Aug. 11, 2026

Bigfoot Encounters Emerge Across Tennessee, Kentucky & British Columbia

Bigfoot Encounters Emerge Across Tennessee, Kentucky & British Columbia
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Season 1

A hunter's quiet evening near Tennessee's Natchez Trace Parkway turns unforgettable after an impossible roar erupts across the hills moments after a pack of coyotes falls silent.


Jeremy shares the encounter that changed the way he looks at the woods forever, along with the mystery of a wounded deer that vanished without explanation, strange voices heard deep in the Tennessee backcountry, and stories passed down by generations of hunters.


You'll also hear firsthand encounters from Kentucky, Wisconsin, British Columbia, and another corner of Tennessee featuring chest-shaking vocalizations, massive footprints, Indigenous Sasquatch traditions, mysterious lights, and unexplained activity witnessed by people who never expected to become part of the Bigfoot conversation.


Every story adds another piece to one of the greatest mysteries still hiding in the forests of North America.


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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers

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as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates

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about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge

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link in the show notes. Thank you all right, Big

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for Society, You've got the privilege of talking to Jeremy today.

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Jeremy's individual with an interesting thing that happened to him

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down in Tennessee a few things about Jeremy's Christian music educator,

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outdoorsman and a member of the Army National Guards. So

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thank you for your service, sir, and thank you for

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coming onto the show. Jeremy and I also know that you.

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I think you got introduced to the show. Uh you

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heard me over on Blurry Creatures, which is a great podcast, right.

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Yeah, I heard you talking about the Ohio flap on

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on Blurry Creatures. You know, it's like, I need this

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listen to this guy so I can hear you know,

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more straight forward big Bigfoot stories.

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So absolutely, I'm glad you were able to come and

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check that out. We had actually a few people come

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over from that that. I mean, those guys, Nate and

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Luke are great guys. If you're listening to this and

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you want to have and how would you, I would say,

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if you want to know about the weirdness of the

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world from a biblical perspective, that's pretty amazing. Check out

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that podcast. If you're not already, most of my listeners

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are probably listening though.

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Yeah, they're They're great.

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They're very they are great. They're great. Jermy, is there

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anything else that you would want the listeners to know

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about you before we get started?

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No, just that you know, covered it in bio and

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then I have just a quick you know, I have

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a seven year old daughter that you know, she wants

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to she wants to tell Bigfoot about Jesus so we're

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having those conversations all the time. So when I get

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presents for Father's Day and everything, it's usually bigfoot things.

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And she has lots of questions, so this will be

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fun for her to listen to as well.

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Hey, that's amazing, I mean, why not. Really? It reminds

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me of there's a series of interviews on I think

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it's Bigfoot World Radio with Duke on YouTube, okay, and

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it's a store. It's this an interview back and forth

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with the guy who have this these interactions with a

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big foot named glag And from what I remember, it's

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been a while since I've heard it, but there was

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there's a whole section of it where he is actually

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like reading the Bible to glide and there's a lot

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of like really interesting things going on there. So I

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can't remember if it's appropriate for little kids, so check

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it out first yourself, right, but there might be something

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actually already out there where you know. That's the whole thing.

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It's like, what's bigfoot? Can bigfoot get saved? Is if

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it's just an animal, you know, or or if it's

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like it's part human. I mean, that's that's a whole

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wild conversation and I could see that. I'm sure that

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conversation has been brought up on Blurred creatures. I haven't

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listened to every episode. I'm sure they've they've broached that subject,

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but so so Jeremy. You are down there in the

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great state of Tennessee.

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Correct, that's right.

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Oh my goodness, I will tell you what that state is.

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Weird as I'll get out. I was down there in April.

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I had some weird stuff happened. Dude. I was like,

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I was in this one state park. We were surrounded

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by orbs. The orbs were coming towards us. I was like,

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those have got to be fireflies. No fireflies, there were orbs.

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That was my first time. And then the whole like

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hearing voices at another state park we were hanging out

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and around. That was I've never that was weird as

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I'll get out.

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hang around. I remember you talking about in one of

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the shows hearing somebody say come here.

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in the woods during expedition. I was by myself and

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I heard someone something, someone say come here from around

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the corner. And then in my cabin when I was

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almost asleep, someone or something say gotcha and I was like,

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oh my.

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Goodness, Yeah, I'm not.

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Playing No, no, absolutely not. It's a really active area.

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But but Jeremy, you know, we're saying you're from Tennessee,

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and so that's the groundwork that yeah, if you don't know,

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Tennessee is weird. It's not spacific Northwest, but it is

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full of weirdness that happens there. So so are you

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an individual journey where you Bigfoot's been a part of

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your entire life or did this thing we're about to

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launch and to get you involved with the Bigfoot talking.

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So I've always been interested in, you know, all things paranormal.

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I think in college was when the show ghost Unners

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came out, so I was a big watcher of ghost

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Hunters and I liked there we'll say scientific approach, like

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whether that was for TV or not, you know. And

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I remember in elementary school picking up any books I

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could on mysterious UFOs, bigfoot, ghosts and things like that.

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So it's always been an interest, but always just kind

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of watch the TV shows, hear the stories, be entertained,

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be open minded and think, oh, is this something that

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could be out there. It's like, I can't defenditive say

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yes or no, but you know, always open to the possibility,

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you know. But in taking the media around Bigfoot and

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things like that, when I had this experience, was that

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kind of was a ay oh, and you talk about

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Tennessee being a weird state. Didn't really realize it until

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kind of this happened. I kind of was deep diving

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into things and going, oh, Tennessee is weird. Between the

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Smoky Mountains, Cumberland Plateau, all the caves, land between the lakes,

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I don't know. You turn me Merkel over at the Confessions.

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He's done a lot of stuff at about LBL and

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I used to I remember because I'm a hunter. I

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remember the potential when I was young of going and

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doing a draw hunt, a hunt and land between the lakes.

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And I listened to some of that stuff and I go, man,

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I'm I'm kind of glad I didn't, you know, take

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up those opportunities to go hunt and bal because there's

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some stuff going on up there. So all that to say,

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it's been present, but it's not something I've just always

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been like, oh, got to get more Bigfoot. It's just

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been it's almost been more of an entertainment. It's been like,

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you know, finding Bigfoot. I love. I actually really like

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the show Expedition Bigfoot, both for entertainment value and for

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the stuff they catch. So yeah, it's it's been present,

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but until this actual experience made me start thinking about

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things earlier in life that happened and say, oh, I

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think I have a different perspective.

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On those now very very interesting ghost hunters. That's not

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the Zach Begins one, right, I'm not super ghosty.

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So so there was I think there was Ghost Adventures,

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which that one, that one I didn't like as much,

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and you know, I watched it being a Christian. Ghost

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Hunters was just more of a and empirical we're looking

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for evidence things. I think Zach is Ghost Adventures. They're

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more calling out entities and saying things, and I didn't

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like that being audible in my house. Yeah, yeah, so

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I tried that a little bit, like when my wife

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and I before we had our daughter, I got back

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into Ghost Adventures and I was like, maybe a week

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or two of watching that, I was like, I I'm

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not feeling right about having an audible voice calling out

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entities inside my home, and my wife wasn't big on

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that either, so it was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

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turn that one off. And I really don't watch We

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really don't watch any like ghost stuff anymore. I'm more

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sticking to cryptids, you know. As far as what I'm watching,

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a Skinwalker ranch, that's that's pretty intriguing. Yeah, And so

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those kind of more like looking for evidence rather than

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seeking to call out spiritual action even if it is

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you know, even if there is some TV magic in there,

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and you know, ah, there's a real there is a

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real spiritual realm, right, and that with the things you

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call out, they they do have effects, even if someone

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might be doing it not necessarily believing something's going to

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happen for entertainment value. Uh, those words have meaning. And yeah,

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so I trying to stay away from those kind of things.

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Yeah, I think that's smart. So as man as a

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Christian in Tennessee, then there's some actual areas that are

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really charged up and known for for weird paranormal things.

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Do you actually, man, I'm thinking of one in particular,

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like the bell Witch Cave. Oh yeah, what what is that?

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Something where you like, maybe maybe I'll check that out

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or is it something where you like, I don't think

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I'll actually check that out.

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getting and in the weeds about you know a little

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other stuff, but this is interesting. So my grandmother she

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got super obsessed with the bel witch and did a

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lot of research on that. And I would say in

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my family, there's been you know, being a Christian, but

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then the spiritual side of things, there's been some interesting

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like almost like psychic nature of stuff where you know,

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I'll have family members that will say, well, a former

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relative came to me in a dream and told me

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this thing that came true. And originally I was just like, okay, cool,

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that's kind of wild. And then now as I've grown

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in my Christian walking and study and studying the spiritual

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nature of things as well, I'm like, oh, when we

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look at you know, in the Bible, when Saul called

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gets the witch of Indoor to call up, I'm like, oh,

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this is something we should do. So I'd like to

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tell the family member, hey, you know, you see your

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great grandmother, but I don't think that's your great grandmother.

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does not validate that that's who you think it is.

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So I think we need to like hold up. So

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going back to the bell Wich, I think a lot

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of that obsession with the occult in my grandmother kind

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of had some you know, negative maybe negative spiritual effects

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regarding that. And then I had you know, other family

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that I have one family member that would say she

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is haunted because it doesn't matter where she moves. There's

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something there, so you know that. So for me, for

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Belwich and stuff like that, I'm like, I I am

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interested to learn about it as someone studying that thing,

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but I'm not going to go there because again, the

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spiritual stuff is real, and I don't want to go

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there and just be attached to something.

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That you know, right exactly.

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It was.

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Man, when I was down Tennessee, I think, yeah, I

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realized that I was actually not that far away from it,

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and I had to have a little I had to

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think it through. I was like, oh, I don't think

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I want to even the stuff I've seen in like

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Small Town Monsters documentary, I'm like, I don't want to

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want to play those games, like you know, and they're

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not games, right. So if you if you do decide

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to go there. That's that's on you and that's cool,

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but yeah, not going to do that. So you know

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that was that was a bit of a rapper trail.

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I think it's an important conversation, but so I'm interested

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to hear then you know what you your experience was

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that you had in Tennessee and how that played out.

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Okay, cool? Yeah, And it's interesting because you know, when

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I originally thought about this, and I've been listening to podcasts.

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I'm a music teacher, so my my our time is

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podcast it's not music because sometimes you got to step

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away from music when it's your life. And so you know,

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I was like, this is not that big of a deal,

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and I don't you know, I tell people and you know,

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people roll their eyes and stuff, and it's not like

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I feel persecuted or anything. It's just that it's Originally

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to me, it was a small instance. But then when

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I kind of put everything together, it's like, well, I'll

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just email fear Mayer and letting him decide if it's

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kind of worth telling. So I'm glad to be here.

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So we'll start back in twenty seventeen. I had a

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brother in law. You purchase a form and we'll just

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not give specifics. We'll just say it is around the

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Tennessee section of the Natchez Trace Parkway. So Natchez Trace

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Parkway is like a scenic roadway that goes from Nashville

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all the way to Natchez, Mississippi. So it's one of

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those two lane you know, almost I believe the land

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immediately surrounding the parkway is federal land, so it you know,

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it's through a large part of Tennessee. And we'll say,

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you know, so I'm in middle Tennessee around the Natchez

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Trace Parkway. So we would go up there and just

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hang out. You know, we bought it for hunting, so

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in the summertime, we just go have a campfire, hang out,

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ride ATVs, you know, prepare for the hunting season. You know.

