Oct. 13, 2025

McKenzie Sasquatch and Bigfoot vs. the Dog! | Oregon | Archives

McKenzie Sasquatch and Bigfoot vs. the Dog! | Oregon | Archives
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Season 1

What happens when a young bowhunter is dropped off in the remote Oregon woods—only to be greeted by sweat-drenched deer and a freshly snapped fir tree? In this chilling and unforgettable episode, we sit down with Brad from Oregon, who shares a lifetime of strange and violent encounters in the forests around the McKenzie River. From glowing orbs that descend into the trees to invisible forces that freeze him in place, Brad’s stories span decades and defy explanation. You’ll hear terrifying whoops near Oakridge, a roar that left him and his friend crying with fear, and the moment a tree-shaking creature nearly changed everything. We travel from Lost Creek Campground during the Mount St. Helens eruption to the eerie powerline corridors of Diamond Peak. If you thought Bigfoot was just a shadow on a trail cam—think again. This is raw. It's real. And it might change how you see the forest forever.

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You're listening to Big Flat Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, pick for Society. We

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got the privilege of talking to Brad today. He's a

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listener from Oregon that reached out with some really interesting

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things that he's experienced over the years. Brad, I'm so

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glad you reached out and I'm excited to talk to

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you tonight. How's it going, man.

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Great, Jeremiah, thanks for having me on the show.

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Awesome. We talked a little bit in the pre interview

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and this is going to get pretty interesting. There's even

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some Oakradge Oregon related stuff for that I'm coming up.

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But Brad, I'm going to give it right over to you,

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and we'll get right into it tonight.

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All right, thank you very much, Jeremiah. I grew up

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in Eugene, Oregon, and I was an outdoorsy kind of kid.

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My grandparents lived on the Mackenzie River up near the

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town of Vida, and I spent all my childhood free

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time up there roaming the woods and the creeks in

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the hillsides. And grandparents are a little loosers, and the

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parents are about where the kid is, and so I'd

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had free range in the mountains. I never really thought

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about sasquatch or bigfoot at all growing up, and never

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really had anything happened to me that would make me

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think that there were any bigfoot around. But until I

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was about and see how old was, I was probably

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around fourteen years old. Fifteen years old. My grandma would

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drive me up these old logging roads with my bow,

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and I would hunt these logging roads my way and

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just wander my way back to her house down these

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logging roads. And there was a time she dropped me

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off and there about it's about a three or four

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mile walk back down to her house, and I was

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let out of the car and the birds were chirping,

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and the squirrels were chattering at me, and I would

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usually sit and wait, sit in a little burrow ditch

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and wait for her car, so I couldn't hear a

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car anymore. And then I start walking down the logging

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road and never really planned on shooting a deer with

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a bow. It was more of just me being out

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in the woods. But anyway, I heard her car disappear

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out of range, out of my hearing, and all of

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a sudden, I just had this very strange sensation of being.

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It's like the forest just went silent, and I just

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got a really weird feeling. So I'm standing on the

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logging road looking down into the ravine below me, and

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these three gear come creeping up out of the ravine

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really low, really a strange movement, hunkered down and almost

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trying to crawl, and they were covered in sweat, totally

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ladded over, and their eyes were bulging out of their

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heads and they walked within. I could have reached out

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and hit one with touching with my arrow. They were

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so close and they could have cared less that I

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was there. I thought that was really weird. And so

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I'm looking down into the ravine where they came from,

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and a tree like it's just got cracked in half

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and was pushed over, and there was no wind, there

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was no reason for it to happen. It sounded like

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a healthy, live green fir tree just snapped in half.

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And that was the first encounter. But again in the eighties,

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I wasn't a figure. It was definitely not on my mind.

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I just thought it was strange and wandered on back

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to my grandma's house. And then, let's see, there was

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another time. Don't want to back up the when I

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was a little.

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Younger before you do that. So I just want to

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clarify something. So you when you were looking down the

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ravine youse, like you heard that tree get cracked in

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half and pushed over.

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Yeah, I was dere walked by me. I couldn't figure

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out why they were. I've never seen deer behave like that.

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They were just it was almost like they're creeping past

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me with their and their eyes were bulghout and they

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looked if you see a horse, that's all that's been

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a run too hard. They just had this sheen of

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They looked terrified. And then this tree just goes crack

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and goes crashing down to the ground. Green, not punky,

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just a green, big fir tree. It sounded like a

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mature tree, and it didn't freak me out, but I

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just was odd, and so I high tail it. I

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just losed that to my grandma's house.

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When you were out in the woods with your bow,

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did you ever hear any sounds out there that didn't

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fit with what should be out in the wood.

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The only times I ever did are there are those

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stories I'm going to tell you. Other than that, never,

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which is it's strange. I'd never it never crossed my mind.

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I was never no, no signs, or never even crossed

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my mind. I'll back up a little bit. I skipped

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this one. This has happened when I was ten years

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old on Lost Creek, at Lost Creek Campground. It's on

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the west side of Mount Hood in nineteen eighty. And

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I know the date exactly because the day after this

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event happened, Mount Saint Helens erupted. So May nineteen eighty

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it was when this happened, and I was camping with

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a family friend for the weekend. And again this I

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completely forgot about this until I heard somebody tell a

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similar story and It's funny how these things come back

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to you when you hear something. It just sparked this memory,

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and I was we were camping at this campground and

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it was a you plow your trailer in, and it

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was a pretty crowded campground. And there we had a camper,

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there's a tent, there's a cable set up, there was

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a fire pit, so it was a cramped little space.

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And I'm it's night and my friend and I are

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sleeping in the tent and his parents are sleeping in

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the camper, and I'm laying there in bed. I don't

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know what time it was, ken between ten and midnight,

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probably because I wasn't asleep yet, and I heard what

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sounded like a deer bounding through the camp, bump bounding,

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and then it stopped right outside our tent. And we

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had a little cord that was a cold in the vestibule.

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We had it tied around a tree, and we just

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I kept hearing this dump. It was twaying in the cord,

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and I thought, oh, a deer must have jumped, jumped

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the cord or tripped into the cord or something, and

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then it thumped away. But what was weird is a

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few minutes later, I could thump came back and it

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did the same thing. It was twaying in the little

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cor that was holding the vestibule of the tent cup,

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probably two or three twangs like a guitar string, and

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then it stumped, dump, dumped away through camp. That was it.

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So I wake up in the morning're like, gosh, did

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you guys hear that deer in camp last night? And

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no one they didn't hear anything. But then I started

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thinking this, there's no way a deer could have run

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through the camp because it's so there's coolers and there's

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stuff everywhere. Besides, it was finking that it was it

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would stomp, stumpap up to the camp stop and then

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the little cord would go blinging, blowing and librate the camp.

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So that happened. It did that two times, and that

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was and then the next morning. That morning we forgot

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all about it because Mount Saint Helens had erupted while

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we were having breakfast and we could hear the sonic

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boom and the ground shook, and we all knew what

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it was because you know, everyone in the Northwest was

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waiting for it to happen. So that sort of trump

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whatever happened to me that night, which I was pretty cool,

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and then there was ash all over our cars. The

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next day, it was cool. Let's see, I've got another

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I'll talk a little bit more about what happened upon

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the Mackensey River where I grew up. So let's see,

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this is a weird one. So the year was let's see,

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I wrote all this stuff, you know, nineteen. I was

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a junior in high school and my grandma was a

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really cool old lady, and all my high school friends

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would come up there and spend the night. She'd cooked

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for us and we'd fish and run around the forest

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and play in the yard. And she had about thirteen acres.

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And one night we were out playing a game called

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kick the Can, which is like a hide and seek

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game where you put a can in the middle field

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and one person guards it. If someone gets tagged and

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you kick the can, the person who you tagged was free.

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We're all out.

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They're probably eight of us out playing this game, and

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I'm hiding in some ferns, and all of a sudden,

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a couple of the people who are in that there's

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two people who are it. They're out in the field going,

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they stop and they are staring up at the mountain

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side that's next to the property, and pretty soon all

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the rest of the kids come out and they're all

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looking up in the sky.

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What the heck's going on?

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So I get out of my hiding spot and I

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joined them in the field and I look up and

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there are three green, bluish green I think there were

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bluish green balls of the light, about the size of

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beach balls, big kind of rubber beach balls you would

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see at like a music festival or something. And there

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was so if I'm looking straight across the property to

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the hillside is twelve o'clock. There was one at about

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nine o'clock that it was maybe three or four hundred

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ye yards away, not on our property, but the next

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piece of property in the above the forest. There there

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was one probably ten o'clock that was right above with

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this creek runs down into our property. And then there

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was one at about one o'clock, and they were just

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green or beech balls, just hovering in the sky, and

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we're all like, WHOA, what's going on?

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What's that?

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We didn't know what they were. And the Rolodecks starts

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going over in your mind, is it a weather, believing it?

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What is it? And then it was none of that.

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It was just these balls of light and at the

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same time, so they were just stationary in the sky

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above the fir trees, and there were different elevations, so

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one was down on our across from us flat, probably

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twenty feet above the fir trees there, and the other

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one was another up the hillside. They were all the

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same distance of the fir trees, if that makes sense.

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And all of a sudden, at the very same time,

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they started descending into the trees, into the fir trees,

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and you could see all the boughs of the fir

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trees lighting up around them, and they just slowly went

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into the forest at the same time. It was really weird,

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and we freaked out and all went back inside and

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called it a night. So that was strange. So the

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next day, so if this is at the end of September,

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most of the kids left that next day and my

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buddy and I were going to go grouse something. We stayed,

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so we're like, let's go grouse something. And so there's

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an old logging road straight across from my grandma's place,

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and so we always hunt this logging road, and we'd

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hike a couple of miles up and there was this

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really neat kind of we're hunting in. I'd say it's

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second growth. So the trees were probably sixty or seventy

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years old and pretty mature forest. But there was a

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really cool spot that the loggers had left. They didn't cut,

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maybe eight or nine acres with really beautiful old growth,

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and so we'd go hike to that spot, go leave

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our we'd always leave our guns outside that we never

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took anything in there, any guns or weapons, just because

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it was such as like a sort of a sacred place.

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It was really amazing. So we'd go and sit and

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does it. And then we'd hunt back down the road

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in my grandma's house, and there was a so between

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this neat, little old growth section and her house was

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a giant one of those big giant power lines that

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go across the state, those giant high tension power lines,

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and a little service road ran under it. And we'd

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always we'd go to the little old growth spot, come

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down and then turn down the little service road underneath

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the high tension power lines and eat a sandwich and

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drink something because it was in the sun, because when

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you're in the on these log roads and these big trees,

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it's like a tunnel and there's no direct sunlight. So

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we'd always go and get a little sunshine on our

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faces and have a sandwich and just sit and look

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out across the mountains. So we've done that, we're on

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our way back down and we're it gets this is

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where it gets pretty weird. And so let me see.

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So I'm walking, we're walking down the road and we're

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about to turn turn right to go down this little

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service road, logging road to eat our sandwiches. And from

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the from our right side, probably twenty yards in the

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just off the edge of the logging road in the forest,

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we hear two whoops, yeah, you know, really loud, and

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before we can really acknowledge what we just heard, we

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both just stop and freeze, and this way to unbelievable

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fear that I can't really describe came over us. And

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it was like we walked into an invisible sort of

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bull of jelly. I couldn't move either, and my friend

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and this was the fear was I can't describe fear.

