Monster Fest Live! / Justin and the Bigfoot / Martin Groves UPDATE!

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What follows is the live podcast interview
from Monsterfest two in Can't Ohio with Justin

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from Cryptids of the Corn. Special
thank you to Justin. Make sure you

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hit the links to get how to
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got some great ones. Also,
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from around the festival you won't want
to miss. At the end, any

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special update from mister Martin Groves with
some very very interesting information in it,

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let's get on with this show.
All right, Pickfoot Society. How's it

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going? We got justin here from
Cryptis of the Corn. How's it going

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today? Justin? Oh, live
in the dream. Thank you for having

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me, dude, such such a
good time. How's your booth, ben,

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I see you over at booth busy
busy? Yeah? Any good stories

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over there? Yeah? Not ones
will probably talk about right this second because

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they're fun ones. Yeah yeah,
some good ones. Everything from fairies and

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orbs to some bigfoot stuff, which
is always exciting. Let's talk about Cryptis

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of the Corn for the listeners that
haven't checked you guys out, so tell

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us a little bit about what Cryptis
of the Corn podcast is perfect. We

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like to say where we're a scientific
and a magical thing combined. I'm justin

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my coast as Jay, I go
by the Great and Powerful Mystery, and

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he's always a j clone. There's
a whole bunch of them, and there's

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like a closet full of them and
just pick one. But no, like

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scientific and magical thinking. I was
an endangered species biologist. I was a

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field biologist that specialized in endangered species
surveys, habitat surveys, did a lot

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of e DNA work, which is
for everybody the big foot field, you

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know, is kind of a hot
button term. But so I did that

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with other species and stuff like that. Our record we rediscovered two species is

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what my crew did, so extra
pated species, which just means locally extinct.

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In one big range expansion, which
was a fish about that big as

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a freckle belly madatom had a four
hundred and eighty mile range expansion, so

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that means that you know, their
range grew so dramatically. Alligator gar back

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in Ohio was a big one for
us because now they have legal protection.

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So they've been missing from Ohio for
about one hundred and eighty years, and

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once they were confirmed to be back, they get legal protections. So in

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the US and most of the world, extinct or locally extinct species have no

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rights. So just because there's good
habitat for it doesn't mean it's protected until

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that animal was back in its in
its habitat. The only one would be

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the Iowa darta we discovered in its
place in Illinois. That was the one

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I had to go to court with
a lot because it literally stopped. I

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can't I won't to say the name
of the company, but a giant delivery

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service company sponsor. Yeah, I'm
just kidding. Oh oh. They were

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supposed to wait to put in a
warehouse fulfillment center of people. They were

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supposed to wait to put that in
until after their ser was done, and

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they had already started and we found
the endangered fish there, so they had

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to stop building it. Like I'm
telling you, where we were standing in

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the site, I could see the
building they were building. So they had

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broken a lot of rules and they
were extremely not happy with us. High

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five. Yeah, that's amazing.
Yeah, so now it's a wildlife area.

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It's gorgeous. Now. They tore
all that stuff out of there and

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repaired the rip perian zone, which
is healthy for healthy waterways. But so

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you get a lot of that mixed
in with the cryptid stuff. I'm just

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going to ask you about that.
Yeah, so we like do the science

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behind the sasquatch atmospheric creatures, one
of your favorite topics, which we'll talk

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about. We mix in what makes
biological or scientific sense to show you that

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the cryptid field is full of stuff
that makes sense. And some scientists will

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you know, And I was a
scientist for a period of time. I'm

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not paid anymore, so I don't
get that moniker. But we have scientists

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on our show that come on and
talk about their feelings on cryptids in the

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paranormal and stuff like that and how
it makes makes sense. So we do

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a lot of that, and then
Jay's the conspiracy guy, brings a whole

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different flavor. Have you been into
cryptids in your entire life or yes,

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okay, I was a lake monster
guy, a sea monster guy I was.

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I was a fisheries biologist, was
my actual job. So I love

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fish and salamanders are my favorite things. So I believed in a lot of

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ocean and sea and lake monsters and
stuff like that. Never believed in Bigfoot

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until even three years. I had
a big foot encounter, which will kind

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of gloss over because we talked about
that I finish. I think it's been

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long enough. We need to talk
about it again. Okay, it was

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a lot of encounters happened, and
it is even after that, I still

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didn't believe in bigfoot for three years. So I've seen a bigfoot, but

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I was literally getting ready to go
to college to you know, go into

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biology. So I'm like, I
didn't see a big foot. I just

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couldn't have seen a big foot.
And then now back I was known at

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the guy at the lab that was
the bigfoot guy kind of deal, you

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know. So yeah, I was
always into it lake monsters mostly, and

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now what's everything? It's the thing
I love about your show is literally everything.

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So if you're if you want to
like get out into the cryptid universe

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and even crazier stuff like stuff out
in the sky and yeah uprah atmosphere,

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creature, Black Eyed Kids. We
have a whole episode coming out in a

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couple months about speech recognition in other
species. Oh wow, we actually have

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a biologist of working on it with
cetaceans, which are whales, the Baileen

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whales, you know, stuff like
that, uh that they have probably just

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as complex as language as we do. And so where do you draw the

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line for sentience, ship computers and
mushrooms and all that, you know,

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the big mix, Go get a
little bit of everything. So the way

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that I was introduced to Justin's podcast
is I was trying to come up with

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an idea for a series name for
a podcast I was going to do in

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my Patreon which is going to be
Iowa themed, and I was like,

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oh, my goodness, I should
do call it Cryptis of the Corn.

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I better check to make sure no
one has it, and I was like,

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oh, there's a one. So
I was like, oh cool,

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I get and turns out you're cool. So it was awesome. It's a

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very very good podcast. But I
do want to first talk about and this

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is a really random rabbit trail I
just thought of, but do you have

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any feelings on how they are trying
to bring back extinct animals into today's world

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like the thilasine. I have a
lot of opinions on that. I'm sure

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I love to hear it. Glasses
Bioscience is the company doing it. The

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main company there are several out of
Texas, but they have labs all over

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the world. So they actually already
have the facility built in Siberia for the

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mammoth. Oh wow. So they
have rules, right, they have categories

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and rules. To select a species
to unextinct, it has to be man

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cost So you can't just bring back
a dinosaur, you know, the extinction

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event or at least the final nail
on the coffin has to be something related

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to humans, you know, so
it knocks out a lot of those other

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things. They have to have habitat
that still exists this day, so you

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can't bring We couldn't bring back to
mammoths of Siberia and the Yukon didn't still

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have habitat for them. Keep mind, these were a little bit bigger than

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Asian elephants and African elephants are today. But they were cold weather derivatives,

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like they needed a lot of cold. But when they went extinct, we

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lost a lot of species with them. They were called the cornerstone species of

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an environment and the winter. Specifically, what mammoths would do is they take

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their tusk and be like a snowplow
and re expose vegetation that was covered by

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feet of snow. So all these
little species depended on these monsters to move

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hundreds of tons of snow so they
could get to the food. So when

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mammoths went out, you know,
everybody else is like they died in the

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winter. They have to have a
living relative that can carry an embryo or

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they can pull an embryo from and
we don't need to get into all that.

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It's really hard. It's a lot
easier to do this kind of work

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when you have an ambry So for
the mammoth, it's the Asian elephant.

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African elephants aren't very closely related to
mammoths whatsoever. Asian elephants are Asians and

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African elephants are very distant related themselves. They're kind of the two last branches

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of the big packet orham family.
Sloths are another example. Two toad and

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three toad Sloths aren't really related to
each other very closely at all. They're

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the same thing where they're the last
two branches of this tree that was all

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crazy. So they have to have
habitat, they have to be man destroyed,

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they have to have a living relative. So their list is mammoths,

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try lis, scenes dodos, and
stellar sea cows. Now stellar Seacou's is

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just a giant manatee that was in
the Pacific Ocean, and we actually think

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they were in the Atlantic Ocean.
Two. They were hunted to extinction in

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about five years because they were big
as whales and they were really easy to

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stab to death because they didn't really
fear anything because they would live in kelp

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forest. So the only real predator
was Orcus. Orcusts can't go into calp

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forest, still drowned. The stellar
Seacow was really good at like making pathways

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and you know, not drowning inside
kelpforce humans drown in culp forest because its

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like swiming in a bunch of nets. But yeah, so they weren't.

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They were more like the Dodo.
You know they always make the joke Dodoes

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were dumb, now Jododoes of all
with no predators, so they didn't have

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that instinct that a something's coming up
and grabbing our eggs. You know,

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let's deal with it. My opinion
is everything except the Dodo still has sightings

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this day. We have done several
episodes on mammoth sightings. Oh sure,

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yeah, up in Canada, Alaska, right yep, and even in Siberia.

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Some of the bear hunters say that
they find mammoth trails. Still,

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you got to talk about Siberia's a
size of mass, like a massive country

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that you know, a couple thousand
people really live in. So you have,

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essentially, you know, this massive
amount of land with a small group

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of people, and it's almost unhospitable
even during the summer. It's known as

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Mosquito Capital of the world. The
swamps that form in the tundra are so

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intensive that it's almost no research gets
done there because it sucks. It sucks

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in the win it sucks in the
summer. If you're a biologist, where

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you're gonna pick to go, You're
gonna pick to go to the Yukon,

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or you're gonna go pick to go
to Arizona. I know where I'm going.

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But the Trili scenes still seem to
this day very credible, eyewitnesses,

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a lot of photos, the habitats
still there, the man is still seen

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to this day, and the stellar
sea cows still seem to this day.

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Interesting. I don't know. We
did a conspiracy kind of episode about it

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that I kind of wonder if they're
not recloning these animals, if they just

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found them and are making a big
What I like to do about it?

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How about this? Do you think
it'll ever come up, like let's bring

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the Gigantapithecus back or would that not
even be an option? Right now?

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As far as I know what their
genetics, it wouldn't be an option.

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Okay. The only thing we have
that's kind of related to them would be

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an orangutang, and it's not very
close, okay, So just genetically,

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it'd be very, very very difficult
to even do it. We have the

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DNA, you know, we have
good teeth samples from these guys that aren't

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fossils, their actual teeth from epithegs
and some jaw fragments, so we can

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bowl DNA, but to actually bring
them back, so I don't know.

