Braving the Wilds of Bluff Creek with the BC19 Expedition Team

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All right, welcome to the big
Foot Society Podcast. I've got the privilege

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of talking with mister Tate Hieronymus,
Jonathan Easily and Ron Read. How are

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we doing tonight, gentlemen, I
can't doing good? Doing good? Good

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about you, Jeremiah, Oh,
doing so good. I'm just happy to

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spend some time with you guys hang
out and but we are here tonight to

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talk about the BC nineteen expedition to
Bluff Creek that's coming up pretty rapidly.

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How far away is the BC nineteen
expedition now? About a month and a

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half from now, so that's coming
up pretty fast, it is, it's

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coming up really fast. When do
you guys start making your respective respective journeys

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out to the site. I'm not
sure when Jonathan's playing ongoing, like when

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he's playing on a leaving, but
I think Ron and I we're gonna I'm

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leaving on the twentieth of July,
so we should be meeting up in Lincoln,

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Nebraska. I think I'm like the
twenty first or twenty second something like

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that. Than caravan from there.
Yeah, these guys are coming from Florida,

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Wisconsin. I'm coming from Idaho,
so I have like a ten hour

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drive. It's not that bad for
me. I make it in a day.

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But you guys got quite the commute
from You're literally going from one coast

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to the other right date. Yeah, that's it's funny because I think no

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I was talking to Ian Carton about
this, but nope, I think I

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have a little further drive than RONDEZI. If you were to stretch Florida out

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towards the east more, my drive
would be longer because you wouldn't think it

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because I'm going up the dynamic is
weird of it. But I might have

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a longer drive. Ron does for
sure, for sure, for sure.

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We've got a few people I want
to shout out as we've got people rolling

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on in. We're up to sixteen
now. We've got the illustrious Mike Casey

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hanging out with us. How's it
going, sir? I hope you're not

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driving the trucks while you're watching this. We got mister Brown Dwarf of course,

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from the great state of California.
How's it going, dude. We've

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got hides and long grass. He's
cool, cool dude as well. He's

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got some great stories and uh oh, we've got Kevin Morrison here. Good

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to see you, sir. Now
that we've got a few people hanging out

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with us, does anyone want to
first give me a little summary of what

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the BC nineteen expedition is, Like, why even why are we? Why

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are we doing this this crazy journey? I don't know who wants to take

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that one for all right, I'll
say it simply. So. You have

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this giant area, and you have
this string of sightings and encounters, and

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they stretch from the Patterson Ghiblin film
site all along this kind of long corridor

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and they lead all the way out
to Laos Camp and then Layered Meadow.

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And I mean, you just keep
following that down down the map, but

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everything stops at one point and pass
that point no one has been no one

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has We haven't heard of anybody crossing
that point. There's from the Klamath to

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the to Laos Camp. There's this
giant, just gigantic section that's been for

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the most part unexplored. Um we
take's been asking around and people like resources

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like Robert Leiderman and a few others
that are well connected in the area,

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they haven't heard of anybody making that
trek. We might be the first people

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in decades to make this trek from
the mouth of the Klamath all the way

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up to the Patterson Ghiblin film site. And I'd say about eighty percent of

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that is untraveled, unseeing for the
most part, undocumented. So it's exciting.

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Who knows what we'll find. You
know, this is a place where

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nobody goes. But yet at the
point that at the point that this area

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kind of where everyone's gone, there's
been sightings and activity. So who knows

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what'll what'll be, what'll lie ahead
of us there. Really that's what's exciting

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to me. Oh exactly, it
really is a historic journey if if you

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think about it, Um, I
would even dare to say full of danger.

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Ron, Can you talk a little
bit about are you are you following

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a trail up up here, or
what is it that you'll be walking alongside

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or how is that going to go
down? Um? So, I think

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we're going to be fall the um
the creek itself, and we're going to

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be trying to navigate along that waterway
and in areas where it's particularly treacherous.

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If there's too many rapids or the
water gets too high, then we'll utilize

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what we can in the area,
like game trails or UM you know,

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any type of embankment, the kind
of navigate across. It's it's old school.

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I mean, it's it's we're doing
a version of of kind of bushwhacking,

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but without having to to UM actually
hack down vegetation because of course the

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creek is established a natural pathway.
But it's, uh, it'll be interesting.

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It's it's UM. I'm learning about
UM how to conduct wildlife surveys as

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an environmental field technician. And and
when you follow either a waterway like this,

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or you follow UM an established path
like a road or hiking trail UM,

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that's what you would call like a
non linear UM survey or wildlife And

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it's it's kind of like you're you're
using an established natural pathway to come into

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contact with other wildlife and survey it, you know. And that's just one

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of the things that we're going to
be doing when we explore that area.

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Is so cool. The other thing
that I'm really excited about, so it's

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not just that you guys are walking
up the creek, which viewers want to

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be aware at the beginning of this, there's actual rapids in this creek.

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It's not just going to be a
walk in the park. But at the

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same time, I believe all three
of you are going to be filming a

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documentary on this BC nineteen expedition.
TAKEE. Do you mind talking a little

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bit about how that how you guys
are going to film this expedition. So

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I know, like I'm going to
be filming for the Sabay series, then

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Jonathan's going to be filming in for
Western Bigfoot x Oration, and then Ron's

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going to be filming for Trailing Giants. And you know what's cool about it

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is outside of the filmmaking aspect,
but inside of research, we you know,

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we collaborate really good together. You
know, we kind of are already

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thinking something before somebody else says it. So I think in that aspect it's

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going to be good. But at
the same time, you're going to see

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that we work well. But when
it comes to the filmmaking aspect, it's

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going to be the same journey,
but through different ways like editing styles and

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filming styles and stuff like that.
It's going to be the same journey,

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but a completely different experience through three
different points of view, which is a

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really cool aspect, and that's something
we did a few years back with Small

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Town Monsters. Alex and you know
are doing Beyond the Trail, so that's

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going to be a really unique aspect
and this journey that we're doing this summer,

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it's very cool, and you know, I love the stuff you guys

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have put out so far. I'm
a big fan of it. Of course,

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if people want to see the episode
that I've been in Tate series Sasquats

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a Search for Sabe, you can
watch the Iowa episode, which is it's,

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weirdly enough, the most popular episode. I don't know why, but

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I know why. Wink wink,
wink. I'll never tell. The cool

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thing about this expedition is that it's
not just you three guys going on it.

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Jonathan, do you mind talking a
little bit about who are the what's

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the rest of the crew that's going
to be going on this trip and anyone

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that wants to help with that as
well. But we'll start with Jonathan,

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Well take kind of organize this.
But the people that aren't going along,

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one of them is Robert Laterman,
retired forest ranger from the humbold area from

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the Redwoods, and anybody who's met
him knows he's like the most knowledgeable guy

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and really safe, and he just
has like a story for everything you tell

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them, and it's always like it's
always an entertaining story. He's a cool

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such a cool guy, and I'm
really looking forward to, you know,

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backpacking this with him other people.
Ian Carton, it's coming out from Virginia.

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He's been remember the Bluff Creek project
a long time and if you talk

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to him, he's I mean he's
way into like the Harrison Gimblin era historical

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stuff. He's really fun to talk
to as well. So the people that

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are going along are really heavily invested. There's a few other people. Take

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you want to want to fill that
in. Yeah, So, like I'll

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kind of explain because there's for this
hike, it's this is what three months

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in the making or more guys,
and there's a lot of moving part.

