March 6, 2025

A Hunter's Experiences | Oregon

Join us on Bigfoot Society as we delve into incredible firsthand accounts from Lyle, a lifelong hunter who has experienced multiple unsettling encounters with Bigfoot in Oregon. From the dense forests of the Molalla -Colton-Estacada area to the Three...

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Season 1

Join us on Bigfoot Society as we delve into incredible firsthand accounts from Lyle, a lifelong hunter who has experienced multiple unsettling encounters with Bigfoot in Oregon. From the dense forests of the Molalla -Colton-Estacada area to the Three Creeks Wilderness and beyond, Lyle recounts vivid details of his sightings and eerie incidents. Shotguns, mysterious sounds, and unexplained activity in the wilderness challenge everything he thought he knew. Subscribe and listen as we discuss these extraordinary encounters, including an intriguing connection to one of my favorite documentaries.

Resources:

Drumming for Bigfoot documentary (To the Ends of the Earth) -https://tubitv.com/movies/100018326/to-the-ends-of-the-earth-bigfoot-monster-mystery

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Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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on with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Lyle today. Lyle's an

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individual that reached out to me after hearing one of

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my Malala Area episodes from Oregon, and he said, I've

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got some things to share about the Malala Colton, Estacada area,

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and so I've been waiting to talk to Lyle for

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quite a while. But no no rhyming intended, I guess,

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But Lyle, welcome to the show. How's it going man?

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All right? Great, How are you.

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Having having a good day. We're kind of going through

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some snow, but I think you guys are out there too,

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at least a little further south and the will lam it.

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But yeah, no, we just recently had a snowstorm where

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it's still on the ground as we speak.

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Mmmm. Same here, Lyle. I think from what you were saying,

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we got a lot to talk about today. So I'm

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going to go ahead and you know, hand things right

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over to you. You know, feel free to take us

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back as far as we need to go to when

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this experience has started happening for you, and yeah, you're

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welcome to go right ahead, all.

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Right, thank you. So I'm going to start out with

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back when the first encounter happened and kind of leading

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up to that. I was raised grown up in central Oregon,

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Tumblow to be exact, went to Redmond High School. I

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had a handful of buddies that we did nothing but

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hunting fish growing up. That's all I ever did was

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hunting fish, and we always liked to go in these

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spots that was super hard to get to. We discovered

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early on in our little hunting career that the farther

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away you got from people. That's where the bigger animals

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like to hang out, bucks, bulls. When I say buck, deer,

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and elk. This was over. We'd we'd been hunting deer

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for I don't know, probably five years, four or five

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years together, and we discovered an area. This back This

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is back in the i'd say the late eighties. I

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was like sixteen years old, and we discovered an area

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on the maps. We didn't have digital this on X

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stuff and GPS's and all that. Of course we were young.

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We couldn't afford a lot of that fancier stuff. Anyways,

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we discovered a spot on the map. It was just

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south of Sisters and it was the Three Creeks Wilderness area.

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There's a Three Creeks campground and I think it set

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Three Creeks Reservoir or lake. There was one road that

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back then, there was one road that and it was

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the only road that went out into the middle of

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this wilderness area. It went about two miles out in

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which I say the middle. It was still there was

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still a lot of wilderness out beyond that. So we

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decided we were going to go up and scout it

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just before hunting seasons. So we it was me and

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two other buddies. I did not talk to them before this,

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so I'm going to try not to say their names

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because I don't know if they want me to talk

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to talk about them on this. But we went up

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and we were we decided we were going to scout

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this area see if it was someplace we'd want to

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want to hunt. Well, this road went out into this

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wilderness area, like I was saying, and at the very

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end of it, it dead ended, and then it was

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more or less like a cul de sac. I guess

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that's probably the best way to explain it. It was

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just a big round area where the road ended and

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it was cleared out. It was flat, and this place

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was super thick with the jack pines. It was jackpine

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thicket all the way around this area. So we got out,

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and just to make things a little simple, ME just

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say the three of us, we decided we're going to

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split up, and I told one of my buddies, said, well,

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will you go directly north from here and scout. My

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other buddy said, you go south, and I'm going to

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go straight east, So west would have been the exit

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out of there. So we all split up, and I

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had walked maybe only one hundred, one hundred and fifty

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yards into this jack pine thicket, and I heard the

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distinct sound of a deer bounding, and I was stopped

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for a minute and I was listening, and it sally

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goes getting closer and closer to me. So I kind

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of hurried up and got into a spot where I

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could see because it was so thick, and here come

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this dough running right at me. Her tongue was hanging out.

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You could tell she'd been running, something had been running

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her and basically almost ran me over. She could care

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less that I was even there. I was like thinking

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in my head, I was like, huh, that's crazy. Well,

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that's a good sign. We're seeing deer. And so I

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kinda I think I walked maybe another hundred maybe even

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one hundred and fifty yards, and I started hearing this talking,

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and I was like, what the heck, how did those

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two thinking My two buddies was out in front of

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me talking, and which made sense to me that it

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was then, because okay, they spooked the deer and that's

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what had that deer coming towards me. Well, as I

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got a little bit closer, I could tell that it

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was they were talking pretty loud, but I couldn't understand

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what they were saying. And I was like, then, ding dongs,

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what the heck are they doing? They're scaring everything away.

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We're out here to scout, dear, not scare them away.

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And so I continued walking closer and closer to them,

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and as I got closer, I could tell. I was like,

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this is not a normal talk. It's like it sounded

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like Chinese, like a foreign language. And there was two

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distinct smaller sounding like almost sounded like kids talking, and

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then there was occasionally this this deeper voice, and I

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was trying. I was just baffled, Like, what in the

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heck I thought? I thought for sure still it was

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my friends, because I knew that there was only one

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road in there. We were several miles in and there

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was no other way for anybody to get in there

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other than hiking from you know, miles and miles and

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miles away. So as I got closer, I whistled and

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just to get their attention. Well, they whistled back, and

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then it went silent. And I was only at this

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time about only about fifty seventy five yards away, but

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it was so thick I couldn't see, so I decided

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I was going to go over there and see who

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it was. If it was somebody, you know, another hiker

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or something like that, then I would ask them how

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the heck they got all the way in there. Well.

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As I proceeded closer to them, I got to where

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I thought they should have been, and there was nobody there.

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So I whistled again, and they whistled back, but this

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time they were like down to basically it be to

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the south of me, and then they started talking again,

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and I was like, that's weird. I know they were

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standing right here, they had to have been, So I turned,

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I start walking back down towards them. I get to

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where I think they should be and they're not there,

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and so I whistle again. No response. So I was like, Okay,

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those two yardbirds are messing with me. They're screwing with me.

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And I continued on scouting throughout the morning, and uh,

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we finally got I finally got back to the truck

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and met up with those two and I was like,

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I'm very funny, you ding dongs. You guys were screwing

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it and they're they were looking at me like, what

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are you talking about? And I was like, what night

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you guys it was being idiots back in there, and

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they're like, no, you don't know nothing about it. So

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it kind of blew that off, and I was like, well,

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it had to been somebody talking, you know, some other

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hikers or something like that. So we went out this.

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Uh so this was that was probably two weeks before

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season opened, so so that would have been in late September.

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I'm guessing. I can't remember what the dates the deer

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season opened back then. So deer season rolls around. We

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decided we're gonna hunt that. So we show up, We

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drive down that same road, only we're the only rig

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down there. We do the same exact plan, except back

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in this wilderness area there's a big i'd say probably

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two three miles back in there, there was a big

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rock bluff and it was noticeable. You could see it

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from oh if you were on your way in, you

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could look way out and see it, but you could

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see it on the map. We decided we're gonna hunt

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the morning, separate, split up, do the same thing we did,

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and we're going to meet out that rock at that

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rock cliff, you know, late morning, and then we'll figure

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out if we want to go any farther. So I

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take my same path if I did two weeks prior

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to that, and I get probably half a mile in there,

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and I jumped a giant buck This thing was huge

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and it stopped perfect for me, and I ended up

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shooting it. It was actually the biggest bucket to this

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date I've ever shot. So I walk up to it.

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I'm just pumped as all get out, shooting and hollering,

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making all kinds of noise, and so I start gutting it.

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I get it all gutted up, and I think, okay,

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well they heard my shot. My two buddies heard my shot.

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They should be. I would have thought they would have

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already been there by the time I got it gutted

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and I got it all done, and I was like, well,

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they hadn't showed up. So I was like, well they

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might not I heard me. They might be, or they

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might be chasing deer as well. So I told myself,

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I was like, I'm going to walk to that rock

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and I'll meet him there and then they can help

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me pack it out. So I start walking. I get

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the deer all gutted, cleaned out. I rolled it over

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to where its belly was down. So then the blood

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ran out and I start walking towards that rock, and

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I get probably three four hundred yards away from my

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deer towards that rock, and I hear somebody talking back

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to where my deer was, and I was like, oh, sweet,

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it's my two buddies. They they're talking. They're there, They're

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there at the deer. They found found it. So I

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turn around, I start hauling, but back to my deer.