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Now the farm is a lot of food plots, a

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lot of land management to support a dear herd. But

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that's what we would do. So this was a summer

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probably actually, you know, we bought form in twenty seventeen,

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So this summer twenty eighteen, probably me and my younger

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brother in law, we're just up there hanging out for

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the weekend, had a campfire, outside the cabin and the

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cabin just to describe it's it's by no means luxury,

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but it's not, know, it's not a hostile on the

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Appalation trail like it's you know, we've got power, we

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can kirk with the nice fireplace. You know, it's comfortable,

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but we are out there. They had to give perspective.

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They eventually had to run power up to the farm

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because it was run on a generator. So that's kind

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of how far out there we were. While setting outside,

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you could hear the little bit of traffic that's on

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the Natchez Trace, so people you know, driving scenically. So

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we're hanging out late into the ninth around the campfire,

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just smoking a cigar, enjoying a little bourbon like not

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you know, not partying, but just enjoying nature. So me

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and my younger brother in law sit out there talking

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and the coyotes just start ripping and whaling, and it's

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just you could tell it's a big pack. They were

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pretty close, I would say less than a mile, and

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I mean just ye been howling everything that coyotes do.

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This pack was doing it. And so if I'm sitting

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I guess facing east and they're kind of you know,

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I guess to the they're to the southeast of us,

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and we can see them. We can kind of tell

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that they're moving around. And this lasts a long time,

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so it's a good few minutes of coyotes just going

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crazy and we're like, yeah, this is cool. And my

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brother in law not being you know, out in the

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wild and hunting and stuff all his life, you know,

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he's just kind of looks to me for that experience

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and and to you know, hear things, verify things that

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we're hearing. So we're listening to coyotes. We're like, that's cool,

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and you know, they're coyotes. For me, that's like nothing

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to be worried about. They they make a lot of noise,

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they move through. If they see you, probably they're going

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the other direction. You know, they're they're not interested in

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messing with humans other than you know, to eat food

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they leave behind and things like that. So not something

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we were worried about. Still just sitting around the can't

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fire and joy. So the coyotes finally stop and we

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get a break of about thirty seconds of you know,

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natural quietness that would occur in nature, right just it's

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just quiet, not I wouldn't say like deadly silent, like

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all sound dropped out, the environment changed. It was just

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coyote stopped. That was all it was. And so we

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have a thirty second break or show in there, and

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then there's another sound that starts and we're just kind

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of sitting talking. So it kind of ramps up and

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we're in our minds we still have coyotes, and then

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the sound ramps up even more and it's kind of

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it's more of a roar or I describe it as

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a bella like it's just kind of a and it

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just really ramps up. And my brother in law kind

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of looks at me and he goes coyotes and I

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was like, oh yeah. And then the sound continues and

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it and it ramps up into what I describe as

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a mix between somebody throwing up and just a man

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screaming bloody murder. Looked like in chest voice, like you know.

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But it lasted for ten to fifteen seconds, just this

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ramped up, just crazy roar, and it was farther than

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the coyotes, Like you could tell that this thing had

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to be so loud because perspective, it seemed like it

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was beyond the Natchez Trace Parkway. It seemed like it

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was farther now, and the fact that it lasted so long,

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it just ramped up and became this yell, but it

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was just you could tell it was so far away

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and it had to have been so loud, and then

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it stops and then everything is quiet. My brother in

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law look at each other and he goes, let's go inside,

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and I said, a good idea. And then that was that.

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And just to think of it, I went on the

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internet search and I was like, I, you know, I've

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been in the woods all my life, heard wildcats, turkeys,

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we were making funny noises. Uh you know, different different

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birds doing different things. And I'm just on a quest

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to find something that could have made this sound naturally.

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I know there's a dirt track around the area. We

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were like a racing track, and so I've heard that

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on a Saturday night and this was in the wrong

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direction and nothing like the dirt track, and uh yeah.

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So I went on this crazy search to find something

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that sounded like it the closest I could find. Like

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I was trying to find all variations of a bobcat

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call because I know there's we've seen bobcats. So I

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was looking at all variations of Bobcat screams. I couldn't

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find anything like that. The only thing that could pop

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like that came close but still wasn't it was I

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looked at Ferrell Hoggs, like, but the area is not

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known for having and like, while they can make a

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sound for a second that kind of sounds like that,

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or found no examples of a long bellow like that

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that that could be so loud and for so long,

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it could be heard from so far away. So yeah,

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in not finding anything, and then later in all just

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kind of internet searches, you know, you get the algorithm

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going for what you're searching for, come across people that

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are doing bigfoot expeditions in the area, and I'm like, okay,

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this is not just me saying, oh, that could have

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been a bigfoot. It's like, oh, people are saying that

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their experiences in the area, and that kind of validated

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the thought for me that it's like I'm running out

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of natural explanations for what the sound could be. My

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younger brother in law, he's kind of, you know, at first,

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he was like, I don't know what we heard, and

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then I think now he's kind of moved into a place.

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It wasn't a big thing, Like you know, he's just

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can't say what it was, but he's just like, that's

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that's not what it was. Now. I still the ounce

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twenty eighteen. I go hunt out there almost every year.

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I'm not afraid to go out in the woods, and

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I've never seen anything weird, heard anything weird since. But

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we want to talk about this experience a little bit

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before I go into kind of how that's affected everything else,

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Like if you had any questions, Yeah, yeah, that's not

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about experience.

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That's wild. So what you heard?

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Did it?

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I'm sure you've you've thought of this too. Could it

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have been made by a human at all? Or it

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was just way way past?

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That does sound like I said, sounded like a man screaming,

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like if there was a dude standing next to me

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and he was like enraged and just bearing down for

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a bit. Yes, that that part sounded human, But the

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duration and the volume for the distance, there's there's no way. Yeah,

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there's no way that could have been a person.

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Yeah that makes sense. So were you finding like reports

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on BFRO or you're I'm curious what kind of I

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guess where you were finding things on the internet.

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Yeah, I had just just YouTube and I haven't gone

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and looked at you know now that in preparing, like

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thinking about coming on here, I'm like, man, I've never

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really gone on a b afro. I've not yet looked

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at your maps. Like I've been to the website, but

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I've not just had the time to look at the

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maps yet. But I'm like, I need to go do

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that and see along the Nachos Trace Parkway, like what's there.

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Because it's validating to be like, oh, I'm not just

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a random person that people are like, oh, Bigfoot's in

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the Pacific north Northwest, and I'm saying I heard one

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in Tennessee. It's like the more people start thinking are

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now open to the idea of Bigfoot or big Foot

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like creatures existing, the more people are seeing them over

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the way.

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And just to just to talk about what Jeremy's referring to,

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because I don't think I talk about enough on the show.

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If you go to the website for the podcast big

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for Society podcast dot com and then you cook on

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siting map, I have put a lot of I'm still

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working on it, but there's a lot of It's probably

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over a thousand pins. And these are just people that

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I've talked to for the show. So you can go

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to this map and it's just a Google map that

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I fill in as I'm editing episodes, and you can

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look for your area or any area, and I've got

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you know, a ton in the US. But really, I

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think every every country or every continent. I don't know,

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just I don't think Greenland counts. That's it's not a continent,

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you know. But yeah, it's all over the all over

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the world, So check that out if you haven't. But

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Wild Wild Stuff. Has anyone else had anything weird happen

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on that property besides what you and your brother in

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law experience that day.

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Nobody's told me anything, so yeah, I've not heard anything.

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I usually asked, you know, the owner. We've been writing together,

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and I said, hey, Black, have you seen anything weird?

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And He's like, it's weird, man, because we've got all

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these cameras out there and we've we've never caught anything

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on game cameras or anything. Which with watching all the

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shows and listening to the podcasts and things like that,

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I'm thinking, well, actually you're probably not going to catch

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them on those.

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Yeah, exactly.

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The more you put cameras up, it seems like the

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further away they.

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Go, Yeah, have you did you talk to the owner

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about like, hey, have you heard anything like this sound

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that we heard or anything like that?

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Yeah? Yeah, and there's there's nothing. It was just me

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and my younger brother in law that that out there,

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just experience that and we tell the story and he's,

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you know, he's I don't it was something else, and

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I'm like, dude, that was a big fit.

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Yeahs absolutely so, so how Yeah, I'm definitely curious. How

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did this affect everything else after you had test?

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So yeah, we kind of have to go back in

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time because this this kind of reshops a few things.

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And the reason it made me go even further back

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was because of this next instances. So you know, it's

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a quick story of back in twenty twelve, I was

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hunting in a different area, still Middle Tennessee. This is

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almost we'll say Tennessee bordering Alabama, like very southern Middle

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Tennessee in hunting land that my stepdad has hunted on

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since the seventies. Like it's it's uh, it's old woods,

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it's tough land like Rocky. Now this place you've got

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to take a four wheeld. You got to take an

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ATV to get too. We have we haul, we have

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a generator. It is it is a legit. It's a

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hunting cabin.

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We are.

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We are away from everything. You can't hear a car.

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Sometimes you hear an eighteen wheeler. Do the jake break,

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do an engine break? Like maybe you'll hear that echo

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through the mountains. Another interesting thing about this there is

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a lot of deep we call them sinkholes, but really

458
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.720
their caves. Right, there's a lot of just cave entrances

459
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.519
going straight down. If you drop a rock in them,

460
00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:38.480
you it takes a minute for the rock to hit

461
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:42.599
the bottom and you hear a nice as you hear

462
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:44.759
the rock hitting the air going down and echoing through

463
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.880
the cave area. So lots of deep caves in this area.

464
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:51.799
So you know, only we only go like we're walking

465
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:53.880
in the woods that you know the wee hours of

466
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:57.119
the morning before it's daylight. Definitely walking the known trails

467
00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:00.279
because if you're just walking through the woods unknowingly, you

468
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:05.720
legit could just walk into a hole. There's multiple, multiple

469
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:08.640
of those that we know of in the area, so

470
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:12.759
hunting season, I remember we had a white Christmas set

471
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.000
snowed that Christmas, so this would have been after Christmas

472
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:19.119
leading in January, still snow on the ground, evening hunt.

473
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:23.319
I hunt this bluff line and I had taken a

474
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.400
shot at an eight point buck. And it had been

475
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:29.720
a horrible hunting year for me. I had rifle issues

476
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.079
and was using different rifles, and I had wounded deer

477
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:35.079
that year. I feel terrible about it because we always

478
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.839
want to make a humane when we harvest a deer.

479
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:39.880
We want to you know, have it be as humane

480
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:43.319
as possible and not have anything running around wounded. But

481
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.400
I had had wounded a few that year, so it

482
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.720
was just a frustrating year. But I had finally got

483
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:56.599
the rifle squared away and took a shot and hit

484
00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:59.079
a deer, this eight point buck, and I mean it

485
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:01.880
hit the ground. I was like, yes, finally I've got

486
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.039
the monkey off my back, so to speak, and we're

487
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:06.599
good to go. So I'll give it a few moments

488
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.319
to just make sure, because if you go and try

489
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.119
to start tracking one early, you can actually give it

490
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.400
the adrenaline it needs to push and run. Okay, So

491
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:17.480
because it was so cold. Went back to the cabin.

492
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.079
We talked about it. It's like, hey, let's not track

493
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:22.920
them at night. Let's let's wait till the morning. We'll

494
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.400
get the whole crew out there and we'll look at

495
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:29.240
forward in the daylight. It'll it'll keep in the area.

