March 17, 2026

Glenn Adkins, Boots On The Ground Investigator for the Ohio Bigfoot Flap

Glenn Adkins, Boots On The Ground Investigator for the Ohio Bigfoot Flap
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Season 1

In this timely special episode, we sit down with Glenn Adkins of the Ohio Squatch Project to discuss the unprecedented surge of Bigfoot activity that gripped Northeast Ohio between March 6th and March 10th, 2026. Glenn brings a rare combination of skills to the field, having served as a police officer, park ranger, and firefighter. He shares how his investigative background and his years as the "right-hand man" to legendary researcher Robert W. Morgan have shaped his approach to this current crisis.


Don't miss this special report episode of Bigfoot Society where Glenn shares what's been going on in Ohio!

Resources:

https://www.ohiosquatchproject.com/

The writeup of the Ohio Bigfoot Flap so far -
https://www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com/blog/the-ohio-bigfoot-flap/

Bigfoot Observer's Field Manual book by Robert W. Morgan -
https://amzn.to/4bqDERX (Amazon Affiliate link)

In Search of Bigfoot documentary by Robert W. Morgan -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV6iSLhT25I


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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big Fat Society. We've

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got the privilege of talking to a gentleman who has

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been doing a lot of work lately, so let's just

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get into it. I'm going to talk about Glenn Atkins

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for a few minutes just so we're up to speed,

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and then we'll get further into the interview. But a

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lot of listeners will be aware of the Ohio Bigfoot

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flap that the public information happened between three six and

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three ten of twenty twenty six, and Glenn Atkins is

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the local bigfoot researcher along with his team, the Ohio

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Squatch project who's local to the area I've been partnering with,

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and so Glenn was able to come on for an interview,

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a timely interview to share a bit about, you know,

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his background and also what he has experienced in the

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area doing some investigations. So welcome to the show, Glenn.

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Anything else we need to know about you, Bud.

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No, no, no, no. The As far as the guys

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that are helping me, I have a postmaster and a

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science teacher, so they're pretty good guy. He's pretty well educated,

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and they keep being balanced.

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I love it. And this man's future. People that are

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not that are down the road maybe a few years.

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It's it's a very intense time. Just to give a

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little bit of background, I mean, I I've talked to

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news organizations like Fox News and the New York Post

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has headed out there and it's been international. So but

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Glenn is man. Glenn is handling it like a champ.

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He has. You know, Glenn, let's let's take some time

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and how did you get involved with this this bigfoot

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field to begin with?

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Way back in the day, you know, like a lot

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of people my age, it's when the movies were coming out,

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the Bogie Creek, the documentary about Robert Morgan, and I

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remember going to see that and watching it and I

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was totally just submerged in the hole. I want to

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be Robert Morgan when I grow up. I met Robert

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was in the area northeast Ohio. He's actually from Canton, Ohisle,

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which cracks me up. He's traveled the world. He's gone

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to Tibet, he's gone to Russia, all these places to

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look for Bigfoot. And he could have stayed home in

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his backyard and done the same thing. But back then

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it wasn't very popular. He was on the news on

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Channel twenty three news, which is a local old station.

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Sens it's not there, but I saw him one night

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and they were talking to him about a Bigfoot sighting

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that happened east of Alliance, Ohio, and I said, man,

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oh man, Bob's in town. I got you know, this

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would be the coolest guy to meet. So I called

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the news station and I said, hey, I'm a reporter

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from Kent State and I'm doing a for Kent State paper.

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I didn't even know what the name of it was.

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I didn't know if they had a paper, but they

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gave me Bob's information. So I called Bob and I

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told Bob the same thing. Bob was like, sure, I'll meet,

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Let's have a beer. I'm like, you know, this is happening.

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So I met Bob. The hardest part about meet and

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Bob was telling him I'm not a reporter. I'm just

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one of those psychotic people that believe in Bigfoot and

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really enjoyed the movie you did. And you know, I

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always wanted to meet you. And he looked at me

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the only way, Bob. You had to experience it. But

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when Bob looks at you, like what are you talking about?

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You know, he has that specific look that you just

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kind of like, is he gonna punch me or throat

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punch me? Or what is he gonna do? And we

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actually became best of friends. I worked for him for

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about ten years, constant right hand guy. I mean, if

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I wasn't at home, I was with Bob every day.

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And we started looking down in the Salt Fork area.

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We had some reports down there. He taught me so

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much about Native American history. And there's a whole other

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page too, you know them walking around as animals, there's

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you know, the Indian beliefs, the Native American beliefs, the

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history of what they've done and what you know, and

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a lot of times the question of wh they hear

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type thing come up, and he had answers for that too.

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I recommend the books that he's written. He wrote a

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book called the Ohio Bigfoot Pocket Manual or the Bigfoot

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Pocket Manual.

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Sorry, it's a classic. It's my favorite book.

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Yeah, and you know I was his guinea pig for that.

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Steve Jones and I. We didn't realize it at the time.

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He didn't tell us, but Steve Jones and I we

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worked basically those whole all those things that he did

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or talked about. We worked with Bob and Steve and

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I had an encounter that was up close and personal.

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And I tell everybody they let us see them. They

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had no reason to let us see them, but they did.

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It wasn't a I saw it crossing the road. I

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saw it duck over the hill or stand behind a tree.

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It was in the wide open, standing there waiting for

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us to look. And it changed me at that point

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and then I, you know, it's one of those I

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had to do it type things.

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Okay, So what what years would you say that you

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were spending this time with Robert W. Morgan.

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I would say like ninety two because my wife and

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I started dating in ninety one. And uh, that's a

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weird conversation you have with their girlfriend who just got

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out of you know, graduated with science degrees. And you

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say that guy on TV he looks for Bigfoot, he's

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my hero. She looks at me like you're an idiot,

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you know, but come to find out, she looks at

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me and says that a lot.

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We but it keeps you humble, right, it keeps you humble.

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Yeah. You know, any guy who says he's smarter than

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their wife, he's not happy because she keeps me in mind.

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It's always conversation. Yeah, yeah, my wife's the same. She

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keeps me, she keeps me in line. I love it.

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So so when you're hanging out with Robert W. Morgan

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or Robert is this around the same time they went

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on art Bell and and that classic interviewer Is that different?

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That's the same time? Oh my goodness?

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Yeah with bugs wow?

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Yeah, with bugs down Texas?

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Right? Yeah, oh my. While he was on art Bell

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a couple of times with the doing that, he we

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had the Wall Street Journal fly in a reporter and

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come out in the woods with us. All the major news,

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all the major channels in Cleveland area did a We

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did a press release and we did a interview session

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with Robert and he went to Kent State and acronew

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and did all the public speaking. Mantell Williams was another

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one who had to take time off to fly out

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to La to do Montell Williams. Yeah, he was pretty popular. Right.

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The thing is, Bob's kind of like the wind. He's

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there and then he's not. He disappeared for years and

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then he came back and then now you know, and

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then he would be gone for a while and then

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he'd come back into it. And he did that just

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too because it was so such a caddy group of people,

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the Bigfoot world. Do you know how that is? They

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He didn't want to play games with it. He didn't

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want to participate in that part. He wanted to go

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about his business and do what he was doing and

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just leave it at that. I mean there were times

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we hid from people. He said, Hey, we're going to

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park our cars here and we're going to drop off here.

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Somebody else is going to park their car here, and

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you're going to hike back to where we're at, so

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nobody knows we're here. And we did that to get

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rid of people hoaxing us, trying to compete with us,

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coming in on us because we were you know, and

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if you look at the Bigfoot Pocket Manual, he talks

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about doing specific things over and over. Let them know

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you're here, let them know what you're doing, who you are.

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And I firmly believe that they knew when we were

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there because of music that we played every time. It

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was a habitual thing that we got there. We did

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these things and they knew it was us, so they

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knew that they weren't in danger. We never ever carried

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guns in that area. We never provoked them. We gave

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them areas to where we knew that they were in

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that we just didn't go. That's their home. You stay

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there and we're not gonna We're not gonna barge in

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on your living room.

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It's so important. I think. I think something that the

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entire community needs to learn is there needs to be

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a respect when you go into an area and even

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maybe some kind of communication that hey, you know we're here.

