Bear Brook is ALIVE! | New Hampshire

0:00 You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Rick today. Rick is an individual. It reached out to me a while back about some things he's experienced at bear Brook State Park over near Allenstown, New Hampshire, which has come up a few times on the show. So excited to talk to Rick today. How are you doing today, sir?

0:52 I'm doing good. How are you doing it doing good? Man? Is there anything else that you would like the listeners to know about yourself before we start chatting today? So well, let me say this. So it's not It's not every time I go to bear Brook or go for a hike that I experience something, and this is like, you know, how can I say this? You can go out there for like, you know, a hundred times and never see anything or or feel anything, but you can go out there once and see something.

1:34 You know. The phenomena is really strange because I know there's some people that be like, I've been. Hiking here for thirty seven years and I never saw anything. I've never heard anything, you know. So you know, I just wanted to throw that out there. But besides that, Nope, I can start with you with my first couple of experiences. So bear Brook is, it's about ten thousand acres, it is a state park. It does span two a couple of towns in New Hampshire. I think the biggest part is over in Allenstown, but there's also some more remote areas around Candia.

2:17 There is quite I've never seen. I mean usually the part that I go to, it's you don't really see a whole lot of people out there, even during hunting season, so it is pretty remote. There has been that famous case which I believe that they finally saw where they found the bodies in the barrels. So I the place where I like to hike, it's not it's probably like maybe like. A few miles away from there. But the part that I go to, it's it's not like well traveled that it's actually pretty dead, and I think it's probably one of the creepiest parts, especially when it starts to get dark.

3:09 Yeah, you barely see people out there. I mean. Rarely when it comes to like bigfoot or anything. I've never seen bigfoot at all, but I don't know why. I mean, there have been times when I've been out there where I was like, oh, he's definitely gonna show up now, but he never did. But so I'll start with you a first one. This was back in It was this set. No, it was October of twenty twenty two. I was actually out there with my brother and we were hiking up this trail. So we went off trail a little bit and we went to this like it's like a little hill and there's a rock I'm outcropping at the top. And what we did is we set up a little fire inside of a fire pit, and we were just like hanging out, you know, drinking and you know, just kind of enjoying the woods. And I remember this night, like the wind was just I mean, it was howling like Satan out there.

4:16 It sounded like the devil. And it started to get dark, and it was around I want to stay around like seven seven pm where there was this moment where like you just feel like the wind just completely like died down, and then it like switched direction and it started going the other way. And then I started to get this weird feeling. And then my brother starts getting in too. I was like, man, do you feel something weird. He's like, yeah, yeah, I definitely feel something weird. There's something like you just started getting scared, like out of nowhere, you know. And so we're packing everything up. And I didn't tell my brother about this at the time, but from this like rock outcropping, I like look down and it had to be about, you know, maybe like one hundred yards or so in front of me. The wind had had died down at this point for a little bit, and I can see like a tree just like shaking like this just one little tree. You know, every other tree is calm, but this one is sitting there like shaking.

5:31 So I was like, man, what's that. Like what's going on? So I start packing everything up like a lot faster. My brother's like, hey, what's going on. He's like, I was like, no, no, let's just get out here because it's gonna get dark. And you know, I don't I don't want to get lost. And then the wind picks up again. And now with the wind picking up, I can hear what sounds like like a frock man just like tearing through the woods and use the wind right, the wind howling and the leaves rustling as a cover right for for what it's doing. But I can, you know, differentiate the wind. And I just started hearing trees falling like like little saplings.

6:15 And at this point, you know where they're trying to put the fire out and and and I was like, we have to get out of here quick. So we we grabbed our stuff and then we like left and I we actually got like lost for for a good while. And what finally we made it out? There wasn't there was another time there. And this was a couple of months later. I was out there alone. So I had set up like a hammock. And with my job, so like what would I do for work? You know, like half half of my job is a remote work. So At times, I would take my laptop and I would just go up to the woods and I would just sit there like work. And at bear Brook it's it's good, especially at this place where the service is it's not bad at all.

7:15 So you can actually hot spot off your phone and you can send emails, you know. And so I was sitting up there in the hammock doing that and you can hear the birds, you know, the birds singing and everything, and and all of a sudden it's just quiet, and then you get that that weird feeling again. It was two three different sounds. So the first sound that I heard sounded like somebody took sheet. Metal, like a like a you know, like a plate of sheet metal, and they're like wiggling it around. And if you know that sound that like sheet metal makes, you know that like wobbling sound. I started hearing that.

7:59 And then I started hearing it like. What sounded like a humongous like metal door opening. Up, And I was like, what is that? So? And I was thinking, I was like, oh, there's like a clearing over there. I wonder if you know that there's some blumberjacks out there and they're cutting down like what they'll just clear like an entire areas of the forest when they find patches. I forget what it is. It's it's it's some type of invasive species. I think it's it's red oak or or it's a like a bug that attacks red oak.

8:42 So if they find it, they'll clear it, right, So I was thinking it was that. So I went out there and I pack up my stuff and I just start walking towards it. And I get to this clearing and there's absolutely nobody out there. There's nothing. The logging road that goes in is all overgrown. So then I go. Back, and when I go back, the like the sound like starts like persisting, and this time it's like it starts getting a little bit louder, and I go on on my phone and I'm like, I was like strange metal sounds in the woods, and I was like, and I couldn't find like an explanation for it. And again you start hearing something lay off like in the distance and it sounds like it's running towards you. And at this point again I get super scared and like my like stomach just like turns, and I'm just scrambling to pack everything and I just like darted out of there like as fast as I could. I almost fell on my face a few times, and I I don't know why, but I was panicking so much. I was trying to find the trail, and I was actually like walking off trail, but like parallel to the trail. But I was freaking out so much wanting to get out of there, that

10:13 I didn't see it. But luckily I made it out that time. And people are like, oh, you know, you'll hear some people say like, yeah, I'll never be back to the woods again. I'm like, I was like, you know, I. Like going there, yet it can be pretty scary sometimes, especially when it starts to get dark. But you know, I had no problem with that. But then again, if I actually saw like a like a bigfoot or something, then I'd. Probably feel a little different. But the other time, and this was I think this was early like last year, I was with a friend of mine and we were out there looking for chaga mushrooms.

