March 19, 2026

A Retired Military Veteran Shares His Face-to-Face Sasquatch Encounter in Gifford Pinchot National Forest

A Retired Military Veteran Shares His Face-to-Face Sasquatch Encounter in Gifford Pinchot National Forest
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Season 1

In this episode, we delve into the remarkable experiences of Danny, a retired military veteran who spent years exploring the rugged backcountry surrounding Carson, Washington, deep within the forests of the Gifford Pinchot National Forest. Drawn to the wilderness for hiking, fishing, and searching for historic mining sites, Danny recounts a trip in the summer of 2004 that led to events he never expected to witness.


While navigating remote logging roads and creeks in the mountains of Skamania County, Danny describes strange activity that unfolded over the course of a single trip into the forest. A quiet night in camp turned unsettling after something large made its presence known in the darkness. The following day brought another discovery along an abandoned road that suggested something massive had recently passed through the area.


Later that afternoon, deep along a secluded forest road, Danny found himself standing only a short distance away from something he initially believed was part of the landscape itself. As the moment unfolded, he realized he was looking at something entirely different.


Danny shares the details of that encounter, the environment where it happened, and what stood out most about the creature he observed. 


Join us as we explore Danny’s experience in the remote wilderness of Washington and the moment that left a lasting impression on how he views the forests of the Pacific Northwest.


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You're listening to BIGFA Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all.

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Right, Big for Society. You've got the privilege of talking

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to Danny today. Danny's an individual, he's got a military background.

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So first off, Danny, thank you for your service and

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thank you for being here.

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How are you doing today, sir, I'm doing fantastic.

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Thanks for having me.

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Here, awesome, and thank you.

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I am really excited to hear what your encounters were.

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We will be going to the Skamania County area, I

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believe Gifford Pinchot National Forest, which you know is whenever

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we're able to go there in the show. It is

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usually a much appreciated episode from listeners. But you know, Danny,

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is there anything else that we would need to know

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about you besides that you are an individual with some

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military background.

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Know that about does it? Yeah? That sums it up.

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Military did twenty one years, to be exact. I retired

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out last year on the fifteenth of September, and now

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I'm just living through the memories of serving my country

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and pushing forward right now. And I'm just here now

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to give my testimony on what happened to me in

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the Gifford Forest.

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Absolutely, and I know we've talked a little bit before

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we got started. This is a pretty intense one. There's

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a lot to this, so I want to make sure

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that you have the time to share. And I might

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be asking questions along the way perhaps, but you'll feel

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free to take us back. I know you have a

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starting point in mind, and we will go from there, sir.

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Perfect, Okay, So I'll start it off those I was

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in Carson, Washington, living that's right outside of Stevenson. For context,

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this happened in the summer of two thousand and four.

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If I recall correctly, it was July or August, but

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it was full full swing in the summertime. And I

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had an affinity for this forest. I went to this

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forest as often as I possibly could, hunting, hiking, fishing,

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you name it, because all of that is there. So

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on this particular time, I had a timeline of actually

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being out there for about three or four days. I

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would usually go out there with what it's called a

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three DAP day assault pack or a rucksack. I'd fill

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it up with everything that I needed, and I would

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go out there and I would I would do what

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I would do. I would fish for trout, I would hike,

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and I would discover things. But on this particular time

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that I was going out there, I was actually going

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out there to look for a mine, an old silver mine,

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and I knew it's approximate location. And the mine was

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called the Foxy Baker Mine. It was from the late

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eighteen hundreds and it was a big, big silver producing

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mine that was in the Gifford Forest way up at

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the end of a logging road called Road forty two. Now,

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at this time, I went up to Trapper Creek, and

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to get access to Trapper Creek here in the forest,

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you would have to go up a road, the wind

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River Road. You go way out at the end of

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this Wind River Road to get access into the Gifford Forest,

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and that would take you down through Trapper Creek, and

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if you kept going down, you eventually get to a

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little bridge. And for people who have been out there,

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they know exactly what I'm talking about. You'll get to

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a bridge where it's called Canyon Creek. And at Canyon

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Creek you can go left or you can go right.

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If you go left, you'll be on a road called

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fifty three ten which connects to fifty three and it

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will go up to what's called the Canyon Creek Campground.

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And if you keep going up this way, eventually this

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road fifty three turns into an old service road called

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forty two ten, which ends up being a road forty

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two And if you keep going up fifty three, it

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wraps all the way around the mountain and goes past

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a place called Pelviy Creek and Jake's Creek. And if

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you'll look on the map in this area, you're in

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a place called the Tattooche Hills. And the Tatooshe Hills

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have a lot of activity that I didn't even know

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about until after this all happened. But we'll get into

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that and so I was, I was going up there,

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and I took the route from past Canyon Creek fifty

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three all the way around until fifty three basically turned

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into forty two because it connected at some point. And

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so what I did is I drove all the way

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up there. I finally parked in this big old it

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was a rock quarry, an old abandoned rock quarry that's

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way up there, and I backed my truck in to

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this little road, which would have been the beginning of

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forty two to ten. And so I knew this mine

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was around there, and I was looking for this mine,

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and I went down the road forty two where I

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had information that this mine was at. And I didn't

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actually end up finding the mine, but what I did

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find was I found an old plaque, a super super

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old plaque that was it was hammered to a tree

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and it was still there by sheer luck. But what

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it was was it was a big piece of tin

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that said Foxy Baker on it, and it had like

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a map made on this tin. I couldn't read the

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map because it was so old, you know, from the

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puncture marks on it, but it was clearly a map.

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And so I had searched around the area and I

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was looking and I just could not find this mine.

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And so at that point I just said, well, you know,

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you can't win every time. So I'm just going to

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continue on doing what i'm doing, and I'm going to

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be out here for three days as planned, and I'm

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just going to go and I'm going to Now I'm

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going to find a place where I'm going to camp.

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So what I ended up doing is on Road forty two,

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I just I kept walking down it. I got down

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it probably oh, I would say, maybe maybe three quarters

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of a mile, and when I got down to a

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certain point where it kind of turned off to the left,

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it was still the same road. There was an area

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that was it had like a waterfall. It wasn't a

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big waterfall, but it was big enough where if I

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literally went and stood under it, I would be completely soaked.

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So I found myself a water source and I was like, Okay,

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this is where I'm going to camp. But I didn't

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want to be actually on the logging road itself where

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this waterfall was. So I said, okay, well, the water's

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coming downhill, there's enough pressure where it's making this big waterfall.

