May 21, 2025

Bigfoot at Hosak's Cave | Salt Fork | Ohio

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Season 1

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Wes shares his chilling encounters with Bigfoot in Ohio. Wes recounts a particular incident at Salt Fork State Park in the early 90s, where he was hit by rocks and eventually saw a figure with black eyes and leathery skin. Wes also recalls a childhood experience in Sugar Creek, Ohio, where he encountered a smaller Bigfoot-like creature. Tune in to hear Wes's detailed accounts and his reflections on these extraordinary experiences.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, You've got the

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privilege of talking to Wes today. Wes is a listener

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that reached out to me about an incident that happened

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out there in the great state of Ohio. He reached

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out early December, so glad to talk to him about

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what's going on. But welcome to the show today, Wes.

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Thanks thanks for having me on.

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Absolutely you know, as we were talking about just a

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few minutes ago, is there anything else that you would

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like to provide about yourself that listeners might need to

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know for context before we get into it about myself.

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I grew up in town not far from Saltfork State Park.

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I had my upbringing. I spent a lot of time outdoors.

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We didn't have cable. It was a spring of probably

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nineteen ninety four or nineteen ninety five, and the snow

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was melting. It was a sunny day, and in towns

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around there, there isn't really anything to do for the

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most part. So I decided to go hop in my car,

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go for a little drive. And I had never seen

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I had been to Saltfork State Park and seen the

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Hosac's Cave in the summertime, which is beautiful, but there's

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no there's a waterfall that goes over it, and I've

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only seen it either dried up or during you know,

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with just a little t So I figured, hey, I'll

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go out there and we'll see if you know, it's

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actually from the parking lot, it's a it's an easy

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short hike and we'll see if I'll see if I

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can see the falls. And so popped the car, headed

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out there, got into the parking lot and was like, oh,

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nobody else here, awesome. Nobody else wants to see this,

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I guess, and got out started walking towards the falls

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and or towards the cave, and I get maybe thirty

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feet in and I get hitting the back with a

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little piece of gravel a stone, and I'm like looking around,

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I'm like, well, there was nobody in the parking lot,

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so there must be somebody up here who was hiking

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from somewhere else and is just messing with me. So

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I go another fifty feet and I get hit hit again,

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and it didn't hurt. It wasn't anything, you know, they

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weren't thrown it hard. And I'm like okay, So I

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kind of crawl up a little bank and look around

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see who's messing with me, and there's there's there's nobody there,

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all right, Well that's weird. And I just keep on

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walking and I get to I'm getting probably halfway there,

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and I go up around a bend and I get

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hit with a rock about the size of a baseball

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in my like near my ankle, and it came from

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close enough that I can tell exactly where it came from.

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So I turned around and was like, hey, that hurt,

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And I'm kind of peering around, and I see a

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pair of eyes and I'm like, hey, that hurt. And

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they just stare at me, and I'm just kind of

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glaring at them. And then I'm like, something's off here,

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What's what is what's going on here? And I could

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tell I was close enough. I was probably five six,

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no more than ten feet away from them, and I

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could see that the whites of their eyes, uh for us,

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was not white, it was it was black. And I

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just kind of throw my brow I'm like, what what thee?

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Then I kind of figured out, you know, I started

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looking at the at the skin, so the face was

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mainly mainly covered. I could see from about the middle

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of the middle of the nose up and it looked

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like they had a like a gilly suit on their head,

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so a bunch of long grass and whatnot. And I'm

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like looking and I'm like and then I look under

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the eyes and there's I mean, I looked long enough

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that I could see kind of like cheek pads like

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you would see on a on a male ringutang, or

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at least that's what I perceived at the time, and

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and I'm like, what the heck? And then I glanced

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you know, I'm like thinking about this, and I'm like, well,

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that's not a person. And I turn and I get

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I get the heck out of there, and I get

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back to the parking lot and there's still no cars.

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Then I take off go back home and tell my

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brother and my friend who's there, and they're like, okay, truth, okay, okay, Wes.

