12 Years Among the Hidden Ones: Bigfoot in North Idaho

0:00 You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's story isn't from a hiker or a camper. It's from a man who spent the last twelve years quietly exploring the deep forest of northern Idaho and learning how to see what most people never will, hand signals in the midst hidden forms in the trees, in a moment of interference, so strange it still gives me chills. This isn't a second hand account, it's not folklore. It's a first hand journey into the world of Bigfoot from someone the force chose to trust. This is the story of Tim and the Sasquatch of Northern Idaho. So stay with us, all right, Bigfoot Society. I've got Tim on the phone today. Tim is from Northern Idaho and we've got him on the show to share some really interesting things he's experienced over the last twelve years. Had a lot going on up there in northern Idaho. So welcome to the show. Tim.

0:51 How's it going man, it's going good. Thanks absolutely. You know we were talking before. We've got a lot of ground to cover in this one, so I'm going to go ahead pass things right over to you, and you'll feel free to take us back. Well, you know, I guess lead the way however you want to go after this, this large undertaking of talking about twelve years. Sure, I'll give it my best shot. I started out as a kid. I'd seen Bigfoot four times all the way up to seventeen. From age four to seventeen, only once by myself.

1:36 I had a. Female scheme at me when I tried to returning to camp. But the other times I was always with people, either brothers and sisters, or one time was a friend, and they with this creek we used to fish out, which on the Idaho Montana border. We used to find their footprints all the time. And then, like I said later on, I was four years old. The first one crossed in back of me while I was fishing on a rock, and I thought it was my brother screwing around with me. When I looked around the brush and had already got across the creek, and all I see was its head and back, and I was probably five hundred yards from camp, and I ran back and told my mom and dad there it was a bear.

2:17 It was a bear. I'm like, I ain't no bear, but a long story short. Twelve years ago, all these shows were on and I was telling my girlfriend, I. Go, yeah, I was seeing Bigfoot. It's like, no, wait, where at And she was. From the same area I was from, and I told him up in the rocky mountains. There, and she said, let's go look for him. I said, okay. So I went to where I had seen him as a kid, and the loggers had just annihilated the area. They seemed to like, as I learned later on, they like canyons. They liked being in the crieks, and as I learned later on, it's to cover their tracks. They hang around the supposedly for animals also. But we went to the area and it, like I said, it was just it looked like here here Ashima.

3:17 It was bad. So I was like, well, they're not going to be hanging around here. So we drove around, probably twenty miles from that area, and I found another canyon. With a creek. Rocky mountains full of them. They're criks are everywhere, and I don't say the Pacific cricks because obviously I don't want people up there. But it is about ninety miles from the closest town. In the Rocky Mountains in Idahoma down border. We drove up there and we hit snow. I usually go like at the very last week of April, but you're only going to get so far because of the snow. And we hit snow, and we turned around and I started going back down. I looked across the canyon there because they had just logged that area two years prior to that, and I seen holes in the side of the hill and I'm like, and they're in a straight line.

4:17 I'm like, I know, what does that? So we parked out the bottom and these land management companies this meets its National Forest and line management kind of meet together right there. And we went down there and we found the tracks where I had walked down the road. I got a pretty good picture of a tracking the snow from it, and I had went upside the mountain and turned right, and from from then on, I just kept going back to that area. In the first three years, I used to just sit and listen. I have one of those bionic gears, they call them a Paris Pariscot scope whatever they call that thing, the bionic ears, and I would sit and listen and listen and listen. Now I my girlfriend at times said she heard chatter, but I've never heard chatter. They're very very quiet, and there they only communicate with each other. They they've I've tried doing calls and that kind of thing, and I'll get onto that my eighth year when one actually called back, but it wasn't a big butt. But anyway, they're they're very quiet. And I was having a hard time, you know, trying to figure out how to see them, how to communicate, how anything. So I started going to all these bigfoot conferences and talking to people all over the country and world, you know, trying to figure out

5:49 how what to do. And I did the apple thing. And the first time I did the apple thing in the morning, when I returned, there was a giant rock on the stump. Where I'd put the apples. Now I'm walking down to this stump where where the rock is, and it's in a clearing, not a good clearing, it's just been logged, so but there's stuff starting to grow back. And I'm walking down to. Where I left those apples and I see this giant rock and I look up to with the woodline right there, and I see its face and it's watching me and I'm like, stopped, took a picture about face. And went back up to my jeep and took off.

6:32 I came back two weeks later, seeing the rock again, I thought, well, you know what, I brought a private bar help. It was probably two hundred pound rock, got it off the stump, put more apples down, but nothing. They weren't going to play that game again. Now some of the apples were gone, but I found them, and what I found was the rock chucks were taking them. So don't don't believe that Bigfoot takes your happens just because you're God. Anyway, that one on I kept coming back, kept for years, but it wasn't until my third year that I learned I guess what they were doing.

