July 9, 2025

Rocky Mountain Bigfoot! | Colorado

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Season 1

Join host Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society as Jim Myers from the Sasquatch Outpost in Bailey, Colorado, recounts his remarkable Bigfoot encounters. From his first sighting at Wellington Lake to the eerie night-time interactions during adventure outings, Jim shares his fascinating experiences. Hear about rocks being thrown, horses mysteriously untied, and terrifying tree knocks, all pointing to the presence of Sasquatch. Discover how Jim's unique approach and understanding of Sasquatch behavior have turned skeptics into believers. Don't miss these thrilling accounts of encounters in the Colorado wilderness.

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I Big for Society.

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You've got the privilege of talking to Jim Myers from

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the Sasquatch Outpost in Bailey, Colorado.

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Today. How's it going today?

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Jim going great?

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Thanks for letting me be on your show.

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Awesome.

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I am excited to have you on the show. You're

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one of did Jim. I'll tell you at my listeners

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request a good handful of names all the time. Names

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come up, and yours is one of them that a

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lot of listeners have been like, you gotta get Gym

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on the show. So thankfully we're able to get that

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to work out. And yeah, I just love what you

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guys are doing out there. But when we get someone

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on the show where you know, you've got a lot

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of stuff going on, I always like to start at

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the beginning, which is what drew you into this field

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of Bigfoot.

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To begin with, well, I have to go way back.

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I'm sixty two now, So when I was twelve, the

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movie The Legend of Boggie Creek came out in theaters

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in nineteen seventy two. Actually I was ten, and I

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remember going to watch that movie and it was rated

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G at the time and scared me. I was, I mean,

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for for being the movie that it was, and it's

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it's a decent movie. It's certainly dated today, but at

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that time that movie they used mostly local people who

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had had the encounters. That wasn't professional actors. So you know,

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it could have could have turned out really bad, but

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it didn't. But that movie scared me to death. But

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it also got me wondering whether something like this exists.

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And they never called it Bigfoot, they called it the

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Foul Monster. Being in foul Arkansas. But so that got

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me thinking, even as a kid, about this idea or

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this phenomenon. And then over the years, I spent a

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lot of years overseas. I lived overseas the about thirty

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eight years and in a lot of different places. And

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this was before internet and before cell phones and everything,

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so you know, doing research on anything back then was

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whatever your school library happened to have, and mine didn't

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have very much on Bigfoot. And so really it was

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when we moved back to the States in two thousand

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and nine that I really started to pursue researching Sasquatch.

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And then in twenty twelve I met my first eyewitness.

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It was someone here in Bailey, a local business owner,

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manager of a lodge, who I took the coffee and

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she told me the story of seeing Sasquatch. It was

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in May. This was I talked to her probably and

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late summers, maybe July or August, and she had seen

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it in May and it was daytime. It was her

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and her best friend. They both saw it, so double

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person's daytime fighting, the chance of mistaken identities virtually nil.

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edge to say, okay, so Sasquatch is truly real, because

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I can't doubt this woman. She has no reason to

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lie to me, she has every reason not to tell

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me this story. And there was still a stigma at

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that time about you know, talking about this topic and

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people making fun of you, et cetera. So that's really

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what set me off. After that, I started doing research

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seriously on my own side, and the rest is history.

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Now we've got our museum and our gift shop and

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working on an escape room and so, yeah, life has

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changed dramatically since twenty twelve.

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minutes just to make sure that we talk about the

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Sasquatch out post. I'm really interested about how that came

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about and what can people expect to find when they

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visit that location in Bailey.

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Well, originally we had in mind to build a grocery

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store mercantile, and we did. But so the building that

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we occupy was built in eighteen seventy eight, so it's

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not a new building. It's certainly been around. It suffered

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over the years. It took us about nine months to

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renovate it and rebuild it to where we could even

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get open and when this was for most of its life,

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this was the only grocery store in the front Range

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mountains of the Rockies, so they could support a staff

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of six or seven people, and everyone came here and

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bought the groceries, and they were famous for their meat

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that they sold. But over you know, probably twenty years

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ago or so, in the town of Conifer, which is

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between us and Denver, they built a safe way and

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they built the King Supers, and so people didn't really

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need this little grocery store. We didn't realize that we'd

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never run a grocery store. We'd never even been in retail,

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to be honest. So we started it off and quickly

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realized that we were the only ones eating the groceries

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because everyone else did the grocery shopping elsewhere, and they

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would come to us if they needed one thing, or

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while we need this one item for dinner that we forgot.

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have to have people actually buying their groceries with you.

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the grocery store wasn't going to work well. At the

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same time, it was around that time that I met

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this gal I just mentioned, and the show Finding Bigfoot

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came to Daily to do an episode. They're one Colorado

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episode was filmed here in Bailey, and I was at

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that town hall meeting and there was maybe one hundred

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people that came to that, And so anyway, we had

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already kind of started leaning towards doing something on the

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big foot side. We didn't know anybody who had ever

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done anything like this. We didn't talk to any other

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one exception I. The one museum I did speak to

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was Expedition Bigfoot in cherry Lock, Georgia, Mountains of North Georgia.

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Dave Bukara, who's become a really good friend since then,

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and Dave was incredibly valuable to me. Dave really got

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me the tools I needed to actually build what we

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now have today. But we had to make a decision

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which we're going to stay with groceries or go with Bigfoot.

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We obviously went with Bigfoot and started small, and and

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we realized that people came out of the woodwork, people

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who had had an encounter or were curious about Bigfoot

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were coming in talking to us, and so we started

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off just as a gift shop, basically selling Bigfoot souvenirs

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and trying to answer people's questions. I was doing my

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own research at the time as well, so I was

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learning things as we were going. But I built the

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Sasquatch Encounter Discovery Museum as a way to try to

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answer all these questions that people kept asking me every day,

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the same questions, and I thought, why don't we build

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an educational exhibit that can try and answer these questions,

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and then we can still talk to people, but they

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can get the basic questions answered by going through this museum.

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So we built that in two thousand and sixteen in

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a storage room in the back of our store. Then

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in eighteen we took over another storage room, and twenty

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we took over another storage room, so we took over

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all the room we had on the ground floor to

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build what is now there, and so since twenty sixteen,

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so when people come, obviously we have a very a

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good gift shop with things that I mean, anything that

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you can imagine with Sasquatch as a theme, we've got it.