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I'm all pumped excited to, you know, share what i'd

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got with those guys. Well, I get back down to

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where my deer was or it was, and my deer

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was gone, and even the guts were gone. The only

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thing that was left was just the blood that had

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drained out the out of the cavity. At that point,

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I was ticked, and that talking sounded exactly like what

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I'd heard two weeks prior to that. So I was

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starting to look around, like somebody freaking stole my deer.

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So I started looking around and I find these footprints,

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but it was only one single footprint. And I don't

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know if you've ever been in the high desert over there,

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the ground over there is kind of like Oh, it's

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it's a it's almost like a baby powder. You step

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in it, you sink about ankle deep, pick your foot up,

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you can't. It just kind of folds back in on itself.

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So I just assumed that somebody had taken my deer.

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So I start tracking it and I cannot catch up

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with this thing, and I'm not Actually, it is pretty clear.

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The footprints were pretty clear, and it was going deeper

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into the wilderness area, not towards the road. So I

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tracked it for a while, and then I was starting

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to think. I was like, man, I don't know, this

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might be pretty stupid me doing this by myself, but

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I mean it was the biggest buck in my life

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at the time, and I was going to shoot whoever

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I was taking, who took this gear. So I tricked

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it for a while and I finally said, you know what,

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I'm going to meet my buddies at the rock. We're

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going to try to track this guy down and we're

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gonna we're gonna get it. So I met my buddies

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at the rock, told them what had happened, and they

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were like, yeah, we heard you shoot, and we didn't

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know exactly where it was. It was just one shot.

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So we go back down to where it was and

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we start from the beginning. They seeing the blood, they knew,

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and I showed him the track. We start tracking it

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and we tracked this thing for probably a mile mile

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and a half and then all of a sudden there

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was nothing. Well, at the time, it didn't dawn on me.

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Was it was just a trap?

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Big for society would be right back after these messages.

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This buck was huge. I mean this thing there was

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it would have taken all three of us, so we

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would have to cut it up and pack it out

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of there. There was no dragon it, I mean this

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thing was body wise, it was huge. But it didn't

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dawn on me at the time that there was just footprints,

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no drag barks, So we were I was kicked off

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at the world. There was nothing I could do. We

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tracked as far as we could and then we lost

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the tracks. Couldn't figure out what direction it went, but

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it did go farther out into the wilderness area. So

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we ended up giving up on it and we went

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back and we hunted the rest of that season. There

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never did see anything else, never got any shots at anything.

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So deer season ends. This would have been probably late October.

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This was after elk season, so probably late October early November.

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We decide we're going to go on a grouse hunt.

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So we loaded up our shotguns and this time there

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was four of us for me and three other buddies.

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We decide we're going to go that same area and

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camp there. There was a lot of ground, There was

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a lot of grouse down that road, that one road

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that went two miles back into that wilderness area. So

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we decided we were going to camp there and grouse

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hunt in that same area. So we loaded up all

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over camp and gear. We go. We go up there,

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we set camp up, and this was on a Friday,

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I believe. So we set camp up and we get

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everything all set up, and it was it was towards

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the evening went by the time we got there. We

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get a big old bombfire going in the middle of

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that cul de sac area at the end of that road,

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and we're sitting there just bs and having a good time,

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just enjoying, enjoy being out there, and it got to

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be dark and around ten o'clock I believe, we all

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decided we were going to go to bed, and we

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set up two tents. Each tent was like a little

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two man, two man tent, and so there was two

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of us in one and two of us in the other.

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So we go to bed and we're laying there and

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I'm about ready to go to sleep, and all of

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a sudden, we hear this big like log snap right

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behind the tents. And at that point I'm thinking, oh,

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it's an elk or deer. Well, next thing, I know,

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a bigger log snap, and it was getting closer to

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the tent, and so I nudged my buddy next to

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me and it's like, you hear that, And he's like, yeah,

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I hear that. I go you think it's an elk

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or something. It sounded big. He's like, I don't know,

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it sounds pretty being big to me. I don't know

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what the heck that is. And it starts getting close

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certain closer, and these footfalls were, I mean, you could

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tell it was giant. This thing was. You could almost

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feel it in the ground. Of course, over there back

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in that volcanic area. It's kind of weird that the

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acoustics are different. You can hear foot footfall from a

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ways away, you know, when the deer run, and you

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can hear them really, well, well, this thing keeps getting

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closer and closer. And as it's getting closer, we could

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tell that it was bipedal. It wasn't it wasn't a deer,

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it wasn't an elk, And I yelled. My buddy's in

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the tent next to us, I go, hey, do you

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hear that. They're like, yeah, what is that? And we're like,

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I don't know, but it it is freaking huge, whatever

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it is. And it gets to where I'm guessing it's

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probably fifty yards behind the tents, and we start playing

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the card where hey, we got guns, We're gonna shoot

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you if you keep coming, you know, making all kinds

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of noise, and it just proceeded to take each step

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it would take it, you know, it would get closer

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and closer and closer, and all of our shotguns, all

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of our weapons are in the vehicles. We didn't have

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anything in the tents as far as weapons go. So

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we're all freaking out because whatever this is is not

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backing away with our human voices yelling at it and

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telling them that we have guns, and all we were

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in is these little two man tents that you know,

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anything could easily get through. So we all are sitting

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there talking, trying to figure out what the hell we

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were going to do, and who was going to be

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the first one out of the tent to get to

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the rig to get a gun. So it gets to

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be where we're thinking, it's got to be only like

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ten feet behind the tent, and I finally I couldn't

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take it. I was freaking out. I was scared to

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death because it sounded like a dinosaur coming at us.

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So we ends up the tent and I go run

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and then we As I go running out the tent,

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I noticed that my other two buddies and the other

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tent they're running to their rigs. And we get to

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the rigs and we open the door, we grab the

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shotguns out, and we're sitting there turning and looking in

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the direction behind the tents and with the fire is

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still going. So I don't know if you've ever seen

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where when you got a fire going in a really

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thick spot, it lights up everything. You can just see

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the surface part of the trees it does. The light

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doesn't really penetrate back into the trees hardly at all.

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So we're sitting there yelling at it, saying we're gonna

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shoot you. We're gonna we're gonna shoot you. We got guns,

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we got lots of AMMO, trying to scare whatever this

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thing is. And I don't know if you've ever I'm

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sure you have watched Jurassic Park where that trannosaurce Rex

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when all the guys are like looking at the trees

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and that thing's like, you know, just crept. Every step

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is louder and louder, and the trees are moving. Well,

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that's what it sounded like. It just kept getting closer

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and closer. It's like, man, nothing should be like cut.

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Whatever it is should be coming out of those trees

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at any second. And finally we had had enough, and

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I think I was the first one, but I just

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started pumping shotgun shells into the I mean shooting, the

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shooting the gun and the trees at that noise, and

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it was like a split second later all three other

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buddies started shooting, and we were just like basically logging

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these jackpines that were all around us in the direction

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that sound was. Well, we stopped and we said we're

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not fooling around. We're going to keep shooting, and it

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still continued to walk and stayed just out of the

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light in those trees, and it was walking all the

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way around this circular pulled the sack area around us.

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We were standing by the fire by our trucks, and

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I bet you I don't to this day, I don't

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know how many shotgun shells we went through, but I

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know that there was like we had empty boxes of

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shotgun shells all over the place out there. We were

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just unloading and this thing just continued to harass us.

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It stayed just inside the trees all the way around.

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So we're like, this is not human. This is not

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an animal. If it was an animal, it would have ran.

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If it would have been a human, it would have

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came out and said, whoa, whoa, boa, it's just me.

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We're playing a prank on you. And so we we

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decided we're gonna let's get out of here. So we

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turned on the rigs and I told one of my

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buddies that was driving, I said, swing your truck around

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and shine your headlights, see if we can like look

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out into the trees a little bit and see if

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we can see what this is. And so he was

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just kind of slowly going in reverse in a circle,

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shining his headlights around this this round the circular area.

