He Saw a Gray Bigfoot in Ocean Shores—Then It Got Closer

0:00 You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey, please go to the CaringBridge link in the show notes.

0:42 Thank you. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Russell today. Russell is an individual I got connected to and He has been involved with the subject of Sasquatch. He's been searching for Sasquatch since around 2007. So welcome to the show, Russell. How are we doing today? Thank you. I'm doing great. Awesome. Great to hear. It's a great day. Man, 2007, believe it or not, but that is about almost 20 years ago. Yes. So I would imagine you have been through some interesting things. interesting things, but can you, can you take us back to, was there a certain, uh, instance or something that, that brought you into, uh, the Bigfoot subject to begin with?

1:30 What was the catalyst for you? Yes. Well, Bigfoot wasn't even in my head. And, uh, back in 2007, I was, I was, uh, taking a walk with a friend of mine and he asked me, did you hear about the family that saw the Sasquatch up here? And it, well, he probably said Bigfoot, you know, but, uh, And immediately I looked at him and I went, what? And then the next thing out of my mouth is, do you want to go looking for Sasquatch? And so that's what started it. And then we started going out. I went out two, three times a week. Sometimes he was with me, but a lot of times I was alone.

2:11 I went all over, you know, I live in Southwest Washington. So all over basically Southwest Washington, I was going. and looking for them, and we just figured, you know, they must be in the worst place possible, you know, a place that humans wouldn't go, so that's where we were going, you know, really difficult spots, and for four years, we found one possible print in four years, and it was in the bottom of a water pool. It was about, it was a good size. It was, you know, 16 to 18 inches. I'm not sure, but Uh, it couldn't cast it. You could, uh, I think I did take some video of it, but, uh, that was it in four years, nothing. And then, uh, and then I started thinking to myself that maybe because I was so confident that I could find him, you know, I thought anybody can, I can, because my brain's so weird. Uh, but, uh, I lost my confidence in that and started thinking that maybe this was beyond me. Maybe I'm not up to it.

3:16 And as soon as I had that thought, I had my first encounter, which is like within five miles of here on top of a hill. I was hiking up the hill. Wind was coming down from the hill and I smelled this awful smell. It smelled like something dead. And I expected to see a carcass, you know, but there was no carcass. And I kept hiking and hiking and there is still no carcass. And I knew, OK, this is not right. You know, when you smell a carcass, you come upon it pretty quickly, usually. And so then I got back. I got on top of a ridge where there was a clear cut, just a small patch of trees up there. And I was standing looking around the clear cut for something. And I heard three knocks over by where the small patch of trees were. So I, you know, thought to myself, well, OK, this is what you're here for. This is what you've been looking for. So, you know, I gathered myself and went over there. And when I got over there, I didn't see anything. But I did get a couple light whiffs of that dead thing.

4:31 And then I knew what happened. I mean, you know, in the interim, I had read all these things, you know, articles and I knew about the smell and all that. And so I rushed back home and Called my friend, who's also named Russell. And I called him and told him, I said, hey, I just had an incident. And I'm pretty sure it was an interaction and I think I can find him. I don't know why, but I regained my confidence all of a sudden. But I went on Google Earth. And to tell you the truth, at this time, at that time, I thought, you know, I put together these parameters. You know, every animal needs water. Every animal needs water. shelter, you know, these parameters I put together and I thought, okay, all these things have to be present and then they'll be there maybe, maybe. So, uh, so I, I looked on Google earth and, and to tell you the truth, I think I divined it more than anything. And I found a spot and I said, okay, we're going to go there and look. And when we got above that spot, uh, there was a landing down below where we're going to look, you know, where I thought they were close to that landing. But when we were on top of the ridge, before we went down, we stopped to just take a look at the valley.

5:44 And this is in the Wilpaw Hills. And there were these indentations, these deep indentations where there had been logs lifted, but there were no logs. And it was obvious that no equipment went in there and grabbed those logs. Well, these logs were heavy. They were waterlogged, old, you know, sitting there for a long time. That's what made the deep indentations. And then we thought we found a couple prints around them, And, uh, I came to the conclusion, it was too brushy to see down below, but I just came to the conclusion that they had tossed him off the, the ridge. Uh, so anyway, we went down to landing and, uh, I made a call and we heard some noise down below us, uh, movement. And, you know, I said, well, that could be an elk. It could be anything. It could be a bear, you know, who knows what it is. Uh, And that was about it for the first time. And then the second time, I believe we got Knox. I'd have to refer to my book for that because I've got a lot of these things, you know, I journal every day and stuff happens all the time. So I forget a lot of details. So that's the importance of keeping a journal, by the way.

7:00 I would say a hundred percent. I bring that up all the time on the show. If people are experiencing weird stuff at home or Sasquatch activity, You have to journal it because you will forget most of it. And when you reread it, you'll make connections. Wilpaw Hills, that's an area I'm not familiar with. Is that by Mount St. Helens or is it further west? No, it's further west. I live in Raymond, Washington, which is about 20 miles from the beach. And Wilpaw Hills are just up the valley from me. In fact, I'm actually in the valley right now. Oh, I got it. So yeah, that's, uh, that's almost like you're over by, um, yeah, yeah.

7:45 Long Beach. It's, it's North, Northeast of Long Beach. That's right. We're in the same, there's activity down there. Yep. Oh boy. Is there? Oh, I mean, I've gotten one report, uh, back a few years ago, but it sounds like you are pretty familiar with that, that area. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be interested in this report actually. Uh, so, Uh, I mean, if you know, do you know right now? Uh, yeah. So, uh, plug for the website, uh, bigfootsocietypodcast.com. I make a Google map of everyone I've ever talked to. And, uh, this particular, it's an episode 835. A guy was staying in a coastal house, looked out from an upstairs window.

8:28 He observed a large gray creature with long arms, massive shoulders. They made eye contact and then it turned and walked away into the forest. Uh, so, uh, Yeah, pretty cool one. But yeah, that's one you can actually listen to the gentleman share his experience in 835. So there you go, man. But wow, I've heard so many weird things from, I mean, ocean shores. I'm sure you're familiar with that. There's so many strange things over in ocean shores. I saw a gray one there. Really? In ocean shores. Oh, can you share that? Well, this will tell you somewhat our connection. We have a very strong connection. And they were seeing them in ocean shores. I think they're harvesting the deer there because this place is just packed with deer. You can't drive down the road without breaking for a deer sooner or later.