7:16 I was finding where this is. It's a canyon and it meets a creek, and you know, of course there's. A mountain on the other side, and. These things will lay they will lay down on. The ground to hide from you. I've found their body prints for me and a friend were up there and we're on a little hill, and if we only would have looked down, we'd have seen him hanging on the side of that hill. The whole big Foot chases you out of the. Woods and all that. I don't know where people get that from. I don't know if it's. Just different parts of the country that maybe this happens.

7:58 But these things have never ever tried any kind of violence with me. I really want to make that clear. They have. I'm not a tree hugger. I grew up planting and fishing. I don't do it too much anymore. But yeah, they've never ever tried any violence. They've never screamed, got me, thrown anything at me. They just stare at you. So once I figured out how to see. Them, and what I mean by that is, I'm going to tell you guys how I figured it out, because I found out by mistake, but I found it and then once you see them, it's easy to spot them.

8:41 And I kept coming back. To the area now for twelve years, and every time I go there, they're there. There's different groups. I'm on my seventh I'm gonna call them species a bigfoot. Not all bigfoot looked the same. There's a hairy face one that's smaller. There's a gray faced one that they looked at it. Okay, I want to get into the way what bigfoot looks like I talked to a lady in southern Idaho. We discussed bigfoots. She's with the BFRO, and I got a lot of respect for Matt moneymakers starting that organization up, you know, and all that.

9:22 I think that's great. But I was talking with her and she sent me drawings of what people think or thought they've seen a bigfoot, and I've never seen bigfoot like that. These drawings were of like this ape like things smiling. I've never seen him smile, and they're always The way they look is like they want to kill you. That's all the way. That's the only thing I can describe it. But I don't think they're doing it on purpose. I think that's just the way they look. So again, I been watching them for twelve years.

10:04 On my eighth year, I did my call. I always do my calls. I announce myself that I'm in the area. I give him a sign. I've tried communicating with him. I've been within twenty feet of one that he looked like it might've been an inbred of some kind, because he didn't he wasn't correct like that. I mean, they don't. They all look different, except for like families will somewhat resemble each other. But I'm staring at him and I'm trying to communicate. And I tried learning some courtling Indian I grew up there. I learned some of that, tried that, tried sign language.

10:46 The only thing. I can say is they somewhat understand well, they probably understand a lot, but they will react to hand and arm signals. They definitely will react to that. So I on my eighth. Year, I did my call and one answers back. Now when I say one answer is back. Me and my girlfriend at the time we interrupted a hunt and it was a triangle formation and they kept doing the same. It wasn't a whoop, it was a whoo whoo, and it was in a triangle formation. And what they were chasing was this cow elk.

11:29 And we walked. The cow elk came right up by our jeep and we got out of it. The cow elk state at our jeep. We walked down the logging road and we kept hearing this and I'm like, that's not a wolf. That's not a wolf. That's something else. And you know it's coming. They're coming. It's getting closer and closer. And at that time I think I had an AR fifteen and my girl had a like a nine mil something held seventeen rounds. I said, start shooting into this bank. Just start shooting. We're on a logging road and there's this high bank the bank. I go, just start shooting into it because they are getting close.

12:09 We emptier magazines into. The bank and it stops and we walked back to the jeep. When we get in it. That day, we went up the up like I said's down a canyon. We went up the left side of the mountain and we found a moose. It's late. Now there's two trees down in the road. There's smaller trees, maybe six. Inches a round. Yes, trees fall in the woods all the time. But I'll get to bigfootch pushing over trees because I've already proven this theory. But there's two trees in the road, so I bust out my chainshaw cut them up. I get around the corner and there's a dead moose. The moose's head has been ripped off and its spine is still attached to its head. The first thing I do is it's hind quarters. I'm looking for any wolf bite, cougar byte. I'm looking at his throat. I'm looking, you know, that whole area, try to find some bites. Not finding any bites, I opened it up. Everything was gone. Now it wasn't super clean, but it was gone. Heart, liver, most intestine was gone. Now the ground is soaked with blood.

13:27 Not so much like it happened twenty minutes ago, but probably earlier in the night. You were there in the morning, say seven o'clock, eight o'clock when we found this carcass. So we leave the carcass and go down. I'm sorry, I kind of jump in there. I've been doing this so long. I'm jumping around different stories here. So since then, I probably found four other moose carcasses killed the same way. Now again my eighth year. Sorry, I'm jumping around. I do my calls. I just again. It's just to tell them I'm there.