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Tom Sewooed said, in a way, he's like, hey, you

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wouldn't just barge into someone's house and put your feet up.

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You might want to say, is it okay if I

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come in right? That kind of deal. But I also

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want to point out that just a footnote. You know

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Robert W. Morgan, I've met him before at a small

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town Monsters Monster Freest actually in Canton, and it was

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really cool to meet him and get my book signed,

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and he is just a gentleman. Where you know that

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documentary back in I Want today, he's the seventies filmed

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out in Cougar, Washington. Is it in Search of Bigfoot?

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Is the name of it?

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It was change names over the years. Yeah, there are

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three different times when people bought the rights.

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True. True. So I'll have links to his book and

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to his documentary. He's at the point where you know,

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he doesn't do interviews for we'll say, for certain health reasons,

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and but he's just got an amazing life and it's

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such a motivation to me in itself and for what

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it's worth. Thank you, Robert for everything did over the years.

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But Glenn, a question for you, so then that kind

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of kicks you off. But were there any specific times

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over the years where you were actually did you ever

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get to that point where you're actually able to have

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a visual of a big foot in the field or

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has it been more like class B encounters?

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No, No, No, lots of class B I guess they

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call them encounters. We've heard whoops, we've heard screams, We've

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heard you know, the knocking on trees. We've heard all

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these things. I was telling you the other day. My

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wife is hiking the Buckeye Trail and they're hiking along

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and she's here as wood knocks. Well, the friends with

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her just kept walking, didn't pay any attention to it.

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She knows what they are, and she's like looking around

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wondering what's happening. So there's a lot of activity in

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the area, but the biggest Steve Jones and I was

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in August of I want to say ninety one. But

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we were actually at Salt Fork doing our nightly thing

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that we always do. And Bob another one of the

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little Bob's, he's like Buddhists part of the time, I think,

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but he hated the fact that we went fishing. It's like, oh,

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you're pulling these poor animals out of the lake. They

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can't breathe. So Bob and he was with another guy

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in our group at the time. They left to go

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across the lake on a ridge to sit for the night.

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As soon as he left, Steve and I are like,

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all right, let's get our fishing stuff out. Bob's down here,

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so we start. We started unloading our fishing stuff and

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it's only because we're gonna be here for hours. We're bored,

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so we're getting our fishing stuff. We walk up to

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the edge of the lake, set our stuff down and

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something flies in a rock we assume into the water

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ahead of us, a big splash. We've been here for

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nine months to a year doing it, working with this

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family or group of bigfoot, and we're walking back to

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the truck. I said, at least we're going to be

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entertained tonight. He said, yeah, it seems like one of

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those nights. And we took the rest of our stuff

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back up to the lake and another rock came find it.

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I said, Steve, that didn't come from the woods. That

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came from the road. Now, this road was actually at

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Hassigs Cave and so forth, but the road dead ends

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into the water and at the time now there's like

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a cable goes across one once you drive down or anything,

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but nothing was there at that point. You know, that

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was before bigfooting was cool, and you know, I got

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stories all over the place, so they used to throw

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us out. But anyway, we uh, I said, Steeve, that

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came from down the road a little bit. That's not

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up in the woods. He says, yeah. I said, let's

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walk down there. So Steve and I started walking down

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and for some reason we weren't talking or anything, but

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we both turned our flashlights on at the same time,

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and there he was. He was standing fifteen yards ten

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yards away in the middle of the road looking at us.

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And I remember one of the you know, people like

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why did you get a picture? I'm telling you right now,

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getting a picture was the last thing on my mind.

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I didn't know whether to run, poot my pants. What

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I was, you know, it was this is It was crazy.

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But I do remember watching it take a breath and thinking,

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for a split second's not going to be any more

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oxygen to breathe after it breathed that in, because it

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was so big and the breath you could hear it,

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and it was it just looked at us, didn't snarl,

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didn't growl, didn't, you know, try to intimidate or anything else.

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It was kind of it sounds stupid, but it was

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kind of one of those we got our flashlights on it,

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We're looking at it, and it was kind of like, Okay,

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this is what you came for. Take your good look,

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you're done. Great. Turned around and walked up a hill

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that you can't walk up, but it walked up like

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it was going up the you know, steps to the bedroom.

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And I remember turning, taking two steps, turning back, taking

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two more steps, looking at Steve, saying Steve, He's like,

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I know, and he gets on a radio and he

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starts yelling, Bob, Bob, Bob. We have a sighting. We

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have a sighting. And I'm still running in a circle.

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I have no idea what I'm doing. You know, the panic,

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they're adrenaline, everything that's going on, and it was just

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total chaos in those few seconds afterwards.

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Oh wow, that that is. That is one of when

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I'm thinking of, like, if I'm ever privileged enough to

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have a sitium in Dad is just like, that's right there.

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I mean, that's that's closer than the length of a

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tennis court, right, I mean, it's.

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Within thirty see, yeah, thirty to forty people. It was.

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It was definitely And like I said, it's it's hard

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to explain how you feel at that point, but afterward,

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I mean, it's just you have such an adrenaline kick

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and rush. I mean I was a fireman, I was

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a cop. You know, go play guns with bad guys

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and you know, going to burning buildings. Always go. You know,

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it's never too hot, it's never too scary. You just

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go and do it. You get this big adrenaline rush.

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And then when I retired, you know, I replaces it

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a little bit. But you know, this was one of

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those times where you had to calm yourself, take a

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couple of breasts, think about everything, you know. And he

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has since passed on, but Steve was a great guy

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to witness it with. He was he was the host

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of w N I R K N R N I

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R of the Outdoor Hunting and Fishing Show, and that's

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how we got involved with him. He interviewed Bob and

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wanted to talk to you know, I listened to a

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show at work every night, so once I got in

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contact him, he wanted to interview Bob and he fit

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right in with us.

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I love that. That's such a cool story. So after

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you get Bob on the radio, were you able to

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track anything down or was it just lost to We.

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Didn't track anything. Now we Bob came over and you know,

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it was back in the video cameras that were on

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your shoulder type thing. I remember him videotape of me

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sitting on a pic bench. Asked me what you see

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and I'm like yelling him, hey, I know what it's

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all it was. You know, He's like, stop yelling at

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me and tell me what you know. And those that's

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there's a I'm still in the process of working trying

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to get some of these videos. There's a lot of

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video of us doing our research and stuff that is

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in Pennsylvania right now with the guy who's taking care

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of Bob. And if you go online on Facebook, I

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think it's the Robert Morgan project. He has that that

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you can communicate with Bob look at some of the

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videos and stuff like that. But there was a video

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on there that I watched and took me two times

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to realize that's me and my wife. I mean, that's

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how long ago it was, you know how different we were.

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But we talked about it. We it wasn't really safe

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for us to go walking in the woods in the

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condition is even I were in right then, But we

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also didn't want to pursue it to let him know, Hey,

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you let us see you. You came out here and

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talked to us. We're not going to chase you. Thank you.

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You know, we're not chasing you up through the woods tonight.

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Whether that was the right thing or wrong thing to

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do now, I don't know.

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Listen what an account Mike Gonnas suit. Were you able

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to see any details of the face in that encounter?

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Yeah, yeah, it was a typical you know what everybody

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long hair, hairy everywhere, not in the face as much

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had you know, all the way across head hair, But

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it wasn't so thick that you couldn't see skin, dark eyes,

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flatter nose, brow, ridge, conical type head, all the basic things.

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But like I said, the thing I remember most is

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when it took a breath, And like I said, for that,

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and I don't know why I was stupid to have

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that thought for this, but second, like he's gonna suck

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so much air out that I'm not going to have

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any to breathe.

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And I remember the biggest thing I thought of was

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Mighty's big. Now I've sat on the flour sheets for

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the cavaliers and I've seen these guys, and these guys

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are monster human beings, you know, just huge. They didn't compare.

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I mean they didn't compare. And it was more than

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just it being tall, close to eight feet tall. It

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was the mass and the size that it could have

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walked through and hurt anything that it wanted to. And

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there were times before that that, you know, Steve and

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I would lay down. He had one of those trucks

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and back in the nineties he had those aluminum caps

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they go on the back of your pickup truck up well,

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Steve and I would sleep in the back of his

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truck sometimes and as soon as we charch fall asleep,

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a stick or something would come flying out of the

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woods and land on top of that cap. Well, it's

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like a gong bell in your ear at that, you know.