11:00 There's the most big ol almost looks like like wood, but they grow on birch trees, right, So we go out there sometimes and we'll just look for it, and there's actually quite a bit out there. I mean, we found like some pretty big chunks, and we were off trail and we're just you know, getting this like huge. Chunk of like chaga mushroom off of this tree. And it was so this was like. I think this was probably around February, like late February.

11:42 I'm just like taking this thing of like chaga off, putting it in my bag, and I look my friend had he's a little bit ahead of me walking around, and when I look to my left, I see like this like misty smoke okey like picture like a person, like a human, like a human, you know, form and outline like a body, but it's completely made of like smoke, you know, like vapor. I look over it, and I can see this thing just like walking and it's uh walking like sideways right, so I can see like it's uh its.

12:25 Right leg and and it's arm. It's right arm is actually swinging as if somebody's walking. And then I just watch it like walking, walking, walking, walking, and then then it goes it walks a little more, and then it just like disappears, you know, like the smoke just like dissipated. And I'm just sitting there like did I. Just see that, you Like. I was like, I'll stop, and I'm just thinking, you know, there's no way like I just saw that like at all, you know, and I'm and I'm.

13:07 Kind of like freaking out at this point. So I go and I tell a friend of mine and he's like and I asked him, I was like, Hey, did. You see that that like smoky thing walking around? He's like no, no. I was like, oh, it was just like right there. He's like, no, I didn't see it at all. So we both agreed that it was time to like get out of there, you know, and we did. And uh, I always wonder like I was like, you know, I had heard that, you know, like of like certain types of I actually did some research on bear Brook and there is some like a history. It's not it's not very prevalent, but but there have been people there that have seen like strange things like lights in the woods like Bigfoot. Also like the voices, the voices I've never heard out there, but you know, I was always wondering, like what exactly is you know that could like cause that that sort of thing.

14:18 But so I did spend a couple of months without going back there because I saw this like smoky person. And then I started going back. It was, I want to say, around the fall of last year. And I went months and months and months without seeing anything there, and and and and at some point, at one point I was going out there three or four times. A week just for like a short hike, you. Know, just to kind of just you know, enjoy the woods. And you know, it's quiet out there, so you can go out there.

15:01 And you can think, you can read a book, you know, you can do look for mushrooms. You know. I haven't hunted out there yet, but maybe I will soon. So it was the last two experiences I had. There were a couple of months ago. No no, no, it was a couple of weeks ago I went out to the same spot. Oh wait, wait, wait, no, I've actually missed a one. So it was August of last year. I was with this friend of mine and we were both sitting down and we're just talking smoking cigars, you know, and we started talking about the like I forget the context of the conversation, but we were talking about Canaanite gods.

16:02 So I mentioned a bail of the Canaanites. And this is when it starts to get dark, and we start talking about bail. I get the goosebumps just talking about it, and he. And I like, I just started getting like this weird feeling, like a really really weird feeling. He's like, man, yeah, I got this weird feeling too, And out of nowhere we just hear and it was like, pretty close to us. We hear what sounds like. Somebody imitating a like a it almost sounded like a bear cup calling out for it its mother, but it was like it was pretty loud, and it did it about two times, and you know, like we're like, what is that? You know, and both of us got up.

17:04 You know, I have a pretty powerful flashlight, and it wasn't seconds after that. We both get up and I just shine this flashlight all over this area and there's absolutely nothing there, like nothing, and whatever was making that sound sounded really big, so and I was thinking, like. That couldn't have been a bear cub because. As soon as we got up to go towards it, you would have heard the thing, and you can't. It's almost impossible. It really is hard to like sneak up on like like to go out like sneaking out there because of all the leaves, you know, like you can't really be quiet, like we'll hear it.

17:53 Coming, you know. And so so like I was thinking, like, okay, so that that was not a bear cup. That was definitely somebody imitating a bear cup. But how on earth did this person get so close to us like that without us seeing it, hearing it, and in the pitch black darkness with no flashlight whatsoever, so we would have seen it coming. And we looked in like search like the area and like nothing, you know, and it's just that feeling that you get, like we packed. Up our stuff and just got out of there.

18:34 And so then after I was thinking to myself, I was like this thing that does not like the a Bible, right, So I was like, okay, So I went there a couple weeks ago and I was like, I'm going to broke and prod like whatever's out here. And then I start reading something like on my phone out of the Bible, right, and you know, the birds are going off and everything, and I'm reading it and all of a sudden, everything just goes quiet. I hear behind me. Sounded like a like a h a wild boar, And I was like, man, that and it was like you know, maybe this like grunting sound, and I thought, hey, it's like there's obviously there's no wild boars here. So I looked back, thinking that I was going to see, like, you know, a male bear just kind of walking towards me, you know, trying to be curious. And when I look back, there was nothing there at all. And then up towards the trail, I heard what sounded like people walking, you know, and and and like talking.

19:54 I don't know if you've. Ever heard like people talking from like far away, but you can't really make out what they're saying. That's what it sounded like. But I could hear them walking through the woods and like breaking branches, and that's when I heard like my first two like tree knocks, and you can it was as loud as day. It just you know, starts like knocking, and then you could hear like walking a little bit. And then I get up and I rush over there, Like I literally rushed all over there. I was like, you know, I want to see, like what's doing this?

20:39 And there was absolutely nothing and there was no way, you know, that this thing could have gotten away so fast. So whatever is it's just like like likes to mess with me, I guess, and this will be the last time I went. A couple of. Weeks ago as well, maybe it was early August. I'm like walking up the trail, right and I just feel like something telling me, like, hey, turn around, turn around, don't don't go up there, turn around, and I was like whatever, I just ignored it, and you know, and it's.

21:20 Kind of hard to explain, but I just kept walking. And once I got like halfway not halfway, but like a quarterway up of the trail, it's like like somebody, I don't know if you've ever done like like an eye exam, and they, you know, the optometrists, he puts that big, that big like you know thing in front of your face and then he switches the. You know, these like lenses and he just goes through like different settings that to find the right one that that you can actually see through. And what it.

