Bigfoot and Dogman Encounters of Western New England

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Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In
this classic episode from twenty twenty two,

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I talked to Brian Bowden about his
multiple encounters with Bigfoot and docmen over the

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years in western New England. If
you've experienced something similar to what Brian has,

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or have more information regarding Bigfoot or
other cryptids in the same area,

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please reach out immediately to me after
this episode. Remember, your encounter could

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be the key to unlocking this mystery
once and for all, so please don't

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hesitate to contact me at Bigfoot Society
at gmail dot com. What was it,

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Brian that got you into these cryptid
subjects like dog Man Bigfoot? What

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drew you to it? Let's put
dogmin to the side for a Mimi,

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because growing up I used to watch
something a prop and Cold in Search of

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with Leonard Nimoy. Yes, yeah, okay, that's how I grew up.

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I love monster movies, I love
science UFOs. I was lucky enough

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that my mother was a school teacher
and she had the summers off, so

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she became a head counselor at a
sleepoy camp in Connecticut, okay, northwestern

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Connecticut, and I basically was born. They brought me up the camp and

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I've been there for like decades and
it was great. It was a great

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way to get away from New York
City for two months in the summer or

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a little bit more. We always
looked at the stars. Being in the

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city, the stars, the light
pollution just killed the stars exactly. So

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when you get to the country and
you see all these stars and you can

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actually see the Milky Way, that
portion of it, it's just amazing.

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And we used to see some crazy
objects that we tell stories, but for

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everything, I was into the Lockness
Monster, Bigfoot, the Abottomle Snowman,

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or Yeti, which is basically a
Bigfoot in winter. I always thought that

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Bigfoot was in the Pacific Northwest.
That's where Addison Gibbn film. Everything took

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place in the Pacific Northwest, and
I was like, I want to go

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to the Pacific Northwest. I want
to look at a Bigfoot. I'm not

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thinking anything of being in the East
Coast or anyplace else. And one summer

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in about ninety it was I don't
know if it was seventy seven, seventy

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eight, or seventy nine, I
don't remember that far back, but I

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slept on the bunk bed top bed
of a bunk, and when the counselors

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would come back from someone would watch
you in the bunk at night. And

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then some key councils were off.
So when the councils would come back from

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town drinking, eating peach or whatever, you knew that they were all back

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because every light was shut off.
Even the bathroom lights were shut off because

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they don't want to sleep with the
lights on. So I'm sleeping on this

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bunk bed now if my feet are
over here, there's a window right here

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next to my feet, and the
windows about I'm going to say maybe two

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and a half three feet maybe three
feet by three foot a glass window that

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slide into the bunk. And I'm
pretty high up. So and I have

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this smell coming, like a skunky
type of smell, and I have to

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get up. I have to go
to the bathroom. I thinking I'm like

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maybe ten years old maybe, So
I wake up, I wake up,

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I smell this smell. I know
the lights routs to all the counters in

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the back, and I get up. I sit up in my bed and

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I look and I noticed something's in
my window. So I'm like, okay,

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there's a lot of shadow play with
trees and the full mow and whatever.

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And I look, and the smell
of skunk, and that futrid,

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disgusting, skunky smell is really strong, not unusual for camp. But there

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seems to be a head or a
face in the window and it's doing this

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and I look, and I'm looking
at it from a I'm trying to hide

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my physical body because my feet are
exposed right by the window. And it

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looked like a giant monkey, okay, like a gorilla slash monkey. And

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I'm like, it got me unnerved. So I laid back down very slowly,

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try not to move because this thing
could have easily just went right through

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the glass pulled. So a little
bit nervous, and after about an hour,

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I just my bladder couldn't take it. So I slowly creep back up

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and then I get to away from
the window and I just slide down my

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bed and then I literally do a
dog crawl throughout the bunk and I have

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to pass. I go underneath my
bunk to the bunk that's right next to

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me, which is right by that
side entrance. I'm by the side where

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this thing was peeking in, and
there's a door there. Mind you,

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and I'm like, I'm literally crawling
from that point all the way over the

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length of the bunk and slowly sneaking
to the bathroom. Also knowing that the

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windows are there and this thing can
come in that way too, try not

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to make any noise. And I
peeked and I didn't see anything at that

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point, So I went to the
bathroom, I slid, I did the

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dog crawl back whatever. So that
was it. That was my experience,

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and it was really unnerving. Wow. And I didn't know what it was

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at the time, because, like
I said, bigfoots in the Pacific Northwest.

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That's what they tell you on in
search of yeah exactly. Now,

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I do have photograph memory, and
I was talking to my buddy, my

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partner, Al about his encounter in
Florida and stuff, and I said,

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I remember this moment, So I
said, let me do a search.

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So where my camp is, there's
a lake right next to it, to

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a reservoir, Crystal Lake. Now, I'll tell you what's very interesting about

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it. The people that did that
movie Friday the thirteenth, Yeah, came

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to my camp first. No way, Yes, they wanted to do it,

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which would have been I would have
been like, if I owned the

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property, go ahead, but just
replace every boat. Oh because but the

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owners were like, oh, it's
going to be a negative. They don't

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want the negativity. I'm like,
there's no negativity. You'd have brand new

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bumps and everything would be perfect.
So that's their touch. But it's literally

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butts up against my lake. My
camp. There's a lake, a little

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woodsy area, then my camp with
a little lake in it. So I

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start doing my research and I look
up bigfoot sightings in that area, and

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wouldn't the same year I had my
experience in the window, three separate people

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saw a two bipedal crypted hanging out
right by that reservoir. Really, yes,

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so it is, so I said, okay, so what I did

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see was legitimately a bigfoot. And
then that's when I was I'm older now,

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this is about fifteen twenty years ago. I didn't really bother to do

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it. I just been doing a
lot of independent stuff, and when you

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discover that there's bigfoot in your area, you take these little expeditions, research

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investigations. And I just so happen
to meet somebody who is very much into

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it. He started his own group
al and they started a bronxall paranormal.

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We started doing investigations together, but
we also do it separately. So that's

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how I got into it. I
was a little bit more into the UFO

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stuff because I thought that would be
cool. Yeah, we get abducted,

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we go to we Can. It's
cruising these planets and stuff, and I'm

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like, no, when you know
about Elliotts, you don't. That's a

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note for me one no please.
Yeah, first off, that's that's fascinating.

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I grew up in western mass and
I can I can vouch for you

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northwestern Connecticuts. People might think if
connecticun be like, oh is it really?

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Yes, it is really, it's
too Yeah. Yeah, we were

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you Neil Pittsfield, My so,
my one of my grandparents was in the

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Berkshires in Great Barrington. I know
you're basically the same. Okay, Well

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I grew up in Northfield in Franklin
County. Okay, throuit seven right,

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oh yeah yeah yeah, okay,
So I'll just let you know that the

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town I was in is Winstead.
They used to have a guy that they

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called Yes. Yes, okay,
so you've been through yeah, yep,

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it's about this big yeah. Yeah. The Winston wildman, and it's very

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interesting. There's been several sightings along
that road into Massachusetts, specifically Great Barrington.

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There used to be a coach that
would ride to Pittsfield and Great Barrington

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come back down through that way,
and it's there are several sightings of what

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they would call a wild man.
Was it called bigfoot? Back then in

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most places they didn't call him bigfoot
or sasquatch. It was a wild man.

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Oh that's a wild man. You
stay out of the woods. And

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it's basically an extremely large bipedal humanoid
esque entity, which is Bigfoot. We

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got Bigfoot and Sasquatch from Indian tribes. And then later on someone said,

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oh, look at the big Foot. You know the no brainers history.

