A 12-Year-Old Heard Something Scream Near Forks—Then Everyone Started Leaving

0:00 I got the dog with me. He was still just trembling. And I'm sitting there with my knife, steak knife, in front of the tenant with the kids in it. Two witnesses describe incidents near Forks, Washington, separated by more than 30 years. One began at a rental house bordering the woods, and the other at a Ho River campground. What was moving through the darkness around them? I'm Jeremiah Byron, and this is Bigfoot Society. All right, Bigfoot Society, welcome back to another episode. We've got the privilege of talking... to an individual, his name is Joel, about something that happened extremely recently, or it happened, something that happened recently on the western coast of Washington in the Olympic Peninsula.

0:46 You may have. Seen this account referenced to in a recent Bigfoot Society reel or short or TikTok, but thankfully Joel was open to actually coming on the show. to share what happened and we can discuss that a bit, but welcome to the show. Joel, how are you? I'm doing good. Thanks for having me. Fantastic. I mean, I have really wanted to talk to you about this. It is a, it's a fascinating account. There's definitely some discussion. So feel free to, to, to take us back to when this this happened where it happened uh how you guys got in that situation to begin with all that good.

1:32 Stuff yeah it's actually kind of an interesting story so um as i told you we're from the midwest and we were going out there for a family vacation at the end of this just this august here so we flew out there we went to mount rainier for three days prior to going to the olympic peninsula so i went to mount rainier Spent three days there, drove over to Port Angeles, actually, where we were going to stay at a rental property. That actually ended up going south as soon as we got there. So we were kind of left scrambling, trying to figure out where to go and what to do. We all pulled up our phones. It was, again, it was me and my family and then my mother and brother. We were all out there for the vacation. I'll pull up our phones. We're trying to find a place in the area to stay at.

2:22 I found a place in Forks. Didn't really know much about it at the time, obviously. I was looking on the app. They're giving a really good discount just because it was last minute. So we decided to go ahead and book that place in Forks. So we loaded the car back up, drove over to Forks, and got to the house where we were going to spend the next three days. We were just going to go around hiking in Olympic National Park and then also just along the coast there, Pacific Coast. So we got there and the house is very nice, which sounds weird, but that's kind of one of the first things that just kind of intrigued me is that like this house is relatively new, maybe five, six years old, extremely nice, big property right on the edge of town. So when I say that, right behind the house, literally directly behind, there was nothing but woods. So just acres and acres of woods. which led up into the Olympic National Park mountains. I don't know how far it went back, but it looked like it's on a map pretty darn far back. That was the first thing that I thought was really cool. We brought our stuff in, everybody got their rooms. We went into the backyard and there's a hot tub in the backyard, huge backyard fenced in. I know I sent you a few pictures. I don't know if you had a chance to look at them or not, but the very first thing that I thought was very unique was a patch of backyard so again the backyard is probably like a half an acre and on the very back side is

3:55 just a bunch of trees and that obviously would go into the woods there was a spot at the trees where it was almost it wasn't cut out it was like just a spot where nothing grew along the whole back of the yard there's obviously trees but then there was just blackberry bushes everywhere it's huge like patches of blackberry bushes this one spot there was nothing And it led into the woods and all of the grass around it was matted and bent and kind of stamped down. And it was probably about eight feet wide. And then it kind of went over a small hill, dipped back down into the woods. I'll kind of get to that in a minute because I did kind of try and walk back in there. So that was the first thing that I was like, oh, that's really weird. Me and my son have been hunting. Well, I've been hunting for like 15, 20 years. My son, he has been hunting with me just recently because he's just got to the age where he can. I know what a deer trail looks like. I know there's more than deer and in Washington, there's elk and bears and stuff, but this looked entirely different, but I'll kind of get to that in a minute.

5:01 So we kind of stayed there for those two days. So that would have been Wednesday and Thursday. And then on Friday, that was gonna be our last day there. We were gonna drive Saturday to go to a couple of other places on our way back home to go to Seattle to fly back home to the Midwest. So Friday night after a day of hiking and doing whatever we did that day, I can't exactly remember. We went into the hot tub. There's this really nice hot tub at the house. We went into the hot tub. We didn't have the jets on. So it was still very quiet. And it was probably, I don't know, 8, 830. I can't remember the exact time. It was at that moment in time where the sun has probably actually set, but it's not quite yet dark. And we're sitting in the hotel.

5:47 We're kind of just chatting, me, my wife, and my son. We're just sitting there chatting. And all of a sudden, I hear this extremely high-pitched whale scream type thing. And I tell everyone to stop talking the nicest way I could. Like, you hear that? And it happened again. And me and my son lock eyes. Obviously, we've been in the woods a lot. Never heard anything remotely like this. And we're like, what in the world was that? And then at that kind of same moment, neighbor who was probably 75 yards away, their house was a decent ways away. Their dogs just start going absolutely crazy. Their yard, you can kind of see them when you drove in, you can kind of see them. Their yard, it was all fenced in. So their dogs were just in there going nuts, barking at whatever made that noise. Um, so we were kind of just sitting there for a while, just listening, see if we would hear it again. And again, it sounded like relatively far off. Um, obviously that the sound had to make its way through the woods for us to hear it.

6:56 So I don't know exactly, maybe a hundred yards. It could have been maybe more. I don't know how far off it was, but, um, extremely loud. So we were kind of sitting there, like hearing the dogs bark in my son were very interested. We were like, I don't know what that was. That was absolutely insane. So we get out of the hot tub and we walk into the backyard. Again, it's still kind of light a little bit, not, not light, but it's not quite pitch black yet. And we walk out there and we're kind of just standing there trying to listen to anything and really over the sound of the dogs. Cause the dogs were, again, they were like almost probably a hundred inch yards away, probably not quite somewhere in the middle of 50 to a hundred yards. And, um, Their barking was also echoing. So it kind of made a lot of just background noise that would make it difficult. Unless, again, if it screamed again, it was closer and it was just extremely loud, you would have heard it. But you didn't hear anything. Again, my son said he thought he heard something. I don't know if he did or not, but he thought he heard another sound outside of the dogs barking. I couldn't verify that. So you're all like, well, that was so weird.

7:59 We went back to walk into where the hot tub is and we got back in. And I think we were just talking about it, like just chit-chatting. Again, I said my son had a prior experience in the state we live in. And he was just talking about that. And he's like, that's so weird. What the heck was that? We couldn't figure it out. And so we were sitting there. It got dark. And it was obviously a whole week. It was cloudy. I think it's probably just cloudy there all the time. Cloudy, misty. That night it wasn't raining, but it rained. Well, like misted pretty much the whole day earlier. that day earlier. And, um, so it was really dark trying to listen to what I'm trying to say is it was very dark. Couldn't really see, you could see the fence. So this house had a white fence on the backside of it and you could see the white fence, but just beyond that, you couldn't see nothing. Like, I mean, literally nothing. And we were just sitting there and all of us were just staring at the fence line.