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We didn't see anything at all. Well, just as we

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were coming around in full circle and started to head

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out the direction the way we had to get out

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of there. It was both of us at the same time,

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both rigs. We swung around and the headlights were kind

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of pointing down the road heading out of there, and

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there there it was, standing there to the left side,

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next to a tree. And all I remember was at

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that point it was just like panic mode because whatever

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what we were looking at was not real. I mean,

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it's not supposed to be real. We had I mean,

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it was just insane just to sit there and be

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staring at it directly in the face. And it's only

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it was only like twenty five thirty yards from us,

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and we had to drive by it to get out

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of there, and we both both of my buddies gassed

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it and we were we went flying out of that

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road and as we were going by, I was looking

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at it in the eyes as we went by, and

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I still can't get that out of my head, just

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looking at it. And anyways, we go out of that

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road and we hit the pavement and we decide we

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kind of stopped and we're like, do you think we're

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far enough away from this thing? Do you think it

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followed us? What do we do? And we'd left everything.

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We left our tents, our coolers full of food, our chairs,

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I mean everything, our sleeping bags, and so that Three

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Creeks Campground was not too far up the road, up

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the pavement from there. So we decide, let's get to

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the campground. Hopefully there's somebody camping there, a camp post

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or something. So we go flying up to the campground

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and we get to the gate. Well there's a gate

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and it was closed through the season, so we decide

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we're just going to sleep right there in the rigs

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and we'll figure out what to do in the morning. Well,

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needless to say, we did not sleep at all. None

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of us slept. We sat there and talked about which

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is kind of weird because when you listen to these podcasts,

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you hear about all these people that have this happen

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and they say they never talk about it, you know,

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or anything. We talked about it non stop. So we

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sat there all night. Finally daylight comes and we decide

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we're gonna go in there fully loaded and get all

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of our stuff and get the heck out of there.

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So we drive in there, we get back back to

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where the camp was and one of the tents, our

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tent was collapsed like it was, it was down. The

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other tent was kind of partially collapsed. It was really loose,

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and we got to looking and there was a bunch

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of sticks and stuff laying around the tent at both

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of them, and so we're like jumping out, We're grabbing

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all of our we're trying to break everything down. We're

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just we're not even really rolling anything up. We're just

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kind of throwing stuff in the back. And we get

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everything loaded up, and it was at that point we

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started kind of feeling a little more at ease because

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it was daylight and we could see what was going on,

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and so I told the guys like it was like,

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let's go, let's look right where that thing was standing

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and see what we see. And so we walked over

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there to the tree and there was clearly a perfect

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footprint right next to this tree. And we started looking

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around and you could see its footprints all the way

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around camp and it basically we kind of tracked it

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and it had been it looked like it just worked

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trail down around this area, just inside the trees. But

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I distinctly remember when we were driving by it, there

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was a little jackpine that was next to it and

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it came up to its chest and you know, so

451
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.079
obviously the shoulders and head was above this jackpine. Well,

452
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.079
when we were standing there, that jackpine was the top

453
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.599
of my head. And at that time, I was probably

454
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:36.039
like five ten, I'm guessing something like that. So we're talking.

455
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:40.400
We're just like, do we tell somebody about this? What?

456
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:44.759
You know, what should we do? And at that point

457
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:46.440
I decided I was going to be the one. I

458
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:49.759
was going to go tell somebody. So we got all

459
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:51.599
of our stuff loaded and we had it out of there.

460
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:57.240
We drove all the way into Sisters and we went

461
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:02.200
to the forest the Forest Service. There's a force ranger

462
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:06.720
station there, and we sat out in the parking lot

463
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:09.519
debating on if we should tell anybody and who was

464
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:13.599
actually going to tell. And I was like, I'll do it.

465
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:15.960
I don't care this, you know, something's got to be

466
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:21.279
done about this. So I walk in there and I

467
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:23.680
looked at the guy that was there at the counter

468
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:28.319
and I was like, I know, I'm just a teenager.

469
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:31.839
You're probably not gonna blame or anything. But and I

470
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:35.799
told him the story and he looked at me with

471
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.759
the straight face and he's like, oh, yeah, he goes.

472
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:40.519
We get reports like this all the time.

473
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.160
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

474
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:04.039
And I was like really, and he's like, oh yeah,

475
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.559
he goes. It happens all the time around here. And

476
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.640
I was like, well, there's a clear footprint up there

477
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.160
if you want to do whatever, if you want to

478
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:16.720
take pictures or and he was like, oh no, he goes.

479
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.039
We got plenty of these, We've got plenty of castings

480
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:23.799
from other people. We don't we don't need it. And

481
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.599
I was like, in my head, I was thinking, what

482
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.440
the heck, these things aren't real, But yet here's somebody

483
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:35.680
telling me that they are real. And I was just

484
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:39.000
baffled by it. By that. I couldn't I couldn't quite

485
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.880
fathom what was going on and what had just happened

486
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:47.640
to us. So we go to school the next the

487
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:51.839
next week, and we start telling everybody, and I mean,

488
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.720
we got ridiculed, we got laughed at, we got we're

489
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:59.400
a bunch of idiots, and you guys can get you know,

490
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.359
the story, you know, and so we just quit talking

491
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:06.599
about it. We still to this day talk about it

492
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.400
whenever we see each other. Actually, only one of the

493
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.279
friends that was with me I actually keep in contact

494
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:17.599
with and he remembers it like it was yesterday as well.

495
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:20.640
But that was my first encounter.

496
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:31.519
Any questions, that is absolutely intense. Have you ever heard

497
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.799
anything else that sounds like that talking that you heard

498
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:36.359
that day?

499
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:43.839
Well, the crazy thing is is throughout all my years

500
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:49.599
of hunting up until that point and beyond, I have

501
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:55.640
heard heard it like a couple other times. But like

502
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:59.680
I said, you know, back then, there was no internet.

503
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:03.279
I hardly ever even watched TV. The only thing I

504
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:09.319
ever seen about Bigfoot was some guy debunked the Patty

505
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.839
Gimlin film and it was on the news and it

506
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:17.200
was a hoax. And that was what I knew of

507
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.359
Bigfoot at the time. And I didn't know about any

508
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:25.920
of this other stuff that supposedly bigfoots do. And it

509
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:33.640
wasn't until Finding Bigfoot came on is when I started

510
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:37.359
like tree knocks hear I was like, well, I hear

511
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:43.279
those all the time, you know, all these whoops and whistles,

512
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.759
And I mean I had always hear that stuff out

513
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.920
in the woods, you know, somebody like whistling at me,

514
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.000
thinking of trying to get my attention, and I look

515
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:57.440
and I never could see anybody. But what really freaked

516
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.799
me out was when that came on and then that

517
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.839
uh oh, what's the name of the the chat and

518
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:11.960
talk Sierra Sounds. Yeah, yeah, when they first did that

519
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:16.880
about crap my drawers, because that was basically it wasn't exact,

520
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.519
but it was close enough to where it freaked me out.

521
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.559
I was like, holy crap, I was I was actually

522
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.239
chasing this thing because I was I thought it was

523
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.280
people you know, and or my buddies. At the time,

524
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:31.360
I was just like.

525
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.400
Whoa, So you have heard the Sierra Sounds and you're

526
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:39.719
saying what you heard that day was very similar to

527
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:40.719
the Sierra Sounds.

528
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:46.000
Yes. So, like I said, there was two of them

529
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:52.880
that sounded like almost like kids, like younger like younger people,

530
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.400
and then there was one that was they would only

531
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:03.480
talk ever so often, but it was super but it

532
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:05.800
was close enough to those Sierra Sounds where I could

533
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:10.400
tell you that that's exactly what it was, just that

534
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.480
language that I was hearing.

535
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:18.760
When you saw the one in the headlights and you

536
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:23.039
had to drive by it to get out who in

537
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:27.199
the vehicle was the closest to the Bigfoot. When you

538
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:28.280
guys drove by.

539
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.440
The driver, it was on the left side as we

540
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:33.760
were like leaving.

541
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:40.440
Gotcha, did were you able to see any details of

542
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.079
the face at all or what did it look like

543
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.039
specifically when you had the headlights on it?

544
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.639
Oh yeah, yeah, no, I can't get it out of

545
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:54.280
my head. I know exactly what it looked like. I

546
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:59.679
know this is gonna sound stupid, just because after watching

547
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:03.760
all these podcasts and these documentaries and things like that,

548
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.119
the closest one I could tell you what it looked

549
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.800
like was I don't know if you that Todd standing

550
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:16.360
that nobody seems to believe, or like that one that's

551
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:21.800
like peeking through this little window that I can't remember.

552
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:26.239
He calls it by some name. It's black, but it

553
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:29.880
looks it looked just like a like an ancient human

554
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:33.159
is what it looked like. It looked like a human.

555
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:38.840
So this is really interesting because this now makes the

556
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:43.480
second time on the show that someone uses that specific reference,

557
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:48.480
the first time being an individual who is looking for

558
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:53.000
gold south of Oakridge, so not too far away in

559
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.360
the grand scheme of things. It's a very very interesting

560
00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:58.599
detail for you to bring up.