9:26 You know, that's how many deer there are right in ocean shores. And there are several people who had incidents, you know, they'd seen them and And one talked about one harvesting a deer on their property and that kind of thing. And so through another connection, I was asked to give a presentation there at Ocean Shores. And this was, I can tell you the exact date. It was January 18th, 2025. And I and my friend, Russell Wilson, not the quarterback, we took off early. from my house to go do that presentation. And so it was still dark out when we hit January 18th. It was still dark out when we hit Ocean Shores. Well, just past the exit for the casino, there was a Sasquatch standing right next to the road. Drove by and I asked my buddy, did you see that? He goes, no. And I went, oh, okay. Well, there's a truck right behind me. So I didn't stop and swing around or anything. We just kept going. And usually when you do that, they're gone anyway. So almost always, well, anytime I've done it. So we drove to McDonald's, had breakfast.

10:44 And then by then it's getting light. So I wanted to drive back and see if there was a statue there. you know, because it was right next to the casino exit. So I thought, well, you know, maybe they put a Sasquatch statue right there. Although it was really close to the road. Didn't make sense to me, but we drove back and there was no statue. And then my friend who was gazing into, you know, there's just like these thin trees right in a swamp on the other side. And he saw it. He saw it standing there. And, you know, in my interpretation, when we went by it, it was really dark. The hair. But he saw it when it got light and he said, yeah, it has gray hair. But he said it was kind of funny because he was hiding behind a little thin tree. And he said like his head's behind the tree, but his body's sticking out on both sides. So as soon as he saw it, it wasn't very far. It was like 200, 300 yards to the exit for the casino. So I whipped around real quick and we went back and he was gone. Wow.

11:47 And this just happened in 2025. Oh my goodness. You hear so much, so many things over the years. I mean, I talked to a gentleman named Lynn Gaspar and he had an experience out in ocean shores in 59. And then, I mean, I believe there's even a. Copalis beach has documented things that have happened up there, which is just, just North it. Do you think it's mainly the deer that are bringing them to this area? Or is there any other reason that there's so much activity out there? Well, it could be going for the shellfish too, but. Oh yeah. Cause I, I just heard a report, my next door neighbor, you know, relative or friend, I can't remember, but he told me this about two months ago that he was driving down near NEMA and went across the road.

12:37 And I just assume it's going, get a harvest you know of some sort they cross the road there to go over to to the bay and harvest clams or oysters that sort of thing and i found by the way i found uh uh oyster shell and clam shell sorry about that way up in the woods you know uh maybe people are taking them up there and eat them eating them you know but uh a couple of those i wonder about because it don't make sense, but they're way up there, you know? So I don't know. Maybe they got a bag.

13:17 That's, that's very, very interesting. You hear stuff like that stuff out in the woods. It just doesn't, doesn't belong. So you had the sighting in 25. Was there, I. Think in this field, I talked to people and I even experienced this myself. There's always a, a, a, pretty substantial thing that happens that really kicks you over into like way past a hundred percent yes they're real was that um is that a situation we've already talked about or is there one that comes to mind that really launched you. Yeah that was the the original family that we original uh that we ended up calling the becko clan and uh we kept going out there and heard knocks and then uh And one night we were out there and we decided to camp out. And so we set up our tents and I made a scream. And it was about five minutes later. Well, it was actually, yeah, it was quite a few minutes later because we had some pork and beans and hot dogs. And so I fixed them and we ate them. And that was right after that, that we got a scream back. And he was about, I'd say two miles away, but he filled that whole valley.

14:37 and he sustained his scream, you know, for like over 12 seconds. It was insane amount of time. And when I screamed, the coyote started up when he screamed, everything in the Valley went quiet, dead, quiet, uh, deep respect. Those coyotes shut really up really quick. Uh, so that that's Beko. And I really not sure where that family is now, but it was a family of five because, uh, we're trying to figure out, okay, we found him now. What would he, what do we do? You know? Well, that first night when he screamed back and, and then we detected him coming, coming closer. Uh, I asked my friend, what do you want to do? And he says, let's get the hell out of here. And so we, we just grabbed our gear and threw it in, didn't put anything away, you know, just stuffed it in our, my Subaru and, and took out of there. Uh, but then, uh, then I went back and, uh, we're persistent. We've set up a camp again. And that time he came into the camp. Uh, uh, I heard some pebbles hit my tent and, but I had a drink, drank some beer that night, which I don't do a lot of. So, you know, I thought, Oh, well, you know, if he hasn't killed us by now, he's not going to kill us.

15:57 So I just went to bed. And plus I've done a lot of studies. So I wasn't really afraid of them that much, you know, at that point in time. Uh, So that's what happened. And then my friend heard it walking around the tent and we got up and we couldn't find any prints or anything, but there was some puke. It had, it had a grubbed this, this stump nearby and, and, and puked. And I could tell it was the same, you know, it was a color, the same color as the, the, the, the stump, the puke was. So then we're still trying to figure out what to do. So I, I took out this little thing that I whirl around my head, you know, sounds like a UFO. I thought this might entertain him. Let's do this. And he says, nope, didn't work.

16:44 They scrambled. So I said, okay, well, we'll think of something else. And of course I'm a musician. So I thought, well, maybe I read about this woman who played a flute for one, you know, and actually didn't want her to stop, kept growling at her when she tried to stop, you know, And so I thought, well, I'll take my guitar out there and just play some music. And the first time I played my guitar and was putting it back in my Subaru, in the back of the Subaru, I heard what sounded like a 10-year-old girl right over my left shoulder go, oh. I mean, seriously, it gave me a huge chill. I woke up my buddy because he was sleeping in the chair. I told him, okay, now I know what to do. So we started playing for him.