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And nobody believed me, of course, so I you know,

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I just kind of put it at the back of

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my mind. It's like, Okay, well that was weird. And

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like I said, I grew up with no cable, no internet,

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wasn't really a thing quite yet. Then and a couple

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of years down the road, I'm watching a watching a

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show on I think Discovery Channel or something about about

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Bigfoot and and somebody comes on and he's like, yeah,

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so for Kozak's Cave the Ohio grass Man. I'm like what,

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And so I'm like, no, way that I actually did.

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I actual I saw that. I did not know that

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other people had seen that, and and so I'm pretty

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sure I saw the Ohio grass Man. And you know,

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when it's when I thought about it a little bit more,

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it's like, why would why would why would it be

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throwing rocks at me. Right, So I'm walking towards the

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water source right in the springtime as the snow's melting

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and whatnot. And all I could figure was maybe I

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was walking towards the water source and maybe its family

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was there drinking, or maybe it was territorial of the

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water source perhaps, And you know, I was, I was

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close enough to it that if it wanted to hurt me,

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it could have hurt me. You know. When I was

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kind of looking looking at in the eyes, I'm like

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kind of glance at the falls and then glanced back

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at it, and I'm like, oh, and he you know,

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it didn't look angry. It didn't have a you know,

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a furl and brow. It was just like okay, he

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gets it. And it kind of turned and ducked behind

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the the bank. And like I say, I turned and

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got down of there, but didn't feel, you know, like

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it was evil or a monster or not to get

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me or anything like that.

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That's extremely interesting, Wess. And you said this was in

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the Hosacs Cave area.

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Yeah, yeah, Okay.

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Have you ever done any research to see about the

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other incidents that have happened in Salt Fork State?

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Park over the years, not really dig digging too too deeply.

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I know that there's been other other sightings in the

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park nearby, and that makes sense. It's a pretty it's

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a pretty rural area. And I mean there's there's houses

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and whatnot out there, but I mean it's a protected area.

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It's a state park, so there's not a lot of

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there's no industry houses, there are no housing developments. It's

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it's pretty rural. Absolutely makes I mean in the in hindsight,

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it makes makes sense. If I was a creature, that's

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where I probably want to be. Oh.

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Absolutely, it is a it's a large piece of land

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for that part of the country. You know, it's no

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Pacific Northwest, as we kind of alluded to beforehand, but

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for that area, it's a big piece of area for

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state park for sure. A few questions that I wanted

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to ask you about this. When you were hit with

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the rock the size of a baseball, which is is

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pretty I mean that's a good sized rock. Did that

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cause any any damage to your ankle or it.

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Hit me above the ankle like lower lower calf. I

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did have an abrasion, but nothing, you know, if I

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was close enough that if it wanted to hit me

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in the head and eat me. It could have so,

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but yeah, I had some scrapes on my on my

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lower leg, but nothing nothing, you know, I don't even

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think I had a bruise. But you said this was

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a it's been thirty years.

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It's so's thirty years. That's a while to remember back.

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But it feels like a way you tell it that

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it's pretty fresh in your mind.

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Still.

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You said it was about ten feet away from you

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when you first saw it.

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Yeah, yeap. And like I said, it had like a

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grass I mean, I don't want to say a grass

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hat on, but it had like like a Gillie suit

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like it. It looked like it it was trying to

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conceal itself. And it had straw over its head and

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long grass over its head. And like I say, I didn't.

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I didn't realize there was even an Ohio grassman until

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a couple of years later, and I'm like, you got

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to be kidding me.

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Was so let's see, was it sitting down on its

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haunches or was it standing or how how was it

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when you first saw it?

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So? So, it was behind an embankment and there was

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a tree a down tree that was on top of

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the embankment, so it was peering over that, and I

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couldn't see. All I could see was from the basically

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from the bridge of the nose to you know, just

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above the eyes. Everything else was either behind the tree

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or covered in grass.

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Were you able to see a shape to the head

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at all since you could see that top part of

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the head.

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No, not not really. I mean it looked like a

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big pile of you know, a big pile of leaves.

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So but I did not get like a sense of

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like you're thinking of like the cone head type of

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a thing. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't necessarily get that

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that sense, gotcha.

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Were you able to see any ears at all? Nope,

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from what you could see, and you know, it's interesting

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because not seeing all the head, But were you able

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to get any idea of how whyde across the head

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was or how big you know, this head was that

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you were seeing.