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So there's probably a lot more water up above, so

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I'm going to climb up, which I did. It was

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maybe a forty five degree incline, maybe a little steeper,

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but not so hard where I couldn't negotiate the incline.

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So I took myself and my rucksack and the gear

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that I had, and also I was carrying a Remington

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eight seventy shotgun as well, just because you never know

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what's going to happen out there. And I climbed all

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the way up and I got to a point where

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it had leveled out. It plateaued out, but then it

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would keep going up. But where I was at was

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it was about fifteen or twenty feet away from this

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which was now just a smaller creek that led into

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this waterfall. I was in a flat area, right next

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to a bunch of old growth evergreens, And I said, okay,

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this is going to be the perfect place just to

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sit up camp. I'm at an elevated position. Anything that

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might happen would have to come from above or come

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from below, and coming from below you got to go uphill,

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so it's going to be a lot more difficult. And

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if you're coming down, well, I'm going to hear it

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because you're going to be crashing down the side of

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a mountain. So I basically I just set up camp

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there in my sleeping bag, which wasn't even really like

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a winter bag. It was more or less a summer

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bivvy bag because it was a summertime. And keep in mind,

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it was like eighty five ninety degrees out in the

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forest there even inside, because if I remember correctly, it

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was either the very endo July or early early August.

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But anyways, it was really really hot. So I set

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up my sleeping bag, I set up all my gear.

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I made a fire ring with a bunch of rocks

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that I got out of the creek, and I had

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a fire, did my thing, did my life, and nightfall

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came and then that's kind of when everything really started,

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and then everything changed dramatically. So what ended up happening

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is my fire. I kept it low. I didn't keep

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it high because you know, it was technically fire season

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and there could have been a fire if my fire

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got out of control in any way, which you didn't,

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So I let my fire die down, and darkness came

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probably around ten o'clock or so. I remember, just laying

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down in this flat spot, and it was really quiet,

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but you could hear the wind, you could hear you know,

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birds and everything else, basically the forest winding down for

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the night. So darkness came. I fell asleep and at

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some point in time, and I don't even know what time,

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I just know it was in the middle of the

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night because I woke up. I woke up in the

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middle of the night. And when I did wake up,

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it was it was just silence, like complete absolute silence.

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And usually even at night in the forest, you hear sounds,

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you do, whether it's insects or acoustic noises from the

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wind or something. You hear stuff. But but I heard

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nothing at all. I heard absolutely nothing, and I was

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I was laying on my back basically looking straight up

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at the sky, and I just had this this sense

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of of like of just a presence and and and

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I didn't move at all. I in my mind was, okay,

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I'm just I'll just lay here and and I'll just

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see what happens, or I'll fall asleep. But what what

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ended up happening is laying there for a few minutes,

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I like I had this impression that like something was

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coming my way, and it did. And in the form

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of it was a It was a rock. And and

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what I mean by a rock was, as I was

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laying there, I sensed something coming and I started hearing

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these noises like and then thud, a big, big thud,

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And I was like, what was that? But this thud

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was literally within two feet of my head, big big thud,

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and I didn't move, I didn't do anything at all.

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And after that happened, I replayed it in my mind

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of exactly what happened. And so what this sound was

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is it was a rock. There was a rock thrown

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is basically what I'm telling you. There was a rock

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thrown from probably above me. And the sounds of these

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like crashes with a rock coming through the tree canopy

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and like hitting tree branches and stuff and leaves before

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it impacted on the ground. And so I deduced that

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is what had happened. And I thought, I'm like, how

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did that happen? Did a rock come tumbling down? Like,

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It's just not possible. That's not possible anyways, So what

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ended up happening. I eventually just fell back asleep. The

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very next morning, I wake up. The first thing I

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do is I look over to see exactly what it

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was that fell, because I was pretty sure it was

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a rock, but I couldn't see anything. I didn't turn

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a flashlight on or nothing in the middle of the night.

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So I look over, and sure enough, right on my

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left hand side, I kid you not, there was a

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river rock. A river rock probably the size of like

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a fourteen inch frying pan in circumference. And for those

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of you who know what a river rock is, we

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all know they're really soft and they're flat because they've

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been in water or around water for so long that

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it's just completely flat, like the rock and softened it up.

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And I told myself, like, how did a river rock

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come all the way to where I am? When there's

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no rivers? There's creeks and large creeks around here, like

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Pelvie Creek, Jake's Creek, and Canyon Creek, but where I am,

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those water sources were miles away from from where I

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actually was, and so I just I didn't brush it off.

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I just thought it was like, really really strange because

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there was there was no other rock like that in

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my close vicinity or even two or three miles in proximity.

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There was just none, So I just chalked it up to, well,

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you know, there's a rock and it fell through the

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canopy and it landing on the ground right next to

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my head. And that's what happened. I don't know how

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it happened, but that's what happened. So this is the

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next day. I pack up all of my stuff and

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I continue. I get out of there is basically what

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I did. So I went back down the hill, back

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down where this waterfall was on the road forty two,

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and I started just walking the road. And it's like

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I said in the beginning, forty two and fifty three

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they both connect into like a gigantic circle. So I

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was going down forty two all the way till I

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got finally back down to where road fifty three was.

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And at that point, like I was, I was at

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the where Pelviy Creek actually connected to Canyon Creek. If

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you look this up on Google Earth, you'll see exactly

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where I was and the exact location of where I was.

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So at this point, I take a break. I'm hanging out.

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You know, I didn't find the mine. I wasn't disappointed.

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I was just making do with my time and being

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out there My plan was to be out there for

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three days, and that's what I fully intended to do,

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was to be out there for three days, regardless of

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if I found the mine or if I didn't find

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the mine. So I'm at Canyon Creek now and I'm

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on Road fifty three and I'm walking down in my goal. Now,

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I told myself I was going to go down to

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the Canyon Creek Campground. Now, the Canyon Creek Campground isn't

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probably a traditional campground that you're thinking about where you

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go and you take your family. It's quite literally just

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a place that you can camp quite literally in the

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middle of nowhere. And it just happens to be called

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Canyon Creek Campground because it's on Canyon Creek and the

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people do a lot of trout fishing at this campground.

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So I just told myself, I'm going to go down

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to Canyon Creek and I'm just going to see what

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I can get myself into down there, hang out at

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Canyon Creek for the day, and then see what happens.

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So what I did, like I said, I started walking

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down Road fifty three and it went around the corner

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to the right, and then it kind of started doing

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it like a gigantic snake, like that's how the road looked.