17:30 And I took other musicians out to other Not to that group, but his daughter eventually came out with us. And she saw, I think she saw one out there part the brush. I don't know if she saw it or not, but she saw the brush part. And I saw a young, I think I saw the one that said, oh, peeking out from behind a tree real quick. And so eventually I started a smoky fire and it went right down into where they were standing. And they got upset and he started whistling and the boys surrounded us. There were two boys, him and the youngest was the, was the girl and the mom. And they always stayed on one side and the male and the two boys stayed on the other side. But anyway, they, they went up and in the, you know, perches above us and, and, and called out sort of like a coyote call. And then he pushed down a tree and I thought, Oh, okay, well, you know, maybe they're not happy with that fire. And so from then on, uh, for a long time, I didn't start any fires when I went out. Uh, but anyway, uh, so that I, we didn't go back there for like 13 months, but in the interim, I thought, well, I found that one. Maybe I can find some more. So I started going other places, including the Olympics, uh, And it seemed like everywhere I went, I got interaction. They

19:03 would come and they would call. And it was just crazy. I found like six families in six months, you know. So that's fun. That is fantastic. Were you, were you using your guitar at all of the different situations? Yeah. I always play my guitar and I play my drum too. Now I got an elk drum and they like it. I know they like it because they've, let me know, you know, by calling right after I shut down, you know, so they liked the elk drum as well. So I do that first usually. And then I play the guitar. Sometimes I pick the drum up again. So, uh, yeah, I do those two things everywhere I go. It's a tradition.

19:46 It's my gift to them because I know they like it. Uh, One time, in fact, another clan, one of those that I found in the six months, which isn't that far away from here, but in a different location. Anyway, it might not even be in this county. It might be just outside this county. But anyway, I brought a couple of up there that were you know she was a singer he was a guitar player and they did a song so beautifully and we're up there and we hear this uh baby scream in delight enjoyed it so much that she just had to scream that was kind of cool and they were very close you know these i mean they're close enough uh where we can hear them talk we can hear them talking to each other but i've never been able to get a good recording i don't i don't really have that good of recording equipment But I want to tell you how I turned from a researcher to just a friend.

20:47 I would love that. Yeah. Because for the first two years, you know, that's what I was doing. I was trying to analyze and putting cameras out and, you know, taking material to make casts and stuff like that. But there was this one hike. that I'd go on and it was, you know, pretty grueling hike. And at the top of the peak, there is a stump and a big rock sitting on top of the stump. And when I saw it, I just thought, oh, that Sasquatch did that. You know, I just had a feeling. And so I thought, well, I'll pick up a rock and put it next to it. You know, that's represents me.

21:27 So I put the rock on top and I go up there the next time and my rock's off. I put another rock on next time. Rocks off. Okay. This time I'm going to put a big rock. One that the wind won't blow off. Cause that's what, you know, I thought maybe the wind was blowing it off. So I put a big rock up and that rock completely disappeared. It wasn't anywhere to be found. And then I heard this, it sounded like a man, but I, he was pleading with me. I could tell it was a plead, you know, and, and it touched me and I thought, Oh, this rock is important. And I thought, I think this rock is a memorial. What made me think that? But that's what I thought. I took my hat off. I gave it respects.

22:14 And then the next time out, they left me this heart. That's incredible. It does look like a heart. Doesn't it? Wow. That's the first thing I thought before you said that, man. Yeah. So I want to tell you something about this heart, though. This is crazy. So I take this heart home. And I think of another item that I found a few years before. I knew it was important, but I didn't know why. I hid it in my roll top desk and it sat in there for years. And it's this. I know it doesn't look like much, but it actually has a perfect carving of a flying saucer on it. And you might be able to see there's like a glowing figure there. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, it's surrounded. So...

23:01 I took these two things, items, when I got home and I meditated with them. And I had a zero gravity chair leaning up against my wall. And my cat jumped up on the bed when I was like five minutes into meditation. And something was above me. I saw it. You know, I had my eyes closed, but I could still see it, which is weird. But it's like a black blob. and flew and hit the wall and knocked over my zero gravity chair. My cat took off. I jumped out of bed. I had an adrenaline rush. I said, don't you ever scare my cat again or else. I don't know what I was going to do. But anyway, that was the first time I meditated with it. But after that, they charged this thing up with something. I don't know, but for like 13 or 14 months after that, In the morning, like it'd still be dark out, I'm an early riser, and I'd reach for my glasses, and these blue bolts would come off and touch my glasses before I got to them. Very crazy. And that slowly wore out. It was like they had a battery. It was charged. Now it's not, but about last year, I think it cracked, made a loud crack. I take all these things to bed, see, so I meditate with them and they just stay in bed with me. But, you know, right next to my head, this thing, I think it was this one. Anyway, crack.

24:32 Wow. Real crack. So, yeah, that's just one incident. And this whole thing just turned metaphysical. Once I once I engaged with them as a friend, I just opened myself up and I said, hey, what do you have to show me? You know, what can you show me? When you said you open yourself up and you're saying that, are you saying that verbally out loud or is this like an internal conversation? Internal. And in fact, I'll tell you a story that just happened about three weeks ago. I got a bunch of feathers, you know, that I've received for as gifts. And I was looking at them, gazing at them. And I thought, geez, it's been quite a while since I've gotten a feather for a gift. You know, I know they haven't forgotten about me, but I haven't gotten a feather for a gift for quite a while. I love getting them for gifts.

25:23 You know, it's kind of cool. So the next morning I'm hiking and this is on YouTube, by the way. I put this on YouTube. I got the short version. I'm going to put a longer version on there. But anyway, I'm walking down the road and there's a washed out area, real steep incline, you know, washed out. But there's a log sitting there that's horizontal. It's like, that doesn't make sense. But when I got closer, I saw that it was being held up by four sticks. And in the top was my feather. Oh, man. Wow. That's absolutely incredible, Russell. So it sounds like most of this time it's been you and other Russell.

26:09 And then at times you're bringing in people. No, that hasn't really worked. I took four people out the other night. They shut down. They make your choice. They read your energy. They decide what to do. I don't think they wanted that. It was an experiment. I didn't know, you know, well, I didn't know two of the people. One of them, I guess I met when he was a kid. He remembered me, but I went camping with him and another buddy at one time, but I couldn't remember him, but he was there. I found when you go out and trying to have connection You have other people with you. It's very important to do your homework before you bring people into these areas because you want to make sure they have the right intention. You have the wrong person come in that could really mess up the whole thing for a long time, really.