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Yeah, I didn't get a sense that it was that

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it was at least the eyes and the head didn't

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seem like it was any bigger than a human's because

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the first second or two I was telling it, hey

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that hurt, it didn't even register that it wasn't a person,

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you know, wasn't a human. So but yeah, it didn't

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seem huge, didn't seem angry, thank goodness.

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Right, No, exactly when you said, hey, that hurt, did it?

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Did it seem to react to when you were yelling

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at it in any way?

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Nope, just just kind of a dead stare. Yeah. Like

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I said, I didn't feel like it was glaring at

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me or anything. It just was like looking at me.

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And once I figured out what I was kind of

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looking at and had a oh crap look on my face,

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then it just kind of turned turned and kducked back behind,

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you know, behind the bank and the log.

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Absolutely, it sounds like or I guess I'll ask you

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in this way the hair on top of the head,

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was it more coming down over the face or was

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it kind of growing in a way that it was

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going back forehead and then up towards the top of

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the bed.

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Yeah. I couldn't see much. So if you think of

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like somebody having a ski mask on, I couldn't. I

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couldn't see pretty much anything except for, like I say,

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the bridge of the nose to about the brow and

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then the rest. I didn't see necessarily hair. I saw

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only only the long grass. Okay, gotcha.

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Could you see any could you see any of the

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skin like a skin.

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Color of the face. Yeah, it was a brown brown,

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like I say, the cheek it looked like it had

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cheek pads, which could be it could be just baggy,

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you know what a baggy weathered skin. The black gilera.

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I think it's called the white of our eyes and

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the eyes the color of our eyes it was for

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it's it was kind of like a golden brown, golden

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golden yellow.

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Interesting, So you could see kind of the color of

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the skin. Could you get a feel as to if

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it was smooth skin or were was it weathered anything

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like that?

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Yeah, it was weathered. It was. It was more of

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a leathery, leathery, kind of a thick look to it.

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Interesting. The four Could you see anything regarding the forehead,

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if it was a larger forehead or maybe even if

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there was like a brow ridge above the eyes? Anything?

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I thought, No, not that I can not that I remember.

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I just remember seeing the eyes and like I say,

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that long, long, dry grass.

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What were the sounds in the forest like that day

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when you were walking up to that area and then

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started to get stones thrown at you.

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Yeah, I you know, I don't remember nothing, nothing outside

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of ordinary for that time of year. So probably probably

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some bird shirpping, but nothing that. Like I said, growing

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up with no cable, spent lots of time in the woods,

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and nothing that popped out at me is Oh that's

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weird except for the obvious.

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Right, Yeah, except for the big Foot ten feet away.

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Kind of a kind of a day changer for sure. Man,

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I'd be thinking about that every day. Were there.

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I have, I have been absolutely.

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I don't blame you. I do not blame you big

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for society who will be right back after these messages.

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Were there any sounds from the Bigfoot itself or any

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communication of any ways.

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Nope. Besides eye contact, No.

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At any point in the interaction, did you start to

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feel different emotionally or physically besides getting hit with a rock.

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No. When I when I think back, I think, I

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mean in my memory, I processed, Okay, I'm walking towards

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the water source. Oh, he must have family, she, it

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must have other ones down there, so it's protecting the

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water source. Kind of popped into my head. I can't.

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I wouldn't say that it projected a you know, a

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psychic image of that or message of that to me,

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like some accounts, if it did, it was subtle enough

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for me to think it was me figuring it out.

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Sure, And I mean the thing is is that you know,

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you only saw the top of its head. You don't

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know what was going on behind that area you couldn't see,

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or maybe there was a little one on its back,

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like you have no idea what you may have potentially

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been walking into.

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Really yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I know where I was

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on the trail. If I'd have gone further, there's like

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a if I'd have gone further up the trail another

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fifteen twenty feet, I would have been able to see

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the falls or see the cave, assuming there were falls,

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And so it makes sense that it would, you know,

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choose a bigger rock when I got around that area,

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if that's what it was, you know, trying to do.

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Absolutely, have you ever been back to that park since

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this happened?

