like, well, what does that mean? I don't have the faintest idea. So the Orville you did you see the orbs with your naked eye? Or this was when you're taking picture?

29:46 Yes, okay, that's why I hurried. Up and took the picture right right. Oh my god. On the cats are like, hey, check this out. We were riding on the table whatever. You know. Our two guests have definitely seen flashes of light lights. Actually, they seem like they're coming out of the ground, like someone's got a flashlight at ground level and shines it up. And some of these are flashes, and some will stay on more like a few seconds. Rock stacks. We walk on our woods and we see rocks stacked up, and we've even had that happen on our picnic table out back of our house. But we used the picnic tables as gifting tables. We set them up out in the woods and we left a jar peanut butter one time on the table and the jar peanut butter was gone. So it's like, oh, did squatch eat dake it? Did an animal get it?

30:42 You know? Nowhere in Arkansas, you know, I petted a wet possum on the back porch once, thinking it was a cat. But the uh, then all of a sudden, like four days later, here's the empty peanut butter contained or plastic and it's got crystals and pine cones in it. And it was sitting on the table where we had left it. And they're like, oh, thank you for the peanut butter. We'll give you some pine cones and crystals to pay for it. So we brought the more peanut butter. That is fascinating. Was it full to the top or how full was it?

31:25 I had the lid on it, and when they brought it back it was probably about half full. Because everybody knows that peanut butter ain't worth that much, you know, but we were just amazed that to find the jar with pine cones and crystals in it, So obviously they thought that that was valuable to them and would probably be valuable to us. Thanking this for the peanut butter. That it's absolutely fascinating. So your first sighting Orville was fifty feet away, correct around there?

32:06 Yes? Has that been the closest you think that you've gotten to a Sasquatch on the property or have they? Yeah? That's yeah, that's it. So gotcha? Gotcha? What was the reaction of the u of your native friends that were around you at that time when they also saw what was coming up through a. Few I means to them it was nothing. I mean, have you ever been at the airport and looked up into an airplane go by? You know that that's yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, an airplane, you know. But you know I'm sitting there going ah, the plane to blame, and they're like, it's cool.

32:49 You know, it's like this is expected, this is what happens. This is the way things are supposed to be. Wow. So the area that you're at, it's fifty acres, right, guys, yeah? Approximately. Are your neighbors around the area also experiencing things like this or do you think this is limited to this this fifty acre area you have for some reason? No, there we our neighbors have seen things, they talked about orbs and all this. But we're in an area that has a lot of old timey families, and when you have that, they're like, don't use my name, but let me tell you what I saw. We've had many people telling stories from when they were children or you know, my grandma used to tell me about the you know, Sasquatch that sat on a rock by the creek when she as a little girl. So we're hearing these stories that we're absolutely the newcomers do something that's been here forever.

34:12 Local people are a little shy, and I don't blame them, you know, they kind of keep to themselves. And then when we came on the scene here in this small town and went public with our story, then we started to have more locals even attend our tour or come forward, you know, call us on the phone and go, wow, you know, we heard your story and we've seen things too. But a lot of people, you know, they don't want to go public with that, and we don't blame them, you know, because there's a lot of ridicule. Of course, understandably, you know by the unbelievers. We used to be unbelievers.

34:52 We get it, you know. Sure, sure, can you think of a time maybe you could share of when a person that was you know, coming to your crystal mind, and it took the tour looked around that they had an interaction. With a big foot. Can you think of any of those experiences? Yes, we've I mean, I consider for the next four hours and do that. We were walking up the hill, so it's me taking people on a tour up the hill and there's three of us and a rock probably the size of a bowling ball, came past us and it was probably about I guess, three feet off the ground when it went by, and when it hit, you know, into the woods, you could hear it bounce on off of trees and everything. And there's a meadow to the left of us, so we're looking to the left. There's nobody standing out there because nobody could throw a rock that far. Plus the rock didn't go down. The rock came across straight, just like it was sliding down a piece of string. And so two of us went up the hill and continued the tur and one person decided

36:24 it'd be best if they go back, so they didn't get to finish the tur But while we were up there, we heard hand clapping, foot stomping, We even heard like native chanting, but it was in the distance, so They were definitely the squatches were definitely up there. And we've had many, many times where we've been up on the hill and you'll hear a rock drop, you hear a limb break. And the first thing we determined when we started seeing all this stuff is nobody has the right to own a phenomenon. Everything that happened here belongs to the people of the earth. That's why we opened it up and said, you know, we're not going to close this down and hide it. I believe that people are just as much, you know, part of this. You know, everybody on the earth has a chance to experience it.