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The long term, I'm fine with
them bringing back those kind of animals,

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like I said, if they actually
listen to those criteria that they set forward

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and there's habitat and there's protections,
and you know they can do it ethically,

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Yeah, bring them back. Thing
with mammoths, you know, it's

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very limited ranges, so you can't
have the forty million mammoths that used to

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exist at one time on the Earth
everywhere, but you got to like people

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like the Yukon. Sure, you
can release a whole bunch of mammos up

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there. They're gonna be They're gonna
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people's towns. But trying to convince
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Canada, even in the Yukon and
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bit higher population densities, so it
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yeah, we're moving this this twelve
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You're allowed to shoot him, but
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corn. Another behind the scenes saying
about why I really appreciate Justin is when

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I get a I get a lot
of like evidence in my email. I

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get a lot of photos. But
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And I remember I was listening to
Tony with the Confessionals and he would bring

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up you Justin my biologist. So
I'm like, oh, I know who

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that is, yep, And He's
like, I Justin's my guy. If

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I have a sound, and I
was like, oh, that's a good

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idea. So I was like,
I sent you a sound from Alabama.

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Very interesting. We can't really get
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we men say what it ended up
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so and it wasn't a good match. That's what I do with my confessionals

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and several other people, is if
I can knock it, if I can

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figure out what it is, a
lot of birds, like there's so many

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birds you don't realize that make the
birds the size of your hands, can

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make giant guttural sounds that are really
terrifying and you don't realize it's something you

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know that big. I'll try to
idea location. Helps a lot like nighthawks

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and tape not tape jars, night
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They make really really, really scary
sounds. I'll try to idea the best

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I can. If not, I'll
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but not really right, And that
one I believe it was. If I

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remember and I was wild boar was
about the closest right I could get with

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the teeth cutting in the it was
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and he was like, I ran
into this sound that I recorded while I

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was hunting snakes, and in the
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He's like, I don't know what
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I'm not a biologist. I was
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bears, for example, and porcupines
make really weird noises. If you're not

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around those animals very often, and
you hear a porcupine trying to mate,

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it's a scary sound. Everybody in
here knows about, like the woman screaming

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with bobcats and mountain lions and stuff
like, they literally sounds like two women

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murdering each other kind of deal.
But bear now with tree knocking with sasquatch,

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this isn't all of it or nothing
like that. But bears will cut

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their teeth, is what it's called. It's a behavior where they slam their

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canines into each other, and if
their bears are big enough, it actually

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sounds like you're taking two by fours
and slam them together real quick, and

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it's a warning thing. It's normally
it's not a good sound to hear because

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if you're hearing it, some bear
somewhere is let you know you're too close,

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and I'm really bothered by what you're
doing, so turn around and walk

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the other way. It's like rattlesnake
rattle. Do you think any sounds that

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we think might be bigfoot sounds could
be actually misidentified bear sounds animal misidentified animal

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sounds for sure. Yeah, not
all of them, Like I'm never all

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of them. I mean, you
have stuff like the Sierra sounds that have

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been analyzed forward backward, left and
right kind of deal. And there are

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plenty of what I believe are big
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the boat you're in, the boat
we're in, you get sent a lot

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of stuff and you'll be like,
well, that's a niger, are right,

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And you just don't know that bird
exists even though you live in the

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state they're in or whatever. You
know. There was one we got that

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was absolutely terrifying. I believe it
was a hoop owl from Texas and she

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was thought it was. She was
having PARANORLM encounters in her apartment in town

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and she's like, there's a demon
that's screaming at me. And she played

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it and it was there's a little
tight with like an owl that's six inches

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tall and it was nested. She
found it later. It was nest above

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her window sill where she couldn't see
it from inside her house and at night,

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this little group of owls would sound
like freaking demons going off. Oh

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man, big for society will be
right back after these messages. So there's

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demons in the wall. Well yeah, there's a little yeah, but yeah,

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so yes for sasquatch sounds, I
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rarer animals that the average day person
in the woods doesn't get experience. Interesting.

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Do you mind if we spend some
time if you could share again your

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your bigfoot encounter that happens as it's
been a while since. I'm gonna give

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this the real quick absolutely, because
I think when we did it was an

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hour. Normally it's like an hour
and a half. So side note,

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there's another episode with Justin a few
years ago and it's about two and a

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half hours. So if you enjoy
this, you can get really deep into

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adjusting conversation. Yeah, go ahead, And I've done it on our show

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a couple of times. Just the
real because everybody always asks, you know,

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So here's just like a flat one, but real fast. We had

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a family farm northwest Ohio, Harden
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in our county. We don't have
a lot of trees. So when I

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say woods, you know in it
for the story, it's a very very

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small woods. You know, it's
not anything massive, probably a couple one

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hundred acres. So Jane's actually calling, oh, right, and I wonder

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if you won. Everybody prayed for
Jay. He's at National Bowling right now,

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so you got some money, all
right. No, So a lot

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of weird stuff happened. We had
a farm I breathe. At that time,

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I was breeding competitive chickens. I
had like five hundred birds. So

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everybody's seen dog shows and stuff like
that that exists for chickens. So I

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had some chickens that were just a
little shive of a thousand bucks a bird

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kind of deal. Yeah, I
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you can get once you get.
I had five dollar chickens too, so

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don't get me wrong. I had
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we had weird stuff happening. Like, we had horses and my mom was

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a goat farmer, so we had
fifty sixty goats. So we had this

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big grain bin in the barn,
dabbed by grain by like the palate and

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get it delivered because it was cheaper
when you're going through that much feed and

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put it in there. So this
lid was like a series like an obs

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sheet four by eight. It started
getting left up and only a couple of

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me and a couple of the older
siblings were the only people that could lift

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up by yourself. So rats were
getting in there and stuff like that.

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So we were always fighting with each
other. Stuff was getting moved around the

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farm a lot, and like it'd
be like a rake would now be in

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the corner of the fence and that
kind of just a lot of weird little

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stuff. Enough, we were starting
to kind of nip at each other and

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get in fights because life was already
hard and now one of my siblings were

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making it harder for everybody else moving
stuff around. The first year, I'm

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trying to it's been a it's been
a minute. Yeah. Absolutely. The

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big event we had the first year
was so this beeny eleven. Over the

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two big years of the stuff happened
was our driveway was about half a mile

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long, like it was it was
like an appeal land, Like our land

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was in the middle of a bunch
of farming land and stuff like that.

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So they had to give us like
a little strip to get way back to

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our house. So it was a
big one driveway disappeared nowhere. Couldn't really

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see a neighbor kind of deal.
So I was working at McDonald's. It's

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Fourth of July weekend. I was
closing, so I get off of like

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eleven thirty. We had the campground
we would go to and watch fireworks.

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It's Indian Lake, but locals,
you know, if you know where Indian

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Lake is. So it's about a
half hour away from the house. I

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called my mom and I'm like,
hey, you know, I'm just gonna

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go home for the night. I'm
just gonna I'll shower and then I'll come

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up in the morning. So I
get home. Our house is like U

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shaped, so the kitchen and the
living room are kind of next to each

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other but not connected. You know, you gotta go through the whole house.

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They're both glass and they both face
into the woods. We had three

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dogs. We had Sunny, which
was one hundred and like fifty pound golden

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poodle and he was my brother's service
dog. We had Bailey, he was

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like forty pounds, and Clarice.
Clarice the dog that pooped while we did

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the first episode call back. Yeah, yeah, so she lived a long

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time. Poor went out for yeah, poor one out for Clarice. Everybody

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when you're drank of the night.
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let the dogs out and they won't
come out, and I thought that was

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kind of weird. They wuldn't even
come in to the kitchen. Now knowing

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what we know now is why you
know answers questions later. But I was

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like, come on, I'm yelling
at Sonny and stuff like that. Nobody

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wants to come out. So I'm
like, whatever, close it I walk.

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I will go away to the living
room, walk around the whole year

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of the house. I lay down
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The dogs are like glued to me, which they haven't seen anybody all

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day or whatever. So I lay
on the couch and Bailey and Clarice hop

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up on me. The weird thing
is it Sonny hopped up on me too.

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This is a service animal. This
isn't some big, you know,

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goofy dog. This dog is trained
to help my brother that can't walk to

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balance, and you know he didn't
do these kind of actions. So I

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yelled at him and he laid like
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that was already weird behavior for him. Way off, I hear boom boom

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boom. On the other side of
the woods, there are like four five

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families that kind of live on this
woods. They're all old couple, older

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couples, you know, you know, everybody's at sixty seventies, kind of

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to older farmers. So I'm thinking
it's they have family where it's Fourth of

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July weekend. Somebody's letting on fireworks, right and about ten fifty minutes pass

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and it goes boom boom boom a
little closer. I'm like, okay,

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so their kids are going through the
woods, you know whatever. Fifteen minutes

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pass, boom boom boom a little
closer. This now is not sounding as

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much like a firework. It's sounded
like somebody's taking a sledgehammer in the woods

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and beating on a tree. It's
always three. About another ten to fifteen

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minutes pass, there's an old dead
tree right in the corner of the yard.

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Boom boom boom on that. So
I call Nick, he's our neighbor

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boy, my best friend growing up. I'm like, hey, are you

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in the what are you doing And
he's like, no, we're in Pennsylvania.

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I'm like, okay, well there's
somebody out in the woods just screwing

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around and stuff like that. It
started freaking me out this point. The

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dogs aren't moving, they're not making
any noise. Uh, they obviously can

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hear what's happening. They're not reacting, which is what's scaring me. Like

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I said, Sonny, I defended
my mom against somebody that tried to grab

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her one time. That dog was
a trained animal, you know, for

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protection and to help support my brother. So where I'm sitting there, there's

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guns in the next room. I
don't want to get up because the room's

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all glass. At this point in
my head, I'm like, I don't

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want whoever's out there to see me
where I'm at in the house, I'm

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laying flat on a couch. Then
you hear boom, boom boom on our

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big metal barn. The horses freak
out and actually break out, and they're

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going nuts. In the field.
You hear them just running circles just you

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need, you know, making all
kinds of noise, getting goosebumps. Yeah,

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and I'm so scared. I'm just
frozen. There. I can't move.

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Like I said, there's guns like
twenty feet away. I just got

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to get up and grab one.
So it's about one hundred feet like where

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it hit. I'm freaked out.
I'm so so scared about another ten minutes

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past, there was an old Porsche
car like thirty feet from where I'm sitting.

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Boom boom boom. I'm literally like
in tears at this point. The

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dogs are making no noise and it's
freaking me out, and I'm like,

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there's somebody about to come in the
house at that very moment. My aunt

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uncle are living on us at the
time, came flying down the driveway and

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they're convertible blaring music. I come
out, I'm bawling. They just take

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me into town and they're like,
you know, we'll come back out in

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the morning and deal with it.
Well, Nick's dad is retired military police,

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retired detective. They were home the
next day. Well, he came

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out and he heard the story and
it was just me, dad and him,

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and he's like, you know,
He's like, Bill, it was

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that's my dad. He's like,
it was a guy with a sledgehammer.

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I found where your son said he
hit stuff, and I would have seen

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this stuff. But he hit everything
with a sledgehammer four times, and I'm

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like, no, it was three
times. I remember it's burnt in forever.