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And we designed a lot of our merchandise ourselves. But

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the interest in Bigfoot has so dramatically changed over the

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years that there's hundreds of vendors out there who create

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their own Bigfoot things that they contact us constantly asking

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if we'll sell this for by merchandise, but in the

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museum since twenty sixteen, and to be honest, I've lost count,

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but we've had somewhere in the realm of one hundred

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some people go through our museum, coming from all over

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the US, all over the world actually now. And so

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you know, the what people will find is a is

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a gift shop. To'll find a very fascinating, if I

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say so myself. It's a fascinating educational exhibit and a

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lot of people have gone through it as skeptics and

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came out believers. And and then we have another company

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called rabbit Hole Adventures that I use to take people

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out into the woods hiking, camping, horseback camping every summer.

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So all that combined is kind of what we do

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now as our living.

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I love how you said that there's even some skeptics

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that have come out of their actually believing, which is

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is very cool, very cool to hear that. I love

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hearing that from you know, you hear that from exhibition,

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Bigfoot Museum, Cliff Museum, all the all the other pieces

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as well, but it is it's so cool to hear

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that all the time, and I think that is a

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great thing. I mean, that's that's one of the reasons

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that that you guys are there, but also probably to

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you know, I would guess it's a great place for

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people to share what they've experienced in a location where

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they don't have to be afraid of people making fun

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of them, right, and people.

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You know, ten years ago, people were very hesitant to

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tell a story, and they would wait till there was

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no one else in the store before they would tell

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their story. And now people just come up to the

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counter and ask me questions and whether I'm telling a

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story or they're telling me their story, anyone else in

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the store comes over to listen. And this happens regularly,

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and so yeah, the stigma I think is kind of

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not completely gone, but rapidly disappearing because there's so many

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bigs of shows on TV, podcasts, you know, the so

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I think people are realizing, Okay, this is mainstream now.

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This is really not a fringe group of people. I mean,

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if you took all of the Bigfoot seminars and conferences

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in this country alone every year I'm sure the number

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would be in the hundreds of thousands of people who

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attend them, and so it's a significant community of people.

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Oh yeah, I mean it's it's not a thing where

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it can just be swept under the rug anymore. There's

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too many people out there that are like to investigate

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and you know, just have a good time investigating that.

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I'm one of those guys. I'll call up a law

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enforcement office and be like, hey, you guys, ever gotten

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anything weird. Sometimes you talk to two people at the

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office where they've actually had sightings and you can talk

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to them and sometimes, you know, you get laughed at it. It

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doesn't matter, you know, it does not matter. But you know,

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yours is an interesting story because it is the eyewitness

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account of this individual that pushed you over the edge.

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After that happened, did you find yourself then actually going

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out at any time into the woods and seeing Okay,

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I got to get out there myself and really see

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what's going on.

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Almost almost immediately. And I've started off as a blank slate,

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I mean one I didn't know anything too. I, like

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many people, I had some of my own thoughts about

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what Sasquatch is. How I behave. Most of that has

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been proven wrong over the years, but I determined that

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I was not going to I this is maybe a

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mistake to admit this, but early on I did not

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read very much about sasquatch written by other researchers because

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I wanted to get out in the woods and try

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myself to see what happened, and followed the evidence that

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came to me.

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Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

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The wherever it might lead without a pre kind of

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a predesigned direction, because you know, there's there's a lot

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of directions that people have gone in their theories about Sasquatch,

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the two main ones being the the Great Ape group

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and the Wu or paranormal group, I would say, and

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intimate variations within those of aliens, and you know, you

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name it, netheline from the Bible, you name it, people

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have some theory about it. And and the great thing

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is we're all amateurs. Some people may think they're experts,

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but they're not, because we're all amateurs. We're doing this

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trying to figure out what sasquatch is, how they behave,

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how they interact with us. And so I started off

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almost immediately getting out of them. Was that spent a

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great deal of time in the woods. I still do,

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but even more in those early days and started you know,

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you just start building kind of a journal of ideas

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about based on the experiences and the experiments that you're doing,

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about how they are and how they react and how

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they interact with us. And so we've certainly gone a

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certain direction in our research that's that's not the same

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as other researchers, which is fine. I'm of the opinion

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that whatever you're learning, great, share it, you know, talk

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about it. But there's no reason to go and the

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mean other researchers who may disagree with your conclusions, because

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there's a room for everyone. And I just see too much,

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too much of this ugly in fighting going on in

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public conferences that I really personally don't enjoy and don't appreciate.

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So I just choose not to engage in that.

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Yeah, I've gotten to the point where I will publicly

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say that, yeah, it is.

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It is ridiculous how either side.

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Really can treat the opposite side, and it pretty much

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it needs to stop on both sides.

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It's become just like our politics. Oh yeah, totally, that's

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what the big world has become totally.

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But I think it is. It is a it can

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it can definitely be be saved. It's not a thing

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where it's too far gone. There is still hope, definitely.

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But you know, when you found yourself going out into

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these areas, do you feel like you were fortunate enough

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to have any interactions of any kind or or anything

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when you're out there?

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Many more than I can count anymore. And the first,

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the first visual had was at a very popular tourist

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area about thirteen miles fourteen miles from this where I'm

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at now. I'm at the outpost right now, but it's

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a place called Wellington Lake, and it's a it's a

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man made lake, beautiful setting and right on the edge

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of what we know is Lost Creek Wilderness. So you know,

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miles and miles and miles of nothing behind the lake

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in that direction. But we've had over the years many

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many reports of visual sightings, of vocalizations of all kinds

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of things from that campsite, and so we had gone there.

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This is early on probably twenty thirteen or fourteen, and

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we were camped because it's a hot spot and I

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wanted to see what happened. And so other than a

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bear coming into our campsite that night, we didn't really

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have anything happened that I remember. So I got up

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early to go fishing and fly fishermen, so I was

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the only one of somebody else was out of their tent.

