Squatchin' Gear Chat with Mike Anne, Tactical Bigfoot Research

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I've taken far too much of your time

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so far, so let's get on
with the show, all right, Big

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Society. We've got the privilege of
talking to an old friend tonight, mister

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Mike and from tactical Bigfoot Research.
How's it going, Mike? Good brother?

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How you doing, dude, I'm
so I'm doing. It's so good.

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It's a great Thursday night out in
Iowa and we are just burning down.

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I don't know if it's like that
out in New York, but we're

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raining tonight, so not too bad
here. But I you know, I

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pulled up the map because we got
a bunch of friends up in Michigan for

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the big parafest up there, and
I'm like, yeah, I'm happy I'm

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not in the Midwest or you know, up the Upper Penisula because I'm watching

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those storms and I'm like, no, thanks, guys, keep with my

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rain. It's it's it's a it's
a rough one out here, but thankfully

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Friday night, the heat's gonna break. But dude, I'm so excited to

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have you on because, like back
in the clubhouse days, a group of

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us we used to chat quite a
bit and I al was like, man,

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i gotta get Mike on the podcast. And we've been trying and try

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and try, and finally it worked
out. We had a great chat at

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monster Fest last year and that was
fun. We had a we had a

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supper together that was that was good
stuff. But I'm glad to have you

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on here. Mike. Let's start
start with so, how did you get

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into the whole Bigfoot game? How
did the name tactical Bigfoot Research come about?

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I haven't heard that story, I
think, so it's it's weird.

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Actually, I were a couple of
jokers and one of the guys always said

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that he was related to Bigfoot,
and I was home sick and got on

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the internet and started gooling big Foot
sightings in my local area because I was

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like, they, I'm gonna find
something, and we're gonna just you know,

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like the meme, gonna send it
to your you know, your friends

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and stuff like that. Well,
when I started doing the research, I

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found a sighting less than five miles
from the house that was in the local

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newspaper and pretty contempt temporations to that, I mean within a few years,

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and factor's a local paranormal group getting
ready to a whole show on it.

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And it was like, I can't
believe this is down the street for me.

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So I get on the text message, I send a link to everybody

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to you know, a bunch of
our friends, our small little group of

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fishing and honey guys, and they're
like, yep, he's got friends,

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he's got family. And then I
started getting side pings from some of the

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folks that yeah, we've got guys
working for us looking in this particular area

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in this park, and we've got
other guys looking at this. And then

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I got a buddy from college,
It's like, wow, there's a state

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agency that releases one big Foot and
one mountain lion, one big Foot and

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one timberwolf together, just you know, a haha kind of thing. Well,

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that got me thinking, I'm full
of useless information. When it gets

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locked up here, it's up here, I can see names and faces,

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and you know, I won't forget
a name and I don't forget to face.

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Sometimes I can't put them together at
the same time. But useless stuff.

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But I had been talking to an
individual in law enforcement that worked for

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an agency, and I was asking
him, what do you know about the

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mountain lions? And he says,
wow, I really don't believe in the

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mountain lion thing coming through New York. And that's where I'm at, and

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he goes, But when I was
working in the Chautauqua County area, we

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took a lot of crazy stuff related
to big Foot, and you go on

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look at the BFR thing and you
can you can kind of see one of

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those sightings. Well that started me
on a deep dive. So I'm home

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for like I said, some surgery. I start doing some searches. I

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come across to the Seth breed Love's
Small Town Monsters, The Beast of Whitehall,

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which had some law enforcement stuff in
contacts. And that's my field is

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I work in law enforcement. And
I had a background in archaeology and the

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athropology when I went to college.
So I started doing some more deep diving.

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So now I see this and I'm
like, all right, I gotta

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see what else is going on.
So I start googling the stuff in Chautauqua

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County, more stuff in New York. I start coming across the old Monster

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Fast stuff, which I probably caught
here and there. You know, like

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most folks, I saw the Leonard
Nimois stuff, the Answer stuff as a

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kid, but I really wasn't my
thing. But I find this stuff down

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in Chautaqua County and there's a festival
down there, and I find a kid

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down there, Ryan reading, and
I start watching his channel and I'm like,

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take my niece and nephew. I'm
still out of work. I can't

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really do anything. Let's go down
and see what's going on. Well,

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I end up meeting Ryan and he
introduces me to Steve Calls and you've met

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Steve, the Squats detective. And
we're out shooting in a you know,

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the breeze out front and talking to
Steve, tell me a little bit more

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about this, and you know,
his background, my background. And Steve

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sends me a friend's request later that
day Facebook and he offers, Hey,

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if you're up in the Capitol region, New York, come on, we'll

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go up to you know, Lake
George and the areas he's had his sightings.

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And happened to be a couple of
months later, I was up there

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for a conference and we popped.
I went over, got changed out of

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my suit that I was in for
the conference, and went up to the

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mountains and nothing happen. And I
thought, hey, this is great if

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I'm going out with it. You
know, this guy says he's in a

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big foot and everything and nothing happens. That's great because I'm like, if

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I get up there and there's something
goes on, I'm gonna be a little

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iffy about the things. So Steve
takes me to all those famous places in

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Whitehall and you know, the Abear
Road and down and then we end up

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in Vermont. We end up going
over you know, everything's really close over

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there, so over to where the
Vermont Trail camp footage in Frank's place,

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and you know, we kind of
hit it off as friends. I start

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doing some stuff with him, and
at that time I was making tactical knives

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and tomahawks for military law enforcement folks
and doing some survival gear, and he

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goes, okay, join my group. He goes out to do his talks,

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and I would go along kind of
watch the table, and I would

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bring on tactical stuff and say,
hey, you know, if you're going

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into the woods, that there's gear
that you should take with you. You

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should take a good knife with you, you should take you know, first

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aid kit, backpack. Stuff people
don't think about and they want to go

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right out in the woods. And
so that's kind of where tactical bigfoot research

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kind of came from, was taking
my actually tactical knife company combining it with

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the big foot thing, and I
started doing some big foot quote unquote knives

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and that's where we kind of kind
of rolled into this thing. And then

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it's been an ongoing thing where I
go out and I worked with Steve and

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he introduced me to the guys from
Nestra who've been around since the old Internet

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forums, you know, back when
it was just message boards. And then

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I got introduced to Eric Altman and
the guys in Pennsylvania and his group and

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had my first my first scream down
there with I love to call j Fred

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because I can ever say bo cha
Chen properly, and I puchered every time.

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Good friend and all. But you
know, I got in with a

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bunch of good, good folks that
introduced me to some stuff, and I

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just I've seen some stuff I can't
explain and has kind of kept me on

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the go to the point that Amy
Boom brought me in a zoo book and

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their team, and you know,
got to work with Seth and I've got

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to work with a lot of great
folks. And then I have a research

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partner, actually two research partners,
but my main one is a field biologists

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and the other one's an entomologist.
When we can get out and it's great

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to bounce different ideas off of them. And I've got a couple of their

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projects that we'll talk about a little
later. They're working with some folks.