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It was three times. Every thing
was three. He's like, no,

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it was four. And Dad's like, well, why do you think

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it was four times? And why
do you think it was a sledgehammer.

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Well, we'd go to the barn
and like eight nine feet off the ground,

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you could see four big indentations.
So He's like, the only reason

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you could only you could reach up
there is with a sledgehammer, you know,

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doing the full swing, and you
can see the four marks he hit.

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They were right in a row.
Later on we found, you know,

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knuckle marks of just something punching the
same spot, just making noise.

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So that's the first big year.
After about October, everything stops. All

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the weird stuff kind of goes away
and everything goes right back to normal.

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April the next year, it all
kicks back up to ten. The piles

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of stuff are like huge. I'm
talking hay bales, car hoods, the

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saw horses. It was just stuff
moved around, yeah, but it was

404
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.839
getting put into like piles in the
corner of the fence and stuff. Yeah,

405
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.599
just huge piles of stuff. My
dad's now convinced it's a guy coming

406
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.559
on our property and doing this to
us and screwing with us. And he'd

407
00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:57.160
been out there trying to shoot whoever
this guy was and stuff like that.

408
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:03.440
He's a good gonna do it too, U my mom. That was the

409
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:07.519
year my mom was diagnosed with cancer, So everybody in the family was just

410
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:11.640
on end on edge, and now
this guy's coming under the property and just

411
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.039
really really screwing with us. So
my dad would have killed him if he

412
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:21.000
got a chance, he would have. So that year though, my really

413
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:25.599
expensive chickens started going missing. We
could have been missing other chickens before,

414
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.279
but we did never know. Oh
one little thing I did forgets is why

415
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.039
that the bin was getting left open. A lot of grain was missing.

416
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:36.799
It was horse grain, which anybody
it's had horses nose. It's malasses based,

417
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:40.200
so it's really sweet to the taste, you know, it's basically it's

418
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.519
candy. If you're an animal or
you don't get to candy, you know,

419
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.799
if you don't get to go buy
something, it's really sweet. So

420
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.319
that was well, a lot of
horse grain was missing. I could have

421
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.559
been missing chickens that first year,
but they were like the egg layers.

422
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.599
And you know, we had two
hundred minute building. I didn't would have

423
00:27:55.720 --> 00:28:00.559
known. It was five of missing. These guys though all had name and

424
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.640
you know, we were selling some
of their eggs for an egg for sixty

425
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.799
seventy dollars because it was a show
bird. You know, it was gonna

426
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:10.759
win, it could win. They
started going missing. Now the whole fence

427
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:14.039
was electrified. You can't get into
it. The only way you could get

428
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.319
into it there was a nest box
you could open with your hand and flip

429
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:19.240
it open and take a bird out
and close it back up. And then

430
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:22.240
the door it could like there was
like a normal door you could open and

431
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:29.839
close. Nothing was breaking into it. Somebody was stealing chickens. So we

432
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.000
went and got a red healer.
Her name was Lucy. She was an

433
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.680
absolute monster. I mean, this
dog was. We bought her from the

434
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:41.359
Armis. She was trained to protect
the farm and she would kill everything we

435
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.960
came home. Not farm animals,
but any raccoon box, any animal that

436
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.240
wasn't supposed to be there after night
she would murder. I mean, this

437
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.519
dog was a monster. One day
we came home and she was covered in

438
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.400
blood and we couldn't find a cut
on her. It was two coyotes she

439
00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.920
had killed, so she got them
pined and just started ripping at him until

440
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.240
they were dead. Like I say, this dog had no fear of nothing.

441
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.519
So when we did this, all
this stuff stopped for like a month.

442
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:11.960
What Luke she got in the habit
of doing is she would patrol the

443
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:18.519
tree line and if a raccoon kept
running into the woods, she'd stop.

444
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.839
She knew that it's gone the threats
moved on. The problem we're running into

445
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.839
is if they ran up the first
tree, because then in her head she

446
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.799
can still see it. It hasn't
left, so the threats delicious. She'd

447
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:36.000
sit there and she would bark all
night until you went down there and you

448
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:37.400
took, you know, something,
knock the raccoon out of the tree and

449
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.039
it could run away, or she
could get it whatever, but once it

450
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:45.279
needed to move off of the property
where she could see it. So one

451
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.640
thing I didn't mention is that we
had four wheeler trails and horse trails cut

452
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.240
through the woods. You know,
they're just like cookie cutter punches. We'd

453
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:57.160
ride horses. My dad installed stadium
lights for working horses. My mom and

454
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.799
me showed horses, so horses don't
sweat like we do. You know,

455
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:04.200
they can overheat really easy. So
we worked him at night so the horses

456
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.319
wouldn't get too hot. And it's
like for training and stuff like that.

457
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:12.799
So one night, Lucy is barking
at a raccoon, you so, and

458
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.440
she's just going nuts, going nut's
going on. So me and Luke that's

459
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.119
my brother with musket district feet going
and get like a baseball bat and a

460
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.160
golf club to go knock this raccoon
out of the tree so it could run

461
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:29.160
off in the woods or whatever.
We start walking and Lucy's standing in front

462
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.680
of one of the holes, which
is really really weird because why she's barking

463
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:34.880
there rako you know, could run
into the woods, so it was weird.

464
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:40.200
We get like thirty feet away from
her and we see it and I

465
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:45.039
say it's Luke stopped. But he'd
already stopped. These giant sartruse eyes.

466
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:52.480
We're just looking down at Lucy.
You see him blink slow, blink slow,

467
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.960
the third blink. They're staring right
at us, and I just I

468
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.599
remember trying to tell Luke like don't
don't run. Don't we We ran,

469
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.480
you know, we were back to
the house. We were in tears.

470
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.160
My dad had enough and he's this
is the guy, and you know,

471
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.799
he gets the gun and he stands
right there. Lucy's still barking in the

472
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:12.559
same spot, and he's like,
you am after you know, you've scared

473
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.759
my kids, You've ruined you know, your mess with our life. Come

474
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:17.599
out of the wood right now.
I'm gona start shooting ino the woods.

475
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:21.440
It counts the three, Me and
luc are standing outside. Counts the three.

476
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:23.799
Nobody comes out, obviously. So
Dad aims into the top of the

477
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:30.480
trees, shoots about ten feet in
the woods. It sounds like a bison

478
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.880
is just ripping through the woods.
Dad falls back, runs up to the

479
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:36.440
house. You know, it takes
us inside, and he's just like,

480
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:38.640
I wasn't a guy. Wasn't a
guy. Wouldn't a guy? Wasn't a

481
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.759
guy? All you would say,
Like I said, we didn't really talk

482
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:44.759
about it for years, and like
my mom was going through non options on

483
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.920
foma, which is a hard one
to beat for cancer. Yeah, so

484
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.559
you know, like so we we
just you know, others life events happened.

485
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.720
We moved out of the country.
We moved into town. You know,

486
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.440
we gave up the farm because Mom
was the big pusher of the farm.

487
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.119
She was sick, you know,
obviously. So there's the short version

488
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.440
of the Bigfoot encounters. So I
seen the outline. I've seen the silhouette,

489
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:08.720
you know, the big head,
the big shoulders. That's all I

490
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.680
really remember. I didn't see any
good facial features. I didn't, you

491
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.519
know, the eyes. I was
six seventeen at that time. The eyes

492
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.559
were just they were about three inches
apart. So that's just a huge face.

493
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:23.200
But Sarcer's it wasn't glowing. It
was shine from the big light.

494
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.079
But you know how like when you're
standing behind the light source, you kind

495
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.720
of just look like a big shadow. That was the effect we were getting

496
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:32.440
due to the stadium light. So
where me and Luke were standing, we

497
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.200
were kind of standing in a light
and it was in the shadows. So,

498
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:40.000
yeah, there's the short version.
I'm sure you've analyzed that a few

499
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:45.759
times as a biologist. Is there
anything that lives in that area that could

500
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.599
account for what you saw? No, I mean personally I would say no.

501
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:54.000
You know, everybody everybody says brings
up black bears, No, like

502
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:58.359
I think black bear sightings are a
lot of road sidings. Maybe when you're

503
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.480
driving really fast, like on the
high Way, you see something big and

504
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:05.079
black in the woods real fast,
Sure that could be a bear. But

505
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:08.319
when you are thirty feet away from
this thing and it's bears don't have shoulders.

506
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:12.119
I've been with grizzly you know.
Grizzly bears don't have shoulders. Are

507
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:16.559
huge animals, but you don't have
that big football pad looking look to them.

508
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:22.160
So in our part of Ohio,
would be the only large mammal that

509
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.039
could even get to close that big. It was probably about seven and a

510
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:28.480
half foot tall. Son't one of
the monsters you hear about, you know,

511
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.400
the nine the ten footers, but
he was for a seventeen year old

512
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:36.359
kid that weigh one hundred pounds,
it was plenty big enough. Did you

513
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.799
ever talk to any neighbors or research
the area to see if other people had

514
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:45.599
seen similar things or not? For
almost a decade because we started doing the

515
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:51.960
podcast and if anybody listens to our
show, check out the Greg interview Big

516
00:33:52.000 --> 00:34:12.519
for Society. Who will be right
back after these messages. He's my He

517
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.400
grew up with my dad. He
had an encounter with Bigfoot two miles from

518
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:21.840
where we did the same year,
but he never talked about it until we

519
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:23.920
started doing the podcast stuff, and
he was like, I knew this guy

520
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.880
a whole life growing up, you
know, I never ever didn't like Bigfoot,

521
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.599
didn't talk about Bigfoot. He shared
on our show one time we had

522
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.199
to start getting he had a drink
for a half hour before he could even

523
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:36.079
talk about it because he was He's
six foot five, He's just this mount

524
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:40.760
of a man. He talks about
how imposing this thing was to him,

525
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:47.920
and yeah, so no. So
several farmers and locals did come forward after

526
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.440
and that twenty eleven two was a
huge spike in our ear. We look

527
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.599
up the bfro Go to Hardin County, Ohio, and it's about the only

528
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.639
group of sightings. I think some
of them have been removed now and I

529
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.840
don't you know, I don't have
any idea why. But if somebody's researching

530
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.159
it, I know that, you
know, sometimes they'll pull those just for

531
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.320
a time to look into it more. But we had a spike in twenty

532
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:13.039
eleven and then it went back down
to nothing. Mine never made it on

533
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.760
ever, and I send it in
and I don't know if I'm not a

534
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.119
great type, if anybody's ever seen
anything out right or anything like that.