14:08 I give them the sign. I wait. They come to the edge of the woods. This thing house back. It does a wooh like I heard when we interrupted that hunt, and I'm like, oh great, so I do it again. It answers me again. I'm seeing kind of by the brush down in the canyon where it's kind of acting. It's moving towards me. So I start walking down towards it. I got my cell phone out. I'm gonna get you know, I'm gonna. Record this thing. It's coming. It's coming. They don't ever come out of the woods. They don't ever answer me, but it's coming. So it breaks the edge of the forest into the clearing. It's sort of shaped like a big foot, but it's not. I dropped my camera this time. I'm carrying a forty five to seventy now, so I take with me big footing religiously and this scene breaks the woods.

15:04 But it's it's skin. It doesn't have hair. It has skin like a like a warped frog, and its eyes were shaped like spades, but upside down on space. And it sees me, and I mean, I ain't gonna can I was. I was watching Big Flops hard enough. It's that you don't ever get used to it. It's scary all the time. But this thing, I mean, I was. I was pretty petrified. I was pointing my rifle at it and baiting. In my head, shoot or not, shoot or not.

15:45 It sees me, drops down on all fours, runs in the brush, and pops up by the tree. I moved over to the right to. It so I can see it better, and it's watching me, and I'm watching it. I took two pictures of it, and I just couldn't take it anymore, and I left. That same summer, I go back. And I do the whole call thing, thinking I might call back, but I did something different. I hid down beside a log. I've never hidden from him, but I hid down beside a log after. I did my calls, and I'm watching. I'm watching and this big triangle head goes up.

16:27 And I'm like. What, And I'm watching it, and then the face comes up. Its head looked like it was so furry. It looked like someone took shears and cut out his face. And it had a long nose. It reminded me of that cartoon with those three girls and the minions. That guy his nose was shaped like that. And I'm staring at this thing, laying down beside this log, and it took it didn't take him two seconds to find me, and his eyes meet mine and he gives me like a like. A scrowl, like he's like like he didn't.

17:10 Make a noise that I heard, but he looked he was pissed. So I pop up off that log and start walking out into the middle of the clearing watching him, and he sinks down and pops up like in the brush. But it's cleared out right there, so all I can see is it's butt and it's back in its head and it's facing the brush, and I'm watching it. I'm watching it, and I I kind of like, why doesn't it turn around? I don't understand. So I tried sneaking out a little closer, and I'm watching it, and I look to the left and here's this little bulbous head creature sitting in the brush and.

17:58 I'm watching it. I'm like, I don't understand what I'm seeing. And I moved two steps to the left of three and it opens its eyes and it's staring at me, and for the first time ever, I felt like it was trying to commute it. That thing was trying to communicate with me. It had no hair. It's probably four foot tall, five foot tall maybe, and had a big bulba's head, regular eyes in set like ours, small little nose, small little mouth. And it's setting there staring at me. I got two pictures, one of it with its eyes closed, and one with its open.

18:44 And what came through my mind right then and there after watching these creatures for eight years but not these little weird things. Was that something they didn't When you see their eyes, there's no it's like. It's like a robot. There's no empathy. You don't see anything in their eyes. It's like they're mechanical when you're staring at them. I've got two or three different. Pictures are very close of their eyes and there's just it's just it's like you're looking at the devil himself.

19:30 So this little creature staring at me, it's not intimidating like a bigfoot. But what I got from all that is did this thing just crawl out of that? Is that a machine? Because it's still parked in the same place. So I back up out of the canyon again. Here I see, you know, another alien type creature. I come back two weeks later, and I'm actually able because again this side, the one side of the mountain is blocked off because of the land management companies.

20:13 They put up gates, but the gates are open. So I go to the top and do calls, come back down to the area and I'm watching. I'm watching. I look over to the right and I see a gray face bigfoot, gray face bigfoots. Their skin looks dead, it looks if you've ever seen. Something this past. Their skins great, and that's what it reminded me of. It's sitting Indian style and standing above it is this.

20:55 All I can tell you is some kind of alien. That's all I can tell you. It's standing in back of it, and the bigfoot is sitting in front of it Indian style. And I took like three pictures of that and I got out of there. Again. These things never look happy. They they look upset that you're in their area. So now that's eighth, the eighth year, ninth ten to eleventh year. The alien looking things are still there. I'm still getting pictures of them. I'm still seeing the bigfoots.

21:39 This last summer it was different. The bigfoots were up by the road instead of down the canyon. What I've found out is someone had set up trail cams down there. I don't know who or why. I have let the Fish and Game know about these things. Have actually took them weather officers out, so I don't know if they I don't know who's doing what but the bigfoots were up towards the roads and I no longer do my jeep and I look down and I'm looking at one looking at me. I'm like. The first thing it pops in my head is windy up on the road. Second thing is are they Are they waiting for me?