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So yeah, you got you got
some cool stuff going on. Mike.

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How how many years ago did this
did this all start? I think,

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what are we at now? I
just I was just trying to do a

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deep dive in I got a bunch
of external hard drive. So I was

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just doing a deep dive in and
we're probably it's six years now, seven

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years now, So you know,
I came to us later in life,

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like I said, it kind of
came outward. But then I started doing

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a lot of conferences and with the
some of the disciplines that I have that

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I teach and work with and stuff
in my in my career field, like

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I work with a lot of military
and law enforcement guys, and you know,

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guys will pull me aside when they
find out that I'm into this and

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like, hey, you know,
we were doing this or we were doing

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that, and kind of spun off. Then I started doing my own podcast,

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but the information and every time I
get ready to walk away from the

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subject somebody else, I get a
call out of the blue, like hey,

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you want to check this out and
I can't explain this. And documentation

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is a key, And if they
can document it and we try to replicate

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it and we can't or we can
get as much data, it just keeps

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me going to see what the next
thing is and to help folks. Document

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is kind of what keeps me going. The best way to collect the best

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evidence that's that they can. You
know, I'm working on a thing right

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now, and the big point is
that a citizen scientists. And sorry it's

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late for me tonight, so my
words aren't coming out so great. I'm

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overthinking because you and I have talked
about so many things over the years.

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I'm trying to remember where we're at. But we're the funding, the cost,

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the you know, if your i's
your family and your friends you're going

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out with to do this. We're
not major corporations funding major institutions funding this

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thing. So I'm always trying to
figure out what the most reasonable, priced

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and unexpected an expensive way of keeping
documentation is there, even though I have

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a lot of really cool toys that
I'm allowed to have and get to work

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with. If mom and Dad want
to take Junior out to learn about the

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woods and learn about this subject,
I don't want them to spend an arm

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in the leg. I want to
get that that young individual or that family

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involved in science and in the outdoors, and if sasquatches the Bigfoot is the

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lead to that, and that kid
finds something somewhere else in life. Hey,

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I'm right behind that. So that's
kind of where I'm at with the

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subject of educational stuff. What do
you feel, Let's say, what do

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you feel a new person to big
footing they want to go out in the

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field, do some research. What
should they have in their their bag when

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they go out? First thing,
first aid kit, second thing, some

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water, third thing, some food. Then this is important. You know,

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we just we just had a mutual
friend hown in Florida. You know,

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pull different thing from getting some infection. You don't know if it's ben

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out in the woods or whatever.
And I've had friends that you do a

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lot of friends that have naked fraid
and other things. And you know,

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what do you get bit by in
the middle or are you tripping your fall?

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You got to know these things.
And that first sak it as we

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go along? Is it going to
be pretty helpful? And I'll kind of

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show you how that goes along.
But the other big thing is keeping a

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notebook, be it a big one, be it a little one, record

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what you got going on. And
I'm dropping stuff as we go here.

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You know, having a flashlight,
and this one happens to be it's not

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blind anybody here, but this one
that I've got is a multicolored flashlight.

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It does blue it does green,
it does alter a violet and UV is

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very big for me, as you'll
find the reds, the greens, and

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the blues, because when we look
at different things in nature, you're going

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to see different things under different lights, and that's a big thing. Color

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combinations for me is important, so
you know that first. In communications,

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Gere, I also carry a cell
phone, an extra cell phone, and

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an extra tat or tablet to hook
up to some of my expensive thermals and

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night visions and drones and stuff,
but also for some of the applications that

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I use and is a backup communication
device. And communication device is so important

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to be able to communicate with friends, family and whatever when you're out there.

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So those are really huge things to
keep it there. And another thing

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is like little things like Leaf and
Learn, you know, live and learn

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this one here which has different tracks
and I'm probably gonna turn my green screen

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off for us tonight and it's just
you. I mean, we're not really

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doing audio, but the little little
flash cards, a little foldouts that have

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you know, animal tracks. I
have bigger ones with different snakes and birds

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and sounds and such that are so
important to keep going. I mean,

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my gearbag is I carry a sling
bag, but I right to carry as

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light as I can. You know, a way of marking out where you're

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at, you know, so again
we're gonna turn that out and it happens.

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I thought we were in the predator
for a minute. Yeah, all

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right, so used to be doing
it from my side. I'm trying to

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remember how to turn around out there, I think, so around this side.

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You know. Not that I don't
use this every day for my nice

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you know that. So, but
I like tearing and you see me hand

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these out. Is the cloth tape
measure, the tailor's tape measure. Yes,

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some folks will say with little water, it'll stress, it's not gonna

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stretch to much. This particular one
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twenty inches. It gives you a
known length. It's also cordage. That's

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the other reason that I carry it. We'll be back with more big Foot

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Society after these words from our sponsors. So if you've got to make a

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splint and tie yourself up, you
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the ability and being the cloth plastic
fabric that it is, it doesn't make

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a lot of noise. So when
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usually I have one on my bench
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you get that smell you know that
comes through with a you know, and

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it's it's there and it closes up
and now it drags through the middle of

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it. You know, if you
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it's a nightmare. Just think about
trying to do construction at home. So

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one of these is great. I
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the end or a dog hook,
and the reason being for these twofold known

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length. So this one I know
has this black one here has eighteen foot

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of cord on it, but it's
got a ring, so I can hook

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this to itself, or I can
hook it to a tree. It's weighted,

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so I can put that known length
up in the tree. If so

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somebody says I've seen something at this
headlight or you know this height, I

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can throw something up, and I've
done the same thing. I've put the

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rings on the tape measures as well, and it just allows me there,

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but it also allows me to do
a circle search. So folks that say

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I've lost my track, So for
years I was searching recovery diver. I

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still do underwater robots stuff. But
I can put a steak down if I

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find a print, or I can
take a flag, my little flags,

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I make out a tape and bamboo. Or a friend Emily or at their

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fourst floor, she does some cute
little orange ones. You've seen Alex use

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them. Yeah, I show to
these little ones and then she's like,

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hey, can I make big ones? I'm like sure, but he's a

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little smaller. So I love it
because it's out there. And you know,

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like I said, Alex has used
them all and you know an Eli,

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those guys have used them quite a
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she uses them all the time.
I use the small flags too.