27:08 I asked for guidance when I found that feather. When I ask for guidance, usually I don't get any, you know. But on that case, I got up to the stop sign. I was going to turn left. And something told me, oh, you got to turn right. Got you. Go this way. And then I got the thought, oh, I haven't been to Smith Creek for quite some time. So I'm going to hike up Smith Creek, you know. And that's what happened. And I don't mind mentioning these places because you're not going to find them. You don't find them. That was the first lesson. Four years of nothing. You know, that was, hey, you don't find us. We find you when it's time. And to them, I think time is kind of somewhat nonlinear, to tell you the truth, from some of the things I've gone through.

27:55 Has there been a certain experience that's led you to believe that? Oh, yeah. You mean time nonlinear? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This is not exactly about time, but I've had time dilation. Like I watched a football game in 17 minutes once. You know, crazy. I watched Jupiter rise above the horizon and go down and come up three times. One time. Out in my kitchen, right over here. So that would be time manipulation. And I'm not sure exactly how they do these things, of course.

28:39 But one time I was hiking up there in the Wilpaw Hills. And I was on this ridge and I heard a tree go down on another ridge and I knew, oh, that's my teacher. I have one I call teacher. That's the one that left me the feather, by the way. He and his daughter, his daughter's name is Candace. I named her Candace. Doesn't have a mate. She died tragically. But anyway, so I knew he wanted me up there. So it was too far to go that day. So I waited until the next day and I hiked up there and About that time, you know, I was asking for a print because I hadn't seen a print for a while. You just kind of like to see these things once in a while, you know. And in Frozen, it was Frozen at that time. And in Frozen Leaves, there were three prints. That's also in my book, by the way, that picture of one of them. And so then I get up on the ridge and I'm looking around.

29:35 I wonder why he wanted me up here. I don't see the tree that's pushed down, of course. I've only found those very rarely. I'm looking around. I see these three trees standing, mature, kind of standing alone. And then there's this kind of leaner that goes across that way. But on one of the trees was this symbol. weird symbol, like someone had taken a hatchet and chipped out four or five across and five or six down, right? And then underneath it looked like an elk horn. Two of the horns had made a little like round symbol thing, sort of, you know, like that, just a curve. And I thought, wow. And it's in a spot, you know, where Like a human can't just go over there and chip it because it's like off the ground 15 feet. And, you know, elk didn't do that. You know, I just couldn't get there. So I took a picture of it, of course. And I was going to go visit my friend Joe Hauser. He owns the Montana Vortex.

30:47 Right. And so really soon after. So I thought, OK, I'm going to show it to him because he's an animal expert. Maybe there's some weird animal out there that does this stuff. I didn't think so. But, you know, I just thought it would be fun to show it to him and see what his opinion would be. So just a couple of days before I took off for Montana, I checked my camera to see that picture again. It wasn't there. I went, what? How is that picture not there? So I thought, well, I know where the tree is. I'll just go up there and take another picture. And so I hiked back up there and all three of those trees, including the leaner, were gone. Like they never existed. There was no stump. Nobody had cut them. And that place, that was before it was logged. You know, since then it's been logged. But anyway, that was the Mandela effect.

31:50 It's fascinating. And the other thing that happened during that time is there used to be, I remember it so well, which is weird, but I remember this, this hike I used to go on, you know, and it was on a, on a power line, not there anymore. So that's, that, that, that's just one of the weird things they've shown me. They got lots of these powers. And the reason why I wanted me up on that ridge, I'm sure is because there's like some sort of demarcation line for a vortex field or something like that there. Because one day I was hiking. I was hiking on a kind of a parallel road. You know, I wasn't on that road.

32:31 I was on a parallel road. And all of a sudden, my steps felt like I was walking through water for about three steps. And then it went away. And I've been through that area several times, but never experienced that again. But, yeah. Okay. So do you think– has there been a time where– you have experienced, um, most people in the community would say like a portal or, or anything like that in the same area. Yeah. Well, no, not in the same area. No, this happened to me down in Oregon. Here's another story for you. Okay. So I went down to, uh, cottage Grove to watch. Yeah.

33:16 You know, right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's, it's famous for this, but anyway, I went down there to, uh, uh, kind of, I, partook in the, in the, uh, the podcast a little bit, you know, uh, so I guess I'm on it, but I never watched it. But anyway, uh, right after it was about noon and I took off for Florence, Oregon, which is due West on the, on the coast. And, but, uh, there were no signs, you know, so I, I, I didn't know, you know, in my, my map, it didn't show any of the roads on my map. So I just thought, Oh, well, I'll just go West. You know, I'll just keep going West. I'll, I'll run into a highway or something sooner or later. Right.

33:57 this is what I would call a country road. It was almost a highway, but not, but I only saw like two cars in 45 minutes driving on it. So I'm driving along and this is funny because Joe Houser had, he had posted a picture of a grizzly and her cubs that I, I assume he took. And I thought, wow, that's cool. I haven't seen a bear for a while. So I had that in my head, right? I come around a corner and there's a black bear coming towards me, right? And I hit my brakes because I don't want to hit it. I don't know what it's going to do, you know? And so I start hitting my brakes and it cut right in front of me, leaped. And it was like, there was an invisible door there just disappeared. Really?

34:42 And, and, and midair. Yeah. Yeah. Man. Yeah. And there was nothing on the slope and I couldn't see a, uh, you know, like a portal. I really couldn't see anything there. So I stopped and, uh, just looked at it for about five minutes thinking, what, how did they do that? Did they train a bear or did they like maybe rerun, uh, uh, some sort of clip from a time before when a bear did that, you know, and, you know, that's what was going through my head. But since then, and in fact, in Rob Alley's, one of his books, I read about, uh, three Native Americans. I believe they're Native Americans. Uh, and they were up there and, canada or alaska and they're tooling along in a boat and they see this dude walking along the shoreline that you know they're thinking what's that guy doing over there that doesn't make sense you know there's nobody on that island there's nothing to see or harvest on that island maybe maybe he got stuck you know maybe his boat's broken down or something he's just walking along the shore and so they start tooling over that way and when they get closer they realize oh that's a sasquatch They just keep going because they're on the water, you know, and he's on the shore. So they're going to get a good close look. When they get close enough, all three of these guys said the same thing. He morphed into an otter and just kept walking.