22:01 Looked like it's like somebody changed filter, like the like the light filter in front of me, and it just like changed, and so. I was like, oh, that's like really weird. And at that moment, it felt like I was somewhere else, like I didn't recognize where I was at all, Like it had completely like disoriented me, you know, And this was like the weirdest part. It's like I'm looking around, it's like, okay, I kind of recognized where I am, but but then like it just it was just different, you know, like like a different place almost it kind. Of looked like it, but it was just different. And I still didn't listen right to this feeling.

22:47 So I kept going, kept walking, and then I finally stopped, and then off to my right sounded like it was probably like maybe like fifty feet off trail, I heard what sounded like a group of people speaking in. Some like foreign language. I was like, so I listened. I was like, is that like Spanish? But then like the I started to kind of walk closer to it, and it just I couldn't quite make out what they were saying, you know, but it was almost like something was trying to draw me in there to like to get closer. And so then I go back. I just walk. I take a couple of steps back, and I'm like, and I said to myself, like, yeah, I really have to like get out of here, like this is super weird.

23:40 Like the you know, it it almost feels. Like, you know, like I'm in a completely like different place, and I just start walking back. I just walked back to the car, and I was stuck with with like this feeling like all day, like man like where like what happened? You know? And and I have gone back there since. But I don't know, man, I think I just got to listen to my gut more. And my gut is telling me now it's like, don't go out there by yourself, you know.

24:22 So I don't know, man, I think that that place in particularly where I go, you do have that that these like murders that happened that's just north of that, and there have been a couple of murders like around that area, not exactly in. It, but like I'm around it. And if you go to the New Hampshire State Police Unsolved Homicides and it gives you a map and you soon and assume into where like bear Brook is, you'll see a couple of murders that that have happened around that area. I mean, not not too far away from there.

25:07 There's a I think it's called New Boston Road. There were two girls that were found murder there and in the seventies, and that case has been unsolved ever since there was another guy that was found murdered there in the nineties. Then you have the bodies in the barrel, and just south of that there was like another one as well. So I was just thinking, like, man, you know, there's just some sort of like darkness, some sort of like dark energy here that really manifests itself when it starts to get when it's like nighttime.

25:48 Or when you're just like by yourself. So I have like no idea, you know, I'm always curious and I'm always looking to see if there's other people that have had like similar experiences. And I have found a few things on like Reddit where people say like, oh yeah, you know, just they all describe the same things that I felt. But that being said, I mean. It's not going to stop me from going back there. But I have this like rule now where if it starts to get dark, Once it starts to get dark, I am out of there, Like I'm not going to stick around anymore.

26:35 Well yeah, that's pretty much it. Wow, Rick, Oh yeah, that that and that voice is there inside of us for a reason. Man, That's that is intense. I had no idea about the history of that that park. Now Yeah, these these incidents that you're bringing up, these murders. So are these like missing four on one or these are actual like people being found dead? No, these are like actual like murders. OK, gotcha. I don't think there has been. If you look up the Bearbrook murders you'll see it. It was like a couple of bodies.

27:17 They found the bodies back in the eighties, and they had a hard. Time identifying them. But that like the where the bodies were founded, that's not in the park. It was found like outside of a trailer park, which like borders bear Brook, and I think that's like private property. So if anybody's thinking about going out there, i'd be careful. Yeah, good call, I would say, let's let's not mess with that at all for sure. I mean, you had some really really interesting experiences happened Rick over the years. One that was really interesting to me was how you were You started reading the Bible and everything started getting quiet and things started ramping up. Now, did you randomly pick a passage or did you have one in mind that you turned to and started reading.

28:14 No, so I just randomly pick a passage. I think it was it was I believe it was First Kings nineteen when the prophet Elijah he's running away from Jezebel was trying to kill him and he goes up to the mountain. Well, yeah, I I think whatever's out there does not like to hear the Bible. At all, which which is interesting because in One Kings eighteen that's when the prophets of Bail were defeated by Elijah on Mount Carmel. Right, So I don't know if you had you been talking about that before when you were talking about Bail earlier then.

28:58 So yeah, so at I believe we were. So that was at a different time we were talking about I think it. Yeah, we might have been talking about Jezebel, which is weird, you know, and then I started reading it and in you know, at a different time, I start reading about Elijah. So maybe, yeah, that could have been what triggered it. You know, it's there's so much going on in this world. We have no idea what is well, we know it's behind the scenes, there's some intense spiritual warfare going on, but we usually cannot see it, right, And it is very interesting that you reading that passage. I mean, some of that stuff blatantly sounds like bigfoot activity, I mean, especially the tree Knox. But when you had the group of people talking, did it sound like it was like a murmuring or mumbling at all?

29:57 It sounded like No, it didn't sound like murmuring or mumbleing. It just sounded like people talking, but they were just like far away and you can you can hear the sounds, but you can't make out what they're saying. Gotcha when anything, but when everything went quiet, did h were your ears affected it any anywhere any weird way physically? So No, Like it's weird because you it goes quiet and it almost sounds like you can hear like this buzz like this, but it's like really faint. So I just think to myself, like did I really hear like that beating sound or what.

30:44 It's It's weird, but it can be like very disorienting in a way. You know. Yeah, I just say, don't like trust your gut out there. I'm kind of, you know, really curious and like I'll try to like walk towards it to see like what's going on, But don't do. That, you know. And I had. To like change, you know, the way I approach it now. But in terms of that, it's it's weird, man, Like it'll go dead quiet and and it's just kind of like a like a faint like like that, like almost like I have a tonight is too right something my ears will ring and it sounds like that, like the ringing in the ears, but it's very very faint, which I'm thinking, like I was like, you know, it's it's yeah, it's it's weird, man. You know it's not something pleasant for sure.

31:53 Yeah, no, absolutely, And I know exactly what you're talking about when you refer to what that sounds like, So not so much like a humming, but more like a tonightis type sound sounds like. Yeah. Yeah, but. It could be a coincidence suit that at that moment when everything went quiet and my ears were ringing because of tonightis. So I'm not sure if that. Yeah. The other really interesting, and this was just early August of this year. I mean the way that you experienced when you were walking up that trail, I mean that sounds really close to when people are talking like they've gone through some kind of portal or things like that.