496
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.000
Was We weren't worried about it, you know, coyotes or

497
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:36.240
anything like that at that time. So next morning we

498
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:41.119
go and we start searching, and we can see where

499
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.240
it hit the ground and then led a lot and

500
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:48.119
should have died there. But then we've started tracking it

501
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.279
where it apparently got up and started moving. So it

502
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.759
was a good track, easy tracking. Snow, we got to

503
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.839
this one hollow full of briers and things, and suddenly

504
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:05.640
all deer tracks, blood, everything just stop, just stopped. Couldn't

505
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:08.640
find the deer. We did a big circle looking through

506
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:10.640
the briers and maybe he's laid down in one of

507
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:13.880
these tree tops, was cut down, or maybe in this

508
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.680
brier patch, but just all evidence of the deer ceased.

509
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:20.839
And so we had hinted that morning prior to that,

510
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.119
I should say this, so we had hunted a short

511
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.559
time prior to that. We had decided we're going to

512
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.480
stop hunting early to go track this year. My stepdad

513
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.039
told me, he's like, oh, yeah, we're going to find

514
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.799
that deer. I heard it kind of just moving around

515
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:38.079
down in the bottom of the hollow, and so we're like, okay, cool,

516
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.759
that's pretty confident. So when we got down there and

517
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.200
it just ended and there was no evidence of it

518
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:48.119
thrashing or anything like that. It was just odd and

519
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.640
it was another bummer, and you know, we left it

520
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:53.000
b and you know, my Stepdad's like, man, I thought

521
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.640
I heard something down there. So later after I had

522
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.640
the experience around the Nature's Trace Parkway with the how

523
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.480
bellow what we want to call it, telling my stepdad

524
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:09.480
about that, and he goes, so, you remember when you

525
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:13.079
shot that deer and I told you I heard something

526
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:15.079
in the halliday that morning and that we were probably

527
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:19.839
gonna find it. I said, yeah. He goes, well, it

528
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.039
kind of scared me and I didn't want to say

529
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.640
too much, but what I heard was something thrashing around

530
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.759
and it sounded like a man down there yelling and

531
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:36.400
throwing up, And I was like, are you kidding me?

532
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.079
He was like yeah, he said, I know, And he

533
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:41.839
still says this. He says, I know there are bigfoots

534
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.480
that aren't hunting mountain, he said, but they and I

535
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:46.799
have an agreement, and I leave them alone and they

536
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:50.319
leave me alone. And so I still haven't like drawn

537
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:52.759
him out too much about what does that mean? Are

538
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.480
you just like, are you just spouting off things I do.

539
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.759
I do without a doubt think that that's because he

540
00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:03.799
was when he said he heard something down there, he

541
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.799
was not really coming forth with a lot of stuff.

542
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:09.160
But then when he starts explaining, he was like, yeah,

543
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.039
he said, I wanted to go I wanted to go

544
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.640
home when he heard that that morning, and he kind

545
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:20.759
of logiced it that it was that deer dying, and

546
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.079
I kind of pictured, like, you know, deer when they

547
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.039
you know, a buck's grunt can sound different, a doze,

548
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:32.160
you know, bleat whatever can sound different if they're under distress,

549
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:36.119
and they make different sounds. So I haven't gone and like,

550
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:39.119
you know, tried to see what a deer sounds like

551
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.920
when it's in death. But now my stepdad would say, hey,

552
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:47.799
I think bigfoot took your deer. But when we were

553
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.119
down there looking at that time, you know snow, we

554
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.640
were looking for blood in the white snow. We weren't

555
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.319
looking for any other tracks. There were thick briers that

556
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:58.240
we couldn't even get on our hands and knees and

557
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:02.039
crawl through. But you know, around that, as much as

558
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:04.960
we put things down and think like the blood just

559
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.079
stopped and it should have been enough for the deer

560
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:12.039
to pass away, and we have no deer. We have

561
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:18.079
my stepdad hearing the sounds that he described as a man,

562
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:22.960
a man down in the hollow, yelling and throwing up.

563
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.400
And you know when I hear like some of the

564
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.000
Sierra sounds and things like that, like it's there's just

565
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:34.720
a guttural, you know, from the diaphragm, kind of a

566
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:40.079
sound and yell there. So that it's interesting to try

567
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.480
to go back to that experience and say was there

568
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.920
anything else around that besides now my stepdad telling me

569
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:49.680
after twenty eighteen saying, hey, back in twenty twelve, remember

570
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.880
when this happened, I heard a sound that you're described.

571
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:59.559
This would be probably an hour two hours away from

572
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:00.920
the Shays trace spot.

573
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:05.480
Okay, wow, dude, that that's what You've got to have

574
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:10.359
that conversation with him about what is your understanding between

575
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:14.759
you and like what happened to make that understanding between

576
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:22.240
you and Bigfoot, Like that sounds very interesting also, And

577
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:29.880
I'm sure when I hear stuff like the deer disappearing,

578
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:35.079
the tracks disappearing, man, I start thinking of like missing

579
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.279
have you have you watched?

580
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:43.839
Yeah, I have not gotten into that yet. I've listened

581
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:48.640
to a few interview interviews with politis, but I I

582
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:51.960
have not gotten into that. Also with you know, it's

583
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.720
a little okay, like how much truth do you want

584
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:59.279
to hear a little bit because like I have I have,

585
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:01.400
you know, I have a seven year old daughter, I've

586
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:06.559
got another daughter on the way, and it's, uh, you know,

587
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.480
it's kind of that balance and sometimes I overthink things

588
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:14.079
a lot. So I'm like, do I want to you know,

589
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.039
there's the okay, we need to know the truth, but

590
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:20.199
there's also like I want to give that spark that

591
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.760
might make me, you know, fearful, or do I just

592
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:27.159
want to kind of keep living my life trusting in God,

593
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:32.920
you know, trusting in Christ and really resting in that,

594
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:37.159
or give myself something else to be worried about in

595
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:41.679
raising a child in this world. So it's a different topic,

596
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:42.280
but so.

597
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:47.079
I totally get it. It is. It's an interesting documentaries

598
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:51.880
and specifically, I mean I will so in one of

599
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.079
them it's called out and this is also called out

600
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:57.119
in another interview. I had a gentleman who had talked

601
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:02.559
to a moof on investigator sources. We're talking about how

602
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:13.000
hunters had seen elk carried off by floating rods, which

603
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.960
I mean, that's not bigfoot, but yeah, it can be connected, right,

604
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:22.199
it's weird, right yeah. And then I mean I've had

605
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.000
I could say three to four people where I just

606
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:30.440
talked to actually a lady yesterday where she was on

607
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:33.119
top of the mountain and then looked over the mountain

608
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:39.199
and saw a big foot pretty much running down the

609
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:44.360
mountain in front of her and her dogs with a deer,

610
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.159
a full sized deer over its shoulder, and it had

611
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.079
like eight points on it. And it just you hear that.

612
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.480
I've heard that multiple times. You hear that sort of things.

613
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.400
You're like, you know, these things has so much power,

614
00:35:56.519 --> 00:36:00.440
so they can easily just be a bam put it

615
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.840
over the back. It doesn't really explain the lack of

616
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:06.320
blood though you think there'd still be blood, but that

617
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:07.519
could be something else.

618
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.559
I don't know. That's where I entertained because I'm I'm

619
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:12.519
open minded to what I guess the b f R

620
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:16.360
people call the WU I'm open to it just because

621
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:19.360
I'm not you know, I'm not fully invested in it's

622
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:23.599
a creature or it's spiritual, like every everything spiritual totally.

623
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:29.519
I'm a you know, almost s Timothy Alberino's train of like, yep,

624
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:33.559
we don't have a separation of what's spiritual and what's physical,

625
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:36.760
like we're all part of the same existence. Like, so

626
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.559
sometimes spiritual can be excused to say something is not real, right,

627
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.480
But that's where I entertain, Like, Okay, the homeboy step

628
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:48.960
through a portal and you know, go somewhere else like that.

629
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:51.519
The biggest thing I always come up with is, you know,

630
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.480
the Native American legends that say, you know, Sasquatch has

631
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:57.039
a foot in the spirit world and a foot in

632
00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:01.400
the physical world. You know, if if there are texts

633
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:06.639
that old basically saying the same thing people are observing now,

634
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:11.440
like you know, correlation does an equal causation and all

635
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:15.800
that good stuff. But you know, it's if multiple, multiple

636
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.519
things across centuries are saying the same thing, maybe we

637
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.440
should give some some credence to what people are saying

638
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:26.719
so that's yeah, so that's why I'm like, you know,

639
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:30.559
maybe okay, maybe there is a cave entrance there and

640
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:35.440
you just pop down in there. Maybe. Uh, you know,

641
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:38.159
there's all sorts of explanation, but yeah, just the all

642
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:42.079
like all of a sudden, all evidence of wounded deer gone,

643
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:44.440
that's a strange part.

644
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.239
Yeah, it's it's that kind of thing that really makes

645
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.880
you think. And the longer I do this show, you

646
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:54.280
know you hear. I've talked to multiple people that have

647
00:37:54.480 --> 00:38:01.440
seen Bigfoot turn into a kind of black, wispy cloud,

648
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:04.800
kind of like the smoke Monster from Lost back in

649
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:09.719
the day. I've had that story from Outhood and West

650
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:16.480
Virginia and then multiple multiple ones where and this is

651
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:19.480
told me by Henry Franzoni, who's not with us anymore,

652
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:25.440
but I mean Native Americans would say, it can it

653
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:28.559
can affect the way that you walk and you move,

654
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:30.480
and if it wanted to, it can make you walk

655
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:35.840
off a cliff. And then I have another gentleman from

656
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:40.239
West Virginia that was like, yeah, I saw one laying

657
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:43.639
down and then I just wasn't controlling what I was

658
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:47.800
doing and I started walking away. Uh it just my

659
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.679
legs started walking by themselves, really really weird stuff. Man.

660
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.480
But I think at at the end of the day,

661
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:57.679
you know, it is it is a very interesting thing

662
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.960
because as you know, you don't want to open yourself

663
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:02.960
up to everything. You have to be aware what you

664
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:08.760
bring into your your house, uh could be literally. Yeah,

665
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:14.119
it's it's a very interesting thing being involved in this topic.

666
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:19.119
So did that was that the main thing that that

667
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.000
that the main memory that that affected having the not

668
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:22.920
just trace.

669
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:26.519
Yeah, so there was that. And then going back to

670
00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:29.239
that hunting experience with my stepdad and my stepdad like

671
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.280
you know, with his agreement, I will ask him about that,

672
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.280
and I might email you and I and see what

673
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:42.599
that conversation entails. You know. It's interesting. Yeah, so thinking

674
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:46.559
about you know, a lot of times maybe the agree

675
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:50.360
maybe the agreement he has is somehow he's like, hey,

676
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:54.079
I'm not gonna say anything really about any of this,

677
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.000
and that's what he's going to hold to. But I'll

678
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:02.320
ask him. So then in that so where that this

679
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:07.079
hunting trip took place. When I was young, my grandfather

680
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.280
and my uncle and I were part of a hunting

681
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:12.760
club in the same mountain chain, probably like five miles

682
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:17.079
down the mountain area in another area, and this is

683
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:19.000
what this is where the part that made me rethink

684
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.079
my some experiences in my youth, and these are brief

685
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:28.280
that they're similar. I always remember in talking about the

686
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:32.199
old hunting land with my uncle, like he would tell stories.