535
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.159
It's rough, so there could have
been something with that, you know it

536
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.119
was, But yeah, mine never
made it in and I submitted it,

537
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:30.679
but that's it's their website absolutely,
So there's a short bigfoot encounter. But

538
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:36.440
I think it was a juvenile mail
that was eating food, so a horse

539
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.079
grain. I think he was eating
a lot of the horse grain because it's

540
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.559
super sweet, like I said,
and it's you know, it's very you

541
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:45.039
know, addictive if you don't get
those chances. I think he got mad

542
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.920
at the dog because he was coming
onto the property every night, and that

543
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.960
dog then started stopping him from being
able to do that under the cover.

544
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.360
I think if we wouldn't coming outside, Lucy probably wouldn't have been a dog

545
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.360
very much longer kind of deal.
All we all in this room have heard

546
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.639
the horror stories, but dogs and
bigfoot do not get along. I don't

547
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:08.079
think bigfoot mess with people very often
as far as the actual danger. It's

548
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:12.960
like the nine to one one call
that you hear on most bigfoot podcasts except

549
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:15.880
for mine. So yeah, there
you go. Poor dogs. Thank you

550
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:20.880
for sharing that. I could tell
you actually were you were going right back

551
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.880
to that. It took a long
time to get to being able to share

552
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:28.559
it like this and stuff like that. But yeah, I'm sure that your

553
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.960
podcast is similar to mine, and
that you open up your email and you

554
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:35.960
have people just contacting you every single
day. Yeah, that's probably. It

555
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.320
can be overwhelming, but it's it's
amazing. It's a great like to be

556
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:43.559
the one that gets these reports and
then to be able to follow up on

557
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.760
them. Have you found that?
Okay, when do you get a lot

558
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.960
of big foot reports for Ohio?
Yeah? Okay, now, are part

559
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.159
of Ohio, but where I'm from
not here. I'm from northwest Ohio,

560
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:58.840
the corn part of the state.
Ohio's got four big biospheres. I'm from

561
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:05.079
the flat part, so not a
ton we get more locally like people will

562
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:09.920
come up to us and share.
But the hawking salt for the east side

563
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:15.519
of Ohio is bigfoot heavy. So
I was gonna ask you because what I

564
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:22.039
found from mine is that I'll start
it's almost like the meme where you have

565
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.440
the guy with the red strings on
the wall and you're like connecting him and

566
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:29.440
you start to figure out. Oh
okay, there's another one from this area.

567
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:35.159
Have you figured out any potential hotspot
areas that you've actually gone and investigated

568
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.239
yourself because of your podcast? One
time, we only went one time.

569
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.239
Like I said earlier, I got
a bad knee. So going out and

570
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:44.360
doing stuff is really hard to let
alone bringing equipment and stuff like that.

571
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.679
Now, So we only went one
time and it was well, I'll tell

572
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:51.639
you guys, everybody can go.
It's a state park, Conco's Hollow,

573
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:57.599
which is in Hockey Hills, which
has an extreme amount of bigfoot encounters in

574
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.119
that area, and they're very unique
bigfoot and counter and we've got tons turned

575
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.800
into us. Some we don't share
publicly because they ask not to. They

576
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:08.280
more want opinions, you know,
and you get the same stuff with that

577
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:14.559
area. The encounters are really scary, and by I mean tree shaking,

578
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:20.280
noises, bluff charges, the throwing
pebbles and stuff like that. My opinion

579
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.840
about the rock throwing and stuff.
If they wanted to hit you with a

580
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.119
rock, they would hit you with
the rock. If they're not hitting you

581
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.280
with a rock, it's for a
reason, whether they're either trying to scare

582
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:30.519
you off or get your attention or
you know, get you to look away.

583
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:36.480
So with that part of hawking,
why the encounters, Like people say

584
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.280
they get followed all the way back
to their cars until they leave. You

585
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:44.039
know, the stuff won't stop until
they leave. My opinion is that these

586
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.800
animals are extremely migratory, and when
I say that, some people get tripped

587
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.239
up on that word. They're not
migrating due to weather. I can't tell

588
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.199
you how many emails we get saying, oh, Bigfoot's not scared of the

589
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:59.639
cold, and never said they were
migrating because it was snowing. There's Bigfoot

590
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:04.159
in the last They're doing just fine
in Alaska. I think it's more food

591
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.119
driven. If they're that large,
you know, we're talking about a lot

592
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.079
of calories being taken up, and
if you don't want to be found,

593
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:13.480
you know, with your presidence noticed, you got to kind of keep moving.

594
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.199
And I think it's also reproductively driven. I don't think they reproduce every

595
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.079
year. I think it's more like
us, you know, where a female

596
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.599
will reproduce cover several times in their
life or whatever. I think they pick

597
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:29.079
these areas that are hyper safe and
easily defendable. And the reason that these

598
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:30.880
encounters. I think this area is
one of them where they give birth or

599
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:35.880
reproduce in some way. I think
these areas are one of them because the

600
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.360
encounters are so so scary. Nobody
ever gets hurt, as far as we

601
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.960
know, nobody ever gets hit with
a rock. Nobody, you know,

602
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.360
But they're terrifying. They're false charging, You're throwing sticks, they're shaking the

603
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.400
branch. That's a big one in
that part of hawking is they'll grab these

604
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:53.199
two trees and just shake them.
It's to make sure you don't come back.

605
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:57.639
You got too close, to my
opinion, to a really small bigfoot,

606
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.639
like a real baby, and they're
making I'm sure you know that do

607
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:05.440
not come back here. You know, they're keeping their kids safe. And

608
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.440
we see that in a lot of
primate troops. That's I don't know if

609
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.880
Bigfoot is a primate. You know, we all have mixed opinions of what

610
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:15.119
bigfoot is, sure, But as
far as behaviors, we look for the

611
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.719
animal kingdom between us and the animal
kingdom for behaviors and kind of match them

612
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.719
up to what we see in sasquatch
reports. So that's when I would say

613
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:25.880
Congcose Hollow is a beautiful park.
It has a accessibility in one and it

614
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.599
has a real hiking trail, so
there's both there. If your accessibility is

615
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.599
limited, Oh you've got bad knee
like me, there's a trail for that.

616
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.599
If not, they have a really
it's this really cool ravine and when

617
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.679
you get there you can really get
the feeling of why there could be something

618
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.559
ten feet off there? What you
know you can I could have a man,

619
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:45.599
I'm a thirty feet away from me. You probably never know it.

620
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:47.960
That's awesome. Thank you for sharing
that. I know. Ye, well,

621
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.599
it's great when people in the community
can can share things. I know

622
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:54.039
there's not a lot of sharing,
but it's always great when someone can share

623
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:58.079
something like that. Yeah, I
mean, go out and enjoy the state

624
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.719
parks absolutely, Like a lot of
Ohio sightings are car sightings. We have

625
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:05.400
a lot, a lot of a
lot of car sidings and it's people driving

626
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.239
around at night in the State National
Forest and then joining themselves and a big

627
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.039
foot runs out right before right after. I don't know why they do that.

628
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.239
You know, to me, why
won't you wait until the car's down

629
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:19.119
the road a little bit? But
they do this absolutely. So we are

630
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:24.199
going to do a hard transition to
talk about my favorite Cryptids of the Corn

631
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:30.960
episode, which is the Hyena episode. Has anyone heard the Hyena episode from

632
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.639
Kryptis of the Corn? Yeh?
Then you're in for a treat. So

633
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:38.800
is it possible to do a elevator
pitch for what happened? We'll do really

634
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:43.599
fast, all right, go ahead? Hyena's anybody's seen a hyaena in North

635
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.800
America? Just checking, just putting
that out there now. So a long

636
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:51.760
time ago, a guy named Sean
vannanoos vanda Hoo's however you say his last

637
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:53.480
name? Great listener to the show, good friend of ours now sent me

638
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.519
an email saying, Hey, when
I was young, I see a hyena.

639
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.440
Here's where I seen a hyena.
He's like, I thought it was

640
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.559
somebody. I don't know if it's
an episode or whatever, so like whatever,

641
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:06.880
I'll look into it. A lot
of hyenas are seen in North America,

642
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:09.559
and by a lot, I mean
a lot of hyaenas are seen in

643
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:15.079
North America. So we started looking
into it. We had a documentary and

644
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.960
there's a second documentary coming out about
it. All like we're working on already

645
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.920
an extra and there's an extra half
hour of the first win that never got

646
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.239
released, of encounters and going to
these encounters and showing you this stuff.

647
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:29.719
So how could a hyena be in
North America? The first thing you think

648
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.599
of is zoos and pets, right
escaping. It doesn't have to do anything

649
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:37.519
with it, or doesn't have to
be related to those events. So in

650
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:43.159
the early nineteen hundreds, you could
order any big game animal from a back

651
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:45.880
of a magazine. And I'm talking
to lion cubs, grizzly bear cubs.

652
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:51.000
You know, you could get big
megafauna delivered to your house for twenty five

653
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.440
dollars off of the back of a
magazine. So some of our research we

654
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:59.440
found in three years in the early
nineteen tens, there were about three thousand

655
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:04.880
hyaenas imported the US in a year. Where they all go, you know

656
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.599
when you have you buy this hyena
cub and you think it's gonna be your

657
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:09.159
dog, and it gets to be
one hundred and fifty pounds and it can

658
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:14.320
bite through your leg in one go. They have crazy jawl pressure. Yeah,

659
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:16.000
I'm sure some people shot them.
I'm sure half the people are just

660
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:19.679
like, well, go live.
Well, how could a hyenas survive?

661
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.519
You know, and why don't we
see them? So that's great, there's

662
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.840
great questions. You guys would do
a good job. No, So,

663
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:34.000
hyenas have really cool biology. They're
really really huh PG. Oh I'm not

664
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:37.840
gonna talk Okay, Yeah, there's
some non PG biology about hyenas if anybody

665
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:42.320
wants to talk to me later,
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, No,

666
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.159
I won't go into that. No, they're they're really good at adapting

667
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.360
the cold and altitude. Hyenas can
be found in mountaintops to the deep savannah.

668
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.639
They are completely fine with below freezing
temperatures and even sub zero temperatures for

669
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:58.480
short periods of time. So hyenas, the modern species we have lived all

670
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.280
the way into the UK in auction, almost all the way to Siberia,

671
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:06.679
and humans were the big reason their
range is restricted to Africa and some of

672
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:12.480
the Middle East. So the species
we have now are completely capable of surviving

673
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.559
pretty much anywhere in North America.
Besides, like they're really northern part of

674
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.280
the Yukon. Now, with their
behaviors, everybody's seen the hyenas on TV

675
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:21.800
or in person or whatever. They're
loud, right, they're voice terous,

676
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.280
their pack animals, they kind of
get goofy. They have two sets of

677
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:30.599
biological behaviors. So when they're in
big groups they're like that, they're loud,

678
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:35.400
they're noisy, they don't care if
they're seen or whatever. They completely

679
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.800
flip the switch. When it's just
one or two hyenas, they become almost

680
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:44.599
identical to big cat behaviors. They
get super secretive, they don't make noise,

681
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:49.280
they could become fully nocturnal, they
avoid humans completely. So hyenas aren't

682
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.119
dogs and they're not cats. They're
their own group of animals. They're much

683
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.440
more close related things like musclids.
So your mink, your weasels, your

684
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:58.559
skunks. I know, they look
like a canid, they're not a canad

685
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.679
in any part of their biology.
So that's why they can switch into this

686
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:06.320
like big cat roll. So,
in our opinion, what happened is a

687
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.760
bunch of hyaenas got reintroduced North America. Are hyaena that lived here just want

688
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:13.559
to extinct eleven thousand years ago,
so there was already a hyena here relatively

689
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:20.400
recently they got reintroduced. People shot
at them and they hid, and they

690
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.400
are in very very limited numbers.
They're probably carcass surfacing off of highways.