22:21 You know? It's like you don't know. But I actually took a buddy of mine in July, and I've took him five or six times, but we got to watch one. It was no more than a hundred probably one hundred feet away, and we were able to watch it very clearly through his scope on his rifle, and it just pivoted in between two trees. What did your buddy say? Yep, this is the second time I've heard this. It looks like a dog, and I'm like, Aaron, how tall is that tree? There ain't no six seven foot dogs hanging up ninety two miles up in the Rocky mountains.

23:12 So he got to see one finally. Then Ley I went up again two more times. This where I got interesting. This is the last of the year here, I mean there in September, I find. A really interesting bigfoot. It's onen't like I've. Never seen before very round head, thin round head, big eyes. I mean this one you can see his pupils, and I watched him for quite a while. But this one corner of the woods. This is my fifth or sixth year.

23:55 I started noticing this. By this one stump that I sit and watch him by. Now we're in the Rocky Mountains. The side of the mountain is made of rocks basically in some dirt. So I'm sitting next to the stump and I start getting tired. And I started getting real tired, like I'm going. To pass out. I'm like, what's I've felt this before? I go up the hill fifteen twenty feet, it goes away. I go back down there, you start feeling it again, and I don't know what it is. It's odorless. You can't see it, but it will. It'll make you feel like. The first thing I thought was carbon dioxide. But I have never gotten a reading down there with any carbon dioxide, so I don't. I don't know why. On that same trip, I was down by the in the creek a little more, leaving them apples. And when I came up out of the creek and I'm walking up the Loger road to get back to my jeep on the other side of the gate.

25:08 I do this a lot. I turn around, make sure you don't nobody's fallowing, the type deal. But this time when I turned around, I wasn't looking. I looked up and on the side of the mountain was like two peel shaped eggs shaped. Whatever, glowing. Spaceships for some time, and I sat there and watched them. It felt like five minutes, but it wasn't. I pulled out my phone, zoomed in, took a picture of it, and you know, the only thing I could think of was that movie Fire in the Sky, and.

25:53 I was like, I Am not going to be that guy. No one's going to hear me speam out here. And I jumped my jeet and. Got the hell out there and kept looking up to make sure it wasn't following me. This was in September. At the end, I goes there because the bigfoots during hunting season bows first, then rifle. They congregate there in large groups. They hide there from the hunters. One it's gated, so. The hunters just stay one in. They got to walk in. So that I think they understand all that, and they hide there during hunting. They come from wherever, but it's it's stick with them. So September, I see the glowing object, I get out of there.

26:45 I come back at the end of October. I'm standing in the same place, same time of day. Of course, it's a month different, uh, And the landscape looks different because the tamarack trees are pine news all turned yellow, and there seemed to be a good amount of them across the canyon where I had seen this uflu looking thing. So I take a picture, four pictures of that side of that mountain, trying to debunk what I had seen, and I can't. But what I've never done before was blow up those pictures. In that picture and I'll send it to you. There are two I don't know how.

27:32 I don't. I want to say bigfoots, but. I don't know what they are that are taller than the tamarack trees. There's one on the left and one on the far. Right in that picture, and I cannot explain it. It does make no sense to me because there's no way something that large could move through the forest with out causing carnage. And now here in May I'm getting ready to go back up. Yes, you are involved, with some intense stuff going up there.

28:16 My friend, I'm telling you bigfoot. I never thought this in a million years. I'm one hundred percent positive there something to do with aliens. But yet where they hear? Are we the aliens? I don't know. I've never dealt with UFO garbage and any of that, any of that before. But the second picture I ever took of a bigfoot, it was trying to hide by it behind a tree though it's way too small, and it's leaning out looking at me, and in its hand you can see it plain as day, looks like a giant TV remote and it's white. You can see its leg on the other side of the tree. You can see its head and body looking at me with this white looking TV remote.

29:16 What do you think they may have been using that for? Oh? I have there the whole uh floating thing. It's correct, but it's not. Like I've seen some stuff online, and it reminded me of the terminator. I think they hang by water because. This is what it looked like. It looked like a giant blob of water with eyes, and that's I believe they move through the waterways. I mean, I know people have gotten pictures of some going over mountains in that, but I don't. I've never found a rogue one. I've droven sixty miles from that spot and found them at a alpine lake in back of the lake, a group of seven. I mean they're they're up in the rocky mountains, but there there's definitely different species. But I know they know each other because I see them intertwined.

