March 20, 2025

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Join host Jeremiah Byron from the Bigfoot Society as we delve into the world of Bigfoot research with Scot Violette of Squatch America. In this episode, Scot recounts his experiences from investigating sightings in the Blue Mountains of Oregon, where...

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Season 1

Join host Jeremiah Byron from the Bigfoot Society as we delve into the world of Bigfoot research with Scot Violette of Squatch America. In this episode, Scot recounts his experiences from investigating sightings in the Blue Mountains of Oregon, where he encountered Bigfoot firsthand near Marble Creek. Discover how his studies of Native American pictographs have revealed ancient depictions of Bigfoot. Scot also shares his theory about Bigfoot as an older version of humans, and discusses the remarkable vocal abilities these creatures may possess, including infrasound. Hear about his travels across the U.S., from capturing reports in Texas to investigating hotspots near Crater Lake and Wendigo Pass in Oregon. Learn valuable tips for aspiring Bigfoot researchers and how Scot's unique, community-engaging approach, like holding Bigfoot town halls, helps gather vital information. Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, Scot's stories and insights will leave you captivated and curious.

Resources:https://www.youtube.com/@SquatchAmerica

See Scot's Bigfoot finds here - https://squatchamerica.com/unique-bigfoot-finds-from-squatch-america/

Scot's video on his pictograph find - https://www.youtube.com/live/nFLm4qRWVOU

More information on the Tule River Pictographs (with photos) - https://www.isu.edu/media/libraries/rhi/research-papers/Mayak-Datat-Hairy-Man-Pictographs-1.pdf

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slash the Bigfoot Society, and now let's get on with

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the show. At Bigfoot Society, You've got the privilege of

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talking to mister Scott Violet today. You may know him

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from the groups Squatch America. I'm gonna read a few

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things about Scott he was nice enough to provide here.

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He's a Native American cultural anthropologist and the founder of

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Squatch America, which is a national Bigfoot research group. Asert

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Storm Army veteran and travels the US full time in

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RV with his wife Hannah, investigating cryptids sightings and exploring

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Native American rock art related to Bigfoot lore. And of

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course they have their YouTube channel, which we'll probably talk

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about later, and it's a mix of science history and

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hands on research. Welcome to the show, Scott. How's it going, sir,

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It's going great.

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Thanks for having me.

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Absolutely. I do like to start out when I have

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interviews with individuals such as yourself that are really have

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been into it for a while. I always like to

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know what was it that first got you into the

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Sasquatch community.

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Well, it goes back quite a way, is actually I

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was actually born in eastern Oregon, and I grew up

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in the Blue Mountains, which is heavily trafficked buy bigfoot

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and big Foot enthusiasts. I don't know if people are

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familiar with the Freeman film from the early nineties. I

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grew up fifteen miles from where that film was taken,

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so you know, Bigfoot folklore, I guess was pretty common

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in the area I grew up in. I but as

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a teenager I really didn't paid too much attention to it.

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I thought, oh, that's kind of cool, you know deal.

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But later on in life, after I became a Native

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American culture anthropologist and started working with tribes all over

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the nation. I started to notice the common theme. Every

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tribe of the nation has a name for these things,

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and they all have legends and stories and history, and

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particularly my expertise in Native American culture is pictographs. I

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learned how to read them all four different languages of them.

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And when I started finding stories about Bigfoot on rocks

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you know that are hundreds of years old, that started

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to pique my interest a little bit. So after I retired,

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I thought, you know what, I'm gonna look into this

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Bigfoot legend a little bit closer. And as I started

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looking into it, and I set up a Facebook page

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to try to get stories from people locally. As soon

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as I did that, I got hundreds and hundreds of

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stories from people in the area, and I'm like, wow,

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there's a lot more to this than I originally thought.

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And then I started delving in and I got hooked.

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So I've been there ever since.

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That's awesome. I mean, in this whole subject, it does

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not I don't think it takes much to hook you.

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If I mean it gets it just right, you're in

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it for the long haul. So you made a local

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group in the that was local to the Blue Mountain area.

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You were saying, yeah, wow, yes it did. You've got

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hundreds that you must have gotten some really wild stuff

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from that area.

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Oh yeah, and we still do today. We still get

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people telling us stories and finding things. It's amazing.

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So do you think that that area is definitely a

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active hot spot in the Blue Mountains current day?

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Oh? Yeah, absolutely. We find footprints in that area almost

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every year. What a lot of people don't realize about

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the Blue Mountains of eastern Oregon, it has what is it,

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twenty six thousand square miles of forest that nobody lives in.

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That's a plus. But the upper end of the Blue

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Mountain Range runs into Idaho and into Montana and connects

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with the Rocky Mountains, and then the southern part goes

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south through the Ochico Mountains and connects with the Cascades,

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which goes south into northern California and then into the Sierras.

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It's a natural corridor between the two mountain ranges. So

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I think if they do migrate or move from time

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to time, this is the corridor they take. We're basically

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a hallway, you know, to get from the Rockies through

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the cascades, and so there is a lot of activity there,

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you know, and I think as they move is where

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we're finding bigfoot in that area all the time?

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You know that That actually, that just opened my mind

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to a way I have not looked at the map before.

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corridor from the Rocky. That's amazing. How does one become

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a Native Native American cultural anthropologist?

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Uh, lots of college and bills, student loans, let's count

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student loans, you know. Basically what I I originally went

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into college and I had well, first I had a

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career in the military, and then when I got out,

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I used my GI bill to pay for it. So

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that helped a lot. But what got me interested in

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it is I had originally had went into college just

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to go into anthropology in general, and I didn't really

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have a direction in anthropology. It's a huge field and

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there's a lot of directions you can go in it.

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But luckily the college I went to, the professor there

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was really into like the Native American side of things,

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and our college actually had an archaeological day on a

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Native American village, you know, that was two hundred years

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old that we were sifting through, and it was part

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of our project every year to go work on this.

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the area, I thought, wow, that was really cool. I

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really love the depictions. Plus my professor was also into

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Egyptian folklore, so we actually had a whole course we

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had to do on Egyptian picturegraphs, you know, and stories.

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In fact, at the end of the year, one of

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our finals was you have to write. All you have

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to do is write your name on a piece of

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paper and turn it in and if I can read

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your name in Egyptian hieroglyphics, you pass. So we actually

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had to learn, you know, that detail of the Egyptian language.