691
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:28.719
Almost all of our sightings are road
sidings where people are driving late at night

692
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:30.760
and they see a hyaena stand up
and carrying the deer carcass off the road

693
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:35.360
right because it's food. You know, why would you There's no need for

694
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.000
a hyena to hunt in North America
if you just follow a road, you

695
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.639
know, there's plenty of deer,
muskonk or whatever to eat. In the

696
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.360
early nineteen hundreds, like in the
nineteen twenties and thirties, we had like

697
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:50.360
bulldog bears what they were being called, and booger bears, and these animals

698
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:53.320
that were popping up all over North
America that were killing cattle, that were

699
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:57.679
killing deer, and they said they
look kind of like a bear, but

700
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.239
their heads were really wide like a
dog. They called them bulldog bears is

701
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:04.599
the own name we used a lot
in the documentary. So a hayena kind

702
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.840
of looks like halfway between a bear
and a bulldog. And their bite pressure,

703
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:12.159
like they were killing these cows out
in Nebraska by just biting their guts

704
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.719
and yanking. That's what hyena's due
to big mammals is they use their jaw

705
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:20.519
pressure to just put a one kill
blow and then they kind of back off,

706
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:22.480
and you know, the animal,
you're not gonna survive that. You

707
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:28.079
know you're gonna die eventually. So
that's our whole kind of theory with hyenas

708
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.880
U And I'm talking after we did
the first episode, we got flooded with

709
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.320
encounters. We did the documentary,
we got flooded with encounters. They are

710
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.639
because most people don't report them because
you see it and you think, oh,

711
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.960
some guy down the road must own
a hyena, and it's out.

712
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.360
You know what a hyena looks like. So that's an actual definition of cryptid

713
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.280
is an or out of place animal. Michigans have a problem in one of

714
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.719
their force with EMUs that are reproducing
right now. EMUs apparently insurvive the weather

715
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:57.000
quite fine. We have them here
in Ohio. We have emu farms that

716
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:01.719
survive all year outside. They're good
parents, so they establish there's not many

717
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:06.880
things in Michigan that can eat in
an adult emu let alone try to steal

718
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.519
its babies. So I think the
same thing happened with these hyenas, and

719
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:15.280
they're just in the reclusive form.
But how many weird sounds we've had,

720
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:17.639
We've bigfoot. People have talked about
it a lot where you get almost the

721
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:22.880
laughs, yes, and yeah,
what if that is every once in a

722
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:28.199
while you get a hyena nearby,
and it could be covergent like habitat where

723
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.960
if it's good for a bigfoot,
it's good for a hyena kind of deal.

724
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.960
You know. We see that with
species. Both spotted and brown hyenas

725
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:37.320
are seen in North America, so
it's really easy to tell them part one's

726
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:42.719
got spots. One doesn't, super
easy. But browns have the shaggy the

727
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.239
shaggy hair and stuff like that.
Browns almost look when you see a spotted

728
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:50.159
heina, browns almost look like sick
because they're a lot like they're hunched over

729
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:53.119
more they look you know. But
yeah, there's hyenas north America. So

730
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:55.559
if you hear it laughing in the
middle of the night in the woods and

731
00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:00.400
maybe bigfoot, maybe a hyena big
for society would be right back after these

732
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:21.800
messages, have you found a lot
of reports coming from certain areas or are

733
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:25.119
they still? It is almost every
state we have at least one report from

734
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:29.519
at this point. Yeah, I'm
talking. Even Alaska has had a couple

735
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.440
hyghena sightings. A Canada. We've
gotten a bunch from Canada that it's too

736
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:36.719
hard for us to deal with those
right this second, because I've never been

737
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:38.639
to Canada. You know, just
these these areas that are popping up.

738
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.920
There's no rhyme or reason really from
the map we've kind of built so far

739
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:49.480
with this phenomena there, it's very
rare to see near big metropolitan areas.

740
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.519
That's about the only thing. But
you know, it's about the same with

741
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:54.360
big Foot. Not saying they don't
ever get close to a big metropolitan area,

742
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:59.440
just rare for those things to happen. Are they ever seen in caves

743
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.639
or around Yes? Okay, yeah, Kentucky the Mammoth Cave area has a

744
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:06.840
bunch of hanging sightings. Oh dear, But I mean it makes sense those

745
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.920
are shelters for animals. I don't
know anybody's seen that recent video of the

746
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:15.559
cavers out west crawled super deep into
this cave they shouldn't have, and they

747
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:21.719
started hearing that, and he rounds
a corner and it's a mountain lion.

748
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.119
They had cornered this mountain lion.
So in the mountain lion's defense, these

749
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:29.800
people had quote unquote chased it all
the way down in this deep dark cave

750
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.480
and now it's turned around and it's
not happy, and they're like and these

751
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:37.480
people are just sitting there laughing about
it, like, Oh, I've got

752
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.039
a big cat in here with us. It's not good. Yeah, that's

753
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:44.559
not good. Not a smart move. From all the reports you've received,

754
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:49.719
what do you think the closest someone
has gotten to one of these hyaenas when

755
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.559
they say they've taken stuff out of
trucks? Really? Yeah, So everybody's

756
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:58.079
heard the dog band stuff like the
I'm just blanket on the Beasta Bay Road

757
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.199
where the guy that's cleaning up carcasses
had the carcases disappear. That's happened with

758
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:06.119
the hyena phenomena too, where they
kind of see him out of the rear

759
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:09.159
view mirror and like leaning up to
grab the cader or whatever they have in

760
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:13.679
the back and yank it and run
the garbage truck guy. And from the

761
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:17.880
documentary was about one of the closest
full body encounters we've had. It was

762
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.559
red at dusk, so we don't
get a lot of the day encounters,

763
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:23.840
and that wouldn't make sense biologically for
the hyenas. You know, we talk

764
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:28.519
about when they're in low numbers,
they switched to being fully nocturnal, so

765
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:30.440
people aren't really you know, you
don't get to see a big distance at

766
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:35.519
night and stuff like that. So
this garbage truck driver said that basically the

767
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:39.119
hyena was stealing garbage and he feels
that he was just the hya maybe been

768
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:44.480
running a little bit late that day
and so it normally had probably been done

769
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.159
by the time he comes around to
collect this stuff. But yeah, very

770
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:49.920
close. I mean, people have
been me to you, you know,

771
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:53.639
from these things. Do you think
this is the scientific community on board with

772
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:57.119
this or is this a thing where
you kind of get pushed back from all

773
00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:00.000
right, So it's a good question. Okay, it's a mixed back,

774
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.639
okay, and that's all. That's
the science. One thing you'll learn from

775
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:08.679
our show is there's no such thing
as the scientifical way of thinking because science

776
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:13.599
in itself, scientists, high level
sciences, they're both extremely credible in the

777
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:17.639
same field, can disagree about a
subject completely. So when you somebody says,

778
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:21.159
well this is what you know,
this is what science says, you

779
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:24.519
can find the exact same article of
the opposite opinion from somebody that's just dis

780
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:29.760
credible, so you can. I
can't announce it yet, but there is

781
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:37.599
a state official that maybe has proof
of a hyena where they're from stop it.

782
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:42.719
And they didn't know that there was
a phenomenon like this. They thought

783
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:46.760
it was an exotic that got out
from somebody's farm. So they're they're trying

784
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:51.760
to figure out, like, well, who locally has a hyena illegally?

785
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:57.440
Do they have video or there's physical
proof? Dude? That's awesome. Look

786
00:51:57.480 --> 00:51:59.679
out for part two. Oh.
Part two is going to be great,

787
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.079
even better than part one, which
yeah is possible. I mean, we

788
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:07.239
don't know how to film anything,
but yeah, so I will say justin

789
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:12.559
Kryptis of the Corns have these amazing
documentaries you can watch on YouTube. I

790
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.159
highly recommend them. What are some
other ones you have besides the hyena?

791
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:20.480
So right now it's just hyena and
it's the giant catfish in North America.

792
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.920
We actually have another one coming out
here later this year. Urban Homesteading the

793
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:28.360
Teacher how To. It's kind of
we do what we want, right,

794
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:30.960
that's what we do. So I
homestead in my town. So we're kind

795
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:34.400
of walking through the process. You
don't have to go full bore and do

796
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.599
have this, but how to have
adical medicine garden, how to raise some

797
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.039
quail, how to you know,
have berries in your yard and stuff like

798
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:43.000
that. I live in a quarter
of an a gurden. I've canned enough

799
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.480
food probably this past two years to
last a decade out of my little yard

800
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.800
and just kind of so that's kind
of one. Yeah, we also have

801
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:54.280
this thank you you. I do
think this was right in front of my

802
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.960
face. Actually, you were going
to get a few minutes at the very

803
00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:04.840
end, So I would love to
transition to this if you can talk about

804
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.760
this amazing event you have. So
we're putting on Christs of Corn. It's

805
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.760
putting on the Ohio Bigfoot Jamboree.
It's October fifth and aight, o Ohio

806
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:15.280
at the Northea Lanes Bowling Alley.
Check out the facebook page all the informations

807
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:19.320
there. Kind of ded that's the
best way. We get to speak at

808
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:21.480
all these amazing events, and we
get to go all over the country and

809
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:23.239
do this stuff. And we actually
been invited to other countries to speak.

810
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:25.679
Really we had turned down with the
girls this year and stuff like that,

811
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.559
but we've been very blessed and we
really want to bring something home to our

812
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:34.599
community. Like this site of Ohio
gets all the attention goods it deserves it.

813
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:37.119
But we're all driving, like I
tell you what, from our town

814
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:40.440
to like a Hockey Hills bigger festival
over here. There's like a car load

815
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:43.920
of people or several cars that have
to drive. You drive all the way

816
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:47.760
down for that festivals three hours away, so we're bringing one home. One

817
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:52.639
of the speakers is actually in the
audience, Jake Dressel. Hey, all

818
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:58.239
right, Jake, but no I
love Jake to death. But it's the

819
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.280
bending area is free for the public. Speakers or tickets. I'm already half

820
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:05.159
sold out as of recording this or
doing this publicly, So he went,

821
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.239
Tickets to space is limited, but
it's only fifty bucks a ticket. We're

822
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:12.559
making zero dollars. We're doing this
for fun, or make that very clear.