8:57 It was like, well, if we're going to see something, it's probably going to be on the fence line. That would make the most sense. So we sat there for a little while, just kind of taking a look. There was an outbuilding on this property too that had a light. The light was like somewhat shining into the property. But again, it was so dark that if it didn't come directly into the light, you would never have seen it. So this whole time, I keep on thinking that I am seeing something on the far left corner of the property where the fence kind of comes to meet in a corner. could never fully say that I did see something. Something always, I kept on thinking I was seeing something move in that corner. And then my wife says she saw something, she thinks she did, run from that corner kind of along to the middle of the fence and then go into the woods. So that's the first thing where she said, I think I just saw something run along the fence.

9:54 I was like, oh, really? Where? We're looking over there and trying to figure out how far it ran and what would have happened. Again, it was one of those things where it's like, I think I saw that. Again, I didn't see it, so I couldn't confirm or anything like that. That's when my son starts to get kind of, I don't want to say scared, but what he said to me was, Dad, I have that feeling again like I did back in April. Because his experience that he had here was in April of this year. And I was like, okay, that's fine. We'll just pack it up and we'll go inside. So as we're doing that, we're kind of still standing there drying off. And then at that spot that I talked about earlier, the spot that was kind of open that led into the woods, he said he thought he saw something that filled in that space that looked at him and then kind of like shot back into the woods. Now, again, like I said, pitch black. You still could maybe see something large move. But again, it would always be kind of like, did I see that? You would always kind of second guess yourself because it was just so dark.

11:04 So after that moment, we're like, okay, we'll go inside. We'll grab my flashlight. We'll come outside and see if we can see anything. I always bring a little flashlight with me everywhere I go. It's a very small one. It's not very bright. So we go back inside. We kind of start getting ready for bed to be changed, all that kind of stuff. Um, we decided to go back outside, grab my flashlight. I turned it on, but I cover it with my hand. So we try and go outside quietly and I take my flashlight and I like abruptly shine it into the woods and I shined it all across the fence line. Didn't see anything. Didn't see anything move, um, at that moment in time. So like, okay. And at that moment, you kind of have to like, if you put yourself in my shoes, I'm not like a huge Bigfoot guy. I mean, I watched some podcasts, stuff like that. Um, it's still like plausible deniability or whatever the appropriate term is. Cause I never actually saw something.

11:53 So it was kind of like that. It was still like, well, I don't know. Maybe I'm just kind of going crazy. Maybe it was just some animal making some crazy noises. I don't know. Um, so that's when we realize that the window is unlockable. Well, it's kind of unlockable. So on the backside of the house, there's a window. in the living room. And it's kind of one of those houses where it has a living room, dining room and kitchen. It's kind of all one big area. And the living room had a triple window and the windows on the sides slid inward to the center of the large window. So it wasn't like they slid up or anything like that. They slid inwards and it was just a whole big vacant area. One side did lock and then the other side would not lock. And there were no screens or anything like that on the windows. And the reason it wouldn't lock is because the owner of the home, they ran their cable for their internet directly through the window.

12:49 They didn't like drill a hole in the wall and put it through the wall like you're supposed to. They just shoved it through a window. So I had a window. I had no way of locking. And like, I obviously lock my house up when I'm not there. And at night when I go to bed, I just lock the doors and the windows. So I was kind of like, well, I don't know what the heck's out there. I don't like it being unlocked just in general. So me and my son did our best to try and find something to pry or pop that window closed. I think a lot of people use like a piece of wood to put it in there. We tried to find a piece of wood. There was really nothing long enough to fit in there to keep it closed. I opened one of the closets. It sounds stupid. The only thing that I could find is the house had a built-in vacuum into the actual house. So there was like the parts of like a shop vac that you stick together and you can extend it with. that kind of like that firm plastic, that's all that was there. So if I put two of those together along with the handle of the vacuum, that would get stuck into the window and it was in the window side on an angle. So like one side was on the bottom and the other side was like kind of up on the other side of the window. Like, I don't know, maybe a foot and a half, something like that. And I put it in there and I pushed down on it to lock it in there as best as I could. That's about all I could do.

14:13 And again, I was still under the idea of like, I don't think anything's out there, but I'm not going to take any chances. So this is what I'm going to do. Now, I could not just unhook the internet because that next morning I had to register for our flight so we could fly out that following day. they didn't have a service there either. So the only thing we had was the internet there for any form of service on our cell phone. So I could not disconnect the internet. Okay. So we do that. We're ready for bed. We go lay down, we go to bed. My son's freaked out. So he wanted to sleep on the floor in our room. I was like, I don't care if I can do whatever you want. So he lays down on the floor next to my wife. We're just laying there.

14:57 I'm honestly kind of like a little turbed. I'm a little anxious. And our room as well had a massive window and also a door. I closed the blinds. Not crazy. I'm not going to keep those open. So I closed the blinds on that. But you can still kind of see light come through from the outside building that I was talking about. So it's kind of my eyes were drawn there because I'm like, well, if something comes up to the patio, the patio went all the way around the house. I'm going to see it walk through the light, possibly at least possibly see it walk through the light. So I was kind of there. just looking at that, trying to fall asleep. And then all of a sudden we hear what sounded like a stone hitting glass and heard it. I didn't, I didn't say anything, but I know me and my wife and my son were all like, what was that? And our, in our brains. And then it happened again, probably 10 seconds later. My son sits up and said, what was that? And I, Before I could say anything, my wife said, oh, that's just your uncle getting a glass of water and then setting the cup down on the counter. Obviously, it's glass cups in the house and then a stone counter. I was like, that's possible, I guess. I could kind of where I was sleeping, I could see into the kitchen as well.

16:15 And I saw no movement in the kitchen. So I was like, I said, I don't think that's it. It sounded like something hitting a window. And so my son jumps out of bed, runs out into the living room. to the kitchen and he comes back and says, no one's there. I was like, yeah, I could have told you that I didn't see anyone out there. And also it just didn't really say it sounded like that, but not really sounding like that. So, um, while he's out there, he hears another stone at the window. So again, at that moment in time, it's like, that's really weird. Like what in the world is that? Um, So we were kind of just, again, a little freaked out even more now.