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So when I started comparing that to the Native American

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language unlocks, I started discovering that, oh, this is easy

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to read, and I thought it was you know, a

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lot of the Native American pictographs are basically directions, you know,

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go up this mountain, there's deer rivers to the south,

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you know, stuff like that. And when I started reading notes,

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I'm like, oh, this is really cool. So I said,

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I want to learn this language. So that's what I

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got into it. So to get your degree to start

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taking classes. I guess I have to say and and

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and then you'll find the direction in anthropology you'll like

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to go.

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Has there been an example of a pictograph that you've

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been able to see over the years that you feel

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is just a really good example of a sasquatch pictograph.

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Yeah, I've got three of them actually that I've found

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over the years, well four technically, but one of them

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is kind of a secret deal and the tribe doesn't

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want it to be revealed, so I don't talk about

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that one too much. But there's the famous one that

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was originally found years ago in California and Porterville. There's

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a life size a foot tall pictograph of a bigfoot

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family and it tells a story. And what's really interesting

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about that one is a lot of people's talked about

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that pictograph for a long time, but when I started

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looking at it, I noticed something I don't think anybody

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else had noticed. And there's two symbols on the bottom

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of the pictograph. There's like a story of a hunting party,

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a hunting animals gear near a spring, and they found

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footprints near the spring, and they had an encounter with

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a bigfoot family. Mother father and baby. But down at

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the bottom of it, I said, the hunting party and

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had symbols of an ancient weapon called an at level.

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And those atlettl symbols are very interesting because the tribe

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in that area have actually stopped using or transition to

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using bows from at levels are like a spear chucking device,

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and they had transition to using bows almost twenty five

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hundred to three thousand years ago. So if this pictrograph

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still had at levels on it, that ates it a

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little bit, you know, so I can say that that's

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possibly you know, twenty five hundred to three thousand years

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old picture of a bigfoot's probably the first one that

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we've ever seen. And then I found two more with

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the exact same symbols on it. And the symbol for

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a bigfoot is a creature with short legs, long body,

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long arms, but the arms are always you see it,

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like out from the shoulders with the arms hanging down

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from the elbows, and that is to symbolize the size

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of this thing and saying it's big. It's like this wide,

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you know, it's huge. And then they never have a

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neck and it's in the head, you know, it's surroundish

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on top. But there's always a kind of a V

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from the head which shows there's no neck and which

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looks like what Bigfoot would look like to people today.

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They have a longer torso than we do, the long arms,

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the huge bodies. So this depiction showing short legs and

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long arms is telling you that it's not the same

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proportion as a human. So I have found three of them.

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There's two an organ that I have found, and two

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in California. The one I can't talk about some California, right,

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the three main one three main ones are two in

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orgon in one California.

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So I want to clarify something. When you say the

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Porterville pictographs, is that the same one as the Tuley

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River pictographs?

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That's it?

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Okay? Perfect?

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Yeah, near the town.

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So you have actually I didn't even think of that possibility.

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So you've actually found pictographs of sasquatch yourself in your exploration.

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Yeah.

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Two, Oh my goodness.

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I have a lot of people walk by pictographs and

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petroglyphs not even noticing that they're there. A lot of times,

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you know, like loss on the rocks will cover them

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up and things. But if you know what to look

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for and I've been doing this for quite a few years.

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I start noticing them almost immediately want to walk into

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places and yeah, there's there's one in the Blue Mountains

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of eastern Oregon, by the way, that it has three

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symbols on it. One of them is the bigfoot symbol.

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One of them's a stickman symbol. And the stickman symbol,

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I might add, is on the same one as the

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Tuley River one that they have stickmen on it too.

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The stick man is a Native American you know, danger symbol. Basically,

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they don't even talk about them. If this is on

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a picture graph, that means danger. So it's got a bigfoot,

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it's got a picture graph of a stick man, and

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it has a picture graph of a circle with a

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line going into the top of the circle and coming

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off the bottom of the circle but not through the circle.

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And what that is is a directional symbol from Native

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American folklore. It's the it means go up the trail,

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go round the valley, because it's right there pointing out

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a valley, go around the valley, don't go through the valley.

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Danger bigfoot basically is what that story says.

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This is absolutely fascinating, you know, I think most people

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are probably familiar with the Tuley River one, but I

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never thought of the possibility that there could be other

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form of these same pictographs found in different areas. You're

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saying the Blue Mountains of Oregon than another area in Oregon,

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some unnamed areas in California, California. Yeah, yeah, is the

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second Oregon? Is that in a similar geographic part of Oregon?

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Or are completely different geographic area of Oregon.

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down in the Ochiko Mountains where it's a little more

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deserted there. You're still still it's still a mountain range,

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but it's more in the kind of the bad lands

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of Oregon. Is the one we found there which has

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it's got a thousand symbols on this one rock and

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it's basically telling this story. Well, what's really cool about

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that one is really caught my eye and I thought,

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this is the coolest part of this whole pictograph is

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it has two rivers that come together, and it has

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two symbols of two different bears on there in different

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locations on the rivers. And then what it does is

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on one side it has a large depiction of a

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bear claw, you know, a footprint of a bear. It

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has that symbol there, and then next to it it

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has a symbol of a big foot track, so it

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literally points out the difference, we know, the difference between

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the bear print and the big footprint. And then on

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the other river it has a depiction of has the

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typical symbol of the bigfoot along river with deer there,

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So they saw bigfoot hunting deer by this river. The

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other river on the other side of the fork is

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where there are a lot of bears. So beware, it's

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really interesting the story that one tells.

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Wow, this is absolutely blowing my mind right now. I mean,

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both of those were in Oregon, were found down in

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the Blue Mountain area.

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Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

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Oh man, are there even more instances of pictographs that

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have been found in Oregon as well that would contain

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U sasquatch pictographs in them?

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Not that I know of. I mean, there's been some

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stuff like there's a bigfoot face that was carved on

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a rock that was found near the Columbia River, but

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that's the only other one that I know of. I mean,

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I'm sure there's probably many out there, but they're probably

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hidden in the woods somewhere and nobody's just run across

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them yet.

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Wow. Man, it feels like, do you have pictures of

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what you found? Are these available on you or your

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website or YouTube channel at all?

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Or yeah, they're on They're on our website and Squatchamerica

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Okay, well, definitely, we'll definitely have that LinkedIn in the

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show notes. Field. I'm probably just extremely late to this party,

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is what it comes down to. But I'm like, this

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is a really big deal. Scott. Scott's like I have

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known about this for a while. Yeah, yeah, this is cool.

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I love this. Did this stuff gets me jazzed up?

