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Sept. 8, 2026

He Saw a Gray Bigfoot in Ocean Shores—Then It Got Closer

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Season 1

Russell Wiitala went looking for Bigfoot nearly 20 years ago. Eventually, something started answering back.


In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Russell takes us deep into his experiences across Washington and the Pacific Northwest, beginning with strange tracks, powerful odors, unexplained knocks, and vocalizations in the Willapa Hills.


Then the encounters get closer.


Russell describes a January 2025 trip to Ocean Shores, Washington, where he spotted a figure standing beside the road before daylight. When he and his friend returned to investigate, his friend saw a gray-haired figure attempting to hide among the trees in a swamp.


Russell also shares years of experiences throughout the Olympic Peninsula and Wynoochee area: long screams echoing across valleys, rocks striking tents, strange voices in the forest, possible juvenile Sasquatch activity, trees coming down, unexplained gifts, and something descending a ridge and entering his campsite while he listened from inside his tent.


Some of Russell’s later experiences move into even stranger territory. He describes possible cloaking, mind-speak, unusual dreams, unexplained physical sensations, and his belief that certain locations may play a role in Sasquatch activity.


After nearly two decades of searching across four states and more than 30 areas, Russell has developed a very different understanding of what may be living in these forests.


This is one of those Bigfoot Society conversations that keeps getting stranger the deeper it goes.


Listen through the end and decide for yourself what Russell encountered in the woods.

Locations discussed include Raymond, the Willapa Hills, Ocean Shores, Wynoochee, the Olympic Peninsula, Lake Cushman, Staircase, and other areas of the Pacific Northwest.

Resources:

Russell’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Sasquatch-Shaman-Woods-Russell-Wiitala-ebook/dp/B09LTH43L9

https://www.youtube.com/@SasquatchShamanoftheWoods

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible.

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From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms

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and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere, and each

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one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are

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the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle

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in because today you'll hear another account that just might

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change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us.

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Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his

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fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey,

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please go to the CaringBridge link in the show notes.

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Thank you. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege

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of talking to Russell today. Russell is an individual I

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got connected to and He has been involved with the

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subject of Sasquatch. He's been searching for Sasquatch since around 2007.

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So welcome to the show, Russell. How are we doing today?

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Thank you. I'm doing great.

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Awesome. Great to hear. It's a great day.

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Man, 2007, believe it or not, but that is about

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almost 20 years ago.

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Yes.

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So I would imagine you have been through some interesting things.

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interesting things, but can you, can you take us back to,

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was there a certain, uh, instance or something that, that

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brought you into, uh, the Bigfoot subject to begin with?

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What was the catalyst for you?

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Yes. Well, Bigfoot wasn't even in my head. And, uh,

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back in 2007, I was, I was, uh, taking a

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walk with a friend of mine and he asked me,

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did you hear about the family that saw the Sasquatch

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up here? And it, well, he probably said Bigfoot, you know, but, uh,

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And immediately I looked at him and I went, what?

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And then the next thing out of my mouth is,

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do you want to go looking for Sasquatch? And so

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that's what started it. And then we started going out.

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I went out two, three times a week. Sometimes he

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was with me, but a lot of times I was alone.

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I went all over, you know, I live in Southwest Washington.

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So all over basically Southwest Washington, I was going. and

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looking for them, and we just figured, you know, they

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must be in the worst place possible, you know, a

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place that humans wouldn't go, so that's where we were going,

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you know, really difficult spots, and for four years, we

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found one possible print in four years, and it was

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in the bottom of a water pool. It was about,

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it was a good size. It was, you know, 16

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to 18 inches. I'm not sure, but Uh, it couldn't

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cast it. You could, uh, I think I did take

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some video of it, but, uh, that was it in

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four years, nothing. And then, uh, and then I started

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thinking to myself that maybe because I was so confident

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that I could find him, you know, I thought anybody can,

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I can, because my brain's so weird. Uh, but, uh,

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I lost my confidence in that and started thinking that

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maybe this was beyond me. Maybe I'm not up to it.

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And as soon as I had that thought, I had

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my first encounter, which is like within five miles of

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here on top of a hill. I was hiking up

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the hill. Wind was coming down from the hill and

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I smelled this awful smell. It smelled like something dead.

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there was no carcass. And I kept hiking and hiking

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and there is still no carcass. And I knew, OK,

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this is not right. You know, when you smell a carcass,

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you come upon it pretty quickly, usually. And so then

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I got back. I got on top of a ridge

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where there was a clear cut, just a small patch

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of trees up there. And I was standing looking around

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the clear cut for something. And I heard three knocks

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over by where the small patch of trees were. So I,

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you know, thought to myself, well, OK, this is what

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you're here for. This is what you've been looking for. So,

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you know, I gathered myself and went over there. And

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when I got over there, I didn't see anything. But

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I did get a couple light whiffs of that dead thing.

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And then I knew what happened. I mean, you know,

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in the interim, I had read all these things, you know,

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articles and I knew about the smell and all that.

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And so I rushed back home and Called my friend,

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who's also named Russell. And I called him and told him,

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I said, hey, I just had an incident. And I'm

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pretty sure it was an interaction and I think I

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can find him. I don't know why, but I regained

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my confidence all of a sudden. But I went on

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Google Earth. And to tell you the truth, at this time,

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at that time, I thought, you know, I put together

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these parameters. You know, every animal needs water. Every animal

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needs water. shelter, you know, these parameters I put together

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and I thought, okay, all these things have to be

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present and then they'll be there maybe, maybe. So, uh,

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so I, I looked on Google earth and, and to

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tell you the truth, I think I divined it more

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than anything. And I found a spot and I said, okay,

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we're going to go there and look. And when we

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got above that spot, uh, there was a landing down

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below where we're going to look, you know, where I

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thought they were close to that landing. But when we

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were on top of the ridge, before we went down,

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we stopped to just take a look at the valley.

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And this is in the Wilpaw Hills. And there were

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these indentations, these deep indentations where there had been logs lifted,

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but there were no logs. And it was obvious that

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no equipment went in there and grabbed those logs. Well,

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these logs were heavy. They were waterlogged, old, you know,

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sitting there for a long time. That's what made the

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deep indentations. And then we thought we found a couple

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prints around them, And, uh, I came to the conclusion,

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it was too brushy to see down below, but I

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just came to the conclusion that they had tossed him

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off the, the ridge. Uh, so anyway, we went down

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to landing and, uh, I made a call and we

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heard some noise down below us, uh, movement. And, you know,

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I said, well, that could be an elk. It could

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be anything. It could be a bear, you know, who

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knows what it is. Uh, And that was about it

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for the first time. And then the second time, I

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believe we got Knox. I'd have to refer to my

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book for that because I've got a lot of these things,

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you know, I journal every day and stuff happens all

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the time. So I forget a lot of details. So

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that's the importance of keeping a journal, by the way.

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I would say a hundred percent. I bring that up

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all the time on the show.

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If people are experiencing weird stuff at home or Sasquatch activity,

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You have to journal it because you will forget most

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of it. And when you reread it, you'll make connections.

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Wilpaw Hills, that's an area I'm not familiar with. Is

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that by Mount St. Helens or is it further west?

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No, it's further west. I live in Raymond, Washington, which

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is about 20 miles from the beach. And Wilpaw Hills

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are just up the valley from me. In fact, I'm

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actually in the valley right now.

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Oh, I got it.

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So yeah, that's, uh, that's almost like you're over by, um, yeah, yeah.

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Long Beach. It's, it's North, Northeast of Long Beach.

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That's right.

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We're in the same, there's activity down there.

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Yep. Oh boy.

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Is there?

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Oh, I mean, I've gotten one report, uh, back a

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few years ago, but it sounds like you are pretty

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familiar with that, that area.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be interested in this report actually. Uh, so, Uh,

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I mean, if you know, do you know right now?

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Uh, yeah.

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So, uh, plug for the website, uh, bigfootsocietypodcast.com. I make

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a Google map of everyone I've ever talked to. And, uh,

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this particular, it's an episode 835. A guy was staying

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in a coastal house, looked out from an upstairs window.

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He observed a large gray creature with long arms, massive shoulders.

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They made eye contact and then it turned and walked

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away into the forest. Uh, so, uh, Yeah, pretty cool one.

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But yeah, that's one you can actually listen to the

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gentleman share his experience in 835.

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So there you go, man.

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But wow, I've heard so many weird things from, I mean,

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ocean shores. I'm sure you're familiar with that. There's so

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many strange things over in ocean shores.

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I saw a gray one there.

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Really?

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In ocean shores.

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Oh, can you share that?

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Well, this will tell you somewhat our connection. We have

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a very strong connection. And they were seeing them in

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ocean shores. I think they're harvesting the deer there because

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this place is just packed with deer. You can't drive

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down the road without breaking for a deer sooner or later.

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You know, that's how many deer there are right in

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ocean shores. And there are several people who had incidents,

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you know, they'd seen them and And one talked about

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one harvesting a deer on their property and that kind

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of thing. And so through another connection, I was asked

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to give a presentation there at Ocean Shores. And this was,

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I can tell you the exact date. It was January 18th, 2025.

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And I and my friend, Russell Wilson, not the quarterback,

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we took off early. from my house to go do

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that presentation. And so it was still dark out when

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we hit January 18th. It was still dark out when

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we hit Ocean Shores. Well, just past the exit for

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the casino, there was a Sasquatch standing right next to

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the road. Drove by and I asked my buddy, did

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you see that? He goes, no. And I went, oh, okay. Well,

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there's a truck right behind me. So I didn't stop

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and swing around or anything. We just kept going. And

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usually when you do that, they're gone anyway. So almost always, well,

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anytime I've done it. So we drove to McDonald's, had breakfast.

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And then by then it's getting light. So I wanted

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to drive back and see if there was a statue there.

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you know, because it was right next to the casino exit.

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So I thought, well, you know, maybe they put a

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Sasquatch statue right there. Although it was really close to

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the road. Didn't make sense to me, but we drove

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back and there was no statue. And then my friend

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who was gazing into, you know, there's just like these

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thin trees right in a swamp on the other side.

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And he saw it. He saw it standing there. And,

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you know, in my interpretation, when we went by it,

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it was really dark. The hair. But he saw it

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when it got light and he said, yeah, it has

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gray hair. But he said it was kind of funny

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because he was hiding behind a little thin tree. And

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he said like his head's behind the tree, but his

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body's sticking out on both sides. So as soon as

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he saw it, it wasn't very far. It was like 200,

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300 yards to the exit for the casino. So I

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whipped around real quick and we went back and he

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was gone. Wow.

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And this just happened in 2025.

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Oh my goodness.

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You hear so much, so many things over the years.

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I mean, I talked to a gentleman named Lynn Gaspar

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and he had an experience out in ocean shores in 59.

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And then, I mean, I believe there's even a.

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Copalis beach has documented things that have happened up there,

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which is just, just North it. Do you think it's

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mainly the deer that are bringing them to this area?

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Or is there any other reason that there's so much

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activity out there?

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Well, it could be going for the shellfish too, but.

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Oh yeah. Cause I, I just heard a report, my

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next door neighbor, you know, relative or friend, I can't remember,

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but he told me this about two months ago that

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he was driving down near NEMA and went across the road.

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And I just assume it's going, get a harvest you

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know of some sort they cross the road there to

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go over to to the bay and harvest clams or

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oysters that sort of thing and i found by the

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way i found uh uh oyster shell and clam shell

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sorry about that way up in the woods you know

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uh maybe people are taking them up there and eat

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them eating them you know but uh a couple of

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those i wonder about because it don't make sense, but

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they're way up there, you know? So I don't know.