687
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:33.760
When we're just sitting around telling the stories, he would

688
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:37.840
just say, you'll hear sounds in that mountain that you

689
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:42.119
can't explain, there's no explanation for, and everything in the

690
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:45.360
woods will just shut up, he said. He said, you know,

691
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:48.679
and my uncle's are very uh, he's a he's a

692
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:52.000
workout he's a gym kind of guy, and he's always

693
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:56.239
just been absolutely jacked and you know, obviously holding high

694
00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:58.480
powered rifles. And he said, I've heard stuff in the

695
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:03.719
mountains that have made me want to go back to

696
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:06.440
the cabin, he said, but just sounds that you'll hear,

697
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.960
and the whole woods are just silent, and it's just

698
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:10.920
like we can't explain them. Now. I haven't heard what.

699
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:13.639
I didn't hear one of those as when I was young,

700
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:19.400
But I do specifically remember going through the woods and

701
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.559
walking out had a little you know, it was probably

702
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:26.639
seventh or eighth grade when I was you know old

703
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.280
enough to be in the woods on my you know,

704
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.519
started hunting, like in the fifth grade when I got

705
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.239
my hunter safety the course taken and you know, someone

706
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:36.639
will always sit with me. But then seventh and eighth grade,

707
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:39.079
I was starting to venture out on my own, walk

708
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:41.800
in the woods on my own. And I remember, I

709
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.719
mean the first time this happened, and then it's happened

710
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.559
multiple times after, I think even into adulthood that I

711
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:51.039
can remember be walking through the mountain on the four

712
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.320
wheel the trail this one instance when it first happened,

713
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:59.159
and I hear sound great, sounds like people talking. They

714
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:04.079
sound like kids talking. And I'm like, oh cool, my cousin.

715
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.239
You know, I'm encountering them. They're walking and hunting too,

716
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:11.679
and they're talking. So I'm like, so then the more

717
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:15.800
like I kind of start going towards the sound and listening,

718
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:22.199
I begin to notice it's not words, right, so and

719
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:27.960
and so I stopped. I standstill and keep listening, and

720
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:34.000
like you have to really like focus you're hearing, to

721
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:38.400
hear the sound and kind of to catch it. And

722
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:40.440
it sounded like it was in the same area I was.

723
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:42.480
It wasn't like a distant sound. It was just a

724
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.760
It was just a talking or what I thought was talking.

725
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:47.880
The way I can describe it, It's not like the

726
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:50.079
Sierra sounds like this. I guess we call it the

727
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:54.679
samurai chatter kind of thing. It was a yammering, but

728
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:58.079
it sounded like it could have been words, but it wasn't,

729
00:42:58.239 --> 00:42:59.880
and there was nobody Like I felt like I sho

730
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:03.119
have been able to see what it was that was

731
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:08.320
making the sound, and it just wasn't. There was nothing there,

732
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:13.519
and it was, you know, a higher pitched you know,

733
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:19.559
like picture two kids having a conversation, but no no words,

734
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:24.639
just yammering. And then at some point it got a

735
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:29.039
little more excited and I just took off running and

736
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:32.880
got back to the cabin. And I can't explain what

737
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:36.159
that was like it So now I look back on that,

738
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:41.559
I'm going, okay, given adult experiences, what was that? Because

739
00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:44.440
I've heard the sound again and the other times i've

740
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.159
heard it in different in both areas, in the old

741
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:49.440
hunting land and the land that I had the experience

742
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.719
with my stepdad on I've heard the sound, but i've

743
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.440
not the later times, I've just not been afraid of it.

744
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:59.039
I've been like stop and listen. That's weird. I've not

745
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:01.719
heard it since. I've had view of like, okay, could

746
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:05.280
this be something Bigfoot related? And like really look anymore

747
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.320
further than that, but just kind of like, oh, there's

748
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:12.519
that sound again, What the heck is that? And move on?

749
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:14.679
But it was just an odd I mean the first

750
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:16.440
time I did it. I mean, I have a high

751
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:21.519
powered rifle and I just pick it up and I'm gone,

752
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:28.440
and yeah, so I look back at that and go, Okay,

753
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.480
that was that something. And if I ever hear the

754
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:35.480
sound again, because again, I've not been afraid now looking

755
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.800
back on having experiences I had hearing sounds, I've not

756
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.360
been afraid to go back in the woods. I've always been.

757
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:43.840
I've always been like a little scared of the dark,

758
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.719
right so as a kid, and it is it is

759
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:52.960
interesting to walk through the woods before daylight and go

760
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:56.039
to a hunting spot. You know, it raises the hair

761
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:57.480
on your neck a little bit to walk in the

762
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.199
dark and not know what's beyond your flashlight. And there

763
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:01.960
are still hunting spots I don't like to go to

764
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:03.599
in the morning because I have to walk through a

765
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:06.199
certain area in the dark that I just don't like

766
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:11.199
and all that to say, like if I if I'm

767
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:14.360
in the woods and I hear that again, I'm gonna

768
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:17.079
spend some time like either I'm gonna find out that

769
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:19.559
this is something that whoa, I didn't know that could

770
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:23.880
make that sound, or I'm gonna get further. But I'm like,

771
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:28.920
I am determined to know what that is given knowledge

772
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:29.360
that I have.

773
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:34.519
Now, it sounds like it, man, sounds like that really

774
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:42.559
affected you and that's why that's wild stuff. But it

775
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:46.000
it also sounds like you're not really a guy who

776
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:50.400
you're gonna start going out and doing bigfoot expeditions.

777
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:55.880
I don't think so. Yeah, yeah, I've heard, you know,

778
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:59.760
stories about I think Blurry Creatures did a big episode.

779
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.440
It might have been it might have been Confessionals, but

780
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:06.440
with a guy out at Abrams Falls in the Cade's

781
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:10.400
Cove and and I've hiked out there before. I love

782
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:12.800
Kid's Cove. In college, I used to go there by

783
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.079
myself and just like walk as long as I could.

784
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:19.840
But I'm like, it would be interesting. I have some

785
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:27.639
I have another brother in law that he uh, he's

786
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:31.920
a he's a bigfoot guy. And I could kind of

787
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:33.719
joke and be like Hey, man, let's go to Abrams

788
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:35.679
Falls and look for a bigfoot. But I just don't know.

789
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:41.760
I feel like sometimes like me just to go out searching.

790
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:47.800
I don't know, I feel like the most compelling A

791
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.079
lot of the more compelling stories I've heard are from

792
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:54.719
people just existing and being in the area and they

793
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.239
kind of they kind of encounter and then of course,

794
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.480
you know, you go on expeditions and you guys, when

795
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:01.679
you have that group of people, when you have the

796
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:03.679
heat signatures that you have, and I looked at that,

797
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:06.360
and to me, you know, it looks like a panda

798
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:08.880
bear sitting in the woods, and you know, you catch

799
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:11.039
things like that. But I'm just like, you know what,

800
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:14.159
if I think my mindset is, if I'm going to

801
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.199
see one, I'm in the woods enough it seems like

802
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:20.360
they're there, I'm just gonna let it happen. And I'm

803
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:22.800
not going to I don't think I'm just going to

804
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.159
spend the time going like spending time to seek them out.

805
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.519
It's not that much of a burning desire. But I

806
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.559
have my own experiences and if they could, you know,

807
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:34.760
if they occur in the course of my hunting, then

808
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.159
I'm going to go out there I might take one,

809
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:41.159
you know, like if we're in East Tennessee and end

810
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:44.039
up going on a hike or something, I might my

811
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:46.719
antenna might be up a little more for that sort

812
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:47.079
of thing.

813
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:51.159
And I think that man, if you're just if man,

814
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.840
if you're just hiking, if you're just hunting down in

815
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:59.239
that state with a open open ears and open eyes,

816
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:01.599
you're probably gonna have other stuff happen. I mean, just

817
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:05.239
being out there, like you were saying, but I'll share,

818
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:10.199
I'll share a story with you real quick, because you know,

819
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:14.320
you never know, you never know when when you get

820
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:21.679
to tell stories, right. So recently I really wanted to

821
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:29.079
do like a solo camp out before treatment start this

822
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:34.119
coming Tuesday, And so I was like talking to my

823
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:35.679
wife and I was like I really want to do this,

824
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:39.440
and she's like okay. And then just to like clear

825
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:43.480
my head, you know. Yeah, And the oncologist was like, well,

826
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:47.840
we don't like you going through airports and like going

827
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.159
out to Oregon, but like if it's close by that

828
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.400
you know, reconnect with nature, that's fine. I was like, okay, cool.

829
00:48:55.079 --> 00:49:00.320
So I've always had, as you said, you know, fear

830
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:03.199
of the dark. I've always had like an apprehensive fear

831
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.840
of the dark as well, and I was like this

832
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.639
this weekend, I'm like, I'm going to get I'm going

833
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:11.559
to get over that. It's just I'm gonna get over it.

834
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:15.840
So I usually get go into the tent once it

835
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:18.360
gets dark, but this time I was like, I'm going

836
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:21.760
to stay up, start a fire and just hang out

837
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:26.079
and get over this. Right. So it's about like eleven

838
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:31.039
thirty at night. I'm in the middle of Iowa woods,

839
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.639
way out there, no one else out there, and so

840
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:37.800
I'm sitting by the fire. My back is to the

841
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.280
tree line, and then it's you know, like you can

842
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:44.440
kind of sense there's something behind you. And I did

843
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:50.119
this whole like this whole deal where sorry for audio listeners,

844
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:54.079
it's like you kinda look a little bit to your back,

845
00:49:54.679 --> 00:50:01.559
over your shoulder, and half a second after that, something

846
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:05.639
was on that tree line and just like ran off

847
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.599
into the woods on two legs, and I was like,

848
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:11.639
oh my goodness, what was that. And then about a

849
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:16.960
minute later, this is the weird part, I heard something

850
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:20.079
in the woods that sounded like an angry duck yelling

851
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.199
at me, and I was like, I'm going crazy, Like

852
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:28.400
I ducks don't sound angry in real life, I think,

853
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.320
And it's in the middle of the night, like I'm like,

854
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.880
I don't know what happened, and then I went to bed.

855
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.320
It's interesting how like you can have something like that

856
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:40.119
just like you know what, I'm going to sleep.

857
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:42.280
Well, I got I got really tired, and I was like,

858
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:44.599
I need to go to bed. It's very weird. It

859
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.519
was a little weird, Jeremy. So I just want to

860
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:48.519
throw that story out there about it.

861
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:50.480
But did you get to get out.

862
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:52.760
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a good uh, you know,

863
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:59.079
reset before the the crazy stuff. So but dude, thank

864
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:02.480
you so much for for coming on the show. If

865
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:07.199
you do talk talk to him about what his agreement

866
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.519
with Bigfoot was, send me an email. I'd love to

867
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.760
hear about it. It would be a fun time. But dude,

868
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:17.559
best to be safe out there when you're hunting down Tennessee.

869
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:19.760
You never know what you're going to run into. But

870
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:23.000
thank you so much for coming on the show today. Jeremy.

871
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:26.679
Hey, it's been a pleasure and hopefully we're talking again today.

872
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:31.000
You guys has a going Let me make sure feeling

873
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:35.639
pretty good today. No pregnant isonn today, So don't feel

874
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:41.000
all amped up. So that's that's a good thing so

875
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:41.679
far today.

876
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:50.000
Thank I'm trying to get better. I just found out

877
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.719
I got alpha gol from being on the mountain just

878
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:57.679
collecting royals this spring and thirteen ticks and I'm very sick.