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Full for using the small ones like
this because I can use them as a

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trail marker and the evidence. So
if I find that print, I find

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that hair, I can put these
markers down, just like a police officer

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doing a forensic thing or an archaeologist
start setting those marks. But then I

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can put that ring on my steak, and sometimes I'll carry a tent steak

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in there that'll fake physically fit or
being a hole in a loop. I

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can run the string through and tie
it to my branch or whatever. But

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then I will do consecutive known circle
to look for additional evidence items. And

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again I'm documenting them either by video
when I'm out there with my phone or

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I generally carry a pretty good sized
DSL or camera with me, or you

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know, a goal pro with me
to record as much information that's out there.

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And you know, like I said, we're going through my pack quick.

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I also have envelopes paper envelopes for
hair, so and big ones and

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the big ones, so the little
ones the coin size, and I have

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the big ones, and it's a
good thing I turned this off so on

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these great two are my evidence so
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This is my sample, the date, the location, all that information.

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So we talked to somebody like Derby
Derby Orcott at NC State University who's

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doing the DNA study. What's going
to come up better than we can send

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something like that with the full documentation. I do have a UV hair collection

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program going on, uh kind of
something I've been working with with Doug Hijack

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a little bit, just kind of
inspired some of the information after talking to

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him doing some UV light with some
hair. But again how I collect that

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data? Big paper bags. They're
in my bag, so I can collect

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again, pair of samples, you
know, this one here, a bag

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of porcupine here, you know,
that's in there that we collected, and

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we got some other stuff and eventually
they get moved onto slides and you know,

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we go from you know, so
you'd slide them up with what animals

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they are? So what else is
in there? Gloves, sterile tweezers and

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those are you know, to get
me started mask Most everybody's pretty much carings.

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So that's what's generally going into my
my backpack. So I've got that

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stuff with me twenty four seven,
So I might have a uth, like

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I said, a little UV flashlight
or the big flashlight. Usually got a

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bunch of flashlights and then who knows
one of three thermal cameras or night vision

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cameras with me. Why would it
be important to have gloves and sterile tweezers

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with you? So we don't want
to we don't want to cross contaminate.

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If we come across something, we
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You know that that item that we
found, you know, be it scat

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hair, skin, you know,
you want to make sure you've got that

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stuff there. If you're using casting
materials, sometimes it's nice to keep that

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casting material off your hand because some
of that stuff will burn a little bit

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if you can't get a washed off
right away. That's one reason I carry

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the extra cell phone and the other
tablets. A lot of times I run

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light, so I'm not carrying the
extra twenty five pounds of hydrocal that's usually

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or dentist stone that's usually in the
car are I use three D scanning apps.

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I use bird apps to turn around
and get that information, so I

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have it be it polycam or scan
three D. And not only if I

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find that track, am I scanning
the track, I'm scanning the whole area

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so I can go back and take
a look at things. Most folks when

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they take that single photo, that's
what they get. But again that's what

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I'm saying, take your tape,
measure and measure it out. But using

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a three D scanning application, photopictrometry
is what it is. It will build.

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You need to take at least twenty
photos to really give you that depth.

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There are some new three D scanners
that are out there, and the

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prices are coming down that don't have
to be hooked into a computer, but

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a lot of them have to be
hooked into computer phone. So you're using

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a lot of memory units that turn
around and you know, a big processor

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to get that stuff out. But
you can do this three D scanning like

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lighter stuff with the newer iPhones,
right, new new iPhones. New.

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I'm an Android person, so I
started using this stuff a couple of years

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ago. Actually, I got a
text message from a researcher in Massachusetts and

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carries like, I'm in the middle
of the woods and I have no casting

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materials. What do I do?
And I'm like, what do you got

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for a phone? And I said, get a scanning out. So she

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was my first guinea pig on a
possible sasquatch track and the first one outside.

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Pretty much my partner and I know, really using it. He's,

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like I said, a research biologist, and he was using him in the

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field. He's actually got a big
scanner to hooks the new a laptop.

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But for quick for the phone,
I mean, that was great, and

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we've been pushing that non stop.
You know, if you've got him in

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again as the technology and the phone
comes along, So what you know the

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iPhones have is that light our sensor
on them that some of the androids don't,

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So you may get a little different
definition than but it's better than not

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having anything, and it's better than
not having that single photo, you know.

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I've had that talk with with a
couple of folks that that's what their

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specialty is is doing like three D
scanning and printing and stuff, and they're

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like, well you can't. Well, yeah, I don't have fifteen thousand

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dollars you know for a big expensive
industrial scanner, or eight or nine hundred

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dollars to throw into one of the
cheaper scanners. What I can do for

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either free with ADS or you know, two dollars or a dollar a month

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is I can go get a scanning
app and I at least I have it

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on my phone. I can come
back and I can use my my PC

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and I can look at it multiple
different angles to see what I have.

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That's that's the thing, is that
what we what we can pull and what

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we can do is it's just amazing
on the information that's out there. And

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I switch to a different machine so
I don't see if I can find a

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scan for a you know, a
quick overview is that you know, I

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know we've seen someone of our other
friends. I mean, here's a see

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if I could download this one quick
for you and give you a share here,

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yeah, screenshot to put that there. No, of course now it

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wants to take it. You know, this is the same screen shot and

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over right the other one. Right, let's pull up the other screen here

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and so and I know you're not
using much of the video, but just

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kind of give you an idea what's
going on. So we can pull in

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from come back over to stream yard
and give you my share my screen.

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So I just sent you the share. So I mean that's the three D

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scan using you know, we can
actually look at some of that definition.

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And if I go and pull the
original file which is loaded into something else,

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I really can go take a look
at the whole rundown of it using

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some of the three D apps.
So you know, if you go into

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Basic Windows, there's a three D
viewer right on your desktop that you can

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pull and I'll pull that one up
and share that screen. Can you print

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out these three D scans using a
three D printer as well? In a

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way if you have the right the
right printer and you have the right file,

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so let me sure and switch screens. So you know, okay,

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what I just sent you. So
this is the three D viewer that's right

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from from Microsoft. That's right in
there. So I mean you can go

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and find your file, you know, and I have to go back and

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look into my my folder and stuff
like that and pull it back out again.

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But where you would actually be able
to go in and you know,

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take a look with all these things. Cool, this is one you know,

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this is just a sample. But
again, I just I just updated

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this PC four doing the podcast.
Everything else has been on my laptop,

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gotcha. This is a really good
episode because it's been a while since I've

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really been able to dig into solid
research related info. And I think this

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will be helpful for a lot of
listeners. You mentioned in passing, I

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think you were mentioning or alluding to
the Merlin Bird app. Merlin Bird app.

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Can you spend a few minutes talking
about how it's important to have that

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on your phone if you're going out. So Merlin is awesome. So it's

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from Cornell University, and so good
shout out to one of those New York

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State you know, area coologists.
But so We've got bird dot Net and

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we have Merlin, and we pull
up Merlin's on my front page on my

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phone. So so Merlin sound ID
I'm coming in here allows you to go

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in and actually hit the sound id. Not only does it allow you to

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record what birds are they are,
but it gives you a visual like you

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know, we talked to the guys
on the op about us an Audassey.