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Maybe they got a bag.

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That's, that's very, very interesting. You hear stuff like that

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stuff out in the woods. It just doesn't, doesn't belong.

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So you had the sighting in 25.

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Was there, I.

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Think in this field, I talked to people and I

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even experienced this myself. There's always a, a, a, pretty

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substantial thing that happens that really kicks you over into

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like way past a hundred percent yes they're real was

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that um is that a situation we've already talked about

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or is there one that comes to mind that really

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launched you.

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Yeah that was the the original family that we original

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uh that we ended up calling the becko clan and

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uh we kept going out there and heard knocks and

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then uh And one night we were out there and

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we decided to camp out. And so we set up

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our tents and I made a scream. And it was

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about five minutes later. Well, it was actually, yeah, it

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was quite a few minutes later because we had some

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pork and beans and hot dogs. And so I fixed

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them and we ate them. And that was right after that,

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that we got a scream back. And he was about,

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I'd say two miles away, but he filled that whole valley.

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and he sustained his scream, you know, for like over

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12 seconds. It was insane amount of time. And when

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I screamed, the coyote started up when he screamed, everything

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in the Valley went quiet, dead, quiet, uh, deep respect.

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Those coyotes shut really up really quick. Uh, so that

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that's Beko. And I really not sure where that family

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is now, but it was a family of five because, uh,

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we're trying to figure out, okay, we found him now.

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What would he, what do we do? You know? Well,

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that first night when he screamed back and, and then

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we detected him coming, coming closer. Uh, I asked my friend,

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what do you want to do? And he says, let's

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get the hell out of here. And so we, we

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just grabbed our gear and threw it in, didn't put

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anything away, you know, just stuffed it in our, my

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Subaru and, and took out of there. Uh, but then, uh,

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then I went back and, uh, we're persistent. We've set

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up a camp again. And that time he came into

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the camp. Uh, uh, I heard some pebbles hit my

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tent and, but I had a drink, drank some beer

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that night, which I don't do a lot of. So,

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you know, I thought, Oh, well, you know, if he

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hasn't killed us by now, he's not going to kill us.

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So I just went to bed. And plus I've done

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a lot of studies. So I wasn't really afraid of

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them that much, you know, at that point in time. Uh,

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So that's what happened. And then my friend heard it

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walking around the tent and we got up and we

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couldn't find any prints or anything, but there was some puke.

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It had, it had a grubbed this, this stump nearby and, and,

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and puked. And I could tell it was the same,

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you know, it was a color, the same color as the, the, the,

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the stump, the puke was. So then we're still trying

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to figure out what to do. So I, I took

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out this little thing that I whirl around my head,

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you know, sounds like a UFO. I thought this might

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entertain him. Let's do this. And he says, nope, didn't work.

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They scrambled. So I said, okay, well, we'll think of

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something else. And of course I'm a musician. So I thought, well,

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maybe I read about this woman who played a flute

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for one, you know, and actually didn't want her to stop,

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kept growling at her when she tried to stop, you know,

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And so I thought, well, I'll take my guitar out

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there and just play some music. And the first time

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I played my guitar and was putting it back in

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my Subaru, in the back of the Subaru, I heard

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what sounded like a 10-year-old girl right over my left

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shoulder go, oh. I mean, seriously, it gave me a

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huge chill. I woke up my buddy because he was

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sleeping in the chair. I told him, okay, now I

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know what to do. So we started playing for him.

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And I took other musicians out to other Not to

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that group, but his daughter eventually came out with us.

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And she saw, I think she saw one out there

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part the brush. I don't know if she saw it

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or not, but she saw the brush part. And I

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saw a young, I think I saw the one that said, oh,

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peeking out from behind a tree real quick. And so

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eventually I started a smoky fire and it went right

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down into where they were standing. And they got upset

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and he started whistling and the boys surrounded us. There

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were two boys, him and the youngest was the, was

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the girl and the mom. And they always stayed on

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one side and the male and the two boys stayed

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on the other side. But anyway, they, they went up

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and in the, you know, perches above us and, and,

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and called out sort of like a coyote call. And

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then he pushed down a tree and I thought, Oh, okay, well,

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you know, maybe they're not happy with that fire. And

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so from then on, uh, for a long time, I

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didn't start any fires when I went out. Uh, but anyway, uh,

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so that I, we didn't go back there for like

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13 months, but in the interim, I thought, well, I

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found that one. Maybe I can find some more. So

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I started going other places, including the Olympics, uh, And

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it seemed like everywhere I went, I got interaction. They

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would come and they would call. And it was just crazy.

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I found like six families in six months, you know.

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So that's fun. That is fantastic.

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Were you, were you using your guitar at all of

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the different situations?

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Yeah. I always play my guitar and I play my

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drum too. Now I got an elk drum and they

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like it. I know they like it because they've, let

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me know, you know, by calling right after I shut down,

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you know, so they liked the elk drum as well.

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So I do that first usually. And then I play

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the guitar. Sometimes I pick the drum up again. So, uh, yeah,

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I do those two things everywhere I go. It's a tradition.

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It's my gift to them because I know they like it. Uh,

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One time, in fact, another clan, one of those that

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I found in the six months, which isn't that far

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away from here, but in a different location. Anyway, it

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might not even be in this county. It might be

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just outside this county. But anyway, I brought a couple

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of up there that were you know she was a

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singer he was a guitar player and they did a

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song so beautifully and we're up there and we hear

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this uh baby scream in delight enjoyed it so much

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that she just had to scream that was kind of

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cool and they were very close you know these i

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mean they're close enough uh where we can hear them

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talk we can hear them talking to each other but

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i've never been able to get a good recording i

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don't i don't really have that good of recording equipment

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But I want to tell you how I turned from

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a researcher to just a friend.

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I would love that. Yeah.

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Because for the first two years, you know, that's what

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I was doing. I was trying to analyze and putting

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cameras out and, you know, taking material to make casts

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and stuff like that. But there was this one hike.

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that I'd go on and it was, you know, pretty

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grueling hike. And at the top of the peak, there

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is a stump and a big rock sitting on top

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of the stump. And when I saw it, I just thought, oh,

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that Sasquatch did that. You know, I just had a feeling.

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And so I thought, well, I'll pick up a rock

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and put it next to it. You know, that's represents me.

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So I put the rock on top and I go

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up there the next time and my rock's off. I

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put another rock on next time. Rocks off. Okay. This

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time I'm going to put a big rock. One that

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the wind won't blow off. Cause that's what, you know,

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I thought maybe the wind was blowing it off. So

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I put a big rock up and that rock completely disappeared.

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It wasn't anywhere to be found. And then I heard this,

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it sounded like a man, but I, he was pleading

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with me. I could tell it was a plead, you know, and,

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and it touched me and I thought, Oh, this rock

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is important. And I thought, I think this rock is

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a memorial. What made me think that? But that's what

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I thought. I took my hat off. I gave it respects.

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And then the next time out, they left me this heart.

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That's incredible. It does look like a heart.

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Doesn't it?

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Wow. That's the first thing I thought before you said that, man.

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Yeah. So I want to tell you something about this heart, though.

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This is crazy. So I take this heart home. And

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I think of another item that I found a few

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years before. I knew it was important, but I didn't

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know why. I hid it in my roll top desk

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and it sat in there for years. And it's this.

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I know it doesn't look like much, but it actually

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has a perfect carving of a flying saucer on it.

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And you might be able to see there's like a

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glowing figure there. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, it's surrounded. So...

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I took these two things, items, when I got home

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and I meditated with them. And I had a zero

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gravity chair leaning up against my wall. And my cat

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jumped up on the bed when I was like five

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minutes into meditation. And something was above me. I saw it.

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You know, I had my eyes closed, but I could

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still see it, which is weird. But it's like a

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black blob. and flew and hit the wall and knocked

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over my zero gravity chair. My cat took off. I

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jumped out of bed. I had an adrenaline rush. I said,

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don't you ever scare my cat again or else. I

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don't know what I was going to do. But anyway,

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that was the first time I meditated with it. But

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after that, they charged this thing up with something. I

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don't know, but for like 13 or 14 months after that,

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In the morning, like it'd still be dark out, I'm

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an early riser, and I'd reach for my glasses, and

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these blue bolts would come off and touch my glasses

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before I got to them. Very crazy. And that slowly

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wore out. It was like they had a battery. It

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was charged. Now it's not, but about last year, I

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think it cracked, made a loud crack. I take all

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these things to bed, see, so I meditate with them

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and they just stay in bed with me. But, you know,

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right next to my head, this thing, I think it

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was this one. Anyway, crack.

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Wow. Real crack.

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So, yeah, that's just one incident. And this whole thing

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just turned metaphysical. Once I once I engaged with them

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as a friend, I just opened myself up and I said, hey,

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what do you have to show me? You know, what

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can you show me?

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When you said you open yourself up and you're saying that,

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are you saying that verbally out loud or is this

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like an internal conversation?

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Internal.

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And in fact, I'll tell you a story that just

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happened about three weeks ago. I got a bunch of feathers,

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you know, that I've received for as gifts. And I

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was looking at them, gazing at them. And I thought, geez,

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it's been quite a while since I've gotten a feather

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for a gift. You know, I know they haven't forgotten

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about me, but I haven't gotten a feather for a

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gift for quite a while. I love getting them for gifts.

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You know, it's kind of cool. So the next morning

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I'm hiking and this is on YouTube, by the way.

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I put this on YouTube. I got the short version.

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I'm going to put a longer version on there. But anyway,

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I'm walking down the road and there's a washed out area,

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real steep incline, you know, washed out. But there's a

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log sitting there that's horizontal. It's like, that doesn't make sense.

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But when I got closer, I saw that it was

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00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:54.700
being held up by four sticks. And in the top

460
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:58.769
was my feather. Oh, man. Wow.

461
00:25:59.890 --> 00:26:02.089
That's absolutely incredible, Russell.

462
00:26:02.150 --> 00:26:06.630
So it sounds like most of this time it's been

463
00:26:06.890 --> 00:26:09.529
you and other Russell.

464
00:26:09.650 --> 00:26:11.809
And then at times you're bringing in people.

465
00:26:13.269 --> 00:26:15.490
No, that hasn't really worked. I took four people out

466
00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:19.680
the other night. They shut down. They make your choice.

467
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:23.619
They read your energy. They decide what to do. I

468
00:26:23.660 --> 00:26:24.609
don't think they wanted that.

469
00:26:26.009 --> 00:26:26.789
It was an experiment.

470
00:26:28.470 --> 00:26:31.410
I didn't know, you know, well, I didn't know two

471
00:26:31.430 --> 00:26:33.950
of the people. One of them, I guess I met

472
00:26:33.990 --> 00:26:35.549
when he was a kid. He remembered me, but I

473
00:26:36.130 --> 00:26:38.349
went camping with him and another buddy at one time,

474
00:26:38.369 --> 00:26:40.650
but I couldn't remember him, but he was there.

475
00:26:41.910 --> 00:26:46.049
I found when you go out and trying to have

476
00:26:46.450 --> 00:26:50.750
connection You have other people with you. It's very important

477
00:26:50.950 --> 00:26:56.470
to do your homework before you bring people into these

478
00:26:56.549 --> 00:26:58.630
areas because you want to make sure they have the

479
00:26:58.670 --> 00:27:03.339
right intention. You have the wrong person come in that

480
00:27:03.390 --> 00:27:08.579
could really mess up the whole thing for a long time, really.