561
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.599
Oh really, Yeah, this I just when I when I

562
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:09.119
watch that Todd Standing documentary and I seen that. I mean,

563
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:14.079
it just it's almost it's it's almost like an identical

564
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:17.559
twin that I that I'm looking at. And my second

565
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:22.119
encounter actually looks just like the other one that he shows,

566
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:26.360
not the not the not the brown one that's like

567
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:31.159
super clear. But it's like, uh, you know, I hate

568
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:33.360
to say this, and I'm not not being mean, but

569
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:38.159
it's got that it's the color of like an orangutang,

570
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.320
but it has the face like a down syndrome person has.

571
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.159
And I'm not being mean about that or anything. I'm

572
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.400
just that's what it looked like. I think he calls

573
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.360
that one. I think he calls that one Jane or

574
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:53.599
something like a female.

575
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.960
Yeah. That's also really interesting because you're not the only

576
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:04.800
one that has you that description in in in the field.

577
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.039
It's come up a few times and it's very interesting. Yeah,

578
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.760
that's a detail that keeps coming up, so I think

579
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:15.760
there's there could be something there.

580
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.519
Yeah, both of my encounters the like that one, they

581
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:26.719
they they look different like I said, this one took

582
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:34.599
on more of a like an ancient human like it's

583
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:38.880
hard to explain. If you've seen that documentary, you'd know

584
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:41.639
what I was talking about. But then the other one

585
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:45.880
had a different look in the face. But you know,

586
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:48.400
just like we all do as humans.

587
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:55.320
Oh absolutely, Yeah, we have similar characteristics but then very

588
00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:00.960
very different features as well. Yeah, that's that's a great

589
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:02.719
way to put it. I mean, you hear all these

590
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:07.559
big foot encounters and they're similar, yet they are very

591
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:13.199
very unique. Those are the questions I have so far. Lyle,

592
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.559
feel free to continue if you'd like.

593
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:22.079
Just one more thing I'd add so so that, like

594
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.400
I said, its head and shoulders were above that tree,

595
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:31.480
so you know, it's it sounds so stereotypical, but I'm

596
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.400
guessing it was between the eight and nine foot tall range,

597
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:38.519
and there was nothing nothing around that tree that he

598
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:41.199
could have been standing on. I say, he I don't

599
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:44.719
know if it was he or not, but there's nothing

600
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.440
on that was around there that he could have been

601
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:52.440
standing on or you know, elevated himself. So I just

602
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:56.079
wanted to add that. As far as like hype and.

603
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.800
Stuff, you know, I did it come. I did think

604
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:02.519
of another question. During that time when you actually had

605
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:07.880
the bigfoot in the headlights, did anyone in any of

606
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:13.320
the cars start to have any weird out of the

607
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:19.400
ordinary physical reaction to seeing what they saw?

608
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.480
You know? Think it just I don't think they did.

609
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:27.639
No.

610
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:32.320
If they did, it wasn't told to me about it. Sure,

611
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:37.280
and out of all the times all this has happened

612
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:41.599
to me, I personally have never like felt any different.

613
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:45.960
I'm one of those ones that I seem to be

614
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:49.079
opposite of what everybody else is like. You know, people

615
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:53.159
don't talk about it, which I we did. We talked.

616
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.480
We still to this day talk about it like we

617
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:58.719
couldn't shut up about it. And you hear all these

618
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:02.039
other people that were with friends or something like that,

619
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.719
and they never say a word about it. I do

620
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:10.599
believe that a lot of the stuff that people are

621
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:16.000
feeling is the amount of fear and adrenaline is going

622
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:19.360
through your body. I think a lot of that feeling

623
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.360
that people think is in for sound or whatever is

624
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:29.280
just coming down off of that that that adrenaline that

625
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.480
that they're producing. At the time. It's such a such

626
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:36.599
a shock to your system because you're witnessing something that

627
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.400
you've been told all your life that doesn't even exist,

628
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:43.519
and it's facing you, and you're facing it.

629
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.559
Yeah, I mean, it's right there. And just imagine if

630
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:51.119
you had had that sighting, not being in a vehicle,

631
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:57.079
not having that that almost false sense of security. I mean,

632
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:02.239
it wouldn't take much for it to take a vehicle apart.

633
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.840
And you know, I mean, that's not going to really

634
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:07.760
save you, I think.

635
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.199
But yeah, no, no, And that's the way I look

636
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:17.280
at it nowadays. Is I back when that happened, it

637
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.199
took me forever to get to where I would really

638
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:26.960
felt comfortable even going out by myself. But I've gotten

639
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.559
to the point now where if this thing was out

640
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.639
to kill you or hurtya, it would have done that

641
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:35.920
to me a long time ago. The amount of time

642
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.719
I spent out in the woods and all the experiences

643
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.440
I've had, I'd been gone a long time ago. And

644
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.320
I hear, you know, people talking about, well, if you

645
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:52.559
shoot at one, you're in big trouble. Well, we shot

646
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:56.719
at one numerous times, but I'm guessing thirty plus rounds

647
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:01.119
and we're still here. It never it never did anything

648
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:07.519
as far as like it didn't wasn't aggressive. It was

649
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:11.199
almost like it was just curious and it was just

650
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:14.239
just wanted to watch us.

651
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:18.880
It's a very lucky situation. I've taken a report from

652
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:25.920
an individual where one of his friends opened fire in

653
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:31.519
the Packwood, Washington area and then shot it in the face,

654
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:38.280
and then later on this individual was thrown in the

655
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:42.679
woods about ten feet by something they couldn't see. And

656
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:47.760
I mean, it doesn't you can you can guess what

657
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:53.079
that would have been. You're one of the lucky, unique

658
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.559
situations to be able to do something like that and

659
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.480
not have something happened to you.

660
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:07.599
Yeah to hear, Okay, Well, I'll go on to my

661
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.480
second encounter. Sure, this one, this one I don't talk

662
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.079
about too much because I was by myself. The only

663
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:20.119
reason I like my wife and kids. They all have

664
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:24.280
heard that story a gazillion times because they all all

665
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.639
have me tell their friends and they're you know, oh,

666
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:32.440
Dad telling them your bigfoot story. Well, this one I

667
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.199
keep quiet about, and I don't think I've ever told

668
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:39.280
anybody this one, just because I was by myself, and

669
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:44.280
it's kind of It's one of those things that I

670
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:46.840
pretty much just kept myself because I had the experience

671
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.400
of the first one telling people about it, and I

672
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.480
had three other buddies with me with that one, this

673
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.960
one being by myself. I can only imagine the kind

674
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.960
of crap I would I would get from telling this story,

675
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:05.280
but I'm gonna tell anyways. So, like everybody already knows,

676
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:11.199
I live out here in Malala, and there is a

677
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:14.280
spot up a road big.

678
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.639
For society will be right back after these messages.

679
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.760
It's called will Hoite Road. And there was a spot

680
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:40.159
that I used to love to hunt up there. It

681
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:44.920
always kind of gave me the creepy feeling. It's super big, tall,

682
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:53.079
old growth uh fir trees. I don't know why why

683
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.280
it does, but every time I go in there, I

684
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.199
just kind of felt creepy. But I love to hunt

685
00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.599
it because there was lots of alkam, lots of deer

686
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:03.079
in there all the time. Well, I went up there

687
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:08.519
one day by myself. It was a deer season and

688
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:14.280
I was sneaking up through the old growth fur. And

689
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:17.199
in the underneath this old growth fur, there's it's just

690
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.079
a sea of ferns and the ferns are probably three

691
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:27.480
foot tall. And I was walking uphill and as I

692
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:31.519
was walking uphill, I was looking at the ground and

693
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.800
looking for, you know, sign seeing if the if the

694
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:36.880
deer had been moving through there, if they elk had

695
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:42.960
been moving through there, and this little bowl shaped area,

696
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:49.199
it's probably i'd say a hundred by a hundred yards,

697
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:53.760
and I could see the whole face of the hillside

698
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:58.880
all the way around me. Well, as I'm walking through

699
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:03.519
the ferns, I'm looking down to the ground and I

700
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.719
just start to pick my head up, and in the

701
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.599
corner of my eye, I catch movement and as I

702
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.320
start to turn my head, look what I saw was.

703
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:19.719
I thought what I saw was a bear, and it

704
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.320
was by this big fir tree. And if you ever

705
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.800
seen a bear coming down out of a tree, when

706
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.519
it just right when it touches the ground, its rear

707
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.719
legs are on the ground and its front legs are

708
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:36.760
up above its head still hanging under the tree. Well,

709
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.280
that's the position it was in when I first seen it.

