I Got Zapped in Yellow River / Iowa Bigfoot with Bob Barhite

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Welcome to Bigfoot Society. In this
episode, I talked to Bob Barrheight,

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a Midwest Bigfoot researcher. It's the
first time that Bob's ever been interviewed on

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with the show, all right.
Big the side of the privilege of talking

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to mister Bob Barrheight today. He's
a Midwist based Bigfoot researcher with the BFRO

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and It's a pleasure to talk to
you tonight, Bob. Oh, that's

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my pleasure. Sounds like this is
going to be fun. Oh yeah,

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it's gonna be a good one.
You know. I'm I'm based just outside

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of West and Moines, kind of
western Iowa, so there's not many people

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to talk to you out there about
Iowa in midwest Bigfoot, and we have

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a mutual connection. I think we
both know Ontario Richardson. Yes, so

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we we had a nice chat during
our last expedition about your name came up

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a few times, so I was
like, I've got to talk to Bob

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if I can, If I can
do that eventually. So I'm glad that

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this happened. But Bob, you
know, I'd love to ask you,

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what was it that Gotha into this
whole wild Bigfoot thing to begin with the

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legend of Boggie Creek. I saw
that when it first came out with my

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group of friends and we slept for
two days with the lights on, and

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it was awesome. I think we
were eight years old, maybe ten,

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something like that, but it was
wonderful. And then we used to order

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books once a month through our grade
school Scholastic Reader and They had tons of

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bigfoot books and UFOs and sharks,
and I still have a bunch of them

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too to this day. But I
was hooked. It was a lot of

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fun reading it. And I had
the opportunity in a speech class my sophomore

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year in high school to interview a
guy up in Northeast dial where I grew

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up. He must have been pushing
eighty. They didn't even have running water

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in the house. He had a
siding back in the depression, so it

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was about forty five years before I
interviewed him. He had one on his

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farm. It was really cool to
talk to this guy. Wow, that

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was Northeast Iowa, right yep,
up in the northeast corner. Oh man,

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do you remember many details about that? Absolutely. He was out clearing

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stumps in spring and there is a
stump on the edge of his field that

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he didn't recognize and was right where
there's a bunch of woods, and he

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started driving his tractor over to it, and the stump got up and walked

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away. He said it was all
brown and he thought it was just some

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hobo, but it was too big. My history's a little rusty, but

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this is twenties. I think it
was about thirty one, okay, thirty

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two when he saw it. There's
a lot of Bigfoot stuff up in the

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Northeast, as people may be aware
if they've you know, if you've watched

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the Finding Bigfoot Iowa episode, then
you know about Yellow River and all that

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good stuff. Was this in an
area where it's still known for Bigfoot to

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this day or was it kind of
like a one off? No, it's

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an area north of Yellow River,
I think, fairly close to French Creek

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and back in the woods in there. So yeah, it's it's still active.

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Interesting And then so after you did
that, did things just keep escalating

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and you were like, wow,
this is kind of interesting or well then

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so that was my sophomore year in
high school, which would have been seventy

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nine. Life kind of took over
and I saw the show Finding Bigfoot and

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went out to the website and my
guy, you know, they had expeditions

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and I signed up for the first
one in twenty twelve. So that's the

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first time I really ever did anything
with the bfroo hold on, hold on,

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by I'm missing a big connection here
that I just realized. So this

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is seventy nine that you interviewed a
guy about Bigfoot in northeast Iowa. And

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so do you mind if I asked, like, where you're based out of

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at this time? This time is
over in the Driftless region just west of

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Madison. Okay, so you're in
Wisconsin or Iowa. I'm in Wisconsin.

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I grew up in wakan walk On, Iowa, not too far from where

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like Yellow River, French Creek,
Upper Iowa River all that. Okay,

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So at this time, did you
have any connections with guys that were also

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interviewing people in Iowa. No?
Oh, so there's this big gap of

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time. You know, we had
kids, moved all over the country,

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lived out in Oregon for a while, but the Bigfoot thing really never came

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up. And moved back to the
Midwest in nineteen ninety eight, and you'd

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hear a little flashes. My sister
still lives in wakan so you know she

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mentioned something about Bigfoot or like,
you know, your friends still see it

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once in a while. Yeah,
sure, okay, And I just got

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curious most the show hit in early
twenty teens. Right around that that I

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just you know, started watching it, and yeah, it was. It

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was a lot of fun. The
reason I brought that that question up.

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Is that this at the same time
pre so one of my really like I

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guess you could almost say my Roman
empire is nineteen seventies Bigfoot Iowa history.

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Yeah, it's wild. So at
the same time that you were having that

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interview, there was a group of
guys in Iowa called the Iowa Bigfoot Information

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Center, and that's a whole side
thing, But it's kind of cool that

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you were doing your own thing.
You interviewed a guy about Bigfoot in seventy

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nine. At the same time,
there are a bunch of other dudes that

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we're looking into, things like the
Lockridge Monster case, other things in Southeast

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Iowa, the Palas siting, Humboldt
County sightings all. There's a lot of

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crazy stuff, as you're already probably
aware of. In the seventies in Iowa

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it got really crazy. But there's
other episodes that you can listen to listeners

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if you haven't where I talked about
that a lot. So finding Bigfoot gotcha

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all all into it, and then
after that you've really got into I mean,

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you got into quite a bit of
Bigfoot expeditions. It looks like your

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resume is pretty wild. I mean
you did stuff in Iowa. I want

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to say you did stuff in Minnesota, or it says throughout the Midwest in

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Oregon public in private expeditions. You've
been all over the place were they were

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they public expeditions out in Oregon.
Yeah, that was a public expedition in

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twenty thirteen on the south side of
Mount Hood. Wow, and that was

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really cool. We were following up
on a report this hunter and his son

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had. They were out scouting and
yeah, they were hassled for about five

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hours by a couple of bigfoots.
Can you elaborate what hassled would mean?