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I was about six six am, so I was fly

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fishing by myself, and because it's quiet, and I love

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to look around when i'm fishing, so I was doing

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that and I had just cast, made a cast, and

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I was looking around. I looked up above me, about

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probably two hundred yards above me, on the side of

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the mountain was a big crop and there was something

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standing up there looking down. I didn't get a sense

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that was looking at me, but I was looking down

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from up there. It was enormously tall, all one color,

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and so I looked behind me, kind of behind me

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and up and saw this and I immediately thought, that's

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a sasquatch, and I believe it was. And right at

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that moment, a fish grabbed my fly, as fate would

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have it, and I made the terrible mistake of taking

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my eyes off of the sasquatch to look at and

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the fish had already gotten away, and I turned and

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looked back, So maybe three seconds MAX took my eyes

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away from the sasquatch to look at the fly, looked

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back up, and the sasquatch was gone, literally had just disappeared.

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There was no time for that creature that large to

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be running away that I wouldn't have seen it, and

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so it just literally was gone. And I wish that

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I kept my eyes on it. I mean, there's I

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don't care how nice the fish is, No fish is

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worth losing the sight of the sasquatch that you have

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caught sight of. So all my other experiences have been

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at night and in the campsite, out for hikes, and

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probably I would be guessing here because I haven't, you know,

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taken time to go back through all the information I

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have in a lotdowns I don't even write it down anymore,

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but probably forty to fifty encounters with sasquatch, either from

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inside my tent or my hammock, or I'm not seeing anything,

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but I'm certainly hearing them interacting with them, or seeing

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their eye glow at night, which we've probably seen about

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fifteen times now something like that.

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So wow, Okay, that that is really interesting. So I'm hearing,

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you know, max of fifteen years back, having about forty

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or fifty encounters in some way and those are all

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over the board.

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Between yeah, in the last fifteen years.

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Yeah, So I want to I want to talk about

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your sighting for a little bit. And you you only

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saw it for a few seconds. It looks like or

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it sounds like, but yeah, was there anything that you

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remember the details of what you saw? Was it similar

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to you know, everyone thinks of the Patty film, right,

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was it similar to that or were you surprised at

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how maybe it's a little different.

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It was surprising in how large it was, and this

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this rocky out cropping was quite always above me. And

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I climbed up there after that time, and it's so steep,

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literally so steep. Getting to that location. You have to

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go up on your hands and knees. You cannot vertically

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walk up the slope. So I knew there was no

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tourists up there camping. That would be impossible. You couldn't

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get it back back up there. So and it was

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very early in the morning, but it was very tall.

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That's where I'm remember is how tall it was, and

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that it was all color, meaning it was not wearing

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clothing that I could discern. It was just dark brown

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the entire surface of the creature, and so it wasn't

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moving when I saw it. It was literally standing looking

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down and as I said, not looking at me necessarily,

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but looking from that perch down to the lake, and

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it was you know, who knows how long it was

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watching me until I happened to turn and look up.

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Probably quite a while, because that was the first time

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I looked in that direction while I was down at

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the lake, So it could have been there ever since

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I got to the lake. Who knows.

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You mentioned that this Wellington Lake area has a lot

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of It has a lot of encounters or sightings over

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the years. Are they being seen in similar like in

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the similar area where you saw yours, or are the

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things that are happening in this area a totally different

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person to person.

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Well, they're all in the same general area because the

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campsite is a very specific area. You can't just camp anywhere.

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You have to camp in this one area and so

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but it's there are campsites along the lake on the front,

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and then there's what they call their mountain campsites, which

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are the backside of the loop up up against this

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huge rock mountain we call the Castle, and it's almost always,

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in fact, probably every encounter with someone who is camped

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at the backside, not on the front side. So if

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you're by the water where everybody else is, you're not

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going to see much. But if you're back by the mountain,

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you you could very likely have an encounter. And so

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most of the all the visuals and the vocals were

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from that backside, going up the side of the mountain,

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and or a few from the campsite. There was one

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family that wrote me about an encounter they had in

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nineteen seventy eight when they were doing a family having

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a family reunion at this lake. In that it was grandparents, parents, kids, grandkids,

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you know, all the generations were there and they there

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was a fast watch, at least one or more that

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came through that night interacted with every campsite, and the

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grandparents were sleeping in a trailer patched to the to

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the hitch of their truck, and they were asleep and

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something came and rocked their camper so hard it bent

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the hitch to the side, which I've never heard of

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before or since. I mean, they this person that wrote

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this story said they were hanging onto the Bedford dear

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life to keep from being thrown out of the bence.

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And they had a huge wooden canoe that took four

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men to carry from the stand that they put it

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on down to the water or to carry it back.

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And that canoe was picked up and tossed about thirty

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feet and crashed to the ground, and everyone in the

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camp heard it. It was a huge noise. So all

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that happened one night. But some of those campsites were

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spread out, maybe lower down towards the lake. But seventy eight,

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I doubt there were nearly as many people camping as

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there are now. It was fairly new resort area at

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that time.

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Absolutely, those are some wild interactions. Is that something that

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you find yourself hearing a lot out there in this

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area Colorado that you know there's just some wild sasquatch encounters,

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or is it kind of across the board as well?

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It's across the board. I mean, we've certainly heard some

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wild ones and had some wild ones. But I think

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the I used to physically run the store more than

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I do now. I'm usually out taking people out, many

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of whom are have never been out doing anything like that,

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but occasionally so we'll have stories from those times. And

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I do have the occasional guests who literally freaks out

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in the night from something that happen. But but yeah, I

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mean we have across the board.

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Big for society who will be right back after these messages.

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We have a map in the museum. It's about a

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five foot by four foot map of Colorado where we

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plot with pins people's encounters based on whether it was

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a visual encounter, vocal tracks that they found, if they

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had something thrown at them when they're out in the woods.

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So we had different color for each thing, and so

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on the map. Today, I think we've got I should

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go count. It's been a while. We probably have four

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hundred pins on that map, maybe more of all types,

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but visuals probably sixty, I would say, just from people's

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encounters in Colorado, and I hear stories from all over

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the country. I don't just hear stories about Colorado. But

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if someone comes in tells me Colorado's story and convinces

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me that they're genuine, then I'll take them back and

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given them pin and ask them to put the pin

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wherever this incident happened. So this map is full of

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pins today.

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So when you are.

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Doing the you mentioned earlier, there's like an adventure type

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side thing that you're doing as well. Is that also

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in taking people out to have a bigfoot take them

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the big areas? Okay, okay, that's cool, that's cool, it's cool.

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Has there been a time when you've gone out where

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I mean, it sounds like people are having some really

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intense things happen, But can you remember a time where

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you're out there and things just got incredibly intense and

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you're like, it might be time to head back to

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the outpost or.

