April 24, 2025

35 Years Chasing Sasquatch!

What happens when a longtime cryptid researcher walks into a forest clearing and suddenly feels like he’s not supposed to be there? In this intense and mysterious episode, we talk with Brian Seech — veteran investigator and co-founder of the Center...

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Season 1

What happens when a longtime cryptid researcher walks into a forest clearing and suddenly feels like he’s not supposed to be there? In this intense and mysterious episode, we talk with Brian Seech — veteran investigator and co-founder of the Center for Cryptozoological Studies — about the three encounters that still stick with him after 35 years of fieldwork across Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia. You’ll hear the chilling story of the “handicap shelter” at Salt Fork State Park, a massive figure that raised its arms and bared its teeth in Brady’s Run Park, and the unforgettable moment he heard the Ohio Howl firsthand in Beaver Creek. From a surprising cluster of white Bigfoot sightings to strange lights in Livermore and a terrifying energy storm over Hinsdale House, Brian reveals the patterns he’s uncovered — and the one thing that keeps him in the game after all these years.

More than a witness. More than a researcher. This is one of those episodes that lingers with you.

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's

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story isn't from a one time weekend bigfooter. It's from

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Brian Seech, a man who's spent over thirty five years

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digging through reports, wandering the forests of Pennsylvania and West

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Virginia and chasing a presence he's never quite caught. A

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silent forest, a feeling of dread, and a creature none

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of them could see, all of them felt. In this episode,

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we'll hear about the Ohio Howell, the strange white Bigfoot

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of Beaver County, and the moment Brian realized this wasn't

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just research, it was personal. Stay with us all right,

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Bigfoot Society, But the privilege of talking to Brian Seech

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today from out there in West Virginia. He heads up

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the Center for Cryptozoological Studies. He's been investigating Bigfoot in

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other cryptids for over thirty five years. I've been wanting

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to talk to Brian on the podcast for a while.

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Now we finally got it to work out, So welcome

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to the show.

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Brian. How's it going today?

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Oh it's about great though, Thanks for having me.

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Oh yeah, no, I mean, we were talking before we

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started rolling that we've actually we've met in person at

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Monsterfest when Small Town Monsters had their their get together

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and we had we had a good little chat back then.

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But it's good to have you on the show finally.

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Oh yeah, definitely.

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I was looking forward to, so, Brian, when we have

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an individual like yourself on the show, where you've you've

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been in this field for just I mean, we just

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said it over thirty five years. That's a long long time.

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So I'd love to start. You know, what was it

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that first got you into going after Bigfoot and other

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cryptids to begin with?

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Yeah? Sure, so so basically, you know, I grew up

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in the seventies, Okay, grew up in the seventies watching

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things like Leonard Nimoy in search of all the documentaries,

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you know, Legend of Balgy Creek, Call, all the ones

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that were out there. And I was always a big

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sci fi geek too, so I was always interested in monsters.

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And when I found out later on because I'm originally

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from Aliquipa, Pennsylvania and we just moved to Weirton, West Virginia,

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so I would watch a show called a Chila Theater

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with Chili Billy Cardilly, and I always especially like all

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of the monster shows, especially anything about Bigfoot, and just

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from there when I met my wife and you know,

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we got married, she had an interest too in all

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the unexplained, So we formed our first group. Actually we

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were married in eighty five. Our first group was formed

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in eighty six, which was Q acronym q CUE Center

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for Explaining Events. Later on we added our newer group

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in twenty twelve, which was the Center for Cryptozoological Studies CCS.

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We got that group because we wanted to focus more onencryptives.

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Now we still have Q and Q. When we formed

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it in eighty six, we formed it to be a

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clearinghouse of all all unexplaining mother b UFOs that you know,

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Bigfoot ghosts. But we went into the into CCS in

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twenty twelve to try to get more encryptied reports in general,

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not just Bigfoot, but.

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Such such a history.

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So most of a lot of your research has taken

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place in Pennsylvania over the years, is that right?

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Yeah, the bulk of Pennsylvania, some in the eastern Ohio

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and then now also now in the Panhandle of western

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north excuse me, the northern Panhandle of West Virginia, but

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the bulk of it, like about eighty percent was in Pennsylvania.

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Gotcha.

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So when you were let's let's say we'll talk about

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Pennsylvania for a little bit and specifically Bigfoot. You know,

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over the years, were there any investigations that you were

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involved with or any memorable you know, you're out in

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the field, you're you're investigating a sighting and and is

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something pretty cool happened?

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Well? We, uh, one of the apartments, the more interesting

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ones we had was uh and I'm sure you've heard that,

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you know the place Salt Fork State Park. Oh yeah,

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over and over again in uh, you know, having people

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talk about bigfoot. So we we were there for one

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of uh. At the time, it was don Keating holding

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the conferences. Uh. So we had a couple of our members.

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We were at the conference coming back from the conference,

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and about five of our members were at a place

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called the Handicap Shelter. They were already there, so that myself,

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my wife, Terry, and Dave and carry Rupert. They came

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with us from the conference. So we went to meet

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up with every you know, our other our other group.

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So we we pull into this this area, and it's

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called the handicap shelter. And so Terry and I get out,

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and then Dave and carry get out all at the

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same time. Okay, And honestly, honestly, God.

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When we we got out of those cars, okay, we

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all almost stopped suddenly and like looked at each other,

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and we we were hit with this feeling.

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You know, some call it maybe in for sound, you know, hey,

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maybe we were zapped, you know, things like that. But

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we all stopped and looked, looked at each other, and

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and Dave and I looked at each other and we said, hey,

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day something something's off here. And we had been to

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that that shelter numerous times, okay, but we got out

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of those cars and it was like this something hit

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us that said, wow, we shouldn't be here. It was

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this feeling of dread, this this sense that that something

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wasn't right. So we got we got out of the

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cars and we walked it underneath this this the big

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handicaped shelter there. And as soon as we got there,

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one of our members said, something something is off tonight.

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They felt it too, okay, they they felt that the

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woods will you know, the woods were deadly found. This

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is probably about like ten thirty seven o'clock at night,

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and we're all just looking at each other and they said,

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something's off. Something feels really impressive here. It almost feels

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like you're being waked again. They didn't see anything, they

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didn't hear anything when they were there. They just felt something.

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So David and I went back to the cars, got

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our I got my night no Dave got his night vision,

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and I got my parabolic and we walked around the area.