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It's just unless it's happened to you. I think it's

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hard to explain. So the hoops happen, and then across

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the little service road there's another The forest continues, but

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it's the face of this forest is it gets a

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lot of sunlight. So there was scotch broom blackberries, so

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you couldn't really see into the little thicket of trees

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that was on the other side, and from that side,

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all of a sudden, and we're frozen and we can't move,

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and all of a sudden, I hear the sound. And

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I've gone online and listened to certain animals as I've

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heard people's accounts, and it sounded exactly like if you

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listen to what an alligator, a crocodile sounds like a vibrate.

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I don't think they have vocal chords, but they make

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this weird vibrating noise. It sounded exactly like that at first,

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where just my eyes are bulging out of my head

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and the noise is just it's reverberating through this whole

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little landing that we're standing in. We can kind of

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at this point, I'm sort of like, oh God, I'm

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starting to maybe pivot around a little bit. I can

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my senses are coming back and We're talking back and forth,

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like what the heck's going on, And as we start

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to talk, that sound and it's inhaling and it's gets

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raspy inhale and just vibrating out this noise. It sounds

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like an alligator. And then it goes from that sound

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to and again I've listened. I've found these sounds online.

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It sounded like a if you ever heard it, listen

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to a lion while I eats, like a big male

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lion eating kind of purrs and growled at the same time.

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So with inhale, you could hear inhaling is really raspy noise,

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and then when it would exhale, it would make this

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sort of purring growl like a lion. But it was

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really loud, and all I could think of was, thing's

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got to be the size of a rhinoceros, whatever's in there,

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And it was doing that. We would inhale and then

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exhale this purring, strange growl, and we're starting to freak

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out a little bit, obviously, and we're thinking to ourselves,

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right in the heck, we're going not a deer, not

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an elk, not a coolar, not a bear, and not

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a person in there trying to mess with us. But

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again I'm not thinking Bigfoot at all, which is weird

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because going up an Oregon you hear about bigfoot, but

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it just wasn't entering my mind. So we're standing there

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and I'd forgotten we even have guns because we're just

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so scared. So as we start to shift our bodies,

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this is maybe a minute or two was gone by

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since we heard those initial whoops, so it's going by

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pretty quick, and the mines. My mind's just racing, racing,

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trying to figure out what's happening. If we start to talk,

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what are we going to do? How are we going

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to get because we have to walk underneath the because

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the road cuts down below where this is happening in

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this little thicket of trees, and the trees are probably there.

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It's a newer grove of fir trees, and the trees

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were probably thirty forty feet tall, but you couldn't see,

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Like I said, you couldn't really see in So we're like, oh, shoot,

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how are we going to get below? Get out of

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here because that thing is, whatever that thing is, it's mad.

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So as as we're shifting and we're starting to talk

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about what we're going to do. I'm like, we got

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we each have a twelve eight shotgun. We could fire

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over the trees, wait for it to run off, and

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then booky out of there. And the minute I started

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to put my gun to consider lifting it up and

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firing it, the place erupted. It went from this weird,

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hurrying growl to just this screaming roar of I can't again,

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I can't describe it. It was just blowing through our body,

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like blowing through our bodies, and the trees started to shake,

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and there was branches starting to snap, and I remember

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seeing two trees that were probably thirty five or forty

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feet tall next to each other, just shaken violently back

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and forth. I'm like, gosh, what the heck can be

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doing that? And then they went from back and forth

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to front back, completely different directions at the same time,

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like something was grabbing them with their hands and just

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shaking them back and forth. So we're terrified and we

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don't know what to do. I think I'm crying at

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this point, and just the cheer just poof overwhelmed. So

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screw it, we got to get out of here. So

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we both agree we're going to shoot over this thing,

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over the trees, and then bolt underneath it. Hopefully it

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is the sound of our guns will scare it off.

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So yeah, we fire over the tree tops and we

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wait a second to see if you can hear whatever's

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in there take off. It didn't. It just what we

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thought was pretty much max. It just elevated even worse,

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and it was screaming and making those crazy songs, and

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so we heck with it. We got to go. So

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we bolted and a few hiked on logging roads. You

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know that the rocks, it's not a small little gravel,

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their big rocks, and it's hard to keep their balance.

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And so I'm thinking the whole time is I'm going

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to wipe out, and this thing's going to jump down

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and grab me. Because we're I'm running as fast as

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I've ever had before. My heels were hit, my butt

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and I got a shotgun and hiking boots on, and

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I'm we're hauling down this road and as I'm running underneath,

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as we are, as we're running underneath where this thing is,

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I'm just thinking, this thing's gonna grab me. I'm dead.

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We're going to die. But for some reason, it never did.

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But the hair on my I could just feel it

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above me. I never saw it, but I could just

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tell that there was, and it was huffing and at disappointed,

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had stopped for all the ruckets and was just up

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there huffing and breathing really loudly. And I could just

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feel because I ran path ran underneath to sing, feel

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it above me, and I just thought I was going

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to reach down and grab me, but it never did.

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And so I booked it to my grandma's house, which

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we had to cross the road and down her driveway

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is probably one hundred yards long to who her house was,

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and so we'd make it to the front yard and

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she's out in the yard. She must have heard the shots,

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and so she's out there. What's wrong? What's going on?

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I heard shots? She's a tough old lady, and like

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we told her what happened, and we're crying and we're

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freaked out, and she looked at us and says, we

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ran into a big foot, and we're We looked at

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each other and like, what for some reason, it's just

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still not sinking in.

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That's what it was.

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And we're like, what do you mean? We ran into a

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big foot? And she says, well, there's a pizza joint

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that's down the road from on the highway from her

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house that her and her friend would go to every

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Friday night and have her glass of wine and eat pizza.

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And she was telling me that they told us that

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when she would go, her and her friend Ellen would

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go and have pizza and drink wine, the loggers would

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It was the loggers hang out back in the eighties.

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You know, the logging industry was very different back then.

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There's smaller operations and families and things. It was a

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lot different than it is now. But that's where all

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the loggers would go and on Friday night hang out.

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She said that she'd overhear the loggers talk about things

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like this happening to them in the forest. She said,

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I would hear a story after story of these sort

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of things happening, and hear them from these loggers who

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are out there doing it logging, and they're in the

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forest every day. That's it. And so the next day,

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so it didn't affect me the way I hear people

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talk about getting terrified of going back in the woods.

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It was like it was erased from my mind. So

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the next day I'm up there and my friend had

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to leave, we had to go back to the Eugene,

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and so I stayed and I said, Grandma, I'm going

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to go and back up to where that happened and

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look around and see what I can see. Because I'm

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still thinking, for whatever reason, I couldn't get it into

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my head that it was a big foot or a sasquatch.

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I kept I'm going to go look for hoofs tracks.

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So I'm going to go look for claw marks in

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the tree, because that's what I thought it was. For

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some reason, I go up there. It's not very far away.

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It's probably less than a quarter of a mile from

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her house up this road, the logging road. So I

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go into this thicket where this had happened, and there's

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I'm I'm not I knew nothing about bigfoot tracks or

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what to look for in that regard. I'm just looking

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for hoof prints. I'm looking for scrapes from antlers, and

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I'm looking for claw marks, and there was none of that.

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But what was weird is that when I got into

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the thicket, because it had snapped a bunch of fur

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boughs and there should have been broken boughs, you could

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see where they've been broken off the trees where they're thing.

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It snapped in fresh breaks, but there were zero. I

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couldn't find any fur boughs on the ground. They were gone.

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Something picked them up and take him away. And the

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ground was really beat down. It's a lot of fur

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needles and things where I couldn't make out any tracks.

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I didn't see any obviously cooked prints or clal marks

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in the tree. So that was it and I just

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forgot about it after that.

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That is an incredible account, even though there wasn't a visual.

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That is a wild encounter. Do you think that pizza

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place is still there?

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I still go there.

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Yeah, is that Ike's pizza?

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It's Ike's pizza him?

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All right, we can cut that out if you want.

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No, that's find out. Yeah, Ikes pizza for sure.

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Yeah, I just I have a Google Maps up. The

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interesting thing I noticed is while you were telling that story,

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you were talking about how it was like alligators.

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How.

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Yeah.

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The weird thing is that the thing you were the

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thing you were describing, that's actually an infrasound thing. Oh

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it is if you look it up, like when they

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used as bellows. That's an infrasound.

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Oh, no way crazy. I didn't know, so you hit me. Yeah, yeah,

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that's weird because I heard someone mention it on a

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that that's what it sounded like to them, and I

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so I went and listened to it and say, whoa,

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that's exactly what it sounded like. And it just I

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don't know what infra sound does, but man, I was frozen.

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We couldn't move. It was like I walk into the

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invisible force field exactly and was frozen in praise. It

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was so weird. I didn't feel sick, I never got

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knoshis or anything. I just couldn't move, and I was

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so scared that I was crying, and for no reason,

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because I don't think I think that the wave when

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we froze halfened before I even heard anything. I think

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I was frozen in place before I even started hearing

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that alligator type sound.

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That's wild. That element is enough for me to hearing.

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That's enough that you definitely experienced some crazy stuff in

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the woods that day, No question.

459
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:31.279
It was bizarre. Yeah, it was weird. So to the

460
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:34.759
end this part of the story. So I'd completely forgotten

461
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:37.440
about this event. I was getting ready to graduate high

462
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.680
school that next year, and I after I graduated high school,

463
00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:44.079
I'd moved to Idaho and became a ski bum for

464
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:46.960
about a decade and spent all that time just in

465
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:52.000
the mountain Idaho, exploring skiing, fishing, all types of all

466
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.640
times of year, all seasons, and never even thought about

467
00:25:55.960 --> 00:26:00.519
sasquatch or bigfoot getting crossed my mind and my ski

468
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.759
bumb career and the years about. It's about two thousand

469
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:07.319
and two and I'm going to school in Boise at

470
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.440
Boise State University do get my teaching certificate. And Boise

471
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.119
is a really cool city. There's the river runs right

472
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:16.480
through town, and on the south side of the river

473
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:18.640
there's the college, and on the north side of the

474
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.319
river there are all these really pretty parks and concert

475
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:25.640
little concert shells and things. And there's an old zoo,

476
00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:28.880
like an old one of the old school, small town

477
00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:32.839
depressing looking zoos. And so I would have to footbridge

478
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:35.559
to get to the colleges right next to the zoo.

479
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.400
So i think I'm a junior or something at this point,

480
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:40.559
and I'm cruising on my bike and it's early in

481
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:44.880
the morning, and I'm riding past the zoo and I

482
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:49.880
hear these wops coming from the zoo I'm thirty one

483
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:51.960
years old, and this happened. This event happened to me

484
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.759
back when I was seventeen years old, and I just

485
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:59.119
instantly froze on my bike and stopped and was just

486
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.799
catapulted back to that discipline that I just told you about.

487
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:07.680
Like instantly, I could see the color of the rocks,

488
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.440
I could see the shit shadows, every tiny detail just

489
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:14.759
came floating back into me. When I heard these whoops

490
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.519
coming from the zoo, it was really weird, and I

491
00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:20.640
had to go to class and the zoo hadn't opened yet,

492
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:22.680
So I was like, I'm going once the zoo opens,

493
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:25.559
I'm going over there and ask the szookeeper what the

494
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:29.279
heck makes those noises. So I gave I go, hey,

495
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:31.480
I don't I'm not I don't want to go through

496
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:33.720
the zoo. I just want to know that I want

497
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.680
to go to your primate area and will you show me.