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So we had interaction there. They'd come down throw something

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and then you'd hear something run up in the woods

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up the hill. A lot of awl sounds, a lot

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of you know, different bird imitations that weren't birds. We

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we used to I used to hike a couple of miles.

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They would drop me off at the top of the

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hill and I would hike down through the horse trail

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back to the where everybody was sleeping, and you would

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have them following you, and it was normal for them

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to do that. We actually had interactions with this group,

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this particular group of.

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Bigfoot, my goodness, based on what you saw on it,

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you experienced. Would you just tribe what you saw that

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day as something more ape like or human or not

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even able to put in either camp?

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You know what, I think. I hate using the word

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ape because I don't think they're apes. I think they're people.

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You know, every time I go to a talk at somewhere,

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they say, okay, well what are they? I don't know?

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They are what they are, and that's what I tell them.

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I said. It sounds like a cop out, but it's not.

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They're not okay, what as a human though almost you know,

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they're not us. But they're not a monkey that's overgrown either.

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You know, you can they obviously are better at this

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than we are because we haven't, you know, got a

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hold of any they are who they are? They a mix?

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Maybe I don't know. I just know that they they're

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a special group.

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I agree. It's still one of the great the great

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mysteries of the world. Even even if certain evidence is

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proved wrong. We still have the personal experience, we have

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the thousands of witness reports, and we have the oral

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tradition passed down in multiple First Nations tribes over the years,

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and you can't discount that. So that's that's kind of

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how we'll will address certain things that are going on

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the news right now recently.

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And that's I was thinking about that in the shower,

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and it's like, you know, it's terrible for the It's

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not either way, it doesn't matter. I you know, what

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happened back in sixty seven did not change what happened

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to me in two thousand and one exactly. And there

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are way too many people two that have seen this,

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and I'm still not convinced by anything that's going on,

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and we'll have to wait and see one.

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Can do you mind, h Do you mind talking a

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few minutes about how the Ohio Squatch Project came to

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be and what the goal of the group is and

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what you guys have done so far?

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Sure? Sure, I uh, I got out of it for

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a little bit. I have two daughters, and when I

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got out of it, I kind of stayed back and

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you know, followed on the internet that type of stuff.

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I still went out and did some hiking and stuff

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like that, not to the extent that I did when

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I was, you know, a lot younger. I did that

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because of society. Society, you know, as a whole, looks

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at us like we're idiots, and I'm okay with that.

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Everyone will to be an idiot, you know, people looking

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at us and you believe in Bigfoot, you believe, okay.

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You know. I did that to protect my daughters. I

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didn't want them to have the dad in middle school

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that was, you know, out looking for Bigfoot. So I

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didn't get in the media. I didn't do it. You know.

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I was offered a couple of times to do shows

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and things like that, and I turned them all down

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because I didn't. I didn't want to be whether because

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of my beliefs and because what I think is real.

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I didn't want to impact my daughters and their thoughts

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and their friends and everything else. So I just stayed

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out of it. I started going to the Ohio Bigfoot Conference,

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and I came up with this idea. I don't know

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if you even know about the squad stick.

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I've seen it before, okay, photo.

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I came up with that idea when I was working

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with Morgan on the top of Hassick's cave. One time.

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We had a wood knock and He's like answer, answer, answer.

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So I'm trying to pick up I'm picking up trees,

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I'm picking up rotten stumps and everything, and I couldn't

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get a knock back. So I started making those sticks

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called the squatch stick. I went to one of the

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obc's and sold out, and I was making these out

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in the garage and my wife came out the one

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day said what are you doing. I said, I'm making

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a stick to knock on trees to alert big Food

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that you're there. She said, you're what I told her again,

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and she looked at me says, you know what, You're

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an idiot, and if anybody buys this, they're an idiot.

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I'm like, oh, fair enough. So I sold out, gave

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her the money, and now I'm not such an idiot.

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But we started making that. They used them on Animal

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Planet with the Finding Bigfoot show. Okay, those are the

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same ones that they used on Finding Bigfoot.

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Really, that is fascinating.

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Renee got a hold of me actually because I talked

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to one of her producers who saw me at a show.

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I gave him a stick to give to them. They

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got a hold of me and wanted to use them.

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So that's what Cliff and Bobo and you know, they

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told me stories that you know, Bobo had somebody on

457
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staff to keep track of his stick because he would

458
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:35.000
leave it everywhere he went. But Cliff used it on

459
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:38.039
a couple of his shows that he did, and anyway,

460
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:41.759
it became pretty popular and so we sell those and

461
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.119
I needed a website to do it. So I thought,

462
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:48.359
ohio a squatch project that keeps me located local, and

463
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:53.279
found out quickly that running a website is not something

464
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:57.519
you can do once a month. No, and like what

465
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:01.400
you're doing, I just don't. And that's where Jeff started

466
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:04.000
taking over the website. And now he's running it, putting

467
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.799
more stuff on it, more pictures, and we're trying to

468
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.519
get it up and going a little a little more

469
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:14.799
than we did. But I was running it because I

470
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:16.680
just I'm not that guy either.

471
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:21.960
So that's cool and so well, I guess this might

472
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.799
come up and when we get to our next segment.

473
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:28.079
But you guys are also I know you have this

474
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.599
last week. You're going out as a group to certain things,

475
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:33.839
areas and investigating, et cetera.

476
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:39.319
Right right, And you know the initial I guess purpose

477
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:43.759
for having this website was, you know, somebody's gonna call

478
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:45.279
me and say, hey, I have a big foot chained

479
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.319
up in the backyard, come and investigate. And that never

480
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:53.359
actually happened. So that's what you know. We wanted to

481
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.440
hear some sightings. Wanted to do this, and there's so

482
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:01.079
much involved in it. I started looking at BFROS website,

483
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:08.279
which has hundreds and thousands and somebody's doing crazy amount

484
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:13.440
of work on that website. But you know they post

485
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.359
all the sightings and you try to look at those

486
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:21.640
and what you get and go from there. Got a

487
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:25.319
little more time since I've retired, and I have some

488
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.160
guys to come help me. Now that you know, that's

489
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.319
what I actually reached out to you at the one time.

490
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.559
I said, hey, I'm here if you need anything, love

491
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:36.680
to go work out or go look at some of

492
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:40.920
these things. I'm close, And that's what I wanted. I

493
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.519
think it's awesome to hear about sightings in West Virginia, Washington, Oregon,

494
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:49.880
Indiana and all these other places. Let's be honest, I'm

495
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.640
not going to travel that far on a whim because

496
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:58.319
somebody saw someone across the road. It's just not possible.

497
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:03.160
You know, I have family, I've got people here that

498
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:05.440
I have to take care of my dogs. You know,

499
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:10.000
just life is going on. So you know that was

500
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:14.599
part But you know, you and I have managed to

501
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:16.559
catch a big one. I guess what you.

502
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:20.240
It's it's it. You know, we'll get to that story

503
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.599
in a minute or two, but it is. Uh. I

504
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.759
just wanted to lay that foundation where there are so

505
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.960
many questions right now, where do you have a guy

506
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.799
that's or do you have an individual that's helping you?

507
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:36.519
Like are you just letting all this slide? And like

508
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:39.640
what's with the guy that you're working with? Like this

509
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:42.880
is Glenn and so you can see his background who

510
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.559
he worked with, who was an incredible Robert W. Morgan's

511
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.240
incredible and individual in the Bigfoot space knows this stuff.

512
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.839
So Glenn knows this stuff. He's he's had a class

513
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.880
a sighting. Uh, he knows knows what he's doing. So

514
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.759
it is in I would say it's in great hands.