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We walked up and down the parking lot, and we

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just felt like we felt something was watching us, that

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something I just didn't want us there. We've only ever

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felt that. I felt that one other time slightly up

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in oil City at a park two mile run, when

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as soon as we were getting into the woods, you

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literally stopped. You felt like there was literally something watching you,

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staring at you. You felt very, very uncomfortable. Those two

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instances there were through the instances where we could say, hey,

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there might have actually been something there. We also heard

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in twenty twelve Terry and I and Dave and Kerry

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Rupert also they've been with us, who are really good

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friends for probably I think sixteen seventeen years we heard

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the Ohio how down at Beaver Creek State Park. And

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I was and as we had talked very briefly before,

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I was on the several small Town Monsters episodes, and

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the latest one was Bigfoot Decoded Layer of the Sasquatch,

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and that was down at Beaver Creek State Park. And

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that's where it happened at Beaver Creek State Park. But

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it was a long drawing out how and if you know,

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anyone would go on to be a for our website

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and type in the Ohio how, that's that's what we heard,

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the Ohio how. We were actually on that property when

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I was a member of the PA Bigfoot Society and

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we were on that property, myself and several other researchers,

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and that was in Wellsville, Ohio, which was not that

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far from Beaver Cree State Park. So those were probably

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the three of the instances where, you know, out of

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all the instances, although you know, we were out, you know,

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out there on night ops or you know, just hiking

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through the woods, three of the instances where the only

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time I could really say there might have might have

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been something, there would have been those three.

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Instances interesting and that we were talking about that this

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small Town Monsters episode of Bigfoot to coda that you

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were involved recently.

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It's it's really really good.

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And I'm going to have the link in the description

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so that I would hope everyone listening to this checks

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it out afterwards if they haven't already. But it really

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allows you to see, you know, what it is that

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you were dealing with out there in that area, which

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is is really cool. Have you been fortunate enough to

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have any visuals during your time investigating of Bigfoot or

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anything that you think may have been a close call

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at all?

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No, I can honestly say I have never seen anything this.

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This is the why that I'm still in it while

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my wife is stilling it. We want to see something

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before we you know, right off into the sunset instead

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to speak. This is why I do it. I remember

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in the seventies sitting and watching my Sterious Monsters and

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the lady sitting sitting in the window and the arm

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comes through the window, and I'm sure you saw that

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many times, and that just got me hooked. And just

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for that little kid there sitting there watching it being fast,

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I'm like, wow, if these things are real, I want

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to see one that would mean everything to me. That

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would probably, and my wife doesn't believe me. Should I

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see one, I may be done with bigfooting, because this

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is the reason I'm in it. I'm never going to

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prove it to the world, you know, unless you know,

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I would accidentally happen to hit it like Harry and

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the Henderson's and then put it on my roof or something.

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But I'm never going to prove to anybody that exists,

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no matter what I could do. So I have to

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prove it to myself. And that's why I'm still in it.

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I want to see something. I have a lot of

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good friends who've seen them, and it's just like, you know,

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I never have. And it's like all the time and

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effort that my wife and I and our group and

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our organization has put into it and we haven't had

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any visual Sometimes it's like, Wow, some of these people

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just go out or you know, they'll be driving down

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the road, this thing will run in front of them,

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by by by dumb luck. You know, they see something,

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and then we're putting all this time and effort and nothing.

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It's it does get frustrating. I will say that.

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It's such an interesting thing because I am well five

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years into this podcast, but focused on Bigfoot specifically. I

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would say we're probably getting close to like two years

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and I'm I'm our Like, my thing now is I

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just want, honestly, I just want to have some sort

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of visual I just need. I need to get past

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it and to hear you talk as well. I mean,

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I might be trying to have that for a very

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long time. It's a possibility, but it is kind of like,

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I don't know what it is, but it's especially when

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you hear so many people talk about it, you know.

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I talked to so many people on this show, all

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different parts of the country, and it's like, man, it

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just feels like if I put myself in the right

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area and maybe I don't have electronics, maybe it will happen,

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you know, the right intention. How are you guys, when

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you guys go out with your group, how are you

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set up? Are you going out with cameras and in

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different things? Are you going out kind of you know, undercover,

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with not a lot of electronics or how are you prepared?

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Probably I would guess probably maybe half and a half.

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There are times we just go hiking. We go hiking

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in areas that have had encounters. Now, if we go

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on like an investigation, we're usually almost always carrying cameras

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or parabolics. We're trying to document, you know, we're trying

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to document what we see, hopefully we see something. But

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if we're just out of hiking, we're normally not carrying

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all that equipment. We're we do carry like a camera,

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but we won't a lot of times we don't have

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them on because we kind of I want hopefully this

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thing seeing us just hiking through the woods, you know,

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not you know, you have cameras on you, but there

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we try to try to conceal them a little bit,

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bring them out every once in a while. But but

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when we're on like any kind of investigation or a

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night off, yeah, we have all of our stuff with us, Stefan,

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and maybe, as you said to you what you just said,

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and I've thought a lot of times, you know, let's

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just go out night a couple of times and not

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have anything with us, just you know, we would never

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be able to prove what we saw. But if it

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would spur an encounter, then I think it would, you know,

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it would be worth it. The time we heard the

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Ohio how we were actually above Beaver Creek and at

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the campground, and we were just finishing up a like

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a Halloween weekend for the kids and stuff there. And

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so it was about one thirty two in the morning

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that we were saying good night to Ruperts and we

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heard how we weren't prepared at all. I mean we

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were getting ready to go to bed and just one

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long drawn out how it was in the would have

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been in the valley below it, and we weren't prepared. Now,

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if we were not bet if we were sitting up

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there with you know, with our with our parabolic and

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our paper recorder, we probably nothing. Probably what happened, right,

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But yeah, sometimes it's almost like a cruel hand of

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fake here. It's like, you know, after all this, after

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all the time and money, after we have a huge job.

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We call our library the s Files. We've had that

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since nineteen eighty six, and we collect as many newspaper articles, magazines, books,

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old newsletters. We have a bunch of old researcher They

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give us old material that's very hard to find. We

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work with doctor Paul Johnson. He's the second longest bigfoot

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UFO researcher in Pennsylvania and he's been doing it since

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the seventies, so you know, he's he's given us most

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of his material, and its stuff's hard to find, you know,

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And it's just with all this stuff, you know, you

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read about how these people just like some chant, you know,

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even though they'll be walking into the woods, boom, something

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pops off or something throws a rock at them. It's

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just you and I know you've heard you know, you've

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read probably one hundred I've read thousands of encounters since

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the seventies. I used to I used to have a

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little collection in the seventies and then right right you know,

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maybe around I was maybe fourteen fifteen, and I've gotten

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rid of some of it. This collection would be even

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bigger now, which which seemed almost impossible. But so much

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out there, so many things, so many people have seen

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these things for years, and it's documented, and as you said,

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all across the United States. You know, we mainly focus PA,

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Eastern Ohio, in the Panhandle, West Virginia, just three states.