879
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:00.199
Oh my goodness. I'm sorry to hear that. He uh,

880
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:03.159
you have a radio or something in your background.

881
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:06.800
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry about that, Bud.

882
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.480
I'm kind of new to all this, so yeah, you're good.

883
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:15.639
Deer Hunt. You're in eastern Kentucky. I live in apple ATCHI.

884
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:20.000
I just moved through about two years ago. I didn't

885
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:24.719
see anything, but I hang in the woods after dark

886
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:27.199
to hear the creatures and everything move around me.

887
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.119
Okay, interesting, what did you hear out there?

888
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.599
It was would have been on the very top of

889
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:46.079
my mountain. I was aways from it, but it was

890
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:52.159
like whoo. But it's more than anything. It it resonated

891
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:55.320
in my chest. It was like going to a concert

892
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:59.199
with those big bass speakers and feeling that resonation in

893
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:03.719
your chest. It was it was, it was big, it

894
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:10.440
was mighty. That was just one call, but it it

895
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:14.719
sounded like a great eight. I mean, I'm sixty one

896
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:17.400
years old. I've been in the woods. I grew up

897
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:22.079
on a farm my life, and I've never actually heard

898
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.920
this kind of call.

899
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:30.400
Wow, oh wow. So east east Kentucky is pretty wild.

900
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:33.280
I'm thinking of like Harlan County's over there, right.

901
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:36.920
Yeah, I live in Elliott County, Kentucky.

902
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:43.960
Okay, Sandy Hook. Yeah, let me look that up real quick.

903
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.360
I don't know if I know Sandy Hook, Kentucky.

904
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:53.960
I'm about and I'm about an out ten minutes from Lexington.

905
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:58.199
That's the closest really big city. I'm actually closest to

906
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:01.800
West Virginia, and you know, Cincinnati's about.

907
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:02.280
Three hours away.

908
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:08.119
But so have you heard of other people experiencing things

909
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:11.079
around your same area as well?

910
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:16.920
Yeah, it's it's uh, you know, the lore in Apalatria

911
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:22.360
is it's not lower it's it's kind of incredible.

912
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:27.639
Actually, oh absolutely, I mean you are about I mean

913
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:32.320
you're east of like Cave Run Lake, Red River Gorge

914
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:37.440
and all that in that area is pretty wild as well.

915
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:37.880
Yeah.

916
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:42.440
The Cave Run Lake is, it covers seven counties and

917
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:46.199
it's the largest man made lake ever. And all the

918
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:50.719
post offices, all the banks, all the cemeteries, they didn't

919
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:54.719
move the graves. They just moved the headstone, so there's

920
00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:55.199
a lot.

921
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:56.679
Of trip stuff with that too.

922
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.960
Do you have any idea but fay are.

923
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:04.480
Oh like like the fairies?

924
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:06.920
Yeah?

925
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:13.960
Yeah, I've got photographic evidence on my dear cameras and

926
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:19.559
with pictures I take of different color orbs that show

927
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:26.039
up and one of them, actually I kid you, not

928
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:30.519
morph into a It was red. It comes up and

929
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:32.920
across the field right in front of the deer camera.

930
00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:36.039
It was just an orb and it morphed into just

931
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:40.199
a red fairy and I just it blew my mind.

932
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.840
I've been hearing this from a few people lately, and

933
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:50.280
not just on TikTok. So you have that on a photo,

934
00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:51.599
I do.

935
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:53.360
Wow?

936
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:58.840
Is that something? I mean, if you'd be willing to

937
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.559
to share it, I would love to take a look

938
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:05.519
at it. My email is Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

939
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:07.079
But that sounds incredible.

940
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:13.760
It's actually the story Rent that I bought some horses

941
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:16.159
at an auction and they traded them out for really

942
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:19.519
old horses, and this horse was gonna die if I

943
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:21.039
didn't get him to the top of mountain on a

944
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:24.679
better Pathtor. My daughter's terrified of big animals and she

945
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:26.039
was walking this horse up.

946
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:31.039
It was getting barred, and you know, she was afraid.

947
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:35.360
Down in a really deep dark collar, and these red,

948
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:40.159
orange and yellow orbs came scared the horse. She had

949
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:42.760
some idea what it was. When the horse calmed down,

950
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:45.719
I'm not kidding you. They guided her all the way

951
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:48.559
up to the mountain. I took a horse up there,

952
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:53.719
and I mean, now they come like when I go

953
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:57.159
on the mountain and I'm doing poetry shooting video. I

954
00:56:57.280 --> 00:56:59.559
just stopped the other night to take photographs of the

955
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:03.360
pullman and the clouds settled over the valley. It's not fog,

956
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:08.320
it's clouds were that high up and here they came,

957
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:12.480
and there's a green moon that when you do anything

958
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.760
like creative or whatever, they come and hang out, and

959
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:19.239
it's multiple orbs. To get to see the energy, it

960
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.880
actually looks like more than one together.

961
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:24.119
Oh wow, it's kind of amazing.

962
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:25.800
This is all new to me.

963
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:32.599
But this must be just blowing your mind to experience

964
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:33.920
that it is.

965
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.320
But I'm a good steward of my land. I don't

966
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:42.079
I don't use any chemicals here. I if I cut trees,

967
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:47.239
it's very selectively. And my daughter had the theory that

968
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:51.079
in that very dark collar. There's something ancient that lives there,

969
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:57.599
and these fays protected they protected her, they protected that horse.

970
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:02.280
And I don't care what any he says. I totally

971
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.880
believe it because I'm experiencing it. It's just the most

972
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:13.400
amazing to me, the big woop and it was. The

973
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:16.400
thing is, it wasn't really close to me. It was

974
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.880
calling in another direction. I don't know if it knew

975
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:23.760
I was there, but it resonated in my chest so deeply.

976
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:25.840
It was something big.

977
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:31.239
It had to have been. That is wild. How how

978
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:34.000
big were the like the orbs you were seeing?

979
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:40.000
The orbs actually are not very big, Okay, sometimes and

980
00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:45.519
they're like the size of maybe a half dollar. Sometimes

981
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:48.760
they're they're bigger than that. Sometimes it's kind of wild.

982
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:51.519
When you take a picture, you don't see them. But

983
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:55.880
when you look at the pictures later though, they are.

984
00:58:56.639 --> 00:59:00.880
And then sometimes if you lose track of what you're seeing,

985
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:04.840
if you look back through the camera, they're interactive. They

986
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:06.960
play with you. They'll cut down in the grass and

987
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:11.440
go behind you. I've debunked bugs, I've debunked you know,

988
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:13.119
just kind of wild, you.

989
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:17.840
Know, fascinating. So pocket it sounds like you are just

990
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:21.920
starting your story. I bet there's going to be more

991
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.280
things that happened to you out there in Sandy Hook.

992
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:25.480
Thank you for sharing. Man.

993
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:32.159
Yeah, I've got nineteen less They're still totally dark cameras.

994
00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:35.639
But you know what's wild is is they they apparently

995
00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:38.639
like the cameras. They're they're drawn to them. And I

996
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.599
don't know why I'm getting that kind of response, but

997
00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:45.119
I feel really blessed. I do, And I've been looking

998
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:48.599
for a really good stick to knock, but I'm a

999
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:50.400
little bit afraid something going knock.

1000
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:54.280
Back, you know, right, Yeah, yeah, I got you. I

1001
00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:58.519
got you, dude, Wild So dude, yeah, I mean think

1002
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.639
it over if you're if you're able to share that photo,

1003
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:04.559
I'd love to see it, but totally up to you.

1004
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:04.800
Man.

1005
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:08.039
So I've got some photos.

1006
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.920
I'll send you the green ones, uh, the one of

1007
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:15.039
the red one that came that that actually more I

1008
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:19.559
believe that went to my dear camera company server as well.

1009
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:23.400
So I'm hoping that I can go back and recover that.

1010
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:27.159
But when I get these nineteen cameras up, I'm really

1011
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:31.320
interested in what I pick up on video and audio.

1012
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.880
Well my goodness, yeah, oh great, Wild stuff Pocket, Thank

1013
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:39.440
you so much for Sharon. Keep in touch. Please we

1014
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:41.559
got to hear what happens next. But thank you for

1015
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:42.639
hanging out with us today.

1016
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:43.920
Man, cool.

1017
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.679
Good stuff. Pocket is new to this and he is

1018
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:54.159
getting into the wild stuff of Kentucky. Thank you for

1019
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:58.000
coming up, sir. Hey, Molly, how are you hi? How

1020
01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:01.840
are you hey? I'm doing it. Thank you for coming up.

1021
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:03.239
And I listened to you all the time.

1022
01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:05.639
I just want to know I'm sending you positive energy

1023
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.000
on your healing journey. And I love your shows. I

1024
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:09.519
listened to him every night before I go to bed.

1025
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:12.599
Thank you, Thank you, Molly. I appreciate that more than

1026
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:12.800
you know.

1027
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:15.639
Okay, I just wanted to I was just sitting and listen.

1028
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:17.559
I listened to you, you know, all the time, and

1029
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:20.559
these these live call ins, and I have a I

1030
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:22.960
haven't had a sighting, but I just thought I would

1031
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:26.599
share a couple of our experiences because we have a

1032
01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:29.199
little I have a little unique background. I would say,

1033
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:34.239
probably not the typical people that go you know, not

1034
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:37.599
that I'm I'm not discounting anyone. I'm just saying, with

1035
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:41.559
our background and our family, we have had the thing

1036
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:44.519
that that got us interested in this was a strange

1037
01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:49.079
experience our son had, and since then, my husband and

1038
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:51.119
I and our eleven year old son have gone on

1039
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:53.760
to b f r O b f r O expeditions,

1040
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:57.519
and uh, I just thought I would share that because

1041
01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:00.400
it's it's really interesting. And I think what we always

1042
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:02.360
say when we kind of talk about this, my husband

1043
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.599
and I, is well, we do have evidence of some

1044
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:10.320
very strange prints and if it's not Bigfoot making them,

1045
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:13.880
something is. And I know personally that these but these

1046
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:17.039
weren't faked. So I decided to share that. It started

1047
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:23.079
out my son about fifteen years ago, went camping in

1048
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:28.760
the Hoosier National Forest and he this is I mean,

1049
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:31.079
I think the Bigfoot TV shows and things like that

1050
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:33.960
had you know, been out, but he wasn't really we

1051
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:36.039
weren't really watching them on a regular basis or anything,

1052
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:39.400
so he really wasn't into that. But he was probably nineteen,

1053
01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:42.800
you know, eighteen nineteen somewhere in there. He went with

1054
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:46.880
a friend and they went off trail. So they were

1055
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:50.000
doing a little bit not completely primitive camping, but they

1056
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:53.320
went off trail and they went up near a fire tower,

1057
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:55.960
and he was, you know, texting periodically because he was

1058
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:56.679
still pretty young.

1059
01:02:57.920 --> 01:02:59.800
We were we did not have bigfoot fever.

1060
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:02.000
We were not into the whole I mean, I've always

1061
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:04.400
liked things kind of strange and paranormal and kind of

1062
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:07.840
out there. My background is teaching. I have a degree

1063
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:10.320
in teaching. My husband's electrical engineer. He went to a

1064
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:15.239
private engineering school. We have three boys. We just we've

1065
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:17.880
always been very open minded to everything, but not really

1066
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:22.119
into the whole thing. Kind of out of nowhere. I

1067
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:27.920
get a picture from my son, and he's intelligent, soft spoken,

1068
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:32.360
loves the wilderness. My husband's from a farm in Wisconsin.