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But at least I can take a
look at things when they're going along.

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And if I pull up and pull
up one of my lists in here,

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so my sound recordings, I can
go back and I can look at my

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recordings and if I play them through, it's not gonna go through now.

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Right now, the apps I can
work right now, that's weird, but

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it'll get It'll give me a list
of you know, what birds are there

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and stuff, and I can go
back and look at that audio it is.

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But the other thing about Merlin is
I can set it down in front

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of my computer, in front of
the speakers, and if I got a

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general idea where they're at, you
can go pick the geo location and look.

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So there's a lot of time,
there's a lot So there's a lot

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of there's a lot of time that
I may watch other live shows and such,

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and may drop the Merlin app and
kind of watch to see what comes

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up in the background, be it
owl's crows, great horn, you know,

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or great blue herons, or I'll
get a call from another investigator,

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Hey I got this recording, Well, as long as I can get it,

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you know, clear enough where I
don't have the dog, and you

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know it was recorded and then recorded
and then sent over you know, through

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the computer. Yeah, it's it's
it's usually pretty good. And you can

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use that to try to figure out
like where the recordings from, Well not

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so much for the recordings from.
If I've got a general idea, there's

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there's different folders from around the country
that so I can actually you know,

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pick up you know where and so
you've got a geo spot man. Sorry,

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the camera just as not staying clean
tonight. But I can go up

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in the corner and kind of search
by different areas to look for things where

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they're at it searched by you know, the time of the year, the

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family, you know, Like I've
been from here down to Florida, so

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I've got like Zephyr Hills, Florida, I've got Fort Lauderdale, I've got

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you know, down to Miami and
into the glades. We'll be back with

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more Bigfoot Society after these words from
our sponsors, and I can look at

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that time of year. So but
again, like I said, there's been

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a couple of times where I'm watching
a show or a documentary somebody's done and

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oh hey, let's take a look
and see what's there. You know,

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bird wise that is so smart.
Oh man, that is That's a really

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smart dude. And the other thing
about that is if you're going to get

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that app on your phone and then
go out in the field, make sure

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you take the time to download the
huge file that goes with it, so

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you don't get out there and you're
like, oh no, I can't really

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use it now, and you know
we all end up with it, you

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know, half a dozen extra phones
over the years, you know that you're

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just downloading on those. I got
like this extra little palm thing or whatever

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that has like my backup remote for
like my dash camera and everything. So

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literally I don't have to use my
use my regular phone. And then birdnot

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Net is similar. Again, it's
another Cornell app. But again I can

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00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:38.720
visibly watch this, but this one
I physically have to go in and sample

408
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.079
what I'm looking at, where the
other one will identify as it goes along.

409
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.279
I'll actually say, oh, I
want that section, and I can

410
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.920
pull that recording and then I can
go back and look at those recordings as

411
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:59.839
well. Another one I'll run is
Physics Toolbox, which allows me to you

412
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:02.759
know, have sound meters and everything
else and kind of watch some of the

413
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:07.680
stuff that's out there. So it's
got you know, your sound meter,

414
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:13.720
you're your skilloscope, your spectrum analyzer
is all right there. So again,

415
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.480
keeping yourself quiet and listening is just
great, but it's it's good to know

416
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:22.160
your animals that are out there,
because after I've got bird dot Net going

417
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:28.119
or I've got Merlin going, and
there's another sound and I don't quite recognize

418
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:32.359
it, you know, Like I
said, taken from from Chris and and

419
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:37.000
David and stuff like that in the
op where they're saying, hey, thrown

420
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:42.200
into you know, one of the
spectrum analyzers. There's a couple of hunting

421
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.119
apps that you can get, like
I Hunt Sound and calls that you can

422
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:52.240
go and pick those different animal sounds
and go compare them and It's amazing how

423
00:32:52.240 --> 00:33:05.680
many times I noticed that folks are
using gators bowls, bison uh in your

424
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:07.880
sound. And a lot of times
when I go out and do education purposes,

425
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.759
I'll bring a Bluetooth speaker else to
get in the middle of the audience

426
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.920
and Hey, what's that, you
know, And I'm like, God,

427
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:20.240
that's the t Rex from you know, Jurassic Park, or that's that's that's

428
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.400
Sasquatch. I know it's Sasquats.
That's what I heard of TV. And

429
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:30.160
You're like, well, it could
be, but here's this and now we

430
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:35.200
can go online. We'll call their
videos from you know YouTube of you know

431
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.960
known you know, scientific shows or
something like that. You know. I'm

432
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:45.079
still a big proponent on listening for
gibbons sounds as a as a young kid,

433
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:47.759
I spent time as a volunteer at
the local zoo and spent a lot

434
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:52.359
of time with chimps and rings,
gibbons and spider monkeys behind me on one

435
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:58.119
side of the particular building and the
other side of the building that just had

436
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:02.640
some different reptiles and little stuff in
between. You had you know, a

437
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:09.320
lion, a tiger and some other
you know, bigger birds and stuff during

438
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:13.480
the winter, so listening to those
sounds all the time as a kid man,

439
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.639
if I hear something different, it's
like okay, but then I'll pack

440
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.239
it those up and we'll ship them
off. They're our friends. So totally

441
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.760
I apologize for the dogs there tonight. So you know, do you use

442
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:32.320
on X at all? I don't. I probably should. A lot of

443
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:40.239
folks that I go out with do, But I like using Scott's big Foot

444
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:45.119
Mapping Project map when I'm out.
We use that in Florida. I just

445
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.239
used it last weekend. We're up
in the outer aroundex just looking for moose,

446
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.119
just as a fun thing, kind
of a roll off from my show,

447
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:57.679
because I missed that once looking for
moose and got lost. And you

448
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:01.199
know that's another thing. Keeping your
bag. Put a map, a good

449
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:07.280
old fashioned map. Put the old
fashioned map in a car. The first

450
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:08.320
weekend we went looking for moves.
You know, we're like, oh,

451
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:12.159
use your phone, that's not gonna
work. We had a GPS. That

452
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.400
was weekend. Garman decided that they
were going to get hijacked, so they

453
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:21.840
had no satellites. So going back
to a good old fashioned map is so

454
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.639
much and pre planning. It's just
the way to go is keeping a map,

455
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.400
Leeping a good map and knowing how
to read a map is amazing.

456
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:34.519
It's a it's a lot of start
today, man, it truly is.

457
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.800
I mean having a compass, having
a map, having a first aid kit.