823
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:15.519
There's gonna be a lot of science
based stuff. A couple of the

824
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:20.440
Bigfoot researchers, like everybody here probably
knows b Mills love be to Death.

825
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:24.360
She has a brand new presentation for
our events exclusively, so she's debuting at

826
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:29.360
our event. So super I love
be to Death. Joel Thomas has done

827
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:30.880
a lot of documentaries. Oh cool. Yeah, Joel's one of the speakers,

828
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.360
so he's gonna kind of talk about
that of how you go out and

829
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:36.639
do these things while you're trying to
do it with the film crew and they

830
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:42.480
have flavor. We're speaking. Oh
and John Hickinbottom, the State Naturalist.

831
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.760
Love John to death. I have
heard John's great best Mustache in Ohio.

832
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:50.840
He's won that several times. But
yeah, there's gonna be food fifty to

833
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:52.880
fifty. There's a charity event.
I guess said. We were at ronm

834
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:54.559
with Dollahouse for a long period of
time, so there's a charity event typically

835
00:54:54.639 --> 00:55:00.719
kind of geared towards that one.
Like relaxed is the feel listen to our

836
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:05.239
show and you get to know us. We're very much relaxed. Oh so

837
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:07.760
that's the goal. Justin in the
last few minutes, Is there anything else

838
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:12.519
that you would like to make sure
the audience knows about your podcast? How

839
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:14.960
they can listen to you guys,
how they can fall along all that good

840
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:17.480
stuff. So available in every podcast
catcher, everywhere you listen to any show

841
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:22.639
you're listening to right now, We're
available well. Also crypscorn dot com is

842
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:24.880
our website. You can listen to
everything there. We do several other smaller

843
00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:28.199
shows that we just kind of do
for the fun of it, like Freaky

844
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:30.840
for on a Friday is my pet
project, where you get it to learn

845
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:35.800
like fifteen minutes about a freaking nature
every week. This week's was the Inland

846
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:37.639
Typean, one of the most vendomus
stakes in the world, but it's very

847
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:40.159
docile. It does not want to
just don't pick it up. You're not

848
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:45.039
gonna get bit of me. Don't
pick it up. But yeah, those

849
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:47.400
things you can find all the information. We have the Facebook group. All

850
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:52.559
we do Cribson Coffee every Tuesday morning, nine am. It's Eastern Standard time.

851
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:54.760
It's an hour of just kind of
hanging out on Facebook Live and Instagram

852
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:58.440
Live and on YouTube live. Just
hanging out for an hour, just talking

853
00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:02.800
about what happened this week and just
relaxing kind of thing. I think that's

854
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:06.280
pretty much it. Jay's normally the
promoter. I'm so bad at this.

855
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:09.159
You guys make a good duo.
So if you're into big for society,

856
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:14.079
I would really recommend that you start
listening to justin Cryptis of the Corn.

857
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:17.320
You will love it. And to
everyone who's here, watching live. Thank

858
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:22.320
you so much. I appreciate you
all listening. Literally, I could not

859
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:27.559
do what I do without the support
of you all listening. And there's a

860
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.440
few Patreon members here as well.
I appreciate you guys more than you know.

861
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:35.719
And if you haven't listened to either
Cryptois of the Corn or Big for

862
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.039
Society, please give it a try. Try start with the Hyena episode.

863
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:43.440
That's a great one, yeah,
and it took a life of its own

864
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.960
kind of deal. Absolutely, And
if you want to start with one of

865
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:50.920
mine, listen to the last year's
live episode with Martin Groves is a really

866
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:53.159
fun one to listen to. You, but have a good one with all

867
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:55.519
of them. And I just want
to say thank you guys for being here.

868
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:10.119
Alex Petticoff and we are live at
Monsterfest in Canton, Ohio, So

869
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:14.199
I just wanted to catch up with
Alex. What have you been up to?

870
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:17.119
Man? What haven't I been on
to? Is the question. I've

871
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:22.000
been doing my series Strange Places,
as well as plenty of Bigfoot Beyond the

872
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.800
Trail, kind of like balancing fifty
to fifty now between Bigfoot stuff and then

873
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:31.440
Strange Places, doing a lot of
stuff. UFOs weird locations doing some stuff

874
00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:37.679
on this crazy radar base abandoned radar
base in Vermont that's connected to the Betting

875
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:42.719
and Parney Hill abduction. So that's
a fun one. Brown Mountain Lights stuff

876
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.440
with Hellbent holler. Gosh. We
got a lot of crazy stuff coming up,

877
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:49.559
a lot of cool Pacific Northwest Bigfoot
stuff too. That's a little bit

878
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:52.280
of a teaser. I was gonna
fish for a teaser. So there is

879
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:57.280
potentially Bigfoot stuff coming plenty of it. Yeah, there's gonna be some direct

880
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:01.840
follow ups to previous Beyond the Trail
episodes in the Pacific Northwest, so keep

881
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:05.480
out for that. And there's gonna
be other cool stuff strange places out there

882
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:07.119
as well. Yeah, we're just
keeping busy. You know. We're doing

883
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.400
a lot of stuff at STM.
We've always got many you know, coals

884
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:14.960
in the fire kind of thing.
So we've also got some incredible documentaries coming

885
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:19.639
up. But I can't unfortunately disclose
any details, but maybe oh more to

886
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:22.760
come. I love it. Thank
you Alex for spending a few minutes with

887
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.639
us, and I hope the rest
of the day goes well for sure.

888
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:30.000
All Right, we got Aaron D's
here at monster Fest two. How's it

889
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:32.679
going, Aaron? It is going
great, Jeremiah, it is so good

890
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:36.760
to see it. And what is
the thing that you are looking forward to

891
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:40.519
about today the most? I am
just most excited to see everybody come together

892
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:45.639
to see the community just you know, gather over a shared passion. People

893
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:47.039
come from all over the place for
this, all over the country, so

894
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:52.039
it's very exciting to see that and
just be a part of that energy.

895
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:55.440
Absolutely, so good to see again. Thanks for chatting, Aaron. Thank

896
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:59.840
you. So guys. It's Matt
Arner. We've talked to him. He

897
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:04.800
is the gentleman that we talked to
about bigfoot in the Pocono's and other areas,

898
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:07.320
and he's from the Sasquatch Experience podcast. Correct. Yeah, how's it

899
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:13.840
going, man, It's going great. It absolutely is fantastic, and I'm

900
00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:16.880
happy to be here. I'm happy
to be here with you too. Absolutely,

901
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:22.760
you got any cool updates about bigfoot
stuff out in Pennsylvania? Well,

902
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:27.000
right now, our area is kind
of off limits. And the reason why

903
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:30.679
I'm saying it's off limits is nature
doesn't necessarily want us to be there.

904
00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:42.679
It's rattlesnake season and just the terrain
is is just extremely rough for walking and

905
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:46.360
it's a little hot out there,
so we're letting nature, you know,

906
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:52.280
basically, you know, keep its
area nice and quiet, and then hopefully

907
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:58.360
soon I'll be able to go up
and record some evidence from our from our

908
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:04.320
wildlife recorders and trail cams. That's
awesome. We'll definitely keep in touch if

909
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:07.639
you're able to get any cool evidence, and it's always fun chatting with you,

910
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:13.679
dude. I will always let you
know because we're always big fans of

911
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:17.079
the show. Thanks Matt. All
right, we got Jeff from Strangeology here.

912
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:21.119
He is frantically trying to set up
his booth in the last minutes before

913
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:24.639
the VIP come. How's it going, Jeff? You know it's going well

914
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:31.119
this morning. We're just kind of
trying to put everything together and have a

915
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:37.000
nice display for all the VIPs and
the general attendance all throughout the day from

916
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:39.599
Uscrofest. What do you think the
hot item is going to be at the

917
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:45.320
Strangeology booth this year? Oh well, I've got these brand new shirts called

918
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:49.559
the Fordian Social Club shirts. First
time at an event. I think people

919
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:52.760
are gonna love them. Dude,
I love it. How can people get

920
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:55.400
that if they're not here, well, I've got an Etsy shop Strangeology dot

921
01:00:55.440 --> 01:01:00.159
Etsy dot com where you can grab
that shirt, as well as dozens of

922
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:05.880
other designs for cryptids, aliens and
all out Fortyana. This thing is so

923
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:10.599
great. All right? We got
Jeff Craig from The Map in Black here

924
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:15.679
at Monsterfest too. How's it going, man? Doing well? Excited for

925
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:17.519
a big event this year. I
was here last year and it's looking like

926
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:22.679
it's shaping up to be even bigger
this year. I'm telling you people at

927
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:27.400
van Meter they're always like, is
that Map guy back? So dude,

928
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:30.760
people love your stuff. What do
you think the top thing this year at

929
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:34.760
Monsterfest is going to be for you? The top thing for me is I

930
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:37.599
just always see in the community,
whether it's the people that attend or my

931
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:45.159
fellow vendors and Jeremiah, who I
met at Van Meter year and a half

932
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:47.480
ago. I wish I could have
come back last year. I love Van

933
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:52.320
Meter, I love Iowa. And
that sounds really weird, sound like a

934
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:57.800
political candidate. Well, if you
are political candidate, you should come to

935
01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:00.639
Iowa. I always fund a chat. I'm glad that you're here this year,

936
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:06.199
but thanks for chatting Jeff Big for
Society. Will be right back after

937
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:25.440
these messages. All right. We
got Jonathan Dodd here, Artists, illustrator,

938
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:30.039
designer extraordinaire. Always great to see
him. I'm actually wearing a shirt

939
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:35.199
that says I collect Bigfoot stories that
he designed, so I'm a huge fan.