37:30 The more we share together, like you know, I'm sure your listeners and many people who have participated in your podcasts in the past, you know, the more we share our stories, you know, we're learning and we want to learn more. You know, our learning is rather limited in our human selves in the third dimension. But you know we're excited. We're anxious to learn more, we're anxious to share with each other, and we just appreciate this opportunity that we're able to share today with you. Jeremiah, thank you. I have nothing to prove. I know what I saw, but the h I get the biggest kick out of when people show up here and tell me their experiences and then have one while they're here. Yeah, and to me, that is just that that's the biggest thing ever.

38:27 Absolutely. Are there times when people are having visual sightings as you had yourself Orville. Yes, and you know they tell me about them. But a lot of times, once or twice you'll hear about, oh I saw something on my own. But most of the time, when there's a sighting, and this is what I really love. When there's a sighting, there's usually three or four people there who all see it at the same time. Oh yeah, So it's not one person saying, oh I felt this or I felt that or I saw it. Isn't it When when you have four or five people all seeing it at the same time, there's a lot of credibility there.

39:15 I agree. Yeah. Do you feel like there's ever been any communication between yourselves and the Sasquatch on the property. Yes, And here's how I tried to communicate with them, and they were the ones that sort of set it up. I really believe by talking to the natives that the symbols in the trees. We have trees that have some weird bent limbs, and we have one limb that's like a box. It's just like four nineties, and these shapes mean something to them, so I don't know what it is.

40:00 So I took a bunch of pieces of pipe, and I was working on a project down with the plumbing, and I have a little toy thing that I was playing with the dog with. Anyway, I get up to the house, come back the next morning, and those pieces of pipe are arranged in a certain shape, and the toy is missing. The dog's toy. So I walk up through the woods and it finally took me a while to figure out if I find that shape in the woods they want, and I did. I found the shape. Took me three days, but I did find that shape, and the dog's toy was laying at the base of that tree.

40:48 Oh wow. So I brought it back, put it back, and rearrange the pipes. And it happened two more times. And then I made a mistake. I told all my friends this story, and all of a sudden, they're all showing up with pipes and toys, and I think they were trying to teach me a simple symbol. And it got deluded when all my friends showed up deciding they're going to do it too. And so it hasn't happened in about a year and a half now, but I keep my toys and sticks out there just in case.

41:34 Orville and his friend Jason had an amazing experience on December seventh, twenty twenty three, and I'm going to let Orville tell you about it. But over time, as this has happened the last nine years, we've had lots of visitors. Some are very sensitive to the energy, and they have told us we have portals, and you know portals, like what's a portal? A doorway between our dimension and another dimension? And so we're kind of of the opinion that maybe that's how interdimensional beings such as Bigfoot or ets or whatever you know, are visiting us through these quote doorways.

42:22 And I'm gonna let Orville tell you about entering one of those doorways he and his friend Jason on December seventh, twenty twenty three. So what we had done is the natives had said it all up, So they're going at this time start a cedar fire. And when the cedar fire is going at seven o'clock, then we want you to play, and they sent me a YouTube video thing play this music because it's at a certain frequency, and there was probably close to seventh I was in people meditating and focusing worldwide.

43:07 Most of them were in the United States, but there were some men in Africa and England. So we're like, okay. So Jason and I get the cedar fire going, and then all of a sudden we saw a pillar of light up on the top of the hill. So I run like crazy for the light. Jason's right behind me. Jason's a bigger than I am, so he's running slower. But when I got to the top of the hill, the light was about two feet off the ground and went up near the top of the trees, and it just looked like a pillar. So I get into the light and it was just I could see people. It looked like daytime if i'd look down and looked nighttime.

44:01 If I looked up and all this activity going on, I could see people in there. Jason went in right behind me, and by the time everything was said and done, I was in there probably about two minutes, and I ended up way on the other side of the property, and it was an hour and a half later, Jason went the other direction and he was gone for about an hour and a half. So we get back to the stage and we're trying to call Cheryl on the phone and let her know what happened. And then I realized all of our security cameras are on, and I went in and hit the playback on the security camera.