498
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.400
I've heard these really loud hoops this morning. He get

499
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:42.000
what makes those noises? And he took me to the

500
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.000
given cage and he goes, those are those are givens,

501
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:46.960
and that's what you heard in the morning, and they

502
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:49.559
were making a little bit of whooping sounds, but it

503
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:54.440
was identical, a little higher pitch and obviously smaller lung capacity.

504
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:58.200
Bet it was the exact same sound that I'd heard

505
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.640
in the forest. It was it froze me on my bike,

506
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.680
like I stopped. I was oblivious to whatever was going

507
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.799
on around me. I was just transported back to that

508
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:12.079
gay in the forest. And up to that point, like

509
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.519
I said, I hadn't never even crossed my mind until

510
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:18.319
Mike heard those Givens coming from the zoo.

511
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:23.000
I'm so glad that you said the little higher pitch

512
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:29.680
because I personally have heard similar things and I was

513
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:31.839
just thinking in my mind. I was like, it is

514
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.319
very much the same, but it's a little lower. And

515
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:37.559
when you said little higher pitch, I was like, yep, absolutely,

516
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:40.319
one hundred percent, but the same kind of sound.

517
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:44.200
Just yeah, just a little higher pitch. But it was

518
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:48.079
weird that would just that sound catapulted me back in

519
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:53.000
times and every single Geekaill just became so vivid. It

520
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:55.880
was bizarre. I'm a terrible memory. I can't remember anything.

521
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.039
I don't know what I had for dinner last night,

522
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:00.240
But how in the heck that could happen and then

523
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:02.839
everything be so clear? It was just it was really strange,

524
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:03.599
that's wild.

525
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.799
I have a few questions before we leave this part.

526
00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:10.319
Did you ever ask your grandma if she had any

527
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.960
bigfoot experiences when you were out there.

528
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:16.960
With you know, I don't. I don't remember, but she

529
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.200
never would have told me anyway. She was pretty sure

530
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.039
she wouldn't because she wouldn't want to scare them from

531
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.880
going back in the forest. Gotcha, it didn't slow me

532
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.440
out of bed. I just kept going back out. Yeah,

533
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:27.599
so I didn't ask.

534
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.680
I share with the members a little bit about upcoming episodes,

535
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:35.680
and they're really interested to read about what you had

536
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.640
sent over. And some of them had some bombers like, Hey,

537
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.599
if you guys have questions for this INTERVIEWEE put them

538
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:43.640
in the comments. So there's a few that are actually

539
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:48.119
related to this part, I believe. Slaya asked, have these

540
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:51.559
events have they affected your ability to be in the

541
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:54.680
mountains in the woods at all? Or did it not

542
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:56.920
affect you in a way where you're like, I'm never

543
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:57.920
going in the woods again.

544
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.839
It didn't, like I said, I forgot about it for

545
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.440
some reason. It never weather. It never slowed me down

546
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:09.079
to good like I moved to Idaho and was I

547
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.279
spent I was out in the woods all the time. No,

548
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.680
it never dared, gotcha, never had a negative effect. And

549
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.839
even now I lived back in Oregon, we're out all

550
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:24.200
the time. I'm aware and I'm very conscious of that,

551
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:26.960
and I treat the forest a little differently, I think,

552
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.599
in terms of how I approach it in a I'm

553
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.599
a lot I have a lot more gratitude.

554
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:38.079
I absolutely Scott had some questions. They're interesting. So you

555
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.039
alluded to how if you grow up in the Pacific

556
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.880
Northwest you know about Bigfoot? Right, So his question is

557
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.359
living in the Pacific Northwest, Bigfoot seems to be part

558
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:51.480
of the culture. Were you a believer before your experiences

559
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:55.079
and you had some really young age experiences.

560
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:58.319
Yeah, but I'd never equated that the Bigfoot until I

561
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:01.079
heard someone talk about it on the podcast, and then

562
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.079
I was like, WHOA kind of like the bike thing

563
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.839
at the zoo. It just triggered this event because if

564
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:08.559
someone mentionally did it on their shirt on I was like,

565
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.039
oh wow, that kind of happened to me. Yeah, I've

566
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.000
had a hunt. It was real, you know. I'd seen

567
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:17.519
the Roger Patterson film, and I think at that point though,

568
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.279
when I was a kid. I felt like they just

569
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:21.319
there was one of them, and that's where they lived

570
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.240
down in California, and we joked we get a lot

571
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.960
of camping, you know. We were always joking about it

572
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.519
that I don't think anybody took it serious. For some

573
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.279
at least that the people hin knew. And then there's

574
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:35.920
a circle of friends I hung out with that point

575
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.599
can but you hear about it that it just was

576
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:40.720
never I don't know if we wanted it to be

577
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.279
true because it would keep us from going out. Maybe

578
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:46.079
we just turned it out. We camped in places where

579
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.880
I hear about accounts the Coast range outs all over

580
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.200
the place, and aside from these few events that I've

581
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:54.839
had happened to me, for the amount of time I

582
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:56.400
spent out there, these are very few.

583
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:59.559
There was also an interesting part where you were sharing

584
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.720
about the lights coming down into the trees and you

585
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:04.559
saw those large lights so.

586
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.599
The rights, Yeah, that was really weird. There were three

587
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.720
of them, and there was one that came down to

588
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:12.680
our I guess that would be to the east, but

589
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.839
it was maybe at the edge of our property, or

590
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:17.720
maybe just passed the edge of our property. We had

591
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:21.160
about thirteen meters and it just into the forest. And

592
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.000
then there was one that there's a creek that runs

593
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:27.640
through our property and it comes down the mountain across

594
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.119
the road, and one of the lights went down and

595
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:33.119
on the left side, to the east side of that drainage,

596
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:36.279
and the other one came down basically right on top

597
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:40.480
before this encounter happened. Oh really the next day, Yeah,

598
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.279
so this the third light was the light came down

599
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:46.880
into basically that because it was I'd Google Earth the

600
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.160
distance and it was five hundred and twenty yards away

601
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.559
as the crossbar, and it was basically just right on

602
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.799
top before that happened. And I never crossed my mind

603
00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:00.920
until I never connected the two until I started hearing

604
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:06.119
accounts with lights and and sasquatch being related. And I

605
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.720
don't know whether or not this, but I never saw

606
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.799
those lights and I never really had an account like that.

607
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:14.759
So are they connected? I don't know.

608
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:18.480
That's pretty close to what is I think he was

609
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:21.119
getting at Scott was getting at with his question perhaps

610
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:23.960
relations to lights. Was it seem that he may believe

611
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:28.200
that there are big paranormal ties or just a coincidence

612
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.400
or just a lot of questions.

613
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:31.599
Yeah, I don't know.

614
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:35.799
I don't like the word paranormal. I just think it's

615
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.200
nature that we don't know about. Love it. Yeah, I

616
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.400
think it's beyond I think it just has been happening.

617
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:43.079
I don't know if he's two or connected, but it

618
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.880
just seemed weird that the light literally went into the

619
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:52.160
forest where this occurred. And again I never made that

620
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:56.000
connection until when I started listening to podcasts even that

621
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:58.559
deal happening, and I'm like, oh, the light came down

622
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.279
and there's something in there. It was the start oft

623
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:03.559
thing from my mind, which is bizarre.

624
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:05.839
Now that I keep back, and what are the chances

625
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.320
that you have this light coming down almost in the

626
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:12.280
same area where you have this encounter, And it's like that, man,

627
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.000
it's got to be connected somehow. But yeah, we just

628
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:16.519
don't acknowledge.

629
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:20.119
And that now having heard enough people being interviewed who

630
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:24.480
have had similar things happen, people are so afraid. They're

631
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:28.519
just say, you could I think that's probably connected. How

632
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.119
could it not? Because I've never seen lights before that,

633
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.519
and I never had an encounter quite in that spot,

634
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:35.800
which is too much for coincidence.

635
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.920
Any UFO activity ever in this area, not in that area.

636
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:40.239
H huh.

637
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.400
That's pretty fantastic. Feel free to continue. I know, I

638
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.280
think we have a few other things to discuss as well.

639
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.159
I've got yeah, I've got a couple more on These

640
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:54.639
are not related to this robbery on the Mackenzie either.

641
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.960
More along of the Lamit Pass area, which is from

642
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.840
Eugene it south, so you go through oakra and you'll

643
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.920
end up at Crater Lake, and if you keep going south,

644
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:06.400
you'll end up in Klamath Falls. But when I wasn't

645
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.679
at up at the Mackenzie at my grandma's place, I

646
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.920
was out. My dad loved to fly fish, and he

647
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.000
got me into fly fishing when I was really young,

648
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.039
and we would He had a spot up right in

649
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:21.119
the town of oak Ridge where there's an old I

650
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:22.800
don't know what's there now, but there was a rock

651
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.880
corry in town and the river of the Wilammette River

652
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:30.400
flowed through at the bottom of town and we would

653
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:35.800
fish this rock cory and it was really excellent trout fishing.

654
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:39.880
And I was with my dad, I was probably twelve

655
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:43.320
or thirteen years old, and we were up fishing the

656
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.519
rock corry and we'd caught some fish and there was

657
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:51.800
a little isolated pool of water up against the hillside

658
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:55.159
that the fish couldn't get out of. So I didn't

659
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.960
keep fish, or we didn't eat, and we'd let them go.

660
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.400
We'd catch them release them. But I was young, and

661
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.679
so I put them in this little pool of water

662
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.719
and just watched them swim around. I was gonna let

663
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:12.239
them go eventually, and my dad, hey, let's go up

664
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.840
and around the corner and fish this riffle. And I'm like,

665
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:18.079
all right, So we leave the fish. There's probably four

666
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:22.119
or five fish a rainbow trout in this pool that's

667
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:26.880
probably the size of a little plastic kiddie pool, but

668
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:29.440
it's there's no way in or out. There's no way

669
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.719
for the fish to get out. And if it was

670
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.360
in the shade I put it. I made sure they

671
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:37.519
were in the shade. The forest came down, and so

672
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.400
the fish had some shade, and I was gonna let

673
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:42.760
them go when we got back. So we go with

674
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:46.320
fish and we come back and the fish are just

675
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:50.320
completely gone. There's no sign that a bird had come

676
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:54.000
and plucked them or anything. It was just really strange.

677
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.400
One minute the little pools full of fish, and the

678
00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:59.800
next minute they're gone. I don't know if that has

679
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.039
anything to do with bigfoot. That it was really weird,

680
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:07.039
and it was up against the hillside and it was

681
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.480
just an odd to come back. And we both looked

682
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:11.800
at you, like where'd they go? But there were no

683
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:14.360
ravens around, There were no I don't know what could

684
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:18.239
have came in took that many fish. So that's an

685
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:22.880
interesting side note. And then I have one more And

686
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.679
this happened at Murray Lake in nineteen eighty seven. I

687
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.880
was a senior in high school and we were there

688
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:33.039
were five of us and we're going to go Three

689
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:34.679
of us were going to hike. We're going to camp

690
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.440
at Murray Lake. And three of us were going to

691
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.679
hike the south side of Diamond Peak and ski the

692
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.880
snowfields up there and come back and camp, and the

693
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:45.400
other two guys were going to hang out at the

694
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:48.679
camp and fish. We leave the trailhead and we're hiking

695
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.199
to the lake and we get maybe a mile and

696
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.440
a half two miles into the hike, and we come

697
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.639
to a lily. So this is all pine trees and

698
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:01.360
it's high desert y mountains. It's not rush like it

699
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:04.800
is on the on the mckensey, where there's ferns and

700
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:09.000
big fir trees and sculpets are a bit different ecosystem.