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Ye, rest is. But that
whole area, that corridor is heavily,

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heavily traielve. And when what's interesting
is when you find out later on it's

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I have a buddy in Connecticut.
You should probably get on two called Chris

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Reinhardt. He does a lot of
investigations out of Winst in that area.

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He recently discovered and found a set
of prints. I think there were fourteen

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and a half inches right and left
that went on for a bit, and

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it's a classic thing that happens to
everybody that we've research investigates. When you

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have to carry packs, you're in
the woods all day, you want to

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keep enough water for you to drink, and but you also you want if

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you come across a track, and
what he came across was golden, you

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want to have some kind of casting
material. And he took it out that

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morning or before the investigation. He
was on to lighten the load a little

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bit. So if you didn't cast
it yet, you may have casted it

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now. But let me tell you
big time cryptids in that area, like

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Bigfoot, as well as I'll give
you an example of a dog man.

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All right, go ahead. So
the way my camp was structured. On

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one side of this main roadway that's
the surface road. That's a route I've

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got that or maybe two sixty three. And on one side it's the camp

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property and they own some sides on
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that's where the caretaker used to live, and they have something called the canteen

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where at night we'd have a social
One of my best friends in the Planner,

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who I met in that camp one
night we're hanging out there, and

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this is years after I had that
experience. I wasn't even thinking about it

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at the time. We would go
on hikes and explore all the time.

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But at night he decided to play, you know, around and go behind

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the building into the woods, just
you know, just do something. It

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was our free time. It's that
night we're supposed to be socializing. When

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anyhow, he comes out and he
is definitely afraid. I know this guy,

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and he's scared out of his Michigans. Don't go back there. Don't

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go back to there's a monster back
there. I'm like, what are you

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talking about it? He says,
it's ten feet tall, it's got things,

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it's got yellow eyes, it's got
claws, it's a month and don't

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go back there. And he was
adamant about this thing. And I'm like,

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come on, let's go, Bobo, don't go back there. And

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we went back and we're not gonna
we believe him because he was you can

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see he was unnerved, you know. So we go back there and we

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don't find anything. But that's the
experience. And to this day, when

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I question it, he says,
oh, I was making it up,

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and I know him well enough to
know that he was not. Yeah,

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there's something you can see. You
could probably see in his eyes. There's

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a certain panic that you have in
a moment where you're scared. You can't

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replicate that. You're not that good
an actor. Very few can. And

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so what you come to find out
is a bigfoot as a researcher of all

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this stuff, cryptids and dogmen,
and I never wanted to believe dogmen was

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real, thank you to my partner, but it is nine out of ten

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times, if you have bigfoot in
the area, you'll have dogmen, and

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there's usually something that separates them and
they like you stay on your side,

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We'll stay on our side, okay. And usually it's because there's a source

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of made, source of water,
and there's a lot of type of food.

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So in that area specifically, there's
a lot of water, fresh water,

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there's fish, there's turtles, there's
deer. Something that's interesting. The

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bears have come back in, but
there weren't as many when we were going

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to camp Okay, So that could
be from a eight to nine foot bipedal

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bigfoot, and there's been many reports
of bigfoot actually having interactions with bears to

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territorial and ripping them to shreds.
Wow. Just think about this concept for

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everybody's watching. Okay, remember Michael
Jackson and Bubba that little chimp. Yeah

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yeah, yeah, okay, so
Bubbles has a little chimpanzee like a baby

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chimp. Yeah, without even thinking
about it, could rip your arm out

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of it socket. Oh you know
if your body. Oh yeah, and

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Bubbles was maybe three feet right,
yeah, maybe super small. Yeah,

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okay, what do you think an
eight foot version of that could do?

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Game it over exactly. It's no
joke. When you see some of these

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videos, you see these big trees
moving. Yeah, whatever. So that's

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once you start really investigating it.
And I investigated when I started getting older

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were I had a car. Don't
get me wrong, I was into very

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much the women around there. But
it's also what are we doing today?

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Let's do this? And we did
a day night investigation fast forward when I

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first met my buddy Al and we
did we did an investigation once a place

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called the Letchworth Village. Okay,
it's up in Sales, New York.

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It's twenty nine thousand square acres of
a hospital that they would put the insane

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vast undesirable unwanted. Now, what's
interesting about this hospital is there was a

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lot of doctors there that would experiment
on individuals, no matter if it was

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a baby or an adult. And
they did polio experiments there as well.

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I think it was polio or TV
one of the two. Okay. So

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the way they had to candidate that
work of vaccination or whatever work is if

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you didn't die, we're onto something, right, Okay. Yeah. So

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separate from where the facility is was
this cemetery, and in the cemetery that's

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where they used to put all the
bodies and they dumped hundreds of bodies there

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from literally one day old to ninety
whateve years old. Us are all the

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ones that have died or they experimented
on it, whatever. So it was

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an unknown graves for a while.
Some of the families that had relatives there,

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they banded together and they put up
a plaque. So when you walk

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into this place, it's separate from
the hospital, you act. You have

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to drive to it in a different
area. There's a lot of land between

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it and the way. It's situated
on a back road that's paved. There's

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like maybe three houses and you have
to park your car you'll walk through this

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path about a quarter of a mile
and then it opened up to this what

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it looks like a little bit of
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the right and the left, and
in the center is a plaque that's probably

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I'm gonna say, about four and
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half five feet wide, and on
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So we were going on an investigation
there. Now, the way this was

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situated, we're doing a day night
thing. We like to do day and

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night if we can, because things
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a bit, you pick up a
little bit more you're you know, it's

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a little bit more focused at you
know, a nighttime. So what was

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interesting is if you picture where you're
if I'm ending at the cemetery, there's

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a tree, there's a mound,
there's no grave markers, it's just a

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plaque, and the road goes,
you know, there's a little path into

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the right around the mound and to
the left and to the left of us

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is a clear cut that they use
for high tension wires. Right, we

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started doing a survey for us.
We walked in, we went in there

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and we started walking around a bit, and we walked past the cemetery and

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walked up this path. Wow,
this is a cool place. I would

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have been hanging out there as a
kid in it's there and drinking beers or

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doing whatever. Right, and especially
if I had a four wheel drive,

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it would be like whatever. So
it's very squatchy. So you have water

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nearby, you got swampy, you
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thinking more along the lines of ghosts. I'm in the ghost hunting mode because

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we're there to certain do the invests. And in the background you can hear

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some dogs barking, and there was
this one really big bark that we heard

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throughout the day. My buddies,
Dude, you he hear that dog?

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Like, yes, it sounds like
a really big one. Sounds like a

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mask stuff or something like that.
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we felt we were missing something.
We're just trying to figure it out.

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So we go back and start doing
our investigation. He goes one way

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on the cemetery and I go the
other. And the cemetery is for all

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tents and purposes, maybe like a
thousand square feet, but like a circle

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or a rotunda. Sure, so
I'm doing my stuff, he's doing this

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stuff. We hear the dog barks
and he's being drawn to a certain path

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and I'm just hanging out and we
just it just there's something weird about it.

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We felt like there's something else going
on there. There should be other

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other things that were present given the
type of location what we were seeing,

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because we noticed things more than other
people, tree markers, breaks and stuff.

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So we go to this one point
and we said, let's go to

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this one point and see where this
meter, the MF meter is reading and

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if, for the most part,
being next to high intensity h tention wires,

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it wasn't that bad. Very surprised. So we hear these dogs barking

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and we're sitting there and then I
sit down for a minute to look up.