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We've never left the camp site We've had because I'm

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convinced now after all these years, that they don't have

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an intention of harming us. If they did, I couldn't

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take people out. There's too much liability. Sure, I can't

447
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afford to be sued as somebody goes missing or gets attacked,

448
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:56.799
and in fifteen years has never happened, nor has it

449
00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:59.839
happened to any other researcher I know who take people out.

450
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:08.359
So you know, just from the the the bulk of

451
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:17.200
the numbers of encounters people have had who were thinking

452
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:19.440
out or have gone out with other researchers or who

453
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:24.240
go out on their own. If their intent was to

454
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:29.799
harm us, there would be hundreds of stories and people

455
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.160
will be hunting them down. It just doesn't happen. So

456
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.440
once I once I realized that there was no reason

457
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.160
to leave. Now doesn't mean people I take out don't

458
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:45.000
want to leave, but that option isn't available for them.

459
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.640
And I explained all this during our orientation time that

460
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.000
when we're out there, we're out there, particularly when we're

461
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:56.359
on horseback. There's no leaving in the middle of the night.

462
00:33:56.440 --> 00:34:01.799
That's suicide. So and even though I explain all this

463
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.720
to people, tell them, you know, this is what could

464
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.159
likely happen. This is probably what's going to happen. When

465
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:13.360
it happens, all bets are off. None of us know

466
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.599
how we're going to react to any experience until it

467
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.559
actually happens to us, and so I try to let

468
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:28.320
people as best I can. It's it's not it's not

469
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:32.719
a positive thing for a group when someone is freaking out.

470
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:38.920
It's not a good thing from the perspective of encounters

471
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.599
with sasquatch, because Sasquatch, again, in my experience, they will

472
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:47.559
back off if they realize that their presence is causing

473
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:51.559
that much to stress, they'll back away, which means nobody

474
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:57.679
gets an encounter after that. And but yeah, we've had

475
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:04.519
me think of some example. I mean around the tent,

476
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:13.159
pushing on the tents. That's pretty common. Untying the horses

477
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.880
and letting them off in the middle of the night,

478
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.079
one horse at a time, and I have to get

479
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.599
up and I have to go get the horse, bring

480
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.440
them back, time, back up. And the way we tie

481
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:28.119
these horses up, they cannot get off the line. They can't.

482
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:33.239
They just can't. I mean the not we use titans

483
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.000
as you pull it against it. And yet here's this

484
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:41.280
horse untied off, grazing by itself. And I'll go bring

485
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.760
the horse back, tied up, go back to bed, wake up.

486
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:48.239
An hour later, there's a different horse that's completely naked.

487
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:51.480
Its bridle is still hanging on the line, and the

488
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:55.639
horse is out racing because they came and let it off.

489
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:57.480
And I think the reason they do that is they

490
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:01.159
just there's probably juveniles and they're just messing with me.

491
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.400
See how long it takes me to get up and

492
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:08.719
go until I say out loud, okay, it's been finding out.

493
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:10.760
This is all funny. But I need to get some

494
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:16.920
sleep and then everything stops every time. So uh, you know,

495
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:19.119
I don't begrudge them wanting to have some fun and

496
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.639
they don't seem to heart hurt the horses at all.

497
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:27.280
But that kind of mischievous activity happens in camp where

498
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:33.000
they'll take things or rearrange things in the campsite so

499
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.719
that you when you wake up, you see and it's

500
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.800
usually things that they have figured out that we will notice,

501
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:44.159
and so because they're watching this all the time. So yeah,

502
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:50.639
we've had We've had lots of encounters where people wake

503
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:55.079
up sometimes if we're sleeping. Sometimes we'll just sleep under

504
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:58.320
the stars on the tarp and sleeping bags, so when

505
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.360
you wake up, if something there, you're going to see it.

506
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:07.280
I mean, it's unlike a tent where you can hear things,

507
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:11.519
but you're not going to see much outside. And we've

508
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:15.519
had people wake up and have sasquatch basically standing over

509
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:19.360
them that leaves as soon as they realizes they're awake.

510
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:27.039
So lots of encounters. I'm trying to think of anything

511
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:33.880
more dramatic. I mean, people do freak out when when

512
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:36.360
something is touching their tents from the outside or when

513
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:41.199
they can hear actually hear the footsteps walking around the tent,

514
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.440
bipedal footsteps. And when it's three or four in the

515
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.639
morning and you're camping, you would have to be an

516
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:53.599
absolute idiot as a person to go into somebody else's

517
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:58.760
campsite and walk around in the dark. You're going to

518
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.920
get shot. That's what's going to happen. And so people

519
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.440
people just don't go wandering on campsie in the night

520
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:11.159
unless they're insane. And so we're very confident at night

521
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:16.079
when something is going on outside our tents, it's not people.

522
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:20.480
It's squatch that come in and they very often choose

523
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.960
to come in about two or three in the morning

524
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.840
when any sane person's in their tent asleep.

525
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:33.920
That's that's so interesting. And you know, until you've been

526
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:37.599
in that situation, I don't think you can really understand

527
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:41.719
because I mean I've been in that situation in Iowa.

528
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:45.480
I've had I've been in a tent. I've had something

529
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.239
walk around my tent in I mean it was like

530
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.519
two or three in the morning, something was out there,

531
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:57.360
and yeah, I mean, you can't freak out, but I

532
00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.320
could see how it's easy to get there.

533
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.800
Yeah, it is easy. And I certainly understand it, but

534
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:07.599
I really try to keep that from happening because they're

535
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.480
they're going to miss everything that happens after that.

536
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:15.960
Well that's that's interesting then, So what kind of you know,

537
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:20.679
let's say we're trying to keep people, you know, level headed, calm,

538
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:24.320
what are the things that you don't want them to miss?

539
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.840
Then? Well, I don't want them to miss. You have

540
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.599
to be quiet. I mean you you have to be awake,

541
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:34.920
and you have to be quiet. And so you will

542
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:39.960
hear them walking up many many times. I mean there

543
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:43.039
are times when they just seem to appear and you

544
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.719
don't hear the approach. You'll hear them talking to each other,

545
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.519
just like we're talking now. It's and when we're in

546
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:56.119
a camp with three or four tenths and sess Clutch

547
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.519
come into the camp and are talking to each other,

548
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.960
everyone around assumes it's somebody in one of the other

549
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:07.280
tents talking, you know, in low tones with their tent

550
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:12.320
met or whoever. That's almost never the case. It's sasquatch

551
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.559
walking around talking to each other. But it sounds like

552
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:21.599
people talking completely. We just don't understand the words, so

553
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:27.119
they'll miss the talking, they'll miss them interacting through the tent.