30:41 You mentioned that I think you're trying to allude to a show with three girls and dominion. Was that a cartoon? Yeah, that's what's the one our posts. No, No, they're a minion, those little yell things. The actually three girls, the. Actual minion's cartoon. Oh yeah, okay, so. The movie movie The Dads knows it, that's what that one. I call them yetti because they are so freaking hairy and so large.

31:24 That one. I told you that, like parked itself. It was because I always after I see him, I get a picture. I'll go back because I get vacation, not vacation, but three day weekends every third week. As I work nine hour. Days, I go back every other week and I take that picture with me and I measure and he was at ten foot. That's why I told him when I see that little the other little creatures, like did he come out of him? You know? I just I don't know. It makes no sense to me why it would just park itself and show me it's button back. It makes no sense. There's, like you said, there's so much going on there. I don't know what's going on there, you know.

32:16 And I, like I said, I've been trying and trying to communicate with them. I got a picture of a furface giving me the sign that I've been giving them. This whole time. But is it minicking me? Or does it understand? You were talking about signs earlier. Can you explain what you mean by hand and arm signals. Kind of like how the Indians did hand and arm signals. Like you learned in the military, hand in arm signals. Like when I told them I. See you, you know, with my hands, they back back into the woods. So that's how I started thinking they understand because I've done I've tooken an easel out there with drawings and everything, trying to get anything while they're sitting there staring and watching, and I can't get anything.

33:21 It's so frustrating. It's like I'll never solve my mystery. This this next question. You're going to be like, well, why would you ask that? It's pretty obvious, but I think it might lead to an interesting answer. Why would you not share how you figured out by accident to see them? Why would I not share that? Right? I don't think the world's ready. I wasn't.

34:10 That's actually I didn't think that was going to be the answer. That's that's that's really interesting to him. I was like, I'm ninety nine percent sure it was going to be that you were trying to protect them, But that the world isn't ready is incredible. That's an incredible answer, dude. I I the Bigfoot thing. I was fine with, love doing it, love being up there. And like I said, they've never they looked pissed off. But again, I don't know if that's the way they always look, but they've never tried any violence. And they and I've been in groups up to eleven and you know, they're watched me, and I'm getting nervous as hell.

34:54 They could bum rush me. There's no way, you know what I mean, there's they know they can take me, but they don't. And you mean eleven humans, eleven bigfoot eleven Bigfoot. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, they're all staring at me. And that's what I'm saying. It's they know, they know they could get you know, they're they're agile. They I would have to run up out of the canyon. I'm not going to give fire, you know before they're all over you. But they don't. They never any kind of It blows me away sometimes because I mean, my my first four years, my right or my left leg as I was used to shake uncontrollably as I was getting ready to park to get out and go down, I used to have to grab it and stop it because I was I was just like, this is going to be the day they're going to be mad, you know.

35:56 I just it was fear. Man, what happened when you took the fish and game official out there? That was early in the the big footing time, and it was after I seen as the second picture I took. As the one holding the like remote. And I took this lady up there very nice. I mean they met me in the woods and went up.

36:40 They wouldn't I did my my calls and stuff and my sign. They would not come out at all. I didn't see anything went back the next day. They come out. Now. I used to think they're only going to come out for one person, but I've proven that wrong because my buddy has seen them now a couple of times, and his. Two kids have seen him. We took them up there this last July. There's a tree I want to say cedar. It's an old growth down by that crick and these creatures stick their.

37:29 Kids in that tree. I've got pictures of them. I mean clear from the logging road. You look out to the canyon. It's right there in the creek and you're kind of eye level with that tree. It's a good sized tree and you can see him in there. I've watched them. I got a picture of one and it looks that's pretty incredible. The Bigfoot act different in any way when they were younger, young children present.

38:14 More shy actually, because I had to do a little corhote kind of had to get him to show themselves. Had do some extra calls just to get them. We see them when we walk down. I told them whether they were going to be. There's always several by the I call it the baby tree. Where they're hiding their kids in. There's always at least two there, and they're usually pretty good about waiting for me and you know, at least giving me a little show staring each other down for a while. And that's where my buddy, when I told you watched the scope the same right there. But when we took the kids, they're no to theme a little longer to come out, and they weren't as when it was just me and their dad.

39:09 I mean, it showed. It sucked way more than the two we seem. With the kids. Why do you think they would have shown themselves to those individuals and not to the fishing game official. Again, I'm not positive that the big foot weren't there when I was with her. I don't think i'd learned the trick yet. I'm pretty sure that's when after that is when I learned.