458
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.440
Those are the basics. And again
going back to the first aid kit,

459
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.840
you have sterile tweezers. You have
your gloves. Sometimes you have a

460
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:53.079
mask. Now you generally have a
plastic bag or something in that first aid

461
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:59.719
kit. You have alcohol swabs,
so I have your fire starter. Again,

462
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:05.079
you're tweezers to collect in a lot
of those little tweezer containers. I

463
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.800
don't think I had. I think
I've moved everything in another bin. But

464
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:14.400
the ability to find what's in your
first aid kit now to help you collect

465
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:19.599
data is so important. You know
you can in there there you got some

466
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.239
white tape and you got guess what
you got. You got medical tape and

467
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:27.039
you got a lot of times I
have obstacle sticks in or a tongue of

468
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.239
pressure of some sort. It gives
you an evidence plague. Oh yeah,

469
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:34.559
So having a good first a good
first aid kit so important to have that

470
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.039
stuff and usually a lot of them
come with a pair cord. Now,

471
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:44.360
so, man, this is a
solid this is a solid episode. Let's

472
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:51.239
let's switch gears for a little bit. Has there been a time when you've

473
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:55.239
been out in the field and you've
experienced something and you're like, oh,

474
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:01.119
things just got very serious bigfoot related
it And I'm not sure how comfortable I

475
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.559
feel right now, or maybe I'm
super into this right now, you know.

476
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.480
Well, I'd say there's not a
time that have been like, oh,

477
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:13.320
man, you know, like I
feel threatened or something like that.

478
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:20.480
So my first PA bigfoot capping adventure, you know, gun out and it's

479
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.519
just a rainy weekend kind of thing. And like I said, I'm talking

480
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:27.679
to Jay and all day the day
before, I'm talking to different witnesses.

481
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:32.159
You know, this is my first
like real exposure big foot type thing besides

482
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:36.400
a little chataka when we have here, which is an awesome event if you're

483
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.199
in western New York. Peter runs
a great event. I mean, he's

484
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:42.840
had Meldrum, he's had Cliff,
he's you know, he said, Seth

485
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:50.239
there. Steve's there all time in
great great area as well. But I'm

486
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.440
there and everybody's talking about Hey,
it went to a card I have a

487
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.960
cigarette. You know, I went
out to get my smokes hanging out with

488
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:59.000
friends while they have and I'm like, all right, what's the deal with

489
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:02.760
that? So I jokingly look at
a Jay and I'm like, hey,

490
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:07.000
dude, you gotta smoke, and
he goes they hand me a cigarette.

491
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.960
As he does, we hear a
scream coming from the woods. Now it's

492
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:15.199
a family camping event. It's it's
great, uh, you know, and

493
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.760
here we are, you know,
talking about a cigarette. Unfortunately. So

494
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.599
but we've got families up with us, and we're broken in a couple of

495
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:29.519
three different groups and we're up on
this pipeline area and we hear that scream

496
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.280
and I just kind of looked at
him like what do we got going here?

497
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.440
And you know, we're kind of
the responsible adults there. So Jay

498
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.920
gets on the radio and it starts
calling other folks like, hey, did

499
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.199
you guys do a scream? Did
you just and just not a human scream?

500
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.280
You just you felt in your chest? Well, I got parents with

501
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.239
with young children. So now I'm
like, all right, I'm dealing with

502
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:54.000
bear spray and everything else. We
try to let's get everybody circled up,

503
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:59.199
Let's start bringing the groups, and
we bring everybody in. I kind of

504
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:04.280
have everybody standing shoulder the shoulder facing
out. I'm trying to calm everybody down.

505
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:06.360
I'm like, all right, let's
say everybody just do a scream,

506
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:14.679
just kind of whatever everybody is or
scream. We get some responsible and I'm

507
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:19.800
like, oh, well, they're
not really paying attention because they're all giggling,

508
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.960
laughing. But I'm like, I'm
like, yeah, I'm bouncing Jay

509
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:29.440
and Joe and somebody else was Ryan
Jim. All right, so Jay always

510
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:31.119
comes out of the woods right we'd
gone in dark. I'm like, all

511
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:36.559
right, so I light everybody up
and we start kind of marching ourselves out,

512
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:38.280
and I'm like, everybody just watched
the ground because we went up this

513
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:40.840
way. I want to see if
anything is gonna come across the trip.

514
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.480
And some lady, you know,
a couple of people down for me.

515
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:46.519
He's like, hey, what do
I got? So we find an impression,

516
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.440
let's start following the impression. So
what we're taking photos and again I've

517
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.000
got guys that've been out there doing
this for years, and then there's me

518
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:59.559
with like it's six seven months experience
looking for the stuff at that point,

519
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.719
and We're like, okay. So
we started with like fifteen twenty people and

520
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:06.400
next thing, you know, there's
like four or five of us standing there

521
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.000
and really where did everybody go?
You know? And as we walked out,

522
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:12.920
we felt, you know, we
could hear something kind of pasting us

523
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.840
out, but again we have no
confirmation on what it was. We had

524
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:23.079
a small seek thermal camera and we
had my night vision at the time that

525
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:27.920
the bousche I had, which is
is great or bushnell that I have.

526
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.400
It's great for open fields, but
closed in it you get too much I

527
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:36.840
r bounce back. No, actually
I didn't have it. I had this

528
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:42.559
old Russian unit that I have.
Cool. Oh oh yeah, this is

529
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:47.039
like Gen one. I gotta make
sure like the covers are on it still.

530
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:51.800
You know, this is like you
don't point at any light source because

531
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.840
yeah, you just take your eyes
out. Oh yeah, take your eyes

532
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:59.320
out. It's it's green. It's
that you know, oh man, And

533
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.079
yeah, my buddy gave it to
me when he gets really expensive PS fourteen.

534
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:08.480
You know, but it's it's clear. But you know, us an

535
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:15.039
I are illuminator or something and down
it just so that that stays on the

536
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:20.960
treasure shelf right, but so that
one was like, okay, I heard

537
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:22.519
my but I can't tell you one
way or another. Like I said,

538
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.639
we got an impression. It looked
like a print, you know. And

539
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:34.360
come back. About two years later, we're up in the Aderondex. We're

540
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.880
sitting over top of car where Steve
had his sighting where we filmed part of

541
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:43.440
on the trail of the Journey,
and I'm leaning over the top of the

542
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:50.880
car and I've got a you know, a no name action camera I mounted

543
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:52.679
on my chest, I got the
recorder going, I got a thermal camera

544
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.079
in a pocket and given somebody else
the night vision were. But we're waiting

545
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.239
for Steve to set up a camera
and I'm leaning over to hope of the

546
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.400
Chevy Equinox when the older style,
the bigger ones, and something comes across

547
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.440
the hood and hits me in the
forehead and I'm like, oh, well,

548
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.159
it didn't come from above. And
I'm looking for eggcorns. I mean

549
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.519
we've been up there. We've hit
this spot I don't know how many times,