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I mean, sure you could do
this hike solo without anything, but I

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think there's a big risk factor in
that. So to do this safely so

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that nobody gets hurt and it's taken
a village, you could use that term.

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So but we have like a base
camp group and that's gonna be damon

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irons who we've worked with before.
Terry Lindsay and Stephen Lindsay they're going to

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be in the bass group area at
the cell site. And then um,

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I think we're we're gonna have a
friend of mine. I don't want to

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say his name publicly, but he's
gonna be up there. He's gonna come

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be our safety checkpoint guy. He's
gonna go to each checkpoint that we're gonna

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be out. There's two of them, and then as far as the hiking

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group, it's gonna be Oh,
I forgot somebody else is going to be

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at the base camp. I think
hit Moral is going as far as I

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know, that should be fun.
And then as far as the hiking group,

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it's going to be myself, Ron
Read, Jonathan Easily, Jesus Bayon,

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Junior Brown Dwarf in the chat.
I know he's planning on going up

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there with us on the hike,
Robert Lderman, Ian Carton. So that's

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just I don't think I'm missing anybody. So that's going to be the hiking

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group. So there's a lot of
there's a lot of moving parts to this,

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and you can see on the map
here there's I think there's about five

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different areas where we're doing there's one, two, three, four, five,

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and those are going to be our
you know, stopping points for each

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day and how far we're going to
hike. And you can kind of see

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how far each place is from each
other because at the very top corner of

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the picture I made like a little
legend or whatever you want to call it.

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Ty, should we just kind of
follow the trail up and talk about

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it as as I scroll up here? Yeah, let's do it all right,

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let's if I can. I got
it, Okay, So we start

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out first here. Hikes start at
the Klamath River. Let's have you start

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out there too. I think that
is going to be the most tricky part.

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I think most of us when we've
been talking about you were in the

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Zoom meeting when we first heard our
Zoom meeting, and you heard our concerns

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about that. We're like, we're
thinking that's going to be the probably the

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hardest portion of the hike because for
anybody that's driven through Bluff Creek, that's

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Highway ninety six right there, and
that's the where Bluff Creek drains into the

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Klamath. Yeah, there is rapids
there, but I've never hiked down there

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to see how big those are,
because you're always seeing it for the bridge

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when you drive over the creek,
so it you know, it looks pretty

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gnarly. I'd imagine it won't be
very easy, but it's not going to

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be too hard, suspect. But
they're the winter up there has been pretty

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bad and there's been a lot of
snow, so the water level could actually

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be a lot higher than it's usually
been up there. So that adds another

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factor level or another. It adds
another level of difficulty to what we're doing.

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So what's the what's the backup?
Let's say you get to Bluff Creek,

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you get to the Klamath Hike in
area, and uh, what happens

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If it's just a raging river,
We're just gonna be bushwhacking on the side

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of the creek or what are we
thinking? I say, we puck her

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up and pray and keep going.
All right, All right, fair enough,

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Well let's let's just follow this on
up Tate here. So we're literally

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just following this creek here, Bluff
Creek. What do we got going on

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right here? So that is the
first safety checkpoint. Um. I've been

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talking to Steven Struffer and a few
others about it. So for our purposes

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that gentlemen, I'm not going to
name his name. We're just gonna call

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him Harvey. Um. That's where
Harvey's exposed to meet us with the car

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and supplies, and that's where we're
gonna evaluate how we're feeling, you know,

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to if it's like, Okay,
this creek is really really bad,

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we shouldn't continue it just because we
don't want to get hurt, that's where

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we're going to stop. But if
we're liking how everything's feeling, if it

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feels good, we're gonna keep going. And but that's right place. So

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depending on the road's condition, if
you can get to us, that's going

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to say a lot. But that's
our first base camp for the night.

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It's about four miles up Bluff Creek
from the start, nine hundred feet in

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elevation. So which four miles I
mean I've done four miles from the Bluff

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Creek bridge near last camp to the
film site, I think two and from

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there's about four miles. So it's
very it's very doable. It's not that

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hard by any stretch of the imagination
distance wise. The hardest part is just

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going to be the obstacles that we
have to traverse. Oh. Absolutely,

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I mean, and I'm guessing the
other time that you did those four miles,

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you were not in the creek doing
that. We were, Oh you

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were, Oh okay, okay,
cool, cool. It was. It

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was me, Um, a buddy
of mine, Austin uh Rob, Robert

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Leiderman, and Roddy Kelly. We
we hiked in the creek up to the

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film site and then back down to
where we parked their car, which is

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about four miles giver take which that
was in the creek. And none of

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us fell down once. The only
time I fell down was on land when

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we were like one hundred yards from
the car. You know, is wild,

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absolutely wild. Mike Casey has an
interesting idea, Have you guys bring

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a chainsaw lol for a fall?
Say? There, you never know,

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right, Mike, there you go. Let's continue up the creek here without

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a paddle. What do we got
going on up here? Let's see big

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Foot Creek creek so that you can
actually read about that in the Bluff Creek

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Project book that Robert did. Um, there's been talks about, like I

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mean, it obviously is named Bigfoot
Creek for a reason because apparently I think

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some of the older older loggers backed
up there in the day. They were

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saying they had some interesting encounters and
stuff during like the late sixties and maybe

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early fifties. So we're gonna that's
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that's the last place where our buddy
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And then after that there's no there's
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which is was it eight eight miles
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that's the last place we're gonna have
civilization. And in between Bigfoot Creek and

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Laos Camp, which is you could
see that the very top circle is Laos

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Camp and then the very bottom circle
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it's gonna be an interesting hike.
We were route beyond that, we don't

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know what we're gonna find it really, because I think from Bigfoot Creek down

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to Right's Place has been explored to
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from Bigfoot Creek to Last Camp,
I don't know. So wow, it

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should be very interesting. I want
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a second before we continue on to
I want to know from Ron, is

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Bandit going with you on this?
Yeah, the plan is to take Bandit.

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Um, you know, he's my
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on bringing a lot of his supplies, not making him carry his pack like

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he used to. He's now going
to be thirteen years old. Um,

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he's that Australia or Australian cattle dog
or blue Healer mixed breed and uh,

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you know what, he still gets
up and he goes on seven mile hikes

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with me, just like on a
moment's notice. He's getting he's he was

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pacing around the house trying to get
me up earlier to get out and about.

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So he's still very, very active. I think he'll be great.

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And in some of the creek and
some of the calmer waters, you know,

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that's a great opportunity for form some
good water therapy for his old joints.

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So I think it'll be a good
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going to have challenges like everyone else, but he's still full of surprises and

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he keeps up with everybody, you
know, so oh absolutely might this might

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be one of the last great adventures
that we take take him on because he's

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starting to enjoy the comfort of home
a little bit more than he used to.