481
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.339
I asked for guidance when I found that feather. When

482
00:27:13.180 --> 00:27:16.039
I ask for guidance, usually I don't get any, you know.

483
00:27:16.450 --> 00:27:18.529
But on that case, I got up to the stop sign.

484
00:27:18.569 --> 00:27:20.910
I was going to turn left. And something told me, oh,

485
00:27:20.930 --> 00:27:21.670
you got to turn right.

486
00:27:22.509 --> 00:27:22.890
Got you.

487
00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:26.349
Go this way. And then I got the thought, oh,

488
00:27:26.430 --> 00:27:28.289
I haven't been to Smith Creek for quite some time.

489
00:27:28.309 --> 00:27:30.289
So I'm going to hike up Smith Creek, you know.

490
00:27:31.009 --> 00:27:33.890
And that's what happened. And I don't mind mentioning these

491
00:27:33.930 --> 00:27:36.190
places because you're not going to find them. You don't

492
00:27:36.230 --> 00:27:40.299
find them. That was the first lesson. Four years of nothing.

493
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.299
You know, that was, hey, you don't find us. We

494
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:48.950
find you when it's time. And to them, I think

495
00:27:49.009 --> 00:27:52.430
time is kind of somewhat nonlinear, to tell you the truth,

496
00:27:52.490 --> 00:27:55.230
from some of the things I've gone through.

497
00:27:55.299 --> 00:27:57.690
Has there been a certain experience that's led you to

498
00:27:57.730 --> 00:27:58.170
believe that?

499
00:28:00.460 --> 00:28:02.119
Oh, yeah. You mean time nonlinear?

500
00:28:02.500 --> 00:28:02.920
Yeah, sure.

501
00:28:03.259 --> 00:28:12.900
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This is not exactly about time,

502
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:15.680
but I've had time dilation. Like I watched a football

503
00:28:15.700 --> 00:28:22.089
game in 17 minutes once. You know, crazy. I watched

504
00:28:22.130 --> 00:28:25.029
Jupiter rise above the horizon and go down and come

505
00:28:25.089 --> 00:28:29.230
up three times. One time. Out in my kitchen, right

506
00:28:29.250 --> 00:28:35.099
over here. So that would be time manipulation. And I'm

507
00:28:35.140 --> 00:28:38.180
not sure exactly how they do these things, of course.

508
00:28:39.779 --> 00:28:43.420
But one time I was hiking up there in the

509
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.930
Wilpaw Hills. And I was on this ridge and I

510
00:28:46.990 --> 00:28:49.490
heard a tree go down on another ridge and I knew, oh,

511
00:28:49.750 --> 00:28:52.710
that's my teacher. I have one I call teacher. That's

512
00:28:52.730 --> 00:28:54.130
the one that left me the feather, by the way.

513
00:28:54.210 --> 00:28:56.470
He and his daughter, his daughter's name is Candace. I

514
00:28:56.509 --> 00:29:01.319
named her Candace. Doesn't have a mate. She died tragically.

515
00:29:01.859 --> 00:29:05.539
But anyway, so I knew he wanted me up there.

516
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.440
So it was too far to go that day. So

517
00:29:08.500 --> 00:29:10.480
I waited until the next day and I hiked up

518
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:14.910
there and About that time, you know, I was asking

519
00:29:15.710 --> 00:29:17.339
for a print because I hadn't seen a print for

520
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.559
a while. You just kind of like to see these

521
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.180
things once in a while, you know. And in Frozen,

522
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.039
it was Frozen at that time. And in Frozen Leaves,

523
00:29:25.819 --> 00:29:29.339
there were three prints. That's also in my book, by

524
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.730
the way, that picture of one of them. And so

525
00:29:33.650 --> 00:29:35.430
then I get up on the ridge and I'm looking around.

526
00:29:35.450 --> 00:29:38.339
I wonder why he wanted me up here. I don't

527
00:29:38.380 --> 00:29:41.099
see the tree that's pushed down, of course. I've only

528
00:29:41.140 --> 00:29:45.480
found those very rarely. I'm looking around. I see these

529
00:29:45.859 --> 00:29:52.089
three trees standing, mature, kind of standing alone. And then

530
00:29:52.130 --> 00:29:55.829
there's this kind of leaner that goes across that way.

531
00:29:56.349 --> 00:30:00.380
But on one of the trees was this symbol. weird symbol,

532
00:30:01.769 --> 00:30:06.049
like someone had taken a hatchet and chipped out four

533
00:30:06.069 --> 00:30:08.890
or five across and five or six down, right? And

534
00:30:08.910 --> 00:30:14.410
then underneath it looked like an elk horn. Two of

535
00:30:14.470 --> 00:30:20.490
the horns had made a little like round symbol thing,

536
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:24.079
sort of, you know, like that, just a curve. And

537
00:30:24.099 --> 00:30:27.900
I thought, wow. And it's in a spot, you know,

538
00:30:27.940 --> 00:30:30.349
where Like a human can't just go over there and

539
00:30:30.390 --> 00:30:34.190
chip it because it's like off the ground 15 feet. And,

540
00:30:34.369 --> 00:30:36.849
you know, elk didn't do that. You know, I just

541
00:30:36.869 --> 00:30:40.200
couldn't get there. So I took a picture of it,

542
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:43.279
of course. And I was going to go visit my

543
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:47.440
friend Joe Hauser. He owns the Montana Vortex.

544
00:30:47.779 --> 00:30:48.680
Right.

545
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:52.859
And so really soon after. So I thought, OK, I'm

546
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.119
going to show it to him because he's an animal expert.

547
00:30:55.890 --> 00:30:58.950
Maybe there's some weird animal out there that does this stuff.

548
00:31:00.109 --> 00:31:02.890
I didn't think so. But, you know, I just thought

549
00:31:02.910 --> 00:31:04.089
it would be fun to show it to him and

550
00:31:04.150 --> 00:31:08.349
see what his opinion would be. So just a couple

551
00:31:08.369 --> 00:31:13.390
of days before I took off for Montana, I checked

552
00:31:13.450 --> 00:31:16.259
my camera to see that picture again. It wasn't there.

553
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:20.720
I went, what? How is that picture not there? So

554
00:31:20.740 --> 00:31:23.240
I thought, well, I know where the tree is. I'll

555
00:31:23.259 --> 00:31:26.890
just go up there and take another picture. And so

556
00:31:26.950 --> 00:31:30.730
I hiked back up there and all three of those trees,

557
00:31:30.819 --> 00:31:35.380
including the leaner, were gone. Like they never existed. There

558
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.940
was no stump. Nobody had cut them. And that place,

559
00:31:38.980 --> 00:31:41.460
that was before it was logged. You know, since then

560
00:31:41.500 --> 00:31:49.160
it's been logged. But anyway, that was the Mandela effect.

561
00:31:50.190 --> 00:31:50.890
It's fascinating.

562
00:31:51.490 --> 00:31:53.750
And the other thing that happened during that time is

563
00:31:53.789 --> 00:31:57.200
there used to be, I remember it so well, which

564
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.359
is weird, but I remember this, this hike I used

565
00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:02.470
to go on, you know, and it was on a,

566
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:11.680
on a power line, not there anymore. So that's, that, that,

567
00:32:12.650 --> 00:32:14.490
that's just one of the weird things they've shown me.

568
00:32:14.829 --> 00:32:17.650
They got lots of these powers. And the reason why

569
00:32:17.670 --> 00:32:20.490
I wanted me up on that ridge, I'm sure is

570
00:32:20.529 --> 00:32:24.210
because there's like some sort of demarcation line for a

571
00:32:24.210 --> 00:32:27.400
vortex field or something like that there. Because one day

572
00:32:27.420 --> 00:32:30.089
I was hiking. I was hiking on a kind of

573
00:32:30.140 --> 00:32:31.950
a parallel road. You know, I wasn't on that road.

574
00:32:31.970 --> 00:32:35.329
I was on a parallel road. And all of a sudden,

575
00:32:35.509 --> 00:32:37.789
my steps felt like I was walking through water for

576
00:32:37.829 --> 00:32:42.049
about three steps. And then it went away. And I've

577
00:32:42.069 --> 00:32:49.009
been through that area several times, but never experienced that again. But, yeah.

578
00:32:50.029 --> 00:32:50.470
Okay.

579
00:32:50.539 --> 00:32:55.559
So do you think– has there been a time where–

580
00:32:55.859 --> 00:32:59.359
you have experienced, um, most people in the community would

581
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:02.859
say like a portal or, or anything like that in

582
00:33:02.900 --> 00:33:03.579
the same area.

583
00:33:04.140 --> 00:33:06.700
Yeah. Well, no, not in the same area. No, this

584
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.759
happened to me down in Oregon. Here's another story for you.

585
00:33:10.259 --> 00:33:10.799
Okay.

586
00:33:11.140 --> 00:33:14.980
So I went down to, uh, cottage Grove to watch. Yeah.

587
00:33:16.369 --> 00:33:17.549
You know, right.

588
00:33:17.569 --> 00:33:17.890
Yeah.

589
00:33:18.230 --> 00:33:18.410
Right.

590
00:33:18.450 --> 00:33:19.369
Yeah.

591
00:33:19.690 --> 00:33:22.589
It's, it's famous for this, but anyway, I went down

592
00:33:22.630 --> 00:33:26.940
there to, uh, uh, kind of, I, partook in the,

593
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:31.059
in the, uh, the podcast a little bit, you know, uh,

594
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:33.470
so I guess I'm on it, but I never watched it.

595
00:33:33.799 --> 00:33:36.259
But anyway, uh, right after it was about noon and

596
00:33:36.299 --> 00:33:38.779
I took off for Florence, Oregon, which is due West

597
00:33:39.180 --> 00:33:43.029
on the, on the coast. And, but, uh, there were

598
00:33:43.049 --> 00:33:45.609
no signs, you know, so I, I, I didn't know,

599
00:33:45.630 --> 00:33:48.089
you know, in my, my map, it didn't show any

600
00:33:48.109 --> 00:33:49.809
of the roads on my map. So I just thought, Oh, well,

601
00:33:49.829 --> 00:33:52.529
I'll just go West. You know, I'll just keep going West. I'll,

602
00:33:52.670 --> 00:33:55.230
I'll run into a highway or something sooner or later. Right.

603
00:33:57.349 --> 00:33:59.250
this is what I would call a country road. It

604
00:33:59.289 --> 00:34:01.769
was almost a highway, but not, but I only saw

605
00:34:01.829 --> 00:34:05.390
like two cars in 45 minutes driving on it. So

606
00:34:05.829 --> 00:34:10.210
I'm driving along and this is funny because Joe Houser had,

607
00:34:11.170 --> 00:34:14.409
he had posted a picture of a grizzly and her

608
00:34:14.429 --> 00:34:17.679
cubs that I, I assume he took. And I thought, wow,

609
00:34:17.699 --> 00:34:19.780
that's cool. I haven't seen a bear for a while.

610
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:21.780
So I had that in my head, right? I come

611
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:25.659
around a corner and there's a black bear coming towards me, right?

612
00:34:26.739 --> 00:34:28.699
And I hit my brakes because I don't want to

613
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:29.840
hit it. I don't know what it's going to do,

614
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:33.099
you know? And so I start hitting my brakes and

615
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:36.380
it cut right in front of me, leaped. And it

616
00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:41.989
was like, there was an invisible door there just disappeared. Really?

617
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:43.710
And, and, and midair.

618
00:34:44.250 --> 00:34:45.250
Yeah. Yeah.

619
00:34:45.429 --> 00:34:45.829
Man.