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And oh yeah, okay, so let's how about this. Is

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there a catalyst event in your life that happened that

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really kicked things off? It's like, all right, now, I'm

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going to take an RV around the US with my

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wife and really, you know, is there something that happened

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to you that really got you on board with all this?

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Absolutely there is. I had I mentioned I started that

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Facebook page and started getting stories from people, and up

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until that point, I was probably after studying, you know,

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footprint casts, you know, some of the famous ones from

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the past, and some footprints that I had found after

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studying those and noticing the morphology in it, because you know,

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as you know, when you go through anthropology school, you know,

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you have to literally take a human body skeleton that's

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in a box and put it together and name every

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bone in it. So you get to learn, you know,

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how humans are made and how the history of human

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development and all that things. So looking into all this stuff,

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I was like, probably ninety five percent sure these things existed,

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you know. I always had a little bit of doubt

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in the back of my head until June of twenty eighteen.

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What had happened was we got five reports from five

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people that didn't know each other in the same area

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in the same week, and I'm like, that's where I

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need to be, you know. So I was going out there.

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I had been out there for two days in a row,

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and I was going out for the third day and

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funnything happened on the way to big footing. Now there

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was my wife's one of her friends, her dad was

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having a birthday, and his birthday wished was a big

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footing because he'd never done it before. So they contacted

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me and said, hey, can you take this guy out

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big footing with you tonight? And then I'm like, it's

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his birthday, and I'm sure, no problem. I'd never met

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the guy before the day, you know, that day, So

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he hopped in the truck with me. We drove up

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in the mountains and we went hiking down this trail

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that I had checked out, you know, the prior two days,

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because that's where all these reports were coming from. And

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hiking along the trail, I smelt the worst smell I've

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ever smelt in my life. And I'm like, I've heard

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this described, but I've never experienced myself, you know, a

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wet dog, garbage and onions and skunk all together. So

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you know, it's kind of a really bad, pungent smell.

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So we stopped and I'm like, oh my gosh, you know,

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where's that coming from? And we're looking around in circles

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in the woods trying to figure out where this is

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coming from. So I probably did the dumbest thing on

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the planet is because I was kind of new to

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it back in the day, and so I just went, ah,

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I growled off in the woods, and it mimicked me exactly.

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And that's when I saw this little head two hundred

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feet down the hill from me, and this little tiny

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opening in the tree limbs swaying side by side, and

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I'm like, oh my gosh, that's a big thing. And

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I got my camera up. I got one blurry picture

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of it, because you know, that's the way it works.

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And then we heard a whistle off to our left

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and it ducked into the woods and vanished. So I

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spent three days there. We went down to where it

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was at and I found footprints where it was standing,

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but I found nine inch footprints and sixteen inch footprints.

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And then so I did all my archaeological stuff, you know.

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I set my camera up on a tripod where I

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was holding it almost exactly, you know, tried to get

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the exact spot shot a laser down through the trees,

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figured out where it was standing from the footprints and

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where the laser hit. The nine inch footprints was six

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foot tall, but the sixteen inch footprints behind it. I

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thought there was another one that I didn't see until

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I went back and we got until later on, even

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a couple of years later, I got somebody who had

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the technology to really enhance the photo I had, and

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there was another face behind it, the adult. I can't

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tell you how tall that was because it was bent

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over looking up at us. So that's when I had

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a Native American. I told this story to a Native

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American elder and he said, that's when Bigfoot stole your soul. Like, yeah,

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that's probably the case. So that's that was the pivotal

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moment when we decided to sell our house by an RV.

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Hit the road. And you know, up until then, I

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had this little group called Blue Mountain Bigfoot Research, and

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we turned it into Squatch America and hit the road

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nationally and started following up on these stories ever since.

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Wow, that that is fascinating. What do you think the

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phrase Bigfoot stole your soul means? How do you take that?

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Well, there's there's two different ways to take it, and

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Native American culture is one spiritually, like Bigfoot literally took

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my soul that day, and that's why I'm looking for

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him to get it back. That's that's kind of an

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you know, I like to lean towards that one. I

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need my sold back, Bigfoot, I got to find you again.

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But another one is you've just become obsessed. With this

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to the point where you're going to give up everything

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and do it. So, yeah, that's that's probably one of

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the or the two meetings that I can probably take

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from that.

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It's extremely interesting. You. Is it possible to give a

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roundabout area and this is something we talked about beforehand,

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but the area where this sighting took place or is

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it an area where you kind of give a nebulous

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region or.

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Oh no, I can tell you where it's at. It's

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if you go to the Blue Mountains. There's a little

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town in eastern Origon called Baker City, Oregon. And behind

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Baker City, Oregon, there's a road that goes out of town.

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It's called Pocahontas Road, and it goes up to this

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place called Marble Creek. And this is that's where I

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had my sighting. Now that's Marble Creek. Road goes over

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top of the Blue Mountains, over the mountain on to

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the other side of the hill where this little town

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called Sumter is. Now. This area here is it's called

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the Alps of Oregon. The highest peak is ten thousand feet.

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It's not an easy drive. You gotta have a four

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whele drive to get up over this Mountain, so it's

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about halfway up on the Baker City side of the mountain.

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It's where I had my sighting. But it was also

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in a watershed area where you're not supposed to be,

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same as the Freeman film back in the nineties was

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in the watershed area where people weren't supposed to be.

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I was walking the edge of it. I was legal,

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so I wasn't in the watershed area, but so this area,

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and it was about five thousand feet. So one of

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the interesting things I found over the years when we're

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getting reports a big foot, especially in the Blue Mountains

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and in the Cascades also, it's most of the sightings

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are over five thousand feet. That must be a line

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they draw and like, you know, they live above that,

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probably because not many people go above that. So yeah,

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so that's where it's at. It's in eastern Oregon, in

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the Alps of Oregon, outside of Baker City.

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Remembering what you saw that day, would you describe it

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as something that was more ape like in facial features

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or maybe more human like, or or something completely different.

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I totally would lean toward more human. It looked more

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like a person than it did an ape. You know,

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having you know my background, I can, I can, I can.

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Let's go into what I think these are.

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Sure, absolutely, this is my this is.

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My working theory. Granted is a theory, but from what

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I saw, you know, if I had to picture what

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the skull looked like underneath the skin, you know, because

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I've seen lots of humanoid creature's skulls over the years,

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I would lean toward this is human. And I'll tell

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you why say this is human. It's just an older

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version of us that hasn't been extinct. And this is why.

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And there's there's not this missing link that everybody says

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they're looking for. If we go back into human history,

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it wasn't you know, one thing turning into the other,

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turning into the other turning the other. That's not how

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it worked, and we know that through DNA even today.