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Sure? Yeah. So they were
out archery hunting and they initially heard this

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nondescript mumbling and the dad described it
as like two mutes or two hard of

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hearing people trying to talk to each
other. And he went to sleep.

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The son heard footsteps around the tent
and he saw this hand pressed down toward

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his father's face. Dad was snoring
really loud, so he thought that the

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son thought that whatever it was outside
was curious. So the kid screamed and

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the kid, nineteen year old kid, screamed. The hand disappeared. Dad

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woke up, and that's when the
fund started because they could hear things walking

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around mumbling to each other. What
was really interesting is when the hand was

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pulled away. They both described the
sounds they heard is like the same sound

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that dad makes to his kid when
the kid does something dumb. So it

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was like a dad bigfoot was chastising
the small one or the youth bigfoot for

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putting his hand close to a person's
face. It finally ended when they both

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had to go to the bathroom and
they ran out. They went outside and

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the dad shined this flashlight and probably
twenty feet away there is a good eight

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foot tall bigfoot standing there. It
didn't move. All it did was turn

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its head and block the light with
his hands, and that's it. We're

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going. So they threw everything in
the back of their truck and they just

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raced away. Wow, that is
fantastic. Did you find anything when you

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guys went out there. Yeah,
we found a trackway behind where the base

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camp was. It had gone up
the side of the hill which was a

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kind of brush so you could see
the indentations, and then it came back

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down the others, back down to
this one track road two track road that

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it had been following. It looked
like the day before the expedition, before

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I got there, they had a
visual sighting out in a clear cut of

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a sasquatch standing on two trees jumps
and it didn't notice they were driving up

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on it coming around this logging road
until it was one hundred feet away.

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It saw it and it kind of
did like Chris Farley hop and then it

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just ran away. So they nicknamed
that one. Tommy Boy, that's the

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greatest thing I've heard in five years. Yeah. Yeah, it was plausible

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because I know the investigator pretty well
and we didn't have much go on until

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the last night of the expedition.
Then we had eye glow and there was

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something in the brush watching us because
we did this big cookout thing. And

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it was good. At the very
least. It was very scenic, and

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I really enjoyed meeting a whole different
group of people that I'm used to hanging

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out with. Absolutely. So that
was the Oregon trip, and then you've

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had it sounds like multiple expeditions in
the Midwest. Are there any things that

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stick out in your mind about things
you've experienced over the years from those Midwest

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expeditions that you could share. Oh
man, how much time do we have?

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All right? Yeah? Yeah.
The very first expedition I went on

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in twenty twelve. It was the
Wednesday before I normally we don't like people

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coming in really, but they allowed
me to come in. Got there about

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seven o'clock and got everything set up, and a couple hours later three of

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us went out to examine this horse
trail that they've always wanted to go on.

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So we walked the horse trail and
that it empties into the back of

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a field, the edge of the
field to where it drops down where a

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creek is. So we were just
hanging out there, and within two minutes,

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three minutes, really quick, we
all saw it at the same time,

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these two red glowing dots off to
our left and about ten o'clock high,

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so up above head height. And
over the course of about thirty seconds,

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those two dots slowly looked like it
went into the ground, moved left

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to right and then down and they
were really higher. Yeah, that's eye

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glow. We saw eye glow.
And we went back the next day because

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nobody could figure it out. Wyat
disappeared into the ground. We went back

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and whatever was there, you could
see where it grass had been pressed down.

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It walked down the side of a
gully, and that's how it made

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its escape away from us. Oooh, that's soiled. Within twenty minutes of

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the first time I ever went out, you know, it's like hitting a

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home run the first time here of
combat in the major leagues, there's been

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a lot of eye globe stuff going
on. We did an expedition up in

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Yellow River where there was a large
group and we got split. We were

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split up, and I was with
some seniors who were in a women's choir

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from Chicago, and we stopped and
let them catch their breath and they started

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singing and just talking. They you
know, breaking all the rules. We

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want some quiet, you know,
we want to see what's going on.

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So they're just talking away gap gap
gap, And from atop a hill right

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across from most these two white spots
appear really close together. And slowly it

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came down to hill toward us,
and the spots got you know, further

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apart, until you can see in
the center of the two white spots the

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black pupil or what appears to be
a pupil, and then there's eye glow

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that came around are left in our
right. So they're trying to out flank

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us. And that went on for
about twenty minutes. It was the most

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impressive display I've ever seen. So
you're it sounds like you're saying those those

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were eyes, right, it's our
understanding, And I know it's kind of

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hard to believe, but their eyes
somehow are in mid light. Yeah,

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I don't, you know, it's
not like it's a flashlight, although I've

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seen the flashlight effect before, but
I don't know. We're thinking that Lisa

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group. I'm with that it's a
way to communicate over distance without making a

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sound. So you know, one
bigfoot could be on one ridge and one

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on the other side and one eyes
go are white and kind of blank and

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like, oh, there's Fred over
there. Just a way to communicate and

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be silent. That is very interesting. You said that that was in I

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guess your first one was that in
Iowa. Yeah, the first one was

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in Fayette County. Oh yeah,
yep, okay, very nice. I

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talked to a gentleman a few years
ago and he shared what was the weirdest

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story that I've ever heard. One
of the weirdest stories I've ever heard.

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I've heard a few, but this
was out of Backbone in Iowa, and

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I'm just curious if you've ever heard
of it as well. There's a gentlemen

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who said that there was a group
of them and they saw like blue lights,

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blue orbs, and they were looking
at the oars and they looked behind

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them and there was a bigfoot that
was seemed to be controlling it. Is

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that anything that you've ever heard of. I haven't heard that, but and

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Backbone is such a great place.
Oh really, we did an expedition there.