39:51 When I learned how to see them how Actually, yeah. I gotcha. So when you bring when you bring other individuals out there, do you then have to teach them how to see them? Or is it just a thing where their sighting happens organically? It happens organically. I took a guy from my old chop. He's older, gentleman, and he just beat cancer and he wanted to see him. So we took a trip up there and I did my calls and give him the binoclars.

40:32 I go, they usually come out right around this area. He goes, I'm watching one right now. He goes, it's standing by the tree and it's got's arm up on the tree. That's incredible. Oh, yes, other people see him. It's not a trick. Well, it isn't trick. It's very interesting to him because just in the last few days, and I mean this is gonna rabbit trail for just a minute, there's been in the UAP community. There's been info that's come out where there's an organization that has figured out how to pretty much call in uh UAPs and nine different classes of of UAPs.

41:24 And oh, I talked to move on and gave sent them my pictures and they sent them to get verified and yes they. Were that's awesome. And then move on of course, like everybody. So where's this area at right? Yeah, I'm not. Ready there bring I'm not ready to share these creatures worth the world because I feel. Like, you know, what would happen if I tell the whole world where they. Were, They'd be put in the whole. World's going to show up, and I I'm pretty sure it's some down by their part of the creek or whatever reason. It's very mossy, I believe. I don't know if they have kids, hatch kids or.

42:09 You know what. I don't know, but I think. It's a maternity ward. Parts of the spring like now right now. Of course I couldn't get up to right now. Usually the second or third week of May, sometimes right in April, but. For sure they're if here they show now. I used to think, well, you know all the time, not I've had a time six miles strat and that's the h they head trees.

42:52 Wow, we just every we just got sorry, we just got some crazy interference when you were trying to explain whatever it is you were trying to explain there, So probably that was not meant to be known to be honest. Really yeah, and all of a sudden just went like we're very crazy stuff. It happens every so often on the show, So okay, well just that's I don't think we need to repeat whatever it is. You know it's for a reason, so uh yeah, we'll just continue. Hmm. Some weird stuff, very very very weird stuff. Has there been a time in there when someone has seen them and just had a really like, I'm freaked out right now, I need need to get out of here. As everyone handled it pretty well.

43:49 No, do you know the uh low frequency sound thing infrasound? Yes, yeah, people get ill, people that have weak stomachs or ibs will need to go to the bathroom. I mean, as soon as we get down there by them, we're getting close to them, they have to leave. They have to go to the bathroom, and then they're fine up on the logging road. Then they try to come back down and they can't do it. Every time they get down closer, they have to go to the bathroom. When I first started down in that whole area, the same thing happened to me. It's like probably my fourth or fifth year.

44:39 I started taking the anti diarrhea medicine basically IBN the ibuprofen. Anyway I would take that, and but now. It doesn't affect me like it used to. So I believe that is a real thing with peopleeople that are sensitive to it. That's wild. Oh man, have you looked online to see if? And again we're keeping it super vague, so I'm not asking for the area I'm asking rather, have you checked online to see if other people have had encounters in this same location?

45:27 Yes, yes, yes they have. Cool And we can leave it at that, because if you give any more info, people could track it down. So oh no, they hid. Well yeah, I mean I've already proven this. It's not just there, Like I said, I've found him sixty miles away an alpine lake. Uh, you know, the Idaho. I'll say it. The Saint Joe National Forest is very large, and they are in more than just the area I always go to.

46:17 And the higher elevation I get, the bigger they get. There. I only see those big ones in uh end of September October down low, lower elevation. During hunting season. Because I've only seen the big ones three times going on twelve years. I mean the ten footers I call them again, I call them Yetti's because it looks like a fur coat and they just shaved out where their face is and they got very distinct noses.

46:57 Have you found that having these interactions and encounter out there in that area has also affected your life at home in any way? It's affected my health really, I'll tell you that. Well, of course it's effect I mean, oh yeah, I mean going on, like I said, going on my twelfth year, and I mean in the last it just every year keeps something else keeps happening that shouldn't be happening. That's how I feel. No, I totally get it. I mean, there's so many people in this field where out of nowhere, I mean, weird stuff starts happening, happening physically. But you're saying this, these type of things are also happening to you after you started going to these areas where there's bigfoot and et cetera.

47:54 No, I mean that's all great till then wow, and then every year it just keeps getting something different. It was on I think it was I think the eighth year after I seen the first alien looking thing. I'm sitting at home and I look out across. The field and I had my camera with me, and I lifted up and I. Seen an ORB and that orb came. I will say, oh geez, and cruel. As a marksmanship instructor in the Marine Corps, I should know yardage. I watched that orb come five hundred yards across the road and come up in the and I'm watching it to the phone.