515
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:05.000
No, I just and you again. You We've had these

516
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:09.680
conversations with us before that there are different types of

517
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.559
people that want to do research, those who said at

518
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:17.119
the computer, those who you know, and we've ran into

519
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:20.960
some of these people during these investigations that are calling

520
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:24.759
themselves researchers that you look at and like, okay, you go,

521
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:29.039
do you And there are people that I would love

522
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:33.119
to work with and there. But the biggest thing is

523
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:39.279
I don't think that I'm that guy that is off

524
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:41.279
my rocker type thing, you know, Like I said, I

525
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:47.319
was a cop, I was a ranger, I was a firefighter, paramedic.

526
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:53.079
I have a family, my wife's got multiple science degrees.

527
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.799
We it's hard to and I was having this conversation

528
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:03.039
last night with somebody in the field of law enforcement.

529
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:08.799
It's hard to get yourself away from that typical persona

530
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:15.200
of bigfoot researcher into normal person, you know, because you

531
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.279
walk up the cop or somebody like that, Hey, I'm

532
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:21.079
looking for bigfoot. Great, could you walk this line for

533
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:25.680
me and tell me that you're sober while you're doing it.

534
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:32.359
It's a very fine line of crazy not crazy, and

535
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:32.839
you're not.

536
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:40.920
Yet dance in the edge so so that being said

537
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.920
is your skills have definitely come into play. Having those

538
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:52.079
prior law enforcement investigative skills in the non bigfoot and

539
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.319
in the bigfoot world, it makes for quite the combination

540
00:32:56.039 --> 00:33:01.440
which has really gotten some interesting Uh there's been some

541
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:04.200
interesting results because of it. But you know, Glenn, what

542
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:09.000
I would like, do you mind just kind of sharing

543
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:14.119
with us your experience so far through the beginning of this.

544
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.359
I mean, how you even knew like I should reach

545
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:19.480
out to this guy right away? Like, how did you

546
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.559
how did you know to reach out so early?

547
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.200
I don't know. I honest to god, I don't know.

548
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:34.920
I've seen your podcasts and things like that. I don't

549
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:39.000
do a lot of them as far. I've given interviews.

550
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.759
Don't get me wrong, but I don't listen to a

551
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.519
lot of them because at some point you're just like,

552
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:48.960
you know, I don't know.

553
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:50.279
And right.

554
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.640
It was weird because I don't usually reach out like

555
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.640
that saying hey, if you need something, I'm a hero,

556
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:59.400
and if you do, you don't usually hear back from

557
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:04.039
them because a lot of people, and here's the unique

558
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.319
thing about this is a lot of people that are

559
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.920
doing this type of thing are very protective, you know,

560
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.280
of their lawn. It's like, you know, you're not going

561
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.880
to come over and pee on my lawn. I you

562
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:18.679
know this is mine. I'm not going to tell you anything,

563
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:21.920
but I want you know. So a lot of those

564
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.639
conversations don't go very far. And it was weird that

565
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:31.880
yours and I did. But when I saw I can't

566
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:33.800
explain to you, Like I said, I don't usually do that,

567
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:39.760
but I know the area. I've investigated things up there before.

568
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:46.000
The one guy who started working with me, his name

569
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:50.599
is Mike, and he told me years and years and

570
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.719
years ago, probably ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, whatever it was,

571
00:34:55.239 --> 00:35:01.679
he was in that area at night doing geocash and

572
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:05.440
he had something screamed at him and he had no

573
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:11.599
idea what it was at the point, so he uh

574
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:13.960
told me the story and it was just like, oh, that's,

575
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:16.400
you know, kind of weird that there's been a lot

576
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.599
of sightings in that area and he happened to have

577
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.480
one or an encounter and it could have been a bobcat,

578
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.559
it could have been something else. I'm not saying it

579
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.760
was bigfoot, but it was just one of those extra

580
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:29.199
bit of story, I guess.

581
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:33.920
And was that around man Away or just yeah, region around.

582
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:45.039
The Raven Arsenal that's up there as always always always

583
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:50.760
intrigued people. And you. I had that conversation. I was

584
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:54.320
talking to it and for some reason, I said, talking

585
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.639
about the Arsenal, and she said, you know what, that's

586
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.480
just a weird place. They do things there that we

587
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.920
don't know about and they don't want us to know about.

588
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:04.880
And to be honest with you, I don't think I

589
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.880
want to know about what they're doing there, which just

590
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.480
adds to the whole mystique of the Arsenal.

591
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:18.039
Let's throw a huge allegedly in there too, yes, sorry, alleged, Yeah,

592
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:22.199
because my goodness, there are people going to watch a huge.

593
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:25.679
But yeah, I remember that came up in our conversation early.

594
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:30.079
You were like, You're like, you're pretty much like be

595
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:34.639
aware of this area that the arsenal.

596
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:40.679
Well, I got drawn. They have a real big deer

597
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:45.760
population in the Arsenal itself, and every year, like every weekend,

598
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.840
they have a controlled hunt. You know, those are they

599
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:53.159
want people come in and call the population a deer down,

600
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:57.320
a huge deer. There's a deer called Hole in the

601
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.199
Horn that was killed right outside the fence it's a

602
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:05.800
ravenna arsenal that's a world record type deer. But they

603
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.199
have a large population. They want you to come in.

604
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:10.800
They want you to kill all these deer. Every weekend

605
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:13.760
they have a gun hunt there to try to kill them. Well,

606
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:15.280
when you get there in the morning, you have to

607
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.119
get there at like five am, and you go to

608
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:22.159
this big hallway it's an empty barracks like building, and

609
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.960
they tell you I've done this a couple of times,

610
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:27.400
and they tell you you know, you're going to be

611
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:31.199
taken to an area by a chaperone and dropped off.

612
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.079
You're not allowed to leave that area. You're not allowed

613
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.480
to take any cameras, you're not allowed to take any photos,

614
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.480
you're not allowed to pick up anything, you're allowed to

615
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.000
not allowed to take anything out, you're not allowed to

616
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:47.800
wonder from where you're supposed to be. And real, real,

617
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.960
real strict, I mean real. It's just one of those Okay,

618
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:56.719
it's a munitions area, but are they really leaving you know,

619
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.280
bombs outside in the middle of the field that they don't.

620
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:03.880
Want because it's it's federally owned, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

621
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:09.519
Somebody told me recently that Trump talked about it. There

622
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:13.159
is last run a president or this one that they've

623
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:19.280
talked about, and it was actually selected because northeast Ohio,

624
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:20.639
and I don't know if you know this or not,

625
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:27.239
we're horrible when it comes to sunshine. We're second only

626
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.800
to like Seattle, Washington when it comes to overcast skies.

627
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:33.800
So no spice adellites or anything you could pick up

628
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:36.360
what we had at Ravenna because it's always cloudy.

629
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:43.159
Oh, that's really interesting. That's a great piece of information

630
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:47.559
right there. Okay, So I think that's great because and

631
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:52.320
there's other areas where I mean, I think I know

632
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:56.679
West Branch State Park, there is a history of activity

633
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:00.159
over there. We can so these these are south of

634
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.480
the sighting reports, right.

635
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:07.639
And you've got a lot of those south West Branch, Berlin.

636
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:15.519
I've had sightings at Walbourne Reservoir, Deer Creek Reservoir, and

637
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:18.320
these are all reservoirs that drained into the Ohio River.

638
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.000
They're meant to maintain the level of the Ohio River

639
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.880
to be able to keep shipping going during the summertime

640
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:29.760
when drought occurs. So a lot of times these lakes

641
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.480
are very low or depending on what the water levels needed.

642
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:34.719
Down Street.

643
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:43.320
Gotcha. So as as we've gone along this last week,

644
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:48.039
pretty much how it would work is if I was

645
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:50.119
at the point where I would be able to get

646
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.840
a phone call from a witness, and then I would

647
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:55.719
talk to them and just to make sure things felt

648
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:58.960
pretty good, and then I would be Okay, would you

649
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.199
like to talk to local bigfoot researcher that I've been

650
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:04.960
talking to so he can check things out and maybe

651
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.880
look for tracks, et cetera. And there are a few

652
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:12.000
of these individuals, not all of them, but definitely maybe

653
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:16.199
a few that you're able to to talk to over

654
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:20.039
the last few days. Are there any any events you

655
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:23.159
can share from from checking out these properties?