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But it was at a decline, so it wasn't at

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such a decline where like you're literally like you're going

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on a straight pitch incline down. It was an incline

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where if you looked down the road, you saw that

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the road slowly sloped down and winded around and did

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its thing. It was just such a gradual decline that

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you didn't really feel it at all. Walking You still

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felt like you were walking straight, but you actually weren't.

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So I'm walking down fifty three and I get around

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the first bend, which was from my right going into

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the left, and then coming back out of that, it

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turned to the right and then went kind of straight down,

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like it went really straight for a while, and I

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could see the bottom of the road. It would it

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would turn off left again. But it was one of

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these logging roads that I'm sure you've seen it. I'm

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sure everybody has where you have if it's an old

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gravel logging road and you see where the tire tread

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would have been, but in the middle there's grass. I

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don't know if you've seen that or know what I'm

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talking about, but.

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Usually down this absolutely yeah.

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Yeah. So it was just like that. There was a big,

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big strip of grass that was all down this road.

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And so when I came around the corner and I

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was looking, I noticed in the strip of this grass

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there were there were footprints, like at least ten twelve footprints,

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and it probably went for like maybe fifteen or twenty yards,

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but there was only like ten or twelve of them.

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So it was like a very big stride. And I

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stopped just for a minute, and I'm looking on this

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grass strip, and I'm like, why are there footprints in

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the middle of this road in the middle of the day.

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Keep in mind, I think it was about three point

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thirty in the afternoon. And so I'm looking and I

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walk up to these footprints and I get right up

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to them, I get right on them. And these were

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clearly you could see tow prints and an entire footprint

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the circumference of it that I would say was probably

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six maybe seven inches wide and probably fifteen inches minimal

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fifteen inches long. But here's the really creepy, creepy part.

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This was the part that like I understood that like

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this is definitively a sasquatch and a bigfoot. So I

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bent down, Jeremiah to look at these footprints that were

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made on this grass. And what was so creepy about

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this is when I looked at these footprints, Jeremiah, I

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could actually see the grass starting to come up again,

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like whatever stepped on these foot like made these tracks,

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had just been there and the grass was beginning to

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retake its own form again. And so I was looking

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at this because I was watching this in real time.

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I saw the footprints and then I watched them all disappear.

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After about ten minutes, they were all gone because the

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grass had recomposed itself and it just went back to

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being grass. And if I would have been any later

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or any earlier, I never even would have saw them

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at all. So once that happened, I was really spooked.

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I was really really spooked at that point because I

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completely registered like what it was, like I definitively knew

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that this is what it was, and there was there

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was no other doubts in my mind at all that

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this was one hundred percent, unequivocally a sasquatch or bigfoot

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or scook them or whatever you want to call it.

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That's that's what it was. So at that point, like

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I said, I had a Remington An eight seventy with me.

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I had every other shell. It was a double out

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buck and slugs, and so I put one in the

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pipe and I just kept going down the logging road

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UH fifty three, and I was still on my way

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to Canyon Creek. I was still going to do that.

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I was still determined, and I wasn't going to be deterred.

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And that's that. So at that point, you know, I'm

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going down road fifty three, still walking along, probably twenty

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minutes passes by, you know, because there's a lot of

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ground to cover. Those those winds out there in the mountains.

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They don't seem like a lot, but it takes a

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lot of effort to make a couple of miles when

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these roads just wind and zigzag and wind. So going

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down I get to another straightaway. But basically this straightaway

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was like it was like covered by the trees, Like

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the tree canopy actually shadowed the road, so you couldn't

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you couldn't see the sunlight coming through the canopy. You

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could like see like rays of light and things coming through,

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but it was a real thick, thick area on this road,

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and it was it was a little a little windy,

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and it wasn't gravel in grass anymore. It was it

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was dirt. But you could tell that like each season

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that this part of the road always got flooded and

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always turned to mush or mud, you know, and then

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as as the spring and the summer would come, it

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would harden and it would reform until the rain came

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again and it turned it into the goop. And so

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that's that's what the road looked like. And you could

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see all these potholes and old old truck treadmarks and

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and all these things, but they were now they were dry,

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and it was all hard and dry. And on the

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side of the of where this was, you could actually

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see where the washout was. So all the rain or

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you know, all the precipitation and everything that would flood

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this road, you could see where the irrigation was and

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the drainage from when it would dry up and when

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it would just buy gravity take the water and continue

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lead down the decline on the side of this. And

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this is the whole road, by the way, it was

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it was all wash out. So the land, the topography

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of it was.

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The sides were all washed out, but about six feet

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is where like it would be re established as like

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maybe flat ground with trees and things because of the

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wash out.

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So if you could just imagine that, you walk up

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to the side of it, you look up and about

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six feet you see a bunch of tree roots and

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all the stuff hanging out the side, and then all

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of a sudden, it's just flat ground up above. That's

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exactly what it looked like. So I kept walking down

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and probably about twenty five maybe thirty feet. It couldn't

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have been further away. I was coming just at a quarner.

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I would have been slightly turning to my left, and

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in this drainage ditch. What I thought it was and

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what I saw, I saw this gigantic like I don't know,

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it seemed like every single color like like auburn, like reds, blondes,

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light brown, dark brown with different flecks of like blonde.

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I just saw this big, giant mass and my mind

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what I registered at just looking at it instantly, what

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I thought it was was. I thought it was like

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a dead fall. I thought it was a tree that

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like had broken off at like ten feet and then

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the bottom of the base of the tree. That was

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what was left. And I'm sure everybody has seen a

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dead fall, you know, the tree will get heart rot

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or something will happen to get hit by lightning and

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it finally dies and then it rots from the inside

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out and then it falls over and it's dead. And

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that's that's what I thought I saw. I thought I

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saw a tree just like that. So I just I

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took it like one or two more steps forward, thinking

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I had the assurance of like, okay, yeah, that's what

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that is. And then all of a sudden, this form

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that I thought was a tree like it made a

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swivel movement like it it was facing not facing towards me,

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or maybe it was. I don't know, because I didn't

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actually see a face in all of this mass, but

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it made a swivel movement, so I presume that it

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turned to face me. But it was so camouflaged, it

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was so perfectly in this perfect color striation and formation

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that even when it turned, it was all one motion.

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It wasn't like the torso moved and arms moved and

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legs moved. It was like it just it just turned around.

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It all in one solid, fluid movement and That's when

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I completely stopped and and it was absolutely a sasquatch.

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And like I was telling you, it was all of

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these colors and the sun these little specs of like

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light that were coming through the canopy that you could

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see it would like hit on it on the on

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the fur or the hair. It wasn't fur. When I

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think of fur, I just think of like really really

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small amount of hair like on a rabbit. It wasn't fur.