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And but yeah, you've done it all, so you've heard

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all the stories yourself.

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I can't imagine what that library must be like. It

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must be just just massive and irreplaceable for sure. I

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mean there's certain people I think about in the field.

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Now you're one of them, but I think of people

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like Stan Gordon, like his library must be massive as well.

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But you know there is you mentioned. You know, you've

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read all these reports, you know, for so many years,

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and I'm sure that you've found some interesting patterns between

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the different witness reports that you've read. Have you noticed

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any patterns over the years that usually the person is

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or maybe different patterns between witnesses, like a common thread

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at all when you've been reading these reports.

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Well, especially like a lot of the ones we get, uh,

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can be very simple. They're driving down you know, our

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road at night and one of these creatures just runs

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in front of them. I mean, people said, hey, what

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what's the best way to go look for bigfoots? Some say,

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you know, you know, hey, go out in the middle

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of the woods, do this, do this, blah blah blah.

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Sometimes I say, hey, just drive down all these dark

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roads that it has lightings. You're just as apt to

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see maybe to see it. Have something run across then

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that have them come to you, you know, maybe by accident.

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And if you do, you know, you read enough of

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their reports the reports can be redundant, like even out

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west to out east, even the same patterns, almost the

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same behaviors with these creatures do. One of the more

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interesting reports we got that we got was one of

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the actually one of the first funds that we actually

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we actually took here Beaver in Beaver County. So it

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was it a place called Brad's Run Park and it

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was after a after a storm. There was two ladies

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that were underneath the shelter the storm went by. They

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get on their horses and they're riding up the trail

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to the woods and they they see either left, let

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you know, off to their left, they see something that

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looked like it was crouching, and it got up and

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it stood up and and the really cool interesting thing

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about this is this creature, I think it was a

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dark brown creature. It put its hands in the air okay,

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and it showed its teeth okay. And of course they

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were scared in their horses. They just they just went

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straight up the hill to the house. So years later, uh,

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you know, I always watched Finding Bigfoot, and of course

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I'm sure you you know you watched it, and there

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was an episode about their rang Pendeck in so I

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and one of the the eyewitnesses he's and the the

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the rang pen ran pendick are smaller four or five

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foot taul creatures. This creature when he saw it, it

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put its hands over his head and it growled at him.

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Now you want to talk about similarities from Pennsylvania to Sumatra.

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Difference in size, but they both have the same pattern.

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They put their hands in their hands in the air

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and they grow out at them. When I saw that,

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I mean I got goosebumps. I'm like, wow, our very

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first report we took it and its behaviors mimicked this

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irang pendick. Don't you think that was pretty cool? I

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thought that was pretty cool. I really did. I was like, wow,

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you know.

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It's stuff like that.

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It just blows my mind, right, I mean, so an

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example like I took ever report really close to my

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let's say bay in Iowa, like very close the few

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nights ago, to the point where it's like I can

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easily drive there and investigate the area, which has never

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happened to me. And the person who shared the report

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was saying how there was something that was surrounding them

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in the woods and it was making a clicking noise,

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and I was like, that's weird. I've never heard that,

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and it kind of made me be like, Okay, this

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is very strange. And then literally the next day I

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did an interview with a couple from North Georgia and

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one of the main things They're like, yeah, the bigfoot

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around here make a clicking.

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Noise, and I was like, what in the world.

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So it's these patterns, And there's another pattern that I

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want to ask you if you've ever noticed yourself. It's

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really on my mind right now because I've been noticing

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a lot of it in different reports.

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I'm getting.

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It seems that more often than not, these individuals that

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will have a encounter with a bigfoot right before or

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in let's say, a week before or days before, they've

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had some really intense traumatic event happen where it's either

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they've lost a loved one, they've gotten divorced, just things

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that really really really shake you up. And then they're like,

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you know what, forget this, I'm going into the woods,

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I'm getting away from it, and boom they run into

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a bigfoot. Is that anything that you've noticed over the years,

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or maybe just a pattern that I picked up myself recently.

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Well, we've had a couple, a couple of people who've

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talked about one woman was going through a difficult time

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in her life and one of these creatures. And this

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lady's actually interviewed on the Buck Eyed Bigfoot series. Sure,

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and and I was able to provide them. Uh. Two

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eyewitnesses who who both a woman and a man who

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did not know each other. One was in h one

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saw a white creature in Beaver Creek State Park, Okay

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where we filmed that and uh. The other was in

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Beaver County, which uh, which I grew up in. In

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Beaver County butts up against Columbiana County in Ohio. So

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if you were like look at a map, you would

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see Columbia County Beaver Creek, and right across from it

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is uh is Beaver County. And they both and both

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of these eyewitnesses interviews are in the Buck Eye Bigfoot.

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I I think it's it. The episode was like towards

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one of the ends about the white creature, about the

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white Bayfoot, and they both saw the same thing and

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we were able. Unfortunately, my wife and I were not

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able to the eyewitnesses wanted to meet each other, so

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we had to get permission from each of them to say, hey,

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we have another eyewitness who we believe might have seen

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the same thing. Would you be able to meet up

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with them? And unfortunately, we had something that came up

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and we could not do it. But we still said, okay,

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here here's the names. And they met up. And I

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wish we could have could have just sat there and

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listened to both of them. It's just we were something

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came up and we were just unable to make it.

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And they both described the same thing. And so the

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lady in Beaver County had seen it, I believe about

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three times over a twenty year period. Okay, and I

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could that might not be exact, you know, and the

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gentleman saw it once, but you know, basically the seven

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foot tall creature almost like the hair was almost covering

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its face and it just watched them. And as far

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as how far distance, maybe by how the crow flies,

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you know what I mean, if the crow could flash

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straight between both of them, both of the the where

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it was seen, I would bet you maybe eight miles

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maybe maybe eight miles between both of their sightings, and

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over a period of time. Now you know, the gentleman

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had seen it last but even that was it was

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several years ago. It's been a while, but it's not

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like the one lady saw it and then he sees

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it right after. But no, so in that area, in

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our in our general area, my wife and I have

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done I believe it's been seven white slash gray creature

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sightings and in the whole area in general. Now this

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would be Beaver County, this would be Columbiana County, Lawrence County, Pennsylvania.

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And even here in Hancock there was two which was

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take They were taken by somebody else. These were white

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creatures possibly and how we say possibly one of the

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highest concentration of white creature sightings in the United States.

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It's really weird. We just we dubbed them whitey of

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course catchy nickname, but that's what we haven't had any

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sightings of this creature for years, but there has been

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at least about eleven sightings now. Even Stan Gordon took

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one in Beaver County in nineteen seventy three where this

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creature was holding a glowing sphere and it walked into

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the woods. After these girls had seen there was some

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lights in the sky. So I thought that was pretty

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interesting too.