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It was about this time. It
was about this time of year and

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last night of the expedition, and
it had been active. We had all

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kinds of tree knocks, we had
vocalizations. It was perfect. And there's

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an old fish hatchery in Backbone and
about twenty five about twenty five of us

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were there. We were just kind
of meeting up to see what was going

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to go on for the rest of
the night. And then there's this the

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loudest tree knock I've ever heard.
It was like a Verry Bombs home run

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within one hundred feet of us,
and you could hear everybody just gasp.

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And there was an investigator standing right
behind me and he about plowed me over

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trying to get out of there.
It was really just a spectacular noise.

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So, yeah, Backbone is a
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I believe I've heard like a lot
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get almost escorted out of the park
or yeah, yeah, we had that.

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So a group of three guys were
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park and one of them did a
whoop, and then off in the distance

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they heard the poop come back.
That's pretty cool. A couple of minutes

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later it was closer, another whoop. A couple of minutes after that,

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it was like right on top of
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season investigators, they just turned in
like bolted out because they it was spring,

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so they were thinking, well,
maybe it's mating season. Maybe we

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said, hey, baby, what's
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a fun way to go out,
I suppose, but I was right.

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So for among people that really care
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a lot of us, or at
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it seems like a question that always
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is more squatchy Backbone or Yellow River? I would say Yellow River, but

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personally, I haven't been over there
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out. We didn't exactly want to
give it up for finding Bigfoot because it

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had been so active. But you
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you can't really control who goes in
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do have a friend that occasionally goes
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the end of March and it was, at least in his opinion, it

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was starting to get active again.
There were tree structures, there were a

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couple of hoops. You know,
take it as you want, but yeah,

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he thinks it's becoming active again.
When you've been out looking, have

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you ever heard any sounds that don't
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which is a percussion instrument for jazz, and I use that for a tree

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dock. Having that mimic back at
me is a very specific ping, and

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I've never heard it outside of me
hitting the jam block and having it come

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back at me. That's just as
one example. We've had hoops which don't

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sound like, you know, like
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sound like a coyote or a wolf, for any other critter that lives in

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the woods. So those are unusual. I think the really unusual ones those

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when you do a knock and you
get that back, and then you do

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a couple more knocks and you get
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as well. Have you ever heard
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Yes? Really, thank you?
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that twice in Fayette County. First
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down in where I was where we
had the eyeglow, and we went back

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in there and we heard the car
radio effect, like chattering. But there's

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no radio anywhere near us. But
there's no road. Sorry, the car

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radio effect. I've never heard of
that before. Okay, it sounds like

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a distant car radio, but there's
no there's nothing around. There was no

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car where we were standing. It
would have to have been like a hundred

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watt like a mini who concert going
on for us to hear a car radio.

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Sure, there's no houses, there's
no other people in there that we

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knew of no of It just sounded
like somebody was playing music. You couldn't

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quite make out the words. And
then we heard chattering when we were checking

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out the same location about three years
later, right at the end of March,

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and we were walking up to the
main campsite and all along on our

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on one side, we kept hearing
sounded like a radio, like somebody was

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trying to talk on a radio to
us the whole way up to where we

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were going. It's just there's nobody
who had a radio on. Nobody had

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a walkie talkie. That's the best
way to describe it, as somebody's trying

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to talk to you man, Rusty
gate. Yeah, I've had that actually,

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not that far from Madison in Blue
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which is a small park, but
there's been I've had quite a bit

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of activity in there. I've had
stuff thrown at me and eyeglow and seeing

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shadows out in the distance on the
horizon moving around. But yeah, they

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sound like a gate swinging like you
described it. Now, do you have

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any explanations for that, because let's
say, I know this gets brought up

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in a few paranor like not so
much Bigfoot podcast, but paranormal ones,

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and they want to say like,
Okay, maybe it's a portal, maybe

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there's something dog man related. So
it kind of comes up sometimes in Bigfoot

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conversations as well. My hunch would
be that they're mimicking sounds as a diversion,

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trying to get our attention away from
something going on either behind us or

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off to one side. That's consistent
with having stealth thrown at me from behind

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that there's something more active, Like
it's like they want me to turn around

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and look at him because there's something
out in front of me they don't want

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me to see. Now, whether
it's like a juvenile or something else,

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But that's my feeling, that's my
suspicion. Another interesting thing that has been

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mentioned in two different parts of the
US recently. Eli Watson talks about it

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in an Olympic Project doc he just
did where it almost sounds like there's some

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sort of singing, and then Alton
Higgins also says that he heard that in

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the Area X area on their podcast. Is that anything that you've ever heard

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anything where it almost sounds like there's
some singing in the background or anything close

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to that, Yeah, that would
have been the radio effect. It just

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sounded like a distant car radio,
like there's a song on. We were

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conversing beforehand and you'd mentioned the Driftless
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that is northeast Iowa, a lot
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and a little bit of the southeast
corner of Minnesota. Is that correct?

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Correct? Yeah, And it goes
down into Illinois, like around Dubuque across

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the river in Galina on that side
too, but most of it's in northeast

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Iowa, southeast Minnesota, and especially
in Wisconsin. So a lot of listeners

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and I did this before I moved
out here too. You think of the

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midwestern Iowa as cornfields and the field
of dreams. It's important to know that

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places like the Driftless Region exist,
and would you to explain why that region

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is important, especially when it comes
to bigfoot research? Right, So,

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the Driftless region exists because the last
Rondic glaciers missed it. So instead of

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getting scraped down like western Iowa,
it's this area that's kind of lost in

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time. Steep hills, underfed streams. It's just amazing. It is heavily

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wooded, it has low population and
it has an abundance of food. You

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know, you've got deer, you've
got all kinds of fishing going on in

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the croud streams and the cornfields that
they still grow in there. You know,

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is a great place to go if
you don't want to be seen.