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It was it was definitively hair. But you could see

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on on the areas of this this this sasquatch that

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I I was absolutely looking at that. Where the light

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hit it, it completely changed the color of the of

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the hair from the other hair. It was. It was

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almost like like the light gave it this prismatic effect

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where it absorbed the environment around it and it became

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that color it. I don't know if that makes sense,

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and maybe it's hard to explain, but that's that's what

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it was. And I was looking at it, and at

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that point in time, like I know, I was like

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making like eye contact with it. Did I actually see

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facial features? No? No, And I did not. I didn't

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I did not see cheap like skin or I didn't

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see a chin or anything, but I knew the area

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that I looked was looking at was was its face,

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because I did see its eyes. The eyes I did see,

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And I've heard a lot of people say that the

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shape is this way or the color is that way.

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That might be so for for those people, but for me,

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it was jet black, obsidian black, completely black, probably the

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00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:10.960
size of a lemon, about that size, very very very

460
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.119
very very large. And at that point I could start

461
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:19.000
deciphering its actual true size because it was it was

462
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:28.079
so naturally camouflage that you couldn't actually accent the true

463
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:32.480
size of what I was looking at. But after, you know,

464
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:36.720
standing there for it seemed like an eternity, but it

465
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:42.279
probably wasn't more than twenty seconds, I could completely see

466
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.640
its figure. I saw its arms, I saw its legs,

467
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:48.880
I saw where its head would have been. And I

468
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.880
know some people say there's necks and all that I

469
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:56.920
saw absolutely no neck. There was no neck. It literally

470
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:01.480
looked like it's trapezius muscle in its back. It all.

471
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:05.519
It's almost like its face would have just been planted

472
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:10.079
on the front of its traps and then that's where

473
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:13.519
the head head was. There was absolutely no neck, but

474
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:17.200
if there was, I didn't see it under any hair

475
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:23.039
at all. And so I was standing there looking at that,

476
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:26.920
and I was thinking, like, man, what am I going

477
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:29.720
to do? And I don't know what it was thinking.

478
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:34.799
But again, this only this probably only really truly lasted

479
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:39.799
about twenty seconds. It seemed like a lot longer, and

480
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:44.720
I didn't count. I wasn't paying attention to that. There

481
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.400
was no cell phones. I think maybe there would have

482
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.240
been a flip phone in two thousand and four, but

483
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:53.279
I can't even remember. I had no pictures, no none

484
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.279
of that, and I wasn't even thinking about that. I

485
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.400
wasn't thinking about shooting it. I wasn't thinking about the

486
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:04.759
shotgun to it, because I think you know, when you're

487
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.559
in that close ap proximity of seeing something like this,

488
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:13.880
you quickly rationalize to yourself that, okay, we understand that

489
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:19.160
a Remington eight seventy twelve gage shotgun will kill most

490
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:24.079
anything in the forest, but it won't probably do much

491
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:27.440
to this at all, and if anything, it will just

492
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.880
upset it. That's that's what I deduced. So I didn't

493
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:35.319
do anything at all. So after this time elapses, which

494
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:38.599
again I think it was about twenty seconds. What happened

495
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:44.799
after that is since this this sasquatch was looking at

496
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.880
me and it was right next to this irrigation part

497
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:54.640
where where it was approximately six feet but where this

498
00:31:54.759 --> 00:32:02.119
thing probably right above it's probably this hip area that

499
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.599
was in line with the top of where like the

500
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:09.119
ground would have flattened out again. And so the rest

501
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:12.039
of the top of the portion of this sasquatch that

502
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.119
I was looking at it was easily three feet above

503
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:22.799
easily And for me, I'm only five foot seven, so

504
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.720
there's I can't even stand next to a place like

505
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:30.319
this and even get near to see it being six

506
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.839
feet So what ended up happening then is this It

507
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.400
literally and this this is crazy too, because I didn't

508
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:42.079
even see it bend its legs or anything at all.

509
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:49.000
It literally was completely static, stationary, and it's like it

510
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:53.240
jumped straight up in the air right on top of

511
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:59.000
this flat area and was gone, just gone. I didn't

512
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:04.519
see any kind of like a squatting motion to even

513
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:08.759
do a squat jump. I didn't see anything, absolutely none

514
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:12.599
of that. It was literally just there and then all

515
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:16.079
of a sudden it was up above there. And I'm

516
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.119
not saying a teleporter or any nonsense like that. It

517
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:23.119
didn't do that. It jumped, but it did it in

518
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:26.400
such a fluid way that like it was, it was

519
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:29.839
just effortless. It was completely effortless. That's that's what I

520
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.039
would say. And then it took off. It went, it

521
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.440
ran straight, and I didn't see it when it was running.

522
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:41.359
I saw it for like that split second. But as

523
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.720
it was running, you could hear it crashing like there

524
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:49.119
was there was things breaking all through the forest, until

525
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:54.519
you didn't hear that sound anymore at all. And that

526
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:58.519
that's when I decided, right then and there that my

527
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:03.799
three day trip was completely over with. And right then

528
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:08.079
and there I had completely turned around. I went back

529
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.599
up fifty three, back to forty two and back to

530
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.760
my my truck the same day and I left, and

531
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:20.039
I actually I have not been back there since, but

532
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:24.280
I've really I've been dying to go back there, to

533
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:29.880
that particular spot, but I just have it. It's the

534
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:33.199
years have gone by, and you know, life happens, and

535
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:38.719
I just haven't been back. But that's that's what happened

536
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:43.440
out there, and that's exactly how that went down. And

537
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:48.639
since then, you know, I'm not like scared out of

538
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:51.840
my mind or anything like the big bad sasquatch is

539
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:53.719
gonna get you if you go in the four Nothing

540
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:58.360
like that at all. Was I afraid? Yeah, I definitively

541
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:04.280
was afraid, be you know, a fool to say I wasn't.