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So that's that's extremely interesting. So a few questions for

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you about that. Do you think that this might just

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be the same white haired creature that's being seen or

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there could be multiples of it? Are the sighting reports

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similar or different enough that you're like, Okay, there might

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be more than one white haired creature here.

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All of them except one one, they're all they all

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just they all describe them about the same size, about

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seven foot close to seven foot, okay. And the other

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lady who saw one in Dartington, which which was close

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to uh, actually actually do the other thing. I forgot

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to mention actually when I told you about with the

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one creature put its hands over it, that was a

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dark creature well up the hill. And years later, years later,

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I'm talking forty years later, there was also a white

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creature scene within that mile radius, okay, and from from

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where Brady's run is to Darlington. Another lady saw a

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white creature too, and it almost had like she said,

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almost looks like a Pyrenees like the like where the

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uh the hair almost covered his eyes type thing. So uh,

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they were all about seven foot now where Deviatehs is.

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There was one in Newcastle, which is in Lawrence County.

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It was a four foot tall small creature and the guy,

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the guy could see its eyes. So was there two?

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You know? Was there not only there's big one, but

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a smaller one. But the smaller one was only seen

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one time. So but for the most part, almost ninety

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percent consistent. It was almost looked like the same height

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and everything. Okay, except for the four foot tall one,

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which I don't know if could that have been an

459
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:34.880
offspring or just a total I don't know.

460
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:41.359
That is extreme, extremely weird. This the area is the

461
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.079
area that you're taking reports from. Have you found that

462
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.559
most witnesses are are describing them the same way? And

463
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.880
what I mean by that is like, you know how

464
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.720
some witnesses will say, well, it's face looked kind of

465
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:57.519
more like an ape, where it's face looked more like

466
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:02.720
a Neanderthal or you know, just a hairy guy you

467
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:05.119
would see on the street. Are they described me the

468
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:09.519
same way or are there maybe different types of ones

469
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:12.319
that have UH looks that are not the same.

470
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:19.640
Most most of the ones that we've taken are more

471
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:25.640
or or ape like. Now, there was one in seventy three, okay,

472
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:30.079
also in Beaver County that we took UH now obviously

473
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.880
we took we took this. We took this one years

474
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:36.240
years later because I was only eight in seventy three.

475
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.839
So and this one's kind of interesting too. This was

476
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:43.079
at a trailer court, which you know, we know that

477
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:45.759
you're in pa Big Full Love trailer course. For some reason,

478
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:53.559
this this this kid was playing in his room and

479
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:57.039
he looks to his left. He sees movement, and there

480
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.440
was movement out of and so in the window this

481
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.240
looks like this. This creature was walking by and it stopped,

482
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.759
sees him, you know, turns sees him playing on the floor.

483
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:13.519
And this is the weird part. He says, brying, this

484
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:18.400
thing turned and then it's eyes glowed red. He says,

485
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:24.920
the eyes weren't red until he saw the kid. Then

486
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:29.480
he said they glowed red. And the other we took

487
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:32.440
one of the report in uh uh. This is in

488
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:36.599
West Warren County. This was obviously way years later, maybe

489
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:42.200
in the two thousand sometimes. Where the gentleman and his girlfriend,

490
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:44.359
well let's just say its being it's a family show.

491
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:47.599
They were just resting in the woods, Okay, just resting

492
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.400
in the woods. Well, they get up from resting in

493
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:56.720
the woods and they start walking and the gentleman walks,

494
00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:59.640
he almost runs into this big flot I guess the

495
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.319
way he he was describing. And as he got up

496
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:04.799
and he was walking, and this creature must not have

497
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.480
seen him and was kind of looking around distracted, and

498
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:11.599
it stopped in front of him, and it was he says,

499
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:17.759
I was close enough to it that it stopped and

500
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:20.559
it looked at me. He says, it looked at me,

501
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:25.759
and I almost saw the the the eyes went red.

502
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.599
They didn't glow red, they turned red, almost like the

503
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.240
blood was coming in them. And then this creature screamed

504
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.200
at him, and he said the force was almost like

505
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:38.880
a He was hit with this force of the screen

506
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:43.799
and it turned one way, and the gentleman and his girlfriend,

507
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.640
which would be his wife, turned and ran the other way.

508
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:52.920
Now this thing was startled. Okay, so I'm thinking when

509
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:55.559
we get here in PA, when we get some of

510
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:59.240
these sightings of glowing eyes, now we don't get you know,

511
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:04.079
we've only got we haven't got a lot. But traditionally

512
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.240
PA has had a decent amount, especially in the seventies,

513
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:11.519
where these creatured eyes were glowing red self luminous red. Actually,

514
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.200
So could could that just be some kind of a

515
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:20.880
defense mechanism, you know that? And the odor I mean,

516
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:22.960
you know, let's face it, you know me, and you

517
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:26.079
walk outside, we see a giant eight there. If that

518
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:28.680
ain't scary enough, now, now let's make its eyes blows

519
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.799
glow red, you know even more. Could it be some

520
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:35.279
kind of a defense mechanism. And I'm not saying it is,

521
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:36.559
I'm just asking I could it be?

522
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:42.319
We don't know, man, that that is really wild.

523
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:46.640
I can't imagine seeing that where and the eyes just

524
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:48.160
start glowing red?

525
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:49.480
Wild wild stuff.

526
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.480
You know, I'm gonna I'm going to open it up

527
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.920
to you know, you've you've had more than just bigfoot

528
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:01.119
over the years that you've been involved with. So the

529
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:05.079
question for you is thinking about all the years, what

530
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:10.200
is the strangest thing that you've experienced out in the field.

531
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.839
There's something that was like, man, I don't I don't

532
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:15.039
get what was going on there.

533
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:23.680
We we've researched a couple of times, which actually on

534
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:29.359
another thing on YouTube called a A Paranormal Life The

535
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:33.119
Lost the Lost Files it's in our episode is called

536
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:37.240
the s Files. Actually, we researched a place called Livermore,

537
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:44.400
which is in Long Indiana. Westmoreland water and there's a trail,

538
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.200
the pen Ohio Trail that goes through and there's a

539
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.319
cemetery up there, the Livermore Cemetery. There was a town Livermore,

540
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.119
but it was actually it actually the flooded and there

541
00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.000
was there was a flood that went through there and

542
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.359
it killed a lot of the people. And they say

543
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.240
there's ghosts and spirits there. Well, we were doing about

544
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:08.360
bigfoot investigation, bigfoot investigation, and we had two teams. One

545
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:13.039
team was by this bridge it went over the Kanama River,

546
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:17.599
and myself and two others were down at least a

547
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:20.920
mile maybe a mile and a half from them, and

548
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.639
we see this light best described as like a white

549
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:28.679
spere spheerish light, and it was kind of bobbing up

550
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.199
and down almost like we say it almost like almost

551
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:37.360
like a railroad a railroad worker with his lantern. And

552
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.280
how they had the lanterns and they look like they

553
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.719
bob and they swing, and that's what this thing looked like.