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You know, that really kind of emphasized this theory that

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say humans started somewhere, there's always been a human and no,

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we did not evolve from apes. In fact, there's a

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theory today that maybe apes evolved from us, not the

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other way around. But there was always a human back

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in history somewhere that started and they had adapt So

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if you think about like a group of humans in Africa,

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you know, three million years ago. As their population grew,

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the area they lived in couldn't sustain them. So this

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group moved over here, and then they moved again, and

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then they moved again over you know, millions of years.

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Well by the time they got into Europe, their bodies

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have changed because they're in a different type of forest,

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you know, different climate. They had to adapt, so their

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bodies changed over thousands of years. But they're the same

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people that started in Africa if you look at it

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that way, they just look different. So at any given

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time in human history, there's been you know, five to

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six types of humans that lived together at the same time.

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You know, we're Homo sapiens, but did you know we

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overlapped Homo sapiens with homofloor in sciences, which is actually

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newer than us, Homo higher Heidelbergensis, Homo erectus home in

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the Dali, and Homo neandital there's six that overlapped with

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us that were still alive while we were alive. And

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here's a big chocker. Did you know that Neanderthals are

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still alive.

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That I did? I know? They've they've been able to

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find individual Well, this is what I've heard, individuals with

454
00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:33.519
pieces of Neanderthal DNA. I think that's real.

455
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:36.759
Yeah, yeah, that is absolutely real.

456
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:38.200
Okay, that is absolutely real.

457
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:42.480
So Neanderthals came from France, and they came from the

458
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:47.839
Acadian region of France, so they didn't go extinct. The

459
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:51.319
French people bred them out. They're actually you know, we're

460
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:55.000
talking back in the Palio times, but they are us.

461
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.200
You know, they were in US. So if you're French

462
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.680
and you're from the Acadian region of France, which i am,

463
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:08.039
actually five percent of my DNA is naotal And if

464
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.920
you want to know Acadians when they migrated to the

465
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:17.200
United States in the sixteen hundreds, and they they're the

466
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:22.319
French people speaking people in Maine, in Nova Scotia and Canada,

467
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:27.160
you know, and then some of them migrated around the

468
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.279
Horn in Landon in Louisiana and the word Akkadian got

469
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.319
changed to Cajun. So if you wonder why Cadans are

470
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:38.640
a little off is because they're part Caveman, you know.

471
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.279
So you know, I'm Acadian French, my dad is full blooded.

472
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:47.440
I'm half Acadian French Cajun. So we bred them out,

473
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:50.119
so there's still life. So why is today any different

474
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:53.480
than it has been for the last you know, three

475
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.480
or four hundred thousand years. We've always lived together with

476
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:01.720
another type of human, another ad adaptation of us, So

477
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:04.440
why is today any different? I believe that these things

478
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:09.839
are us. They are a human, an older version or

479
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.240
maybe even a newer version. It could be that too,

480
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.200
but I would I would lean towards an older version

481
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.400
of us that hasn't had to change or adapt because

482
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.599
they're find the way they are and have been that

483
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.359
way for thousands of years.

484
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:27.039
Okay, so this is very interesting. I'm going to go

485
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:31.759
down this road with you. So it's it's fascinating. So

486
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:37.759
in that case, then, so let's say you get these

487
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:45.519
reports of things like infrasound and really interesting things. Is

488
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:49.440
that saying then that maybe we forgot how to do

489
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:53.960
these things or we.

490
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:57.680
Lost it over the years, right? Yeah, So here's something

491
00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:59.799
very interesting. We get the end of the infer sound

492
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:03.599
and and the whistles and stuff. I have recorded whistles,

493
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:08.279
I've got recorded whoops that I have recorded. And one

494
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:10.240
of the really cool things I did is I took

495
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:15.599
a little bit different path. My wife has a her

496
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:19.200
degrees in music, and she was a choir teacher and

497
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:24.480
a vocalist and a voice coach, and her college professor,

498
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:28.680
you know, same but with a doctorate, you know, is

499
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:32.039
into choir and singing and stuff. And I played these

500
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:37.359
whipping sounds for him and he about fell out of

501
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:37.759
the seat.

502
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:41.559
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

503
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.000
Because oh my gosh, I hear something that you probably

504
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.720
we don't because you don't do this every day. He goes,

505
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.480
these sounds are in five octaves and humans can only

506
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:09.759
do three. I'm like, okay, So we threw it in

507
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:11.960
a spectrograph, took a look at it. Yes, they are

508
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.400
in five octaves. What that means is they have one

509
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.599
more fold in their vocal cords than we do. We

510
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:22.440
have two, they have three, and so they have a

511
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.880
higher and lower range of sounds they can make. Okay,

512
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:29.640
And I was talking to the college So when I

513
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:31.960
was talking to the college professor about this, he goes,

514
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:35.200
you know, humans, some people are still born with those

515
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:38.799
but typically we lost them over the years when we

516
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.640
started becoming civilized and didn't need to make those sounds anymore.

517
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.960
So humans did at one time have the three vocal folds,

518
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.480
so we have lost them because we don't need them anymore,

519
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.759
like we don't need our appendix anymore, you know, over

520
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:59.079
the years when when we started to become civilized and

521
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:03.799
started doing agriculture and not you know, hunting and gathering anymore.

522
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:10.119
I wonder if this almost explains how sometimes you have

523
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:13.359
witnesses that say it sounded like it was this and

524
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.000
this at the same time.

525
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:16.960
Exactly.

526
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:27.400
Oh man, this is blowing my mind. This is awesome, dude. Wow. Wow,

527
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:33.839
I can't remember where, but I have heard someone else

528
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:40.160
mentioned the double fold. You said double fold in the

529
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:42.640
vocal cords, right.

530
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.039
Yeah, well they have three, they have threefold.

531
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.440
Three, so trifold. Wow, that's wild man. I'm gonna be

532
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:50.559
thinking about that for a while.

533
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.079
So that just add to that a little bit. That's

534
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:57.319
why I don't go in the woods and whoop at night, ah,

535
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.400
because they know we're they know we're human. We can't

536
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:03.079
reach the octaves they do. They're like, oh that's a person.

537
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.680
Oh that's even crazier, dude. So yeah, like what so

538
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.720
using that theory when we do whoops, we are it's

539
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:16.680
even more of a giveaway than you know, using like

540
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:22.319
ir it's probably very similar like, yeah, we're here, you know,

541
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:26.559
Oh that's crazy. Unless you're playing an actual recording of

542
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:28.240
a bigfoot, then you can kind.