656
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:28.599
Yeah, and that was very helpful you talking to them,

657
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:32.239
like pre screening. I didn't run into the crackpots that

658
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:35.480
sometimes I run into. And I don't mean that a negative.

659
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.079
Some people just want to like watch this. I'm gonna

660
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:40.639
get a big foot researcher out here to look at

661
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:44.920
my property, and nothing's happened, but let's pull them. Okay,

662
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:47.239
that's fun. Great, glad you had fun, but you know

663
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:53.880
that's not fun for us. I was in Washington, d C.

664
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:57.199
Six seventh and eight, and I remember coming back and

665
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:01.440
this was like really peaking, and you and I talked

666
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.400
and I got the guys together. I think it was

667
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:08.360
Tuesday night. We were heading up north from where we

668
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:14.440
were to investigate the man Away Trail, the one I

669
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:15.320
forget the name of the.

670
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.320
Trailhead, Oh, is that the one over in Garrettsville, the

671
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:20.559
Headwaters Trail.

672
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:25.000
Direct Headwaters Track, And Mike had actually geo cashed that

673
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.639
trail before, so he knew where we were going. And

674
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:31.079
we actually got to this intersection in Porters County and

675
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:34.440
I turned left to head down the road and you

676
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:38.119
called me and said, Hey, where you're at. I said, well,

677
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:40.559
we're almost at the trailhead. You knew where were going there.

678
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:45.719
I said, we're six minutes out. And I said, well,

679
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.679
I don't know if you're interested or not. But in

680
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:53.679
the last hour there was another sighting and she saw

681
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:56.400
it in the front yard within the last well, was

682
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:59.199
it like seven o'clock. Then at six o'clock is when

683
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:02.360
she saw it somewhere in that timeframe, and I'm like,

684
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.639
where's Jeff, who was sitting in the front seat with me,

685
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.639
was typing in your phone as you were talking, and

686
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:11.039
he's like, you're eight minutes away. I'm like, we'll be

687
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.480
there in eight minutes. And we hadn't even called the

688
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:17.519
lady yet. We were right down the road. So we

689
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:22.440
ended up going there, and we pulled into this road

690
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.119
and we get out and she comes out and starts talking,

691
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:29.599
and we're trying to slow her down a little bit and.

692
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:35.079
Get a younger individual or the older one the younger one.

693
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.239
And because she and the lady who had the sighting

694
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:42.599
was actually still in the house looking out the window

695
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:44.360
at us, like I don't want to go out there.

696
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:48.119
She wanted nothing to do with us. So I asked her,

697
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:51.000
I said, you know, that's what she come to find out,

698
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:52.840
that's her mom. I said, can you ask your mom

699
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:56.440
to come out here and talk to me? And she said, yeah,

700
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:58.440
hold on, and she went back and got her mom.

701
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:03.679
Mom came out and pointed out where everything was. It

702
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:06.199
was about one hundred yard eighty to one hundred yards

703
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:09.880
probably from her house. But they had the big, big

704
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:15.000
front window. Look it out. She's sitting watching TV. And

705
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:17.960
you know, as we were talking, it's like, how many

706
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.639
times does this lady look out this window? You know,

707
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:26.199
in her lifetime, millions looked out saw something walk from

708
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.280
the edge of the woods. There was a clear area,

709
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.599
and that's where it didn't come out of the woods.

710
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.039
It walked along the edge of the woods, inside the woods.

711
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.880
But they had a tornado a couple of years ago

712
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:41.159
and all the trees in that little area had been

713
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:44.400
cleared out. They cut away, and the guy who owns

714
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:48.360
the property cleaned it up real well. So it didn't

715
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:50.079
walk out of the woods. It stayed in the woods,

716
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:54.760
but it walked through the opening and stayed back and

717
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.159
then went back down into the swampy area where the

718
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:01.920
brush was. Art was pretty believable. It didn't come out,

719
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.400
you know, and dance a jigger or anything, telling hey,

720
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:08.119
I'm here. But she was definitely and she made the

721
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:11.800
comment to me, which was really funny because of what

722
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.039
you had that comment made to you you talked about

723
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:19.039
on another podcast of I don't know what I saw,

724
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:24.639
but I saw it. It's there, And she doesn't believe,

725
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:29.079
right right, she's a non believer. Her daughter's a believer.

726
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:31.800
Her daughter's into it. Her daughter has all the books,

727
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:36.639
which you know people have. I've been questioned by other

728
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.960
people from other groups, well, how do you know this

729
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:42.519
is legit or why is all of a sudden he

730
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:46.559
getting all the information. Like, guys, you start talking about

731
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:50.239
state dinners at your house and state dinners start popping

732
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:54.880
up on your cellphone. What happened was the lady she

733
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:59.320
worked in man Away, her friends saw the Man Away sighting,

734
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.320
sent her to link to your show. She popped it

735
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.960
up on her phone, watched what was going on. So

736
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.039
what's going to come up on her phone next time?

737
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:11.199
Same thing? So you were the first thing that popped

738
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:13.800
up on her phone after she had seen the Man

739
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:17.320
a Way sighting. So it was very or easy to

740
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.519
understand why if she called you, and why you're the

741
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.039
person getting called because you were you know.

742
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.320
And I want to Actually, that is a really good

743
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:29.840
thing to bring up. So we'll pause for a second

744
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:31.679
because a lot of people have been like, why is

745
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:35.039
Bigfoot society getting the only person getting these and not

746
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:38.840
this outlet or this outlet. Guys, it's because I use

747
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:42.679
social media that is newer, and the algorithm on TikTok

748
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:47.519
is so incredibly strong. And what happened was those algorithms

749
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:52.440
went insane, and then different news outlets started picking it up,

750
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:56.519
and then major news outlets and international news outlets, and

751
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.199
it was a domino effect. So that's the easiest way

752
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:03.079
to explain it was that that happened.

753
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:06.719
And that's why it happened, man, you know, and I

754
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.159
think that that's why a lot of people that have

755
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:13.480
the bigger websites were questioning things like, well, why is

756
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.360
he getting all this stuff and we're not because he's

757
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:19.800
the one who started it and his sign is coming

758
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:23.039
up first. Yeah, that's the way it is.

759
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:25.920
Also, I did not I just want to say I

760
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.519
didn't ask for this, and I'd rather just hang out

761
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:34.559
in my studio room and talk to witnesses alter instead

762
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:39.280
of having to do interviews. So but uh, let's let's

763
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:45.239
get back to did you good with your phone call? Uh?

764
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:50.639
Yeah, we'll talk about this later. It's actually from the

765
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:55.119
conversation we had last night. It's a response to that.

766
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:59.760
Oh geez, that's funny. That's funny. Okay, So let's continue

767
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:05.360
that we have paused during the Windham sighting. Sorry, And

768
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:07.519
this is probably what's been happening to Glenn. I would

769
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:11.519
think during this week is he's just getting some interesting calls,

770
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:16.000
so I can only imagine. But so back to Wyndham.

771
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:20.960
So you're you're talking to the daughter and the mother,

772
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:24.800
and you were kind of explaining how how the daughter

773
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:28.960
is definitely into Bigfoot, but the the mother is, uh,

774
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:33.639
definitely a skeptic. And the way she said that to

775
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:35.920
me was, I'm trying to remember the exact way she said,

776
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:38.840
I know what I saw, but I'm not sure what

777
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:42.000
I saw, which is kind of a It's very interesting.

778
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:45.559
These people have really been going through a lot. But

779
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:46.559
continue with your.

780
00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:48.239
Base.

781
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:50.440
Oh yeah, you know.

782
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:56.599
She says it was a reddish, you know, uh, light brown,

783
00:47:56.719 --> 00:48:00.239
and they have a one of those type dogs that

784
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:02.960
was running around with us, great dog that it was

785
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.880
a tan color. And I said, oh, like this, and

786
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:10.360
she says, no, it's a little darker, which you know,

787
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.639
and we've gotten black brown, you know, all kinds of

788
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:20.079
colors now, a lot of that is the one. There's

789
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.880
always been more than one big Foot. They never travel alone,

790
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:26.360
and Bob Boys told me that that they are never alone. Now,

791
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:28.920
when I say alone, I don't mean hand in hand.