32:43 Yeah, yeah, that was weird man. It's like you know, put put like grab like it's hard for me to explain. I think the best way to explain. Is like grab some like sunglasses, put them on on a sunny day, right, and then just like like lift them up and put them back on, you know, against you your eyes. Like that's like what happened? You know? It was like a like a change almost like like you're I don't think I walked into like some other dimension, but it's like, see, I've been walking down the same trail for for years, right, and and then this happens, this change and like the light filter and uh and and it and I look around and I didn't recognize the place at all. It felt like it was completely like somewhere completely different. You know that that that that's that was scary Like that that almost made me not want to go back there again.

33:48 All right, I absolutely get that. And it sounds like you know when you do have that that gut reaction where you're like, okay, maybe not this place today. You are you are following that from here on out, which is great. Did uh sorry? Are you a religious person then? Or yeah, yeah, I'm a Christian. As el Okay? Have you had things like that happen whenever you when You've read the Bible other times or is that the only time that that's happened where you had that weird reaction. No, so, man, you want to talk about like paranormal stuff throughout my life, there was once, and this happened in my early twenties. I was asleep in my bedroom and I and I hear somebody something unlocked the door and they walk in, and what walked in was this like giant probably like a seven foot tall, like like a pray mantis, with a human type like the head was kind of human shape, and I remember this day man like the antennas. It had two antennas on top of its head, and the antennas were kind of.

35:13 Like they were like moving around in like circles. It had its hands up to its chest like a praying mantis, and it just kept on floating towards me. And when it was doing that, there's a there was a buzzing, like a buzzing sound right in the middle of my forehead and it was just like, you know, just just like this weird buzz and I couldn't move, I couldn't say anything, and all of a sudden, I'm able to let out like a you know, when you're able to move and say something, it just. It went away completely. And yeah, yeah, occasionally I'll get things like that if I go on like A asked, right, and I'm not I'm not like a super Christian or anything. Man, Like, you know, I still have problems, you know, I swear sometimes I still.

36:09 Like to drink something here. You know, no one is yeah right, you know, like everyone every yeah, everyone struggles that I get to do. Yeah yeah, you know. Like like, man, I'm not perfect at all, but there are times in my life I'm especially when like if I were to fast for like three or four days and then go out to like bear Brook, Man, I swear to I swear, I think every single paranormal thing would probably just jump out of the trees at me. And I think that would go for for anybody really. But huh yeah, yeah, man, have you.

36:52 Tried that where you fasted for a few days and then you've gone out there? I haven't, no, but maybe I should. But I mean I'm not saying you should. I mean that's your I mean I wouldn't be able to go very far because you know, if you're fasting for a couple of days and then you're gonna go on a hike, I mean, you're gonna be like dead pretty much. But no, I have not tried that, but maybe I should have. One thing I was thinking about doing is going out there at like five or six a m. And only up to like the top the top of like a hill or something to pray. But I have not done that yet, and I'm like, should I do that?

37:38 You know, because when when it's dark out there just super creepy. Man, it's just eery. I mean there were times when when I'm like walking through there, like and it's like nighttime, there's like fog and miss like like like on the ground, so it looks like a horror movie, you know, and it's just creepy. It really really is just really. Scary out there at night, I think more so than any other woods anywhere else. I Mean. The great thing is that you know, so if if if you're a Christian, you do have you know, the armor of God for you and then uh so you are protected right now that you still got to be careful where places you go because you can run into into stuff that can be very you know, dangerous physically and spiritually for sure. But we do have that that uh, that power of the Holy Spirit, which you know, that's interesting because it's like maybe it's a thing where you know, you that that gut feeling you know, as Christians we have that's usually that's the Holy Spirit being like hey, yeah, easybuddy, be careful, dude. But man, that's that that really puts a whole different twist on on that area. And I think I think it's not just that area. I mean there's there's stuff like this, you know, we know all over the world, all over all over the US, and

39:08 maybe some places more more prevalent than others, right, But yeah, Rick, this is this has been a Yeah, I'll tell you, I got a little nervous when I saw your your your summary and you were talking about Canaanite guides gods, and I was like, I don't know where this is going to go, but it went somewhere different. So it's very cool. But so you are, you're you're planning on going back out and I'd say, yeah, dude, I mean it would be really interesting to see, you know, what happens if you did, you know, pray out there and or or read the Bible again, and you know, definitely you know, let me know what what happens if you do decide to go out there again.

39:53 Yeah, I'll definitely try it, like at least at some point, you know. And I don't know, man, there there is something out there. I don't know what it is, but but there's something out there that. Is just like like nefarious. And one thing that I would want to like, no, right or talk to is the people. I mean, there's people that live around there, right. I would love to hear from somebody that that lives like around the park just to see if they've. Ever had anything like that. Yeah, but I'm always looking for like houses for sale around there. You know.

40:40 I was like, God, you know, that'll be cool, but but yeah, I'm always like like wondering. I've ran a very. Very few people out there in the Candy Eception, and I've just never had the courage to like ask them, hey, have you seen anything out here? But maybe next time I will, I had maybe there's. Yeah, they would be interesting to see if you did, because I know I've talked well, I've talked to a few other people about this this park back it's like eight oh six and eight oh eight of the podcast, and they are like, yeah, there's certain areas of this park or maybe on the borders where you know, people have like the signs up, like the Bigfoot signs or like the big Foot silhouettes, And I mean you don't have those up for no reason, right, like you got to have you know, there's gotta be something that you have those up. So yeah, if people are listening from this area, and if if you have, if you've experienced stuff you live around there, or if you just experienced stuff, you know, feel free to reach out. You can send an email to me at the Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. But it is one of those places where it's come up a few times on the show, which is kind of weird for New England to be honest.

41:52 That's true, man, I I honestly. I mean when when you hear about like Bigfoot, you know it, it's always it's either like down south or it's like out west somewhere, and New England is always really quiet. But for some reason, this like this part, and then you had that. That that uh, that guy that came on that that saw the Bigfoot in them over at Stephens Stephen's Hill Road and Noddingham. Yeah, yeah, yep, and how and I. Have a I have a buddy that that that lives up in that area. Now, yeah, there there's just something there, man.