620
00:34:45.889 --> 00:34:48.449
Yeah. And there was nothing on the slope and I

621
00:34:48.469 --> 00:34:51.789
couldn't see a, uh, you know, like a portal. I

622
00:34:51.829 --> 00:34:55.190
really couldn't see anything there. So I stopped and, uh,

623
00:34:56.139 --> 00:34:59.489
just looked at it for about five minutes thinking, what,

624
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:03.030
how did they do that? Did they train a bear

625
00:35:03.190 --> 00:35:07.130
or did they like maybe rerun, uh, uh, some sort

626
00:35:07.170 --> 00:35:09.789
of clip from a time before when a bear did that,

627
00:35:09.869 --> 00:35:12.530
you know, and, you know, that's what was going through

628
00:35:12.550 --> 00:35:16.550
my head. But since then, and in fact, in Rob Alley's,

629
00:35:16.630 --> 00:35:19.920
one of his books, I read about, uh, three Native Americans.

630
00:35:20.579 --> 00:35:23.940
I believe they're Native Americans. Uh, and they were up

631
00:35:24.099 --> 00:35:27.409
there and, canada or alaska and they're tooling along in

632
00:35:27.449 --> 00:35:30.409
a boat and they see this dude walking along the

633
00:35:30.449 --> 00:35:33.590
shoreline that you know they're thinking what's that guy doing

634
00:35:33.630 --> 00:35:36.329
over there that doesn't make sense you know there's nobody

635
00:35:36.389 --> 00:35:39.650
on that island there's nothing to see or harvest on

636
00:35:39.670 --> 00:35:42.670
that island maybe maybe he got stuck you know maybe

637
00:35:42.710 --> 00:35:45.929
his boat's broken down or something he's just walking along

638
00:35:45.949 --> 00:35:48.190
the shore and so they start tooling over that way

639
00:35:48.690 --> 00:35:50.469
and when they get closer they realize oh that's a

640
00:35:50.550 --> 00:35:54.449
sasquatch They just keep going because they're on the water,

641
00:35:54.510 --> 00:35:56.829
you know, and he's on the shore. So they're going

642
00:35:56.849 --> 00:35:59.769
to get a good close look. When they get close enough,

643
00:36:01.050 --> 00:36:03.349
all three of these guys said the same thing. He

644
00:36:03.409 --> 00:36:05.800
morphed into an otter and just kept walking.

645
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:11.199
Oh, no way. Yeah, totally. Yeah.

646
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.900
So now I believe that what I witnessed was a

647
00:36:14.940 --> 00:36:19.579
shape-shifting Sasquatch that looked really real. It really did. I mean,

648
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:21.500
it ran right in front of my car. It was

649
00:36:21.539 --> 00:36:24.619
just so close, you know. Wow.

650
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:26.420
Dude, that is wild.

651
00:36:27.019 --> 00:36:31.000
Just for me, so you were in Cottage Grove to

652
00:36:31.059 --> 00:36:33.860
record a podcast. You weren't out there looking in the

653
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:35.940
woods because there's a lot of weird stuff that goes on.

654
00:36:35.980 --> 00:36:37.900
I just went there to watch a podcast, but I

655
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:41.539
ended up kind of in it a little bit. But, yeah. Oh, gotcha.

656
00:36:41.579 --> 00:36:43.719
Was that Tobe Johnson back in the day?

657
00:36:44.179 --> 00:36:44.340
Yep.

658
00:36:45.059 --> 00:36:46.260
Yeah, yeah.

659
00:36:46.420 --> 00:36:51.349
He had some really– His old podcast was great. You

660
00:36:51.389 --> 00:36:53.690
can still find it on YouTube. It's good stuff. He's

661
00:36:53.710 --> 00:36:54.130
a great guy.

662
00:36:55.190 --> 00:36:55.929
My goodness.

663
00:36:56.170 --> 00:36:59.769
So you've mentioned that it sounds like the main Sasquatch

664
00:36:59.829 --> 00:37:04.420
that you connect with is you call teacher. What do

665
00:37:04.460 --> 00:37:07.539
you think the most important thing you've been taught over

666
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:08.440
the years is?

667
00:37:08.460 --> 00:37:16.489
I don't know. Boy, that's a tough question. I think

668
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:21.590
basically it's I can feel their compassion and their love,

669
00:37:22.090 --> 00:37:26.889
you know, they've shown nothing but respect to me. And

670
00:37:27.010 --> 00:37:30.690
so I appreciate that greatly. But I want to make

671
00:37:30.769 --> 00:37:33.789
one more mention about what I found out later.

672
00:37:34.369 --> 00:37:34.650
Yes.

673
00:37:35.090 --> 00:37:37.929
After that portal thing. So at the time I was

674
00:37:37.969 --> 00:37:42.030
reading this book called the golden vortex, which I had,

675
00:37:42.570 --> 00:37:45.889
which Joe had given me at, at the, when I left,

676
00:37:46.469 --> 00:37:49.170
He gave me that and another book called 216. It

677
00:37:50.250 --> 00:37:53.690
was actually a pamphlet. And they're both authored by this

678
00:37:53.750 --> 00:37:58.320
guy named Nick Nelson. And I was reading it at

679
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:02.679
the time. And when that happened, I thought maybe I

680
00:38:03.139 --> 00:38:06.179
was on a demarcation line for one of these regional

681
00:38:06.219 --> 00:38:11.610
vortexes that he had charted in his book. So I looked. Yes,

682
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.130
I was on a regional vortex where the center is

683
00:38:15.170 --> 00:38:17.590
between Klamath Falls and And Crater Lake.

684
00:38:18.429 --> 00:38:19.210
Oh, snap.

685
00:38:19.630 --> 00:38:23.409
It stretches way down to California. Well, Nick Nelson had

686
00:38:23.429 --> 00:38:26.909
a story about that Vortex, too, that demarcation line. He

687
00:38:26.929 --> 00:38:30.510
was going to Reno with a friend, and they had

688
00:38:30.530 --> 00:38:34.150
just left a restaurant and checked his watch, you know,

689
00:38:34.329 --> 00:38:36.110
how much time, you know, because they're going all the

690
00:38:36.130 --> 00:38:39.489
way to Reno from Bellingham or wherever he lived back then.

691
00:38:40.170 --> 00:38:46.260
And so they left, and suddenly they're 100 miles down

692
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.340
the road. And he pulls over and asks his buddy,

693
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.969
you know, what just happened? And his buddy goes, I'm

694
00:38:53.010 --> 00:38:57.869
not sure. Did we pass this? Did we pass that? Nope. Wow. Well,

695
00:38:57.909 --> 00:39:02.650
that happened on the same demarcation line, but it was

696
00:39:02.710 --> 00:39:07.530
in California. It was way down by Pleasantville. And mine happened,

697
00:39:07.849 --> 00:39:13.110
you know, actually, I think I was a little northwest

698
00:39:13.170 --> 00:39:15.230
of Cottage Grove at the time.

699
00:39:16.860 --> 00:39:20.780
So very interesting. So I'm not familiar with that term myself.

700
00:39:20.780 --> 00:39:23.360
Is it is this close to like when people talk

701
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.010
about ley lines or is completely different?

702
00:39:26.010 --> 00:39:28.739
Yeah, well, ley lines are, I think, are global and

703
00:39:28.739 --> 00:39:34.659
and vortexes create their own ley lines but they're circular.

704
00:39:34.219 --> 00:39:38.940
Around them okay yeah interesting yeah they're.

705
00:39:38.539 --> 00:39:42.139
Circular and they they rotate you know the one in

706
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:48.309
in montana vortex rotates counterclockwise a lot of people can

707
00:39:48.469 --> 00:39:52.730
feel it uh i couldn't feel it by the way

708
00:39:52.769 --> 00:39:55.469
when i went there we went out at night and

709
00:39:55.530 --> 00:39:57.289
doors were opening and shutting.

710
00:39:56.969 --> 00:40:00.530
And and uh like you could hear the sound of

711
00:40:00.610 --> 00:40:03.150
doors opening and shutting or oh yeah one i.

712
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:06.300
Saw i was actually he went to bed i was

713
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.139
about to go to bed he allowed me to tent

714
00:40:09.380 --> 00:40:13.739
in a vortex he's never done that before since so

715
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:16.739
anyway i was in in you know the the guests

716
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:19.219
what were the you know the the people that visit,

717
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:23.280
you know, I'm, I'm in there, uh, getting, doing my

718
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.280
business and the door opens and closes. I don't know

719
00:40:26.300 --> 00:40:28.449
if they're coming or going. So I just said, hello,

720
00:40:28.670 --> 00:40:33.510
you know, but, uh, yeah. Yeah. I recorded that night too.

721
00:40:33.590 --> 00:40:36.269
And there was all kinds of noises and doors closing

722
00:40:36.309 --> 00:40:40.480
and opening and stuff. But, uh, that highway is so

723
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.940
distracting that I just, I dumped it, you know, I mean,

724
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.019
who wants to just hear that?

725
00:40:46.300 --> 00:40:46.840
Interesting.

726
00:40:47.340 --> 00:40:51.739
You brought up the Klamath Crater Lake area. And that's

727
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:53.539
an area of Oregon I haven't been to yet. But

728
00:40:53.579 --> 00:40:59.900
the stuff that I get from that area is absolutely intense. Prospect,

729
00:41:00.380 --> 00:41:02.880
Union Creek, there's a lot of wild stuff that happens

730
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:06.480
over there. And then I just had a conversation about

731
00:41:06.659 --> 00:41:10.000
ongoing stuff in, I can say, the Klamath region. And

732
00:41:10.500 --> 00:41:13.440
so you're saying that that's a pretty charged up area.

733
00:41:13.460 --> 00:41:17.360
Yeah, there's actually more than one vortex there. Uh, Nick's

734
00:41:17.699 --> 00:41:22.389
Nick's a book. Yeah. He mentions another vortex in the area,

735
00:41:22.849 --> 00:41:25.710
but it's underwater now because they put a dam in.

736
00:41:26.550 --> 00:41:29.070
So the center of that is, is in water, but

737
00:41:29.329 --> 00:41:32.190
I was led to the center of a vortex by

738
00:41:32.269 --> 00:41:35.960
Sasquatch up in, in the Olympics. It took them two

739
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.360
years to get me there. You know, I just followed

740
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.300
tree breaks breaks and, you know, I just followed him

741
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.650
and followed him. And then finally, after two years. I

742
00:41:45.690 --> 00:41:49.690
got way up there, and I saw a tree with

743
00:41:49.710 --> 00:41:51.929
a bunch of rakes, and I thought, oh, this might

744
00:41:51.969 --> 00:41:56.130
be the place. So I set up my tent, and

745
00:41:56.510 --> 00:41:58.809
this was about noon. And they came, and they got

746
00:41:58.869 --> 00:42:02.070
so excited. They were yelling and making all kinds of noise,

747
00:42:02.110 --> 00:42:05.679
and I thought, wow. I mean, that's crazy because, first

748
00:42:05.820 --> 00:42:08.320
of all, it's midday, and there was a road crew

749
00:42:08.380 --> 00:42:12.719
working on the forest road like 200 yards away from

750
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.940
my site where I was camped. And so I thought

751
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:18.579
they're on their lunch break, all their equipment shut down.

752
00:42:18.619 --> 00:42:20.679
I know they can hear them. I just wonder what

753
00:42:20.699 --> 00:42:21.139
they thought.

754
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:22.440
Oh my goodness.