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You can follow rivers, you can
follow streams through the woods obviously and just

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never be seen by anybody. So
you have means of escape. So it's

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like if you're a bipedal, a
foot tall creature, creeter cretcher, if

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you're something like that, you want
to move and not be seen. Northeast

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Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota best place
to go. M The reports that come

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out of the northeast part of the
state are are wild and these are things

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that I get every once in a
while directly to me. I mean Debute

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County for sure. All the all
the time people are bringing up Debute County,

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little Macocoata River. It just sounds
like if all these people are legit,

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like there's a lot of action going
on in the Debute County area,

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right. I've helped investigate an area
just south of the Mines of Spain.

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It was great. We've gone in
there a couple of times. The investigation

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we were doing. It was a
father and his kids, and it was

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kind of lake fall. We were
standing on the side of a hill and

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there's this spot where these these couple
of boulders just you know, still sitting

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there, and we're all kind of
waiting around seeing what's happened. All of

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a sudden, we all see this
thing swirl and our first thought was it

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was an owl taken off, but
it was a branch about three feet in

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size, not like a baseball bet
and whatever through it had to throw it

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downward over the top of these boulders, which you're about six feet tall,

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something very tall through it. It
wasn't like a tree branch breaking because it

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twirled in the air, you know, like you throw a branch side arm,

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same effect. It swirled and landed
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there's been other sightings down in there. We've had the flashlight effect on our

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way out, which is like the
eyeglow is so strong that it's looking at

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a base of a tree and you
can see it and it looks like somebody's

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trying in a flashlight of the ground. Really, it's a great place and

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little MCCOCAA. The whole area up
there is it's a place that needs to

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be investigated more thoroughly than it is
right now. Have you ever heard of

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anything coming out of the Maccata Caves
area. Yeah, I've heard a couple

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of reports. I'm not sure if
they came in through the message board from

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the BFRO or if they were just
stuff that I've picked up on Facebook or

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other podcasts, but yeah, there's
been stuff that's happened in there. I've

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always meant to go and spend a
weekend down there, but that hasn't quite

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come to fruition yet. Gotcha.
There's a question that I want to make

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sure that I asked. This is
from Scott from the Patreon that it has

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to do with when you do investigations. When doing investigations, are there any

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techniques and cues that help establish the
integrity and truthfulness of the witness? Sure?

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Face to face contact is one embellishing
a story. So the more they

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tell it, the more details a
person remember, you know, adds to

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it. You before we even call
anybody this, you know, the sub

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submitted a report. We check out
the weather, we check out time of

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day, the location that they try
to give them the report. Sometimes they're

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very exact, sometimes they're not.
Just the veracity of the report, I

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guess, you know, because we
get all kinds. We get reports from

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people who I've got a sasquatch living
in my basement, Okay, thanks for

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letting us know all the way up
to people who've written like two or three

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pages in word and copied and pasted
into the report. And there's way too

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much detail for somebody to remember.
It reads more like a short story.

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the gentleman out in Oregon with his son

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and having talked to him and listen
to him tell the story, the body,

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his body language, how he reacted, how his son. You can

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see his son visibly become upset.
The ratest speech the guy was using as

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he was telling the story, and
the more details, you know, when

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he got into what was happening,
it was like his heart was increasing.

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He was speaking kind kind of like
this, like I am right now,

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where you just kind of start stop
and and have nerves that whatever happened to

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them, you know, it was
it shook them up. And then when

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we go into the location to do
a follow up investigation, is it plausible.

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I mean, do they see what
they see? What they saw again,

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based on time of day and the
weather conditions, and you know,

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Moon, I hope that answered the
question for him. I'd say that that's

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a really good answer for sure.
And a lot of that I'm like,

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yep, I know exactly what you're
what you're talking about, because it kind

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of goes over to when I talk
to people for this. You had mentioned

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that there was a situation where you
took a friend to an active location and

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then something kind of funny happened.
Oh yeah, so again that was in

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Blue Mountain State Park. It was
about nine o'clock at night, and a

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group of my like three people and
myself, a guy and his girlfriend,

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another guide me. We had dinner
together, and you know, they just

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go, there's no such thing as
bigfoot, and they're just kind of egging

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beyond. Let's go see what happened. Let's let's go see where you go.

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All right. It's about fifteen minute
drive when we were, and we

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park on the side of the road
and everybody gets out. Overcast night,

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a little bit of a chill in
the air, damp it had rained,

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and I do a high pitch poop
and immediately from the woods behind us,

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the poop comes back at us,
and from right in front of us.

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Whatever it was, mimke my hoop, my woop right back at us again,

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and they just piled it in the
car. Well, we got to

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go. It's like, come on, the show is about to begin.

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You know. They wanted to go, so I had to take them home.

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But it was that was fun.
That just man, that blows my

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mind. And you just you hear
situations like that over and over. It's

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like someone wants to get into the
situation and then something happens and they're like,

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we got to get out of here. It's like, dude, why

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did you even like And I mean
I get it. I've experienced some weird

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stuff in Iowa. I haven't well, let's see tree pushed over wood knocks,

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but I heard whoops in my tent. I guess nothing that would really

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scare me yet. I mean,
it was all really cool. But had

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it happened with a guy who acted
military. We were down in Fayette County

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and we were walking this dead end
road that goes to a bridge and we

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get to the spot where there's water
that trickles down the side of a hill,

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I think it would stop and I
tell him, you know, this

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is a spot where stuff usually happens. And he looks at the hill and

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said, what are all those white
lights looking at us? Oh? They're

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checking us out. He turns around
and wants to leave right away. I've

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seen it. Wow. Yeah.
I mean for some people that that is

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enough, you know, and they're
they're out. Have you ever had a

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situation where you've actually had a visual
or what do you feel that the closest

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you've been able to come to?
One? Would be good question. So

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when we did an expedition at Iowa
in I think it was twenty fourteen in

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Fayette County, we do a big
cookout. When we were doing this up

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by West Union, there's a park
that was built by a civilian conservation Corps

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during World War right before World War
Two, and everybody was in the shew

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and they were eating and having fun
and I was just standing out on the

406
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:10.400
periphery of it, just watching this
area down below us, and I saw

407
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:20.239
something very tall, all one color, stride between two trees and just stop.