792
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:30.840
I mean within a hundred and two hundred and three

793
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.519
hundred yards of each other. Number two, With the light

794
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:40.559
and shadows and different times of day that we have

795
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:46.519
right now, that sunshine on a dog or on any

796
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.280
animal is going to reflect a different color at certain

797
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:54.480
times of the day. So yeah, that never bothers me

798
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:56.239
when they well, I saw a black one, I saw

799
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.760
a red one over here, okay, the one. It could

800
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:03.280
be two animals or two people, or it could just

801
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:06.000
be the way the sun is coming through the trees

802
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:09.400
and reflects off of that to you know, make that

803
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:14.079
color appear to be that way to a person. So

804
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.360
I never got too much in the color when people

805
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:22.239
calling them out on, well, you can't have two different.

806
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:29.079
You okay, yeah, right, okay, interesting. Interesting when you were there,

807
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:33.280
was there anything you notice? That's a question I've been

808
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.280
getting a lot, I guess I should say, is that,

809
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:39.760
you know, are you guys finding anything, any evidence anything

810
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:44.360
when this is being investigated that you know or you know,

811
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:46.639
people just really want to know what's going on boots

812
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:48.519
on the ground. I guess that's what I'm getting over

813
00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:49.199
and over.

814
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:53.639
Right, And there wasn't anything that we were sent some

815
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:59.800
pictures of supposed prints. I have a real hard time

816
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:05.199
with them. I didn't. Yeah, And you know, just because

817
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.800
there's deer traction doesn't mean there's deer there all the

818
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:12.239
time either. But just because there's not deer tracks doesn't

819
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:16.280
mean deer aren't going through there either. So you know,

820
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:19.360
the ground was a lot harder than I thought it

821
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:23.119
was going to because we had been raining and I thought, man,

822
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:26.719
that'll be really nice getting some soft ground. And we

823
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:29.119
tried like heck to make some tracks jump up and

824
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.159
down in our boots, and it didn't make any in

825
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:37.719
print at all. So I wasn't surprised to not find tracks.

826
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:41.800
I was. There are some things that we look for

827
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:45.880
when we go in the woods that Bob taught us about, structures,

828
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:49.639
different things like that. We look at a map and see, well,

829
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:51.239
how does it get from point A to point B?

830
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.199
Look at this, There's a nice little corridor for it

831
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:57.960
to go through. There's a railroad track there, there's power

832
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:02.199
lines that go through there. There's different stuff that you know,

833
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:06.440
we look at could have beat you absolutely. And again

834
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:08.960
we you know, we pointed out some places where we

835
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:11.639
thought it was going to go, and when we left

836
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:16.480
there that night, within two miles of where it was,

837
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:20.719
we ran right into where we thought it would go

838
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:22.280
that we talked about days.

839
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:26.559
Before, which is wild. How that's that's a great thing

840
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:29.119
to point out, is that you ask, we've been talking

841
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.559
quite a bit over the last few weeks. The last week,

842
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:37.000
you have pretty much been able to say, uh, it's

843
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.800
going here next, and then I'll be like, hey, Glenn,

844
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:42.280
got a call for you. Guess guess where the sighting

845
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.599
was next? Yeah, it's there, Like it's it's wild how

846
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.079
you have had a really good forecast, which we haven't

847
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.920
been putting out there because we don't want to. You

848
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:53.840
don't want to influence things right.

849
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:56.559
Right, and you know people are like, well, you got

850
00:51:56.559 --> 00:52:01.599
to go investigate everything, and you and I I don't

851
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:05.760
want to sound like a prude or anything, but you

852
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:07.440
can chase them all you want to. You're not going

853
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:11.559
to catch them. Sure, Yeah, you know if you tell

854
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:14.599
me at that point a B and then C. I've

855
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:17.800
got to be a D or E. I can't go

856
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:19.800
to A B or street because they're gone. They're not

857
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:20.599
there anymore.

858
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.480
You gotta be a step ahead if you can, if.

859
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:27.480
A step ahead, and guess correctly and hope that they're

860
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:33.239
there because, like I said, unless you know within the hour, heck, yeah,

861
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:36.480
I'm going to that call because if it's taking a

862
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.519
nap or chilling out, I want to be there when

863
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:45.119
A wakes up. Yeah, a day two days afterward, you're

864
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:49.039
back to being cold. I mean you're not. You're looking

865
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.039
at places that it was instead of places it's going

866
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:57.599
to be, and only because you know, I wasn't predicting

867
00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.559
the future. I was predicting where the others sightings have

868
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:04.599
been in the past and saying, hey, I know that

869
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:07.480
they go here, here, and here. I know there's legitimate

870
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.280
sightings here, here, and here. It's moving this way.

871
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:14.119
You know, how were you able to forecast that it

872
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:17.280
would probably follow the sightings would follow a certain direction.

873
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:21.559
Is there a maybe a do they usually follow a

874
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:23.719
river in this area or or what was it that

875
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:24.840
gave you that clue?

876
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:32.320
There are there are rivers, and there are pathways. I

877
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:37.079
guess what would call them. I hate using the word

878
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:41.199
migration route because it's not like a migration. It's when

879
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:44.440
they're going from point A to point B. Now, you

880
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:49.199
and I talked about what caused all these sightings this quick?

881
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:54.800
Why are they having them? And I told you I

882
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:57.679
think that you need to look at what a sighting

883
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:03.039
needs to happen to have a sighting, and you need

884
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:06.039
a big foot, of course, which is pretty rare. You

885
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:09.000
need people out there. That's why salt Fork is such

886
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:14.920
a big place for sightings is because it's one of

887
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:18.840
the most populated state parks in the state of Ohio.

888
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.920
You have a huge lake, you have a huge amount

889
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:26.119
of woods, and a huge number of visitors, and all

890
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:28.519
these people are put in there, and you have bigfoot.

891
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.440
They go through that area. Sometimes they hang out in

892
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:34.000
that area. And when you mix it two, the more

893
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:36.400
people you have looking for something, the more likely you're

894
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:42.360
going to find it. What you had was kind of

895
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:46.639
a you know, I don't know how you needle in

896
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:50.800
a haystack situation where you had bigfoot that they would

897
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:55.679
walk through here this time of year and usually in

898
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:58.840
Ohio and Northeast Ohio at the beginning of March, it's

899
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:02.800
not really a hospitable place. I mean it was all

900
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:05.119
of a sudden, she had like three or four days

901
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:09.599
of seventy degree weather. Everybody and their brother was outside

902
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:12.960
walking these trails. Everybody and their brother were out there

903
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.280
getting air and getting some fresh air and stuff because

904
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:18.400
they hadn't. But you go outside now we have two

905
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:23.280
or three inches of snow on the ground, so that

906
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:27.880
you have a window of all these people at warm

907
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:32.159
in Ohio. We've got to get outside yeah, and that's

908
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:35.280
what we do. You know, it's not an everyday thing.

909
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:39.519
But you had thousands of people and the outdoors hiking

910
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:43.199
trails getting the fresh air that they haven't gotten in months,

911
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:46.039
and you have bigfoot crossing them, and now all of

912
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:47.519
a sudden, you have a perfect storm.

913
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.840
That's incredible. So really, what you're kind of saying, and

914
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:54.360
just let me know if I heard this right, is

915
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:57.519
that this movement happens every year, but the humans haven't

916
00:55:57.559 --> 00:55:59.639
been out to see the movement happen.

917
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.159
That's the only thing I could think of. Yeah, now

918
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.320
I've gotten out because I've gotten a lot of reports

919
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:09.239
even north of where you're at now, and they said

920
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:14.280
early early spring. I'd love to tell you the name

921
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.519
of the place, but I can't really. Back when I

922
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:20.559
was working with Bob, we got about this laces every

923
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:24.239
for about a week. We have these abandoned railroad tracks

924
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:27.760
behind my house, and for about a week every spring

925
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:34.360
we hear hows and whoops and stuff like that, and

926
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.440
then it goes away, and then the next spring we

927
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:41.280
hear the same thing. So they're moving through there, and

928
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:46.039
you know there's been movement all over you know that

929
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:50.800
northeast Ohio and whether it's that week or that month,

930
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:54.000
or just that time that they felt like doing it.