42:33 And I'll tell you, if you have the courage, go out to to bear Brook, go out to a bear Brook at and a mount Hall or Hall Mountain, go out to Hall Mountain at night, and and just see, like, you know, if you feel like like something, because I know there's people a lot braver than I am out there. And if I happened to be out there and I see someone out there, I'm gonna ask you, you know, like, and maybe we can do it together, because I don't want to do it by myself. What did one of your specific incidents happen at Hall Mountain?

43:16 Then? Yeah? Yeah, so and everything that I experienced was that Hall Mountain. Everything. I wasn't gonna say where it was that at, but I was like, you know what, man, just I'll just say it, because well, what I guess what would suck now, right is if you go out there and there's people like hunting for bigfoot. But I I don't think so well. I pretty much gave it away anyways by saying, Candya, so right, but it's true. Yeah, it's Hall the Hall Mountain. Then again, like I'm not saying you're gonna go out there and see something, right, You may go out there a million times and never see your experience anything. You know, this is just what I've what I've seen and what I've experienced. Well, yeah, i'd say, go out there at night and you'll see how creepy it gets. And it changes.

44:10 Man, in the daytime, it's it's perfectly normal, perfectly nice. When it starts to getting it like at dusk, still still nothing. But once it gets dark, wham, like you are, it feels like the devil is like is roaming around out there. Oh I got it. Yeah, it's the same thing happens out in Oregon when yeah, that gets really quiet or the dusk. Totally totally get that, man, Rick, what a what a fascinating set of accounts that you have. Thank you so much. I'm glad we were able to talk. It took a few times, but we've got to got it to work out and definitely keep me in in the loop if anything happens in the future in this area.

44:57 But it's been a pleasure to talk to you today and just to make sure that you were able to share everything that you came to the show to share today. All right, Yeah, so brother, Yeah, So I had a. Type B encounter at Red River Gorge eastern Kentucky. Have you ever heard of that place? Yeah, that's a pretty active area. Yeah, it was back in twenty seventeen. I'm a pretty avid hiker, so I was. Pretty familiar with the area, and I took a friend of mine down there. And it's really weird because I found out this guy was from Florida and he never went camping before in his life.

45:49 And I found that out on the way there. So that changed the course of the conversation on the way there, and so I felt led to give him some of the dudes and the don'ts of camping. And since I was familiar with that area, you know, it's got a really weird spiritual feel to it, but it also has a. Lot of you know, encounters. So long story short, I kind of warned this guy because he was like a macho man, and I just was letting him know, like, you know, I believe in Bigfoot. It's really crazy that this happened. I really feel like I kind of saved this guy's life. I know that sounds like far fetched, but I really think that it had an impact with how the night went. But I, long story short, told him I believed in this stuff.

46:42 And I had been listening to the Sasquatch Chronicles podcast for a short time and then I always grew up with a couple of stories in my family, so I just always knew about them existing. So I kind of just warned him about, hey. If anything messes with us at our tent, just don't go out of the tent. Like that was kind of like my main And of course he was kind of like laughing it off, which was to be expected. But so we got there and it was like maybe six or seven. We didn't have a lot of time to get firewood, so I just told him to help me get some firewood. And he kept bringing back these like big branches with leaves on them, and it.

47:25 Was just not firewood. So I was like, oh no. And then I remember like we were on the end of this ridge. It was a chimney Chimney Top. So Chimney Top is like a five mile road or so, and it's a gravel road and it pretty much takes you out on this ridge. And so we were at the very end of it, and it used to be where I'd go camping every time, but now I go and it's closed like half the year. I wonder why. So I just remember when he's gathering this firewood. I remember just the hair on the back of my neck standing up, and it's like dusk at this point. You know, we're fervently collecting firewood so that we have.

48:15 Some for the night. But I remember feeling watched, and so I just kind of scanned the area and uh, a little bit longer than what I usually would. I just felt a really weird feeling, and so I just kind of noted that and. Went on. And uh, we made some We made some really good food. We made like a like I made camp packs, so like meat, sausage, like sausage, onions, carrots, potatoes, garlic. You know, very very many smells going on. So and then we actually had a Uh there was two other campsites right before ours, but they were spread out so we could barely hear the people.

48:57 But they were like. I think they were shrooms because they were like screaming and hollering and like just very happy. So it wasn't really bothering us. But we could hear them every once in a while, so I just thought i'd tell you for a later absolutely. And so we eat the food, We get as much firewood. As we can, which isn't a lot, and uh, we read a little bit of the word. We were church friends, so we just read like a chapter of the Bible, and then we like we weren't we were just buddies just going camping. And so we go lay down. I mean, we get in the tent and I forgot to tell you I had a machete and he didn't know, you know, anything about machete, so he got another machete at the gas station and I was like, okay, Well he said it was dull, so I was like, all right, Bud.

49:53 I was like, it's gonna be the same as mine, but shining. So he figured that out. He was like, yeah, you're right. I was like, I told you to save your money. But it's okay because then we both had my sheddies. So we're just laying there and like not even ten minutes goes by. I feel like and all of a sudden, it's like, oh, I forgot to mention. Sorry. There was a hiker that came up to us with a really bright led light on his head, and he asked for directions, and so I kind of pointed him where to go, and I told him to be careful because we're on a ridge, you know. And there's cliffs all around us. Essentially, I was like, and if you need to come back, you can come back here, you know, so that'll.

50:37 Be important for later. And so we lay down. And we just felt like we were being stalked, like after just like ten minutes of laying down, and it's I don't know how to describe the feeling, but it's like it's like we knew we couldn't talk, and we just lay there, and then it got to where we felt like we couldn't breathe. And I just remember whispering to him and saying, if you hear anything, tap me, and if I hear anything, I'll tap you.

51:20 He understood what I said. I was just whispering to him, essentially, And I don't really know how much time went by. It was it felt like forever, and we're just gripping these machetes and just laying there, and uh, the fire starts to go out. I remember that it starts to get like just darker and darker, and I'm like, great, that's like the last thing that I need, and because you know, that keeps the larger animals away and stuff. And we had cooked. Food and then you know, we have these you know, people camping next to us. They're making a bunch of noise and so maybe they drew them, like drew something in.