44:48 We got the whole thing recorded on two separate cameras. That is really intense. So is that a is that like, do you have that on your website for people to view or or is that private. Ville We show them when they come to the term, But that's awesome. We should set it up for him to view it. Wow. Wow, So has anyone ever experienced Are you the only ones that have walked into portals on your property? Or there have been other people as well? Oh? No, I think a lot of people have. There was a lady and then Mark wentz and and myself. The three of us were walking down the hill and all of us and it's it's kind of a cold evening, but all of a sudden we could see a horse with a native on it and it's fair back, and so we look over we see the horse and the native on it. And all of a sudden, the native turns and he can see us. You could see his face.

46:04 He looked right at us, and then he turned and tried to like ride off, and then the whole thing quit. And according to Mark, who is into quantum physics, and he said, you know, it could have been there was a portal, a time portal. We were looking back in time and he was looking into the future. Just a hole a doughnut that I think. And we got pictures. So Mark had the sense to start snapping with his phone and you could see the rider, the horse, everything in the pictures.

46:48 Man, my goodness, have there. Let's see. I have so many questions. Have there been any individuals that have come to your property and that have been their health has been affected in any ways? Oh lots of those. Yeah, they're like, oh my shoulder, quid herny, my back doesn't hurt, especially when they get up on top of the hill. Once they get to near the top it they start feeling better. And the cool thing is is it's not just so much the healing as it is the sensation of peace. It's a happy place. Here's where Peter Pan learned how to fly.

47:34 Right there you go there you go. So it sounds like most of this stuff is happening in the same area on top of this hill. Well that's where we take the people too. Oh sure, okay, there's a lot. More property, but we can't let people run wild because we still don't know and understand. So we try I do. When they go on the tour, We're going to take them to the biggest known hotspots. I don't I don't want people scattered where I can't see him because I don't know what's going to happen. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying, is this all stick together and experience it together. But if somebody was to walk off on their own, I don't. I don't think that that was a wise idea. So yeah, we stay together, and we stay where it's easy to get in and out of.

48:35 Well another thing too, that's been revealed to us. This is their home, this is their property. And over time, especially Orville, as he's been out exploring in the woods and I've been with him a few times, but he's mostly the explorer. And as after we bought the property, obviously, you know, going and exploring through Orville has IDENTI specific places where he feels those are sacred, those are their parts of this property. We're using part of it, yes, you know, for our tours in our crystal mind, but there are other places that we want to be respectful of their space, and we ask our visitors to be as well. And we don't need to be rude to anybody.

49:27 But for example, we actually just built cabins and we're about ready to get to open those up for reservations, probably hopefully within the next couple of weeks. We're trying to get organized enough and that's going to be a great time that people will actually be able to stay here. We've never had a business where we could have overnight guests, and we've been asked and asked you know for sure, well that's going to happen. But we are also going to ask for ultimate respect from our visitors. You know, they will be able to be escorted through the property. We'll go on some night hikes and things like that, but people can't just wander off. And if you love what's happening here and you respect it and you want it to keep happening, I hope that our visitors will show the same respect as we have and it's only human nature. It's only human curiosity, you know, that draws us into exploring. But like I said, you know, we hope that people will show that respect.

50:35 Sure, absolutely we crazy horse said, treat the earth well. It was not given to you by your parents. It was only loaned to you by your children. So that is the model that we use out here, is we need to leave everything for the next generation, and we need to leave it better shape than we found it. I love that. Wow, Orville, how do you know what areas on the property are considered sacred. I've walked many times with a lot of the natives and the spiritual leaders, and there are many times where we were walking and somebody would put their hand out like over my chest, and they're like, Okay, we don't need to go any further than this. This is their space.

51:31 And so I marked all those I'd come back, not step on the ground, but I'd come back and look. And you know how woodpecker will peck in a circle around a tree, make all the little holes. I came by there one time in the area where the natives said, oh, don't go here, this is a sacred ground, and all those little holes had feathers in them, going in a circle around the tree about four feet up. We're the young ones playing over there. Is it their space? We have enough land so we don't have to worry about, oh, this is my twenty feet or sixty feet or a hundred feet. They can have it. I got no issues.