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Um. But but yeah, I
think he's he's gung hoo, he's

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still ready for something, And yeah, I don't want to deny him of

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that if he's still willing and able. I like what Mark Paul is saying

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in the chatty. It's a good
thing. Yeah, it's true. Though,

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it's smart, you know, I
know, well, there's been times

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before where Bandit has sensed something correct
ron. Yeah, and they were Alex

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and Eli from Bigfoot Beyond the Trail. They were able to kind of capture

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a lot of that, and yeah, there was something going on. We

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were hearing Knox later in camp.
We thought that we caught a whoop on

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camera, and amidst all of that, Bandit was very high alert, very

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nervous. That also goes back to
twenty eighteen when we were hiking along a

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section of the big Foot Trail in
Mendocino National Forest and I had heard some

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knocks, thought I had heard some
scene something in low light, and when

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I was trying to put it all
together and make sense of it, Bandit's

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instincts were kind of going off.
And the following day he was very high

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tuned to something behind us on the
trail. It never revealed itself, so

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I don't know. Like bandit seems
to be aware of the presence of things

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right before strange things start happening.
And Yeah, he's been so valuable to

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me and the people that I work
with for kind of letting us know what's

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going on out there. The way
that this creek is set up, guys,

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is it you're going to be walking
up the creek and are there pretty

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steep sides on either side there's something
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the ridge, or how is this
set up geographically for this uh, for

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this creek? Well, if you've
you've if you're a fan of the Patterson

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Gimmon film, then you might have
seen that, Um was it seventy one

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or seventy two overview shot of the
film site that I think was it was

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it reneed to end and that took
that one. Um, like, it's

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it's a valley, it's a create
It's really it's a really steep on both

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sides of the film site. And
that's what it's going to be like the

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whole way through the hike. It's
going to be you're in a valley.

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UM, there's no quick way out
if there was an emergency. It's not

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like you're going to run up a
hill and be out. You have to

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climb up a really steep mountain.
Maybe it could be sixty to seventy degrees,

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you know the angle wise, that's
pretty steep. UM. So the

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only way out, the only way
out was back down or back up.

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So yeah, I was I was
going to point out that it like looking

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at the map itself, you can
see that there's these um contour lines that

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go up and up and up and
up and up from the creek. The

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closer they are together, that signifies
like a more um gain and elevation.

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it's a little bit of a shelf
or a gradual climb. But since

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these contour lines are on top of
each other, on top of each other

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up of graphic maps, UH use
that that style to kind of demonstrate that,

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yeah, it's we're in the valley
and we're gonna be looking up at

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a steep ridge m as we kind
of cut through this area. So the

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creek has been pretty much the only
geographical feature UM to dig into that earth

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and that rock, and so it's
been consistent. It's the water has flown

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there for for thousands of years and
and that's the only prominent um feature that's

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digging it. And so it's it's
in deep. It's it's deeply rooted and

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and and we're gonna be like deep
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these steep mountain areas. You know, Mark Mark brings up as an interesting

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point. Uh, Mark is is
a very cool guy. I front Tennessee.

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We'll leave it there. Um,
So is there a leader for this

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for this mission? Or how is
how are the team dynamics going to play

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out for this? Says something we've
thought about one man for himself And uh,

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you know, I am my own
team leader. And now I'm kidding.

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I think Tate, you've been You've
been pretty in charge of putting this

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whole thing together. But yeah,
I want to say I am a team

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leader, but like I'm definitely manning
everything, like the like I think a

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lot of the logistics and aspects of
it, trying to get everybody route wrangled

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together. Um, you know,
and I think I think if there's a

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team leader that I think you're gonna
have a lot of I don't want to

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say riff, I think, you
know what I'm trying to get at.

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I think there's a lot of us
here are very experienced in the woods,

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especially in this area. We've been
there so many times. I mean Ron's

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done the whole Appelation trail, Jonathan's
done a lot of backpacking and camping.

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Robert Leiderman is you know, retired
for a service park ranger, law enforcement.

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Ian Carton, you know, he
knows that area really well. So

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I think there's gonna be a lot
of us who are very experienced who can

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help each other out. And then
as far as like safety aspect, we

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do have Kit Moral, who's you
know, he is a retired firefighter,

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but nonetheless he's very experienced. And
then we do have a GPS monitor that

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we're gonna be using for any emergencies
in case that happens. And this is

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something I was talking to Ron about, I think a few weeks ago.

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It's not I don't really think we're
really worried about breaking a leg. You'd

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really have to mess up to break
your leg. I think more than anything

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that's going to happen, you could
easily break your ankle or roll your ankle,

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or besides that, you might break
your arm if you fall down and

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you catch yourself and you land wrong, but you'd really have to do something

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to break your leg um. But
even even with a broken ankle or rolled

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ankle, I think you can make
it out fairly easier on that than you

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would like a spiral fracture and a
leg or something, or even an even

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a broken arm for that matter.
It would not be fun or pleasant,

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but you can do it. I'm
curious about, you know, spending that

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much time hiking in the water up
the creek. How are you guys going

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to be prepared gear wise for spending
that much time in the creek hiking?

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Man, that's a tough one.
There's so many like precautions you have to

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take. I mean, that water
is pretty cold, right, and when

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you walk through it with shoes and
socks on for just a little bit,

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you start to kind of lose circulation. It's pretty cold. I think I

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hiked, like, I think it
was like two miles, well four miles

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in total, up a place called
it was just past the Patterson Gimblin film

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site, up a place called Scorpion
Creek and out of the three people in

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my group, all of us fell
one time. And it hurts because you're

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falling on like rock bed in the
creek, you know. And so I

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got to learn a little bit there. Um. But the thing is,

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so I got these like rubber shoes
from Walmart. I plan on using those

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as like water shoes. We'll see
how those fair. I'll also take a

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pair of boots with me, you
know, just in case and roll roll

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from there. But yeah, hiking
in the creek kind of sucks no matter

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what. It's slow going. Uh
it's cold, so yeah, man.

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And the other thing about like preparation, like especially for food wise, that's

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going to determine a lot if the
road conditions for Harvey to get to.

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Um, if you can't get to
those spots, then we have to bring

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our food in on our packs because
you know, at least to the second

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uh checkpoint, a lot of our
food could be in his car and then

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from there he would take it,
which would save us a lot of,

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um, you know, a lot
of energy carrying that stuff. So if

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we can't, if he can't get
to those spots, then we have to

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take it on our on our packs
and just deal with at that point,

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Oh, absolutely, I want to
take Oh go ahead, sorry real yeah,

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just real quickly. But as far
as like fresh water goes, you

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know, if you get a couple
of live straws and then you have a

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know, some bottles to fill up
in, that creek is fairly clean.

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And I talked to Rowdy He's like, oh, I drank it from that

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creek with no nothing, no problem. So water we're pretty good. So

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that's the nice thing. There you
go. I wanted to take a quick

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minute to shout out a few things. We've got almost fifty people in the

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chat. It's great to see all
you here hanging out with us on Sunday

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night before a Memorial Day. I've
got these gentlemen's YouTube channels, I believe

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in the show notes for this.
If I don't, I'll have that in

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Hit the bell so you get notified. I have new episodes every Monday and

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Friday. But if you have any
questions for these guys about the BC nineteen

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expedition. You're welcome to put those
in the chat and we will work those

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into the live stream. Just make
sure that they are all in all caps

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so that I can see them easily. So Tate, I remember, you

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know you allowed me to be in
the team planning zoom call, which was

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really cool. And one thing that
I noticed or that made things get really

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serious for me was there was an
area of the of the expedition where you

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know, you don't have cell service. You're kind of it's like a point

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of no return, right right.
That's uh, that's after Bigfoot Creek.