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And then I look up and I
see in the tree, probably about

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I'm six foot one mind you,
okay, maybe ten feet up, there's

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a break, a fresh break really
in the tree. And I'm like,

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yo, take a look. Oh
that's unusual, like what came through here?

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That's going to break that. So
now I'm like, okay, what's

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going on? He goes Should I
do a Should I do a tree knock

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or a call. I said,
you know what, let's try with a

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tree knock. So he finds a
piece of wood. It's bad, finds

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another piece of wood and the dogs
are barking, and the minute he hits

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that tree, boom, the dogs
shut up. Oh yeah, there's silence

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there, so okay, they definitely
know and where him and I are picking.

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We pick up on each other as
we know that there was one tree

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knock. Okay, so we try
to do a hall. Doesn't work.

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We play around with the Tibetan singing
bowl to try to ramp up the energy

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and ye interesting, okay, we
love Tibetan things singing. Yah. Yeah,

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it's for some reason, the vibration, the frequency coming out of them,

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depending on which one you're using.
I usually use the hard chakra,

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and I forgot what note that is
right off the bat. I apologize I

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haven't used him in a while.
My wife and daughter, oh stop,

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don't dose that. I'm like,
I have to be dad too, And

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our EMF meter starts to go a
little bit wacky, so I said,

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okay, so we started doing like
a call and response type of thing.

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I'm like, are you if you're
actually responding to us, no you're here,

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make this go up to ninety and
boom goes up to ninety. Okay,

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great, no problem. So we
start playing around it. So now

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we're getting into this. It's paranormal
ghosty. But there's a cryptic type of

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marker here that I'm liking. And
he starts going to hear that barking,

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getting this feeling, he gets these
certain feelings. He goes off on his

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own and we regroup later on.
So as we come back, this isn't

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that much time we've been there.
We've been there maybe an hour. We

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see these two kids on a four
wheel drive type of thing. I forgot

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what they're called. They come flying
in here and they come flying and looking

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and they're talking. But yeah,
we're looking for them. Now we know

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they walked in here. We're looking
for them, so we're figuring, like,

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okay, what's this. So they
come in there and they go along

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the path. They miss us because
we're actually at this point, we decided

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to sit behind the marker that where
they give you the list of the people

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who are buried there, so nothing
can come over our backs. So it's

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like a good point to be.
So got our backs covered and we can

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see out this way and they're looking
for us. It's clear that they're looking

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for us. So we when they
come back, we like, we say

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hello to them. Maybe it's private
property. We'll just want to get an

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idea. And we get up there
and they're like, what are you doing

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here? And I'm like, oh, we're paranormal investigators. We wanted to

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come electorate cemetery. And they're like
when we're like, can we ask you

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some questions about the cemetery? No, and they take off real quick.

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Whoa wow, like on a purpose, Like they went in they came out,

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and we noticed that. We're like, wow, that's odd. They

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were pretty quick. They would look
like they were looking or they couldn't get

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out of here fast enough. So
mental note back in the head hit my

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buddy's head. We continue on with
their investigation and then we decide to go

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away for a little bit to get
some eat early dinner, take a break,

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we eat, We come back,
it's still a little bit light out

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and we start investigating the front end
of this area and we hear this and

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like I even commented, like,
wow, that dog's pretty big. That

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dog sounds pissed. It's really deep. You can kind of feel it.

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So we walked back the path where
we came in and there was a cutoff

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to the right. We start walking
down the cutoff and it's the same area

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to the right of us that my
buddy Al was being drawn to, and

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we start walking. He starts looking
and as we walk in we see this

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structure. There is a huge tree
structure. Now big Food usually leans trees,

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they do tps that do stars,
just certain things here. Okay,

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so this was easily a three foot
in circumference tree that was ripped from the

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ground with its roots flipped upside down, so the roots are up there and

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attached. It was stand. It
was like perfectly straight here, and you

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had other trees ripped out with the
roots like this on top of it,

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so it looked like a giant umbrella. Weird. That is very dog man,

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I said, wow, I said, And it's really funny when on

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your focus on one thing, sometimes
you miss the abvia signs. And that

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really clicked. I said, this
is very to myself, this is very

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dogman asque Okay, but I'm like, we're really too close to the city

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for a dog man. I'm like, that's my opinion, what would it

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be doing here? And I started
walking a little bit further in the woods

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because we hear some sounds coming from
that direction. My buddy Al's going to

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stop, says, I got this
feeling they're trying to draw in someplace.

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This doesn't feel right. Come back, and we've learned to trust each other's

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instincts that so I come back and
we're not being we're not. We don't

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continue down that path to investigate what
those sounds are. So we come back

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and we're like, look, let's
stay together. Fine, now I'm trying

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to give you set this up.
So we're The entrance to this cemetery is

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off this like two lane road.
There's a little area to the when you

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pull up to it, there's a
little area to the left gravel that you

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would park your car. You probably
could fit three to four cars there,

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and then if you go up a
quarter mile more on the right hand side,

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it looked like a nature trail and
there's one of those light fixtures that's

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like incandescent light. Okay, it's
yellowish. So when we came back,

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we parked up there under the light
so people can see that, oh,

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someone's probably on the trail. You
know, we don't want to get in

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trouble. We don't. We're not
here to get arrested, so no problem.

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So we continue with our investigation and
my buddy starts getting really acting funny,

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like he has this weird look on
his face. He has issues with

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his technology. I'm like, are
you okay? Yeah, I'm fine.

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Why And I'm like, now,
you don't see him right? And it's

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getting cooler and colder, and you
hear this, like this wolfish type of

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and at one point, just through
our evidence, I heard it and I

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said, did you hear that?
Did you hear a growl or barking?

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And my buddy on the audio says, nope. And the next thing you

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hear right next to is like that
right, I didn't hear it at that

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time, Okay, I just noticed
I heard it, like something that sounds

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like a growls. Getting colder,
full moon, and all of a sudden,

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we're sitting there. This is probably
about three four hours. It's getting

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cooler. I have to use the
restroom, but I'm not going to urinate

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anywhere near a cemetery. That's very
disrespectful. Yeah, not a smart idea,

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no matter. I get it.
I get it. Yeah, So

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I said, you know what I'm
gonna I said to myself, hold on

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when we get to the car,
when we go, and I'll peel over

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there. And I don't know if
you ever heard of Steve Stockton. He's

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another great writer. He's on the
list to talk to. He's a great

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Yeah, he's a buddy of mine. This story because you'll hear it.

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Okay, So it's funny where we're
staying. You can see the moon breaking

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through the full moon. Mind you
were at a cemetery, and my hand

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to god, this white miss starts
rolling in and it's like your classic if

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you've ever seen those old wereholves.
It's like this white fog coming in.

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And I'm like and I'm like,
dude, are you seeing this? And

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he's yeah, seeing that, Like
holy crap. So we stay there a

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little bit longer and he's acting where
I said, look, he's getting a

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little bit chilled. I said,
we've been here long enough. Let's just

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go back to the car. You
know, I got to get to the

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bathroom. Let's go back, right, and we agree, so we pack

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our stuff up. Actually, before
that happens, these guys come back in

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and we and when they come back
in, we're going to ask them about

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their experiences. Again. Oh,
so these guys notice us when we came

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back in, and again they come
in like bats that hell, and they're

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looking for us. And we're like, you know, okay, can we

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ask you questions about trained stuff here? No, and we're out of here,

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and then they go again. Very
strange. It's like they know something

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we don't. Oh, they know
a lot more than they're not going to

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tell because no one believes you when
you tell these things. But so we

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walked back out. We have our
little lamps on and we start walking to

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the car. And as we're walking
to the car, I'm on his pastor's

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side of this, my buddy's vehicle. It's a jeep, little jeep,

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cheap Liberty. So I figured,
okay, we'll get to the car.