550
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:15.559
and I'm like, what you know, another one comes across. I

551
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:21.199
get hit again. I'm like,
all right, that's two. And I'm

552
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.079
like, hey, what's going on? You know when I look down and

553
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:28.039
look at the action camera and it's
the batteries dead. I mean, it's

554
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.599
those things last, you know,
fifteen minutes if you're lucky. If now

555
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:35.239
I now see that some of the
bigger corporations come on these giant batteries you

556
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:40.400
can plug in aside and even run
other cell phone batteries into him. Now

557
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:46.599
and given up on him slightly and
just gone with an expensive DSLR that'll do

558
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:53.119
like a hybrid camera like the loomis
like Larson carries. But then see's like

559
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:55.840
they're throwing rocks. And also it
was like a handful of rocks just hit

560
00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:00.119
Pepper the side of the car,
and we're like, okay, now I'm

561
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.920
running around the car the thermal cameras, you know, turning the thermal camera

562
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.960
on. But by the time we've
scanned the area, there's nothing there.

563
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:12.840
But you're like, I can't we
don't hear anybody running off, We don't,

564
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.119
you know, that's just one of
those things. You're like, Okay,

565
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:16.760
well it goes in the book.
You know, we know we have

566
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.679
known sightings in the area. Do
we say it's X, Y or Z.

567
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.239
No. But again, We're not
under kid corn. We weren't under

568
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:29.519
pine tree. It came in horizontally, it didn't come from above, you

569
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:31.360
know. It wasn't a bouncing roll. It was definitely a skidding hit,

570
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:35.320
you know, and you had the
whole side of the car get proper.

571
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.960
And again we're on the top of
the mountain. We're like, there's nobody

572
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.679
around, you know, because we'd
already drove the area. We've been sitting

573
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:44.679
there for a little bit and it
was raining. I mean, it was

574
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:49.360
like it didn't make any think.
We heard some some stuff going in and

575
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.840
and now taken from the knocks and
whoops, depending on where were are,

576
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:58.320
I kind of take a half check
because I found this really great area.

577
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.599
And then I was at another festival
and this guy I was like, yeah,

578
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.920
I'm down there screaming and doing hoops
and knocks and everything else, and

579
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.599
I'm like, not this particular location, but I've been to a couple others

580
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:13.760
like their sightings in the area,
and You're like, well, no,

581
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.000
I know this guy's doing it.
And that's that's a big thing now,

582
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:21.519
is that you get these places that
have been featured on some of the shows

583
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.960
and stuff, and how much can
you take for knocks, and how much

584
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:29.199
can you take for screams? You
know, I mean you can you can

585
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.519
kind of feel the difference. But
again, that's something. So I don't

586
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:38.039
want to bang on trees anymore because
there's that, and there's the pine cone

587
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:43.280
issue. Where as you ask,
you know, if you had one day

588
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.840
that you just kind of like,
oh, I had taken a co worker

589
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:50.639
and her daughter out because her daughter
was going to write a paper on the

590
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:54.119
subject, kind of you know,
a pro con kind of thing. So

591
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:59.519
I take them up to an area. Yeah, there's supposedly some sightings.

592
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:04.360
It's close to this one here,
and I know the area pretty decent,

593
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:06.639
so I know there's a nice bench, so I walk them over. I

594
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:07.960
set them down the bench. One
gets the night vision, one gets the

595
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.960
thermal. I do what you do
when you get on fishing, you know,

596
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.679
you grab your cell phone, you
start playing around because nothing happens.

597
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.960
I'm not really paying attention to where
I'm standing. I always remember where you're

598
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.800
standing. I didn't realize we're standing
on a piece of slate and something bluff

599
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.960
charges us there. Now. Could
have been a bear, could have been

600
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:30.880
a deer, could have been something
else. I don't know, we'll be

601
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:37.199
back with more Bigfoot society after these
words from our sponsors. But as I

602
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.199
turned to get my flashlight on what
it was, I trip and fall.

603
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:46.440
They start to scream at the top
of their lungs. Neither really seasoned once

604
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:51.199
pretty easy to scare. Kind of
look at her sometimes and she, you

605
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:53.519
know, is there and you know, a mom, looks a daughter and

606
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:58.719
a couple of Expoto was about turning
the flashlight on. I get back up,

607
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:05.320
got my flashlight and whatever it was
was gone. But it was just

608
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.719
kind of weird. So the next
day I go up there with my science

609
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.440
buddy. We're walking through. He
gets a phone call from his wife and

610
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:13.159
about the same time I hear something
whipping through the trees and I'm like,

611
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:17.360
wow, here's the thing we had
this, you know, whatever go on,

612
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.320
I've got something coming to the trees. So I'm like, I need

613
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.719
to go see what it is.
So I go charging off towards the sound,

614
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:29.159
and I'm about fifty yards into the
tree line and I realize it's not

615
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.079
coming through the trees, is coming
down from the trees. I'm in a

616
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:37.639
high stand of pines and there were
pine cones coming down well, the pine

617
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.960
cones were about six and a half
of seven inches long, so they're about

618
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.639
a half a pound. Because they're
nice and green, and as they're coming

619
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:49.119
down their heart so as they're hitting
the other tree limbs coming down, they

620
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:52.639
sound like they're knocking coming through the
trees, and when they hit the ground,

621
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:58.880
they give you a pretty good thump. And I don't have it right

622
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:01.639
here in front of me. I
will share that audio and visual with you

623
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:07.400
there because it's kind of an interesting
thing because if you take the visual out,

624
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:09.960
everybody's like, you got knocks,
you got knocks? No, what

625
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:15.639
I have as pine cones, excuse
me. And after doing some research and

626
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.360
calling some botanists that we know,
we found it. You know, the

627
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.559
pine cones drop at different times of
the year. It doesn't have to be

628
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.440
a temperature phase. It just when
their chemicals hit a certain thing, they

629
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:30.199
just start dropping pots. And we
kind of looked at that year around so

630
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:31.920
a lot of folks are like,
oh, I heard a knock. I

631
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:35.199
heard a knock. Well, are
you standing in the middle of a pine

632
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:39.880
forest? Because it will really make
a difference on how that sound comes down

633
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:44.679
and the echo you'll get off coming
those those things, and like I said,

634
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:47.920
I will look for that's it's all
in a presentation I have on the

635
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:53.840
laptop that I use as part of
that audio. I've never heard that that

636
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:58.400
viewpoint before and that is incredible.
Mike, Like, that's what I like

637
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:01.480
about use your way of things thinking
about things. And I mean you're one

638
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:08.039
of the one of the guys that
you contact me quite a bit after certain

639
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:13.000
episodes and you're like, dude,
I don't know about like and you're throwing

640
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.280
stuff at me. I'm like,
yeah, that's a solid point, Like

641
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:20.119
you're really looking into stuff. But
you know, like I said, I

642
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.559
have a friend that had an encounter
in South America with what they believe was

643
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:29.760
a moping warry Steve's interviewing. You
can listen to his and I've interviewed rate

644
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.599
on my show as well and talked
to his family. But I've also talked

645
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:37.880
to a couple of the other gentlemen
that were with him in South America during

646
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:45.440
that particular operation, all swearing on
their families, lives, their jobs,

647
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:52.920
their careers. Some can't come because
they're still working particular in particular fields that

648
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:55.480
they can't come out. I know, as they get closer to retirement.