542
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.840
Was I terrified out of my mind that it ruined

543
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:10.199
my love for the outdoors or going out there? No,

544
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:16.760
it didn't. It didn't at all. It's circumstantial that that's

545
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.519
just what happened. And I've heard so many people's encounters

546
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:26.440
that were bad, some are good for me personally, I

547
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:32.199
didn't have. I don't consider this a negative encounter. I

548
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.360
didn't feel like my life was in danger. I didn't

549
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:39.360
feel like my life was threatened, and I didn't actually

550
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:45.760
even feel unsafe. I just felt afraid for what maybe

551
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:50.480
could have happened. But nothing did happen at all. The

552
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.800
only thing that happened was I had a rock thrown

553
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:58.039
at me, presumably at me or near me, And then

554
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.360
I saw these footprints in the ground that I saw

555
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.800
and then watch them disappear, not by magic but just

556
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.880
the environment retaking the grass. And then I saw a

557
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:12.559
sasquatch probably twenty five feet away from me, thinking it

558
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:17.920
was a deadfall, broken tree. And I don't have any

559
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:22.960
any more like fancy details or anything like that. That's

560
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:27.719
how it happened. That's that's what happened. And yeah, if

561
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.679
you have any questions or anything, feel free to ask.

562
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.960
Danny. What an incredible account. I mean, twenty five.

563
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.000
Feet is so so close. I mean that's the length

564
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.559
of like two smaller cars.

565
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.840
It was really close. Yeah, it was really close.

566
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:48.360
Some things I picked up while you were talking. So

567
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.480
and it's not like you saw this when you were

568
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.800
in your truck. I mean you're just out there on

569
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:57.639
a for service road. Yeah, you've got your you've got

570
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.639
your gun with you. But I mean this thing was

571
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.239
so big. I mean, how how tall? How wide across?

572
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:06.440
Would you say it was?

573
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.239
Again easily?

574
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.719
I mean height wise it could it was. It couldn't

575
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.239
have been less than nine feet. There's absolutely no way

576
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.159
was less than nine feet. That is one like I can,

577
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.079
I can, I can guarantee you that that was. It

578
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:28.360
was at least that's the minimal and the width wise

579
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:33.280
wise on it. Man, it it could have been up

580
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:37.440
to like five feet. It was enormous. It was big.

581
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.719
And like I said, when I first saw it, you know,

582
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:46.159
it didn't look as big because like I didn't focus it,

583
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:50.440
it didn't all come into focus because of just how

584
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:56.440
how the hair was. It accented and highlighted its anatomy

585
00:37:56.599 --> 00:38:00.239
so well that it actually hid the size. And hell,

586
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:05.480
I was able to really focus and then see the

587
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:09.360
individual anatomical shape of this sasquatch.

588
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:12.880
My goodness.

589
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:18.039
So I've been following along while you've been sharing, and

590
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:21.480
you've been really good with location stuff, and so I

591
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:25.679
was able to really get the area for people that

592
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.480
might be listening in their car that aren't able to

593
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:32.639
There's a few interesting things about that location. So this

594
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:37.400
is like the western side of the Gifford Pinchot National

595
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:42.079
National Forest. But yeah, if listeners know of the Silver

596
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.920
Star Bigfoot photos that were taken in and I had

597
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:50.840
this individual on my show a while back. This was

598
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:55.119
seven to twenty six episode that was about twenty miles

599
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.840
south of where Danny is. And then you may have

600
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:00.920
also heard of Koup, Washington.

601
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:04.079
Yeah, yeah, really active area right out there.

602
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:08.280
Yeah, exactly, Cougar. I mean that's where Robert W. Morgan

603
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:11.840
was for his documentary back in the seventies. That's about

604
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.840
ten or so miles northwest of where Danny is right

605
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.599
now out in the woods. So he's he's far out there,

606
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.000
I mean, yeah, just getting out of there easy.

607
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:25.679
No, no, you know, I mean the only time you

608
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:29.719
see anybody out there is somebody who's got really good

609
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:34.199
suspension and they're driving a manual five speed truck and

610
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.760
they know the area because you get out there on

611
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.719
those service roads, you take a wrong turn and it's

612
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:44.000
quite literally it's it's the wrong turn. And if you're

613
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:48.159
out there in the in the fall, snow comes early

614
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.480
out there, as early as October. And I've been out

615
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:56.039
there even in early early November and there's easily four

616
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:58.320
or five feet of snow already out there.

617
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:00.920
Oh my goodness.

618
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:09.320
So you've got the you've got the eight seventy in hand. Yeah,

619
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:13.079
when that when the bigfoots in front of you twenty

620
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:18.199
five feet at that point, do you feel like, let's say,

621
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:20.760
if you even had to use the eight seventy, do

622
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.239
you think it wouldn't even would it have even made

623
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:23.800
a difference.

624
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:30.559
Not a chance, not a chance. I mean all that

625
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.599
would have done. Yeah, it definitely it would have penetrated

626
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:37.760
for sure. It would have done its job with double

627
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:43.280
lot buck and slug, but penetrating, I don't think it

628
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:47.320
would have done anything. It probably would have been considerably

629
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:51.480
the same as if you shot a bear in the

630
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:56.639
winter time with probably double lot buck. The absolute most

631
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:59.320
it's gonna do is it's going to just lodge those

632
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:03.760
those be which are actually nine to nine millimeter balls.

633
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.039
It will just lodge him in the bear's fat. It

634
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.159
won't even do anything. It won't penetrate, it won't kill.

635
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:13.400
So if it will do that to a bear with

636
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:21.280
with double lot buck, there's absolutely nothing it's gonna do

637
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:25.360
to a Sasquatch. It didn't even cross my mind. It

638
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.760
just didn't. It's it would have been out of the

639
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.920
question that that would just Yeah, it would be like

640
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:37.480
I don't know, like shooting a BB gun at like

641
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:41.360
an F fifteen fighter thinking you're gonna shoot it down. Yeah.

642
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:42.039
Absolutely.

643
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.599
I think it all comes down to, you know, having

644
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.199
the right equipment and being prepared and like, I know,

645
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:51.360
some people in this this field are really good at that.

646
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:53.559
You know some people that come to mind right away,

647
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:55.880
got Jesse and Joe from Hell Ben Holler are there

648
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:56.480
really good?

649
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:57.920
I don't know, have you ever seen their stuff?

650
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:03.480
Danny? You know honestly, there's there's so many things that

651
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:07.360
are out there. I try to I try to really

652
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.800
listen to them all like, but it's it's just so

653
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.960
hard to do. I know who they are, I've seen

654
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:16.199
some of their stuff, but I get I get so

655
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:21.480
lost in in tracking whose channel is what, and who's

656
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.800
done this and who's done that. But there are five

657
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:31.239
or six like channels that I consistently follow. Theirs isn't.

658
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:34.119
I don't know it as well, but I definitively know

659
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.480
about about that channel. Yeah.

660
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.440
Absolutely, So you're saying that you actually want to come

661
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:43.159
back to this area someday, Oh.

662
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:46.960
Yeah, yeah, I do. And and and it's not like

663
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:50.039
I was saying, it's not to go searching for a sasquatch.