701
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.519
So we're hiking through these dry pine this little dry

702
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:14.320
pine forest, and we dip down into this space and

703
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:18.400
that's maybe four or five, three or four acres. Then

704
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.599
it's just but it's and it turns into a totally

705
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:28.159
different clay ecosystem. It's there's ferns, there's cedar trees. It's

706
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:31.320
just there. It's really beautiful. There's a little bog like

707
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.920
a fresh water bog tipe spring coming out of the ground.

708
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.360
It's beautiful. And as we're there's five of us and

709
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.480
we're walking in and we're all thinking the same thing,

710
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.280
Oh wow, we're going to explore this is really pretty.

711
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:51.000
And the minute we all got to this the crown

712
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:52.519
of this little the trail where we were going to

713
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:57.480
drop down into the this area, this smell just wopped

714
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.559
in on us, like I don't know, like really the dead,

715
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.000
like skunt cabbage times ten with I don't know how

716
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:10.119
to explain. This awful smell came out of nowhere, and

717
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:13.280
we instantly all decided we're just gonna let's just keep

718
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:17.559
going and keep walking, just not for us not to

719
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:19.960
explore something that cool. At that age, you know, as

720
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.639
a kid, it was bizarre that we all chose to

721
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:26.880
keep going. And then the smell just instantly vanished as

722
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:30.079
we left that spot. So we get to this lake

723
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.880
and where we sad. Nothing happens, there's we just camp.

724
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:38.159
Everything's normal. So next morning, two of my buddies and

725
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:41.440
I hike Diamond Peak and we can go and we're

726
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:43.840
skiing and we make it back to camp and there's

727
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:47.440
a note they tacked up and left. The other two

728
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:51.880
guys split they were gonna fish while we speed, and

729
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:54.599
we got back to camp and they'd left, and there

730
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:58.480
was a note saying mosquitoes were too thick. So we left.

731
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:02.199
So you're back in town. But the mosquitoes weren't that bad.

732
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:04.840
It was weird. It's not like them to peel out

733
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.440
of here, especially during the day when there's the bugs

734
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:11.679
are not real buggy during the day, So I found whatever.

735
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:16.239
So we camp and nothing really, nothing happens, And we

736
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:19.800
get back to town the next day and when we run

737
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.199
into our buddies, they're like, hey, it wasn't that buggy.

738
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.800
Why did you guys leave? And it took him a

739
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.360
second and they looked at each other funny and said.

740
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.239
The truth is, when we were fishing, we kept hearing

741
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:36.800
noises coming out of the forest. We kept hearing sticks breaking,

742
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:41.800
and we kept hearing strange, grunting noises. And we played

743
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:44.480
it off as a bear at first and thought nothing

744
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.880
of it. Thought we'll just go around the other side

745
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:49.719
of the lake and fish. But they said it followed

746
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:51.840
him around the lake. They could hear it chasing him

747
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:55.079
in the forest and was making these weird noises at him.

748
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:58.119
And that's all I got from them, They said. So

749
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.440
we got back to camp and just felt really easy

750
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:03.119
and decide we'd told you that it was too buggy,

751
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:04.599
and we split. We got out of there and we

752
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.800
were scared. And that's that's that story.

753
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.639
What year was that around?

754
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:13.519
That was night? That was nineteen Here I wrote it

755
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.400
down the Diamond Peak nineteen eighty seven.

756
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:22.280
Okay. Interesting, There is a report on the BFRO from

757
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:27.400
Diamond Peak Wilderness area where three hunters were out there.

758
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.440
They hear a very loud scream thirty to forty five seconds.

759
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:36.079
There are reported things from that area, at least one

760
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.280
report that's public, But that whole area, from what it

761
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:43.039
sounds like is there's activity all over the place.

762
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.840
Yeah, it's it's it is very The problem what's happened

763
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:50.920
in the last handful of years is forest fires that

764
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:55.039
ravaged some of these places where I'm telling you about

765
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:58.360
this place on the mckensee through maybe twenty twenty just

766
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:03.039
it got that whole alley got wiped out by forest fire.

767
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:05.960
The hill side and all these things happened to me

768
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:11.320
on it's gone now it's burnt. Oh wow, it's depressing.

769
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.760
It's really sad. So yeah, I don't know. It's coming

770
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.360
back a little bit. There's some greenery growing, but the

771
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:19.119
big fur I don't know how long it's going to

772
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.679
be until the fir trees come back. There's some maples

773
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.920
growing and things like that, and some ferns, but it

774
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:29.599
got cooked pretty good. I think that's about all I got.

775
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:32.880
Oh there's a couple other things if you want to

776
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.840
hear about. This happened in twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen.

777
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.000
I think somewhere in there. Like I said, I lived

778
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:44.639
in Idaho. I moved to Idaho in nineteen eighty nine

779
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:50.039
and came back in twenty twelve, and we moved back

780
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:53.760
to Central Oregon. But we still have the property on

781
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.480
the Mackenzie and I still have it today. I spent

782
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.039
a lot of time over there. But so in twenty

783
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:05.480
seventeen or eighteen, it was Thanksgiving around Thanksgiving and I

784
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.559
was out and this happened a couple of nights in

785
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:11.159
a row. It was really bizarre. I'm out in the yard.

786
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:14.119
It gets dark real early, so maybe five or six

787
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.679
in the evening, but it's pretty it's dark, and it's

788
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:21.280
pouring down rained and rained the lot over there, and

789
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.800
I don't know what I'm outside doing, using them, going

790
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.840
to the bathroom or something. And I hear what sounds

791
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:30.199
like up and it's like I had said, there's a

792
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:33.519
creek that runs through our property and it drains out

793
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:37.679
on this hillside across the road. And I heard what

794
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:43.239
sounded like the truck breaks screeching down like like it

795
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.880
sound like they're wet and screeching down a road, just

796
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:51.079
this weird, metallic, grindy sound coming from where there was

797
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:54.159
no roads at all. It was just a ravine with

798
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:57.480
a creek in it, and it was really loud and freaky.

799
00:43:57.519 --> 00:43:59.960
It was just like what the heck? But it sounded

800
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.079
just like metal on metal breaks. And I heard it

801
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:07.400
maybe two or three nights in a row, and then

802
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:11.199
on that same time for a maybe a day or

803
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:14.280
two later, and my neighbor comes over and he's maybe

804
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.599
a couple of one hundred yards down the river from me,

805
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:20.039
and he's like, man, I was in my house and

806
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:24.239
I started hearing these owls coming from your property, like

807
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:30.119
huge owls, giant owls coming from your property. So I

808
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.639
went outside and I was listening, and I could hear them.

809
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.239
They sounded like owls, but it was like they're huge

810
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.840
and the way too, but they sounded like owls, but

811
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:41.360
they didn't sound like owls because then they were huge.

812
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:44.159
And I kept so I started walking towards your property,

813
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:49.159
and that sound kept going on, but it kept moving away.

814
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.599
So the closer I'd get, the further it would they

815
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.800
would move off, until it sounded like they were in

816
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:58.079
the forest on the east side of your house, and

817
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:01.719
they just they just vanished the noise, which I again,

818
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.599
at that time Bigfoot. I had not ever heard a

819
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.800
big Foot podcast, and I just thought that was weird.

820
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:12.559
Fame with the break screaching thing. Now, knowing what I

821
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:16.760
know because of not being listened to these podcasts, it's like, huh,

822
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:19.679
you hear about al and you hear about these weird sounds.

823
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.199
I thought I'd add that to some of the things

824
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:23.159
that I've experienced.

825
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:26.760
That's probably that's some of the weirdest things. And this

826
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:30.480
is back in twenty seventeen. You said, Yeah, seventeen or eighteen,

827
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.519
I can't remember. In November, so you still own that property?

828
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.719
Oh yeah, I'm there all the time. Oh okay, And I'm

829
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:40.679
a school teacher, so I get it. I spend my

830
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:41.719
whole summer over there.

831
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:48.119
Nice anything weird sound like that sound wise happened lately

832
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:50.719
or just the last time was back in seventeen or.

833
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:51.800
Eighteen, that was it.

834
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:52.159
Yeah.

835
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.000
And then, like I said, in twenty twenty, the fires

836
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:58.079
put through there, and yeah, took everything out. But I

837
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:01.239
did set up a game cam before, and I wouldn't

838
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:04.320
get anything. I got tugers and bears and deer and turkeys.

839
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.639
That was it. But yeah, it was It sounded like

840
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:12.519
breaks screeching down coming down the creek pad basically when

841
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:14.920
there was no road. It was bizarre. And then I

842
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:16.920
had never heard the owls, but my neighbors said it

843
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:19.360
freaked them out. He said you could hear him over

844
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.880
his TV one hundred yards down river from me. So

845
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:26.480
he's an older city guy, so he didn't know what

846
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:27.079
to make of it.

847
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:32.199
I definitely feel like there's some sort of memicry that's involved.

848
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.840
You hear things like what you mentioned. You also hear

849
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:41.599
things like car doors slamming where there's no cars, or

850
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:46.639
rusty gates is one that's just it's very strange.

851
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:49.760
Yeah, the rusty metal, that's what it sounded like, rusty

852
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.360
metal and it's bizarre, and it was it was loud.

853
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.119
It was just right across the road for me up

854
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:56.480
on the villa. And then there are a couple of

855
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.800
logging roads up there, but this is nowhere near one

856
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:02.239
of the roads. Maybe just coming out of the forest.

857
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:04.039
Which knows.

858
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:09.320
You've definitely had some really interesting things happen over your

859
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:11.920
life so far, and thank you so much for sharing

860
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:17.360
with myself and the listeners. And it's amazing you still

861
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:21.880
have that property area up there. Anything else happens, definitely

862
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:23.199
feel free to reach out.

863
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:27.119
I will indeed. Yeah, thank you for having me on

864
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.840
the show. I appreciate your time and I'd love listening

865
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:31.679
to your podcast.

866
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.280
Do you think you might make it down to Oakridge

867
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:35.280
this summer coming up?

868
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.480
I'll have to look at my schedule. Yeah, i'd like to.

869
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:41.400
I've never been to one of these before. And my

870
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:46.079
twelve year old son is heavy into the whole Sasquatch things,

871
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.079
so I might bring him over and check it out,

872
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:50.199
maybe camp or something.

873
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.280
It's going to be a hop and time. If he's

874
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.719
in the Bigfoot, there's gonna be people there that it's

875
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:58.079
the time that they're in Oregon. They probably won't be

876
00:47:58.159 --> 00:47:58.679
there again.

877
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.679
But man, I know we make it over to Cliff's

878
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.199
museum once a year, little pilgrimage, So we'll go and

879
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:08.360
we'll go and get a little place in the forest

880
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.360
and go squatching and go conk to Cliff a little bit.

881
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:14.079
So that's pretty fun.

882
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:15.119
How cool is that?

883
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:15.440
Man?

884
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:19.320
Yeah, and those flips I heard, And he's got that

885
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:23.639
giant fastquatching his museum, yep, and he's got to cook

886
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:25.719
up some sound hooked up doing. That's what those whips

887
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.639
sound exactly like what he's got going on in mring Sasquatch.

888
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:32.199
I love it. Yeah, to get over there myself one day,

889
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:33.880
for sure, but it's cool.

890
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:37.239
Yeah, he keeps adding to it, so we keep going back.