940
01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:37.119
I mean, you even did the
logo. So great to see you,

941
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:40.880
Jonathan again. Good to see you
too. Thanks for coming out and

942
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.440
documenting the show. I'm really stoked
for this. Absolutely. Do you have

943
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:52.119
a big new thing for monster fests
this year? Yes, I have a

944
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:55.079
few new prints out right now.
I have the Remember Only you can Prevent

945
01:02:55.159 --> 01:03:00.480
Toxic Swamps. It's a Smoky the
Bear version of the off Man. And

946
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:07.639
I have a new big footprint it's
called Bigfoot Origins and it has a Gigantopithecus

947
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:14.199
skull it's got uh woo woo ufo
on there, and then a DNA strand

948
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:19.039
Jonathan, thanks for thanks for being
here. We always appreciate seeing Yeah,

949
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:23.239
thank you have a good one.
Thanks dude, Neil Dude, Hey,

950
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:30.960
we got a special individual here.
We got Ken gearhard cryptos zoologists. How's

951
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.760
it going today, Ken? It's
going great, brother, So good to

952
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:39.000
be here. Absolutely, it was
fun riding from the airport to uh Canton

953
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:42.880
with you yesterday. But what's what
kind of cool stuff you got at your

954
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:45.360
table today? Well, I have
a selection of all my books, all

955
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:51.719
six and a couple of DVDs,
stickers and photos, the usual fair for

956
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:57.159
this type of event. Got any
cool projects that you've got you're working on

957
01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:01.079
or some maybe secret stuff? Well
I do have a secret project. Little

958
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:05.639
teaser is something that'll hopefully develop later
this year that I'm excited about, potential

959
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:12.400
expedition in a I think a very
promising area. Other than that, I've

960
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:18.480
been teaching online cryptozoology courses, so
that's something that people are interested in they

961
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:21.039
can reach out to me. We
cover a wide range of cryptids. It's

962
01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:26.239
a six class course, comes with
a certificate, and so far I've had

963
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:29.440
three sessions and all the students have
been very excited about it. I know

964
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:31.639
my buddy Scott has been loving that. But what's the best way people can

965
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:34.280
reach out to you for that?
Well, of course they can find me

966
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:40.599
on my website kengarhard dot com.
When I'm also on Facebook, Instagram,

967
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:44.440
YouTube, x and all those other
platforms. All right, thank you,

968
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:46.440
Ken, I'm not rushing your honors. No, No, it's going to

969
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:51.519
be quick. Yeh. We got
Eli Watson here, director extraordinary from Small

970
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:55.239
Town Monsters. How's it going dude? It's good man. I'm glad to

971
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:59.719
be here. Dude. I was
so excited to see Ogo Pogo I got

972
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:02.159
a it was great. How did
you feel about the premiere last night?

973
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:06.079
I think it went well. I'm
just happy that people actually like it.

974
01:05:09.119 --> 01:05:13.880
How can people watch this movie?
Well, now you can get a copy

975
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:16.800
on Blu ray and DVD, I
believe. But it'll be out later this

976
01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:23.639
month AND's a lie for Amazon Prime, I believe. So awesome, Eli,

977
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:27.320
always a pleasure to chat with you. Thanks, thank you, dud.

978
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:31.400
Yeah, hey guys, we got
Lyle Blackburn here. Lyle's a cryptozoologist.

979
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:34.199
He's been on the podcast before.
How's it going, Lyle? It's

980
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:39.480
going great, dude. It's always
good to see you at festivals like this.

981
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:42.360
But what do you got going on
right now? Any cool new stuff

982
01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:45.280
coming up? Man? Well,
I've been working on a new book as

983
01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:50.880
I have time. It's about the
infamous Lakecourse Monster, which is a legendary

984
01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:59.280
creature phenomenon that occurred in Texas.
In nineteen sixty nine, only about thirty

985
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:01.960
minutes from where I live. So
it's one of those sort of my hometown

986
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:06.199
monsters, and it really needs a
book. People keep asking me about it,

987
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:11.800
and it's kind of a legendary bigfoot
meets goat man type thing. I

988
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:14.440
love that. My audience will be
happy to hear that. That comes up

989
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:17.599
every once in a while from my
listeners, so it'd be exciting to see

990
01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:21.199
that come out. But thanks so
much for chatting for a bit lyle you

991
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:28.199
bet. Thanks man. Hey,
we got Mark Munsey from the Erie Travels

992
01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:30.679
podcast here. How's it going?
Mark? Oh good? Doing well?

993
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:34.440
Greetings travelers, thanks for coming here
to the Small Town Monster Fest two in

994
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:39.360
Canton, Ohio. Absolutely what kind
of stuff you got at your booth today,

995
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:42.599
Mark, Well, we've got the
books. We've done the I did

996
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:45.079
three of the Erie Florida book series, Erie Florida, Freaky Florida, and

997
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:48.079
Creaky Florida, and then I ran
out of adjectives, so I did Erie

998
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:53.920
Appalachia, and then the sequel to
that, Erie Smoky Mountains is coming a

999
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:59.119
little bit later this year's. And
then my wife, the illustrator, she's

1000
01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.480
the real talent. She also illustrated
a Natural Ohio for History Press, and

1001
01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:05.760
so we've got that here too.
Then we've got her art and then some

1002
01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:10.400
of her crochet as well, because
she is she's the talent. I just

1003
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:14.280
do words absolutely so Smoky Mountains,
that's gonna be awesome. Can you give

1004
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:18.400
any sneak peak about that? Yeah, well we start. It's basically a

1005
01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:24.880
round trip, so you start in
Chattanooga and then head into Severeville, Gatlinburg,

1006
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:29.440
Pigeon Forge. But we've got every
little holler, monster, unusual place

1007
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:32.400
that you can stay. It's basically
a seven day road trip around the mountains

1008
01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:39.920
and filled with dark history, ghosts, monsters, spearfinger Cherokee legends, and

1009
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:43.920
all kinds of fun stuff. So
that is going to go so well,

1010
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:45.599
Oh my goodness, I'm excited to
get a copy of that. But thanks

1011
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:53.800
for thanks for stopping by, Mark, Yeah, thank you. All right,

1012
01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:58.960
we got the Paul Bartholomew here from
Whitehall, New York area, right

1013
01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:02.280
right, Yep. Paul is a
person I haven't been able to chat with

1014
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:04.800
yet, but we're going to set
that up for the future. He's got

1015
01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:10.239
such a wealth and knowledge about Bigfoot
in the Whitehall area of New York.

1016
01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:14.079
But what are some cool things you
got at your booths today, Paul,

1017
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:16.479
Right, Well, we've got when
I went to school. I went to

1018
01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:21.479
school at castle In College and the
professor there was doctor Warren Cook, and

1019
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:26.479
he went to China in nineteen eighty
five, so we've got some artifacts that

1020
01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:29.399
he brought back from China. Here, we've got one of the castings of

1021
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:32.359
the Chayrin or the wild Man from
over there, and he went there in

1022
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:38.920
eighty five. And here's some of
the Bhutan stamps, the original Bhutan stamps,

1023
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:45.880
and there's a cha Rin science magazine
as well from nineteen eighty five,

1024
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:49.319
so we've got sort of that representation. We've also got a bunch of things

1025
01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:54.159
from the White Hall area, like
the abear Road sketches of the creature that

1026
01:08:54.199 --> 01:08:58.760
was spotted there in nineteen seventy six, which involved several law enforcement agencies.

1027
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:01.760
And we've got spark sighting, which
was a year before that, in nineteen

1028
01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:09.399
seventy five in May, and he
saw this conical shaped heag creature that moved

1029
01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:15.239
sloth like and had red glowing eyes, which is his account is very important

1030
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:19.479
because of that description. He was
actually looking at the eyes as they were

1031
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:23.560
focused on his dog and not as
him, and so he was able to

1032
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:30.039
describe this strange effect. And most
recently we have the Bigfoot Sanctuary sign that

1033
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:35.239
has been put into Whitehall, and
that is to show respect for the stone

1034
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:41.399
giants and wild men of the mountain
reports and right up to present day.

1035
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:47.239
So we've got serving a Smorgesborg of
various things regarding the Northeast Bigfoot phenomena.

1036
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:51.199
That's awesome. Thank you for chatting
a little bit about that, Paul today.

1037
01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:55.439
I really appreciate it, and we
will be in touch in the future.

1038
01:09:55.479 --> 01:10:01.279
I think absolutely. Hey, we
got Amy Boo here from Amy's bucket

1039
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:06.600
list expeditions. How's it going,
Amy, It's going great. I'm up

1040
01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:11.000
and at him, getting ready for
everybody to get here, excited to meet

1041
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:15.920
people and hear stories. And I'm
doing a little demo later about how to

1042
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:20.640
cast some tracks. I'm excited for
that. Except is it during I think

1043
01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:26.079
it might be during the I hope
it's not during my live podcast. If

1044
01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:29.119
it's it might be, I don't
remember the podcast, but I know it's

1045
01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:32.279
during Shay's talk and I wish I
could hear Shae talker. I might have

1046
01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:38.279
to skip out on my own podcasts, skip on each other's things. There

1047
01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:41.119
you go. What kind of cool
stuff do you have at your table today,

1048
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:43.960
Amy, Well, I have a
quilt that my mom made. She

1049
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:47.319
made one last year too, so
we're raffling that off. And I just

1050
01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:54.159
have a little bit of do dads
here. Nothing, nothing really uh spectacular.

1051
01:10:54.439 --> 01:11:00.319
I am here mostly to get stories
from people so they can come look

1052
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:02.800
at the things that I have set
up. But what I really want to

1053
01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:06.560
know is who's seemed Bigfoot? Yeah? Me too. And we had a

1054
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:11.199
great time. We had a group
together chatting at supper last night, and

1055
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:15.520
you introduced me to some awesome people. So thank you for that and just

1056
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:17.920
a pleasure seeing you today. We'll
be chatting in August, I believe,

1057
01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:20.479
so, yep, in August.
I can't wait. It was fun,

1058
01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:25.720
all right, Thanks Amy? All
right, we got Martin Grove here and

1059
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:30.560
we are back at Monsterfest. Martin, how are you doing today, sir?

1060
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:32.640
I'm doing fantastic. You know,
I'm doing a lot better now that

1061
01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:36.680
I got to run across you and
see you again. My brother. Absolutely,

1062
01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:41.159
it was a treat to see it
show up last night. I was

1063
01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:43.000
like, oh my goodness, I
didn't know Martin was going to be here

1064
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:46.319
and we had such a fun time
chatting last year for my live podcast here.

1065
01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:50.119
But would you be able to give
a little update about what's been going

1066
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:55.560
on for you maybe down to LBL
or certainly Man. There has been so

1067
01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:59.399
many fantastic things that have come out
in the last six months to a year,

1068
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:02.439
and it's it's hard to like to
describe everything and put everything together.

1069
01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:08.560
But we've been going in UH very
strong since since the fall of last year.

1070
01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:15.399
Ron Moorehead, Darryl Denton and Barton
Nunley and myself have been camping all

1071
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:20.079
up and down the south and the
north entrance of the O b L and

1072
01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:27.479
UH we've had encounters, We've we've
got recordings of what we feel like is

1073
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:33.079
definitely the Beast of LBL. The
recording has been sent to scientists and it's

1074
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:38.640
not a human voice, and it
is no animal that has been recorded.