408
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.320
And we knew where everybody was at
the time, so it wasn't anybody

409
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:31.360
in our group and it was uniform
in color, it was tall, and

410
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:37.760
it was thin. And this was
mid April, late April. Again,

411
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:46.000
to my satisfaction, Yeah, I
can say I've seen Sasquatch. I've had

412
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:53.039
shadows. I've been with another investigator
in Fayette County standing on a dead end

413
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:59.800
road for the and the bridge there, and we both have seen something big

414
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:04.320
and white move between a couple of
rocks on the river. So I've had

415
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:08.400
I haven't had the classic Patterson Gimlin
road crossing high how you folks do,

416
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:14.159
and I'm just look away type type
thing, but I've had, to my

417
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:21.920
satisfaction, i can say I've seen
something that I can't identify. M That's

418
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.599
that's really cool. Though maybe someday
I will get to that. We will

419
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:32.000
see. I just need to get
more out on the field. Another question

420
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:37.800
that comes up in Iowa big Foot
circles. Is everything good happens east of

421
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:45.360
Des Moines. How do you feel
about that? Well? Being from northeast

422
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:50.519
Iowa, yeah, I can see
that. I don't you know. I'm

423
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.400
more familiar with the eastern part of
the state, and I've driven to like

424
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:58.719
Gomaha and around there, and I
went to school in Amazon City, so

425
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:04.599
I it's not as heavily wooded.
It's more it's flatter. You still have

426
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:09.119
some rolling hills. I wouldn't say
that's one hundred percent correct, because as

427
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:15.519
you get closer to Missouri from Des
Moines, there's activity down there. So

428
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:20.840
we've had reports of rocks hitting cars. You know, people have been just

429
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:24.840
out, just stopped on the side
of the road and the sky had a

430
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:30.679
windshield cracked by a rock that cat
flung at him. Oh wow. So

431
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:36.000
I wouldn't say it's one hundred percent
accurate accurate that the good stuff happens east

432
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:39.400
to Des Moines. But definitely if
you're in Des Moines and you want to

433
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:45.000
check out stuff, find a county
park that's out in the middle of nowhere.

434
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:50.559
Just look for water and look for
trees. Google maps best friend.

435
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.320
You could have Yeah, that actually
leads to a good, quick, good

436
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:58.559
question. So and you may have
just answered that, what are your factors

437
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.519
you look for? If let's say
you're in a new area, new state,

438
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:06.960
and all you've got is like you're
using your map, what are the

439
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:12.440
main things that you're you're looking for
to find the places? I look for

440
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:16.599
a few roads, So not like
Western Iowa where you have crossroads about every

441
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:21.880
half mile, quarter mile or something
like that. So it's not checkerboard like

442
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:27.320
that. But you look for trees, you know, woods, You look

443
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:34.400
for water, and just like it's
a good example of the state forest up

444
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:42.519
in northern northern Wisconsin, you look
for areas where it hasn't been heavily clear

445
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:46.599
cut yet, where there's still older
trees fifty sixty seven year old trees that

446
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:52.239
haven't been cut down, but there's
ponds in it, for example, and

447
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:58.360
not very many people. And for
me, that's a good place to start.

448
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:04.119
Gotcha. Do you ever focus on
what the annual amount of rainfall is?

449
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:09.400
Not exclusively? I look more towards
when when does spring start coming in,

450
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.519
when does winter come in? What
are the temperatures? I've had activity

451
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:22.800
again at Blue Mount Stay Park in
Wisconsin during heavy drought, it's a constant

452
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:27.280
source of water. So if there's
no rain there, it's a lot harder

453
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.320
to find water. So you find
the water and wait for them. They're

454
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:37.880
going to show up. Sure,
has there ever been a time when you

455
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.239
were either like, you know what, this is too intense. If I

456
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.119
could get out of here right now, I would or have you ever heard

457
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:51.400
of anything reported to you from someone
else that was like Wow, If that

458
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.519
happened to me, I would be
like, I'm out. Well, I

459
00:39:54.559 --> 00:40:00.480
think the guy in Oregon they have
and a sun can stop that would I'm

460
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:05.280
out. Yeah, personally Fayette County
again, first time I ever went out

461
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:10.679
by myself, and it was a
Memorial Day weekend, and I got into

462
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:15.519
the park really late. It was
like eleven thirty already at night, and

463
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:20.440
I had to park and walk into
the same spot where I initially saw Igelow

464
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:24.679
the very first time I ever went
out and made my way down in there,

465
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.840
and I thought it was in there
like two or three hours. And

466
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:36.639
I got a videotape camera going an
old Sony with night vision, and I

467
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.199
hear something rustling to my left and
I look over and whatever it was,

468
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:45.840
it was kind of standing down in
a ravine, but it was almost my

469
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:51.480
height. And when I look at
the video, yeah, you can kind

470
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:52.679
of make out a face, but
you can definitely see the shape of the

471
00:40:52.679 --> 00:41:00.599
head and the eyes and I kind
of is swaying back and forth. And

472
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.679
sometimes the discretion is a better part
of valor. So I got out of

473
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:07.000
there really fast. Yeah, and
I went back, and when I did

474
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:12.559
watch the tape, I was only
in there maybe twenty minutes. But time

475
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.960
wise, when you're standing in kind
of like up against a pine tree,

476
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:23.440
time stops. Right. Yep,
you made the right choice probably getting out

477
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:30.039
of there. That that sounds pretty
pretty interesting with intense. Yeah. Have

478
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:37.000
you ever had any discussions with DNR
officials or the equivalent of such about bigfoot?