891
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.800
Absolutely. Brad, Thank you so much for hanging out and

892
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.400
hope to maybe hear from you again someday in the future.

893
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:45.239
NB.

894
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:46.840
Jeremiah, thank you so much.

895
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.519
Hello, Hi, this is Jeremiah.

896
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:53.920
Hey Jeremiah. How you doing.

897
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:57.159
I'm doing great? You had called earlier, right.

898
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.360
Sir, Yes, sir, I love the message.

899
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:03.639
Perfect, perfect, and I assume since you have the phone number,

900
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:08.599
you've done the forum at an earlier time, Yes, sir, perfect.

901
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:09.719
And what's your name, sir?

902
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:10.920
My name is Mark.

903
00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:13.920
Awesome, Well, Mark, I was my last dame.

904
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:14.400
Nah.

905
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:16.840
No, we'll just keep it, okay, but I appreciate that.

906
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:21.840
So I was skimming through your skimming through your voicemail,

907
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:25.639
and it's very interesting and I'm going to go ahead

908
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.119
and give the reins over to you, Mark, and feel

909
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.800
free to share what we've got going on. All I

910
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:36.159
ask is that we keep the calls as clean language

911
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:37.599
as we can since it is live.

912
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.440
Thank you. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I do that. Yeah,

913
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:41.440
no problem.

914
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:44.239
Okay, go right ahead, sir.

915
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.079
All right. Yeah. My name is Mark and I'm from Oregon,

916
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:55.239
foreign to organ and I've been in Oregon now for

917
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:59.880
twelve years. And I'm originally from Ohio. Matter of fact,

918
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:05.880
uh right there in angel Ohio where sought forth is

919
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.760
State Park where the Grassman is had an the counter there.

920
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:13.440
I didn't really see him there, but I knew he

921
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:19.199
was there. And I, me and my girlfriend went camping

922
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:22.480
and it was in uh the end of October, and

923
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:26.719
in the October, we have Indians somewhere, and it was

924
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:30.440
a very nice weekend. So we decided we'd stayed over

925
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.000
one more night. Well, everybody left. It was a Sunday,

926
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:37.119
and everybody left. I mean there was not one person

927
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:42.559
in this whole park except me and her. Well we uh,

928
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:48.239
I'll make it real quick. We went down to take

929
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:52.639
a shower and when we pulled in, I didn't it

930
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:57.440
didn't feel right, and something was just not right. So

931
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:01.639
she got out of the vigorge, she went in. She

932
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:04.639
was taking her you know, her shower, and you could

933
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:06.920
hear her in there singing, you know, and I thought, well,

934
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:13.639
it's just me, it's my imagination. And so I said, hmm,

935
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:16.679
all right, Well I went in and take my shower,

936
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.679
and there's windows up and there are like seven eight

937
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:25.440
foot up these land windows, and uh, I just I

938
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:28.559
don't know, it just not like someone was watching me

939
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.559
the whole time. I just could not shake this ceiling.

940
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:36.159
I mean it was kind of scary, and so I

941
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:40.320
went back out and walked the whole perimeter of it

942
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:42.880
and just looked around to see if somebody was there.

943
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:48.000
You know, I just it was weird. So I had

944
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:52.360
my dog with these. He was a wolf hybrid and

945
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:57.199
named the Coda, and he was the doll. Was the

946
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:00.599
best doll, kny, I just can't tell you, I mean

947
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.159
man's companion. Well, anyway, I got him out of the

948
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.320
truck and I took him into the restroom with me,

949
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:10.719
because I mean it was I just couldn't get the

950
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:17.440
ceiling off of me. So I I brought him in

951
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.599
the bathroom and I said, now you just lay down there. Well,

952
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.400
he couldn't get comfortable. He was just looking around and

953
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.400
just I could tell something to bother this doll. So

954
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:30.039
I got the tower and I tell how bad it was.

955
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:33.440
I didn't even close the curtain in the shower when

956
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:36.000
I was taking my shower. You know, I was that

957
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:40.199
it was that bad. It was that intense. So I

958
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:43.400
got done, you know, I take the dog out, you know,

959
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.039
and I throw him back up in the truck and

960
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.599
I'm sitting there waiting on my girlfriend to getting done

961
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.880
in the shower and you know, and out she comes

962
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.599
out of the shower, you know, and I wasn't going

963
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.000
to say anything, kirks. I didn't want her to be scared,

964
00:52:55.599 --> 00:53:00.320
you know, and you know, I just I was like, no,

965
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.480
I'm not going to say a word. I'm just gonna

966
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.320
just go back to camp. Just you know, it's all

967
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:08.119
on my head, you know, after I kept saying to myself,

968
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:11.360
it's on your head, marks on your head. So we

969
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:14.320
go back and we make our dinner and you know,

970
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:17.000
sat around the campfire for a little bit, drank a

971
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:20.880
couple of drinks and you know, said, okay, well we

972
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:23.239
had an old coolman kent. I don't know if you

973
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:26.079
remember them, but they were round and they had to

974
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:28.719
pull it went up in the center and it's about

975
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:32.719
all seven foot tall, maybe a little bit taller than that.

976
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:35.039
I could stand up in it, you know, no problem,

977
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:39.079
loop arms brown, you know, I mean, it just really tall.

978
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:43.800
So I got everything in the can, you know, you know,

979
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.000
I packed all the all the food up in the

980
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.719
truck and you know, went in the tent they did,

981
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:52.400
and I had my pistol with me. I always taken

982
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:57.639
because bears and you know, whatever varmits or you don't know,

983
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:03.039
you know, anymore about people. So I put the gun

984
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:04.679
down next to me. Well, I had to call my

985
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:09.360
lantern next to me, so it was right right next

986
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:11.719
to the edge of the tent, so I shut it off,

987
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:16.400
you know, while we're laying there, and I hear something

988
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.199
walking up this hill, I mean it was a big

989
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.840
hill too, went right down to the lake. And I'm like, well,

990
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:27.519
that's a person walking. And my girlfriend's like, no, it's

991
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:32.559
a deer. No, that's something walking up this hill coming

992
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:38.559
toward us. Well, it got closer and closer and closer,

993
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:42.039
and my dog was just his hair was up on

994
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:45.960
the back with no just standing right up on the

995
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:48.800
back of neck. And I'm like, there's something out there.

996
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:51.320
But I told him you lay down, you know, just

997
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:56.960
chill out and lay down right there. Well, you know,

998
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.599
we're laying there from man, and all of a sudden

999
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:03.440
you hear it come up to the top where our

1000
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:06.159
tent was right next to it, and you could hear

1001
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.840
it breathe, i mean exhale, and you could tell whatever

1002
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:15.639
it was it was huge, okay, And I'm like, sh quiet,

1003
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.679
and she was My girlfriend was almost in tears. She

1004
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:24.880
was so scared. You know, and I said, just cool.

1005
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:30.239
You know. Well, next thing we know, something had grabbed

1006
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.039
the center of that tent and that ten seven and

1007
00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:36.360
seven foot seven and a half foot tall grabbed the

1008
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:40.880
center of that tent and shook it, just shook it.

1009
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:45.039
And I swear to god, it only lasted maybe all

1010
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:48.400
twenty seconds, but it felt like two hours. And the

1011
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:50.840
cool lander hit me in the side of the head

1012
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.719
and it was hot still, you know, I just shut

1013
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.960
it off. So I grabbed my pistol and I said,

1014
00:55:56.519 --> 00:56:00.679
I got a pistol, you know, go away, because I

1015
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:02.800
didn't know if it was a person. I didn't know

1016
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:05.039
what it was, but I know it was big whatever

1017
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:10.719
it was, right, So it started slapping the side of

1018
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:15.159
the tent. And by this time, my girlfriend's in tears,

1019
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.239
just going hysterical. The dog's going crazy. I mean, it

1020
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:20.440
was just like, oh, what am I going to do here?

1021
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:24.639
So I said, I gotta do something. I reached down

1022
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:28.000
to grab the zipper of that tent. And you know

1023
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:31.280
how that's always got that little part in it, the

1024
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:36.079
nylon that locks into the zipper. Oh, I was doing

1025
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:39.960
everything I could unlock that zipper stood raise up and

1026
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.000
open up so I could get out. So by this

1027
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:47.800
time I'm hearing it going back down the hill, okay,

1028
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:53.679
and I pulled it un tent do it? I mean,

1029
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:55.760
I was just gonna rip it open. I didn't care

1030
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:58.639
at that point because I was so scared. I mean

1031
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:02.679
I was. I always shot it right there on the spot,

1032
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:06.599
you know, if I could have got out. Well, pretty

1033
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:10.119
soon she got it done. Zip. I jump out and

1034
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:12.800
I'm hearing it going down that down the side of

1035
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:17.119
the hill, and the dog takes off after it, and

1036
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.480
I hear it gyuilp my dog, yelp. Well here he

1037
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:25.880
comes running back and he dives into his tent and

1038
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:28.679
it's like, wow, what was wrong with you? This thought

1039
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:31.519
was not afraid of nothing. This thought would take on

1040
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:34.119
a mountain line and not even think nothing about it.

1041
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:39.119
He was just protected. I mean, that was that he's

1042
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:44.320
a wolf. Well, so I said, well, what was all?

1043
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:49.000
You know? What was that? Well, I jump out. I'm

1044
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:54.199
looking for tracks, you know, we never could ever find

1045
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:56.719
out and what it was. It was dry. It was

1046
00:57:56.760 --> 00:57:59.360
so dry. I wasn't going to leave a track, you know,

1047
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:03.679
it was so dry. And uh so that was my

1048
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:10.360
first encounter with as sat was a bigfoot okay, Well

1049
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:13.679
the grass man, they said, because I talked to Rainsy

1050
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:17.440
when Ranger came around to collect the dudes for the campsite,

1051
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:20.360
I said, you know, I think we had an encounter.

1052
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:24.039
He's like, well, you know, we have a lot of

1053
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:26.320
encounters here. And I was telling him about you know.

1054
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:30.920
He's like, well, really, I really do believe you really did.

1055
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:35.000
And my girlfriend said, we're packing up now, Let's leave

1056
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:38.559
right now, and she would not stay there again. We

1057
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:43.599
packed all that stuff up, went home. Well, we moved

1058
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:49.599
to Oregon about three months later, and uh, there was

1059
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:53.159
no jobs here at the time. I mean, the market

1060
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:56.760
for jobs was really bad at the time. And I said, well,

1061
00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:58.280
what am I going to do to make money here?

1062
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.880
Extra money or something? You know. I'm retired from Honda

1063
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:07.880
Murder Corporation. I was an automotive engineer there. And uh uh,

1064
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:10.000
I said, so what am I going to do? And

1065
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:14.920
some guys, oh, do collect chantrell They pay you know,

1066
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:19.039
good money. Well, I'm collected. I've always collected moral mushrooms

1067
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:21.639
in Ohio my whole life, you know, and all kinds

1068
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.599
of mushrooms. But I didn't know what a chantrell was.

1069
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:27.039
So they had to show me. Well, I got a

1070
00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:33.480
crew together of nine uh Mexican women that works for

1071
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:37.119
this lady. And she said, all these are great pictures.

1072
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.239
Take them out, you know, to take them on god

1073
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:45.000
given peg. They're great workers. So we went out mushroom

1074
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:48.159
hunting and we'd go on all the back rooms, all

1075
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:50.760
of them. And we did very, very very well. We

1076
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:53.960
had a crew of mine, you know, them and me

1077
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:59.199
and ten people. We did very well commercially. Chichenese. Well.