16:55 Because like what in the world is throwing stones at the house? It makes no sense. No human likely is going to do something like that. That just doesn't make any sense. He comes back in. He's like, it was not. And there's no one in the kitchen. That's not what it was. Something threw something at the house. So we're like still a little freaked out. I mean, it was kind of hard to fall asleep. It's because I knew the window wasn't really closed that well. That is the. Last thing as far as overnight that was spooky, whatever you want to call it, kind of confusing or weird. My son said in the middle of the night, he thought he saw a shadow move across the door in our room. And again, can't verify it, didn't see it.

17:43 He said he thought he saw something kind of in his stupor when he woke up in the middle of the night. you know, just like walk across a light so he could kind of like it, like it blocked the light for a second, something like that. Don't know if that's the case, but that's what he said. So my alarm went off really early. We had to get up super early because I had, again, had to register the flight. And then I also, we were driving to the whole rainforest. We had to get there really early. Otherwise it gets too busy. So we were up bright and early. And I, the first thing I did, my mom and my, and my brother, they're not at all like they're, they're, brains probably would never go to Bigfoot or something like that. And they were not out there with us at the time when this all went down.

18:26 They were in their bedrooms, you know, getting ready for bed or sleeping at that time that all this happened. So they were none the wiser. And I still haven't even actually talked to them about I need to do that. I have not actually talked to them about it yet. So I was up before everyone. The first thing I did was went over to the window and And that's when I got freaked out. So I went over to the window that I, you know, barricaded and I pull up the blinds and the rod of the vacuum connection, whatever you want to call it, was completely bowed, like not like a U, but it was bowed and it was no longer propped up. It was laying flat on the inside of the window. So it was in a completely different spot and making like a half view. I was like, what in the world? Because when I put that in the window, I struggled to get it clamped down in there. So I thought that it wouldn't move.

19:33 So there was no one else up in the middle of the night at that house. And first off, no one even knew besides me and my son. I think my wife probably knew that we put that in the window. And I don't even know who would have walked over there from my family, compressed it and then pushed it down and would not have just put it away. So something was on the outside of the house, went to that window and hold that window open. I don't know how far or for what reason, but that's the only explanation that I could possibly think of. So I, I pulled it out. I showed my son and And we're just kind of like gassed, like what in the world is going on? And then, so we're all at that point, we're all kind of like getting up now. Like everyone in the house is getting up, getting dressed and ready to go. It's probably six o'clock in the morning. It's pretty early. So it was just getting light outside. My son goes outside and I don't know exactly what for.

20:32 He went out in the backyard. He comes back inside. opens up his hand. He's got three stones in his hand. They're like probably the size of like dimes or something like that. And I'm like, he's like, these are on the back porch. My wife's like, you're lying. There's no way. Like, no, I found these right where I told you they were thrown. I'm like, oh, really? Wow. That's really something else. So we did find whatever, you know, whoever threw those stones, we did find those stones. on the back porch. So we weren't losing our brains. Someone actually threw something, actually threw stones at us when we were in the house. So we were still kind of getting ready. Me and my son were still talking and trying to figure everything out.

21:15 And then we were kind of like walking in the backyard. My wife was kind of yelling us that we had to get going. We were like, hold on. And we went to the backyard and there were impressions. There were no footprints. It's a it's a drought there, I think this summer. So they had like 30% of the normal rainfall that they normally get. So they're very, very dry there this summer. So the, the, I don't know if like an actual like foot impression or not an impression, what am I looking for? Like a actual indentation into the ground would have been too visible because the ground was very firm, but we did see a long side of the house. Something came over the fence and, It walked along the house. It stopped at my mother's window so we could see the footsteps. And my son even was walking in them. He was like having to take these long strides to walk in these steps. Whatever it was, stopped at my mother's window and was like standing there because you could see all these like spots where everything was just impressed and pushed down at that one spot at the window. And I don't know if she had her window closed or open. something was standing at that moment or standing there looking inside her window. The footsteps continued across the lawn and they went over to buy the hot tub. And then they stopped as they kind

22:45 of angled in to where that window is that I was talking about earlier. So the footsteps literally led the whole way up and to that spot, they stopped and then that's where the window was that we could not lock closed. So then at that moment in time, we're like, I don't know why I didn't take it. Hindsight's always 20, 20. I was thinking, man, why did I not take, I got home. I'm like, why did I not take pictures of these indentations? Like, or actually you kind of see them in one of the pictures that I sent you. It was like one of those things at the time I was just so hectic and trying to get out of there that I was, you know, I had to just basically leave. So, I did actually walk into the woods two separate times. Me and my son, there was a river kind of close to the house. We tried to walk in the woods to get to the river.

23:34 That was a spot of the woods that was not quite as dense. You could kind of walk through there a little bit. We still couldn't make it to the river because it was kind of like a ravine. But I did walk into that spot. I think it was Thursday of that week where I was talking about earlier where it was all matted and bent down. And I walked kind of over there and in there to see if I could just see anything, any kind of tracks. This was on Thursday. I did that. And I couldn't really see anything. I kind of can't stress to you enough how bizarre that spot was. Like all of the grass just there was completely matted down. Like something went in and out of there frequently or sat there. I don't know. And then just beyond that, on the inside of the woods, it was pretty dense. Like I was not prepared. to be able to walk into the woods with any of the stuff that I had. There was kind of like a lane that went from that spot and it went over towards the house of the guy with dogs that were barking. So like whatever was back there could relatively, I mean, obviously if it's a human, it'd be a challenge, but it could relatively move through that area pretty easily. Now me and my son went back to that spot on Friday, right before we left.

24:51 And we found this branch, probably about two feet long, stuck into the ground. We were like, I know that wasn't there before when I was there on Thursday because it was kind of right in the middle of the spot there. My son pulls it out and it was in the ground like 10 inches. It was like, what the heck is this? And it wasn't like a dead branch. There was no tree that fell or anything like that. So it was just a branch randomly stuck into the ground. Like, okay, well, that's really weird. I don't know what that's about. So after that, I mean, that's really basically the story. It's nothing crazy, but it was just one of those things where it's like, I don't know what it was. It was really, really, really bizarre.

25:34 It's intense. I don't know if you heard me. Laugh. I laugh when I get nervous. I don't know if you heard that. So when I'm out in Oregon and Pacific Northwest out in the woods, I'm laughing a lot because I'm nervous as I'll get out. But for some reason, like, man, your account is just really intense. So I have a few questions for you. So how long would you estimate the indentations? Good question. Good question. Longer than, I wear a size 13. I would probably say at least that. if not maybe a little bit larger.