1069
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:35.239
I'm from Indiana, so we've had a lot of experience

1070
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:36.760
out in the woods. We're not new beest, but we're

1071
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:39.320
not a huge hunting family family or anything more camping,

1072
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:42.559
hiking things like that. So he sends us a photo

1073
01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:49.440
of he has a size thirteen boot and it was

1074
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:54.920
raining off trail, muddy everywhere, and he just sends me

1075
01:03:54.960 --> 01:04:01.000
this picture of this ginormous footprint with his size thirteen

1076
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:08.400
boot next to it. Huge, probably like four or five

1077
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:13.599
at least inches lengthwise past his boot and at least

1078
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:19.519
double the width of his boot. The consecutive photos wore

1079
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:24.159
that same print or a print similar to that going off.

1080
01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:26.320
It was like something was crossing the trail. I had

1081
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:28.960
a left angle and they were on a ridge. You

1082
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:33.039
can see in the distance the fire tower. It wasn't

1083
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:36.199
I would say, it's probably more like an animal trail

1084
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:38.000
and you know, like a deer trail something. It wasn't

1085
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:43.440
a like hiking trail. It was probably later in the evening,

1086
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.400
so misty dark, not dark, but it was like that

1087
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:51.559
rainy evening kind of weather. The subsequent photos from that

1088
01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:57.360
were the large footprints with smaller footprints inside of them

1089
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:01.039
off the trail, and I was, It's like, what was that?

1090
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:05.119
And my son's like, uh, I don't know what that.

1091
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:09.119
So, you know, he takes these photos, comes home, and

1092
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.119
you know, we are very curious family. Like I said,

1093
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:14.519
open to everything. I like more of the wu Wu stuff.

1094
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:16.559
I mean, I just I'm open for anything. You know,

1095
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:19.119
my husband is too. So as a family we're kind

1096
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:21.760
of like, I know that my son didn't go out

1097
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:24.159
there with like a fake print, you know what I mean,

1098
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:27.000
off trail, primitive camping at night in the who's your

1099
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:27.679
National Forest?

1100
01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:28.519
By a fire darmer?

1101
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:32.239
I know he didn't do that, right, So you know

1102
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:34.159
what I mean, it's like other people can say, oh,

1103
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:34.880
you know, that's faker.

1104
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:37.719
He those were those are real.

1105
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:40.400
So we're like, what, Alex sa our son, We're like,

1106
01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:43.920
what made those prints? So we start looking into it.

1107
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:45.400
We get super curious.

1108
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:47.440
You know, I was a big I read all Jeff

1109
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:51.280
Meldrum's books because my parents were professors. I'm very curious

1110
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:54.599
about you know, science and all these other things. And

1111
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:57.320
I got to tell you there's something out there making

1112
01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:04.159
big footprints. Because since then, we've gone on to BFRO exhibitions.

1113
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:06.360
Not that I'm a huge BFRO you know, like fan,

1114
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:08.440
I know all the controversy with them and everything, but.

1115
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:12.320
We've gone on two of those with my son. It

1116
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:13.800
was fun my our eleven year old.

1117
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:15.800
We have an eleven year old now, Alex, the one

1118
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:18.599
that found the prince originally is twenty nine, and then

1119
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:22.159
we have a twenty six year old. Three boys, and

1120
01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:24.320
we went on the you know, camping. It'd be fun.

1121
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:26.440
It's also interesting for us, you know, for an eleven

1122
01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:30.239
year old. But our eleven year olds found a print

1123
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:34.440
in the grass by a small teepee structure woven all

1124
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:37.760
together weirdly here in Wisconsin. It was the Wisconsin bfro

1125
01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:40.840
and it was just what we were kind of. I

1126
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:43.880
think some of the adults went on the like more

1127
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:47.360
aggressive bigfoot you know, sasquatch hunting with all their equipment,

1128
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:49.039
and then we kind of went with like the older

1129
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:51.239
people and walked. But it's in a place here in

1130
01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:54.719
Wisconsin that has had had had a couple of class

1131
01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:55.639
as recently.

1132
01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:57.639
So we go.

1133
01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:00.320
My son, my eleven year old, he was had the

1134
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:03.519
times like what's that? It was very strange, you know,

1135
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:05.440
and we look kind of into the woods. Of course,

1136
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:09.039
a kid finds that and it's this woven, little woven,

1137
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:11.239
little like pyramid looking thing.

1138
01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:15.320
You know, do with it what you will, but.

1139
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:19.760
It was done with something with hands, you know. And

1140
01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:22.079
so we're all walking a kind of walking around, you know,

1141
01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:25.920
looking around. My son puts his hand down on the

1142
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:29.440
ground and the person that was kind of leading the

1143
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:32.480
group said, yeah, that feels like a footprint.

1144
01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:33.280
What do you know.

1145
01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:38.039
We brought casting material and we casted two big footprints.

1146
01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:40.079
When you cast it and pressed it in there correctly,

1147
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:42.840
it is a footprint with toes and everything else.

1148
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:43.880
We have those here at home.

1149
01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:47.960
But you know, when we've kind of enjoyed the subject,

1150
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:49.960
but I just wanted to share that that we have

1151
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:54.719
some prints in our family has some experiences that are

1152
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:57.920
pretty reliable and very very interesting.

1153
01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:03.039
That's fantastic. Is that Bob leading the Wisconsin one?

1154
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:04.280
Yes?

1155
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:06.159
Yeah, Bob's Bob.

1156
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:06.440
Ye.

1157
01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:09.360
He's really nice. He's really nice. He's he led the

1158
01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:12.119
love him because I went last year and he led

1159
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:15.039
the Iowa one. He's a really nice guy.

1160
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:19.319
He's fantastic. Yeah, So he helped Hudson, you know, our

1161
01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:22.600
son cast it. But I gotta tell you, we're all.

1162
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:25.880
We kind of look at it like this.

1163
01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:29.079
You can you can say I believe or I don't

1164
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:31.199
believe in big but or sasquatch all you want.

1165
01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:34.439
But whatever you whether you want.

1166
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:37.720
To believe in that or not, something organic is making

1167
01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:40.159
large footprints, you know what I mean?

1168
01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:45.439
No exactly, And it's like you can't explain it right, Well,

1169
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:48.840
I know it is, but it's hard to logically explain away.

1170
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:55.439
So if you're if you're based out of Indiana, you

1171
01:08:55.479 --> 01:08:57.600
were saying, who's your national.

1172
01:08:57.800 --> 01:08:58.439
Live in Indiana?

1173
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:00.880
And now we live in Wisconsin and oh okay, we

1174
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:02.119
moved here about five years ago.

1175
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:06.439
Well, I mean, Wisconsin, you got plenty of stuff just

1176
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:08.479
for people from Indiana. Man, if I was out there,

1177
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:11.479
I'd be hitting up Morgan, Monroe, and Hoosier all the time.

1178
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:15.359
That stuff is crazy. Yeah, Wisconsin, you guys have like

1179
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:20.399
I mean, all sorts of wild stuff you could get

1180
01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:23.479
into up there. It's pretty cool, Like the Driftless area

1181
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:24.640
that's pretty awesome.

1182
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:27.520
But yeah, and the farther north you go, the more

1183
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:31.039
sightings there are. Then I'm right near the oh god,

1184
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:35.159
I can't remember what it's called right now. Where the

1185
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:41.880
where the the the places that had the big huge

1186
01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:43.319
like caves and things like that.

1187
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:45.319
I'm in econom of Walk, Wisconsin.

1188
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:49.279
Okay, So we have a couple parks here that are

1189
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:50.840
like have tons of sightings in them.

1190
01:09:52.560 --> 01:09:54.920
I get some stuff from and I don't know how

1191
01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:59.319
to say it, but it's like, uh sure, Shaquaman Nicolette

1192
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:03.640
National Forest by the border. It's like north Wisconsin.

1193
01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:07.920
Yeah, yeah, that's yet up in Door County. It's crazy,

1194
01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:10.439
but it's like, yeah, there's tons of forests and things.

1195
01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:13.479
Another thing I wanted to say, Like I started off,

1196
01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:16.199
like most people do, listening to Sasquatch chronicles and really

1197
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.800
getting into that and thinking, you know, statistically, with my

1198
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:22.479
science brain, how many of these people that have absolutely

1199
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:25.319
no vested interest in making crap up are making this up,

1200
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:25.920
you know what I mean.

1201
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:27.439
It's just insane.

1202
01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:30.359
So I started listening to that, and now I heard

1203
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:32.239
the last color mentioned a light, and there's all these

1204
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.520
things about orbs, and I've always been trying to kind

1205
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:37.079
of like figure out what could happen when I don't

1206
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:39.399
know something, you know, we kind of just say it's

1207
01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:41.319
okay to say I don't know, Like I don't have.

1208
01:10:41.279 --> 01:10:43.960
To jump into what I believe exactly.

1209
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.800
But I'll tell you an experience with light that we

1210
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:49.279
did have is when we were all that same It

1211
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:52.359
was the next year, we're with Bob again, and my

1212
01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:55.159
husband and my son and I did strap up and

1213
01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:58.520
go with the big boys, you know, and go out

1214
01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:00.479
into the deep deep woods.

1215
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:02.840
And they were like bringing Hudson. I'm like, yep, we're

1216
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:03.439
bringing Hudson.

1217
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:06.760
But when we did take a lap around the place

1218
01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:10.680
the year before where Hudson had found that print and

1219
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:15.520
that little that little woven thing, you know, Uh, we

1220
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:19.239
were walking around the lake dar it was like super creepy.

1221
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:22.720
My husband, Jason, and Bob were kind of probably about

1222
01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:26.000
fifteen steps in front of like five of us. And

1223
01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:31.920
Bob and Jason like just like screamed, like all like yelled.

1224
01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:33.600
They both yelled all of a sudden, We're like what,

1225
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:35.720
They're like, what was that? And the five of us

1226
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:37.600
that were behind him kind of we were just kind

1227
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:41.520
of stopped, looking around different directions. Bob and Jason said,

1228
01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:45.159
what was that? That wasn't lightning. They both at the

1229
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:50.640
same time saw the brightest flash of light. And my husband,

1230
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:54.720
being an electrical engineer, you know, he he's he's like,

1231
01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:57.640
I cannot describe to you, Molly how bright this was.

1232
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:01.319
But we didn't see it like feet behind them, and

1233
01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:03.720
there had been some weird noises in the woods. We'd

1234
01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:06.079
heard a couple of little strange chirps and some kind

1235
01:12:06.119 --> 01:12:08.520
of strange things on this little path we were taking.

1236
01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:11.239
But Bob and Jason were both very shook by this

1237
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:14.159
bright flash of light that the rest of us didn't see.

1238
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:16.399
They said it was like a bluish white light. And

1239
01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:18.520
Jason and Bob had the same experience. But I don't

1240
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:22.920
know how that relates, but they experienced that and we didn't,

1241
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:25.039
and it was very, very, very weird, and to shake

1242
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:27.680
my husband up is almost impossible.

1243
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:32.880
So wow, Yeah, that's very well. It is weird how

1244
01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:37.279
weird light stuff seems to connect to the phenomenon, and

1245
01:12:37.319 --> 01:12:41.119
I've experienced that down in Tennessee over back in April.