931
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:58.480
I don't think things were expected to be so nice

932
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:03.239
to introduce all this huge population of people being outside.

933
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:07.400
So I think that's one of the most logical explanation

934
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.360
theories I've heard so far. That and the mushrooms are

935
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:15.440
starting to come into season. Did you so? I didn't

936
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:19.800
tell you this before, but there so, I'm getting a

937
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:21.800
lot of emails right now because of what happened in

938
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:24.760
northeast Ohio a few hours ago. Did you see that

939
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:31.199
meteorite come down? So everyone, we're getting out of there.

940
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:36.800
I like your theory a little bit better. But well, I'm.

941
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:41.039
Hoping that I'm not going out in the woods with meteorites.

942
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:42.000
There's something that.

943
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:49.840
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, no meteorites. Guys, careful out there, but

944
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:53.639
good stuff. So did you have any other thoughts on

945
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:55.519
the window investigation.

946
00:57:56.400 --> 00:58:00.320
No, I think that they're telling the truth, okay, just

947
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.840
because we can't find tracks or we just you know,

948
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:06.639
I believe talking to people and hearing things from them

949
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:11.639
up close and personal is important to an investigation to

950
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:16.719
know the truth or not. I have investigated, you know,

951
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:21.559
plenty to where I knew that they were lying, and sure, yeah,

952
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:25.199
I hate to say that they were lying, but they

953
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:29.039
weren't being truthful. And it's happened a lot of times.

954
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:32.639
Were you guys able to go back to Headwaters at

955
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:33.239
all after that?

956
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:34.960
No?

957
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:39.119
Okay, No, I know that that place has been super active,

958
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:41.840
and I don't even know if it'd be worth investigating

959
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:44.719
right now because there's so many it's so accessible, right

960
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:45.760
like right.

961
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:49.159
And yeah, once some of the other places started getting

962
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.599
I mean, you know I talked about there's actually the

963
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:56.440
one of the people who sent us the call, and

964
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:00.440
you know, I don't fault them for it. They wanted

965
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:02.800
somebody to come out, and we weren't those people. Then

966
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:06.199
they contacted other people, and you know, I've had those

967
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:08.599
people call me and say, hey, I've talked to your witness,

968
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:12.400
and I'm like, okay, great, you know have that it.

969
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:17.519
I don't believe going back there. It's like if you

970
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:22.719
tell everybody you know, free Hamburgers and McDonald's, right, you

971
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.199
go buy McDonald's, that's going to be busy.

972
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:28.079
This is this is a really actually another good footnote

973
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:31.000
to put in here. So when you have a situation

974
00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:34.199
like this that has so much media presence on it,

975
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:37.320
and like people looking at it like this is back.

976
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:39.639
It feels like it's back in the nineteen seventies, even

977
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:42.039
though I wasn't around, And like, so people need to

978
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:45.239
realize you have bigfoot researchers from all over the US

979
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:48.360
coming in and like, all this investigation going on, and

980
00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:50.800
we're not going to know the whole story probably for

981
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:54.199
years because some of these people probably they won't even

982
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:56.800
talk about maybe what they found. And that's just how

983
00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:59.400
it is with some people in the community. And so

984
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:02.800
you have all this investigation going on at the same time.

985
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:06.119
And so I just have a connection with Glenn because

986
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:08.000
I've been, you know, talking to him through this.

987
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:13.199
And the funny thing about that one is I remember

988
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:17.800
getting up for school one day and my dad showing me,

989
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:23.800
who was like maybe late elementary or early middle school,

990
01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:26.840
showing me the headlines of paper Bigfoot in Minerva.

991
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:30.639
Oh wow, And I'm.

992
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:34.400
Like, where's Minerva. Yeah, I was. This was when we

993
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.960
lived in Porties Lakes area, and I'm like, where's Minerva

994
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:40.559
And he told me, and he's like, you want to go,

995
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:43.559
I'll drive you there. I'm like, no, I'm good. You know.

996
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:47.079
I was a teenager at the time. I was more interested.

997
01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:48.960
I'm not gonna be able to talk to my girlfriend

998
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:55.400
tonight if I go to Minerva. So but and I

999
01:00:56.159 --> 01:01:00.599
never told you this, and I meant too. I just conversations.

1000
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:05.400
Let other places I'd met with that family. I wentt

1001
01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:09.920
with them several times. Bob was actually there during that

1002
01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:16.639
flat and Bob took me there back in nineteen ninety

1003
01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:19.239
one or ninety two, and we sat in their living

1004
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:22.039
room in or a kitchen area, right by the window

1005
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:24.039
where they saw it the first time, and had coffee

1006
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:25.400
with them for two hours.

1007
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:26.760
Oh my goodness.

1008
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:32.440
So I learned a lot about what happened. Later, when

1009
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:36.840
I was a ranger, I met a deputy that told me.

1010
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:39.719
I ended up being partnered with a retired deputy in

1011
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:43.119
Stark County that was on the scene of those calls.

1012
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:46.920
So, oh man, it was one.

1013
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:50.639
Of those I wasn't old enough to be involved. But

1014
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:54.159
I really ended up learning a lot from every aspect

1015
01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:57.039
of it, from Bob, you know, taking me the end

1016
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.000
of the woods there, from the interviews to the police

1017
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:02.239
talking to me. You know, my partner and I had

1018
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:05.960
nothing else to talk about dinner, So you're just telling

1019
01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:09.760
me what you know his opinions. Part of the deputies saying, oh, no,

1020
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:12.480
it was fake. Part of the deputies are like, I

1021
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:17.280
ain't going back here at night ever. No, So it

1022
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:19.239
was sorry to spring this on.

1023
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:22.119
You, like, no, no, this is incredible because it just

1024
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:25.840
proves even more how you're one thousand percent the right

1025
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:28.360
person to be involved with this since you were also

1026
01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:33.119
had that that caught that common Uh you know that

1027
01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:34.920
that connection with the Minerva.

1028
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:38.280
I started by there all the time, not all the time.

1029
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:39.000
It's so cool.

1030
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:47.000
Yeah, I actually had to be three years ago. Four

1031
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:48.920
years ago, maybe I stopped buying. Talked to him a

1032
01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:53.559
little bit, and she says, well, there's still some activity

1033
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:56.280
goes on, especially around the fourth of July. They liked

1034
01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:04.519
the fireworks, right, okay, okayo fourth of July?

1035
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:11.000
Yeah, exactly? Were there any other uh so right now

1036
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.400
the public ones go through Lake Milton on the tenth.

1037
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:19.039
Were there any others that you were able to investigate.

1038
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:24.840
In that most of them? I talked to a couple

1039
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:27.480
of them on the phone. Again, I don't think they're lying,

1040
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:31.840
but again I think that we're too late and were there.

1041
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:37.159
What happened, right was not something that you know it

1042
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:39.880
was just staying there. It was passing through there, and

1043
01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:42.880
they saw it passing through, and it wouldn't be a

1044
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:46.320
whole lot of good for us to waste time and

1045
01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:47.760
resources doing that.

1046
01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:51.000
Makes sense, makes total sense, man, yep.

1047
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:54.440
And I hate to I hate to be that way.

1048
01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:58.920
I just you know, and I told you before what

1049
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:03.360
I was really looking for, And yeah, chasing things around

1050
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:09.679
that aren't there anymore, it's just wasting time, effort, resources

1051
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:10.760
everything else too.

1052
01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:15.519
You're you're wanting something that's more substantial. It's been in

1053
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:18.199
the same area for a long time, and it's like

1054
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:22.840
in that you said, like the term habituation, right.

1055
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:26.760
Something like that, And that's what it was when I

1056
01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:28.079
worked with Bob, when we saw it.

1057
01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:30.280
Oh, it makes sense. Okay.

1058
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.719
We dealt with that family for so long and they

1059
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:37.119
got to know us, and they got to experience us

1060
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:40.800
as well as we got to experience them. We left

1061
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:45.639
it stuff we traded, not traded, but I guess traded

1062
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.199
would be you know, we would leave stuff at a site,

1063
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:50.960
come back and there'll be stuff there. We found a

1064
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:56.519
baby doll woven out of grape vines. Again, I think

1065
01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:58.719
that's just in Pittsburgh. I'm still trying to work it

1066
01:04:58.719 --> 01:04:59.639
out to go see that.