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Okay, right after that, because
if you go so like a gem in

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a little bit of German. Yeah, ye, so you can see Bigfoot

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Creek, that's the last like place
or a car could get to, providing

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that the roads are fine. Then
if you just go up the creek kind

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of it kind of goes a little
to the left and the up h that's

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Fish Creek. There's we camp there. No, there's no road or cell

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service. There's no cell service anywhere
up there at all except for um,

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the cell site. Then if you
keep going up a little bit more that

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it's uh, last camp. Now, if you go up to the very

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top of the picture, here there
you go. Do you see that where

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it says there there you go.
So from the start of the creek,

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I think screw up a little more. Is that all the way up there?

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It is? Yeah, from the
hike start to Rights Place, which

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is the first base camp, that's
four miles. From Right's Place to Bigfoot

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Creek that's three point three. Now, from Bigfoot Creek to Fish Creek that's

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five miles, and then from there
from Fish Creek to last camp that's three.

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So you know that's that's a good
that's a good way. It's eight

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miles from Bigfoot Creek to Laos Camp. M that's eight miles that nobody's gonna

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be able to get to us something
happens. Otherwise, if something does happen,

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everybody's gonna have to drop what they're
doing and to leave their gear there

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and then hike somebody out. It's
going to be an ordeal. But again,

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I don't really think that's going to
happen. I think the war it's

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going to happen as somebody will twist
an ankle. That's worst case scenario in

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my opinion. That's what I first
see. Hopefully hopefully hopefully yes, yeah,

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hopefully fingers crossed. We have a
friend in the chat. We have

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a few of them, but we
see pedicoffs here. Who the heck are

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these bozos? Good to see you, buddy, Who the heck? Who

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the heck are these cities slickers?
Yeah? Right, tell me a little

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bit about how at these camp sites. How are you going to be h

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how's your camp going to be set
up? Are you doing hammocks or tents

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or what do you guys packing in? Well, I mean we're gonna bring

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our bride bride lights, so we'll
have that alex um and then uh yeah,

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I'm bringing in a tent just because
I don't want to deal with mosquitos

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there. I remember one time I
got bit up by mosquito. Was really

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bad. It was not fun.
So so that's for me. Yeah,

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just tend to roll up sleeping mat
if you can bull up air tiny.

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I'm a good pack those are those
are handy? Go ahead, I'm gonna

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take yeah, man, I'm gonna
take my Uh. I got this sweet

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little tent. It's called a six
Moons Designs Lunar solo and uh it weighs

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like just to tick over a pound
pokes up with your treking poll and it's

405
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.480
just this awesome, awesome backpacking tent
tent. I've had it in the uh,

406
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.839
the wind, the rain, and
it's just such a little tiny fortress.

407
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:37.039
And uh, you know this is
all primitive. There's gonna be no

408
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:42.720
flat spot, no designated flat spot
like Laos camp to set your stuff up

409
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.039
at, no way, So we're
gonna have to kind of find our own

410
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:50.519
ways to flatten out spots and uh
set up that way. So I can

411
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.279
even tell you what our camp is
going to look like until we're there.

412
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.279
But as far as gear goes,
yeah, man, that's gonna be a

413
00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:00.839
sweet setup that my lunar solo hasn't
let me down and box up to about

414
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.200
i'd say about a foot. It's
a tiny little thing and it does get

415
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:08.759
cold by the creek creek, so
I am taking a like a Marmot fifteen

416
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:15.160
sleeping bag. Bluff Creek is a
weird place, so it will be like

417
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.880
one hundred degrees in the day and
you can get into the forties. It's

418
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:21.799
got in the thirties at night when
I've been there. Yeah, So like

419
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.440
you have these drastic like temperature changes, so you'll be in like a tank

420
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:28.240
top and shorts and at night you'll
be all bundled up in gloves and a

421
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:34.960
jacket. It's weird. Ron I'd
love to hear from you, to hear

422
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:39.480
what your ideas are for what you're
packing in to for your overnights. So

423
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:45.240
so, because we're going in an
area that is so saturated with bigfoot reports,

424
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.200
like and if we get an opportunity
later, I would love to take

425
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.640
a really quick tour of just scrolling
up the map and realize that every checkpoint

426
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:58.720
that we have has sightings and significant
Bigfoot historical events happen. Yes, right,

427
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:01.839
that's a great idea. Let's do
that later. But definitely because of

428
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:07.279
that, like, I'm very like
research heavy on it, like and like

429
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.239
one of the things it's going to
be a nightmare to pack for me because

430
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:15.400
I want to bring in different gear
to like test the quality of the water,

431
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.519
look at like soil mixtures, and
start doing what I just learned as

432
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:24.239
a field technician to kind of understand
bigfoot habitat and what makes it unique and

433
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:29.840
are there other places in the US
that are like it? But beyond that,

434
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:37.800
La tent or my sleeping structure.
I'm planning on bringing in a ground

435
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:45.239
blind used by hunters as kind of
an experimental research technique for bigfooting. And

436
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:50.639
they make these blinds now that like
our sea through fabric that are camouflaged from

437
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:57.360
the outside and whoever's in the inside
can see out and and basically I'll pop

438
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:01.599
up this this blind and I'll have
one hundred and eighty agree view of the

439
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:06.320
forest. And the idea is,
if something comes creeping into our camp,

440
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:10.559
thinking everybody's snoring in as a sleep, somebody's a century posted in the blind

441
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:16.000
and they might see something under the
moonlight. And we'll also plan on having

442
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:22.960
a thermal unit displayed just to get
a wide field of vision. And I

443
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:27.679
was telling Tate I was playing with
it, and I got it on another

444
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:32.079
device that I can actually rotate and
get a three hundred and six sixty degree

445
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:38.199
view from outside the tent and then
again be inside being the dark, and

446
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:43.920
be concealed from something looking towards our
camp. Oh yeah, me and me

447
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.159
and Ron have probably spent a few
hours talking about like idea, because like

448
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:51.280
we want to film inside the blind, but if you're filling with night vision

449
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.800
you can actually see light, and
like if you're looking from the outside into

450
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:59.199
the blind, you can see light. So I was like thinking, Ron,

451
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:00.000
I were like, I was,
dude, what if you get like

452
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:06.159
the you like the one way like
sheet of paper or whatever you put on

453
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.280
a window so it's like a one
way mirror. It's like, what if

454
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:12.480
you get that and you put that
over the ir so there is still see

455
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.920
you out, but nothing can see
in. And I think Ron messed with

456
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:20.440
that and he got something to work
with that. And then so we've been

457
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:24.000
coming up with like different ideas of
how we can stay invisible inside the blind

458
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:30.840
but still look out without being seen, or you know, just different ideas

459
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.960
like that. So we've literally been
on the phone for several hours talking of

460
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.880
the just coming up with ideas.
And the other thing about it too,

461
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:43.519
is like what we're realizing is a
lot of the hunting technology in this field

462
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.840
is designed to be concealed by so
that it can be applied for various different

463
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:53.119
animal species. So if you're looking
around long enough, you'll find hunting equipment

464
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:58.599
that would be really beneficial in the
right context for bigfoot research. And one

465
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:02.199
of the things I like about these
lines is Um, there's no zippers.