1078
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:08.159
Day we were over by h Alpine Monroe area and

1079
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:12.280
uh in Oregon and uh it was up on.

1080
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:19.079
The hill and they were the women were all down

1081
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:21.719
below the hill down because we found a lot of

1082
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:25.119
entrunks all up the side of this hill and they

1083
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:28.159
were just having a last picking these things, laughing.

1084
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:31.519
And having a good time. That's thing. I know. I

1085
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:32.840
was up on the top of the hill because I

1086
01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:35.719
wanted to see what was on the other side. And

1087
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:41.599
there was a clearing, you know, like oh where the

1088
01:00:41.639 --> 01:00:44.480
trees ended, you know, and then they had long this

1089
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:49.039
part in their trees up here. Well, pretty soon there

1090
01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:52.840
was a roar and I'm not I'm not kiddy. This

1091
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:57.519
roar was like nothing I've ever ever heard in my

1092
01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:02.039
whole entire life. This shook me up a minute, and

1093
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:07.360
I was like, what is that? And next next thing,

1094
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:10.920
I know, there was this thing was coming through the trees.

1095
01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:14.679
I mean it was big, whatever it was, and I thought,

1096
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:19.119
what is that? I didn't know. I didn't have any idea.

1097
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.320
You know, I'm from Ohio. You know, we don't have

1098
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.519
nothing like that there. You know what we do, we

1099
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:29.039
have the grass Man. But anyway, this thing was coming

1100
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:32.400
up through the trees like King Kong. I swear to god,

1101
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:35.960
that's that's exactly what it reminded me of. It was

1102
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:41.360
just knocking limbs down, breaking limbs, breaking the tree, you know,

1103
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:46.840
just coming up this out of the clearing. Next thing,

1104
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:51.320
I know, there he was right there. I mean he

1105
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:59.719
was probably all probably thirty yards from me, if that much.

1106
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:04.400
And all I had on me was a block nine milimeter,

1107
01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:07.639
you know, and I knew this was not going to

1108
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:11.800
do anything to you. This thing was huge. It was

1109
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:17.920
probably a good eight foot just I mean, I've never

1110
01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.239
seen no man ever built like this in my whole

1111
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:25.719
entire life. His chest was huge, probably a good I

1112
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:29.199
swear he had to be at least four foot wide.

1113
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:33.320
I mean, just huge. I've never seen anything like this

1114
01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:38.519
in my life. And my mind is like, it's like

1115
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:42.880
telling me this don't exist, This don't exist, This is

1116
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:47.039
a figment of your imagination. Mark. I mean, I just couldn't.

1117
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:49.880
I just couldn't get it in my head. What I

1118
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:54.280
was looking at. Well, these ladies down below that were

1119
01:02:54.280 --> 01:02:58.239
picking the mushrooms, they all were like real quiet, pointing

1120
01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:00.639
at it, and they had their telephones. They were taking

1121
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:05.239
pictures of their telephones, and I mean they were like

1122
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:11.840
flipping out. Well, uh, he's looking right at me and

1123
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:15.039
never took his eyes off me, And I'm staring back again,

1124
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:17.840
like what is going on here? What are you going

1125
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.079
to do? You know, are you going to come at me?

1126
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:25.079
I had no idea. I couldn't. My brain just would

1127
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:30.280
not would not function. It would Number one tatosk our Truth.

1128
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:36.119
I peed my pants. I was that scared. I didn't

1129
01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:39.199
know what to do. I mean, the van's way down

1130
01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:42.440
at Baumba Hill where they were, so I'm streaming at him,

1131
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:48.519
Get in the van, Get in the van right now. Well,

1132
01:03:48.599 --> 01:03:53.440
my dog was in the van because we were having

1133
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:57.440
problems with deer and elk, and he'd take off running

1134
01:03:57.480 --> 01:03:59.880
after deer and elk. And I got tired of that.

1135
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:03.079
Now you're in the van until you could act right.

1136
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:07.880
You know, Well, he's raising Holy Kane. She has Holy

1137
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.239
Kane in his van, and I told him, don't let

1138
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:16.880
that dog out, Do not let that dog out. Well, uh,

1139
01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:20.840
this thing was started looking at me and then it

1140
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:24.079
started coming at me. And it was like, now what

1141
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:26.199
am I going to do? He's going to kill me?

1142
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:29.400
This is I'm going to get killed right here. You

1143
01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:31.880
know what am I gonna do? Well, I put my

1144
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:35.639
gun and I mean I shot it right over the head,

1145
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:39.239
get right over it head. I mean that's all I

1146
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:43.960
could do was hopefully get a shot that would have

1147
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.440
wound it or hurt it. Because he was going to

1148
01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:48.320
kill me. I know he was going he was going

1149
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:51.440
to hurt me bad if he got me. Well, he

1150
01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:55.920
reared back when I shot that gun, and and his teeth.

1151
01:04:56.480 --> 01:05:02.599
I mean he looked dame. He was dude, if I

1152
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:07.039
get a hold of you, I'm going to hurt you bad. Okay,

1153
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:10.400
he was not afraid, but he was afraid of that gun.

1154
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:14.039
So he must have hurt it once before. So he

1155
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:18.440
had to hurt a gun once before because he reared back. Okay,

1156
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:22.440
next thing, I know he's turning around, but he's keeping

1157
01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:25.280
his eyes on me as he's walked back up into

1158
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:29.719
those trees. Right. So I said, Okay, I don't want

1159
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:32.320
to run because because I don't want him to chase.

1160
01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:36.679
You know, a predator chases you. That's exactly what he was.

1161
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:38.679
As far as I was concerned with a predator. He

1162
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:41.760
was a wild animal. He wasn't a human. I mean

1163
01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:47.559
he looked human in ways, like the face I mean

1164
01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:51.239
he was. He was brown, like a brown or like

1165
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:54.239
a brown black. You know, he's so brown. He was black,

1166
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:59.400
and he had the hair on the like four inch hair,

1167
01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:04.880
all with body except for his face and his eyes.

1168
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:06.920
I'll never forget his eyes as long as I live.

1169
01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:10.000
And I still have nightmares o where they were like

1170
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:15.000
piercing me. They were like going right through me. I mean,

1171
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:19.519
I've never seen eyes like that in my whole entire life. Never, never, never,

1172
01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:23.440
don't ever want to again either. Okay, And I'm thinking,

1173
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:27.800
you know, I always wanted to see Bigfoot, but I

1174
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.840
didn't want to see it like this. You know, I

1175
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:35.760
didn't know it would be an aggressive thing. I thought

1176
01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:38.360
it would be like you know when you see you

1177
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:40.639
hear people talk. Oh hey, you cross the road right

1178
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:42.880
in front of me. You know, just idea he's by

1179
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:45.800
waving act you as he's doing. He's probably a friendly guy,

1180
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.840
you know, just wants to be left alone. Okay, and

1181
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:51.719
not this.

1182
01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:57.000
Well, can we ask some questions about what you saw?

1183
01:06:57.440 --> 01:06:59.159
I'm sorry, yes, yes.

1184
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:02.920
There's some really interesting comments coming in. So you were

1185
01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:06.280
able to see the teeth? Were they like canine teeth

1186
01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:09.360
or all flat like uh chick lit gum?

1187
01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:12.599
They were like block teeth, like a block teeth, you know,

1188
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:17.960
like you know what I'm talking about. They were square

1189
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:23.480
blocked me. You shoot me, you shoot me, every one

1190
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:30.320
of them. Okay, Okay, I mean I grew up in

1191
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:33.320
the woods. I've been in the woods my whole entire life.

1192
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:36.559
When I was a kid, you know, summer June, June

1193
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:39.079
first to be there and well I wouldn't see my

1194
01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:45.519
parents again into August stuff. Okay, I mean I hunted.

1195
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:49.480
I think I did everything in the woods. Okay, my

1196
01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:53.320
whole life, I've been like that. And you know, it's

1197
01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:56.679
like I've never seen anything like this. What is this thing?

1198
01:07:56.719 --> 01:07:59.000
And then it dawned on me this is what they

1199
01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:04.679
call bigfoot. Okay, Well, these ladies. These ladies in the

1200
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:08.480
van were so scared. I mean they were screaming and stuffing,

1201
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:11.920
and I had them screaming. I had the dog going

1202
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:15.760
off down there. I have him growling and screaming at

1203
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:18.760
me like he wants to kill me. Okay, after he

1204
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:22.279
comes through the woods like tinklm. Okay, I mean I

1205
01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:25.359
was scared. I'm not telling. I won't lie to you.

1206
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:30.520
I'm not. I was petrified. Okay. I'm thinking, why those

1207
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:35.560
saves them? Okay, I gotta save myself. But I much

1208
01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:37.680
rather he got me than all nine of them. Because

1209
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:41.800
he gets me. The keys are in ignition, they will leave, okay,

1210
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:48.279
all right. Well, so so when he left, you can

1211
01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:53.880
hear him just raising king going back to the trees. Right. Well,

1212
01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:59.000
somebody let the dog out. Okay. I couldn't say grand

1213
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:04.079
the dog, but the dog chasing this thing down the trees.

1214
01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:07.439
And I'm hearing the Holy King going on with this

1215
01:09:07.720 --> 01:09:11.640
dog in him is at it, okay, and I'm thinking,

1216
01:09:11.640 --> 01:09:13.359
oh my god, he's gonna kill my dog. He'sn'na kill

1217
01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:15.199
a dog. Next thing I know, all I heard was

1218
01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:20.800
a yelp and they're hurt. Nothing else, Okay, Yeah, dead quiet,

1219
01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:27.880
dead quiet. Well, you know, I couldn't leave these women

1220
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:31.319
down in the van, so I but I knew the

1221
01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:34.000
dog would come out eventually, you know, if if you know,

1222
01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:37.399
if he didn't killing, he was coming out. So I

1223
01:09:37.439 --> 01:09:40.720
went down to the van and I told him, look,

1224
01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:44.840
I want you to go find a park ranger, a

1225
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:49.600
police officer, somebody, and I want him up here. Came

1226
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:51.680
my dog's gone now and I gotta find a dog.

1227
01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:54.399
And they were like, oh, we're so scared, we're scared,

1228
01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:59.920
which I said, take the van and find somebody. Okay, Well,

1229
01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:04.279
I mean I had my cell phone, but there was

1230
01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:06.399
no service where we was at. I mean it was

1231
01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:11.000
in the middle of nowhere. So I said, just go

1232
01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:14.720
to the range station and get somebody hurt. Find the

1233
01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:17.039
police station and go to Mont Road. They have a

1234
01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:23.399
substation there, you know. Well, they went and about and

1235
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:25.720
I stood there for him, thinking, oh, I gotta find

1236
01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:27.880
my dog. He is a dog. He's not out yet,

1237
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:33.239
you know. So I took off to find him and

1238
01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:38.920
I went in about fifty yards and I still crying

1239
01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:41.680
this day because this ball was the best dog I

1240
01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:47.039
ever had my life. Here's my dog. He's hanging from

1241
01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:55.079
him about twelve foot up okay, did And I was like,

1242
01:10:56.319 --> 01:11:01.560
you know, you have to be a priest roll saying

1243
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:05.439
human animal, whatever you want to call this thing to

1244
01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:08.680
throw that dog you weighed one hundred and twenty six

1245
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:15.079
pounds up twelve feet into a tree. Okay. And then

1246
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:19.800
I look around and you know, there's the rims for

1247
01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:22.159
like a semi that they used for the fire pit.