755
00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:27.050
So, so what you're at times, you're finding these vortexes

756
00:42:27.329 --> 00:42:30.349
out in the woods and, and when, when you get

757
00:42:30.449 --> 00:42:34.150
into the middle of these areas, you're then having encounters

758
00:42:34.170 --> 00:42:38.309
or you're having visual encounters or, or there's.

759
00:42:37.690 --> 00:42:40.960
Vortex, nothing happens, but they got into the middle of

760
00:42:41.019 --> 00:42:45.500
that reason. And the reason is okay. I didn't know

761
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:46.960
we were going to talk about this, but I had

762
00:42:46.980 --> 00:42:54.000
it just in case. The reason is, so the Montana

763
00:42:54.019 --> 00:42:58.440
Vortex is over here. Oh, boy. All right. I'm going

764
00:42:58.460 --> 00:43:02.280
to hold this up. Montana Vortex is over here, you know,

765
00:43:02.340 --> 00:43:02.900
off that way.

766
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:06.280
Oh, I think it's upside down, actually.

767
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:13.639
Oh, it was 441 miles to this, to the point where, well, actually, yeah,

768
00:43:13.900 --> 00:43:18.719
to the Olympics. Vortex, right? 441 was a very important

769
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.159
number for me because I'd had the number 327 for

770
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:26.429
a long time. I didn't know why. And then I

771
00:43:26.449 --> 00:43:29.909
started looking at this. I was compelled to look on

772
00:43:29.929 --> 00:43:36.710
Google Earth and take measurements and angles and stuff. You know,

773
00:43:36.750 --> 00:43:41.550
who does that? But I was. And I figured out

774
00:43:41.610 --> 00:43:45.909
that my house... is 57 miles from the center of

775
00:43:45.949 --> 00:43:49.860
the Olympic vortex. But it's at an angle of 114

776
00:43:49.860 --> 00:43:53.019
degrees from the Montana vortex. 57 plus 57 is 114.

777
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:55.920
What is 57? It's the radius of a 360-degree circle. Well,

778
00:43:55.940 --> 00:43:57.579
in this case, we're talking 360 miles, right? So, yeah.

779
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:13.219
And it cuts... it just cut 1.8 miles South of,

780
00:44:13.539 --> 00:44:16.960
of the center of the Seattle vortex and 57 miles

781
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:22.820
from it. As charted by Nick Nelson, but I think

782
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:24.900
he was off by 1.8 miles. I think it was

783
00:44:25.420 --> 00:44:30.840
right online. And the reason why I say that is just,

784
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:33.889
this happened just the other day. I was, I was inspired.

785
00:44:35.030 --> 00:44:38.050
I thought, you know, because I, at the time when

786
00:44:38.070 --> 00:44:41.250
this happened, I didn't have a, you know, any kind

787
00:44:41.269 --> 00:44:46.389
of way to, to do this. So I drew two

788
00:44:46.449 --> 00:44:52.960
circles around the Seattle vortex and the Olympic vortex.

789
00:44:53.579 --> 00:44:56.019
Can you put it a little bit higher? Sorry. Oh,

790
00:44:56.059 --> 00:44:57.099
just a little bit higher up.

791
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:03.460
Perfect. And then what happened is, is it formed the

792
00:45:04.019 --> 00:45:08.420
Vesca Pisces, you know, which is the, just the oldest

793
00:45:08.500 --> 00:45:11.739
symbol you can, you can find on, on earth. And

794
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:13.840
if you keep making circles, of course you make the

795
00:45:14.380 --> 00:45:17.860
flower of life and then you can make any configuration

796
00:45:17.900 --> 00:45:23.039
from that. So, uh, when I discovered that and I

797
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:27.460
get these buzzes from them, you know, like when they're close, uh, they'll,

798
00:45:27.739 --> 00:45:28.400
they'll buzz me.

799
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:29.920
It's from Sasquatch.

800
00:45:30.340 --> 00:45:33.739
It's a different than a chill. Yeah. It's a buzz. And, uh,

801
00:45:34.820 --> 00:45:36.960
when I discovered that the other day, I got a buzz.

802
00:45:38.019 --> 00:45:42.820
Can you, that's really, that's really fascinating. So, um, is that,

803
00:45:43.340 --> 00:45:45.989
can you describe what that feels like or is it

804
00:45:46.090 --> 00:45:48.110
a certain part of, of you?

805
00:45:48.150 --> 00:45:51.030
It's my whole body. My hair will stand up. Uh,

806
00:45:51.130 --> 00:45:53.690
people have seen my hair stand up when they've been

807
00:45:53.750 --> 00:45:57.090
cloaked and close. I've shown it to them, you know, uh,

808
00:45:57.730 --> 00:45:59.909
on camps, you know, on camp outs, you know, I've

809
00:45:59.949 --> 00:46:02.199
gotten a couple of them, uh, from the people from

810
00:46:02.260 --> 00:46:05.260
ocean shores. Uh, when I, a couple of those and,

811
00:46:05.739 --> 00:46:08.980
and one time someone was leaving, um, And she was

812
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.800
getting ready to leave. And I walked by her pickup

813
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.280
truck as she's loading it. And I got that buzz.

814
00:46:14.300 --> 00:46:16.800
And I told her, oh, they're right here. They're right here.

815
00:46:17.579 --> 00:46:20.800
They're right here. They're sticking with you. And I went

816
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.449
up to my car. I got something. And when I

817
00:46:23.489 --> 00:46:26.730
came back, it happened again. I showed everybody the hair

818
00:46:26.829 --> 00:46:31.949
standing up on my arms and my legs. So, yeah.

819
00:46:32.409 --> 00:46:34.449
So I think they send it to me. I don't

820
00:46:34.489 --> 00:46:37.349
think I just detect them that way. Because I know

821
00:46:37.389 --> 00:46:40.030
I've been close to them. And I haven't felt that,

822
00:46:40.349 --> 00:46:40.630
you know.

823
00:46:41.630 --> 00:46:42.030
Gotcha.

824
00:46:42.489 --> 00:46:44.940
And so just to make sure I'm on the right path.

825
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:48.300
So vortex and portal, not necessarily the same thing.

826
00:46:49.500 --> 00:46:53.519
Well, the portals are on the demarcation lines of the vortex. See,

827
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:57.829
like I showed you that circle, my house is sitting

828
00:46:57.869 --> 00:47:00.989
right on one of those circles. And that's a demarcation line.

829
00:47:01.489 --> 00:47:05.070
So my house is charged. All kinds of stuff happens here.

830
00:47:05.769 --> 00:47:09.869
And it turns out, It turns out, I think, well,

831
00:47:09.969 --> 00:47:11.989
I'm sure of it. They guided me to my house.

832
00:47:12.670 --> 00:47:16.440
I had two offers to buy this house. And I've

833
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.800
lived here for 41 years. Two offers to buy this

834
00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:21.920
house from two people that didn't know each other. And

835
00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:22.900
that's the only time that's happened.

836
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.000
Wow. Was that just recently or?

837
00:47:25.019 --> 00:47:27.170
That was 41 years ago.

838
00:47:27.909 --> 00:47:28.550
Oh, 41 years ago.

839
00:47:28.570 --> 00:47:29.849
Okay. Interesting.

840
00:47:31.590 --> 00:47:35.449
Okay. My goodness. The whole thing.

841
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.639
Bigfoot and portals thing. It's a thing that comes up in,

842
00:47:41.300 --> 00:47:43.699
it's come up a few times. Skinwalker ranch. They said

843
00:47:43.780 --> 00:47:46.659
they saw one come through one. There's the Dr. Matthew

844
00:47:46.699 --> 00:47:53.070
Johnson story about Oregon somewhere. That's a fascinating account. And

845
00:47:53.090 --> 00:47:56.150
then there's a BFRO. Well, there's an individual that was

846
00:47:56.250 --> 00:48:02.769
on a BFRO expedition and they wrote down the account

847
00:48:02.889 --> 00:48:07.340
of an individual that had a portal experience with a

848
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:11.389
Sasquatch on Saddle Blanket Mountain out in Oak Ridge, Oregon.

849
00:48:11.489 --> 00:48:15.579
So it comes up. It comes up at times, and

850
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:18.780
it's very, very interesting. I want to make sure– I

851
00:48:18.820 --> 00:48:21.059
know you have a list of all different things that

852
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:25.860
you've written down. Are there anything on that list that

853
00:48:25.900 --> 00:48:28.090
you would want to make sure that you share? Because

854
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:30.929
I could probably just ask you questions all day long,

855
00:48:31.010 --> 00:48:33.409
but I know you've got some important information.

856
00:48:33.429 --> 00:48:37.409
I've got 36 things on this list. Let's look right here.

857
00:48:37.889 --> 00:48:43.269
So we covered shapeshifting. Oh, numerous cloaking. So out hiking,

858
00:48:43.670 --> 00:48:46.730
you know, one day, and I believe this was my

859
00:48:46.769 --> 00:48:50.139
teacher as well. He's shown me most of his things.

860
00:48:50.739 --> 00:48:55.199
That's why I call him teacher. And I heard something.

861
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:58.500
I was hiking along and I heard something big coming

862
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:00.920
out of the brush. And I thought I spooked an elk,

863
00:49:01.139 --> 00:49:06.449
you know, or maybe a bear. But anyway, before I

864
00:49:06.570 --> 00:49:09.349
even got my head turned that far, it went by me.

865
00:49:10.590 --> 00:49:12.989
But I didn't see anything. but I felt the pressure

866
00:49:13.030 --> 00:49:19.969
on my face change. Big, massive. And then total silence.

867
00:49:20.409 --> 00:49:22.880
I stood there for two minutes, you know, to see

868
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.460
if I could hear anything or if he'd move or

869
00:49:25.980 --> 00:49:28.800
anything else would happen. Nothing happened. So I just went

870
00:49:28.820 --> 00:49:32.519
ahead on my hike. Wow.

871
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:39.280
That is some wild stuff. I mean, it's... You're right.

872
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:41.800
Once you are at the point where, and it sounded

873
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.659
like for you, it was, I just want to be friends.

874
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.730
You open yourself up. I mean, that's when, that's when

875
00:49:49.769 --> 00:49:52.849
you start experiencing stuff. Uh, it's, it's not when you're

876
00:49:52.869 --> 00:49:55.610
out there like, Hey, let's get, let's get the sounds recorded.

877
00:49:55.690 --> 00:49:58.469
Let's get the tracks recorded. That's you're not going to,

878
00:49:58.469 --> 00:49:59.269
you're not going to have it.

879
00:49:59.449 --> 00:50:01.050
Yeah.

880
00:50:01.070 --> 00:50:01.670
I don't know why.

881
00:50:02.670 --> 00:50:06.139
Well, you don't go into someone's house without being invited,

882
00:50:06.619 --> 00:50:10.489
you know? Sure. you ring the door, you knock on

883
00:50:10.510 --> 00:50:13.619
the door and then if they like it, they'll invite

884
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:17.199
you in, you know, uh, same, same thing with them. They,

885
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:21.039
they assess everybody. They, they can read your power or,

886
00:50:21.460 --> 00:50:24.510
you know, everybody has this energy. They can read your

887
00:50:24.550 --> 00:50:27.590
energy field and, and make a determination from that. I

888
00:50:27.650 --> 00:50:31.489
think is part of it. Uh, I'm not sure. I don't,

889
00:50:31.510 --> 00:50:34.409
you know, I don't know all these things, but, uh,

890
00:50:34.469 --> 00:50:38.559
that's just kind of a guess. Uh, Oh, yeah, there's

891
00:50:38.579 --> 00:50:42.159
something else I see. Telekinesis, yeah. So one time I'm

892
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:48.179
hiking out there, dead quiet, no wind, and I come

893
00:50:48.219 --> 00:50:51.179
to this pond, and it just starts to get turbulent.