554
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:46.039
And it got closer to us. That's it did not

555
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:48.159
really show up on tape, which is the weirdest thing

556
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:51.400
even looking back at it. They just put this episode

557
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.679
out about a month ago you can't really see it.

558
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:57.840
It's just it's you could see it more with your eyes,

559
00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:59.360
but once you try to put a camera up to

560
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.519
you really couldn't see it. And we went back there

561
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.599
another time and we saw some spheres. We saw one

562
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.599
it looked like a white light going over the uh

563
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:15.199
it's like a valley, there's a river there, and it

564
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.599
looked like it's split in two. Actually one split into two,

565
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.480
and then it just like moved out of sight. So

566
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.880
those are some of the weirdest things that we've seen

567
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.559
as some of these light spheres. Now that I know

568
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.960
you're probably getting more of that now too. We started

569
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:36.639
to research this, oh jeez, about five or six years

570
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.400
ago with a project we call Light Anomaly Exploration, which

571
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:44.880
is LA l A E. And we have a frequency

572
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.719
machine and we try to we use that frequency machine

573
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:51.800
to see if we can maybe contact with these spheres.

574
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.079
Are okay. Now, we've had we've had a couple instances

575
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:57.880
where that one I just told you about Livermore, we

576
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:01.719
took it there and we had one of the weirdest

577
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.039
instances we ever had in the field when we were

578
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:08.079
up in Hinsdale, Hinsdale, New York at the Hinsdale House. Now,

579
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:10.119
I don't know, you're probably you may not be familiar

580
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.199
with it. It's a haunted house. It's an old house

581
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.599
that they believe is, you know, haunted, and the land

582
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:21.480
around it was there was it was Indian land. So

583
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:25.719
there was a pond. There's a haunted house. There's a pond, okay,

584
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.639
And across the pond there's electrical wires across the pond.

585
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:35.679
That night, there was a heavy geomagnetic storm that night

586
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.559
and we were there. We were playing our frequencies, and

587
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:43.000
honest to god, there was about fifteen of us. Okay, Unfortunately,

588
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.400
we were all just sitting there playing these frequencies and

589
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:52.960
nobody actually had like a camera. We weren't videotaping it, okay,

590
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:57.039
So above us it was a I don't know if

591
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.840
you ever watched the series Stranger Things.

592
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:04.760
Oh yeah, you remember the part where up in the

593
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:08.039
sky it looks like the clouds are moving around in

594
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.239
a circle and there's something coming out of the clouds.

595
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:14.480
Oh yeah, Honest to god, that's what happened. I mean,

596
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.840
we're all looking and in that cloud it looked like

597
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:21.079
there was there was like lightning inside the cloud. And

598
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.360
then this appendage looked like it came down like a

599
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:28.280
black cloud. Now I think it may have. It may

600
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:33.159
have been some kind of a weird weather formation, Okay,

601
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:38.119
But and I don't know if if there's anything that

602
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.000
if it was a cause and effect, like if all

603
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.599
those factors with the water and the electrical line over

604
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:49.079
it and the geomagnetic storm and our frequency is being projected,

605
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.360
I don't know. If I'm not saying we caused it,

606
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:56.880
but I don't know if it enhanced what might have

607
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:00.960
been happening. But if it only lasted about maybe ten

608
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:05.119
twelve seconds and it just dissipated. But it was the

609
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:08.239
weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life, honestly. And

610
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:12.079
in that area too, there have been big foot sightings.

611
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.239
They have these little creatures, so they're edgedly called the

612
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:19.239
puck wat jezy. You probably heard about those things. I

613
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:23.159
know New York has them to Massachusetts, I think. And

614
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:29.360
we didn't see any puckwadge's or anything. But there was

615
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.360
a bunch of us, not us, not myself and my wife.

616
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.000
They walked down this road. It's like there's a dirt road.

617
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.840
There's a couple of houses, but not a lot. So

618
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.480
we see these it was night. It was maybe eleven

619
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:44.559
twelve o'clock. So about five guys walk down there. All

620
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:48.039
of a sudden, we hear this noise and these lights

621
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.320
are these slash lights are moving like like they're running,

622
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:55.280
like they're actually running from something. And they get to

623
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:59.079
us and they said, we saw something was in the woods,

624
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:03.320
something big was in the woods. So I went up,

625
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:05.880
you know, went up to the trail there they have

626
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:09.400
this Indian thing, it's called the offering tree. You offer,

627
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:12.159
you know, make offerings to this tree to the Native

628
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.760
American spirits. And I sat up there hoping to maybe,

629
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.280
you know, this thing apparently would have ran in that direction,

630
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.079
but I didn't see anything. You got got a little weird,

631
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.239
you know, one of those times it seemed a little

632
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.639
weird to me because you know, you couldn't say anything there, okay,

633
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:31.880
but it did seem a little weird, you know, maybe

634
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:36.039
with my imagination. But so that was probably the weirdest,

635
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:40.480
one of the weirdest nights we've had with I wish

636
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:43.760
we could read now. I have a frequency written down

637
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:48.239
what we you know, and again I don't know offhand

638
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:50.559
what it is, but it's written down in the book

639
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:56.280
that if those common I mean, the pond's still there,

640
00:39:56.599 --> 00:40:02.320
the wires right over the pond still. If we if

641
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.679
we would ever get back up there with the precise

642
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:10.639
ah major geomagnetic storm who knows, and play that same

643
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:13.920
frequency couldn't happen again, and that would be an interesting experiment.

644
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.000
But the chances of you know, us having all of

645
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:21.440
those factors going back up there would be astronomical, you know,

646
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:23.039
but it's very interesting, I.

647
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:28.000
Think, Yeah, I mean that that's fascinating it. You know,

648
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:33.440
did you ever try to use that same frequency again

649
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:35.440
in any other way?

650
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.079
Yeah, we did try. We did try a couple other times,

651
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:42.719
but just never nothing really happened. We've we've had our

652
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:47.199
machine partly for about three or four years. Unfortunately, the

653
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:48.960
the amount of times we've been able to use it

654
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.039
going out and use it because it's we call them

655
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.480
gelling is what the name of it it is. It's

656
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.079
it's a modified uh it's got modified plasma balls in

657
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:00.840
it and it's hooked up to a little spooky to

658
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:05.559
a frequency machine. It was like a prototype. Mate, there's

659
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.079
only one of the one other one out there. This

660
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:11.000
inventor got made it for us. I think we went

661
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:14.320
to do some kind of a tinkering now, and you

662
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:16.519
got to get this thing and you have to have

663
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:19.239
like a power powers source with it and hook it up.