26:19 So like a large man's footprint, put it that way. Nothing enormous, nothing enormous. And I don't think whatever it was that walked in our lawn was huge. If it was, you know, you hear people say they can get as large as eight, 10 feet, whatever. I can't imagine something that big would have been able to get over to that window to try and open it. And if it was that big, it would have ripped that window right off. It would have had no trouble opening that window. But somebody thought it would be probably the size of a large man. Okay. How much space between the indentations you mentioned that your son had been trying to go? Yeah. So it would be like if you're 6'2, if I walked awkwardly long, not like super long, but if I took like maybe an extra footstep when I walked, Like a little bit awkwardly walking like that, that far. So like, not like a normal cadence for a larger man, a touch larger than that. One thing my son said, he kind of got all into Bigfoot after this. And he was like, you watch some video about how you said that.

27:25 I don't even know if this is true, but people find Bigfoot tracks. They're kind of more in line with one another, as opposed to humans are more like side to side. You know what I mean? I don't know if that's true. I think so. Yeah. Those tracks were like, in more of a straight line. They weren't like side by side, which I thought was really weird too. Okay. How far off the ground was your mother's window? If I were standing up as 6'2 person, it probably hit just above like your chest area on me. So like maybe four to five feet. Gotcha.

28:05 That's the beginning of the bottom of the window. okay so like i i could easily look inside so whatever it was it was my size it had absolutely no trouble looking inside. The the day before so the day let's say the the supper uh of the day before that that night when you had all that stuff happened what were you guys cooking in there. Uh, we cooked in, what did we make at night? I think we just made something cheap, like nachos or something like that. But yeah, but there were no windows were open again. It was like, uh, I'm sure you're aware of the climate there. It was like 60. So it wasn't like hot or anything. Um, I would imagine obviously if it's an animal, they could probably smell something.

28:52 Yeah. Did you mention to anyone else about what had happened after this? You mentioned you haven't even talked to your mother and. Yeah, no. Um, so actually it's funny enough, the very first night we were there, my brother smokes, he was the one at night. So it was Wednesday night. We got there, we got to the place late. Cause again, like I said, we were like kind of scrambling last minute. So we didn't get there until seven 30 on Wednesday night. He was out there after we all else went to bed and he, um, the next morning he says to my son, jokingly, of course, I heard Bigfoot last night. Um, and my son, and I don't know what my son said to him. I wasn't there when he said it to my son. Um, And I thought that was kind of funny. And then like, I think it was later that Thursday I asked my brother, I'm like, well, what did you hear? He's like, he's like, honestly, nothing I've ever heard in my life. I couldn't even explain it. Now, I take that with a grain of salt, and I'm not in any way trying to insult my brother. He doesn't go off into the woods a lot. Me and my son, again, we hunt, hear all kinds of things in the woods. I don't know if he would know what an elk would sound like. I don't think he would understand that being different than a monster or whatever.

30:05 You know what I mean? So he said that and kind of more of a joke, but he did say like, it was something like I've never heard in my life. And he said it sounded like, it's kind of weird. What was it? It's from Empire Strikes Back when they're on that frozen island, those like creatures they ride on together. Yeah, I think so. it kind of sounded like that. He said, and I was like, that's weird. Okay. I don't know. Yeah. So, so I don't know. Yeah. It was kind of interesting though. What we heard sounded nothing like that. Okay. Very interesting. So really besides that discussion, then, then you reached out to me, that would have been about it.

30:55 Yeah, I don't think, let me think about this. So just my, my daughter obviously overhears us talking about it, but she has no interest. I think that night when we kind of came in, we were talking about it. She got freaked out. So she just wanted nothing to do with it at all. And then obviously my son and I have been for the last couple of months talking about his experience as well. So that also kind of freaks her out because his is, his experience is honestly lack of a better word, worse than ours in the sense of he physically saw something um not too far from him so it's it's a different thing altogether. Absolutely and and we we talked at the beginning you're you're comfortable uh sharing that as well which we'll get to in a bit um now so i did make i have had a few people as you imagine uh reach out um And they're like, okay, let me phrase this the right way. Did you contact the Airbnb owner about this?

32:02 Good question. I did. Okay. We're very conscientious people, so we left it very clean. We messaged her when we left. She messaged us back saying thank you for leaving it clean. Okay, no problem. I told my wife, I said, you need to message her. You need to tell her that And I'm sure she knows this, whoever owns this place. I'm sure she knew that that window didn't lock. I was like, you need to tell her that that's kind of unacceptable. Like you gotta, you can't have a house that just can't be locked. That to me is like mind boggling that someone would do that. So that's the only thing that I told her. I didn't want to like, I mean, I think it would be kind of, if it were me and I'm just an average Joe and someone said, Hey, I think Bigfoot's at your house. probably going to think I'm a weirdo. Um, so I didn't, I didn't feel like that was probably appropriate.

32:58 So man, you really didn't know anything about Forks going there. Uh, well, I mean, like I obviously knew about, um, uh, Olympic peninsula being like a hotspot, right. For a Bigfoot in general Forks. Oh, I knew like Forks was like some movie or something like that for, for girls or something like that. I forget what the name of the movie is, but there's a big thing there with, uh, vampire movie um but that's it that's all i kind of knew that it was that and that it was on the far side of uh olympic national park that's really it well. To be fair twilight is also uh could be for dudes too but that's a different that's a different is that what it is is it twilight is that what.

33:42 It is is it twilight uh yeah i didn't even know that no i've been there um but that i covered that uh a few episodes back um but yeah yeah so it's crazy because it used to all be in the twilight but now it's really uh there's a lot of bigfoot stuff going in there's a actually yeah a bigfoot museum and a bigfoot store uh that tom's. Which is a bigfoot store and actually what's funny is i went to that store i bought a shirt there um And the guy there, I swear I recognized him from a YouTube video. Whoever was, yeah. I don't know the guy's name. I didn't like talk to the guy. I was like, I remember you from a video I saw before I went there. I went there. I watched a couple of like documentary type, whatever you want to call it on YouTube. And I was like, that guy looks familiar.

34:29 Yeah. He's, he's a good dude. He owns that store and in museum, good stuff. That's an intense account, even though, I mean, And you did kind of have some visuals as well. That's wild. Yeah. And again, it's one of those things where since it wasn't me, I cannot say what it was. So you said that this really affected your son, which is interesting because... Oh, sorry. And can I get the exact date for this again? I want to make sure. Yeah, it was August 28th at night.

35:11 August 28th of 2026. Yeah, so just a couple of weeks ago. Recent. Very recent. Because you've alluded to your son has had a incident happen earlier in April, but you're saying that this incident and Forks, do you think it affected him even greater or it just maybe pushed him over the edge? It So he never said what he saw in middle Wisconsin was Bigfoot. That's not the words he used. I don't remember. He called maybe, I don't know if he ever gave it a name. But I think this, in conjunction with that, kind of like figured his brain to think about Bigfoot more. And he mentioned something the other day.