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Not that I not, that I recall. I wouldn't be. No,

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I couldn't have, because if I was, I'd be looking

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at everything. I would be looking at everything differently. So

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I'm pretty sure I have I know, for a fact

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I haven't been out there since then.

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Absolutely. That was kind of a leads into a question

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I was going to ask you next, is how has

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this affected you being in the woods since that day

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in the early nineties.

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Yeah, well, not a whole you know. I just like

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I was just saying, if I was out there again,

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I'd be looking at things differently, looking at things close,

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more closely. And I do that whenever I I mean,

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I live outside of you know, I live in the

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suburbs now, so not many opportunities to get out into nature.

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But when I do, I'm just looking at things and

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it's like, is that a stump? Is that a bush?

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What am I looking at here? So I guess in

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a way it makes me appreciate it more, appreciate nature

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more because I'm looking at things a little bit, a

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little bit differently, or a little bit more, but not

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not creeped out to go through the woods or anything

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like that.

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Sure, asking this because I did not get it in

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my notes. But remind me again, what color of the

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hair was on what you saw?

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I didn't see any hair, it was all it was.

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All all I could see was was grass.

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Oh sure, sure, yeah, right, Okay, Okay, Well, I guess

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I can ask it this way.

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Was it a.

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Grass that looked like it was more dead grass or

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live green?

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M It looked like it was a dead grass, so

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it was. It was light, like a light brown, like

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dry long grass. So I mean, I suppose if it

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had if it had blondish hair, it would have blended in.

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But all I recall seeing was the kind of the

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grass and sticks and stuff.

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Trusting after this happened, how long was it before you

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had any conversations regarding what you saw?

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Oh, within half an hour. I high tailed at home

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and told my brother and my best friend, who were

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were teenagers at the time, and you know, they were like, okay, okay, sure, so,

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which is typical. Typical when you tell a story like that,

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it's like, okay, buddy.

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Unfortunately it is it is par for the course usually

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with these accounts. Was there anyone that believed you when

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you would tell what happened to you that day?

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Only more recently I had I told, I told somebody

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and they were like, oh, when I was in the

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Pacific Northwest, we were we were hiking from somewhere to

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the to the ocean and to the shore, and something

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big was following us. A couple of things that were

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big were following us, and the trail guide said, just

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keep on going. You're you're You're fine, They're fine, Just

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keep on keep on waking walking. Wow.

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After someone experiences something like this where you know, you

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actually had a class a visual sighting, sometimes it will

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affect them in their lives afterwards, or strange things will happen.

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Is that the case with yourself? Has anything out of

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the ordinary happened to you in the years since you

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had this sighting?

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Wow, it's hard to It would be hard to parse

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out nothing that I would that I could go back

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and attribute to that experience.

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What are the main things that you think about regarding

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that day when you think about it? Are there any

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regrets you have? Things that you wish you had done

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differently that day?

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Oh? Well sure, I mean in hindsight, right, it's like

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I wish i'da would have engaged engaged it, you know,

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if if it wasn't, like I said, I didn't get

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to necessarily the vibe that I was in, you know,

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peril or danger. I would like to think that if I,

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if I, if I was to go back there and

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have the same experience today, I would try to make,

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you know, communicate with it, or make contact with it,

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or just kind of get a better you know, get

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a better get a better look at it without without it,

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you know, becoming hopefully becoming aggressive or or anything of

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that sort. But you know, I wouldn't have changed that

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I went out there that day. I'm glad that I did.

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It gives me a wider perspective on the world in general,

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the natural world, and also in how skeptical people can

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be when they don't when they haven't seen it, when

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they haven't seen something, how flippant they can be just

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like mm hmm, okay exactly.

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It's unfortunately a thing where even what I've found from

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just going out a little bit, you have to be

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careful who you tell what happened to because people will

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view you differently afterwards. It's important to try to find

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the right type of person that will be receptive to

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what you experience. I don't know, that's something I'm still

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working through myself, and I haven't I haven't even had

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a visual sighting like yourself. It was just a weird

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thing we heard, you know, down in the Class B section.

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But I was very strange. Nonetheless, thinking back to what

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you had seen and experience that day, did you get

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any feelings or from what you experience that whatever was

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out there ten feet away was something more of a

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huge human type creature or an ape or maybe something

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completely different.