1067
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:03.079
Yeah exactly. Yeah, yeah, you know.

1068
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:06.840
One of the weirdest things that we saw when I

1069
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:11.599
was with Bob were turkey feathers, large turkey feathers. We

1070
01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:16.079
would walk up a trail, drop something or do whatever,

1071
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:18.599
walk back down the trail and there would be a

1072
01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:21.800
turkey feather stuck upright in the mud, right in the

1073
01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:23.599
middle of the trail that we just walked out.

1074
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:28.000
That's wild, man. I've heard that from other witnesses a

1075
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:32.320
lot actually over the years. That's really interesting. Were there

1076
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:37.280
any other individuals that you were able to check out,

1077
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:43.239
like Lake Milton or anything? I thought not in Lake

1078
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:44.400
Milton nothing.

1079
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:50.119
Lake Milton was extremely populated the other day. That makes

1080
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:54.320
sense on and not by just a general public. There

1081
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:56.639
are a lot of groups and investigators that were at

1082
01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:58.119
Lake Milton Lake.

1083
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:01.360
Oh yeah, yeah, you could tell.

1084
01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:04.679
I saw it on Facebook that they a bunch of

1085
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:07.039
them were I was at, Like, no, and I think

1086
01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:11.800
I found tracks, well the pictures or whatever they were posting. No,

1087
01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:14.719
I didn't think there are tracks, but I wasn't.

1088
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:19.039
There, so and this is a great example of why then.

1089
01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:22.400
So this will address another question which a lot of

1090
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.119
listeners would be like, well, there are these public reports

1091
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:30.199
and then there's been nothing, and so it's not like

1092
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:33.599
it stopped. It's just at this point there's so much

1093
01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:37.480
attention on it. Is that so I'm giving Glenn information

1094
01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:40.320
and he's able to investigate these areas and not have

1095
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:45.079
to worry about cross contamination from people that are just like,

1096
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:48.159
let me check it out or other researchers, and it

1097
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:51.880
makes things much easier on Glenn, I would say.

1098
01:06:52.199 --> 01:06:54.400
And that's a common thing that.

1099
01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:55.519
Yeah.

1100
01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:57.639
I was talking to Mark de Werth the other day

1101
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:03.000
and he showed me I looked at his website or

1102
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:06.360
Facebook page and somebody got on there said, oh, look

1103
01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:09.079
the bigfoot are headed down as Salt Fork for OBC

1104
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:14.639
coming up in May. Then Mark even he even put

1105
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:17.480
on there, says the last place in the world a

1106
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:21.039
bigfoot wants to be is OBC Salt Work on OBC

1107
01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:24.679
weekend with all you guys outside chasing at it, howling

1108
01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:27.639
at it, knocking on trees and everything else. And we

1109
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.360
kind of laughed about it. It's like, could you imagine

1110
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.079
going up knock on a three outside your hotel room

1111
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:35.480
and I guarantee you're going to get six answers.

1112
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:38.840
You know you're going to get whoops all over the

1113
01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:42.000
whoop fest. Ever. Yeah, that's just how it is. But

1114
01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:43.840
a great, great event for sure.

1115
01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:46.960
Oh it is. And you laugh about it because he says,

1116
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:50.960
the last thing I need is advertisement, you know.

1117
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:53.880
Oh he doesn't. Yeah, it's everyone knows about it, but.

1118
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:55.840
You don't want to. And it's not that we're keeping

1119
01:07:55.920 --> 01:08:00.400
secrets and I hate that thought, but we are keeping

1120
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:05.519
secrets because we're trying to look into something that you know.

1121
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:11.800
We don't want people to tarnish not you know, or

1122
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:15.679
or cause any issues with what we're looking into. We

1123
01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:17.600
don't want there to be any other variables.

1124
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:21.760
It's been a learning experience, definitely for me because I've

1125
01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:26.520
never lived through anything like this, and uh yeah, it's

1126
01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:29.319
it's been a learning experience for sure. But so those

1127
01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:32.880
are kind of the public things right now and what's

1128
01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:36.439
the what's the plan for the future, Glenn? As you

1129
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:39.600
go along looking at these things and talking to people.

1130
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:42.960
We're gonna still go to a couple of places that

1131
01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:46.880
I think were you need to go look at after

1132
01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:51.560
the fact or not. I'm sorry, we need to go

1133
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:53.840
to some instead of A B and C.

1134
01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:57.000
We need to get to E and F right exactly,

1135
01:08:57.279 --> 01:08:59.720
and I don't want to tarnish n F until we

1136
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:03.880
get there and make sure that they're clear and you know,

1137
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:05.520
nothing that I have to worry about.

1138
01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:09.039
But also I'm waiting to hear from anything else because

1139
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:11.720
that will tell me how far ahead they are.

1140
01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:14.720
I think that's a great way to put it. It

1141
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:17.119
is a little cryptic, but it needs to be. And

1142
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:21.279
Glenn Atkins with the Ohio Squatch Project, is been awesome

1143
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:24.600
to finally get you on so that we could have

1144
01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:27.319
face to face talk about your background, talk about what's

1145
01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:31.560
public from your viewpoint, and just thank you so much

1146
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:35.079
for spending some time on the show. This will be

1147
01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:38.680
a special episode, and thank you so much for hanging

1148
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:39.479
out well.

1149
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.239
Thank you, it's been great working with you. You just

1150
01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:44.399
can't give me all these sightings and expect me to

1151
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:46.199
jump on the show too. I can't do both.

1152
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:51.159
I know it's it's it's unprecedented times, isn't it.

1153
01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:54.840
Let's get together this day. It's like, dude, you told

1154
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:57.560
me to go here. What do you want? What do

1155
01:09:57.600 --> 01:09:57.920
you want?

1156
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.600
Yeah? Good stuff, good stuff, good stuff. Thank you for

1157
01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:04.159
Chatt and glenns have you ever heard all the accounts

1158
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:08.680
of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon, and you think to yourself, Man,

1159
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:11.199
I would love to get out in those woods and

1160
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:16.279
experience it for myself. Well, guess what This year you can.

1161
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:19.880
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1162
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:24.760
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1163
01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:28.119
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1164
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:32.720
even better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll

1165
01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:35.439
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

1166
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:40.960
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

1167
01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:47.199
heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

1168
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:49.319
you just got to be there. We'll leave it that

1169
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more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

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check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

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documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

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not only go to the festival, but you can also

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sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

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outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the bigfoot spots

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to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

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up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

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for the next chapter in his documentary series which is

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searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

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It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

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To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

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dot com and listeners can use the code b SP

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like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two

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day pass for the price of a one day pass.

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So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

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that you guys can can get a little help with

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the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

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you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can

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talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

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many people last year and the year before. It is

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an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

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and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode,

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I want to say something directly to a very specific

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group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

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or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

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can explain, or if you're a National Park ranger or

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01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:41.600
forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're

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a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

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or if you're with the FBI, a federal agency, or

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working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

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to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

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search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

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01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:01.680
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

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01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:05.520
on a remote oil field or a trucker with government

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01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:09.239
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

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01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:12.880
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

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01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:16.439
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

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you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

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or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

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01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:27.319
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA,

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NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the

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public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even

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if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society

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01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:43.760
at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what

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you've been forced to carry alone. And you're not alone.

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You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

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01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:56.239
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

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of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

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us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

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01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.000
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

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tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure

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to subscribe to the channel on YouTube hit the bell

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And if you're listening to us on Spotify or Apple Podcast,

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please follow the show there and leave us a five

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star positive review because all that helps more people discover

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01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:28.880
the show. And remember, if you or someone you know

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has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear

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from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail

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dot com and let's start the conversation. If you haven't

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gotten a chance yet, check out our membership community over

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at www dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot com and that's

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free and members only episodes every week. Also, it's a

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place to connect with other people that are into the

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Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks again for

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01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:01.000
following along with the Bigfoot Society. Until next time, keep

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01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:03.920
your eyes open trust your gut and never stop asking

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what else might be out there, And see you in

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the woods.