1075
01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:44.399
It's not even close to a wolf
or couti or fox or anything. It's

1076
01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:47.560
not it's not canaan. They they're
having a hard time to determine what type

1077
01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:53.520
of animal that it is. UH. Within the last month, Barton Nunley,

1078
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:58.720
h and myself along with some other
team members, encountered a portal that

1079
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:04.279
opened up on the northern entrance and
it is not It's totally unlike anything I've

1080
01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:10.600
ever seen. And this was in
an extreme remote region of the land between

1081
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:16.279
the lakes, about twenty five miles
deep, within no roads. There's no

1082
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:20.520
way that someone could have been out
in the woods generating what we saw.

1083
01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:27.880
And he has it on camera and
has kept that and he has posted the

1084
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:34.720
video and audio of this thing.
Jeremiah, it blows me away. It

1085
01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:38.920
takes a lot to really blow me
away. Another thing that's going to come

1086
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:44.279
out in my new book, The
Devil's Backbone, that I believe is going

1087
01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:46.439
to really be an eye opener.
I am going to open up and discuss

1088
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:54.399
mind speaking, one of the greatest
things that has come out since twenty sixteen.

1089
01:13:56.159 --> 01:14:02.560
A Methodist preacher got me to investigate
a cemetery in the area of the

1090
01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:12.359
we'll call it Bethlehem Road area.
And there was a large hairy beast was

1091
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:17.239
the description the priest gave me.
And I've been in there since twenty sixteen

1092
01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:29.000
recording and investigating the people that go
to this cemetery to visit their loved ones

1093
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:35.159
and place flowers out and they're been
harassed by bigfoot really and they're having objects

1094
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:41.680
thrown at them and they're having just
a lot of issues. So we recently

1095
01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:47.279
took in a camera crew that we
I'm under a non disclosure that I can't

1096
01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:53.920
speak of, but we have a
very good video of camera crew that went

1097
01:14:53.920 --> 01:15:00.600
into this very area and they had
contact. The cameraman was pretty well freaked

1098
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:05.720
out and it was a it was
a hair raising experience for him. So

1099
01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:10.720
is that something you think the public
might be able to see someday or is

1100
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:14.680
it up to someone else if that
footage has ever released. This video will

1101
01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:19.399
come out in November of this year, and it will They have released just

1102
01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:26.079
a small segment of it. This
is Greg Ogle's work and Greg has got

1103
01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:30.520
a tremendous video that he has made
and Adam Davies was a part of that.

1104
01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:35.159
And yes, the public will get
to see this sooner or later.

1105
01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:40.000
I'm excited to hear that. And
I didn't know you had a new book

1106
01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:44.399
coming out. Is there any timeframe
on that. We're hoping that July it

1107
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:48.880
will hit the shelves in July.
Aaron had released a book that we have

1108
01:15:49.319 --> 01:15:54.880
such love for and I wanted to
wait for a while until I released my

1109
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:59.239
book. And it is. It
just carries on from where Aaron has left

1110
01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:04.039
off, and it will discuss a
lot about mine speak it will, we

1111
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:09.720
will. We're going to tie in
a lot of historical facts, such as

1112
01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:16.600
what we discussed earlier with the Mormon
encounter with the banished Cane. But there

1113
01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:25.199
is so much. We have discovered
two cemetery graves that a historian has led

1114
01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:30.920
me into where there were two brothers
and these two brothers stood almost nine feet

1115
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:35.680
tall. They lived on the peninsula
and they said they were like Harry.

1116
01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:41.399
And there's a local historian out of
Dover that has led us into this area,

1117
01:16:42.039 --> 01:16:44.560
and we have measured the graves.
Of course, we do not tamper

1118
01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:48.560
with the graves. We're very respectful. But I find it amazing that we

1119
01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:55.199
have nine foot tall brothers within this
area. Of all this that's taken place

1120
01:16:55.479 --> 01:16:59.720
in the eighteen and nineteen hundreds,
that is incredible. So you mentioned mind

1121
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:01.079
speed is going to be a part
of the new book. Is that something

1122
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:05.520
you've experienced yourself, Yes, it
is. It's something that I've kept very

1123
01:17:05.640 --> 01:17:11.680
quiet about. There's a lot of
I don't bring out my research until years

1124
01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:16.399
and years later and until I know
what I have and what I have discovered.

1125
01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:20.680
And I had worked a lot with
Scott Carpenter, and Scott had taught

1126
01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:28.680
me not to be ashamed of being
mind spoke is the term because a lot

1127
01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:34.039
of people have had to deal with
these creatures speaking to them telepathically. And

1128
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:41.319
so I've had something going on since
twenty sixteen, actually since nineteen ninety three

1129
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:45.560
when I had my first encounter,
but from twenty sixteen until current date in

1130
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:50.760
this area of Bethlehem Cemetery, I
have had a lot of dealings with mine

1131
01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:58.279
speak. It's something that I've started
to look into myself, and I'm not

1132
01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:01.039
sure how I feel about it,
but I think that there is definitely something

1133
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:05.039
there that's something I'm working through,
you know, as I do now.

1134
01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:08.399
I don't do a lot of research, but I do do some research,

1135
01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:13.079
and it is it is really interesting
to think about. So have we talked

1136
01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:16.439
about you doing work with Scott Carpenter
before or is that something that you've just

1137
01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:20.119
started to talk about. No,
I've kept this to my So this was

1138
01:18:20.199 --> 01:18:25.399
between Scott and I and a lot
of data that we have shared together concerning

1139
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:31.640
uh DNA samples and things of that
nature. But he was one that he

1140
01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:38.000
gave me a lot of encouragement.
He had suffered from mine speak as well,

1141
01:18:38.039 --> 01:18:43.880
and from attacks where he was in
the Smoky mountains and where these these

1142
01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:51.359
creatures are beasts that I call them, would attack or or cause great discomfort

1143
01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:56.960
when you have contact with him,
and he was fully aware of it,

1144
01:18:57.000 --> 01:19:00.119
and he had been victim to it
as well. Well. What was that's

1145
01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:02.880
great about Scott? I mean,
he was a great phenomenal man to begin

1146
01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:11.039
with, but he was such an
encouraging soul, and he taught me one

1147
01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:15.680
thing not to be ashamed of it. I didn't speak of it and I

1148
01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:18.840
didn't promote it. But I'm more
willing to come out now because I have

1149
01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:28.039
discovered so much data from this mind
speak. And the other part that I

1150
01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:32.920
have to say is Ron Morehead.
Ron Morehead has taught me so much in

1151
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:38.079
the last few years, and I've
been an avid student, and you know,

1152
01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:43.199
we go camping together and he just
has so much wisdom. But when

1153
01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:50.199
you consider quantum, Bigfoot and the
different aspects, well the paradox of anything

1154
01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:55.760
to deal with Bigfoot or other creatures, you know, we're only slowly becoming

1155
01:19:55.840 --> 01:20:00.479
to understand the dimensions and the different
aspects of foot in where these things can

1156
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:04.760
travel or where they may even come
from. And mine speak is part of

1157
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:11.720
that. Absolutely, there's an individual
that's actually been able to carry on Scott's

1158
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:14.479
work. His name is Harley Owens, and he has access to all of

1159
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:16.720
Scott's areas. And I don't know, is that an individual that you've been

1160
01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:20.279
able to talk to it all?
Yes, very much. Harley is a

1161
01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:27.920
good guy and definitely is a man. He is going to go from from

1162
01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:31.079
Scott's work and take it to a
higher plane and learn so much. If

1163
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:36.039
you consider this, you have Scott
Carpenter and those like Scott. I won't

1164
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:40.960
throw my name in the hat,
but folks like us that have been investigating

1165
01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:45.039
for years, Harley is so much
younger, and just think about what he

1166
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:49.600
can achieve in ten or twenty years
and how much farther he will advance than

1167
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:56.159
Scott or myself or Ron moorehead and
people that's been into it for a long

1168
01:20:56.199 --> 01:21:00.960
time. Harley's a great guy.
Yes, I would agree, and I'm

1169
01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:02.920
very thankful for your time today,
Martin. I do have one more question.

1170
01:21:03.439 --> 01:21:10.800
Has there anything recently that has happened
in the LBL. Any strange attacks

1171
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:16.439
or disappearances that you've been made aware
of. The last appearance disappearance that I'm

1172
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:21.479
aware of, this did not occur
within the LBL, but it is something

1173
01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:28.159
that I take heart with and I
investigate a lot of happenings within the Smoky

1174
01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:33.479
Mountains. The last known disappearance that
I'm aware of was in twenty twenty when

1175
01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:39.399
a husband and wife disappeared. And
you won't find any records anywhere about these

1176
01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:44.760
people that have disappeared. But in
twenty twenty, a husband and wife parked

1177
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:49.319
their vehicle at the edge of the
Devil's Backbone Trail and like three to five

1178
01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:54.960
days later, their family reported them
gone. They found their vehicle, they

1179
01:21:55.000 --> 01:22:01.039
found a backpack and I believe a
lady's flop, and that was it.

1180
01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:06.159
They've not been found. But you
will not find any written paper or any

1181
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:12.560
report from this. We did find
one article at one point where there had

1182
01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:16.640
been a search for a couple and
it ended right there. That was nothing

1183
01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:21.319
else ever put out to the public. Goh, that is a heartbreaking story.

1184
01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:26.680
And I hope that someday maybe there'll
be closure that comes to the people

1185
01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:30.640
involved with that. But Martin,
thank you for spending a few minutes with

1186
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:33.760
me today. It's great to catch
up with you and we'll definitely be watching

1187
01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:38.600
to see when the new book on
the Devil's Backbone comes out. But thank

1188
01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:42.319
you again, Martin, Thank you
Jeremiah. It's always a great, great

1189
01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:44.680
day when I get to see you
and speak with you. Thank you.

1190
01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:49.840
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1191
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1192
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1193
01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:01.960
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1194
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1195
01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:12.159
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1196
01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:16.399
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1197
01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:21.399
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1198
01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:25.920
All right, I'm going to use
this space this week to announce that I'll

1199
01:23:25.960 --> 01:23:30.239
be at the Sasquatch Summerfest and Oakridge
organ as an atender. I won't be

1200
01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:34.680
presenting or anything, but I'll be
hanging out trying to interview people that have

1201
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:40.479
had bigfoot encounters. If you're from
the Oakridge, Oregon area or surrounding and

1202
01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:44.680
you've had a bigfoot experience, please
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com. Also, Priscilla was nice
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out the podcast as well. A
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Society Patreon and YouTube channel members.
It's your support that helps keep the show

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going and I extremely appreciate it.
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you can join over at Patreon dot
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I'll see you there, and again, thanks for listening. Her and

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I can get out here, we
can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody

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else out there listening it's too afraid
to tell their story. Maybe this will

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give them the courage to come out. And now it feels so bad about

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it, Who cares what anybody thinks
I know what I saw, I know

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what's out there. That's all I
care about. Please let people know,

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Please let them know. If you
ever see one of these things, you

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need to tell because if you don't, then shame on you, you know,

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shame on you.