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Yeah, I mean I could, I could. I could see

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it being a you know, a rangutang. Is the is

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the first thing that kind of came to mind when

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I saw kind of the skin under its eyes and

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the you know it to me, I mean. But however,

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on the same note, when I was kind of glaring

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at it, I couldn't you know, I had to stop

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and kind of parse out what was what is off here,

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so I could see it being some something in between.

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I could see it being a full on, you know,

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a rangutang type of a species that said has you

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know that has. I don't know if it would be

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even extra intelligent, because orangutans are pretty smart as as

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it is. Well, there's no there's no fossil records of

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as far as I know, frimemates and whatnot in in

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that area, even from from ancient not ancient times, but

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you know, way back. But so my, you know, it's

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hard to say It's hard to say, but I would

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say definitely not a human pretending or anything like that.

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It seemed more physically, it looked more like it was

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a primate it like. But but the eye contact communication

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seemed like, Okay, we have an understanding or hey, you know,

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I get I get it. No, that probably doesn't help

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at all. It's kind of a.

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I think it does help in a way that I

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think any you know, any talking about about what happened

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definitely helps, and it's in its unique way. But do

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you ever you know, I'm trying to put myself in

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that situation, and I'm almost thinking I wonder if I

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would have a regret that I didn't follow it over

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that hill to see what was over there. I don't

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think I probably would have done it, though, I mean

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to be honest, I probably would have been freaked out

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and just gotten out of there.

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Oh yeah, I mean fighter fight or flight kicks in,

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and you know, it's like scoot, I don't even remember

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half the drive home. It's like, oh, lost in my

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head and trying to process right. But yeah, in hindsight,

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it's like I wish, I wish I if I had

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the same opportunity again, I would I would try to

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to not necessarily walk over that ridge, but maybe walk

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towards it, or kind of keep eye contact and and

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and walk towards it a little bit non threatened. But

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you know, who knows in the moment what anybody does.

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And that's the trick. You know. It's easy for I

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think sometimes when you listen to people giving accounts and

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you can be like, oh, I would have easily done this,

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or you know, but when you get in that situation,

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it's a whole whole different ballgame. That's why I'm learning

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myself as I start to go out. But have you,

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you know, being in that area, have you ever heard

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any other accounts of people seeing similar things? Not I

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guess not so much in the Salt Fork area, but

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maybe in the region around this part of Ohio.

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Oh yeah, yeah, there's let's see north of there. My

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parents are both from Tuscross County, which is which is

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a county or two, I think one county up from

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Salt Fork north and there's there's legends, and there's every

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every so often there's sightings in the newspaper and whatnot.

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But and that's the the foothills of the Appalachian mountains.

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I mean, that's that's where they they are just rolling

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hills and it's still pretty lush, but a lot of

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it is farmland. But the wherever there is you know,

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wooded areas, it's pretty pretty thick. And I've I've had

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I've had another. When I was younger, I had had

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an another experience which with a big foot, I think, so,

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which is probably sounds I mean, it all sounds unbelievable. Right.

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I was in I was probably eleven or twelve, and

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I was out of my my uncle's place, which is

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Sugar Creek, Ohio, and we would spend all summer there

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and I'm there was a wooded area behind his behind

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his house that was on a on a bank, it

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was a hill, and we used to go back there

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and swing on on on vines and stupid stuff. And

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I was, you know, it was had it was summertime,

469
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and I'm kind of going going through, going through the woods,

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and I hear something hitting a tree with a log

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Bank Bank Bank. I'm like, oh, that wasn't very far away.

472
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So I pick up a branch and bank Bank Bank

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and just kind of look around and listen, and it

474
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happened again. Bank Bank bank, and I, you know, I replied,

475
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and I'm looking up the up the hill and this

476
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is probably thirty feet away, but was something that looks

477
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like a small gorilla out from from the side of

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the of a tree. And all I could see was silhouette,

479
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but it did have a like a cone head, and

480
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I'm just staring at it, of course, right, and it

481
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popped back behind the tree and I got the heck

482
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out of there, And of course I told my uncle

483
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and he's like, okay, you know, but that one did

484
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not appear to be you know, I didn't get the idea.