36:04 What did he call it? The traveler effect or something like that. Or when you see a Bigfoot, you're more likely to see another one. I forget what it's called. He's really referring to what's called the hitchhiker effect. There we go. That's what it is. Things can in a way follow you home and weird things can happen weeks, days after that and It's kind of talked about with Skinwalker Ranch as well. Okay. But that's what, yeah, that's definitely what he's referring to. Yeah. And so this would be kind of different than that, I guess. It's his experience that he had in Wisconsin was April of this year.

36:47 Okay. Do you mind if we get into what your son had experienced in April? Sure. So it's a place we go to. I mean, it's a friend's property, right? It's in the middle of Wisconsin-ish. And, um, basically hunting land, it's like 300 acres of hunting land. You have a cabin on the property, fairly small cabin. It's basically one big room. And, um, he goes up there with his buddy to just be kids and go up there a couple of times a year, once or twice to go hunting. And he was there in April. You can't hunt in April, but they were there kind of like some cleaning up and stuff. And in. The middle of the night, he woke up, had to go to the bathroom. So there's a back door on this cabin that leads on like a elevated path to the outhouse. And so he went outside the back door and I probably won two in the morning. I don't know exactly the time, but it would have been early, early morning. He didn't go into the house, go to the bathroom, he just peed off the side of the raised walkway. As he's peeing behind him, he hears heavy breathing.

37:51 He's like, that's weird. So he turns around and says, hello, like, seeing if something will return to him. Nothing happens, just breathing heavy. So it kind of spooked him out. So he finishes up, goes back inside. He's thirsty. He goes over to the sink to get water. And they don't have water in the house. They have like old office, like little igloo cooler thing. So he's got the water and he turned sideways to a window and he's drinking the water. And out of the corner of his eye, probably, 50 feet from the house, he sees some form of humanoid object. And so they have the cabin and they also off to the side of the house, the cabin, they have another very, very small cabin. It's like the size of a shed really just meant for guys to sleep in kind of when they're hunting basically. And, um, so there's the cabin there and then the smaller cabin right next to the small cabin. It's like a little bench. And, um, That's exactly where he sees this thing. And he's drinking.

38:58 He sees it because there was moonlight. And what he said was, he actually drew me a picture. I wish I would have kept it. And I emailed it to you. It was behind the bench and it looked like a large human. So like very large human. The picture he drew me, it would have been extremely large. And the thing that The reason why he said he didn't think it was Bigfoot is because it was kind of more gray in color. It wasn't like black. He described it initially as white. I don't think it was white. I think it was just a lighter colored, what it was, gray, you know, whatever. And it didn't have like that typical big foot look of like the broad shoulders and the kind of sloping up into like a domed head. It was more human-like. And actually what he drew was kind of a more narrow head. like it was a neck with a narrower head. Obviously, I didn't see it, but this is his interpretation, his drawing of what he saw.

39:55 So he's drinking, he stops drinking, and he's literally looking at it through the window. So this is not just like a glance. This is not something running by him or anything like that. He's sitting there staring right at this thing. And then so he's like getting the goosebumps and He goes into the, again, it's kind of a one big room cabin. He's looking at it through one window. He's like, he wanted to get a different angle on it. See if he's like losing his mind. He walks over around the countertop to go to the living room and is staring at it through the other large like bay window. So he's probably looking at this thing and I don't, I have to ask him again, but I don't think it moved the whole time. He was just staring at it.

40:44 And whatever it was, didn't move. It just sat there. So I think he just ended up getting kind of freaked out and then just went back into the... When I say it's one big room, it actually, it really is. But they have a divided section where it leads off into like bunkhouse type thing, a little bunk room. So he went back in there and woke his friend up. He was like, hey, I saw something. His friend's like, okay, yeah, whatever. And he goes back to bed. So.... He was like, all right. He went back to bed and was trying to get back to sleep. And then something pounds on the house. And I don't think it was horrendously hard. It's a log cabin, so it's built pretty well. But he remembers it hitting the house, and then there was a pill bottle that would just shake.

41:31 And I think it happened two times. He woke his friend up again, but his friend fell back asleep. And I don't think after that moment in time, there was any more pounding on the wall. He felt really weird about it. He didn't want to, he told his friend, I don't think he told the dad as he just felt kind of weird about something like that. Cause like, how do you really, cause this guy's on the property for, oh man, I don't know, a very long time. So I don't know what they have or have not seen, but none of them there are afraid to go into the woods or anything like that. So I would assume probably haven't seen much there. but that's the spot where there's just tons of forest land around there. So God only knows, but, um, that's his story. Um, and that kind of really affected him. Cause again, like he physically saw something, um, didn't know what to make of it.

42:25 Oh yeah. I can only imagine, uh, what is going through his mind with that. So you mentioned it did his account. It did have a neck visibly. Yes. What he drew me, because I was asking him, because I was thinking, well, maybe it was some kind of Bigfoot or something. I don't know. What he drew looked... I don't know. I have never locked eyes on anything like this at all. It looked like... He said it was very thin. It looked very thin and had a visible neck and an oval head. I have no idea what to make out of that, but Um, the picture he drew for, for me made it look very large. Um, just kind of awkwardly shaped.

43:12 Okay. Um, I would almost say a hundred percent. It was not a big, that does not sound like a big foot to me. Yeah. That's what I was thinking too. And, um, I know he, he wasn't seeing things. I know that, um, he's been at this place quite frequently and I've been there, um, And I believe that night there was pretty, pretty good moon moonlight. So I don't, I don't see it being, and also the pounding on the wall. I mean, I don't know what you could say bear, right? But a bear is not white. I'll obviously there's, there's bears there that could maybe hit a house, but that's kind of not, I would say it more like trying to pry out a window or a door to get food as opposed to hitting a wall. It doesn't make any sense to me.

43:58 Okay. And I know you're, you don't have the drawing in front of you. You're trying to, remember it from memory um did he have any hair on that at all. I don't think he could make out that okay he could not make out facial features or or hair or anything like that it was more of like this the shape of a human much larger oval head like like you know you see someone in the dark and you can make out like their shape you can't see actual physical characteristics Right. Have you seen anything in a movie or TV show that looks similar to what your son drew?

44:40 A large alien, maybe, you know, something like that. But I mean, you know, that sounds weird, right? Like that's kind of what I would say, like the oval type head would be like an extremely large alien, which is just bizarre. That's the way I would have described it. OK, kind of like you have the cover of communion or like when you see a drawing of an alien, that basic alien. Yeah. Like, you know how you like the gray alien images. They got a big head and they got on like small body, like kind of like that, but huge, like very large. It's intense. And you said you there hasn't been a discussion with the owner of the cabin.