554
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:34.840
They'll miss occasionally a smell that's very rare in my experience.

555
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:41.079
So and it's just special to be at the plate,

556
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:45.800
to be out in the woods, to have been told

557
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:49.679
the sasquatch is real. Though a lot of people still

558
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:55.400
come kind of thinking, I'm not sure about this, and

559
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:59.480
I get that again, I have the benefit of experience.

560
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:04.400
They don't, and so they'll come wanting to have an experience,

561
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:09.199
and when it actually happens, either it freaks them out

562
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:15.960
so badly that they're still shaken weeks later or months later,

563
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:20.199
and sometimes it creates PTSD kind of trauma, and people

564
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.960
not because that was the intent of the sasquatch to

565
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.599
scare the person to death, but it was that person's

566
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:30.960
reaction to what they were experiencing that caused that PTSD.

567
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:37.039
And so I try to be as explicit as I can,

568
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:41.119
as detail as I can, and telling them what may happen,

569
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:46.519
and if they need encouragement or whatever, they can always

570
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:50.400
call out in the night and we'll all answer verbally.

571
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:56.199
But they've got to be they've got to be out

572
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:57.920
in the woods, they've got to be in a tent,

573
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.079
being in a camper, doesn't you work because you're not

574
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:04.760
going to hear anything. You're you got solid walls between

575
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.519
you and nature. But in a tent, it's a whole

576
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:11.079
different ballgame. And so I explain to people this is

577
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:13.880
the only way to do this for you to have

578
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.880
the kind of encounter they at least you say you

579
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.519
want to have. I think a lot of them in

580
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.000
the midst of it decide I don't want to have this.

581
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:27.840
I'm not enjoying this. I'm frightened. You know. At that

582
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:32.599
point they just be quiet then and just waiting and

583
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:35.480
wait them out and they'll leave eventually.

584
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:37.599
Absolutely.

585
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.840
It's I think a good analogy that I can think

586
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.480
of is you've pretty much gone on a roller coaster

587
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:48.239
and at that point when they're there, you're not getting

588
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:51.719
off until you get back to you know, the end

589
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.159
of the You get to the end of the ride.

590
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.559
And when you get to the top of the highest

591
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:00.159
part of the roller coaster and there's this brief pallus

592
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:03.400
and you're thinking, no, no, no, no, don't no too late.

593
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.960
You know you're you're in it, absolutely so just enjoy

594
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:10.360
the ride at that point, or scream your way all

595
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:12.599
the way to the end. But I don't want them

596
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.880
to scream because that only scares the other campers, and

597
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:20.719
usually tassbusch leaves people do occasionally scream.

598
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:22.679
Exactly.

599
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.119
That scares me more than past quatch.

600
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:26.719
How far are you guys out there when you're you're

601
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:30.480
horse camping to these areas.

602
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:44.159
Uh, We're we're probably twenty thirty miles from the nearest town, Wow.

603
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:50.480
And and we'll we'll trailer the horses to a certain

604
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.880
point where we typically will meet the guests and then

605
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.840
we'll ride together from there. We're going to do that

606
00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:00.239
this summer, although this summer we've opted to go only

607
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:08.920
with extreme what we're calling extreme horseback trips, where it's

608
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:12.480
we're going to have a minimal gear, we're going to

609
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.320
be eating freeze dried food and sleeping on the ground

610
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:18.880
in order to get back as far as we can

611
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:21.280
get and to get back as far as we can get.

612
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:24.480
We don't want to be bringing ten pack horses. We'll

613
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:31.760
have one horse, maybe two, and and we may do

614
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.760
a backpack trip like this as well, with everyone carrying

615
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.400
their own backpack, but the horse carrying the main weight

616
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:42.039
that they would have had in their backpacks. But yeah,

617
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.320
it's it's uh, we're probably so this summer we're going

618
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:48.760
to try some new trails and get back as far

619
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:52.199
as we can get. But it can only be experienced

620
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:58.480
riders because we're crossing creeks and steep inclines up and down,

621
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.760
and I can't be trying to teach someone to ride

622
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.599
in the midst of that kind of terrain. So, and

623
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:08.840
we don't have anyone signed up yet. I hope we

624
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:14.440
will get some, but we we're back there and we're

625
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:19.559
going to be Probably the day we go out, it'll

626
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:23.559
probably be h three or four hour ride to get

627
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:29.360
to where we're going to camp in difficult terrain. But

628
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:35.039
once we're out there, you know, anything can happen.

629
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.159
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

630
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:57.679
I mean, that's the exciting part is we're usually back

631
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.639
far enough that we're not dealing with sasquatch to deal

632
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:06.519
with people all the time. These are locations where they

633
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.880
probably don't see people very much, and therefore it might

634
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.559
be all the more curious about who we are and

635
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:16.440
why we're there, and you know, what are your intentions,

636
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:17.000
et cetera.

637
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:23.199
Yeah, absolutely, it could make for some really interesting things,

638
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:28.400
I think. But you'd mentioned earlier that you started this

639
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:33.639
out with a certain viewpoint of what sasquatches and then

640
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:38.719
you actually proved yourself wrong as you went along correct.

641
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:42.280
Do you mind sharing a little bit about about what

642
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.400
your current thoughts are as to what we may.

643
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:51.280
Be at all with I started off where most researchers

644
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:55.880
start off, thinking this is an undiscovered great ape. Therefore

645
00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:01.159
they're going to behave like apes, and we can find them.

646
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:07.880
They're just very good at hiding. It didn't take me

647
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:11.800
real long, probably a year, not even for that idea

648
00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:15.079
to be thrown out the window, because they don't behave

649
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.719
like an ape. Every other great ape in the world

650
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:20.440
we have in captivity and have had for one hundred

651
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:25.599
years and so, and we're not going to Congo and

652
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:30.800
Southeast Asia to find great apes. They're on our doorstep,

653
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.760
they're in our backyard, and yet we cannot capture them

654
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:39.800
or kill them. So it didn't take long for me

655
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.119
to come to my own conclusion these are not apes.