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Just before I get in, i'llpe
on the side now where his car is

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I'm standing on. I would be
standing on a three foot grade. Okay.

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As we're walking, we see eyeshine. Now I'm thinking here, And

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as we're getting there, it's getting
a little bit more amberish and it's getting

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bigger, and it's right by the
car. Oh, and I'm like,

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what the hell is that? And
we're looking now. I don't have any

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firearms. I don't. I'm gonna
live in New York City. It's impossible

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to get yeah, I know.
Yeah, So what we do is on

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investigations we carry machete. So I
have one here, oh interesting, one

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here and one on my side,
plus a couple folding nights. Wow.

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We have bear, we have big
cat. Yeah, we have other things.

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Makes sense. I don't really want
to kill anything, but you got

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to protect yourself, right, I
get it. Yeah, So I got

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the machete here and I got it
on the side. Whatever, but backpack.

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We get to the car and I
got paid. I'm going to be

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brutally on it. So as we
get there, we see this thing sitting

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there, like, is it a
deer? It's not a deer and it's

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just been the shadows. You can
see its shape. It's got this shape

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of a head. It has these
like a Marmaduke type of ears, like

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big ears. Wh yeah yeah,
and it looks like a snout and their

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yellow eyes and it's sitting there on
a tunch, doesn't move, doesn't blank,

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doesn't do anything. Now where I
am I am no more than fifteen

404
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feet to twenty feet from it.
I've had dogs my entire life. I

405
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:03.440
know all about So I got a
pee. So everybody else put we're talking

406
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.119
about see Hackman's not moving. Maybe
it's a document. It was too big.

407
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:11.839
And then it hits me that I'm
six foot one I'm standing on a

408
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.559
three foot grade. That makes me
nine feet one inches. This thing sitting

409
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.920
down on its hunch, it's now
was about here to my notes. Oh

410
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:26.079
my goodness. So that means that
this thing sitting is over eight feet tall.

411
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.880
So I start peeing in front of
it, and my buddies, Dude,

412
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:30.319
get in the car. We could
do this light. I'm like,

413
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.000
you know, dude, I gotta
go. And I'm peeing in front of

414
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.559
it, and I put my bag
in the car whatever, and I'm peeing

415
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.359
and it's just sitting there and it's
like I'm going. It was like an

416
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:44.160
Austin Powers type of pe I gotta
be honest. Oh yeah, like evacuation

417
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.799
cold please. Yeah. It was
just kept going. Now we're dating ourselves,

418
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:51.799
yeah yeah, we date ourselves all
we want. And my buddies getting

419
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:52.839
the car. Bro I get in
the car. I'm like, I'm not

420
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.359
finished. It was get in the
car with Levi here and I'm like,

421
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:57.839
dude, I'm up and I'm looking
at him in the car and then I

422
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:00.880
look back and we noticed this thing. And what it does is it just

423
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:07.640
slowly goes down, lies down,
one fluid motion and then disappears. Now

424
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.839
at that minute, when stuff's about
to get real for me and when I'm

425
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.880
gonna have an experience or something's gonna
happen, I get the goose pimples yep,

426
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.960
yep, hard as a rock,
and I'm like, time to go.

427
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.319
I threw my stuff in there,
and I got in the car and

428
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:26.720
we peeled off and that was that
was our experience. But I was on

429
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:32.559
more than fifteen to twenty feet from
this, and it was definitely I know

430
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:37.160
enough about dogs. There's no dog
in the planet that sitting down is eight

431
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:42.160
feet tall. Yeah, And at
that moment we started discussing it. I

432
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:47.880
kept looking out the back, but
nothing came out. And here's the interesting

433
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:52.359
part. If we're talking about dog
man as a canine or a bipedal whatever,

434
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:57.200
canine based cryptid, when you urinate, When a dog urinates in front

435
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.480
of another dog, it marks its
terror tory. Yeah, it says to

436
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:04.160
that dog, I'm the boss,
I'm the outfare I may have saved you,

437
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:08.480
dude. You know. So we're
thinking about this and I was talking

438
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.480
to my buddy out. I'm like, like, he goes, dude,

439
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:12.160
don't ever do that again. I'm
gonna leave you. I'm like, you're

440
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.440
not gonna leave me. You love
me too much and you have to chand

441
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.319
that clap to my wife. It's
not gonna happen. But it was very

442
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.039
It was fine up to that point
where he disappeared. It was very unnerving

443
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.440
type of thing. But I just
always thought like this dogman was like,

444
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:32.400
holy crap, this guy's crazy.
Yeah, being in front of me,

445
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:34.640
I just they're gonna be going back
to the to the crew at the pound

446
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:38.440
or the dogman town going. So
there he was. He's standing there and

447
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.319
he's being in front of me.
What do you think he is? Yeah,

448
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.279
he's That's wild, dude. That's
one of the wildest stories I've ever

449
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:49.799
heard on this podcastside of Jody Cook. I'm not even kids. I know

450
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:55.200
Jody, but God's honest truth.
And Steve Stockton loves that. He goes.

451
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:56.880
I've gotten so much mileage out of
it. But it's the truths,

452
00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:03.039
but the concept is now from that
point I've had I've been in situations where

453
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.039
there were dog Men present, but
I haven't interacted with them, and I'm

454
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.880
wondering. It seems like with this
cryptid, which I didn't want to believe

455
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.839
to begin with, I was like, okay, come on, werewolves there

456
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:19.319
are one hundred percent legitimate and real. They are very horrific according to Vic

457
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:23.960
Kundiff basically and through the research it's
seven variants. I don't know my camera's

458
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:29.279
catching seven variants. Whatever. There
you go, and you have the soldier

459
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:33.799
ones that look like something out of
Van Helsing, like these monsters that like

460
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:38.000
rip you up. They are very
menacing looking. There's nothing nice about this

461
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:45.680
cryptid, No, not at all. Zero. Okay up until there's a

462
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.119
Dogmen type three, which is like
a hybrid. So what I did before

463
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:49.839
the show, because I've never been
on the show, and I thank you

464
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.880
very much have me on your show. I feel so high browed that we're

465
00:30:53.920 --> 00:31:00.839
talking dog Man and Bigfoot on the
society society something. It's really they don't

466
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.319
want me here. I'm not a
society type, but it's a it's an

467
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:06.920
interesting name for a put it's a
whole. I think it's great. I

468
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:12.440
think it's fantastic. But something very
interesting is there's a dogman type three and

469
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:15.960
one of them is it looks a
little bit like a bigfit, but it

470
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:19.920
also looks like a dog has that
K nine type of lichen or a nubius

471
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.960
look to it, but it's not
as menacing. And my theory what I've

472
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:26.839
do that's a word. People there
you go. I think that there's a

473
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:33.160
point in time and I have some
other theories on this. We're bigfoot and

474
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.519
dogmen do a west side story.
Yeah, I got you, And they

475
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.559
may and I think they have the
ability to connect with each other. And

476
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.400
maybe it's the way I look at
it is maybe it's the weaker length for

477
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.680
both ends of it. The runts
of the litter sounds really weird and impersonal,

478
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:55.000
and they just find each other and
they propagate and they'll produce pups as

479
00:31:55.039 --> 00:32:00.440
well as bigfoot or dogman type threes. We did another investmenttigation and we did

480
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:06.559
it up in upstate New York,
very close. I'll just say it's near

481
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:12.000
fifty five twenty two is area if
you know that, that's or forty four

482
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:16.000
and route forty Okay, Okay,
I know where like speculator is, you're

483
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:21.839
talking like, No, I'm talking
actually where your grandparents near. Okay in

484
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.039
that Yeah, there's a place in
the four corners there where Massachusetts, New

485
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:29.960
York, and Connecticut meet is a
place. Yep, bish Bash Falls,

486
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.200
dude. I've been to bash Yeah, it's wild. I love that place.