894
00:50:53.139 --> 00:50:58.300
Kind of wild. So then a few days later, I

895
00:50:58.340 --> 00:51:00.090
go back out there again, and there was a tree

896
00:51:00.150 --> 00:51:03.250
pushed down right where I had that experience. So it was, yeah,

897
00:51:03.909 --> 00:51:06.530
it was us. You know, that's basically what they were saying.

898
00:51:07.289 --> 00:51:07.670
Okay.

899
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:13.900
I've also had one talk to me from behind a

900
00:51:14.099 --> 00:51:17.280
bush one time. That one I call CC. He's crazy.

901
00:51:19.489 --> 00:51:24.869
But that stands for Cedar Crow. But anyway, yeah, I

902
00:51:24.909 --> 00:51:28.389
went hiking. This was up in Wainuichi. And I started

903
00:51:28.409 --> 00:51:33.050
hiking from the dam. And I thought I heard a voice.

904
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:37.960
And I stopped and turned around and looked. And that's crazy.

905
00:51:38.420 --> 00:51:40.119
Maybe it was just in my head or whatever. I

906
00:51:40.139 --> 00:51:43.380
don't know. But glitch, you know. So I went hiking

907
00:51:43.900 --> 00:51:45.559
and I didn't come back for like two and a

908
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:50.019
half hours. And when I came back by that same bush,

909
00:51:50.460 --> 00:51:52.920
he talked to me again. It was just really low,

910
00:51:53.780 --> 00:52:01.949
you know, like that. Very low voice. And so I stopped.

911
00:52:02.170 --> 00:52:04.829
And at that time, this is early on. You know,

912
00:52:04.849 --> 00:52:06.789
I just figured out they were there and I didn't know.

913
00:52:07.409 --> 00:52:10.030
that there were more than one family there. I mean,

914
00:52:10.050 --> 00:52:14.690
there's like three families and a loner, you know, spread out.

915
00:52:15.429 --> 00:52:17.570
And they like to move from valley to valley. That's

916
00:52:17.590 --> 00:52:20.429
what I've discovered. Because I couldn't find them in one valley,

917
00:52:20.469 --> 00:52:22.210
so I go to the next valley. Then I go

918
00:52:22.230 --> 00:52:24.010
to the next valley, and there they are, you know,

919
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:29.699
all the way over to Lake Cushman staircase. So they're

920
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:33.639
spread out. But they kind of travel together. But anyway,

921
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:38.429
so I'm walking by. that Bush and I just put

922
00:52:38.449 --> 00:52:41.090
a heart up on my hand up on my heart.

923
00:52:41.110 --> 00:52:42.949
And I said, you know, I, I don't want to,

924
00:52:42.949 --> 00:52:45.300
I don't want to push myself on you guys. And

925
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.059
I don't want to, I don't want to disturb you.

926
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:51.199
I just thought maybe we'd be friends. And he took

927
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:55.099
it to heart. CC is a very good friend of mine.

928
00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:56.420
Very good friends.

929
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:01.110
So what were some things then that happened that, that

930
00:53:01.139 --> 00:53:05.530
made you realize that, okay, I asked him, let's, let's

931
00:53:05.570 --> 00:53:07.980
be friends. And he's definitely taken me up on that.

932
00:53:08.500 --> 00:53:12.980
Oh, well, uh, okay. Well, the next thing that happened

933
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:15.179
and she said, I wish I'd looked out the window,

934
00:53:15.739 --> 00:53:23.940
but I was in my tent, uh, near the lake, uh, actually, no,

935
00:53:23.980 --> 00:53:27.469
this was when I, when I knew G gotcha. Thank you. And, uh,

936
00:53:28.590 --> 00:53:30.289
I thought that I was going to, it was early

937
00:53:30.309 --> 00:53:34.130
in the season, you know, it was early April and the, the,

938
00:53:34.619 --> 00:53:38.480
The weather was really great. It was really warm. But

939
00:53:38.500 --> 00:53:41.480
it was also weekday. And I thought, well, nobody's going

940
00:53:41.500 --> 00:53:43.440
to come. I got it all to myself. I'm finally

941
00:53:43.460 --> 00:53:46.820
going to camp next to the lake because I usually

942
00:53:46.860 --> 00:53:50.280
don't because there's people, too many people, you know. Well,

943
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:54.030
I was wrong. These three girls come and they camp

944
00:53:56.389 --> 00:53:58.210
down from me on the road and I can actually

945
00:53:58.309 --> 00:54:01.469
see their tents from my place, you know, from where

946
00:54:01.530 --> 00:54:05.159
I'm at. And then another guy comes and he camps

947
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:11.469
beyond them. And so I just thought, oh, well, nothing's

948
00:54:11.489 --> 00:54:13.670
going to happen tonight, but I'll do my usual. I'll

949
00:54:13.690 --> 00:54:16.269
play my guitar. And in fact, I got some applause

950
00:54:16.309 --> 00:54:22.190
from the girls after I sang that song. But anyway, yeah.

951
00:54:22.530 --> 00:54:24.690
So then I go to bed. I'm laying in my tent.

952
00:54:25.929 --> 00:54:32.719
And I hear this male way up on a ridgeline,

953
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:38.469
you know, sounding like a juvenile. doing this chant, this

954
00:54:38.969 --> 00:54:42.550
four part chant. It's like he was like animals, but

955
00:54:42.630 --> 00:54:47.010
he was changing his, you know, each animal with each verbalization.

956
00:54:47.090 --> 00:54:50.829
So it was one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four. Well,

957
00:54:50.849 --> 00:54:54.510
that's most of my songs are, you know, four, four times.

958
00:54:54.550 --> 00:54:59.510
So it made sense. Right. Anyway. And I'm laughing about

959
00:54:59.550 --> 00:55:02.090
it because I'm thinking, God, I know those girls can

960
00:55:02.130 --> 00:55:04.760
hear that. I just wonder if they, have any idea

961
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:07.429
what that is. And then next thing I know, he's

962
00:55:07.449 --> 00:55:10.130
making a beeline at my tent, coming right down off

963
00:55:10.170 --> 00:55:14.289
the ridge, coming in. Oh, my gosh. And I wasn't

964
00:55:14.329 --> 00:55:19.780
prepared for that, you know. I actually, at that time, yeah,

965
00:55:19.820 --> 00:55:23.719
that was actually, at that time, I didn't know that

966
00:55:23.820 --> 00:55:27.960
that clam knew me, you know. I knew one clam knew,

967
00:55:28.460 --> 00:55:30.579
but I didn't know that clam knew, but I figured

968
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:33.239
out that was CC. So it must have been later

969
00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:35.579
that that that he talked to me from behind the bush,

970
00:55:35.619 --> 00:55:38.099
now that I think about it. But anyway, he came down,

971
00:55:39.139 --> 00:55:41.739
and I could, you know, hear him shuffling. He was

972
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:45.579
shuffling when he got into my campsite and doing the chant,

973
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:48.780
and he came around my Subaru, and I know he

974
00:55:48.969 --> 00:55:50.949
checked to see if I had my window open, my

975
00:55:50.989 --> 00:55:54.090
flap open on my tent is what I figured. And

976
00:55:54.130 --> 00:55:57.730
then he went back around the car or came right

977
00:55:57.769 --> 00:56:01.949
at my tent somewhere. I don't really remember whether he

978
00:56:01.989 --> 00:56:03.679
went around my car or not, but I think he did.

979
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:07.940
And the first thing I thought was he went and

980
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:10.559
checked to see if those girls were still up too. So,

981
00:56:10.659 --> 00:56:13.139
and they were all in their tents. So then he

982
00:56:13.179 --> 00:56:14.800
came right at my tent and I thought he was

983
00:56:14.820 --> 00:56:16.320
going to come right in front of my window. So

984
00:56:16.340 --> 00:56:19.030
I'm staring out my window, you know, and there was

985
00:56:19.070 --> 00:56:23.090
a blue, like the trees were blue from the full moon.

986
00:56:23.130 --> 00:56:27.030
It was just an awesome night, man. Unbelievable night. And

987
00:56:27.550 --> 00:56:29.880
he went behind my tent and there was hardly any

988
00:56:29.940 --> 00:56:31.599
room to go behind my tent. It was sucked up

989
00:56:31.659 --> 00:56:34.030
against a tree. But he went behind my tent, so

990
00:56:34.070 --> 00:56:37.440
I didn't even see his shadow. I just heard him

991
00:56:37.980 --> 00:56:41.780
go behind my tent. And I'm staring out the window.

992
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:43.590
But if I'd looked out the window earlier when he,

993
00:56:44.019 --> 00:56:46.739
you know, checked from behind the Subaru, I would have

994
00:56:46.780 --> 00:56:51.940
seen him from like 15 feet away. It's unfortunate that

995
00:56:51.980 --> 00:56:53.940
I didn't get up and look because I wished I

996
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:57.570
had now. But anyway, then he went all the way

997
00:56:57.610 --> 00:57:04.239
back up the ridge chanting that. An unbelievable voice. amount

998
00:57:04.260 --> 00:57:07.690
of endurance you know that it would take for a

999
00:57:07.730 --> 00:57:10.610
human couldn't do it that's for sure went all the

1000
00:57:10.630 --> 00:57:13.050
way back up on that ridge because those I mean

1001
00:57:13.070 --> 00:57:16.809
those hills there are very steep around Wainuichi.

1002
00:57:17.389 --> 00:57:20.440
Yeah I've heard that yeah it is a it's a

1003
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.539
different ballgame and you have um what's that there's a

1004
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:26.900
one pass out there there's always a ton of activity um.

1005
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:31.760
Snow calm no snow qualmy.

1006
00:57:32.110 --> 00:57:36.460
Oh yeah it's Yeah, that's actually north of Seattle or

1007
00:57:36.820 --> 00:57:40.260
east of Seattle, sort of northeast of Seattle, I think.

1008
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:41.070
Let me look real quick.

1009
00:57:41.489 --> 00:57:45.170
Maybe you're thinking Skokomish, which is also very active.

1010
00:57:45.869 --> 00:57:46.829
That might be it.

1011
00:57:47.170 --> 00:57:54.940
Yeah, that's actually northwest of Shelton. And that is very active.

1012
00:57:54.980 --> 00:57:59.159
And yes, they're there. They come there periodically. You know,

1013
00:57:59.699 --> 00:58:06.090
they move around. And I think for resources, you know, Uh, yeah. Uh,

1014
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:08.550
there's something else I wanted to talk about that too,

1015
00:58:08.590 --> 00:58:12.110
that same clan. So I named them all up there. Well,

1016
00:58:12.650 --> 00:58:15.590
the ones that interact with me anyway, there's Jacques and

1017
00:58:15.610 --> 00:58:18.190
Peter and CC, and then there's a young one, Alice.

1018
00:58:18.789 --> 00:58:21.630
One night I'm playing the guitar and first I play

1019
00:58:21.650 --> 00:58:25.070
the drum and I, I put the drumstick, you know,

1020
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:26.940
I got a little thing that you put the drumstick

1021
00:58:26.980 --> 00:58:29.840
so it doesn't fall out readily. And then I, I

1022
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.659
leaned it up against the cedar, this fallen cedar that

1023
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:36.070
was there. And I told him, I sent him a message.