656
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:51.559
There's something else. And since that time, both through behavioral

657
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:58.840
evidence and through some DNA evidence, I'm convinced in my mind,

658
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:02.559
beyond shadow of doubts, that they are people, and they

659
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:07.400
are different people than we are. But I'll use this

660
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:13.039
example often when I'm speaking. If I take a seven

661
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:16.440
foot Scandinavian man and put them next to a pygmy

662
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:20.320
from Congo and Central Africa, you would think they were

663
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:24.320
from different planets. They don't even look like the same species.

664
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:29.760
And yet we're all Homo sapiens, and I think Sasquats

665
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:35.559
are people. They're just very different people to us. But

666
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:39.639
I think their behavior, everything about their behavior supports that

667
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:45.239
theory in my opinion, so and everything that I've discovered

668
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:52.559
about them moves me further away from any kind of

669
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:58.119
an ape theory model. They just do not demonstrate that

670
00:48:58.239 --> 00:48:58.920
in any way.

671
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:04.239
That's that's extremely interesting, is you know, you think about

672
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.599
if you were to put us into an environment where

673
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:09.480
you just put us out in the woods for like

674
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:15.039
twenty thirty years, I mean you're going to potentially eventually

675
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:19.920
maybe revert to a you know, semi primitive state as well.

676
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:24.960
Sure, sure, yeah, it's a feral feral, yeah.

677
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:31.679
Exactly if we survive. See, that's the string is we

678
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:35.320
we have to build homes and where many layers of

679
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.000
clothing or will die in the woods. That's not the

680
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:42.280
case for Sasquatchy they don't need homes. They're perfectly adapted

681
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.239
to where they live, to the temperatures of their environment,

682
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:56.119
so they they're fine. We we equate, we equate modernity

683
00:49:56.320 --> 00:50:00.440
with intelligence. There's lots of kinds of intelligence, and in

684
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.440
my mind Sasquatch are just as intelligent as we are.

685
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:08.679
It's but it's an intelligence that serves them in their environment.

686
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:12.440
They're not building homes because they don't need to build homes.

687
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:16.719
They live perfectly at ease where they are. We're the

688
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:21.039
ones that have to build things to survive with the

689
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.519
elements that they don't.

690
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:31.400
So then, knowing that, do you have certain goals when

691
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:33.960
you are going out, like how are how are you

692
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:39.320
trying to interact with with Sasquatch when you're out there,

693
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:43.400
knowing that you know you're you're viewing them in that way.

694
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:51.480
Well, I know from experience that they don't trust us

695
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:56.920
very much. I wouldn't either, and so they they have

696
00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.840
to be their trust has to begin for them to

697
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:03.880
interact with us in any way other than in an

698
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:10.159
aggressive way to hopefully get us to leave from an area.

699
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:15.079
And that's rare, but trust me, if they really want

700
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:18.199
us out, they'll find a way to communicate that that

701
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:22.719
is crystal clear, and very few people would be able

702
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:29.280
to remain in the area because of the the displays

703
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.800
that they will do to convince us to move on.

704
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.039
But most of the time that's not the case. Most

705
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:38.480
of the time they're very curious about why we're in

706
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:42.880
the woods. Now, I again vertic that I am. I

707
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:48.079
really believe they understand what our intentions are. They have

708
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:52.440
some ability to read our intent whether we're out there

709
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:56.519
to harm them or not. And I always lead my

710
00:51:56.599 --> 00:52:06.280
guests in short kind of meditative process too, to open

711
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:12.320
our hearts and minds to them as people, and to

712
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.760
be willing to experience things that we're not used to.

713
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:22.440
But don't reject this outright, because all that thing may

714
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.039
be is something. It's that. And I get this all

715
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:29.239
the time. I'll have other researchers who who are more

716
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:35.920
of the great ape theory. Other researchers will say, you

717
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.400
need to stick to science. You're you're you are harming

718
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:43.920
the cause by talking about all these wu paranormal things.

719
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:48.159
And my response is, one, this is what I'm experiencing.

720
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.880
I'm not looking for it. This is what's coming to me. Two,

721
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:59.519
what is confusing or we call wu today is tomorrow's

722
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:05.079
science principle. Everything that we believe about science today was

723
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:09.280
at one time believed to be nonsense, and so we

724
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:14.079
it's it's everything is science. What they can do is

725
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.679
just science that we do not yet understand or have

726
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.400
the technology to understand. And maybe one day we will

727
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:23.840
and we'll look back and laugh at how we thought

728
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:29.679
they were such, you know, unintelligent brute creatures, when in

729
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:34.400
fact they're more intelligent than we are. Yeah, so long

730
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:35.639
answer to your question, but.

731
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:41.719
I think that's a great answer though, and it's probably

732
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:46.519
very helpful to take that time to lead people or

733
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:49.960
to empower them with you know, that form of meditation,

734
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:53.280
because at the very least you're giving them a way

735
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:55.880
to kind of be able to chill out a little

736
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:56.719
bit as well.

737
00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:59.559
If things get yeah, relaxed.

738
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:04.320
Yeah, let your guard down a little bit. Trust the

739
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.360
people who are with you that you know, when we

740
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.599
say don't worry, they're not going to attack you, that

741
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:15.559
they're not. And so if people can relax, and if

742
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:19.440
they can open their minds, and I'll even say, talk

743
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.039
to them in your mind as we're walking, talk to

744
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:24.199
them and let them know that you would love to

745
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:28.320
interact with them if they're around, and or say it

746
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:31.480
out loud. It doesn't matter. I'm never bothered by people,

747
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:36.719
you know, on the trail talking or whispering not to me,

748
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:42.559
but to sasquatch because I think sessquatch, I believe they

749
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:48.679
hear those things and they they act accordingly. So if

750
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:51.400
we're out in the woods walking and thinking to ourselves,

751
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:54.159
go way, go way, go way, go way, we're probably

752
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:55.639
never going to have an encounter.

753
00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:00.920
True, Or I'm freaking out and that's all you're thinking, Well, I'm.

754
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:04.159
Freaking out, carify it and can can we get out

755
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:05.360
of here? Now? You know.