487
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.279
My father used to take me there
all the time when I was a

488
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.440
little kid. All the water,
dude, I love that. I always

489
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:43.480
felt it was weird too. But
there's not in the weird stuff. So

490
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:45.680
he never told me weird stories.
He's know them. He probably has seen

491
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.960
some things or know some things through
years and years of X, Y and

492
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:54.799
Z. But oh, that's Roberts
folklore. But I'll tell you when you

493
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.880
start investigating these things, it's not
folklore. Yeah. So this is close

494
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.960
there, but more on the New
York side. Okay. I'm being very

495
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:06.680
vague for reasons because I want to
protect certain areas. So this is a

496
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:14.880
big lake and it was really once
used for by United Nuclear Corporation to to

497
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:20.519
do They were working with weapons grade
uranium to develop an engine. What kind

498
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:22.839
of engine, we don't know,
but they had an accident there and it

499
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.880
went into the lake and the military
adventure cleaned it up. But it's an

500
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:31.920
area throughout time from indigenous people,
has high strangeness in the area, really

501
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:37.960
lots of high strangeness, cryptids,
gnomes, elemental type of creatures, everything

502
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:44.039
even. Right, Yeah, So
we decide, my buddy decides we're doing

503
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:51.119
a day night investigation Halloween eve,
full mown meteor shower. So we said,

504
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:52.519
okay, cool, we'll go.
We'll go to the lake. Now,

505
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:59.440
the park closes at sunset, but
the Appalachian Trail kind of skirts the

506
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:01.160
lake a little it, right,
Yeah, So you could be on the

507
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.079
Appalachian Trail all you want, but
when you get into a federal park,

508
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.760
they close. Yeah, and they're
pretty good about it. So we can't

509
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.440
park in their parking lot. So
we park a half a mile away in

510
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.920
a certain area and we hoof it
and we walk down a half a mile

511
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:21.360
and then once you get to the
park, it's probably about three quarters of

512
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.480
a mile to get to the tip
of the lake. And when you get

513
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:29.039
to the tip of this there's still
radiation poisoning in there. There's radioactive ways.

514
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.880
Whoa right, So you can either
take a path to the right of

515
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:37.679
the lake or to the left.
If you go to the right of the

516
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:39.159
lake, it's a goat trail.
There's no way you're going to make it,

517
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:44.079
and there's rocks. You're gonna die. Literally, it's not for the

518
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.400
fate of heart. No one really
does it because it's just too complex.

519
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.079
So you go to the right.
Now, as you go to the right,

520
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.559
you can meet up with the Appellachian
trail. And then at certain spots

521
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:57.440
is it's not like it's a place
where you can park your rear and start

522
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.599
a campfire. They don't want that, but it's a little but open up

523
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:05.239
an area there and then it's a
nice spot. Now, my buddy went

524
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:10.039
there prior previously because he's been there
before. He's had interactions with what he

525
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:15.840
calls a bipedal crypton Bigfoot, and
he's brought people there and he's heard the

526
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.039
monkey barking stuff. So I'm excited. I'm like, cool, let's go,

527
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.239
let's do this. So we walk
in and we walked this one spot.

528
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.840
We say, okay, there's at
that spot. There's a rock formation

529
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:30.960
to the left of us that's pretty
high up. It's impossible really to get

530
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:35.400
in there. The where it's located, because it's just it's really intense as

531
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.639
no, even if you try to
circle back around it, it would take

532
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:43.079
you hours to get this one spot. And on top of it is a

533
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.599
whole. It looks it's like a
karen So it's like a piling of rocks.

534
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:51.880
Yeah, I gotcha. I find
it very, very weird. But

535
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:57.280
knowing a little bit about the Inuit
Indians from the north, they have something

536
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:01.440
called a nookahshuok and that's a That's
what they do is they build these rock

537
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:07.920
totems that look like humans and they're
like with arms out legs, and they

538
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.360
put that up purposely to ward off
the evil and say, nope, there's

539
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.679
something here, don't come here.
So, okay, this is weird.

540
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:19.480
We go a little bit further and
by the time we get to the location

541
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.920
he wants to start at because there
are two of these. He found two

542
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:29.239
three quartz balls like quartz rock that
was like chip the way, so they're

543
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:34.320
round. We're not smooth, but
rounded, not natural. At the other

544
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:36.400
end of the lake, so at
the top point of the lake, it's

545
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.639
about two miles so he says,
we're going to make our stands here that's

546
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:42.000
where we're going to start, and
then we'll slowly come back to this era

547
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.679
and we'll do another investigation here and
then that's how That's what the plan was.

548
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.519
So we go there and there's three
of us. There's me, my

549
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:51.920
buddy Al, and a friend of
ours name Bill. Bill had a YouTube

550
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.679
program me videotape, so we I
wanted him to go there. He wanted

551
00:36:54.719 --> 00:37:00.480
to go, but I wanted a
little videotaping. Accident. I try to

552
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:05.079
live stream through Twitter. Yeah,
the cell signals were so I was trying

553
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.559
to do live streaming, trying not
do live streaming. So when we got

554
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.400
this one location, the way we
set it up, if you're looking at

555
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:15.840
us, I'm all the way to
the right, About ten feet in my

556
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.400
right is Al, and then about
ten feet to him, he's behind a

557
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.639
bigger set of rocks. Okay.
Then to ten feet to his right is

558
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:29.239
Bill standing sitting in an area that's
a little bit near a mini rock wall,

559
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:30.920
one of those rock walls you're finding
the woods. So we set our

560
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.559
stuff up. We don't start a
fire because we don't have any problems with

561
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.719
any fire. We're not really supposed
to be there, and we start doing

562
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:44.280
investigation. Now's listening through power perabolic
microphone exactly, and you hear tree knocks

563
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:45.480
every once in a while, like, wow, did you hear that tree

564
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:50.519
knock? Yeah? I got that. But basically Bill's videotaping for himself,

565
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:54.239
narrowing whatever he's doing there. I'm
doing my own investigation, and I have

566
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:59.440
all my meters out, I'm checking
out a meth meters, I got fleear,

567
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:04.119
I've got full spectrum cameras whatever,
taking pictures. And now's doing his

568
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:08.000
own thing. And he discovers a
certain point when he used the parabolic mic

569
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:14.119
As he points it up, he
gets this like weird noise. It's almost

570
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:17.039
like an SOS or Morse code.
And I'm like, I'm looking at and

571
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.679
what the hell is that? And
I said it could be one thing to

572
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.880
be a microwave transmitter, but the
military and US government used in case of

573
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:30.000
a nuclear bomb, which they said
they're shut off, but I think they

574
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.159
still use them now. It could
be radiation from the lake because this tree,

575
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:36.679
if you go back to when this
tree is, it would be a

576
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.039
lot lower, so it's roughly about
the heightware through the growth process, or

577
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:45.880
it's freaking aliens, so there's and
all the while we're there, I kept

578
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:52.000
hearing rock knocks boom across the lake
us and I kept hearing tree knocks.