710
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:46.400
And right when I my eyes looked at it, that

711
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:48.880
was my first thought was bear. And I whip my

712
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:53.400
rifle off, and I had a bear tag. I've always

713
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:55.239
had a bear I always have a bear tag, and

714
00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:02.440
that the season runs during deer season, and so I

715
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:05.800
ripped my rifle off and as I'm ripping my rifle

716
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:11.199
off and swinging to shoot shoot this bear, it comes

717
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:13.760
down off of the tree. And as it's coming off

718
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.880
the tree is when it looks at me, and I

719
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:23.039
could see that it had hands and it had a face,

720
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:28.559
and it went from bear to holy you know what.

721
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:33.039
It's bigfoot And this thing is only fifty yards from me,

722
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:38.400
and it went down to onto all fours and it

723
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:45.400
went behind this tall ferns and I had my gun

724
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.559
up and in my mind, I'm going to do I

725
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:49.480
shoot it? Do I shoot it? What do I do?

726
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:54.519
And I'm like, Okay, this thing's going to come out

727
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.079
somewhere I'll be able to see it. Because I could

728
00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:59.519
see the whole hillside and there was there was no

729
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:03.119
place for to go other than on the hill side.

730
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:08.119
It it had to leave. Well, the ferns moved just

731
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:12.239
for a split second when it went behind the ferns.

732
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:16.000
And I'm sitting there, you know, my eyes are just

733
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:19.559
like scanning, like where is this thing? And I'm looking

734
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:24.519
for it and I never see anything come out. And

735
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:28.760
so I start slowly creeping up to my left and

736
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.960
I'm going to try to get above it where I

737
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:37.000
can look down onto it. And as I'm sneaking around,

738
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.880
I got I mean, my eyes are like all over

739
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:43.119
the place, just seeing if this thing's going to escape anywhere,

740
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:49.320
and I don't see anything. And I make it all

741
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.440
the way around three hundred and sixty degrees, all the

742
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:55.719
way around where this thing went behind these ferns, and

743
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:00.800
I never saw anything. And so I finally got the

744
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.239
courage up and I started sneaking up to where it

745
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:08.599
actually was, and there was nothing there. It just like

746
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:14.639
it just like vanished. But it was so crystal clear

747
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:18.280
when I seen it. And when it came down, it

748
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:21.559
went to all fours and it went behind that those ferns.

749
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:23.800
I mean, I could still to this day see it

750
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:27.119
in my in my head, and I don't know what

751
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.519
the heck would happen. Where'd it get? You know, I

752
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.360
don't know where it went to this day I could,

753
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:36.119
I couldn't tell you. And as big as it was,

754
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:40.719
you would have seen the ferns move, you would have

755
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:43.159
seen it come out on the hillside. I had a

756
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:47.320
wide open hillside that it had. The only other way

757
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:50.360
would have been right past me. And it never came

758
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:56.719
past me. And that's why I don't ever talk about

759
00:50:56.760 --> 00:51:02.079
it because it sounds so far fetched that I think

760
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:06.079
everybody's like got that mindset like, oh yeah, what were

761
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:12.360
you smoking, what were you drinking? You know, it's just

762
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:14.760
so I just never talk about it. But that was

763
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:18.559
my second sighting, and that's the one that it was

764
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:20.920
a reddish color. It looked kind of like a rain

765
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:25.440
a tang color the hair, but the face looked like

766
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:30.320
that Todd Standing's Jane that he calls her. I think

767
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:35.400
it had that kind of down syndrome. Me look to

768
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.440
its face. That's my second sighting.

769
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:43.920
What was this sound like in the woods that day.

770
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:52.239
Well, it was it was super like misty, kind of

771
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:58.079
like a fog misty. You could just hear like rain drops.

772
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:01.119
Just it's just like doe, this we get this do

773
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:04.400
over here that we'll sit on the leaves and then

774
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.760
it'll build up and then it drips. And that was

775
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:11.599
the only it was dead quiet other than.

776
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:17.639
That from what you saw the point when you had

777
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:21.920
seen you know, it comes off the tree, it has hands,

778
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:27.159
has a face. Do you remember any details that stick

779
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.199
out in your mind that made you think, Okay, this

780
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:33.920
is not a bear. What I'm seeing in the face

781
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:35.920
right now is totally different.

782
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:42.199
I was able to lock my eyes on it. Just

783
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.199
for the other thing I forgot to mention was as

784
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:49.800
my eyes were coming up and actually visually seeing this

785
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:55.039
thing it, there was like a tree knock and it

786
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:59.760
sounded like it came from that that that thing, that bigfoot,

787
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:03.679
But there was nothing in its hand as far as

788
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:08.119
like a stick or anything. So which kind of leads

789
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:10.800
me to think that there are these tree knocks that

790
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.599
people talk about. I think they're doing it with their

791
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:19.920
mouth or something. Because it was so loud that knock

792
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:24.599
when it happened, it had to have been that one

793
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:27.719
right there, you know. It had to been that that

794
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:33.519
animal there that made the noise. Is it was so loud.

795
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.559
It was just like right there when it happened. And

796
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:40.840
but as as I heard that is when I was

797
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.639
seeing it, but nothing fell out of its hands, like

798
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:47.000
it was like it would have hit something with a stick,

799
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:48.960
you know, if it would have a stick, I would

800
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:51.800
have thought that I would see like a stick, you know,

801
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:59.519
flying out of its hands or falling out of its hands. Yeah,

802
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:02.960
I don't I don't know. I think I had a

803
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:05.039
buddy back in high school that could do this thing

804
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.719
with this tongue he had sucked his tongue up against

805
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:11.800
the roof of his mouth, and he had just and

806
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.760
it would just I mean, he would actually almost make

807
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.920
it deaf. It just blow your ear drums out. And

808
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.400
it's kind of what I'm leaning towards on this knocking

809
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:23.920
thing after seeing that.

810
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:29.360
You know, I agree with you. There's more than a

811
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.199
few people in the community that are throwing around theories

812
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:37.840
like you know, what you just said, or sometimes having

813
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:40.280
its hands in front of its face so it can

814
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:43.639
make like some kind of you know, clap his hands,

815
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.599
or maybe even I think there's some individuals out there

816
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:51.480
that think there might be like some kind of air

817
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:56.000
sack that it can you know, inflate in its throat.

818
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:59.159
I haven't heard that one a lot, but what you said,

819
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.280
I've heard that more than a few times. It's very interesting.

820
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:08.719
Yeah, it's it was so loud and clear when it happened,

821
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:13.039
and it was it was obvious that that bigfoot made

822
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:18.320
that sound. But I did not see anything in its

823
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:22.400
hand was so which leads me to believe that it

824
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:29.000
was doing it somehow through its mouth or or or whatever.

825
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:31.360
I don't I don't know how, you know, I wouldn't

826
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:37.079
even that's all speculation. I'm just guessing, but it was.

827
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:41.199
I've seen it enough to know that it wasn't hitting

828
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:45.000
the tree with a stick, but it made that sound

829
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.320
like it hit the tree with a stick.

830
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.920
Absolutely. What approximate year was this again?

831
00:55:54.440 --> 00:56:02.239
Uh, I'm gonna say the early two thousand's, Okay. I

832
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:04.960
couldn't tell you what it was before I had hounds,

833
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:09.320
so I'm going to say like two thousand and four,

834
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:10.639
two thousand and five.

835
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:16.920
I think it's important to point out real quick for

836
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.599
listeners that Lyle is not a bigfoot researcher. He is

837
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:26.679
a lifelong hunter in these you know, he does listen

838
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:30.159
to some bigfoot media, but he's not a researcher. He

839
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:31.880
is primarily a hunter.

840
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:40.719
Yeah, no, no, I've never until that finding bigfoot came out,

841
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:46.960
I I didn't even know that there was even a

842
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:53.000
possibility that bigfoot made tree knocks or whoops or whistles

843
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:57.880
or any of that stuff I had through rocks, I mean,

844
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:01.639
even the chatter, the talking. I knew nothing about it,

845
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:08.199
nor did I care to even learn. But until that happened,

846
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:11.039
and I started putting all these pieces together of stuff

847
00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:14.159
that had happened to me over the years. I was

848
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:17.480
just like, holy crap, I cannot believe all this stuff

849
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.880
has been happening, and I had no clue.

850
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:25.760
It is always interesting in conversations like this, you know

851
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:29.519
how there's a point when the individual starts to put

852
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:36.159
everything together. But it's been a fascinating conversation so far, Loud,

853
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:39.360
Did you have any other things happen after that?

854
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:43.159
Those are the only two actual physical sightings I've had,

855
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:48.000
But I've had other crazy things happen to me. I

856
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:54.000
got into hound hunting several years ago, and up in

857
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:59.840
this same area. Well, this is up the mall core

858
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.679
or used to We used to do a lot of

859
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:06.559
bobcat hunting and I had I used to hunt with

860
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:11.639
several buddies that had hounds, and these hounds were bear dogs.