466
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:07.639
How many times do we zip something
when when we hear something in the camp

467
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.719
and we try to unzip and get
out, but we never get past the

468
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:16.039
tent door before we hear something scurry
off. There's these silent sliders that are

469
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:22.840
lined on these so that hunters can
see the animal lower the window, line

470
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.119
up a shot, and get their
game. And we're going to be doing

471
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:29.199
that with cameras and so whatever walks
into our camp, we won't even know

472
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:34.760
that the windows being opened and we're
filming them. And this was something cool

473
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:42.320
that kept suggested to me. So
I think maybe it might be is that

474
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.800
Fish Creek? Is that the second? That's base camp three? So I

475
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.440
think at base Camp three, I
think we're going to spend two nights instead

476
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.079
of one. That way we can
like take an extra day to explore.

477
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:59.079
Um, you'd be like, okay, give us a break from hiking the

478
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:01.719
one day you know, from break
of hiking, and it gives us time

479
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:07.079
to explore, maybe do some extra
drone shots and you know, b roll

480
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.639
shots and interviews and stuff like that
to kind of just take a break.

481
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:15.920
And then we finished the hike off
going to Laos Camp and you know,

482
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.760
last camp is gonna be nice,
like when we get to Laos Camp.

483
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.599
I think when we get to Fish
Creek, we're gonna be like, dude,

484
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:24.519
this, we're almost done. We've
made it. Then when we get

485
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:30.639
to Laos Camp, it's gonna be
like very very nice, and it's just

486
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:34.599
very it's a very easy hike from
there to the film site, so it's

487
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:40.000
gonna be really exciting. Are you
bringing any uh um, Oh my goodness,

488
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:45.760
I'm planking pheromone chips. You're bringing
any pheromone chips with you? Nope?

489
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:52.840
No, no, all right,
takes natural musk is going to be

490
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:58.480
that's true. That's you guys are
gonna have to We'll leave with that.

491
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:04.199
We got the creek right there.
We're good. But we've all decided that

492
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:09.480
we're all gonna like jar underwear and
one one thing hanging on like some rope

493
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.000
somewhere away from camp. There you
go, Wow, you'll be in legendary

494
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:20.039
science too, for sure. Take
yeah, good stuff, have something good.

495
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:23.440
Oh my goodness, we're gonna get
kicked off YouTube. All right,

496
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:29.039
Viewers, if you've got any questions, feel free to throw those in the

497
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:36.360
chat. But ron I liked your
idea earlier where if we could go up

498
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:44.039
this expedition route and kind of talk
about maybe places that Bigfoot has been seen

499
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:52.039
previously, or maybe places you might
think there could be some action. Well,

500
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:58.800
real quickly before that, can you
scroll up to Rights Place to the

501
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.079
right a little bit and go to
the right to the right to the right

502
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:06.719
of Rights Place. See, now
go to the right a little bit.

503
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:13.639
It's either right, it's either Rice
Place or Bigfoot Creek. Can go up

504
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:17.320
to the Bigfoot Creek. Sorry,
okay, I'm going now scroll to the

505
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.280
right a little bit. There it
is so right there. Can you circle

506
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:28.360
those two little lakes right here?
Okay, that's Twin Lakes Now, that's

507
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.039
actually where we're going to be headed
after the Bluff Creek hike. Really so

508
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:37.920
and big Foot Creek there's Cliff has
researched that area. There's been supposed to

509
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:42.960
Bigfoot activity in Bigfoot Creek, and
it's it's literally, will I say,

510
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.920
a stone's throw away from Twin Lakes. But Twin Lakes also is known to

511
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:51.199
have really good big Foot activities.
I just wanted to throw that out there

512
00:40:51.199 --> 00:41:01.599
real quickly. Sorry, round go
ahead. So, so, the one

513
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:05.199
thing that I was looking at is
we got the hike start right here,

514
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.920
and you know there's there are reports
right there at the mouth of the Klamath

515
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:13.119
River. I plan on reaching out
to some of the little local businesses the

516
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:19.079
campgrounds and seeing if they have any
good stories, but I haven't no no,

517
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:22.920
no development on that at this point. But then up there to the

518
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:28.079
left, you'll see fish Lake and
there are several reports from that Fish Lake

519
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.880
area, and you can see Bluff
Creek goes right behind it. And I

520
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.960
went out there in twenty eighteen kind
of check it out, and it was

521
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:37.880
closed, and I mean, it's
just a really cool spot, but tons

522
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.840
of people go there. It's a
camp developed campground with a it's pretty cheap

523
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.519
to stay the night there, I
think maybe ten bucks or something, but

524
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:50.519
they stock the fish and so it's
a good like fishing camp experience, very

525
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:55.199
popular area, lots of bigfoot reports
and you know you can maybe look and

526
00:41:55.280 --> 00:42:00.239
see that, hey, maybe something
walking along Bluff Creek dipped into Serpent Team

527
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:05.239
Creek heard some noises and came out
to investigate the human commotion at Fish Lake.

528
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:12.159
I heard a report of somebody that
was out there with her her parents

529
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.760
or I think her dad and maybe
one of their siblings, and they were

530
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.320
sleeping in the back of his truck
while he was doing some fishing at night,

531
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.840
and then they were woken up by
like this screaming and they all were

532
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.480
kind of woke up, stirred around. The next next person over at the

533
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:34.800
other campsite was like saying, Bigfoot. It's big footman, I'm getting out

534
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:40.239
of here. And then the father
wasn't like intimidated at that point, but

535
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:44.440
then he says, I just go
back to sleep. I'm still I'm I'm

536
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:46.519
still gonna go fishing here. You
know, I'll wake you up if we

537
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:52.519
need to. And then they wake
up to the truck like speeding out of

538
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:58.159
the campground like fifteen miles an hour
on like gravel roads and or maybe it

539
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:01.440
might be paid at certain points there. Um, But like they remember seeing

540
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:06.320
the fishing pole, their dad's like
prized fishing pole fall out the back of

541
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.159
the truck and then trying to scream
like stop, stop, stop, you

542
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:13.280
lost your pole. He didn't stop, never went back for it. And

543
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:19.480
she seems to think that maybe like
after the initial screams, he heard something

544
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:24.159
else or saw something and never spoke
of it. That's funny Alex one,

545
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:29.519
Ron, that's a that's an awesome
story. I was also distracted by Alex's

546
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:36.280
hilarious reference to previous expeditions Bravo concern. All right, well, Ron,

547
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.119
let's continue. If this is great, do you guys have anything else?

548
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.920
If I know, we're covering a
lot of ground, but you guys might

549
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.679
know much more stuff, so you
should like chime into if you're aware of

550
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.679
anything. The only thing I can
add to that is that fish Lake.

551
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:54.800
This gentleman to you know him,
Dick Levine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

552
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.599
yeah, he told me that.
I this is what he said,

553
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.880
that Jerry Crewe found tracks near fish
Lake. I was even telling me,

554
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.159
you go into it and there's a
little turn off. He goes, Now

555
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:09.239
it's all overgrown, but it used
to be a turnoff, and that he

556
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:15.280
had found tracks there initially. So
I don't know. That's what he told

557
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.199
me. And every time I think
a fish Lake reminds me of that story.