664
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:20.760
And it's a pain in the buzz to use it,

665
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.480
really is, you know. But we hope to do some

666
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:26.519
more this year. I hope to do some more. I

667
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:28.440
haven't been able to do it here where we live.

668
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.840
We live we call it's a holler, you know, hollow

669
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:35.159
holler down here, and we have a creek right beside us,

670
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:42.360
and we're in a bowl. And when this water's flowing, ah,

671
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.039
when it's flowing it's a small creek, it can be

672
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.440
a raging creak. So we may do something like that

673
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:53.480
when it's when the water the energy is flowing a lot,

674
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.639
you know what I mean. Then we might try if

675
00:41:56.679 --> 00:42:00.880
we can get that a certain set of circumstances and

676
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.960
we know when there's going to be a major geomagnetic storm,

677
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.000
try it down here, maybe see what happens.

678
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.079
No, I think that that's a cool idea.

679
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:14.159
Yeah, I'm very out of my knowledge base when it

680
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.440
comes to this. But this type of machine could it

681
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:25.079
also be used to create the frequencies that are very

682
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:28.920
low on the scale, like infrasound. Or I might be

683
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.639
thinking of something completely different.

684
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:36.880
Yeah, we don't. Most of the frequencies are higher frequencies.

685
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:43.559
Now I saw somebody or somewhere there is there is

686
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.480
something out there that oh I think it was on

687
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:51.039
expedition Bigfoot. Maybe about low frequency infrasound that they can

688
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:53.840
do that and track it. But it's expensive piece of equipment,

689
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:56.519
and a lot of these TV shows you don't know,

690
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.880
you don't really know what one hundred percent to believe?

691
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.440
Is it all show? Is there some truth to it?

692
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.480
I was lucky I got I was lucky to be

693
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:13.000
on if you remember Monsters and Mysteries in America, Oh yeah, yeah,

694
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:16.599
I was lucky enough to be on the episodes two

695
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:19.199
very so very briefly, you wouldn't even know. I was

696
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:21.440
on another one about the Devil Monkey, which I was

697
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.960
on a lot. But I talked to the producer called

698
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:26.440
me and I was talking to him and I said, Hey,

699
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:28.599
I got to ask you guys, something. Are all these

700
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:33.039
what's you're showing? There are these real? These? He says, Well,

701
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:38.280
he goes, the sightings are real. He says, but you

702
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:42.119
know we exaggerate, right, I said, what is Yeah? We

703
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:46.320
exaggerate for ratings. So like there was that one. There

704
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:48.199
was an episode about the sheep squatch. I think I

705
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:53.039
don't know if you remember that one, and well the

706
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.400
kid might have actually seen one, but they like trump

707
00:43:56.480 --> 00:43:59.400
that up, like this creature was near, it was snarl

708
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.360
when I got close to me, and it was and

709
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:06.960
to hype it up. They might have told the guys,

710
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:11.199
you know, come on, you know, okay, you saw this

711
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.360
creature about, you know, sixty yards away and it looked

712
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.400
at you and run away. We want you to hype

713
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:18.159
it up. We want you to say it was snarling

714
00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:20.239
at you, and it was the younger kid, So I

715
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.079
think that's what he did. So when about the sense,

716
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:26.800
you know, we sensationalize things, right, And I like to

717
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:28.960
tell that story because it does show you a little

718
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.679
bit of the inner workings. And believe me, I was,

719
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:33.719
like I said, I was on like three episodes, but

720
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:38.440
only one that I really had any airtime too. And

721
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:40.840
it was ironically it was about something I didn't even

722
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:43.079
really know much about. It was the Devil Monkey. I

723
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.599
had to do some research on it. But so don't

724
00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:50.519
always like yeah, and I think most people don't believe

725
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.519
what they see on TV. I mean they probably do.

726
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:57.599
Even like Expedition Bigfoot. I've heard pros and cons about that, okay,

727
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:03.559
and whether it's totally re or parts of it are real,

728
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:09.159
but they sensationalized other parts. You just you know, you

729
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:11.440
get you already get the more cynical you get and

730
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:14.519
skeptical about a lot of the stuff that's on TV.

731
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:18.079
And that's you know, like to me, Monster quest was

732
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:22.480
the gold standard. Okay. They tried and they put as

733
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:26.400
much stuff, and they tried to scientifically, you know, give

734
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:28.760
you proof of these things. Put put it, put it,

735
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.519
put them on spectrographs and sounds and things like that,

736
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:36.079
and you know, they they've really you know, Doug Hychek's

737
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:41.639
you know, the gentleman who did it. And since that show,

738
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:46.360
I believe all of these have gone downhill. It's you know,

739
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:49.000
monster Questures mainly sightings and stuff. But they did try

740
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.840
to use scientific terms and you know, and and Douce

741
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.639
you know, put science in it. Most of most of

742
00:45:54.679 --> 00:46:00.639
the ones now are just you know, more like skeptic.

743
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.920
You got to be skeptical about it. And it's a

744
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:06.239
shame because you you know, like like Maulder and Scully,

745
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.440
I want to believe, right you know.

746
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:13.199
No exactly, you know, the whole the Monster Quest shows.

747
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.559
I mean, if listeners don't don't know what I'm talking about,

748
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.639
you can watch. You can find a few of them,

749
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:24.679
I believe on YouTube. Yeah, they're out there, and they're

750
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:27.679
just so good. Oh man, they're so good, and it's

751
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:29.480
that kind of thing. And you know, I watch those

752
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:32.320
old ones and I can't wait until Doug gets gets

753
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:37.440
his new legend meat science to doc releast sometime in

754
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:41.760
the future, after they get some everything wrapped up, I

755
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:43.840
guess you could say. But it's going to be worth

756
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:48.480
it for sure. Hmm, good good stuff.

757
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:51.840
Yeah, yeah, you're going back to that legend me science.

758
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.599
You know, the the rumors are there's supposed to be

759
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:02.840
something really tangible coming out. I don't know exactly what

760
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:05.679
that is, but there's a buzz, I would say, a

761
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:10.599
buzz that they're supposed to show something, that it's a

762
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.639
new piece of evidence or something to prove the existence

763
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:19.360
of Bigfoot. Now, I hope so, because I don't know.

764
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:21.480
I think, you know, for all of us talking to

765
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.199
eat you know e DNA, I don't really know what's

766
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:27.639
happening with that. I'm not Unfortunately, I'm not seeing a

767
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:32.840
lawn new coming out about Bigfoot now. And also I

768
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:37.519
will preface that is I don't follow like Bigfoot as

769
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:39.159
much as I used to. I mean I used to

770
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.119
be up on it and stuff, but now I'm not.