543
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.200
Of get away with it. That's it. Yep.

544
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:39.039
So how does how do the reports of infrasound play

545
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:40.759
into this this theory?

546
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:46.319
Then? Well, I you know, I think they do have

547
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.519
infrasound because they have the ability to do it. I mean,

548
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:53.839
they're not the only creatures on the planet that does that. Elephants, lions, tigers,

549
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:58.640
there's a whole plethora of animals that have this ability there.

550
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.680
They use it as an allow us to put it

551
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:07.240
as a weapon, you know, because the reason tigers can

552
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.800
do it or use it is that if you can

553
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.440
growl so low that what you're growling at can't hear it,

554
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:18.719
but they feel it, then they can. It actually shakes

555
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:22.440
them to the core. You can put an animal into

556
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:27.840
fight or flight and or shock. So if you put

557
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.360
something into a shock, it's not it's going to be

558
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:34.400
stunned for a moment. That gives me time to grab it.

559
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.760
So you know, that's why tigers do it. It'll put

560
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:40.800
their prey in kind of a shocked momb where it

561
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.960
just stands there and doesn't know what to do, and

562
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.400
that gives the tiger more time and ability to jump

563
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:50.440
on it. So you know it may be a leftover,

564
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.239
you know, just hunting tactic that they use.

565
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:57.840
Have you ever experienced that yourself? Me?

566
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:02.119
Personally, no, not that I can recall. Well, I don't know,

567
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:07.519
if you know, I've felt kind of eerie times in

568
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.239
the woods that could possibly be it. But you know

569
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:15.760
I can't, you know, Clete that because I I just

570
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:18.840
recently got a recorded that it records infrasound, so we

571
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.679
can see if I start feeling weird in the woods,

572
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.320
you know, I can record it and see it. Yeah,

573
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:27.039
is there an infrasound happening now? But but personally no,

574
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.840
I can't say I have had an instance that did that. Now.

575
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.000
I've had screams at night that are so loud and

576
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.480
terrifying that it made the kayak shut up, you know,

577
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:41.519
so that's a different thing. But no, I haven't had

578
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:43.880
the infrasound that I can recall.

579
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.000
What's that in the Blue Mountains that you experienced that?

580
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:49.280
Absolutely?

581
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:55.239
Okay, Wow, I've experienced that out in Lane County near Oakridge,

582
00:35:55.840 --> 00:36:00.400
where it was like a scream slash roar thing really

583
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:05.760
freaked me out. Dude. Yeah, yeah, that's is weird. I'd

584
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.679
love to hear it again though, but it was. It

585
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.079
was freaky. As I'll get out. It's like three o'clock

586
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:16.760
in the afternoon. Yeah, that area is weird. So walk

587
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:20.679
me through. Walk me through. When you are driving around

588
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:26.119
the US and your RV with your wife for Squatch America,

589
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.320
is what is kind of your your mission when you're

590
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:33.760
I'm assuming you're going probably to different towns, maybe you

591
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:36.199
have you know, you're going to different hotspots, So I

592
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:37.679
guess I really don't know.

593
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.239
But yeah, we tend to go to where there's like

594
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:43.239
different hotspots across the United States. But the thing about

595
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:47.039
what we do is a little bit different. My truck

596
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.280
has our logo all over sight of it and it

597
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:54.559
says Bigfoot Research Team, and it's really audacious and stands out.

598
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:57.840
And there's a reason I do that is because we

599
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.000
can't stop at a gas station without getting a bit

600
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.400
foot report from somebody is at the gas station gassing up,

601
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:05.719
you know, or go to the grocery store. We'll come

602
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:07.719
out of the grocery store, there'll be two people standing

603
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.000
next to our truck ready to tell us their Bigfoot stories,

604
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:14.079
you know. So that's what we use when we go

605
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:20.199
into different areas. We belong to this like campground system

606
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.559
thing that we bought into. It's called A Thousand Trails,

607
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.639
and they have two hundred campgrounds across the United States.

608
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:28.320
So we can stay three weeks at a time at

609
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:29.920
each one of these, and that's what we do. We

610
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:35.719
go park the trailer, spend the first week getting bigfoot

611
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.719
reports from people around the area, and then we spend

612
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:43.000
the next couple of weeks. Our truck also has a

613
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.039
tent on the top, you know, it's an overlander. So

614
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.239
we'll leave the camp we'll leave the trailer and the campground,

615
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.239
and then we'll just go off into the woods and

616
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.119
spend two or three days at a time following up

617
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:55.519
on the reports we get in the area.

618
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:03.480
That's awesome, but what is there easiest. Let's say you're

619
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:05.920
just driving to an area and you just all of

620
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.079
a sudden, you find yourself in the middle of this

621
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:11.519
like bigfoot mystery. There's tons of reports and you're like, wow,

622
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:15.679
things are just clicking. Have you ever experienced anything like

623
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:16.800
that in a certain area?

624
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:22.760
Oh? Yeah, yeah, we've run across in a couple different times.

625
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:26.760
Crazy enough, it's kind of where we're kind of out

626
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:31.079
right now. We tend to follow up on Bigfoot reports

627
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:37.280
in Texas in the winter time because you know, it's

628
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:41.480
nice here. It's like seventy two today, so you know,

629
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:44.199
growing up in eastern Oregon, you know, I'm kind of

630
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.920
done with winter. But so we had that happened to

631
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.280
us down here. We stopped at this little area outside

632
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:55.800
of a place called Whitney, Texas, and I wouldn't I

633
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.119
didn't think that would be. There was some Bigfoot reports

634
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.800
like on the Bigfoot Map Project and the BFROO site

635
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.960
in that area. But when we got there, oh my gosh,

636
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.159
as soon as the community knew we were there, I meant,

637
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.400
the guy from the newspaper called us asked us to

638
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.320
come down to a story they posted in a newspaper.

639
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:19.920
We got tons of report from this one area, and

640
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:24.800
so they we went to this campground there there's believe

641
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:26.840
or not, it's kind of weird. Texas doesn't have a

642
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:31.079
lot of you know, national forces. Everything here is like

643
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.519
almost private. But we did happen to find a guy

644
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:36.480
who said, yeah, come camp on my land. I've got

645
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:40.400
to see Bigfoot. All the time, and so I went

646
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.159
and camped on this guy's ranch with you know, thousands

647
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:47.360
of acres and lo and behold we found footprints down

648
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.760
by the creek and all. It's kind of kind of weird.