558
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:23.400
Well yet, all right, let's
continue up the trail. Guys,

559
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:36.360
Love Creek. They're bluffing. I
mean, this was scrolling as fast as

560
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:42.280
we're going to be hiking this,
we'll probably walking a little faster. Yeah,

561
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:45.840
So Bigfoot Creek. We talked about
Bigfoot Creek. Is it was it

562
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.679
Bigfoot Creek or the next spot up? Um, can you seem out a

563
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.960
little bit? Yep, it was
Bigfoot Creek is where Robert is mentioned it

564
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.960
in the book and where Cliff is
research. That's I know, Cliff okay

565
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.159
from what Robert told me. I
don't know if Cliffs hiked from Laos Camp

566
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:06.719
to Bigfoot Creek or if he just
drove to Bigfoot Creek because it's like I

567
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.199
said, Bigfoot Creek. There's a
road that takes you down to that spot.

568
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.400
So I don't know. When trying
to find the Patterson Gimblin film site,

569
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:20.840
Cliff said, Cliff Brackman, that's
where he began because he was like,

570
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:27.199
oh, Bigfoot Creek. So he
went there somehow, so he either

571
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:30.159
drove or walk it. So that's
the issue, you know, the elephant

572
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:36.760
in the room we can talk about
later. But UM, go back to

573
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:40.840
that. I was gonna say,
up there by Fish Creek you have Onion

574
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:45.800
Mountain, and in that vicinity,
I mean like Laird Meadows near Onion Mountain,

575
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:49.920
You've got Onion Mountain, Onion Lake. Like tracks have been found out

576
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:54.920
there for for years. Um.
And so that's another spot that's on Blue

577
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:59.519
Creek Mountain usually between Onion Mountain and
Blue Creek Mountain. There's so much,

578
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.960
so much history of finding tracks and
I know, um Bob Titmans pulled a

579
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:08.679
lot out of those areas, UM
found some things. So that's three tracks

580
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:14.280
that Patterson, Robert and Bob Roger
and Bob came down to investigate where in

581
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:20.360
between their Blue Creek and Onion Mountain. Yep. Wow, I mean this

582
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.320
place has a lot of history.
Um. Just everything we're going to pass

583
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:30.480
by has been known for some big
food activity to some degree. And the

584
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:36.679
fact that we're hiking and a place
that nobody ever frequents, Um, I

585
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.639
think we might have a good chance
of spotting something. And there's more I'll

586
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:45.519
say to that later, but continue
with what Ron's wanting to do. Also,

587
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:51.840
just to make it super clear for
in the chat, Yeah, go

588
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:55.199
ahead, this is this, Uh
yeah, the expedition is northern California,

589
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:02.559
Bluff Creek, thank you. All
right, Well you're the Redwoods Fish Creek.

590
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:10.000
Then good old Laos Camp, which
in itself has you know, a

591
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:15.880
knowledge and history of different sightings and
you know it's where also Thomas like held

592
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:22.800
the nineteen fifty eight Pacific Northwest Expedition
too. So just last Camp alone has

593
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:29.480
a lot going for it. You've
a lot of people, there's a lot

594
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.440
of stories about Laos Camp. We
have stories about Laos Camp. Stuff,

595
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:38.440
we've recorded, it's been sighting.
Bobo saw one there. But south of

596
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:43.760
Laos Camp, no one knows what's
out there. So that's the That's the

597
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:51.440
thing is, you guys really laid
that out in an awesome way, how

598
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:55.920
much history is in this area,
and then you're you're literally hiking through it

599
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:01.239
and almost an unexplored part of it. And man, I think there's a

600
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:06.000
chance, there's a there's a huge
chance you guys are gonna get some crazy

601
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.760
action on this, And I'm just
super excited for you. What's cool?

602
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:14.159
Right, That's right? Yeah,
Well here's what I was thinking. I

603
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:15.480
was asking Robert and Steven this.
I was like, have you do you

604
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:21.079
guys know of anybody that's ever found
tracks, you know, besides Bob Gilmin,

605
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.480
you know, on Bluff Creek itself, not just at the film site,

606
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:28.920
but like Bluff Creek as the creek
itself, So like if we found

607
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:34.519
big foot prints on Bluff Creek during
the hike. We could be the first

608
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.519
ones. And I don't know how
many years I've actually found big foot prints

609
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.480
on the creek of Bluff Creek,
which would be historic in a way,

610
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:46.320
you know, because the last time
creeks were pulled it was sixty seven on

611
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:55.159
the creek itself. Will you have
plaster supplies with you or something similar in

612
00:48:55.280 --> 00:49:02.920
order to ye get track casting?
Wow, we're watching. I mean with

613
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:07.119
any backpacking trip, especially over this
many days, you're constantly watching, like

614
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:12.679
every analyst you put into your backpack
because everything adds up very very quickly.

615
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:17.679
If anyone's gone backpacking on a multiday
hike, you know, you know,

616
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.920
every little thing counts, and so
yeah, we're gonna have to account for,

617
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.119
you know, plaster cast all of
our equipment, and you know,

618
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:30.599
like I have friends that do backpacking
videos of their long journeys, but we're

619
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.599
kind of loaded up even more than
them because we have night cameras. I

620
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:38.079
have like three or four cameras that
I constantly rotate through, you know,

621
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:43.000
just but if I was just going
on a hike or backpacking trip, no

622
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:46.159
big foot involved, no night stuff
involved, my pack weight decreases about you

623
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:50.639
know, five or six pounds,
maybe more. So we really have to

624
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:52.039
watch it. I think we're all
going to carry a little bit of plaster

625
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:57.039
cast. We don't want to be
those people that find tracks and you know,

626
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.480
just have a cool story about it. Alex Tayson about yeah, Alex,

627
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.639
I will have the light rr my
phone. But you know, nothing

628
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.920
beats nothing beats a physical track.
You know. It's like, why do

629
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:15.840
people buy CDs still or tapes or
records. It's not about listening to it

630
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.840
on your phone. It's about the
physical cast. It's like, there's something

631
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:23.119
cool about that. So it's pretty
backup though. I mean to have that

632
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:27.760
as a backup, that three D
app right, Yeah, So I give

633
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.840
you an example that was, like
there was a cast on the Olympic Peninsula

634
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:34.719
recently. It's they made a cast
to this track and it didn't look very

635
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.320
amazing, but they made a three
D scan and I swear it. I

636
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.400
mean, just this is what I
think. I think that scan was better

637
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:45.440
and more telling than the cast itself. So I don't know, I think

638
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.320
it should be like a new thing
that people kind of use to double proof

639
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:57.559
they're find to tapes. Credit though
a photo opportunity like this is way better

640
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:06.760
than this. Yeah. Yeah,
that's really funny. Ron, Yeah,

641
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:13.800
totally, man, I love the
proper that's so good. Did you have

642
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:17.760
that ready just for that moment the
whole time? Yeah? I texted Ron

643
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:20.320
before we started. I was like, wrong, I want to say this

644
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:27.079
to be ready with this for this
particular skid. You're muted, buddy.