649
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.400
They've all offered to kind of come
public with it, but they're like,

650
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:01.280
we saw it, we're up close. If we would have shot at it

651
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:06.519
would have given away where we were. And you know, talking to those

652
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:08.719
folks, talking to you know,
Brian Gosling and some of those guys in

653
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.679
the White Hall, the law enforcement, the military, the doctors that I've

654
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:17.119
talked to and say they're there.
You know, I've had folks take me

655
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:23.880
to their locations and I've watched and
seen the physical response that they've had.

656
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:27.840
I had one witness take me to
his spot. Nobody had been there.

657
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.519
I think his wife had been there. It was the only other person that

658
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:35.719
not even into the location where he
had his sighting and watching a very large

659
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:38.599
grown man breakdown in tears saying this
is what I saw, this is what

660
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:44.679
I saw here, and you know, seeing the traumatic experience in his face,

661
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:46.519
and can say, Okay, what
did you see and where were you

662
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:51.519
and how can you describe it?
And Joe and I actually just did a

663
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.480
presentation together, and it would it
just happened to coincide a couple of weeks

664
00:49:55.480 --> 00:50:00.079
before and I think you and I
talked about, you know, the paint

665
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:05.079
sample idea. You know, we
taught you talk to witnesses now all over

666
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.320
the country, all over the world, and it's like I saw something that's

667
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:10.679
brown, or I saw something that's
green. Well, I had a gentleman

668
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.880
that was up in the Adirondack area
and he says, you know, I

669
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:17.679
saw something and it was it was
this color. Well, okay, what's

670
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:22.719
great to you and what's great as
somebody else's brown to somebody else. So

671
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.119
I'm like, go to your local
box store and get some paint chips.

672
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:31.400
That's a good idea, man.
So you go to that local big box

673
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:36.480
store and you pick up the paint
chip, and I can say, this

674
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:44.039
particular brand is this particular color for
it's this particular color. And again here's

675
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:46.360
the interesting thing. So you and
I are looking at this on a computer

676
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:52.199
monitor with using a computer monitor,
and yeah, there's another way of doing

677
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.239
things as a computer monitor. But
depending on what your settings are, if

678
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:58.840
you've got warm settings, cold settings
or whatever, it's gonna look a little

679
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:02.400
different. But having those hard physical
copies in front of you very important.

680
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.320
But you know, and this is
why we network in this business or in

681
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:13.000
this field. Find a buddy that
that's got some talents or some skills.

682
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:16.519
We all have something to offer.
So maybuddy Matt Larson there in Central Florida,

683
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:21.039
Bigfoot, who's a photojournalist and he's
a camera guy. He's an artist.

684
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:24.159
Well, his wife's also nervous.
They said, get panatones. So

685
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.599
I didn't even I don't think I
even had these when we were in Ohio.

686
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:34.519
These are industrial color standards. Ye, so somebody anywhere around the rock.

687
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:37.519
Now, this particular rock is not
cheap. These are an old use

688
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.760
set. But what I use for
my presentations now I want an Amazon for

689
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:45.559
twenty four bucks. Oh wow,
and I got it's a fabric. So

690
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:49.880
Joe sat there and I said,
what did you see and what color?

691
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:55.440
He could go right down and pick
the color. Wow, And that's now.

692
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:59.159
I can take it into a log
or we can have somebody you know,

693
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:01.320
and I've mentioned it's a Scott and
putting it into his thing and say

694
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:06.000
hey, this is what it is, or that you can you can print

695
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:07.599
them off, but again depending on
what you're printering. But at least you

696
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.079
will get you close. Now here's
the other things. You have somebody that

697
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.960
has color blindness or some kind of
visual thing still having this color. When

698
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:20.599
they pick that color out, you
have an idea of what color they saw,

699
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:24.960
what color in their mind they saw
might be different, but you can

700
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:30.760
still document that kind of thing.
It's having those little documentations that we can

701
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:35.119
log. So now when I talk
to witnesses, usually I take the small

702
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.360
binder with me, or I'll take
the panatones with me. There is another

703
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:44.360
way with your phone. You can
use like Adobe color wheel to get you

704
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:50.239
a general because you know, as
we design, you know simple things.

705
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.360
I'm going to share this this one
with your right now, let's see if

706
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:59.039
it'll let me do it. Here, come back up to the screen.

707
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:02.920
Get shout out to Matt from Central
Florida. Bigfoot. He's a cool dude.

708
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.239
So yeah, I definitely gonna.
I am getting him into Ohio.

709
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.159
Oh yeah, I'm gonna. I'm
doing my best to get him there.

710
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:15.920
So if we A'm gonna pull this
screen up here so I can see.

711
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:22.639
So if I make this bigger,
of course, it's not gonna do it

712
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:27.239
all right, clothes, I make
this bigger, so simple little color chart.

713
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.440
But as we go in and we
look at things, it's gonna be

714
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:32.960
a little different. But we can
go in and pick our shading. But

715
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:37.119
when we do a custom color,
it'll give you this hex number down at

716
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.440
the bottom. And I don't know
if you can see that or if I

717
00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:43.920
need to blow it up a little
bit. But by picking that custom color

718
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:51.159
we can take that gives us an
industrial standard and you know, and you

719
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.760
can use that code everywhere to find
that color. Yeah, yep. So

720
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:57.880
if somebody takeshim, goes on their
machine and says, hey, this,

721
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:02.559
at least you're going to get in
within three or four shades of what we're

722
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:06.239
doing. I get both going here, so I'll put you back down.

723
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:12.119
So oh man, that's another that's
another project I'm working on that that'll you

724
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:17.719
guys will be seeing soon. But
you know, it's just like I said,

725
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.519
it's just going and getting Oh,
well, let's see, I'm gonna

726
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:27.360
paint the house this color. Oh
and this color happens to be all these

727
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:32.480
shades of gray or brown. So
tomorrow, jeremiahen you're not running around to

728
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.599
this weekend, stop and get some
paint samples. Particularly, get a couple

729
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:42.320
of shades of gray and a couple
of shades of brown. Okay, now,

730
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.599
and what you do, go out
in the front yard, and walk

731
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:47.960
up to your first pine tree and
your first maple tree, your first birch

732
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.199
tree. Wait till you get a
couple of sightings in. So maybe you

733
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.599
want to hold off on sending this
one out for a couple of days.