45:25 No, he's probably not the kind of guy that would want to discuss that. But also what's funny is my son was there recently too, probably a month or so back. And he was there with a couple other guys and one of them had a dog and they were outside late at night, probably 10 o'clock one night. All of a sudden the dog goes ballistic, just starts barking like crazy and bolts it into the woods. And they spent, I think, 20 minutes trying to find this dog in the middle of the, like at 11 o'clock at night. They finally get the dog back. I don't think the dog was like whimpering or scared or anything like that, but they got it back. And he said, it was so weird. Like no one wanted to talk about it. Nobody literally sat there and ate in silence. And then they all went to bed. That's very, really rare for them.

46:10 They're kind of like talkative people and they stay up late and that happened. And then everyone shut up and just went right to bed. Okay. That's extremely interesting. So that was, you said it was about a month ago. His actual exciting sighting was in April. Right, but the dog incident. Yeah, that would have been in July, man. I believe July. Okay, July. Gotcha. Yeah. Very, very interesting. Joel, thank you so much for sharing. Sure.

46:52 What what happened to you guys out in forks um how is everyone um you know we've talked about how it affected uh your your son um how is everyone else handling because that's a that's a bit of a traumatic experience i would say. Yeah you know it's unfortunate um i mean i fortunately i didn't see anything and i know Like maybe that makes me a wimp or something, but I don't want to, like, I don't have a desire to have that experience. I love hunting. I don't want that to be taken away from me. I mean, I, I guarantee you if I really wanted to, when we were there, if I would have sat in the living room, I had no idea when that creature came over to the window, I would have sat there with the windows up and pitch blackness and maybe could have seen something. I just, it's just not, I don't want that. So yeah, that's always kind of into the back of your mind now.

47:47 Right. Um, and I know we live in, I don't live in the woods or anything like that, but I go hunting, uh, you know, of North. So it's kind of one of those things where it's always in the back of your mind. My son's definitely more affected because of his, both of his experience. My wife, my daughter don't probably don't think about it twice. Yeah, absolutely. I would, um, it's a lot for your son to go through, as you know, uh, It hasn't affected him too much, though. Keep an eye out. He still likes to go hunting, stuff like that. He's not too afraid, but like you said, he wanted to go hunting recently here. I wasn't able to go with.

48:32 I'm like, yeah, no. Sorry. I'm just not letting it happen. If you're hunting, you're going to go hunting with me. One of those things, especially that first time, then also the second time, just the dog freaking out. It was like, I don't want you in a place where I can't be there with you, basically. Yeah, absolutely. I agree. Well, Joel, it has been just a very eye-opening conversation. Listeners, if you've had an experience like this in the Forks area, and this sounds familiar to you, and maybe you've experienced something similar, please reach out to me at BigFootSocietyGmail.com. If you've had an experience like this at any Airbnb or rental, I'd love to hear it. But Joel, thank you so much for coming on. the show today.

49:20 Sure. No problem. Welcome back to another episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. I've got the privilege of talking to Kyler here. Kyler has had an interesting experience happen in his past out there on the Olympic Peninsula. So we were able to be connected. I want to say, was it over on TikTok, Kyler? Yeah, yeah, it was on TikTok. Yep, absolutely. There's a lot of great connections that happen over on that platform, which is, you wouldn't think so, but it's actually fantastic. But thank you so much for taking some time out of your day, Kyler. I'm very interested to hear your experience that you had a while back ago out there on the Olympic Peninsula.

50:04 Yeah, absolutely. So this was a number of years ago. This was back in Uh, 1994, around April 4th. Um, and that date stuck in my head just because, uh, on our drive back, uh, from the experience that we heard over the radio about, uh, Kirkland Baden's passing. And I was a huge Nirvana fan being a 12 year old into the grunge scene in that era. So, um, you know, it was a memorable day. So I was 12 years old back then. Um, so how it all started, um, my, uh, older sister, was looking to do like a spring break camping scenario. So she's in her early 20s. She's married. She has two kids. And there's a few of us kids in the family that are outdoorsy. And she's one of them. And my older brother's one of them as well.

50:52 And she's like, why don't we go camping? And I think her husband has been fishing. And he's from the Forks area. So he's like, well, let's go up there. And the campgrounds are somewhere on the Ho River. I don't remember the name. I asked my sister if she couldn't remember either. But so it was a camping trip. I had to go up there to Forks and just hang out and have a good time. And so, you know, we drive up there and get to the campsite. I think it's like late morning is when we got there. It's kind of one of those campsites that, you know, mixed RV and tent camping. It's a pretty good size. But we actually drove out kind of towards the end of it to kind of get away from the majority of the campers. and, uh, you know, kind of have a little bit of woods to ourselves, uh, be kind of nice. But, uh, so we get there and we unpack, set the tents, set the camp, um, and, uh, you know, ate some lunch and, uh, it was, uh, it was about that time and things started to feel a little strange. Um, you know, when you, and I don't know how to explain it, but you kind of feel something watching you, it feels like, um, just that weird, eerie feeling. Nothing, nothing crazy. Just, you know, like you're in the woods, you feel like something's walking in. It's just one of the situations. Um, but, uh, my brother and his, uh, girlfriend decided to go for a walk, uh, check out some of the campsites and towards the river. And, uh,

52:22 so they left and not long after they left, it, uh, she, uh, my brother's girlfriend ended up, uh, like slipping off a log or something and spraining her ankle. And, uh, That led to a whole scenario. So I can't remember if she sprained or she broke it. I know it's, it's full up pretty fast and everybody's pretty worried, but, uh, what ended up happening is, uh, so my, my niece and nephew, they were toddler, like little, little, little kids. And, uh, and I was totally old. And, uh, so they get back to the camp and they decide that they're all going to go and take her to the, uh, leave me at the camp. alone with my niece and nephew um strange looking back yeah it's really strange i'm not sure why that happened but um so they left i don't even know where the hospital was but they were gone for hours um.