645
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.800
Oh okay, So I just had
it from the last interview, um that

646
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:36.079
I didn't even use it, and
then um, and then I just had

647
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:43.159
him at my feet conveniently, no
pun intended. You had mentioned there was

648
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:47.760
an elf and in the room.
Do you want to bring up that whatever

649
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:52.199
that is? And hopefully it's so
the elephant in the room. Get you

650
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.119
could call it an elephant you if
you want. But Cliff said he was

651
00:51:55.480 --> 00:52:00.320
Cliff or Robert said Cliff has done
that high. I don't know if he

652
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.800
did, because when he was looking
for the film site, I don't know

653
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.760
if he's hiked from last Camp to
big Foot Creek looking for it. It's

654
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:12.320
very well he could have. I
don't really know. Um, but if

655
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.199
you did, I don't. I
won't see any pictures that he posted anywhere

656
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:20.159
from it. The first time.
You'll see it on camera. Yeah,

657
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:24.559
this is like clear crystal four k
exactly. This is gonna be the first

658
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:32.079
time anybody's actually documented it publicly and
released that footage. Um, So that's

659
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:38.000
that's gonna be pretty cool. It's
and that's why it's a historical journey because

660
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:42.320
as far as I know, we're
the first big foots to hike the whole

661
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:47.400
thing and film it and publish it
publicly. So that's what makes it historical.

662
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:52.320
And plus the other thing too is, um you know when you look

663
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:55.480
at like the fifty eight expedition in
Bluff Creek or when Roger and Bob went

664
00:52:55.559 --> 00:53:00.360
there, you know, yeah,
sure Roger and Bob did or walk in

665
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:05.639
the creek a lot while they were
there, But I don't think anybody's done

666
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:09.400
like what we're gonna do in the
area, because everybody's sticking to the roads,

667
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:13.679
you know, because it's the easiest
way to travel in there. No

668
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:17.039
one's going to take their packs and
hike through up the creek and then I'm

669
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:22.000
back then to do you know several
day a hike like that just on a

670
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.960
pack, what Roger and By would
have to bring would be ridiculous, Like

671
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:29.519
the amount of food and gear,
and it would be a lot heavier.

672
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:34.840
It would be just a lot harder
to do. So you know, as

673
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:39.519
technology has gotten better, gear has
gotten lighter and easier to use and smaller,

674
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:44.719
it makes something like this more doable. And then to go along with

675
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:47.880
what Jonathan saying, Yeah, if
we weren't filming anything, this would be

676
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:52.440
a lot easier and our packs would
be a lot lighter. But like I'm

677
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.559
bringing a couple of cameras and a
GoPro and then a drone to get drone

678
00:53:55.559 --> 00:54:00.159
shots of it. So it's like, wow, you have to if you're

679
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.159
especially if you're you know, you're
doing a documentary, so you got to

680
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:06.159
film it. You can't film without
cameras. But you also need to live.

681
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:08.960
You need to have food and water
to you know, be comfortable on

682
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:15.960
this hike and do it safely.
So that's where it gets tricky. I

683
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.000
think on this hike is the you
know, filming aspect. If we were

684
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:22.800
just doing big foot stuff, one
little thermal would be totally fine, and

685
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.119
you know, we weren't worried about
filming, but we're the fact that we're

686
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:30.599
filming is going to make it a
lot more challenging. Would do we Uh,

687
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:39.440
the actual date is not in public. Roundabouts round about July August there.

688
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:47.239
Yeah, fantastics coming up very soon. Take is this a Is this

689
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:53.480
an expedition where people can as well
a few things? Can they support the

690
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:59.119
expedition financially? And also is there
any way they can follow along as you

691
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:04.079
guys go on the expedition? So
yeah, I talked to Ron and Jonathan.

692
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:08.679
We've been talking about this, so
anybody can support the high We made

693
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:14.519
a special cash app for it,
so anybody can support. I think you

694
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:17.440
have it in the notes the show
notes, Jeremiah, So, I think

695
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:23.000
it's BC nineteen X for expedition at
you know, cash app so you can

696
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:29.440
support their you know, that's going
to go towards any medical supplies or any

697
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:34.480
gas and anything we would possibly need
if something goes wrong and stuff like that.

698
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:39.280
But they're like, if there's people
that want to be a sponsor and

699
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:45.280
get like their logo from their YouTube
or their name and the credits or something

700
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:52.559
of what we're doing, there's a
sponsorship fee which is about sixty five dollars

701
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.800
to do that, and then we'll
put your logos and like your name in

702
00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:00.280
the credits of our films. And
stuff like that, and on like a

703
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:06.480
probably going to make a poster or
sure something that will put everything on sy

704
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:09.800
send that out to people too.
So I'm kind of working on that end.

705
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:14.360
But and then the other thing,
what was the other thing a hasket?

706
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:21.039
I forgot? Oh it can?
Is there a way that people can

707
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:27.920
follow along with you as the expedition
is going on? So I'm working with

708
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.719
Scott from the Big Foot Mapping Project
on this idea. So we're gonna have

709
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:38.159
a GPS tracker. Depending on the
tracker itself, We're going to try and

710
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:43.760
do a live tracking so people can
monitor our progress live as we're hiking this

711
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:49.800
creek. So whether or not that
works. If it does, then there

712
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:53.280
should be a link where you can
click on and watch our progress live.

713
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:59.239
That's awesome. And then hopefully the
tracker doesn't like, you know, go

714
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.039
out in your Oh my goodness,
what happened to take you know? That

715
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:07.519
would be wild. But right we're
we're we're hoping somebody does die because it

716
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:14.239
makes you a great footage. It
gets so many views. Obviously, hy

717
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:19.000
everyone's coming back alive. That's that's
priority number one. Well maybe maybe alive

718
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:23.239
or not in one piece, but
I'm curious for a question for each of

719
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:31.039
you. You know, what is
your number one goal personally for this expedition.

720
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:38.920
I want to see the unseen,
you know what I mean? Like

721
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:43.559
that's that's so cool to me,
Like I mean, you take bigfoot out

722
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:46.719
of the equation, it's still cool. You're just walking up some place that

723
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:52.639
hasn't been seen by anyone in a
very very very long time, if at

724
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:59.360
all. Um And you know,
when you're just hiking up somewhere, you're

725
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:04.960
doing you're you're observant, but to
a limited extent, when you're trying to

726
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:09.159
find something elusive that's supposedly hiding out
there, you know, you become even

727
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:14.039
more observant. We might who knows, who knows what we'll see with that

728
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:19.639
level of the heightened level of observation
that we're taken into there. So I'm

729
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:21.840
just excited to see new places.
Who knows, well, just see some

730
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:27.760
awesome waterfall or you know, ideally
it'd be nice to find a nice set

731
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.599
of tracks leading out of the canyon, right, but we'll see. Who

732
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:35.079
knows what'll who knows what it'll bring? Who knows That's what I'm looking forward

733
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:39.320
to. Who knows what I'm looking
forward to. I think. I think

734
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:46.199
for me it's um finding out what
makes Bluff Creek special because it's it's taken

735
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:51.840
us a while, and it's it's
it's it's unusual because it's been there right

736
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:53.920
in front of us, right in
our faces all this time. To say

737
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:58.880
that, Okay, Blue Creek,
Mountain, Onion Mountain, Fish Lake,

738
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:05.400
Scorpion Creek, Bigfoot Creek, all
these places have something in common, and

739
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:12.000
it's bigfoot and Bluff Creek. And
I really want to understand why Bluff Creek

740
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:17.639
is one of the best places to
go if you're looking for Bigfoot. And