1246
01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:44.920
It was weird. But but man, Mollie, thank you so

1247
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:47.560
much for coming up and for chatting a little bit.

1248
01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:50.560
Check out the Kettle Moraine area someone took.

1249
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:52.439
Oh that's what I was trying to think of. I'm

1250
01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:55.640
so New York Kettle Moraine. The weird stuff goes on

1251
01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:55.960
in there.

1252
01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:57.640
I'm gonna head over there in a couple of weeks

1253
01:12:57.640 --> 01:13:00.439
and just take we take hikes during the day, but

1254
01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:02.720
I think I'm gonna strap up and go by myself.

1255
01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:07.159
Look up, watch do you know Japacho Chin?

1256
01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:08.560
Yes?

1257
01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:11.880
Okay, so you've watched this stuff. Good.

1258
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:15.199
I've been thinking that maybe I should get a hold

1259
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:16.600
of him because he's not very far from me.

1260
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:19.600
You know, he's a really nice guy. I've met him

1261
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:22.800
in person, and I would recommend he might be a

1262
01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:25.119
guy that would be up to being reached out to.

1263
01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:28.119
You don't know, but he's a really nice guy. I've

1264
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:30.279
hung out with him at a festival, So okay, awesome,

1265
01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:31.119
recommend it.

1266
01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:32.880
Let me have to share our stuff and thank you

1267
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:34.720
for your show. I absolutely love it and good luck

1268
01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:39.479
to you all right, bye bye, good stuff.

1269
01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:44.479
Gotta love hanging out with another Midwestern Hi, Sabina, have

1270
01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:49.880
you good, thank you awesome. Feel free to share what

1271
01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:51.039
you would like to share.

1272
01:13:51.239 --> 01:14:00.680
Sabina, Howdy, Jinka, Den Sabina Dennis sut Me. I'm from

1273
01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:07.159
Dakath Territory in central BC. And are people always know

1274
01:14:07.279 --> 01:14:12.359
there's sasquatch. There's no doubt or question. We don't have

1275
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:15.880
to question that. We know that. We have a name

1276
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:20.840
for our sasquatch. A few names. One is see Lowel

1277
01:14:22.079 --> 01:14:25.960
and the other is the nay Aye, which means man eater.

1278
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:29.039
The other one, I'm not sure the meeting. It's more

1279
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:34.399
of a name. And I was very picking on one

1280
01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:40.239
of our beautiful sacred mountains, Bazkath, right beside our village.

1281
01:14:40.399 --> 01:14:44.399
And I was fourteen, and in those days we pick

1282
01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:49.039
berry still we do everything living on the land. And

1283
01:14:49.119 --> 01:14:52.960
so I was by myself quite far away from the village,

1284
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:57.319
like about four kilometers, and I rode my bike hiked

1285
01:14:57.359 --> 01:15:01.520
up the mountain picking gooseberries. The first berries ripe into

1286
01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:08.039
spring summer, early summer, and all of a sudden I

1287
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:12.600
smelled this most foul odor, worse than any rotten fowl

1288
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:16.800
I ever smelled in my life. And I looked over

1289
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:21.039
across there was a big cliff on the other side

1290
01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:23.560
of the cliff. I was on one side and on

1291
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.920
the other side of the cliff, I looked over and

1292
01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:31.640
I could see giant trees, giant trees like about some

1293
01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:36.239
of them were about two feet in diameter, like large

1294
01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:42.720
fir trees, and some really large poplar trees. And it

1295
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:45.960
was coming towards me in a line of trees, and

1296
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:50.720
the trees were swaying back and forth about twenty feet

1297
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:57.800
twenty feet to the side to the side, and so

1298
01:15:57.960 --> 01:16:02.119
I just freaked out and ran down the side of

1299
01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:07.960
the cliff mountain like about. It was about between two

1300
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:12.239
to four meter strides. I was taking down the mountain

1301
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:15.720
running because it was so terrifying. And I just jumped

1302
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:18.760
on my bike and rode home. And I told my grandma.

1303
01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:23.520
I said, there must have been a grizzly bear up there. Grandmother,

1304
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:28.600
and she said, and I what happened, And I recalled

1305
01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:31.560
the story exactly what happened, and she said, ah, t

1306
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:36.319
Setloel wanted to come and abduct you because in our

1307
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:42.159
people's beliefs they abducted virgins, and I was a virgin,

1308
01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:48.239
and she said, you're lucky you didn't get abducted. And

1309
01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:52.640
then not long after I was recalled stories of our

1310
01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:56.680
not long ago passed where our village, when the white

1311
01:16:56.760 --> 01:17:03.000
Man first came, and about the mid early nineteen hundreds

1312
01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:07.039
in our territory, they came to settle in our area,

1313
01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:11.000
and the white Man started burying our bodies. We used

1314
01:17:11.039 --> 01:17:17.239
to always cremate. Sure enough that buried unburied, there they'd

1315
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:22.239
find a robed grave with the bodies missing. And so

1316
01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:30.079
the minister, the Catholic minister, told the people he would

1317
01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:32.800
find out what it was. They knew what it was.

1318
01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:38.880
It was Danaii, the man eater. But he buried himself

1319
01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:42.119
and put a straw in the ground so he could breathe.

1320
01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:48.279
And sure enough that that Danaie came and put him

1321
01:17:48.279 --> 01:17:51.760
in a big sack on his back and carried him

1322
01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:54.640
to our sacred mountain right beside on the other side.

1323
01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:59.720
It's called at Sea's Mountain, and there is a big

1324
01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:03.880
king there where that the Naie has been known to

1325
01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:09.479
live for many, many thousands of years. And sure enough

1326
01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:11.680
he took them there and down, down, down, so deep

1327
01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:17.279
into the mountain, and he was around the family members

1328
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:21.840
and everything. When they went out, they went to sleep,

1329
01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:28.399
and he took his opportunity and started to run run

1330
01:18:28.439 --> 01:18:34.439
from out, and they that sasquatch chased him back to

1331
01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:39.279
the village and the people surrounded that sasquatch and killed it.

1332
01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:43.319
And that was told to me by a ninety year

1333
01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:48.319
old elder in the nineties. So that was an account

1334
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:56.239
after colonizer came and and there's a story of after

1335
01:18:56.359 --> 01:19:01.760
colonizer came of that they also killed a Sasquatch baby

1336
01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:09.079
in our village and they buried it somewhere near the village.

1337
01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:17.319
And then sure enough, that mother Sasquatch, she kept knocking

1338
01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:21.319
on the windows of all the village members and harassing

1339
01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:29.000
the village for scaring them in their homes in there.

1340
01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:32.279
They had white man homes back then. It was probably

1341
01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:39.359
in the mid nineteen hundreds. And then they had to

1342
01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:44.600
unbury that baby sasquatch that they killed, and they offered

1343
01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:46.760
it back to the mother, just put it on the

1344
01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:51.880
ground somewhere out there. And then after that they were

1345
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:56.520
allowed to they were at peace. The mother left them

1346
01:19:56.560 --> 01:20:02.479
alone after that, and another time not long ago, only

1347
01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:05.840
a few years ago. Along the north shore of the

1348
01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:09.000
lake where I lived, my sister and I were doing

1349
01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:15.279
a ceremony and it was getting dark past dark by

1350
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:19.039
the time we were done, and the embers were just

1351
01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:23.159
leaving our ceremony. They were just burning out, but we

1352
01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:28.479
had to wait, and sure enough, all of a sudden,

1353
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:36.239
twenty trees at least fell at once, big trees, and

1354
01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:40.319
one right in front of my truck. We were very terrified,

1355
01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:45.680
but we continued to complete our ceremony, and it took

1356
01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:50.399
about twenty more minutes or so. And when we went

1357
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:54.039
to walk up to the truck from the waterside to leave,

1358
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:58.760
and sure enough that big giant tree was only like

1359
01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:03.239
inches from the front of my vehicle, luckily not the back,

1360
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:07.560
or else we would have been stuck there, so I didn't.

1361
01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.199
We just drove up the hill and I had to

1362
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:13.920
move trees off the road that had fallen above the road,

1363
01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:19.800
like quite far. Oddly, the night before that, before we

1364
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:22.439
did the ceremony, I had a sacred bundle set up

1365
01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:26.239
and you know, a big, big drum and out in

1366
01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:29.199
the bush waiting for us. I just said it there

1367
01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:32.720
and before we got there to do our ceremony that

1368
01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:39.600
drum had been thrown off the road like in a

1369
01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:47.680
very human like manner. And yeah, so, like I said,

1370
01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:52.279
our people don't question if there's big foot. Another story

1371
01:21:52.359 --> 01:21:56.399
I had was when I was in a territory in Sequat,

1372
01:21:56.479 --> 01:22:04.439
move little bit farther away, different nation from me, on

1373
01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:09.000
the West Fraser, and I was in a little cabin

1374
01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:13.880
with my friend and it was getting late, my little

1375
01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:16.279
daughter was sleeping, and all of a sudden we could

1376
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:22.079
hear scraping on the outside of our cabin. It was

1377
01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:28.079
a little probably twenty by twenty cabin. Sounded like somebody

1378
01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:33.720
dragging a stick around the cabin on the outside all

1379
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:40.079
the way around, and we were pretty scared, but just

1380
01:22:40.119 --> 01:22:42.199
went to bed. And then first thing in the morning

1381
01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:44.600
I went out to look and there was a stick

1382
01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:47.800
drag on the ground in the mud, and it went

1383
01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:52.479
from the cabin across the road to a little trail

1384
01:22:52.560 --> 01:22:57.439
on the mountain right behind us, and there I could

1385
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:02.079
see human footprints and then as it was and the

1386
01:23:02.119 --> 01:23:11.439
stick drag beside it, and then as it turned into coyote,

1387
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:18.720
those prints with that stick drag. And that's another encounter

1388
01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:19.319
we had.

1389
01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:20.880
Wow.

1390
01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:26.760
When I was picking berries, picking mushrooms more else. After

1391
01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:30.800
the big, huge latest fire in our territory about six

1392
01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:36.840
years ago, not even maybe three, four years ago maybe,

1393
01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:41.960
and we were way up in the bush and we

1394
01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:45.600
almost got lost, me and my friend, which we don't

1395
01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:50.159
take a compass or anything usually, I just know the way,

1396
01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:54.920
and I unusual circumstance happened where I lost my way.

1397
01:23:55.000 --> 01:24:00.239
It was very weird, and I was like, okay, got

1398
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:04.760
to retrace my footprints back to where I lost my senses,

1399
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:09.159
and so we started heading back. All of a sudden,

1400
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:13.720
every time giantest sound way out in the bush, like

1401
01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:18.239
we were forty kilometers to the nearest people, and it

1402
01:24:18.319 --> 01:24:24.119
was the loudest sound, eerie, just so from way across

1403
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:28.880
the mountain side, like it must have been about twenty

1404
01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:34.000
kilometers away, but it was so loud, and it was

1405
01:24:34.119 --> 01:24:39.359
like a holler, very human like hollar, nothing like an elk,

1406
01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:43.880
nothing like a crazy little fox or any of those

1407
01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:48.159
sounds screeching cat, nothing like that howling wolf. Nothing. I

1408
01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:53.399
heard it all and my friend and I both we

1409
01:24:53.560 --> 01:24:58.319
just found our trail instantly because the direction that that

1410
01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:02.720
sound came from was the exact direction of the trail

1411
01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:06.199
that I had lost so a part of me feels

1412
01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:08.640
like although it was time to go, and we knew

1413
01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:12.159
it because at evening time we don't go in the bush,

1414
01:25:12.239 --> 01:25:17.880
we don't pick. That's animal time, and we were stretching it.