36:06 Oh, no way. Yeah, totally. Yeah. So now I believe that what I witnessed was a shape-shifting Sasquatch that looked really real. It really did. I mean, it ran right in front of my car. It was just so close, you know. Wow. Dude, that is wild. Just for me, so you were in Cottage Grove to record a podcast. You weren't out there looking in the woods because there's a lot of weird stuff that goes on. I just went there to watch a podcast, but I ended up kind of in it a little bit. But, yeah. Oh, gotcha. Was that Tobe Johnson back in the day? Yep. Yeah, yeah. He had some really– His old podcast was great. You can still find it on YouTube. It's good stuff. He's a great guy.

36:55 My goodness. So you've mentioned that it sounds like the main Sasquatch that you connect with is you call teacher. What do you think the most important thing you've been taught over the years is? I don't know. Boy, that's a tough question. I think basically it's I can feel their compassion and their love, you know, they've shown nothing but respect to me. And so I appreciate that greatly. But I want to make one more mention about what I found out later. Yes. After that portal thing. So at the time I was reading this book called the golden vortex, which I had, which Joe had given me at, at the, when I left, He gave me that and another book called 216. It was actually a pamphlet. And they're both authored by this guy named Nick Nelson. And I was reading it at the time. And when that happened, I thought maybe I was on a demarcation line for one of these regional vortexes that he had charted in his book. So I looked. Yes, I was on a regional vortex where the center is between Klamath Falls and And Crater Lake.

38:18 Oh, snap. It stretches way down to California. Well, Nick Nelson had a story about that Vortex, too, that demarcation line. He was going to Reno with a friend, and they had just left a restaurant and checked his watch, you know, how much time, you know, because they're going all the way to Reno from Bellingham or wherever he lived back then. And so they left, and suddenly they're 100 miles down the road. And he pulls over and asks his buddy, you know, what just happened? And his buddy goes, I'm not sure. Did we pass this? Did we pass that? Nope. Wow. Well, that happened on the same demarcation line, but it was in California. It was way down by Pleasantville. And mine happened, you know, actually, I think I was a little northwest of Cottage Grove at the time.

39:16 So very interesting. So I'm not familiar with that term myself. Is it is this close to like when people talk about ley lines or is completely different? Yeah, well, ley lines are, I think, are global and and vortexes create their own ley lines but they're circular. Around them okay yeah interesting yeah they're. Circular and they they rotate you know the one in in montana vortex rotates counterclockwise a lot of people can feel it uh i couldn't feel it by the way when i went there we went out at night and doors were opening and shutting.

39:56 And and uh like you could hear the sound of doors opening and shutting or oh yeah one i. Saw i was actually he went to bed i was about to go to bed he allowed me to tent in a vortex he's never done that before since so anyway i was in in you know the the guests what were the you know the the people that visit, you know, I'm, I'm in there, uh, getting, doing my business and the door opens and closes. I don't know if they're coming or going. So I just said, hello, you know, but, uh, yeah. Yeah. I recorded that night too. And there was all kinds of noises and doors closing and opening and stuff. But, uh, that highway is so distracting that I just, I dumped it, you know, I mean, who wants to just hear that?

40:46 Interesting. You brought up the Klamath Crater Lake area. And that's an area of Oregon I haven't been to yet. But the stuff that I get from that area is absolutely intense. Prospect, Union Creek, there's a lot of wild stuff that happens over there. And then I just had a conversation about ongoing stuff in, I can say, the Klamath region. And so you're saying that that's a pretty charged up area. Yeah, there's actually more than one vortex there. Uh, Nick's Nick's a book. Yeah. He mentions another vortex in the area, but it's underwater now because they put a dam in.

41:26 So the center of that is, is in water, but I was led to the center of a vortex by Sasquatch up in, in the Olympics. It took them two years to get me there. You know, I just followed tree breaks breaks and, you know, I just followed him and followed him. And then finally, after two years. I got way up there, and I saw a tree with a bunch of rakes, and I thought, oh, this might be the place. So I set up my tent, and this was about noon. And they came, and they got so excited. They were yelling and making all kinds of noise, and I thought, wow. I mean, that's crazy because, first of all, it's midday, and there was a road crew working on the forest road like 200 yards away from my site where I was camped. And so I thought they're on their lunch break, all their equipment shut down.

42:18 I know they can hear them. I just wonder what they thought. Oh my goodness. So, so what you're at times, you're finding these vortexes out in the woods and, and when, when you get into the middle of these areas, you're then having encounters or you're having visual encounters or, or there's. Vortex, nothing happens, but they got into the middle of that reason. And the reason is okay. I didn't know we were going to talk about this, but I had it just in case. The reason is, so the Montana Vortex is over here. Oh, boy. All right. I'm going to hold this up. Montana Vortex is over here, you know, off that way.

43:02 Oh, I think it's upside down, actually. Oh, it was 441 miles to this, to the point where, well, actually, yeah, to the Olympics. Vortex, right? 441 was a very important number for me because I'd had the number 327 for a long time. I didn't know why. And then I started looking at this. I was compelled to look on Google Earth and take measurements and angles and stuff. You know, who does that? But I was. And I figured out that my house... is 57 miles from the center of the Olympic vortex. But it's at an angle of 114 degrees from the Montana vortex. 57 plus 57 is 114.

43:53 What is 57? It's the radius of a 360-degree circle. Well, in this case, we're talking 360 miles, right? So, yeah. And it cuts... it just cut 1.8 miles South of, of the center of the Seattle vortex and 57 miles from it. As charted by Nick Nelson, but I think he was off by 1.8 miles. I think it was right online. And the reason why I say that is just, this happened just the other day. I was, I was inspired.

44:35 I thought, you know, because I, at the time when this happened, I didn't have a, you know, any kind of way to, to do this. So I drew two circles around the Seattle vortex and the Olympic vortex. Can you put it a little bit higher? Sorry. Oh, just a little bit higher up. Perfect. And then what happened is, is it formed the Vesca Pisces, you know, which is the, just the oldest symbol you can, you can find on, on earth. And if you keep making circles, of course you make the flower of life and then you can make any configuration from that. So, uh, when I discovered that and I get these buzzes from them, you know, like when they're close, uh, they'll, they'll buzz me.