52:01 But I just remember getting this feeling like I really am so glad that I warned this guy. You know, he was from Florida, he'd never been camping before in his life, and uh, it just so happened that I told him about all this on the way. So we're laying there. I've only told this story like two or three times, and I'm just so glad that I have someone with me at this point. I just remember thinking, like, thank God someone's with me so that I didn't feel crazy later. And so we're hearing nothing. We still feel stalked and all that. Like I'm trying to like visualize what happens in my head. I feel like that's normal, but I'm a very visual person, so I'm trying to figure out where this noise comes from. But it's essentially like what I heard was like like branches moving out of the way. It was like, and then just a giant booh, like a thomp. Like The first thing that popped in my head was just it's Godzilla, Like I'm laying there on the ground in a tent and it just shakes us. It shook everything. And when it happened, I thought that something was like moving a bush or something, and then it like jumped. But it took me a year or two and I figured out. I think it was in a tree and it like jumped out of the tree, And that would explain if I felt something

53:33 looking at me when I looked out, I didn't look up, I didn't look in the trees, and so when it happened, I just We're on like a ridge, so there's only like so many feet, you know, this way and that way, like fifty feet this way, fifty feet that way, and I'm just trying to figure out how close it is, because it felt. Like it was like six or eight hundred pounds. You know. It just. Instantly looked at him, and I just said, we got to go to the car. So two more things happened before we went to the car. I kind of skipped a couple of things, But so I was essentially praying for the fire to come back on. I know it's a really weird story, so but I was praying for the fire to come back on because I know that that would help scare stuff off. And then, you know, I told him to bump me if he heard something, and I'd bump him. And I'm glad I said that because before the big shake, like before that whole thing happened, we heard what sounded like fluttering. It was like, I don't know how to explain it. It wasn't a per and it was just like like and I tapped him.

54:50 He tapped me. So I heard the flutter on my side. I know this sounds crazy. I still have no idea what it was. I don't know if it was related to Sasquatch, I don't know. But I tapped him. He at me, so he heard the flutter on his side, and I heard this little flutter on my side, and then like, I don't remember if it was right after, but like I just saw the brightest light and so I'm thinking the fires back on, and I actually thought it was that guy. I told you there was a guy that came with the led light and it was super bright. So I thought this guy was coming back. That's how bright this light was. And then that's whenever that thing like shook the ground, and so I told him we got to go to the car. And so we start to get out of the tent and like the fire is just like completely lit up. When it was almost totally gone, there was just smoke and ashes, like we did not have a lot of time to get any firewood.

55:43 And so you won't believe me, but I was so scared. Halfway to the car, I realized I didn't even have the keys. He was so mad at me. I just, I mean, I was so spooked. I don't remember. I just I thought I was gonna die. I don't know how to explain it to you. I knew it wasn't a bear. I couldn't hear anything huffing and puffing. I've been there before, and I knew. I knew that something was stalking us. And the craziest part about it, the story's not even over. We go sleep in the car and I swear on anything, the Lord could drop an ice cream truck on me. Right now, I'm not lying. I can't lie.

56:24 I have autism, like I literally cannot lie. I didn't go to sleep, like there's no way I'm going to sleep after this. I didn't know whether to cry or be excited. And I'm still living in the nightmare. I'm like, I'm like, I know this was Bigfoot. I already know. And he goes to sleep and it's like two or three in the morning, and I swear on everything holy, I heard whoops. I heard the car back and forth. And it was the loudest when people describe the whoops. And I understand, I'm in Red River Gorge. This was in twenty seventeen, so nowadays it's normal to hear humans making calls back and forth. But in twenty seventeen, like Sasquatch Chronicles podcasts, was barely making any traction and people weren't whooping out there, and even if they were, if you understand like the lung capacity of a human, and you understand, like when you hear it, you just know it's not a human. It echoed through like the whole mountain range, like they were talking back and forth, like miles away from each other. And I woke them up and I said, I just heard them. Listen, listen, and I heard tree knocks too. They there was like two or three whoops back and forth, and then I heard at least two tree knocks.

57:47 And the tree knocks they kind of sound. Like sluggers, like at the slugger field whenever they hit it so hard at like echoes. It's like that. And it's very fast. It's like a kind of like a woodpecker type speed. It's not like whack and they waited a couple of seconds whack. It's not like that at all. It's like the power. I don't know how to explain it. It's it's amazing because it was so loud. It just echoedsack, why why? And it was always like five whack, why why? Why? Why? And it just echoed and he heard it too, and I just I just was so happy that he heard it too.

58:28 And then he tried to tell me this guy was probably messing with me, but he said, I had a dream that. There was a sasquad. She's like looking in your window. And I was like, bro, I haven't even went to sleep yet. You can't be saying that kind of stuff to me. But it was a crazy encounter. And I don't see that guy a lot, but when I do see him, we give each other a little look and like we just have something that we really can't speak on it. Like we spoke on it on the. Way home, and then one other time that week, and now we really can't because it's like it doesn't do us any good. It doesn't help, you know, people judging us for something that. You know, I don't really know if it affected me in a good way or not, you know, because it just I've been out there like two or three times since then, and I can't sleep in a tent anymore. I tried to sleep in a hammock, and I made it till the dust hit, and then once the dust kids, it's like it just gets that quiet feeling, and I just sometimes you just have to listen to your intuition and to.

59:31 Your gut and you just have to get out of there. You know. You just never really know when something's stalking you. Sometimes you get lucky and you do know. But I really truly feel like that was definitely a bigfoot. And you know, after that year, starting that winter and following spring, they just started closing that road, the Chimney Top Road. And now, I mean it's been a few years since i've been back, but they keep that road closed well until spring and summer, and sometimes they say it's just for like winter conditions for and I just don't believe it anymore. I think that there's a lot of encounters up there on that ridge.