756
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:10.079
Something I find interesting when I talk to witnesses is

757
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:14.920
they'll share how they they do, you know, talk out

758
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.800
loud to sasquatch and then there's like an immediate response,

759
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.280
And I find that fascinating. Is that anything that has

760
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.960
ever been experienced in any of your outings?

761
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:34.960
Yeah, yeah, we've. We've Sometimes if we go out, I'll

762
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:38.639
try to start off by having a time of quiet,

763
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.800
you know, eyes closed, just kind of in a meditative

764
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.239
state for a few minutes. But if I forget to

765
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:50.000
do that when we're out, we'll stop at we'll stop

766
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:53.639
at many points during a typical hike or camping trip

767
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:59.239
and just be quiet and listen, and then we may

768
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:04.079
I may if someone has a particular gift with doing

769
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:06.519
bigfoot calls or whatever, I may say, hey, can you

770
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:12.760
give a shout or can you do your best job

771
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:18.400
of imitating a sasquatch call or something, which is kind

772
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.840
of fun for people anyway to see. And people are

773
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.679
always embarrassed the first time they try them, like, oh,

774
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:28.320
I can't do that. I'm like, just try. That doesn't matter.

775
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:33.719
They're not out there judging you. And how often we'll

776
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:38.679
get a response back, either verbally or vocally, or in

777
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:42.639
a tree snap or a knock or something that indicates

778
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:46.920
that somebody was listening when they did that. And so

779
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:51.719
but I'll often talk to them out loud, you know, hey,

780
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.159
we'd love to see you, would love to know you're around.

781
00:56:57.079 --> 00:57:00.480
And this is many hours into the hike. And then suddenly,

782
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:05.320
right after saying that, eye glow starts to shine in

783
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.840
the bushes and trees as though they were waiting for

784
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:11.719
that invitation. I don't know if they were or not.

785
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.599
I just know when we interact with them like that,

786
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:21.360
as you said, very often they will respond very soon.

787
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:28.960
After that, it's it's so man, it just blows me

788
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:33.320
away every time I hear it, and it's just it

789
00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:36.199
never it never gets old, especially you know when it's

790
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:39.159
actually a k are you out there or something like that,

791
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:43.239
and it's just like bam, tree snap or tree knock. Yeah, yeah,

792
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:46.320
this is this is some wild How could.

793
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:48.639
You not how could you think that was anything but

794
00:57:48.760 --> 00:57:51.679
an answer? I mean, timing is nothing.

795
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:57.159
Else exactly now when you're out there.

796
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.639
Another thing that is really brought up in a lot

797
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:06.679
of reports, and I'm curious how it's viewed from your side.

798
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:10.840
Do you guys ever experience anything that could be considered

799
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:15.480
infrasound or how do you take reports like that?

800
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:23.639
The only ways we can determine if infrason has been

801
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:28.559
used is if someone gets zapped in the group, So

802
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:37.840
either gets overwhelmed with terror or dread one person versus

803
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:41.960
everyone else in the group is feeling comfortable and fine,

804
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:46.880
and one person irrationally it's like, ah, we have to leave,

805
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:49.840
we have to leave now, you know whatever. Or they

806
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:56.400
get nauseous, or they may get an intense migraine headache

807
00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:01.880
that just comes on suddenly. So it's usually when somebody

808
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:05.119
is getting affected. Now, I've never had that happen. I'm

809
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.000
not sure I want it to happen, just so I

810
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:11.320
can say I've had it happen either. So it's it's

811
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:16.880
It can be a very frightening traumatic experience to be

812
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:21.480
the target of a zapping or sizzling, depending on what

813
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.360
language you want to use. And we don't know exactly

814
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:27.639
how they do it. We believe that infrasound plays a

815
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:31.920
part in it. I mean, our government right now is

816
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:36.280
in the past, has experimented with infra sound as a weapon,

817
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:41.800
absolutely a battlefield weapon. So does info sound have an

818
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.079
effect on us one hundred percent? The question is are

819
00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:47.719
they doing this? Elephants use it, Tigers use it. So

820
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:53.000
it's certainly easily within the realm of possibility for sasquatch

821
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:57.480
to have the ability to use that. And I have

822
00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:03.840
friends who have more advanced technology than I do, who

823
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:09.159
have told me that they've done call blasting and they

824
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:13.119
have equipment that can detect infrasound that when they get

825
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:16.599
a call back, they know if there was infrasound in

826
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:17.519
that call or not.

827
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:27.400
I myself have talked to individuals. Yeah, I know exactly

828
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:32.119
what you're talking about. And it's incredible. I mean to

829
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:35.360
think that some man even someday, maybe we'll have a

830
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.719
little device that we can carry around with it and

831
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:41.280
if infrasound is detected it that way, it'll like, you know,

832
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:43.559
flash or make a beep or something.

833
01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:45.039
That'd be pretty cool.

834
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:50.320
But well, people use something akin to that when they

835
01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:56.760
use a device to detect electromagnetic energy, because many times

836
01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:01.320
when a sasquatch is in the area, they they somehow

837
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:13.840
emit electromagnetic waves that will cause an electronic device to demonstrate,

838
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:17.000
you know, either it goes up the indicating you know,

839
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:21.559
there's there's a source of electromagnetic energy nearby, which is

840
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:26.039
one indicator that they're around. Not the only indicator, but

841
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:30.320
that's certainly one indicator that is, like you're saying, if

842
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:36.679
we could detect the infrasound, we can apparently detect some

843
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:38.360
of their energy as well.

844
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:44.920
Besides those indicators are let's say, you know, we're in

845
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:48.559
a group where we're going out in the woods on

846
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:53.760
one of these outings. What is the number one thing

847
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:58.679
where if it happens, then you're like, okay, we definitely

848
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:01.320
are in a situation where there's a sasquatch.

849
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:04.440
Pretty close to us, a.

850
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:11.800
Vocal vocalization of some kind a tree snap or break

851
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:19.280
or knock near nearby in an otherwise silent woods in

852
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:24.719
the woods here in Colorado are the most early quiet

853
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:28.760
woods I've ever been in my life. And there's no crickets,

854
01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:32.559
there's no cuquidos, there's no bugs, period, it's nothing. It's

855
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:38.960
completely silent. So when you hear something, you know, I

856
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:44.199
mean everybody hears it. So no, I can't say that. Actually,

857
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:47.760
I've been with groups when half of us heard in

858
01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:52.960
a huge crash something noise up ahead of us on

859
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:56.480
the trail, and half the group heard nothing. Wondered what

860
01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:59.880
we were reacting to when they because they heard nothing.