579
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.920
So I'm like, okay, this
is very interesting. And in the distance,

580
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.519
being in the woods, you can
hear a lot further away, but

581
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.679
in the distance from us, we
kept hearing dogs barking. And as the

582
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:07.880
night started to get darker and the
sun starts setting, we started playing again

583
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:09.880
with the Tibetan singing balls, ramping
it up. Okay, okay, we

584
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:14.679
did some experiments. He has a
rose quartz crystal head skull. I have

585
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:19.880
a clear crystal. His name's Scully. That's cool. So we were doing

586
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.639
you know, we're hitting it with
emf meters, We're hitting it with the

587
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:28.920
temperature gauges. Nothing was rating off
of these rocks. There was no anomalies.

588
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:35.239
But once you started doing the Tibetan
singing bowls, this pressure started building.

589
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.440
As it was getting darker. We
were there, man, and to

590
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:44.000
explain the pressure, the best way
you can explain it is if you've ever

591
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:49.079
been well in the summer someplace and
you smell of rain coming, it gets

592
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.159
a little bit pressurized. Yep.
It was like but that on crack.

593
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:57.159
It was like a thousand times worse. He just felt uncomfortable. Okay,

594
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.519
So we said, let's call it
Psyche in Arkansas. Okay, So we

595
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:05.119
call her up and she gets on
the phone and she's all jump but you

596
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:08.119
can't hear a word from her,
but you okay, it's very straight,

597
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:13.000
there's a lot of energy, it's
very strength, and eventually we have to

598
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:17.159
cut her off. And at that
point we're hearing louder wood knocks from where

599
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.920
we are. So we're at the
top of this somebody we're up here,

600
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:24.440
and to the right of us there's
a little bit of water here, so

601
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:29.760
a lake. There are wood knocks
coming from that direction, and it's getting

602
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.599
more and more intensive. You can
feel it like you want to like something's

603
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:37.360
going to go on, something's happening. And at one point we kept hearing

604
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.119
footfall, but it felt it was
really weird. It was like heavy footfall.

605
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.320
And again, the way I best
can can describe it is I've been

606
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:49.880
to some agriculture a fairs like for
you would be the Goshen Fair or the

607
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.320
Big e up there in Massachusett,
and when you have a team of horses

608
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:58.239
walking, or if you've ever been
to an outdoor circus. You can feel

609
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.960
when the elephants move, like,
what was that? That's the elephant movie.

610
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:04.639
That's what it felt like. I'm
like, whatever this thing is,

611
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:09.239
it's big. We heard breaks here
and there, but it's very slow and

612
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:14.639
we're all doing our own thing.
And the next thing, it's dark.

613
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.559
It's pitch black. Now, me
being from New York, got understand.

614
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:22.920
So's my buddy Al, and so's
actually Bill. I'm always looking for Okay,

615
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:24.480
if something happens, now, where
am I going to go? I'm

616
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:29.639
not jumping in nuclear wasted water.
No, I don't climb trees that good.

617
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.079
I can't go to the left of
me, which is the goat trail.

618
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:36.519
It's pitch black. So I'm gonna
have to make a book. I

619
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:38.519
would have to go to the right
or stand my ground. Basically, I

620
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:42.800
have to stand my ground. Something
happens, okay, and we're hearing these

621
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:50.000
ladder wood knocks and whatever. And
at one point again we're just sitting there

622
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.880
and my buddy out goes it sounds
like people are here. I'm like,

623
00:41:53.920 --> 00:42:00.280
it's not people. And the next
thing you know, you hear some thing

624
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:06.159
running in Bill's direction from behind him. And he gets up running, so

625
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:10.079
I get up and we form a
pyramid. Yeahw I'm to OL's right.

626
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:15.719
So we're like that pyramid thing and
Bill starts taking off. Now, if

627
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.360
he didn't stop, he would have
killed himself. He would have poked his

628
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.400
eye out, he would have went
into the really bad. So I'm ready

629
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:27.360
and I've got my machete three quarters
drawn, and I'm like, okay,

630
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:31.320
let's go. And I'm thinking it's
either bear possibly or a big cat.

631
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:36.559
Al's think it also a big cat, but this is really big and Bill

632
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:39.199
is just panicked, so I'll go
stand your ground. Bill standing, Bill

633
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:43.119
is useless at this point. I
love your Bill, but you were useless.

634
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:45.800
So it's just me and Al.
And then we turn on this flashlight.

635
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.360
So Bill had like a three million
or six million white flashlight. We

636
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:54.039
look in that direction, there's nothing
there. We use soul spectrum camera,

637
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:59.920
nothing, flear nothing. We run
over to the area and there's nothing.

638
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.199
It would literally sound it was right
next to us. So okay, this

639
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:07.360
is really strange. So we settled
back down again. Al's using the parabolic

640
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:13.400
mic and at this point we hear
the tree knocks again, and then we

641
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.440
hear them again, and the next
thing, you know, my buddy goes,

642
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:21.159
I think there are people here,
and you hear who And then the

643
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.639
third whoop is at the other end
of the lake two miles away, and

644
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:25.360
he goes, I think that's people. I'm like, are you out of

645
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:30.440
your mind? Yeah? Yeah,
it's not. And you could feel this

646
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:37.119
thing reverberating in your chest with you. I do investigate this stuff. I'm

647
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.559
a glutton for punishment. As they
say, it was a depends moment.

648
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.920
Yeah, you're just like it was
just and you go, what was that?

649
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.199
I'm like, dude, that was
right here, and where it came

650
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:52.400
from was right behind us. We're
at between al am I on this little

651
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.039
ledgend of the area. We run
up to that area full lights blazing it.

652
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:59.440
Right after that, there's nothing.
We don't hear a tree knock.

653
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:04.480
We don't hear anything else after that
point. And I'm thinking like, okay,

654
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.440
I got it now, and in
my head I've already had this judgment.

655
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:13.800
This is a bigfoot and no freaking
doubt about it. And when that

656
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.360
tree knock happened, they were two
really close together. He or she this

657
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:22.159
bigfoot said whoop. There are three
of them. Take the long way home.

658
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:24.239
Yeah, I don't say what I'm
saying. Yeah, it was an

659
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:29.639
advanced scout and we did not move
from that point. We just didn't move.

660
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.480
We stood our grounds. Oh man. So after that, a few

661
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.719
minutes later, I think it got
pissed off. And the next thing you

662
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:42.599
hear come at You hear something coming
from the trees behind me, like breaking

663
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:46.039
branches. And then I hear a
thud right behind me. Boom. And

664
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:50.280
I'm sitting one of those like Coleman
type of chairs. Yeah, yep,

665
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:54.039
and a heel a roll hits my
chair throws me out of my chair forward

666
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:58.800
wo and I look and there's this
I'm gonna say it's a boulder. It's

667
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:02.360
a bigger rock than I can It's
a couple hundred pounds man. And I

668
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.599
was just like, holy crap,
this thing wanted to kill me. Ohud

669
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:10.079
have been dead. Yeah, so
mind you again. We're taking pictures.

670
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:14.480
We have flear, we have all
these different type of cameras. I use

671
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:19.800
a special camera and Olympus A four
really for underwater photography, but I use

672
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.960
it on investigations because when you're they
have an algorithm in there where you capture

673
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:29.599
the scene. But it helps to
add light to the photo where it'll so

674
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:34.199
it's like a dark camera. It's
something with very little lux but without any

675
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.599
manipulation of the actual image. That's
why I liked it. Okay, that's

676
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.519
so I and of Records video.
Okay. Cool. So after a while,

677
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:47.199
once that final blow with that rock
happened, that pressure we felt,

678
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:52.719
yeah, disappeared. It was like
like an elephant came off my chest.