664
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:52.960
It's not to do that. It's not to go looking

665
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:57.239
for sasquatch. It's not to go bother a sasquatch and

666
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:03.639
create problems and disbalance in the forest. It's only quite honestly,

667
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.239
I want to find this mine, this old silver mine

668
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.920
that's out there, because the information that I have on

669
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.800
it is that there's still tracks, and there's still silver

670
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:14.719
carts and all this really cool stuff in this mind.

671
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:18.679
So so that's really the reason why I want to

672
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.599
go back, which I haven't for years, and the reason

673
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:24.800
why I was actually out there in the first place

674
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:29.559
was for that. But I do want to absolutely go back,

675
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:33.199
and I do, you know, want to search for this mine.

676
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:40.559
But also I'm definitely interested in like discovering something. I

677
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.599
don't know what I'm looking for, you know. I don't

678
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.360
want to say I'm going to go out there looking

679
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.760
for tracks or looking for bigfoot, but I definitely want

680
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.480
to go back out there. Yeah, one hundred percent.

681
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.119
That's awesome being that close to sasquash, which is just

682
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.320
crazy to think about.

683
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.519
It's wild.

684
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:06.280
Did you notice did you smell anything out of the

685
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:11.199
ordinary or hear any you know, like any noises. It

686
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:14.519
was making things like that, no.

687
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:18.760
No, and that. Yeah. That's another component to this, because

688
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:25.079
I've heard countless stories of pungent, horrible, terrible smells and

689
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:33.400
odors and grunting and respirations and the sound of heavy breathing.

690
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:39.320
I heard none of that, and I smell absolutely nothing nothing.

691
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:44.400
The day was was really really hot. It was in

692
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:47.000
the afternoon, Like I said, I think it was probably

693
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.199
three point thirty in the afternoon, if my memory serves me. Right,

694
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.800
and there was no wind, and it was about eighty

695
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:59.239
five or ninety degrees completely still. I smell absolutely nothing,

696
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:02.239
nothing at all. Wow.

697
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:10.559
You alluded to it earlier where you have found other

698
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:16.039
things that have occurred in this area of the Gifford Pinchot,

699
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:22.599
But have you have you found other people having experiences

700
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.639
that are documented in this exact area that you were at.

701
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:35.679
In this area, I personally don't know anybody that had

702
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:41.199
some experience or something in this particular area. But in

703
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:46.679
other parts of the Gifford they have had I've had

704
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:50.519
friends like that Elk cut that have had experiences like

705
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:56.159
this out in Trapper Creek. And I know you mentioned

706
00:45:56.199 --> 00:46:01.400
silver Star out near Silver Star and I have I

707
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:05.920
have a friend, well, I haven't talked to him in years. Uh,

708
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.800
maybe he doesn't even live in town anymore. I don't

709
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.079
even know. But he he was elk hunting up by

710
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.559
If you look on your map there, if you're looking

711
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.719
at it, if you look for a place called Zigzag Lake,

712
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:24.840
he was up hunting up at Zigzag and he got it.

713
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:27.679
He downed an elk, He got a big elk, and

714
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.960
when he went up to get his elk, his elk

715
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:36.360
was gone. The body was taken by not a bear,

716
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:41.599
that for sure not a bear, because the elk it

717
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:45.639
fell halfway in into Zigzag Lake. It died there right there,

718
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.840
and he saw it from from a probably three hundred

719
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:54.760
four hundred meters away. Once he downed this elk, and

720
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.159
when when he was going to it, he saw something

721
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.880
come out of the forest, this elk, this bull elk

722
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:05.519
at Zigzag Lake and take it wherever it took it

723
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:09.039
and gone took his elk, lost his tag, and that

724
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:10.119
was it for his season.

725
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:13.199
My goodness.

726
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:17.840
So, and I can't remember how we haven't really gotten

727
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:20.800
this specific. So let's just say you're very familiar with

728
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:25.159
this area, Oh yeah, earlier in life? Is it more

729
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:29.079
common knowledge? Is everyone in this area know that there's

730
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:31.800
something out there in the woods and when you get

731
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:33.360
out there, you just gotta be ready?

732
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:37.679
Yeah, one hundred percent. I know it's silly for people

733
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:41.599
to say that they speak for others, but in this case, definitely,

734
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:46.280
everybody in Carson knows. It's it's one of those things

735
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.679
where everybody knows, but nobody, nobody talks too much about it.

736
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:54.000
And in Stevenson, the little town just right next door

737
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:57.320
from Carson, I think it's like twelve miles away as

738
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:02.119
the Crow Flies in Stevenson, and they have a Sasquatch Cafe,

739
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.760
a little Sasquatch museum, and they have gigantic carvings that

740
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:12.119
people make out of trees of sasquatch, and they have

741
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:16.760
roads named after Sasquatch all over in Stevenson. It's it's

742
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:20.639
very very common knowledge. It's it's very common people know.

743
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.800
You go out to you go out to the Gifford,

744
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:31.000
especially in this area, nine out of ten times, something

745
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.679
is going to happen, whether you're looking for it or not.

746
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.119
And in this in this area also when I was

747
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:42.679
telling you earlier, between Pelvy Creek and Jake's Creek, there's

748
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:48.639
a big range called the Tattooche Hills. Now I didn't realize.

749
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:54.000
I only realized after doing research, but an indigenous Native

750
00:48:54.039 --> 00:49:01.960
American Tattooche actually means like Sasquatch. So the tattoos Hills

751
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:05.800
are named like the Sasquatch Hills. And I didn't even

752
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:10.880
make that connection until I started researching the indigenous tribes

753
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:16.840
that were in this area and why they named it. That.

754
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:22.199
That's wild, I mean, and crazily enough or oddly enough,

755
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.039
that is something that you find in these areas of

756
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:28.880
the Pacific Northwest, and like so much so that a gentleman,

757
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:32.280
his name is Henry Franzoni, he wrote an entire book

758
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:35.519
about this you can get on Amazon, about how all

759
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.559
these different places in the Pacific Northwest and actually all

760
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.360
over the US have weird words like you know, Ape

761
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:46.199
Canyon or Devil's Mountain or Devil's Creek and just all

762
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:49.840
these like or old, old Native American words too that

763
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.360
have meeting, but we just have never learned them, and

764
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.360
we've never bothered to look them up unless you, like

765
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:56.360
you did yourself.

766
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:59.199
But have you heard of people.

767
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:02.119
Having experiences in the Tattoos Hills as well?