649
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.280
So that was one that really stood out. And another

650
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.639
one is kind of close if you're in the Cascades there.

651
00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:01.320
There's another time we went camping near Crater Lake and

652
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:06.039
we had fire crews stop when they saw the truck.

653
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.800
You know, stop, Hey, we heard this last night. You know.

654
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:12.400
We had another guy saying, oh yeah, I hear them

655
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:16.760
every night. You know, go up this road, which led

656
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.639
us into something we've been actively doing for four years now.

657
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.440
I try to spend part of my summer up there.

658
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.719
Is that we found a spot. This was I'm not

659
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.079
going to give you quite details, but if you know

660
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.719
where Diamond Lake is, it's in that area. There's a road.

661
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:37.800
I'll even give you the road. It's called Oh my gosh,

662
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:44.559
I just went out of my head. Oh my gosh. Anyway,

663
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.960
maybe I'm not supposed to tell you that, but there

664
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:52.920
you Yeah, when to go past, that's what it's called.

665
00:40:53.199 --> 00:41:00.159
When pass, Yeah I believe it or not. Yeah, So

666
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:05.760
in this area, four years ago, after everybody's talking about this.

667
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.079
We found this little pond that I'm not going to

668
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:09.559
tell where this is a but we hiked up to

669
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.119
this little pond and the only way into is hiking,

670
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:16.840
and we found three sets of footprints. We found thirteen

671
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:22.280
inch prints, nine inch prints and six inch prints. And

672
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.360
it's something I'm really going to when I do when

673
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:28.360
I speak at a lot of big foot vessels, and

674
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.760
it's one of the things we talked about big vessils.

675
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:35.199
But so that was four years ago and we go

676
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:38.239
back to the same area every year. We found tree structures.

677
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:41.599
We've had a long distance sighting of one up on

678
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.519
top of the mountain. We since then, I have found

679
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:48.760
twenty one inch print. So we've got mom, dad and

680
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:53.639
two kids. And we found our little guy again last year.

681
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:56.800
We found his footprints near a different pond up there.

682
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.599
And he's went from his six inch print two ten

683
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:05.639
inch prints in four years. So so and we've been

684
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.440
doing some also, some off the cuff things. We've been

685
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:12.639
putting out puzzles in the woods for them. You know,

686
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.519
we will stack rocks like in a pyramid, or we'll

687
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.840
actually use those you know, those kids toys with the

688
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.519
little round doughnutlook things and you stack them up on

689
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:25.760
the stick and they form a pyramid. We put those

690
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:28.239
in the woods. That's actually a cognitive test, by the way.

691
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.559
So we've been putting those out in the woods and

692
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:35.199
sacking the rocks up, and they have been playing with them.

693
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.360
They've been re arranging them in a way that you know,

694
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.840
it's it's intelligentally done. It's not just you know, you're

695
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:46.679
knocking it over whatever. So after we did that for

696
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.400
a couple of years and we went back into that area,

697
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:53.559
we started finding rocks put on logs for us and

698
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:59.800
arranged five hundred pound rocks that we couldn't rearrange. So

699
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:05.360
we're teaching them. I don't know what's going on, you know,

700
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.519
with that, but that's that's an area that we've been.

701
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:11.320
We've been it's been a hot spot for us for

702
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:14.239
four years now and that's kind of one of our

703
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:15.639
major research.

704
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:20.039
Areas scott Oddly enough, so this show gets some weird

705
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:26.760
electrical stuff and sometimes the voice modulation it almost sounds

706
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:30.719
like and right when you start talking about like moving

707
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:35.719
huge rocks and stuff, it's like every time I'm like,

708
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:37.280
I don't even I don't know if this is the

709
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:42.519
government or if it's Bigfoot messing with my stuff. Oh,

710
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.000
it's wild, but that's not surprising at all. I mean

711
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.719
I take a lot of you know, reports from north

712
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:50.639
to fifty eight in that area, kind of like going

713
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:54.920
west over to Oakridge and Dexter, and I mean that

714
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:56.599
whole area is just bonkers.

715
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:00.440
The word wind to go in Native American terms, is

716
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:03.159
is a bad thing. You know, it's not a good thing, right,

717
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.679
That's pretty interesting. It's kind of interesting that like it.

718
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.159
You know, I've interviewed like seventy five tribes and I

719
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:13.599
got the names for these things, and it's kind of

720
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:15.840
weird that half the tribes is almost a fifty to

721
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.119
fifty split. Half the tribes call them like benevolent brother, Harryman,

722
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.199
you know, the other people stuff like that, but the

723
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:27.199
other half call them like windigoes or monsters, killers, cannibals.

724
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:33.920
So I think there's like there's good Bigfoot and there's

725
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:36.679
bad Bigfoot. You know, like they're good people and there's

726
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:37.280
bad people.

727
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:42.440
You know, have you found tribes where they call them

728
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:44.559
both or it seems to be a one or the

729
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:45.559
other type thing.

730
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:49.000
It seems to be a one or the other type thing.

731
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.679
And it's it's primarily the southern tribes are the ones

732
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:58.199
that have the bad words for them, So you know

733
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:04.480
the one you know, like in New Mexico and in Texas,

734
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:09.000
here in Louisiana and down in Florida, their names for

735
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.559
them tend to be I'm wonder with the Southern big

736
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:12.719
Foot are just meaner.

737
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.079
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

738
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:32.599
I don't know.

739
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:38.840
I mean, going by the reports that I hear, I

740
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:42.400
don't know. I kind of feel like it might be

741
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.400
a little bit more aggressive down there, But that's a

742
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:50.000
that's a discussion in itself. Do you ever go out

743
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:56.199
in the Midwest, like Iowa, Nebraska that that part of

744
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:57.280
the country at all.

745
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:03.960
Yeah, Actually, there's uh Almah tried in Nebraska. Uh as

746
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:12.000
they have they have a really interesting relationship with the

747
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:16.480
Bigfoot there and in fact, they look look to Bigfoot

748
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:22.119
in that area as almost a shaman. And it's kind

749
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.920
of interesting kind of the the tribal elders and like

750
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:30.039
the medicine woman tells stories that they will take whatever

751
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:35.679
plants that are ripening in whatever season, they'll take those

752
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:37.719
and they'll go into the woods and they'll lay them

753
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.440
out on a rock and then they'll they'll wait a

754
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:42.880
few days, they'll go back and then something will have

755
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:45.639
removed some of them from the rock and left some

756
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:48.119
of them there, and that's the stuff that works good

757
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:51.519
for the medicines they need during that season.