679
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:54.760
I'm like, holy crap. So
we're breathing, and I said, you

680
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:58.920
know what we've been here to,
let's final goes. Yeah, let's move

681
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:05.000
to the next destination. So this
is probably about I'm gonna say ninish nine

682
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.039
o'clock something like that. Whatever.
So we start walking, put our head,

683
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:12.639
get lamps on, get our gears, and I'm packing my stuff up.

684
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:14.960
But I had a little backpack and
I put the camera in the bag

685
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.079
and I said, nope, Brian, don't be that guy that is the

686
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:20.719
one that has the camera in the
bag. Said, I put it in

687
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.639
my breast pocket. So we start
walking. There's three of us. Now

688
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:29.239
it's a beautiful night, full moon, great stars, the country, and

689
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.000
we're at a point in the lake
where we're at the top of that point

690
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:36.280
of the lake where you can see
out and I can see from where I

691
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.840
was I'm in the north. So
if I'm in the north, the west

692
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:43.039
is to my right, East is
to my left, and the south is

693
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.840
straight ahead. And as we're walking, I see this orange like object.

694
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.639
It looks like an incandescent light.
And I'm thinking, oh, it's helicopter.

695
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:53.400
And we're walking and we all stop
and it's going from west to east

696
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:59.079
and it starts flying right and I
say, what is that? And I

697
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.119
point to it and then it goes. It stops when I say that,

698
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:06.519
and it comes right towards us.
What So my brain is, ooh,

699
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:10.840
this is getting really interesting. At
this point, this thing starts flying to

700
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:15.239
us. It's hovering maybe twenty feet
above us. You can't see it.

701
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:21.760
It's like a i'm gonna say,
like an eye shape, like the shape

702
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.960
of an eyeball, like an almond, and it's just at the distance where

703
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.239
you can see. It's like black, like gun metal black, but you

704
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:32.039
can't really see anything. And we're
paying it's Al, myself and Bill,

705
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:37.480
and Al's praying at this point because
he doesn't want any of us to get

706
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.280
abducted. Oh please don't let him
get up. I don't want the responsibility

707
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.039
at this point. I've had my
camera and a'm videotaping, so I said,

708
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.960
I see it. I see it's
right there. And this video if

709
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:54.559
you want Bronxville Paranormal Society YouTube,
you'll see the orange video. And let's

710
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:59.679
steny with headphones because it's important.
And you hear this little sound that's going

711
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:01.679
on, you you know, like
a motorist sound of like a musical sound.

712
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:07.159
And right, so Al says,
and you hear him in the video

713
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:12.159
time check and I say, nine
to fifteen okay, from where we are

714
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.719
with this UFO to get to the
next location is five minutes, no more

715
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.760
than that. And you hear Bill
after a while he sounds like a zombie.

716
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:22.760
It's just looking at us something like
that. I forgot what it is,

717
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:27.039
oh man. And then the next
thing, it beams that light down

718
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.519
on us. So we shut our
headlamps up, beats the light on us,

719
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.480
and then it's over and we go, wow, okay, let's walk

720
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:36.960
to the next location. So we
walked to the next location. That's the

721
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:38.960
open area I talked about in the
beginning where you get We got to yep.

722
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:44.199
So we're hanging out there. We
set up the chairs, I'm setting

723
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.400
my stuff up. I jerry rigged
Bill's camera so he has a side monitor

724
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:51.199
you can look at it, and
he has an SD card in it.

725
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:55.000
And our psychic said, we're going
to see these like gnomish things that are

726
00:48:55.039 --> 00:49:01.000
there. And I start seeing things
in the woods, from gnomes to taller

727
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.679
beings that are there just out of
the eye. And these gnomes are moving

728
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:07.559
back and forth. I said,
do you see the those things moving back

729
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:12.760
and forth from tree to tree?
And Bill and now looking at this thing,

730
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:15.719
and he goes, oh my god, I can't believe we're videotaping this.

731
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.840
So they started there were videotaping these
things go back and forth, and

732
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.639
then I'm like, oh, this
is incredible. And at one point Al

733
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.400
sees an orb over the on the
water and he says, Bri, you

734
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:29.679
take your laser. They had a
green lazer, we had a red laser.

735
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:31.079
Were I tell you three, we'll
hit it. Let's see what we

736
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:36.960
get a reaction, and we do
that and the thing this disappears and we're

737
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:38.119
like, dude, this is great. We got this video. Let's go

738
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:42.320
look at it again. So we
try to look at it again and we

739
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:44.480
see it. You can see when
you hit record, you see it in

740
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:47.960
the countdown clock, and we're recording
it. Try to use it. Card

741
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:53.239
won't work and I'm like, I'm
like, there's no way. This is

742
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:58.760
an SD card, so it's no
mechanics and it should should have been recording.

743
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.320
So okay, you know what,
Let's give Sydney a call again.

744
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:07.199
Time check and mind you, this
has been like no more than ten twenty

745
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:12.239
minutes nothing more in total from traveling
over to that area. And I go

746
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.880
ten to ten to twelve and he
said what And I'm like, and I

747
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:20.400
look at him, like ten to
twelve, what the hell is that?

748
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:22.559
Oh? We got to give Sydney
a call, So we start giving her.

749
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:27.119
We call her up right now,
she's an hour behind. She's central

750
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:30.440
right Arkansas. And she said,
what the hell's going on with you guys?

751
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:32.760
You said it might be sound better
Cindy. And as we're talking,

752
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:37.599
we hear what sounds like Bill's away
from us in the woods videotaping, okay,

753
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.599
and we hear what sounds like a
family out in the woods at twelve

754
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:44.960
midnight on Halloween. It's like they're
going for a walk in the park.

755
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:49.719
So we hang up on Cindy and
we say, listen, put your lights

756
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:52.559
on because we don't want to freak
these people out. They come around the

757
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.000
woods, so we all put our
lights on. We're three guys with machetes.

758
00:50:55.079 --> 00:51:00.199
Three you guys and machetes. So
we're waiting and we're waiting and waiting.

759
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.519
Nothing comes. So we walk over
there. We look, there's nobody

760
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:06.679
there, not a soul. Whoa. We don't hear them anymore. We

761
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:08.239
get sitting back on the phone.
I was like, look, we heard

762
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:12.239
these people, and like she goes, no, those people aren't there.

763
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.800
They'll be there tomorrow. You're in
a space time rip right now. Oh

764
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.039
my goodness. So we're like,
okay, this is getting weird. Whatever.

765
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:22.039
So okay, and she goes,
yeah, they'll be there tomorrow.

766
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.039
I said, yeah, we saw
these different beings which are the elementals,

767
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:28.559
which she said we would I said, I told you. And after a

768
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.840
few minutes, about twelve o'clock we're
on the phone with maybe five minutes,

769
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:35.079
we decide it's been a long night. Let's pack up. We'll go and

770
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.039
we walk and we're walking out of
this place and not one of us is

771
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:44.719
discussing anything that took place between the
bipedal Krypton, the UFO incident, the

772
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:49.400
missing time and time space rip,
and normally we go to an investigation.

773
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.719
Afterwards we will go to a diner
and talk about these different things, and

774
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:58.000
we didn't. So long story short, everybody went their separate ways and I'm

775
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:00.440
driving back to the city like scanning
this. The next day, I wake

776
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.960
up and I have this awful metallic
tase in my mouth and flam it.

777
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:08.719
I breathe it up and I spit
out and I look, my tongue is

778
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:13.519
blue. It looks like I ate
a smurf. Okay. So I called

779
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:16.159
my buddy and I'm like, oh, you have something weird going on with

780
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:20.840
you or anything, because I told
him about the the metallic tases. It

781
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:22.280
looks like I eat a smurf.
He goes, so what about Bill?