741
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:27.280
I think by exploring it and getting
past that barrier of our human dwelling and

742
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:32.239
getting out there right in the middle
of the creek literally, we might start

743
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:37.920
making observations and have a better understanding
of what bigfoot habitat is. And that

744
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:43.199
knowledge goes beyond six Rivers national forests, and you go in the United States

745
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:49.880
or the world looking for undiscovered hominids, you'll have that understanding of what they

746
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:54.679
might need to be alive, and
you can get right down to the effective

747
00:59:54.719 --> 01:00:04.000
research that every bigfooter wants to conduct. I love that. Take go ahead,

748
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.920
man, I'd have to pick a
little bit of both from Jonathan and

749
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:14.760
Iron. On that one, I
would agree, And then I don't know,

750
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:17.760
long term, it would be nice
to be in the history books for

751
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:24.480
you know, Bluff Creek, you
know Patterson Gawin film site research and being

752
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:29.519
the history books with these guys,
because obviously this hike is not doable with

753
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:34.679
a group of people, and I
want to do this hike with people I

754
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.159
trust and work really well with.
And what better group of people than Ron

755
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:43.599
and Jonathan everybody else I mentioned so, and I think I look at it

756
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:47.280
as like, you know, I've
done all you know, this is how

757
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:53.519
far I've come. It's pretty Uh, it's a milestone in my big footing

758
01:00:55.559 --> 01:01:00.400
big footing career, you could say, So it's pretty cool. It's like

759
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:06.400
all that I've done was accumulated to
this one moment um. Who knows,

760
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:09.599
this could be the only last big
thing I do to being known for and

761
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:21.039
then I become a mediocre researcher,
Like you know, kid that's hilarious.

762
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:29.880
We love kid us right, funny, that's funny. I love lives would

763
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:32.360
take Did you hear I said?
Kit Moral? Yeah? I know?

764
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:36.679
Kit Moral is the man no,
I just wanted to make sure that you

765
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:40.400
heard he's he's a big Footer of
the Year for many years in a row.

766
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:46.440
Now I don't think anymore, Guys, this has been an awesome interview.

767
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:51.639
I want to make sure that we
don't, you know, before we

768
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:54.480
start wrapping things up, that if
there's anything else that you wanted to make

769
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:59.719
sure you talked about regardless expedition,
I want to make sure you have the

770
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:07.159
chance to do it now. If
not, I would love to give you

771
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:13.119
the chance to tell people that are
watching. And also this will be on

772
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:17.519
the podcast how they can keep up
to date with your bigfoot research. Besides

773
01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:29.360
this expedition good moral um so,
so I'll take I'll take that one.

774
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.639
Um So. One thing I was
gonna say about the expedition and this kind

775
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:37.880
of ties in together is um even
though we won't be able to really share

776
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:42.519
while we're out in the creek,
we won't have cell reception or anything like

777
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:47.280
that. Um. I plan on
doing a couple of uh like small writings

778
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:52.199
and stuff about observations along the way, and for a long time I've posted

779
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:57.960
a lot of my initial observations and
photographs on my Trailing Giants Facebook page,

780
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:06.519
so um, that might be some
of the earliest forms of content from after

781
01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:09.119
our hikes. So that might be
so, so it might be beneficial for

782
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:14.159
somebody to follow my Facebook page.
That's also where I'm going to end up

783
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:16.320
sharing a lot of my content.
I'm coming back from a hiatus. I

784
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:21.639
had to get some gear updates and
line up some better work life balance and

785
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:28.760
stuff. But I plan on pushing
some content through YouTube and other media platforms,

786
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:31.400
and a lot of that's going to
be shared on that Trailing Giants Facebook

787
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:35.400
page. So that's the best way
to stay up to date with my stuff.

788
01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:38.239
And as of tonight or tomorrow morning, I'm going to be heading out

789
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:45.079
for a couple of weeks in Colorado. We've got some rocky mountain big footing,

790
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:47.360
and so I'm like, I'm here
and I'm hearing bandit Wine downstairs,

791
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:52.280
and I want to i want to
get that gear in the car and get

792
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:55.119
ready to go. It's it's gonna
be exciting because I'm doing some interesting stuff

793
01:03:55.159 --> 01:04:00.920
out there bigfoot wise, and then
also doing a dinosaur a dig. But

794
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:06.039
that's just a personal interest there,
but nice. But yeah, like that's

795
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:10.760
I think Trailing Giants is the best
and really only thing that I would I

796
01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:16.159
would plug out there because everything else
is it branches into it. Awesome,

797
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:20.320
Jonathan, go ahead, man,
yeah, I know if you follow Western

798
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:27.480
Bigfoot Exploration on YouTube, I got
a couple of cool videos coming out before

799
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:30.320
this hike. We're good to do
that hike and uh, you know,

800
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:34.719
I love telling it just as it
is. I had some cinematic stuff to

801
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:40.199
it, but no fluff, just
as it is. And you know,

802
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.280
so it'll be like like going on
along the hike with us as far as

803
01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:47.000
my video, and I just want
to yeah, man, I just I'm

804
01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:51.519
so excited to like do this and
show show this area that hasn't been seen,

805
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:59.880
you know. Awesome. I really
can't wait to show how much whiske

806
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:02.159
I could throw it down on this
hike. So that's gonna be cool.

807
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:08.880
Oh absolutely, we're still wait,
we're still alive. First, you're still

808
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:16.199
alive and recording. Yeah, you
can. You can find me take hieronymous

809
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as spelled right here on YouTube.
Um, I do the series Sasquatcher,

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search for sobbing And if you like
all of our channels, you know we

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all work together, so you'll probably
see us in each other's videos. A

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lot. So no matter if you
abscribe to any one of us, you'll

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get all of us. Yeah,
it's it's pretty cool. It's like all

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these crossovers that happen all the time. Also, you want to make sure

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that you're subscribed to this channel because
they are going to be coming back on

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after the expedition to share what happened, all the stories. If anyone didn't

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make it back, no, I
just can't. Everyone's going to make it.

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Yeah, we guarantee it's all of
us. Well, well, we'll

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be able to be the first ones
to confirm if somebody didn't make it back.

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Right, I'm seriously considering maybe not
dying, but but fading slowly into

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the woods and ever returning. Oh
there you go, perfect, perfect Homer

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Homer Simpson. Homer Simpson, right
back into the bushes, into the forest.

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We don't know what happened to Ronnie
just disappeared. Well there we go.

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So Ben a real fun interview.
Thanks to all you guys for coming

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on, and thanks to all in
the chat. Make sure that you're subscribed

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and we'll see you back in a
few months for the fall up interview.

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But thanks again, guys, Thank
you. Yeah, cool to be on

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nice. You'd like to make a
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like to shout out someone who has
bought us a coffee this last week,

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mister Wayland W. Colburn his messages. I love the show. I used

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to listen to insert the name of
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never have any new stuff. Keep
up the good work, my friend.

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Well, I appreciate that Wayland.
If you'd like to buy me a coffee

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you would like to submit for me
to share on the podcast, please head

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on over to www Dot Bigfoot Society
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share your Bigfoot encounter form a little
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a minute to share as many details
as you can. Please state if the

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encounter is anonymous or what name you
would like associated with the encounter and as

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always thanks for listening.