1024
00:58:36.130 --> 00:58:39.409
I'm not going to open my eyes. And I got

1025
00:58:39.469 --> 00:58:42.989
rock clacks that night too. But anyway, I said, I'm

1026
00:58:43.010 --> 00:58:45.329
just going to sit here and play my guitar. And

1027
00:58:45.349 --> 00:58:50.110
I hear someone coming over that, that laid down tree.

1028
00:58:51.150 --> 00:58:55.460
And then when it comes time to go, you know,

1029
00:58:55.500 --> 00:58:57.679
I grab my guitar and put it away in the

1030
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:00.739
chair and go over and grab my drum and check

1031
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:03.280
for the drumstick, make sure I got it. It's not there.

1032
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:07.429
So I turned on a flashlight and started looking for it.

1033
00:59:08.050 --> 00:59:12.449
It was nowhere to be found. I couldn't find it.

1034
00:59:12.739 --> 00:59:15.019
So then I thought, well, okay, it's dark. Maybe it

1035
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:17.420
fell somewhere. I don't know. I'll come back early in

1036
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:19.409
the morning. So as soon as it got started getting

1037
00:59:19.429 --> 00:59:22.070
light out, I booked it over there. You know, no

1038
00:59:22.369 --> 00:59:25.510
tourists or anybody are going to find it first. So

1039
00:59:25.550 --> 00:59:28.449
I went over there and looked and it was gone.

1040
00:59:29.219 --> 00:59:31.940
And I believe that was Alice that took my drumstick.

1041
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:34.739
I don't know why I have that feeling, but I

1042
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:38.130
named her Alice because she's in Wonderland. That's awesome.

1043
00:59:38.469 --> 00:59:43.590
Um, I would say, Oh, maybe it's half and half.

1044
00:59:43.889 --> 00:59:46.789
A lot of people I talk to, they actually have

1045
00:59:47.389 --> 00:59:50.369
brought up that when they start to have these conversations

1046
00:59:51.250 --> 00:59:56.559
that the Sasquatch, it's usually something to the effect of, um,

1047
00:59:57.250 --> 00:59:59.750
either they want to share their name or they ask

1048
00:59:59.789 --> 01:00:02.489
what their name is. Uh, and then the Sasquatch will

1049
01:00:02.530 --> 01:00:03.130
share their name.

1050
01:00:03.219 --> 01:00:04.730
Has that ever happened to you or.

1051
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:08.800
Is it where you are regularly naming them? Yeah. Possibly

1052
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:11.760
from behind the bush you did, but yeah, no, I

1053
01:00:11.780 --> 01:00:13.739
got a lot of names for them and I've never

1054
01:00:13.780 --> 01:00:17.010
heard that. I'd like to know. It would be cool

1055
01:00:17.030 --> 01:00:19.670
to know some of their names. Yeah.

1056
01:00:20.550 --> 01:00:23.230
That's really interesting. Do you have any thoughts about, um,

1057
01:00:25.309 --> 01:00:28.969
telepathy or in the community, it's usually called mind speak

1058
01:00:28.989 --> 01:00:29.690
or anything like that.

1059
01:00:30.829 --> 01:00:32.909
I've heard just a little bit of it. You know,

1060
01:00:32.929 --> 01:00:35.989
I remember once I was hiking somewhere and for some

1061
01:00:36.030 --> 01:00:40.639
reason I felt uncomfortable there, you know? And so I thought,

1062
01:00:40.739 --> 01:00:44.260
am I okay? We're watching over you. You know, I

1063
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:47.739
got something similar like that. I'm paraphrasing. I can't exactly remember,

1064
01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:51.780
but I, you know, but I got this, this voice.

1065
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:56.550
But I've had them visit me in dreams. This happened

1066
01:00:57.570 --> 01:01:03.809
last year, 2025, in July, I think. We went, might

1067
01:01:03.829 --> 01:01:06.409
have been June. Anyway, doesn't matter. We went up to,

1068
01:01:07.590 --> 01:01:12.250
on Forest Road near Rainier. And I, Russell was with

1069
01:01:12.269 --> 01:01:18.429
me that time, my friend Russell. And we'd set up camp.

1070
01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:22.000
It was on a Saturday. So, you know, those mountains,

1071
01:01:22.059 --> 01:01:24.139
all the tourists and stuff come up there, you know.

1072
01:01:24.590 --> 01:01:27.550
but it was before anybody had gotten up there. Uh,

1073
01:01:27.570 --> 01:01:31.530
it was about a quarter to noon and this, we

1074
01:01:31.550 --> 01:01:36.789
started hearing some Sasquatch call and then this female matriarch

1075
01:01:36.949 --> 01:01:40.809
started to call and it was operatic, man. It was crazy.

1076
01:01:40.869 --> 01:01:42.989
I didn't have any of my recording gear turned on yet.

1077
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:46.119
And she just went off for about, again, for like

1078
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:50.960
12 or 13 seconds doing this wild call. And, uh,

1079
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:53.900
I turned to look at Russell and we just looked

1080
01:01:53.940 --> 01:01:57.119
at each other and went, wow, never heard anything like that.

1081
01:01:57.179 --> 01:02:01.559
It's my favorite call of all time. So that happened

1082
01:02:02.489 --> 01:02:10.090
that night. They did come into the camp site. I

1083
01:02:10.130 --> 01:02:11.349
had to get up and pee in the middle of

1084
01:02:11.369 --> 01:02:13.849
the night. So I got up and I'm peeing. Russell

1085
01:02:13.869 --> 01:02:15.429
doesn't sleep very well. So he heard me get up

1086
01:02:16.340 --> 01:02:18.079
and he heard me get back in. And then he

1087
01:02:18.099 --> 01:02:21.480
heard me start snoring. And he said, Ben, someone started

1088
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:26.739
playing with a zipper on your tent, rolling the zipper

1089
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:35.389
up and down. But also, also we had, we had some, uh, jalapeno, uh, Cheetos, uh,

1090
01:02:35.590 --> 01:02:38.170
hot ones. Anyway, I don't know if they're jalapeno or what,

1091
01:02:38.250 --> 01:02:41.329
but anyway, they're Cheetos, they're hot ones. And, and the

1092
01:02:41.369 --> 01:02:43.929
bag was just barely touched, you know, and it was

1093
01:02:44.030 --> 01:02:48.010
open and we'd left it out by accident actually, you know, because,

1094
01:02:48.369 --> 01:02:50.489
They stopped taking my gifts, so I just figured they

1095
01:02:50.510 --> 01:02:54.570
must just like the guitar, you know. But anyway, the

1096
01:02:54.610 --> 01:03:00.300
next morning the bag was empty. And then a couple

1097
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:03.940
days later, a couple nights later, I had a dream.

1098
01:03:05.340 --> 01:03:10.199
I was standing on a road up there, and she,

1099
01:03:10.619 --> 01:03:15.889
the matriarch, came walking down a spur. And when she

1100
01:03:15.929 --> 01:03:18.909
was approaching, I went, hello. Hello. And she just kind

1101
01:03:18.949 --> 01:03:21.710
of looked at me, but hardly at all. It was

1102
01:03:21.730 --> 01:03:24.449
just kind of a quick glance. Walked right by me,

1103
01:03:25.090 --> 01:03:27.909
like I could reach out and touch her. Walked right

1104
01:03:27.949 --> 01:03:29.909
by me. And when she went by, I went, I

1105
01:03:29.949 --> 01:03:34.199
love you. And then she walked into the woods. And

1106
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:37.039
that was a visit. I know that was a visit.

1107
01:03:37.099 --> 01:03:41.179
I've had even shared dreams of them. So they come

1108
01:03:41.219 --> 01:03:41.840
to you in dreams.

1109
01:03:42.420 --> 01:03:45.760
What's a shared dream? That's a new one for me.

1110
01:03:46.150 --> 01:03:49.010
Okay, well, that's where you have it. And someone else

1111
01:03:49.050 --> 01:03:50.469
has the exact same dream.

1112
01:03:50.989 --> 01:03:51.449
Oh, sure.

1113
01:03:52.690 --> 01:03:56.099
This happened, but I didn't even know this woman, which

1114
01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:58.139
is weird. But it was her friend that told me

1115
01:03:58.179 --> 01:04:01.800
my friend had the same dream. And it was so crazy.

1116
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:05.719
You know, you know, it's not, you know, a dream.

1117
01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:10.610
It's a visitation. And in that case, I was camping

1118
01:04:10.769 --> 01:04:15.860
out and they came. And this is CC for you.

1119
01:04:16.190 --> 01:04:18.610
but Jacques and Peter came and they started calling to

1120
01:04:18.650 --> 01:04:23.510
me very softly. I'm actually in a regular camp ground,

1121
01:04:24.070 --> 01:04:26.670
but there's like three loops and I'm in one loop

1122
01:04:27.110 --> 01:04:29.190
and there were, there was a couple in another loop,

1123
01:04:29.889 --> 01:04:31.809
but I didn't know if they were still there or not. Right.

1124
01:04:32.269 --> 01:04:34.710
And they start calling to me and I'm standing there

1125
01:04:36.050 --> 01:04:38.929
facing them, but you know, they're like a hundred yards

1126
01:04:38.989 --> 01:04:41.710
away and it's dark and I couldn't see them, but

1127
01:04:41.750 --> 01:04:43.929
it was kind of cool. It was right after I, well,

1128
01:04:43.989 --> 01:04:46.460
actually I was playing my guitar. and took a break

1129
01:04:46.500 --> 01:04:47.980
and that's when they started calling. So I put my

1130
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:52.260
guitar down and turn and face them. And then CC

1131
01:04:52.300 --> 01:04:54.900
joins them. And then it gets really hyped up. It

1132
01:04:54.940 --> 01:04:57.460
got crazy. And I got kind of a little bit

1133
01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:02.409
of adrenaline rush, you know, it was really extreme. I

1134
01:05:02.449 --> 01:05:06.090
have gotten very few of those, but, uh, I sent

1135
01:05:06.130 --> 01:05:08.809
him a message. I said, wow. I said, that was

1136
01:05:08.869 --> 01:05:12.190
kind of over the top. It just kind of, you know,

1137
01:05:12.210 --> 01:05:15.909
got to me a little bit. I was, uh, And

1138
01:05:15.969 --> 01:05:19.210
so that night I'm in my tent and I feel

1139
01:05:19.250 --> 01:05:23.650
these hands coming right through the tent and huge hands

1140
01:05:24.769 --> 01:05:26.210
going under me and picking me up.

1141
01:05:26.250 --> 01:05:26.489
Right.

1142
01:05:27.010 --> 01:05:29.170
And of course, I get scared. I mean, I just

1143
01:05:29.210 --> 01:05:34.579
got this huge adrenaline rush and I'm I'm I got paralysis,

1144
01:05:34.619 --> 01:05:38.440
sleep paralysis, so I can't move. And and I hear

1145
01:05:38.460 --> 01:05:42.699
this voice and it goes, Russell, calm down. And I

1146
01:05:42.739 --> 01:05:48.809
felt the fear drain. Down and out. I disappeared at

1147
01:05:48.829 --> 01:05:52.530
my toes. Just the weirdest feeling. But then it was gone.

1148
01:05:52.550 --> 01:05:55.320
I was all calm. They picked me up and we

1149
01:05:55.340 --> 01:06:00.719
faced each other. We had a conversation and then I

1150
01:06:00.780 --> 01:06:03.900
talked out loud. You know, we had a telepathic conversation

1151
01:06:03.940 --> 01:06:06.300
and then I talked out loud and I said, gee,

1152
01:06:06.619 --> 01:06:09.099
I feel so lucky to have you as a friend,

1153
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:14.309
you know. And then he got so happy. He started

1154
01:06:14.329 --> 01:06:15.650
whining like a puppy dog.