861
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:16.880
There were cat dogs. These dogs had zero fear of anything.

862
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:20.679
These dogs would you know, you'd catch a bear on

863
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:23.079
the ground, they'd catch a bear on the ground and

864
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:26.840
be right in that bear's face, just baying it up,

865
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:33.000
going crazy. Well, one night we were up hound hunting

866
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:39.039
and the dogs struck and they were going crazy, and

867
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:43.880
we turned them out and they went running up on

868
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:47.800
this up on the hill, up on this bluff and

869
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:51.119
all of a sudden you hear all this yipping and

870
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.320
yiping and like something was hurting them. And here they

871
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:57.360
come running back down the hill, tails between their legs

872
00:58:57.400 --> 00:58:59.440
and they bailed back in the truck. It was like,

873
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:01.960
I we could not get them back out of the truck.

874
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:06.480
And they actually refused to come back out of that box.

875
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:09.480
All night long. They would they wouldn't even say a peep,

876
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:16.320
which is completely like it just doesn't happen. Well, a

877
00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:20.679
buddy of mine. As a little spoof, they went and

878
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:24.599
got I think it was a gorilla costume, and they

879
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:28.880
were doing this little video and they had their hounds

880
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:33.320
on their truck and they had this guy that was

881
00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:35.440
dressed up in a grilla suit run out in front

882
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:38.920
of them and their video in it. And the dogs

883
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:42.639
struck and I'm assuming they thought it was a bear.

884
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.320
They ran across the road and when they turned those

885
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:50.639
dogs loose, they tore off after it. And as soon

886
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:53.920
as they got close enough where he had stepped back

887
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:56.480
out onto the road and they could see that it

888
00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:02.920
was like an upright gorilla, those dogs like hit the brakes,

889
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:07.760
started to yipping, wheeled around and did that exact same

890
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.519
thing back to the truck, and they were like whimpering.

891
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:14.239
It was like they had seen it before and then

892
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:16.920
like they knew exactly what it was and they did

893
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:19.320
not want anything to do with it, which is just

894
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:24.440
totally crazy to me, because these dogs they're just insane.

895
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:29.840
I mean, they're fearless, which I thought was pretty interesting

896
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:35.360
seeing that. Another another thing that had happened to us

897
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:39.679
a couple of years ago, my wife and I we

898
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:41.719
went up deer She went up deer hunting with me,

899
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:44.440
and we were driving down the road up by Table

900
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:49.880
Rock Wilderness area and it was a weekday and we

901
01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:51.599
were the only ones up there when there was a

902
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:56.639
slight skiff of snow on the road and we're putting

903
01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:00.519
up this little, this old logging road. Nobody had on it.

904
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:02.119
We're the first truck on it.

905
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:22.920
Big for Society will be right back after these messages, And.

906
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:26.800
All of a sudden, I catched something coming towards my windshield.

907
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:29.360
I thought it was a bird, and I'm like, oh, crap,

908
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:33.519
And before I could say crap, it had hit my

909
01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:36.679
window and it was an actual rock and it hit

910
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:41.280
my windshield dead centered it and it slid down my

911
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:47.719
windshield onto the plate where your wipers are. And my

912
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:50.559
wife looked at me and she goes, is that what

913
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.760
I think that was? And I was like, I think so,

914
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:56.480
I mean that was a rock and she saw it

915
01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:59.559
coming too, and it was thrown. So it was thrown

916
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:04.800
and it came off the hillside, which it's all all trees,

917
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:09.280
but you could not you could not hit my windshield

918
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:14.000
more dead center than that rock did. That was another

919
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:18.840
crazy one that had happened to us. Another crazy experience

920
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:23.760
we had was it was archery season, which is September

921
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:28.199
hotter and heck out. My father in law and I

922
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:30.280
we decided we were going to go. I'd found these

923
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:33.079
elk in this swamp area up in this timber company

924
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:36.880
that it used to be walking only you couldn't drive

925
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:40.239
in there. I had walked up in there and I'd

926
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:43.360
found a pretty good size heard elk up in this

927
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:49.119
swamp area. And it was so hot out that that

928
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:52.000
at that time of the year it was getting down

929
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:55.639
it was still like in the eighties at night. So

930
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:58.679
we decided, well, let's walk up in there. This was

931
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:02.679
Friday afternoon. Let's walk up in there. We'll get up

932
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:05.239
in there just before daylight and we'll just sack out

933
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.480
underneath the tree. We'll wake up and we'll be right

934
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:12.880
there on them first thing in the morning. So my

935
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:16.800
father in law, he's been in the woods his whole

936
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:21.960
life as well, his father in law and all that.

937
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:27.000
He actually was one of the guys ran this same

938
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:31.000
timber company, well not the same company, but the same

939
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:33.840
land for many many years. He had been all over

940
01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:36.960
up in there. So we walk up in there, and

941
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.639
we get up in there, and we find a perfect

942
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:43.559
spot just to lay down and crash out for the night.

943
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:48.079
And it got to be about ten o'clock and we

944
01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:50.760
were getting eaten by the mosquitoes. The mosquitoes were just

945
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:58.000
absolutely horrible, and all of a sudden, I don't know

946
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:02.800
the exact time, I'm guessing it was around eleven, maybe twelve,

947
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:10.000
all of a sudden we hear this, I want to say, scream,

948
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:12.599
but it wasn't a scream. It was more like a roar.

949
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:16.400
And the only thing I can describe it is like

950
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:23.559
that Ohio howl. But it was so freaking loud. It

951
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:27.840
was like insanely loud, and it was coming from that

952
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:31.719
same swamp that I had found those elkin And my

953
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:34.440
father in law was like, I had to have been

954
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:37.639
a bear, right, And I was like, yeah, no, that

955
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:40.519
wasn't a bear. I you know, hound hunted. I heard

956
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:44.360
plenty of bears and cougars and all that stuff. Knew

957
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:49.719
exactly what they sounded like. But this thing was it

958
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:55.559
was insanely loud, like it shook your guts tight loudness.

959
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:59.559
And it was still a ways off that swamp was

960
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:03.559
We were still probably a quarter mile away from that swamp,

961
01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:05.800
and that's where exactly where it sounded like. But it

962
01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:09.599
was so loud that it's still reverberated in your chest.

963
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:10.719
It was so loud.

964
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:18.280
You may have heard me talk about before. I've I

965
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:23.320
think I've heard something similar in the Lammette down by Oakridge.

966
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:27.519
It just the way that affects you as nuts physically,

967
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:31.719
it's just oh yeah, oh my goodness.

968
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:34.440
Yeah, it's yeah. And of course we had to spend

969
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:36.639
the rest of the night. I took the only thing

970
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:38.719
we had. It was archery season. Also the only thing

971
01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:41.679
we had was bow and arrows, and so I took

972
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:46.159
I think I took two arrows out and I slept

973
01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:50.360
with one arrow in each hand sticking straight out from me,

974
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.079
and I actually I didn't even sleep I just sat

975
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:56.199
there all night and I didn't know what else to do.

976
01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:58.760
I wasn't about ready to walk out of there, because

977
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:03.079
we were a couple miles in and we didn't I

978
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:05.239
don't even think we had a headlight. I don't think

979
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:09.519
we even brought a headlight. We want super light. But

980
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:12.559
we just laid there all night long waiting for it

981
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:17.960
to get daylight. And actually, after it got daylight, I

982
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.039
looked at him. I was like, you're ready to go hunt,

983
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:23.280
and he's like, no, let's get out of here. He

984
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:26.679
didn't want anything to do with going into that after hearing.

985
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:31.400
That, Wow, oh my goodness.

986
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:36.000
Yeah. And then in that same area, oh, it was

987
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:39.320
several years later they opened it up to a permit

988
01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:42.639
and so you could drive in there. Well, I had

989
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:45.800
went in there with a couple buddies. We were deer hunting,

990
01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:48.800
and I ran across this herd of bucks. There was

991
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:53.280
probably ten or twelve bucks in it, and we decided

992
01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:56.119
we were going to hunt this timbered ridge that kind

993
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:58.519
of ran and it was actually right behind that swamp

994
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:03.000
that I was talking about. And we get to walking

995
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:08.960
down that ridge and my buddies are off to my left,

996
01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:12.360
and I was right on top of that ridge, and

997
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.920
I'm walking down and I get to this area and

998
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:22.000
there is crap everywhere, and this stuff was like this

999
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:25.920
when I say it feces crap, this stuff was like

1000
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:29.960
the size of a pop can and it was literally

1001
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:35.280
like in piles everywhere. And as I got to looking around,

1002
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:42.400
I watched this documentary. I think it's the is it

1003
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:46.679
the Bigfoot Project or I can't remember. It's up in

1004
01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:50.280
the on the peninsula where they find these nests.