45:28 It's from Sasquatch. It's a different than a chill. Yeah. It's a buzz. And, uh, when I discovered that the other day, I got a buzz. Can you, that's really, that's really fascinating. So, um, is that, can you describe what that feels like or is it a certain part of, of you? It's my whole body. My hair will stand up. Uh, people have seen my hair stand up when they've been cloaked and close. I've shown it to them, you know, uh, on camps, you know, on camp outs, you know, I've gotten a couple of them, uh, from the people from ocean shores. Uh, when I, a couple of those and, and one time someone was leaving, um, And she was getting ready to leave. And I walked by her pickup truck as she's loading it. And I got that buzz.

46:14 And I told her, oh, they're right here. They're right here. They're right here. They're sticking with you. And I went up to my car. I got something. And when I came back, it happened again. I showed everybody the hair standing up on my arms and my legs. So, yeah. So I think they send it to me. I don't think I just detect them that way. Because I know I've been close to them. And I haven't felt that, you know. Gotcha. And so just to make sure I'm on the right path. So vortex and portal, not necessarily the same thing. Well, the portals are on the demarcation lines of the vortex. See, like I showed you that circle, my house is sitting right on one of those circles. And that's a demarcation line.

47:01 So my house is charged. All kinds of stuff happens here. And it turns out, It turns out, I think, well, I'm sure of it. They guided me to my house. I had two offers to buy this house. And I've lived here for 41 years. Two offers to buy this house from two people that didn't know each other. And that's the only time that's happened. Wow. Was that just recently or? That was 41 years ago. Oh, 41 years ago. Okay. Interesting. Okay. My goodness. The whole thing. Bigfoot and portals thing. It's a thing that comes up in, it's come up a few times. Skinwalker ranch. They said they saw one come through one. There's the Dr. Matthew Johnson story about Oregon somewhere. That's a fascinating account. And then there's a BFRO. Well, there's an individual that was on a BFRO expedition and they wrote down the account of an individual that had a portal experience with a Sasquatch on Saddle Blanket Mountain out in Oak Ridge, Oregon.

48:11 So it comes up. It comes up at times, and it's very, very interesting. I want to make sure– I know you have a list of all different things that you've written down. Are there anything on that list that you would want to make sure that you share? Because I could probably just ask you questions all day long, but I know you've got some important information. I've got 36 things on this list. Let's look right here. So we covered shapeshifting. Oh, numerous cloaking. So out hiking, you know, one day, and I believe this was my teacher as well. He's shown me most of his things. That's why I call him teacher. And I heard something.

48:55 I was hiking along and I heard something big coming out of the brush. And I thought I spooked an elk, you know, or maybe a bear. But anyway, before I even got my head turned that far, it went by me. But I didn't see anything. but I felt the pressure on my face change. Big, massive. And then total silence. I stood there for two minutes, you know, to see if I could hear anything or if he'd move or anything else would happen. Nothing happened. So I just went ahead on my hike. Wow. That is some wild stuff. I mean, it's... You're right.

49:39 Once you are at the point where, and it sounded like for you, it was, I just want to be friends. You open yourself up. I mean, that's when, that's when you start experiencing stuff. Uh, it's, it's not when you're out there like, Hey, let's get, let's get the sounds recorded. Let's get the tracks recorded. That's you're not going to, you're not going to have it. Yeah. I don't know why. Well, you don't go into someone's house without being invited, you know? Sure. you ring the door, you knock on the door and then if they like it, they'll invite you in, you know, uh, same, same thing with them. They, they assess everybody. They, they can read your power or, you know, everybody has this energy. They can read your energy field and, and make a determination from that. I think is part of it. Uh, I'm not sure. I don't, you know, I don't know all these things, but, uh, that's just kind of a guess. Uh, Oh, yeah, there's something else I see. Telekinesis, yeah. So one time I'm hiking out there, dead quiet, no wind, and I come to this pond, and it just starts to get turbulent.

50:53 Kind of wild. So then a few days later, I go back out there again, and there was a tree pushed down right where I had that experience. So it was, yeah, it was us. You know, that's basically what they were saying. Okay. I've also had one talk to me from behind a bush one time. That one I call CC. He's crazy. But that stands for Cedar Crow. But anyway, yeah, I went hiking. This was up in Wainuichi. And I started hiking from the dam. And I thought I heard a voice.

51:33 And I stopped and turned around and looked. And that's crazy. Maybe it was just in my head or whatever. I don't know. But glitch, you know. So I went hiking and I didn't come back for like two and a half hours. And when I came back by that same bush, he talked to me again. It was just really low, you know, like that. Very low voice. And so I stopped. And at that time, this is early on. You know, I just figured out they were there and I didn't know. that there were more than one family there. I mean, there's like three families and a loner, you know, spread out.

52:15 And they like to move from valley to valley. That's what I've discovered. Because I couldn't find them in one valley, so I go to the next valley. Then I go to the next valley, and there they are, you know, all the way over to Lake Cushman staircase. So they're spread out. But they kind of travel together. But anyway, so I'm walking by. that Bush and I just put a heart up on my hand up on my heart. And I said, you know, I, I don't want to, I don't want to push myself on you guys. And I don't want to, I don't want to disturb you. I just thought maybe we'd be friends. And he took it to heart. CC is a very good friend of mine.

52:55 Very good friends. So what were some things then that happened that, that made you realize that, okay, I asked him, let's, let's be friends. And he's definitely taken me up on that. Oh, well, uh, okay. Well, the next thing that happened and she said, I wish I'd looked out the window, but I was in my tent, uh, near the lake, uh, actually, no, this was when I, when I knew G gotcha. Thank you. And, uh, I thought that I was going to, it was early in the season, you know, it was early April and the, the, The weather was really great. It was really warm. But it was also weekday. And I thought, well, nobody's going to come. I got it all to myself. I'm finally going to camp next to the lake because I usually don't because there's people, too many people, you know. Well, I was wrong. These three girls come and they camp down from me on the road and I can actually see their tents from my place, you know, from where I'm at. And then another guy comes and he camps beyond them. And so I just thought, oh, well, nothing's going to happen tonight, but I'll do my usual. I'll play my guitar. And in fact, I got some applause from the girls after I sang that song. But anyway, yeah.