861
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:05.079
So it's this bizarre How do you explain that? I mean,

862
01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:13.280
it's just totally bizarre that those who heard it would say, oh,

863
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:15.400
come on, surely you heard that. I mean, it was

864
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:19.599
so loud, and the others hear nothing. I mean for them,

865
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.480
they're just walking in silence on the trail like they

866
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:26.199
have been. So it's bizarre. It's just these bizarre kind

867
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:30.599
of paranormal things that happened that I had no explanation

868
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:33.239
for it. But it happens enough that I'm like, okay,

869
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:36.760
here we go, you know, but usually we hear something

870
01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:43.480
smell almost never. I've probably only on two occasions, and

871
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:47.159
I'm not even sure on those two occasions smelled anything

872
01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:51.360
that I would have thought was a sasquatch. Whereas people

873
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:56.199
seem to think by stories they hear that every time

874
01:03:56.239 --> 01:04:00.559
sassquatches around, you're going to smell this rank smell and

875
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:03.480
and then you're going to see sasco. Yeah you might,

876
01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:07.719
but that's never been my case. I've only smelled on

877
01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:13.239
two occasions something that I really wondered, what is that

878
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:17.880
that's rank? And it wasn't the smell of decay. I

879
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:21.679
know that smell. But but most of the time, even

880
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:24.079
when they're right up around, right up next to my tent,

881
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:28.920
I smell nothing. And so maybe it's something they turn

882
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.400
on and off. But I know if I was out

883
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:37.000
with a group and we all smelled in my experience,

884
01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:42.280
when when they emit an odor like they are known for,

885
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:47.400
whether these pheromones, I'm not sure, but it seems to

886
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:50.199
be something they can turn on and turn off when

887
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:54.280
they want to. But it's a smell that is alarming.

888
01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:57.559
It causes people to stop in their tracks. And say

889
01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:01.079
what is that. It's not just uh oh, that smells

890
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:04.360
like excrement or something. We all know that smell. This

891
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:09.199
is a smell that creates in the person alarm, a

892
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:13.119
sense of alarm, which is probably why they would use

893
01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:16.119
that smell. If they are using it, is because again

894
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.360
they want us to move out of the area for

895
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:24.239
whatever reason. We've had things thrown at us as well.

896
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:27.920
Oh man, I didn't even think of bringing that up. Okay,

897
01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:29.320
oh wow.

898
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:35.199
That that's a dead ringer for there. They're around and

899
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:39.000
they haven't hit us. And thankfully, if they the times

900
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.679
that they've thrown things, if they hit us, it would

901
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.320
have killed us. I mean it would have. It was

902
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:47.000
a big enough rocks thrown hard enough that it would

903
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:50.880
have brained me and in one second and so but

904
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:56.239
they never hit us. So, but that's very frightening. And

905
01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:00.320
it's again when you're walking in a dead quiet would

906
01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:05.679
and then behind you, this baseball sized rock smacks a

907
01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:13.159
tree with great force. It's it's extremely loud, so it

908
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:16.320
makes everybody jump. So yeah, that's that would be one

909
01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:20.880
more item that would tell me, well, okay, unless there's

910
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:23.440
some humans been sitting out there for hours hoping somebody

911
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.840
walks by in the middle of the night, nothing else

912
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:29.320
can throw except us.

913
01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:31.599
In Sasquatch, So this happens at night too.

914
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:32.800
That's even worse.

915
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:36.320
At night, usually at night, in fact, because they can

916
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:40.039
approach us much closer at night than the daytime. I faced.

917
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:44.199
I've had things thrown in the daytime, but wherever they

918
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:47.440
were when they threw it, they were not within visual range.

919
01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:49.960
At night, they can be right up on you and

920
01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:52.199
throw something, and a lot of times it's just playful.

921
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They're just tossing stuff in your direction. Where you hear,

922
01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:58.119
you know, a rock land in front of you on

923
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:03.320
the trail and bounce and you think, okay, that's bizarre,

924
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:07.639
where did that come from? So it's more often playful

925
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:12.159
than done with an intent to frighten us.

926
01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:19.800
You've got some wild stuff going on in Colorado, for sure,

927
01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:22.719
in the Bailey area. But it's cool that you're able

928
01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:26.920
to make these, uh, these connections through these outings that

929
01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.840
you're you're doing. Jim, I just want to say thank

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01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:33.239
you for being on the show today, and do you

931
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:37.519
mind spending a few minutes reminding viewers how they can

932
01:07:37.639 --> 01:07:40.000
keep keep up to date with what you're doing. How

933
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:42.400
if they want to contact you, or maybe even if

934
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:44.679
they want to take part in these outings that you've

935
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:45.519
been talking about.

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01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:51.000
So our website is Sasquatch Outpost dot com. We have

937
01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:54.159
a full online store on that site where you can

938
01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:57.079
buy most of what we sell in our brick and

939
01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:02.519
mortar store. And there's there's tabs on the top of

940
01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:05.599
the page to some of the research that I put

941
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:10.800
in there, as well as to the outings which is

942
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:15.480
rabbit Hole Adventures. You can go straight to the rabbit

943
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:24.479
Hole website by typing rabbit Hole Adventures all together dot co,

944
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:28.560
not dot com, but dot co, and that will take

945
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:32.159
you where the trips are listed and you can see

946
01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:34.840
if there's any room left on a given trip that

947
01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:38.840
you're interested in, and you can book it on that site.

948
01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:43.119
So seth got Outpost dot com and rabbit Hooleadventures dot co.

949
01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:48.439
And then we're located in Bailey, Colorado at one forty

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01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:56.239
nine Main Street. Really tiny town. Daily but you really

951
01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:59.880
can't miss the outposts. And if you miss the store,

952
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:01.880
does that ask anybody in town. They all know where

953
01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:02.239
we are.

954
01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:09.239
Fantastic, Well, we'll definitely keep in touch with you and

955
01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:12.560
see how things are going into the future. But thanks

956
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:14.319
for coming on the show.

957
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:16.720
Jim, I appreciate it. Bye bye.

958
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:19.159
Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank

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you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

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the north part.

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If you get what I mean, I'll see you back

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