1155
01:06:16.070 --> 01:06:19.340
And licking my face. And at the time I'm just

1156
01:06:19.380 --> 01:06:22.840
laughing because it just seems so funny, you know, to me.

1157
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:27.519
And then as licking my face, I wake up and

1158
01:06:27.539 --> 01:06:28.800
I go, wow, that was weird.

1159
01:06:30.099 --> 01:06:34.269
And then three of them about 50 yards away, start, start, uh,

1160
01:06:35.429 --> 01:06:40.829
singing kind of, you know, with these animals sounds really

1161
01:06:40.889 --> 01:06:44.789
cool sounds, mostly owl, you know? Uh, but I think

1162
01:06:44.809 --> 01:06:47.510
there was some crow there and, you know, it was,

1163
01:06:47.969 --> 01:06:52.730
it was, it was awesome. And then later I'm talking

1164
01:06:52.750 --> 01:06:55.289
to a lady and I told her that story and

1165
01:06:55.329 --> 01:07:00.110
she says, my friend had that same dream where she was,

1166
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:02.929
he whined like a puppy dog and was licking her face.

1167
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:05.059
Oh, no way. That's wild.

1168
01:07:05.500 --> 01:07:06.539
So that's a shared dream.

1169
01:07:07.699 --> 01:07:08.079
Wow.

1170
01:07:08.460 --> 01:07:08.679
Yeah.

1171
01:07:09.420 --> 01:07:10.380
That is incredible.

1172
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:13.119
I never met that lady, but I guess she lives

1173
01:07:13.219 --> 01:07:16.840
up in, you know, like squim or, port angeles.

1174
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:22.139
Somewhere okay sure sure sure uh man wild wild so

1175
01:07:22.989 --> 01:07:25.429
there's a thought i i wanted to address just real

1176
01:07:25.489 --> 01:07:29.869
quick to the side so because your your whole journey

1177
01:07:30.090 --> 01:07:34.090
over the last almost 20 years is fascinating but it

1178
01:07:34.150 --> 01:07:38.070
sounds like you really were learning as you went along

1179
01:07:38.110 --> 01:07:40.889
like you didn't have a mentor in the beginning you're

1180
01:07:41.070 --> 01:07:43.739
you're just learning so Your story is like very close

1181
01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:47.019
to like Tom Cantrell where like for the longest time,

1182
01:07:47.420 --> 01:07:49.610
he didn't know anyone else. Like you had Russell, but

1183
01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:51.769
you didn't have like a whole community behind you. You

1184
01:07:51.789 --> 01:07:53.449
were just figuring it out yourself, right?

1185
01:07:53.590 --> 01:07:56.210
Well, yeah, I kind of went away from the community.

1186
01:07:56.329 --> 01:08:01.289
You know, I reported my very first interaction and BFRO

1187
01:08:01.349 --> 01:08:04.869
wanted to come down and get involved. And for some

1188
01:08:04.909 --> 01:08:07.429
reason I thought, no, I'm not supposed to do that.

1189
01:08:08.659 --> 01:08:10.059
And so I told him, no, thanks.

1190
01:08:11.170 --> 01:08:14.530
And so this is one, you know, I, I will

1191
01:08:14.570 --> 01:08:18.010
probably listen to our conversation a few times. Uh, there's

1192
01:08:18.050 --> 01:08:21.090
a lot to take away from this. One of the

1193
01:08:21.130 --> 01:08:23.890
main things I'm telling you, you are traveling all over

1194
01:08:23.930 --> 01:08:28.369
the Pacific Northwest and having experiences. I can't really think

1195
01:08:28.409 --> 01:08:31.850
of someone, anyone else that's that's traveled, like you're traveling

1196
01:08:33.010 --> 01:08:33.770
all over the place.

1197
01:08:34.289 --> 01:08:36.390
Um, which is over 30 areas. I've had interactions.

1198
01:08:36.390 --> 01:08:40.199
30 areas.

1199
01:08:40.460 --> 01:08:41.000
Oh, my goodness.

1200
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:43.039
Well, I'm not even sure how many.

1201
01:08:43.939 --> 01:08:47.109
I would imagine. So, you know, let's talk. Your book

1202
01:08:47.170 --> 01:08:49.750
is Sasquatch Shaman of the Woods.

1203
01:08:50.289 --> 01:08:50.510
Yes.

1204
01:08:50.609 --> 01:08:55.750
And so what can people, if, you know, pick up

1205
01:08:55.789 --> 01:08:59.390
a copy, what can they expect to find in that book?

1206
01:09:00.020 --> 01:09:00.899
Book that you've written?

1207
01:09:01.189 --> 01:09:03.880
Well, it's my journey. You know, it starts out, you know,

1208
01:09:03.899 --> 01:09:06.439
but I didn't know what was going on, you know,

1209
01:09:07.359 --> 01:09:10.319
just trying to find my way and hoping to just

1210
01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:14.739
maybe get a footprint or something, you know, just anything.

1211
01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:19.880
So it starts from that. And then slowly, all this

1212
01:09:19.939 --> 01:09:26.239
other stuff begins to happen. And yeah, that's just some

1213
01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:31.300
of it. I mean, but that's a good, that's a

1214
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:31.760
good start.

1215
01:09:32.770 --> 01:09:33.199
Fascinating.

1216
01:09:33.229 --> 01:09:36.470
So I'm guessing like the conversation we had today just

1217
01:09:36.590 --> 01:09:39.550
scratches the surface. And if you want more of that,

1218
01:09:39.789 --> 01:09:42.569
definitely pick up a copy of the book. We'll have,

1219
01:09:43.949 --> 01:09:46.449
we'll have a link to it in the show notes

1220
01:09:47.140 --> 01:09:50.090
for the episode. So, so people can, is the best

1221
01:09:50.130 --> 01:09:51.770
place to get that on Amazon or is there a

1222
01:09:51.789 --> 01:09:53.409
place you'd rather people check out?

1223
01:09:53.510 --> 01:09:54.949
I'll just get it on Amazon. Okay.

1224
01:09:54.970 --> 01:09:58.020
That's fine. All right. Cool.

1225
01:09:58.039 --> 01:09:59.539
Cool. But places like that.

1226
01:09:59.960 --> 01:10:00.359
Gotcha.

1227
01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:06.260
Russell, what, what a fascinating conversation, man, we will have

1228
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:09.470
to keep in touch because you definitely have a cool

1229
01:10:09.510 --> 01:10:13.489
way of, of looking at things over the years. Are

1230
01:10:13.510 --> 01:10:16.670
there any other things that, you know, if people are

1231
01:10:16.689 --> 01:10:19.529
wanting to, to, is there a way for people to

1232
01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:21.680
reach out to you or you mentioned you have a

1233
01:10:21.699 --> 01:10:23.439
YouTube channel, anything like that else?

1234
01:10:23.460 --> 01:10:26.399
Yeah. I do have a YouTube channel and it's called

1235
01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:29.979
Sasquatch Shaman of the Woods. So you can just go

1236
01:10:30.020 --> 01:10:34.239
to that on YouTube and I'm just starting to put

1237
01:10:34.279 --> 01:10:37.739
stuff on there. I'm so busy doing stuff that I

1238
01:10:37.779 --> 01:10:40.199
have a tough time. I really want to be a filmmaker,

1239
01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:42.500
but I don't have time. I just never had time

1240
01:10:42.539 --> 01:10:44.770
to edit and do that kind of thing, you know,

1241
01:10:44.819 --> 01:10:47.840
because I'm involved in so many things, you know, music and,

1242
01:10:48.289 --> 01:10:51.590
the playhouse and I'm building a shack for my sister

1243
01:10:51.630 --> 01:10:55.100
right now, that kind of thing. So yeah, it's hard

1244
01:10:55.140 --> 01:10:59.479
to keep up with everything, but yeah. So look that

1245
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:02.539
up on YouTube and I got, I know I got

1246
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:04.739
the feather one on there where I got the feather.

1247
01:11:05.100 --> 01:11:07.569
So you'll see the log and the feather sticking in

1248
01:11:07.590 --> 01:11:10.289
the middle of the log. And like I said, that's

1249
01:11:10.329 --> 01:11:12.350
a short version, but I'm going to put a longer

1250
01:11:12.390 --> 01:11:15.149
version on there, but I'm also going to put some

1251
01:11:16.170 --> 01:11:20.310
archive stuff that, you know, that I've never shared on there.

1252
01:11:20.369 --> 01:11:25.800
I got so many vocals and, you know, stuff like that.

1253
01:11:27.229 --> 01:11:27.880
That's awesome.

1254
01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:30.779
So I'll have that link in the show notes as well.

1255
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:32.960
People can check that out. Make sure you're subscribed to

1256
01:11:33.020 --> 01:11:35.939
Russell's channel, but thank you so much for coming on

1257
01:11:35.979 --> 01:11:39.000
the show and for sharing a bit of your journey

1258
01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:42.520
with us, Russell. And we'll definitely be keeping in touch,

1259
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:43.979
but thank you again for coming on.

1260
01:11:44.500 --> 01:11:46.159
I thank you so much for this.

1261
01:11:48.100 --> 01:11:50.359
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1262
01:11:50.420 --> 01:11:53.659
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1263
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:57.430
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1264
01:11:57.470 --> 01:12:00.350
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1265
01:12:00.369 --> 01:12:03.590
a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1266
01:12:03.630 --> 01:12:07.050
to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something

1267
01:12:07.130 --> 01:12:10.739
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI,

1268
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:14.399
a federal agency, or working intelligence, and you stumbled upon

1269
01:12:14.500 --> 01:12:17.140
something you're not allowed to talk about, And if you're

1270
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:20.779
a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard

1271
01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:24.359
screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're

1272
01:12:24.380 --> 01:12:28.140
in the logging industry on a remote oil field or

1273
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:31.520
a trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen

1274
01:12:32.260 --> 01:12:35.359
that you've never told a soul, and if you're a biologist,

1275
01:12:35.510 --> 01:12:39.310
a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who

1276
01:12:39.350 --> 01:12:42.710
has found evidence you're not allowed to report, if you're

1277
01:12:42.729 --> 01:12:45.850
a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat,

1278
01:12:46.470 --> 01:12:49.229
and you saw something that shook your faith, or if

1279
01:12:49.250 --> 01:12:53.189
you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or anything with clearance,

1280
01:12:53.829 --> 01:12:57.510
and you've seen what the public hasn't, then I want

1281
01:12:57.590 --> 01:13:02.460
to talk to you. Even if it's anonymous, you can

1282
01:13:02.500 --> 01:13:07.039
reach me at bigfootsociety at gmail.com. The world needs to

1283
01:13:07.100 --> 01:13:10.960
hear what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're

1284
01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:13.420
not alone. You've got the story.

1285
01:13:14.979 --> 01:13:17.920
We've got the mic. See you in the woods.

1286
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:20.590
Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot

1287
01:13:20.619 --> 01:13:23.689
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1288
01:13:23.729 --> 01:13:26.859
world is bigger and stranger than we think and that

1289
01:13:26.899 --> 01:13:29.340
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1290
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:32.840
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1297
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1298
01:13:53.189 --> 01:13:56.149
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1299
01:13:56.189 --> 01:14:00.489
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1300
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1306
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1307
01:14:26.100 --> 01:14:28.470
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1308
01:14:28.510 --> 01:14:29.010
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1309
01:14:29.289 --> 01:14:30.109
And see you in the woods.