734
00:54:55.719 --> 00:55:00.840
But look at the color shades you're
gonna get. And how when somebody says

735
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:05.719
gray, black, brown. Yeah, And that's what happened is as I

736
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.719
was talking to this gentleman and he
says, it wasn't only gray, it

737
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:12.800
was black and it was brown.
And then when he sent me the color

738
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:16.320
schemes, and I said, please
go to the location that you're at and

739
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:20.119
tell me what trees are there.
Take me some pictures of the trees.

740
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.079
Well, those species of trees,
if we compare those color schemes, blend

741
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:30.840
almost into him. So if you
were still and that's something else we'll be

742
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:35.960
sharing through Matt coming up soon.
Because usually when I want something done video

743
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.639
wise, I may talk about it. He's the guy I used to the

744
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:43.880
bring it to the world. They
would say that this is been this has

745
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:49.599
been awesome. Man. The reason
I love talking to you is I feel

746
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:54.440
like, for one more people need
to know about tactical bigfoot research because you

747
00:55:54.519 --> 00:56:00.159
have the tricks up your sleeve like
crazy. So I'm just glad you were

748
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:04.440
able to share some of them in
this episode. Man. Well, so

749
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:07.280
you know when I was getting ready
to walk away, dude, you started

750
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:12.840
clubhouse and brought our group together.
In that group, you know, is

751
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:15.800
it's a family and we kind of
share a lot of information. And that's

752
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:20.360
that's a big thing. You know, there's another thing. What's so important

753
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:28.760
about this topic. Think about the
benefits the friendships you make. Yeah,

754
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:32.199
we get into battles and stuff like
that, and and those folks that really

755
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:36.000
are you know, it's it's all
about you know, me, myself and

756
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:39.320
I It's it's not that I've met
some wonderful people doing this. I've seen

757
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:45.480
some amazing country and gone to some
amazing pieces of property, and I've learned

758
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:52.639
a lot of different tricks and trades
for myself. But the benefits of getting

759
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:55.519
out and going for a hike.
Your health benefits, oh yeah, you

760
00:56:55.559 --> 00:57:02.440
know, the weight loss, the
cardio, getting kids and families involved in

761
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:08.480
projects together and not sitting on a
couch anymore. Absolutely. I mean it

762
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:14.199
rekindled my interest in going back and
looking at archaeology and anthropology and when I

763
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:16.159
started doing that, I did a
deep dive and found one of my college

764
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:23.719
professors actually spent time doing papers on
primate dermoglyphics. Wow, that I was

765
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:29.159
able to pass along to Alex when
they were doing their stuff in Alaska,

766
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:31.719
and it was like, okay,
well that professor passed him out onto somebody

767
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:37.239
else, and it was kind of
but again where we go. You know,

768
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:39.239
when you talk to a witness and
you know, like, what do

769
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:45.199
they have to offer? You know, it's it's the the garbage guy that's

770
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:47.239
out at the road at three o'clock
in the morning, or the newspaper delivery

771
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:50.119
man, and I'm like, well, what do they Well, they saw,

772
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:52.960
well, I guess what, who's
driving the road at that time in

773
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:58.440
the morning. Who knows if Missus
Jones's cars there, the trash cans are

774
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:02.880
in the right spot. You know, it's a repetitive motion. Excuse me,

775
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.119
are you talking to an artist?
And when they say it's this color

776
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:13.360
burnt orange, or it's this color
pink, you know, or this color

777
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:16.280
brown, and you can say they're
picking up on those little things, or

778
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:20.480
the hair kind of went this,
or talking to a barber or something,

779
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:25.039
it went certain ways. Or an
architect, you know, do I always

780
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:36.079
go on the tree stop. Sometimes
I don't because of living in the Northeast

781
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.719
and living through a couple ice storms
up here and looking at snow load and

782
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:44.719
falls and stuff. But there's another
big thing. I go from here and

783
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:46.679
then I go down to Florida.
Well, if I'm out with the guys

784
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:51.519
in Florida, I want them to
explain what goes on in nature. The

785
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:53.639
same thing if I came out to
Iowa to hang out with you guys,

786
00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:58.679
what you're seeing with you know that
stuff. There are folks in Oklahoma with

787
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.599
you know, they get all the
crazy stuff out there. Yeah, and

788
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:07.519
more sighting is than anybody lately.
I don't you know the Southeast man Southeast

789
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:14.000
Oklahoma dude. But man, what
what a fun time, Chatt and I

790
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.000
am so glad you're able to come
on. Thank you so much, Mike

791
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:22.159
for for stopping by. I'm sure
people are going to be wanting to try

792
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:25.719
to keep up to date with what
you are up to. Is there a

793
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:32.159
way they can do that? So
I'm most active on Instagram. We also

794
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:36.599
do a podcast, probably a couple
times a month. Where's My Sage?

795
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:42.320
So tactical Bigfoot Research on Instagram and
on Facebook and on YouTube. I also

796
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:46.039
do a podcast, Where's My Sage
my co host Christy London, and usually

797
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:51.000
Tuesday nights a couple times a month. Right now, Christy's getting a wedding

798
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:52.159
ready for a wedding for a daughter, so we're not getting out there,

799
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:58.280
but we do everything from big foot
to the paranormal. She's a medium,

800
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:04.760
so we'll do reading shows. But
we've talked to folks from Jetila, from

801
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:09.039
the Food Network and about life's journeys. We've talked to survivalists from Naked and

802
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:13.559
Afraid, you know. We talked
to military and law enforcement guys about you

803
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:15.559
know, some of their their life's
journeys and paths. Like I said,

804
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:20.760
we all have something to offer.
We can all learn from somebody. So

805
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.760
that's where you can generally find us. I generally don't respond. If somebody

806
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:29.000
tries to send something to my personal
Facebook, send it to Tactical Bigfoot Research.

807
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:32.079
That's that's the best way to kind
of get in touch with me.

808
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:37.119
Awesome. Oh, it's so good. Thank you for hanging out, Mike.

809
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:43.440
No problem, brother, you know
I always been here for you here

810
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:46.840
at big Foot Society. Article is
to provide a platform for those that have

811
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:52.880
encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in
a safe and respected environment. But we

812
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:58.800
need to hear your story. If
you've experienced something that you just can't explain,

813
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please send me an email at Bigfoot
Society at gmail dot com. Then

814
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we can start the conversation. And
I know a lot of you have not

815
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shared your encounter at all. It's
been twenty years and it's time that you

816
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get this off your chest and then
you can get some well deserved for rest,

817
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because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through,

818
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and I appreciate every one of you
listening