768
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:08.639
Yeah, I can. I can for myself. If you want

769
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.320
to go into that for a little bit, I probably

770
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:15.519
won't take too long. But myself, yeah, I saw some

771
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:19.480
really some actually I saw a footprint up there in

772
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:24.000
the Tattoos Hills, and I'll try to describe it. I

773
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:27.000
know we're not on camera or anything, but hopefully you'll

774
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.800
be able to visualize. So I went up on the

775
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:34.599
Tattoos Hills because I wanted to. I really wanted to

776
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.039
see what was up there. And it's actually really, really

777
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.639
cool landscape, and I discovered that like the elk herds,

778
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:44.400
they'll go up on top of the backbone of the

779
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.719
tattoos Hills, and it seemed like they would use the

780
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:52.559
Tattoosh Hills as like a highway system above everything else,

781
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:56.599
as like a defensible measure to keep themselves in the

782
00:50:56.679 --> 00:51:01.800
herds safe, probably during the night from predators. So I

783
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.400
went up and I found a bunch of elk hooves,

784
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.239
and I found all kinds of tracks and stuff to

785
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:11.440
tell me that elk are definitely up here. And the

786
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:13.880
reason I did this is because, yeah, I'm a hunter

787
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.519
as well, and these are the kinds of things that

788
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:19.400
you do. You always want to get a big buck,

789
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:21.840
You always want to put meat on the table, and

790
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:23.280
the only way you're going to do that is if

791
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:26.159
you go out and you look for places like this.

792
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:29.440
So I was. I was actually doing that. And this

793
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.559
is on an entirely separate time. This isn't even the

794
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:37.159
same day or the same month, the year, the same week.

795
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.840
So I was on the Tattoosh right on the backbone,

796
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:45.480
and I got pretty far to the backbone's end where

797
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:47.800
it would then just come down the mountain. And if

798
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:53.679
you look on on your Google Earth. You'll see where

799
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:57.599
that road fifty three it turns all the way around

800
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.400
and then starts going down. Well, that that's where the

801
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:03.679
end of the Tattoosh Hills is starting to happen at

802
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:09.599
So oddly enough, I was I was getting towards the

803
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:13.880
end of it on the backbone, and nature called right.

804
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:19.000
I was taking a leak. I was standing on the backbone,

805
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:23.159
which was only maybe twenty thirty feet wide, and then

806
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:25.760
it's like drop off like down to the canyon on

807
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:28.880
both sides. So I'm on the backbone of it. I'm

808
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:32.400
taking a leak, and there's all these little bushes all

809
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:34.880
over the place. Can't I can't tell you what kind

810
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.280
of plants they were. They weren't trees, but they were.

811
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:42.440
They were bushes that were They looked like small little

812
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.920
trees with little leaves. I don't even know what they were,

813
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.760
but they were very, very thick. And I was in

814
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:50.280
the middle of them, and I was standing there taking

815
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:53.440
a leak, and all these leaves and things are in

816
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:56.599
front of my face, and I just happened to be

817
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:01.000
I just focused in on this cluster of leaves in

818
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:05.599
front of my face. Now, if you can imagine, there

819
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.880
was we all know, at the end of like a

820
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:12.159
little branch, you'll have one one little branch that will

821
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:14.119
go off to the left and like have a leaf

822
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:16.519
on it, and then one little branch will go out

823
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:19.599
to the right and have a leaf on it. Well,

824
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:24.039
I was looking straight ahead and I and I saw

825
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:26.920
this what I just described to you. But it was

826
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:31.239
split completely down the middle, perfectly right down the middle.

827
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:35.320
I don't know if you can envision that or imagine that,

828
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.920
but it was split. And I'll try to explain better.

829
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:44.039
It was as if somebody took their fingers and pinched

830
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:47.000
really hard on one side and the other and they

831
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:51.199
pulled it apart and split it. So I saw that,

832
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:53.920
and then I just kind of was looking around and

833
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:57.320
I noticed, Jeremiah, there was a line of them, like

834
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:02.599
every five feet of these little teeny tiny branches, all

835
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:07.199
split at the same level. And I was thinking, I

836
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:10.199
was like, I was like, the only way that these

837
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:13.559
little branches could be split is if you literally you

838
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:17.119
would have to have the strength to pull.

839
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:20.840
Them apart and then leave them like that. And I

840
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.639
thought it was the damnedest thing because it went all

841
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:27.360
the way down to the end of the backbone, all

842
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.280
these little tiny slits.

843
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:34.159
On this on these little branches. When I got down

844
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:37.760
to the bottom, almost the bottom, not the bottom, almost

845
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:41.559
the bottom of the backbone, down to to where Road

846
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:47.920
fifty e three wraps around to Tattoosh Hills, I found

847
00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:53.639
a perfect footprint, a perfect footprint, and it was so

848
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.599
perfect it was I just couldn't even believe like how

849
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:03.000
perfect it was. And it was in this there where

850
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:05.960
an old tree stump would have been, and it was

851
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:10.719
completely rotted. So you get, like, I don't know, just

852
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.320
a bunch of rotted tree and you know how it

853
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.360
becomes really really soft and if you just you could

854
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:18.480
grab a handful of it and it will crumble in

855
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:21.639
your in your hand. That's what the material looked like

856
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:25.480
where the tree stump was, and the footprint was right

857
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:28.599
in there, and and that, and it made the footprint

858
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:33.000
so perfect because that that the wood and that tree

859
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:38.360
stump had been so rotted and so decomposed that it

860
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:42.400
literally made like a perfect cast of a footprint in

861
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:46.280
this footprint. It wasn't it was not as nearly as

862
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:48.480
big as the one that I saw down on the

863
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:51.920
road down towards Canyon Creek, but it was like eleven

864
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:56.039
inches and there's no way that any human being is

865
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:59.440
walking around up there barefoot on the top of ta

866
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.559
two ships and made a footprint. It's just there's no way.

867
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:08.880
So that yeah, that's that's the extent of everything that

868
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:13.199
I've got from from this area myself. But there's a

869
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:14.840
lot of stuff happens up there.

870
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.800
That is that is wild stuff and how exciting that

871
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:23.840
in the future, you know, you are hopefully one day

872
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:27.119
going to be able to go back to this uh,

873
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:32.079
to this area. Yeah, I mean, what a what a

874
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:36.039
great conversation. I know you you have other maybe another

875
00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:38.760
story to share, but it sounds like it would probably

876
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:41.880
be for another day, just because of course, to make

877
00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:44.599
sure we have the right amount of time to share it.