53:22 It was a long time and uh so there i am i have you know my niece and nephew there so i'm trying to entertain them and uh you know this is back in the 90s so there's no. With anybody. So I was just kind of there at the campground trying to play games with them, reading books, you know, playing dirt. And my brother's girlfriend actually brought her dog as well. And so, you know, get the fire going, you know, and hanging out with the kids or, you know, making marshmallows and that kind of thing. And I'm still kind of feeling like something's watching me. Um, but, uh, you know, shake it off to myself in my head, like, Oh no, you're in the woods, you're in the forest, you're in a different place. And it's not like I, I've never been in the woods. I grew up in the woods. So I'm pretty comfortable there, but, uh, and it wasn't like a hard time. You feeling like you gotta, you know, hide or something. It was just that constant chilling, like something was watching me. Um, so, you know, we're there, we're hanging out and, uh, The dog was there and we leased it and tied the leash off to a tree and it started freaking out, just kind of out of nowhere. Kind of, you know, when dogs, it's like they're so worried they want to bark, but they can't

54:53 really get a bark out. That kind of high-pitched, you know, yelling they kind of do when they get scared. And then it starts running around the tree. So, I start really panicking because I'm like, oh, maybe something is going on here. But of course, you know, there's no adult there or older person to talk to. And so it's just me. So, you know, I end up, you know, getting the dog, kind of bring it by me, calming it down. And I'm like, well, I got to get the kids fed. I'm going to get them in the tent. We're safe. And so I just did up some real quick dinner right there. Hot dogs over the fire. And I got the kids in bed. I sat outside the tent.

55:39 The only thing I could find really as a kind of protection device was a steak knife on those old, you know, little like six inch wooden handle serrated edge steak knife things, you know, from back then. And so I got the kids in the tent. I got the dog with me. He was still just trembling and I'm sitting there with my knife steak knife in front of the tenant with the kids in it doing my best to kind of stay calm and you know show them that I'm not scared because they're little kids you know they pick on me and stuff but yeah that's kind of how so the beginning of the escalation of the situation so here we are few hours later still no adults and i'm sitting there in front of them with my knife the dog's still freaking out and i really start to feel like you know something's happening something's going on but um eventually you know my sister her husband my brother and his girlfriend return she has her boot on and uh you know i kind of tell them what's what's going on and they can laugh it off like you know you're just in the woods, you're just scared, you know, nothing's out here, you're fine. Of course, you know, I asked her something, I was like, I grew up here, she said, okay, nothing's going on. And my brother kind

57:10 of jumped in, like, well, you know, my girlfriend heard something, and that's kind of why she fell off the log, and her ankle, and, you know, we did all kind of feel something we got here, but, you know, they all... ended up just kind of talking themselves out of it and trying to talk me out of it. But, you know, I still had that feeling. And I can kind of tell they did too, whether they wanted to do it at that time or not. But, yeah, so they're there. We're all hanging out by the fire for a little bit. Pretty exhausted because, you know, to get to Forks from where we are, it was a bit of, you know, early morning drive to get. Up there as early as we did. It takes some hours. I mean, it takes hours from anywhere in Washington to get to Forks. There's no straight way. Because, you know, the whole rainforest right there. So you kind of got to go around it in either direction. But so, you know, we decided to call it a night and get in the tent. And, you know, I eventually kind of started to fall asleep. And then I felt like I just, just fall asleep, just close my eyes. And that's kind of when we heard the first loud noise.

58:22 And it's really strange, so I don't know how to explain it, really. So it's kind of like a weird, I mean, it was high-pitched, but there was also like a low-pitched vibration. It's kind of, I don't even know how to explain it. It was kind of like a mix between like an outline, a woman screaming, and like a little rustle of like a bear growl, kind of all in one big holler. You know, like there, and you're packing that stand up and kind of It drills you right to the bone. So when I heard that, my first instinct was to kind of lie there and uh, I don't play dead, I guess, at that point. Um, but then, uh, it happened again. And, uh, that's when my sister and her husband sat straight up and, uh, you know, my sister's like, you know, we got to go, let's get out of here. And, uh, so it wasn't only that, like after we set up, like, were quiet for a second i was quiet for when you could hear what sounded like um some of the thinner like small cottonwoods or something like just being snapped and broken down like you could hear like little trees falling by little i mean they could be 20 feet tall but you know skinny trees just being just knocked over which

59:53 was kind of kind of strange and then the holler again and so at this point you know my sister's grabbing the kids We're all building out a tent. At the same time, we end up ours. You know, my brother and his girlfriend and their tent ends up being theirs as well. Obviously, they had heard what we had heard. And it's a mad dash to the car at that point. I feel like kind of everything happened at once. Kind of a quick blur of the scenario there, just getting to the car. There was no stopping to pack up or grab backpacks or sleeping bags or anything. It was just run to the car. And, uh, we actually, uh, get in the car and, you know, we all pile in.

1:00:39 It's this old yellow, uh, station wagon. And, uh, My sister's husband who's in the driver's seat was like, should we wait and see what it is? And my sister, obviously full of adrenaline, was like, no, get that out of here. And so he pulls the order. He pulls out, backs up, and we get going. And we round the corner from our site into kind of the main camping area. And we are now in a line of traffic. You know, this is the middle of the night, a full, you know, a full campground and everybody's leaving at once. So obviously the entire campground had heard what happened and it wasn't just people in tents. It was the people in RVs leaving their RVs, you know, just in their truck. They're going like it was, it was something, it was wild.

1:01:36 It was just a wild experience. So, We get out of there and, you know, driving up to Port Angeles, you know, where my sister's husband and my family, so we stayed the night there. The next day, of course, you know, my brother and my sister's husband went back and retrieved, you know, a lot of our camp gear and stuff. And it's not like a short drive. It's quite a drive from Forks. But, yeah, it was just a wild experience in that United States. I can't say exactly what it was I heard, but it was nothing that I know. And I spent a long time in the woods, even up to today. I'm in remote areas.

1:02:17 I love being outside. I've never felt like that. I've never heard anything like that. So, yeah, it was a wild experience. That is extremely intense. I mean, let's say a. Normal.... I'm trying to think of what other, so you've got other animals there. You've got like cougars and stuff like it. You hear a cougar noise or cougar scream. That's not going to make an entire campground. No. Get out of there. And I know that sounds something else. I've heard that. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, it was something that's way out of the ordinary.

1:03:02 And of course, you know, a few years after that, you know, there was talk of, oh, it was, you know, maybe some sort of animal that was experimented on or something like that. You know, all these crazy ideas that we're all kind of came up with, but I mean, you know, Bigfoot seemed the most possible, you know, plausible idea that, you know, I still don't know. I have no idea. Right. Exactly. Which, which is wild. But yeah, I mean, out there, especially you have so many things that are reported. So the, the animal being experimented, was that based on just, you guys were using your imagination or is that based on something you've actually heard out. In that area? My brother said he had heard something about it happening up there. So I don't know if it's something he was, you know, actually heard or what happened, you know, but yeah. Sure.