54:22 So then I go to bed. I'm laying in my tent. And I hear this male way up on a ridgeline, you know, sounding like a juvenile. doing this chant, this four part chant. It's like he was like animals, but he was changing his, you know, each animal with each verbalization. So it was one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four. Well, that's most of my songs are, you know, four, four times. So it made sense. Right. Anyway. And I'm laughing about it because I'm thinking, God, I know those girls can hear that. I just wonder if they, have any idea what that is. And then next thing I know, he's making a beeline at my tent, coming right down off the ridge, coming in. Oh, my gosh. And I wasn't prepared for that, you know. I actually, at that time, yeah, that was actually, at that time, I didn't know that that clam knew me, you know. I knew one clam knew, but I didn't know that clam knew, but I figured out that was CC. So it must have been later that that that he talked to me from behind the bush, now that I think about it. But anyway, he came down, and I could, you know, hear him shuffling. He was shuffling when he got into my campsite and doing the chant, and he came around my Subaru, and I know he checked to see if I had my window open, my flap open on my tent is what I figured. And

55:54 then he went back around the car or came right at my tent somewhere. I don't really remember whether he went around my car or not, but I think he did. And the first thing I thought was he went and checked to see if those girls were still up too. So, and they were all in their tents. So then he came right at my tent and I thought he was going to come right in front of my window. So I'm staring out my window, you know, and there was a blue, like the trees were blue from the full moon. It was just an awesome night, man. Unbelievable night. And he went behind my tent and there was hardly any room to go behind my tent. It was sucked up against a tree. But he went behind my tent, so I didn't even see his shadow. I just heard him go behind my tent. And I'm staring out the window.

56:41 But if I'd looked out the window earlier when he, you know, checked from behind the Subaru, I would have seen him from like 15 feet away. It's unfortunate that I didn't get up and look because I wished I had now. But anyway, then he went all the way back up the ridge chanting that. An unbelievable voice. amount of endurance you know that it would take for a human couldn't do it that's for sure went all the way back up on that ridge because those I mean those hills there are very steep around Wainuichi. Yeah I've heard that yeah it is a it's a different ballgame and you have um what's that there's a one pass out there there's always a ton of activity um.

57:28 Snow calm no snow qualmy. Oh yeah it's Yeah, that's actually north of Seattle or east of Seattle, sort of northeast of Seattle, I think. Let me look real quick. Maybe you're thinking Skokomish, which is also very active. That might be it. Yeah, that's actually northwest of Shelton. And that is very active. And yes, they're there. They come there periodically. You know, they move around. And I think for resources, you know, Uh, yeah. Uh, there's something else I wanted to talk about that too, that same clan. So I named them all up there. Well, the ones that interact with me anyway, there's Jacques and Peter and CC, and then there's a young one, Alice.

58:18 One night I'm playing the guitar and first I play the drum and I, I put the drumstick, you know, I got a little thing that you put the drumstick so it doesn't fall out readily. And then I, I leaned it up against the cedar, this fallen cedar that was there. And I told him, I sent him a message. I'm not going to open my eyes. And I got rock clacks that night too. But anyway, I said, I'm just going to sit here and play my guitar. And I hear someone coming over that, that laid down tree. And then when it comes time to go, you know, I grab my guitar and put it away in the chair and go over and grab my drum and check for the drumstick, make sure I got it. It's not there.

59:04 So I turned on a flashlight and started looking for it. It was nowhere to be found. I couldn't find it. So then I thought, well, okay, it's dark. Maybe it fell somewhere. I don't know. I'll come back early in the morning. So as soon as it got started getting light out, I booked it over there. You know, no tourists or anybody are going to find it first. So I went over there and looked and it was gone. And I believe that was Alice that took my drumstick. I don't know why I have that feeling, but I named her Alice because she's in Wonderland. That's awesome. Um, I would say, Oh, maybe it's half and half. A lot of people I talk to, they actually have brought up that when they start to have these conversations that the Sasquatch, it's usually something to the effect of, um, either they want to share their name or they ask what their name is. Uh, and then the Sasquatch will share their name.

1:00:03 Has that ever happened to you or. Is it where you are regularly naming them? Yeah. Possibly from behind the bush you did, but yeah, no, I got a lot of names for them and I've never heard that. I'd like to know. It would be cool to know some of their names. Yeah. That's really interesting. Do you have any thoughts about, um, telepathy or in the community, it's usually called mind speak or anything like that. I've heard just a little bit of it. You know, I remember once I was hiking somewhere and for some reason I felt uncomfortable there, you know? And so I thought, am I okay? We're watching over you. You know, I got something similar like that. I'm paraphrasing. I can't exactly remember, but I, you know, but I got this, this voice.

1:00:53 But I've had them visit me in dreams. This happened last year, 2025, in July, I think. We went, might have been June. Anyway, doesn't matter. We went up to, on Forest Road near Rainier. And I, Russell was with me that time, my friend Russell. And we'd set up camp. It was on a Saturday. So, you know, those mountains, all the tourists and stuff come up there, you know. but it was before anybody had gotten up there. Uh, it was about a quarter to noon and this, we started hearing some Sasquatch call and then this female matriarch started to call and it was operatic, man. It was crazy.

1:01:40 I didn't have any of my recording gear turned on yet. And she just went off for about, again, for like 12 or 13 seconds doing this wild call. And, uh, I turned to look at Russell and we just looked at each other and went, wow, never heard anything like that. It's my favorite call of all time. So that happened that night. They did come into the camp site. I had to get up and pee in the middle of the night. So I got up and I'm peeing. Russell doesn't sleep very well. So he heard me get up and he heard me get back in. And then he heard me start snoring. And he said, Ben, someone started playing with a zipper on your tent, rolling the zipper up and down. But also, also we had, we had some, uh, jalapeno, uh, Cheetos, uh, hot ones. Anyway, I don't know if they're jalapeno or what, but anyway, they're Cheetos, they're hot ones. And, and the bag was just barely touched, you know, and it was open and we'd left it out by accident actually, you know, because, They stopped taking my gifts, so I just figured they must just like the guitar, you know. But anyway, the next morning the bag was empty. And then a couple days later, a couple nights later, I had a dream.