771
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.400
I'm kind of I don't want to say I'm drifting

772
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:46.760
away from it, but after doing the same thing all

773
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.679
the time, you kind of need a break, Like, you know,

774
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.320
we we get presentations on different topics too. I'm actually

775
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:58.880
giving one this Saturday, and Grard Ohio on The Offman

776
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:03.719
another wing Enter Ease of the Oile Valley. So it's

777
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.480
good to kind of break from the Bigfoot and do

778
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:10.599
different things. Also, but I think this field needs needs

779
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:12.119
a shot, It needs an infusion.

780
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:16.760
It does. Yeah, yeah, no, it does, you agree.

781
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:18.880
Yeah, And I mean there's stuff going on behind the

782
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:22.599
scenes that I hear about, but I think that there's

783
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:26.079
stuff being worked on when it comes to evidence, and

784
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:29.639
it's it's just it's gonna take maybe a few years

785
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:31.880
to get it all wrapped up, but I think it

786
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:36.000
is coming. We are kind of used to seeing these

787
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:40.920
TV shows now where it's like one episode, oh my goodness,

788
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:44.119
we found like five different amazing pieces of evidence and

789
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:45.159
we're not even gonna.

790
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:45.800
Talk about it at all.

791
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:51.000
But it's like the real stuff takes it can take years, right,

792
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:52.840
and we just gotta we just gotta wait it out,

793
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:53.360
you know.

794
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:56.159
Yeah, Because what I what I was told too, is

795
00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:58.760
it that there may be a couple of groups out

796
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:02.599
there that they're waiting to present their material for like

797
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:07.000
a scientific science, scientific pure journal. Right if you have

798
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:08.000
you heard that too.

799
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:14.440
I there's definitely groups out there that are not in

800
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.599
the limelight and they're just kind of holding back until

801
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:18.800
they have the right stuff.

802
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:20.199
So yeah, I've heard similar things.

803
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:27.239
Yeah, yeah, And it's even like like like I've heard

804
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.920
that people say, you know what we we there are

805
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:37.400
they people have seen like pictures, you know, you know, videos,

806
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:45.519
pictures of almost the ship could almost be irreputable proof

807
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:48.360
of big play, although I don't, you know, other than

808
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:53.480
us getting obviously the body is the first thing that's

809
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:59.039
that goes without saying that maybe getting some solid DNA evidence.

810
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:06.320
It's almost like we're not that much further along at

811
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:08.239
least as far as what's put out there. And I

812
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:10.199
always kind of do like to give it that little

813
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.119
as far as what's put out there. Now we know

814
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.480
even the Olympic Project has done with their nests, you know,

815
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:20.880
the nesting sites that they've had. Eventually, if they are,

816
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:27.559
I'm sure they're probably getting this stuff together and they

817
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:29.800
will trying to you know, present as to scientists and

818
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:34.400
then hopefully it's hopefully it would be made public eventually.

819
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:38.239
So I hope. I mean, like I said, we can

820
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:40.039
always cross our fingers.

821
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:42.880
Yeah, I mean I'm not even sure.

822
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:48.960
I mean, with with the technology going as crazy as

823
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.639
is going right now with AI stuff, and I mean

824
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:57.679
it's getting to the point where like I think that

825
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.800
I because I use AI stuff in my thumbnails, and

826
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.000
I'm I feel like I can you know, I'm pretty

827
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:06.119
good with that stuff. But like there are some videos

828
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:10.920
coming out, some Bigfoot videos where like it has the

829
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:13.239
first few seconds of oh my goodness, and then it's like,

830
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.000
oh yeah, obviously it's AI, but it gets you for

831
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:18.039
a few seconds. It's like, man, just think in a

832
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:21.639
few years, uh, it's going to be like type in

833
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:26.559
Make Me the Patterson Given film, and literally AI is

834
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:29.280
going to be able to show you its version of

835
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:30.079
the PG film.

836
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:32.480
It's going to look exactly like it. I can just

837
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:33.199
see that coming.

838
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:36.559
But do you have any thoughts about you know, being

839
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:40.440
someone who has seen the last thirty thirty five years,

840
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.599
what do you think, you know, in current day, do

841
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:48.519
you think it would take some kind of physical specimen

842
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:53.039
or do you think we're we're okay where you know,

843
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:56.360
if they say, yeah, we have we have the DNA proof,

844
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:57.360
do you think that's enough.

845
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.440
I think it's always going to take the physical specimen,

846
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.320
hopefully alive. I hate. I hate this, I always say,

847
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.559
I you know, some people get mad said I would

848
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:11.239
hate to hate to have one killed to prove it.

849
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:15.079
I really would. It would be a sad day, even

850
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:18.480
though it could validate the whole species. I just wouldn't

851
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:20.960
want to see these things. Now if one was found dead,

852
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.440
that's you know, that's kind of different. I mean. But

853
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:30.199
and the second, probably the second best thing you probably

854
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.639
could get would be the DNA. After if you can't

855
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:35.039
have a body, if you can get some DNA some

856
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:41.119
of course blood samples and I mean that you know,

857
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.159
or once captured. I mean, those are probably the only

858
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:49.039
three things that could ever prove I think. You know,

859
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:53.159
cryptozoology is the study of hidden their unknown animals known

860
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:56.840
to science. But you know, even though it's not a

861
00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:00.440
lot of people call it a pseudoscience. You know, well,

862
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:06.400
this pseudoscience technically, if these things are real, could bring

863
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:09.519
you a specimen alive or dead, you know, perferably alive,

864
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.960
not just big food, these other things too, So technically,

865
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:16.199
if that's a pseudoscience by bringing you then I guess

866
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:21.159
I'm you know, en cryptozoology is a pseudoscience, because I

867
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:23.320
don't think it is. That can be as sarcastic, but

868
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:25.480
if you're looking for a you know, a physical specimen

869
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.159
of something, you can prove it. That's science, buddy.

870
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:28.519
Right.

871
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:34.559
Would you would you say that most of the reports

872
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:38.639
you receive are Bigfoot related or what do you say

873
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.719
is probably the top cryptid that you get the most

874
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:42.639
sightings about?

875
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:45.280
Oh yeah, it's definitely. It's definitely big food. I mean

876
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:52.480
by a huge margin. I mean we've gotten some Dogmann reports,

877
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:59.119
we've gotten some identity reports, some thunderbird reports, but it's

878
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:03.199
mainly big Foot. I mean, you know, he's kinged king cryptid, right,

879
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:04.360
got his own beef jerkey?