782
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:25.599
He know alsays, I feel like
there's something hard on my lip, got

783
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:29.000
a headache and I had a little
bump in my head. I said,

784
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:31.400
go call Bill and then get back
to me and let's find out. So

785
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:36.119
at that point, my wife comes
in with my two kids from the Sunday

786
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.920
school and they go Daddy and I
have no shirt on what happened to you?

787
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:43.800
I'm like, what are you talking
about? When I'm to those bruises,

788
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:45.760
I have two bruises, one over
here and one on my body.

789
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:49.880
I'm like, I never hid anything. So Al comes back on. I

790
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:51.920
said, dude, I got bruises
on my body. What the hell's going

791
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.840
on? He goes. Bill woke
up screaming like bloody murder in the middle

792
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.880
of the night. He scared the
hell out of his mother. So that

793
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.159
was it for that extual addition,
we made an agreement that if we were

794
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:06.519
going to get redressed, we do
it together. But I have a lot

795
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.039
of people in the investigation business,
and one of my friends, Derek Tyler,

796
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:15.079
he who saw the video of the
UFO. He says, I said,

797
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:15.639
Derek, what do you think it
is? He goes. I said,

798
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:20.760
you're being downloaded. So basically we
were being abducted. I said,

799
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.960
well, think about regressing. He
don't you sleep well? I said,

800
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.000
yeah, I sleep all right.
I know it's hard for me to go

801
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.400
to sleep, but do you have
nightmares? No, don't regress. You'll

802
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.920
never be able to go back.
Whoa wild So I said, okay,

803
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:37.800
cool. Fast forward. That was
October. We go to the summer of

804
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:40.800
that. The next year, we
decided to go back to the area.

805
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:45.280
We're all being drawn to it,
and as we're there, we're drawn to

806
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.079
it, Bills there and whatever,
and we're walking to where we were and

807
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.440
there's no way in hell this thing
can be over there. Move through these

808
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.280
woods from point A to point B
when it went right, and then no

809
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.760
way. So we walked a little
bit further into a swampy area and Bill's

810
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:05.119
videotaping and Al gets a higher perspective
and I see it right after. Bat

811
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.159
now goes, oh my god,
look we find a den. So Bill

812
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:12.000
starts trying to go get closer.
There, he steps in, he almost

813
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.119
we almost lose him in a swamp
the mud, takes a video. He

814
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:19.559
goes back home later that night and
I'm like, this is cool. He's

815
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.480
watching the video. His mom goes, what are those monkeys doing there?

816
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:24.920
So like what? So I see
the video. It's huge. It looks

817
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:30.880
like a pup growling and clearly a
werewolf type of wolfman type of animal creature.

818
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:34.880
And this was what was in the
den, and we were able to

819
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:38.280
blow that up. Oh dude,
if you go to the Bronxville Paranormal Society,

820
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.559
and you look at the Nuclear Lake
investigation, they'll see the images.

821
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:45.880
I was looking at it so many
different times. I've seen it on screens

822
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:49.000
the size of my phone all the
way up to eighty five inch TV sets,

823
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:52.280
and I missed it. It's why
you don't edit your own homework or

824
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:54.840
papers. You're going to miss things. Yeah, my partner was talking about

825
00:54:54.880 --> 00:55:00.320
something. Someone went in there and
they circled from the actual image. Just

826
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:05.760
one that looks like a dog man
peeking over the wall and you'll see the

827
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.400
wall where we were, and another
one that looks like a big like a

828
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:14.079
giant monkey. Okay, it's a
little bit blobby, but it's not as

829
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.440
Bobby as you think. It's clearly
looks like Harry from Harry and the Henderson.

830
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:21.559
Yep. So that's my interaction with
I don't want to think I'm looking

831
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:23.599
at time here and I don't want
to kill you. My goodness, this

832
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:30.920
is dude, this is one of
my and it's such a like this episode

833
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:34.239
shouldn't have happened, really, if
you think about it, because I've never

834
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:36.880
to be honest, Brian, you've
never heard of me. I've never heard

835
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:40.039
of you, and Kenny just happened
to say, Hey, Brian, can

836
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:43.719
you take my place? And I'm
so glad I got to talk to you,

837
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.559
dude. You rock. I do
my own research, but I'm usually

838
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:52.199
in all these groups. But this
the current way of things going now.

839
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:57.679
It's not research as an investigators.
It's a lot of storytellers and they're telling

840
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:01.800
some crazy stories that it's getting exaggerated
and it's actually hurting the investigation of the

841
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:06.800
research totally. But we have other
We call this a plan B. So

842
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:08.639
when we plan on doing A we
can't, we go to Plan B.

843
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:14.039
And a lot of times Plan b's
are very productive. There's another time,

844
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.480
close to New York State, we're
supposed to go shooting one day closed we

845
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:22.320
did Plan B. We found a
whole area. We're in a park in

846
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:24.800
New York State, I'm saying New
York. We found a mother and child

847
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:30.679
footprint of a bigfoot. Yeah,
and I don't have casting material, but

848
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:34.400
I did have a light our phone, so yeah, light our image of

849
00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:37.559
this. Yeah. It's yeah,
So Brian, I could I could literally

850
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:42.360
talk to you for hours and plus
you get the whole Yeah, I'm going

851
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.920
to have you come back one day
and you get the whole Berkshires in northwestern

852
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:51.039
Connecticut area. You get it,
dude. I'm but basically years of my

853
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:53.079
life there. Yeah. And now
it's off to Florida for the s Gumpcape.

854
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:55.559
So when I go, you go. Can you share with the listeners

855
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:59.639
like how they can best keep up
to date with what you're doing. I'll

856
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:02.199
put it in the show now.
Sure. Right now I'm in between my

857
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:06.920
podcast because I'm moving, so I
have that stuff situated. But I'm on

858
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:10.639
all the podcasts under inside the Goblin
Universe. I do one with Ron Murphy

859
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:15.480
or Ron the Crypto Guru Murphy,
and I do my own Nobo Boomy with

860
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:19.000
stands for nobody but me. I'm
on every piece of social media when I'm

861
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:22.400
not being kicked off from being political
on certain things protecting everybody's rights. But

862
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:27.239
you can direct message me if you
have any questions. I will just say,

863
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:30.280
hey, I heard you're on Bigfoot
Society, so I have a reference

864
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:34.719
of where you're coming from. And
I will eventually have Bronxhil Paranormal Society in

865
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:37.440
the New York City UFO project.
You say satisfat dot org, but I

866
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:42.320
will have Brian Boden dot com up
and running soon and that will also have

867
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:46.280
links to get to these other our
websites and just look for our groups BRONXIL

868
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:52.599
Paranormal Side, New York State UFO
project on Facebook. Fantastic, fantastic,

869
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:55.519
oh Man, Brian, thank you
so much for coming on and you're talking

870
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:58.880
to you in the future leads to
day. Thanks again, sir. I

871
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:00.960
just wanted to take a few minut
It's to say thank you to you all

872
00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:07.280
my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out

873
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874
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875
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876
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877
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:30.039
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878
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:32.079
to hear, and I've never asked
for this before, but if you've ever

879
00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:38.519
randomly met another person and you found
out that you both listened to The Big

880
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:42.079
Fort Society, I would love to
hear about that. It just sounds like

881
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.159
a really funny scenario. I have
heard of that happening a few times.

882
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:49.559
But I would love to hear your
story as well, so you can email

883
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.559
me Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. A special thank you to all the

884
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:58.599
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885
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886
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:08.000
Listeners, new shows on Mondays and
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