1248
01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:26.399
There was two of them up there. Now you know,

1249
01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:31.479
you know how heavy nose are. Now I'll look at

1250
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:36.840
those goes, what the heck? And this this it was

1251
01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:40.279
like a picnic pavilion type thing that was up there

1252
01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:43.720
for I guess somebody built it for their family and

1253
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:45.840
they pay camped there a lot. They used it, you

1254
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:48.560
know when they went camping there. You know, this thing

1255
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:52.399
was demolished. It was tore up. And there's the two

1256
01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:55.840
firings in this tree. They're about ten foot up there,

1257
01:11:55.880 --> 01:12:02.520
and there's my dog. So about all probably a half

1258
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:06.399
hour later, here they come and they've got a a

1259
01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:10.479
park ranger, a rader, you know, get our guy. And

1260
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:15.159
I said, Sarah, can you can you come here? I

1261
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:17.520
got I'm gonna tell you. I said, I'll tell you

1262
01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:20.640
the story. And and you know you know what he

1263
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:24.600
tells me, Just what he tells me. Please don't tell

1264
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:28.359
me you saw a big foot clothing you do? He said. Now,

1265
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:30.239
I don't know if this is fact or not, but

1266
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:34.079
he said, if you do, then I'm gonna have to

1267
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:39.319
take your driver's license. Now. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have

1268
01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:43.840
to take your driver's license because you're not You're not sensible,

1269
01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:47.239
you're not thinking correctly. I said, what are you talking

1270
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:53.000
about my driver's license? Yeah, it's I I don't know

1271
01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:55.640
if it's true or it's not. I've tried to find

1272
01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:59.439
out from every state highway control I can talk to

1273
01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:02.159
about it and stuff. They said they can take your

1274
01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:07.000
driver's license if you report you saw a bigfoot while

1275
01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.520
you're driving a vehicle. If the keys are in ignition,

1276
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:15.479
then there's something wrong with you. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly

1277
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:18.119
what he said. I said, Wait a minute, look my dog.

1278
01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:21.560
My dog's twelve feet yet and I measured it. My

1279
01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:23.920
dog's twelve feet in year, one hundred and twenty six

1280
01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:27.279
pound dog. How did my dog get up there? I

1281
01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:29.880
had them in a mountain lion and he drug him

1282
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:32.199
up there. Oh no no no no no no no

1283
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:35.319
no no no no, no, no, no, no no. Ask

1284
01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:38.760
them women what they saw. Ask them they got pictures

1285
01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:43.279
on their telephones. Ask them. He said, look, I'm not

1286
01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:48.079
here to discuss this with you anymore. Now what is

1287
01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:50.760
it you saw? And he made me appear like I

1288
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:55.439
was a liar, like I was nuts, and oh I

1289
01:13:55.479 --> 01:14:00.600
took offense to that, and he's like, sir, now so down,

1290
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:05.079
we can go downtown and talk about it. He did

1291
01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:09.600
not care one bit. He didn't care what I saw what.

1292
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:13.319
He did not care about it. And think he got

1293
01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:17.239
the way he played. Okay, well pretty soon here coach

1294
01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:20.640
two more And I said, well, can't you just go

1295
01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:24.319
up there and investigate it and see what knocked? Outs?

1296
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:28.359
Were broke everywhere? This, this pavilions all busted up. He

1297
01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:33.199
got tire rims, semi tire rims in a tree ten

1298
01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:36.039
foot up. The weigh probably one hundred and fifty five

1299
01:14:36.119 --> 01:14:40.840
hundred and sixty pounds. You know, it's like, wait a minute, okay,

1300
01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:46.520
how did those get up there? Are kids, kids, kids,

1301
01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:51.520
just they just vandalism, They just destroy everything. I could

1302
01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:55.359
not believe what I was hearing. I was so mad.

1303
01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:58.840
I was so it's like, you're not going to take

1304
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:01.960
any kind of report. Oh, I'll take a report, and

1305
01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:10.319
then I'll take your license. What what you know I

1306
01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:14.000
think he cared about was how many mushrooms did we pick?

1307
01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:17.159
And did I have a commercial permit? That's what he

1308
01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:20.680
asked me. He did not care about my dog, He

1309
01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:23.800
did not care about our well being, he did not

1310
01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:27.439
care what we saw. He did not care about anything.

1311
01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:30.960
But yet he would not go any further into the

1312
01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:35.760
woods by hisself. Okay, I said, go ahead, go down

1313
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:40.359
and investigate that. Do your investigation, because I'm telling you

1314
01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:43.920
what I saw. Don't stand here. Look, I have an

1315
01:15:43.960 --> 01:15:49.399
automotive engineer. I am highly educated. I didn't believe in

1316
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:52.479
it either. If you would have told me, you know,

1317
01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:56.600
five years before that I was gonna see big flood,

1318
01:15:56.680 --> 01:16:00.159
I'd be like, yeah, sure I will, okay, yeah, sure, sure,

1319
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:05.600
you know. Let me tell you it exists. I don't

1320
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:09.439
care what anybody ever says to me about it. I

1321
01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:12.880
know what I saw. Okay, So there is no argument

1322
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:15.960
of they don't exist. Well, you better come up with

1323
01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:18.680
a little bit more of an argument than that, okay,

1324
01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:23.000
because because if you would have been there that day,

1325
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:26.520
you'd be the same way I am now and you

1326
01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:30.279
know that was That's been what twelve years ago, and

1327
01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:34.520
you know, I haven't been in the woods one day since.

1328
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:39.560
Don't care to, don't care to ever go back in

1329
01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:47.000
the woods. None. None. And I live in Scottsburgh, Oregon

1330
01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:50.640
now and which surrounded my mountains and woods. Okay, but

1331
01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:58.760
I won't go into the woods. I'll state, okay, no way,

1332
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:06.640
no way at all, okay, because I know what's out there.

1333
01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:11.439
I know what's out there. I've seen it now. I

1334
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:15.640
believe they're migratory. You know, they followed like where their

1335
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:18.600
food sorts this. You know, they go from north to south.

1336
01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:21.760
You know that they're salm and the berry's that, you

1337
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:24.119
know whatever, the deer of the elk. You know. I

1338
01:17:24.199 --> 01:17:29.079
believe they're migratory, and I do believe that they do.

1339
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:34.199
They do go underground where there's lava tubes and stuff.

1340
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:42.039
I do believe that, Okay. But how he just disappears, well,

1341
01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:45.880
I don't understand he was. I heard him kill my

1342
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:50.279
dog and then it was dead silence like like it

1343
01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:54.359
just disappeared like he was you know what I'm saying.

1344
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:59.199
That's I have so many questions that I'd like somebody

1345
01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:01.239
to answer that they.

1346
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:04.640
Can't absolutely why I'd be the same way.

1347
01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:04.920
Mark.

1348
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:07.319
Yeah, I'm sorry you last your dog.

1349
01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:12.199
Yeah you know you said good dog too. You know,

1350
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.159
he would have died for me, and he did die

1351
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:19.840
for me. He died protecting us. Okay, well, you know what,

1352
01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:24.319
not one of them nine women ever went back in

1353
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:28.680
the woods again, none of them. As a matter of fact,

1354
01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:33.640
a lot of them went back to Mexico. D Lady's

1355
01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:36.199
asking the lady that hired him, She's like, what do

1356
01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:39.600
you get to him? I can't get him to work? Well, yeah,

1357
01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:44.439
he won't. I'm not working for you anymore. I'm not

1358
01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:48.640
working in the woods anymore. I don't do that anymore. Sorry. No,

1359
01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:52.199
I used to love the camp. I used to love

1360
01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:54.159
to go out and fish. You know, I'd be a

1361
01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:56.640
spirit lake out there in the middle of nowhere, you know,

1362
01:18:56.840 --> 01:18:59.880
I mean, you know, I know where no man would go,

1363
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:02.079
you know, But not anymore? Mark?

1364
01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:05.800
Sorry? Is that is that spirit lake by Oakridge?

1365
01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:10.239
Yes? Yes, okay, I used to love to go there.

1366
01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:13.720
Did I used to love to go there?

1367
01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:16.560
Okay, So I have I have questions, Mark, I'm gonna

1368
01:19:16.600 --> 01:19:19.960
we're gonna put a pin in that first. Did the

1369
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:22.920
ladies did you ever see the photos that they took.

1370
01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:29.319
Yes, yes, like they were way down the bottom of

1371
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:31.239
the hill, but you can see it. I mean it

1372
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:34.199
looks like it looks like it's just a big gorilla,

1373
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:37.800
is what it appears. That it had the cone head,

1374
01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:41.840
you know, like an acorn head, and no neck that

1375
01:19:41.960 --> 01:19:46.279
I saw. I mean there was hardly any any neck. Okay.

1376
01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:51.199
The arms were were like down back his knees. That's

1377
01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:54.079
what really got me, Like, how awkward do you look

1378
01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:58.760
like he was? He was. I mean he moved by

1379
01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:03.359
nothing I'd ever seen moved and fast. He was quick,

1380
01:20:04.239 --> 01:20:07.199
and I mean he I think if you really want

1381
01:20:07.239 --> 01:20:09.920
to do, he could have gotten me really quick. You

1382
01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:12.760
wouldn't have been afraid of that gun. But I know

1383
01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:15.159
he's hurt a gun because just the way he reacted

1384
01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:18.600
when I shot it, Okay, and I knew I only

1385
01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:21.039
had you know, the only way I was going to

1386
01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:24.199
hurt him was a head shot basically, and that's where

1387
01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:27.239
I was heading. I mean, I'm sorry, I don't want

1388
01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:29.920
to see him die. I don't think nothing like that

1389
01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:32.279
should die. I think something like that should be studied.

1390
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:38.159
You know, it's a bear. When did the organ cody

1391
01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:40.560
acts and that's what it looked like. Mark.

1392
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:42.600
Did you happen to get the photo any of the

1393
01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:45.640
photos from those ladies I got?

1394
01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:49.319
I got some on my SIM card on my telephone.

1395
01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:56.560
But but that okay, how do I put it?

1396
01:20:56.680 --> 01:20:56.920
Okay?

1397
01:20:56.920 --> 01:21:01.640
Okay? The phone died? Okay, the phone died, well, the

1398
01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:04.600
battery just went to boot. Well, there's SIM cards there,

1399
01:21:05.239 --> 01:21:07.760
but somebody said, if you don't do it right, you're

1400
01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:10.239
going to erase everything on a SIM card. I got

1401
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:15.000
the phone, and I want it professionally done, okay, and

1402
01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:17.880
I just have it. I just haven't had it done,

1403
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:22.920
but I want it professionally done when when it's done,

1404
01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:28.720
because you might only get one shot, okay. And I

1405
01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:32.279
tried to download it on a computer once and it

1406
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:35.640
acted like it was going to erase everything. And I

1407
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:39.279
know I gan't didn't know, So that's why I want

1408
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:42.000
it professionally done. And I swear when I get it done,

1409
01:21:42.039 --> 01:21:45.880
and it's going to be soon, because I want questions answered.

1410
01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:50.399
I want somebody to tell me where did this come from?

1411
01:21:50.439 --> 01:21:53.680
Did we create this? You know? Is this a man

1412
01:21:53.720 --> 01:21:57.199
made thing? Or is this from a thousand years ago

1413
01:21:57.319 --> 01:22:01.600
that's evolved and still around or because it did it

1414
01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:07.600
look like a man gorilla. Does that make sense?