52:15 We don't feel entitled at all. We just have been blessed, you know, by them. We didn't ask for it. We're not insisting on it. We're not insisting on our way. We want to be respectful, and we're very thankful that they have revealed themselves to us. Sure, absolutely, you notice you got to look for us because we don't advertise r and exactly, we don't take out ads. We don't do anything. If you're drawn here, you're drawn here, that's cool. We're sitting here waiting on you. But I have no desire whatsoever to yell at the world and go come by and see. If you're drawn, then that's all that matters.

53:03 And we actually limit the number of visitors pretty much like even Crystal Digging, fifteen adults a day, and we're only open three days a week, and you know, we might stretch it a little bit of course, if people just show up and drive in and they want to go crystal digging, okay, that's fine. But you know, we and our tours as well. I think we have a limit of twelve people to come on our tours and we only have those on Friday and Saturday night right now. But you know, we're not looking to run this as a big business where we're going to make a lot of money. We don't want to. I always say, we don't want to check people in and out of air like Walmart, you know what I mean. We want it to be special. And now we're opening our cabins and the most people that will be able to we have eight cabins, two per cabin, so that's sixteen guests total.

53:58 And that's enough, you know, that's that's quite enough people to get out there with us, and we will show them, you know, and share with them what we've been taught by the Sasquatch people. And like again, it's all about respect. You know, this is their land, their home, and they have been teaching us that. Yeah, the natives have told us never take more than twenty five percent and the earth will always be able to give. So when we crystal dig. We open at nine and we close at three, because that's twenty five percent of the day. So we estimate the natives estimate how much rock can be taken out, how many people can dig, and we only do twenty five percent of what is estimated that the overall is we don't need more than twenty five percent.

55:07 Wow, what a fascinating setup that you guys have, And I feel like you could probably write book after book after book of everything you've experienced there. I think this has been a great conversation, but I really would like to talk about So do you guys then have like a sign up thing on your website or how do people get set up if they want to check it out because it's limited to a certain amount per day. Yes, we have our reservation schedule on our website board Camp crystalmind dot com and they can get on our website and make a reservation for the Crystal digging and or an explained tour and then so you know it's there, and the course pay for it there through through PayPal on their credit card, so they can set it up that way.

56:04 Yeah, and and just email us if you want they have a group to have a private tour, just let us know, we'll see what we can work that out. Yeah, we do that too with groups, you know, But like I said, you know, we don't want a whole lot of people here, you know, at one time. That's it just that way, it's special. We want it to stay special. We don't want to abuse it or exploit it. Absolutely, I'd say that's that's a good way to handle it. Well, well, guys, it has been a pleasure talking to you. Do you either of you have any final thoughts about about what's going on there at the mind before we head out for you know what.

56:50 You're more than welcome to come out experience it for yourself. It's on me, don't worry about it, and we'd love to have you. Absolutely, thank you and I we are just like Orville said earlier, we have come to identify ourselves as the gatekeepers. We are the gatekeepers and the caregivers here. We've been given this responsibility for whatever reason, and we are very blessed and honored. You know that. I'm not saying we were chosen, but we were led here, you know, and to experience this has just been amazing, especial. She since we were you know, your typical unbelievers. It's okay, you know.

57:30 And we've had people come here that this was like, you know, they heard about our story. They were unbelievers too, you know, and they came away with maybe a different opinion. You know, maybe Bigfoot didn't walk right out of the woods and shake their hand. I think we'd all be horrified if that happened or fate, you know. But but you know, just whatever they experienced and hearing our story. And by the way, you said like books. Actually, I've written a couple of books already about our experience that are available on Amazon. And it all started with those three beams. So that's the title of these books is Beams. And you know, I've got one book one and book two, and I have a lot more writing to do, and I'm just praying that I will have the time because I have most all of our stories documented and a million pictures which I actually just emailed you a few pictures if you can use them. Yeah, and I can email you quite a few more as well. But it's just been like an honor to be able to experience this, to share it with others and through someone like you.

58:48 Thank you for this invitation. And all your listeners out there. If you can make it out to see us, great or you know, texts email us. Well, thank you again. We appreciate Yoah. Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six.

59:31 It's going to be. Even better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you just got to be there. We'll leave it that more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a track Deep in the Wild Forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

1:00:36 It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the code b sp like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two day pass for the price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can. Can get a little help with. The costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain or if you're a National park ranger or forestryt worker who's been told to stay quiet. If you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue sponder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

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