1:00:12 Wow, what an incredible account. I think you were guys were definitely being messed with up there. Thank you for sharing. Is it's impossible that I would be able to use this audio and podcast I have? Yeah, I sure if you want to, that'd be awesome. Awesome, Well, thank you for coming up and thank you for sharing either. How are you good? Are you good? Are you coming up to share a big foot encounter each had? Yeah? I mean it's not it's nothing too crazy, because I was. This was this past May. I was I'm in Ohio right now, but I was out in Gunnison County, Colorado, in Black Canyan National Park and that was with my two buddies and we were walking up the trail and I mean, this is crazy to say, but we stopped because we thought it was going to rain and I look up the trailhead. My buddies are just looking up at the clouds because it's you know, dark gray skies.

1:01:10 And whatnot. I just look up at the up at the trail and at least a seven and a half foot tall jet black creature just walks out into the trail, sees me looking at it, and from my spot it was probably like seventy five hundred yards away, fluidly bends down and hides behind the brush. And I didn't tell my buddies until we got back to the car because it was it was on the part of the trail where we had to walk back to the car. Felt like an eternity because you know, just walked down onto the trail, saw me, and fluidly bent down behind the brush.

1:01:53 Were you able to see any of its face at all during that short amount of time. I was an because I was, you know, one hundred yards away. The facial features were too hard to make out, but yeah, definitely seven and a half feet tall, and the shoulders were real broad. But what draws doubt to my mind is that you know the color of it, and then we walked by where it was. There was no distinct smell like you know, you always hear that there's a dead animal smell or you know, some kind of skunk smell, but didn't have that experience. You were walking towards that area at the. Time, Yeah, we were, and you know, like I said, when we walked by it, I was just looking dead ahead at the trail, not looking around because I was scared, because you know, saw seven and a half foot monkey creature just standing in the trail. And when I got when we got back to the car, me and my buddies, you know, I told him that like, you're full of crap, and you know, I was dead serious, and they were all upset, you know, rightfully, so because you know, it could easily rip three of us apart.

1:02:59 Definitely still see one hundred yards that's a few tennis courts away from y So you could, you know, probably see silhouette features for sure. Did you notice anything about the arms at all? As it walked walked across? It was walking pretty much on the same path as me kind of, So I mean I couldn't really make out any silhouette features because it was, you know, its chest was facing my chest, if that makes sense. I could just tell the width of it, and I. Was there anything that else that changed when you you saw it, like the sounds of the forest or anything like that.

1:03:43 Not really I mean it was it was a really calm experience. I know that's odd to say, but that's just what it was, because it was kind of like a unicorn walked out. It wasn't destructive in ay nature. It just saw me, knew we weren't any threat, and then just it beyind the brush and my guess is it just walked back into the forest. Absolutely. Have you done any research after that to see if people have had similar things happened in the same area. I did. Yeah, I looked at the BFRO and saw that. I think it was in the late nineties. Two hunters had a similar experience in Gunison County with a you know, black creature that resembled Bigfoot. But yeah, other than that, no, I mean, a couple of weeks after we left in May, my buddy sent me something and some other people in Colorado.

1:04:37 I don't know if it was in Gunison County, but it was. It was somewhat near Gunnison County they had an encounter as well. Interesting. Well, I appreciate you coming up and sharing what you experienced out there is to say, conversation I can use in my podcast as well. For sure. Yeah, do you you just post them on your channel. I'm assuming. Yeah, so sometimes I'll do an episode where they'll be like multiple audio clips in it, people sharing stuff from around the country. So I gotcha. Awesome, Well, thank you for letting me share. Thank you. I appreciate you coming up going, Sir Tate, we were actually just talking a few minutes about doctor Meldrim earlier. Do you have any uh, do you have any stories you can share about spending time with doctor Meldrim?

1:05:33 Is that something you could do? I don't want to put you on the spot, and I don't know if you're still here, but. H mm hmm, yes here. Going. Can you hear me? Okay, yeah, you sound all right. I got a new phone case and it's like a waterproofs I didn't know my voice was coming in, So. Yeah, you's so good. So yeah, put on the spot.

1:06:13 But do you have any I know you were able to spend. At least one day his office. Yeah. Well, I met him at the. At the fiftieth anniversary for the PG film a few years back. That's where I first got to meet him, and so he was he was really cool and I got to get his autograph. I gotta get I got a picture with well, actually photo bomb to picture with Meldrome and Cliff Brickman, Bobo and Bob Kimblin, and it's a that's a pretty funny photo bomb. So I look back on that pretty fondly. And then yeah, twenty twenty twenty two, Ron Re from Trailian Giants, Jonathan Easley, a Western bigfoot exploration and myself we're gonna film with Meldrum and his lab at over in Idaho where he's at in Pocatello. And you know, we were like keeping in touch, you know, trying to plan it, and he's like, oh, I I probably have like an hour before I have to go because I'm going on a trip, and so you know, we planned just doing it like an hour we got we got to his lab, and he ended up giving us more than.

1:07:35 Like two hours. Like it was, he gave us way more time and everything. And he's such a nice guy and so he was super kind and very knowledgeable and like he's definitely an inspiration. To try and be a better researcher in the field. And so I think Meldrum is gonna hopefully inspire are a lot of people to come. And I think it's far too soon that he passed, and so he'll he'll be missed for sure. Oh, absolutely, extremely too soon for sure. Did he show you anything and his collection?

1:08:20 Yeah, he got to see some stuff. It was more like just kind of I can't even begin where to describe what to describe. It was like there there's like casts and hand prince there and he was like showing us some of those that he casted. I think he showed us the one he casted. He showed us some other original ones too. That was really cool to see and just kind of just pick his brain. A little bit about different things. Was awesome. Absolutely, And that's in one of your documentary episodes. Right, Yeah, that's the I think it's yeh. I think it's the third or fourth episode.