1415
01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:10.439
No, it totally does it. I hope that you are

1416
01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:13.119
able to get the photos off of those that sim

1417
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:16.119
card And definitely I would love it if you you

1418
01:22:16.199 --> 01:22:19.039
keep me in the loop with what happens with that mark?

1419
01:22:19.159 --> 01:22:24.000
Are you you want to do the bigfoot thing right?

1420
01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:24.680
I'll be there.

1421
01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:27.279
I want to look you up. I'm going to look

1422
01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:29.079
you up when I if you.

1423
01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:31.640
Don't mind do yeah?

1424
01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:34.800
And uh, okay, and that's when is.

1425
01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:39.640
That that is jely I want to say, July nineteenth

1426
01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:41.720
coming up is when it starts.

1427
01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:44.880
Okay, you know what I'm going to make. I'm gonna

1428
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:47.119
I'm going to put big effort and the get this

1429
01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:48.239
thing developed.

1430
01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:51.760
Please, And you're the only one I want to see

1431
01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:55.000
see You're the only one I want to look at

1432
01:22:55.279 --> 01:22:59.119
because you know, I want you to just tell me

1433
01:22:59.159 --> 01:22:59.840
what you see.

1434
01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:03.159
Okay, Okay, you tell me what you see?

1435
01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:03.880
Yes, sir?

1436
01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:07.560
Right when I look at I know what it was

1437
01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:13.079
because you know, so my my opinion means nothing those

1438
01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:15.479
words because I know what it was. But I want

1439
01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.039
somebody that don't have no idea about nothing to look

1440
01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:22.600
at that picture and tell me what it is. Okay,

1441
01:23:22.680 --> 01:23:25.359
and I'm going to get it professionally done, trust.

1442
01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:28.800
Me, absolutely, like try to get maybe printed out, try

1443
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:33.079
to get the digital version. But I wanted to talk

1444
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:35.479
to you about Spirit Lake because Spirit Lake I've talked

1445
01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:38.359
to a gentleman about and they had some really intense

1446
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:43.720
Bigfoot sightings at that lake, which is pretty remote out

1447
01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:49.199
there by Oakridge and Macready Springs.

1448
01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:52.600
I had two buddies that went up there and had

1449
01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:57.079
the same thing. Okay, but I used to go up

1450
01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:00.319
there all the time. I had problems bears. I never

1451
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:02.319
had a problem with them big foot or anything. But

1452
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:05.159
I had two buddies that went up there that they

1453
01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:08.560
were literally scared out. They never saw anything, they just

1454
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:13.680
heard like it was yeah, like it was uh like

1455
01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:16.880
it was you know, like, oh, what's the world when

1456
01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:22.399
he like, uh like, oh what's the world? Like trying

1457
01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:25.039
to get them like trapping them like you know what

1458
01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:31.239
I'm saying, Yeah, and uh And they're going to be

1459
01:24:31.319 --> 01:24:33.439
with me at the Bigfoot. They all have them tell

1460
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:37.319
you their little story because yeah, they will, they will.

1461
01:24:37.600 --> 01:24:42.640
This one will scare you.

1462
01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:44.560
This is going to be intense.

1463
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.439
I'm telling you. Everything I'm telling you now is honest

1464
01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:51.680
to god truth. I have no reason to lie. Why

1465
01:24:51.720 --> 01:24:52.640
would I lie.

1466
01:24:54.199 --> 01:24:54.600
You?

1467
01:24:54.720 --> 01:25:00.720
I mean, I mean to hear somebody tell you this. Yeah,

1468
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:03.000
you know, if somebody ten minutes, I'd be like, yeah,

1469
01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:09.399
you were to take a nap, okay. But what I'm

1470
01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:13.239
telling you, every bit of it is a gospel truth,

1471
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:17.399
every bit of it. And I mean, I'll tell you

1472
01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:21.119
the same story. And you asked me next next week

1473
01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:23.199
to sit tell me, and I'll tell you the exact

1474
01:25:23.279 --> 01:25:26.640
same story. And it's not because I rehearse nothing. It's

1475
01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:29.119
because it's all going through my brain. I mean, there

1476
01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:36.079
are times I've missed telling you too, you know. Oh, buddy,

1477
01:25:36.159 --> 01:25:40.119
I can't wait. I'm so glad. I am so glad

1478
01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:43.399
that I met you. I am so glad because I'll

1479
01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:46.640
tell you. I just want question. I want my government

1480
01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:51.039
to answer my questions. And you know what I'd really

1481
01:25:51.159 --> 01:25:55.840
like is is if there's been a big foot sighted there,

1482
01:25:55.960 --> 01:25:59.479
you know wherever, just put up a sign that says, look,

1483
01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:02.359
we're being a big foot side of there. So if

1484
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:04.840
you've got children, we're going to give you the option.

1485
01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:07.760
You don't have to stay here. You go down the road,

1486
01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:13.119
not inside it, okay, But but they need to put

1487
01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:17.479
something up. I don't care what it is, okay. I

1488
01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.560
mean they said, oh, they can't say it existed, it'll

1489
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:24.319
ruin the timber industry. No it won't. How's it going

1490
01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:27.319
to ruin the timber industry? This thing migrates. It's not

1491
01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:29.920
like it lives on one spot like the spot it

1492
01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:34.520
out does. Okay, I mean, uh, a small there's one

1493
01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:38.159
area to whole life a bigfoot, don't. I mean there's

1494
01:26:38.279 --> 01:26:42.279
I guess there are some that do you know where

1495
01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:46.079
they're where? They have the resources to live year round,

1496
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:50.239
but I think three quarters i'd pass a nine tents

1497
01:26:50.279 --> 01:26:55.359
of migrate okay, And they got little plans. Okay. I

1498
01:26:55.399 --> 01:26:59.439
mean that's why they don't find a body, because I

1499
01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:03.359
guarantee you if somebody shoots one, you better be prepared

1500
01:27:03.359 --> 01:27:05.399
to take on about eight or ten of them.

1501
01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:09.000
Because they're coming, absolutely, okay, absolutely, okay.

1502
01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:12.920
They're coming. Yeah, Okay. That's why when one dies, its

1503
01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:16.880
body is taken away. It's it's buried, or it's in

1504
01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:21.079
a latitube, or it's it's someplace. And one day somebody's

1505
01:27:21.079 --> 01:27:24.359
going to start finding where they hid these things. Okay.

1506
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:27.479
We don't know why they've been sticks and have these

1507
01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:31.600
uh tree things in the croppings out in the middle

1508
01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:33.199
of the woods. We don't know none of that. Maybe

1509
01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:35.920
that's their burial site. We don't know that. We have

1510
01:27:36.039 --> 01:27:38.640
no clue. Nobody knows nothing about them because we don't

1511
01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:42.319
take the time to study that. Okay, we don't care.

1512
01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:46.520
It's like I care. I want to know. Okay, why

1513
01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:49.359
did you bend that branch like that? You know? Why

1514
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:52.560
is that a direction he wants you go that way?

1515
01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:56.000
Or is he telling other big foots that go that way?

1516
01:27:56.359 --> 01:28:01.319
Or I don't know? You know, I want to know,

1517
01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:07.399
and uh, I don't know. I've read every book. I can't. Yeah,

1518
01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:12.079
but nobody ever has hard none of the answers. It's

1519
01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:16.560
all guess you know, it's I don't know. It's just

1520
01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:21.319
as many people are see him. Now, tell me he

1521
01:28:21.399 --> 01:28:24.119
doesn't exist. Really, how can you really look at somebody

1522
01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:27.720
and say, oh, no, he don't exist. That's because you

1523
01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:30.920
haven't seen him, and you're jealous because you haven't seen him.

1524
01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:33.199
You can take my story for what it's orrible. Let

1525
01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:38.239
me tell you it's it's actual, it's factual. I got pictures.

1526
01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:40.640
I just got to get it developed, and I will

1527
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:42.800
have to developed by Land. I'll make it a point

1528
01:28:42.920 --> 01:28:45.880
now that I'm talking to you, I feel so much better.

1529
01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:49.720
Keep it off my chest. You know, you can't tell

1530
01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:53.560
nobody you do. You just can't tell somebody this story.

1531
01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:56.760
They look at you like you're insane, you know. But

1532
01:28:57.159 --> 01:29:00.640
trust me, I'm a very educated person. I mean I

1533
01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:06.399
I designed the cords and Civics for twenty two years. Okay, wow,

1534
01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:12.079
So yeah, I didn't want to see I didn't ask

1535
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:14.760
to see this thing. I mean, that was the last

1536
01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:16.640
thing in my mind. Was just thing coming out of

1537
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:19.079
the woods one day. Oh. I didn't even want to

1538
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:22.680
see it. Okay. I was just trying to do my job, okay,

1539
01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:26.960
and ruin my whole life. Mark, I just run my

1540
01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:27.520
whole life.

1541
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:31.000
I'm looking forward to chatting with you more at Oakridge.

1542
01:29:31.359 --> 01:29:32.039
I can't wait.

1543
01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:34.920
I'm glad you called in. I know this was this

1544
01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:37.359
was extremely tough for you to share, but I'm glad

1545
01:29:37.359 --> 01:29:40.960
you did. And we'll talk more later. My email is

1546
01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:43.319
big for society at gmail dot com. You can keep

1547
01:29:43.359 --> 01:29:47.720
in touch with me that way. But yes, I'm just

1548
01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:51.319
thankful that we got to talk tonight. And yeah, me too.

1549
01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:52.600
I'll talk to you lady too.

1550
01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:55.880
All right, hey, listen, thank you very much for your time.

1551
01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:58.680
I appreciate I feel so much better. Thank you very

1552
01:29:58.760 --> 01:29:59.279
very much.

1553
01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:01.279
Thank you Mark for calling in. We'll be in touch.

1554
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:15.039
Okay, all right, well, thank you, bye bye, Holy Mackerel.

1555
01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:24.359
That was really wild. That was one of the most

1556
01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:30.439
intense calls. I've ever taken. And the story's gonna continue

1557
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:35.960
at Sasquatch Summerfest and Oakridge if he gets those photos

1558
01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:42.720
off of that simcard. You just listen to audio from

1559
01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:47.600
four forty eight and four forty nine, which were recorded

1560
01:30:47.680 --> 01:30:51.199
back in June of twenty twenty four. You may have

1561
01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:54.760
questions about if I ever met Mark at Sasquatch Summerfest.

1562
01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:56.960
I never did it.

1563
01:30:57.039 --> 01:30:59.840
Still would love to talk to Mark if you hear this, buddy,

1564
01:31:01.800 --> 01:31:04.840
I'm going to Sasquatch Summer Fest for my third year

1565
01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:06.960
and I would love to meet you there if you

1566
01:31:07.079 --> 01:31:11.119
still have that phone or SIM card, or if you

1567
01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:14.640
printed out the pictures, or I'd love to talk to

1568
01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:18.279
your buddies about Spirit Lake as well. But just a

1569
01:31:18.560 --> 01:31:22.920
update about that last one. Still have not been able

1570
01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:25.680
to talk to Mark face to face to this day,

1571
01:31:25.720 --> 01:31:29.159
so hopefully that'll happen someday in the future. Thank you

1572
01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:31.920
for listening to this episode of the big Foot Society Podcast.

1573
01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:34.439
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1574
01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:37.600
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1575
01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:40.520
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1576
01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:43.319
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1583
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1584
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1585
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1586
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1592
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1593
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1594
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1595
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