479
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:44.559
Yes, in Wisconsin, I had
a good DNR connection. They would

480
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:51.679
field reports and just put them in
a very equivalent of the a dead letter

481
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:57.440
office. Just put him in a
drawer, and he would give me some

482
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:00.480
you know, he'd give me the
better one ones or the ones that the

483
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:07.320
DNR themselves had. Specifically, it
was up around the Wisconsin Dells several years

484
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:12.199
ago. DNR guy out. He
found tracks about eight feet apart. So

485
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:19.400
something very tall walked through this freshly
maintained gravel road and you can easily see

486
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:23.519
the footprints. He said, huge
stride. Whatever it was was very tall.

487
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:29.559
Now you can't rule out basketball player
from the UW coming up to the

488
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:34.079
Dells, but they were. They
get reports, they don't follow up bottom

489
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:39.400
they'll let's put them away. How
does one go about starting that type of

490
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:46.840
connection, because that's an incredible thing
to have going on. I met him

491
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:53.960
through his wife. Well, we
would there's a place in Mount Horror,

492
00:42:53.960 --> 00:43:00.639
Wisconsin where we would go, you
know, spend the evening, and once

493
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:05.280
he got comfortable enough knowing me,
we had other hobbies that we enjoyed.

494
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:12.840
He's a big hockey fan. I
love hockey. He teaches snowboarding. I

495
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:17.159
don't snowboard. I just plummet.
We would chat and once he trusted me

496
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:22.119
enough, he started that's when he
started giving reports. So it's usually it's

497
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:28.320
like a second hand connection. I
guess you could say, gotcha for me.

498
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.400
It seems like it's the best way. And just coming up and approaching

499
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:35.159
a d NR officer, Hey what
you got for bigfoot? Right? Yeah?

500
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:38.440
That never goes well, No,
usually doesn't work. Guys, don't

501
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:44.239
do it. Do you have any
like bigfoot stuff on your vehicle? I

502
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:51.480
have one tiny sticker on the back
window. It's there along with the American

503
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:54.519
Needs Farmer sticker, University of Iowa, A twins and a Viking. So

504
00:43:55.000 --> 00:44:02.039
yeah, everybody knows I'm certifiable nice. Has having that sticker led to any

505
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:08.360
any people coming up to you or
anything interesting? At that I've been waived

506
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:13.119
at. Somebody would pass me and
wave, yeah. Maybe I was just

507
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.320
going the speed limit and they didn't
like it, but they would wave.

508
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:20.079
But people coming up and wanting to
talk no, and I kind of like

509
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:27.320
it that way. Gotcha. You
know, have you ever had any thing

510
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:32.239
happen in the Kettle Moraine area of
Wisconsin. We had an expedition in the

511
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:38.360
Southern Moraine, South Moraine. Apparently
I picked a bad weekend because there was

512
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:43.320
some stock car races or tractor pull
or something going on that was relatively close.

513
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:52.480
I haven't had anything happen, but
the Northern Moraine would be my preference

514
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:57.239
to go to. Up there's a
fire tower. There's a loop that has

515
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.079
a fire tower on it, and
that is one of the creepiest places I've

516
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:06.960
ever walked. You can go in
there midday and there's so much growth in

517
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:14.920
there, it is like you're in
at night. And I know an investigator

518
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:17.679
that lived up around there and would
go there quite a bit, and he

519
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:24.119
had all kinds of activity. Keith
had chattering back and forth around him.

520
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:30.840
He's been escorted out numerous times.
He just he says, he just gives

521
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:37.199
him a really bad vibe going in
there. J Patrocian, No, it's

522
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:42.480
Rick Rellis. Oh yeah, Rick's
the guy that told me the story from

523
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:49.800
backbone. That would have been our
expedition. Really, yes, Bob,

524
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:57.039
are you holding out to me?
No? So you were on the expedition

525
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:01.679
for the orbs in the Bigfoot?
Yeah, okay, dude. So they

526
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:06.440
kind of they kind of questioned whether
it was Orbes, but okay, that

527
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:09.840
should be our expedition because we've got
in there a couple of times and it's

528
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:15.480
a great place. Again, So
were you there for that incident or was

529
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:20.880
it a thing where like people were
split up and then they told you later

530
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.079
about what happened. I didn't find
out about it until the next morning.

531
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:29.440
Okay. His group, you know, we divide up into groups. It's

532
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:35.000
not like one massive people to go
out, so we'll split into usually it's

533
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:38.480
one investigator and about four or five
other people, and we have areas where

534
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:43.639
we want to go. And they
had a pretty good activity. They had

535
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:47.559
a good time. It's it's such
a crazy and it's a wild story.

536
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:52.760
It's one of the wildest. Thrick
is a cool guy. Did he did

537
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:59.719
he tell you about the happening that
he had this is in Wisconsin. I

538
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:05.920
don't I don't know. It's been
I've solid four years, it's been a

539
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:10.320
while. It doesn't really it doesn't
sound familiar. Okay, it was out

540
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:15.880
a Wisconsin expedition. It was he
a family of four who have never gone

541
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.320
out before, and then another investigator
behind the group, and they were walking

542
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:28.519
this road and it felt like they
walked into a wave of electricity. So

543
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.320
the first person felt it like,
Oh, what's that? And then person

544
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:36.599
behind him, oh my god.
As they kept moving, so it was

545
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:44.760
like they hit a wall. Is
there any other explanation for what that could

546
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:54.000
be? I leaned towards like infrasound, because there are other mammals that produce

547
00:47:54.039 --> 00:48:00.960
it, right, and it seems
like the most plausible explanation usually larger predators,

548
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:08.280
right right, Yeah, which in
that area would we be looking at,

549
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:15.840
like mountain lions or there's a couple
in that area. I don't think

550
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.119
they would produce it. I don't
think they're big enough. I think they

551
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:22.639
would just growl and be very annoyed
with you. But the feeling that you're

552
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:27.360
walking into a wave of electricity,
I've had that happened a couple of times

553
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.519
myself. One was up in Yellow
River. I'd crawled into the back of

554
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:37.679
my truck for the night, and
then this wave hit me, and it

555
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:40.239
was a tingling sensation. If you've
ever been shocked, like you know,

556
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.800
plugging in something into an outlet and
accidentally have your finger on the tongue,

557
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.639
it's not quite that intense, but
it was similar, and I remember to

558
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.519
scream it. You're yelling like,
stop it. I'm going to bed and

559
00:48:52.760 --> 00:49:00.719
get stopped right away. Really,
oh wow, that is interesting And no

560
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:07.920
health issues, no no long term
effects, but that it was just an

561
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:12.559
annoying somebody something was annoyed that I
had parked my truck so close to where

562
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:17.199
they were going to go fishing.
It was next to a creek actually,

563
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:25.119
not that farmore we filmed Finding Bigfoot. So my feeling is that I just

564
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:31.119
annoyed something and it was letting me
know, just realized I'm missing an obvious

565
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:36.920
question. You were not involved with
the filming of Finding Bigfoot? Oh?