1:09:06 Of the Sabbe series on my YouTube channel. Yeah, so guys, if you want to check that out, you just look up Sasquatch, search for save on YouTube or the anonymous YouTube channel and to either episode three or four they visit doctor. Thank you man for coming up and for sharing real quick. I appreciate it. Don't know if you can hear me. I can hear you? Sound great? How's it going? Oh? Good? Good? I got a story that happened recently. This is in the middle of the United States, near the Mississippi Missouri River metropolitan area, kind of on the edge of the area, but instead of nursery, a guy was going to check on some pigs. We had a snowstorm, about seven inches of snow. So he was going out like at five o'clock in the morning to check on his pigs at his nursery. He gets out there as the sun's rising, and as he gets there, he notices that there's footsteps coming from the direction of the river and they're super spaced out, three or four toes on the footprints. They're huge footprints. They go all the way into where he's going to where the pigs are. He gets back there and there's like six juvenile pigs, but they were still

1:10:39 pretty good sized, about seventy sixty to seventy pounds each, and they were all gutted with They had like a circular hole in their abdomen and they were completely gutted. And then he realized that the foot the footprints went in, but they didn't go back out, so he freaked out and got out of there as fast as he could. This guy, the young man told me. This is about thirty years old, and I was checking out a car that he was selling. That's how I met the person. But I told him he was in an area where there's been a lot of bigfoot sightings and he told me that story. But I just think that I think people need to realize that these things are really out there.

1:11:24 And I saw the evidence of the pictures of the footprints, and I know he wasn't making this. Up Missouri River, Midwest. That could be that goes for quite a while, but yeah, something to keep in mind. But yeah, it's where the Missouri, yes, sir, it's where the Missouri and the Mississippi where they meet is where we're talking about. We're talking about on the edge of the metropolitan area there. So anyway, I just wanted to share that because I think everybody needs to know. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Thank you for coming up. Man. Oh you're welcome. Man, welcome to Sherry Up. Thank you, Hi there. How are you.

1:12:04 Doing good? How are you good? What brings jimp? Well, this happened almost forty years ago. I was with my dad and this was in just northwest of Kansas City, Missouri, out in the county and we lived out in the county off of Gravel Road. To get home, we had to go over a little low water bridge and one night, me and my dad, it was night, we were driving home, it was raining. We rounded in s curve coming to the low water bridge, and in the middle of the road was my dad called it a beast. But when it stood up, it was maybe six feet tall. I'm assuming a juvenile. But when we seen this, it was on all fours. But then it stood up on its hind legs and looked at us, and this is fifteen to twenty feet in front of us, and then it just took off like three four steps. That was across the road and into the woods. And at the time, you know, Dad didn't think anything about bigfoot or anything

1:13:36 like that. And back then, you know, if that's what you thought it was, you really didn't say anything. Well, a few months later, there was a cargo plane that had crashed less than a mile behind the house, and my dad went running through the woods and the creeks to go down to see if he could help anyone. And long story short, he become overcome with emotion and had stepped back in the woods and he said he had leaned against a tree as he was crying, which isn't like my dad, and he heard a footstep and when he looked up, he said that this thing was Dad was six foot four, three hundred and fifty pounds, and he said he felt dwarfed by this thing and it was just standing there, like two feet from him, just looking at him. And Dad said he was still crying, and when he looked this thing in the eye, he said he would swear it had a tear come down.

1:14:50 And about that time, one of the firefighters hollered something and Dad turned around and looked at him. Then he turned back to where this this thing was standing and it turned around to walk away, and when it did, he said he counted twelve to fifteen others that was in similar size all turn and walked back in through the woods. And Dad, we lost him a little over five years ago. He didn't open up with me and had these discussions on this until about ten years ago, and he remembered everything, and strangely, I was about six years old, and yet my dad described everything that I remembered about the juvenile that we saw, and he went into the details of what occurred in the woods. And after that night. There would be two or three times a week when we'd come out of the house in the morning, there would be a boulder on our front porch that would weigh twenty to thirty pounds, And there got to be so many of them that would show up that my dad actually built a flower bed out

1:16:23 of these boulders because he felt that whatever these were, we're bringing them up as a gift, that he wanted to be respectful, so he built the flower bed out of him. But I just kind of wanted to know your thoughts on that. So. It was the first off gifting thing. Yes, I I hear that all the time. Usually it's a lot weirder than that. So totally totally on board attacks deciding dad was Was that also north of Kansas City, Missouri?

1:17:06 Yes, where this plane went down was maybe one hundred yards from where he and I had seen the juvenile like two or three months before the plane crashed. Gotcha, and is this h I'm trying to think of like stuff north of Kansas City and Missouri, And the one that really comes to mind is an area called Monkey Mountain up there. Have you ever heard of that? I have? This isn't up there are you familiar with the area.

1:17:47 A little bit. I mean, I live up in Central Iowa, but I'm not. The city. Because if you take one two west and you're almost to the end of one fifty two and you come to Hampton Road, if you get off on Hampton and turn right, that takes you down to the Low Water Bridge and where this all took place. Okay, that's extremely interesting. I mean, his story is super unique because seeing so many together at once. I've really never heard many accounts that are like that. Were you able to get his story recorded or is it just your memories that you.

1:18:35 Haven't No, just my memories. He didn't want to go that far because he still felt that people would ridicule him. Sure for talking about that. Wow, what an incredible account, de onion. It's not the most wild thing I've ever heard. So yeah, I mean, also. Have you heard of a man named Randy Harrington. Yeah, Randy Harrington is a good guy. I've talked to him. Before you say I talked to him. I met him through a friend, and he wants to go to the area to do an investigation. So I will likely be joining up with him going back to the area and seeing what we can find.

1:19:28 No, I think that would be a great idea. Randy's a really good guy, so I would totally totally recommend that that would be a cool investigation for sure. So do you have your own investigation group centers? We do, We've done a couple. I actually run a search and recovery team for missing people, but some of my team members have had each experiences as well. And one of my team members is a regional director for move On. Okay, so we're gonna team up and do some investigations on some different things.

1:20:20 Wow, that sounds extremely cool. Yeah, thank you so much for coming up and for sharing your father's story. Is this a conversation I can put on my big Foot podcast? Yeah? Absolutely awesome. Awesome. I appreciate you coming up, sir, No problem, Thank you. Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the channel on YouTube hit the bell so you don't miss the next episode, and share this with a friend who's into mysteries, monsters, or the unexplained. And if you're listening to us on Spotify or Apple podcast, please follow the show there and leave us a five star positive review because all that helps more people discover the show.

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