1:03:05 I was standing on a road up there, and she, the matriarch, came walking down a spur. And when she was approaching, I went, hello. Hello. And she just kind of looked at me, but hardly at all. It was just kind of a quick glance. Walked right by me, like I could reach out and touch her. Walked right by me. And when she went by, I went, I love you. And then she walked into the woods. And that was a visit. I know that was a visit. I've had even shared dreams of them. So they come to you in dreams. What's a shared dream? That's a new one for me.

1:03:46 Okay, well, that's where you have it. And someone else has the exact same dream. Oh, sure. This happened, but I didn't even know this woman, which is weird. But it was her friend that told me my friend had the same dream. And it was so crazy. You know, you know, it's not, you know, a dream. It's a visitation. And in that case, I was camping out and they came. And this is CC for you. but Jacques and Peter came and they started calling to me very softly. I'm actually in a regular camp ground, but there's like three loops and I'm in one loop and there were, there was a couple in another loop, but I didn't know if they were still there or not. Right.

1:04:32 And they start calling to me and I'm standing there facing them, but you know, they're like a hundred yards away and it's dark and I couldn't see them, but it was kind of cool. It was right after I, well, actually I was playing my guitar. and took a break and that's when they started calling. So I put my guitar down and turn and face them. And then CC joins them. And then it gets really hyped up. It got crazy. And I got kind of a little bit of adrenaline rush, you know, it was really extreme. I have gotten very few of those, but, uh, I sent him a message. I said, wow. I said, that was kind of over the top. It just kind of, you know, got to me a little bit. I was, uh, And so that night I'm in my tent and I feel these hands coming right through the tent and huge hands going under me and picking me up.

1:05:26 Right. And of course, I get scared. I mean, I just got this huge adrenaline rush and I'm I'm I got paralysis, sleep paralysis, so I can't move. And and I hear this voice and it goes, Russell, calm down. And I felt the fear drain. Down and out. I disappeared at my toes. Just the weirdest feeling. But then it was gone. I was all calm. They picked me up and we faced each other. We had a conversation and then I talked out loud. You know, we had a telepathic conversation and then I talked out loud and I said, gee, I feel so lucky to have you as a friend, you know. And then he got so happy. He started whining like a puppy dog.

1:06:16 And licking my face. And at the time I'm just laughing because it just seems so funny, you know, to me. And then as licking my face, I wake up and I go, wow, that was weird. And then three of them about 50 yards away, start, start, uh, singing kind of, you know, with these animals sounds really cool sounds, mostly owl, you know? Uh, but I think there was some crow there and, you know, it was, it was, it was awesome. And then later I'm talking to a lady and I told her that story and she says, my friend had that same dream where she was, he whined like a puppy dog and was licking her face.

1:07:03 Oh, no way. That's wild. So that's a shared dream. Wow. Yeah. That is incredible. I never met that lady, but I guess she lives up in, you know, like squim or, port angeles. Somewhere okay sure sure sure uh man wild wild so there's a thought i i wanted to address just real quick to the side so because your your whole journey over the last almost 20 years is fascinating but it sounds like you really were learning as you went along like you didn't have a mentor in the beginning you're you're just learning so Your story is like very close to like Tom Cantrell where like for the longest time, he didn't know anyone else. Like you had Russell, but you didn't have like a whole community behind you. You were just figuring it out yourself, right?

1:07:53 Well, yeah, I kind of went away from the community. You know, I reported my very first interaction and BFRO wanted to come down and get involved. And for some reason I thought, no, I'm not supposed to do that. And so I told him, no, thanks. And so this is one, you know, I, I will probably listen to our conversation a few times. Uh, there's a lot to take away from this. One of the main things I'm telling you, you are traveling all over the Pacific Northwest and having experiences. I can't really think of someone, anyone else that's that's traveled, like you're traveling all over the place.

1:08:34 Um, which is over 30 areas. I've had interactions. 30 areas. Oh, my goodness. Well, I'm not even sure how many. I would imagine. So, you know, let's talk. Your book is Sasquatch Shaman of the Woods. Yes. And so what can people, if, you know, pick up a copy, what can they expect to find in that book? Book that you've written? Well, it's my journey. You know, it starts out, you know, but I didn't know what was going on, you know, just trying to find my way and hoping to just maybe get a footprint or something, you know, just anything.

1:09:16 So it starts from that. And then slowly, all this other stuff begins to happen. And yeah, that's just some of it. I mean, but that's a good, that's a good start. Fascinating. So I'm guessing like the conversation we had today just scratches the surface. And if you want more of that, definitely pick up a copy of the book. We'll have, we'll have a link to it in the show notes for the episode. So, so people can, is the best place to get that on Amazon or is there a place you'd rather people check out? I'll just get it on Amazon. Okay. That's fine. All right. Cool.

1:09:58 Cool. But places like that. Gotcha. Russell, what, what a fascinating conversation, man, we will have to keep in touch because you definitely have a cool way of, of looking at things over the years. Are there any other things that, you know, if people are wanting to, to, is there a way for people to reach out to you or you mentioned you have a YouTube channel, anything like that else? Yeah. I do have a YouTube channel and it's called Sasquatch Shaman of the Woods. So you can just go to that on YouTube and I'm just starting to put stuff on there. I'm so busy doing stuff that I have a tough time. I really want to be a filmmaker, but I don't have time. I just never had time to edit and do that kind of thing, you know, because I'm involved in so many things, you know, music and, the playhouse and I'm building a shack for my sister right now, that kind of thing. So yeah, it's hard to keep up with everything, but yeah. So look that up on YouTube and I got, I know I got the feather one on there where I got the feather.

1:11:05 So you'll see the log and the feather sticking in the middle of the log. And like I said, that's a short version, but I'm going to put a longer version on there, but I'm also going to put some archive stuff that, you know, that I've never shared on there. I got so many vocals and, you know, stuff like that. That's awesome. So I'll have that link in the show notes as well. People can check that out. Make sure you're subscribed to Russell's channel, but thank you so much for coming on the show and for sharing a bit of your journey with us, Russell. And we'll definitely be keeping in touch, but thank you again for coming on. I thank you so much for this.

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