566
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.480
Yeah, I was involved. You
were okay the trailer? Yeah, okay.

567
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:45.000
I was like, come on,
that's a question to ask my internal

568
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:50.400
thoughts. Can you share anything from
that experience of being involved with that episode?

569
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:54.559
Sure if you haven't seen the episode, churn out the last five minutes

570
00:49:54.599 --> 00:50:04.159
please or are you going to see
me on thermal? Because what happened?

571
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:08.599
All the good stuff happened when there
wasn't a camera crew around. So there's

572
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:14.119
a fire tower up and Yellow River
and there was a group of us hanging

573
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:19.559
out there and I had something chucked
at me, like a walnut just come

574
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:23.280
flying past my head, just missed
me. You'd hear the whiz from it

575
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:28.639
and hear it land right right behind
me. So that that happened. There

576
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:37.119
was a couple of investigators walking the
fire tower road and something landed at their

577
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.920
feet, and an investigator that picked
up a rock and threw it back in

578
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:45.599
the direction where the stuff came.
Not a good idea. You get stuff

579
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:52.920
thrown it constantly then, so they
irritated something. But that last night was

580
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.679
it was interesting. It was a
good idea, a good plan of having

581
00:50:55.719 --> 00:51:00.880
this all position around on this road. And Matt Muney make meant Moneymaker and

582
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:09.440
Cliff were walking along the edge of
a creek and I'm trying to get their

583
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:14.840
attention because on the other side of
the creek, right behind him, something

584
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:20.079
with red eyes was moving back and
forth. Their walkie talkies weren't on,

585
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:23.920
and obviously they couldn't see me because
it's pitch black, so I'm trying to

586
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:28.440
run up to them and get their
attention. So that's why I'm on TV

587
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:36.599
in thermal. And afterwards we started
questioning the crew because it's not a huge

588
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:42.320
crew. Ten fifteen people that came
with them, and none of them were

589
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:45.880
in that area where we were seeing
the eyglub. They were all at the

590
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:51.960
designated parking area, so something was
pacing behind him on the other side of

591
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:55.880
the creek. But as the show
goes, that was a fair representation of

592
00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:01.360
a BFRO expedition. You know.
Again, we divide it up into groups

593
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:05.760
and we had a big cookout when
it started, and it was a lot

594
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:09.239
of fun, except for like less
again the very end, right exactly,

595
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:15.559
It's like, damn it. Yeah, it becomes an interesting episode for sure.

596
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.519
People don't know the Iowa episode.
You should go watch it. I

597
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:22.960
think it's like on Discovery Plus.
Are there any things that you would want

598
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:29.639
to clear up about what people might
think about it. It's definitely not a

599
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.639
way to make money. I know
we charge, but we've got overhead.

600
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:38.239
We pay insurance. There's the upkeep
of the database and the website, so

601
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:45.719
you're not going to get rich holding
an expedition. There's you know, we

602
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:52.559
try to keep it as scientific as
possible. There's no joking, no firearms,

603
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:59.199
no pranking. We don't want people
to disclose where we're going. Afterwards.

604
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:01.400
We encourage people to go back out
into the site. You know,

605
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:08.320
that would be my main concern.
People that I hear on different websites that

606
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:12.440
you know, it's just a way
to make money, And no, I

607
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.519
spend way more than anything I ever
get from it. Gotcha. The thing

608
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:21.119
I hear over and over and I
haven't been on on myself, so I'm

609
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:23.320
kind of an outside person looking in. But the thing I see over and

610
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:30.239
over is that everything is faked that
happens on those Oh definitely not. No,

611
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.840
Okay, that's what I figured I
would like. I don't know,

612
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:39.199
guys. I mean, at the
very least, renting the Jacklinks costumes,

613
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:45.360
that thing's really expensive, right,
Yeah, you'd have to really raise the

614
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:51.000
price. Yes, No, there's
absolutely there's no faking. We don't plant

615
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:55.800
evidence and oh hey guys, let's
go over here. No, gotcha,

616
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:01.800
that's that's good to hear. Have
you ever sure to any interesting audio evidence

617
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:10.199
yourself personally after I've been doing this
since twenty twelve, so after eleven years.

618
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:15.920
Last year up in Minnesota, I
caught something which most likely as a

619
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:21.800
howl. It doesn't match up with
any known again known critters, there's no,

620
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:24.440
it's not coyote. It doesn't match
that wave, that sonogram, it

621
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:34.440
doesn't match you know, wolf or
bear. Yeah, it just the spectrogram.

622
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:40.599
It looks like something very large,
very big, very deep chest did

623
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:45.960
a whoop. You can see it
go up, comes down, and at

624
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:50.280
the very end it goes back up
again, sort of like the Ohio howl.

625
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:55.480
Gotcha? That is really that's awesome. What are you you know?

626
00:54:55.559 --> 00:55:08.159
Being up in Wisconsin, have any
feelings towards non bigfoot cryptids? Everybody talks

627
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:13.760
about the dog man right, the
Beast of Bray Road, and consistently enough

628
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:16.840
in the town I live in,
there's a Bray Street a block from me.