48:47 I go outside. It's the the. ORB team is kind of it looks like it's checking me out, and I can't see it with my naked eye, but when I got. Close, sir, it was like soup. You could feel energy, not like your hair. Would stand up like electricity, but just you could just feel energy. And I got a great picture of it. It's basketball size and it's like violet in color.

49:28 Do you feel like you ever have communication with the Bigfoot in any way while you're at home? No? Okay, no, you know, I thought that little weird alien guy when he first stared at me, like it whatever it was, it. Just popped in my head. It's trying to talk to me. But that's the first thing it came to my head when I seen it. The way it looked at me is like it was trying to talk to me. But I don't think I'm that guy, you know what I mean? I don't. I mean, I yeah, I'm not that guy.

50:09 What what do you mean by you're not that guy? People? I believe some people are more in tune to that kind of thing. Sure, my in tune is them. I mean I I can kind of find him easy, just kind of like a gift almost. If they're there, I can find them, right, That's what I'm trying to say. Do you have any advice for people that might be wanting to try to find their own area where there is a bigfoot and have interactions.

50:51 Anywhere near water, whether it be a creek, river, but it's got to be a canyon. I'm sure it's for game. You know, it's a game. Has to come by the water, and then you know they can they did. They do this triangle thing where they just hoot and holler. Back and forth and they just chase it into one another. But yeah, I. Think personally thirty five hundred feet elevation because that's where I first found them at. That's where I first found tracks.

51:32 I mean, that's all. I can just tell you about the Rocky mountain Sasquatch, you know what I mean. I haven't gone to in the Washington or anywhere else. And did it. I've only done in Idaho. And these people that tell you, you know, they're we've seen it, but we don't follow it, follow it. Why would we want to follow it? Why wouldn't you? I mean it, I would follow it. I've tried following them. I got a story of one. They because they uh you know, gold and uh pie Wright are close to each other, right in these bigfoot, these this particular group, I guess I should say they are great faces.

52:25 Uh. They live in that mountain on the other side of the creek. How I know this is because there's pirate a lot pie write back in there. And when the bigfoot after I thought I was out smart in him, he was out smart to me. And I was running around down to the creek. I meet him there. He doubled back. I went back up on the road, looked across canyon areas walking down log road. When I yelled at. It, it stopped and turned, pivoted on its leg, stopped and turned and looked at me. It's black black. They're all all up there, coal black, blacker than night.

53:06 And but their faces are different. Some have furfaces, there's gray faces. I seen one this last summer that had They're all black, but one had white around its mouth and weird ears. So I don't know what that's about. That's this summer's first time I seen it. Do you think of them more as some lost form of human or lost form of ape or something? Just it's completely different. I look at them as an advanced civilization, more advanced than we are.

53:58 We can't turn our tells them to a blobb of water again. With just their size alone, I mean, don't get me wrong, they're all not you know, ten foot, not at all. They're five foot, six foot, seven foot. But if they wanted to hurt us. They would. I mean, I've given them eleven years of opportunity. If you so, think about all the time you've spent out there for those eleven years, how much total time do you think you've actually had being able to see them?

54:52 How much time? Well? How many like hours? Yeah, I mean if it would be measured in minutes or hours. Or well I usually go six times a year for a week and looking at them every day. So but you don't say, uh, I see what you're saying. Hours actually looking at them and them looking at me, I would have to say at least twenty four. Well, is this also an area where you have to be careful of other predators besides in this area?

55:42 Yes, we'll get into this area. Yeah. I don't want to refer to it as being spooky, because it's not, but one part. Of it is. And uh cougar lah I don't know why. How how often do you going to see a cougar? Oh? But for whatever reason, I see him a year there. Then I'm sitting in embarnment. You know. Could unless they got babies, they're not gonna bother you. A moose. Moose is a big threat.

56:22 They're very lucky and if you're in their area. They don't like it. I mean I've had them. Yeah, try pushing my jeep before. And if I'm out in the woods and I see them and they see me, I get behind a tree and hope they don't start walking towards me. Yeah, that's that's why I sing to do. Some listeners won't get that. But a lot of people in New England, that's where I grew up, they will die every year because a moose will just walk up and over the car and it will crush the people to death that are inside the car. They're just yes ulous.

57:06 They don't stand how huge they're a toothpit leg giant bodied animal. Tim, this has been an extremely interesting conversation. I want to make sure that there's that you were able to share everything that you want to share today. There's anything we haven't been able to talk about yet. Oh, I did you know, listen to people, especially you know they run, they take off, or you know, they get scared, or they think they hurt a growl or maybe they have. I've never I wish I could hear a growl. I really wish i'd get a scream out of them. But I don't. Have tried and tried and tried.