485
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It wasn't huge. It had to have been a juvenile.

486
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But and same deal with like, not until years later

487
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watching some bigfoot show did somebody describe what peekers or

488
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or where they peek out from behind a tree? And

489
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I had never heard any other reports of that, so

490
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I that's the same deal. As soon as I saw that,

491
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it's like, you got to be kidding me. I thought,

492
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I thought that was just just because you know, you

493
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.160
think about these and it's like, was I dreaming? What

494
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.759
did I really see that? And to go to go

495
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.359
you know, years did the future and and then see

496
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:13.519
a show where others are reporting the same thing that

497
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.519
you saw in the same way that you saw it.

498
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It's like, oh, I'm not alone. Awesome, I mean, other

499
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:27.279
others have. That wasn't a dream. Somebody somebody else saw

500
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:32.240
the same thing that I saw. So it's it's weird

501
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:35.160
that there's a there's a video that's out there now

502
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:38.880
that's somebody out out in the woods and they're in

503
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.720
like a pine pine tree kind of area and the

504
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:46.359
end they look, you know, they look off to the

505
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to the right, and about thirty feet away there's a

506
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.079
you know, a figure, a silhouette that pokes out behind

507
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:58.160
the tree, looks like it should be wider than the tree,

508
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.799
and then poke, you know, he walks, takes a step

509
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:05.960
towards and it pops back behind the tree. And that's

510
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.720
exactly what I saw, but smaller.

511
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That's interesting that that county you're referring to. Looking at

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00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.240
it on a map, it looks like it's just maybe

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a bit west of Minerva is to the east of it,

514
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:25.079
which is, you know, you're probably aware, is a definite

515
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:29.480
you know, hotspot area for Bigfoot. So you know, looking

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00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:33.200
at sighting reports for this county, I see, you know,

517
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:37.440
there are multiple people that are having sightings going you know,

518
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.559
from two thousand and eight all the way back to

519
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nineteen eighty three. So I don't think it's it's out

520
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:47.359
of the question at all that that people are having,

521
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:52.920
you know, sightings in this this area just looktually just

522
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:57.960
north of Salt Fork, a few towns north probably, but.

523
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Yeah, probably probably an half an hour half an hour north.

524
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:10.640
Extremely interesting, extremely interesting, Wes, I just want to say

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thank you for taking some time out of your day

526
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:18.960
to share what you experienced those two times growing up

527
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:23.240
and is fascinating. Always interesting when you hear more things

528
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:27.559
coming out of Salt Fork. So much activity over the years, listeners,

529
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:29.960
if you've had something happen in that area as well,

530
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:33.279
please feel free to reach out. You can contact me

531
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:35.359
at Big for Society at gmail dot com. Is the

532
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:38.319
best way. I try to read every comment, but it's

533
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.079
getting to the point where there's a lot of them,

534
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.880
so please email me directly. But Wes, I just want

535
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to say thank you for coming on the show and

536
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:47.039
sharing what you experienced that day.

537
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:51.799
My pleasure. It's nice to have somebody to talk to

538
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:55.640
you about it and keep doing what you're doing. I

539
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:57.480
enjoy listening thank you.

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I just wanted to take a few minutes to say

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thank you to you all my listeners for listening to

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Here's the list. Number one encounters from Franklin County, Texas.

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Number two encounters from the entire state of Iowa. Number

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three encounters from Oakridge, Oregon or the surrounding area. Number four,

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any individuals that know about Bigfoot being flown off after

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the Mount Saint Helens eruption. Number five. Individuals that have

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had a big foot encounter well in the military. Number six.

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Those that have had a Bigfoot encounter in the southern

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New Hampshire or north central Massachusetts area, including Franklin County, Massachusetts.

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Number seven individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter in

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a Bible camp or boy Scout camp setting. Number eight

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individuals that have had bigfoot try to enter their house

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forcibly while they were living inside. Number nine individuals that

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have actively have a bigfoot living on their property. And lastly,

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any sightings that are in the Watchitaw National Forest Area

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of Oklahoma or Arkansas. A special thank you to all

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