1005
01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:52.639
Oh, the Olympic Project.

1006
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:57.039
Yeah there, yeah, there you go, there you go. And

1007
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:04.119
I found the nest and it was woven with like

1008
01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:07.159
fur boughs and stuff like that. But there was like

1009
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:12.079
literally you could see mounds probably a foot and a

1010
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:16.720
half two foot tall of animal crap and it was,

1011
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:19.520
you know, spread out all over the place in there,

1012
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:22.039
and it was super thick. But there was a nest

1013
01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:23.920
in there. Well, I got my buddies over there and

1014
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:26.600
go look at this. What was this? And I still

1015
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:29.680
at that point didn't know anything about all this stuff,

1016
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:34.199
and they're like, it has to be bear. I mean,

1017
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:36.520
and that's what I thought it was, was a bear.

1018
01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:44.000
But watching that documentary, I'm pretty positive that that was

1019
01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:46.359
a nest and it was right on Like I said,

1020
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:49.159
it was right on top of a ridge behind that swamp,

1021
01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:52.520
and there was zero roads. It was pretty hard to

1022
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:56.319
get to. And with all the other experiences that have

1023
01:08:56.399 --> 01:09:00.159
been happening up there, I'm pretty positive that was the

1024
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:04.119
nest we stumbled on. Of course, you know, I didn't

1025
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:06.760
know anything about it, so I didn't even think to

1026
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:09.039
take pictures or anything like that.

1027
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.520
Of course, it's it's a Hindsight's twenty twenty thing. Did

1028
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:16.119
you say this is also in the table Rock Wilderness

1029
01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:18.479
area or something a completely different area?

1030
01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:24.399
Yeah, so yeah, so table Rock Wilderness is on I

1031
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.680
think the south side of the river. I was on

1032
01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:32.159
the north side of the river. Okay, it's a little

1033
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:38.399
creek called Bower Creek. Warehouser's the timber company Bower Creek

1034
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:43.600
b a U E R e R, I believe, or

1035
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:45.439
maybe it's b a U R e R.

1036
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:50.439
This also early two thousands, probably.

1037
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:58.800
Yes, Yes, it dumps into Pine Creek. Uh, yeah, I

1038
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:01.960
believe it. I think I think it into Pine Pinekirk Canyon,

1039
01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:07.159
which is where Pinekirk is, which is where when you

1040
01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:09.640
watch I think it's finding Bigfoot. That was the other

1041
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:12.760
thing that was kind of if you follow that ridge

1042
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:17.920
down it comes out there. There's a guy that talks

1043
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.640
about seeing a bigfoot and they're standing at that bridge

1044
01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:25.239
at Pinekirk Bridge. He doesn't say it's Pinekirk Bridge, but

1045
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:31.720
that's where it's at where he had an encounter while

1046
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:36.319
he was fishing right there, And that was on that

1047
01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:41.319
finding bigfoot. I think he said he's seeing red glowing eyes.

1048
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:43.600
That's the other thing, is all this stuff that's happened

1049
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:47.920
to me, I've never like that, I that I can remember.

1050
01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:55.760
I never had uh smells anything off. You know, never

1051
01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:58.800
you hear people talking about they have the the smell,

1052
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:04.800
this horrible smell. I never found like other than that

1053
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:07.800
one the first experience I've had. I've never found like

1054
01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:15.399
a definite footprint. I've definitely ran into stuff that, you know,

1055
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:18.560
it looked like it, but I couldn't tell you one

1056
01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:27.399
hundred percent if it was or not. Yeah, that same spot,

1057
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.479
that Pinekreek Canyon where that guy was, just up the

1058
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:36.800
river from there, I was fishing salmon fishing, and I

1059
01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:39.720
parked my rig and walked down. It was probably one

1060
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:42.840
hundred and fifty yards down to the river, and I

1061
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:46.520
had rocks thrown into the river while I was fishing,

1062
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:50.479
and Never I actually was yelling at him like, hey,

1063
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.199
a hole, you know, knock it off. I'm down here fishing.

1064
01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:58.760
Never I went walking back up thinking I'd see somebody

1065
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:01.479
park by my rig, and there was nobody that I

1066
01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:05.680
could find. So, you know, all that stuff is stuff

1067
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:08.880
that I couldn't tell you one hundred percent that it

1068
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:15.520
was bigfoot or if it was somebody throwing rocks. A

1069
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:17.199
lot of this stuff I can't A lot of those,

1070
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:19.479
you know, the whistles that I've heard over the years.

1071
01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:22.560
You know that some of the tree knocks that could

1072
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:26.520
have been I've been in the woods where I've heard

1073
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.439
the trees creaking and it sounded like a wood knock

1074
01:12:29.479 --> 01:12:31.239
and I'm like, huh, that must have been what I've

1075
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:36.079
been here and all this time. But I mean, you

1076
01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:38.479
never know, it seems like a lot of people are

1077
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:41.359
are having the same experiences.

1078
01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:47.039
Oh yeah, especially over the years in this area. It's

1079
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:51.479
just I mean, I've I've talked to multiple individuals that

1080
01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:56.000
have had just wild stuff happen in this Molaala area.

1081
01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:00.159
We were talking about this beforehand, and I think it

1082
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:03.960
might be good to mention it as well, this entire

1083
01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:08.600
Malala River Corridor area has been burned recently. Correct.

1084
01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:12.720
Oh yeah, yeah, that's why I don't really mind sharing

1085
01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:16.960
where this stuff is at because it's basically moonscape now

1086
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:21.279
from the fires we had in twenty twenty. You know,

1087
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:28.039
there's really nothing left of it up here. There's it's yeah,

1088
01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:33.520
it's it was bad, it's bad. It's pretty much gone now. Yeah.

1089
01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:36.479
So that to say, guys, you're not going to be

1090
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:39.560
able to drive up there and find the next Olympic

1091
01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:43.319
Project Bigfoot in s site probably, Yeah, it's all been burned,

1092
01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:46.720
So heads up on that. Guys. Did you have any

1093
01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:49.000
other things you were wanting to share as well?

1094
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:53.680
Lyle, there is one other so I'd send you an

1095
01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:57.840
email back. A couple of years or several years ago,

1096
01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:01.319
my kids, we're still young. We it to Colton High School.

1097
01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:05.159
It was for I want to say, it was a

1098
01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:07.720
wrestling tournament or something. Well, when I walked in there,

1099
01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:11.319
the front fourier, the entrance area, there was a big

1100
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:16.880
it was actually a pretty big bigfoot display there and

1101
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.199
at the time I didn't really think much of it,

1102
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:22.399
but I went up this I used to hunt up

1103
01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:26.279
this road. It's called hillock Burn Road. It's up out

1104
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:30.800
of Colton and Elwood, and I was driving up Hillock

1105
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:33.840
Burn one year it was archery season and I ran

1106
01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:36.479
into this old guy that was living in a camp

1107
01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:41.399
trailer and he was the night watchman slash security guy

1108
01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:44.239
for the loggers that were up there. He kind of

1109
01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:50.520
watched the equipment and the site forum, and I kind

1110
01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:54.039
of befriended him because he obviously lived up there and

1111
01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:56.000
I was trying to get information. I was like, hey,

1112
01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:01.119
you see me elk out here? And he always the

1113
01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:03.640
first couple of times I talked to him, I'd asked

1114
01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:05.359
him to say, hey, you see me ol because here

1115
01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:09.359
and he's like, no, but I've seen Bigfoot. And he

1116
01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:12.880
was one of those old guys that kind of like

1117
01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:16.880
the way he talked and stuff. You were like, Okay,

1118
01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:20.800
is this guy. I think he's kind of out there type.

1119
01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:24.600
And I think it was like the third or fourth

1120
01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:26.760
time i'd stopped and talked to him. He's like, let

1121
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:29.359
me show you. Let me show you. These suckers were

1122
01:15:29.399 --> 01:15:31.479
in here. And he took me down this little tiny

1123
01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:33.800
trail it used to be a road that's all grown

1124
01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:36.720
up now, and he was showing me all these trees

1125
01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:39.159
that were snapped over at the tops were snapped over

1126
01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:44.560
and they're all twisted, and I at that, you know,

1127
01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:47.000
just like I said, back at that time, I didn't

1128
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:52.439
know that that's what Bigfoot was associated, that that's type

1129
01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:58.439
of stuff was associated with Bigfoot. And when I finding

1130
01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:01.399
Bidfoot came out, started kind of looking into all these

1131
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:06.159
documentaries where I found this old documentary and I was

1132
01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:07.800
trying to find it so I can tell you, but

1133
01:16:07.880 --> 01:16:11.039
I can't. I wasn't able to find it. It starts

1134
01:16:11.079 --> 01:16:14.680
out with this kind of this guy playing drugs drums.