629
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:22.480
It's like one block long, and
there's a beast that lives on it.

630
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:23.159
It's a heck of a dog.
You go out for a walk,

631
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:29.480
it's gonna say hi to you.
I haven't encountered any other cryptids. I

632
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:35.840
enjoy the stories. One of my
best friends sponsor to borrow my recording equipment

633
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:39.320
and go sit in cemeteries. My
goodness, knock yourself out. Yeah not

634
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:43.639
for me, dude. Yeah.
The whole dog man thing freaks me out.

635
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:46.360
I'm like, I really, I've
gotten a few reports from Iowa,

636
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:50.800
but I'm like, man, I
hope we don't have any of those down

637
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:53.360
here. But I know there is
a guy who contact me in northwest Iowa.

638
00:55:54.440 --> 00:56:00.800
I'm sure everything weird is over in
southeast Iowa, So sure there's something

639
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:04.599
over there. Do you have any
advice for people that would be wanting to

640
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:09.480
kind of get into the going to
look for bigfoot thing? Any advice for

641
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:15.360
people just starting out? Sure?
There is a great book by Robert W.

642
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:21.360
Morris. Oh, Robert Morgan one, Yeah, that one. It's

643
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.440
so good. It's a great book, it really is. Unfortunately, we

644
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:29.480
were packing up to move and that
book got packed up and I don't happen

645
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:32.840
to remember the name of it right
now, but it's fantastic. It tells

646
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:37.320
you how to do this, It
tells you how to set up a tent,

647
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:43.039
how to select a campsite. The
best advice in the book act natural

648
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:46.320
and be quiet. Whether you're at
the campsite or you go out in the

649
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:52.760
woods, just be yourself. Don't
blair music really loud, don't do anything

650
00:56:52.840 --> 00:57:00.800
dumb like that. There's a lot
of great organizations you can hook up with,

651
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:06.320
or at least investigate yourself and check
them out. You know, besides

652
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:10.880
the BFRO, there's low Land Investigators, which is in Iowa. I happen

653
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:15.639
to think they're great because I work
with them. Right, I think that's

654
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:22.199
the only non BFRO related organization for
bigfoot, Right, it is Lowlands.

655
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:27.519
That's all I could find. There
should be other ones in Iowa, Okay,

656
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.559
I don't know how active they are. There's other organizations in the Midwest

657
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:36.119
that are something that should be active. But again, if you want to

658
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:40.599
do this, spend some time studying
the subject and find it. You know,

659
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:45.480
if you're comfortable walking at night,
do it without your head lamp on.

660
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.679
You should get used to being able
to see in the dark. After

661
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:53.039
a few minutes, you know,
your eyes will just and just walk a

662
00:57:53.079 --> 00:58:00.880
dead end road again, eyes open, mouth closed, just listen, see

663
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:08.000
what's around you. Yeah, that's
that's good advice. Definitely. I would

664
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:14.320
say stick to the roads. Yes, for at the beginning. Yeah,

665
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:19.840
I've seen people dive into you know, six foot tall brush thinking they saw

666
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.880
you know, eye glow Bigfoot and
they run into this cover and you know,

667
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:29.480
for God's safe, they were chasing
the moon. Oh no, yes,

668
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:32.000
sure. So again, there's another
piece of advice. When you go

669
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:36.480
out, make sure you know where
like cell phone towers are, if you're

670
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:42.320
going to a spot, you know, headlamps from car headlights, tail lights.

671
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:45.519
Just check it out and make sure
that you know your surroundings before you

672
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:49.960
commit to going out for three or
four hours at a time. Yeah,

673
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:52.840
this is not a thing where it's
like you decide to do it at nine

674
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:55.239
and you go out at ten.
Like you need to put stuff. You

675
00:58:55.280 --> 00:59:00.079
need to put time into preparing for
this and know, like are there snakes

676
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.960
in the area I'm going to Maybe
I need to be prepared for if a

677
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:07.400
snake is there, like a poisonous
snake that's kind of a big deal in

678
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:10.440
Iowa in some parts. Yeah,
definitely do your homework and you have a

679
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:15.960
buddy that helps out too. But
yeah, that's my advice to tag on

680
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:21.840
anyways. But yeah, Bob,
this has been a really fun shot.

681
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:25.920
There are a few things I want
to ask you afterwards if you have a

682
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:30.760
few extra minutes. But I just
really thankful for you for coming on the

683
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:36.199
show and just sharing some really solid
information about the Midwest in Iowa when it

684
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:37.880
comes to Bigfoot, there's not a
lot of people to talk to, and

685
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:44.719
I just appreciate you coming on.
Are there any ways that people can do

686
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:47.320
you have online presence at all,
or ways people can contact you? Or

687
00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:52.480
are you kind of in the shadows
and like to live that way? I

688
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:59.840
lurk in the darkness Lowlanders. That
website you can content me through there.

689
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:04.480
If you have a report, you
can put it on the BFRO website for

690
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:08.079
Iowa and request me to be the
investigator. That's the best way to do

691
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:13.199
it too. Those two awesome.
That's great. Well, thank you so

692
01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:16.559
much for coming on, Bob.
Yeah, my pleasure. It was a

693
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:22.079
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701
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702
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703
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713
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714
01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:01.039
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715
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716
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So what I did is we're going to

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It's now adding the current amount plus the

719
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721
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730
01:03:13.559 --> 01:04:01.719
again so much for listening. Guys, Her and I can get out here,

731
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:05.559
we can tell our stories. Maybe
there's somebody else out there listening it's

732
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:10.400
too afraid to tell their story.
Maybe this will give them the courage to

733
01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:14.800
come out. And I feel so
bad about it. Who cares what anybody's

734
01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:17.679
thinks. I know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's

735
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:39.320
all I care. Please let people
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736
01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:43.639
you ever see one of these things, you need you tell, because if

737
01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:54.840
you don't, then shame on you, you know, shame on you.