880
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:04.599
Come on?

881
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:09.079
Oh yeah, yeah, it's wild stuff. And I mean you

882
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.559
bring up an interesting point. I've never thought of the well,

883
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:15.559
I guess I have thought of this, but it doesn't come.

884
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:18.000
I don't think of it a lot of the potential

885
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:22.639
of a live specimen being captured and what that would entail.

886
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:29.039
I'm definitely not saying people should try that, because man,

887
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:31.800
it might not be a thing you come back from

888
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:36.880
unless I mean, I don't even know how you would start.

889
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:41.519
I mean, maybe a younger specimen that would be easier,

890
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:48.880
or I don't know, Man, I'm not the expert when

891
00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:51.320
it comes to going down that road. Probably don't want

892
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:55.639
to go down it, but it might be a valid thing,

893
00:54:56.639 --> 00:54:58.880
especially I don't know if if there could even be

894
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:06.199
like a some kind of tranquilizer dart involved, probably would

895
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:06.639
take a lot.

896
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:10.840
The thing is is most I mean a lot of

897
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:13.199
people do, and I don't think it's a lot of

898
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:15.960
people think that the government knows what they are and

899
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:20.800
they have a specimen, and a lot of people laugh

900
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.440
and say, oh, it's just a conspiracy. But if you

901
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:27.599
think about it, you know, we have our government, and

902
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:30.000
we have all these state parks and people going into

903
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:36.719
these state parks and things like that, and if they

904
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:39.679
want to know what these creatures can do or track

905
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:43.400
them or I don't think that's totally whack of like people,

906
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:47.360
Some people think maybe the government has them. You know,

907
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:50.480
there was always those rumors went out Saint Helen's Blue

908
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:56.559
that they had found that bigfoot there again, rumors you know,

909
00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:59.039
they said, you know, a couple of helicopters or a

910
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:04.199
helicopter went out the big thing on the tarp. Again.

911
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:07.679
You hear so much after all these years, you hear

912
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:13.280
so many different stories. You just don't know what to believe.

913
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.199
And even if there's a kernel or truth in some

914
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:19.519
of them, you know, it does make you think, I mean,

915
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:23.039
especially you know, do they have one, do they have

916
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:27.440
a specimen? I mean you would think that you know,

917
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:31.800
they have satellites. You know, they could, you know, over

918
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:35.719
an Iran then they can if somebody I had told

919
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.079
her reading the newspaper, they could see what he's reading

920
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:44.159
right from his satellites. So why couldn't they again, you know,

921
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:47.440
if in an area that they knew, if they had

922
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:51.599
several satellites and they had command crews ready, is it

923
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:53.519
out of the question. I don't think it's that out

924
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:54.079
of the question.

925
00:56:55.079 --> 00:57:00.559
I think another really interesting thing that keeps happening is

926
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:06.519
how these different towns in the Pacific Northwest keep declaring

927
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:11.239
like town is, let's say, Bigfoot Safe Zone, you're gonna

928
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:14.320
get fined if you mess around type deal. I think

929
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:16.639
you know you're you're probably on the right track where

930
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:19.880
you know, the government has more info than we think,

931
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:24.719
maybe even some stuff at a few bases. I mean

932
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:27.760
there's bases out in the Pacific Northwest where they have

933
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:31.920
sashquatch encounters all the time, thinking of Fort Lewis McCord.

934
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:38.480
Just crazy crazy stuff, you know, they it's not out

935
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:40.480
of the question, I think to think yet, let's try

936
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:43.519
to take one of these things and you know, hold

937
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:46.360
it on base, see what happens, study it. I mean,

938
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:48.400
just that just sounds like something we would do. But

939
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.360
you know, the people haven't reached out to me yet.

940
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But you know, if you're listening and you know information,

941
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:58.719
you're always welcome to reach out and we can keep

942
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:02.239
you anonymous. But you know, Brian, it has been it's

943
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:05.400
been fun chatting with you tonight about all sorts of

944
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.960
things to do in your neck of the woods, to

945
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.639
do with Bigfoot and things. I want to make sure

946
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:16.440
you know in our last minutes that there's nothing else

947
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.039
that you needed to that you wanted to make sure

948
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:22.559
that you had shared or you know, if that's fine.

949
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.960
Then maybe take a few minutes to to remind people

950
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:28.400
how they can keep up to what you're doing. If

951
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.119
there's a way to reach out to you, if you've

952
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:34.440
got a website for your you know, Center for Cryptozoological

953
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:35.760
Studies all that good stuff.

954
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:39.480
Yeah, we have a couple of Facebook pages we have

955
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:44.719
you just type in out a Center for Cryptozoological Studies

956
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:47.920
and also that's on Facebook and then also centerf I

957
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:50.599
was playing events on Facebook. Or you can contact me

958
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:56.719
Brian Seeg on Facebook or email us at Center for

959
00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:01.000
Cryptostudies at gmail dot com. I have a yeah, real

960
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:04.360
long but yeah, and we you know, we don't give

961
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:09.360
out names. Everything's confidential. I mean, we could put your

962
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:12.199
sighting out, but we wouldn't put like, hey, you know

963
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:15.960
I was on father, you know, Farmer Jim's property and

964
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:19.079
Leek township. We don't. We won't give an exact coordinates

965
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:21.519
or anything. But we do like to get at least

966
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:25.639
the base bare bone of the sighting out to spur

967
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:29.960
other sightings and maybe, you know, maybe it would spur

968
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:33.599
that one encounter we're always looking for. You never know.

969
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:38.280
Awesome, Yeah, reach out guys if you got something, But

970
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:43.960
Brian Seach. Pleasure to chat with you and we'll have

971
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:46.159
to keep in touch with you in the future. But

972
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:48.440
thanks so much for spending some time tonight.

973
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:51.599
Yeah it was fun. I look for a thing again.

974
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:52.719
Thank you for having me on.

975
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:55.000
I just wanted to take a minute to say thank

976
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you truly for listening to this episode of the Big

977
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.840
for Society podcast. Brian's story is one of relent list dedication,

978
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:04.480
chasing the unknown through foggy forests and silent valleys, searching

979
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:07.400
for something that might only ever be seen once if

980
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:10.440
you're lucky. Huge thanks to Brian Seech for opening up

981
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.920
about his decades of fieldwork and for reminding us that

982
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:15.480
sometimes the mystery is what keeps us going. And if

983
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:17.840
you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to the channel on

984
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:20.159
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988
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989
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:35.559
own Bigfoot encounter, especially in Ohio, Pennsylvania, or West Virginia,

990
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.719
shoot me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

991
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992
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996
01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:59.159
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997
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:01.679
keep your eyes open and trust your gut, and never

998
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stop asking what else might be out there.

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