758
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.360
Well, that's that's really interesting. And that's north of Omaha,

759
00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:59.800
like where it's referred to as Satanga. Is that the same?

760
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.960
Yeah? Yep, absolutely, Okay, that's it.

761
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:07.280
Gotcha, yep, yep, yep. Have you ever gotten anything directly

762
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:08.079
from Iowa?

763
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:10.599
I haven't. Okay, we haven't spent a lot of time

764
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:11.519
there either, so.

765
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:14.119
We we don't have a lot going on. We have

766
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:16.280
a we have a little bit of a weird stuff,

767
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.199
but not a lot. So that's I can understand why

768
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.880
you wouldn't. I have seen in the past where you

769
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.920
guys will do like bigfoot town halls. Is that right?

770
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.639
Yes, we do and do that as often as we can,

771
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:32.920
where we get into an area and we can look

772
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:34.800
up with somebody, you know, to set up a place

773
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:36.760
and time and all that stuff. But yeah, we do

774
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.559
do that quite often. And that's where we're getting a

775
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:42.599
lot of insight and reports from people in the areas

776
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:43.400
that we're going to be in.

777
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:48.360
Can you take a few minutes to talk about what

778
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:51.119
it takes to set up a big Foot town hall

779
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:54.519
or any like you know, advice that you have towards that.

780
00:47:56.760 --> 00:48:00.000
Actually, it's a lot easier than I had originally thought

781
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.480
it would be. They said, we need you need a

782
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:05.239
little time to advertise it, and we try to set

783
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:06.840
up you know, like I said, we can spend three

784
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:10.559
weeks and places. So what we try to do is,

785
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:13.960
you know, kind of get it set up immediately when

786
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:16.599
we get somewhere, or if we can set it up,

787
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.239
you know, a month or two ahead to get an idea.

788
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:24.599
But basically we just find places like that have meeting rooms.

789
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:28.599
A lot of times there are bars, pizza parlors, place

790
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:31.199
like that that have like these rooms in the back

791
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:34.880
for meetings and things, and we'll you know, rent the

792
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:38.840
space or whatever to do that, and then we'll try

793
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:41.400
to advertise it in the local newspapers, on the local

794
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:44.719
you know, Facebook pages and things like that, let people

795
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.480
know that we're going to be there, and then if

796
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:49.920
we can, we'll stick up a banner on the building

797
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.400
if they let us, you know, saying when it's going

798
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:58.679
to happen, and we've had crazy results. I mean, you know,

799
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:00.400
it's a hit and miss I can say that, but

800
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:03.760
we've had like one time we were we set up

801
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:08.079
one in a little town called Cave Junction, organ and

802
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:11.559
we're expecting, you know, maybe sixty seventy people to show up.

803
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:15.119
We had two hundred and eighty show up. It was crazy.

804
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.800
And then yeah, the pizza, butther ran out of pizza

805
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:23.360
that night. They were really thinking us that it's really

806
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.480
you know, not a lot to it. And then but

807
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:27.239
the most important thing and the hard thing to do

808
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:31.159
is once you have the meetings is to get people

809
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:33.599
to document stuff. You know, we'll have a map of

810
00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:36.400
the area. Well, we'll throw up on a table up front,

811
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:38.800
and when people tell us their stories, we ask them

812
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:40.519
if they can come up and market on the map,

813
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:43.719
which really helps us a lot. And then recording it.

814
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:48.599
We set up a video recorder and some audio recorders

815
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:51.480
so we can get some good audio because I have

816
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:56.079
when I first started doing these, I totally spaced that

817
00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:59.400
part and I thought, well, they'll come in, they'll fill

818
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:02.239
out the sheet for me. Yeah they won't, you know,

819
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:05.039
but if I can get them on video, I can

820
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:07.079
remember the stories that way.

821
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:13.519
Okay, so that I think is a really I think that, yeah,

822
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:18.440
that's a very good piece of advice there, because I

823
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:22.880
found that with what I mean when I did a

824
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:26.320
festival in Oakridge in July. I mean, it was it

825
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:30.079
was overwhelming. I talked to people about their encounters for

826
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:36.039
probably twenty four hours in three days. It was nuts.

827
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.400
I loved it. But it's like, you know, you're writing

828
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:41.039
stuff down on a map. But then, I mean, if

829
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:44.800
I had been able to have people record their story,

830
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:48.400
I mean, yeah, that would have been very very effective.

831
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:52.880
Are these just for your personal archives? I would imagine then.

832
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:57.199
Yeah. We we have a database that we put stuff

833
00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:00.599
in that helps us to track these things. One of

834
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:03.039
the interesting things about the information we get from it,

835
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:05.760
and one of the things I use it for is

836
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:09.079
if you got I always try to get dates in

837
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:14.840
at least months. That's the important thing because after doing this,

838
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:18.159
I know we're on our fifth or sixth year doing

839
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:22.239
this full time. Is I put a lot of pins

840
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.840
and maps, you know, but if you've got the dates

841
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:27.840
on them, I've noticed that like, hey, this area is

842
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:32.400
hot in March every three years. You know, this area

843
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:36.159
is hot hot in June every other year. You know,

844
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.599
and that kind of gives me something to go on, Like,

845
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:41.440
if we're going to go researching area, I want to

846
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:43.280
make sure it's when they're there.

847
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:48.800
That's interesting. You could almost figure out like migration times

848
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:49.360
and stuff.

849
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:56.159
Yep. Wow, Yeah, I'm still not sure about the migration thing.

850
00:51:56.400 --> 00:52:00.440
I think they they stay within almost like a two

851
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.440
hundred mile area. I think they basically rotate crops. They're

852
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:06.480
in like this part of it for one year, and

853
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:08.360
then next year they'll be over here, and then next

854
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.559
year they'll be over there, and then they'll come back

855
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:12.039
to this, you know, three years later.

856
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.920
Do you have any criteria that needs to be met

857
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:22.400
in order for you to focus on a certain area

858
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:27.000
spend three weeks there and try to set up a

859
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:29.800
town hall.

860
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.519
Well, yeah, one of them is kind of mostly if

861
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:34.480
it's going to be in an area that there is

862
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:38.119
like past activity. You know, I can look look on

863
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:40.320
the BFR site. You know. I'm not going to go

864
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:43.840
to counties that never had a Bigfoot report ever, you know,

865
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:48.079
like down in the deserts, you know, and in Arizona

866
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:51.480
there's not a lot of activity there. So that's places

867
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.559
we don't go. But I like to go to you know,

868
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:58.320
doctor Jeff Meldrum has a theory that there's three big

869
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:03.199
foot in any twenty square mile of a black bear habitat,

870
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.760
So I kind of lean on that a little bit.