57:52 I mean, I'm not going to invoke violence on them to get one, you. Know what I mean. But keep going back to that area and sit and wait. You can do the apple thing that this is just from experience. For whatever reason, they will never ever take the yellow I don't know why I always leave red. Oh yellow apple. Yeah, it is like, yeah, didn't want to see to do with it. So I stopped at IgA and got red ones and okay, well they ended up disappearing. Have you ever brought bigfoot researchers out to the area or has it just been like friends from work, et cetera.

58:42 Just friends from work. Now I've talked to all these people. The problem bigfoot researchers is none of them have ever seen a bigfoot, and if they have, it was once or they ran from one. They none of them have seen them multiple times. I don't know if anybody The only person besides me I know that scene Bigfoot as many times as me is a guy up in pre St Lake. What's that guy? Jack? All the Travel Channel people. Osborne, Jack and Kelly Osborne I believe own the Travel Channel.

59:27 They got a hold. Of me and this pre Slate guy that has a bunch of action up there too, and wanted us to go be in a show with him. But they wanted me to sign a privacy form that basically gave them all the rights to my pictures in the area. And I was like, yeah, no signing this. Oh yeah that okay, Well you always want to read those, right was that? I talked to another guy that was involved with that show. It was like Kevin Llewellyn, He's a cool guy, but he's he's from Washington, I think too. Oh yeah, there's another guy that has the same kind of accent I am in Priest Lake. And I never got to talk to him. I just they told me who he was, his name. And I know about pre s Late because I grew up in Northern Idaho and I knew it was a bigfoot hotspot. But I always wish I would have got to If I'd have signed it, I would have met him and got to go do everything.

1:00:28 But I wasn't gonna sign it. Like anybody that does what she won't have. M they never know. I was just gonna say, but I keep seeing the year after year, you know what I mean, hopefully I'm coming to the conclusion. What what would be the conclusion for all this? For you? What what would it take to I mean, you've had so much time actually being able to see them. What would be the next step? Communication?

1:01:10 Do the granite boulders quarter mile down the road? Does that have anything to do to you? Guys? Be in there, you know, just. Any kind of anything I could get out of them, gotcha? But again, when when you're looking at the bigfoot size, when you're looking at them, it's too perfect. It's it's like a machine. This is very That is the thing to think about for sure. What do you think the most important lesson you've learned so far through these eleven years have been.

1:02:00 H patience? Patience, and. You can't you just can't have fear, you know what I mean. You've got to be able to overcome it. Once you can overcome it, you can do things. You never believe you could do. And how many people have sat there and stared at a monster before? But yeah, it's hard. It is so hard.

1:02:45 Hard in that you're not. That you want to either fight or fight and you know, and that's why seventy polar bear fear that probably taken. Now, Well, you don't want to start violence something that's not being violent. I mean, it's not growling at me like you hear the people say, it's not show an aggression. They're just stare at you. M Tim, There's been there's there's just a lot to learn from this one. I just want to say thank you for spending some time to share what you've learned so far. I'm sure that you will keep going out there and keep experiencing things. Uh, definitely, you know, keep us in mind when you continue to to experience things out there in northern Idaho. But I just want to say thank you for coming on the show.

1:03:56 No problem, and uh, I'm actually trying to cabs on all of it. So when I'm done with this, I can put a book together with pictures in it, you know what I mean. It won't be drawing, they'll be pictures. That would be that would be great, we'll keep an eye out for that. Let us know when you're able to publish that. But yeah, thank you so much for coming on and I appreciate you sharing what you've experienced so far. Well, thanks for having me and you have a good weekend. Just wanted to take a minute to say thank you truly for listening to this episode of The Big Society podcast.

1:04:37 Tim's story is one of those rare encounters that leaves you thinking not just about what's out there in the woods, but about how close it might already be. Huge. Thanks to Tim for bravely sharing over decades worth of experiences and for reminding us that sometimes the hidden world wants to be seen, if only by the right people. If you enjoy this conversation, please subscribe to us on YouTube, hit the bell icons you don't miss any new episode, and share this one with a friend who's into bigfoot mysteries or just a good old story from the woods. And if you're listening on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, make sure you're following the show and if you'd be willing to leave a review, it really helps more people find us. Now. If you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot encounter, especially in northern Idaho or the Pacific Northwest. I'd love to hear from you, so please shoot me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's talk and don't forget. Sasquatch Summerfest is coming up July eleven through the twelfth at Greenwaters Park and Oakridge organ and Bigfoot Society listeners can grab a two day pass for the price of a one day pass with code BFS at checkout. Tickets are available now at www dot Sasquatch Summerfest dot com. Thanks again for being part of the Bigfoot Society. Until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might be out there And see you in the woods.