1415
01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:23.880
And that animal, that sacred man being, showed us the

1416
01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:27.880
path by being in the exact direction of that path.

1417
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:30.399
So when I looked at the sound where it was

1418
01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:35.199
coming from, I could see the path. And so we

1419
01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:40.960
did not get lost that day. And so you know,

1420
01:25:41.159 --> 01:25:43.680
sometimes those beings help us. One time when I was

1421
01:25:43.760 --> 01:25:50.439
up in the Witsuit in territory because I do activism

1422
01:25:50.520 --> 01:25:54.399
them in the territory to try to stop pipelines from

1423
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:58.199
going through, and we were having a simple meeting outside

1424
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:02.680
our camp, all indigenous only, and all of a sudden,

1425
01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:06.399
again there was rocks being thrown at the roof right

1426
01:26:06.439 --> 01:26:09.119
beside us.

1427
01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:09.840
Just rocks.

1428
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:14.560
They just some of them throw rocks on the coast

1429
01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:18.039
of BC. They call them sninnicks and books. Anyway, that's

1430
01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:19.840
all I have to share today.

1431
01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:26.479
Being incredible stories that we would never really hear any

1432
01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:29.439
other way. Thank you for sharing your culture with us.

1433
01:26:31.399 --> 01:26:36.880
I have just a quick question. So it happen a

1434
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:43.000
lot where where people would be taken from from your

1435
01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:47.760
tribe by these or is that a not a common one?

1436
01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:52.439
Lady, my dad's friend growing up, she got taken by

1437
01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:57.399
a sasquatch and she when they found her not long after,

1438
01:26:57.479 --> 01:26:59.720
they thought she was going to be gone forever. But

1439
01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:02.039
when she came back and she was young, her hair

1440
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:08.600
was all gray. She was taken by a sasquatch. And

1441
01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:12.479
that was my dad's seventy six years old.

1442
01:27:13.359 --> 01:27:21.960
Wow, my goodness, thank you, thank you for sharing. I

1443
01:27:22.359 --> 01:27:26.920
appreciate it. Hopefully we will hear from you another day

1444
01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:29.760
if you're able to hang out with us, but we're

1445
01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:32.399
really appreciative of everything you shared today. Thank you.

1446
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:35.600
Yeah, I just came across you and I just followed

1447
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:39.800
you right now. I never knew you existed before, so

1448
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:44.800
you know, I'm sure you've maybe my dad's seen one.

1449
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:49.079
He was canoeing on the river and he thought it

1450
01:27:49.199 --> 01:27:54.680
was a bear, and sure enough, it was a man, standing,

1451
01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:59.880
giant tall, and he just also got that foul odor.

1452
01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:03.920
Another guy in our village seen one too, and it

1453
01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:06.680
was in the outhouse and it was eating tan.

1454
01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:12.920
Really yeah, oh my goodness. That's that's very very intense,

1455
01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:17.439
but it's it's very real. It's very real.

1456
01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:20.479
Lots of people seeing them up here. Okay, take care.

1457
01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:23.760
I can't imagine. Thank you, Sabina. I'll follow you as well.

1458
01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:30.319
Have a good one. Wow, Hi Daniel, how are you.

1459
01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:32.479
I'm good to yourself?

1460
01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:34.319
Doing great.

1461
01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:38.159
I have not encounter like seen it befood my own self,

1462
01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:42.720
like seeing it myself, but I have had like instances

1463
01:28:42.760 --> 01:28:47.359
where I have I have it made me believe that

1464
01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:52.039
they are big food, even when having seen them with

1465
01:28:52.199 --> 01:28:54.359
my naked eye, like trying to see them and be

1466
01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:55.039
like yeah.

1467
01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:57.880
So oh sure, yeah, sure sure.

1468
01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:02.960
There was a time that we had we had a

1469
01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:08.960
trip in Tennessee. Yeah so, and it was a waterface area,

1470
01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:12.880
like acqued my international students. So I can't I quite

1471
01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:15.640
don't remember the name of the place. So I've not

1472
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:19.359
been here for long. So we went to this place

1473
01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:26.920
and it has a very the waterforce has a very

1474
01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:28.279
big valley where.

1475
01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:34.399
When you look down, it's kind of it's very deep.

1476
01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:38.119
So most of the time people go descend down when

1477
01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:41.279
the river I'll say the water is very low and

1478
01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:45.279
they go to the forest. So at a point in

1479
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:47.600
time in the river when I was working, I was

1480
01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:52.479
just observing how the water is flowing, and it was

1481
01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:55.199
very clear. You could see some tiny fishes, golden fishes

1482
01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:58.760
and stuff in it. So I was just being observant,

1483
01:29:59.319 --> 01:30:00.640
very observant, watching.

1484
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:04.479
Things a lot. So I noticed that there was like.

1485
01:30:06.039 --> 01:30:10.000
And I kind of let a lot of foods, some big,

1486
01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:14.800
big footsteps in the water. But you can't unless you

1487
01:30:14.920 --> 01:30:18.279
keep paying attention before you could know that there are

1488
01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:22.520
footsteps because it's very big. So when you're walking through

1489
01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:24.960
the water, you feel like you are just going up

1490
01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:27.079
and down in the water because you feel like the

1491
01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:30.039
streams are not like the water flowing is not smooth,

1492
01:30:30.319 --> 01:30:34.840
you know. So I started observing that anytime we walk

1493
01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:40.399
like five to ten meters, you just go down and

1494
01:30:40.439 --> 01:30:43.159
you walk a little bit. So most of the time

1495
01:30:43.159 --> 01:30:44.920
people a lot of people were working in the water,

1496
01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:48.960
so the water was kind of unclean, like it was

1497
01:30:49.039 --> 01:30:51.880
just dirty. It becomes dirty a little bit like dusty

1498
01:30:51.920 --> 01:30:55.039
and something like that. So I was like, okay, I'd

1499
01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:57.079
rather take my time for a lot of people to

1500
01:30:57.119 --> 01:30:59.680
go and I'll come later. So my friends were like, okay, okay,

1501
01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:03.840
they are heading for it and come later. So I started,

1502
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:08.439
Now the water is flowing, so it takes that's away.

1503
01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:12.479
So over a period of time, like I waste like

1504
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:15.880
twenty to thirty man because it is not a bunch

1505
01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:20.039
of people going at the same time. So I noticed

1506
01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:23.760
that when they left and I went back a little bit,

1507
01:31:24.039 --> 01:31:27.359
so I was like, I wanted to know why we

1508
01:31:27.439 --> 01:31:30.359
have ups and down whows this streams is flowing this

1509
01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:32.760
way and it is no rainy season where you'll be

1510
01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:37.039
saying that it is eluasi. So I started watching and

1511
01:31:37.119 --> 01:31:40.359
I went back, and you could see despite people have

1512
01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:43.840
walked through in for a while, you could see that

1513
01:31:44.399 --> 01:31:47.039
it looks like a foot, but it's way way bigger

1514
01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:51.039
than my Like it's way way bigger. So it's way

1515
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:51.880
way bigger than.

1516
01:31:51.880 --> 01:31:53.359
So I was. I started phone.

1517
01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:55.880
I was like, okay, so it looks like there was

1518
01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:59.680
a footsteps in that way, like there's a big, big

1519
01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:02.720
foot now, and it was going opposite direction of where

1520
01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:05.560
we were going, So it looks like the tennis right

1521
01:32:05.640 --> 01:32:11.000
up from where we were going to elsewhere. So where

1522
01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:13.479
we are going to, where the force was where we

1523
01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:17.880
were going, the food was opposite the place, so like

1524
01:32:18.840 --> 01:32:21.359
the toes are facing where we were coming from where

1525
01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:23.119
we're coming from m hm.

1526
01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:26.359
So that was when I noticed it was big food.

1527
01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:29.760
But I was trying to mention it to my friends,

1528
01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:32.239
and we were like, I believe in too much. I

1529
01:32:32.279 --> 01:32:37.520
believe a lot too much. So I didn't continue to

1530
01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:41.279
try to convince them because they didn't want them to

1531
01:32:41.319 --> 01:32:43.399
even hear me out. So I was like, okay, and

1532
01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:46.000
I kept to myself, but I believe that there's a

1533
01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:46.479
big food.

1534
01:32:46.520 --> 01:32:48.479
Yeah, I believe. I believe.

1535
01:32:48.680 --> 01:32:50.720
How long? How long was that foot print?

1536
01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:54.279
Is song andy?

1537
01:32:56.760 --> 01:32:59.359
Okay? So I was merging with my I was trying

1538
01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:02.800
to measure in my foot, like my foot so I

1539
01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:05.319
could say, like, I'm.

1540
01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:06.920
Just trying to make the day. How I did it

1541
01:33:06.920 --> 01:33:08.000
against before? I tell you?

1542
01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:13.680
So like like at three like my three foots right,

1543
01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:17.279
my three foots, I'm very tort I'm a little bit tall,

1544
01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:20.239
so my three foot and a little bit like a

1545
01:33:20.279 --> 01:33:25.960
half three foot and half, so something like that. And

1546
01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:29.560
interesting the way I saw that thing makes me look

1547
01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:32.239
like and the place is very big, so if at

1548
01:33:32.359 --> 01:33:35.640
night there's no lighting system there, so if at night

1549
01:33:36.319 --> 01:33:38.439
such a being is working there, it's going to be

1550
01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:43.199
very difficult to like seeing it, like see it because

1551
01:33:43.520 --> 01:33:46.000
it's a big value, it's a deep value.

1552
01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:49.880
So if is working there, that night, nobody is going to.

1553
01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:54.520
Be there to really see it, right, Yeah, can you

1554
01:33:54.560 --> 01:33:57.319
share what size foot, what size shoe you wear?

1555
01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:00.760
Our like forty three?

1556
01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:04.119
It depends on if I wanted my original size foot

1557
01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:04.840
is forty two?

1558
01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:14.439
Okay, so forty two men's shoe in US and you.

1559
01:34:14.479 --> 01:34:18.520
Said it was how many of those like three and

1560
01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:21.319
three and like a three three and a half or

1561
01:34:21.319 --> 01:34:21.960
something like that.

1562
01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:25.720
Okay, So that's really big because that's equivalent to a

1563
01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:29.319
men's eight and a half or nine. So that's a

1564
01:34:29.359 --> 01:34:33.319
pretty big track, man. That's that's wild. Thank you for

1565
01:34:33.359 --> 01:34:37.039
sharing that, dude. Right, guys, Well, make make sure you're

1566
01:34:37.079 --> 01:34:42.000
following this account. Last call. If someone wants to come up,

1567
01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:45.399
this is it. I will be headed out here, but

1568
01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:49.359
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1569
01:34:50.119 --> 01:34:53.680
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1574
01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:09.760
Guys.

1575
01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:12.079
We're gonna we're going to get through this. We're going

1576
01:35:12.159 --> 01:35:15.760
to beat it. We've got only five treatments left. We

1577
01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:19.439
were only already down with one treatment, so good stuff.

1578
01:35:19.520 --> 01:35:21.760
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1579
01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:25.079
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1580
01:35:25.079 --> 01:35:28.840
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1581
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1582
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1583
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1584
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1585
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1586
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1587
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1588
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1589
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1590
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1591
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1592
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1594
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1596
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1597
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1598
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1601
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