871
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:12.239
So any areas that have black beerries are generally bigfoot areas,

872
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:15.880
you know, same habitat. So we tend to try to

873
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:19.159
lean towards staying in areas that there are black bears.

874
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.880
That makes a ton of sense. Out of the two

875
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.840
hundred and so people that showed up at Cave Junction,

876
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:33.159
how many or what's the percentage would you say of

877
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:36.320
people there actually had an encounter to report?

878
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:40.719
Oh gosh, I would say at least half of them,

879
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.880
and probably I would say I would I would delete

880
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.239
about twenty percent of those because some of them are

881
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:50.639
like barely outlandish, you know, you know, I look for

882
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:54.119
things that have commonality and bigfoot reports, like the smell,

883
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:57.320
the hair, the way the face looked.

884
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.199
Are there things though, that you'll hear in a witness

885
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:03.000
report that'll make you be like, I like what I'm

886
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:03.719
hearing right now?

887
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.320
Yeah? Absolutely, And you know, like like I said before,

888
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:11.599
some of the commonalities, but the other ones it's kind

889
00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:14.320
of really weird. Is watch their face, in their arms,

890
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:17.440
if they're if they start getting goosebumps and their hair

891
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:19.320
stands up a little bit and they start a little

892
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.880
shaking in their voice, they had seen something that changes

893
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:26.639
their life and it still affects them today. So those

894
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:30.039
ones that I really take a close attention to.

895
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.559
How this is something that I'm trying to work through

896
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.199
myself when I talk to people face to face, Like

897
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:41.360
you're talking about how do you how do you handle

898
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:45.239
Sometimes when you talk to a witness, they can get

899
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:52.639
back into that emotional state and it's almost like you don't.

900
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:55.800
It can really affect them, and it's like how long

901
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:59.880
do I want this person to be back in that state?

902
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:03.559
I mean, I've experienced a few and I was really

903
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:07.079
taken back by like this is way different than talking

904
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:09.880
to someone over her phone.

905
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:12.800
Yeah, that's that's an interesting question. And I'm not really

906
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:21.760
good at it. But luckily my wife is a license psychologist.

907
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:25.039
So well there you go, man, Yeah.

908
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:32.079
So so, and she is really good at forensic interviewing

909
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:34.800
and things like that. So when they started getting really shaky,

910
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.639
and she kind of takes over for me, and she

911
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.800
kind of knows the limits. You know, I don't want

912
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:45.199
to put somebody through you know, PTSD, you know from

913
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:48.159
doing this, but you know, but it helps to reassure

914
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:50.639
them that you're here for them and that they're safe

915
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:52.000
now and stuff like that.

916
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:58.159
You know, Scott, it's been such a fascinating conversation with you.

917
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:01.599
I do have one another question for you here at

918
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:05.679
the end. Okay, So let's say there's an individual and

919
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:07.960
they're like, man, I really want to get out there

920
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:13.760
and have a Bigfoot experience. Do you have things that

921
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:18.559
you recommend people maybe to lean towards if they're going

922
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:22.239
to go out and try to have and experience themselves, or.

923
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:28.360
Yeah, one, do your research. One of the biggest best

924
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:32.159
tools that came out recently is the Bigfoot Mapping Project.

925
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:36.119
It's an app you can download, you know, look on

926
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:39.880
that and find the area that you want to go

927
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.800
to has sightings and secondly, look at the months. I

928
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:48.239
don't care if it happened twenty years ago or last month,

929
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look at the months and that's where you want to go.

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And one of the other things that has worked extremely

931
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well for us is to go camping. I don't go

932
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knock on trees, I know, go loooking in the woods

933
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:06.960
at night. We just go camping and make a spectacle

934
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.880
of yourself. You're not going to hunt down a bigfoot.

935
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:11.719
You're not going to chase it down in the woods.

936
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Camo don't work. But if you get them curious enough

937
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:19.920
to come see you, if if they're curious they want

938
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to check out the funny looking human people. So that's

939
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one of the things I do. I just go camping.

940
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:32.360
H That's that's great advice. I just remembered one that

941
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I forgot. I apologize. This is this is for the

942
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last one. How do you record infrasound?

943
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:40.320
There's actually recorders that will record it.

944
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:40.920
Really.

945
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:43.559
In fact, there's even there's even an app you can

946
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:47.960
get for your phone and infrasound recorder. The microphones will

947
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:50.920
pick it up. Your ears won't, but it'll show you

948
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:53.199
on a spectrograph. You know, you can even download that.

949
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:55.760
It works fine. It will show you on a spectrograph

950
00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:58.320
the infrasound that you that you're not hearing.

951
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:01.960
So okay, So it's easy is that just to start

952
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:06.440
googling on looking on Amazon infrasound recorder, look at that

953
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:09.639
apps and you'll they're out there. Okay, that's cool, that's cool.

954
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:12.960
All right, Well, Scott Thank you so much for taking

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some time out of your day to share what you've

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experienced over the years, and you know, maybe listeners keeping

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keeping eye out for their truck. You never know when

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you'll see them. But thank you so much for coming

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on the show. Do you mind taking a few minutes

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00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.079
reminding listeners how they can keep up to date best

961
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with what you're doing.

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Okay, one of the best things is follow us on

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helps us out too with the views. So that's one

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of the ways we support this. So if you go

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and check out Squatch America on YouTube. We also have

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a Squatch America Facebook page and we're also on x

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So if you want to get a hold of us,

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you can go to our website and squatch America dot

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Bigfoot report form, or you can just email us Squatchamerica

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That's fantastic, So everyone head over to their YouTube account,

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subscribe and then let them know that you came from

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over here. But Scott, thank you so much for coming

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on the show, and we'll definitely be keeping.

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In touch with you all right. Thank you Jeremiah just.

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Wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you

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to you all, my listeners for listening to the podcast.

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had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know

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someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

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Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

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McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

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the north part. If you get what I mean, I'll

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see you back next time. Listeners. Sasat Summerfest this year

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July eleventh through the twelfth. It's gonna be fantastic July

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eleventh through twelfth in Greenwaters Park and Oakridge, Oregon, and listeners,

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if you're going to go, you can get a two

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day ticket for the cost of one. If you use

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the code b F S like Bigfoot Society, but BFS

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nice enough to provide that for my listeners, So there

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you go. I look forward to seeing you there, so

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