878
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:47.760
Correct, definitely, Yeah, yeah, I have another one like yeah,

879
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:51.000
like we were talking about earlier that happened in Estacada

880
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:55.400
and this this one. Yeah, this is a really really

881
00:56:55.480 --> 00:57:00.039
really crazy story. Yeah, we won't get into it. But

882
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.639
like I said, if only I had the if I

883
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:05.039
only had the balls to just look out the window,

884
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:09.239
I would have absolutely seen something I probably didn't want

885
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:10.639
to see, that's for sure.

886
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:13.840
Right, absolutely, So you know, maybe we'll even have to

887
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.880
set up a second time for you to come on,

888
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:19.000
but a conversation maybe would be good to have for

889
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.760
a few minutes. Is you know, based on what you

890
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:26.760
experienced your twenty five feet away, yep? Did that give

891
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:34.239
you any feelings or thoughts about you know, what it

892
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:38.159
is that we're dealing with with what bigfoot is like?

893
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:40.880
Did you learn anything from being that close?

894
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:45.840
What I learned? And I know this is only my

895
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:50.760
individual experience. I can't speak for others. Is the experience

896
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:54.079
that I had. Of course it will be mine and

897
00:57:54.199 --> 00:58:01.599
only mine forever. But I no matter what people think

898
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:06.079
Sasquatch is or isn't, or what it truly is or

899
00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:14.880
what it truly isn't. Regardless of that, I think that well,

900
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:18.519
I know that it's real for sure. I know that

901
00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:21.920
there no no men in black can tell me it's not,

902
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:25.000
and nobody else can tell me it's not. I know

903
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:28.079
it's real. And since I know that it is real,

904
00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:33.599
I know that it's flesh and blood, and I don't

905
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:43.360
think it's some extraterrestrial origin teleports and all that. I've

906
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:46.039
heard some wild stuff and to each therone, I don't

907
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:49.639
judge anybody. Think what you want, that's not my problem.

908
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:59.119
But anyways, I think that Sasquatch, or it's family or

909
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:02.920
its clan, or it's tribe or whatever it is, I

910
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:06.960
don't think it wants problems with anybody, and I don't

911
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:10.559
think it wants to be bothered by anybody. And I

912
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:14.679
don't think it goes looking for problems either. But I

913
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:20.760
do think that when you hear these horror stories of sasquatch,

914
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:25.320
in my personal opinion, I think all these stories that

915
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:29.440
you hear about bad encounters and negative encounters, I think

916
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:32.639
there's elements of information that are left out of these

917
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:38.679
stories that led up to having a negative encounter with

918
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:42.519
a sasquatch, whether people want to admit it or not,

919
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:48.079
whether they even know or not, but we all know

920
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:52.960
if you provoke something, then you're going to get a reaction.

921
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:59.159
But it only comes from provocation, And so I think

922
00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:04.480
in in my opinion, I think a sasquatch in its

923
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:10.400
whole existence, is flesh and blood, very intelligent, and doesn't

924
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:14.360
want anything to do with anybody at all. Sasquatch isn't

925
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:16.880
coming out of the forest knocking on people's doors trying

926
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:24.559
to have conversations. It's always us as individuals or collectively

927
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:29.000
going out and like I said, having positive encounters or

928
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:32.119
having negative encounters, And I just think that the ones

929
01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:34.880
that are negative, I think there's a lot of missing

930
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:38.400
information that's being withheld from the person telling the story

931
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:42.519
that led up to having a bad experience. So that's

932
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:44.920
that's what I think. But I could be wrong. I

933
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:46.079
don't know. I'm no expert.

934
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:51.519
You know, that's an extremely interesting way to think about it. Yeah,

935
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:57.840
but with Danny such a such a great conversation, I mean, wow,

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thank you for taking the time to really share what

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was going on and where you were. And you know,

938
01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:11.840
let's definitely try to set up a time for you

939
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to come back on when you have the time to

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01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:16.599
share about Sdicata, Oregon.

941
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:20.840
Definitely, I'd love to. Yeah, I haven't really talked about

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01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:25.079
that with anybody besides my wife. And yeah, it's a

943
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:28.920
pretty crazy, pretty crazy story. Yeah, i'd like to share.

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Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

945
01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:35.480
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

946
01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:38.320
would love to get out in those woods and experience

947
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:42.920
it for myself. Well guess what this year you can

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If this is interesting to you, stay tuned, because it's

949
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:51.760
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summerfest is coming up July tenth through

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the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be even

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01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:59.440
better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll be

952
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:04.000
wanting to speak. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll

953
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:08.760
say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else,

954
01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:14.599
because let's just say sometimes it's well, you just gotta

955
01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:17.000
be there. We'll leave it that more about looking for

956
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:20.199
Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You

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01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:26.920
may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well,

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this year you can not only go to the festival,

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but you can also sign up for a track deep

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in the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie

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01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.800
to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only

962
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:51.000
eight spots to sign up for this, and yes, this

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01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:53.960
will also be filmed for the next chapter in his

964
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:57.400
documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a

965
01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:00.000
once in a lifetime deal. It's just it's gonna be

966
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:05.440
a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on

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over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use

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the code B sp like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order

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to get a two day pass for the price of

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a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving

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me that code so that you guys can can get

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a little a little help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla.

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01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:36.719
I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge

974
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:40.199
this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able

975
01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:42.519
to talk to so many people last year and the

976
01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:46.679
year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going

977
01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:48.559
to want to miss it, and I'll see you there.

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01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:53.199
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

979
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:56.440
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

980
01:03:56.440 --> 01:04:00.519
in the military, any branch or forces, if you've seen

981
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:03.159
something that no one can explain, or if you're a

982
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:06.480
National Park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to

983
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:09.840
stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something

984
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:12.840
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

985
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:16.840
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you've stumbled

986
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.719
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

987
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:23.320
you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

988
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.960
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If

989
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:30.679
you're in the logging industry, on a remote oil field

990
01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:33.840
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

991
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:37.360
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

992
01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:41.239
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

993
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:44.559
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

994
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:47.639
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

995
01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:51.159
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

996
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:54.960
or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

997
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:58.360
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't

998
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:05.039
want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous, you

999
01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:08.519
can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1000
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:11.360
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1001
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:17.159
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1002
01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:21.559
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1003
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:24.440
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

1004
01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:26.920
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1005
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:30.119
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1006
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.000
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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01:05:57.320 --> 01:05:59.760
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1016
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1017
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:06.159
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people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

1023
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:26.039
you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

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Society until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

1025
01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:31.800
and never stop asking what else might be out there?

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And see you in the woods.