1135
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:16.760
Yes, I was like, this is the Henry Franzoni one.

1136
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:18.960
I knew it the whole time you were talking. I

1137
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.880
was like, it's the guy from the Henry Franzoni documentary.

1138
01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:22.960
Oh my goodness.

1139
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:26.960
Yeah, and that that guy was on there. I was like, dude,

1140
01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:29.720
freaking kidding. I knew same guy.

1141
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:33.399
Oh man, I just knew it when you were describing him.

1142
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:38.880
So that whole documentary was off of Hillock Burn, that

1143
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:39.920
same road.

1144
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:44.680
No way, yeah, oh man.

1145
01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:47.079
Yeah, which was which kind of blew me away. I

1146
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:49.000
was like, what the heck is going on? Why do

1147
01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:53.640
I you know, Like like you said, I'm not a researcher,

1148
01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:56.239
I don't. I mean, me and my family go out

1149
01:16:56.520 --> 01:16:59.960
and we do it. We we've had experiences which I'll

1150
01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:03.920
probably have to say for another time, but uh, we

1151
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:05.520
go out and just kind of do it for fun

1152
01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:11.720
now but when there's nothing else to do. But yeah,

1153
01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:13.560
all this stuff is so crazy.

1154
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:18.640
Sorry, I'm getting a little bit excited, so I'm going

1155
01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:22.800
to try not to interrupt. But so is this hillock

1156
01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:23.840
Burn Spring.

1157
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:32.279
It's not. I don't think it's. It's just hillock Burn Road,

1158
01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:32.920
I believe.

1159
01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:36.560
Okay, So it's not like off of Forest Road forty six.

1160
01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:43.159
Ah, it very well could be. So if you go

1161
01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:48.960
due north out of Colton, Okay, there'll be. I think

1162
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:53.640
it's I want to say, five miles out of Colton

1163
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:58.399
towards Estacada. Yep, it's hillock Burn Road. And you take

1164
01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:01.000
a ride on that and you stay on that takes

1165
01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:08.159
you back up oh by Goat Mountain. Oh yeah, great

1166
01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:11.600
Green Mountain and that country up and.

1167
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:15.479
There hotly Mackerel. So, Okay, this is wild because, as

1168
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.000
I said, I think this might have been off air.

1169
01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:22.680
But I'm reading the Oregon Bigfoot Highway book again, which

1170
01:18:22.760 --> 01:18:28.239
is Forest Road forty six and then it goes to

1171
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:34.960
but it's pretty much like the craziest Bigfoot area in

1172
01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:39.920
that part of the Pacific Northwest. And I'm gonna have

1173
01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:42.039
to see I'm gonna have to Okay, here it is

1174
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:47.239
forty six and then Route two two four, so you

1175
01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:51.039
like take forty six through Ripplebrook and then eventually it

1176
01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:55.199
dumps you out at Detroit Lake. But that's crazy. So

1177
01:18:55.279 --> 01:19:01.479
to know that that's my favorite Bigfoot documentary. Dude is heady.

1178
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:03.520
Franzonia got to talk to him a few times. He

1179
01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:07.399
was a great, a great guy. He's no longer with us,

1180
01:19:07.399 --> 01:19:10.039
But to know that that I always wanted to know

1181
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:13.159
where that area was and for you just to drop that,

1182
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:18.520
Oh my goodness, you are incredible, my friend. I always

1183
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:20.520
wanted to talk to that dude in the documentary. But

1184
01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:23.199
it's like he's long gone. He's got to be long gone.

1185
01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:27.800
Oh I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, that was years ago. Super

1186
01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:30.680
nice guy, kind of like I said, kind of kind

1187
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:34.119
of out there. And when I've seen that, I just

1188
01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:35.560
felt fell out of my chair.

1189
01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:40.760
Because you know, yeah, you know he's seen stuff, like

1190
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:43.000
the way the guy, the type of guy he is.

1191
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:46.119
He he was having stuff happen all the time.

1192
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:49.600
Oh yeah, I mean it was so matter of fact

1193
01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:52.000
like he did. He didn't even like, well, I don't

1194
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:54.640
know type attitude. I mean, it was like, this is

1195
01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:57.279
what's happening, this is what they're doing. It is like

1196
01:19:57.359 --> 01:20:01.520
he he knew exactly what was going on and who

1197
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:03.800
they were and what they what they were all about.

1198
01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:13.840
Incredible, my goodness. I will also say the listeners, all

1199
01:20:13.880 --> 01:20:16.319
these areas a lot of these areas that are being

1200
01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:20.239
talked about are hard to get to. And it's not

1201
01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:22.079
just a thing where it's like I'm going to go

1202
01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:25.079
out there and do whatever. You need to be prepared

1203
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:30.079
for survival situations in some of these situations, so just

1204
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:32.840
be careful. I would recommend getting the Oregon Big Foo

1205
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:34.680
Highway talks about it. It's a great book.

1206
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:38.000
Oh yeah, I'll definitely look into that.

1207
01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:39.039
Oh yeah, you would love it.

1208
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:42.800
Man. I know we're running out. Yeah, I know, we're

1209
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:47.159
running out of time, and uh, maybe I'll maybe plan

1210
01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:52.239
another one where I can talk about all my family's experiences.

1211
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:56.239
And we got the family stuff too. Yeah. Can I

1212
01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:58.760
ask you one one more question while I got you,

1213
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:02.520
just in case, and this is going to be a

1214
01:21:02.600 --> 01:21:09.760
left curveball whatever, whatever the analogy is. Do you know

1215
01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:13.880
of any bigfoot activity that's happened over the years down

1216
01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:16.079
by Subtle Lake? Are you familiar with that area?

1217
01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:20.680
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've used to hunt that all

1218
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:27.439
the time. I've had a few, not not cutting dried experiences,

1219
01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:30.960
but things like I've been talking about happen there. I

1220
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:34.039
have several friends that have told me stories about things

1221
01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:39.520
that have happened out there. I'd have to get with

1222
01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:42.039
those guys and ask them if it's okay. Yeah, no,

1223
01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:43.039
I talk to them.

1224
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:46.960
I respect that. Yeah, absolutely, you always want to check that. Yep, yep.

1225
01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:50.520
Just you know, all these buddies I talk about it

1226
01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:54.520
was with me. I didn't ask them, and I you know,

1227
01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:57.960
with the amount of crappy git from talking about this stuff,

1228
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:02.760
I hate to drop start dropping and and everything without

1229
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:03.920
anybody's permission.

1230
01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:06.479
Yeah, to tell you the truth, I would edit. I

1231
01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:10.359
usually end up editing the names out more recently, just

1232
01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:13.439
because it's like, I mean, if it's if it's secondhand

1233
01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:19.600
stuff you never know, right, and especially a weird name, Yeah,

1234
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:20.760
track those down.

1235
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:24.880
So uh yeah, like like my name with my name,

1236
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:27.640
I mean it's like everybody's going to know exactly who

1237
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.520
who's talking here. It's not like a like a Brian

1238
01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:33.600
where there's a gazillion Brian's. But yeah, there's not too

1239
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:35.119
many Lyles out there.

1240
01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:39.960
Lyle, this has been a we got we got to have.

1241
01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:42.720
If you're up for, we got to have another conversation.

1242
01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:49.359
I've got a whole list of Yeah, yeah, we could

1243
01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:51.560
definitely talk again if you're up for. I'd love to

1244
01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:54.760
talk to you about your family's experiences.

1245
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:57.319
And like I said, there's a lot more.

1246
01:22:57.800 --> 01:23:01.640
Okay, yeah, we got to have you back. I appreciate

1247
01:23:01.640 --> 01:23:07.399
you spending some time on your Saturday talking about some

1248
01:23:07.479 --> 01:23:13.039
of my favorite areas in this part of Oregon. That's

1249
01:23:13.119 --> 01:23:17.319
been very, very eye opening that I haven't heard much

1250
01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:21.079
from the Three Creeks area, so that's pretty cool. But yeah,

1251
01:23:21.119 --> 01:23:23.399
we will be in touch, Lyle, And thank you so

1252
01:23:23.479 --> 01:23:24.560
much for coming on the show.

1253
01:23:25.960 --> 01:23:28.079
All Right, well, I appreciate it. Thank you, Jeremiah, you

1254
01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:28.560
got it.

1255
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:31.960
Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank

1256
01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:36.000
you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

1257
01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:39.319
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1258
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1263
01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:00.319
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1264
01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:03.159
had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or know

1265
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:07.439
someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

1266
01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:10.920
Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

1267
01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:16.520
Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

1268
01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:22.199
McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

1269
01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:26.039
the north part. If you get what I mean, I'll

1270
01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:29.600
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