1:03:58 Absolutely. Yeah. The nineties were a different time. I mean, we're, we're similar in age, I can tell you that. And listeners that are younger will not get how in the 90s, I mean, you pretty much, you're a kid, you pretty much do whatever you want. You could like go out in the woods. Oh, yeah. Parents don't really care. I mean, and you had no cell phone and it was fine, right? Right. Think of how many times I almost, or so many times I almost got in a crazy situation adventures that were almost life ending. Um, it was wild. So listeners need to take that into consideration too.

1:04:42 Yeah. So how was it, or how long was it before everyone involved started telling other people what had happened? Well, I mean, we talked about it pretty much right away. Okay. We're coming back early from camp and, we stayed at my sister-in-law's husband's grandparents' house. Obviously, we're telling them all about it and why we're showing up in the wee hours of the morning with all of us. We talked about it pretty quickly. There was no platform to really go on and Oh, sure. Absolutely. And find the other people in the campground. So I'm really hoping that maybe some of your listeners out here have heard a story similar to this in the same area, around the same time frame, that might be able to come and talk about it.

1:05:49 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I hope so. I know it's not just us. Right. There are other people there. They might be listening. Who knows? But how did the grandparents... react to the story they're being told? You know, honestly, I kind of just calmed down. Yeah, gotcha. The adrenaline wore off. It was a long drive. And I was out of it. I was out of it. I mean, but really, you talk to, you know, growing up, I'm in, you know, the rural parts of Washington, you know, just where I lived growing up. And a lot of the older people you talk to you know, they know someone that, that had, had, you know, an encounter of something abnormal out in the forest, whether it was themselves or somebody they know. So I don't think, uh, I don't think they'd be too surprised.

1:06:44 Yeah. I, I would not imagine. So, especially if they spent years in that area. Um, so obvious, uh, growing up after that time period, uh, did that experience affect you in any way in your years going through high school and then after that? Well, you know, it took me a while to get back into the woods, you know. You know, I grew up, I mean, you know, the woods behind my house and I'd just go out there and play all day. And, you know, I didn't travel as deep there, you know, to the woods for a couple of years. But, yeah, it kind of affected me that way. And then, You know, as an adult, you know, with kids, you know, I feel like I was just kind of maybe a little overprotective when I take them on the porch. I still take them out because, you know, I want them to enjoy nature and love it, you know, and they do. But, you know, I think it kind of gave my anxiety like a little heightened anxiety. Even to this day when I go out, I mean, I'm still out. I go rock hunting and mushroom hunting and, you know, the thought still crosses my mind. So it just hasn't left.

1:07:59 Absolutely and obviously i mean you're you're listening to at least one uh bigfoot encounter podcast being yours truly so it sounds like you you kind of maybe you're even trying to to figure things out potential. Absolutely i'm always yeah it's you know always looking for answers trying to figure out what happened and you know it's it's funny i mean you bring up you know Forks these days and, you know, people instantly go to the Twilight. This is back when, you know, Forks was known as a forest town, you know, it's a logging town. And they had the burger joint there where you can have a big, you know, longer burger and all that stuff. So, you know, it's just finding people that are really interested in, you know, and have similar situations. I've run across some people that, you know, I've heard the screams and or the yells or you know whatever you want to call it out in the woods It's just nice to talk to people that have experienced something like that.

1:09:03 Absolutely. In your time trying to figure things out, have you actually done any research to see if you can find similar stories or any... Bigfoot accounts from other people that are currently in Forks? I haven't reached out to me in Forks. That would be a bright idea to do. I've dabbled a little bit. I've read some stories. I've watched some channels and just kind of hearing stories. It's just because I'm curious. I kind of want to know Yeah, I would love to know kind of what happened. And I think, you know, it'd be cool to kind of maybe talk to somebody that kind of works for some time. Maybe even reaching out to like the Quillette tribe or something like that would be, you know, something I might actually look into in the future just to have a conversation and hear the history of the land and what was going on in that area.

1:10:12 Yeah, I mean, it really comes down to what connections you're able to have and if you have those connections in order to try to talk to the right people. I know Forks right now has, I mean, Tom Seward has a great, right now it's like a Bigfoot gift shop, but it's turning, he's opening up a Bigfoot museum as well. It should be open very quickly. So that might be a good, person to talk to i mean there's still stuff that happens in that town today i just had an interview with a um individual that had a pretty intense experience at an airbnb somewhere in forks uh and this was just weeks ago so that one will either be out before yours or might even be on the same episode we'll see we'll see how i feel editing that day but um It's one of the most active places in North America, I would say, for Bigfoot experiences to this day. So I'm not surprised that you were getting those weird vibes and everyone was freaking out a little bit. That is not surprising to me at all.

1:11:31 Yeah, I think the story you were just talking about, I think that's kind of what clicked when I was strolling through TikTok. I saw that story. had a comment because you know that's the area that's the place that sounds pretty similar to uh to my experience you know all those years ago so um yeah absolutely and you know that you know forks being you know where it is it's kind of you know it's isolated out there there's not a lot you know on the west coast of washington once you you know start in that you know that road and it's kind of like the only town so i could see like that's where you would have experiences next to the rainforest, unless you're in the rainforest, you know, obviously we've got more experiences, but. Oh, for sure.

1:12:16 Yeah, absolutely. You know, a population out there. I could see, see why that'd be kind of a hotspot. A hundred percent. I hope that you are able to, to maybe find some answers to this. Well, I would, I would guess if, if, listeners have information, definitely leave it in the comments on YouTube. Is it a thing where you would want people to reach out to you or you'll keep an eye on the YouTube comments? Oh, yeah, they can reach out. I have my little YouTube channel. It's Beneath the Surface with Kyler. It's going to be exploring local places, just talking about history and geology.

1:13:08 and that kind of stuff but um no i'd love to hear from anybody if they can you know reach out that's great and also on instagram as well under kubi underscore potions so um it's kind of a outdoorsy adult beverage flash page. Nice awesome yeah yeah i will have those for sure people can check those out and and reach out to you and of course uh Any listeners, feel free to reach out to myself as well, bigfootsociety at gmail.com. But Kyler, thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing what you experienced back in the 90s in Forks, Washington, how that affected not only your party, but also the entire campground. I appreciate you coming on today.

1:14:00 Well, Jeremiah, thanks for having me on and letting me tell my story. This has been great. Thank you. A special thanks to both Joel and Kyler for coming on the show today. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter of your own, I would love to hear from you. You can send me an email with your encounter at bigfootsociety at gmail.com. I've come out with a free report about the top 10 Bigfoot hotspots. You can go over to bit.ly forward slash BFS report. I'm Jeremiah Byron. Thanks for listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'll see you in the woods.